Right Wing Joke of the Day: Anderson Cooper Teabagging Durr Hurr

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Wingnuts seem to love this joke; it’s always a special moment when the leading lights of the online conservative movement go into Sexually Frustrated Adolescent Idiot Boy mode.

From breitbart.com’s Ben Shapiro and Media Research Center weirdo Brent Bozell:

Homophobia much?

Mediaite’s Tommy Christopher had a few well-chosen words for Mr. Bozell and Michelle Malkin’s fake news site twitchy.com earlier:

Also see
Brent Bozell on Anderson Cooper Being Gay: ‘Can [He] Give Us His Expert Opinion on Teabagging Now?’

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475 comments
1 SpikeDad  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 5:26:23pm

But, but it's both sides of politics that do this. You remember all the left-wing blogs that made teabagging jokes when a Republican was forced to come out (mostly because they were arrested in some bus stop).

Crickets..Crickets..Crickets..

2 Gus  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 5:27:24pm

And we're off!

Edit: Or maybe not. Never mind. I haz confusion from teh heat.

3 jaunte  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 5:28:21pm

December 3, 2009:
Conservatives Debate: Is 'Teabagger' Their 'N-Word'?
[Link: tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com...]

Jay Nordlinger:
"The first big day for this movement was Tax Day, April 15. And organizers had a gimmick. They asked people to send a tea bag to the Oval Office. One of the exhortations was "Tea Bag the Fools in D.C." A protester was spotted with a sign saying, "Tea Bag the Liberal Dems Before They Tea Bag You." So, conservatives started it: started with this terminology. But others ran with it and ran with it."

4 dragonfire1981  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 5:36:08pm

Meanwhile, on the Left wing humor side, there is the always awesome George Takei.

6 Gus  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 5:38:42pm

Ben Shapiro of Breitbart.com. Representing "Mitt Romney's center-right point of view."

7 bratwurst  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 5:42:21pm

re: #1 SpikeDad

But, but it's both sides of politics that do this. You remember all the left-wing blogs that made teabagging jokes when a Republican was forced to come out (mostly because they were arrested in some bus stop).

Crickets..Crickets..Crickets..

Well to be fair, I laughed and laughed about the whole Senator Larry Craig saga...but that had everything to do with the hypocrisy of someone who had a strong anti-LGBT voting record pleading guilty to public mens room hijinx, and nothing to do with hatred of homosexuals.

8 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 5:55:24pm

Ugh. Teenager-level humor from teenager-level intellect. And they wonder why people keep declaring their divorce from the Right.

9 dragonfire1981  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 5:55:37pm

re: #7 bratwurst

Well to be fair, I laughed and laughed about the whole Senator Larry Craig saga...but that had everything to do with the hypocrisy of someone who had a strong anti-LGBT voting record pleading guilty to public mens room hijinx, and nothing to do with hatred of homosexuals.

Wasn't there some study not so long ago that said being fiercely anti-gay can be a strong indicator that you may be in the closet? (Not that a lot of people didn't already believe this anyway...)

10 SpaceJesus  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 5:57:01pm

i can't muster even a modicum of "give a shit" about this news. everybody knew anderson was gay. are the wingers already tired of predicting marxist obummercare destruction? how do they keep this crap up?

11 nines09  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 5:59:48pm

Ah. The Center-Right is heard from once again. Back to you, Mitt.

12 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 6:18:26pm

re: #3 jaunte

December 3, 2009:
Conservatives Debate: Is 'Teabagger' Their 'N-Word'?
[Link: tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com...]

Never will forget the day when I educated my young co worker on the tea bag movement. "teabaggers? Really?"

Hilarious

14 prairiefire  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 6:23:14pm

One of Anderson's first memories was of scented candles and his mother's sparkling silver table centerpieces. I read that and thought hmmmmm.

15 abolitionist  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 6:32:52pm

Bill Gates, Microsoft Founder, Steve Ballmer, Microsoft CEO, Each Donate $100,000 For Marriage Equality
Excerpt:

Gates and Ballmer aren't the only high-profile members of the technology community to make significant contributions for marriage equality. Chris Hughes, a co-founder of Facebook and the editor-in-chief of the New Republic, promised Mainers United for Marriage that if the campaign raised more than $100,000, he and his now husband, Sean Eldridge, would match the donation, according to the Bangor Daily News. Mainers United for Marriage announced last month that it had raised more than $120,000.

16 Gus  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 6:33:55pm

From TPM: GOP Teen Idol Jonathan Krohn Defects From Conservative Movement

...

Attributing his newfound skepticism of the right to a close reading of German philosophy, he’s now leaning toward supporting Barack Obama, backs the Affordable Care Act and has moved left on social issues like gay marriage.

...

The irrelevant man-child Ben Shapiro has a sad:

17 jaunte  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 6:36:19pm

re: #16 Gus

Is Ben 17 yet?

18 b_sharp  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 6:37:39pm

re: #1 SpikeDad

But, but it's both sides of politics that do this. You remember all the left-wing blogs that made teabagging jokes when a Republican was forced to come out (mostly because they were arrested in some bus stop).

Crickets..Crickets..Crickets..

The right is only interested in teabagging when they have to pay for it.

19 Gus  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 6:37:43pm

re: #17 jaunte

Is Ben 17 yet?

Doesn't look like it.

//

20 jaunte  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 6:39:01pm
21 Gus  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 6:39:11pm

Red states; anti-ACA:

Image: Lung_cancer_US_distribution.gif

22 b_sharp  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 6:43:21pm

re: #17 jaunte

Is Ben 17 yet?

Chronologically, but not intellectually or emotionally.

23 Gus  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 6:43:29pm

It's funny how even something as benign as Anderson Cooper coming out (officially or otherwise) would get the right-wingers to throw yet another temper tantrum.

24 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 6:44:56pm

re: #23 Gus

It's funny how even something as benign as Anderson Cooper coming out (officially or otherwise) would get the right-wingers to throw yet another temper tantrum.

I almost think right-wingers are looking for an excuse to throw a temper tantrum.

25 Gus  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 6:47:46pm

re: #24 thedopefishlives

I almost think right-wingers are looking for an excuse to throw a temper tantrum.

Probably because their idols are/were always throwing temper tantrums: i.e. Rush Limbaugh; Andrew Bretibart; Ann Coulter; et al.

27 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 6:52:37pm

re: #26 Ojoe

The limpid sunlight of a late afternoon in summer falls across the San Gabriel Mountains.

Towercam

Found work tecting arcs yet?

28 Ojoe  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 6:54:15pm

re: #27 Decatur Deb

Little jobs are coming thru, enough to fill in the gap days in the truck driving!

So it's OK, thought I would not say the private sector is doing fine just yet.

29 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 6:55:36pm

re: #28 Ojoe

Little jobs are coming thru, enough to fill in the gap days in the truck driving!

So it's OK, thought I would not say the private sector is doing fine just yet.

Work up the plans for a McHovel. Oughtta be a hot market.

30 b_sharp  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 6:56:19pm

re: #24 thedopefishlives

I almost think right-wingers are looking for an excuse to throw a temper tantrum.

No almost about it.

They thrive on hate & anger.

31 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 6:57:16pm

re: #20 jaunte

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Awesome post.

32 jaunte  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 6:58:27pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

"When they’re born it ruins everything."

33 Kragar  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 7:01:35pm

re: #20 jaunte

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But I’m always hesitant to even bring up this abortion shit because I know what will happen. Some right winger will seize it as an opportunity to show that they are really the true friends of cripples. If they were in charge, we wouldn’t have to worry about being aborted. They would tenaciously defend our right to be born.

They’re right about that. No doubt they would guard every crippled fetus like a junkyard dog, right up until the second they are born. After that, you’re on your own, Maxwell. That’s the American way.

35 Gus  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 7:07:15pm

re: #34 jaunte

GOP Governors May Turn Down $258 Billion In Obamacare Funds, Leave 9.2 Million Americans Uninsured

4 of those states have one of the highest lung-cancer rates. See #21 or Stroke Belt. Also see, County-Level "Diabetes Belt" Carves a Swath through U.S. South.

36 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 7:08:18pm

re: #34 jaunte

GOP Governors May Turn Down $258 Billion In Obamacare Funds, Leave 9.2 Million Americans Uninsured

Really hope they don't do that. If they do, the new Obama/Dem campaigners will spend the next election cycle shoving it up their asses. They're actually getting pretty good.

37 jaunte  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 7:12:12pm

re: #36 Decatur Deb

Here in Texas the Republicans are still trying to decide how to react.
After Health Care Ruling, TX Has Big Decisions to Make

[Attorney General] Abbott said he will work with Congress to attempt to have the law repealed, and that the state will explore “all possible avenues” to further litigation against "Obamacare." But he said it is hard to tell what aspects of the law that litigation might target.

38 Mocking Jay  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 7:16:14pm

re: #37 jaunte

Here in Texas the Republicans are still trying to decide how to react.
After Health Care Ruling, TX Has Big Decisions to Make

Shaking their rattles and pooping their pants?

39 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 7:19:00pm

re: #37 jaunte

Here in Texas the Republicans are still trying to decide how to react.
After Health Care Ruling, TX Has Big Decisions to Make

They'll fold, and cover it with a 10 gallon hat full of meadow muffins.

40 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 7:21:19pm

re: #34 jaunte

GOP Governors May Turn Down $258 Billion In Obamacare Funds, Leave 9.2 Million Americans Uninsured

That should do wonders for their economies in the long term. The law should just be administered so that the overall fund level is fluid, at least for the first three years of 100% federal coverage. So that money that would otherwise have gone to non participating states gets redirected to participating states.

"Excuse me, but if you're not going to eat that ..."

41 jaunte  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 7:21:38pm

re: #39 Decatur Deb

I think they will fold; too many of these kinds of stories are coming out now in the local press:

The nation's health law has already improved the lives of millions of Texans. More than 7.5 million Texans, including more than 3 million children, have directly benefited from the law since 2010.

The law also helps protect healthcare for over 3 million Texas children who rely on the cost-effective Medicaid and Children's Health Insurance Program for coverage.
[Link: www.star-telegram.com...]

42 Gus  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 7:24:51pm

Eek!

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44 jaunte  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 7:28:13pm
"I kind of feel like I'm watching that old movie `The Godfather' and the American people looked the Godfather in the face and he said, `I'm going to make you an offer you can't refuse.,"' Perry said. "And that offer is, `you're going to buy my insurance, and if you don't, I'm going to tax you.' That is just unconscionable." [Link: abclocal.go.com...]

Worst

Screenwriter

Ever.

45 b_sharp  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 7:28:23pm

re: #42 Gus

Eek!

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I see nothing.

46 Gus  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 7:29:09pm

re: #45 b_sharp

I see nothing.

Gov. Scott Walker in high school.

47 Kragar  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 7:29:44pm

re: #44 jaunte

Worst

Screenwriter

Ever.

"I'm going to make you an offer I can't understand" - Rick Perry

48 jaunte  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 7:30:23pm

re: #47 Kragar

"Where's Fredo?"

"Ooops."

49 Mocking Jay  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 7:32:01pm

The Chronicles of Mitt: July 2, 2012

The problem is that I am, to use a term Eric F. explained to me, happysad. I am happy because the healthcare plan that I myself proposed, endorsed, implemented, and repeatedly endorsed again has received approval from the highest court in the land, which means it was good. But I am sad because that approval was technically granted to another version of that plan, one endorsed by Democrats, which means it is now bad. Trying to draw the line between the two—which plan is good, and which plan is bad—continues to be quite difficult. It seems reporter units are not entirely satisfied with the simple notion that the bad one is the one my opponent did, because he is my opponent and he is bad. I instructed my staff to explain to them further that my plan was good because I am not my opponent, and since he is bad I must by definition be good, but they reported back with unsatisfactory results. While we sort this out, we have largely decided to not say things anymore, on any subject.

50 Kragar  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 7:34:27pm

"Its a Texan message. It means Luca Brasi slept with a fish."

52 Mocking Jay  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 7:39:07pm

"Leave the gun...?"

53 Amory Blaine  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 7:42:23pm

Maybe teabaggers shouldn't have been calling themselves teabaggers. Then the association might have never happened. Fucking morons.

54 Gus  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 7:43:47pm

re: #51 Interesting Times

LOL Rick Santorum.

And Eric Cantor had the exact same expression of smug, supercilious, douche-iness.

Contrary to rightwing hatespew, Nancy Pelosi was hot.

That was quite the helmet Cantor was sporting.

55 Mocking Jay  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 7:43:49pm

re: #53 Amory Blaine

Maybe teabaggers shouldn't have been calling themselves teabaggers. Then the association might have never happened. Fucking morons morans.

fixt

56 jaunte  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 7:45:03pm

re: #54 Gus

Look at Cantor's quotable quote.

57 Interesting Times  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 7:45:32pm

re: #54 Gus

That was quite the helmet Cantor was sporting.

Heh. On another note, Netanyahu looked like he could kick your ass in a staring contest.

58 Mocking Jay  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 7:45:59pm

re: #51 Interesting Times

I think Santorum's pants could be considered contraception.

59 Gus  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 7:46:30pm

re: #56 jaunte

Look at Cantor's quotable quote.

Yeah. It's pretty lame. Was that in the 80s? Kind of fitting for the time: "I want what I want when I want it." Wah!!!!

60 Gus  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 7:47:22pm

re: #58 It's a cookbook!

I think Santorum's pants could be considered contraception.

Those pants would have made a great 70s sofa.

61 Interesting Times  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 7:47:29pm

re: #59 Gus

Yeah. It's pretty lame. Was that in the 80s? Kind of fitting for the time as the official 2012 GOP campaign slogan: "I want what I want when I want it." Wah!!!

Fixed.

62 Amory Blaine  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 7:47:32pm

re: #34 jaunte

GOP Governors May Turn Down $258 Billion In Obamacare Funds, Leave 9.2 Million Americans Uninsured

I can't fucking believe Wisconsin is now a blood red state. Beam me up.

63 Kragar  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 7:48:03pm

My yearbook quote was "Shut up, he explained."

64 Kragar  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 7:48:40pm

re: #58 It's a cookbook!

I think Santorum's pants could be considered contraception.

You just wait till the sleeves come off the sweater...

65 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 7:49:00pm

Is there a word for when someone comes out of the closet, but nobody knew they were in the closet to begin with? I mean in the sense that everyone already knew they were gay.

I'm thinking Ricky Martin here.

66 Atlas Fails  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 7:49:02pm

Bozell is serial killer creepy. Fortunately, he's so hilariously stupid that he gives Dim Hoft a run for his money. I've written a few pages mocking his breathtaking idiocy for anyone who enjoys laughing at imbeciles. Here's the latest.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

67 Mocking Jay  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 7:50:23pm

re: #65 Mostly sane, most of the time.

Is there a word for when someone comes out of the closet, but nobody knew they were in the closet to begin with? I mean in the sense that everyone already knew they were gay.

I'm thinking Ricky Martin here.

I think we call that an "Elton John."

68 Kragar  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 7:53:43pm

re: #67 It's a cookbook!

I think we call that an "Elton John."

A Liberace.

69 RadicalModerate  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 7:54:47pm

re: #22 b_sharp

Chronologically, but not intellectually or emotionally.

I was gonna say that unlike Ben Shapiro, Jonathan Krohn actually grew up.

70 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 7:54:57pm

re: #68 Kragar

A Liberace.

An Ellen.

I have to admit, I have wondered whether it is a relief to announce "I'm Gay!" only to have everyone say, "Um, okay," and get on with things, or a disappointment.

71 Mocking Jay  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 7:56:12pm

re: #70 Mostly sane, most of the time.

An Ellen.

I have to admit, I have wondered whether it is a relief to announce "I'm Gay!" only to have everyone say, "Um, okay," and get on with things, or a disappointment.

We will never know...

72 Interesting Times  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 7:56:41pm

re: #70 Mostly sane, most of the time.

I have to admit, I have wondered whether it is a relief to announce "I'm Gay!" only to have everyone say, "Um, okay," and get on with things, or a disappointment.

73 Only The Lurker Knows  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 7:59:04pm

Night Lizards.

74 Gus  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 7:59:13pm
75 RadicalModerate  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 8:00:57pm

re: #43 Gus

69 Politicians As They Were In High School

70s hair is EVERYWHERE!

76 Mocking Jay  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 8:03:34pm

Hill was cute.
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77 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 8:03:47pm

Patio Frog has made another appearance. Third this year.

How has your evening been?

78 Gus  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 8:04:36pm

re: #75 RadicalModerate

70s hair is EVERYWHERE!

Lots of "upholstery" too.

79 Kragar  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 8:07:55pm

Joe Walsh looked like a douche even in HS

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80 CarleeCork  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 8:09:09pm

re: #37 jaunte

Here in Texas the Republicans are still trying to decide how to react.
After Health Care Ruling, TX Has Big Decisions to Make

But save the fetuses!!!

81 Interesting Times  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 8:09:39pm

re: #79 Kragar

Joe Walsh looked like a douche even in HS

Image: enhanced-buzz-21981-1340985921-5.jpg

Voted "Most Likely to Refuse to Pay Child Support"

82 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 8:10:28pm

re: #78 Gus

Lots of "upholstery" too.

It would only be kind to allow her a restraining order against publishing that photo again.

Everyone who lived through the 70's has one of these photos.

You know: If you remember the 60's you didn't really experience it? Well, if you have no embarrassing polyester plaid photos from the 70's, you didn't really experience it.

83 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 8:12:25pm

re: #82 Mostly sane, most of the time.

It would only be kind to allow her a restraining order against publishing that photo again.

Everyone who lived through the 70's has one of these photos.

You know: If you remember the 60's you didn't really experience it? Well, if you have no embarrassing polyester plaid photos from the 70's, you didn't really experience it.

The 70's were the decade of plastic (nearly PVC-type) clothing.

84 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 8:13:43pm

re: #83 ggt

The 70's were the decade of plastic (nearly PVC-type) clothing.

Polyester plaid gauchos.

The decade that our eyeballs had apparently stopped working.

85 Kragar  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 8:14:51pm

re: #84 Mostly sane, most of the time.

Polyester plaid gauchos.

The decade that our eyeballs had apparently stopped working.

Cocaine is a hell of a drug

86 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 8:14:59pm

re: #84 Mostly sane, most of the time.

Polyester plaid gauchos.

The decade that our eyeballs had apparently stopped working.

Leisure suits!

87 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 8:15:30pm

re: #85 Kragar

Cocaine is a hell of a drug

I was 6. I don't need drugs as an excuse.

88 Kragar  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 8:16:35pm

re: #87 Mostly sane, most of the time.

I was 6. I don't need drugs as an excuse.

The designers who made the clothes did.

89 Gus  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 8:17:17pm

re: #82 Mostly sane, most of the time.

It would only be kind to allow her a restraining order against publishing that photo again.

Everyone who lived through the 70's has one of these photos.

You know: If you remember the 60's you didn't really experience it? Well, if you have no embarrassing polyester plaid photos from the 70's, you didn't really experience it.

Yeah. We didn't think anything of it at the time. We thought it looked cool. I had several flannel looking pants. I settled into flannel shirts, jeans, and work or hiking boots. Blame Marshall Tucker, New Riders, Allman Bros, and even John Denver for that phase. ;) Oh. And you always had to roll up the sleeves on the flannel shirts.

90 Gus  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 8:18:09pm

re: #84 Mostly sane, most of the time.

Polyester plaid gauchos.

The decade that our eyeballs had apparently stopped working.

Do not insult my people!

//

91 Gus  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 8:18:47pm

80s didn't help.

//

92 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 8:20:06pm

re: #89 Gus

Yeah. We didn't think anything of it at the time. We thought it looked cool. I had several flannel looking pants. I settled into flannel shirts, jeans, and work or hiking boots. Blame Marshall Tucker, New Riders, Allman Bros, and even John Denver for that phase. ;) Oh. And you always had to roll up the sleeves on the flannel shirts.

It was a real big thing that you could wash and dry the clothing in the machine and then wear it. No ironing, no dry cleaners.

Wrinkles were a big deal back then.

93 Gus  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 8:20:31pm

Is that a real poncho or is that a Sears poncho?

94 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 8:21:12pm

re: #82 Mostly sane, most of the time.

It would only be kind to allow her a restraining order against publishing that photo again.

Everyone who lived through the 70's has one of these photos.

You know: If you remember the 60's you didn't really experience it? Well, if you have no embarrassing polyester plaid photos from the 70's, you didn't really experience it.

So that's how I explain the brown corduroy 3 piece suit I had my senior picture taken in? Bad enough that fugly can't begin to cover it...

95 Gus  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 8:21:17pm

re: #92 ggt

It was a real big thing that you could wash and dry the clothing in the machine and then wear it. No ironing, no dry cleaners.

Wrinkles were a big deal back then.

Yep. I hated ironing. Then came the 80s.

96 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 8:24:09pm

Hi All.
I met a genuine "nirther" today.
OMG.

97 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 8:24:54pm

re: #96 Dancing along the light of day

Hi All.
I met a genuine "nirther" today.
OMG.

You broke your cherry!

98 Eventual Carrion  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 8:24:56pm

re: #75 RadicalModerate

70s hair is EVERYWHERE!

My high school pictures from the 70's were great for my weird way of meeting the catholic school dress code. I had one tie I liked to wear that I called my "Horse Ass" tie. It was a line of polo horses and riders crossing diagonally across the tie, all facing backwards. Just polo guy backs (with those cool white helmet/hats on) and horses asses across the tie. I liked that one. Native American print sleeveless V-neck sweater so I wouldn't have to wear a tie. Ties so wide you could use them as a tablecloth (with bell bottoms to match, corduroy no less)

99 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 8:25:11pm

re: #96 Dancing along the light of day

Hi All.
I met a genuine "nirther" today.
OMG.

Did you get the number of his ear tag?

100 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 8:27:21pm

re: #2 Gus

And we're off!

Edit: Or maybe not. Never mind. I haz confusion from teh heat.

Me too. It's brutal here in Chicagoland, and the heat left me very tired today.

101 Gus  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 8:27:44pm

Hot Wheels!

...and loud pants.

102 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 8:28:27pm

My Mom still won't buy anything made of linen.

103 Gus  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 8:28:48pm

re: #100 Dark_Falcon

Me too. It's brutal here in Chicagoland, and the heat left me very tired today.

It's awesome right now. 77°F with a light breeze.

104 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 8:29:03pm

re: #96 Dancing along the light of day

Hi All.
I met a genuine "nirther" today.
OMG.

Let me guess: He was scream at you from the interior branches of the Stupid Tree he'd climbed because you stopped to snack on some of the leaves.

/giraffe humor [waves]

105 Gus  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 8:29:34pm

re: #102 ggt

My Mom still won't buy anything made of linen.

Rayon is actually a pretty cool fabric. Well, not in the temperature sense.

106 Gus  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 8:30:54pm

Chicago: 89°F

Yuck. Too hot for the evening. That's also with 60 percent humidity.

107 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 8:31:59pm

re: #106 Gus

Chicago: 89°F

Yuck. Too hot for the evening. That's also with 60 percent humidity.

Lower Alabama--81 degrees.

108 Gus  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 8:33:33pm

re: #107 Decatur Deb

Lower Alabama--81 degrees.

Don't worry. It's dry wet heat.

//

109 Kragar  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 8:35:31pm

re: #75 RadicalModerate

70s hair is EVERYWHERE!

Blago's hair is exactly the same.

EXACTLY.

THE.

SAME.

110 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 8:37:06pm

re: #107 Decatur Deb

Lower Alabama--81 degrees.

Chilly 60 here, I have a sweater on!

111 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 8:37:52pm

re: #109 Kragar

Blago's hair is exactly the same.

EXACTLY.

THE.

SAME.

Actually, its gone grey since he's been in prison. But it does turn out that that helmet of hair really is his hair. Unlike Donald Trump, Blago did not have a hairpiece.

112 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 8:38:23pm

re: #110 Dancing along the light of day

Chilly 60 here, I have a sweater on!

I hate you, Floral.

/entirely kidding

113 Kragar  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 8:38:58pm

re: #110 Dancing along the light of day

Chilly 60 here, I have a sweater on!

69 in Sunny San Diego

114 Kragar  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 8:39:14pm

That totally sounds like a porn title

115 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 8:39:31pm

re: #112 Dark_Falcon

Well, it's always cooler up here in the trees!
*waves*

116 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 8:40:11pm

re: #113 Kragar

Foggy farther up the coast.

117 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 8:42:17pm

re: #109 Kragar

Blago's hair is exactly the same.

EXACTLY.

THE.

SAME.

The alien doesn't change with age the way god-fearing humans do.

/

118 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 8:42:21pm

re: #102 ggt

My Mom still won't buy anything made of linen.

She needs to educated. You're SUPPOSED to look like a bag lady, when you wear linen. It's all about the comfort!

119 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 8:43:14pm

re: #118 Dancing along the light of day

She needs to educated. You're SUPPOSED to look like a bag lady, when you wear linen. It's all about the comfort!

Ain't happening, she and her sisters threw away their irons and will not ever use them again. Now they all wear old lady warm-up suits and gym shoes.

120 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 8:44:58pm

re: #119 ggt

Why iron linen? It just wrinkles when you put it on!

121 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 8:45:47pm

re: #120 Dancing along the light of day

Why iron linen? It just wrinkles when you put it on!

STARCH!!! hard edges, a must.

or you don't wear it at all

122 Gus  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 8:46:05pm

Nothing beats a summer wool.

//

123 Gus  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 8:47:19pm

Poplin?

124 Gus  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 8:47:48pm

Stone wash!

[Groans.]

125 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 8:52:00pm

re: #116 Dancing along the light of day

Foggy farther up the coast.

Of course it is. That's that fog of Left Coast Socialism, Floral, the Fog of Left Coast Socialism.

///

126 Kragar  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 8:52:03pm

Twitter Releases First-Ever Transparency Report

Twitter late Monday afternoon released its first-ever ”transparency report,” a collection of statistics highlighting the times in the past six months that Twitter has been asked by governments and law enforcement agencies around the world to hand over user information or take down content.

The U.S. leads the world in requests for Twitter user info, with 679 requests pertaining to 948 accounts, of which Twitter complied with 75 percent, according to the report.

Image: Twitter-info-requests.jpg

127 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 8:52:08pm

God loved us, so he gave us denim and t-shirts.

128 Kragar  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 8:54:47pm

re: #127 Mostly sane, most of the time.

God loved us, so he gave us denim and t-shirts.

And the Joe Namath netted slingshot brief...

129 Gus  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 8:57:02pm

re: #128 Kragar

And the Joe Namath netted slingshot brief...

What happens if you sleep in those?

130 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 8:58:21pm

re: #121 ggt

If I didn't like you so much, I would have downdinged.
Besides, I'm an old lady, I like my wrinkles! Clothing ones too!

131 RadicalModerate  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 9:00:32pm

Remember that talking point that Republicans are trotting out claiming that the Affordable Care Act (aka"Obamacare") healthcare reforms include "the largest tax increase in the history of the world"?

Well, they're...exaggerating.

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

But then again, "the 10th largest tax increase, behind Bush, Clinton, and Saint Reagan" wouldn't sell to the rabid faithful, now would it?

132 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 9:05:46pm

Michael Kiwanuka : I'm Getting Ready

Youtube Video
133 Gus  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 9:12:33pm

re: #132 Killgore Trout

Michael Kiwanuka : I'm Getting Ready

[Embedded content]

Riot! Can't see it now.

134 Gus  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 9:14:47pm

See what you did? They had a cookie generated link ready for me over at Balloon Juice because of all the shirt and fabric talk.

135 Gus  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 9:20:49pm

Tonight film deal with proper use of the ejection seat in both combat and peacetime conditions. Those of you assigned to SAC and MAC can sit this one out.

136 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 9:24:26pm

Image: 187532771954200211_jPBLJsdy_b.jpg

137 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 9:26:52pm

re: #130 Dancing along the light of day

If I didn't like you so much, I would have downdinged.
Besides, I'm an old lady, I like my wrinkles! Clothing ones too!

That is not my philosophy, it is my 80 yo mother's. I could care less --She and her sisters have some wierd ideas about clothing and appearance. I could never understand it.

One of my aunts is still talking about the day she threw away her girdle. She has no clue that no one knows what she is talking about.

138 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 9:27:24pm

re: #127 Mostly sane, most of the time.

God loved us, so he gave us denim and t-shirts.

G-d loves us so much he gave us Lycra!

139 moderatelyradicalliberal  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 9:28:25pm

That Bozell guy looks like Dr. Zaius from Planet of the Apes.

Image: 3565.jpg

140 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 9:29:40pm

re: #136 ggt

Image: 187532771954200211_jPBLJsdy_b.jpg

Is major truth.

141 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 9:30:06pm

good night, all.

142 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 9:34:10pm

re: #137 ggt

Spanx are the new under garments of choice. She might like them!

143 freetoken  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 9:35:08pm

PZed writes an article for Salon:

Don’t trust the religious


Gnashing of teeth follows.

145 freetoken  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 9:37:01pm

re: #142 Dancing along the light of day

Spanx are the new under garments of choice. She might like them!

Clothing of choice of Kim Kardashian!

146 God of Binders with Women  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 9:37:53pm

These RW a-holes on Twitter with their juvenile comments about Anderson Cooper is reason #16,890 why I left that "Center-right" Titanic of moronic, religious zealotry that has poisoned all possible rational discussion about anything remotely significant. Good riddance you fucking losers.

147 God of Binders with Women  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 9:38:30pm

re: #138 ggt

G-d loves us so much he gave us Lycra!

LOL. Well done.

148 God of Binders with Women  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 9:39:13pm

re: #139 moderatelyradicalliberal

That Bozell guy looks like Dr. Zaius from Planet of the Apes.

Image: 3565.jpg

This is the all-cap LOL I meant.

149 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 9:43:43pm

Just for Floral

150 Gus  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 9:43:46pm

BTW. Mexico has a new president.

Pathetic news coverage on this. It's amazing how American's won't stop complaining about Mexico and pretending to know anything about Mexico and with this we have the USA basically ignoring this piece of news.

151 austin_blue  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 9:44:04pm

Does Brent Bozell's wife lick his balls? No?

Jealous motherfucker, isn't he?

152 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 9:44:55pm

re: #147 How Am I Gonna Get My Sixty Goals??!!

LOL. Well done.

(ggt takes bow)

153 freetoken  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 9:45:36pm

re: #150 Gus

FWIW, San Diego's local newspaper, the Union-Tribune (or, rather, what's left of it after almost withering away in the light of the internet) has as its lead story with top headline the story of the Mexican election.

154 Gus  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 9:46:19pm

re: #153 freetoken

FWIW, San Diego's local newspaper, the Union-Tribune (or, rather, what's left of it after almost withering away in the light of the internet) has as its lead story with top headline the story of the Mexican election.

Well. That's San Diego of course.

155 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 9:47:14pm

re: #145 freetoken

Clothing of choice of Kim Kardashian!

It's kind of scary that you know that. Just sayin.

156 freetoken  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 9:47:53pm

re: #154 Gus

Well. That's San Diego of course.

In English, the official language of wingnuts, it ought to be referred to as "Saint David".

157 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 9:47:56pm

re: #155 Dancing along the light of day

It's kind of scary that you know that. Just sayin.

You know, I agree with you.

158 austin_blue  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 9:48:39pm

re: #150 Gus

BTW. Mexico has a new president.

Pathetic news coverage on this. It's amazing how American's won't stop complaining about Mexico and pretending to anything about Mexico and with this we the USA basically ignoring this piece of news.

Some of us have been watching. The PRI gets a President, but neither of the bicameral House or Senate. Which means they have all get to get together and govern, if they can. Mexico has some serious structural issues, not the least of which (besides drug trafficking) is that their oilfields are steadily decreasing in production.

Or, as Scooby would say, "Ruh roh!"

159 Gus  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 9:48:59pm

Here's the scoop of who won...

Enrique Peña Nieto

Enrique Peña Nieto (pronounced: [enˈɾike ˈpeɲa ˈnjeto]; born July 20, 1966) is the presumed President-elect of the Mexico,[1] and a member of the Institutional Revolutionary Party (Partido Revolucionario Institucional, PRI). He was governor of the State of Mexico from 2005 to 2011. On September 19, 2011, he announced his candidacy for president in the 2012 Mexican presidential election to succeed Felipe Calderón,[2] and formally registered his candidacy on November 27, 2011.[3] On July 2 he declared himself the winner of the presidential election with between 37 and 38% of the votes.[4] President Felipe Calderon congratulated him for the virtual victory.[5]

Institutional Revolutionary Party

The Institutional Revolutionary Party (Spanish: Partido Revolucionario Institucional, PRI) is a Mexican political party that held power in the country—under a succession of names—for 71 years. The PRI is a member of the Socialist International, as is the rival Party of the Democratic Revolution (PRD), making Mexico one of the few nations with two major, competing parties part of the same international grouping. However, PRI is not considered a socialist party in the traditional sense, its modern policies being characterized as centrist. Its membership in the International dates from the Mexican Revolution and the founding of the party by Plutarco Elías Calles, when the party had a clearer leftist orientation.

160 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 9:50:09pm

Today's required kitteh!

161 freetoken  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 9:51:28pm

re: #155 Dancing along the light of day

It's kind of scary that you know that.

There are important things in life, and then there are the really important things in life.

Google search "Kim Kardashian" gives "About 206,000 results" for the past 24 hours.

Similar search for "Mexico" "election" gives About 213,000 results .

Given the margin of error, that's essentially equivalent.

162 austin_blue  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 9:52:39pm

re: #157 ggt

You know, I agree with you.

Spanx? It's now a Spanx thread!?!?!?

We're damned.

163 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 9:52:43pm

re: #161 freetoken

There are important things in life, and then there are the really important things in life.

Google search "Kim Kardashian" gives "About 206,000 results" for the past 24 hours.

Similar search for "Mexico" "election" gives About 213,000 results .

Given the margin of error, that's essentially equivalent.

So, it's just a matter of what market of social capital one is trading?

164 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 9:52:46pm

re: #157 ggt

This was posted to me a while ago and saved in my favorites...
"Warning to everyone: This graphic is crude and silly. Don't click if you're a take offense person.

But when I saw it, it did make me think of you, Floral.

[Link: ohiok.com...] ooment/meredo/funny/spank-giraffe.gif

165 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 9:53:30pm

re: #164 Dancing along the light of day

This was posted to me a while ago and saved in my favorites...
"Warning to everyone: This graphic is crude and silly. Don't click if you're a take offense person.

But when I saw it, it did make me think of you, Floral.

[Link: ohiok.com...] ooment/meredo/funny/spank-giraffe.gif

linky no worky

166 Kragar  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 9:53:32pm

re: #156 freetoken

In English, the official language of wingnuts, it ought to be referred to as "Saint David".

Everyone knows San Diego comes from German and means "whale's vagina".

167 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 9:53:57pm

re: #161 freetoken

Those numbers are F'ing scary, at least to me, but then, I don't watch, TeeVee.

168 Kragar  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 9:54:28pm

re: #161 freetoken

There are important things in life, and then there are the really important things in life.

Google search "Kim Kardashian" gives "About 206,000 results" for the past 24 hours.

Similar search for "Mexico" "election" gives About 213,000 results .

Given the margin of error, that's essentially equivalent.

She's taken porn stars main stream.

169 Gus  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 9:54:35pm

re: #158 austin_blue

Some of us have been watching. The PRI gets a President, but neither of the bicameral House or Senate. Which means they have all get to get together and govern, if they can. Mexico has some serious structural issues, not the least of which (besides drug trafficking) is that their oilfields are steadily decreasing in production.

Or, as Scooby would say, "Ruh roh!"

Personally I think we should legalize all drugs and let Darwin take over. Maybe I'm wrong. But transfer the whole process to legitimate businesses. I would bet that less people would die in the end.

170 austin_blue  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 9:55:01pm

re: #166 Kragar

Everyone knows San Diego comes from German and means "whale's vagina".

Really? I thought it was Throat Warbler Mangrove...

171 freetoken  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 9:55:55pm

re: #163 ggt

So, it's just a matter of what market of social capital one is trading?

Playing armchair anthropologist... I'd say yes, that's what life is all about.

172 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 9:56:19pm

re: #165 ggt

Here's the original post linky.
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

(Charle's linkys always work!)

173 austin_blue  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 9:57:19pm

re: #169 Gus

Personally I think we should legalize all drugs and let Darwin take over. Maybe I'm wrong. But transfer the whole process to legitimate businesses. I would bet that less people would die in the end.

Who the fuck are you? Ron Paul in disguise?

(Yes, yes, I know, blind pig, acorn, &c.)

174 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 9:57:48pm

re: #171 freetoken

Playing armchair anthropologist... I'd say yes, that's what life is all about.

I look forward to the day when we all trade in wuffie.

175 Kragar  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 9:58:07pm

re: #170 austin_blue

Really? I thought it was Throat Warbler Mangrove...

Youtube Video
176 Gus  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 9:58:11pm

re: #173 austin_blue

Who the fuck are you? Ron Paul in disguise?

(Yes, yes, I know, blind pig, acorn, &c.)

Hey. I still think being objective can be a good quality. ;)

177 austin_blue  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 9:58:45pm

re: #176 Gus

Hey. I still think being objective can be a good quality. ;)

Ding ding ding!

178 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 9:58:51pm

re: #176 Gus

Hey. I still think being objective can be a good quality. ;)

If the prescription drugs worked as well as the illegal ones . . . . .

179 freetoken  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 10:00:34pm

re: #173 austin_blue

Ron Paul Disguise tools:

[Link: hoh.rollcall.com...]

180 JamesWI  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 10:01:45pm

How brave of Ben Shapiro! He really got over the death of America like a champ. One weekend and he's already back to making gay jokes, like America never died at all!

181 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 10:02:38pm

re: #180 JamesWI

How brave of Ben Shapiro! He really got over the death of America like a champ. One weekend and he's already back to making gay jokes, like America never died at all!

It's Zombie America!!!!

LOL

182 Gus  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 10:04:42pm

re: #180 JamesWI

How brave of Ben Shapiro! He really got over the death of America like a champ. One weekend and he's already back to making gay jokes, like America never died at all!

LOL. Good point.

SCOTUS gives ACA a pass and Ben Shapiro is all ready for the REVOLUTION! and then a couple of days later? He's back on "the gays." A true Republican and patriot.

183 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 10:05:56pm

I'm off!

Have a great evening all!

184 Gus  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 10:06:08pm

Why are right wing dudes always thinking about gay dudes?

185 ozbloke  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 10:06:58pm

re: #184 Gus

Why are right wing dudes always thinking about gay dudes?

An unexplainable urge or desire?

186 Gus  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 10:06:59pm

Show me a right wing nut and I'll show you some guy that always thinking about gay sex. Why is that?

187 austin_blue  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 10:07:28pm

re: #180 JamesWI

How brave of Ben Shapiro! He really got over the death of America like a champ. One weekend and he's already back to making gay jokes, like America never died at all!

Well, the news cycle being what it is, and Ben being such an outrageously hilarious web commentator..

188 Gus  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 10:07:57pm

re: #185 ozbloke

An unexplainable urge or desire?

Perhaps a kind of sexual empathy? Maybe right wing guys always see themselves as having sex?

189 freetoken  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 10:09:13pm

re: #186 Gus

Show me a right wing nut and I'll show you some guy that always thinking about gay sex. Why is that?

It goes with their... ahem... gun fetish.

190 Gus  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 10:09:41pm

Or because a part of being conservative means holding onto a rather repressed sense of self? That is itself the definition of conservative. To hold back or repress modernistic urges.

191 austin_blue  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 10:09:50pm

re: #184 Gus

Why are right wing dudes always thinking about gay dudes?

The hidden tension of desire, glowing heatedly within their very loins.

192 Gus  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 10:11:14pm

re: #191 austin_blue

The hidden tension of desire, glowing heatedly within their very loins.

That almost sounds kinky. They love the thing about loins as in "grid your loins" which was made popular by their idol, Michelle Malkin.

193 austin_blue  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 10:12:07pm

re: #189 freetoken

It goes with their... ahem... gun fetish.

Hey! Guns aren't necessarily bad things. I've got long guns, several. But I'd never own a handgun. Nasty little people killers.

194 Gus  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 10:13:43pm

re: #189 freetoken

It goes with their... ahem... gun fetish.

Goes along with their Sarah Palin fetish.

195 austin_blue  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 10:13:53pm

re: #192 Gus

That almost sounds kinky. They love the thing about loins as in "grid your loins" which was made popular by their idol, Michelle Malkin.

Thanks! Winning!

196 Ming  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 10:16:20pm

I just came across a fascinating article in Technology Review about how the Affordable Care Act may really help small, innovative businesses: [Link: www.technologyreview.com...]

197 Gus  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 10:39:30pm

Rapture

Youtube Video
198 freetoken  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 10:52:15pm

1949, the first time this song was made a hit and reportedly stayed on the top charts for 19 weeks:

MP3 Audio
199 austin_blue  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 10:55:05pm

Night all! Work tomorrow and then fireworks on Wednesday that, hopefully, won't burn down the town. Oh, and my buddy Peter Bay conducting the 1812 Overture as a lead up to the really big shew. (sic)

200 AK-47%  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 10:59:37pm

re: #9 dragonfire1981

Wasn't there some study not so long ago that said being fiercely anti-gay can be a strong indicator that you may be in the closet? (Not that a lot of people didn't already believe this anyway...)

Self-hatred is the most intense and complex form of hatred. There is even a compelling case presented by a retired Anglican Bishop Shelby Spong in his book "Rescuing the Bible from Fundamentalism", that St. Paul was a repressed, self-loathing gay.

201 SteveMcG  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 11:19:04pm

I was listening to the interview with Jonathan Krohn on Lawrence O'Donnell's show. I felt bed because the kid's still getting used. Actually, I think this kid just got sick of meeting right wing girls.

202 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 11:24:05pm

Good morning Lizards!

Day 2 of a short stint of graveyard shift here in Philly. Supporting a project go-live over in Germany. (I do the German hours, but don't get any of the beer... :( )

A nice balmy 80F outside at 2am.

Plus side is that I have the place to myself. No line for coffee, no noise other than whatever I make, and I can wear my iPod while working. (Dire Straits for the win!)

203 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 11:25:33pm

Hmm. Is Google's main site down?

204 SteveMcG  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 11:26:12pm

re: #202 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Hey, I'm out on the Delaware River!

205 SteveMcG  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 11:27:28pm

re: #203 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Hmm. Is Google's main site down?

Still works. Santorum's slipped a bit, I just noticed.

206 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 11:29:17pm

re: #205 SteveMcG

Still works. Santorum's slipped a bit, I just noticed.

Odd. Browser here at work won't access it. Can get to other sites though.

207 AK-47%  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 11:29:18pm

re: #205 SteveMcG

Still works. Santorum's slipped a bit, I just noticed.

Does not matter, his name is still synonmous with the neologism now.

208 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 11:30:14pm

re: #204 SteveMcG

Hey, I'm out on the Delaware River!

Floating about, or attempting to get from one side or the other?

209 SteveMcG  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 11:35:04pm

re: #208 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

On a pier just north of Penn's Landing. The marina outside my window is in dire need of dredging. The riverbed's exposed at low tide here.

210 SteveMcG  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 11:37:43pm

re: #202 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Making Movies playing on my Itunes, BTW.

211 freetoken  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 11:39:35pm

re: #203 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Hmm. Is Google's main site down?

I've been having trouble with Google automatic searching from Chrome's url input line, but I can explicitly open google.com and it works.

212 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 11:41:12pm

re: #211 freetoken

I've been having trouble with Google automatic searching from Chrome's url input line, but I can explicitly open google.com and it works.

I'm trying to explicitly open [Link: www.google.com...] and getting a "cannot display the web page" error.

213 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 11:42:46pm

re: #210 SteveMcG

Making Movies playing on my Itunes, BTW.

I have 2-3 Dire Straits albums loaded into mine, Making Movies among them. Currently playing an assembled mix of about 80 songs set to "shuffle". So my listening has been jumping around; Dire Straits, Tom Petty, Red Rider, Iron Maiden among others.

214 Mattand  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 11:46:56pm

re: #202 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Good morning Lizards!

Day 2 of a short stint of graveyard shift here in Philly. Supporting a project go-live over in Germany. (I do the German hours, but don't get any of the beer... :( )

A nice balmy 80F outside at 2am.

Plus side is that I have the place to myself. No line for coffee, no noise other than whatever I make, and I can wear my iPod while working. (Dire Straits for the win!)

Just wrapping up across the Delaware. Didn't think it was that humid today, but I haven't been outside since 6PM.

Favorite Dire Straits song: Telegraph Road. Although Espresso Love is a close second.

215 SteveMcG  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 11:47:40pm

re: #202 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Viel Glück mit Ihrem Projekt Deutsch. Doesn't look right. That was from Google translate. I used to speak ausgezeichnetes Deutsch. You'll have to settle for good luck with your German project.

216 Kragar  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 11:47:59pm

Stupid FedEx needs to get my package to me already.

217 freetoken  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 11:50:53pm

re: #212 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

That link works for me.

But, there seems to be lots of inconsistencies lately in Google caching - not of webpages in their search engine, but of finding some urls.

If you are using a Google name server (which was pushed by them a while back as better than many name servers) you might try your ISP's default name server, or another one.

218 SteveMcG  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 11:52:29pm

re: #213 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Love the shuffle. One minute, Frijid Pink, the next Karen Carpenter, then Deep Purple, then Carly Simon. It's good to be the boss, I get to have my Itunes played over the PA. I get requests for "work force blocks" every so often.

219 SteveMcG  Mon, Jul 2, 2012 11:54:58pm

re: #218 SteveMcG

And then every so often I have to scramble back to the office because I left something NSFW. (THink Frank Zappa at the Fillmore) "What kind of girl..."

220 freetoken  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 12:06:38am

The the time machine is still stuck in a bimodal pattern (oscillating between the 1960's and the 1940's), here's one of my favorites from the former decade and from one of the more interesting Bond films:


MP3 Audio
221 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 12:39:17am

Oh lord, the Mayans were right!

[Link: espn.go.com...]

;)

222 freetoken  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 12:44:19am

re: #221 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

I've not kept up with baseball for many, many years. I do find it curious that the NL Central has so many teams, and that the NL has more teams than the AL.

All is not right with the universe.

223 freetoken  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 12:47:36am

Last couple of months I've written a bit here about the "Did Jesus Exist" arguments - and now, new at Youtube, one of the actors in these arguments has his presentation at the Free Thoughts Festival just put up:

Richard Carrier: The Historicity of Jesus

Youtube Video

It's worth watching to get an overview from one of current promoters of the mythicist view. Though I think Carrier tends to under emphasize some important historical matters, at least he is taking an introspective approach to this issue.

224 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 12:52:07am

re: #222 freetoken

I've not kept up with baseball for many, many years. I do find it curious that the NL Central has so many teams, and that the NL has more teams than the AL.

All is not right with the universe.

I pretty much quit following baseball a few player strikes back. Some interest while Philadelphia broke their championship drought a few years back. And follow the Pirates a bit due to genetics and also to a periodic check to see whether they have a chance to break their losing season string.*

* - Said string heavily influenced by how badly broken baseball's payroll structure is. Pirate ownership is happy to run the team as a sort of AAAA development for young players since they still make a profit and get a subsidy as well out of the payroll "tax" the big spender teams pay. Would be interesting to check if the Yankee local TV contract is still worth more than the entire Pittsburgh payroll like it used to be.

225 AK-47%  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 12:53:06am

A Testament is a statement of faith. The Evangelists are explaining why they believe Jesus is the Son of God and the Savior. They are free to selectively include (or exclude) any arguments that support that point of view.

That is not the same as a biography or a historical treatise. The historical Jesus would be another figure entirely.

226 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 1:07:14am

Odd. The MP3 won't play here (though they normally do). The ads on the LGF page are all errored out (will not display - looks like some sort of proxy server error.)

I wonder if someone in IT is playing with the site filtering sortware or proxy server settings.

227 freetoken  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 1:13:34am

re: #225 Expand Your Ground

Reality is, as usual, much more complicated than that.

For example, you use the term "The Evangelists", and I assume you are using that as a synonym for "The Gospels" writers. However, it is not clear how many writers were involved in the 4 gospels that were canonized, to say nothing of the numerous gospels that were not canonized.

And, even in the western orthodox canon, the 4 gospels present different claims. For example, you mentioned "Son of God", but not all of the 4 gospels aim at this. John for example emphasizes miracle working to prove Divinity, but Mark is a story whose structure looks more like a dramatic presentation (e.g., a play), with ignorant protagonists (the Twelve) and antagonists (the authorities) who are persecuting an innocent prophet.

And, most of the NT canon is not composed of the 4 gospels but of the epistlary, the authors of whom are mostly unknown except for the 5 which seem to come from the middle of the first century from one Jewish author we call (after the common use) "Paul", and these letters are about interpretations/applications of Jewish writings, laws, and customs in light of the Hellenized world.

The one thing I liked about that Carrier video is that he does stress how Christianity is a syncretization of the common beliefs throughout that region in that time.

228 freetoken  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 1:14:51am

re: #227 freetoken

pimf "Epistolary"

229 researchok  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 1:15:00am

Morning, all

230 researchok  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 1:20:00am

re: #220 freetoken

Time machine is right!

Way better than the in your face Bond music today.

231 AK-47%  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 1:21:16am

re: #227 freetoken

My point here was the literary genre of a "testament". A testament is a statement of faith, not a biography or a history. It need not be objective or comprehensive, it only relates to the statement of faith.

A letter of recommendation is a testament, it a statement of why you think a particular person is fit for a certain job. It does not have to go into details about what they did in Junior High school...

And the matter of which gospels became cannonized and why is a historical issue in itself. I first became aware of this whole discussion as a teenager when I was exposed simultaneously to a lot of born again Christians, and to a very good history teacher who put emphasis on investigating and evaluating original sources.

The two produced a conflict in my faith in which the Biblical Jesus lost out to the Historical Jesus.

232 freetoken  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 2:05:49am
MP3 Audio
233 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 2:58:24am
Youtube Video

XD
234 freetoken  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 3:46:55am
MP3 Audio
235 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 4:10:53am

re: #205 SteveMcG

Still works. Santorum's slipped a bit, I just noticed.

That sounds kinda nasty just in itself.

236 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 4:21:20am

A Higgs-Boson walks into a church. A priest immediately bars the way and declares, "we don't allow your kind in here." The Higgs-Boson then asks, "but without me, how can you have mass?"

237 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 4:29:26am

re: #236 Varek Raith

A Higgs-Boson walks into a church. A priest immediately bars the way and declares, "we don't allow your kind in here." The Higgs-Boson then asks, "but without me, how can you have mass?"

Mixing religion and science, isn't that against some rule somewhere? And calling it 'the god particle' really got/has the fundies foaming. Maybe if we put a beard on the particle they would settle down.

238 AK-47%  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 4:41:27am

"We don't serve your kind here!" says the bartender.

Two tachyons walk into a bar.

239 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 4:46:02am

Isn't it better to leave the quantum physics jokes untold rather than collapse the waveform and see whether we laugh or not via the observation?

240 Shropshire_Slasher  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 4:48:28am

'Cat ladies' more likely to commit suicide, scientists claim
[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]
Great, I will never get my wife to scoop the litter.

241 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 4:59:42am

Morning Lizardim.

242 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 5:00:40am

Need more coffee.
(A danish would be nice too, but I'm too lazy to take a break and go outside to get one.)

243 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 5:10:19am

Saved. Found my box of instant oatmeal under some papers in a desk drawer. Om Nom NOM. (Better than nothing!)

Back to reading conflicting requests from managers about security access for some contractors.

244 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 5:40:33am

My 6-year-old granddaughter, an only girl with 4 brothers, decided she wanted a sister so she dressed her 2-year-old brother in her old clothes--INCLUDING HER UNDERWEAR--snapped a bow in his hair, and changed his name to "Mushkie."

My daughter thought it was totally hilarious and posted a video on FB.

245 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 6:00:28am

re: #192 Gus

That almost sounds kinky. They love the thing about loins as in "grid your loins" which was made popular by their idol, Michelle Malkin.

Well, speaking as a member of the kink community, and in light of their repeated requests for a 'Great Leader', I'm fairly certain their sexuality is quite kinky.

Except when it's obvious they're getting their rocks off fantasizing about an 'armed revolution', which means killing people they think are less than they are. That's just sick.

246 AK-47%  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 6:07:09am

re: #245 Romantic Heretic

Except when it's obvious they're getting their rocks off fantasizing about an 'armed revolution', which means killing people they think are less than they are. That's just sick.

An uprising against a government that was elected freely and fairly, but not not to their liking.

Do not forget, that is the central image of the Tea Party: armed rebellion against a tyrannical usurper.

And now they are calling for armed resistance to a law that was passed by Congress, signed by the President and approved by the Supreme Court.

Why do they hate the American system of government?

247 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 6:29:12am

re: #246 Expand Your Ground

[snip]

Why do they hate the American system of government?

Because it was set up as a secular government. No religion gets the upper hand. And that just burns their asses like a 3 foot flame.

248 AK-47%  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 6:34:31am

re: #247 RayFerd

Because it was set up as a secular government. No religion gets the upper hand. And that just burns their asses like a 3 foot flame.

It sort of worked for them when (Protestant) Christianity was the de facto state religion, but it all started to come unwravelled at the start of the 20th century, and really went to hell in a handbasket in the second half when Papists, Jews and athiests all started wanting to have their say.

Now it is creeping Sharia's turn to ruin it for them.

249 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 6:43:17am

re: #237 RayFerd

Hey, we may know it exists, but who's to say what it will look like. The Higgs could be a Rastafarian for all we know.

250 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 6:47:33am

@JIDF has blocked me on Twitter because I was following people he didn't like.

251 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 6:50:34am

re: #249 lawhawk

Hey, we may know it exists, but who's to say what it will look like. The Higgs could be a Rastafarian for all we know.

So the mass of everything would be broken down into kilo's?

252 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 6:57:40am

re: #251 RayFerd

It already is :) He was already thinking ahead.

253 AK-47%  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 6:59:32am

re: #250 Learned Mother of Zion

@JIDF has blocked me on Twitter because I was following people he didn't like.

thank you again for reminding me why I don't twit

254 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 7:08:23am

Third grade reaction by third grade minds.

255 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 7:10:39am

TV star Andy Griffith has died, close friend tells local television station. RIP

256 Shropshire_Slasher  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 7:13:59am

Lions and tigers and Zombies
[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]
O My!

257 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 7:17:19am

:(

258 garhighway  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 7:19:06am

Greetings from a jury duty room in NYC! They have wi-fi now!

The Apple tries very hard to make jury duty tolerable.

259 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 7:19:42am

re: #258 garhighway

Greetings from a jury duty room in NYC! They have wi-fi now!

The Apple tries very hard to make jury duty tolerable.

Youtube Video
260 Gus  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 7:21:54am

re: #255 lawhawk

TV star Andy Griffith has died, close friend tells local television station. RIP

Image: File:Andy_Griffith_1955.JPG

261 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 7:23:24am

[Link: todayentertainment.today.msnbc.msn.com...]

262 ReamWorks SKG  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 7:27:07am

Has it ever occurred to these people that heterosexual man can teabag their partners just as easily as homosexual ones? There's this image of a homosexual man as being defined only by sexual acts, when I'm certain that heterosexual men have similar sexual appetites.

263 ReamWorks SKG  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 7:27:54am

re: #258 garhighway

That seems very unwise! Do they really want people tweeting their trial?

264 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 7:28:06am

re: #262 ReamWorks SKG

Has it ever occurred to these people that heterosexual man can teabag their partners just as easily as homosexual ones? There's this image of a homosexual man as being defined only by sexual acts, when I'm certain that hetereosexual men have similar sexual appetites.

They always have Teh Ghey on their 'minds'.

265 Gus  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 7:28:47am

re: #261 Varek Raith

[Link: todayentertainment.today.msnbc.msn.com...]

Was thinking about him on Sunday.

266 AK-47%  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 7:29:19am

They also assume that gays, being depraved by nature, are all into every sort of depraved act imaginable, including paedophilia and bestiality.

267 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 7:29:56am

re: #263 ReamWorks SKG

That seems very unwise! Do they really want people tweeting their trial?

Odd. Last time I had jury duty cell phones were off *and collected* every morning when we came into the jury room.

Ah - he probably means the room where you're waiting around to potentially be selected. That can be boring unless you brought a device, book, or newspaper.

268 Gus  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 7:31:44am

re: #264 Varek Raith

They always have Teh Ghey on their 'minds'.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

269 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 7:31:47am

re: #262 ReamWorks SKG

Has it ever occurred to these people that heterosexual man can teabag their partners just as easily as homosexual ones? There's this image of a homosexual man as being defined only by sexual acts, when I'm certain that heterosexual men have similar sexual appetites.

No, they don't. Same thing with anal but they think only gays do that.

270 ReamWorks SKG  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 7:31:56am

Can we talk about the real important news of the day!? Someone stole Brahms' and Strauss' teeth!

[Link: www.latimes.com...]

271 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 7:32:53am

re: #267 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Odd. Last time I had jury duty cell phones were off *and collected* every morning when we came into the jury room.

Ah - he probably means the room where you're waiting around to potentially be selected. That can be boring unless you brought a device, book, or newspaper.

I'd bring the The Communist Manifesto, The Anarchist Cookbook and Mein Kampf to read. Take that, jury duty!
;)

272 Shropshire_Slasher  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 7:33:07am

re: #269 HappyWarrior

and girls that wear promise rings...
/
/

273 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 7:34:06am
Youtube Video
274 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 7:34:39am

Anyhow, I love how the Tea Party got upset at being called "Teabaggers" when they were the ones who called themselves that first without realizing the sexual connotation and then acting like it was the left's fault and somehow the term was somehow even close to racial or homophobic slurs. It really showed one how whiny that whole movement is.

275 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 7:37:33am

So much for states' rights in Gov. Christie's eyes - he's open to the idea of letting the feds run the NJ health exchange.

Gov. Chris Christie said he is exploring letting the federal government set up the state health insurance exchange required by the federal health care overhaul to allow individuals to buy coverage.

He also said he is not sure that New Jersey needs to expand Medicaid under the federal law because the state's program that covers the poor and disabled is already so inclusive.

The Republican governor made the comments while appearing on Fox News Channel's "Fox and Friends" show, one of four national television appearances he was making Tuesday, a day after he told New Jersey lawmakers during a special session that they should cut taxes.

New Jersey legislative Democratic leaders said they had already agreed to a tax cut and accused the governor of trying to win more national attention.

Speaking on "Fox and Friends," Christie told about how he rejected the legislative Democrats' $800 million income tax increase, but he did not mention that it was intended only for people making more than $1 million or that the Legislature also adopted a tax cut plan.

The tax hike would have funded a larger property tax relief package, or funded transportation projects without the need for more bonding.

NJ may not need to expand its Medicare program as much as some other states (think LA, FL and TX for instance) to cover those uninsureds anticipated to be covered under the PPACA. It would be a more gradual and smaller expansion, but it would still bring more people into coverage than the current system.

I think that's Christie's way of finessing around the fact that the PPACA's individual mandate wont affect most NJ residents and that the expanded coverage would help those residents who don't have access to affordable insurance coverage.

276 Shropshire_Slasher  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 7:37:58am

Christie: I'd 'Answer the Call' If Asked to Be Vice President
[Link: www.cnbc.com...]
Millions of NJ residents are begging mittens to call

277 garhighway  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 7:38:53am

re: #263 ReamWorks SKG

I'm at the stage where we are sitting around waiting to see if we will be put on a panel, so they let us use laptops, iPads, etc...

Once you are actually on a jury, then they would forbid such activity.

278 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 7:42:46am

re: #276 Tommy's cone of shame

Christie: I'd 'Answer the Call' If Asked to Be Vice President
[Link: www.cnbc.com...]
Millions of NJ residents are begging mittens to call

I thought he said he'd rather die or something than be VP. Anyhow, I can't see Christie as a good national candidate. Too bombastic in style. Virginia's McDonnell is going to be chairman of the GOP platform committee. I think he will run in 2016 for sure if Romney loses.

279 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 7:47:11am

Anyone know what a "control order violation" is? Is it a parole thing?

280 CuriousLurker  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 7:47:17am

re: #250 Learned Mother of Zion

@JIDF has blocked me on Twitter because I was following people he didn't like.

I just looked at his timeline. Seems he also flung one of the filthiest, most sexist epithets in existence at you for disagreeing with him. If he claims to be a defender of Jews and then turns around speaks to Jewish women like that, then he's just another piece of internet trash. Good riddance.

281 wrenchwench  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 7:47:55am

re: #255 lawhawk

TV star Andy Griffith has died, close friend tells local television station. RIP

If you haven't seen "No Time For Sergeants", you haven't seen Andy Griffith.

Youtube Video

Here he tells how he got the part:

Youtube Video
282 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 7:48:10am

re: #276 Tommy's cone of shame

Millions more are hoping he sticks around. A poll from May (most recent I could find) shows that Christie's got strong support in the state.

Voters approve 57 - 38 percent of the job Christie is doing, close to his all-time high 59 - 36 percent in an April 11 Quinnipiac University poll. Men approve 61 - 34 percent while women approve 53 - 41 percent. Approval is 87 - 11 percent among Republicans and 61 - 32 percent among independent voters. Democrats disapprove 63 - 30 percent.

New Jersey voters approve 53 - 43 percent of the job Obama is doing and say 52 - 44 percent he deserves to be reelected.

That same poll also found that Christie wouldn't add to Romney's chances in NJ, and that most New Jerseyeans believe that Christie wouldn't be satisfied with a VP slot (eg playing second fiddle).

283 Gus  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 7:49:07am

I always thought it was well accepted knowledge that JIDF is a bunch of weirdos.

284 wrenchwench  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 7:49:47am

re: #283 Gus

I always thought it was well accepted knowledge that JIDF is a bunch of weirdos.

I think it's one bigoted scumbag, but I could be wrong.

285 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 7:51:18am

Good morning lizards!

Sad news about Andy Griffith.

This is funny, he talks about football...

Youtube Video
286 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 7:51:47am

re: #280 CuriousLurker

I just looked at his timeline. Seems he also flung one of the filthiest, most sexist epithets in existence at you for disagreeing with him. If he claims to be a defender of Jews and then turns around speaks to Jewish women like that, then he's just another piece of internet trash. Good riddance.

I didn't see that. Would you please retweet it to show everyone what a freaking dickbag he is.

287 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 7:54:55am

In the news, Iran shooting fireworks for the world to see....

Iran tests missiles, renews Hormuz closure threat as EU oil embargo kicks in

(CBS/AP) TEHRAN, Iran - Iran's official news agency official IRNA reports that the country's powerful Revolutionary Guards unit has launched several missiles in a military exercise.

Iran holds several military maneuvers per year, but the current one coincides with the beginning of a European Union oil embargo meant to pressure the country over its nuclear program.

The Tuesday report said the missiles, including long-range ones capable of hitting U.S. warships in the Persian Gulf, successfully hit their targets.

Don't they know the 4th of July isn't until tomorrow?

288 CuriousLurker  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 7:55:33am

re: #286 Learned Mother of Zion

I didn't see that. Would you please retweet it to show everyone what a freaking dickbag he is.

I wasn't going to repeat it, but I'll put it here so everyone can see. I have no intention of engaging with that scum, not even as a retweet (yes, the scrubbed word is the c-word):

289 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 7:56:21am

re: #282 lawhawk

Millions more are hoping he sticks around. A poll from May (most recent I could find) shows that Christie's got strong support in the state.

That same poll also found that Christie wouldn't add to Romney's chances in NJ, and that most New Jerseyeans believe that Christie wouldn't be satisfied with a VP slot (eg playing second fiddle).

It's interesting how they approve of both Christie and Obama. Anyhow, I do agree with Christie not wanting to play second fiddle. Doesn't sound like his style plus I think he wants to run in the future. It will be interesting to see who Romney names. I think he goes with a southern social conservative who is more populist when it comes to campaigning and rhetoric.

290 CuriousLurker  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 7:56:26am

re: #288 CuriousLurker

Damn, I guess it didn't get scrubbed. Ugh.

291 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 7:58:12am

re: #290 CuriousLurker

Damn, I guess it didn't get scrubbed. Ugh.

The c-word. What a freaking shmuck.

292 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 7:58:12am

re: #287 NJDhockeyfan

In the news, Iran shooting fireworks for the world to see...

Iran tests missiles, renews Hormuz closure threat as EU oil embargo kicks in

Don't they know the 4th of July isn't until tomorrow?

July 4th is one of my least favorite holidays. Just too many drunks on the roads. I have to run out this morning for supplies so I can hunker down until next week. Luckily all my white trash neighbors are in jail or moved away. Kids sent off to foster care so it should be pretty quiet around here this year.

293 AK-47%  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:04:31am

re: #289 HappyWarrior

I think he goes with a southern social conservative who is more populist when it comes to campaigning and rhetoric.

He will need a serious Christian socon to get the vote out the fundamentalist vote.

294 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:06:04am

re: #293 Expand Your Ground

He will need a serious Christian socon to get the vote out the fundamentalist vote.

Huckabee? But Huckabee isn't even being vetted and I think those two have some bad blood.

295 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:08:26am

re: #294 HappyWarrior

Huckabee? But Huckabee isn't even being vetted and I think those two have some bad blood.

I would guess Rubio. Florida is a swing state, he might help with Hispanic voters.

296 iossarian  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:11:55am

re: #295 Killgore Trout

I would guess Rubio. Florida is a swing state, he might help with Hispanic voters.

I would be very surprised if Rubio went for it. At this point I'm assuming that anyone remotely "serious" is standing well clear to avoid the splatter effect.

297 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:13:00am

re: #296 iossarian

I would be very surprised if Rubio went for it. At this point I'm assuming that anyone remotely "serious" is standing well clear to avoid the splatter effect.

That would leave Sheriff Joe still available...
//

298 Gus  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:13:36am

re: #296 iossarian

I would be very surprised if Rubio went for it. At this point I'm assuming that anyone remotely "serious" is standing well clear to avoid the splatter effect.

Is Dan Quayle available?

//

299 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:14:40am

re: #296 iossarian

I would be very surprised if Rubio went for it. At this point I'm assuming that anyone remotely "serious" is standing well clear to avoid the splatter effect.

I don't know much about Rubio but I'm not not so sure he's potentially "serious" on a national level. He might go for it. Mitt may have to settle for any warm body to fill the vp slot. There don't seem to be any good choices available.

300 wrenchwench  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:16:45am

re: #292 Killgore Trout

July 4th is one of my least favorite holidays. Just too many drunks on the roads. I have to run out this morning for supplies so I can hunker down until next week. Luckily all my white trash neighbors are in jail or moved away. Kids sent off to foster care so it should be pretty quiet around here this year.

Fourth of July is great here. I can walk to the main venues of the festivities. Two parks have things going on, starting with a cowboy breakfast which I might get up for this year, then a parade (which I was in about 5 times--that's the best), then ice cream and hot dogs, a cake walk, live music, and a big fireworks show at night, although the monsoon rains are predicted to arrive right on schedule this year, which means a cloudburst at 3:00 PM, which makes everyone say "Ah!" and then scramble for shelter.

301 wrenchwench  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:17:24am

I tried to squeeze one more "which" in there, at which I failed.

302 Gus  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:17:53am
303 Gus  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:18:44am

Stuff like this about Muslims reminds me of the Jewish conspiracies. Muslims are taking over medicine, education and government!!!!! Right. Yep.

304 Gus  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:20:11am

Rewrite...

After snorting 12 lines of coke, Kamal Saleem says Islamists are taking over medicine, education, politics & govt...

305 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:20:20am

re: #303 Gus

Stuff like this about Muslims reminds me of the Jewish conspiracies. Muslims are taking over medicine, education and government!!! Right. Yep.

The christians hate competition.

306 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:20:55am

Ruling allows for-profit colleges to continue bilking their students with degrees that aren't worth the paper they're written on and can continue to get federal student loans to cover the costs (even as the students can't repay since they can't land jobs due to having degrees that aren't worth the paper they're written on).

Congratulations are in order for the for-profit college industry, which won a major court ruling this week—a judge ruled that the Department of Education could not penalize these fake schools just because they routinely destroyed the financial future of their graduates. Here are the outrageous DoE rules, which were struck down as "arbitrary and capricious," via the WSJ:

The rules would have required that a school meet one of three requirements for three of four years, or lose access to federal student aid: at least 35% of recent graduates are repaying their loans; loan payments eat up no more than 12% of graduates' average annual earnings; or payments consume no more than 30% of graduates' average discretionary income.

The problem is even worse when you consider that 10% of students nationwide are enrolled in for-profits, but they take 25% of federal student loans, and account for 50% of defaults (and see here).

307 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:21:22am

re: #295 Killgore Trout

I would guess Rubio. Florida is a swing state, he might help with Hispanic voters.

I can see that though I think Rubio would helpp more with conservatives than Hispanics. I've seen statistics that suggest both Jeb Bush and Charlie Crist outdid him with Hispanic voters. think Rubio's a big gamble too though. He's got very little time on the national stage and you know they don't want a Palin 2.0.

308 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:22:24am
Frank says:

Who are the brain police?

309 iossarian  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:22:34am

re: #299 Killgore Trout

I don't know much about Rubio but I'm not not so sure he's potentially "serious" on a national level. He might go for it. Mitt may have to settle for any warm body to fill the vp slot. There don't seem to be any good choices available.

My guess would be that guys (they're all guys BTW) like Rubio would be eyeing up the 2016 race at this point.

I think the "any warm body" plan is most likely.

310 Gus  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:23:03am

Can the GOP at least get rid of this asshole?

311 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:23:18am

re: #303 Gus

Stuff like this about Muslims reminds me of the Jewish conspiracies. Muslims are taking over medicine, education and government!!! Right. Yep.

It's pretty much the same crap honestly. I did my college term paper on pogroms and Anti-Semitism in the Russian empire, the rhetoric used is very close. Fortunately, we have avoid widespread violence against Muslims but the anti Muslim propaganda machine isn't helping.

312 Gus  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:23:23am

re: #310 Gus

Can the GOP at least get rid of this asshole?

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Not the first time either.

313 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:23:35am

re: #300 wrenchwench

Fourth of July is great here. I can walk to the main venues of the festivities. Two parks have things going on, starting with a cowboy breakfast which I might get up for this year, then a parade (which I was in about 5 times--that's the best), then ice cream and hot dogs, a cake walk, live music, and a big fireworks show at night, although the monsoon rains are predicted to arrive right on schedule this year, which means a cloudburst at 3:00 PM, which makes everyone say "Ah!" and then scramble for shelter.

Are they still going to have fireworks with the heat and drought? Sounds kinda risky.

314 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:23:48am

re: #310 Gus

Can the GOP at least get rid of this asshole?

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That's low even for Joe Walsh.

315 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:24:41am

re: #300 wrenchwench

We already had our local 4th of July fireworks display. A few towns here are having them tonight, and more are doing it on the 4th and later in the week. Lots of opportunities for fireworks photos....

316 iossarian  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:25:26am

re: #306 lawhawk

To be honest, even though I think the vast majority of for-profit colleges are complete rip-offs, I could see the judge's point in the ruling that the thresholds at which loans should be paid back for continued institutional eligibility were arbitrary.

I hope that the legal system allows the Dept. of Ed to come back with a revised threshold which is

a) not arbitrary, and
b) a lot tougher - e.g. 90% of your students have to be paying their loans back or you're out of luck

317 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:28:40am

re: #309 iossarian

My guess would be that guys (they're all guys BTW) like Rubio would be eyeing up the 2016 race at this point.

I think the "any warm body" plan is most likely.

I think the same. Rubio's still very young(DoB is 1969 or 70) I think. I think Rubio wants to ironically postion himself like Obama did as a young, newcomer to national politics. Plus Rubio kind of hurts the Romney argument that Obama "is a failure" because he didn't have enough experience. He's been a senator for not even two years. I know though that the McCain campaign had no problem doing the same with Palin who had comparable state wide experience but in Rubio's defense he was Speaker of the House in his native state before becoming senator but still.

318 CuriousLurker  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:29:15am

re: #304 Gus

They need to be more creative, like the MB has infiltrated the Bilderberg Group and the new Judeo-Islamic cabal is going to create a global Zionist Caliphate...[or insert the very, very EVIL conspiracy of your choice].

319 wrenchwench  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:29:24am

re: #313 Killgore Trout

Are they still going to have fireworks with the heat and drought? Sounds kinda risky.

Yep. The public can't shoot 'em off, but our big display is put on by the fire department, who presumably have their equipment strategically arrayed around the area. And the rains are coming! It almost rained here yesterday. Everybody could smell it.

320 CuriousLurker  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:30:31am

re: #313 Killgore Trout

Are they still going to have fireworks with the heat and drought? Sounds kinda risky.

Dude, stop being such a bag of downers! //

321 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:30:36am

re: #313 Killgore Trout

The wildfires out west are getting some places to reconsider their firearms policies - in Utah alone, at least 20 of the wildfires were due to firearms discharges.

Recreational shooting is being blamed for at least 20 fires this year in the state. It's an activity long enjoyed and fervently protected by enthusiasts -- but firing a gun near the high and dry grass of Utah is sparking flames and igniting controversy throughout the state.

"This is gonna be really (requiring) everybody working together," says Gov. Gary R. Herbert, a Republican. On Monday, Herbert empowered the state's top forests official to restrict firearms near cities and towns where fire danger is extreme.

"Our biggest problem is people being foolish and not using common sense," Herbert lamented.

A recent fire outside Salt Lake City erupted when a recreational target practice led to flames that engulfed an area near a dump. Nine thousand people were temporarily forced from their homes and more than 6,000 acres were charred before the fire was contained.

Gun advocacy groups say banning weapons is a step too far.

Really? Too far? How many homes and businesses have to be destroyed for an outdoors firearms discharge ban to be absolutely necessary? It's a massive lack of common sense on the part of those firing off those firearms; start a fire and watch it drain state and local resources and put lives at risk - see how yet another air tanker crashed just a few days ago fighting fires in SD that grounded a fleet of C-130 tankers.

Common sense indeed. There are open fire bans during red flag weather - that should extend to recreational firearms discharges for the same reason.

322 bratwurst  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:34:01am

I am going to do you a big favor and save you the trouble of following Donald Trump on Twitter.. .

Today, he is SURE that Obama made a deal with the Saudis to increase oil production (and thus lower prices) until after the election...BUT the fact that the prices have gone up this week indicates that OPEC believes he is in trouble.

(I know what you are thinking...my theory is that Trump doesn't pump his own gas and thus has no idea that prices general do go up around summer holidays)

323 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:34:07am

re: #321 lawhawk

You can have my gun when you pry it from my burnt to a crisp by the sudden wildfire hands... oh wait!

324 Gus  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:34:12am

re: #320 CuriousLurker

Dude, stop being such a bag of downers! //

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325 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:34:19am

Someone like Portman or Pawlenty could be it. They're both from the kinds of state (I know Mitt won Ohio) that Mitt struggled with in the primaries and I think will going forward too.

326 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:35:27am

re: #325 HappyWarrior

Someone like Portman or Pawlenty could be it. They're both from the kinds of state (I know Mitt won Ohio) that Mitt struggled with in the primaries and I think will going forward too.

Mitt should see if he can get Natalie Portman. That will draw some attention.

327 Gus  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:35:40am

Logitech K350 keyboard and Firefox... groan.

328 Shropshire_Slasher  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:35:49am

Only you can stop wild fires.

329 Gus  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:36:32am

re: #321 lawhawk

Guns don't start wildfires. People do.

//

330 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:37:41am

This is a question I have been asking for many years...

Why Can’t We Just Bury All The Power Lines?

331 CuriousLurker  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:37:55am

*sigh* Time to get back to work. Later, lizards...

332 Shropshire_Slasher  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:37:55am

re: #321 lawhawk
It would be a god-dang problem if the guvmint didn't mandate taking all the lead outta my gosh darn ammo!
/

333 AK-47%  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:39:09am

re: #322 bratwurst

Today, [Donald Trump] is SURE that Obama made a deal with the Saudis to increase oil production (and thus lower prices) until after the election...

My counter theory: GOP speculators are planning to let prices go down until mid-summer and then they will start pusing them back upwards, peaking in late October. Because the absolute prices do not matter, it is only what voters feel at the pump

334 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:39:15am

re: #326 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Mitt should see if he can get Natalie Portman. That will draw some attention.

Heh that would be funny even more because she's a noted Democrat.

335 iossarian  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:39:43am

re: #330 NJDhockeyfan

This is a question I have been asking for many years...

Why Can’t We Just Bury All The Power Lines?

Because there is a solid block of people in the US who never allow any kind of up-front investment in anything, no matter how great the cost and efficiency savings down the line. These people are known as "Republicans".

Next question.

336 wrenchwench  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:40:03am

re: #330 NJDhockeyfan

This is a question I have been asking for many years...

Why Can’t We Just Bury All The Power Lines?

$$$ $$$ $$$ $$$ $$$

Any other questions?

337 Shropshire_Slasher  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:40:28am

re: #333 Expand Your Ground

Some more propaganda on that
[Link: www.nypost.com...]

338 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:40:29am

re: #334 HappyWarrior

Heh that would be funny even more because she's a noted Democrat.

And she is fairly knowledgable about droids...
;)

339 Gus  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:41:21am

The wildfires are just a ploy to take away the guns from good old fashioned God fearing Americans! These wildfires are being set by Eric Holder and company in order to facilitate the eventual confiscation of handguns, rifles, you name it! Wake up and smell the coffee!!

Now. Can I sign you up for a years subscription to the NRA?

340 AK-47%  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:42:08am

re: #330 NJDhockeyfan

This is a question I have been asking for many years...

Why Can’t We Just Bury All The Power Lines?

they don't do it here in my part of Germany, the Middle Rhine Valley, because it is hilly, broken country with slate hills. Fortunately, this valley is also well sheltered by surrounding hills against most storms, have only experienced one power outage here in the past five years.

341 Shropshire_Slasher  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:42:17am

re: #335 iossarian

I think there is more to it than that.

342 AK-47%  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:42:58am

re: #339 Gus

Operation "Hot and Hellacious"?

343 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:43:01am

re: #335 iossarian

Because there is a solid block of people in the US who never allow any kind of up-front investment in anything, no matter how great the cost and efficiency savings down the line. These people are known as "Republicans".

Next question.

This a perfect opportunity to create many Shovel Ready Jobs™ and prevent major power problems in the future.

344 iossarian  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:43:08am

Try standing for election on a local city planning ticket with a policy of improving local power infrastructure by burying the power lines.

Then count the seconds until the PAC-funded radio ads begin:

"Prospective councillor Iossarian hates America. Tell prospective councillor Iossarian that wasting taxpayer dollars on vanity projects is evil and wrong."

345 Gus  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:43:21am

re: #336 wrenchwench

$$$ $$$ $$$ $$$ $$$

Any other questions?

Gremlins!

346 Gus  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:44:20am

re: #342 Expand Your Ground

Operation "Hot and Hellacious"?

Operation Fast and Firey!

347 iossarian  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:44:25am

re: #343 NJDhockeyfan

This a perfect opportunity to create many Shovel Ready Jobs™ and prevent major power problems in the future.

Yes. Did you read my point?

If you want your power lines buried, try voting for people who actually believe in investing in infrastructure.

348 Gus  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:44:44am

Gah. The repeat on this keyboard.

See, if it's not one thing it's the other.

349 AK-47%  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:45:08am

re: #341 Tommy's cone of shame

I think there is more to it than that.

Because we like to "run the country like a business". Unfortunately, that does not entail judicious, long-term investments that pay benefits years down the line, but rather seeking immediate short-term profits.

350 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:46:04am

re: #347 iossarian

Yes. Did you read my point?

If you want your power lines buried, try voting for people who actually believe in investing in infrastructure.

You have any links for that?

351 Shropshire_Slasher  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:47:18am

re: #347 iossarian

re: #349 Expand Your Ground

Neither of you know the amount of work that entails.

352 AK-47%  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:48:09am

re: #351 Tommy's cone of shame

re: #349 Expand Your Ground

Neither of you know the amount of work that entails.

It is a very long-term investment

353 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:48:27am

re: #338 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

And she is fairly knowledgable about droids...
;)

And foreign born too which you know would drive Farah and WND nuts because anyone with any relation to a foreign country is suspect not true Americans like Joe Stalin stahce.

354 Gus  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:49:59am

Seriously. Putting ALL utilities underground would be a massive undertaking that would likely take close to 100 years. Think about it. That being said a lot of cities are doing the conversion but it's going to take a long time.

355 wrenchwench  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:51:57am

re: #349 Expand Your Ground

Because we like to "run the country like a business". Unfortunately, that does not entail judicious, long-term investments that pay benefits years down the line, but rather seeking immediate short-term profits.

Running the country like a business seems to actually occur only when it comes to fleecing the poor.

356 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:52:59am

Nasty anti-Israel remarks by a Democrat? This can't be true!
/

County Democratic official Garcia resigns after emails critical of Israel surface

Evelyn Garcia, a member of the Democratic National Committee from Palm Beach County, resigned the post Monday after emails surfaced in which she sharply criticized Israel’s treatment of Palestinians.

Garcia, a candidate for the State House of Representatives from District 88, which includes parts of West Palm Beach and Riviera Beach, said she would continue to campaign for that seat. She apologized for her remarks and called them “ugly” and “hurtful.”

The emails were provided anonymously to local Democratic Party leaders late last week, those leaders said. In each case, the recipient’s name was blacked out. Some of them appear to have been written to a South Florida Congressional aide.

“The continued Israeli occupation of Palestine is ugly on moral, ethical, religious and legal grounds,” Garcia said in an email dated July 26, 2011. “Palestinians had nothing to do with the holocaust and it is time that this guilt trip was taken off their backs…. And I deeply resent U.S. taxpayer funds being used to continue Israeli aggression.”

In that same email, Garcia accused Israel of confiscating land and building illegal settlements in occupied territories, as well as “incursions that kill people, destroy civilian homes and infrastructure all over; mass concentration prison camps, etc.”

In A May 24, 2011 message, Garcia wrote: “Slavery was ended, apartheid was ended and so this occupation must end.”

County Democratic Party Chairman Mark Alan Siegel accepted Garcia’s resignation Monday afternoon. He called the emails “grossly inappropriate.”

357 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:53:01am

re: #330 NJDhockeyfan

This is a question I have been asking for many years...

Why Can’t We Just Bury All The Power Lines?

The Djinn of the Air demand the electricial leakage by aerial powerlines as part of their Islamic rulership over the United States.

358 iossarian  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:54:39am

re: #350 NJDhockeyfan

You have any links for that?

Yes, as a matter of fact I do have substantial evidence.

Germany, France and other European countries have been run by governments ranging from center-left to center-right for around 60 years.

Those countries have underground power lines.

The US has been run by governments ranging from center-right to far-right for 60 years.

It does not have underground power lines.

359 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:54:44am

re: #355 wrenchwench

Running the country like a business seems to actually occur only when it comes to fleecing the poor.

I hate that cliche so much. A country is so different from a business so it's like saying run your church as if it were a porn shop.

360 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:56:48am

re: #354 Gus

Seriously. Putting ALL utilities underground would be a massive undertaking that would likely take close to 100 years. Think about it. That being said a lot of cities are doing the conversion but it's going to take a long time.

The neighborhoods around here who have buried power lines lose power much less during storms than the ones with with the lines stretched over telephone poles. It also makes the area look better.

361 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:58:15am

re: #358 iossarian

Yes, as a matter of fact I do have substantial evidence.

Germany, France and other European countries have been run by governments ranging from center-left to center-right for around 60 years.

Those countries have underground power lines.

The US has been run by governments ranging from center-right to far-right for 60 years.

It does not have underground power lines.

You should come out here. There are lots of areas with underground power lines.

362 Gus  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:59:39am

re: #360 NJDhockeyfan

The neighborhoods around here who have buried power lines lose power much less during storms than the ones with with the lines stretched over telephone poles. It also makes the area look better.

Don't expect something that's taken over 100 years to change overnight. It's a massive undertaking.

363 iossarian  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:59:55am

re: #361 NJDhockeyfan

You should come out here. There are lots of areas with underground power lines.

Tell you what - I don't particularly need to continue this argument. You can take my advice or leave it.

364 wrenchwench  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 9:00:42am

re: #356 NJDhockeyfan

Nasty anti-Israel remarks by a Democrat? This can't be true!
/

County Democratic official Garcia resigns after emails critical of Israel surface

Sexual scandal resulting in arrest of a Republican? Say it ain't so!

Just got a press release from the Orange County District Attorney's office that SanTana councilmember Carlos "Busty" Bustamante was arrested this afternoon and is being charged for a litany of sex crimes.

The full kit-'n'-caboodle of charges, according to the press release: "six felony counts of false imprisonment, three felony counts of assault with the intent to commit a sexual offense, one felony count each of stalking, attempted sexual battery by restraint, and grand theft by false pretense, and one misdemeanor count each of battery, assault, sexual battery, and attempted sexual battery with a sentencing enhancement allegation for committing the offenses as a result of sexual compulsion and for the purpose of sexual gratification."

Damn, son!

Bustamante, of course, has a long history of being a pig. More--much more--as the situation becomes clearer. Press conference tomorrow--see you there!

Balance restored.

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365 b_sharp  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 9:01:28am

Fuckin power lines, who needs 'em. They're old technology.

We should be shooting lasers from house to house for power.

366 Gus  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 9:01:34am

In other news. You can get gasoline for $2.62 a gallon in Mississippi.

367 Gus  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 9:02:00am

re: #365 b_sharp

Fuckin power lines, who needs 'em. They're old technology.

We should be shooting lasers from house to house for power.

Yep. Microwaves. ;)

368 b_sharp  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 9:02:55am

re: #367 Gus

Yep. Microwaves. ;)

Now yer cookin'.

369 iossarian  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 9:03:19am

re: #356 NJDhockeyfan

It's a shame that there is so little tolerance for criticism of Israeli policy vis-a-vis the Palestinians in the US. It makes reasoned debate essentially impossible when any attempt to say that perhaps Israel needs to rethink its approach is met with this kind of hostility.

370 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 9:03:22am

re: #360 NJDhockeyfan

The neighborhoods around here who have buried power lines lose power much less during storms than the ones with with the lines stretched over telephone poles. It also makes the area look better.

Boils down to trading risks and issues for other risks and issues. Storms (wind) vs Storms (flooding). Tree branches vs Tree roots. Etc. etc. Plus underground installation is usually more expensive and more disruptive to do. Along with access issues.

371 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 9:03:39am

re: #363 iossarian

Tell you what - I don't particularly need to continue this argument. You can take my advice or leave it.

Ok. Just a little advise...if you enter a neighborhood without power lines along poles but you see a handful of little green boxes sitting on the ground you probably have entered an area with underground power lines ;)

372 iossarian  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 9:03:45am

re: #366 Gus

In other news. You can get gasoline for $2.62 a gallon in Mississippi.

All thanks to Obama. I bet the Republicans are loving the low gas prices he's managed to provide everyone with.

373 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 9:05:53am

re: #330 NJDhockeyfan

Because the costs are prohibitive, and it ignores what happens when there are floods. Flooding buried lines means that it can take even longer to restore power than the overhead lines. See Hurricane Irene; TS Lee for instance where areas that had buried lines saw power lost for more than a week or two.

Also, buried lines are more susceptible to damage from salt runoff from roads - corroding the lines out and needing more frequent repair/replacement.

Better control of right of ways is needed - better and more pruning of trees, and judicious use of underground lines where applicable (and not in areas prone to flooding).

374 iossarian  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 9:05:53am

re: #371 NJDhockeyfan

Ok. Just a little advise...if you enter a neighborhood without power lines along poles but you see a handful of little green boxes sitting on the ground you probably have entered an area with underground power lines ;)

Lol "advise".

I've lived in both Europe and the US, and I can tell you that US power infrastructure is pitiful in its reliability compared to Europe, because (notwithstanding some areas in which people have managed to invest in such modern-day wonders as underground power lines) the US does not invest in its infrastructure to nearly the same degree as Europe does.

375 Gus  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 9:05:53am

re: #372 iossarian

All thanks to Obama. I bet the Republicans are loving the low gas prices he's managed to provide everyone with.

$2.76/gallon in Texas.

Obama's fault! //

376 b_sharp  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 9:06:35am

re: #371 NJDhockeyfan

Ok. Just a little advise...if you enter a neighborhood without power lines along poles but you see a handful of little green boxes sitting on the ground you probably have entered an area with underground power lines ;)

All the new subdivisions have underground power/phone/cable/fiber optics/sharks and some of the old areas have everything above ground.

377 iossarian  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 9:08:34am

bbl

378 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 9:11:26am

Oh, and I've previously written about the power line issue (overhead vs. buried). Tree trimming has gotten people pissed off too, even though that's a guaranteed way of eliminating one of the major causes of outages (and the 2003 blackout was due to trees cutting power lines causing the cascade throughout the East Coast).

379 b_sharp  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 9:12:46am

re: #378 lawhawk

Oh, and I've previously written about the power line issue (overhead vs. buried). Tree trimming has gotten people pissed off too, even though that's a guaranteed way of eliminating one of the major causes of outages (and the 2003 blackout was due to trees cutting power lines causing the cascade throughout the East Coast).

Build your trees out of NERF sponge.

380 Gus  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 9:14:59am

re: #379 b_sharp

Build your trees out of NERF sponge.

Lichen and coat hangers. Lots and lots of lichen.

381 ReamWorks SKG  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 9:15:58am

Wasn't there an old PSA with Smokey the Bear:

"Matches don't start forest fires....guns do."

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

382 wrenchwench  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 9:16:41am

re: #380 Gus

Lichen and coat hangers. Lots and lots of lichen.

I'm lichen that idea. You moss come up with more like that!

383 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 9:17:16am

re: #378 lawhawk

Oh, and I've previously written about the power line issue (overhead vs. buried). Tree trimming has gotten people pissed off too, even though that's a guaranteed way of eliminating one of the major causes of outages (and the 2003 blackout was due to trees cutting power lines causing the cascade throughout the East Coast).

My county cuts a wide area of trees away from the power lines every summer. It definitely keeps power outages to a minimum. I was only out of power for one day from Friday's storms. Parts Albemarle county are expected to be out until this coming Saturday.

384 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 9:17:46am

re: #378 lawhawk

The same people who would want to see buried lines will also be people who complain when the utilities ask for and receive permission from the PSCs to raise rates to upgrade utilities by burying lines or doing other necessary work and/or complain when their roads are torn up to bury said utilities.

It's a no-win situation. So, we get stuck with the situation we've got.

Some places have overhead lines, and others don't.

Manhattan has essentially eliminated overhead lines, but the outer boroughs have large areas still serviced by overhead lines. That means during bad weather, the outer boroughs see more outages, but when we get into the winter season, Manhattan sees more underground fires due to power lines shorting out, causing localized outages.

Had TS Lee or Irene hit NYC head-on, the buried lines would have brought Manhattan and NYC to a standstill - requiring replacement of hundreds of miles of buried lines (to say nothing of a flooded out subway system).

385 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 9:18:55am

re: #365 b_sharp

Fuckin power lines, who needs 'em. They're old technology.

We should be shooting lasers from house to house for power.

Unavailable for comment...

386 Gus  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 9:23:10am

re: #384 lawhawk

The same people who would want to see buried lines will also be people who complain when the utilities ask for and receive permission from the PSCs to raise rates to upgrade utilities by burying lines or doing other necessary work and/or complain when their roads are torn up to bury said utilities.

It's a no-win situation. So, we get stuck with the situation we've got.

Some places have overhead lines, and others don't.

Manhattan has essentially eliminated overhead lines, but the outer boroughs have large areas still serviced by overhead lines. That means during bad weather, the outer boroughs see more outages, but when we get into the winter season, Manhattan sees more underground fires due to power lines shorting out, causing localized outages.

Had TS Lee or Irene hit NYC head-on, the buried lines would have brought Manhattan and NYC to a standstill - requiring replacement of hundreds of miles of buried lines (to say nothing of a flooded out subway system).

Exactly. In some areas you're just creating another new set of problems with underground utilities: namely flooding. They're also harder to inspect, repair and replace.

387 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 9:25:17am

'Iran agents planned to hit US and British targets in Kenya'

Two Iranian agents arrested with explosives planned to attack US, British, Israeli or Saudi Arabian targets in Kenya, officials have claimed.

Officials told the Associated Press news agency that the plot appears to fit into a global pattern of attacks or attempted attacks by Iranian agents, mostly against Israeli interests.

Ahmad Abolfathi Mohammad and Sayed Mansour Mousavi were arrested last week with 33 pounds of RDX, a powerful explosive, in the coastal city of Mombasa. Several hotels on the coast are Israeli-owned.

One official said the Iranians are members of Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps Quds Force, an elite and secretive unit.

388 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 9:30:50am

re: #382 wrenchwench

I'm lichen that idea. You moss come up with more like that!

And then the caribou come. And you know what follows them, don't you?

389 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 9:31:12am

re: #374 iossarian

Lol "advise".

I've lived in both Europe and the US, and I can tell you that US power infrastructure is pitiful in its reliability compared to Europe, because (notwithstanding some areas in which people have managed to invest in such modern-day wonders as underground power lines) the US does not invest in its infrastructure to nearly the same degree as Europe does.

But investing in infrastructure is EVIL! I'd have to pay more taxes to have the lifestyle I want them to give me for free!!!

390 makeitstop  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 9:32:02am

Afternoon, Lizards.

I don't know if this has been posted.

Rep. Joe Walsh Blasts Double Amputee’s Military Service, Says She’s Not A ‘True Hero’

Rep. Joe Walsh is slime. That is all.

391 Winny Spencer  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 9:33:42am

re: #390 makeitstop

Afternoon, Lizards.

I don't know if this has been posted.

Rep. Joe Walsh Blasts Double Amputee’s Military Service, Says She’s Not A ‘True Hero’

Rep. Joe Walsh is slime. That is all.

And a deadbeat dad.

392 Gus  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 9:34:02am

On the Higgs boson:

The particle has been so difficult to pin down that the physicist Leon Lederman reportedly wanted to call his book "The Goddamn Particle." But he truncated that epithet to "The God Particle," which may have helped elevate the particle's allure in popular culture.

393 Kragar  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 9:34:56am

Fischer: Obama Will Use 'Medical Nazis' to Force Doctors to Provide Treatment

Bryan Fischer has dedicated almost every minute of his program since the Supreme Court upheld the health care reform legislation last week to railing against it and has been growing increasingly outraged and apocalyptic with every passing day.

The trend continued yesterday when Fischer seized upon an old Brietbart article about a survey conducted by a Tea Party-affiliated group called the Doctor Patient Medical Association Foundation that supposedly found that 83% of doctors are thinking about quitting the practice of medicine and nearly half would stop accepted Medicaid/Medicare patients because of the changes in legislation.

As such, Fischer declared, President Obama was going to have to create an army of "enforcers," "Stormtroopers," and "Medical Nazis" to go around forcing doctors to remain in business and ordering them to provide treatment to patients:

394 AK-47%  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 9:35:18am

re: #392 Gus

On the Higgs boson:

The particle has been so difficult to pin down that the physicist Leon Lederman reportedly wanted to call his book "The Goddamn Particle." But he truncated that epithet to "The God Particle," which may have helped elevate the particle's allure in popular culture.

Just imagine if they'd called it the "Allah Particle"...

395 Kragar  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 9:36:38am

re: #392 Gus

On the Higgs boson:

The particle has been so difficult to pin down that the physicist Leon Lederman reportedly wanted to call his book "The Goddamn Particle." But he truncated that epithet to "The God Particle," which may have helped elevate the particle's allure in popular culture.

I wanted to cry when I read that article which said finding the Higgs Boson was bad news for atheists.

396 Kragar  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 9:40:14am

BY CROM, THESE DOUCHEBAG READINGS ARE OFF THE CHART!

Walsh Slams Duckworth: ‘True Heroes’ Don’t Talk About Their Military Service

Republican Rep. Joe Walsh (R-IL), knocked his Democratic opponent Tammy Duckworth — a veteran who lost both of her legs as a helicopter pilot in Iraq — for talking about her military career too much. Discussing her accomplishments, Walsh suggested, meant that Duckworth was not a “true [hero].”

Walsh said at a town hall meeting on Sunday that unlike Duckworth, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) rarely spoke about his military service during the 2008 presidential election — a claim that ignores the thrust of McCain’s campaign and his entire political career.

“That’s what’s so noble about our heroes. Now I’m running against a woman who — I mean, my God, that’s all she talks about,” said Walsh, in video posted by Think Progress. “Our true heroes, it’s the last thing in the world they talk about. Our true heroes, the men and women who served us, it’s the last thing in the world they talk about. That’s why we are so indebted and in awe of what they have done.”

Yeah, real heroes stand up to their ex-wives and refuse to pay their child support. Everyone knows that.

397 Mattand  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 9:42:42am

re: #395 Kragar

I wanted to cry when I read that article which said finding the Higgs Boson was bad news for atheists.

I read the article last night. I honestly don't think the author was assigned religious/supernatural qualities to the Higgs. However, it's a lazy way to gin up controversy over the article, and provides fuel for the idiots who honestly think this will prove the existence of God/Yahweh/Allah/Xenu, et. al.

It's kind of like when evolution is short-handed as monkey=man. It's dumbing down the subject to catch readers' interest ASAP, but it's also the only evolution education most people (Americans, anyway) are likely to get or care about.

398 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 9:42:53am

re: #396 Kragar

So, the GOP position is that serving your nation is good, except if you're a Democrat, who can't talk about their service and/or sacrifices to the nation (such as losing limbs as in Duckworth's case).

Gotcha.

Methinks Walsh hasn't figured out the riddle of steel is an ass.

399 Gus  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 9:43:05am

re: #395 Kragar

I wanted to cry when I read that article which said finding the Higgs Boson was bad news for atheists.

Bozos will be bozos. Looks like the name Leon Lederman settled on, "The God Particle", has created an urban legend or complete misunderstanding by the general public.

400 Mattand  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 9:43:53am

re: #396 Kragar

BY CROM, THESE DOUCHEBAG READINGS ARE OFF THE CHART!

Walsh Slams Duckworth: ‘True Heroes’ Don’t Talk About Their Military Service

Yeah, real heroes stand up to their ex-wives and refuse to pay their child support. Everyone knows that.

Rep Walsh was thinking about the children, and ultimately decided he didn't give a shit.

401 AK-47%  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 9:45:21am

re: #398 lawhawk

So, the GOP position is that serving your nation is good, except if you're a Democrat, who can't talk about their service and/or sacrifices to the nation (such as losing limbs as in Duckworth's case).

Gotcha.

Methinks Walsh hasn't figured out the riddle of steel is an ass.

Two words: Swift Boat.

402 Mattand  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 9:45:48am

re: #398 lawhawk

So, the GOP position is that serving your nation is good, except if you're a Democrat, who can't talk about their service and/or sacrifices to the nation (such as losing limbs as in Duckworth's case).

Gotcha.

Methinks Walsh hasn't figured out the riddle of steel is an ass.

Now, that's not true. If a Democratic President managed to get Bin Laden, for example, you know that the GOP would put partisan politics aside and...

Oh, never mind.

403 Kragar  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 9:46:02am

re: #398 lawhawk

So, the GOP position is that serving your nation is good, except if you're a Democrat, who can't talk about their service and/or sacrifices to the nation (such as losing limbs as in Duckworth's case).

Gotcha.

Methinks Walsh hasn't figured out the riddle of steel is an ass.

They support the troops as long as they shut up and stay out of sight when they get home.

404 allegro  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 9:47:19am

re: #403 Kragar

We support the troops as long as they shut up and stay out of sight when they get home.

...and don't expect health care or rehabilitation for their wounds, mental and physical. Or education to return to civilian life.

405 ReamWorks SKG  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 9:50:06am

Oh! I'm off to Sweden next week for a business trip. I've prepared by watching the Muppet Swedish Chef videos and assembling an Ikea bookshelf.

Any suggestions of things to do in Stockholm? I'll have about half a day free

Youtube Video
406 Kragar  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 9:50:10am

re: #404 allegro

...and don't expect health care or rehabilitation for their wounds, mental and physical. Or education to return to civilian life.

The military is a calling, much like teaching, firefighting or law enforcement. They knew what they were getting into and shouldn't expect to be able to leach off taxpayers or play on the public's sympathies.

Fricking liberals.
/

407 Mattand  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 9:50:40am

re: #403 Kragar

We support the troops as long as they shut up and stay out of sight when they get home unconditionally vote GOP.

Apparently in Walsh's case, there's a quid quo pro when comes to the troops.

It's also a sign of how insane the GOP is right now, in that Walsh is criticizing a US veteren who lost both her legs for her country for daring to mentioning it.

On what fucking planet does this make sense?

408 Kragar  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 9:50:56am

re: #405 ReamWorks SKG

Oh! I'm off to Sweden next week for a business trip. I've prepared by watching the Muppet Swedish Chef videos and assembling an Ikea bookshelf.

Any suggestions of things to do in Stockholm? I'll have about half a day free

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Do not start identifying with the hostage takers is all I can say.

409 Gus  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 9:51:06am

Yeah. We all know how John McCain never talked about his experience in Vietnam.

//

410 AK-47%  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 9:51:50am

re: #407 Mattand

Apparently in Walsh's case, there's a quid quo pro when comes to the troops.

It's also a sign of how insane the GOP is right now, in that Walsh is criticizing a US veteren who lost both her legs for her country for daring to mentioning it.

Dont mention the war!!!

411 Kragar  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 9:52:33am

re: #410 Expand Your Ground

Dont mention the war!!!

"You started it! You invaded Poland!"

412 allegro  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 9:52:59am

re: #407 Mattand

Apparently in Walsh's case, there's a quid quo pro when comes to the troops.

It's also a sign of how insane the GOP is right now, in that Walsh is criticizing a US veteren who lost both her legs for her country for daring to mentioning it.

On what fucking planet does this make sense?

How DARE she show up in a wheelchair! Pandering b***h!
///

413 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 9:52:59am

I didn't think Walsh could be any more of an asshole: Deadbeat Dad, asshole who yells at his constituents, and now he's telling Tammy Duckworth who is the definition of a hero that she's not one. Takes a real pussy like Walsh to say that. Walsh is just angry because his political future is probably dead.

414 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 9:55:02am

I do not understand, why would anyone do this?

415 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 9:55:05am

Mark Halperin calls Obama a ‘dick’ on live TV

After Time’s Mark Halperin referred to the President of the United States as a “dick” Thursday, MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough made it clear that he helped orchestrate the incident.

Scarborough set Halperin up by asking him about yesterday’s press conference where President Barack Obama scolded Republicans for not raising the debt ceiling.

“Are we on the seven-second delay?” Halperin asked.

“Yeah, sure,” Scarborough said. “Come on. Take a chance.”

“I thought he was kind of a dick yesterday,” Halperin announced with smile.

Following the commercial break, Scarborough admitted he was complicit in the stunt.

... MSNBC has suspended Halperin indefinitely.

“Mark Halperin’s comments this morning were completely inappropriate and unacceptable,” MSNBC said in a statement. “We apologize to the president, the White House and all of our views. We strive for a high level of discourse and comments like these have no place on our air. Therefore, Mark will be suspended indefinitely from his role as an analyst.”

Mark Halperin is a dick.

416 Kragar  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 9:55:15am

From another article:

Duckworth chose to become a helicopter pilot because few other combat roles are open to women. She has served for more than 20 years, earning the rank of Lieutenant Colonel and receiving multiple military awards, including a Purple Heart, an Air Medal, and an Army Commendation Medal.

Oh, like we're supposed to be impressed by all that.
///

417 makeitstop  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 9:56:31am

re: #415 NJDhockeyfan

Mark Halperin calls Obama a ‘dick’ on live TV

Mark Halperin is a dick.

Didn't that happen last year?

418 Kragar  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 9:57:23am

re: #417 makeitstop

Didn't that happen last year?

Yup, byline is 6.30.2011

419 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 9:57:34am

re: #417 makeitstop

Didn't that happen last year?

It did. Look at the date on the article- 6-30-11.

420 allegro  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 9:57:43am

re: #415 NJDhockeyfan

Mark Halperin calls Obama a ‘dick’ on live TV

Mark Halperin is a dick.

Bu Scarborough hasn't been suspended for setting him up? They're both dicks.

421 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 9:57:49am

re: #414 Learned Mother of Zion

Because @peoplearestupid needed more evidence that people are stupid?

422 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 9:58:13am

re: #416 Kragar

From another article:

Oh, like we're supposed to be impressed by all that.
///

Well Joe Walsh stood up to big government by refusing to pay child support. He's a true patriot jackass.

423 makeitstop  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 9:58:34am

re: #420 allegro

Bu Scarborough hasn't been suspended for setting him up? They're both dicks.

It's been a year. If they haven't suspended Scar by now...

/

424 Gus  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 9:58:37am

re: #416 Kragar

From another article:

Oh, like we're supposed to be impressed by all that.
///

Yeah. Brought to you by the same wingnut idiots that considered/consider Joe Wilson a "hero".

425 Mattand  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 9:59:16am

re: #409 Gus

Yeah. We all know how John McCain never talked about his experience in Vietnam.

//

A friend of mine always claims McCain was a known terrible pilot and only got to his position through family ties. Therefore, it was no surprise when he got captured.

The implication, of course, is that McCain somehow brought his capture and torture on himself. When I called him out on this, he stated he was simply citing the facts of the case.

Yet, if I show him what Walsh said to Duckworth, he'd be in a rage. Go figure.

426 allegro  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 9:59:47am

re: #422 HappyWarrior

Well Joe Walsh stood up to big government by refusing to pay child support. He's a true patriot jackass.

"Daddy, daddy, we're hungry!"
"Scram, kid, I got a new girlfriend to knock up impress."

427 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 9:59:54am

re: #417 makeitstop

Didn't that happen last year?

Now that I look at it again you are correct. How did I miss that?

Still...Mark Halperin is a dick.

428 Kragar  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 10:00:09am

re: #421 lawhawk

Because @peoplearestupid needed more evidence that people are stupid?

Speaking of more evidence...

GOP Congressional Nominee Opposes Obamacare Because People ‘Don’t Die From Prostate Cancer, Breast Cancer’

429 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 10:00:14am

re: #418 Kragar

I had a similar issue this morning. Was checking out the NY Daily News site on my smartphone, and they had some kind of issue with the news feed. It was more than 2 months old. I accidentally tweeted that Mike Wallace died... which he did back in April (and other items showed Don Cornelius passed away).

The Daily News was upgrading/updating its site design, which is probably why the news feeds were all screwed up.

430 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 10:01:21am

re: #428 Kragar

Speaking of more evidence...

GOP Congressional Nominee Opposes Obamacare Because People ‘Don’t Die From Prostate Cancer, Breast Cancer’

Lolwut?

431 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 10:02:57am

re: #426 allegro

"Daddy, daddy, we're hungry!"
"Scram, kid, I got a new girlfriend to knock up impress."

Can you believe the AFA gave this guy their man of the year award? Oh wait I can because all that matters to the AFA is that you vote like a homophobe and denounce those who don't think gays are Satan.

432 Mattand  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 10:03:16am

re: #428 Kragar

Speaking of more evidence...

GOP Congressional Nominee Opposes Obamacare Because People ‘Don’t Die From Prostate Cancer, Breast Cancer’

My mom died of breast cancer.

Anyone have a FB or campaign URL for this asswipe?

Edit: Found it.

433 AK-47%  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 10:05:20am

re: #428 Kragar

Speaking of more evidence...

GOP Congressional Nominee Opposes Obamacare Because People ‘Don’t Die From Prostate Cancer, Breast Cancer’

Where does the party find quality candidates like this? Is there a vertting process that involves hitting them on the head with a brick and disqualifying the ones who say "Ouch"?

434 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 10:05:52am

re: #432 Mattand

My mom died of breast cancer.

Anyone have a FB or campaign URL for this asswipe?

I can't but I found his biography. He's actually currently a county executive and spoke at the 2008 RNC.

435 makeitstop  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 10:06:01am

re: #427 NJDhockeyfan

Now that I look at it again you are correct. How did I miss that?

Still...Mark Halperin is a dick.

Fully agree.

436 Gus  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 10:06:25am

re: #425 Mattand

A friend of mine always claims McCain was a known terrible pilot and only got to his position through family ties. Therefore, it was no surprise when he got captured.

The implication, of course, is that McCain somehow brought his capture and torture on himself. When I called him out on this, he stated he was simply citing the facts of the case.

Yet, if I show him what Walsh said to Duckworth, he'd be in a rage. Go figure.

I find it a little difficult to see McCain as a "terrible pilot" considering that he was qualified to make arrested landings on a carrier. Perhaps he was a mediocre pilot at worst but given his carrier quals that isn't exactly a low standing in the pilots' world. There are a lot conspiracy theories about McCain regarding his naval aviator and POW experience -- they have come from both sides of the political aisle (left and right). Another one I hear often is that he was the cause of the 1967 USS Forrestal fire. This is complete bullshit of course.

437 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 10:08:50am

Clinton apologizes to Pakistan, announces supply route deal

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton apologized Tuesday for a November attack by U.S. forces that left 24 Pakistani troops dead.

"I once again reiterated our deepest regrets for the tragic incident in Salala last November," Clinton said in a statement about her call with Pakistani foreign minister Rabbani Khar.

"I offered our sincere condolences to the families of the Pakistani soldiers who lost their lives. Foreign Minister Khar and I acknowledged the mistakes that resulted in the loss of Pakistani military lives. We are sorry for the losses suffered by the Pakistani military. We are committed to working closely with Pakistan and Afghanistan to prevent this from ever happening again," Clinton said.

The Salala incident involved NATO helicopters crossing into Pakistan from Afghanistan, and engaging Pakistani troops at two border crossings while conducting operations against Afghani Taliban forces. The NATO air forces claimed that they had come under fire and were only defending Afghan troops on the ground.

Until now, the administration has declined to apologize — citing an ongoing investigation. Clinton also announced Tuesday that an agreement had been reached with Pakistan over supply routes — a longstanding source of tension between Washington and Islamabad. Those overland supply routes have been closed ever since the attack.

438 Mattand  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 10:09:49am

re: #428 Kragar

Speaking of more evidence...

GOP Congressional Nominee Opposes Obamacare Because People ‘Don’t Die From Prostate Cancer, Breast Cancer’

[Link: www.cancer.gov...]

Estimated new cases and deaths from breast cancer in the United States in 2012:

New cases: 226,870 (female); 2,190 (male)
Deaths: 39,510 (female); 410 (male)

What an asshole.

439 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 10:11:19am

re: #438 Mattand

[Link: www.cancer.gov...]

What an asshole.

Hopefully his opponent slams the hell out of him for that. What idiot believes that no one dies from breast or prostate cancer these days.

440 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 10:12:04am

re: #388 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

And then the caribou come. And you know what follows them, don't you?

Sarah of the Great White North?

441 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 10:13:18am

re: #428 Kragar

Speaking of more evidence...

GOP Congressional Nominee Opposes Obamacare Because People ‘Don’t Die From Prostate Cancer, Breast Cancer’

What the fuckity fuck?!

442 Gus  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 10:14:16am

I'll post this again: lung cancer rates for the USA.

See the pattern?

443 Gus  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 10:15:06am

Heart disease map.

444 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 10:15:45am

NASA: Magnetic storms possible after Monday’s massive solar flare

U.S. space agency NASA warned this week that a massive solar flare recorded on Monday could cause spectacular geomagnetic storms on Earth as soon as Wednesday.

Video published by NASA’s Solar Dynamics Observatory shows the flare in multiple wavelengths jetting out from a sunspot on July 2. The agency said that it caused a magnetic burst that may be powerful enough to cause significant static interruptions in some radio communications in Europe and light up the night skies with atmospheric auroras.

The burst was almost powerful enough to be classified by NASA as an X-class solar flare, the highest and most threatening rating. An X-class flare could significantly disrupt space-based electronics like global positioning systems, cause stock markets to crash or even knock out whole power grids for weeks or months, which NASA has been warning about for years now after predicting the current period of intense solar activity.

The latest flare shouldn’t be enough to cause such disruptions, but NASA says that conditions are ripe for another X-class flare. A similar event in 1989 caused blackouts in Canada, NASA noted in February.

445 Mattand  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 10:17:38am

re: #442 Gus

I'll post this again: lung cancer rates for the USA.

See the pattern?

I just sent this e-mail to Collins. I know I'm not in his district and it makes no difference, but I lost my mom to breast cancer.

I cannot, for the life of me, understand why conservatives prize ignorance so much.

Dear Mr. Collins:

You're obviously ignorant to the threat breast and colon cancer presents to the US public. From [Link: www.cancer.gov:...]


Estimated new cases and deaths from breast cancer in the United States in 2012:

New cases: 226,870 (female); 2,190 (male)
Deaths: 39,510 (female); 410 (male)

Estimated new cases and deaths from prostate cancer in the United States in 2012:

New cases: 241,740
Deaths: 28,170

If you're going to run for Congress by opposing Obama's HCR, fine. Just do your research before opening your mouth and looking like a fool.

I would imagine the people of NY 27 want a representative who is actually informed, rather than a hack who makes thing up.

446 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 10:18:53am

Debbie, classy as usual

447 Kragar  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 10:19:21am

re: #445 Mattand

I just sent this e-mail to Collins. I know I'm not in his district and it makes no difference, but I lost my mom to breast cancer.

I cannot, for the life of me, understand why conservatives prize ignorance so much.

I don't think I could write the guy anything without using the term fucktard at least once.

448 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 10:20:37am

re: #446 Learned Mother of Zion

Debbie, classy as usual

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Classy lady.

449 Kragar  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 10:21:29am

re: #446 Learned Mother of Zion

Debbie, classy as usual

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Well, I'm sure his family will appreciate that.

What a bitch.

450 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 10:21:54am

re: #436 Gus

Completely agree. McCain was a lot of things, but he wasn't a poor pilot. You can't be a bad pilot and still be carrier qualified. At the same time, while it was his plane that had the malfunction resulting in the Forrestal fire disaster, it wasn't his fault. An electrical malfunction traced back to how the fleet was arming Zunis was a contributing factor and when the malfunction launched the Zuni into another armed A-4, the older bomb loads detonated from the high temps killing the first responding firefighters who had no idea that they had half the time they thought they did to get the bombs cooled off.

451 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 10:23:54am

Yeah the attacks on McCain's were silly. Never saw anyone affiliated with the Obama campaign do it but I did see some other people on the left do it which was disappointing since we on the left were rightfully upset when Kerry got swiftboated in 1003.

452 Gus  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 10:27:17am

re: #450 lawhawk

Completely agree. McCain was a lot of things, but he wasn't a poor pilot. You can't be a bad pilot and still be carrier qualified. At the same time, while it was his plane that had the malfunction resulting in the Forrestal fire disaster, it wasn't his fault. An electrical malfunction traced back to how the fleet was arming Zunis was a contributing factor and when the malfunction launched the Zuni into another armed A-4, the older bomb loads detonated from the high temps killing the first responding firefighters who had no idea that they had half the time they thought they did to get the bombs cooled off.

The Zuni of course was fired from a Phantom located near the stern of the Forrestal.

Image: Forrestal_Caiella.jpg

453 Gus  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 10:28:15am

... located near the stern of the Forrestal.

Fixed.

454 Gus  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 10:29:19am

re: #451 HappyWarrior

Yeah the attacks on McCain's were silly. Never saw anyone affiliated with the Obama campaign do it but I did see some other people on the left do it which was disappointing since we on the left were rightfully upset when Kerry got swiftboated in 1003.

Ted Sampley was the lead nut against McCain. For example.

455 Kragar  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 10:30:31am

Religious Right Unites Behind '40 Days to Save America' Initiative

Scarborough is now unveiling endorsements of the effort from Senator Roy Blunt and Congressmen Todd Akin, Doug Lamborn, Duncan Hunter and Louie Gohmert, and major Religious Right groups like the American Family Association, Concerned Women for America, Liberty Counsel, the Southern Baptist Convention’s Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission and the Family Research Council. Dominionist organizations including Lou Engle’s The Call and Cindy Jacobs’ Generals International have also signed on, along with Janet Porter’s Faith2Action, Jerry Boykin’s Kingdom Warriors, Sam Roriguez’s National Hispanic Christian Leadership Conference and Jim Garlow’s Renewing American Leadership.

The board of directors appears to be a who’s who of leading conservative activists and pastors:

456 teresa  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 10:31:24am

re: #281 wrenchwench

OT WW, I actually did redo my favorite blog list at my site. I hadn't really touched it since I started TAL, but your bugging me made me look at it, organize it and get it up to date.

457 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 10:35:37am

re: #454 Gus

Ted Sampley was the lead nut against McCain. For example.

Yeah. Anyhow, I must admit obviously not being a Vietnam Vet myself nor having a father who was I don't know the dynamics personally much. However, as some of you know I work for a historical magazine firm, one of our magazines is a Vietnam Its readership naturally includes a ton of Vietnam vets. I recently had to go through old issues for archival reasons and the magazine's decision to do a story on Max Cleland brought in a lot of nasty letters about Cleland. I thought it was sad to see veterans attack one of their own's courage and bravery simply because of his politics.

458 Kragar  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 10:38:26am

Bobby Jindal: Obama ‘success’ is food stamps

Louisiana Gov. Bob Jindal, who has vowed to reject the expansion of Medicaid under President Barack Obama’s health care law, charged Tuesday that the president “measures success by how many people are on food stamp rolls and government-run health care.”

“The president, his administration, needs to understand what makes this country great in part is that we’re not dependent on government programs,” the Republican governor said on “Fox & Friends.” “It seems to me like the president measures success by how many people are on food stamp rolls and government-run health care. That’s not the American dream.”

459 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 10:40:28am

re: #458 Kragar

Bobby Jindal: Obama ‘success’ is food stamps

Echoing Palin I see, doesn't he have a public school system to ruin?

460 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 10:41:58am

re: #459 HappyWarrior

Echoing Palin I see, doesn't he have a public school system to ruin?

Ruined it already, bored now.

461 Gus  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 10:45:00am

Derp alert!

Google Censors All Gun, Ammo and Accessory Results: Google Censorship!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Freaking Prison Planet BS. Dorks.

462 Gus  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 10:46:30am
463 Gus  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 10:46:55am

Not really "breaking" since this happened a couple of hours ago. Good news nonetheless.

464 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 10:47:38am

re: #461 Gus

Derp alert!

Google Censors All Gun, Ammo and Accessory Results: Google Censorship!!!

Freaking Prison Planet BS. Dorks.

Nope, I can still get 253,000+ returns for "dirt cheap ammo' search.

465 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 10:48:06am

Morning all!

Politics doesn't belong in the Pulpit!

How is it so far on the holiday eve day?

466 AK-47%  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 10:49:02am

just another weekday here in Germany, all us expats will be celebrating this weekend

467 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 10:49:14am

re: #461 Gus

Derp alert!

Google Censors All Gun, Ammo and Accessory Results: Google Censorship!!!

Freaking Prison Planet BS. Dorks.

XD

Fuck you • 9 hours ago

You are fucking retarded. How is it censorship when it is THEIR search engine they are censoring. By saying they can't censor guns in their search is in essence censoring them from censoring anything on their site.

468 Gus  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 10:50:51am

Oh brother.

Tests hint at possible Arafat poisoning
Nine-month investigation by Al Jazeera discovers rare, radioactive polonium on ex-Palestinian leader's final belongings.

469 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 10:52:53am

re: #468 Gus

Oh brother.

Tests hint at possible Arafat poisoning
Nine-month investigation by Al Jazeera discovers rare, radioactive polonium on ex-Palestinian leader's final belongings.

So that's where I left it!

470 blueraven  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 10:55:37am

re: #458 Kragar

Bobby Jindal: Obama ‘success’ is food stamps

Right...Obama's fault!

The Facts

Officially, the food stamp program is now formally known as the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP), which is administered by the U.S. Department of Agriculture. It is broadly available to almost all households with low incomes, though most of the benefits go to families with children. (It also has massive support from the farm lobby, which is why GOP efforts to cut it back have often failed.)

Gingrich is correct that the number of people on food stamps has reached an all-time high. Of course, the economic aftershocks of the Great Recession, which was in full force before Obama took office, has a lot to do with that fact. There often is a time lag between when economic disaster strikes and when people begin to apply for food-stamp assistance.

The mostly recent monthly U.S. Department of Agriculture statistics show that the number of food stamp recipients has topped 46 million, an increase of 65 percent since 2008.

But this increase started in part because of changes in the food stamp program under President George W. Bush, when Congress overrode his veto of the 2008 Farm Bill. That law boosted the purchasing power of food stamps by indexing key elements to inflation.

At the same time, however, Obama’s stimulus bill also temporarily boosted benefits even more. The Obama administration also announced that it was pushing to expand eligibility, in part on the theory that expanding the food stamp program is also good for the economy because the money is quickly spent.

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

It’s true that the most recent figures from the Department of Agriculture’s Food and Nutrition Service (provided to Factcheck.org/USA Today) show that a record number of people—some 46.2 million—are enrolled in the program. But the same data shows that more individuals were added to the program while George W. Bush was in office than have enrolled under Obama’s presidency: Under Bush, the program grew by 14.7 million individuals; under Obama so far, it’s grown by 14.2 million, and, as of October, was declining.

So Bush wins on volume, and Obama wins on velocity: In just a few years, President Obama managed to expand the program by nearly as much as Bush. But Obama didn’t do it without some help from his Republican predecessor, who approved policy changes that set the stage for the program’s current growth.

[Link: reason.com...]

471 Mocking Jay  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 10:56:15am

re: #461 Gus

Derp alert!

Google Censors All Gun, Ammo and Accessory Results: Google Censorship!!!

Freaking Prison Planet BS. Dorks.

Let them use Bing!

472 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 10:56:21am

re: #468 Gus

So, the Russians did it? I'm not surprised. Look what they did to me. /Alexander Litvinenko

473 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 10:57:00am

re: #464 RayFerd

Nope, I can still get 253,000+ returns for "dirt cheap ammo' search.

They're commercializing their "Google Shopping" results and don't, I'm guessing, want to deal with the mess of patchwork that is 50 states worth of drastically different laws on things like magazine capacity, parts & firearms themselves. As a result they're cutting the results from those specific shopping searches. At least, that's what I understand once all the pro-gun/anti-gun hype is peeled away.

Meaningless to me as I'd not shop that way to begin with.

474 wrenchwench  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 11:17:13am

re: #456 teresa

OT WW, I actually did redo my favorite blog list at my site. I hadn't really touched it since I started TAL, but your bugging me made me look at it, organize it and get it up to date.

My "bugging" consisted of pointing out that you have a proud member of the League of the South among your favorites. Your organizing and updating of it kept him on there. I don't understand why you are notifying me of this. Am I missing something?

475 TheSwedish  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 7:44:57pm

Brent Bozell's a real gem. This is the fella whose "Parents' Television Council" was forced to pay 3.5 million bucks to Vince McMahon's pro wrestling company after it was found that Bozell had falsely accused McMahon's wrestlers of causing a kid to kill another. ([Link: bit.ly...] The best part: the PTC had to make a public apology and leave it on its website for a year.

When you make Vince McMahon look reasonable, you have a problem.


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