Video Break: View From the ISS at Night

I am, admittedly, a huge trekkie, but there's something about watching that intro that makes me feel so good. It's a perfect example of the human drive to explore and grow our knowledge of the universe. It's not about war or politics or economics, it's about the simple desire to stretch our wings and see what's out there...

That is, in my opinion, the greatest human drive. To boldly go where no one has before...

Dark_Falcon Sun, Jul 22, 2012 3:18:43pm

This is what our tax dollars are being spent on? Providing video feeds to a Failed Jazz Guitarist and his cult?!1

/Stalker Blog

Meanwhile, sane people enjoy seeing things like this. Thank you, Chalres.

researchok Sun, Jul 22, 2012 3:21:17pm

re: #3 dragonfire1981

Great stuff, but the CGI can't compete with the real thing.

Sheila Broflovski Sun, Jul 22, 2012 3:22:05pm

It's hard to tell what part of the earth they are passing over at any time, but at 3:16 you can totally see the entire shape of Michigan. (It's upside down)

sattv4u2 Sun, Jul 22, 2012 3:22:47pm

Space: The final frontier
These are the voyages of the Starship, Enterprise
Its 5 year mission
To explore strange new worlds
To seek out new life and new civilizations
To boldly go where no man has gone before

prairiefire Sun, Jul 22, 2012 3:23:05pm

re: #3 dragonfire1981

I very much appreciate the character of
Lt. Commander Troi. Finally a soldier I could relate to. "I sense a sadness."

sattv4u2 Sun, Jul 22, 2012 3:23:13pm

re: #2 Targetpractice

It must be a lie, we all know that the Earth is flat!

///

I thought that was my head!

sattv4u2 Sun, Jul 22, 2012 3:23:55pm

re: #6 Learned Mother of Zion

It's hard to tell what part of the earth they are passing over at any time, but at 3:16 you can totally see the entire shape of Michigan. (It's upside down)

Stop standing on your head!

Dark_Falcon Sun, Jul 22, 2012 3:25:07pm

re: #4 Dark_Falcon

/Stalker Blog

Meanwhile, sane people enjoy seeing things like this. Thank you, Charles.

Fixed, oops.

Reverend Mother Ramallo Sun, Jul 22, 2012 3:26:10pm

Beautiful.
That actually made me tear up a bit.
I guess we won't be happy until it looks like Giedi Prime.

Targetpractice Sun, Jul 22, 2012 3:27:13pm

re: #7 sattv4u2

Space: The final frontier
These are the voyages of the Starship, Enterprise
Its 5 year mission
To explore strange new worlds
To seek out new life and new civilizations
To boldly go where no man has gone before

As much as I hated the series at time and absolutely loathed the series finale, Star Trek: Enterprise had a great way of putting the franchise to bed for awhile:

Youtube Video

prairiefire Sun, Jul 22, 2012 3:28:18pm

re: #6 Learned Mother of Zion

Yes, outlined by the lakes.

sattv4u2 Sun, Jul 22, 2012 3:28:57pm

re: #13 Targetpractice

As much as I hated the series at time and absolutely loathed the series finale, Star Trek: Enterprise had a great way of putting the franchise to bed for awhile:

[Embedded content]

It should have ended with Kirk in a hospital trying to recover from his penis turning green!!!
Image: 1526996_f260.jpg

dragonfire1981 Sun, Jul 22, 2012 3:30:09pm

re: #13 Targetpractice

As much as I hated the series at time and absolutely loathed the series finale, Star Trek: Enterprise had a great way of putting the franchise to bed for awhile:

[Embedded content]

I agreed, I just don't understand why they turned the thing in to a defacto TNG episode.

freetoken Sun, Jul 22, 2012 3:30:40pm

It's just one planet.

Something that doesn't seem to influence our politics as much as it ought.

dragonfire1981 Sun, Jul 22, 2012 3:31:22pm

Thoughts on this:

CBO: Income equality NOT getting worse

Yes, I understand what the article source is, but the data source is the CBO itself which, as I understood it, was meant to be non-partisan.

freetoken Sun, Jul 22, 2012 3:31:49pm

re: #16 dragonfire1981

I agreed, I just don't understand why they turned the thing in to a defacto TNG episode.

Because Berman was involved with both. He wrote back into Enterprise some of the characters and situations found in TNG and DS9.

Aye Pod Sun, Jul 22, 2012 3:32:53pm

re: #5 researchok

Great stuff, but the CGI can't compete with the real thing.

Yes it can.

Youtube Video

Beat that, reality

;-)

sattv4u2 Sun, Jul 22, 2012 3:34:51pm

re: #18 dragonfire1981

Thoughts on this:

None till I see/ read the study. Do you have a link?

as I understood it, was meant to be non-partisan.

Mine also. I've seen them come out backing/ contradicting current presidents (not policy ,,, but summaries of issues)

Targetpractice Sun, Jul 22, 2012 3:37:32pm

re: #18 dragonfire1981

Thoughts on this:

CBO: Income equality NOT getting worse

Yes, I understand what the article source is, but the data source is the CBO itself which, as I understood it, was meant to be non-partisan.

Well, the CBO is nonpartisan in that in that it can't pass judgment on what it's given, only operate with it. Which is why politicians will keep feeding revisions of an idea until the CBO gives them the conclusion they're looking for, then run with it.

Dark_Falcon Sun, Jul 22, 2012 3:40:39pm

re: #18 dragonfire1981

Thoughts on this:

CBO: Income equality NOT getting worse

Yes, I understand what the article source is, but the data source is the CBO itself which, as I understood it, was meant to be non-partisan.

They are non-partisan, but often the data sets the CBO analyzes are ones that Congress tells it to use.

Killgore Trout Sun, Jul 22, 2012 3:44:10pm

re: #18 dragonfire1981

Thoughts on this:

CBO: Income equality NOT getting worse

Yes, I understand what the article source is, but the data source is the CBO itself which, as I understood it, was meant to be non-partisan.

It's really easy to deceptively cite CBO reports. Since the interpretation comes from Breitbart I think it's safe to ignore as bullshit.

sattv4u2 Sun, Jul 22, 2012 3:45:08pm

re: #24 Killgore Trout

It's really easy to deceptively cite CBO reports. Since the interpretation comes from Breitbart I think it's safe to ignore as bullshit.

Ya think?

I wonder what Think Progresses take is !!!

Killgore Trout Sun, Jul 22, 2012 3:49:47pm

re: #25 sattv4u2

Ya think?

I wonder what Think Progresses take is !!!

Speaking of stupid bullshit, DKos still loves Chavez
Anti-Capitalist Meet-Up: Mitt And His Fellow Vulture Capitalists See Venezuela As a Threat: It Is.

The likely Republican presidential candidate and quintessential vulture capitalist, Mitt Romney, chided President Obama for not being sufficiently fearful of Venezuela’s socialist president, Hugo Chávez Friás last week
...Venezuela also jailed its criminal banksters for speculating with their depositors money. Here, Mitt, you would likely be in jail for creating tax-evading investment vehicles in the Cayman Islands. No, socialist Venezuela, under President Chavez, is definitely not a vulture-capitalist friendly country. That is why it is now thriving.
...
Yes, Venezuela is a real danger to Mitt and his fellow vulture capitalists. It presents a replicable model of a society that cares about the needs and aspirations of its members, rather than stealing labor from its people to generate profits for a few already wealthy individuals, those 92,000 people, the 0.001 percent who, like Mitt, make their wealth by stealing it from the vast majority of the world’s population.

sattv4u2 Sun, Jul 22, 2012 3:52:07pm

re: #26 Killgore Trout

Speaking of stupid bullshit, DKos still loves Chavez
Anti-Capitalist Meet-Up: Mitt And His Fellow Vulture Capitalists See Venezuela As a Threat: It Is.

Did Sean Penn write that?

Mocking Jay Sun, Jul 22, 2012 3:53:03pm

re: #26 Killgore Trout

I love how a shitty little diary with no recs is being held up as representative of Daily Kos.

Try harder.

Dark_Falcon Sun, Jul 22, 2012 3:53:28pm

re: #26 Killgore Trout

Speaking of stupid bullshit, DKos still loves Chavez
Anti-Capitalist Meet-Up: Mitt And His Fellow Vulture Capitalists See Venezuela As a Threat: It Is.

Anyone who thinks they'd have it better under Chavez as opposed to Romney needs their head examined.

Note: I said 'Chavez', not 'Obama'.

Dark_Falcon Sun, Jul 22, 2012 3:56:53pm

BBL

Killgore Trout Sun, Jul 22, 2012 3:59:21pm

re: #29 Dark_Falcon

Anyone who thinks they'd have it better under Chavez as opposed to Romney needs their head examined.

Note: I said 'Chavez', not 'Obama'.

That's why I get nervous about the American lefty activists shutting down opposition media outlets and fantasies of arresting politicians. Some of them are serious about it.

Kronocide Sun, Jul 22, 2012 4:01:32pm

Wha huh?

Killgore Trout Sun, Jul 22, 2012 4:02:24pm

Met one of my new neighbors today. A classically trained French chef who specializes in charcuterie. Nice.

sattv4u2 Sun, Jul 22, 2012 4:02:43pm

re: #33 Killgore Trout

Met one of my new neighbors today. A classically trained French chef who specializes in charcuterie. Nice.

Hide the tadpoles!

Interesting Times Sun, Jul 22, 2012 4:02:45pm

Durr hurr, people who call for advertiser boycotts against Rush Limbaugh and suggest politicians who actually break laws should face the same consequences as the rest of us are just like Hugo Chavez!!111!!ty Derp.

The Left Sun, Jul 22, 2012 4:03:45pm

re: #35 Interesting Times

CHAVEZ! CHAVEZ! derp.

Aye Pod Sun, Jul 22, 2012 4:04:28pm

re: #31 Killgore Trout

That's why I get nervous about the American lefty activists shutting down opposition media outlets and fantasies of arresting politicians. Some of them are serious about it.

Fuckin terrifying in't it? Who will step forward and deal with this menace to society, this oh-so-real threat to our freedomz?/

Killgore Trout Sun, Jul 22, 2012 4:04:49pm

re: #34 sattv4u2

Hide the tadpoles!

It is going to mess up my barter system with the guy I get duck eggs from. My tomatoes are going to have a hard time competing with fresh sausage made by a pro.

sattv4u2 Sun, Jul 22, 2012 4:05:29pm

re: #35 Interesting Times

Cept they called for a tad more than "boycotting"

[Link: signon.org...]

But you knew that, didn't you

sattv4u2 Sun, Jul 22, 2012 4:06:04pm

re: #38 Killgore Trout

It is going to mess up my barter system with the guy I get duck eggs from. My tomatoes are going to have a hard time competing with fresh sausage made by a pro.

NOM NOM NOM

I'm on my way ,,, knife and fork in hand

Mocking Jay Sun, Jul 22, 2012 4:07:47pm

re: #39 sattv4u2

Cept they called for a tad more than "boycotting"

[Link: signon.org...]

But you knew that, didn't you

"They" being an online petition that couldn't even meet its goal of 10,000 signatures by March of this year.

Achilles Tang Sun, Jul 22, 2012 4:08:54pm

re: #18 dragonfire1981

Thoughts on this:

CBO: Income equality NOT getting worse

Yes, I understand what the article source is, but the data source is the CBO itself which, as I understood it, was meant to be non-partisan.

My thoughts: This data is based on 2007-2009. The core of our economic meltdown. It is hardly strange that those who had the greatest equity, meaning stocks and property would have seen a greater drop than wage earners with little equity, given that much of the income at the top is equity derived.

After tax income differential, over a two year period, is in any case little indication of real wealth disparity. Those middle class earners would have seen their overall wealth drop by 50% or more in the same period when taking home ownership into account.

Equity, as in stocks, has bounced back dramatically since 2009. Home value has not.

In any case any two year period, obviously selected for effect here, says nothing of value, but the last 20 years or so say plenty.

sattv4u2 Sun, Jul 22, 2012 4:09:54pm

re: #41 Mocking Jay

"They" being an online petition that couldn't even meet its goal of 10,000 signatures by March of this year.

just one of many

But you knew that, didn't you

(oh ,, wait ,, you didn't even know about that one!)

Kragar Sun, Jul 22, 2012 4:11:37pm

Obviously 'shopped. No globular clusters.

Mocking Jay Sun, Jul 22, 2012 4:13:17pm

re: #43 sattv4u2

just one of many

But you knew that, didn't you

(oh ,, wait ,, you didn't even know about that one!)

No, I didn't. Which really goes to show you how "many" people were calling for the FCC to ban Limbaugh as opposed to just boycotting him. But please, don't let me stop you from digging in manure. I would hate to take away something you love so much.

sattv4u2 Sun, Jul 22, 2012 4:13:33pm

re: #44 Kragar

Obviously 'shopped. No globular clusters.

Obviously, you don't do the laundry of a teenage boy!!

sattv4u2 Sun, Jul 22, 2012 4:15:12pm

re: #45 Mocking Jay

No, I didn't. Which really goes to show you how "many" people were calling for the FCC to ban Limbaugh as opposed to just boycotting him. But please, don't let me stop you from digging in manure. I would hate to take away something you love so much.

Hey,, when shit is thrown,,,,

Kronocide Sun, Jul 22, 2012 4:21:00pm

re: #31 Killgore Trout

That's why I get nervous about the American lefty activists shutting down opposition media outlets and fantasies of arresting politicians. Some of them are serious about it.

Some leftists make a petition to have the FCC shut down Limbaugh... and this makes you nervous how?

Kragar Sun, Jul 22, 2012 4:23:28pm

re: #48 Kronocide

Some leftists make a petition to have the FCC shut down Limbaugh... and this makes you nervous how?

Petitions are scary.

sattv4u2 Sun, Jul 22, 2012 4:23:58pm

BBIAB

Anyone need anything at Wal Mart?

Kragar Sun, Jul 22, 2012 4:25:33pm

re: #50 sattv4u2

BBIAB

Anyone need anything at Wal Mart?

Just got back.

Aye Pod Sun, Jul 22, 2012 4:25:51pm

Best of Jesse Pinkman:

Youtube Video

Night folks :)

sattv4u2 Sun, Jul 22, 2012 4:26:32pm

re: #51 Kragar

Just got back.

Dammit

Why didn't you tell me. You could have saved me a trip!

sattv4u2 Sun, Jul 22, 2012 4:26:57pm

re: #52 Aye Pod

Best of Jesse Pinkman:

[Embedded content]

Night folks :)

What about Day folks,,, or Morning folks!?!?

goddamnedfrank Sun, Jul 22, 2012 4:28:35pm

re: #31 Killgore Trout

That's why I get nervous about the American lefty activists shutting down opposition media outlets and fantasies of arresting politicians. Some of them are serious about it.

You need to learn how to contextualize. "Some of them" is a pretty nebulous term. How many of them are serious about it and how broad an influence do they have?

sattv4u2 Sun, Jul 22, 2012 4:29:54pm

re: #55 goddamnedfrank

How many of them are serious about it

some!

how broad an influence do they have?

somewhat!

Kronocide Sun, Jul 22, 2012 4:31:17pm

re: #55 goddamnedfrank

You need to learn how to contextualize. "Some of them" is a pretty nebulous term. How many of them are serious about it and how broad an influence do they have?

Twitchy has a habit of saying 'the Left wants to X' then showing a tweet from some nutty miscreant saying X.

palomino Sun, Jul 22, 2012 4:34:06pm

re: #18 dragonfire1981

Thoughts on this:

CBO: Income equality NOT getting worse

Yes, I understand what the article source is, but the data source is the CBO itself which, as I understood it, was meant to be non-partisan.

The years the CBO report addressed were 2007-2009. During that two-year period, the top 1% lost the biggest percentage of their overall wealth of any group. From this, Breitbart's rag concludes that the wealth gap has shrunk and will contiinue to...and that the rich are overtaxed. Of course the Breitbart story leaves out two very important points from the CBO story it quotes.

First, what's not mentioned is that this is typical during a huge financial market collapse. The top 1% have a disproportionately high amount of stock and other market positions, compared to everyone else. So they had huge paper losses when the markets plunged.

Second, the article points out that the wealthiest Americans still pay historically low tax rates. Breitbart leaves this part out as well.

The Left Sun, Jul 22, 2012 4:36:46pm

re: #58 palomino

Second, the article points out that the wealthiest Americans still pay historically low tax rates. Breitbart leaves this part out as well.

i am shocked, shocked! that speculating has gone on in these establishments.

Mocking Jay Sun, Jul 22, 2012 4:38:11pm

re: #58 palomino

Second, the article points out that the wealthiest Americans still pay historically low tax rates. Breitbart leaves this part out as well.

I am sure it was an honest mistake.

goddamnedfrank Sun, Jul 22, 2012 4:41:02pm

re: #57 Kronocide

Twitchy has a habit of saying 'the Left wants to X' then showing a tweet from some nutty miscreant saying X.

Then Killgore gets all nervous about it, paranoid like a first time pot user. However the wannabe liberal censors have no pull, no real influence and hope of having their policies instituted. Meanwhile Romney is actually campaigning on cracking down on pornography.

“Wong assured us that Romney is very concerned with this, and that if he’s elected these laws will be enforced,” Trueman told the website. ”They promised to vigorously enforce federal adult obscenity laws.”

Around the time Trueman says he received those assurances, Romney signed Morality in Media's anti-porn pledge along with Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum, whom he was still battling for the GOP nomination. Since then, he hasn't mentioned the issue very often.

Romney seemed to say the right words for Trueman in 2007, when he was campaigning for president in Iowa the last time. "We got to clean up the water that our kids are swimming in," he said in a TV ad. "And by that I mean the pornography, the drug culture, the violence, the sex, the perversion that bombards them day in and day out. So I want to make sure we enforce our obscenity laws."

That's comparative context, something that gets ignored when one's only motive is to triangulate true neutral.

Killgore Trout Sun, Jul 22, 2012 4:43:15pm

re: #55 goddamnedfrank

You need to learn how to contextualize. "Some of them" is a pretty nebulous term. How many of them are serious about it and how broad an influence do they have?

Move On and Media Matters (a project of the Center for American Progress) have plenty of influence and money. Attempting to misuse government agencies to silence political opponents is a shitty thing to attempt. It's unAmerican and shouldn't be tolerated.

The Left Sun, Jul 22, 2012 4:44:10pm

re: #62 Killgore Trout

Move On and Media Matters (a project of the Center for American Progress) have plenty of influence and money. Attempting to misuse government agencies to silence political opponents is a shitty thing to attempt. It's unAmerican and shouldn't be tolerated.

Remind me again about your position on Citizens United.

Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jul 22, 2012 4:44:58pm

Charles, that was magnificent, thank you!

Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jul 22, 2012 4:45:40pm

re: #59 Millicent Islam

Hey, lookee who's here!
Hi you!
*waves*

The Left Sun, Jul 22, 2012 4:46:51pm

re: #65 Dancing along the light of day

Hey, lookee who's here!
Hi you!
*waves*

Hey cutie! how ARE you? I meant to email you today but couldn't. Hope you're well!

Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sun, Jul 22, 2012 4:46:52pm

re: #63 Millicent Islam

GF & Aye Pod, happy end of weekend to ya.

William Barnett-Lewis Sun, Jul 22, 2012 4:48:01pm

re: #61 goddamnedfrank

Then Killgore gets all nervous about it, paranoid like a first time pot user. However the wannabe liberal censors have no pull, no real influence and hope of having their policies instituted.

Hell, let me know when there IS a left in America again. We haven't had one in decades. Just center-right & further right. All us lefties are out in the cold as far as influence and power are concerned.

Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sun, Jul 22, 2012 4:48:13pm

And Floral! I was in your neck of the woods this weekend. Wedding at the Park Plaza, we stayed at the Biltmore right next to the jewelry district. If it was a weekday Id've hunted down RWC.

The Left Sun, Jul 22, 2012 4:48:57pm

re: #69 Stanley Sea

And Floral! I was in your neck of the woods this weekend. Wedding at the Park Plaza, we stayed at the Biltmore right next to the jewelry district. If it was a weekday Id've hunted down RWC.

ooh, nice!

Killgore Trout Sun, Jul 22, 2012 4:49:26pm

re: #63 Millicent Islam

Remind me again about your position on Citizens United.

I'm not happy about it but I can't offer a serious opinion on the constitutionality. I think national elections should be run on a fixed budget but that's just a personal opinion.

goddamnedfrank Sun, Jul 22, 2012 4:49:51pm

re: #62 Killgore Trout

Move On and Media Matters (a project of the Center for American Progress) have plenty of influence and money. Attempting to misuse government agencies to silence political opponents is a shitty thing to attempt. It's unAmerican and shouldn't be tolerated.

So is attempting to invalidate gay marriages and force raped women to give birth to their rapist's fetuses. Remind me again which Party advocates for these policies?

Context. You fixate on presenting the lesser, ineffective evil as a real threat to people's freedom because you have a pathological need to see yourself as even handed when in fact you're anything but.

Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jul 22, 2012 4:50:50pm

re: #69 Stanley Sea

I owe you a mail.

Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jul 22, 2012 4:51:39pm

re: #66 Millicent Islam

LOL! I am happy to "see" you here. I owe you a mail too!
*smooch*

palomino Sun, Jul 22, 2012 4:55:24pm

re: #71 Killgore Trout

I'm not happy about it but I can't offer a serious opinion on the constitutionality. I think national elections should be run on a fixed budget but that's just a personal opinion.

You horrible European socialist.

Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jul 22, 2012 4:56:07pm

LOL! Aye Pod! Please do explain that name!
*giggles*

Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sun, Jul 22, 2012 4:56:29pm

re: #73 Dancing along the light of day

I owe you a mail.

You're cool. My life has been in upheaval. Thank dog it's all settling in. Really zen right now. Here, me, alone, in my sweet house. Who knew that this is what was best?

The Left Sun, Jul 22, 2012 4:57:48pm

re: #71 Killgore Trout

I'm not happy about it but I can't offer a serious opinion on the constitutionality. I think national elections should be run on a fixed budget but that's just a personal opinion.

But why aren't you happy about it?

Daniel Ballard Sun, Jul 22, 2012 5:00:02pm

re: #69 Stanley Sea

Hi there!
I trust you had a good time in LA?

Kragar Sun, Jul 22, 2012 5:04:57pm

Penn State removes Paterno’s statue from outside Beaver Stadium

Sheila Broflovski Sun, Jul 22, 2012 5:04:58pm

re: #66 Millicent Islam

Hey cutie! how ARE you? I meant to email you today but couldn't. Hope you're well!

I found this just for you!

Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sun, Jul 22, 2012 5:07:11pm

re: #79 Daniel Ballard

Hi there!
I trust you had a good time in LA?

Yah! Glad you saw my post. I was spitting distance from your weekday - I think. It was awesome. These peeps probably spent 100K for their roller derby (yes, really) daughter and her sweet car club husband. We had a great time, drank all the free booze to excess. Hope the newlyweds are happy!

Daniel Ballard Sun, Jul 22, 2012 5:11:08pm

re: #82 Stanley Sea

Best wishes to the couple!

Grab my email for next time you are in LA. Drop a note anytime.

palomino Sun, Jul 22, 2012 5:11:44pm

re: #80 Kragar

Penn State removes Paterno’s statue from outside Beaver Stadium

Good. It's just not a smart idea to have that statue around anymore. As long as it stands there, it will just elicit the same response from some students, faculty and most visitors to the campus: "Oh, there's that jackass football coach who protected his child rapist buddy and covered up his crimes for so many years." Not really the kind of thoughts you want to encourage on campus and as a representation of your school.

Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Jul 22, 2012 5:14:45pm

re: #80 Kragar

Penn State removes Paterno’s statue from outside Beaver Stadium

Painful, maybe but the right thing to do.

The message is that doing the right thing is more important than winning.

Kragar Sun, Jul 22, 2012 5:18:00pm

GOP makes room for Rep. Ron Paul at Tampa convention

Targetpractice Sun, Jul 22, 2012 5:18:23pm

re: #80 Kragar

Penn State removes Paterno’s statue from outside Beaver Stadium

Was reading earlier that the NCAA's finally gotten off its ass and is gonna come down hard on Penn State tomorrow. Supposedly short of the "death penalty," but still being reported as "unprecedented."

Targetpractice Sun, Jul 22, 2012 5:20:21pm

re: #86 Kragar

GOP makes room for Rep. Ron Paul at Tampa convention

They'll give him a rally, but no way they're gonna give Crazy Uncle Liberty a speaking spot at the convention itself.

jaunte Sun, Jul 22, 2012 5:20:46pm

re: #86 Kragar

In an interview with the Fox Business network last week, Paul — who is no longer actively campaigning for president but has not officially suspended his bid — said he had "not made a decision" whether he'll vote for Romney in November.

The suspense is killing me.

MittDoesNotCompute Sun, Jul 22, 2012 5:20:48pm

re: #7 sattv4u2

Space: the final frontier
These are the voyages of the starship Enterprise
Its ~~5 year~~ ongoing mission
To explore strange new worlds
To seek out new life forms and new civilizations
To boldly go where ~~no man~~ no one has gone before

FTFY, as it should be ;-P

Kronocide Sun, Jul 22, 2012 5:22:18pm

re: #86 Kragar

GOP makes room for Rep. Ron Paul at Tampa convention

Big Tents!

Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sun, Jul 22, 2012 5:22:20pm

re: #87 Targetpractice

Was reading earlier that the NCAA's finally gotten off its ass and is gonna come down hard on Penn State tomorrow. Supposedly short of the "death penalty," but still being reported as "unprecedented."

The whole thing is how this genius defensive coordinator suddenly retired. Because JoPa et al, found out he was a pedophile, and made him just go away.

They were culpable, and this whole pushback, is just.

PhillyPretzel Sun, Jul 22, 2012 5:28:06pm

This is what I just read about Penn State. [Link: sports.yahoo.com...]

compound_Idaho Sun, Jul 22, 2012 5:31:45pm

re: #85 Mostly sane, most of the time.

Painful, maybe but the right thing to do.

The message is that doing the right thing is more important than winning.

What do you do with a used statue? Sell it on EBAY?

Kragar Sun, Jul 22, 2012 5:32:33pm

re: #94 compound_Idaho

What do you do with a used statue? Sell it on EBAY?

Melt it down for slag

Kronocide Sun, Jul 22, 2012 5:34:32pm

re: #94 compound_Idaho

What do you do with a used statue? Sell it on EBAY?

Melt it into cell door bars for Sandusky.

Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sun, Jul 22, 2012 5:35:34pm

re: #96 Kronocide

Melt it into cell door bars for Sandusky.

Auction it off, give the $ to the victims.

MittDoesNotCompute Sun, Jul 22, 2012 5:37:25pm

re: #80 Kragar

Penn State removes Paterno’s statue from outside Beaver Stadium

Apologies to the sculptor, but I hope they melt that fucking statue down and recycle it so that no one can claim a souvenir of the major clusterfuck that JoePa came to represent.

As for what the NCAA is going to do to Penn State, them giving the "death penalty" to the Penn State football program would be very satisfying, though it probably won't happen from what I've heard. I'd feel bad for the players, but if any of them have any sense, they wouldn't want to play for a program with so much negative baggage anyway and would be looking for a transfer out, IMO.

Targetpractice Sun, Jul 22, 2012 5:43:55pm

re: #98 TedStriker

Apologies to the sculptor, but I hope they melt that fucking statue down and recycle it so that no one can claim a souvenir of the major clusterfuck that JoePa came to represent.

As for what the NCAA is going to do to Penn State, them giving the "death penalty" to the Penn State football program would be very satisfying, though it probably won't happen from what I've heard. I'd feel bad for the players, but if any of them have any sense, they wouldn't want to play for a program with so much negative baggage anyway and would be looking for a transfer out, IMO.

If the article Philly linked to is any indication, tomorrow's gonna be a painful day for Penn State:

Sources say the school will continue to field a team. However, it will deal with heavy scholarship losses over the next three-to-five years as well as a multiyear ban in postseason competition and multimillion dollar financial penalties.

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MittDoesNotCompute Sun, Jul 22, 2012 5:44:06pm

re: #94 compound_Idaho

What do you do with a used statue? Sell it on EBAY?

re: #96 Kronocide

Melt it into cell door bars for Sandusky.

No, melt it down and cast it into a sarcophagus...then put Sandusky in it and lower it into a deep, dark hole.

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Mattand Sun, Jul 22, 2012 5:45:07pm

re: #86 Kragar

GOP makes room for Rep. Ron Paul at Tampa convention

"Ron, don't think of it as a broom closet; think of it as an opportunity to create within a limited boundary."

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PhillyPretzel Sun, Jul 22, 2012 5:46:24pm

re: #99 Targetpractice

I am not a Penn State fan but I will like a lot of Pennsylvanians will be following this story. It is going to be very bad. And my sister wanted my nephew to go to Penn State. He is going to Georgia Tech.

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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sun, Jul 22, 2012 5:48:29pm

re: #102 PhillyPretzel

I am not a Penn State fan but I will like a lot of Pennsylvanians will be following this story. It is going to be very bad. And my sister wanted my nephew to go to Penn State. He is going to Georgia Tech.

Like 6 of my cousins went there. My uncle & aunt attend the same parish as JoPa. I have not discussed this with them. I think my one cousin played for Penn State under Sandusky. awful.

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Targetpractice Sun, Jul 22, 2012 5:48:50pm

re: #102 PhillyPretzel

I am not a Penn State fan but I will like a lot of Pennsylvanians will be following this story. It is going to be very bad. And my sister wanted my nephew to go to Penn State. He is going to Georgia Tech.

It's going to be bad, but unfortunately it has to be bad. If the NCAA doesn't take action or just gives the school a slap on the wrist, then the precedent it sets is that a school can cover up the most heinous, most disgusting shit if it might make the school look bad were it to become public.

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Mattand Sun, Jul 22, 2012 5:49:09pm

re: #102 PhillyPretzel

I am not a Penn State fan but I will like a lot of Pennsylvanians will be following this story. It is going to be very bad. And my sister wanted my nephew to go to Penn State. He is going to Georgia Tech.

I was talking with someone today about this, and they felt it was unfair that the punishment will have economic consequences for people who weren't directly involved. I was like, "Yeah, but Paterno looked the other way while kids got raped."

Not surprisingly, my argument was barely acknowledged.

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MittDoesNotCompute Sun, Jul 22, 2012 6:00:26pm

re: #105 Mattand

I was talking with someone today about this, and they felt it was unfair that the punishment will have economic consequences for people who weren't directly involved. I was like, "Yeah, but Paterno looked the other way while kids got raped."

Not surprisingly, my argument was barely acknowledged.

It's awfully ironic...in JoePa's twisted logic, he covered up Sandusky's deeds to supposedly save the university pain and embarassment (not to mention, to salve his own ego, no doubt).

However, in the end, what JoePa did to cover for (and, some say, outright enable) Sandusky over the years has led to the utter destruction of his legacy and the reputations of himself, of the Penn State football program, and of the university itself, as well as all of Sandusky's victims that suffered since the bastard was caught in 1998 and shuffled out the door.

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Targetpractice Sun, Jul 22, 2012 6:03:43pm

re: #106 TedStriker

It's awfully ironic...in JoePa's twisted logic, he covered up Sandusky's deeds to supposedly save the university pain and embarassment (not to mention, to salve his own ego, no doubt).

However, in the end, what JoePa did to cover for (and, some say, outright enable) Sandusky over the years has led to the utter destruction of his legacy and the reputations of himself, of the Penn State football program, and of the university itself, as well as all of Sandusky's victims that suffered since the bastard was caught in 1998 and shuffled out the door.

I really don't understand what was going through his mind all these years. Did he honestly believe that, if they kept a lid on it until Sandusky either stopped or was dead, nobody would ever come forward? Nobody would ever speak up and demand to know why Penn State sat by and did nothing? Was he really that egotistical to believe that his keeping quiet was ever going to do more than just delay the inevitable?

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MittDoesNotCompute Sun, Jul 22, 2012 6:18:30pm

re: #107 Targetpractice

I really don't understand what was going through his mind all these years. Did he honestly believe that, if they kept a lid on it until Sandusky either stopped or was dead, nobody would ever come forward? Nobody would ever speak up and demand to know why Penn State sat by and did nothing? Was he really that egotistical to believe that his keeping quiet was ever going to do more than just delay the inevitable?

It had to be JoePa's ego that wouldn't allow him to notify outside agencies in the 1998 incident(s) and that caused staff to fear for their jobs if they reported other incidents (see the janitors that Freeh referenced). He thought he could maintain complete control of the situation and that'd be the end of that, but it wasn't, as we know now.

Another irony of the whole thing is that if Paterno and the Penn State higher-ups had followed what has been standard practice for many years for suspected child abuse, Sandusky would have been rotting in jail for more than a decade (and wouldn't have had more victims) and Paterno would have done the right thing and been remembered as a hero.

Instead, JoePa will be remembered as a craven, cowardly control freak who put his football program over the welfare of minor children who were being sexually victimized by his one-time heir apparent...and destroying his personal legacy and that of the program he built over decades.

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palomino Sun, Jul 22, 2012 6:50:43pm

re: #94 compound_Idaho

What do you do with a used statue? Sell it on EBAY?

They ought to burn it. Then make a statue of Sandusky...and burn that too.

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Shropshire_Slasher Mon, Jul 23, 2012 4:58:00am

Wow.
Just friggin wow.
Thanks Charles.

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Destro Mon, Jul 23, 2012 1:09:02pm

re: #15 sattv4u2

It should have ended with Kirk in a hospital trying to recover from his penis turning green!!!
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Star Trek Generations should have been about Kirk taking on the time traveling Borg - being assimilated by the Borg like Picard was (and we could see him bald) and then using his "I am Kirok!" iron will to make the Borg self destruct as a finale showing Picard how it's done.

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