New Obama Web Ad: Stephanie Cutter on Romney’s Blatant Dishonesty
Mitt Romney is not telling the truth about what the President said
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Kragar Tue, Jul 24, 2012 11:27:44am |
Romney, RNC: We Did Obama A Favor By Taking Him Out Of Context!
Obama, they insist, should be happy that Republicans selectively edited his speech, because the full context of the president’s remarks on business and government is actually worse.
Romney made this case himself on CNBC Monday night.
“The context is worse than the quote,” Romney said in an exchange with Larry Kudlow. “The context, he says, ‘you know, you think you’ve been successful because you’re smart, but he says a lot of people are smart. You think you’ve been successful because you work hard, a lot of people work hard.’”
Romney returned to the central line of attack — the out-of-context quote that has become a centerpiece of his campaign: that Obama is essentially anti-individual achievement.
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blueraven Tue, Jul 24, 2012 11:28:34am |
Re-posted from downstairs and more relevant here
Romney is making a foreign policy speech right now to the VFW and is accusing Obama of leaking sensitive classified security secrets.
He also lied saying the 2 special counsels appointed to investigate the leaks are Obama appointees, when in fact one of them is a Bush appointee.
His FP adviser Dan Senor said the same thing earlier on Andrea Mitchell. I was so mad that she didn't call him on it. But then at the end of the interview she did correct him.
Romney's entire campaign is built on a bunch of lies. They are shameless.
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The Ghost of a Flea Tue, Jul 24, 2012 11:30:34am |
Romney, RNC: We Did Obama A Favor By Taking Him Out Of Context!
Obama, they insist, should be happy that Republicans selectively edited his speech, because the full context of the president’s remarks on business and government is actually worse.
Romney made this case himself on CNBC Monday night.
“The context is worse than the quote,” Romney said in an exchange with Larry Kudlow. “The context, he says, ‘you know, you think you’ve been successful because you’re smart, but he says a lot of people are smart. You think you’ve been successful because you work hard, a lot of people work hard.’”
That's an imaginative take on the "context."
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Charles Johnson Tue, Jul 24, 2012 11:30:45am |
re: #2 blueraven
Re-posted from downstairs and more relevant here
I've never seen a presidential candidate lie as much as Mitt Romney does. I'm not talking about stretching the truth or spinning, I mean outright, in your face lying.
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Targetpractice Tue, Jul 24, 2012 11:31:05am |
Well of course Romney understands how the economy works! Rich people create jobs, end of story! Has a poor person ever given you a job?!
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erik_t Tue, Jul 24, 2012 11:31:27am |
re: #1 Kragar
Romney made this case himself on CNBC Monday night.
“The context is worse than the quote,” Romney said in an exchange with Larry Kudlow. “The context, he says, ‘you know, you think you’ve been successful because you’re smart, but he says a lot of people are smart. You think you’ve been successful because you work hard, a lot of people work hard.’”
The Big Reveal is... that Obama doesn't think you're each a special little snowflake? When did the GOP become synonymous with that sort of pedantic ego-stroking? I thought they claimed to be all about hard work and bootstraps.
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Blizard Tue, Jul 24, 2012 11:33:41am |
re: #4 Charles Johnson
There are enough people who have bought into the lies already, we are past the point of no return. As in at least 2 generations past the point of no return.
Ugh.
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blueraven Tue, Jul 24, 2012 11:34:55am |
re: #4 Charles Johnson
I've never seen a presidential candidate lie as much as Mitt Romney does. I'm not talking about stretching the truth or spinning, I mean outright, in your face lying.
I am pissed that the media is not calling them out more about this.
They are a bunch of limp wusses.
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Charles Johnson Tue, Jul 24, 2012 11:34:58am |
Somebody programmed the Romneybot to get more animated as he approaches the end of a speech. Looks amazingly life-like.— Charles Johnson (@Lizardoid) July 24, 2012
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Tue, Jul 24, 2012 11:37:53am |
re: #4 Charles Johnson
when you have an entire "News" network built on the idea of stretching and distorting the truth then it's easy to make the final leap to outright lying and having people believe it. Sadly the rest of the media is complicit because they don't have the testicular fortitude to call him what he is, a bald-faced shiftless liar.
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jaunte Tue, Jul 24, 2012 11:38:30am |
re: #6 erik_t
The Big Reveal is... that Obama doesn't think you're each a special little snowflake? When did the GOP become synonymous with that sort of pedantic ego-stroking? I thought they claimed to be all about hard work and bootstraps.
Reliable political suckup line: tell the voters about how special they are, how God watches what they do approvingly, how hard they've worked, how strong they pulled their own bootstraps.
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Targetpractice Tue, Jul 24, 2012 11:40:41am |
re: #6 erik_t
The Big Reveal is... that Obama doesn't think you're each a special little snowflake? When did the GOP become synonymous with that sort of pedantic ego-stroking? I thought they claimed to be all about hard work and bootstraps.
Rather, how the rich are all special little snowflakes, who like real snowflakes, are amazingly fragile and melt quickly in the heat of anything but the coldest of tax climes. So we must nurture them and protect them, because one day we might possibly be rich too.
Oh, and they all totally formed on their own, no help whatsoever, and we should celebrate that rather than acknowledging that everything from the cold weather to the condensation in the clouds allowed them to form.
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Kragar Tue, Jul 24, 2012 11:42:24am |
DAMN YOU, LAST WEEK ROMNEY!
Romney Agrees With Obama: Government Does ‘Help You In A Business’
ROMNEY: I know that you recognize a lot of people help you in a business. Perhaps the bank, the investors. There is no question your mom and dad, your school teachers. The people who provide roads, the fire, the police. A lot of people help. But let me ask you this. Did you build your business? If you did, raise your hand. Take that Mr. President! This is what’s happening in this country. These people are entrepreneurs.
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erik_t Tue, Jul 24, 2012 11:44:10am |
re: #13 Kragar
DAMN YOU, LAST WEEK ROMNEY!
Romney Agrees With Obama: Government Does ‘Help You In A Business’
Government only helps you retroactively. You get there by yourself.
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b_sharp Tue, Jul 24, 2012 11:46:58am |
"The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together. "
Obama speech at Roanoke Fire Station #1.
This statement seems to be missing from the GOP's narrative.
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b_sharp Tue, Jul 24, 2012 11:48:20am |
re: #13 Kragar
DAMN YOU, LAST WEEK ROMNEY!
Romney Agrees With Obama: Government Does ‘Help You In A Business’
Too many Romneys, not enough consistent honesty.
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dragonfire1981 Tue, Jul 24, 2012 11:51:25am |
Romney's entire campaign is built on a bunch of lies. .
Edited for accuracy.
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prairiefire Tue, Jul 24, 2012 11:52:03am |
Chomp into that pork chop and don't let go! Referring to this issue, not Ms Cutter.
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Targetpractice Tue, Jul 24, 2012 11:52:11am |
And awhile back, he was telling folks that you could just borrow $20,000 from your folks to start your own business. Guess that doesn't qualify as "help" either.
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b_sharp Tue, Jul 24, 2012 11:55:02am |
re: #20 Targetpractice
And awhile back, he was telling folks that you could just borrow $20,000 from your folks to start your own business. Guess that doesn't qualify as "help" either.
Not if it gets paid back!!1!
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Killgore Trout Tue, Jul 24, 2012 11:55:45am |
Are they really going to release 2-3 new ads everyday or is this just the backlog from last week when they decided to take a break for the Colorado shooting?
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Varek Raith Tue, Jul 24, 2012 11:57:20am |
re: #9 Charles Johnson
[Embedded content]
The Japanese are expert roboticists.
Which makes Mitt an illegal!
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b_sharp Tue, Jul 24, 2012 11:57:58am |
re: #23 Varek Raith
The Japanese are expert roboticists.
Which makes Mitt an illegal!
An illegal what?
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Varek Raith Tue, Jul 24, 2012 11:58:24am |
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blueraven Tue, Jul 24, 2012 11:59:29am |
re: #22 Killgore Trout
Are they really going to release 2-3 new ads everyday or is this just the backlog from last week when they decided to take a break for the Colorado shooting?
I hope they continue calling out the lies of Mitt Romney. As long as he keeps providing them material, they should keep this up.
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b_sharp Tue, Jul 24, 2012 12:01:23pm |
re: #26 blueraven
I hope they continue calling out the lies of Mitt Romney. As long as he keeps providing them material, they should keep this up.
I don't think the Obama campaign management is stupid.
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Targetpractice Tue, Jul 24, 2012 12:02:53pm |
re: #23 Varek Raith
The Japanese are expert roboticists.
Which makes Mitt an illegal!
Come now, Willard's not from Japan. I distinctly remember seeing the Cyberdyne Systems logo on the back of his neck.
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Varek Raith Tue, Jul 24, 2012 12:03:21pm |
re: #28 Targetpractice
Come now, Willard's not from Japan. I distinctly remember seeing the Cyberdyne Systems logo on the back of his neck.
/
OCP.
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Varek Raith Tue, Jul 24, 2012 12:04:50pm |
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Jack Burton Tue, Jul 24, 2012 12:05:10pm |
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The Ghost of a Flea Tue, Jul 24, 2012 12:06:50pm |
re: #30 Kragar
Weyland Yutani.
Romney and "More Human than Human" really don't go together.
At very least he's a Nexus-4 or earlier model.
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Jack Burton Tue, Jul 24, 2012 12:07:58pm |
re: #37 The Ghost of a Flea
Romney and "More Human than Human" really don't go together.
At very least he's a Nexus-4 or earlier model.
He's more like David from Prometheus. You just know something isn't right even before he says anything.
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Targetpractice Tue, Jul 24, 2012 12:08:19pm |
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Kragar Tue, Jul 24, 2012 12:09:03pm |
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Jack Burton Tue, Jul 24, 2012 12:09:23pm |
re: #40 Targetpractice
Sarif Industries
I bought that game when it first came out and have yet to try it.
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Kragar Tue, Jul 24, 2012 12:09:30pm |
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leftynyc Tue, Jul 24, 2012 12:09:34pm |
re: #22 Killgore Trout
Are they really going to release 2-3 new ads everyday or is this just the backlog from last week when they decided to take a break for the Colorado shooting?
How about an ad for every single lie romeny tells? Fortunately for him, there aren't enough hours in the day.
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The Ghost of a Flea Tue, Jul 24, 2012 12:09:41pm |
re: #39 ArchangelMichael
He's more like David from Prometheus. You just know something isn't right even before he says anything.
The replicants are just the right height.
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Targetpractice Tue, Jul 24, 2012 12:10:14pm |
re: #42 ArchangelMichael
I bought that game when it first came out and have yet to try it.
That's alright, I got 'bout halfway and still haven't finished it.
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Kragar Tue, Jul 24, 2012 12:10:15pm |
re: #42 ArchangelMichael
I bought that game when it first came out and have yet to try it.
Got it on sale, played the first zone and hated it.
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Varek Raith Tue, Jul 24, 2012 12:11:16pm |
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Kragar Tue, Jul 24, 2012 12:15:16pm |
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Varek Raith Tue, Jul 24, 2012 12:16:08pm |
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Mattand Tue, Jul 24, 2012 12:16:55pm |
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Targetpractice Tue, Jul 24, 2012 12:18:21pm |
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Kragar Tue, Jul 24, 2012 12:18:38pm |
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Jack Burton Tue, Jul 24, 2012 12:18:53pm |
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Targetpractice Tue, Jul 24, 2012 12:20:09pm |
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freetoken Tue, Jul 24, 2012 12:25:47pm |
Chait takes on what is to me one of Romney's worse flaws:
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The Ghost of a Flea Tue, Jul 24, 2012 12:26:37pm |
How super PACs are saving Mitt Romney
Roughly 80 percent of all ad spending by Republicans on the general election has come from these super PACs, as Romney has expended a relatively meager $35 million to date on ads in swing states, according to ad buy figures provided to the Fix by a GOP media buyer.
By contrast, the $20 million that Democratic super PACs have spent on ads so far in the general election accounts for just 19 percent of total ad spending on the Democratic side.
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But, wait, there’s more.
Republican outside groups have spent seven times as much as their Democratic counterparts on ads so far in the general election. In fact, the two-pronged American Crossroads (a super PAC) and Crossroads GPS (a 501c4) have spent in excess of $94 million on TV ads — approximately five times as much as Democratic super PACs have spent combined. And that $94 million is roughly two and a half times more than Romney himself has spent on ads in the general election to date.
Taken together, the Romney campaign and the panoply of Republican outside groups have spent $179 million on swing state advertising so far in the general election, while Obama and his aligned outside groups have shelled out $128 million.
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Targetpractice Tue, Jul 24, 2012 12:28:12pm |
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Kragar Tue, Jul 24, 2012 12:32:37pm |
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dragonfire1981 Tue, Jul 24, 2012 12:35:27pm |
re: #59 The Ghost of a Flea
It's like I said earlier, 2012 will provide an interesting case study on whether it really is possible to "Buy" the Presidency.
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Varek Raith Tue, Jul 24, 2012 12:38:24pm |
re: #61 Kragar
Stewart to Chick-fil-A president: “You’re being such an asshole, not even Boston will tolerate you.”
HAHAHAHAHA
"Eat Mor Cok"
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Varek Raith Tue, Jul 24, 2012 12:42:32pm |
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Kragar Tue, Jul 24, 2012 12:42:55pm |
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boredtechindenver Tue, Jul 24, 2012 12:49:22pm |
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Targetpractice Tue, Jul 24, 2012 12:50:53pm |
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Kragar Tue, Jul 24, 2012 12:51:01pm |
Just when I think I've heard the dumbest idea ever, someone comes along and tops it.
Virtual war: Jeanne Shaheen vs. Glenn Beck
Glenn Beck and Sen. Jeanne Shaheen (D-N.H.) — polar opposites on the political scale — are set to “Thunderclap” on Tuesday and part of the point, it seems, is to see who’s got the most “thunderclapping” fans.
“Thunderclapping,” is technology that encourages the online masses to repeat the same message via Twitter and Facebook, at the same time (“crowd-speaking” is the technical term for it).
And the Beck vs. Shaheen match is being billed by De-De, which runs the Thunderclap platform, as the first “social media duel.”
Wouldn't a thunderdome be vastly more entertaining?
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dragonfire1981 Tue, Jul 24, 2012 12:52:23pm |
re: #68 Kragar
Just when I think I've heard the dumbest idea ever, someone comes along and tops it.
Virtual war: Jeanne Shaheen vs. Glenn Beck
Wouldn't a thunderdome be vastly more entertaining?
And more profitable, most likely.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Tue, Jul 24, 2012 12:53:28pm |
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Targetpractice Tue, Jul 24, 2012 12:53:34pm |
re: #68 Kragar
Just when I think I've heard the dumbest idea ever, someone comes along and tops it.
Virtual war: Jeanne Shaheen vs. Glenn Beck
Wouldn't a thunderdome be vastly more entertaining?
Can't we get beyond thunderdome?
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Four More Tears Tue, Jul 24, 2012 12:53:56pm |
Bright side: real estate in Greenland will be so much more lucrative without all of that ice covering it up.
Greenland Ice Melt, Measured By NASA Satellites, Reaches Unprecedented Level
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Kragar Tue, Jul 24, 2012 12:54:29pm |
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Targetpractice Tue, Jul 24, 2012 12:55:34pm |
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Big Steve Tue, Jul 24, 2012 12:56:53pm |
For all you Mitt lovers out there......Mitt in jeans
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Tue, Jul 24, 2012 12:57:02pm |
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Targetpractice Tue, Jul 24, 2012 12:58:31pm |
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Four More Tears Tue, Jul 24, 2012 12:59:05pm |
re: #76 Temporarily Embarrassed Millionaire
Aperture Science
Umbrella Corp.
Another explanation for him having the personality of a block of wood.
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Schadenfreude 'r' Us Tue, Jul 24, 2012 1:03:07pm |
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erik_t Tue, Jul 24, 2012 1:05:44pm |
re: #75 Big Steve
For all you Mitt lovers out there...Mitt in jeans
This guy thinks his strongest current attack is to call Obama a weird not-really-American regular guy.
I don't give a shit about how Romney looks in jeans, but there is certainly some humor to it.
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Four More Tears Tue, Jul 24, 2012 1:10:29pm |
Romney defends Obama's record...
If the first six months don't count...
Mitt Romney sat down with CNBC's Larry Kudlow, and made a curious observation. He said voters who want a strong economy should vote for him, but Americans "ought to give, whichever president is going to be elected, at least six months or a year to get those policies in place."
...But look what happens when we start the clock, as Romney suggests, six months to a year after President Obama was sworn in. In fact, if we don't hold Obama's first year against him, the economy has added over 3.7 million jobs overall during his presidency, and over 4.2 million in the private sector.
That's not the count by my standard; that's the count by Romney's standard.
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Eventual Carrion Tue, Jul 24, 2012 1:14:03pm |
re: #83 Mocking Jay
Romney defends Obama's record...
I believe a newly elected, 1st term president is working with the last presidents budget the first year they are in office.
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Hercules Grytpype-Thynne Tue, Jul 24, 2012 1:14:11pm |
re: #83 Mocking Jay
Romney defends Obama's record...
See, this is the reason Mitt lies. If he can't lie, he's got nothing.
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dragonath Tue, Jul 24, 2012 1:14:17pm |
re: #72 Mocking Jay
Bright side: real estate in Greenland will be so much more lucrative without all of that ice covering it up.
Greenland Ice Melt, Measured By NASA Satellites, Reaches Unprecedented Level
One of the overlooked aspects of the Bush Administration is how they were encouraging Greenland's sovereignity from Denmark a few years ago. It's much easier to cut a deal for oil rights with a small 50,000 people nation than it is with the Danish government.
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Romantic Heretic Tue, Jul 24, 2012 1:15:42pm |
re: #4 Charles Johnson
I've never seen a presidential candidate lie as much as Mitt Romney does. I'm not talking about stretching the truth or spinning, I mean outright, in your face lying.
The great masses of the people are more easily taken in by a big lie than a small one. - Herman Göering
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b_sharp Tue, Jul 24, 2012 1:18:50pm |
re: #87 Romantic Heretic
The great masses of the people are more easily taken in by a big lie than a small one. - Herman Göering
Now you've done it, the thread has been Godwinned.
Where's the cleanup crew?
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Kragar Tue, Jul 24, 2012 1:19:24pm |
Ocean Drone Captures Sea Garbage like a Butterfly Net
The world’s oceans are filled with human-generated pollution, particularly plastics – just read about the Great Pacific Garbage Patch to get a general idea about the scope of the problem. Industrial designer Elie Ahovi says he has a solution to the problem. He, along with a team of designers, drew up a concept marine drone designed to capture garbage in the ocean without harming marine life.
The Drone 1-001-1 concept features a steel body construction with composite materials for strength and lightweight operation. Its battery-powered motors are quiet and efficient. Ahovi estimates the drone could remain submerged for about two weeks before needing a charge.
The ocean drone uses an infrasound system to help it navigate away from schools of fish and larger underwater objects. This system emits a sound that irritates fish and other sea creatures helping to keep them from entering into the drone’s netting.
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Romantic Heretic Tue, Jul 24, 2012 1:21:24pm |
re: #45 The Ghost of a Flea
The replicants are just the right height.
Except replicants show more emotion than the Romneybot.
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Mattand Tue, Jul 24, 2012 1:22:24pm |
re: #75 Big Steve
For all you Mitt lovers out there...Mitt in jeans
As I get devoured by middle age, I get worried that that is what I look like in jeans now.
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Mattand Tue, Jul 24, 2012 1:22:42pm |
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Killgore Trout Tue, Jul 24, 2012 1:24:57pm |
re: #91 Mattand
As I get devoured by middle age, I get worried that that is what I look like in jeans now.
I went to two grocery stores this morning. One cashier asked my birthdate for buying wine. The other called me "kiddo". Not sure if looking extra old or extra young today.
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Tue, Jul 24, 2012 1:25:12pm |
Just saw on MSNBC that Romney called Obama corrupt in his speech, listened to the play back and this isn't a "santorum N moment" he said corrupt.
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Vicious Babushka Tue, Jul 24, 2012 1:25:32pm |
Some blogger (not Pam, I'll let you guess) has found a link between James Holmes and radical Islamists!1!ty
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Mattand Tue, Jul 24, 2012 1:25:49pm |
re: #93 Killgore Trout
I went to two grocery stores this morning. One cashier asked my birthdate for buying wine. The other called me "kiddo". Not sure if looking extra old or extra young today.
Don't question, just roll with it.
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erik_t Tue, Jul 24, 2012 1:25:56pm |
re: #94 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance
Just saw on MSNBC that Romney called Obama corrupt in his speech, listened to the play back and this isn't a "santorum N moment" he said corrupt.
Roveriffic.
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Romantic Heretic Tue, Jul 24, 2012 1:26:38pm |
re: #67 Targetpractice
Whoa, talk 'bout old school cyberpunk.
To me old school cyberpunk is James H. Schmitz. Gibson was a newcomer on the scene to me.
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Four More Tears Tue, Jul 24, 2012 1:28:10pm |
re: #94 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance
Just saw on MSNBC that Romney called Obama corrupt in his speech, listened to the play back and this isn't a "santorum N moment" he said corrupt.
Show us tax returns, then talk.
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Varek Raith Tue, Jul 24, 2012 1:30:01pm |
re: #93 Killgore Trout
I went to two grocery stores this morning. One cashier asked my birthdate for buying wine. The other called me "kiddo". Not sure if looking extra old or extra young today.
Should've said,
Aww shucks mister/ma'am.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Jul 24, 2012 1:35:32pm |
re: #100 Varek Raith
Should've said,
Aww shucks mister/ma'am.
I always address women as Ma'am. Don't know where I picked up the habit.
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Romantic Heretic Tue, Jul 24, 2012 1:37:29pm |
Getting serious here, but if I was American my biggest complaint about Romney is that he isn't American.
I don't mean I'm some sort of opposite Birther who think Romney wasn't born in the States. I mean it is obvious to me that his loyalty lies not with his country but with his class. That class of people that exists in a society of money that is not connected to any nation.
When George Ludwig, Elector of Hanover, became George I of Great Britain he used England's power mostly in the service of Hanover. In the same manner if Romney becomes President he will use the power of the United States mostly in the service of those he holds his loyalty to.
That would not be good.
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lawhawk Tue, Jul 24, 2012 1:38:46pm |
re: #95 Learned Mother of Zion
Debbie Schussel. She thinks that the link is use/abuse of federal grants in aid?
Seriously?
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erik_t Tue, Jul 24, 2012 1:39:03pm |
I have been critical of the President’s decision to withdraw the surge troops [in Afghanistan] during the fighting season, against the advice of the commanders on the ground. President Obama would have you believe that anyone who disagrees with his decisions is arguing for endless war. But the route to more war – and to potential attacks here at home – is a politically timed retreat.
As president, my goal in Afghanistan will be to complete a successful transition to Afghan security forces by the end of 2014.
Literally the next sentence.
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brennant Tue, Jul 24, 2012 1:41:30pm |
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Hercules Grytpype-Thynne Tue, Jul 24, 2012 1:43:20pm |
re: #104 erik_t
Literally the next sentence.
But clearly that wouldn't be a politically timed retreat. It would be timed by something else. Perhaps the RomneyBot's internal CPU clock.
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Targetpractice Tue, Jul 24, 2012 1:44:02pm |
re: #104 erik_t
Literally the next sentence.
It's the "read between the lines" bit, as usual with Willard. He's not saying he'll have all the troops out, he's just saying he'll turn things over the Afghan military. But you can be sure we'll have troops over there, and there will be plenty of excuses prior to and after 2014 about how we can't bring them home because the military's not sure the Afghans can handle it on their own.
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The Ghost of a Flea Tue, Jul 24, 2012 1:44:15pm |
re: #105 brennant
Uh, what?
Romney is dinging Obama's policy and implying that it weakens us.
And in the next sentence he's saying he's sticking to the drawdown schedule that Obama set.
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brennant Tue, Jul 24, 2012 1:45:16pm |
re: #108 The Ghost of a Flea
Did someone not proof his speech?
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erik_t Tue, Jul 24, 2012 1:46:14pm |
re: #104 erik_t
Literally the next sentence.
Also, Jesus, Mitt. Most style guides killed the post-period double-space in the 1980s. Do you have a single employee under 40? Just one?
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Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Jul 24, 2012 1:46:34pm |
re: #109 brennant
Did someone not proof his speech?
It's like he is debating himself within the speech. I await Morbo to ask whether the Romneybot would take candy from a human infant.
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Kragar Tue, Jul 24, 2012 1:51:11pm |
Truck-ception
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erik_t Tue, Jul 24, 2012 1:52:43pm |
re: #112 Kragar
Truck-ception
Yo dawg, I heard you like trucks, so I put a truck on your truck so you can truck while you truck.
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goddamnedfrank Tue, Jul 24, 2012 1:56:46pm |
re: #110 erik_t
Also, Jesus, Mitt. Most style guides killed the post-period double-space in the 1980s. Do you have a single employee under 40? Just one?
Hey, I'm under 40 (just) and I learned to type on an IBM Selectric in middle school, and double spaces between sentences were de rigueur. Of course my teacher was old. I only learned about the new style when I was forced to use the CMOS for my master's thesis.
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Four More Tears Tue, Jul 24, 2012 1:58:28pm |
re: #114 goddamnedfrank
Hey, I'm under 40 (just) and I learned to type on an IBM Selectric in middle school, and double spaces between sentences were de rigueur. Of course my teacher was old. I only learned about the new style when I was forced to use the CMOS for my master's thesis.
I'm in my mid 30's and I still have to make an effort to not double-space like the nuns taught me to.
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Hercules Grytpype-Thynne Tue, Jul 24, 2012 2:00:57pm |
re: #110 erik_t
Also, Jesus, Mitt. Most style guides killed the post-period double-space in the 1980s. Do you have a single employee under 40? Just one?
They have to have the older folks do the typing. They're the only ones who can spell.
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erik_t Tue, Jul 24, 2012 2:01:51pm |
re: #116 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne
They have to have the older folks do the typing. They're the only ones who can spell.
Ur not bein vry nice 2 us young ppl
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Mattand Tue, Jul 24, 2012 2:02:31pm |
re: #114 goddamnedfrank
Hey, I'm under 40 (just) and I learned to type on an IBM Selectric in middle school, and double spaces between sentences were de rigueur. Of course my teacher was old. I only learned about the new style when I was forced to use the CMOS for my master's thesis.
Slightly older but same story. Learned to double space after periods, but quickly ended it when I discovered it was no longer necessary.
Whenever I get a Word document that has to be imported to InDesign or Illustrator, first thing I do is a search-and-destroy for period-double space.
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Mattand Tue, Jul 24, 2012 2:03:06pm |
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TedStriker Tue, Jul 24, 2012 2:04:56pm |
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William Barnett-Lewis Tue, Jul 24, 2012 2:05:31pm |
re: #98 Romantic Heretic
To me old school cyberpunk is James H. Schmitz. Gibson was a newcomer on the scene to me.
Web of Angels by John M Ford
True Names by Vernor Vinge
Shockwave Rider by John Brunner
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b_sharp Tue, Jul 24, 2012 2:07:11pm |
re: #110 erik_t
Also, Jesus, Mitt. Most style guides killed the post-period double-space in the 1980s. Do you have a single employee under 40? Just one?
Questions from the Romneybot warehouse:
Since then, has the American economy recovered?
Wrong question given global conditions. What should be asked is it recovering.
The economy hasn't recovered, but neither has the global economy recovered. However the US economy is outperforming many European economies and is recovering from its 2008 low.
Has our ability to shape world events been enhanced, or diminished?
It has been enhanced 10 fold by the election of Obama. More countries are willing to support the US in global decisions than previously.
Have we gained greater confidence among our allies, and greater respect from our adversaries?
Greater confidence that the US will treat allies fairly and take their concerns seriously.
Enemies fear the weapons. Use them up on wasteful wars and the fear lessons. I doubt any enemies of the west believe the west is powerless.
And, perhaps most importantly, has the most severe security threat facing America and our friends, a nuclear-armed Iran, become more or less likely?
When did that become the new threat du jour, and what happened to the old threat? Iran has followed their own agenda and ignored the west. This is independent of who is in office.
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