Of course, it’s a political move for President Obama to release this web ad on the day Mitt Romney visits Israel. But since the right wing is hyping their completely false “Obama hates Israel” meme like angry weasels, this is a welcome answer to these deranged claims — full of facts and details about Obama’s record, and testimonials from Israeli figures.
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jaunte Sat, Jul 28, 2012 2:18:12pm |
Obama signs U.S.-Israel security act on eve of Romney trip
…The act Obama signed Friday reaffirms “unwavering commitment to the security of the State of Israel as a Jewish state” and calls for providing Israel with “the military capabilities necessary to deter and defend itself against any threat or possible combination of threats.”
It also pledges a U.S. veto of “any one-sided anti-Israel resolutions at the United Nations Security Council” and outlines U.S. support for an expanded Israeli role in NATO, increased intelligence cooperation and increased training for Israel’s air force.
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Charles Johnson Sat, Jul 28, 2012 2:18:50pm |
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jaunte Sat, Jul 28, 2012 2:23:20pm |
Current Breitbart headline:
Mayor Giuliani: Obama the least supportive President toward Israel we’ve ever had
Giuliani said Obama is the “least supportive” president toward Israel that the U.S. has ever had, “Republican or Democrat.” And he seized on Obama’s 2009 request that Israel return to 1967 borders to prove his point: “[It] would be ridiculous if they had to go back to those territorial lines. They’d be in…jeopardy with what’s going on in the Middle East right now.”
For some reason they keep leaving out the “mutually agreed” part.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sat, Jul 28, 2012 2:28:39pm |
re: #1 Kragar
Wingnuts don’t care about fact or details.
There are Higher Truths, you see. Facts are subordinate.
The Higher Truth is that Obama is a Secret Muslim out to subvert everything America stands for, which means that he hates Israel only slightly less than he hates America.
In that light, there is no need for any “facts” concerning his record.
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jaunte Sat, Jul 28, 2012 2:29:03pm |
Romney in Israel to discuss Iran, which aide calls world’s ‘biggest foreign policy challenge’
“Aides to the candidate briefly taped up an Israeli flag on board the plane before its departure from Britain on Saturday, then lowered it as reporters began taking photographs.”
[Link: politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com…]
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engineer cat Sat, Jul 28, 2012 2:30:05pm |
difficult to keep up with all the lies
Obama: Not Actually A Socialist According To Any Dictionary Definition
Birth Certificates: The How, When, Where, And What The Fuck
Being Ashamed And Apologizing For: Na Happen No How Never If You Still Think That Produce The Goddam Video Already Or Shut Up
Limbaugh: As Source For ‘What Progressives Believe’ - Gets An F Fercrissakes Do I Go Around Telling People What You Believe Asshole?
Dear Wingnuts: Web Pages On Logical Fallacies Are For What To Avoid, Not Instructions On What To Do Got It?
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engineer cat Sat, Jul 28, 2012 2:41:31pm |
re: #1 Kragar
Wingnuts don’t care about fact or details.
reality obviously has a liberal bias, so we should ignore it
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Lidane Sat, Jul 28, 2012 2:44:12pm |
re: #1 Kragar
Wingnuts don’t care about fact or details.
They also don’t care about any reality that’s happened since the Enlightenment.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sat, Jul 28, 2012 2:48:01pm |
Again, there are Higher Truths that form the basis of modern Wingnut thought: we are a Christian Nation and God’s Chosen Country, the King James translation of the Bible is the True and Inerrand Word of God, and only the unfettered Free Market is in keeping with God’s Divine Will.
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Archangelus Sat, Jul 28, 2012 3:08:39pm |
Romney Camp Breaks Precedent, Bars Press From Israel Fundraiser
JERUSALEM — In a precedent-breaking move, the Romney campaign said today it will bar reporters from attending a high-dollar fundraiser in Israel Monday morning.
No reason was given by the campaign for the change in policy for this fundraiser, other than an aide telling reporters that it is “closed press,” but the presumptive Republican presidential nominee is looking to turn the page here in Israel on a foreign trip that has so far been marred by bad press.
Closing this fundraiser will provide one less opportunity for potential missteps.
Last line emphasized by me. Understatement IMO…
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jaunte Sat, Jul 28, 2012 3:11:05pm |
Ouch:
Image: mittsheadlines.jpg
“… my suspicion is that a lot of my friends in America who are accustomed to “he said, she said” news coverage might suspect that this disaster is being blown out of proportion by the schadenfreude of delighted Obama supporters.
As your woman on the ground here in the UK, I want to assure you: IT REALLY IS THAT BAD. Here below are the Romney headlines in every British Newspaper this morning.”
[Link: obamalondon.blogspot.co.uk…]
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researchok Sat, Jul 28, 2012 3:20:43pm |
I hope CJ bumps this video to the top on Monday.
Needs to be seen by everyone.
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Archangelus Sat, Jul 28, 2012 3:20:48pm |
re: #12 jaunte
As has no doubt been pointed out elsewhere, some of the UK attacks against Romney over this are coming from conservative allies, and even from those media that belong to Rupert Murdoch, no less. Thus this is not an issue of left vs. right that as some might hope to portray it - both sides are bashing Romneybot’s bad blundering boot-failure..
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jaunte Sat, Jul 28, 2012 3:30:17pm |
Some fantastic you-are-there pictures from the Olympics on twitter.com/#olympics right now. Fun.
— dick costolo (@dickc) July 28, 2012
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researchok Sat, Jul 28, 2012 3:34:28pm |
The right is harping on Obama/Israel not so much because there is substance (there isn’t any and they know it) but rather because they believe the Israel issue is culture issue.
A liberal president by their definition, cannot be a supporter of Israel- and they will hammer that home that false message as hard as they can.
In the end they end up with a lot of very sore thumbs.
Obama’s crime in their eyes, is wanting to shakeup the status quo. He went to Egypt, extended his hand to everyone in the region and got rebuffed precisely because he would sell Israel out or buy into the institutionalized and well entrenched hate.
His allegiance is clear- he is after all a moral man.
He may not walk on water in the political sense (I’m being generous here) but his ethic and morality are beyond question. He has proved he will take the heat for doing the right thing, whether it concerns Israel or national security.
The GOP has no clothes when it comes to criticizing Obama on Israel, national security and related matters.
The irony is Obama is the real moral hero here.
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Charles Johnson Sat, Jul 28, 2012 3:46:33pm |
I’d just like to say
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sagehen Sat, Jul 28, 2012 3:52:23pm |
My sister’s gone full wingnut;
first she tells me that Romney’s going to save the economy the same way he saved companies while doing turnarounds at Bain. “Oh,” said I, “he’s going to divest underforming units and eliminate R&D? No more Mississippi or Alaska, no DARPA, no CDC. He’s going to pursue short-term surpluses at the expense of long-term security? No more Navy.”
Then she tells me he’s going to balance the budget, without making any changes to Medicare. I point her to his statements that he wants to lower the top marginal tax rate to 28%, eliminate capital gains tax altogether, and he’s signed on to the Ryan budget.
Then I point out that Romney is on record loudly proclaiming his support for positions on women’s reproductive rights and environmental policy that are exactly opposite to her declared positions.
She says never mind that, she’s still going to vote for him because he’s much better for Israel, Obama’s been crap on Israel. I ask “is there anything Israel wanted at the UN that the Obama administration failed to deliver? Were there any trade deals or weapons systems they wanted that they didn’t get? What exactly is the problem?” And she tells me he’s done nothing (nothing I tell you!! Nothing!!) about sanctions or anything else on Iran. That the only moves this country has made to block them was some Treasury Dept thing that Bush started in 2006. I point to the 5+1 negotiations, the UN resolutions he’s gotten Russia and China to sign on for, Stuxnet, surveillance drones, explosions at Iranian nuke plants and assassinations of Iranian scientists… she denies Obama could have anything to do with any of it.
Then she pointed me to a couple of full-metal-wingnut blogs — Israel Matzav and Elder of Ziyon — for more info on why Romney is Better For The Jews.
I despair.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jul 28, 2012 3:53:30pm |
re: #14 Archangelus
As has no doubt been pointed out elsewhere, some of the UK attacks against Romney over this are coming from conservative allies, and even from those media that belong to Rupert Murdoch, no less. Thus this is not an issue of left vs. right that as some might hope to portray it - both sides are bashing Romneybot’s bad blundering boot-failure..
Rupert Murdoch actually has Tweeted that he think Mit’s campaign is not being run well enough. He feels Mitt’s managers lack the correct mix of ferocity and intelligence to defeat Obama’s team.
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researchok Sat, Jul 28, 2012 3:54:29pm |
re: #19 Dark_Falcon
At this point, I’d focus on the intelligence part.
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jaunte Sat, Jul 28, 2012 3:55:50pm |
re: #18 sagehen
She may be disappointed.
As Romney heads to Israel, new poll shows Jewish Americans favor Obama
On the eve of Mitt Romney’s overseas visit to Israel, a new poll released Friday indicates Jewish Americans favor the president over Mitt Romney by a solid margin.
According to the Gallup survey, 68% of Jewish Americans back President Barack Obama, while 25% support the presumptive Republican presidential nominee.
(Results for this Gallup poll are based on telephone interviews conducted July 9-12, 2012, with a random sample of 1,014 adults, aged 18 and older, living in all 50 U.S. states and the District of Columbia. For results based on the total sample of national adults, one can say with 95% confidence that the maximum margin of sampling error is ±4 percentage points.)
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jul 28, 2012 3:56:35pm |
re: #20 researchok
At this point, I’d focus on the intelligence part.
Both are important. Unintelligent ferocity leads one to expend one’s effort in futile crusades for purist policies that cannot be realistically implemented.
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jaunte Sat, Jul 28, 2012 4:01:25pm |
re: #23 Dark_Falcon
Actually it is ‘registered voters’:
Among Jews, Obama’s current 64% to 29% advantage compares with a 74% to 23% advantage before the election in 2008. Thus, he is running 10 points lower among Jewish registered voters than in 2008, which is five points worse than his decline among all registered voters compared with 2008.
[Link: www.gallup.com…]
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jul 28, 2012 4:02:17pm |
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sagehen Sat, Jul 28, 2012 4:09:44pm |
re: #24 jaunte
Actually it is ‘registered voters’:
Jews have been consistently 65/35 D for a very long time…. Obama just got an extra bump because of anti-Palin sentiment.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Jul 28, 2012 4:11:14pm |
re: #21 jaunte
She may be disappointed.
As Romney heads to Israel, new poll shows Jewish Americans favor Obama
According to the Gallup survey, 68% of Jewish Americans back President Barack Obama, while 25% support the presumptive Republican presidential nominee.
If that holds, then Romney would do better than McCain did in 2008 (Obama 78/ McCain 22)
[Link: www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org…]
Better than any republican since 1988
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jul 28, 2012 4:12:59pm |
re: #26 sagehen
Jews have been consistently 65/35 D for a very long time… Obama just got an extra bump because of anti-Palin sentiment.
To mostly urban and suburban people, Palin’s ruralism is often off-putting. That itself could be forgiven as a normal part of the sectionalism America will always have; Her willful stupidity, however, is not forgivable.
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b_sharp Sat, Jul 28, 2012 4:25:17pm |
This comment has been fully redacted. Please follow standard …
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Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi Sat, Jul 28, 2012 4:31:48pm |
re: #32 b_sharp
Why Knot?
… collect those little metal bottle tops and nail them, upside-down, to the floor? This will give a sensation… of walking on little metal bottle-tops turned upside-down.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Jul 28, 2012 4:32:36pm |
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sattv4u2 Sat, Jul 28, 2012 4:33:16pm |
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William of Orange Sat, Jul 28, 2012 4:35:48pm |
Mitt Romney. Go fuck yourself. We are better than you
— Jeremy Clarkson (@jcrclarksonesq) July 27, 2012
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sattv4u2 Sat, Jul 28, 2012 4:36:19pm |
re: #39 b_sharp
No can do, buckaroo.
I’m still waiting for my boat to come in.
Here ya go
Complete with crew!!
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William of Orange Sat, Jul 28, 2012 4:37:12pm |
My ideas for the opening ceremony were rejected. I suggested we should crash a burning Jag into Mitt Romney.
— Jeremy Clarkson (@jcrclarksonesq) July 27, 2012
Hahaha!!!!
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b_sharp Sat, Jul 28, 2012 4:38:28pm |
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William of Orange Sat, Jul 28, 2012 4:40:43pm |
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Kragar Sat, Jul 28, 2012 4:43:10pm |
re: #44 William of Orange
Mitt Romney. Go fuck yourself. We are better than you— Jeremy Clarkson (@jcrclarksonesq) July 27, 2012
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jaunte Sat, Jul 28, 2012 4:44:03pm |
Roger Ebert has a new post up on the Olympic opening ceremony:
…”It was “the most leftie opening ceremony I have ever seen—more than Beijing, the capital of a communist state!” said the Conservative MP Aiden Burley, missing the point. The Beijing ceremony was an expression of pinpoint mass discipline, as countless well-drilled performers hit their cues like so many pixels on a computer screen. The London ceremony was an expression of good-hearted enthusiasm, not always lucid but always cheerful. It would have been unthinkable in Beijing.
[Link: blogs.suntimes.com…]
From the comments:
“It was a lovely, daft expression of all that’s best and oddest about Britain. How can it be ‘globalist forces’ when our current (Right wing, let’s not forget) Government is actively attacking the basis and structure of the NHS? Danny Boyle gave as much time and consideration to the growth of industry and capitalism in the UK as to the joys of children’s literature and technology? The NHS is a peculiarly British institution, cherished by most of us who never have to panic about medical cover being there as we’ve already paid for it, mutter and mumble though we will over waiting times and bossy nurses…
The Conservative MP has gotten a roasting off his own party for his jibes about multi-culturalism (it’s the World Olympics, you’d think he’d figure that there might be more than one culture there!) and London, and the UK generally is the one of the most diverse and vibrant societies on Earth, always has been.
Roger, your review was spot on— it was EXACTLY like the old radio ‘pictures’ come to life. Bonkers. But in a good way.”
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William of Orange Sat, Jul 28, 2012 4:48:30pm |
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darthstar Sat, Jul 28, 2012 4:49:18pm |
Panic mode! RT @politicalwire: Romney bans reporters from fundraiser, violating rules he negotiated w media in advance pwire.at/MSSzUd— Lis Smith (@Lis_Smith) July 28, 2012
Fucking coward.
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FemNaziBitch Sat, Jul 28, 2012 4:51:05pm |
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FemNaziBitch Sat, Jul 28, 2012 4:51:44pm |
re: #39 b_sharp
No can do, buckaroo.
I’m still waiting for my boat to come in.
do you have to give 5 lbs of flesh if it doesn’t?
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sattv4u2 Sat, Jul 28, 2012 4:52:03pm |
re: #45 b_sharp
Where is everybody?
Satt, did you scare them away?
They’re all looking at your crew!!
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Kragar Sat, Jul 28, 2012 4:52:10pm |
re: #49 darthstar
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Fucking coward.
Mitt keeps having real problems with things past Mitt’s said.
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b_sharp Sat, Jul 28, 2012 4:52:52pm |
re: #50 ggt
Yes, he did.
I thought so.
Now there’s nobody but you hallucinations to talk to.
I hate talking to hallucinations because I never know if I should believe what I say.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Jul 28, 2012 4:52:54pm |
re: #51 ggt
do you have to give 5 lbs of flesh if it doesn’t?
My boat came in
Problem was, I was at the airport at the time
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William of Orange Sat, Jul 28, 2012 4:54:47pm |
Mitt Romney is at the Olympics. Mitt said he loves watching people from other countries work for no money.
— Conan O’Brien (@ConanOBrien) July 27, 2012
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gwangung Sat, Jul 28, 2012 4:55:59pm |
So, is the Mittster still saying Arab Spring is a problem?
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William of Orange Sat, Jul 28, 2012 4:56:11pm |
re: #49 darthstar
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Fucking coward.
Clever! In this way future Mitt will not be sandbagged by Retroactive Mitt.
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b_sharp Sat, Jul 28, 2012 4:56:50pm |
re: #58 gwangung
So, is the Mittster still saying Arab Spring is a problem?
Does he really know what it is?
He may think it’s some sort of fancy soap.
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FemNaziBitch Sat, Jul 28, 2012 5:00:52pm |
re: #59 William of Orange
Clever! In this way future Mitt will not be sandbagged by Retroactive Mitt.
I thought that said “radioactive” at first.
How frightful!
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FemNaziBitch Sat, Jul 28, 2012 5:01:25pm |
re: #54 b_sharp
I thought so.
Now there’s nobody but you hallucinations to talk to.
I hate talking to hallucinations because I never know if I should believe what I say.
Doesn’t matter, you won’t remember when the drugs kick-in.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Jul 28, 2012 5:01:29pm |
Another “leak” from the Obama administration…
Netanyahu, Obama aide discussed possibility of Iran strike, U.S. official says
The U.S. national security adviser has shared with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu the United States’ contingency plans for a possible attack on Iran.
According to a senior American official, National Security Advisor Tom Donilon briefed Netanyahu on the plans during Donilon’s visit to Israel two weeks ago. According to the official, who requested anonymity, Netanyahu hosted Donilon at a three-hour dinner. For part of the time, Israel’s national security adviser, Yaakov Amidror, was on hand.
Donilon sought to make clear that the United States is seriously preparing for the possibility that negotiations will reach a dead end and military action will become necessary. He said reports of such preparations were not just a way to assuage Israel’s concerns.
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gwangung Sat, Jul 28, 2012 5:01:36pm |
re: #60 b_sharp
Does he really know what it is?
He may think it’s some sort of fancy soap.
Hm. Good point…
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engineer cat Sat, Jul 28, 2012 5:01:39pm |
re: #58 gwangung
So, is the Mittster still saying Arab Spring is a problem?
muslims are scary and somehow obama did something wrong because muslims
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Varek Raith Sat, Jul 28, 2012 5:02:11pm |
re: #66 engineer cat
muslims are scary and somehow obama did something wrong because muslims
Also, Muslims.
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FemNaziBitch Sat, Jul 28, 2012 5:02:32pm |
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William of Orange Sat, Jul 28, 2012 5:03:39pm |
re: #59 William of Orange
Clever! In this way future Mitt will not be sandbagged by Retroactive Mitt.
Speaking of Retroactive Mitt…. Remember this?
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engineer cat Sat, Jul 28, 2012 5:08:10pm |
Mitt Inc™ Announces All Future Statements By Mitt Inc™ Will Be Pre-Retroactivated, Un-Stipulateable, Non-Quoteable, And Permamently Out-Of-Context
any positions not already complemented with an opposite position will be contradicted at an indefinite future time
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William of Orange Sat, Jul 28, 2012 5:11:12pm |
UK and US press cooperated to exaggerate Romney off- tune gaffe, but no denying MrsObama proved great ambassador, even with broccoli talk!
— Rupert Murdoch(@rupertmurdoch) July 28, 2012
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b_sharp Sat, Jul 28, 2012 5:14:22pm |
re: #70 engineer cat
Mitt Inc™ Announces All Future Statements By Mitt Inc™ Will Be Pre-Retroactivated, Un-Stipulateable, Non-Quoteable, And Permamently Out-Of-Context
any positions not already complemented with an opposite position will be contradicted at an indefinite future time
Say “What?”.
| 74 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Jul 28, 2012 5:15:03pm |
re: #64 Killgore Trout
Another “leak” from the Obama administration…
Netanyahu, Obama aide discussed possibility of Iran strike, U.S. official says
I wonder if that hand is still extended out!?!?!
| 75 |
TedStriker Sat, Jul 28, 2012 5:15:26pm |
| 76 |
jaunte Sat, Jul 28, 2012 5:15:45pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Jul 28, 2012 5:16:31pm |
re: #4 jaunte
Current Breitbart headline:
For some reason they keep leaving out the “mutually agreed” part.
Also, the fact that Bush made exactly the same statement, using the term ‘1949 armistice lines’.
I had a guy explain to me why that was totally different. Apparently from Obama, it was policy, and Bush was just talkin’.
| 78 |
Killgore Trout Sat, Jul 28, 2012 5:16:55pm |
re: #74 sattv4u2
I wonder if that hand is still extended out!?!?!
I’m sure it is but nobody expects negotiations to work. At some point a choice will have to be made.
| 79 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Jul 28, 2012 5:17:12pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Jul 28, 2012 5:21:39pm |
re: #21 jaunte
She may be disappointed.
As Romney heads to Israel, new poll shows Jewish Americans favor Obama
Obama got 83% of the Jewish vote in 2008, so if those numbers are real, they do represent a loss. I suspect that actual voting numbers will be substantially higher for Obama however.
This doesn’t necessarily speak poorly of Romney, though, it’s just that Jews vote for Democrats, and so far, the ‘we like Israel so much better’ plot has not worked very well for the GOP.
| 81 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Jul 28, 2012 5:22:47pm |
re: #80 SanFranciscoZionist
Obama got 83% of the Jewish vote in 2008, so if those numbers are real, they do represent a loss
You’ll get there eventually, but see #27
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engineer cat Sat, Jul 28, 2012 5:24:57pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Jul 28, 2012 5:25:06pm |
re: #60 b_sharp
Does he really know what it is?
He may think it’s some sort of fancy soap.
Cardamom and rock rose. Probably produced by Amouage. Very expensive.
| 84 |
engineer cat Sat, Jul 28, 2012 5:26:27pm |
the election cannot be over until mitt contradicts everything he’s ever said
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sattv4u2 Sat, Jul 28, 2012 5:31:56pm |
| 89 |
FemNaziBitch Sat, Jul 28, 2012 6:06:14pm |
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jul 28, 2012 6:40:47pm |
re: #46 Kragar
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— Kurt Akemann (@Dark_Falcon7) July 29, 2012
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Patricia Kayden Mon, Jul 30, 2012 4:44:41pm |
re: #18 sagehen
Cheer up. I’ve seen polls that between 60-75% of Jews support Obama. I think all this Rightwing Christianist nonsense is scary to Jews (and even liberal Christians like me) and doesn’t sell outside of the extreme conservative world.
Ehud Barak strongly praised Obama, so not every Israeli leader despises him.
[Link: www.politico.com…]
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