1 Kragar  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 3:14:53pm

To quote the AFA and FRC, stop chiming in on gay marriage and sell your product
////

2 brennant  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 3:23:29pm

"lesbian fantasy-snack"

3 HappyWarrior  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 3:23:35pm

re: #1 Kragar

To quote the AFA and FRC, stop chiming in on gay marriage and sell your product
///

That's only if you're pro gay marriage. If you do what Cathy of Chick-Fil-A is doing then you're doing God's work to fight the homosexual agenda.//

4 Kragar  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 3:24:51pm

re: #3 HappyWarrior

That's only if you're pro gay marriage. If you do what Cathy of Chick-Fil-A is doing then you're doing God's work to fight the homosexual agenda.//

Funny how that works

5 researchok  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 3:26:05pm

'Standing up for stock photo Americans'.

6 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 3:27:54pm

I just checked the Chick fil A website press releases and nothing about LGBT rights. You'd think with all the bruhaha, they'd issue a press release stating their position.

7 HappyWarrior  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 3:28:24pm

re: #4 Kragar

Funny how that works

Yeah ain't it. Idiot Huckabee was claiming that the boycott of Chick-Fil-A was bullying yet said nothing about JCPenney being boycotted because they had Ellen DeGeneres as a spokesperson and hell the group boycotting even said the problem with Ellen is that she was too likable. Yeah it must suck when your stereotypes about gays get busted eh Million Moms.

8 Kragar  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 3:32:18pm

re: #7 HappyWarrior

Yeah ain't it. Idiot Huckabee was claiming that the boycott of Chick-Fil-A was bullying yet said nothing about JCPenney being boycotted because they had Ellen DeGeneres as a spokesperson and hell the group boycotting even said the problem with Ellen is that she was too likable. Yeah it must suck when your stereotypes about gays get busted eh Million Moms.

I guess Huck is still recovering from his failed animation project getting shut down over copyright infringements and doesn't have his head on straight.

9 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 3:35:21pm

This article from CNN is all I could find:

The controversy took flight in mid-July after Cathy gave an interview to the Biblical Recorder, on online journal for Baptists in North Carolina. In the July 2 story - picked up by the Baptist Press on July 16 - Cathy affirmed that his company backs the traditional family unit.

“We are very much supportive of the family – the biblical definition of the family unit,” Cathy said. “We are a family-owned business, a family-led business, and we are married to our first wives. We give God thanks for that.”

“We know that it might not be popular with everyone, but thank the Lord we live in a country where we can share our values and operate on biblical principles,” he added.

The fast-food chicken restaurant chain has long been known to espouse Christian values, and does not operate on Sundays so that employees can be free to attend church if they choose.

Proponents of same-sex marriage spread Cathy’s comments, eventually creating a firestorm of criticism on social media, including assertions that his comments and position were bigoted and hateful.

Chick-fil-A said last week, as the controversy was heating up, that it its culture and service tradition “is to treat every person with honor, dignity and respect – regardless of their belief, race, creed, sexual orientation or gender.”

“We will continue this tradition in the over 1,600 restaurants run by independent owner/operators. Going forward, our intent is to leave the policy debate over same-sex marriage to the government and political arena," said a statement from Don Perry, the company's vice president of corporate public relations, just days before Perry died.

They should issue a press release stating that their Independent Franchisees operate according to the law. Hopefully, anyway.

10 Varek Raith  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 3:38:27pm

re: #7 HappyWarrior

Yeah ain't it. Idiot Huckabee was claiming that the boycott of Chick-Fil-A was bullying yet said nothing about JCPenney being boycotted because they had Ellen DeGeneres as a spokesperson and hell the group boycotting even said the problem with Ellen is that she was too likable. Yeah it must suck when your stereotypes about gays get busted eh Million Moms.

Are Boycotts Moral? For the Religious Right, It Depends on Who They're Targeting

11 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 3:39:48pm

boycotting is bullying? Hey, the way things are, how we vote with our dollars is sometimes more effective that voting at the ballot booth!

12 Kragar  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 3:45:09pm

Apparently criticizing Chick-fil-a is a direct attack on the Christian faith

The current vicious attack on Chick-fil-A is against much more than one family and their business. It is a blatant assault on faith, Judeo-Christian morality, and freedom itself. Believers must no longer stand down and remain silent. Now is the time to boldly stand together as soldiers of the Lord Jesus Christ. Jesus made it clear that He is sending His followers out as “sheep in the midst of wolves.” How true this is! He did not, however, say we are sent as sheep to the slaughter. We are commanded to suit up in the “whole armor of God” and become “more than conquerors” because “the Lord is our shepherd” and promises to care for us even in the presence of our enemies. We are not to give one inch of our lives or our land to the predatory tactics of the father of all lies and the enemy of truth and life.

13 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 3:46:22pm

I think the think that bothers me about this is that the statement of the corporate exec is hurting the franchisees who may or may not feel the same way. If they were all corporate stores, that would be one thing. He could direct policy, but it really isn't right to negatively affect independent franchisees who have worked and sunk their own money into their stores.

This Cathy guy was very irresponsible in that. I wonder if any of the franchisees are going to make a class action stink about it if their sales go way down.

QSR (Quick Serve Restaurant) franchisees often are Mom & Pop operations and these people work their asses off for years to try to own a 2 or 3 stores before they are really able to hire a manager and relax a little.

14 dragonath  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 3:47:15pm

re: #8 Kragar

I guess Huck is still recovering from his failed animation project getting shut down over copyright infringements and doesn't have his head on straight.

What's this about a failed anima...

HOHH MAH GOD

15 freetoken  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 3:48:11pm

re: #12 Kragar

It's turning out that just about everything is an "assault on faith, Judeo-Christian morality".

16 jaunte  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 3:48:24pm

re: #12 Kragar

Onward chicken sandwiches, marching as to war.

17 freetoken  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 3:49:55pm
These militant politicians are upset over Chick-fil-A’s President, Dan Cathy’s, comments in support of traditional marriage.

But can these politicians really block a company just because of their religious viewpoint? Seems to be another case of religious discrimination and anti-Christian bigotry.

MILITANTS!!

18 freetoken  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 3:50:53pm

Oh, the first comment over there:

Mark Steiner
July 27, 2012 at 11:42 am
In Ukraine, legislation has been introduced to outlaw homosexual activism. Fines and jail sentences are penaties. Someone has it right. When will we?

Support Chik-fil-A by being a cow and eatin’ more chik’n!

19 Kragar  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 3:52:01pm

re: #18 freetoken

Oh, the first comment over there:

Cows routinely eat chickens?

20 freetoken  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 3:52:47pm

re: #19 Kragar

Cows routinely eat chickens?

Only after The Fall. Before sin entered the world, cows and chickens got along fabulously.

21 Varek Raith  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 3:54:07pm

re: #18 freetoken

Oh, the first comment over there:

Image: rY4My.jpg

22 Kragar  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 3:58:34pm
23 prairiefire  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 3:58:40pm

Happy Friday, lizards!

24 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 4:03:58pm

re: #17 freetoken

MILITANTS!!

I was just reading up on this.

Alderman to Chick-fil-A: No deal

Moreno tries to block restaurant that opposes gay marriage from opening in his Northwest Side ward

I do think government involvement is over the line. The company, or the CEO, should be allowed to have whatever opinion he wants as long as he's not discriminating or conducting illegal business practices. I don't like the idea of government punishing people who disagree about policy.

25 freetoken  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 4:04:21pm

The strongly atavistic religious reactionaries are frightened - and for a reason. Their worldview is collapsing as knowledge continues to be gathered around the world, which contradicts the necessary back-story that supports the prejudices of the likes of the AFA, Barton, et. al.

Not that commercial western media won't use this turmoil to make some dough. For example, this NYT originated article that is being reprinted across the country:

DNA, fossils at odds on human development

The writer, Nicholas Wade, is basing the CONTROVERSY! on a single statement by one paleoanthropologist, Richard Klein, who objects to positing a new species without archeological evidence (bones, tools, etc.)

In reality, there isn't really a controversy over the findings of the paper reported, but rather what it means in the bigger picture of detailing human evolution - Recent Out of Africa, or a Multi-Regional evolution. However, that is not covered in that wire story.

Anyway, the Biblical story has long been shown to be creative fiction, written by a small group of religions leaders in one Semitic group between the early Iron Age and late antiquity, to fill in a back story for a nationalistic movement. That then the current atavists glom onto these stories (and glom erroneously, btw) is not surprising given their own lusts for power.

26 freetoken  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 4:10:52pm

Off topic, maybe, but further evidence of the deconstruction of civilization we're undergoing:

LSU announces cuts to hospital system; Lake Charles and Independence centers hit hardest

The Louisiana public hospital system will plug a $329 million shortfall through a combination of cuts to services for thousands of patients at some medical centers and a series of financial maneuvers aimed at funneling money into the system as a stop-gap.

While most of the proposal relies on shifting money that was being used for other purposes, such as physician recruitment, into funding direct medical care, none of the 10 hospitals in the Louisiana State University system will be spared from cuts. Those reductions amount to about $50 million and fall heaviest on the Lallie Kemp Regional Medical Center in Independence and the Walter O. Moss Regional Medical Center in Lake Charles.

Overall, LSU hospitals expect a reduction of about 79,000 outpatient visits and provide about 12,400 fewer days of in-hospital care. Many of those patients, particularly those who use the public hospitals for outpatient treatment, will be left without health care services, said Dr. Fred Cerise, the head of the hospital system.

[...]

Lalliie Kemp will see cuts of about $14 million, including reductions in cancer services, the loss of two physician positions, reductions to women's health services and staff reductions. William O. Moss will be cut by about $10.5 million, including reductions in clinical operations, the elimination of all but ten inpatient beds and reductions in staff.

[...]

Bobby Jindal - fighting to keep taxes low, and services even lower.

VP candidate?

27 Kragar  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 4:12:00pm

re: #26 freetoken

Off topic, maybe, but further evidence of the deconstruction of civilization we're undergoing:

LSU announces cuts to hospital system; Lake Charles and Independence centers hit hardest

Bobby Jindal - fighting to keep taxes low, and services even lower.

VP candidate?

If they loved Jesus more, they wouldn't get sick.
/

28 researchok  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 4:14:09pm

re: #24 Killgore Trout

From Mother Jones, no less, by Adam Serwer:

In Defense of Chick-Fil-A

..."We think there's a constitutional problem with discriminating against someone based on the content of their speech," says John Knight, director of the LGBT rights project at the Illinois branch of the American Civil Liberties Union. And Illinois law does not demand that restaurants have anti-discrimination policies in place—"It's a good idea for restaurants to have those policies," Knight says, but the law doesn't require it.

....Chick-fil-A should not be prevented from opening business because of the views of its leaders, or his donations to anti-gay causes. But gays and lesbians in Illinois and Massachusetts have the right to be free from discrimination in employment based on who they are. They also have a right to protest, boycott, and make Chick-fil-A's customers aware that their purchases fund anti-gay activism. If Chick-fil-A discriminates in hiring or refuses to serve customers on the basis of sexual orientation, the local authorities can and should hold him accountable.

Food for thought.

29 Stanghazi  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 4:14:40pm

re: #23 prairiefire

Happy Friday, lizards!

Happy to you too!

30 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 4:17:18pm

Hoax?
A Working Assault Rifle Made With a 3-D Printer

An amateur gunsmith, operating under the handle of "HaveBlue" (incidentally, "Have Blue" is the codename that was used for the prototype stealth fighter that became the Lockheed F-117), announced recently in online forums that he had successfully printed a serviceable .22 caliber pistol.

Despite predictions of disaster, the pistol worked. It successfully fired 200 rounds in testing.

HaveBlue then decided to push the limits of what was possible and use his printer to make an AR-15 rifle. To do this, he downloaded plans for an AR-15 in the Solidworks file format from a site called CNCGunsmith.com. After some small modifications to the design, he fed about $30 of ABS plastic feedstock into his late-model Stratasys printer. The result was a functional AR-15 rifle. Early testing shows that it works, although it still has some minor feed and extraction problems to be worked out.
...
While there are still some details to sort out, it's pretty clear that making weapons at home using 3-D printers from commonly available materials is going to become much more commonplace in the near future. In fact, as 3-D printing technology matures, materials feedstock improves, and designs for weapons proliferate, we might soon see the day when nearly everyone will be able to print the weapons of their choice in the numbers they desire, all within the privacy of their own homes.

I have little doubt that the printer is capable of making an operational gun. A .22 out of abs plastic I can believe but an ar-15? I think that's pretty doubtful. It does raise some interesting problems for the concept of gun control as printer technology and materials advance.

31 freetoken  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 4:17:53pm

Bristol Palin to ‘Dance’ again, since media won’t leave her alone

The Palins are creeping up on the Kardashians in their campaign to become the First Family of reality TV with news Friday that Bristol Palin had been cast in ABC’s fall all-star edition of “Dancing with the Stars.”

“I don’t think it’s our business,” Bristol said of her family, when one TV critic asked about the Palin family reality-TV dynasty.

“I just think you guys are going to be talking about us either way, so we might as well be doing something enjoyable and fun.”

Cognitive dissonance, anyone?

32 Kragar  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 4:18:06pm
33 freetoken  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 4:19:25pm

re: #30 Killgore Trout

The first thing that I wonder about is the heat dissipation. Given that the material used in these type of printers tend to be good insulators, the barrel temps ought to get pretty high.

34 researchok  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 4:22:04pm

re: #30 Killgore Trout

Another sleepless night ahead.

If this is true, we have all kinds of problems around the corner

35 Stanghazi  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 4:22:04pm

re: #32 Kragar

Mitt's huge potential foreign policy shift

Very stupid. Very undiplomatic. Hillary will ream him a new one.

36 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 4:22:26pm

re: #28 researchok

From Mother Jones, no less, by Adam Serwer:

In Defense of Chick-Fil-A

...Chick-fil-A should not be prevented from opening business because of the views of its leaders, or his donations to anti-gay causes. But gays and lesbians in Illinois and Massachusetts have the right to be free from discrimination in employment based on who they are. They also have a right to protest, boycott, and make Chick-fil-A's customers aware that their purchases fund anti-gay activism. If Chick-fil-A discriminates in hiring or refuses to serve customers on the basis of sexual orientation, the local authorities can and should hold him accountable.

Food for thought.

Bravo! Mother Jones really does surprise me sometimes. I'm being more careful about the news sources I read and skip over a lot of stuff from partisan sources. Mother Jones does have a long history of lefty activist journalism but what I really admire is they do offer some surprises. MSNBC and FOX are completely predictable so there's not much reason to pay attention to what they have to say. I'll hand it to Mother Jones, I may not always agree but when I see a link to them I will click it. I'm often impressed.

37 freetoken  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 4:22:37pm

re: #35 Stanley Sea

Very stupid. Very undiplomatic. Hillary will ream him a new one.

And why would that stop him?

38 Romantic Heretic  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 4:22:42pm

re: #24 Killgore Trout

I was just reading up on this.

Alderman to Chick-fil-A: No deal

I do think government involvement is over the line. The company, or the CEO, should be allowed to have whatever opinion he wants as long as he's not discriminating or conducting illegal business practices. I don't like the idea of government punishing people who disagree about policy.

I agree with you.

On the other hand Chik-Fil-A does discriminate against gays and lesbians in its hiring practices. My wife says she's known people that worked for the restaurant and they said that Chik-Fil-A will not serve openly gay couples nor will they hire gays. I looked for cites but couldn't find any.

But I trust my wife and she trusts the people that informed her of their actions.

39 researchok  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 4:23:03pm

re: #31 freetoken

Preceded by a healthy dose of narcissism

40 Kragar  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 4:26:24pm

re: #38 Romantic Heretic

I agree with you.

On the other hand Chik-Fil-A does discriminate against gays and lesbians in its hiring practices. My wife says she's known people that worked for the restaurant and they said that Chik-Fil-A will not serve openly gay couples nor will they hire gays. I looked for cites but couldn't find any.

But I trust my wife and she trusts the people that informed her of their actions.

Chick-Fil-A is welcome to contribute to any organization they are legally allowed to. In the meantime, I will feel free to not buy their products until they alter their position on civil rights.

41 HappyWarrior  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 4:27:41pm

re: #22 Kragar

Hannity: Bachmann, Gohmert Are "Modern Day Paul Reveres" For Muslim Brotherhood Conspiracy

So they rode around ringing their bells?
/

Doesn't Hannity have a white supremacist to pal around with?

42 HappyWarrior  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 4:28:46pm

I feel uncomfortable about government involvement in something like this too but if they are in fact persecuting prospective gay and lesbian employees than that's another story.

43 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 4:29:06pm

re: #30 Killgore Trout

Hoax?
A Working Assault Rifle Made With a 3-D Printer

I have little doubt that the printer is capable of making an operational gun. A .22 out of abs plastic I can believe but an ar-15? I think that's pretty doubtful. It does raise some interesting problems for the concept of gun control as printer technology and materials advance.

Just because it's an AR 15 design doesn't mean he's shooting 5.56 NATO out of it. He could very well have built it as a .22lr conversion.

I'm also 100% positive that he's not printing any of the springs, but purchasing them as parts. In fact the receiver is the only part actually considered a firearm. Barrels, stocks, trigger assemblies, etc can be shipped right to your door.

44 Bubblehead II  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 4:29:35pm

re: #30 Killgore Trout

Hoax?
A Working Assault Rifle Made With a 3-D Printer

I have little doubt that the printer is capable of making an operational gun. A .22 out of abs plastic I can believe but an ar-15? I think that's pretty doubtful. It does raise some interesting problems for the concept of gun control as printer technology and materials advance.

I could see a .22. But a .223? Nope. Chamber pressure in the receiver/breech it self would cause the thing to explode.

45 Stanghazi  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 4:30:54pm

re: #37 freetoken

And why would that stop him?

It won't. And good for Obama, it will create news news and more news that only the fringy people care about. The moderates will think Romney is nuts.

46 freetoken  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 4:31:05pm

I see that the UN international arms trading negotiations ended without a complete resolution.

Has the NRA broken out in their happy dance yet?

47 Varek Raith  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 4:31:17pm

Moderate Mitt!
Lol.

48 Romantic Heretic  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 4:32:25pm

re: #46 freetoken

I see that the UN international arms trading negotiations ended without a complete resolution.

Has the NRA broken out in their happy dance yet?

No, because now they need a new bogeyman to threaten their guns. /

49 Stanghazi  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 4:32:57pm

re: #38 Romantic Heretic

I agree with you.

On the other hand Chik-Fil-A does discriminate against gays and lesbians in its hiring practices. My wife says she's known people that worked for the restaurant and they said that Chik-Fil-A will not serve openly gay couples nor will they hire gays. I looked for cites but couldn't find any.

But I trust my wife and she trusts the people that informed her of their actions.

My cousin wanted to buy a franchise. He asked me and my (ex) husband to front it, because they approve married folks, not singles. Apparently. We didn't go for it.

50 calochortus  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 4:33:28pm

re: #42 HappyWarrior

And there's a lawsuit against them for sex discrimination too.

51 Romantic Heretic  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 4:34:31pm

re: #50 calochortus

Link's broken.

52 HappyWarrior  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 4:35:04pm

re: #50 calochortus

And there's a lawsuit against them for sex discrimination too.

Yikes.

53 HappyWarrior  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 4:36:14pm

re: #51 Romantic Heretic

Link's broken.

Here's something I found on HuffPost-
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

54 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 4:37:41pm

re: #43 goddamnedfrank

Just because it's an AR 15 design doesn't mean he's shooting 5.56 NATO out of it. He could very well have built it as a .22lr conversion.

I'm also 100% positive that he's not printing any of the springs, but purchasing them as parts. In fact the receiver is the only part actually considered a firearm. Barrels, stocks, trigger assemblies, etc can be shipped right to your door.

Ah, good points. The story seem more plausible with a little more explanation.

55 calochortus  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 4:37:54pm

Sorry, try this

56 Kragar  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 4:38:21pm

Dane Cook: Douchebag

So I heard that the guy came into the theater about 25 minutes into the movie. And I don’t know if you’ve seen the movie, but the movie is pretty much a piece of crap. Yea, spoiler alert. I know that if none of that would have happened, pretty sure that somebody in that theater, about 25 minutes in, realizing it was a piece of crap, was probably like ‘ugh fucking shoot me.

57 HappyWarrior  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 4:38:58pm

re: #56 Kragar

Dane Cook: Douchebag

Dane Cook shouldn't be lecturing anyone on tastefulness.

58 Romantic Heretic  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 4:39:31pm

re: #55 calochortus

Thanks.

Ah, the Orwellian wonder of a 'right to work' state.

59 freetoken  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 4:43:16pm

I see that Jonah Goldberg has joined editor Nordlinger in attempting to take the spotlight off National Review's long time history of publishing articles from racists, by pointing the finger at LIBERALS!!


Raaaaaaacists!

60 Varek Raith  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 4:43:21pm

re: #56 Kragar

Dane Cook: Douchebag

Dear Dane,
If you're dead set on making a tasteless joke at least make it funny.

61 Varek Raith  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 4:45:22pm

re: #59 freetoken

I see that Jonah Goldberg has joined editor Nordlinger in attempting to take the spotlight off National Review's long time history of publishing articles from racists, but pointing the finger at LIBERALS!!

Raaacists!

Lol.

"And yet the only people who consistently decipher these codes or hear these dog whistles are liberals themselves. "

YOU EMPLOY RACISTS. If the leading light of conservatism doesn't like this charge, it should not hire racists. It should not publish racists.

"Liberals see themselves as sinless and heroic on matters racial, so their opposite numbers in politics must be sinful and villainous on matters of race."

Liberals call each other out for racism constantly. That you don't hear the discussion makes me call into question your perception of reality.

More to the point, you hire racists.

"I don’t think liberals appreciate how much conservatives laugh at this stuff."

Maybe if you spent less time laughing you wouldn't publish so many racists.

62 Kragar  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 4:45:57pm

Pope Benedict XVI Names Viciously Anti-Gay Priest As Archbishop Of San Francisco

In 2008, Cordileone and a select cadre of Catholic leaders decided that their best chance to end marriage equality was to pass an amendment to the state constitution. Cordileone found the first major donor and built a lasting fundraising network for the group. He brought in an organization to lead the petition. He activated a network of California’s Catholic churches, and helped craft the Prop 8 messaging campaign, even using focus groups. The campaign was successful in passing Prop 8, making Cordileone a primary reason Californians are currently denied marriage equality. After the amendment passed, Cordileone bragged to a Catholic radio show that gay Americans never saw him coming, and called gay marriage a Satanic plot by “the Evil One” to annihilate morality.

Cordileone has continued to be one of America’s most prominent anti-gay Catholic officials. In January 2011, Cordileone was named the chairman of the U.S. Bishops’ Ad Hoc Committee for the Defense of Marriage, a group dedicated to using religious influence to deny marriage equality. Cordileone is one of only 18 American bishops who have signed the Manhattan Declaration, a pledge to protect “the sanctity of life, traditional marriage, and religious liberty,” even if doing so means violating the law.

63 OhNoZombies!  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 4:46:07pm

re: #56 Kragar

Sorry Dane, but your mom didn't even laugh for that one.

64 HappyWarrior  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 4:47:59pm

re: #61 Varek Raith

Lol.

Did he mention that NR hires racists? Seriously Jonah Goldberg mocking liberals being whiny is funny given his screed of a book about how liberals are the real Nazis and fascists.

65 Varek Raith  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 4:51:21pm

Also, why is Jonah so fixated on Obama's skinniness?

66 sagehen  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 4:52:13pm

if you're in the Eastern time zone, Olympic Opening Ceremonies are starting (preceded by a short film from the ceremony director, the same guy who made "Slum Dog Millionaire")

67 HappyWarrior  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 4:52:34pm

re: #65 Varek Raith

Also, why is Jonah so fixated on Obama's skinniness?

Isn't Jonah on the chubby side? Not that there's anything wrong with that.

68 Varek Raith  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 4:53:05pm

re: #67 HappyWarrior

Isn't Jonah on the chubby side? Not that there's anything wrong with that.

He sure is weird.

69 HappyWarrior  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 4:55:24pm

re: #68 Varek Raith

He sure is weird.

Smiley Hitler mustache agrees.

70 freetoken  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 4:59:18pm

So, NBC decided to not broadcast the Olympics ceremonies live... even though the time difference is between London and New York is only a few hours.

I see that has some people up in arms.


As long as I get to see the only sport which interests me, I'm ok with that.

71 Stanghazi  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 4:59:30pm

RE: Opening ceremonies. YEA, AGREED.

72 Kragar  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 5:01:14pm

re: #71 Stanley Sea

RE: Opening ceremonies. YEA, AGREED.

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Screw this, I'll hold my own Olympics with hookers and blackjack!

73 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 5:01:59pm

re: #71 Stanley Sea

RE: Opening ceremonies. YEA, AGREED.

[Embedded content]

I already watched the interesting parts on youtube. No commercials.

75 HappyWarrior  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 5:04:45pm

re: #74 Killgore Trout

Queen Elizabeth at the Olympics Opening Ceremony...

Heh. I was recently thinking about the fact that we haven't had a King of England in 60 years. I don't really pay attention to the royal family but it's going to be weird to have Charles or one of his sons on the throne being the face of the House of Windsor.

76 Stanghazi  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 5:04:52pm

re: #73 Killgore Trout

I already watched the interesting parts on youtube. No commercials.

Ya, the tweet world is complaining mightily about the commentary. Yes, they are singing. The British SING mo fo!

77 calochortus  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 5:09:10pm

re: #70 freetoken

Somewhat oddly, our local NBC affiliate newscaster is talking about the opening ceremonies as though they will occur later and no one knows what they look like. Apparently they lack an internet connection at Channel 11?

78 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 5:11:29pm

re: #44 Bubblehead II

I could see a .22. But a .223? Nope. Chamber pressure in the receiver/breech it self would cause the thing to explode.

Lower receiver is the only printed part but that's the key in the USA. You can get every other part over the counter. Most European countries regulate the barrels instead. He's test fired it with a .22 conversion but given how little stress the lower takes in firing, I'd use it with any well made upper.

Be fun to have the appropriate printer to do it. OTOH, if I could afford the printer, I'd be able to afford an AR15 anyway LOL!

79 Amory Blaine  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 5:12:49pm

OMG tricorns at the Olympics. ;)

80 b_Snark  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 5:17:21pm

re: #19 Kragar

Cows routinely eat chickens?

Yup.

81 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 5:19:35pm

re: #62 Kragar

Pope Benedict XVI Names Viciously Anti-Gay Priest As Archbishop Of San Francisco

Cordileone's crossing the Bay? Oh, my dad's church friends are gonna freak.

I've met Cordileone very briefly, and heard him speak; he visited the school I used to teach at. He's kind of a trip. Let's leave it at that.

82 engineer cat  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 5:20:42pm

i single out jonah goldberg from the universe of morons as an especially egregious offender

83 Stanghazi  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 5:23:02pm

re: #82 engineer cat

i single out jonah goldberg from the universe of morons as an especially egregious offender

I can't pay attention to these idiot LEGACY assholes. Yeah, my MOM was a freak, now I have a job being a freak.

84 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 5:23:20pm
85 Tigger2  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 5:23:54pm

re: #22 Kragar

Hannity: Bachmann, Gohmert Are "Modern Day Paul Reveres" For Muslim Brotherhood Conspiracy

So they rode around ringing their bells?
/

The bells are just the ringing in their empty heads.

86 Stanghazi  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 5:24:25pm
87 Stoatly  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 5:24:33pm
88 Amory Blaine  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 5:25:47pm

The Queen just jumped out of a helicopter. :0

89 PhillyPretzel  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 5:26:11pm

re: #88 Amory Blaine

Yes she did. Neat.

90 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 5:26:21pm

re: #84 Learned Mother of Zion

Totally. In. The. Closet.

Eh, maybe. Rigid. Managed to throw in the disintegration of the traditional family while praising our order's founding saint. Apparently it was already underway in the 1840s, on account of the Industrial Revolution, but he didn't jump to the conclusion I would have, there.

91 Stanghazi  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 5:27:40pm

re: #83 Stanley Sea

I can't pay attention to these idiot LEGACY assholes. Yeah, my MOM was a freak, now I have a job being a freak.

Who's the other son of a right wing freaky lady who is writing? I'm blank, but believe there's another legacy in hate out there.

92 Stanghazi  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 5:28:22pm

re: #89 PhillyPretzel

Yes she did. Neat.

I read it was an actor, or the Tupac effect. Not the QUEEN. ??

93 PhillyPretzel  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 5:29:10pm

re: #92 Stanley Sea

Even it was a stand in, it was still an interesting entrance.

94 sagehen  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 5:30:43pm

re: #91 Stanley Sea

Who's the other son of a right wing freaky lady who is writing? I'm blank, but believe there's another legacy in hate out there.

Andrew Schlafly and his Conservapedia and ConservaBible.

95 sagehen  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 5:31:11pm

re: #92 Stanley Sea

I read it was an actor, or the Tupac effect. Not the QUEEN. ??

I'm assuming it was a stunt double... but ya' never know.

96 calochortus  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 5:32:17pm

re: #94 sagehen

And how is the ConservaBible doing these days? Last I heard it was, ummm, kind of stalled...

97 Stanghazi  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 5:32:17pm

re: #93 PhillyPretzel

Even it was a stand in, it was still an interesting entrance.

I'm a West Coast lagger. I'm going to watch on TV. Although I don't know when it is yet. ??

I'm not going to watch on the internet because my bill every month includes TV/Cable. I'm getting so ripped if I don't turn the thing on,

98 b_Snark  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 5:34:56pm

re: #97 Stanley Sea

I'm a West Coast lagger. I'm going to watch on TV. Although I don't know when it is yet. ??

I'm not going to watch on the internet because my bill every month includes TV/Cable. I'm getting so ripped if I don't turn the thing on,

I'm a prairie stout.

99 Amory Blaine  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 5:35:40pm

Cool they have NHS spelled out in big lights.

100 Stanghazi  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 5:36:00pm

re: #98 b_sharp

I'm a prairie stout.

what time is it on here? (ignoring your joke)

101 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 5:36:25pm

re: #91 Stanley Sea

Who's the other son of a right wing freaky lady who is writing? I'm blank, but believe there's another legacy in hate out there.

Phyllis Schlafly's boy runs Conservapedia.

102 Stanghazi  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 5:36:29pm

re: #99 Amory Blaine

Cool they have NHS spelled out in big lights.

What's NHS? Their health care system?

103 Amory Blaine  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 5:36:44pm

re: #102 Stanley Sea

Yep.

104 b_Snark  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 5:36:55pm

re: #100 Stanley Sea

what time is it on here? (ignoring your joke)

Whah!!

105 Stanghazi  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 5:37:04pm

re: #101 SanFranciscoZionist

Phyllis Schlafly's boy runs Conservapedia.

That's it. YEP. Legacy freaks.

106 calochortus  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 5:37:28pm

re: #102 Stanley Sea

What will Romney have to say about that? Celebrating taking care of people-shocking!

107 Stanghazi  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 5:37:35pm

re: #103 Amory Blaine

Yep.

RIGHT ON!!! lol, they are slamming us plebes.

108 Stanghazi  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 5:38:27pm

re: #106 calochortus

What will Romney have to say about that? Celebrating taking care of people-shocking!

"Not prudent in the money making scheme of things"

109 RadicalModerate  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 5:38:40pm

Watching the opening ceremonies to the London 2012 Olympic games, and they are celebrating two things that are an absolute anathema to American conservatives:

Children's literacy, and national healthcare.

Rightwing "pundits" are gonna be in a tizzy over this.

110 HappyWarrior  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 5:38:51pm

re: #106 calochortus

What will Romney have to say about that? Celebrating taking care of people-shocking!

"Not words I would have use." Come on this is is his response whether it's Limbaugh calling a woman a slut or a supporter calling the president a monster.

111 PhillyPretzel  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 5:39:35pm

re: #109 RadicalModerate

Let them be in a tizzy.

112 HappyWarrior  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 5:39:48pm

My cousin, her husband, and their little girl got to see the torch when it was by Hampton Court. Sounded like a once in a life time experience from what I was hearing on facebook.

113 calochortus  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 5:40:02pm

re: #110 HappyWarrior

We should get all the health care we can afford-just like education.

114 HappyWarrior  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 5:41:26pm

re: #113 calochortus

We should get all the health care we can afford-just like education.

I can totally imagine him saying something like that. Empathy for the less fortunate. Not exactly Mitt's forte.

115 calochortus  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 5:42:30pm

re: #114 HappyWarrior

Of course, he actually did say that about education...

116 sagehen  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 5:43:32pm

re: #106 calochortus

What will Romney have to say about that? Celebrating taking care of people-shocking!

"a tiny island nation that makes stuff nobody wants"

117 prairiefire  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 5:44:00pm

Oh my gosh, Mary Poppins on the Olympics. Huge salute to Barrie as well.

118 HappyWarrior  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 5:44:02pm

re: #115 calochortus

Of course, he actually did say that about education...

I know he did hence the qualifier. Really this guy is more fit to be a snobby prep school headmaster in a film than he is president.

119 HappyWarrior  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 5:44:41pm

I've only been to London once and it was on a layover but man what an exciting place it must be right now. Definitely on my list of cities I want to visit.

120 PhillyPretzel  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 5:45:03pm

re: #116 sagehen

Quick everyone buy a Thermapen. [Link: www.amazon.com...]

121 Gus  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 5:45:28pm

Why Cletus we may not have universal healthcare and probably never will but we have us the strongest military in the world.

122 Amory Blaine  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 5:46:01pm

re: #118 HappyWarrior

I know he did hence the qualifier. Really this guy is more fit to be a snobby prep school headmaster in a film than he is president.

He's totally an Alpha Beta.

123 HappyWarrior  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 5:47:11pm

The funniest thing Romney does is bash Europe while he is in Europe. It's one thing to and I understand to have policy differences, it's one thing to be rude and the stereotypical ugly American. The two times I've been in Europe, I've always been humbled because I see how old European civilization is compared to ours. I remember this old cemetery in Prague's Jewish quarter that went back to the 13th century.

124 prairiefire  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 5:47:20pm

"Chariots of Fire", that old chestnut.

125 b_Snark  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 5:47:25pm

re: #120 PhillyPretzel

Quick everyone buy a Thermapen. [Link: www.amazon.com...]

I wouldn't put that in my ear.
Would you put that in your ear?

126 PhillyPretzel  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 5:48:01pm

re: #125 b_sharp

I use when I cook.

127 HappyWarrior  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 5:48:11pm

re: #122 Amory Blaine

He's totally an Alpha Beta.

[Embedded content]

He always reminded me of Marmalard from Animal House. The stories about his time at prep school only re-enforced that.

128 Amory Blaine  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 5:48:18pm

Haha Rowan Atkinson doing a bit.

129 RadicalModerate  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 5:48:37pm

ROWAN ATKINSON.

Oh, and pay attention to some of the runners during the film clip. Rather interesting group of people to say the least.

130 sagehen  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 5:48:40pm

re: #123 HappyWarrior

The funniest thing Romney does is bash Europe while he is in Europe. It's one thing to and I understand to have policy differences, it's one thing to be rude and the stereotypical ugly American. The two times I've been in Europe, I've always been humbled because I see how old European civilization is compared to ours. I remember this old cemetery in Prague's Jewish quarter that went back to the 13th century.

"Americans think 100 years is a long time. Europeans think 100 miles is far away."

131 PhillyPretzel  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 5:49:40pm

re: #129 RadicalModerate

I liked that movie

132 Bubblehead II  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 5:50:58pm

re: #78 William Barnett-Lewis

Lower receiver is the only printed part but that's the key in the USA. You can get every other part over the counter. Most European countries regulate the barrels instead. He's test fired it with a .22 conversion but given how little stress the lower takes in firing, I'd use it with any well made upper.

Be fun to have the appropriate printer to do it. OTOH, if I could afford the printer, I'd be able to afford an AR15 anyway LOL!

LOL
You got that at least right.

133 calochortus  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 5:52:00pm

Ahh, dinner is magically ready, thanks to the fact that my husband made it. He will also clean up all the dishes, which is even better. Grilled tri-tip, corn, and some starch or other.

134 dragonfire1981  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 5:56:40pm

re: #124 prairiefire

"Chariots of Fire", that old chestnut.

Must...resist...urge to move in slow motion...

135 Bubblehead II  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 5:59:13pm

BTW Lizards, Time to crawl under my non Government supported rock while I suck down my last smoke for the day.

Damn , I love tweaking both beards at the same time,

136 prairiefire  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 6:00:00pm

Danny Boyle is doing a great job with the narrative of the opening ceremonies! Love the multi-culti home represent.

137 sagehen  Fri, Jul 27, 2012 6:10:16pm

re: #109 RadicalModerate

Watching the opening ceremonies to the London 2012 Olympic games, and they are celebrating two things that are an absolute anathema to American conservatives:

Children's literacy, and national healthcare.

Rightwing "pundits" are gonna be in a tizzy over this.

You know what else is going to drive them bonkers? That "Frankie" and "June", representing all of British youth, are both black.


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