#Breitbart.com and Drudge Report: Center Right? Who Are They Kidding?

The Romney campaign is ignoring the media and focusing on far right blogs
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In case you hadn’t noticed, the Romney campaign is completely shunning the mainstream media, and yesterday Zac Moffat, Digital Director of the Romney Campaign, admitted as much in an interview with breitbart.com operative Larry O’Connor: Romney Campaign: Drudge, Breitbart Leading Rise of Center-Right Media.

My jaw hit the floor when I read this headline. “Center-right?” They have got to be kidding. breitbart.com has been busily promoting every lunatic far right conspiracy theory that bubbles up from the toxic Tea Party base, including Birtherism. And Drudge Report? You mean the site that has a permanent link to Alex Jones’ whacked-out conspiracy site and frequently features their insane stories? This is “center right” now?

These are the websites on which Mitt Romney is relying to get his message out — two of the craziest race-baiting, conspiracy-peddling sites on the web, with readers who frequently spew torrents of vile, gutter-level racism.

For example, the deranged, mindless hatred in this thread of comments at breitbart.com, about a speech given by Michelle Obama at a Nashville church: Michelle Compares Obama to Biblical Figures.

The headline is a blatant lie, first off. Michelle Obama never “compared Obama to Biblical figures” in this speech. Watch their own video — it shows exactly what a sick race-baiting lie this is.

And then, in response, breitbart.com’s readers filled up the comment thread with repulsive, hateful comments, drenched in racism and religious fanaticism, just like they do every single day.

Ladies and gentlemen — the new “center right.” And this selection is just a fraction of the hatred in this thread, of course. I didn’t quote the dozens of commenters calling Obama “the Antichrist” and “Satan.”

Mooch-el is right…..he’s the black Jesus!!!!!!!

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The ONLY biblical figure Obama could compare to is JUDAS…….for betraying America and everyone of it’s citizens!  The POS isn’t fit to even breathe the air in this country…..neither is his lardbutt, thunderthighed, gorilla-faced piece of trailer trash wife!

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There was nothing in Allene177’s post about the color of anyones skin and nothing that was written was out of context with the facts.
There wasn’t a footprint or vapor of hate in that post, it was just calling a spade a spade.

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GOD DAMN HIM AND HIS WIFE. BOTH SHOULD BE BURNED AT THE STAKE! THEY ARE THE SPAWNS OF SATAN. LIE LIE LIE IS ALL THEY DO!!!!!

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The violator in the Oval Office is a mooh latto, not an african anything. By
definition he is just a mooh lattoo but the sick puppy press will not use the
real word and the monitors of this page will not allow it to be used.

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Deranged animals who think they are gods cannot be civilized

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Sorr y that your “Ma gic Knee grow” isn’t so ‘mag ical’ anymore.

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Obama does kind of resemble that donkey’s caboose in the manger scene.

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Pigbama more represents what comes out of the donkeys caboose.

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Oh my God these people stop at nothing, KING OBAMA BENT WAY OVER, just like he does to the leaders that hate America. Keep bowing oh Great One, you are not God Almighty you are the Devil and the American people know it. OBAMA THE GREAT LIAR AND DESTROYER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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she is the uglies first lady ever

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Obama is just .25 b l a c k. He’s also .25 A r a b, so he’s just as much an A r a b president as he is a b l a c k one.

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Like Obam, this moron is smoking to much crack !!!!!

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SEMBY get a grip dude. We do not have African American president. We have a socialist pawn who is actually by definition a mooh latto. Breitbart will not allow for the correct spelling so I use a variation.

But the truth is there is not and it is likely that there will not be an African American president. The dude stinking up the White House and the Oval Office is by definition a mooh latto !

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If they are so into the “African” title thing…. why doesn’t he GO BACK to AFRICA and be the first AFRICAN tyrant. It would be convenient….he wouldn’t have to use the “-American” suffix because we all KNOW he HATES America and what it stands for…..My God…what POS’s they are.

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I am also tired of him being called African-American, he is a half breed plain and simple, which means neither race accepts him unless they think he can do something for them.

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This woman has lived off whites her entire life, yet she not only hates whites, she hates America.

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YEA The Jack-Azz that had to be pulled out of the mud hole

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disregard, moo-chele. what would a mu-slime know about the bible in the first place?

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327 comments
1 Mocking Jay  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 12:48:14pm

"Honey, I think I'd rather have that Overton Window moved over here."

Seriously, if people start believing that this is the center? Oy.

2 Elias  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 12:49:00pm

It's unfair to judge a website by the comments of its articles. Because the people who comment on websites are often the dumbest.

3 engineer cat  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 12:50:06pm

Florida Gov. Rick Scott now says Florida will do nothing to comply with President Barack Obama's health care overhaul and will not expand its Medicaid program. The announcement is a marked changed after the governor recently said he would follow the law if it were upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court.
"Florida is not going to implement Obamacare. We are not going to expand Medicaid and we're not going to implement exchanges"

i would have to say he's just about pushed florida from toss up to leans democratic with that one

4 HappyWarrior  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 12:50:16pm

re: #2 Elias

It's unfair to judge a website by the comments of its articles. Because the people who comment on websites are often the dumbest.

Okay, what about the fact that Breitbart editor, John Nolte thinks it's okay to murder teachers who take their students to political events? Or the fact that Drudge implied that Justice Roberts' epilepsy is why he ruled the way he did on the ACA decision. Yeah comments aren't everything but let's remember what Breitbart and Drudge's own writers are and have done.

5 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 12:50:51pm

re: #2 Elias

No, it is not unfair. Breitbart.com deliberately encourages and tolerates these kinds of comments. This is no accident, it's their business model.

6 engineer cat  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 12:53:22pm

re: #2 Elias

It's unfair to judge a website by the comments of its articles. Because the people who comment on websites are often the dumbest.

hey! i resemble that remark!

7 Mocking Jay  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 12:53:24pm

Republican Senator Says ObamaCare Will ‘Sovietize’ Health Care

Today on CBS’s Face The Nation, Coburn said he believes ObamaCare will Sovietize the U.S. health care system because “it means the bureaucrats and politicians are in charge of your health care”

Delusional. Dishonest. Even I'm having trouble laughing at this point.

8 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 12:53:46pm

re: #2 Elias

It's unfair to judge a website by the comments of its articles. Because the people who comment on websites are often the dumbest.

What Charles said above, to include: the site leaves these shitty comments up, therefore endorsing them.

9 HappyWarrior  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 12:53:48pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

No, it is not unfair. Breitbart.com deliberately encourages and tolerates these kinds of comments. This is no accident, it's their business model.

Or the fact that its namesake and founder, Andrew Breitbart willingly smeared a DoA employee and tried to get her fired. You're absolutely right. It's completely fair and the Romney campaign shows its true colors by associating with these jerks.

10 engineer cat  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 12:57:23pm

re: #2 Elias

are you the same 'elias' who used to comment at eschaton?

11 Kragar  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 12:58:55pm

re: #2 Elias

It's unfair to judge a website by the comments of its articles. Because the people who comment on websites are often the dumbest.

I'm getting the feeling that was meant in more than one way.

12 HappyWarrior  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 12:59:23pm

Bueller?

13 engineer cat  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:01:30pm

re: #7 It's a cookbook!

Republican Senator Says ObamaCare Will ‘Sovietize’ Health Care

Delusional. Dishonest. Even I'm having trouble laughing at this point.

he shouldn't use worn out lies from two years ago. he needs to contact the rnc and get an up-to-date set of lies

14 bratwurst  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:01:52pm

Would be instructive to learn what Mr. O'Connor considers to be the far right at this point, wouldn't it?

15 Mocking Jay  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:02:22pm

re: #14 bratwurst

Would be instructive to learn what Mr. O'Connor considers to be the far right at this point, wouldn't it?

At this point it has to involve brown shirts.

16 RadicalModerate  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:03:01pm

If Romney considers Brietbart and Drudge center-right, I wonder what he judges as "far-right"?

Because I don't see any significant difference between sites like Brietbart and places like VDare and American Renaissance.

17 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:03:04pm

re: #3 engineer cat

Florida Gov. Rick Scott now says Florida will do nothing to comply with President Barack Obama's health care overhaul and will not expand its Medicaid program. The announcement is a marked changed after the governor recently said he would follow the law if it were upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court.
"Florida is not going to implement Obamacare. We are not going to expand Medicaid and we're not going to implement exchanges"

i would have to say he's just about pushed florida from toss up to leans democratic with that one

That's two...

What is this? "We won't bother to implement Federal law, we're gonna wait to see if we can get a president we like better."

18 nines09  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:03:04pm

The lie machine is in high gear. Incredible that Mitt is in bed with these ticks. If that's center right, the Mayans are correct. I would sooner eat ground glass than vote GOP. Mitch had some lovely things to say about 30 million people being uninsured being "not the issue". Incredible.

19 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:04:36pm

I do have to say, their spelling as it morphs in response to the filters is awesomely bizarre. "Mooh latto". Now, what is it with "Ma gic Ne Gro"? Is "Magic" really a filter word?

20 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:06:35pm

re: #19 SanFranciscoZionist

I do have to say, their spelling as it morphs in response to the filters is awesomely bizarre. "Mooh latto". Now, what is it with "Ma gic Ne Gro"? Is "Magic" really a filter word?

There are quite a few comments in this thread whining about being unable to post racial slurs because of the Disqus filters. Some people are instructing others on how to get around the filters by misspelling and inserting random spaces into their hate words.

21 HappyWarrior  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:06:52pm

re: #18 Some Assembly Required, Batteries Not Included,

The lie machine is in high gear. Incredible that Mitt is in bed with these ticks. If that's center right, the Mayans are correct. I would sooner eat ground glass than vote GOP. Mitch had some lovely things to say about 30 million people being uninsured being "not the issue". Incredible.

McConnell said that? God what a colossal prick thing to say. Dude you're a member of the senate and have access to world class health care. You don't have to like the law but to dismiss some 30 million people who are not insured as "not the issue" just reeks of jerkiness. I really hope they get beat and beat bad at the polls this year.

22 b_sharp  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:12:19pm

re: #2 Elias

It's unfair to judge a website by the comments of its articles. Because the people who comment on websites are often the dumbest.

You can judge a website by the comments because the moderators reflect the image the site wants to promote and the comments left up reflect the moderator's ideology.

In these specific cases, the articles themselves are just as vitriolic as the comments.

23 HappyWarrior  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:12:22pm

Part of the new line of GOP bullshit is that it doesn't matter that Romney did it in Massachusetts because states rights and all that. Oh yeah? That explains why Romney and every single member of the GOP leadership supports states having the right to choose if gay couples can marry or not? "It's an attack on individual freedom." From the party that supports ultrasounds for a legal procedure. That's even more laughable. Obama and the Democratic party need to show how full of shit these guys really are and that the only reason they hate this bill is because of the man who put it into law.

24 b_sharp  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:13:15pm

re: #6 engineer cat

hey! i resemble that remark!

Sorry, but I have to dispute that claim, I'm a lot dumber than you is.

25 engineer cat  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:13:33pm

re: #21 HappyWarrior

McConnell said that? God what a colossal prick thing to say. Dude you're a member of the senate and have access to world class health care. You don't have to like the law but to dismiss some 30 million people who are not insured as "not the issue" just reeks of jerkiness. I really hope they get beat and beat bad at the polls this year.

considering that senator's health insurance is about as "socialized" as it gets, i'd say he has a lot of nerve to talk like that

26 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:13:52pm

In a nutshell (or pls correct me). 1. You have health insurance through your job or personal wealth. 2. You don't have health insurance and are FINALLY able to get it, via the exchanges. (unless you live in fl or la so far) 3. You are a stubborn person who doesn't see the benefit of health insurance and are going to be taxed/mandated/penalized for being a stubborn idjit.

The whole GOP is basing their argument on the .05% idjits, who they wouldn't lift a hand to help in any way, any other day!

Boggling. Oh I forgot! Freedom!

27 AK-47%  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:14:44pm

Only stupid and cynical people fail to see the conection between Romneycare and Obamacare. Only stupid and cynical people try to tell us that the Earth is 6,000 years old. Only stupid and cynical people deny global warming.

I pity the stupid ones, but I totally abhor the cynical ones.

28 b_sharp  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:15:40pm

re: #20 Charles Johnson

There are quite a few comments in this thread whining about being unable to post racial slurs because of the Disqus filters. Some people are instructing others on how to get around the filters by misspelling and inserting random spaces into their hate words.

I take it they aren't intelligent enough to use Sergey's tricks.

29 HappyWarrior  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:16:47pm

re: #25 engineer cat

considering that senator's health insurance is about as "socialized" as it gets, i'd say he has a lot of nerve to talk like that

No kidding. If "socialized medicine" was so horrible, you'd see these right wing elected officials refusing to take it. Instead, you read about Tea Party newly elected officials who ask if they can get the benefits before they're sworn in. If that doesn't show you that the whole resentments about health care are out of hatred Obama rather than good faith I don't know what to say.

30 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:18:19pm

re: #23 HappyWarrior

Part of the new line of GOP bullshit is that it doesn't matter that Romney did it in Massachusetts because states rights and all that. Oh yeah? That explains why Romney and every single member of the GOP leadership supports states having the right to choose if gay couples can marry or not? "It's an attack on individual freedom." From the party that supports ultrasounds for a legal procedure. That's even more laughable. Obama and the Democratic party need to show how full of shit these guys really are and that the only reason they hate this bill is because of the man who put it into law.

Its very difficult to battle hypocrites. They've got their bases covered.

31 Cap'n Magic  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:19:26pm

Someone needs to put Romney on the spot with his digital media director's statement.

32 Kragar  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:20:01pm

re: #23 HappyWarrior

Part of the new line of GOP bullshit is that it doesn't matter that Romney did it in Massachusetts because states rights and all that. Oh yeah? That explains why Romney and every single member of the GOP leadership supports states having the right to choose if gay couples can marry or not? "It's an attack on individual freedom." From the party that supports ultrasounds for a legal procedure. That's even more laughable. Obama and the Democratic party need to show how full of shit these guys really are and that the only reason they hate this bill is because of the man who put it into law.

They support the States right to ban gay marriage, and a strong Federal Defense of Marriage act to force the other states into compliance.

33 Randall Gross  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:20:08pm

There's some syntactic grammar fix needed here, looks like you missed a spot rearranging a sentence:

These are the websites Mitt Romney on which Mitt Romney is relying to get his message out —

34 b_sharp  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:20:39pm

re: #26 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012

In a nutshell (or pls correct me). 1. You have health insurance through your job or personal wealth. 2. You don't have health insurance and are FINALLY able to get it, via the exchanges. (unless you live in fl or la so far) 3. You are a stubborn person who doesn't see the benefit of health insurance and are going to be taxed/mandated/penalized for being a stubborn idjit.

The whole GOP is basing their argument on the .05% idjits, who they wouldn't lift a hand to help in any way, any other day!

Boggling. Oh I forgot! Freedom!

If you don't have the freedom to be stupid, then what freedom do you really have?

Mind you, the stupid really don't know the difference.

35 HappyWarrior  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:22:42pm

re: #31 Cap'n Magic

Someone needs to put Romney on the spot with his digital media director's statement.

I'd love to see it but given the way Romney weaseled out of what Limbaugh said, he'd weasel out of this more because he's a weasel when it comes to his surrogates. Hence why you'll never see condemn or explicitly condone for that matter either what a nut like Trump says either. Mitt is all about what's good for Mitt and if that means he's going to support from websites like these then that's what he'll do.

36 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:23:32pm

re: #34 b_sharp

If you don't have the freedom to be stupid, then what freedom do you really have?

Mind you, the stupid really don't know the difference.

But the GOP is standing up for the stupid. Again, the very people they wouldn't help in hard times. So stupid.

37 Mocking Jay  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:24:45pm

re: #26 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012

In a nutshell (or pls correct me). 1. You have health insurance through your job or personal wealth. 2. You don't have health insurance and are FINALLY able to get it, via the exchanges. (unless you live in fl or la so far) 3. You are a stubborn person who doesn't see the benefit of health insurance and are going to be taxed/mandated/penalized for being a stubborn idjit.

The whole GOP is basing their argument on the .05% idjits, who they wouldn't lift a hand to help in any way, any other day!

Boggling. Oh I forgot! Freedom!

If we're taking bets on the next state to follow LA and FL's lead, I've got some money to put down on Texas...

38 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:24:50pm

For the Gordon Ramsay fans
Gordon Ramsay Behind Bars

39 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:25:06pm

re: #35 HappyWarrior

I'd love to see it but given the way Romney weaseled out of what Limbaugh said, he'd weasel out of this more because he's a weasel when it comes to his surrogates. Hence why you'll never see condemn or explicitly condone for that matter either what a nut like Trump says either. Mitt is all about what's good for Mitt and if that means he's going to support from websites like these then that's what he'll do.

Slippery Mitt. (I just trademarked that)

40 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:25:19pm

re: #38 Killgore Trout

For the Gordon Ramsay fans
Gordon Ramsay Behind Bars

NSFW language

41 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:26:11pm

re: #37 It's a cookbook!

If we're taking bets on the next state to follow LA and FL's lead, I've got some money to put down on Texas...

AZ & AK too. Frivolous lawsuits anyone?

42 b_sharp  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:26:23pm

re: #39 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012

Slippery Mitt. (I just trademarked that)

Teflon Mitt.

Mitteflon.

43 Elias  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:28:43pm

I'm not saying Breitbart is not an extremist website. I'm just saying that the comments are not relevant to judge that. I know a lot of very good, mainstream websites which tolerate this kind of comments.

44 Elias  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:28:57pm

re: #10 engineer cat

No

45 Velvet Elvis  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:30:05pm

re: #2 Elias

It's unfair to judge a website by the comments of its articles. Because the people who comment on websites are often the dumbest.

He said in a comment on a website.

46 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:30:36pm

OT, I'm reading the Keith Richards autobiography. So slow in the beginning, his childhood was so uneventual, we can skip it keith. I'm ready for the sex drugs r&r.

But I never skip, I suffer through.

47 b_sharp  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:32:13pm

re: #46 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012

OT, I'm reading the Keith Richards autobiography. So slow in the beginning, his childhood was so uneventual, we can skip it keith. I'm ready for the sex drugs r&r.

But I never skip, I suffer through.

Why?

48 Digital Display  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:32:48pm

re: #46 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012

OT, I'm reading the Keith Richards autobiography. So slow in the beginning, his childhood was so uneventual, we can skip it keith. I'm ready for the sex drugs r&r.

But I never skip, I suffer through.

I'm waiting for the movie..
/Hi you!

49 HappyWarrior  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:32:50pm

re: #39 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012

Slippery Mitt. (I just trademarked that)

Truth is always slippery with that one.

50 Targetpractice  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:34:17pm

re: #14 bratwurst

Would be instructive to learn what Mr. O'Connor considers to be the far right at this point, wouldn't it?

My guess? Paulians.

51 Mocking Jay  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:34:54pm

Oh, Microsoft, you really have put me in my place. I thought I was doing the smart thing, installing the Win 8 preview on a partition, so I could get right back into Win 7 when I needed to. But no, you had to prove me a dumbass by changing up the bootloader. Four hours all told to find a solution. Thank you for bringing me down a notch just when I thought had something figured out. Only you, Microsoft. Only you...

52 Kronocide  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:36:02pm

The Pitchfork Patriots are legion.

53 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:36:02pm

re: #47 b_sharp

Why?

I'm a stubborn idjit.

54 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:36:38pm

re: #43 Elias

I'm not saying Breitbart is not an extremist website. I'm just saying that the comments are not relevant to judge that. I know a lot of very good, mainstream websites which tolerate this kind of comments.

There's no comparison. Yes, you can find offensive comments on "mainstream" sites too, but nowhere near as many, or as offensive and vile, as the comments in nearly every single thread at Breitbart.com, or almost any other right wing blog these days.

I've been watching this develop for more than 10 years, and have resolved a serious problem with extremists here at LGF too. You're simply wrong to brush this off as irrelevant. It's highly relevant to what is going on with the right wing, that so many wingnut sites are inundated with the ugliest kind of racism.

55 AntonSirius  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:36:52pm

re: #21 HappyWarrior

McConnell said that?

In an interview with Chris Wallace, no less. Wallace asked him what ObamaCare would get replaced with, and McDonnell's attempt to dodge the question was unbelievably clumsy, even for McConnell.

56 b_sharp  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:39:02pm

re: #48 Digital Display

I'm waiting for the movie..
/Hi you!

The movie is already out, it's called Pirates of the Caribbean:At World's End.

57 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:39:37pm

re: #48 Digital Display

I'm waiting for the movie..
/Hi you!

Hey Hoops! You should see some of the pics in the book. Keith is old and frail. His arms are sooo skinny, just sinewy muscle.

58 b_sharp  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:39:50pm

re: #51 It's a cookbook!

Oh, Microsoft, you really have put me in my place. I thought I was doing the smart thing, installing the Win 8 preview on a partition, so I could get right back into Win 7 when I needed to. But no, you had to prove me a dumbass by changing up the bootloader. Four hours all told to find a solution. Thank you for bringing me down a notch just when I thought had something figured out. Only you, Microsoft. Only you...

VirtualBox.

59 Digital Display  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:39:57pm

re: #51 It's a cookbook!

Oh, Microsoft, you really have put me in my place. I thought I was doing the smart thing, installing the Win 8 preview on a partition, so I could get right back into Win 7 when I needed to. But no, you had to prove me a dumbass by changing up the bootloader. Four hours all told to find a solution. Thank you for bringing me down a notch just when I thought had something figured out. Only you, Microsoft. Only you...

I never ever ever complain about MS ( That's a flat-out lie )
Ever since Windows 3.11 when I was a Nuke in Bld 690 and nobody knew how to use a computer my career was really born.
Thank you Bill Gates.. I have made a literal boatload of money supporting MS.
Gawd I love that Man

60 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:40:03pm

re: #40 Killgore Trout

NSFW language

It's Gordon Ramsay.

That goes without saying.

61 Elias  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:41:15pm

re: #45 Conservative Moonbat

Someone has got to raise the level ! (Just kidding, this is not a news website so it's different)

62 thecommodore  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:41:58pm

re: #37 It's a cookbook!

If we're taking bets on the next state to follow LA and FL's lead, I've got some money to put down on Texas...

I'd be tempted to wager that one (maybe even more) of these states would even dabble with having a secession vote.

63 Mocking Jay  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:42:04pm

re: #58 b_sharp

VirtualBox.

So I've heard since researching how to remedy my problem. Oh well. It's fixed now, but I am a little concerned about what might happen when I get rid of the partition.

64 Mocking Jay  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:43:03pm

re: #59 Digital Display

I never ever ever complain about MS ( That's a flat-out lie )
Ever since Windows 3.11 when I was a Nuke in Bld 690 and nobody knew how to use a computer my career was really born.
Thank you Bill Gates.. I have made a literal boatload of money supporting MS.
Gawd I love that Man

I doubt he has much of anything to do with it now. I blame Ballmer :)

65 b_sharp  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:47:20pm

re: #63 It's a cookbook!

So I've heard since researching how to remedy my problem. Oh well. It's fixed now, but I am a little concerned about what might happen when I get rid of the partition.

Install VirtualBox anyway. You're likely to want to test something in the future and it allows testing much better than pissing around with bootloaders, especially MS stuff because they follow their own standards, not the ISO standards.

Or invest in EasyBCD.

66 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:48:36pm

re: #38 Killgore Trout

I am currently watching Jacques Pepin and Ming Tsai on Simply Ming. Those two can beat that Ramsay person any day.

67 Mocking Jay  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:50:25pm

re: #65 b_sharp

I used VisualBCD to get back into 7. Had to change winload.exe to winload~1.exe. All is right in my world.

68 Randall Gross  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:51:09pm

re: #61 Elias

Breitbart is not a news outlet either. Neither is Drudge. Drudge is a news link aggregator, and Breitbart's all partisan opinion and "analysis" pieces, not news. What passes for original news there is cobbled up agitprop from fringe blogs and ambush journalism. WND is more of a news site that Breitbart.

69 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:52:00pm

re: #54 Charles Johnson

There's no comparison. Yes, you can find offensive comments on "mainstream" sites too, but nowhere near as many, or as offensive and vile, as the comments in nearly every single thread at Breitbart.com, or almost any other right wing blog these days.

I've been watching this develop for more than 10 years, and have resolved a serious problem with extremists here at LGF too. You're simply wrong to brush this off as irrelevant. It's highly relevant to what is going on with the right wing, that so many wingnut sites are inundated with the ugliest kind of racism.

If you were to do a crazygram of those who call themselves 'the right', most of the Brietbrat and Drudge followers would fall within the second standard deviation. Always was that way, they've just driven off the polite rw beards.

70 Digital Display  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:52:06pm

re: #64 It's a cookbook!

I doubt he has much of anything to do with it now. I blame Ballmer :)

Our Bill..Who is in Redmon
Hallowed be your name..
/
I think the really key to my success was not wallowing around in the OS.. What a joke..I remember the days anybody could write a OCX and call into the kernel and control Graphics and other hardware calls...What a huge successful mess.. One Apple refused to enter into.
I specialized...I'm considered a subject matter expert in a tiny little corner of Windows..Laugh with me Lizards!
ALL HAIL BILL GATES

71 Ming  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:52:17pm

It's disquieting to read that the Romney campaign is shunning the mainstream media, because that's precisely the "model" used by Sarah Palin, for the entire length of her (brief) campaign, from August 29, 2008 (when her presence on the ticket was announced) to Election Day. It's still worth remembering that Palin never gave a single mainstream press conference during that campaign.

This also brings back other unpleasant memories: Sharron Angle's "I'll talk to the press after I'm elected" sound byte, and Ron Paul's abruptly (and impolitely) ending his television interview with Gloria Borger of CNN, when she asked him about "those newletters" that somehow went out under his name, and made him a lot of money.

I hope 2012 doesn't break new ground, as the year when the Republican Presidential candidate consciously avoids all media that aren't known in advance to be sympathetic to him.

72 teresa  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:52:43pm

The Romney is being run by complete rookies. Do they seriously think Americans believe right wing demagogues represent America? I think it's going to back fire and I look forward to their loss in the fall.

73 Amory Blaine  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:53:24pm

Hmm one single comment here has the report button right under the number of updings.

74 sagehen  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:54:00pm

NO NO NO NO NO!!!

Center-right is:

Bill Bartlett
Radley Balko
Norman Ornstein
Conor Freidersdorf
Reine
Kilgore

75 Mocking Jay  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:54:44pm

re: #74 sagehen

NO NO NO NO NO!!!

Center-right is:

Bill Bartlett
Radley Balko
Norman Ornstein
Conor Freidersdorf
Reine
Kilgore

Pinkos.

76 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:54:49pm

re: #72 teresa

The Romney is being run by complete rookies. Do they seriously think Americans believe right wing demagogues represent America? I think it's going to back fire and I look forward to their loss in the fall.

Think and hope you're correct. If we're not, things are a lot worse for the future.

77 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:55:24pm

re: #72 teresa

The Romney is being run by complete rookies. Do they seriously think Americans believe right wing demagogues represent America? I think it's going to back fire and I look forward to their loss in the fall.

They might be run by roolies, but they are raising money. There is whispering that the Rmoney campaign raided $100 million in June. Let us hope that the rookies don't know how to use it effectively.

78 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:55:28pm

re: #74 sagehen

Reine & Kilgore yes

79 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:55:37pm

re: #75 It's a cookbook!

Pinkos.

Flaming Reds.

80 Mocking Jay  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:56:37pm

re: #79 Decatur Deb

Flaming Reds.

Progressives.

Top that.

81 Interesting Times  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:56:45pm

re: #73 Amory Blaine

Hmm one single comment here has the report button right under the number of updings.

I've seen that too. I think it happens with people whose display names are too long, thus pushing the report button off the edge, so to speak?

82 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:56:49pm

re: #1 It's a cookbook!

"Honey, I think I'd rather have that Overton Window moved over here."

Seriously, if people start believing that this is the center? Oy.

They aren't in the center of America as a whole, but they are the center and mainstream of the Republican Party.

83 engineer cat  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:58:08pm

re: #68 Randall Gross

Breitbart is not a news outlet either. Neither is Drudge. Drudge is a news link aggregator, and Breitbart's all partisan

i think of him more like a news aggravator

84 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:58:22pm

re: #77 moderatelyradicalliberal

They might be run by roolies, but they are raising money. There is whispering that the Rmoney campaign raided $100 million in June. Let us hope that the rookies don't know how to use it effectively.

Adelson and the Koch circle have decided that Romney will have all the money that can possibly be spent. If it's a matter of raw media purchasing power, they could elect Charles Manson. (And would, if he were the only Nobama.)

85 Mocking Jay  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:59:18pm

re: #83 engineer cat

i think of him more like a news aggravator

I'm stealing that one some day.

86 Targetpractice  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:59:20pm

re: #71 Ming

It's this idea that the "new media," the blogs and news websites that are as partisan as humanly possible, are better outlets than the "liberal media." The idea that the people you really want to get to, the ones who will be swayed by your "message" and beat down doors to get to the polls on Election Day are tuning into sites that have coverage measured in the tens of thousands at best.

Of course, the problem is that those outlets are also less likely to ask you the questions on a lot of people's minds, for fear that you'll cut off access and refuse to grace their site again. So what you get is a whole lot of softballs, like letting them gush about their "hard" childhoods or tell you what their favor foods are. But the mainstream media, the ones whose coverage is watched by millions of people, is filing the void with "unanswered questions" and pundits suggesting that you're not ready for primetime.

87 engineer cat  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 1:59:45pm

re: #82 moderatelyradicalliberal

They aren't in the center of America as a whole, but they are the center and mainstream of the Republican Party.

they're in the center of their flat earth

if they get too close to a moderate they might get eaten by dragons or fall off the edge of the world

88 b_sharp  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:00:58pm

re: #80 It's a cookbook!

Progressives.

Top that.

Ivory tower elites.

89 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:01:50pm

re: #84 Decatur Deb

Adelson and the Koch circle have decided that Romney will have all the money that can possibly be spent. If it's a matter of raw media purchasing power, they could elect Charles Manson. (And would, if he were the only Nobama.)

It still makes me nervous as hell. It's the only thing that really does. If it's possible to buy an entire federal government, the White House, Congress and the Supreme Court by extension, we are about to find out.

90 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:01:59pm

re: #88 b_sharp

Ivory tower elites.

Reine's tower is the one with stained-glass windows.

91 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:03:16pm

re: #89 moderatelyradicalliberal

It still makes me nervous as hell. It's the only thing that really does. If it's possible to buy an entire federal government, the White House, Congress and the Supreme Court by extension, we are about to find out.

Yup. And all the dystopian novels will seem like Whoville.

92 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:03:31pm

re: #87 engineer cat

they're in the center of their flat earth

if they get too close to a moderate they might get eaten by dragons or fall off the edge of the world

Nearly half the country is going to vote for Republicans which means the crazy 27% is more like a crazy 45% or not nearly enough moderates are scarred off by the crazy.

93 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:04:00pm

re: #90 Decatur Deb

Ivory Tower Ivy League Elites.

94 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:04:50pm

re: #93 PhillyPretzel

Ivory Tower Ivy League Elites.

Or as we call them here in Alabama, "readers".

95 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:05:43pm

re: #60 SanFranciscoZionist

It's Gordon Ramsay.

That goes without saying.

It's also a UK show so they don't bleep.

96 b_sharp  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:05:50pm

re: #89 moderatelyradicalliberal

It still makes me nervous as hell. It's the only thing that really does. If it's possible to buy an entire federal government, the White House, Congress and the Supreme Court by extension, we are about to find out.

Being able to buy the government kind of goes against ""government of the people, by the people, for the people" doesn't it?

97 Mocking Jay  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:06:32pm

re: #96 b_sharp

Being able to buy the government kind of goes against ""government of the people, by the people, for the people" doesn't it?

Corporations are people, my friend!

98 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:07:22pm

re: #97 It's a cookbook!

Corporations are people, my friend!

Except they don't get the death penalty in Texas.

99 b_sharp  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:07:50pm

re: #97 It's a cookbook!

Corporations are people, my friend!

That is either a 'gah' or a 'meh'.

100 Amory Blaine  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:08:11pm

Paul Ryan: Repeal health law because rights come from God

Gov. Walker: We learned from Romney on health care

The Wisconsin governor, who recently survived his recall election, said he is not going to implement the health care law right now.

"We're going to wait. We said all along there was a legal step, there's a political step and after each of those steps were exhausted we see what the future holds," Walker said, noting that the election is crucial to the future of health care policy.

"The only chance to repeal that is to put in place a new president, a new Senate majority, and then ultimately repeal the law," Walker said.

101 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:09:38pm

re: #74 sagehen

NO NO NO NO NO!!!

Center-right is:

Bill Bartlett
Radley Balko
Norman Ornstein
Conor Freidersdorf
Reine
Kilgore

Uh, I know it looks like that on the internet but I'm actually center left. No offense to anyone on that list but I'm not center right.

102 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:10:07pm

re: #96 b_sharp

Being able to buy the government kind of goes against ""government of the people, by the people, for the people" doesn't it?

Not if you think corporations and the rich white men who run them are not only people, but the only people that matter.

103 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:11:12pm

re: #66 PhillyPretzel

I am currently watching Jacques Pepin and Ming Tsai on Simply Ming. Those two can beat that Ramsay person any day.

Ramsay is a hack. Same with Flay who disturbed the culinary world several years ago, upon winning Iron Chef danced with shoes atop his cutting board. Sacreligious to me.

104 Interesting Times  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:11:30pm

See, this is why it's impossible to tell parody accounts from wingnut accounts:

and yes, it's real.

105 b_sharp  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:12:15pm

re: #101 Killgore Trout

Uh, I know it looks like that on the internet but I'm actually center left. No offense to anyone on that list but I'm not center right.

Only in the US would you be considered center left. You'd be solidly centre right up here.

106 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:12:30pm

re: #103 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012

That is why I said what I did in #66. :)

107 Amory Blaine  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:12:38pm

Money is speech. More money= more speech.

108 b_sharp  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:13:27pm

re: #102 moderatelyradicalliberal

Not if you think corporations and the rich white men who run them are not only people, but the only people that matter.

'Land owners (archaic)' = 'Job creators (modern)'

109 Targetpractice  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:13:42pm

re: #100 Amory Blaine

Paul Ryan: Repeal health law because rights come from God

That's a lot of brass from a guy who's got nuns out there screaming swears at him for his budget.

Gov. Walker: We learned from Romney on health care

Hey Scotty, news for ya: You ain't gonna get 60 votes in November, even in the best-case scenario.

110 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:14:04pm

re: #105 b_sharp

Only in the US would you be considered center left. You'd be solidly centre right up here.

Ah, OK. You're probably correct that by international standards I would be center right.

111 Gus  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:14:05pm

Logging in and out here -- testing something. Still have problems with the stupid intertoobs.

Also, Zac Moffat is an idiot.

112 Amory Blaine  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:14:42pm

I knew WI was in trouble when we ousted Feingold for Ron Johnson.

113 Mocking Jay  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:15:30pm

re: #104 Interesting Times

See, this is why it's impossible to tell parody accounts from wingnut accounts:

[Embedded content]

and yes, it's real.

That's... that's not snark?

114 Interesting Times  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:15:41pm

re: #112 Amory Blaine

I knew WI was in trouble when we ousted Feingold for Ron Johnson.

How about the John Doe investigation? Is there still a chance walker could become perp-walker?

115 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:16:14pm

re: #110 Killgore Trout

Ah, OK. You're probably correct that by international standards I would be center right.

Why, your attitude towards free-range rodents alone...

116 Interesting Times  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:17:08pm

re: #113 It's a cookbook!

That's... that's not snark?

Check his timeline. He's a breitbart drone.

117 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:17:32pm

re: #112 Amory Blaine

I knew WI was in trouble when we ousted Feingold for Ron Johnson.

The Teabag wave of 2010 will be looked at by history with a shame and infamy.

118 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:17:50pm

re: #104 Interesting Times

Yea, I think I added that guy to Tweetdeck's global filter a while ago. I've seen him tweet crazier stuff than that, too.

119 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:18:53pm

Everything is a conspiracy.

120 Gus  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:19:07pm

re: #116 Interesting Times

Check his timeline. He's a breitbart drone.

Awesome. I see a blank white page with the Twitter bar on top.

[Mumbles to self -- damn freaking computers.]

121 Gus  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:19:27pm

re: #119 Charles Johnson

Everything is a conspiracy.

[Embedded content]

Oh. That nut.

122 teresa  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:19:29pm

re: #77 moderatelyradicalliberal

So far they are unable to control folks like Paul Ryan who won't stop talking about repealing health care, no matter what one thinks this doesn't help Romney one single bit. I hope the out of control spokesmen like Mitch "Ask Romney how it's different" McConnell, since covering people isn't the issue, works against Romney, he can't talk about his non-jobs policies when he has to keep justifying MassCare.
But I could be wrong. I know the President is talking a lot about money, Dem's don't have the super pac money that Republicans seems to have endless access too. But I still think he can compete because he has the demographics with him, I've been to four voter registration drives for OFA since June 7th, and the GOTV grass roots campaign is pretty damn strong.

123 Gus  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:20:05pm

Clicking "connect" on Twitter. Nothing happens. Grrr.

124 Digital Display  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:20:09pm

Ok.. I feel somewhat Qualified to speak about the direction of the GOP for the last 4 years. I think it's too easy to pigeonhole reasons because of the complexity of the politics and the general direction of the Conservatives in the US.
Something has happened to the GOP in the last 4 years...When I first came to LGF I proudly wrote Charles about who I was and sent him my Award of being the Republican of the year. Very Proud to be invited to the Presidents Dinner in DC. ( Shout out to the Stalkers of mine..Nobody invited you to meet Bush did they? Didn't think so Bitches)
I was proud to be the Party of the Grown ups..And in Charge.
When Obama was elected it was like a shockwave from a SuperNova hit the Party.
It's like the loss of power ripped a veil from the platform.
The grownups started acting like spoiled little children. Just one little piece of it was the great flounce of 2009.. But everywhere we stopped being grownups and went to the base elements of the far right of the GOP.
Everything now came into to play..including racism. I knew we were in trouble when I started getting pictures on my BB of a Black man lynched with Obama's face photoshopped on it..
I'm not riding that crazy train.. I switched parties 11-1-10.
I don't regret it for one second.. Even though there are some Dems I will always have distain for. That will never change.
Thank you Lizards!

125 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:20:14pm

re: #120 Gus

Awesome. I see a blank white page with the Twitter bar on top.

[Mumbles to self -- damn freaking computers.]

You've got something blocking Javascript if that's happening.

126 Mocking Jay  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:21:56pm

Uh oh. Scientology is trending. This could be fun.

127 Gus  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:22:12pm

re: #125 Charles Johnson

You've got something blocking Javascript if that's happening.

Yeah. I just reset the Windows Firewall. Keep resetting Kaspersky. Works for a bit and then it starts blocking again. So I paused it and did a Ctl + F5 and then "connect" worked. Might have to reinstall Kaspersky.

128 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:22:49pm

re: #124 Digital Display

Ok.. I feel somewhat Qualified to speak about the direction of the GOP for the last 4 years. I think it's too easy to pigeonhole reasons because of the complexity of the politics and the general direction of the Conservatives in the US.
Something has happened to the GOP in the last 4 years...When I first came to LGF I proudly wrote Charles about who I was and sent him my Award of being the Republican of the year. Very Proud to be invited to the Presidents Dinner in DC. ( Shout out to the Stalkers of mine..Nobody invited you to meet Bush did they? Didn't think so Bitches)
I was proud to be the Party of the Grown ups..And in Charge.
When Obama was elected it was like a shockwave from a SuperNova hit the Party.
It's like the loss of power ripped a veil from the platform.
The grownups started acting like spoiled little children. Just one little piece of it was the great flounce of 2009.. But everywhere we stopped being grownups and went to the base elements of the far right of the GOP.
Everything now came into to play..including racism. I knew we were in trouble when I started getting pictures on my BB of a Black man lynched with Obama's face photoshopped on it..
I'm not riding that crazy train.. I switched parties 11-1-10.
I don't regret it for one second.. Even though there are some Dems I will always have distain for. That will never change.
Thank you Lizards!

Don't be ashamed--I once won the American Legion grade school medal.

129 Velvet Elvis  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:25:05pm

re: #119 Charles Johnson

Everything is a conspiracy.

[Embedded content]

That's not far from the truth. I've heard many insurance experts testify that the requirement that 85% of premiums be spent on medical care will make for-profit insurance companies a thing of the past. I can believe that it's part of the bill's intent to get big money out of insurance. Profiting off of human suffering is profoundly immoral.

130 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:26:01pm

re: #129 Conservative Moonbat

That's not far from the truth. I've heard many insurance experts testify that the requirement that 85% of premiums be spent on medical care will make for-profit insurance companies a thing of the past. I can believe that it's part of the bill's intent to get big money out of insurance. Profiting off of human suffering is profoundly immoral.

Your assessment could be correct but I doubt our side is that fiendishly clever.

131 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:27:48pm

re: #124 Digital Display

Ok.. I feel somewhat Qualified to speak about the direction of the GOP for the last 4 years. I think it's too easy to pigeonhole reasons because of the complexity of the politics and the general direction of the Conservatives in the US.
Something has happened to the GOP in the last 4 years...When I first came to LGF I proudly wrote Charles about who I was and sent him my Award of being the Republican of the year. Very Proud to be invited to the Presidents Dinner in DC. ( Shout out to the Stalkers of mine..Nobody invited you to meet Bush did they? Didn't think so Bitches)
I was proud to be the Party of the Grown ups..And in Charge.
When Obama was elected it was like a shockwave from a SuperNova hit the Party.
It's like the loss of power ripped a veil from the platform.
The grownups started acting like spoiled little children. Just one little piece of it was the great flounce of 2009.. But everywhere we stopped being grownups and went to the base elements of the far right of the GOP.
Everything now came into to play..including racism. I knew we were in trouble when I started getting pictures on my BB of a Black man lynched with Obama's face photoshopped on it..
I'm not riding that crazy train.. I switched parties 11-1-10.
I don't regret it for one second.. Even though there are some Dems I will always have distain for. That will never change.
Thank you Lizards!

Welcome! And don't worry about the disdain you have for some Democrats. That is natural and you couldn't be a real Democrat without it. ;)

132 Mocking Jay  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:30:06pm
133 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:30:54pm

re: #132 It's a cookbook!

Or he will create it. //

134 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:31:13pm

re: #132 It's a cookbook!

[Embedded content]

I don't trust my twitter skills. Is that Rupert Murdoch calling someone evil?

135 gwangung  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:31:24pm

re: #131 moderatelyradicalliberal

Welcome! And don't worry about the disdain you have for some Democrats. That is natural and you couldn't be a real Democrat without it. ;)

Yah, ya might be surprised how many Democrats share that disdain...

136 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:31:43pm

re: #130 Decatur Deb

Your assessment could be correct but I doubt our side is that fiendishly clever.

You don't have to be fiendishly clever to see that we are already doing single payer by attrition. If you combine Medicare, Medicaid and the VA the federal govt already pays for more than half of all medical costs in the country. You throw in a Medicaid expansion and I wouldn't be surprised if the government was paying for 75% of all health care costs in 10-15 years.

137 b_sharp  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:32:03pm

re: #127 Gus

Yeah. I just reset the Windows Firewall. Keep resetting Kaspersky. Works for a bit and then it starts blocking again. So I paused it and did a Ctl + F5 and then "connect" worked. Might have to reinstall Kaspersky.

You don't need both Kaspersky's firewall and Windows' firewall. Disable one of them.
If you have two antivirus progs running, disable one.

138 Digital Display  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:32:18pm

re: #132 It's a cookbook!

[Embedded content]

Hey Murdoch! If you really want the scoop just hack into Katie's phone.

139 b_sharp  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:33:08pm

re: #127 Gus

Yeah. I just reset the Windows Firewall. Keep resetting Kaspersky. Works for a bit and then it starts blocking again. So I paused it and did a Ctl + F5 and then "connect" worked. Might have to reinstall Kaspersky.

In fact if you are using a hardware router you don't need any other firewall, as long as the router's firewall is enabled.

140 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:33:35pm

re: #136 moderatelyradicalliberal

You don't have to be fiendishly clever to see that we are already doing single payer by attrition. If you combine Medicare, Medicaid and the VA the federal govt already pays for more than half of all medical costs in the country. You throw in a Medicaid expansion and I wouldn't be surprised if the government was paying for 75% of all health care costs in 10-15 years.

Throw in federally funded research, PHS, CDC, and the DoD system(s) and you get even closer.

141 Mocking Jay  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:34:24pm

re: #134 Decatur Deb

I don't trust my twitter skills. Is that Rupert Murdoch calling someone evil?

Yep.

142 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:34:54pm

re: #141 It's a cookbook!

Yep.

Classic.

143 Amory Blaine  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:35:26pm

re: #114 Interesting Times

Who is Leaking Who? Charlie Sykes Named in John Doe Documents

If you listen to Milwaukee talk radio you have no doubt heard WTMJ's Charlie Sykes crying to high heaven about the outrageous, politically motivated witch hunt of Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker being run out of the Milwaukee District Attorney's office. Milwaukee DA John Chisholm has been spearheading a secret "John Doe" criminal investigation of Walker's former staff and associates for two years now. Trials for four of Walker's associates are pending this fall.

According to Sykes, the DA's office is "leaking like a sieve" and is the source of a damaging article in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel -- a serious charge, since people can be criminally prosecuted for violating the secrecy rules of the John Doe. The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel's Dan Bice has broken most of the stories about the investigation, but has repeatedly denied that he is getting leaks from prosecutors.

Now we have new insight into some of the leakers and leakees. Former Walker deputy chief of staff, Tim Russell, is facing serious charges of embezzlement. Motions filed by the state in Tim Russell's case nail Russell's defense attorneys for keeping reporters up to date on developments. A reporter who should know this because he is on the receiving end? None other than Charlie Sykes.

Basically we have a hard right winger (Charlie Sykes) on the radio constantly claiming that the democratic DAs office is leaking info like a sieve. Meanwhile the leaks appear to be coming from defendants attorneys. And Charlie Sykes knew that before he started lying to the public on the radio about the DA.

144 Velvet Elvis  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:35:33pm

re: #136 moderatelyradicalliberal

You don't have to be fiendishly clever to see that we are already doing single payer by attrition. If you combine Medicare, Medicaid and the VA the federal govt already pays for more than half of all medical costs in the country. You throw in a Medicaid expansion and I wouldn't be surprised if the government was paying for 75% of all health care costs in 10-15 years.

Except the medicaid expansion is what the SC effectively blocked as there is no longer any mechanism to force states to comply with it.

145 b_sharp  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:35:37pm

re: #141 It's a cookbook!

Yep.

Will the real Rupert Murdoch please stand up.

146 God of Binders with Women  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:36:03pm

Drunken Pam = "center-right."
Jim "Dim" Hoft, AKA 'The Dumbest Man on the Internet' = "center-right."

Just trying to help, Mitt.
//

147 Gus  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:36:12pm

re: #139 b_sharp

In fact if you are using a hardware router you don't need any other firewall.

Thanks. The Kaspersky is just AV and not Security with the firewall. I'm also using an AT&T mobile connection at the moment.

148 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:36:18pm

re: #132 It's a cookbook!

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I think other religions are just jealous of Scientology. They have fervent believers who give over complete control of their lives and money to the authority of their church and are able to keep most of their dirt and weirdness a secret. Isn't that what they all want?

149 abolitionist  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:36:33pm

re: #139 b_sharp

In fact if you are using a hardware router you don't need any other firewall.

Maybe if you only have one machine behind the router, but if two or more, one firewall per machine is still prudent.

150 Amory Blaine  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:41:11pm

re: #143 Amory Blaine

Who is Leaking Who? Charlie Sykes Named in John Doe Documents

Basically we have a hard right winger (Charlie Sykes) on the radio constantly claiming that the democratic DAs office is leaking info like a sieve. Meanwhile the leaks appear to be coming from defendants attorneys. And Charlie Sykes knew that before he started lying to the public on the radio about the DA.

Respect the integrity of the John Doe inquiry
‎

The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reported this week that popular radio personality Charlie Sykes received leaked information about individuals who might be charged in the John Doe investigation of criminal wrongdoing by aides and allies of Gov. Scott Walker.

Sykes, a Walker enthusiast, reportedly received the information from an attorney for a former Walker aide who has become a target of the investigation.

So far, so good. Radio reporters and commentators rely on leaks. And we’ve got no problem with Sykes getting information and sharing it with his listeners.

But what is unsettling are the reports that, even as he was getting leaks from targets of the investigation, Sykes suggested that investigators and others associated with Milwaukee County District Attorney John Chisholm, who is pursuing the John Doe inquiry, had leaked the information.

That sounds an awfully lot like deliberate deception.

Watchdog groups like One Wisconsin Now are calling on Sykes’ superiors to reprimand him. We’re not particularly interested in personnel matters.

What we hope is that Sykes, whom we have respected as a serious and important commentator (even if we do not always agree with him) will be a bit more respectful of Chisholm and his investigators.

The John Doe investigation has been highly professional. It deserves the respect and support — yes, support, as this is an investigation of serious corruption issues — of Wisconsinites who believe in the rule of law, no matter what their partisan allegiances or ideological certainties.

151 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:41:29pm

re: #144 Conservative Moonbat

Except the medicaid expansion is what the SC effectively blocked as there is no longer any mechanism to force states to comply with it.

Don't let the nullification talk from GOP governors fool you. Most states will take the money eventually and I include my state of Texas in that. Most poor uninsured people in my home state don't vote, refusing them the opportunity for health care might make them get off their asses and do so. Some states will take the opportunity to create their own universal health care system like CA, OR and VT, but the others will be participating in the Medicaid expansion by the end of this decade.

152 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:41:35pm

re: #146 How Am I Gonna Get My Sixty Goals??!!

Drunken Pam = "center-right."
Jim "Dim" Hoft, AKA 'The Dumbest Man on the Internet' = "center-right."

Just trying to help, Mitt.
//

Those sites do fall inside some kind of cordon sanitaire. I'll read from them, almost always using Google cache. There are others I won't touch.

153 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:45:03pm

re: #124 Digital Display

I switched parties 11-1-10. I don't regret it for one second.. Even though there are some Dems I will always have distain for. That will never change.
Thank you Lizards!

"I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Democrat."
Will Rogers but still as true as ever.

154 Interesting Times  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:46:50pm
155 Mocking Jay  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:47:42pm

STAND YOUR GROUND LAWS CAUSED ‘NET INCREASE IN DEATHS’

Using homicide data from 2006 to 2008, the study by Georgia State University’s Chandler McClellan and Erdal Tekin, found that “between 4.4 and 7.4 additional white males are killed each month as a result of these laws” in states that have adopted them.

White males are dying. We may have to rethink this whole thing...

156 Gus  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:49:21pm

re: #154 Interesting Times

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Just go to the emergency room. They won't turn you away.

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157 Interesting Times  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:49:58pm

re: #156 Gus

Just go to the emergency room. They won't turn you away.

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158 Gus  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:50:33pm

Wingnuts got so butthurt over "RepublicanMovies" on Twitter yesterday that they've spent almost all day with their copy cat of "DemocratMovies". I won't bother looking. Losers.

159 Targetpractice  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:50:49pm

re: #156 Gus

Just go to the emergency room. They won't turn you away.

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"How can you say you don't have access to healthcare when you can go to the ER and they can't turn you away?!"

160 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:50:56pm

re: #156 Gus

Just go to the emergency room. They won't turn you away.

//

Bring a good book--War and Peace, maybe.

161 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:51:00pm

re: #129 Conservative Moonbat

That's not far from the truth. I've heard many insurance experts testify that the requirement that 85% of premiums be spent on medical care will make for-profit insurance companies a thing of the past. I can believe that it's part of the bill's intent to get big money out of insurance. Profiting off of human suffering is profoundly immoral.

The rule is 80% for plans covering small and medium businesses, the 85% rule applies in the large group market only.

In Switzerland insurance companies aren't allowed to make any profit on basic coverage, and survive just fine on profits from their actuarial priced supplemental plans.

162 Achilles Tang  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:52:59pm

re: #157 Interesting Times

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I looked at WND. That place is just as full of ridiculous, mostly irrelevant to the (mostly silly) topic at hand. Just a place where the racists or very simple minded go to spout, and be "liked".

163 Gus  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:53:34pm

re: #159 Targetpractice

"How can you say you don't have access to healthcare when you can go to the ER and they can't turn you away?!"

Yeah, been there. They do turn you away. I don't know about a brain tumor but the ER will only take you in if you're close to death, stabilize you if possible, then they'll send you packing. That's all the ER has to do. Stabilize your vital signs until you're good to be discharged. They won't "treat" a brain tumor. All they'll treat is whatever acute symptoms you may have from a brain tumor. A brain tumor would be considered a "chronic condition." ER's don't treat chronic conditions.

164 Targetpractice  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:53:35pm

re: #160 Decatur Deb

Bring a good book--War and Peace, maybe.

No shit. Went to the ER once at 6pm, left at midnight, with the bulk of that time waiting either in the waiting room or in the exam room.

165 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:53:49pm

re: #159 Targetpractice

"How can you say you don't have access to healthcare when you can go to the ER and they can't turn you away?!"

I so hate that particular soundbite argument. It sucks from a responsibility standpoint. It sucks from a medical efficiency standpoint. It sucks from an economic standpoint. It sucks on the basis of principled behavior.

166 engineer cat  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:53:50pm

re: #154 Interesting Times

GOP healthcare plan

actually, i'd say that the GOP healthcare plan is a society divided into classes according to income with different rights and privileges

167 Gus  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:54:40pm

re: #165 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

I so hate that particular soundbite argument. It sucks from a responsibility standpoint. It sucks from a medical efficiency standpoint. It sucks from an economic standpoint. It sucks on the basis of principled behavior.

Not only that but it sucks because it's a freaking lie.

168 Interesting Times  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 2:58:29pm

re: #158 Gus

Wingnuts got so butthurt over "RepublicanMovies" on Twitter yesterday that they've spent almost all day with their copy cat of "DemocratMovies".

Which, if you're using the "worldwide trends" view, was continually outranked by #CanadaDay and #DenounceHarper :)

169 blueraven  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 3:00:37pm

re: #90 Decatur Deb

Reine's tower is the one with stained-glass windows.

And she does wear a crown when she works. :-D

170 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 3:00:40pm

You want a good example of how political ideology can trump education? My stepdad has a Ph.D in Psychology and yet honestly seems to believe that the mental health of panhandlers can accurately be assessed by simply looking at their clothing. Trying to point out that a person's ability to wear what Goodwill provides them doesn't necessarily mean they can just go out, get and hold down a job.

There's a simplistic need among conservatives to dismiss the glaring deficits in mental health treatment in this country. There's a dark joke in there somewhere.

171 Targetpractice  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 3:00:41pm

re: #165 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

I so hate that particular soundbite argument. It sucks from a responsibility standpoint. It sucks from a medical efficiency standpoint. It sucks from an economic standpoint. It sucks on the basis of principled behavior.

It's the "let them eat cake" argument, repeated by assholes who've "got theirs" and couldn't give a fuck less about those who don't. The ones who don't realize how they're a pink slip away from relying upon the ER for when they can't nurse that cold or bind that wound any longer.

172 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 3:01:30pm

re: #166 engineer cat

actually, i'd say that the GOP healthcare plan is a society divided into classes according to income with different rights and privileges

"If living were a thing that money could buy,
You know the rich would live
And the poor would die,
All my trials Lord, soon be over."

173 Achilles Tang  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 3:02:16pm

re: #129 Conservative Moonbat

That's not far from the truth. I've heard many insurance experts testify that the requirement that 85% of premiums be spent on medical care will make for-profit insurance companies a thing of the past. I can believe that it's part of the bill's intent to get big money out of insurance. Profiting off of human suffering is profoundly immoral.

There can always be a place for gold plated plans to make a profit, such as insuring sky divers, mountain climbers, race drivers, football players, and the like.

174 sagehen  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 3:02:30pm

re: #144 Conservative Moonbat

Except the medicaid expansion is what the SC effectively blocked as there is no longer any mechanism to force states to comply with it.

There's strong motivation for most states to choose to comply with it.

For the first three years, the Feds pay all of it. After that, they pay 90%. Which is significantly more than they pay of the existing Medicaid.

175 engineer cat  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 3:03:21pm

looked at from a theological point of view, what is these days called "conservatism" often resembles the misinterpretation of the calvinist doctrines of predestination and unconditional election, where the error was that it was thought that prosperity on earth was a sign of election, and thus divine approval

176 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 3:05:12pm

re: #165 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

I so hate that particular soundbite argument. It sucks from a responsibility standpoint. It sucks from a medical efficiency standpoint. It sucks from an economic standpoint. It sucks on the basis of principled behavior.

It's not even accurate. The only thing that ER's do for free is basic stabilization, the bare minimum necessary to get a person out the door. Poor people can't just check into a hospital and get advanced cancer treatments without a plan. If they're really, really lucky sometimes that plan happens to be Medicaid or their county's medically indigent adult program, but so many people fall through the cracks in the system it's ridiculous.

177 Gus  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 3:07:02pm

re: #171 Targetpractice

It's the "let them eat cake" argument, repeated by assholes who've "got theirs" and couldn't give a fuck less about those who don't. The ones who don't realize how they're a pink slip away from relying upon the ER for when they can't nurse that cold or bind that wound any longer.

If that. A lot of these folks never even got theirs and are just blowing a lot of hot air. Many of them are uninsured and just by chance have never had a reason to seek medical care. Sure, they'll see you for a cold at the ER but that's rather simple. They'll give you a scrip for some cough syrup with codeine. Maybe. Say you cut off all your fingers with a band saw however. Sure, the ER will treat the trauma and the wound. However, they're under no obligation to reattach the fingers and perform microsurgery. It's all about stabilizing the patient, keep them from dying in the ER, and then discharging them.

178 Gus  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 3:08:14pm

Which means the ER will "treat" your heart attack. However, if that heart attack is caused by heart disease they won't treat the heart disease. Which means no bypass surgery, heart valve replacement, etc., by way of the ER.

179 Digital Display  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 3:08:29pm

re: #164 Targetpractice

No shit. Went to the ER once at 6pm, left at midnight, with the bulk of that time waiting either in the waiting room or in the exam room.

LOL..Anybody here that raised kids have a million stories about ER visits.
I have some classics..
None better than me getting into a legal fight with the Nuns of Queen of the Valley in Napa Valley..I turned it into a war and beat those Nuns..
So I take my kid to the ER for flu like symptoms. They are great there..Most of the Kids were born there..
So it was Flu Season and as a bunch of us were sitting in the waiting room came around and checked everyone's temp as a precaution. Cool.
Next week I get a Bill for a hundred dollars to get them to take my Temp.
I was making like 4 or 5 bucks an hour in those days.. We went to war.
I'll never forget getting into a fight with the Main Nurse as she sat behind her Administrators desk..I shredded her..I can only hope that God doesn't play that in Slo-Mo with the Angels in Heaven...

180 AntonSirius  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 3:09:51pm

re: #92 moderatelyradicalliberal

Nearly half the country is going to vote for Republicans

No, nearly half of those who actually vote will vote Republican.

The crazy is still about 27%. It's just trumped by the lazy & apathetic 44%.

181 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 3:10:39pm

re: #178 Gus

Which means the ER will "treat" your heart attack. However, if that heart attack is caused by heart disease they won't treat the heart disease. Which means no bypass surgery, heart valve replacement, etc., by way of the ER.

To that end the ER also isn't a pharmacy, so the prescriptions they give you aren't going to magically be filled.

182 sagehen  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 3:11:30pm

re: #173 Achilles Tang

There can always be a place for gold plated plans to make a profit, such as insuring sky divers, mountain climbers, race drivers, football players, and the like.

Or offering private rooms, 24-hour service for other-than-emergency, VIP maternity wards (I've heard they're really nice... pretty decorations, good stereo system, sound-proofed from the other patients, an extra day for vaginal delivery or 3 days for C-section, etc)

183 engineer cat  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 3:11:54pm

re: #180 AntonSirius

No, nearly half of those who actually vote will vote Republican.

The crazy is still about 27%. It's just trumped by the lazy & apathetic 44%.

i like to think that if everybody voted, the republican party would never get into power in any branch

but this proposition has never been put to the test...

184 Gus  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 3:12:55pm

Ha! PZ Myers gave thunderf00t the boot from Free Thoughts Blog (FtB). I can see that happening.

185 sagehen  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 3:14:04pm

re: #183 engineer cat

i like to think that if everybody voted, the republican party would never get into power in any branch

but this proposition has never been put to the test...

The Republican Party also thinks that. This is why they're trying so hard to disenfranchise people.

186 engineer cat  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 3:18:13pm

re: #185 sagehen

The Republican Party also thinks that. This is why they're trying so hard to disenfranchise people.

QED!

187 Gus  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 3:22:57pm

re: #184 Gus

Ha! PZ Myers gave thunderf00t the boot from Free Thoughts Blog (FtB). I can see that happening.

For the curious.

188 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 3:26:45pm

re: #187 Gus

For the curious.

That's like listening to one side of my grand-daughter's middle school cell phone traffic.

189 Targetpractice  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 3:29:29pm

Poll: Support For ‘Obamacare’ Up After Supreme Court Ruling

Support for the health care reform law increased after Thursday’s ruling in which the Supreme Court upheld the law, a new Reuters/Ipsos poll shows.

The number of registered voters who support the law rose from 43 percent before the decision to 48 percent afterward. Opposition went down to 52 percent from 57 percent.

Perhaps most important for Democrats, the survey showed support among independents jumping 11 percentage points, from 27 percent just before the ruling to 38 percent afterward. Among Republicans, opposition to the law dropped from 86 percent to 81 percent, thought the partisan divide over the law is still stark.

190 Gus  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 3:31:57pm

re: #188 Decatur Deb

That's like listening to one side of my grand-daughter's middle school cell phone traffic.

I thought it might have something to do with thunderf00t seeing Moozlamic raygunz again but it might be about "sexism at atheist seminars." To which thunderf00t took the "pfft, what sexism?" route I gather.

I miss Hitchens. These "atheist seminars" kind of remind me of Renn fairs.

191 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 3:33:56pm

re: #190 Gus

I thought it might have something to do with thunderf00t seeing Moozlamic raygunz again but it might be about "sexism at atheist seminars." To which thunderf00t took the "pfft, what sexism?" route I gather.

I miss Hitchens. These "atheist seminars" kind of remind me of Renn fairs.

Do they have belly dancers?

Youtube Video
192 Only The Lurker Knows  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 3:35:39pm

re: #2 Elias

Idiot. The people who run those web site not only actively promote those type of comments, they encourage them.

193 Gus  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 3:40:00pm

re: #191 Decatur Deb

Do they have belly dancers?

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This reminds me of why I don't belong to any clubs.

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194 Only The Lurker Knows  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 3:47:27pm

re: #37 It's a cookbook!

If we're taking bets on the next state to follow LA and FL's lead, I've got some money to put down on Texas...

I got 50 quatloos that says Idaho is going to be in the running.

195 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 3:54:16pm

Evening Lizardim. I see the rampaging derp-boners from last week have yet to subside. I think some people might be to the point where they need to see a doctor about that.

196 b_sharp  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 3:54:32pm

re: #149 abolitionist

Maybe if you only have one machine behind the router, but if two or more, one firewall per machine is still prudent.

As far as I'm concerned, blocked ports from the WAN is all that is needed. Firewalls don't stop viruses, they stop intrusions and malware using non-http ports so I'm not sure why the number of systems behind a firewall matters.

197 b_sharp  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 3:59:03pm

re: #184 Gus

Ha! PZ Myers gave thunderf00t the boot from Free Thoughts Blog (FtB). I can see that happening.

Thunderf00t is a bit of a misogynist.

198 Interesting Times  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 3:59:32pm

re: #194 Bubblehead II

On another note, still thinking of doing that Survival Page you mentioned earlier? The storm/power outage nightmare on the East Coast alone shows how relevant and timely the topic is...

199 Mattand  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 4:03:44pm

re: #184 Gus

re: #197 b_sharp

LOL, given the blogs and commenters involved, I'm sure the Internet record for people telling others to go fuck themselves was broken eight times today.

200 wrenchwench  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 4:06:09pm

Ry Cooder and Joe Klein take a musical detour in Dayton, Ohio to seek local fiddle legend Dan Gellert


[Link: www.time.com...]

201 b_sharp  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 4:07:21pm

re: #199 Mattand

re: #197 b_sharp

LOL, given the blogs and commenters involved, I'm sure the Internet record for people telling others to go fuck themselves was broken eight times today.

Just like the good old days at the atheist newsgroups.

202 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 4:08:36pm

re: #199 Mattand

re: #197 b_sharp

LOL, given the blogs and commenters involved, I'm sure the Internet record for people telling others to go fuck themselves was broken eight times today.

It was a good day for a troll barbecue.

203 Only The Lurker Knows  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 4:14:37pm

re: #198 Interesting Times

On another note, still thinking of doing that Survival Page you mentioned earlier? The storm/power outage nightmare on the East Coast alone shows how relevant and timely the topic is...

Still thinking about it and how to format it. It would have to be broken down into various pages due to the number of topics that would have to be covered. Not to mention that Survivalist Disaster Preparedness ideals tends to be ridiculed here (Gold/Survival seed et al)

204 Gus  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 4:16:09pm

Great. Thought I fixed this by adding a 32 bit Java alongside the 64 bit. Not the ding buttons disappeared.

205 Targetpractice  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 4:16:55pm

I don't even know how to respond to this:

What kind of mandate should “the right” have supported?

2. A rejection of health care egalitarianism, namely a recognition that the wealthy will purchase more and better health care than the poor. Trying to equalize health care consumption hurts the poor, since most feasible policies to do this take away cash from the poor, either directly or through the operation of tax incidence. We need to accept the principle that sometimes poor people will die just because they are poor. Some of you don’t like the sound of that, but we already let the wealthy enjoy all sorts of other goods — most importantly status — which lengthen their lives and which the poor enjoy to a much lesser degree. We shouldn’t screw up our health care institutions by being determined to fight inegalitarian principles for one very select set of factors which determine health care outcomes.

This is not a proposal from some no-name blogger, this is Tyler Cowen, a libertarian economist who writes for the New York Times and is a professor at George Mason University, arguing that it be the policy of this nation that the poor die because they are poor.

206 Gus  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 4:17:16pm

Clicked post twice and got this...

This comment has already been posted!
(It may take a few moments to appear.)
Return to the previous page...

Wait. My text formatting options also disappeared.

I give up.

207 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 4:18:10pm

re: #206 Gus

Clicked post twice and got this...

This comment has already been posted!
(It may take a few moments to appear.)
Return to the previous page...

Wait. My text formatting options also disappeared.

I give up.

Restart your browser.

Restart your computer.

This is not an automated tech support response.

208 Velvet Elvis  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 4:18:38pm

re: #204 Gus

Great. Thought I fixed this by adding a 32 bit Java alongside the 64 bit. Not the ding buttons disappeared.

Java isn't used anywhere on this (or pretty much any) website.

209 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 4:18:39pm

re: #203 Bubblehead II

Still thinking about it and how to format it. It would have to be broken down into various pages due to the number of topics that would have to be covered. Not to mention that Survivalist Disaster Preparedness ideals tends to be ridiculed here (Gold/Survival seed et al)

Nah. Crazyness is ridiculed, having your shit together isn't.

210 Gus  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 4:18:44pm

Connection reset for the millionth time...

Now it's reloading the page and sending me to the top when I post...

Freaking AT&T, Firefox, Kaspersky and Windows. I might as well fire up the bong and go to my laptop.

211 b_sharp  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 4:19:00pm

re: #206 Gus

Clicked post twice and got this...

This comment has already been posted!
(It may take a few moments to appear.)
Return to the previous page...

Wait. My text formatting options also disappeared.

I give up.

Recycle, Re-use and Reboot.

I think that's how it goes.

212 Velvet Elvis  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 4:19:44pm

re: #211 b_sharp

Recycle, Re-use and Reboot.

I think that's how it goes.

You forgot reinstall.

213 b_sharp  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 4:20:25pm

re: #209 Decatur Deb

Nah. Crazyness is ridiculed, having your shit together isn't.

Shit needs to kept in a neat pile, not strewn all over the place.

214 b_sharp  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 4:21:16pm

re: #210 Gus

Connection reset for the millionth time...

Now it's reloading the page and sending me to the top when I post...

Freaking AT&T, Firefox, Kaspersky and Windows. I might as well fire up the bong and go to my laptop.

Are you using your phone as a tether?

215 b_sharp  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 4:21:59pm

re: #212 Conservative Moonbat

You forgot reinstall.

Recycle, Re-install and Reboot.

216 Only The Lurker Knows  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 4:27:04pm

re: #209 Decatur Deb

Nah. Crazyness is ridiculed, having your shit together isn't.

Thanks. I try to stay away from the crazy.

BTW Charles, I tried to edit my previous post, with in the edit time frame, but the edits are not going though. This has happened a couple of time before.

Using Windows 7 and Safari 5.1.7 (5734.57.20 Build

217 MittDoesNotCompute  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 4:28:31pm

re: #205 Targetpractice

I don't even know how to respond to this:

What kind of mandate should “the right” have supported?

This is not a proposal from some no-name blogger, this is Tyler Cowen, a libertarian economist who writes for the New York Times and is a professor at George Mason University, arguing that it be the policy of this nation that the poor die because they are poor.

He must be a fellow of the (pre-Ghosts) Ebenezer Scrooge School of Economics.

Fuck him and those like him.

218 jaunte  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 4:43:06pm
219 Gus  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 4:44:48pm

Testing, 1, 2, 3. Testicles, 1, 2, 3.

220 dragonfire1981  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 4:46:24pm

re: #205 Targetpractice

I don't even know how to respond to this:

What kind of mandate should “the right” have supported?

This is not a proposal from some no-name blogger, this is Tyler Cowen, a libertarian economist who writes for the New York Times and is a professor at George Mason University, arguing that it be the policy of this nation that the poor die because they are poor.

I got into a long and heated discussion with someone awhile back over the "survival of the fittest" societal model. His argument was that other species don't have social safety nets. If you don't look after yourself, you die. If you can't find food, you die. If you are born with a defect (mental or physical) you die quickly because you are more vulnerable than stronger, healthier creatures.

He felt that since most species in nature adhere to this model, it made sense for humans too as well.

I disagreed.

Personally, I understand that as a collective entity, be that either as a Country, State, County or City that EVERYONE has shared responsibilities and a duty to contribute to certain areas that promote the well being of the whole. For example, we should all pay towards upkeep for the roads because we all drive on them, we should all pay for the water system because we all use it, and so forth.

The notion that some human beings are not entitled to the most BASIC level of health care is completely asinine.

Personally I'm in favor of a hybrid system where a government option exists that covers basic and preventative care, and a private system exists for those who want to spend more money to get more specialized care.

221 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 4:46:48pm

re: #219 Gus

Testing, 1, 2, 3. Testicles, 1, 2, 3.

[dobro slide.]

222 dragonfire1981  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 4:47:03pm

re: #217 SunshineSuperman

He must be a fellow of the (pre-Ghosts) Ebenezer Scrooge School of Economics.

Fuck him and those like him.

Heck Scrooge might as well be the patron saint of the modern GOP.

223 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 4:47:12pm

re: #2 Elias

It's unfair to judge a website by the comments of its articles. Because the people who comment on websites are often the dumbest.

It's not that hard to keep open racism off of a comment thread. Sites that do not do so usually do not because they want racists to post there.

224 b_sharp  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 4:48:50pm

re: #219 Gus

Testing, 1, 2, 3. Testicles, 1, 2, 3.

Well that comment sure had balls.

225 Gus  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 4:50:37pm

re: #224 b_sharp

Well that comment sure had balls.

I uninstalled Kaspersky and will reinstall then do a manual update from their downloads area. Seriously this crap still pisses me off. Forking computers are a pain in the ass.

226 b_sharp  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 4:51:06pm

re: #220 dragonfire1981

I got into a long and heated discussion with someone awhile back over the "survival of the fittest" societal model. His argument was that other species don't have social safety nets. If you don't look after yourself, you die. If you can't find food, you die. If you are born with a defect (mental or physical) you die quickly because you are more vulnerable than stronger, healthier creatures.

He felt that since most species in nature adhere to this model, it made sense for humans too as well.

I disagreed.

Personally, I understand that as a collective entity, be that either as a Country, State, County or City that EVERYONE has shared responsibilities and a duty to contribute to certain areas that promote the well being of the whole. For example, we should all pay towards upkeep for the roads because we all drive on them, we should all pay for the water system because we all use it, and so forth.

The notion that some human beings are not entitled to the most BASIC level of health care is completely asinine.

Personally I'm in favor of a hybrid system where a government option exists that covers basic and preventative care, and a private system exists for those who want to spend more money to get more specialized care.

I wish people would drop the idea that fittest means biggest/toughest/most violent. It doesn't.

The fittest means best able to adapt to a changing environment, and sometimes that means developing cooperation, as humans have done.

227 jaunte  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 4:51:35pm

re: #220 dragonfire1981

I got into a long and heated discussion with someone awhile back over the "survival of the fittest" societal model. His argument was that other species don't have social safety nets.

He should read a bit more:
[Link: www.sciencemag.org...]

228 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 4:51:50pm

re: #225 Gus

I uninstalled Kaspersky and will reinstall then do a manual update from their downloads area. Seriously this crap still pisses me off. Forking computers are a pain in the ass.

Yes, yes they are. Now imagine how those of us whose entire job it is to work on/with them must feel.

229 b_sharp  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 4:52:51pm

re: #225 Gus

I uninstalled Kaspersky and will reinstall then do a manual update from their downloads area. Seriously this crap still pisses me off. Forking computers are a pain in the ass.

They've been my bread and butter for almost 20 years.

230 Gus  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 4:53:33pm

re: #228 thedopefishlives

Yes, yes they are. Now imagine how those of us whose entire job it is to work on/with them must feel.

Probably like dealing with clients who can't make up their minds about a color choice.

"That has too much blue in it."

3 hours later.

"That doesn't have enough blue in it."

[Hurl]

//

231 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 4:54:55pm

re: #230 Gus

Probably like dealing with clients who can't make up their minds about a color choice.

"That has too much blue in it."

3 hours later.

"That doesn't have enough blue in it."

[Hurl]

//

Pretty close to it.

232 MittDoesNotCompute  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 4:55:11pm

re: #219 Gus

Testing, 1, 2, 3. Testicles, 1, 2, 3.

Youtube Video

/"1, 2, 3...they're all there."

233 Gus  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 4:56:36pm

re: #229 b_sharp

They've been my bread and butter for almost 20 years.

"What's for dinner ma!"

"Oh, bread and butter."

"Not again ma!"

//

234 b_sharp  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 4:58:14pm

re: #230 Gus

Probably like dealing with clients who can't make up their minds about a color choice.

"That has too much blue in it."

3 hours later.

"That doesn't have enough blue in it."

[Hurl]

//

By Unix, I think you've got it.

235 Gus  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 4:59:05pm

re: #234 b_sharp

By Unix, I think you've got it.

Oh crap. Just experienced something weird. Clicked on a directory and got multiple windows opening up. I think she might be breaking up captain.

236 b_sharp  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 5:00:14pm

re: #235 Gus

Oh crap. Just experienced something weird. Clicked on a directory and got multiple windows opening up. I think she might be breaking up captain.

Head for the life pods.

237 Gus  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 5:01:51pm

re: #236 b_sharp

Head for the life pods.

Either that or I'm spazzing out here and did some super dooper weird clicking on something. I do have another suspect though. Mystic thumbnails.

238 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 5:01:58pm

re: #235 Gus

Oh crap. Just experienced something weird. Clicked on a directory and got multiple windows opening up. I think she might be breaking up captain.

All hands on deck, prepare to launch the lifeboats. She's going down.

239 Gus  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 5:02:54pm

re: #237 Gus

Either that or I'm spazzing out here and did some super dooper weird clicking on something. I do have another suspect though. Mystic thumbnails.

Mystic Thumbs

240 b_sharp  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 5:03:23pm

re: #237 Gus

Either that or I'm spazzing out here and did some super dooper weird clicking on something. I do have another suspect though. Mystic thumbnails.

When's the last time you updated and ran either spybot or Malwarebytes anti-malware?

241 Gus  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 5:04:03pm

That's right folks. It's only the year 2012 and Microsoft still has their head up their ass about creating thumbnails for Windows 7 64 bit.

Oh. You know what else really sucks? Adobe Flash.

242 Gus  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 5:04:46pm

re: #240 b_sharp

When's the last time you updated and ran either spybot or Malwarebytes anti-malware?

This morning. It's fine on that end.

243 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 5:05:09pm

re: #241 Gus

That's right folks. It's only the year 2012 and Microsoft still has their head up their ass about creating thumbnails for Windows 7 64 bit.

Oh. You know what else really sucks? Adobe Flash.

Microsoft is a day late and a dollar short in the modern era of highly mobile devices. As for Flash, most web people consider it a widely overused ugly hack to replace the skill and experience of a real web developer.

244 b_sharp  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 5:05:13pm

re: #241 Gus

That's right folks. It's only the year 2012 and Microsoft still has their head up their ass about creating thumbnails for Windows 7 64 bit.

Oh. You know what else really sucks? Adobe Flash.

Flash is (finally) on its way out, HTML 5 is coming on strong.
(I keep telling myself)

245 b_sharp  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 5:06:18pm

re: #242 Gus

This morning. It's fine on that end.

Do you ever run a drive check (chkdsk) and a defrag, followed by sfc?

246 Gus  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 5:07:33pm

re: #245 b_sharp

Do you ever run a drive check (chkdsk) and a defrag, followed by sfc?

Not for a while. This is a new machine from December with an SSD running the OS.

247 Gus  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 5:08:02pm

Trying to see if it was Kaspersky screwing up LGF. So far so good.

248 b_sharp  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 5:10:37pm

re: #246 Gus

Not for a while. This is a new machine from December with an SSD running the OS.

SSDs have their own problems but questionable clusters isn't a common one.

I'm not sure how to help you, Gus, without some hands-on testing.

249 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 5:11:04pm

re: #248 b_sharp

SSDs have their own problems but questionable clusters isn't a common one.

I'm not sure how to help you, Gus, without some hands-on testing.

It may just be time for a good old BARF*.


* Bi-Annual Re-Format.

250 Varek Raith  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 5:11:05pm

Formatting fixes everything.
;P

251 b_sharp  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 5:12:50pm

re: #249 thedopefishlives

It may just be time for a good old BARF*.

* Bi-Annual Re-Format.

Thankfully, those days aren't as common as they used to be. At one time the order of program install could affect stability, now not so much.

252 Varek Raith  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 5:13:18pm

DLL hell ftw!
/

253 b_sharp  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 5:13:26pm

re: #250 Varek Raith

Formatting fixes everything.
;P

Yup, it leaves nothing to go wrong.

254 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 5:13:32pm

re: #251 b_sharp

Thankfully, those days aren't as common as they used to be. At one time the order of program install could affect stability, now not so much.

Yeah, I've seen some pretty crazy things from back in the days of Windows 95/98. FAT32 was a plague and a nuisance and I for one am glad that it has met its demise.

255 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 5:14:11pm

re: #254 thedopefishlives

I remember at one time, I had to switch versions of video device drivers depending on which game I wanted to play on the machine.

256 Gus  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 5:14:20pm

re: #248 b_sharp

SSDs have their own problems but questionable clusters isn't a common one.

I'm not sure how to help you, Gus, without some hands-on testing.

Thanks. It's really not that bad. More of a pain in the ass that I know I can fix. It's annoying.

257 Varek Raith  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 5:15:38pm

"What Ms. Kennedy and others were saying is that this is a new government-granted right. We disagree with the notion that our rights come from government, that the government can now grant us and define our rights. Those are ours, they come from nature and God, according to the Declaration of Independence -- a huge difference in philosophy."
-Rep. Paul Ryan

258 MittDoesNotCompute  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 5:16:59pm

re: #247 Gus

Trying to see if it was Kaspersky screwing up LGF. So far so good.

I used to pay for NOD32, but I don't pay for antivirus anymore since Microsoft Security Essentials has been available. It's fairly decent, easy-to-use, updated very regularly, and is free.

MSE, along with the version of Windows Firewall in Win7 and a good wired/wireless router with built-in NAT and SPI firewall, is more than good enough for most home users.

259 b_sharp  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 5:19:34pm

re: #258 SunshineSuperman

I used to pay for NOD32, but I don't pay for antivirus anymore since Microsoft Security Essentials has been available. It's fairly decent, easy-to-use, updated very regularly, and is free.

I always install MSE, CCleaner and Malwarebytes Anti-malware on new systems.

MSE is slow, but fairly accurate and has zero cost.

260 b_sharp  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 5:20:43pm

The only Norton software I had to have was Norton Utilities, back when FAT was the only option.

261 Varek Raith  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 5:20:49pm

re: #259 b_sharp

I always install MSE, CCleaner and Malwarebytes Anti-malware on new systems.

MSE is slow, but fairly accurate and has zero cost.

Why u copy me?
/

262 Targetpractice  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 5:20:55pm

re: #257 Varek Raith

"What Ms. Kennedy and others were saying is that this is a new government-granted right. We disagree with the notion that our rights come from government, that the government can now grant us and define our rights. Those are ours, they come from nature and God, according to the Declaration of Independence -- a huge difference in philosophy."
-Rep. Paul Ryan

Yes, only God can grant us rights, but the Right gets to define which rights that God grants us, which is why they're absolutely sure he wanted them to own enough guns to arm a small African nation, but also wanted them to keep gays from marrying or poor folks from getting equal access to health care.

263 Gus  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 5:21:41pm

re: #260 b_sharp

The only Norton software I had to have was Norton Utilities, back when FAT was the only option.

Mmmmm, Norton.

264 b_sharp  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 5:21:51pm

re: #261 Varek Raith

Why u copy me?
/

Because you make Deathstars?

265 Aye Pod  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 5:23:37pm

re: #184 Gus

Ha! PZ Myers gave thunderf00t the boot from Free Thoughts Blog (FtB). I can see that happening.

Youtube Video

Well, what a load of stupid mince this video is. TF taking the 'Let me tell you, as a man, that there is no misogyny - at least none worth bothering about. It's all political correctness gone mad I say.' line and illustrating his points with pretend scientific looking graphs based on supposed or imaginary data. I'm not surprised Meyers gave him the boot on the strength of this kind of crap.

266 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 5:24:22pm

re: #257 Varek Raith

"What Ms. Kennedy and others were saying is that this is a new government-granted right. We disagree with the notion that our rights come from government, that the government can now grant us and define our rights. Those are ours, they come from nature and God, according to the Declaration of Independence -- a huge difference in philosophy."
-Rep. Paul Ryan

Government should not be thought of as granting rights, but rather as protecting them. A person's right to property is innate, with government as its guarantor, not its originator. That said, that right is limited and government does have to act as the enforcer of those limits.

267 Lidane  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 5:26:11pm
This is “center right” now?

Yeah, pretty much. It's been center-right since 2008.

It's amazing just how unhinged some folks got when a black man got elected POTUS. Just imagine what they'll be like if he wins a second term.

268 Iwouldprefernotto  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 5:26:12pm

re: #2 Elias

It's unfair to judge a website by the comments of its articles. Because the people who comment on websites are often the dumbest.

How should we evaluate Web sites? All we have is what they say and what some of their listeners write. Yah, it's not "fair," but it's all we have.

269 researchok  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 5:27:11pm

re: #263 Gus

Check this out.

Gizmos. Good security software list

270 b_sharp  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 5:29:09pm

re: #266 Dark_Falcon

Government should not be thought of as granting rights, but rather as protecting them. A person's right to property is innate, with government as its guarantor, not its originator. That said, that right is limited and government does have to act as the enforcer of those limits.

How is the right to property innate? We evolved as nomadic people with little connection to specific land beyond protected hunting areas.

If the right to property is innate, then how are we supposed to respond to finding cultures in possession of land of their own?

271 Gus  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 5:29:57pm

re: #265 Aye Pod

[Embedded content]

Well, what a load of stupid mince this video is. TF taking the 'Let me tell you, as a man, that there is no misogyny - at least none worth bothering about. It's all political correctness gone mad I say.' line and illustrating his points with pretend scientific looking graphs based on supposed or imaginary data. I'm not surprised Meyers gave him the boot on the strength of this kind of crap.

Have to watch that later but I'm pretty sure I know what to expect. TF is annoying.

272 Lidane  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 5:30:02pm

re: #254 thedopefishlives

LOL @ FAT32. I definitely will not miss it.

273 Gus  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 5:30:48pm

ThunderFootInHisMouth

//

274 Lidane  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 5:31:22pm

re: #266 Dark_Falcon

If the right to property is innate, plz to explain the Native American reservations.

275 b_sharp  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 5:33:37pm

re: #269 researchok

Check this out.

Gizmos. Good security software list

Add 'bleepingcomputer.com' and it's a good start.

Habits are most important.

276 b_sharp  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 5:34:41pm

re: #272 Lidane

LOL @ FAT32. I definitely will not miss it.

Still need it to install some bootloaders on things like USB drives.

277 blueraven  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 5:35:46pm

re: #266 Dark_Falcon

Government should not be thought of as granting rights, but rather as protecting them. A person's right to property is innate, with government as its guarantor, not its originator. That said, that right is limited and government does have to act as the enforcer of those limits.

Then what is DOMA all about? Doesn't it grant rights for some but not others? Why is this OK for most conservatives? Why is it OK for government to decide who can marry?

278 Gus  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 5:36:34pm

Still nothing. Must have been some stupid Kaspersky update coming over AT&T's crappy 3G wireless.

279 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 5:37:37pm

For Inspector Morse fans: PBS here is showing a one-off prequel to the story. Endeavor Morse is a rookie detective in 1965. Shows here at 9PM CDT.

280 b_sharp  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 5:38:52pm

The right to property, and this includes personal possessions not just land, is a product of the change from nomadic hunter-gatherer cultures, where sharing within the community was vital to survival, as was the protection of hunting areas, to agrarian communities built on specialization of function and barter as a way of sharing products of labour.

Property is not an innate property (sorry) of being human.

281 b_sharp  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 5:39:53pm

re: #279 Decatur Deb

For Inspector Morse fans: PBS here is showing a one-off prequel to the story. Endeavor Morse is a rookie detective in 1965. Shows here at 9PM CDT.

I'll wait until the Enterprise Morse show comes out.

282 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 5:40:52pm

re: #281 b_sharp

I'll wait until the Enterprise Morse show comes out.

He's quite Intrepid.

283 b_sharp  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 5:41:16pm

re: #261 Varek Raith

Why u copy me?
/

You extra-terrestrial aliens all look alike.

284 Gus  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 5:46:20pm

Hope Kaspersky isn't going down the shitter like a lot of tech companies seem to do.

285 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 5:47:38pm

re: #284 Gus

Hope Kaspersky isn't going down the shitter like a lot of tech companies seem to do.

Well, you could always get Norton 360 like me.

[DF dives into his bunker]

286 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 5:49:18pm

re: #279 Decatur Deb

Yes. They have been featuring it on the local PBS Station highlights. [Link: www.whyy.org...] It is one of the rotating highlights.

287 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 5:49:51pm

BBL

288 Gus  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 5:50:27pm

re: #285 Dark_Falcon

Well, you could always get Norton 360 like me.

[DF dives into his bunker]

I updated Flash last week. They already have another security update out over that. Over and over again. It never stops. It's annoying.

289 b_sharp  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 5:50:50pm

re: #285 Dark_Falcon

Well, you could always get Norton 360 like me.

[DF dives into his bunker]

Norton, along with its cousin McAfee were the original bloatware. The last couple of years, Norton has really improved both speed and accuracy. Now they are consistently rated near the top.

290 Targetpractice  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 5:51:55pm

re: #283 b_sharp

You extra-terrestrial aliens all look alike.

You humans are all racist.

/(gamer moment)

291 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 5:52:12pm

re: #288 Gus

I updated Flash last week. They already have another security update out over that. Over and over again. It never stops. It's annoying.

Flash is, or was the last time I checked, far and away the #1 source of security vulnerabilities in Windows machines. Lack of proper Web browser sandboxing is part of it, along with shady coding practices in cheap Flash applications (and in the Flash player itself). There's a good reason it's on its way out.

292 b_sharp  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 5:52:32pm

re: #290 Targetpractice

You humans are all racist.

/(gamer moment)

Fuckin'eh.

293 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 5:53:19pm

Good Night to my fellow Lizards.

294 b_sharp  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 5:53:19pm

re: #291 thedopefishlives

Flash is, or was the last time I checked, far and away the #1 source of security vulnerabilities in Windows machines. Lack of proper Web browser sandboxing is part of it, along with shady coding practices in cheap Flash applications (and in the Flash player itself). There's a good reason it's on its way out.

When it is gone, it will be party time.

295 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 5:54:39pm

For the Canadians on Canada Day--We owe you a couple, going back to the Iran hostages you snuck away. Here's a black-and-tan.

296 b_sharp  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 5:55:59pm

re: #295 Decatur Deb

For the Canadians on Canada Day--We owe you a couple, going back to the Iran hostages you snuck away. Here's a black-and-tan.

It's not so bad wearing us as a hat, is it?

Even if we're just a bunch of socialists.

297 Gus  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 5:56:13pm

re: #289 b_sharp

Norton, along with its cousin McAfee were the original bloatware. The last couple of years, Norton has really improved both speed and accuracy. Now they are consistently rated near the top.

It slices! It dices! It chops! It's... NORTON!

298 Gus  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 5:56:29pm

re: #294 b_sharp

When it is gone, it will be party time.

Steve Jobs was right.

299 b_sharp  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 5:58:03pm

re: #298 Gus

Steve Jobs was right.

Sort of.

I did switch from an iPad to an Android tablet because of the inability to watch quite a few videos.

300 Gus  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 5:59:51pm

re: #299 b_sharp

Sort of.

I did switch from an iPad to an Android tablet because of the inability to watch quite a few videos.

Well, yeah. Problem of course is that we're kind of stuck with Flash for the time being.

301 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 6:00:00pm

re: #296 b_sharp

It's not so bad wearing us as a hat, is it?

Even if we're just a bunch of socialists.

I have nothing against my neighbors to the north. Heck, one of you crazy Canucks is a cornerstone member of our baseball team.

302 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 6:00:22pm

re: #300 Gus

Well, yeah. Problem of course is that we're kind of stuck with Flash for the time being.

At least YouTube supports HTML 5, which should help speed the transition away from Flash.

303 Gus  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 6:00:22pm

Alas. Something that always works correctly. Whiskey.

304 b_sharp  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 6:01:29pm

re: #303 Gus

Alas. Something that always works correctly. Whiskey.

We've had a long history of perfecting alcohol poisoning.

305 b_sharp  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 6:02:29pm

re: #302 thedopefishlives

At least YouTube supports HTML 5, which should help speed the transition away from Flash.

Yah, but what does youporn use?

306 Aye Pod  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 6:02:32pm

Eset Nod 32 for me. I hardly know it's there.

307 Gus  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 6:02:47pm

re: #304 b_sharp

We've had a long history of perfecting alcohol poisoning.

My body is my temple. I have a TED Talks seminar I'm giving on that in Boulder next week. Will also include a segment on living to be 100.

//

308 Gus  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 6:03:28pm

Why is that all those "live to be 100" guys die young?

//

309 b_sharp  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 6:04:47pm

re: #306 Aye Pod

Eset Nod 32 for me. I hardly know it's there.

It's been number one for a few years.

310 b_sharp  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 6:05:47pm

re: #308 Gus

Why is that all those "live to be 100" guys die young?

//

Do what I say, not what I do.

Quality of life is more important than length of life, IMHO.

311 Gus  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 6:06:30pm

re: #310 b_sharp

Do what I say, not what I do.

Quality of life is more important than length of life, IMHO.

Genetics too.

312 abolitionist  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 6:07:23pm

re: #250 Varek Raith

Formatting fixes everything.
;P

re: #253 b_sharp

Yup, it leaves nothing to go wrong.

Disagree. Many moons ago, shortly after a storm/power-outage, a friend called for help with a win2000 machine that wouldn't boot. Using a custom boot floppy, I was able to explore the HD.

Found multiple logical drives. (There should have been just C-drive.) Found multiple copies of directory trees containing system software, drivers and utilities for win3.11, w95, w98, win2K, XP-pro, Mac OS9, linux, etc. Some were obviously hacker tools.

The scandisk log indicated several thousand bad clusters, amounting to about 30% of the HD capacity. Yet windows had still booted for a day or two after that scan.

The most recent log on the C-drive was the modem log, indicating a failed attempt to dial out. (Comp was normally networked via ethernet, not dialup.)

I convinced my friend that disinfecting it (yet again) was hopeless, so we used the Freedos flavor of Fdisk to re-initialize the HD, *then* reformatted, and re-installed.

313 b_sharp  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 6:07:45pm

re: #311 Gus

Genetics too.

That goes without saying.

314 b_sharp  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 6:12:00pm

re: #312 abolitionist

re: #253 b_sharp

Disagree. Many moons ago, shortly after a storm/power-outage, a friend called for help with a win2000 machine that wouldn't boot. Using a custom boot floppy, I was able to explore the HD.

Found multiple logical drives. (There should have been just C-drive.) Found multiple copies of directory trees containing system software, drivers and utilities for win3.11, w95, w98, win2K, XP-pro, Mac OS9, linux, etc.
Some were obviously hacker tools.

The scandisk log indicated several thousand bad clusters, amounting to about 30% of the HD capacity. Yet windows had still booted for a day or two after that scan.

The most recent log on the C-drive was the modem log, indicating a failed attempt to dial out. (Comp was normally networked via ethernet, not dialup.)

I convinced my friend that disinfecting it (yet again) was hopeless, so we used the Freedos flavor of Fdisk to re-initialize the HD, *then* reformatted, and re-installed.

My point was a freshly formatted drive with no software has little to go wrong. It was a smart-ass crack.

I use gparted to repartition.

315 Gus  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 6:15:37pm

re: #313 b_sharp

That goes without saying.

Yep. All it takes is being born with one messed up heart valve as I mentioned above. Kind of sucks but what can you do. Life is strange like that. I started thinking about these things watching 6 Feet Under and Liveleak. The latter reminds me of how easy it is to get mess up just doing the most benign things like walking along side your parked car. It really does pay to be "paranoid" about those things sometimes. Such as never assume that people will see you.

316 Gus  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 6:16:17pm

re: #306 Aye Pod

Eset Nod 32 for me. I hardly know it's there.

Yo you. That was my second choice after Kaspersky whom I'm mad at now. ;)

317 bernielomax  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 6:30:07pm

Drudge is closer to center than MSNBC is

318 blueraven  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 6:44:11pm

Oh brother

319 Kronocide  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 7:00:43pm

re: #317 bernielomax

Drudge is closer to center than MSNBC is

LOL whut?

320 jaunte  Sun, Jul 1, 2012 7:16:28pm

re: #43 Elias

I'm not saying Breitbart is not an extremist website. I'm just saying that the comments are not relevant to judge that. I know a lot of very good, mainstream websites which tolerate this kind of comments.

It's not a drunken party, it's just a party with a lot of drunks.

321 wheat-dogg  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 12:16:11am

re: #220 dragonfire1981

Maybe he's right when it comes to dogs or wolves. I believe chimpanzees and gorillas take care of the weaker members of their groups (up to a point), rather than let them be eaten by predators.

Besides, aren't we supposed to be better than the "lower" animals?

322 GunstarGreen  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 6:35:30am

So yeah, I think it's pretty telling that Breitbart has to (try to) physically prevent the commentors from dragging race into everything, however ineffectually, by coding in wordfilters for basic race identification words such as "black", "arab" and "mulatto".

You know it's bad when you can't trust your commenting community with simple words like that.

323 CarolJ  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 7:39:56am

re: #178 Gus

Amen. When I went to the ER in early March for what I thought was a severe asthma attack, I was admitted and ended up with 2 cardiac stents. But I would have gotten just the stents (and a massive bill) if I hadn't had insurance. And the emergency room wouldn't have covered my medications or my cardiac rehab or my followup care.

324 bronxboy47  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 9:01:47am

re: #2 Elias

You do realize you've just outed yourself and simultaneously insulted all who comment on this site.

325 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 9:54:08am
My jaw hit the floor when I read this headline. “Center-right?” They have got to be kidding. Breitbart.com has been busily promoting every lunatic far right conspiracy theory that bubbles up from the toxic Tea Party base, including Birtherism. And Drudge Report? You mean the site that has a permanent link to Alex Jones’ whacked-out conspiracy site and frequently features their insane stories? This is “center right” now?

Yes, fully bipartisan nonpartisan. Just disinterested American loving patriots. Just like the teabaggers. //

326 bernielomax  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 10:03:35am

re: #2 Elias

i totally agree

327 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 10:11:00am

re: #326 bernielomax

Of course you do.


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