Fake Wingnut Outrage of the Day: Obama Canceled Bin Laden Raid! Gasp!

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As soon as word broke that Osama bin Laden had been killed in Pakistan by a SEAL team, right wingers started working diligently to deny the accomplishment to President Obama.

The latest ludicrous “bombshell scoop” being trumpeted all over the right wing blogs is the “stunning revelation” that President Obama exercised caution in the operation, and called it off several times. The Daily Caller’s breathless headline: Book Bombshell: Obama Canceled Bin Laden ‘Kill’ Raid Three Times at Jarrett’s Urging.

At the urging of Valerie Jarrett, President Barack Obama canceled the operation to kill Osama bin Laden on three separate occasions before finally approving the May 2, 2011 Navy SEAL mission, according to an explosive new book scheduled for release August 21. The Daily Caller has seen a portion of the chapter in which the stunning revelation appears.

In ”Leading From Behind: The Reluctant President and the Advisors Who Decide for Him,“ Richard Miniter writes that Obama canceled the “kill” mission in January 2011, again in February, and a third time in March. Obama’s close adviser Valerie Jarrett persuaded him to hold off each time, according to the book.

Miniter, a two-time New York Times best-selling author, cites an unnamed source with Joint Special Operations Command who had direct knowledge of the operation and its planning.

Why is this a “bombshell?” Don’t we want a President to plan carefully and consult with advisers in such an important matter? Would the wingnuts prefer we just send in the SEALS with guns blazing, regardless of the conditions, wild west-style?

It’s yet another ridiculous fake outrage, and all the right wing blogs are parroting it in unison, once again. Wingnuts live in their own universe these days, with its own rules and strange assumptions about reality.

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98 comments
1 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:16:31am

Well, I'm sure when Mitt becomes president he will order the bin Laden raid so we can finally get that sumbitch. //

2 Kragarghazi  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:17:06am

Another shocker: Eisenhower cancelled the D-Day invasion!

3 erik_t  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:18:11am

Heaven fucking forbid we wait until we were sure.

4 Bipartite Gnomenclature  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:18:59am

The RWNJ are trying awful hard to convince themselves Obama hasn't accomplished anything. They sound like a kid trying to convince himself he won't get a spanking for tearing his dad's Mickey Mantle trading card.

5 lawhawk  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:19:03am

The flip side of the argument that the right was making that he had nothing to do with the process - he was micro managing to the point of canceling the raid on multiple occasions.

[facepalm]

And it ignores that President Obama green lit the raid that did kill OBL.

Let's repeat that for good measure - even if the President shut down prior attempts at a raid, he green lit the one that did take out OBL. Maybe it was working on more solid intel. Maybe they wanted to maximize the chances for success once they narrowed down where OBL was located. Maybe they wanted to maximize the training for the team that got OBL.

Whatever it was, the end result is that OBL was killed on the President's watch. The GOP can't seem to abide by that simple inalienable fact.

6 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:19:13am

WTF? There are many complex factors that can cause an operation to be aborted. Obviously the operation had to be postponed, not canceled.

7 blueraven  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:20:21am

Oh for goodness sake. I dont think Jarret is running military operations.
If he called it off for some reason, which is doubtful, I am pretty sure there were more important factors.

This just doesn't comport with what Admiral McRaven says about the mission.

8 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:20:22am

How many "Kill Osama" operations did G.W. Bush cancel?

9 Bipartite Gnomenclature  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:20:28am

re: #5 lawhawk

The flip side of the argument that the right was making that he had nothing to do with the process - he was micro managing to the point of canceling the raid on multiple occasions.

[facepalm]

And it ignores that President Obama green lit the raid that did kill OBL.

Let's repeat that for good measure - even if the President shut down prior attempts at a raid, he green lit the one that did take out OBL. Maybe it was working on more solid intel. Maybe they wanted to maximize the chances for success once they narrowed down where OBL was located. Maybe they wanted to maximize the training for the team that got OBL.

Whatever it was, the end result is that OBL was killed on the President's watch. The GOP can't seem to abide by that simple inalienable fact.

If they missed him, he would bury himself so far underground the opportunity would never resurface.

10 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:20:39am

Eisenhower cancelled D-Day once and was on the verge of doing so again when he finally gave the order to go ahead. It is a prudent thing for commanders to do, and not at all unusual in complex operations.

11 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:20:51am

re: #6 Learned Mother of Zion

WTF? There are many complex factors that can cause an operation to be aborted. Obviously the operation had to be postponed, not canceled.

I don't think 'cancel' means what these rwnj think it means.

12 Bipartite Gnomenclature  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:21:00am

re: #8 Learned Mother of Zion

How many "Kill Osama" operations did G.W. Bush cancel?

All of them.

13 researchok  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:21:25am

I'm sure he did cancel after a few false starts.

He wanted to make sure he got the job done the first time. A miss would have driven OBL underground.

That's what happened after the miss at Tora Bora

Obama waited for exactly the right time to pull the trigger..

They call that nerves of steel.

14 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:21:52am
Whatever it was, the end result is that OBL was killed on the President's watch. The GOP can't seem to abide by that simple inalienable fact.

This.

But, hey, if conservatives want to call attention to this fact, again and again, then please by all means, let them go ahead and do that.

15 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:22:45am

Henry Ford, zombie or vampire?

16 Chuckieghazi  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:23:19am

The author of this stupid book, Richard Miniter, also attacked me personally when I broke ranks with the "counter-jihad" idiots, and tried to whitewash the fascist Belgian Vlaams Belang party: Miniter Misrepresents LGF Vlaams Belang Posts (Aka Vlaams Belang Nazi Links).

He's another right wing hack, with no compunctions about hanging around with outright racists and fascists.

17 BARACK THE VOTE  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:23:25am

The wingnuts are just desperate to deny Obama any credit for the death of Osama, and this is just the latest iteration of that meme. Earlier wingnut versions included: It's not really Obama in the situation room! And: It is Obama but look at his position, he was called to the situation room late! etc, etc.

18 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:23:27am
The latest ludicrous “bombshell scoop” being trumpeted all over the right wing blogs today is the “stunning revelation” that President Obama exercised caution in the operation, and called it off several times: Book Bombshell: Obama Canceled Bin Laden ‘Kill’ Raid Three Times at Jarrett’s Urging.

But heaven forbid POTUS run an ad or call attention to this accomplishment himself. That would be 'politicizing' the issue and 'spiking the football'. /

19 wrenchghaziwenchghazi  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:24:34am

They would have preferred another Jimmy Carter. He was easier to beat in his reelection attempt.

20 Gus  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:24:49am

Like I said before. These wound up righties are always looking for any excuse to complain. Obama get OBL but they have to add something to whine about. Yeah, Truman also cancelled the invasion of Japan.

21 Bipartite Gnomenclature  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:25:19am

re: #15 Learned Mother of Zion

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Henry Ford, zombie or vampire?

Yes.

22 efuseakay  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:25:20am

re: #8 Learned Mother of Zion

How many "Kill Osama" operations did G.W. Bush cancel?

None. Remember. He wasn't concerned with him at all and had no idea where he was. Kind of like Iraq's WMD.

23 Gus  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:26:17am

re: #17 Millicent Islam

The wingnuts are just desperate to deny Obama any credit for the death of Osama, and this is just the latest iteration of that meme. Earlier wingnut versions included: It's not really Obama in the situation room! And: It is Obama but look at his position, he was called to the situation room late! etc, etc.

Hey! They're military "experts!" Some of them were even avionics technicians for 4 years tops. That makes them an expert on all things military! The rest are the usual cadre of big mouth chickenhawks and armchair generals.

24 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:27:18am

I'm alive today because of operations that were cancelled when someone spotted a 37mm AA gun in the LZ, or it was in the middle of an NVA division that had moved overnight, etc.
This is routine stuff, the more difficult and risky the operation, the more likely it is to be postponed or changed. Only morons could not grasp this.

25 researchok  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:28:03am

re: #23 Gus

Hey! They're military "experts!" Some of them were even avionics technicians for 4 years tops. That makes them an expert on all things military! The rest are the usual cadre of big mouth chickenhawks and armchair generals.

Or cooks.

Some were cooks.

26 Gus  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:29:14am

re: #16 Charles Johnson

The author of this stupid book, Richard Miniter, also attacked me personally when I broke ranks with the "counter-jihad" idiots, and tried to whitewash the fascist Belgian Vlaams Belang party: Miniter Misrepresents LGF Vlaams Belang Posts (Aka Vlaams Belang Nazi Links).

He's another right wing hack, with no compunctions about hanging around with outright racists and fascists.

Image: Miniter%20in%20PJs.jpg

27 Gus  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:30:49am
28 dragonath  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:31:26am

Okay, so lets review. Wingnut Logic.

OBAMA PUT THE SEALS INTO HARM'S WAY

OBAMA KILLED BIN LADEN SO HE COULD TAKE THE CREDIT

OBAMA LISTENED TO HIS ADVISORS AND MADE A REASONED DECISION

THE HORROR

29 Gus  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:31:31am
30 Varek Raith  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:32:28am

Osama is still dead.
Point.
Set.
Match.

31 GunstarGreen  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:32:37am

This just in, shocking news: sometimes successful operations had to be delayed until the time was right.

More news, with film, at 11.

32 erik_t  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:32:50am

re: #28 Fred Galt

Okay, so lets review. Wingnut Logic.

OBAMA PUT THE SEALS INTO HARM'S WAY

OBAMA KILLED BIN LADEN SO HE COULD TAKE THE CREDIT

OBAMA LISTENED TO HIS ADVISORS AND MADE A REASONED DECISION

THE HORROR

Edited for conciseness.

33 Daniel Ballard  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:32:55am

Arguing with success is the stupidest argument there is.

34 Bipartite Gnomenclature  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:33:40am

re: #29 Gus

Image: nri126_002.jpg

Look at those red evil eyes. It sends shivers down my back.

35 blueraven  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:33:47am

re: #17 Millicent Islam

The wingnuts are just desperate to deny Obama any credit for the death of Osama, and this is just the latest iteration of that meme. Earlier wingnut versions included: It's not really Obama in the situation room! And: It is Obama but look at his position, he was called to the situation room late! etc, etc.

Indeed

“President Obama’s greatest success was actually his greatest failure,” Miniter told The Daily Caller Friday.

*facepalm*
Who do they think they are fooling with this BS?

Read more: [Link: dailycaller.com...]

36 Kragarghazi  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:33:53am

re: #33 Daniel Ballard

Arguing with success is the stupidest argument there is.

MITT WOULD HAVE DONE IT BETTER!
/

37 Kragarghazi  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:34:21am

re: #35 blueraven

Indeed

*facepalm*
Who do they think they are fooling with this BS?

Read more: [Link: dailycaller.com...]

The same dumbasses who buy their books.

38 Bipartite Gnomenclature  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:34:24am

re: #32 erik_t

Edited for conciseness.

Marsha, Marsha, Marsha.

39 freetoken  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:34:52am

re: #16 Charles Johnson

Miniter is the author of Losing Bin Laden. He's probably just out to sell more books, and like so many ventures, a shot at a sequel is always worth a try.

Miniter was an editor at the MooneyTimes... until the Moonies really tried to convert him. I guess he won a settlement out of court.

40 erik_t  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:35:03am

re: #17 Millicent Islam

The wingnuts are just desperate to deny Obama any credit for the death of Osama, and this is just the latest iteration of that meme. Earlier wingnut versions included: It's not really Obama in the situation room! And: It is Obama but look at his position, he was called to the situation room late! etc, etc.

Obama was against the raid from the beginning. I can tell from the pixels in the layers.

41 mr.fusion  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:35:41am

It's all about this IMO:

Obama’s close adviser Valerie Jarrett persuaded him to hold off each time.

They just hate Jarrett don't they? Jarrett, Holder, Van Jones, Shirley Sherrod.......if only I could figure out what they all have in common. There must be something

42 Bipartite Gnomenclature  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:35:50am

re: #40 erik_t

Obama was against the raid from the beginning. I can tell from the pixels in the layers.

Obama is like an Onion.

43 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:36:18am

re: #36 Kragar

MITT WOULD HAVE DONE IT BETTER!
/

Mitt would have nuked them from orbit, with a few strikes against Iran as a diversion and, well, just because.

44 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:36:20am

re: #33 Daniel Ballard

Arguing with success is the stupidest argument there is.

Rightwingers sure are funny that way.

But please Koch Industry SuperPac: Please run some ads on this.

45 erik_t  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:36:25am

re: #42 b_sharp

Obama is like an Onion.

And you know who uses a lot of onions in their cooking? The Soviets.

46 Gus  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:36:41am

These people are unreal.

47 dragonath  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:36:45am

re: #29 Gus

Image: nri126_002.jpg

“I generally refrain from speech during gestation, there are those who attempt both at the same time... I find it coarse and vulgar...”

48 Bipartite Gnomenclature  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:38:25am

re: #33 Daniel Ballard

Arguing with success is the stupidest argument there is.

Desperate measures.

49 BARACK THE VOTE  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:38:26am

re: #23 Gus

Hey! They're military "experts!" Some of them were even avionics technicians for 4 years tops. That makes them an expert on all things military! The rest are the usual cadre of big mouth chickenhawks and armchair generals.

Their whole relation to actual military things is one of fantasy-- pushing little figures around a map.

i recently read Hugh Trevor-Ropers book "The Last Days of Hitler"" and that was pretty much what Hitler was doing at the end: directing imaginary armies.

50 Varek Raith  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:39:56am

I iz navy warfare xpert.
Image: Electronic%20Battleship%20(4).JPG

51 Bipartite Gnomenclature  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:41:12am

Has anybody on the RWNJ wagon thought to ask Miniter if he was able to interview Osama bin Laden?

52 jaunte  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:42:04am
At the urging of Valerie Jarrett, President Barack Obama canceled the operation to kill Osama bin Laden on three separate occasions before finally approving the May 2, 2011 Navy SEAL mission

I stopped at some red lights on the way in this morning. It doesn't mean I quit my job.

53 Bipartite Gnomenclature  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:42:57am

re: #50 Varek Raith

I iz navy warfare xpert.
Image: Electronic%20Battleship%20(4).JPG

A4.

54 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:43:10am

re: #51 b_sharp

Has anybody on the RWNJ wagon thought to ask Miniter if he was able to interview Osama bin Laden?

No fair! You're spiking the football!

55 Kragarghazi  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:44:40am

re: #50 Varek Raith

I iz navy warfare xpert.
Image: Electronic%20Battleship%20(4).JPG

Wait a sec...

THERE AREN'T ANY FUCKING ALIENS IN THAT GAME!!!

56 Gus  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:44:57am

re: #49 Millicent Islam

Their whole relation to actual military things is one of fantasy-- pushing little figures around a map.

i recently read Hugh Trevor-Ropers book "The Last Days of Hitler"" and that was pretty much what Hitler was doing at the end: directing imaginary armies.

It is basically "the usual suspects." We all remember the stupidity surrounding Obama's first military acts during the Somali pirate raid. Suddenly the local bagger and shopping cart attendant at Shop Rite becomes a military expert. ;)

57 efuseakay  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:46:14am

re: #36 Kragar

MITT WOULD HAVE DONE IT BETTER!
/

Mitt would have killed Bin Laden moar deader!

58 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:46:43am

Commander in Chief is the most important of the president's various roles. To the surprise of some, Obama has proven himself to be a courageous and competent commander. Romney's military experience does not exist. The wingnuts know this, at least subconsciously, and it tears at them like thorns.

59 simoom  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:49:00am

The Right seems awfully invested in arguing with success. I'd be shocked if Miniter's source even has any idea what he's talking about. Sounds like someone's on the outside looking in and speculating as to motivations.

Oh, and fear the vettening (///):

Leading from Behind: The Reluctant President and the Advisors Who Decide for Him [Hardcover]
Richard Miniter (Author)

Book Description
Publication Date: August 21, 2012

Barack Obama has never been fully vetted—until now.

60 researchok  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:49:21am

re: #58 Shiplord Kirel

Obama has got the right stuff.

In this arena, he's a natural.

The ideal officer CFR candidate

61 AK-47%  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:51:47am

There are Larger Truths at stake here, one of them being that Obama is a terrorist appeaser and an foreign-policy apologist.

Objective facts are subordiate to these Larger Truths

62 Targetpractice  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:52:00am

I guess the old saying is wrong, you CAN argue with success.

63 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:52:14am

re: #59 simoom

The Right seems awfully invested in arguing with success. I'd be shocked if Miniter's source even has any idea what he's talking about. Sounds like someone's on the outside looking in and speculating as to motivations.

Oh, and fear the vettening (///):

This sounds like a really super smart strategery. Way to go RWNJ.

And just as it seemed Romneybot has had a couple of good weeks.

64 simoom  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:53:10am

From a few days ago:

Politico - McRaven gives 'fantastic' Obama credit for bin Laden raid

Republicans trying to play down President Barack Obama's decision to launch the raid that led to the death of Al Qaeda founder Osama bin Laden are not getting much help from the military brass who oversaw the operation.

During a rare public interview on Wednesday, Adm. Bill McRaven, head of the U.S. Special Operations command, portrayed as bold and brave Obama's decision to order the raid despite significant doubts about whether bin Laden was at the Abbottabad, Pakistan compound.

"At the end of the day, make no mistake about it, it was the president of the United States that shouldered the burden of this operation, that made the hard decision," McRaven said during an on-stage interview with CNN's Wolf Blitzer that served as the kickoff session of the Aspen Security Forum.

Presumptive GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney has suggested that the decision to launch the raid was a no-brainer. "Even Jimmy Carter would have given that order," Romney said in April.

McRaven refused to respond Wednesday when asked whether he agreed with Romney that any president would have made the same decision Obama did. However, at a couple of junctures, the Special Operations commander offered effusive praise for Obama.

"The president of the United States is fantastic," the admiral said. "I'm not a political guy. I've worked in both [administrations,] very much enjoyed working with President Bush and I very much enjoy working for President Obama. This isn't about politics. This is about a Commander in Chief who I have the opportunity to engage with on a routine basis."

McRaven also had high praise for Obama's national security team, including those in place at the time of the raid, such as then-Secretary of Defense Robert Gates, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, then-Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Admiral Mike Mullen, National Security Adviser Tom Donilon, Deputy National Security Advisers Denis McDonough and John Brennan.

"I'm not a political guy, but I’ll tell you as an interested observer of this, they were magnfiicent how they handled the start-to-finish," McRaven said. "The president asked all the right questions…The president gave me ample time to prepare once the conversations were through."

65 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:53:12am

I could be accused of armchair generalship when I give strategic opinions, since I was actually only a colonel. In all modesty though, that is incomparably more expertise than these wingnut Pattons can muster.

66 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:56:40am

re: #64 simoom

Obviously the Military Brass has been invaded and infiltrated by the Muslim Brotherhood. /

67 researchok  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:56:48am

re: #65 Shiplord Kirel

Hey, you're in good company.

Harlan Sanders was a colonel and look at how beloved he is. The man sure knew what he was doing.
//

68 jaunte  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:56:59am

Dick Cheney calls President Obama ‘one of our weakest presidents’

“I wouldn’t say he’s been soft on terror, but I think he’s made a number of mistakes,” Cheney said.

Former Vice-President Cheney headed an anti-terror task force that never met until after 9/11:

In January of 2001, the U.S. Government's bipartisan Commission on National Security gave the White House a report that warned of an attack on the homeland and urged the new Administration to implement its specific "recommendations to prevent acts of domestic terrorism. The Administration rejected the Commission's report, "preferring to put aside the recommendations." Instead, the Administration waited until May of 2001 to appoint Vice President Cheney to head a task force "to combat terrorist attacks on the United States." But according to the Washington Post, neither "Cheney's review nor Bush's took place." Meanwhile, Newsweek reported that when senators "sent a copy of draft legislation on counterterrorism and homeland defense to Cheney's office on July 20," they were told by Cheney's top aide "that it might be another six months before he would be able to review the material."

[Source: Salon, 9/12/04; White House release, 5/8/01; Washington Post, 1/20/02; Newsweek, 5/27/02]
[Link: www.americanprogress.org...]

69 wrenchghaziwenchghazi  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:58:23am

re: #68 jaunte

Dick Cheney calls President Obama ‘one of our weakest presidents’

“I wouldn’t say he’s been soft on terror, but I think he’s made a number of mistakes,” Cheney said.

Former Vice-President Cheney headed an anti-terror task force that never met until after 9/11:

But that's only one mistake.

70 Kragarghazi  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:59:13am

Think of how many lives could have been saved over the years if all those military experts hadn't been chickenshit and done everything in their power to avoid actually serving in the military? They must truly hate America since they deprived its armed forces of their greatness.

71 andres  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 12:03:58pm

re: #70 Kragar

Think of how many lives could have been saved over the years if all those military experts hadn't been chickenshit and done everything in their power to avoid actually serving in the military? They must truly hate America since they deprived its armed forces of their greatness.

This is one of the things to admire of JFK: whether you agree with him or not, you can't argue he was a chickenhawk, because he, while having all the opportunities to skip the war, decided to go to it.

72 Bipartite Gnomenclature  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 12:06:18pm

re: #69 wrenchwench

Former Vice-President Cheney headed an anti-terror task force that never met until after 9/11:

But that's only one mistake.

Cheney shot a 'friend' and all the friend was doing was standing there.

73 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 12:09:18pm

re: #8 Learned Mother of Zion

How many "Kill Osama" operations did G.W. Bush cancel?

Note: If the answer is "NONE!" that's not very impressive.

74 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 12:09:53pm

re: #15 Learned Mother of Zion

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Henry Ford, zombie or vampire?

S.O.B.

75 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 12:11:54pm

re: #41 mr.fusion

It's all about this IMO:

They just hate Jarrett don't they? Jarrett, Holder, Van Jones, Shirley Sherrod...if only I could figure out what they all have in common. There must be something

You know what's hilarious? I didn't know Jarrett was black until you posted that, but I knew immediately what you meant anyway.

Le sigh.

76 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 12:13:19pm

re: #57 efuseakay

Mitt would have killed Bin Laden moar deader!

With his bare hands!

(My husband's addition.)

77 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 12:13:58pm

re: #66 Bulworth

Obviously the Military Brass has been invaded and infiltrated by the Muslim Brotherhood. /

You think you're kidding. These people take that literally.

78 MikeTheModerateDemocrat  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 12:14:22pm

So which one is it. The president has no bearing on whether he's captured or the president has the say? Wingnuts would of course suspend all logic and want it both ways, when the capture is ordered give no credit. When the action is delayed assign all blame.

79 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 12:14:47pm

re: #68 jaunte

Dick Cheney calls President Obama ‘one of our weakest presidents’

Former Vice-President Cheney headed an anti-terror task force that never met until after 9/11:

The description of Cheney and his wife right after 9/11 in "Against All Enemies" is hilarious.

80 theheat  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 12:17:47pm

re: #68 jaunte

Cheney's so trigger happy he'll shoot his friends if it strikes his fancy. It takes a helluva leader to shoot canned hunts and attorneys. //

81 Steve  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 12:58:16pm

I like the fourth and the fifth paragraph in the article that says:
At the time, the White House blamed the delay on unfavorable weather conditions near bin Laden’s compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan.

But when Miniter obtained that day’s weather reports from the U.S. Air Force Combat Meteorological Center, he said, they showed ideal conditions for the SEALs to carry out their orders.

82 Obdicut  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 1:00:02pm

re: #81 Steve

Why do you like it?

83 Steve  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 1:02:53pm

re: #82 Obdicut

Why do you ask?

84 Obdicut  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 1:05:10pm

re: #83 Steve

Why do you ask?

Because I'm curious as to why you like that section. There's not really a lot going on there, so... what do you like about it?

85 Steve  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 1:09:42pm

re: #84 Obdicut

Because somehow I see/feel a disconnect between:

Why is this a “bombshell?” Don’t we want a President to plan carefully and consult with advisers in such an important matter? Would the wingnuts prefer we just send in the SEALS with guns blazing, regardless of the conditions, wild west-style?

and,

At the time, the White House blamed the delay on unfavorable weather conditions near bin Laden’s compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan.

But when Miniter obtained that day’s weather reports from the U.S. Air Force Combat Meteorological Center, he said, they showed ideal conditions for the SEALs to carry out their orders.

I cannot explain it but it is just a feeling!

86 Romantic Heretic  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 1:10:39pm

re: #11 Bulworth

I don't think 'cancel' means what these rwnj think it means.

When I use a word it means exactly what I want it to mean. No more and no less. - Humpty Dumpty

Which, you must admit, is what the RWNJ bear a fair resemblance to.

87 S'latch  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 1:13:47pm

"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him."
- President George W. Bush, 9/13/01

"Kaboom! Mission Accomplished!"
– President Barack Obama, announcing bin Laden’s death in East Room of the White House, 5/1/11

"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
- President George W. Bush, 3/13/02

88 Aye Pod  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 1:16:27pm
“President Obama’s greatest success was actually his greatest failure,”

...so fap the wingnuts.

Yes Obamas failure in successfully killing Bin Laden was a diversion from Bush's triumph in completely failing to kill him. Another liberal conspiracy unmasked.

PS My fucknuttery detector just blew another valve.

89 Romantic Heretic  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 1:20:35pm

re: #58 Shiplord Kirel

Commander in Chief is the most important of the president's various roles. To the surprise of some, Obama has proven himself to be a courageous and competent commander. Romney's military experience does not exist. The wingnuts know this, at least subconsciously, and it tears at them like thorns.

Worse. Mitt won't ask for help from the people that are experts. In fact he'll probably fire the experts and export their jobs to China.

90 Kragarghazi  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 1:20:58pm

The Daily Caller's Highly Suspect Bin Laden Raid "Bombshell"

The Daily Caller reported late last night that they obtained an exclusive first look at Richard Miniter's forthcoming book Leading From Behind: The Reluctant President and the Advisors Who Decide for Him, which contains the "bombshell" allegation (sourced to a single anonymous official) that in the first three months of 2011, President Obama thrice canceled the mission to kill Osama bin Laden. Miniter's and the Caller's reporting is contradicted by previous in-depth reports indicating that the plan for the raid wasn't delivered to the president until the end of March, and training for the operation didn't begin until mid-April, meaning that there wasn't yet a "mission" for the president to cancel.

91 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 1:24:59pm
But when Miniter obtained that day’s weather reports from the U.S. Air Force Combat Meteorological Center, he said, they showed ideal conditions for the SEALs to carry out their orders.

Well, there it is: Obama blew it. /

And if Miniter says the conditions were ideal, then they were ideal. /

92 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 1:25:59pm

Can't believe Obama canceled the raids to get OBL. FAIL. Must be because he hates America. //

93 Obdicut  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 1:26:08pm

re: #85 Steve

A) Why are you putting any faith in the weirdo who wrote the book?

B) Why do you think that 'bad weather' might not be used as a cover for any number of other reasons to call it off that one wouldn't want to admit, lest it betray the intelligence source it came from?

94 Romantic Heretic  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 1:26:40pm

re: #68 jaunte

Dick Cheney calls President Obama ‘one of our weakest presidents’

Former Vice-President Cheney headed an anti-terror task force that never met until after 9/11:

The first order of business of the first meeting of the Bush 43 security council was discussing the invasion of Iraq.

95 Patricia Kayden  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 4:19:57pm

This story makes me like Obama more. He's steady, assured, thoughtful and careful. So what if he carefully planned the raid and didn't haphazardly attempt to kill Bin Laden? Can you imagine what the Rightwing would have done if Obama tried AND FAILED to kill/capture Bin Laden?

Dang, he'd be impeached and quartered.

96 Gus  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 4:44:45pm

re: #81 Steve

I like the fourth and the fifth paragraph in the article that says:
At the time, the White House blamed the delay on unfavorable weather conditions near bin Laden’s compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan.

But when Miniter obtained that day’s weather reports from the U.S. Air Force Combat Meteorological Center, he said, they showed ideal conditions for the SEALs to carry out their orders.

This is absurd. You're questioning a successful mission that took place within Pakistan's borders in the dead of night? You ever stop and think what would be ideal condition for such a mission? It might not be a clear full moon lit night and instead be a foggy night under a new moon. There's many possibilities but in the end the got OBL. Enough of the beclowning because you're not only sounding foolish but you all are sounding rather bitter and jealous that this happened under Obama's watch. When in the end it wasn't don't for "a party" but for the nation. Get that through your thick skulls. Osama bin Laden is dead and stop playing fort and cowboys and Indians.

97 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 4:47:16pm

re: #72 b_sharp

But that's only one mistake.

Cheney shot a 'friend' and all the friend was doing was standing there.

I think they were all wasted.

OTOH, it did lead to a great song:

98 labman57  Tue, Jul 31, 2012 8:43:40am

It's incredible how Obama's successes pain right wingers so greatly that they have to go fishing for reasons to minimize his achievements.

Obama got him, Bush didn't. End of story.


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