1 darthstar  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 2:47:59pm

Truth in satire.

2 Targetpractice  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 2:49:53pm

re: #1 darthstar

Truth in satire.

No shit. They're doing everything they can to maintain this as a horse race up til Election Day.

3 darthstar  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 2:53:30pm

re: #2 Targetpractice

No shit. They're doing everything they can to maintain this as a horse race up til Election Day.

And the futility of their efforts is showing in Michigan and Pennsylvania where Obama's lead over Romney is solidifying, if anything. Double-digits in MI and PA is also widening - minority voter suppression is Mitt's only hope.

4 erik_t  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 2:54:42pm

re: #3 darthstar

But, but, but, national trendlines!

5 researchok  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 2:56:00pm

That's really funny.

6 freetoken  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 2:59:42pm

Love those "tweets".

7 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 3:00:08pm

Boykin Wonders if Obama is a Muslim Brotherhood Member


Jerry Boykins, dumbfuck extraordinaire, says Jeremiah Wright joined the Nation of Islam after college. The records I find show Wright joined the Marines after leaving college.

8 engineer cat  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 3:03:10pm

at this point it looks like the only hope mitt has to turn his campaign around might be to get caught in a compromising sexual situation

9 Mentis Fugit  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 3:06:37pm

re: #7 Amory Blaine

Boykin Wonders if Obama is a Muslim Brotherhood Member

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Jerry Boykins, dumbfuck extraordinaire, says Jeremiah Wright joined the Nation of Islam after college. The records I find show Wright joined the Marines after leaving college.

Marines, Muslims, the words have a lot of similarities. Start and end with the same letter, same length, both have an "i" in the middle. Easy to mix 'em up - IF YOU'RE A BLITHERING IMBECILE.

10 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 3:13:29pm

VOLTAIC!

11 freetoken  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 3:25:51pm

How quickly time flies when one is immersed in reading a subject... just spent an hour reading the last chapter in William Dever's Did God Have a Wife?: Archaeology and Folk Religion in Ancient Israel, and another hour skimming a couple of essays in Confronting the Past: Archaeological and Historical Essays on Ancient Israel in Honor of William G. Dever, all part of my long promised Page (now Pages, in rough draft) about "myths and men", which itself started out as a digression on tackling the topic of Did Jesus Exist? .... please pardon the multiple levels of digression here...

Anyway, something Dever wrote in Did God Have a Wife? struck me as being particularly relevant to the election, Mitt Romney, and President Obama.

Summarizing here: the androcentric religion that became the white (European) male dominant structure, which was indeed imposed (by force) onto many other parts of the world, fails ( in a perspective like that of Dever, now a non-traditional monotheist) at addressing the needs of the larger world. To Dever these needs of course are religious in nature, but I would expand and generalize that to any human need.

Mitt Romney, partly due to his Mormonism but even more so to his elite status as a controlling member of America Inc., is the representative of Androcentric Religion, the power of the male (white) to run mankind. Barack Obama represents, not just because of his Kenyan father but also because of his academic training and sympathies toward feminist worldviews, the anti-Androcentric Religion.

Because we often mention fundamentalists here, and their outlets like WND and the AFA, we often do analyze current social dynamics with religious tincture, but much of our main stream media, as it is called, tries hard to ignore the religious conflicts that are going on in our society.

Just as patristic religious leaders in late antiquity eviscerated official Jewish religion from its more feministic (and polytheistic) roots, and thus (in Dever's eyes) stripping away essential characteristics of the monotheistic God, so to our society, should it revert to the androcentric national-religion (typified perfectly in Mormon doctrine) will strip American society of essential characteristics of our composite populace.

Anyway... just a random thought on a sunny Tuesday afternoon.

12 researchok  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 3:33:57pm

re: #11 freetoken

Do you routinely stroll through minefields?
//

13 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 3:36:00pm

Satellites See Unprecedented Greenland Ice Sheet Surface Melt

It must be a muslim-marxist conspiracy or some other nonsense...

14 ArchangelMichael  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 3:37:29pm

re: #12 researchok

Do you routinely stroll through minefields?
//

"This is dangerous. Open up your head feel the shell shock.
This is dangerous. I walk the Onion Threads so watch your head rock."

- The Prodigy, "Minefields" LGF, "Onion Threads"

15 freetoken  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 3:42:29pm

re: #12 researchok

Karl Marx gots nothing on me.

16 wrenchwench  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 3:44:02pm

re: #11 freetoken

I had to read the last paragraph three times.

Is it still Tuesday?

OK, here's my real comment. Did we ever leave the androcentric national-religion? Regardless of his background, Obama is and has served in his presidency as a Christian. To whatever extent we had an androcentric national-religion, it seems pretty undisturbed.

17 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 3:45:02pm
18 freetoken  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 3:52:51pm

re: #16 wrenchwench

President Obama is more like a bridge, between what was and what may be.

In my view, the question is whether we look towards the future, or if in atavistic fashion we try to run backwards towards some (non-existent) idyl.

Earlier a I linked to a Chait piece about Romney not wanting to apologize, and now Romney for 4 years now has been accusing Obama of "apologizing" to other nations when, in Romney's eyes, the US has nothing for which to apologize.

Thus Romney knows how to play the strings of nationalism in the orchestra of America. He does this will full knowledge and planning, btw, because that is his best be to becoming the alpha male in a system that requires at least nominal group approval for someone to become the top dog.

So, while Obama is not really a total corrective to the androcentric national-religion, he's the most this nation has gone in that direction.

Which is why the fundamentalist wingnuts rant so much about Obama, and create such fantasies. Speaking of the latter, I see the latest OUTRAGE!! over at WND has something to do with a mysterious WEDDING RING!! Barack Obama was wearing, before he met Michelle. Yes, really.

Anyway, in their blind and ignorant fear the wingnuts do sense one tiny bit of reality - Obama is not one of them.

Fortunately, for the rest of us.

19 Kragar  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 3:56:33pm

Sherman Hemsley dead at 74

Actor Sherman Hemsley, best known for his role as George Jefferson on "All in the Family" and "The Jeffersons," has died at the age of 74 of natural causes at his home in El Paso, Texas. TMZ initially reported the news; it was later confirmed by People magazine.

20 moderatelyradicalliberal  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 4:01:15pm

Chik-Fil-A has decided that rather than admit that the Muppets won't work with them anymore because of their bigoted stance on gays it would be better to slander the Muppets and say that their toys are dangerous. I hope the Muppets sue the pants of of them.

[Link: www.balloon-juice.com...]

I guess lying is a Christian value now.

21 Kragar  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 4:03:58pm

re: #20 moderatelyradicalliberal

Chik-Fil-A has decided that rather than admit that the Muppets won't work with them anymore because of their bigoted stance on gays it would be better to slander the Muppets and say that their toys are dangerous. I hope the Muppets sue the pants of of them.

[Link: www.balloon-juice.com...]

I guess lying is a Christian value now.

"Do exactly what we say or you'll burn forever."

Yeah, its been a value for generations.

22 wrenchwench  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 4:04:41pm

re: #18 freetoken

I look forward to your Page(s).

23 jaunte  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 4:04:54pm

re: #20 moderatelyradicalliberal

Chik-N-Shits

24 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 4:05:53pm

Hmm...wow I can upding again, just hit a glitch where every time I tried to upding someone it reloaded the main page instead. Exiting LGF and coming back seems to have fixed it, anyone else run into this one?

25 moderatelyradicalliberal  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 4:07:23pm

re: #18 freetoken

President Obama is more like a bridge, between what was and what may be.

In my view, the question is whether we look towards the future, or if in atavistic fashion we try to run backwards towards some (non-existent) idyl.

Earlier a I linked to a Chait piece about Romney not wanting to apologize, and now Romney for 4 years now has been accusing Obama of "apologizing" to other nations when, in Romney's eyes, the US has nothing for which to apologize.

Thus Romney knows how to play the strings of nationalism in the orchestra of America. He does this will full knowledge and planning, btw, because that is his best be to becoming the alpha male in a system that requires at least nominal group approval for someone to become the top dog.

So, while Obama is not really a total corrective to the androcentric national-religion, he's the most this nation has gone in that direction.

Which is why the fundamentalist wingnuts rant so much about Obama, and create such fantasies. Speaking of the latter, I see the latest OUTRAGE!! over at WND has something to do with a mysterious WEDDING RING!! Barack Obama was wearing, before he met Michelle. Yes, really.

Anyway, in their blind and ignorant fear the wingnuts do sense one tiny bit of reality - Obama is not one of them.

Fortunately, for the rest of us.

I've thought this too. I think President Obama just looks too much like a future that scares them and that they fear they don't have a place in. I don't know if its even conscious on their part. He and what he represents just scares the shit out of them. Some of it's policy and that's fair, but most of it is just tribalism as policy. Obama is no radical in terms of policy or temperament but these people see the most awful boogie man when they look at him. He's the embodiment of cultural changes that they never wanted and have always fought.

26 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 4:11:54pm

re: #19 Kragar

Sherman Hemsley dead at 74

Geoooorrggee

27 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 4:12:48pm

re: #23 jaunte

Chik-N-Shits

Someone from here made me lol at work with

eat mor cock

28 freetoken  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 4:12:58pm

re: #22 wrenchwench

If they ever materialize. The rough drafts already exceed the character limit of Pages... and they're still not organized in a fashion that I think readers would appreciate.

The amount of background one must, if one wants to be clear, cover to discuss a topic like Did Jesus Exist? or, in my opinion the almost identical Did David Exist? or Did Abraham Exist?, is quite large.

In order to discuss the origins of the NT one must understand Hasmonean Judaism and the various non-main stream cults (such as Enochic Judaism, which is really the forerunner of Christianity), Roman Palestine, and Greek culture. And to understand Judaism of any sort one must understand the late antiquity near east.

I see in the Pages that there is a running conversation on the origins Israeli-Palestinian conflicts. As far as I can tell, it starts with Sennacherib, but I doubt the posters on that Page want to go that far back.

29 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 4:14:05pm

Third edit for a stupid sentence. I need my wine!

30 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 4:18:19pm

re: #29 Stanley Sea

Third edit for a stupid sentence. I need my wine!

Perhaps you have had enough? :p

/

31 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 4:18:20pm

re: #29 Stanley Sea

Third edit for a stupid sentence. I need less wine!

:P

32 freetoken  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 4:20:10pm

BTW, that Wikipedia link to Sennacherib illustrates how well entrenched the traditional Biblical mindset is - note how it has to frame the story in light of various Biblical references, as if to privilege various books which make up the Jewish and Christian canons, when both are well documented to be highly, um, creative.

33 Interesting Times  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 4:22:36pm

Wow...I have to present these tweets in sequence so you can get the full effect of what Romney said (@DCPlod is British and tweets about UK and US politics):

34 freetoken  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 4:24:44pm

re: #33 Interesting Times

Holy dog-whistle indeed.

I wonder what the Celts think about being over run by Angles and Saxons?

Romney is running for the VDARE vote now, though his previous stance on immigration damns him in their eyes.

35 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 4:25:43pm

re: #30 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You

Perhaps you have had enough? :p

/

No, I'm opposite. Perform better with a little help. Well after hours at least.

36 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 4:28:08pm

re: #33 Interesting Times

Wow...I have to present these tweets in sequence so you can get the full effect of what Romney said (@DCPlod is British and tweets about UK and US politics):

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wow.

37 freetoken  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 4:30:04pm

When its The Telegraph which writes:

In remarks that may prompt accusations of racial insensitivity, one suggested Mr Romney was better placed to understand the ties between the countries than Mr Obama, whose father was from Africa. “We are part of an Anglo-Saxon heritage, and he feels that the special relationship is special,” the adviser said of Mr Romney, adding: “The White House didn’t fully appreciate the shared history we have.”

... then the Romney team ought to take note that they just may have stepped into some poo.

38 freetoken  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 4:33:01pm

Well, if Romney wanted to draw attention to his over seas visits, he sure has now. That "anglo-saxon" thing is being picked up widely.

39 freetoken  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 4:36:39pm

Mitt Romney on Mitt Romney's dog whistle: "I wouldn't have used those exact words."

40 darthstar  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 4:45:36pm

Yay! We're returning to the middle ages! Black Plague, anyone?

41 darthstar  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 4:46:11pm

re: #40 darthstar

Yay! We're returning to the middle ages! Black Plague, anyone?

Oops...maybe we should call that Kenyan World View Plague...

42 darthstar  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 4:47:51pm
43 freetoken  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 4:48:45pm

Speaking of being in the middle ages, I still use Leopard, and tomorrow I will be a full 3 operating systems behind:

Apple to release new Mac operating system

44 Big Joe  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 4:50:07pm

Romney Adviser Bolton Backs Bachmann’s Anti-Muslim Witch Hunt

Today on Center for Security Policy president Frank Gaffney’s radio show, Mitt Romney foreign policy adviser John Bolton defended Rep. Michele Bachmann’s (R-MN) call for the U.S. government to investigate suggestions that government employees — including a top aide to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton — are affiliated with a Muslim Brotherhood plot to infiltrate the U.S. government.

BOLTON: What I think these members of Congress have done is simply raise the question, to a variety of inspectors general in key agencies, are your departments following their own security clearance guidelines, are they adhering to the standards that presumably everybody who seeks a security clearance should have to go through, are they making special exemptions? What is wrong with raising the question? Why is even asking whether we are living up to our standards a legitimate area of congressional oversight, why has that generated this criticism? I’m just mystified by it.

Mitt should be made to OWN that.

45 Kragar  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 4:53:35pm

NBC/WSJ Poll: Obama Leads By 6 Points, Americans Tiring Of Candidates

It’s July. But Americans seem to be already asking: When is this thing over?

President Obama leads Republican Mitt Romney by 6 points in a new poll from NBC News and the Wall Street Journal, 49 percent to 43 percent. But the underlying message in the numbers is that Americans are already souring on both candidates as negative attacks ramp up and fall inches closer.

46 Targetpractice  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 4:54:15pm

re: #45 Kragar

NBC/WSJ Poll: Obama Leads By 6 Points, Americans Tiring Of Candidates

Not surprising, I was tired of this whole mess six months ago, when the primaries never seemed to end.

47 darthstar  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 4:54:42pm
48 darthstar  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 4:55:09pm

re: #46 Targetpractice

Not surprising, I was tired of this whole mess six months ago, when the primaries never seemed to end.

21 Republican debates.

49 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 4:56:06pm

re: #44 Big Joe

Romney Adviser Bolton Backs Bachmann’s Anti-Muslim Witch Hunt

Mitt should be made to OWN that.

Today's GOP: Supporters of a new, revitalized HUAC; instead of a "Red Scare", they push a "Red Crescent Scare".

/Joe McCarthy's tanned, rested, and ready...

50 makeitstop  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 4:58:42pm

re: #45 Kragar

But the underlying message in the numbers is that Americans are already souring on both candidates as negative attacks ramp up and fall inches closer.

Upon first read I thought 'negative attacks fall inches closer to what?'

A capital letter would have made all the difference.

51 darthstar  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 5:02:38pm

I think that's Michelle's brother, who is a coach in Oregon.

52 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 5:04:49pm

re: #51 darthstar

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I think that's Michelle's brother, who is a coach in Oregon.

Ya.

53 dragonfire1981  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 5:08:57pm

Good grief, is the CBO being run by Republicans now?

CBO: ACA could leave millions uninsured

WASHINGTON — The Congressional Budget Office said Tuesday that the Supreme Court decision on President Obama’s health care overhaul would probably lead to an increase in the number of uninsured and a modest reduction in the cost to the federal government, compared with estimates before the court ruling.

The court said, in effect, that a large expansion of Medicaid envisioned under the 2010 law was a state option, not a requirement.

As a result, the budget office said, it now predicts that six million fewer people will be insured by Medicaid, the federal-state program for low-income people. But half of them, it said, will probably gain private insurance coverage through health insurance exchanges to be established in all states.

54 dragonfire1981  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 5:10:10pm

re: #19 Kragar

Sherman Hemsley dead at 74

I am only 30 so I am a bit too young to remember The Jeffersons. I DO however, remember Sherman Hemsley from his guest appearances on the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, including this memorable one where he appeared alongside "Weezie" in a marriage counselling scene:

55 darthstar  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 5:10:34pm
56 Achilles Tang  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 5:10:55pm

3 Million More May Be Uninsured Under Ruling, Study Says

Without looking into this further, I cannot see how this number is arrived at. What am I missing in reading that expanding coverage options will INCREASE the number of uninsured?

57 PhillyPretzel  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 5:11:40pm

re: #54 dragonfire1981

And I am old enough to remember that The Jeffersons was a spin off from All in the Family.

58 freetoken  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 5:11:59pm

re: #53 dragonfire1981

As near as I can tell, this is just a consequence of the details of the SCOTUS ruling. If, as it appears to be congealing, that many states don't do the expanded coverage, then there will be consequences.

Additionally, it is unclear to me how the insurance mandate will affect the insurance industry as a whole, in the long run. The insurance industry is inter-linked via the re-insurance industry, that spreads around the risks of the insurance companies themselves. Casting insurance companies as the "bad guy" will have repercussions as of yet unknown.

59 Targetpractice  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 5:11:59pm

re: #53 dragonfire1981

Good grief, is the CBO being run by Republicans now?

CBO: ACA could leave millions uninsured

The CBO's saying that, due to the exchanges being ruled as "optional," there are going to be many folks who were projected to get insurance but now won't because the Republican governments there would rather stamp their feet and whine than expand Medicaid and build exchanges using federal funds.

60 darthstar  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 5:12:55pm

By the way, did anyone catch Hardball today when Chris asked why Mitt Romney called President Obama our "corrupt president"? Asshole fucker.

61 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 5:13:12pm

re: #11 freetoken

Just as patristic religious leaders in late antiquity eviscerated official Jewish religion from its more feministic (and polytheistic) roots, and thus (in Dever's eyes) stripping away essential characteristics of the monotheistic God

I'm not even wading into this, because it's a nice afternoon, and the sun is shining, but be careful of identifying a faith or culture as 'feministic' merely because it worships feminine deities.

62 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 5:13:57pm

re: #47 darthstar

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Nah, hack it to read in Tolkien's Elvish... ;)

63 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 5:14:36pm

re: #34 freetoken

Holy dog-whistle indeed.

I wonder what the Celts think about being over run by Angles and Saxons?

I'm still pissed, despite having ancestry from all three groups.

64 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 5:14:56pm

re: #56 Achilles Tang

3 Million More May Be Uninsured Under Ruling, Study Says

Without looking into this further, I cannot see how this number is arrived at. What am I missing in reading that expanding coverage options will INCREASE the number of uninsured?

It sure looks like that's what the article says.

65 Mocking Jay  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 5:14:59pm

re: #60 darthstar

If I may repeat myself from last thread:

Show us the tax returns, then talk.

66 freetoken  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 5:15:11pm

re: #61 SanFranciscoZionist

Care must be taken when ascribing to a word one of many contemporary meanings and then taking those into the deep past. By "feministic" I meant simply arising from, originating from, feminine qualities.

67 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 5:15:37pm

re: #51 darthstar

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I think that's Michelle's brother, who is a coach in Oregon.

When black people touch each other, revolutionary energy is generated.

It's very, VERY dangerous.

68 darthstar  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 5:15:48pm

re: #57 PhillyPretzel

And I am old enough to remember that The Jeffersons was a spin off from All in the Family.

All the 70s shows were spin-offs of each other...as were some of the 80s...Remember Moonlighting with Bruce Willis and Cybil Shepard(mid 80s)? It even used the same set as Hart to Hart(79-82)...same desks, same reception area, same offices.

69 darthstar  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 5:16:29pm

re: #64 Killgore Trout

It sure looks like that's what the article says.

Well, if it's on the internet, it must be true.

70 PhillyPretzel  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 5:16:40pm

re: #68 darthstar

Yes. And I recall Maude was also a spin off of All in the Family too.

71 sagehen  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 5:17:09pm

re: #50 makeitstop

Upon first read I thought 'negative attacks fall inches closer to what?'

A capital letter would have made all the difference.

Eats, shoots and leaves....

72 darthstar  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 5:17:29pm

re: #70 PhillyPretzel

Yes. And I recall Maude was also a spin off of All in the Family too.

And One Day At A Time.

73 darthstar  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 5:17:59pm

Okay, kids...time to go see Mad Bum take on the Padres. Catch you later.

74 Mocking Jay  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 5:18:04pm

re: #69 darthstar

Well, if it's on the internet, it must be true.

Soon I shall be making $400/day from the comfort of my own house. Soon...

75 KingKenrod  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 5:18:18pm

re: #38 freetoken

Well, if Romney wanted to draw attention to his over seas visits, he sure has now. That "anglo-saxon" thing is being picked up widely.

It's a major gaffe. He's talking about a special relationship but doesn't know a few basic facts about who he's talking to.

And I usually dismiss dog whistle claims, but that sure sounds like something from VDARE.

76 sagehen  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 5:19:03pm

re: #56 Achilles Tang

3 Million More May Be Uninsured Under Ruling, Study Says

Without looking into this further, I cannot see how this number is arrived at. What am I missing in reading that expanding coverage options will INCREASE the number of uninsured?

Not compared to pre-ACA... the increase is as compared to if the medicaid expansion part of ACA hadn't been struck down.

77 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 5:19:11pm

From the same article as the "Anglo-Saxon" statement by a Romney adviser:

One member of the former Massachusetts governor’s foreign policy team said: “In contrast to President Obama, whose first instinct is to reach out to America’s adversaries, the Governor’s first impulse is to consult and coordinate and to move closer to our friends and allies overseas so they can rely on American constancy and strength,” one said.

“Obama is a Left-winger,” said another. “He doesn’t value the Nato alliance as much, he’s very comfortable with American decline and the traditional alliances don’t mean as much to him. He wouldn’t like singing 'Land of Hope and Glory’.”

78 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 5:20:28pm

re: #70 PhillyPretzel

Yes. And I recall Maude was also a spin off of All in the Family too.

MAUDE HAD AN ABORTION!!! I remember hearing about that.

79 Mocking Jay  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 5:21:26pm

Texan accidentally fires shot at Walmart

KDFW-TV, Dallas/Fort Worth, said Canady, who has a concealed-weapons permit, was reportedly reaching for his wallet in the checkout line but grabbed the pistol he was carrying instead. The gun went off, wounding Canady in the buttocks. The bullet then hit the floor and sent fragments into the other two victims.

An off-duty officer saw the incident and confronted Canady, who allegedly ran off.

The important question here is why does his wallet feel like a gun?

80 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 5:21:28pm

re: #74 Mocking Jay

Soon I shall be making $400/day from the comfort of my own house. Soon...

And I'll have no wrinkles! whoop!

81 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 5:21:29pm

re: #66 freetoken

Care must be taken when ascribing to a word one of many contemporary meanings and then taking those into the deep past. By "feministic" I meant simply arising from, originating from, feminine qualities.

I thought that might be the intent...but there is such a deep morass of ideas about the idea of pre-Judaic, pre-monotheistic religion and it's relationship to the feminine, and some of it is...silly.

82 sagehen  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 5:22:39pm

re: #70 PhillyPretzel

Yes. And I recall Maude was also a spin off of All in the Family too.

and Maude begat The Golden Girls...

(more recently, Det Munch has been on Homicide: Life on the Streets, 3 of the Law & Orders, X-Files and The Lone Gunmen).

83 Achilles Tang  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 5:24:35pm

re: #64 Killgore Trout

It sure looks like that's what the article says.

It says, but doesn't explain.

84 sattv4u2  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 5:27:13pm

re: #83 Achilles Tang

It says, but doesn't explain.


The court said, in effect, that a large expansion of Medicaid envisioned under the 2010 law was a state option, not a requirement

While it is not yet clear how many states will ultimately opt out of the expansion, the budget office said it now predicted that six million fewer people would be insured by Medicaid, the federal-state program for low-income people. Half of them, it said, will probably gain private insurance coverage through health insurance exchanges to be established in all states.

85 freetoken  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 5:30:18pm

re: #81 SanFranciscoZionist

I thought that might be the intent...but there is such a deep morass of ideas about the idea of pre-Judaic, pre-monotheistic religion and it's relationship to the feminine, and some of it is...silly.

Dever goes into that. Since he converted to Judaism late in life, in conjunction with a second marriage, his views are not from his upbringing as a youth but one from being a student of the ancient near east. For those who don't know, Dever was (is, he's emeritus now) one of the foremost American scholars on "Biblical Archeology", who in his early years broke free of the Albright originated Bible-privileged school into a more modern anthropological approach to archeology. Then, he sort of tacked back, with his late conversion to Judaism, to a new and improved "Biblical archeology".

To put it succinctly, Dever's been around the block. He is very dismissive of post-modernism and radical feminism, yet highly sympathetic to those who want to see the domination of androcentric cast in the historical light that it ought to be - that it was not the original form of religion in the ancient near east, and that monotheism and on top of that a male monotheistic god, is indeed a development over time (and a bloody and conflict ridden development at that.)

86 Achilles Tang  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 5:30:38pm

re: #84 sattv4u2

Still no explanation why expanded option would result in lower coverage rates. Either the states will drop people now covered, or some now covered will be dropped and not be smart enough to know to sign up anew.

87 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 5:31:34pm

re: #80 Stanley Sea

And I'll have no wrinkles! whoop!

And I'll be speaking a new language every week!

88 sattv4u2  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 5:32:55pm

re: #83 Achilles Tang

re: #86 Achilles Tang

Still no explanation why expanded option would result in lower coverage rates. Either the states will drop people now covered, or some now covered will be dropped and not be smart enough how to sign up anew.

It's a revision of the total that were expected TO BE covered due to expected state opt outs, not lowering the number covered now

They expected an additional 30 million to be covered. They've revised that down to 27 million (3 million "less")

89 Mocking Jay  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 5:33:57pm

re: #87 Learned Mother of Zion

And I'll be speaking a new language every week!

And, coincidentally, you'll be helping me make that 400/day!

90 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 5:47:33pm

re: #72 darthstar

And One Day At A Time.

No...One Day At a Time was a Lear show, but existed outside of the AITF/Maude/Jeffersons universe, which took place mostly in New York City and its environs (ODAAT was set in Indianapolis).

91 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 6:05:38pm

re: #90 TedStriker

No...One Day At a Time was a Lear show, but existed outside of the AITF/Maude/Jeffersons universe, which took place mostly in New York City and its environs (ODAAT was set in Indianapolis).

Might I also add, Good Times was also a spin-off in the AITF universe, springing forth from Maude and changing locales from NYC to Chicago. One thing I did not know about Good Times is that Mike Evans (Lionel in AITF and The Jeffersons) created the series, based on his own childhood experiences.

92 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 6:38:16pm

re: #82 sagehen

and Maude begat The Golden Girls...

(more recently, Det Munch has been on Homicide: Life on the Streets, 3 of the Law & Orders, X-Files and The Lone Gunmen).

Not really...the only link between Maude and The Golden Girls is that Bea Arthur and Rue McClanahan were in both series; different producers, different universes.

Here's a partial rundown of the 70s/80s TV series spinoff box score:
All in the Family->Maude->Good Times
All in the Family->The Jeffersons
All in the Family->Archie Bunker's Place

Love, American Style->Happy Days
Happy Days->Laverne & Shirley
Happy Days->Mork & Mindy
Happy Days->Joanie Loves Chachi
Happy Days->Out of the Blue
Happy Days->Blansky's Beauties

Diff'rent Strokes->The Facts of Life

The Golden Girls->Empty Nest

93 Achilles Tang  Tue, Jul 24, 2012 8:29:15pm

re: #88 sattv4u2

re: #86 Achilles Tang

It's a revision of the total that were expected TO BE covered due to expected state opt outs, not lowering the number covered now

They expected an additional 30 million to be covered. They've revised that down to 27 million (3 million "less")

Thanks


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