Romney Parrots False #Breitbart.com Claim That Obama Is Trying to Restrict Military Voting

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Mitt Romney is lying again: Romney Falsely Claims Obama Filed Lawsuit to Restrict Military Voting.

Today on Facebook, Mitt Romney claims that the Obama campaign is trying to “undermine” the ability of members of the military to vote in Ohio:

President Obama’s lawsuit claiming it is unconstitutional for Ohio to allow servicemen and women extended early voting privileges during the state’s early voting period is an outrage. The brave men and women of our military make tremendous sacrifices to protect and defend our freedoms, and we should do everything we can to protect their fundamental right to vote. I stand with the fifteen military groups that are defending the rights of military voters, and if I’m entrusted to be the commander-in-chief, I’ll work to protect the voting rights of our military, not undermine them.

This certainly sounds outrageous, but it is not true. Since 2005, Ohio has had in person early-voting in the three days prior to the election. This year, however, the Republican legislature in Ohio eliminated early voting during this period, except for members of the military. The Obama lawsuit is attempting to restore voting rights for all Ohioans, not restrict them for the military or any other group.

Would you be surprised to learn that this latest Big Lie originated at breitbart.com? LGF author b_sharp was all over this story three days ago: #Breitbart.com Just Can’t Understand That Darn Legalese.

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1 erik_t  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:17:19am

Sorry for instant OT, but what the shit.

We are getting reports that 20 to 30 people have been injured in a shooting before 11 a.m. Sunday at the Sikh Temple, 7512 S. Howell Ave., in Oak Creek.

Two shooters are possibly still inside with children as hostages, according to someone who sent a text message to a [Milwaukee] Journal Sentinel reporter.

2 b_snark  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:17:23am

Every time somebody pins them to the floor over an imaginary left-wing immoral act, the #RWNJ will find another way to spin it.

3 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:17:51am

The deranged psychology here is fascinating.

Right now the GOP is doing its level best to stop minorities from voting by passing and attempting to pass all manner of new Jim Crow like voter restriction laws.

One might think from the false attack on Obama, the GOP realises on some level that this is anti-democracy, racist and a bald faced grab for power by trying to insure that only people who agree with them vote.

President Obama. of course has not restricted or tried to restrict anyone.

Mr. Romney, is fine with restrictions and fine with the double think as well as the lies.

4 b_snark  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:19:22am

re: #1 erik_t

Sorry for instant OT, but what the shit.

Oh No. Not again.
Is this the result of some tortured soul listening to Geller?

5 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:20:22am

re: #1 erik_t

Sorry for instant OT, but what the shit.

My prayers for the innocent. We will have to wait and see.

6 Gus  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:21:54am

re: #4 b_sharp

Oh No. Not again.
Is this the result of some tortured soul listening to Geller?

From ABC News:

According to information broadcast over police radio, a witness to the shooting told law enforcement the shooter was a white male, bald, with a heavy build. He was wearing a sleeveless T-shirt, according to Oak Creek Patch. He was last seen with two handguns.

7 Charles Johnson  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:22:18am

re: #1 erik_t

Sorry for instant OT, but what the shit.

From comments on that page:

According to recent information broadcast over police radio, a witness to the shooting told law enforcement the shooter was a white male, with a heavy build, bald head and wearing a sleeveless T-shirt. He was last seen with two handguns.

8 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:22:45am

The brakes are off, the track is out, and engineer Romney has opened the throttle all the way. Barring $10 a gallon or some other catastrophe, the GOP is headed for a beat-down of Biblical dimensions.

Like most really good news, though, this has a downside: It means that the right-wing will double down on the conspiracies and lies, the tea party cult will be in full control, and we will have to deal with an opposition composed of dangerously misinformed kooks for the next four years. Gridlock, chaos, and even violence will likely increase.

9 Charles Johnson  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:23:09am

re: #6 Gus

Wow - ABC News simply lifted that entire comment almost word for word with no attribution.

10 Gus  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:23:15am
11 Gus  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:23:50am

re: #9 Charles Johnson

Wow - ABC News simply lifted that entire comment almost word for word with no attribution.

Yeah. I noticed that. Slight word changes is all.

12 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:24:16am

Bet he thinks Sikhs are some kind of Muslim. Hope he likes the lifetime apartment he'll get in Waupon, WI.

13 bratwurst  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:25:10am

There is a kind of desperate rage that has taken hold of the mouth breathing wing of the right. The fact that Romney is echoing this is pathetic.

14 allegro  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:25:40am

re: #12 William Barnett-Lewis

Bet he thinks Sikhs are some kind of Muslim. Hope he likes the lifetime apartment he'll get in Waupon, WI.

If he lives long enough. If he's in there with hostages, odds are he won't see tomorrow.

15 CuriousLurker  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:26:01am
16 Obdicut  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:26:34am

Man. They opened fire during worship. I know that really there's nothing worse about killing people during worship than any other time, and hell, I'm an atheist, but there's just something so fucking craven about killing people in a place of prayer. So cowardly.

17 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:27:03am

As I recall, someone went out and shot some Sikhs right after 9/11.

18 Killgore Trout  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:27:05am

re: #12 William Barnett-Lewis

Bet he thinks Sikhs are some kind of Muslim. Hope he likes the lifetime apartment he'll get in Waupon, WI.

It's possible but there are also a lot of white Anerican/European Sikh converts. It might be a domestic/temple related grudge. Could be anything.

19 Killgore Trout  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:27:32am

re: #15 CuriousLurker

Live coverage of the shooting *sigh*

Thanks.

20 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:27:34am

re: #14 allegro

If he lives long enough. If he's in there with hostages, odds are he won't see tomorrow.

Cops in Wisconsin prefer to wait these kind out. If he dies it's more likely he commits suicide than anything else.

21 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:28:10am

Why Sikhs? What did they ever do to him?

22 Obdicut  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:28:18am

re: #20 William Barnett-Lewis

I knew a hostage negotiator once. What a job. Hard to train for.

23 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:28:47am

re: #22 Obdicut

I knew a hostage negotiator once. What a job. Hard to train for.

I imagine that you would have to have a certain amount of natural talent that can't be trained.

24 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:29:11am

re: #16 Obdicut

Man. They opened fire during worship. I know that really there's nothing worse about killing people during worship than any other time, and hell, I'm an atheist, but there's just something so fucking craven about killing people in a place of prayer. So cowardly.

Dr. Tiller was shot right in the foyer of his church during services. It seems to be a popular MO with these devils.

25 CuriousLurker  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:29:16am

#templeshooting is trending on Twitter.

26 erik_t  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:29:50am

re: #21 Mostly sane, most of the time.

Why Sikhs? What did they ever do to him?

Because turban. You really think it's any deeper than that? I don't.

27 Gus  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:30:19am

Two gunmen being reported.

28 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:30:24am

re: #26 erik_t

Because turban. You really think it's any deeper than that? I don't.

Because doesn't eat like me, doesn't talk like me, doesn't decorate his house like me.

Yeah, I see your point.

29 Gus  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:30:29am

Not confirmed.

30 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:31:04am

Sikhs are a peaceable people. Let them be.

31 Gus  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:33:09am
32 Obdicut  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:33:13am

re: #30 PhillyPretzel

Well, these days.

Image: pic22.jpg

[Link: www.sikhiwiki.org...]

33 Gus  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:33:54am
34 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:36:16am

Once again we have mass shootings, and once again, our brave politicians will refuse to discuss controlling guns.

There was a time when the Second Amendment was understood to mean in the context of a militia. It took the same sorts of justices who brought you Citizen's United to invent new legal fictions.

A simple, common sense solution would be to look at cars.

Cars?

Yes cars.

You do not get to drive a car without a licence and insurance and completing a driving course. This is because it is very easy to kill someone with a car.

You do not get to drive any car you want. This is because the 1000hp monsters out there are not street legal, and putting the average American behind the wheel of one is a recipe for many dead people.

And cars are not even designed to kill people as their main purpose.

I propose the following:

1. All gun owners are nationally registered, with their guns nationally registered as belonging to them. If a crime is committed with a gun, it will be known if it was your gun and the ballistics are on file.

2. All gun owners must purchase insurance, like car insurance to cover any accidental injuries caused by their gun.

3. All gun owners must complete courses on gun safety and operation.

4. To buy a gun, one must have licence and insurance in hand and the purchased gun must have its ballistics in the data base and you are entered as the owner at time of purchase.

Such measures would not solve everything, but, they would cut down on many gun crimes since guns couldn't be sold as willy nilly, and owners would not want their weapons used for something that ties them directly to a crime.

35 CuriousLurker  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:36:57am
36 Killgore Trout  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:37:28am

Eyewitness claiming they tried to disconnect the gas lines in the kitchen to cause an explosion.

37 erik_t  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:37:54am

re: #34 LudwigVanQuixote

After Colorado, plenty of Facebook knuckle-draggers were posting random stories from knife violence in China, things like that. I am super, super excited for the next round.

38 CuriousLurker  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:39:45am

School regularly meets at this time. They don't know if it had started yet or not. ^%$#@&!

39 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:43:12am

re: #38 CuriousLurker

School regularly meets at this time. They don't know if it had started yet or not. ^%$#@&!

The guys who did this are terrorists pure and simple. I really don't like splitting hairs with labels when it is so obvious.

With luck the cops will put this dog (or dogs) down quickly, and get the people out of there.

40 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:44:03am

re: #34 LudwigVanQuixote

We've discussed this at length here in recent weeks but it boils down to this:

A car is a privilege. You do not have a right to own one or to drive one.

A gun is a right. Unless you are a criminal or insane, the government is not allowed to prevent you from having one.

41 Gus  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:44:38am

re: #34 LudwigVanQuixote

Apparently this militia isn't very well regulated.

42 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:44:44am

re: #1 erik_t

Sorry for instant OT, but what the shit.

Just saw this.

I...nightmare.

43 erik_t  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:45:10am

re: #40 William Barnett-Lewis

A gun is a right. Unless you are a criminal or insane, the government is not allowed to prevent you from having one.

Rights have limitations. I see no reason that the limitations you've suggested can or should be the only ones.

44 CuriousLurker  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:45:27am

re: #39 LudwigVanQuixote

Yeah, I'm not keen on splitting hairs over stuff like this either. God, it pisses me off when innocents are murdered.

45 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:45:34am

re: #40 William Barnett-Lewis

We've discussed this at length here in recent weeks but it boils down to this:

A car is a privilege. You do not have a right to own one or to drive one.

A gun is a right. Unless you are a criminal or insane, the government is not allowed to prevent you from having one.

A well organized and regulated militia is a right. For many years that was understood as the state national guard. Time to go back to the common sense interpretation of the Second Amendment.

46 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:45:57am

re: #41 Gus

Apparently this militia isn't very well regulated.

My point exactly.

47 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:47:36am

re: #4 b_sharp

Oh No. Not again.
Is this the result of some tortured soul listening to Geller?

I don't think Geller's got anything special against Sikhs, so if they are listeners, they are an exceptionally stupid ones. Sadly, that's not outside the realm of the possible either.

48 Obdicut  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:48:12am

re: #44 CuriousLurker

Yeah, I'm not keen on splitting hairs over stuff like this either. God, it pisses me off when innocents are murdered.

It's my nightmare that some day a loved one will be killed in such a manner. I don't think I could take it. I think it'd break me.

All these people waiting to see if their loved ones survive; what can be possibly said or done to comfort them?

49 CuriousLurker  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:48:14am

I hope to God this guy is wrong.

50 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:48:21am

And of course, both Romney and Obama will say nothing for fear of the NRA.

The NRA in the mean time, never saw a mass shooting as an issue.

They just don't seem to understand it is much harder to murder many people quickly with a spoon.

51 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:48:34am

re: #45 LudwigVanQuixote

The security at last week's Siyum HaShas was very, very, very tight for obvious reasons: 90,000 Jews all in one place. And the dumbasses on YNet were complaining about "how much tax money did the NJ citizens have to shell out for these layabouts?"

52 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:48:46am

re: #48 Obdicut

It's my nightmare that some day a loved one will be killed in such a manner. I don't think I could take it. I think it'd break me.

All these people waiting to see if their loved ones survive; what can be possibly said or done to comfort them?

In Israel, they just pray.

53 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:49:14am

re: #43 erik_t

Rights have limitations. I see no reason that the limitations you've suggested can or should be the only ones.

That was the short version. In fact guns are already quite highly regulated - certainly more than speech is. However going into the details of the NFA of 1934 or the GCA of 1968 or the 1984 modifications to them isn't going to change the basic concept that the current court has held there is an individual right to gun ownership and that barring ownership or even licensing ownership ala cars is not going to pass judicial review.

54 Gus  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:49:18am

re: #49 CuriousLurker

I hope to God this guy is wrong.

[Embedded content]

Yeah. I saw that. Not going to take anyone's word on these kinds of specifics yet.

55 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:49:19am

re: #17 Learned Mother of Zion

As I recall, someone went out and shot some Sikhs right after 9/11.

Yeah, a couple of men, at their business places, I think. Because the turbans.

56 erik_t  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:49:27am

re: #47 SanFranciscoZionist

I don't think Geller's got anything special against Sikhs, so if they are listeners, they are an exceptionally stupid ones. Sadly, that's not outside the realm of the possible either.

Wouldn't be the first time.

57 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:49:45am

re: #18 Killgore Trout

It's possible but there are also a lot of white Anerican/European Sikh converts. It might be a domestic/temple related grudge. Could be anything.

We'll probably find out soon. Whatever it is, it won't make this any better.

58 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:50:27am

re: #51 Learned Mother of Zion

The security at last week's Siyum HaShas was very, very, very tight for obvious reasons: 90,000 Jews all in one place. And the dumbasses on YNet were complaining about "how much tax money did the NJ citizens have to shell out for these layabouts?"

YNet is an example how the right wing sickness has managed to penetrate our community.

Seeing morons has always bothered me, but Jewish morons make me feel personally responsible, like I failed as a Jew.

59 blueraven  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:50:28am

re: #40 William Barnett-Lewis

We've discussed this at length here in recent weeks but it boils down to this:

A car is a privilege. You do not have a right to own one or to drive one.

A gun is a right. Unless you are a criminal or insane, the government is not allowed to prevent you from having one.

You also have the right to vote, but that doesn't stop state legislatures from imposing restrictions over some perceived voter fraud.
What we have with guns is clear abuse, yet the matter cant even be discussed by politicians without severe consequences.

60 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:51:11am

re: #30 PhillyPretzel

Sikhs are a peaceable people. Let them be.

The traditional line is 'peaceful until disturbed'. I think this is plenty goddamn disturbing.

61 b_snark  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:51:12am

re: #21 Mostly sane, most of the time.

Why Sikhs? What did they ever do to him?

They wore a turban at him.

62 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:52:13am

Ironically, the best gun for legitimate self-defense (and many forms of hunting for that matter) is also one of the cheapest and least controversial. Good 12 gauge pump shotguns can be had for less than $300 and serviceable ones for under $200. Unlike an AR-15, they will stop burglars or even marauding bears dead in their tracks with little danger of over-penetration.

63 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:52:21am

Militia as defined by Dr Samuel Johnson (this was the dictionary of the time that the Constitution was written) is a standing armed force. I would not want to be at the wrong end of a standing armed force of women with cast iron skillets.

64 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:52:44am

re: #49 CuriousLurker

I hope to God this guy is wrong.

[Embedded content]

Now I'm thinking of Beslan, and just twitching.

65 CuriousLurker  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:52:55am

re: #57 SanFranciscoZionist

Yeah, it sucks no matter what the reason, but if it was in any way motivated by bigotry, it's going to turn into a massive circus.

66 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:53:08am

re: #53 William Barnett-Lewis

That was the short version. In fact guns are already quite highly regulated - certainly more than speech is. However going into the details of the NFA of 1934 or the GCA of 1968 or the 1984 modifications to them isn't going to change the basic concept that the current court has held there is an individual right to gun ownership and that barring ownership or even licensing ownership ala cars is not going to pass judicial review.

Yes, you are right. But, the courts are fallible.

Dred Scott, Citizens United...

There comes a point somewhere when reality and morality need to trump bizarre legal syllogism.

67 CuriousLurker  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:54:14am

re: #64 SanFranciscoZionist

Now I'm thinking of Beslan, and just twitching.

This. Photos of dead children are...NO.

68 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 10:56:19am

re: #45 LudwigVanQuixote

A well organized and regulated militia is a right. For many years that was understood as the state national guard. Time to go back to the common sense interpretation of the Second Amendment.

Except that interpretation is not how the founders viewed it when they wrote it. The militia is every adult citizen. In the Militia Acts of 1794 you see the clearest expression of what the original intent was - that every free adult male citizen was required to own a military class long arm, ammunition for it & to drill twice a year. Everyone. Not just a handful in the National Guard.

For that matter, the militia is still legally defined in the US Code as being made up of all male citizens between 18 & 45, those males of that age who have declared their intention to become citizens, & women who are in the National Guard.

69 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 11:08:34am

re: #68 William Barnett-Lewis

OK, I'm fine with everyone having a black powder muzzle loader.

We either go 1789 all the way, or we admit that the law and the technology evolve.

70 thecommodore  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 1:11:00pm

re: #8 Shiplord Kirel

The brakes are off, the track is out, and engineer Romney has opened the throttle all the way. Barring $10 a gallon or some other catastrophe, the GOP is headed for a beat-down of Biblical dimensions.

If only.

The GOP became unhinged in 1964 and paid dearly for it (though some suggested it was a trial run for Reagan in 1980, but the country just wasn't ready for it, but I digress). I would argue that the GOP is even more unhinged than they were in '64, yet they won 63 seats in the House in 2010, almost took the Senate, and Romney has been within striking distance from the outset this time around.

I do believe Obama will win in November (barring the usual catastrophes that people mention), and it will probably be by a comfortable margin in the electoral college, yet fairly narrow in the popular vote. Losing to a black man for a second time will be a biblical disaster for the teabaggers and dittoheads who run the Republican Party now, but I don't see a GOP disaster happening (an Obama landslide)...even if Romney were to do something like go full birther ("I'll show you my tax returns when you show the country your real birth certificate").

71 labman57  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 1:15:15pm

An accurate account of this lawsuit has been made abundantly clear by every news network covering this story ... except, of course, FOX News.

And, of course, the right wing blogosphere chomps at the bit whenever the opportunity arises to spread these types of misleading stories and deceive their readers.

But most pathetically (although not really surprisingly), Romney has decided to use this bit of disinformation as a campaign talking point.

72 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 1:32:43pm

re: #70 thecommodore

If only.

The GOP became unhinged in 1964 and paid dearly for it (though some suggested it was a trial run for Reagan in 1980, but the country just wasn't ready for it, but I digress). I would argue that the GOP is even more unhinged than they were in '64, yet they won 63 seats in the House in 2010, almost took the Senate, and Romney has been within striking distance from the outset this time around.

I do believe Obama will win in November (barring the usual catastrophes that people mention), and it will probably be by a comfortable margin in the electoral college, yet fairly narrow in the popular vote. Losing to a black man for a second time will be a biblical disaster for the teabaggers and dittoheads who run the Republican Party now, but I don't see a GOP disaster happening (an Obama landslide)...even if Romney were to do something like go full birther ("I'll show you my tax returns when you show the country your real birth certificate").

I think Mitt Romney could call Obama the n-word during one of the debates and still win 457% of the popular vote. The vast majority of Republicans want someone to "put Obama in his place".

73 thecommodore  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 1:44:03pm

re: #72 moderatelyradicalliberal

I think Mitt Romney could call Obama the n-word during one of the debates and still win 45% of the popular vote. The vast majority of Republicans want someone to "put Obama in his place".

That might be what unleashes the Obama landslide win, with most of the former Confederate states being deep red.

74 steve_davis  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 3:54:31pm

re: #12 William Barnett-Lewis

Bet he thinks Sikhs are some kind of Muslim. Hope he likes the lifetime apartment he'll get in Waupon, WI.

Thankfully, it sounds like his new accomodation is a six foot by 2 1/2 foot box made out of something cheap, preferably.

75 steve_davis  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 3:55:33pm

re: #21 Mostly sane, most of the time.

Why Sikhs? What did they ever do to him?

They wear turbans, which to right-wing dumbasses means they must be some branch of Islam.

76 Patricia Kayden  Sun, Aug 5, 2012 5:23:15pm

re: #50 LudwigVanQuixote

Not very optimistic that the US will ever have any meaningful gun control laws, unless this country makes a sharp turn to the left. It won't be Obama either. It would have to be a much more progressive President with a progressive Congress (not just a Democratic Congress -- there are still quite a few Blue Dog Dems out there). Not seeing that in the near future. If Obama wins, perhaps we can get some controls on automatic weapons at the very least.


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