Craziest Wingnut Rant of the Day: Jerome Corsi: ‘Was Obama Married Before He Was Married?’
Hallucinatory homophobia
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freetoken Thu, Aug 9, 2012 7:26:43pm |
They really feel like they spotted something with that picture of a young Obama, with a ring on his finger.
Imagine that, someone wearing a ring on a finger.
It's amazing, I tell you, amazing.
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Targetpractice Thu, Aug 9, 2012 7:27:22pm |
re: #1 Kragar
No. Who has the next stupid fucking question?
*Puts up hand* Yes, Targetpractice from LGF.
Candidate Kragar, is it true you will be selecting Khorne as your running mate in this election?
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Thu, Aug 9, 2012 7:28:21pm |
re: #3 freetoken
They really feel like they spotted something with that picture of a young Obama, with a ring on his finger.
Imagine that, someone wearing a ring on a finger.
It's amazing, I tell you, amazing.
That was the point at which I fell off my chair laughing. I was like, seriously, how DUMB can these people be?
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Kragar Thu, Aug 9, 2012 7:29:49pm |
re: #4 Targetpractice
*Puts up hand* Yes, Targetpractice from LGF.
Candidate Kragar, is it true you will be selecting Khorne as your running mate in this election?
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Khorne will definitely have a place in my administration, but we're still vetting several gods, both Chaos and Elder, as well as several Great Old Ones to see who will join the ticket as the VP pick.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Thu, Aug 9, 2012 7:30:42pm |
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Charles Johnson Thu, Aug 9, 2012 7:30:53pm |
It really doesn't get much more pathetically crazy than this.
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Big Joe Thu, Aug 9, 2012 7:32:13pm |
re: #9 Charles Johnson
It really doesn't get much more pathetically crazy than this.
*challenge accepted*
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Only The Lurker Knows Thu, Aug 9, 2012 7:32:28pm |
One notices that he doesn't show any close ups of the ring(s) or for that matter any close ups at all. Why is that Jerome?
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Thu, Aug 9, 2012 7:32:30pm |
re: #9 Charles Johnson
It really doesn't get much more pathetically crazy than this.
Just wait. There's still 2.5 more months to go.
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Kragar Thu, Aug 9, 2012 7:32:47pm |
I will go ahead and confirm the rumor that Hastur is no longer on the short list, as every time we got an audience to start chanting his name, they were annihilated in a squamous blast of eldritch energy.
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jaunte Thu, Aug 9, 2012 7:32:51pm |
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jaunte Thu, Aug 9, 2012 7:33:33pm |
"Not to condemn Obama, here, for being gay, or bisexual, or whatever he is..."
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engineer cat Thu, Aug 9, 2012 7:34:05pm |
re: #5 thedopefishlives
That was the point at which I fell off my chair laughing. I was like, seriously, how DUMB can these people be?
we hope to soon be able to give a positive answer to this question which has been troubling so many lately, but we need to recalibrate our instruments before we can measure dumbness in the quantities we have observed
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Kragar Thu, Aug 9, 2012 7:34:10pm |
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Kragar Thu, Aug 9, 2012 7:35:05pm |
Squamous is a word I don't use as much as I should.
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engineer cat Thu, Aug 9, 2012 7:35:29pm |
just wait till they find out that obama is an albigensian
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Gus Thu, Aug 9, 2012 7:35:39pm |
re: #16 jaunte
"Not to condemn Obama, here, for being gay, or bisexual, or whatever he is..."
That was very kind of him.
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Kragar Thu, Aug 9, 2012 7:36:58pm |
This post edited to comply with Louisiana and Missouri educational guidelines
Largest-Ever 3D Map of the Universe Will Blow Your Mind [VIDEO]
Newly released to the public this week, the largest-ever 3D map of the universe includes includes galaxies that date back
seven billionsix thousand years. The map was created by the Sloan Digital Sky Survey III, an association of two dozen universities from around the world.
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erik_t Thu, Aug 9, 2012 7:37:30pm |
Two weeks after moving to the house (that I bought!) (with money!) (which is kinda mine never mind that bank!), my damncat has learned to:
climb the 4x4 post
to
the top of the shed underneath
the
second story deck with screen material underneath it
which
she claws at in order to draw my attention, even from indoors
in order to
get my lazy ass aware that Her Majesty requires the use of the door.
This cat may be too smart for my own good.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Thu, Aug 9, 2012 7:37:47pm |
I'm not necessarily a big fan of John Kerry, but I'd like to point out that Jerome Corsi is the same lunatic who wrote "Unfit for Command". a smear-job against John Kerry that the "LAME-STREAM MEDIA" swallowed and regurgitated hook, line, and sinker.
Here's some audio of him commiserating with Alex Jones, in case you're into that kind of thing:
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Mocking Jay Thu, Aug 9, 2012 7:37:51pm |
re: #9 Charles Johnson
It really doesn't get much more pathetically crazy than this.
Somewhere in the internets a rwnj just thought "challenge accepted!"
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SpaceJesus Thu, Aug 9, 2012 7:38:39pm |
you wingnuts have no idea how much i wished all of your theories were true
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abolitionist Thu, Aug 9, 2012 7:38:58pm |
That could have been his super-secret commie decoder ring. Or a maybe a Turkish wedding ring.
He could've been into puzzles.
A young lady I once took to a movie had a curious ring --four ring parts, interwoven, made of silver. I asked if I could examine it. She consented. Of course, it "transformed" once off her finger and loose. It took me a minute or two to rearrange it as it was.
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Targetpractice Thu, Aug 9, 2012 7:39:21pm |
re: #9 Charles Johnson
It really doesn't get much more pathetically crazy than this.
Didn't we tell ourselves that when Newt was out there, playing to the racists in the crowd?
Every time we tells ourselves that the depths of hatred for Obama have been plumbed, they change out the bit and drill deeper.
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SpaceJesus Thu, Aug 9, 2012 7:39:48pm |
America being ruled by some Kenyan, Marxist, Homosexual, Muslim tyrant would be so god damn hilarious it would blow my fucking mind.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Thu, Aug 9, 2012 7:39:50pm |
re: #28 Targetpractice
Didn't we tell ourselves that when Newt was out there, playing to the racists in the crowd?
Every time we tells ourselves that the depths of hatred for Obama have been plumbed, they change out the bit and drill deeper.
A journey to the center of the earth, as it were.
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Only The Lurker Knows Thu, Aug 9, 2012 7:39:59pm |
re: #14 Kragar
I will go ahead and confirm the rumor that Hastur is no longer on the short list, as every time we got an audience to start chanting his name, they were annihilated in a squamous blast of eldritch energy.
Is this The Hastur or one of his bastard kids? Or do we have an outlaw matrix out there?
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Targetpractice Thu, Aug 9, 2012 7:40:19pm |
re: #30 thedopefishlives
A journey to the center of the earth, as it were.
They're past the center and tunneling to China. Probably figure they can save on import/export costs that way.
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jaunte Thu, Aug 9, 2012 7:40:30pm |
"He had a Pakistani room-mate, therefore could never have given the order to take out Osama bin Laden."
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freetoken Thu, Aug 9, 2012 7:41:21pm |
re: #22 Kragar
This post edited to comply with Louisiana and Missouri educational guidelines
Largest-Ever 3D Map of the Universe Will Blow Your Mind [VIDEO]
And yet that map only shows about .0001% of the known universe.
It's a really big place.
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freetoken Thu, Aug 9, 2012 7:41:52pm |
re: #33 jaunte
Heh... I had a Pakistani roommate in college once, too, for a term.
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Mocking Jay Thu, Aug 9, 2012 7:42:23pm |
re: #26 SpaceJesus
you wingnuts have no idea how much i wished all of your theories were true
I so wish I could make a movie in which Obama is everything the wingnuts think he is. Box office gold.
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Kragar Thu, Aug 9, 2012 7:42:32pm |
re: #26 SpaceJesus
you wingnuts have no idea how much i wished all of your theories were true
The biggest conspiracy: None of them are important or significant enough for anyone in power to bother developing any kind of conspiracy to fool them.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Thu, Aug 9, 2012 7:42:50pm |
re: #37 Kragar
The biggest conspiracy: None of them are important or significant enough for anyone in power to bother developing any kind of conspiracy to fool them.
BWA HAHAHAHA!
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dragonfire1981 Thu, Aug 9, 2012 7:43:25pm |
re: #9 Charles Johnson
It really doesn't get much more pathetically crazy than this.
Oh I'm sure it does Charles, we just haven't got there yet.
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Targetpractice Thu, Aug 9, 2012 7:45:05pm |
re: #39 dragonfire1981
Oh I'm sure it does Charles, we just haven't got there yet.
These are people who latest spin on the Birther circuit is that refusal by Hawaiian officials to talk to them about Obama's birth certificate is proof that the entire government of Hawaii is in on the conspiracy.
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Kragar Thu, Aug 9, 2012 7:45:15pm |
You ever notice how conspiracy theories today aren't nearly as complex, intricate or as well thought out as they were in the past?
I find that suspicious.
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Mocking Jay Thu, Aug 9, 2012 7:46:05pm |
They'll be able to release much more evidence in September.
They still need to make the rest of it up.
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gwangung Thu, Aug 9, 2012 7:46:20pm |
re: #41 Targetpractice
These are people who latest spin on the Birther circuit is that refusal by Hawaiian officials to talk to them about Obama's birth certificate is proof that the entire government of Hawaii is in on the conspiracy.
They don't know that many Hawaiians, do they?
They think ALL of us mainlanders are crazy.
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blueraven Thu, Aug 9, 2012 7:46:43pm |
Corsi is still super pissed because Obama released his long form birth certificate just as he published his latest piece of crap Where's the Birth Certificate
What a freaking lunatic!
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dragonfire1981 Thu, Aug 9, 2012 7:47:41pm |
It's like there's a contest to see how many right wing hate triggers you can jam into one theory. In this one alone we have:
- Gay marriage
- Hatred of middle easterners (Obama was "allegedly" involved with a Pakistani)
- Hatred of Obama
- Birtherism
- The notion Obama is actively working to conceal supposedly controversial elements of his past
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danarchy Thu, Aug 9, 2012 7:49:08pm |
re: #32 Targetpractice
They're past the center and tunneling to China. Probably figure they can save on import/export costs that way.
For some reason for the first time ever, I thought, what is actually on the other side of the world. A quick google search, and it turns out for me, it is the ocean just off the southwest coast of australia.
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erik_t Thu, Aug 9, 2012 7:51:13pm |
re: #42 Kragar
You ever notice how conspiracy theories today aren't nearly as complex, intricate or as well thought out as they were in the past?
I find that suspicious.
There's probably a conspiracy to short-circuit any conspiracy talk with lame half-ass conspiracies.
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Batman Thu, Aug 9, 2012 7:51:58pm |
It makes no sense. If Obama was once gay married and suddenly decided to be straight, he'd be a Republican.
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Kragar Thu, Aug 9, 2012 7:52:35pm |
re: #47 danarchy
For some reason for the first time ever, I thought, what is actually on the other side of the world. A quick google search, and it turns out for me, it is the ocean just off the southwest coast of australia.
The Indian Ocean, east, south-east of Madagascar
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Targetpractice Thu, Aug 9, 2012 7:52:53pm |
re: #42 Kragar
You ever notice how conspiracy theories today aren't nearly as complex, intricate or as well thought out as they were in the past?
I find that suspicious.
That's like saying there's no originality in Hollywood anymore: All the good theories have already been done. You can only push the competency of the government so far before even CTers call bullshit.
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Kragar Thu, Aug 9, 2012 7:53:17pm |
re: #48 erik_t
There's probably a conspiracy to short-circuit any conspiracy talk with lame half-ass conspiracies.
I see what you tried there and I'm on to you.
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Kragar Thu, Aug 9, 2012 7:55:02pm |
re: #51 Targetpractice
That's like saying there's no originality in Hollywood anymore: All the good theories have already been done. You can only push the competency of the government so far before even CTers call bullshit.
"We're reviving a canceled undercover project from the '80s and revamping it for modern times. The people behind this lack creativity and they've run out of ideas, so what they do now is just recycle shit from the past and hope that nobody will notice."
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Mocking Jay Thu, Aug 9, 2012 7:55:07pm |
re: #52 Kragar
I see what you tried there and I'm on to you.
You only think you did and you only think you are.
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Gus Thu, Aug 9, 2012 7:55:34pm |
Apparently this is an old stupid but expanded conspiracy theory dating back to 2008. Here's one example:
Pictured above with BHO are his maternal grandparents Stanley Armour and Madelyn Lee Dunham. The photo was taken in Central South Park, New York City, allegedly upon BHO's graduation from Columbia University in 1983. The photo, however, shows trees with leaves and some of them are turning, suggesting that it was taken in early fall. Curiously, on BHO's left hand is a wedding ring. Close inspection of the photo reveals that the wedding ring has a particular shape identical to the wedding ring BHO is wearing in the recent photo at right. Unless BHO was married to some otherwise undisclosed person in fall, 1983, this photo would have been taken after BHO's marriage to Michelle on October 18, 1992. Stanley allegedly died on February 8, 1992. So the photos was either taken after Stanley had allegedly died and after BHO married Michelle or BHO was married to someone else when he graduated from Columbia in fall, 1983.
More from Google searching obama "wedding ring" (Jan 1, 2008–Dec 31, 2008).
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Gus Thu, Aug 9, 2012 7:56:46pm |
...Well, a) because one of the photos shows Obama puffing on a joint, and b) because the photos show Obama wearing a wedding ring which proves that he was married as early as 1980 when the photos were taken....
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erik_t Thu, Aug 9, 2012 7:57:02pm |
re: #55 Gus
Lamest. Conspiracy Theory. Evar.
Was it at least a Muslim wedding or something? Seriously.
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jaunte Thu, Aug 9, 2012 7:57:16pm |
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Kragar Thu, Aug 9, 2012 7:57:20pm |
Meanwhile, in the awesome idea department:
Luther Exec Producer Considering Alice-Focused Spin-Off: TV's Most Killer Idea?
There’s a school of thought that says crazy-quirky supporting characters aren’t as appealing when they’re thrust into the center of the action, but I’m willing to bet against conventional wisdom if BBC America greenlights a Luther spin-off centered around brilliant sociopath Alice Morgan (played to delectable perfection by Ruth Wilson).
“The BBC is very interested in the project,” Luther creator and exec producer Neil Cross told Variety. “The only real question would be how many and how often we would do it — whether it would be a one-off miniseries or a returning miniseries, a co-production or not.”
“Even if I didn’t sell this thing, I would still end up writing the miniseries,” Cross went on to say. “It’s something peculiar, but she’s far more clever than me, far more witty than me, far more everything than me.”
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moderatelyradicalliberal Thu, Aug 9, 2012 7:58:19pm |
Gay married? In Pakistan? IN CONSERVATIVE MUSLIM PAKISTAN! I had no idea that country was so progressive.
Seriously, these morons can't see how obviously impossible that would be? Pakistan? Of all countries?
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gwangung Thu, Aug 9, 2012 7:59:23pm |
re: #60 moderatelyradicalliberal
Gay married? In Pakistan? IN CONSERVATIVE MUSLIM PAKISTAN! I had no idea that country was so progressive.
Seriously, these morons can't see how obviously impossible that would be? Pakistan? Of all countries?
That's why they're morons...
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Only The Lurker Knows Thu, Aug 9, 2012 7:59:35pm |
re: #47 danarchy
For some reason for the first time ever, I thought, what is actually on the other side of the world. A quick google search, and it turns out for me, it is the ocean just off the southwest coast of australia.
For me, pretty much out in the middle of the Indian Ocean.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:00:38pm |
re: #62 Bubblehead II
For me, pretty much out in the middle of the Indian Ocean.
As is the case for most of the United States.
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danarchy Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:02:04pm |
re: #62 Bubblehead II
For me, pretty much out in the middle of the Indian Ocean.
Yeah pretty much all of the lower 48 will end up somewhere in the indian ocean.
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Sionainn Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:04:54pm |
re: #62 Bubblehead II
For me, pretty much out in the middle of the Indian Ocean.
Indian Ocean for me, too.
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Mocking Jay Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:05:49pm |
re: #58 jaunte
OMG it's circular!!!
We can't see what's behind the finger.
It could very well be... a crescent ring!
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:06:16pm |
re: #66 Mocking Jay
We can't see what's behind the finger.
It could very well be... a crescent ring!
Careful there, you'll give them ideas. Remember, nothing is too stupid or too far out there for these people. NOTHING.
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Only The Lurker Knows Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:06:53pm |
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moderatelyradicalliberal Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:07:29pm |
re: #61 gwangung
That's why they're morons...
I know, but I just....I just can't....
I'm so sick of these people. They are why we can't have nice things.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:09:01pm |
re: #66 Mocking Jay
We can't see what's behind the finger.
It could very well be... a crescent ring!
Well, technically a ring is two crescents put together. Like two muslims getting gay married....IN PAKISTAN!
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:09:09pm |
Maybe I should go back to my inadvertent nap.
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Big Joe Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:09:48pm |
re: #49 Batman
It makes no sense. If Obama was once gay married and suddenly decided to be straight, he'd be a Republican.
Have you seen his platform? It's to the right of Reagan.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:09:51pm |
re: #69 moderatelyradicalliberal
I know, but I just....I just can't....
I'm so sick of these people. They are why we can't have nice things.
I'm starting to think the British Empire had the right idea with Australia. Any way we can sink a new continent in the middle of the Pacific and just strand all of our derpiest citizens there?
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moderatelyradicalliberal Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:10:25pm |
re: #71 Mostly sane, most of the time.
Maybe I should go back to my inadvertent nap.
Heh. Go back to sleep to escape the nightmare.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:11:46pm |
I would challenge them to come up with better evidence, but someone might try to learn photoshop.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:12:01pm |
re: #73 thedopefishlives
I'm starting to think the British Empire had the right idea with Australia. Any way we can sink a new continent in the middle of the Pacific and just strand all of our derpiest citizens there?
Nah, we already have the space. How about the part of Alaska where it's nighttime half the year? We could build a wall so that people could still visit the pretty parts.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:12:41pm |
re: #76 moderatelyradicalliberal
Nah, we already have the space. How about the part of Alaska where it's nighttime half the year? We could build a wall so that people could still visit the pretty parts.
Ooh, they'd like that. Sarah Palin would probably give them a warm welcome.
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Destro Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:12:53pm |
Let us say it is true for argument's sake, that means Obama not only has guts but he is a pioneer and much more worthy to be president of the USA than a man who was a bishop in a church that thinks Jesus hung out with the Indians who were really shipwrecked Hebrews until God turned them colored.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:14:32pm |
re: #77 thedopefishlives
Ooh, they'd like that. Sarah Palin would probably give them a warm welcome.
Exactly. We'd be rid of them and they would be to dumb to know that they'd been punished with banishment.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:14:51pm |
re: #79 moderatelyradicalliberal
Exactly. We'd be rid of them and they would be to dumb to know that they'd been punished with banishment.
Cue the Douglas Adams reference in 3...2...1...
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Talking Point Detective Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:17:39pm |
re: #16 jaunte
"Not to condemn Obama, here, for being gay, or bisexual, or whatever he is..."
Not to condemn him for his "lifestyle" or to say that homosexuals are against god's will, or to say that he's limp-wristed, or to call him a fairy, or anything like that. It's not that we'd say that going against god's will or being a fairy is wrong. We wouldn't say that, and that's not what we're saying. It's just that if since he's going to go against god's will and be a fairy, why hasn't he just come out and said that he has that kind of lifestyle that is an abomination?
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:20:01pm |
Do these people have no access to meds?
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Targetpractice Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:20:52pm |
re: #83 ggt
Do these people have no access to meds?
One of the downsides to our current state of affairs with regards to mental health, namely that those who need the most help have to commit themselves.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:22:10pm |
re: #78 Destro
Let us say it is true for argument's sake, that means Obama not only has guts but he is a pioneer and much more worthy to be president of the USA than a man who was a bishop in a church that thinks Jesus hung out with the Indians who were really shipwrecked Hebrews until God turned them colored.
No, God made them dirty injuns. The coloreds simply have no souls.
BTW, black people not having soul is ridiculous. Having soul is what we are know for. Hell, we invented soul music!
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allegro Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:22:17pm |
re: #82 Talking Point Detective
Not to condemn him for his "lifestyle" or to say that homosexuals are against god's will, or to say that he's limp-wristed, or to call him a fairy, or anything like that. It's not that we'd say that going against god's will or being a fairy is wrong. We wouldn't say that, and that's not what we're saying. It's just that if since he's going to go against god's will and be a fairy, why hasn't he just come out and said that he has that kind of lifestyle that is an abomination?
They are supremely jealous because Obama is hot. Sizzling.
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Talking Point Detective Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:23:36pm |
re: #86 allegro
They are supremely jealous because Obama is hot. Sizzling.
It really pisses them off, doesn't it?
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allegro Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:24:44pm |
re: #87 Talking Point Detective
It really pisses them off, doesn't it?
Oh yes. He embodies everything they fear.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:24:52pm |
re: #86 allegro
They are supremely jealous because Obama is hot. Sizzling.
Yeah, they hate that about him. They also hate that he and his wife are totally into each other and that his kids are beautiful. They fact that this man lives the kind of Leave it to Beaver family values that they espouse better than most evangelical Christians drives them nuts.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:25:22pm |
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Only The Lurker Knows Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:25:33pm |
re: #81 CarleeCork
So, about those Romney tax returns?
He's not a Business/Corporation. He is a individual and therfore not required to release them.
Please keep up with the current meme.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:26:09pm |
re: #88 allegro
Oh yes. He embodies everything they fear.
He'll charm the pants off of all of the white wimminz and if charm doesn't work he'll sing a little Al Green.
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Targetpractice Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:26:21pm |
Can somebody explain to me why baseball is no longer considered an Olympic sport, but BMX is?
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darthstar Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:28:17pm |
re: #93 Targetpractice
Can somebody explain to me why baseball is no longer considered an Olympic sport, but BMX is?
Because most of the San Francisco Giants would have to play for Venezuela.
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allegro Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:29:30pm |
re: #89 moderatelyradicalliberal
Yeah, they hate that about him. They also hate that he and his wife are totally into each other and that his kids are beautiful. They fact that this man lives the kind of Leave it to Beaver family values that they espouse better than most evangelical Christians drives them nuts.
All of that. There's also the clear fact that this guy likes people, loves kids. He exudes a genuine sincerity and joy of life. Just look at that picture in the last thread and so many others like it. The contrast between him and the stiff, pinched faced prudes and scolds on the right is striking.
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Digital Display Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:30:25pm |
re: #93 Targetpractice
Can somebody explain to me why baseball is no longer considered an Olympic sport, but BMX is?
1.Fitting a global playoff into the span of 2 weeks is almost impossible
2. Money
3. It could be worked out if they would wear Speedos
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:30:44pm |
re: #91 Bubblehead II
He's not a Business/Corporation. He is a individual and therfore not required to release them.
Please keep up the current meme.
And he's right not to release them. Doing so would only make things worse at this point. Although, I do think he should just make it clear: Mitt should reply to someone asking about the returns by saying "No, and that's my final answer on the subject. I've released 2010 and will release 2011, but no more. I will not answer further questions about this matter nor will my campaign."
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erik_t Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:32:08pm |
re: #97 Dark_Falcon
And he's right not to release them. Doing so would only make things worse at this point. Although, I do think he should just make it clear: Mitt should reply to someone asking about the returns by saying "No, and that's my final answer on the subject. I've released 2010 and will release 2011, but no more. I will not answer further questions about this matter nor will my campaign."
As long as your principles are #1 Romney Win #2 Whatever, rather than being in it for the good of the country or whatever.
You make me sad, angry, disgusted and depressed in no particular order, as usual.
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Targetpractice Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:32:27pm |
re: #97 Dark_Falcon
And he's right not to release them. Doing so would only make things worse at this point. Although, I do think he should just make it clear: Mitt should reply to someone asking about the returns by saying "No, and that's my final answer on the subject. I've released 2010 and will release 2011, but no more. I will not answer further questions about this matter nor will my campaign."
Next Morning's Headline: "Romney Goes Silent on Tax Returns: Speculation Intensifies."
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darthstar Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:32:32pm |
re: #97 Dark_Falcon
And he's right not to release them. Doing so would only make things worse at this point. Although, I do think he should just make it clear: Mitt should reply to someone asking about the returns by saying "No, and that's my final answer on the subject. I've released 2010 and will release 2011, but no more. I will not answer further questions about this matter nor will my campaign."
Stupid fucker says that about three times a day it seems. Maybe he needs to try a different answer, such as, "Here they are."
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:33:08pm |
re: #99 Targetpractice
Next Morning's Headline: "Romney Goes Silent on Tax Returns: Speculation Intensifies."
Fine.
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Targetpractice Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:34:16pm |
re: #101 Dark_Falcon
Fine.
Seriously, you think if he refuses to comment on the subject, it'll just go away?
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:34:20pm |
I think Romney should release as many years as Obama has.
WE need to compare on an equal basis.
I also want to see his birth certificate--long form.
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danarchy Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:35:16pm |
re: #93 Targetpractice
Can somebody explain to me why baseball is no longer considered an Olympic sport, but BMX is?
I believe there were two reasons given. First there isn't enough international interest in baseball. And second most of the nations that could field teams wouldn't send their best.(Mainly because they are all busy playing in actual leagues that don't want to come to a halt once every 4 years for the olympics.)
Personally I liked the olympics better when professionals were not allowed to compete.
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darthstar Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:36:02pm |
Mitt Romney needs to be tough on the press...not take their shit...show he's a man...except with people like Sean Hannity, who makes him look good, or Greta 'I bit a turd' Van Sustern who makes everyone look good, or Rush Limbaugh whom every Republican fears for no apparent reason.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:36:58pm |
re: #93 Targetpractice
Can somebody explain to me why baseball is no longer considered an Olympic sport, but BMX is?
Because the socialist, marxist, athiest, apple pie-hating hippies have taken over the world.
/thank Bob!
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CarleeCork Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:37:03pm |
re: #97 Dark_Falcon
And he's right not to release them. Doing so would only make things worse at this point. Although, I do think he should just make it clear: Mitt should reply to someone asking about the returns by saying "No, and that's my final answer on the subject. I've released 2010 and will release 2011, but no more. I will not answer further questions about this matter nor will my campaign."
Hopefully the American people will tell him to fuck off.
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Only The Lurker Knows Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:37:04pm |
re: #104 ggt
I think Romney should release as many years as Obama has.
WE need to compare on an equal basis.
I also want to see his
birth certificateLetter of Incorporation--long form.
This is probably closer to the truth.
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Destro Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:37:37pm |
re: #85 moderatelyradicalliberal
No, God made them dirty injuns. The coloreds simply have no souls.
BTW, black people not having soul is ridiculous. Having soul is what we are know for. Hell, we invented soul music!
//
To me the USA is what it is because of the black African population. They have been here in America longer than most white ancestors and because they actually raised American whites as part of their slave duties they influenced American English, music, etc.
This is not unpresidented. The Greeks who were enslaved to the Romans who conquered them inturn Hellenized the Romans, as Horace said, Graecia capta ferum victorem cepit. (Translation: Captive Greece captured her rude conqueror.
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darthstar Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:37:41pm |
re: #108 CarleeCork
Hopefully the American people will tell him to fuck off.
It seems much of his base is already doing the same.
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Targetpractice Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:40:26pm |
re: #111 darthstar
It seems much of his base is already doing the same.
Especially after yesterday. Limbaugh said today that Romney lost a winner of an attack ad by having a spokesman speak kindly of Romneycare, while Coulter was demanding the head of said spokesman.
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aagcobb Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:41:21pm |
re: #97 Dark_Falcon
And he's right not to release them. Doing so would only make things worse at this point. Although, I do think he should just make it clear: Mitt should reply to someone asking about the returns by saying "No, and that's my final answer on the subject. I've released 2010 and will release 2011, but no more. I will not answer further questions about this matter nor will my campaign."
I hope so, its been doing wonders for his poll numbers so far.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:42:49pm |
re: #97 Dark_Falcon
And he's right not to release them. Doing so would only make things worse at this point. Although, I do think he should just make it clear: Mitt should reply to someone asking about the returns by saying "No, and that's my final answer on the subject. I've released 2010 and will release 2011, but no more. I will not answer further questions about this matter nor will my campaign."
I hope to God he says this in one of the debates when he gets the inevitable question about not releasing them. I really, really do. As if he wasn't already viewed as an arrogant douchebag.
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allegro Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:43:27pm |
re: #113 aagcobb
I hope so, its been doing wonders for his poll numbers so far.
Indeed. Fuck off and vote for me. Real winning strategy there.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:44:11pm |
re: #115 allegro
Indeed. Fuck off and vote for me. Real winning strategy there.
Yeah, I kinda get that impression too. It's very elitist --like the rest of us are swine who should just do what we are told.
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Targetpractice Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:44:16pm |
re: #114 moderatelyradicalliberal
I hope to God he says this in one of the debates when he gets the inevitable question about not releasing them. I really, really do. As if he wasn't already viewed as an arrogant douchebag.
Indeed, I'd love to see him say tomorrow "I'm not releasing my tax returns and that's final," then see him blow a gasket at the debates when Obama brings them up. "No, I said I'm not releasing them!"
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erik_t Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:44:20pm |
re: #114 moderatelyradicalliberal
I hope to God he says this in one of the debates when he gets the inevitable question about not releasing them. I really, really do. As if he wasn't already viewed as an arrogant douchebag.
He can't have bad PR. He's running for office for Pete's sakes!
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blueraven Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:45:43pm |
re: #97 Dark_Falcon
And he's right not to release them. Doing so would only make things worse at this point. Although, I do think he should just make it clear: Mitt should reply to someone asking about the returns by saying "No, and that's my final answer on the subject. I've released 2010 and will release 2011, but no more. I will not answer further questions about this matter nor will my campaign."
Honestly, would you say the same thing if this was a Democratic candidate?
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moderatelyradicalliberal Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:45:53pm |
LOL! Good night all!
So long and thanks for the fish!
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allegro Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:46:56pm |
I'm sitting here laughing thinking about the upcoming debates. Mitt sputtering and Obama standing there all cool and collected with a devastating and probably funny come back for all of Mitt's flailings. It will be epic.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:47:49pm |
re: #35 freetoken
Heh... I had a Pakistani roommate in college once, too, for a term.
My BFF from high school had a Pakistani roommate her first year in college. There was no chance of them getting gay-married. This girl was kind of a problem.
Rich, rich family, going slightly berserk in the decadent atmosphere of South Hadley, Massachusetts. She threw stuff at T., told her that she was allowed to beat the servants at home, and would go out to frat parties, get drunk, and then come back and try to convert T. to Islam at three in the morning, because she felt chatty.
I thought that putting her with the sweet Chinese-American girl from California was a bad idea. What she needed was a debutante from an oooold New England family. She would have gotten slapped down and hard. T. is too nice. Always has been.
Apparently Obama did much better with his Pakistani roommate, I mean if they got hitched and all.
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Gus Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:48:21pm |
Uh oh. Now he's done it.
Gov. Christie: The ‘Gaze Of Intolerance’ Against Muslims ‘Is Disturbing To Me’
By Ben Armbruster on Aug 9, 2012 at 5:34 pm
New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R) during an Iftar dinner two weeks ago called Islamophobic conservatives “bigots.” In the wake of Rep. Michele Bachmann’s (R-MN) anti-Muslim witch hunt, Christie said he is “disturbed” by the intolerance against Muslims:
I’ll tell you that there is a gaze of intolerance that is going around our country that is disturbing to me. This is something that as a political leader you can think you understand as an objective observer, but you don’t really understand until you become part of the story.
Continues.
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Targetpractice Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:48:32pm |
Dark, you do know that if Romney says that his campaign's not gonna talk anymore about the subject of tax returns, that means that he also can't respond to any new accusations, right? He can't stand up there and act all macho by calling on Reid to "put up or shut up." And he also will have to call on his party to follow the same rules by avoiding the subject, else they'll just help continue to fuel the speculation.
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Decatur Deb Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:51:55pm |
re: #20 engineer cat
just wait till they find out that obama is an albigensian
It's pretty well documented that he's a homoousian.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:52:11pm |
re: #62 Bubblehead II
For me, pretty much out in the middle of the Indian Ocean.
Yeah, when I was about ten, I checked the globe, because I wondered where in China you'd come out if you 'dug a hole to China'. I come up in the Indian Ocean too.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:52:14pm |
re: #119 blueraven
Honestly, would you say the same thing if this was a Democratic candidate?
No, of course not. But I don't make my comments about Democrats out as advice normally, because I normally want the Democrat to lose the election.
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darthstar Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:52:17pm |
re: #114 moderatelyradicalliberal
I hope to God he says this in one of the debates when he gets the inevitable question about not releasing them. I really, really do. As if he wasn't already viewed as an arrogant douchebag.
Exactly...
Romney: "I've released everything required by law."
Obama: "The President of the United States should do more than the bare minimum to earn the respect and trust of the people he serves."
Romney: "Urglfrp...hey, he's black!"
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:53:36pm |
re: #123 Gus
Uh oh. Now he's done it.
Gov. Christie: The ‘Gaze Of Intolerance’ Against Muslims ‘Is Disturbing To Me’
By Ben Armbruster on Aug 9, 2012 at 5:34 pmContinues.
Nail her, Chris. Give Bachmann the drubbing she deserves!
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allegro Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:53:36pm |
re: #122 SanFranciscoZionist
My first roommate had one of those 26 letter names with no vowels that ended in 'ski.' Gorgeous natural blonde. Taught me about make-up and flirting to make me damn dangerous in the science department. Heh. Thanks Maureen.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:54:02pm |
re: #85 moderatelyradicalliberal
No, God made them dirty injuns. The coloreds simply have no souls.
BTW, black people not having soul is ridiculous. Having soul is what we are know for. Hell, we invented soul music!
//
It's North Korea that ain't got no Seoul.
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Gus Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:54:19pm |
re: #129 Dark_Falcon
Nail her, Chris. Give Bachmann the drubbing she deserves!
He takes some shots at the NYPD as well. The "almighty NYPD."
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Targetpractice Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:54:41pm |
re: #128 darthstar
Exactly...
Romney: "I've released everything required by law."
Obama: "The President of the United States should do more than the bare minimum to earn the respect and trust of the people he serves."
Romney: "Urglfrp...hey, he's black!"
Romney: "I'm not required to release anything, but I did so because I want the American people to know where I stand."
Obama: "Didn't your father say that he was releasing 12 years of returns because one year could be a 'fluke'?"
Romney: "How dare you attack my family like that?!"
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:54:52pm |
re: #93 Targetpractice
Can somebody explain to me why baseball is no longer considered an Olympic sport, but BMX is?
Apparently baseball put down a foot about their schedule. They won't break for the Olympics.
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Lidane Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:55:05pm |
re: #1 Kragar
No. Who has the next stupid fucking question?
Just wait until Barack Obama's second term if he wins. The stupid fucking questions will increase by several orders of magnitude.
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jaunte Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:55:20pm |
re: #124 Targetpractice
Dark, you do know that if Romney says that his campaign's not gonna talk anymore about the subject of tax returns, that means that he also can't respond to any new accusations, right? He can't stand up there and act all macho by calling on Reid to "put up or shut up." And he also will have to call on his party to follow the same rules by avoiding the subject, else they'll just help continue to fuel the speculation.
He's politically out of his depth. Call him Donnie.
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blueraven Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:55:32pm |
re: #127 Dark_Falcon
No, of course not. But I don't make my comments about Democrats out as advice normally, because I normally want the Democrat to lose the election.
So its not a stand on principle, just a partisan thing.
Transparency over taxes is pretty much accepted protocol for Presidential candidates now. Mitt Romney does not get a pass.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:55:45pm |
re: #101 Dark_Falcon
Fine.
It would be better to release them. There's nothing in there--or there'd better not be--that's worse that what people are imagining right now.
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Lidane Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:55:59pm |
re: #9 Charles Johnson
It really doesn't get much more pathetically crazy than this.
Sure it does. The RNC hasn't happened yet.
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erik_t Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:56:46pm |
re: #127 Dark_Falcon
No, of course not. But I don't make my comments about Democrats out as advice normally, because I normally want the Democrat to lose the election.
Some third world dictatorship is missing its loyal regime patsy.
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Targetpractice Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:56:49pm |
re: #139 Lidane
Sure it does. The RNC hasn't happened yet.
Indeed, the platform still needs to be written. That's gonna be one hell of a clusterfuck.
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jaunte Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:56:55pm |
Seriously, the 'show your tax returns' request was so predictable, Romney should have seen it coming years ago. This is not a competent planner.
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prairiefire Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:57:17pm |
Crazy!! President Obama ahead by 9 points in latest Fox News poll ~ [Link: www.foxnews.com...]
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erik_t Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:58:03pm |
re: #142 jaunte
Seriously, the 'show your tax returns' request was so predictable, Romney should have seen it coming years ago. This is not a competent planner.
His father saw it coming. The guy who made Mitt a person. Mitt is in his mid-60s.
It's embarrassingly pathetic. I don't give a fuck if you think transparency is important, I hope you at least value competence. This is not the mark of a competent person.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:58:06pm |
re: #132 Gus
He takes some shots at the NYPD as well. The "almighty NYPD."
Eh, I can live with that. But Michelle Bachmann is a boil in the flesh of American politics. If Chris Christie can lance this boil, then he'll have make both the GOP and America as a whole stronger for having done so.
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blueraven Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:58:07pm |
re: #143 prairiefire
Crazy!! President Obama ahead by 9 points in latest Fox News poll ~ [Link: www.foxnews.com...]
Keep hiding those taxes Mitt!
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:59:07pm |
re: #140 erik_t
Some third world dictatorship is missing its loyal regime patsy.
And your village is missing its idiot.
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Targetpractice Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:59:18pm |
re: #143 prairiefire
Crazy!! President Obama ahead by 9 points in latest Fox News poll ~ [Link: www.foxnews.com...]
Damn that liberal media!
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Mich-again Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:59:50pm |
re: #126 SanFranciscoZionist
Yeah, when I was about ten, I checked the globe, because I wondered where in China you'd come out if you 'dug a hole to China'. I come up in the Indian Ocean too.
Not to be nitpicky, but if you dug a hole to China you would end up in China.
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Lidane Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:00:28pm |
re: #141 Targetpractice
Indeed, the platform still needs to be written. That's gonna be one hell of a clusterfuck.
I'm already stocking up on virtual popcorn and wine for it. I'm going to go through that platform with glee, especially if all the spectacular fail we've seen from the states makes it into the final national platform. I will laugh my ass off if the national platform talks about Agenda 21, the evils of vaccination, raw milk, or returning to the gold/silver standard.
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Mocking Jay Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:00:58pm |
re: #149 Mich-again
Not to be nitpicky, but if you dug a hole to China you would end up in China.
But... you are being nitpicky.
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CarleeCork Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:01:33pm |
I cannot wait for the debates! Mitt is in way over his head.
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darthstar Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:01:42pm |
Kenya won the gold in the 800M run...President Obama should call and congratulate the winner just to fuck with Republicans.
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Targetpractice Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:01:48pm |
OT:
What war on women?
Rep. Todd Akin: Ban The Morning-After Pill
Rep. Todd Akin, the Republican nominee for Senate in Missouri, wants to ban the morning-after pill, considering it to be a form of abortion, he told a Kansas City radio station Wednesday.
“As far as I’m concerned, the morning-after pill is a form of abortion, and I think we just shouldn’t have abortion in this country,” Akin said Wednesday, the day after his victory in the Republican primary, in an interview with Kansas City radio host Greg Knapp. Audio was posted by the liberal site Progress Missouri.
I do so love it when the mask starts to slip off.
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Lidane Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:02:17pm |
re: #153 darthstar
Kenya won the gold in the 800M run...President Obama should call and congratulate the winner just to fuck with Republicans.
That would be spectacular and hilarious. I wish he would.
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dragonath Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:02:39pm |
That wasn't just any ring on his finger. In fact that was the...
Ash nazg durbatulûk
Ash nazg gimbatul
Ash nazg thrakatulûk
Agh burzum-ishi krimpatul...
*blink blink*
Um, sorry, I'm getting orders from the boss. Now what was I saying?
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darthstar Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:03:23pm |
re: #156 jaunte
Tweet that to tcot.
Done
Kenya won the gold in the 800M run...President Obama should call and congratulate the winner just to fuck with Republicans. #p2 #tcot— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) August 10, 2012
| 160 |
erik_t Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:03:56pm |
re: #147 Dark_Falcon
And your village is missing its idiot.
My village of idiots is full of idiots that try to vote for the best idiot, regardless of whether he or she aligns with the Dumbfucks or the Shitstains.
So, you know, you just keep doin' your thing. I pity you and those around you.
| 161 |
allegro Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:04:08pm |
re: #154 Targetpractice
OT:
What war on women?
Rep. Todd Akin: Ban The Morning-After Pill
I do so love it when the mask starts to slip off.
Women should be forced to have their rapists' babies!
| 162 |
gwangung Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:05:27pm |
| 164 |
Dark_Falcon Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:06:09pm |
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:06:18pm |
re: #152 CarleeCork
I cannot wait for the debates! Mitt is in way over his head.
He is the one that is going to really need a teleprompter. He seems to only repeat what he has been told is the approved "speak" for any given time period. For a puppet, he has horrible handlers
| 166 |
Mich-again Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:06:34pm |
re: #152 CarleeCork
I cannot wait for the debates! Mitt is in way over his head.
When Mitt gets agitated, his pitch climbs and he starts to sound even whinier.
| 167 |
Gus Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:07:27pm |
re: #166 Mich-again
When Mitt gets agitated, his pitch climbs and he starts to sound even whinier.
Doesn't he also blink more?
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allegro Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:07:57pm |
re: #165 ggt
He is the one that is going to really need a teleprompter. He seems to only repeat what he has been told is the approved "speak" for any given time period. For a puppet, he has horrible handlers
I don't see Mitt surrounding himself with anything but "yes" people. It's all he's ever known. It shows.
| 169 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:08:01pm |
re: #161 allegro
Women should be forced to have their rapists' babies!
This may seem harsh, but doesn't that equate to letting the bullys win?
I've never gotten that --a guy rapes someone and gets to have a kid?
In some cultures, the woman is forced to marry him . . . .
So we reward violence?
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Mich-again Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:09:11pm |
re: #163 Lidane
The Founders didn't plan on an Air Force either:
Isn't that pretty much what Paul Revere did?
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:09:16pm |
re: #168 allegro
I don't see Mitt surrounding himself with anything but "yes" people. It's all he's ever known. It shows.
Yeah, he seems to think the rest of us are in the same movie --he is performing a script and will dictate to the rest of us what parts we shall play.
I got the same impression from Santorum.
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jaunte Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:09:24pm |
SOURCES: Romney may seek to balance GOP ticket by selecting VP candidate with experience depositing money in a US bank— The Daily Edge (@TheDailyEdge) August 10, 2012
Politifact rating: Unfair!
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Targetpractice Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:09:31pm |
re: #163 Lidane
The Founders didn't plan on an Air Force either:
I think that's pretty much a stock phrase now, "Not What The Founders Intended."
There's a lot of things that 18th century men living in what was a global backwater at the time didn't intend when peering over two centuries into the future. Horseless carriages and writing devices that transmitted their messages through the ether were probably on the list somewhere.
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darthstar Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:09:46pm |
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funky chicken Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:09:55pm |
re: #123 Gus
Uh oh. Now he's done it.
Gov. Christie: The ‘Gaze Of Intolerance’ Against Muslims ‘Is Disturbing To Me’
By Ben Armbruster on Aug 9, 2012 at 5:34 pmContinues.
Christie's way of politely declining Mitt's VP offer, would be my guess. We'll see if Jindal or Rubio are stupid/desperate enough to accept. My money's on Rubio because I honestly think Jindal isn't stupid or desperate for national attention right now.
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allegro Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:10:18pm |
re: #169 ggt
This may seem harsh, but doesn't that equate to letting the bullys win?
I've never gotten that --a guy rapes someone and gets to have a kid?
In some cultures, the woman is forced to marry him . . . .
So we reward violence?
When it comes to the patriarchy, those who benefit from it sure do. It's why the Repubs as a whole wouldn't support the recent domestic violence bill. Us uppity bitches have it coming, doncha know.
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Targetpractice Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:10:36pm |
re: #175 funky chicken
Christie's way of politely declining Mitt's VP offer, would be my guess. We'll see if Jindal or Rubio are stupid/desperate enough to accept. My money's on Rubio because I honestly think Jindal isn't stupid or desperate for national attention right now.
I'm still betting on Bob McDonnell, but openly praying he goes with Paul Ryan.
| 179 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:11:15pm |
re: #171 ggt
Yeah, he seems to think the rest of us are in the same movie --he is performing a script and will dictate to the rest of us what parts we shall play.
I got the same impression from Santorum.
Which, I guess, is the world they live in and their wives allow . . ..
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:11:16pm |
re: #169 ggt
This may seem harsh, but doesn't that equate to letting the bullys win?
I've never gotten that --a guy rapes someone and gets to have a kid?
In some cultures, the woman is forced to marry him . . . .
So we reward violence?
Those who favor not allowing such abortions regard the fetus as a person, and as such that person's right to live trumps considerations of the mother's emotional health or letting the scumbag claim a victory.
Note: I do not subscribe to this view, I am simply articulating it for purposes of discussion.
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Gus Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:11:27pm |
re: #175 funky chicken
Christie's way of politely declining Mitt's VP offer, would be my guess. We'll see if Jindal or Rubio are stupid/desperate enough to accept. My money's on Rubio because I honestly think Jindal isn't stupid or desperate for national attention right now.
I think they're trying to "force" Paul Ryan on him.
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Only The Lurker Knows Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:11:47pm |
re: #152 CarleeCork
I cannot wait for the debates! Mitt is in way over his head.
I am going to be LMAO watching Obama shred him. But then again, It may not happen. Nothing says Mittens has to face Obama in a debate or debates. He may figure that refusing to debate Obama is the least of two three evils (Tax Returns being the first).
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kirkspencer Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:11:59pm |
re: #142 jaunte
Seriously, the 'show your tax returns' request was so predictable, Romney should have seen it coming years ago. This is not a competent planner.
Oh, it's worse. Every time he ran for office both Bain and taxes were Issues. That's when he lost to Kennedy, and he came close to turning an easy win into a fiasco over the same issue when running for Governor of Massachusetts.
Taxes and Bain have been his political anchor for 18 years and he still can't figure out how to answer them.
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erik_t Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:12:03pm |
re: #178 Targetpractice
I'm still betting on Bob McDonnell, but openly praying he goes with Paul Ryan.
If we're openly praying, I might as well go with McCarthyist Ice Queen Crazy-Eyes Bachmann.
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jaunte Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:12:35pm |
Nate Silver:
Aug. 9: National Polls Shouldn’t Panic Romney
Conservative smoothing parameters in Loess regression!
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aagcobb Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:13:06pm |
re: #178 Targetpractice
I'm still betting on Bob McDonnell, but openly praying he goes with Paul Ryan.
I expect Portman, because that's the safest selection.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:13:30pm |
re: #174 darthstar
I don't live with my parents, haven't since 2004. And my dad is in Pennsylvania visiting my sister, who is in the hospital getting the medical crisis she suffered last month treated. Any other smartass lines?
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Lidane Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:13:36pm |
re: #169 ggt
"If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife." -- Deuteronomy 22:23-24 NAB
"If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her." -- Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT
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Targetpractice Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:14:02pm |
re: #182 Bubblehead II
I am going to be LMAO watching Obama shred him. But then again, It may not happen. Nothing says Mittens has to face Obama in a debate or debates. He may figure that refusing to debate Obama is the least of
twothree evils (Tax Returns being the first).
I read an editorial earlier from a wingnut who suggested he could "win" the debates by basically acting like Newt, using "stupid questions" as an opportunity to attack the moderator on live TV.
Take a second and picture Mitt Romney trying to act irate and mean on live TV in any manner that would invoke support rather than laughter.
I gave up trying after the hour mark.
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Gus Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:14:40pm |
re: #185 jaunte
Nate Silver:
Aug. 9: National Polls Shouldn’t Panic RomneyConservative smoothing parameters in Loess regression!
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allegro Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:15:07pm |
re: #180 Dark_Falcon
Those who favor not allowing such abortions regard the fetus as a person, and as such that person's right to live trumps considerations of the mother's emotional health or letting the scumbag claim a victory.
Note: I do not subscribe to this view, I am simply articulating it for purposes of discussion.
Nonsense. If this was true, those same people would be all for sex education, birth control, and support for young mothers and their children. They don't. It's about control of women and their choices and sexuality. Don't fall for the "it's about the precious babeeeees!" line. It's bullshit.
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funky chicken Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:15:07pm |
re: #181 Gus
I think they're trying to "force" Paul Ryan on him.
Huh. I forgot about Pawlenty. The guy isn't doing anything else right now, unlike Jindal, Rubio, and Ryan. He's got nothing to lose, which is why my money's on him. But Rubio might be dumb enough to take the offer. Shudder.
Anyway, good night :).
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Mich-again Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:15:11pm |
re: #167 Gus
Doesn't he also blink more?
Yeah, but uncontrolled blinking shouldn't be a problem for him. It got him this far.
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goddamnedfrank Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:15:37pm |
re: #97 Dark_Falcon
And he's right not to release them. Doing so would only make things worse at this point. Although, I do think he should just make it clear: Mitt should reply to someone asking about the returns by saying "No, and that's my final answer on the subject. I've released 2010 and will release 2011, but no more. I will not answer further questions about this matter nor will my campaign."
He didn't release all the 2010 information though.
Romney released his 2010 tax return in January of this year, a document that first informed voters about the existence of his Swiss bank account and financial activities in Bermuda and the Cayman Islands. But people who own foreign bank accounts are required to file a separate document with the IRS that provides additional details on such overseas bank holdings, and Romney has not released that form to the public.
The Romney campaign did not respond to HuffPost's request to view the document.
Tax experts say it is almost certain that Romney did file the form, known as a Report on Foreign Bank and Financial Accounts, or "FBAR" in accountant slang. The penalty for not filing an FBAR can be severe, and the IRS would have expected to receive the form since Romney listed the Swiss bank account on his tax return. Listing the account on his tax return and then failing to file the subsequent FBAR would have been asking for a hefty fine, and would probably have heightened IRS scrutiny of prior tax filings.
Nevertheless, Romney's omission of the form from the earlier disclosure raises questions for tax policy experts about the function of his Swiss bank account, and whether or not Romney used other offshore bank accounts that did not generate interest.
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Mocking Jay Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:15:49pm |
re: #182 Bubblehead II
I am going to be LMAO watching Obama shred him. But then again, It may not happen. Nothing says Mittens has to face Obama in a debate or debates. He may figure that refusing to debate Obama is the least of
twothree evils (Tax Returns being the first).
Nah, he'll spend October being called a coward. And that'll be what's coming from his party...
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darthstar Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:16:33pm |
re: #187 Dark_Falcon
I don't live with my parents, haven't since 2004. And my dad is in Pennsylvania visiting my sister, who is in the hospital getting the medical crisis she suffered last month treated. Any other smartass lines?
I know...you're a big boy now. It was a joke. Hope your sister is okay, though she probably doesn't appreciate being used as an emotional hammer on some political blog...I know I wouldn't.
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Talking Point Detective Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:16:54pm |
re: #96 Digital Display
1.Fitting a global playoff into the span of 2 weeks is almost impossible
2. Money
3. It could be worked out if they would wear Speedos
Baseball players in Speedos (think Sabathia, Fielder, etc.).
Definitely not a good idea.
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Gus Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:17:18pm |
re: #196 jaunte
The inmates are agitated.
Very. After the CNN and Fox News polls showing Obama ahead by 9 points... on the same day. Bwahahaha!
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allegro Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:17:32pm |
re: #182 Bubblehead II
I am going to be LMAO watching Obama shred him. But then again, It may not happen. Nothing says Mittens has to face Obama in a debate or debates. He may figure that refusing to debate Obama is the least of
twothree evils (Tax Returns being the first).
I believe three are already scheduled. If Mitt cancels now it wouldn't look good for him.
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darthstar Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:17:36pm |
Women's volleyball is on. My wife is sitting next to me. That means I have to keep typing with both hands.
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dragonath Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:18:05pm |
re: #199 Talking Point Detective
Baseball players in Speedos (think Sabathia, Fielder, etc.).
Definitely not a good idea.
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Mich-again Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:18:15pm |
re: #171 ggt
Yeah, he seems to think the rest of us are in the same movie --he is performing a script and will dictate to the rest of us what parts we shall play.
Someday his biography will be a made for TV movie.. Citizen Bain.
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Lidane Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:18:30pm |
re: #152 CarleeCork
I cannot wait for the debates! Mitt is in way over his head.
If he bets Barack Obama any money during the debate, the reactions on the right will be amazing.
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funky chicken Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:18:40pm |
re: #186 aagcobb
I expect Portman, because that's the safest selection.
I think Portman announced he wants to remain in the Senate either yesterday or today. It's gonna be a dead-ender like Pawlenty, IMHO.
good night for real now :)
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Only The Lurker Knows Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:19:28pm |
re: #189 Targetpractice
Take a second and picture Mitt Romney trying to act irate and mean on live TV in any manner that would invoke support rather than laughter.
I gave up trying after the hour mark.
Took me long enough to read this before I was laughing.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:19:59pm |
re: #191 allegro
Nonsense. If this was true, those same people would be all for sex education, birth control, and support for young mothers and their children. They don't. It's about control of women and their choices and sexuality. Don't fall for the "it's about the precious babeeeees!" line. It's bullshit.
They don't feel any obligation to the infant besides getting it born, no, but Dark's adequately summed up their thought process as far as it goes.
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erik_t Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:20:02pm |
Seriously. Regardless of whether it's fair or honest or whatever, I DGAF at the moment, I'd deeply love to hear from one or any Romney apologist why we should vote for someone who is easier to play than a fiddle. With, literally, decades to prepare for a coming PR assault. Decades. Fiddles should be so goddamned lucky.
But I'm supposed to think Obama is weak on the international stage or whatever? LOLWUT? I'm amazed Romney knows how to send his subordinates to order at McDonald's without getting utterly mystified by this 'Super-Sizing' craze.
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Targetpractice Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:20:09pm |
re: #185 jaunte
Nate Silver:
Aug. 9: National Polls Shouldn’t Panic RomneyConservative smoothing parameters in Loess regression!
So, I get from the first few paragraphs, including the one including pointing to Rasmussen as anything other than example of how far in the tank they are for the GOP, tells me this guy is bound and determined to put a shine to the turd the party has been handed, no matter what.
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dragonath Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:21:07pm |
re: #205 Lidane
If he bets Barack Obama any money during the debate, the reactions on the right will be amazing.
"I bid 10,000 quatloos!"
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darthstar Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:21:08pm |
re: #185 jaunte
Nate Silver:
Aug. 9: National Polls Shouldn’t Panic RomneyConservative smoothing parameters in Loess regression!
Romney is panicked by Ann Coulter and Michele Malkin, for chrissakes...polls probably have him shitting his magic underwear.
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Mocking Jay Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:21:31pm |
re: #210 Targetpractice
So, I get from the first few paragraphs, including the one including pointing to Rasmussen as anything other than example of how far in the tank they are for the GOP, tells me this guy is bound and determined to put a shine to the turd the party has been handed, no matter what.
I've never thought Nate Silver to be all that biased.
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erik_t Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:22:06pm |
re: #210 Targetpractice
So, I get from the first few paragraphs, including the one including pointing to Rasmussen as anything other than example of how far in the tank they are for the GOP, tells me this guy is bound and determined to put a shine to the turd the party has been handed, no matter what.
Silver is beyond all reproach. If he told me the sky was green on 72% of Thursdays, I'd go and check.
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jaunte Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:22:40pm |
re: #212 darthstar
Yeah, at this point I'm not sure what a further panicked Romney is going to look like.
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jaunte Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:23:52pm |
re: #210 Targetpractice
I think Silver is just pointing out that it's still going to be close.
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Digital Display Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:24:22pm |
re: #201 allegro
I believe three are already scheduled. If Mitt cancels now it wouldn't look good for him.
Nothing else matters until the debates.. Generally speaking.. It's the Superbowl of politics...I can't wait!
It's too simple to think Fucking tax returns will matter more than 5 minutes...
This election turns on the economy, Energy policy, Foreign policy and border security just to start...
It will be epic debates and no one from either party should count any chickens yet
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Targetpractice Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:24:27pm |
re: #215 erik_t
Silver is beyond all reproach. If he told me the sky was green on 72% of Thursdays, I'd go and check.
What's hilarious is that he first spent an entire article back in '10 defending Rasmussen as not being biased, then acknowledged after the midterms that they were in fact the least accurate of all the polls, with a pro-Republican biased of 5.9 points average.
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gwangung Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:24:35pm |
re: #215 erik_t
Yeah, he's what a pundit should be: in their specialty, he says it like it is, and can back it up with reams and reams of data.
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goddamnedfrank Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:24:58pm |
re: #210 Targetpractice
So, I get from the first few paragraphs, including the one including pointing to Rasmussen as anything other than example of how far in the tank they are for the GOP, tells me this guy is bound and determined to put a shine to the turd the party has been handed, no matter what.
Nate Silver is both liberal and gay. He just doesn't let that affect his statistical analysis. He's also ripped Rasmussen in the past and his model accounts for their bias / house effect.
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aagcobb Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:25:23pm |
re: #210 Targetpractice
So, I get from the first few paragraphs, including the one including pointing to Rasmussen as anything other than example of how far in the tank they are for the GOP, tells me this guy is bound and determined to put a shine to the turd the party has been handed, no matter what.
Nate Silver is a liberal and a stats God. He knows his shit and he really is fair and balanced.
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CarleeCork Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:25:44pm |
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Only The Lurker Knows Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:25:56pm |
re: #201 allegro
I believe three are already scheduled. If Mitt cancels now it wouldn't look good for him.
Then I guess I had better make sure I have the beer, popcorn and the spew shield up so I don't get the first two all over my monitor when Romney totally blows it
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Targetpractice Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:26:20pm |
re: #221 goddamnedfrank
Nate Silver is both liberal and gay. He just doesn't let that affect his statistical analysis. He's also ripped Rasmussen in the past and his model accounts for their bias / house effect.
re: #222 aagcobb
Nate Silver is a liberal and a stats God. He knows his shit and he really is fair and balanced.
I stand corrected.
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Mocking Jay Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:26:33pm |
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CarleeCork Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:27:04pm |
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Lidane Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:27:06pm |
re: #222 aagcobb
Nate Silver is a liberal and a stats God. He knows his shit and he really is fair and balanced.
Stats God is putting it mildly. His final prediction for the 2008 election outcome was off by something like .1%. It doesn't get any better than that.
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Mocking Jay Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:27:26pm |
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Gus Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:27:38pm |
re: #217 jaunte
I think Silver is just pointing out that it's still going to be close.
Yep. Still, it's a lot of fun helping to stir up the panic...
BREAKING NEWS: TWO NATIONAL POLLS SHOW OBAMA LEADING ROMNEY BY 9 POINTS!!11TY
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aagcobb Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:27:49pm |
re: #223 CarleeCork
What about Huntsman?
A lot of teabag heads would explode. I don't think he and Romney like each other very much, and two Mormons doesn't make for a very balanced ticket.
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Mocking Jay Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:27:50pm |
re: #228 Lidane
Stats God is putting it mildly. His final prediction for the election outcome was off by something like .1%. It doesn't get any better than that.
Well, technically speaking it does...
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allegro Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:27:56pm |
re: #218 Digital Display
Nothing else matters until the debates.. Generally speaking.. It's the Superbowl of politics...I can't wait!
It's too simple to think Fucking tax returns will matter more than 5 minutes...
This election turns on the economy, Energy policy, Foreign policy and border security just to start...
It will be epic debates and no one from either party should count any chickens yet
I think that considering performances to date from both men, predicting an outcome of Obama taking Romney to the proverbial woodshed is a kinda safe bet. I do not envision Romney competing on even a basic level.
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darthstar Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:28:49pm |
re: #227 CarleeCork
But he's sane, and he believes in science.
And he's another Mormon. Romney wouldn't be caught dead with another Mormon at this stage.
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aagcobb Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:28:59pm |
re: #227 CarleeCork
But he's sane, and he believes in science.
I don't think those are qualities which find much favor in the current GOP.
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Targetpractice Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:29:11pm |
re: #233 allegro
I think that considering performances to date from both men, predicting an outcome of Obama taking Romney to the proverbial woodshed is a kinda safe bet. I do not envision Romney competing on even a basic level.
Romney's debate performances to date have not instilled me a confidence that he can do more than stand at the podium and smile. Thinking on his feet does not appearance to be one of his strong suits.
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Mich-again Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:29:16pm |
Millions of dollars in political ads spent with a network will be somewhat effective shifting public opinion and very effective shifting the slant of the news.
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danarchy Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:29:37pm |
re: #223 CarleeCork
What about Huntsman?
2 Mormon "moderate" republicans on the same ticket? I doubt he was even vetted.
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darthstar Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:29:43pm |
re: #230 Gus
Yep. Still, it's a lot of fun helping to stir up the panic...
BREAKING NEWS: TWO NATIONAL POLLS SHOW OBAMA LEADING ROMNEY BY 9 POINTS!!11TY
And one of those polls is from Fox...and even Rasmussen has Obama leading now.
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Talking Point Detective Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:30:03pm |
re: #215 erik_t
Silver is beyond all reproach. If he told me the sky was green on 72% of Thursdays, I'd go and check.
I think his analysis is extremely robust. Obviously, he could be wrong. I wouldn't suggest betting on it.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:31:10pm |
re: #234 darthstar
And he's another Mormon. Romney wouldn't be caught dead with another Mormon at this stage.
He needs either a real Protestant, or one of those odd Catholics who somehow get accepted as quasi-Evangelicals because they don't act like normal Catholics.
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CarleeCork Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:31:21pm |
re: #238 danarchy
2 Mormon "moderate" republicans on the same ticket? I doubt he was even vetted.
Will he risk picking a woman?
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Mocking Jay Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:31:29pm |
re: #234 darthstar
And he's another Mormon. Romney wouldn't be caught dead with another Mormon at this stage.
Huh. I honestly hadn't thought of that.
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Gus Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:31:38pm |
Remember the Derrick Bell "exclusive" put out by the Breitbart idiots? LOL
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darthstar Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:31:52pm |
re: #236 Targetpractice
Romney's debate performances to date have not instilled me a confidence that he can do more than stand at the podium and smile. Thinking on his feet does not appearance to be one of his strong suits.
But everyone in the media swears he's an awesome debater and will pose a real challenge to Obama...remember how he grabbed Perry's shoulder and the $10,000 bet? Masterful moments in US debate history. (// on that last sentence)
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Shiplord Kirel Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:32:15pm |
I've noticed something odd:
Corsi bears a striking physical resemblance to Alex Jones, except that Corsi is 27 years older. They both have the same jowly, beady-eyed, moon faced look. Are they related or is there some widespread genetic complex that controls both this and the inclination to spout bat-shit conspiracy theories?
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jaunte Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:32:28pm |
re: #242 CarleeCork
Seems doubtful after the McCain/Palin ticket.
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Mocking Jay Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:32:31pm |
re: #242 CarleeCork
Will he risk picking a woman?
Why do you say risk? The only problem there is that any competent Republican woman are pro-choice.
An by problem I mean deal-breaker.
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Mocking Jay Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:32:50pm |
re: #246 Shiplord Kirel
I've noticed something odd:
Corsi bears a striking physical resemblance to Alex Jones, except that Corsi is 27 years older. They both have the same jowly, beady-eyed, moon faced look. Are they related or is there some widespread genetic complex that controls both this and the inclination to spout bat-shit conspiracy theories?
O.O
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:32:54pm |
re: #242 CarleeCork
Will he risk picking a woman?
They tried that, it didn't work.
Also, he's going to be kissing up to the religious right, hard, and most women will not sit well with them. Palin and Bachmann are the only two they seem really content with in office, and even so, Bryan Fischer did a lot of waffling over Michele's campaign, and whether a woman should really lead.
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aagcobb Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:33:15pm |
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erik_t Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:34:44pm |
re: #240 Talking Point Detective
I think his analysis is extremely robust. Obviously, he could be wrong. I wouldn't suggest betting on it.
Well, if we're having that talk, you've got to be a damned fool to bet on politics. But if you're doing so, I'd take Silver's results as a solid baseline.
As opposed to bassline, which I first typed. Don't bet on a bassline. Fish on a bassline. Unless you like betting on fishing.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:35:08pm |
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allegro Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:35:29pm |
Isn't the convention coming up in a couple of weeks? We should know his VP sucker pick pretty soon.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:36:03pm |
I'm gonna sign off. Haven't got much to say tonight other than to report that my sister is on the mend and that was confirmed today. So to those who said a prayer for her back in July, my most earnest thanks. Good Night.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:36:15pm |
re: #180 Dark_Falcon
Those who favor not allowing such abortions regard the fetus as a person, and as such that person's right to live trumps considerations of the mother's emotional health or letting the scumbag claim a victory.
Note: I do not subscribe to this view, I am simply articulating it for purposes of discussion.
I'm not so sure, I think a whole lot of them see it as the "natural order" of things. Men's rights over women, he wants sex, product of said sex belongs to him . . .
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goddamnedfrank Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:36:36pm |
re: #227 CarleeCork
But he's sane, and he believes in science.
Two more strikes against him. He's also Mormon. The one thing that unites the Republican establishment and the base, besides their hatred for Obama, is their antipathy towards an all Mormon ticket.
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Targetpractice Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:36:53pm |
re: #255 allegro
Isn't the convention coming up in a couple of weeks? We should know his VP
suckerpick pretty soon.
End of the month, IIRC. But I figure he's gonna hold off as long as he can, if only for his campaign to keep the ability to tease the press about an imminent announcement as a means of distracting them from more questions about his returns.
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danarchy Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:36:58pm |
re: #242 CarleeCork
Will he risk picking a woman?
I think the only ones who have been mentioned Condi Rice, Susana Martinez and Kelly Ayotte. Condi is too close to the Bush administration and don't really think she has any desire to be a politician. The other two have the Palin problem, both early in their first terms, sort of unknown quantities.
I really think it is either Rubio or Portman.
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Targetpractice Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:38:14pm |
re: #260 danarchy
I think the only ones who have been mentioned Condi Rice, Susana Martinez and Kelly Ayotte. Condi is too close to the Bush administration and don't really think she has any desire to be a politician. The other two have the Palin problem, both early in their first terms, sort of unknown quantities.
I really think it is either Rubio or Portman.
I've heard Bachmann mentioned more as a "wild-assed guess" option, while Nikki Haley's been bounced around since she's supposed to be speaking at the convention.
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Mocking Jay Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:38:51pm |
re: #259 Targetpractice
End of the month, IIRC. But I figure he's gonna hold off as long as he can, if only for his campaign to keep the ability to tease the press about an imminent announcement as a means of distracting them from more questions about his returns.
I would have thought that naming the VP would distract the press from him with a "squirrel" moment.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:38:59pm |
re: #191 allegro
Nonsense. If this was true, those same people would be all for sex education, birth control, and support for young mothers and their children. They don't. It's about control of women and their choices and sexuality. Don't fall for the "it's about the precious babeeeees!" line. It's bullshit.
If men could get pregnant, such things would be dogma.
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Mich-again Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:39:04pm |
Assume the race were already over and that one side or the other had zero chance of winning come election day. Then, fewer people would tune into the barrage of TV shows focused on the race, voters would stop donating money one way or the other, and the networks would lose out on the viewer ratings and the ad revenue.
It's in everyone's best interests to keep this thing close as long as possible.
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erik_t Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:39:17pm |
re: #260 danarchy
Rubio is not pure WASP an Other. Portman is a given. He's well-liked in his home state, which is swing-y. If that moron has a clue-bone in his body, he picks Portman.
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darthstar Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:39:48pm |
re: #261 Targetpractice
I've heard Bachmann mentioned more as a "wild-assed guess" option, while Nikki Haley's been bounced around since she's supposed to be speaking at the convention.
The base has turned on Haley. She's not teabagger enough for them, she's a woman, and she's not white.
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darthstar Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:40:17pm |
re: #263 ggt
If men could get pregnant, such things would be dogma.
If men could get pregnant, abortion would be a sacrament.
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dragonath Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:40:29pm |
I wouldn't be surprised if the vice presidential slot goes to some random Southern senator that we don't hear much about, like Lamar Alexander or something.
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Digital Display Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:40:48pm |
re: #233 allegro
I think that considering performances to date from both men, predicting an outcome of Obama taking Romney to the proverbial woodshed is a kinda safe bet. I do not envision Romney competing on even a basic level.
Hi you! The debates will be epic...
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Mocking Jay Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:41:22pm |
If men could get pregnant, Planned Parenthood would be 90% abortion.
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Gus Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:41:33pm |
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Targetpractice Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:41:49pm |
re: #265 erik_t
Rubio is
not pure WASPan Other. Portman is a given. He's well-liked in his home state, which is swing-y. If that moron has a clue-bone in his body, he picks Portman.
Portman's also as charismatically-dead as Willard, so it means he avoids having a VP who attracts more attention than he does. But he's also got connections to both presidents Bush, which means a lot of questions about where they fit into the Romney campaign.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:42:33pm |
re: #272 Targetpractice
Portman's also as charismatically-dead as Willard, so it means he avoids having a VP who attracts more attention than he does. But he's also got connections to both presidents Bush, which means a lot of questions about where they fit into the Romney campaign.
Willard
(*snicker*)
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Targetpractice Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:43:34pm |
re: #274 ggt
Willard
(*snicker*)
I've had a few wingnuts get huffy about me calling him that. I responded that I'll keep calling him Willard for as long as they kept insisting on calling Obama "Barry" or "Barack Hussein Obama."
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darthstar Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:43:38pm |
Women's volleyball is a violent sport. Sexy as fuck, but violent as hell. Grod I love watching these women beat the crap out of each other with a ball...it really is impressive.
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MittDoesNotCompute Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:43:50pm |
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Digital Display Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:44:03pm |
re: #270 Mocking Jay
If men could get pregnant, Planned Parenthood would be 90% abortion.
I'm not sure about that.. One thing I do know..
Planned Parenthood would be 100% funded and woe begone anyone not supporting complete child care..
We'd probably go to war over it
/
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:44:13pm |
Some of the more optimistic Romney boosters I speak to on line (who are mostly Brits, long story), seem to have this idea that he has a wide range of potential VPs to choose from that will send windfalls of special-interest votes tumbling into his lap.
Permit me leave to doubt.
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freetoken Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:44:22pm |
re: #271 Gus
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Lidane Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:44:43pm |
re: #270 Mocking Jay
If men could get pregnant, Planned Parenthood would be 90% abortion.
If men could get pregnant, the morning after pill would be freely available at every bar in the country, right next to the bowls of beer nuts.
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erik_t Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:44:51pm |
re: #272 Targetpractice
Portman's also as charismatically-dead as Willard, so it means he avoids having a VP who attracts more attention than he does. But he's also got connections to both presidents Bush, which means a lot of questions about where they fit into the Romney campaign.
What's a Bush?
/furtive glance
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MittDoesNotCompute Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:44:56pm |
re: #103 Targetpractice
Seriously, you think if he refuses to comment on the subject, it'll just go away?
Mitt (and those in the tank for him, party uber alles) are banking on it.
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Targetpractice Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:45:11pm |
re: #279 SanFranciscoZionist
Some of the more optimistic Romney boosters I speak to on line (who are mostly Brits, long story), seem to have this idea that he has a wide range of potential VPs to choose from that will send windfalls of special-interest votes tumbling into his lap.
Permit me leave to doubt.
Oh, theoretically any of the short listers could serve to help him win over some voters, but the voters he'll lose, not to mention the baggage that will come along, will be a net negative.
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goddamnedfrank Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:45:19pm |
re: #265 erik_t
Rubio is
not pure WASPan Other. Portman is a given. He's well-liked in his home state, which is swing-y. If that moron has a clue-bone in his body, he picks Portman.
Portman isn't that well liked. His home state approval rating is 33% to 25% unfavorable.
I agree that he's the most likely pick, but he's just another rich guy who will be instantly hamstrung and unable to release more than two years worth of tax returns because of the corner Romney's painted his entire campaign into.
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jaunte Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:45:27pm |
Crazy, huh? RT @chiachiapet fell asleep at Huffpo, made national news nation.foxnews.com/van-jones/2012… …
— Van Jones (@VanJones68) August 10, 2012
Van Jones took a nap, gave Fox Nation another two minute hate.
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Mich-again Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:46:07pm |
As for the Veep pick, I say this, there is no depth too low for Mitt to stoop if it will give him a chance at winning. None of the names we've heard tossed around are both feasible and bold enough.
Long shot dark horse.. Rand Paul. ha.
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erik_t Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:47:09pm |
re: #285 goddamnedfrank
I agree that he's the most likely pick, but he's just another rich guy who will be instantly hamstrung and unable to release more than two years worth of tax returns because of the corner Romney's painted his entire campaign into.
Oh, goodness, yes. Not good, just least bad.
What is Anything Republicans for $500, Alex?
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Targetpractice Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:47:09pm |
re: #287 Mich-again
As for the Veep pick, I say this, there is no depth too low for Mitt to stoop if it will give him a chance at winning. None of the names we've heard tossed around are both feasible and bold enough.
Long shot dark horse.. Rand Paul. ha.
Not a chance, Aqua Budda's gotta carry on daddy's legacy. Being on the same ticket as Willard would be committing political seppuku.
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MittDoesNotCompute Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:47:43pm |
re: #123 Gus
Uh oh. Now he's done it.
Gov. Christie: The ‘Gaze Of Intolerance’ Against Muslims ‘Is Disturbing To Me’
By Ben Armbruster on Aug 9, 2012 at 5:34 pmContinues.
Sorta rich given Christie's argumentative history, but right is right, no matter who says it.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:48:14pm |
re: #284 Targetpractice
Oh, theoretically any of the short listers could serve to help him win over some voters, but the voters he'll lose, not to mention the baggage that will come along, will be a net negative.
One of these guys told me that if he picked Condi, the NAACP would have to reconsider their endorsement.
Not terribly plugged in, but very hopeful.
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Targetpractice Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:49:53pm |
re: #292 SanFranciscoZionist
One of these guys told me that if he picked Condi, the NAACP would have to reconsider their endorsement.
Not terribly plugged in, but very hopeful.
The wingnuts had a collective heart attack when it "leaked" that Condi was being considered, then breathed a collective sigh of relief when it was confirmed she's not even on the short list. Something to do with thinking women should have control over their own bodies or somethin'.
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allegro Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:50:53pm |
re: #272 Targetpractice
Portman's also as charismatically-dead as Willard, so it means he avoids having a VP who attracts more attention than he does. But he's also got connections to both presidents Bush, which means a lot of questions about where they fit into the Romney campaign.
Both presidents Bush have opted out of the upcoming Repub convention from what I've heard. Kinda telling methinks.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:51:36pm |
re: #293 Targetpractice
The wingnuts had a collective heart attack when it "leaked" that Condi was being considered, then breathed a collective sigh of relief when it was confirmed she's not even on the short list. Something to do with thinking women should have control over their own bodies or somethin'.
The list of reasons why not Condi Rice is a long one. Starting with, she's not interested, and going from there.
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Lidane Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:52:03pm |
Dig the boilerplate answer:
Romney: My VP Needs To Have A ‘Vision For The Country’
CHUCK TODD: What do you want your running mate to say about you? What do you want your selection to say about what kind of president you’re going to be?
GOV. MITT ROMNEY: I don’t think I have anything for you on the VP running mate. Other than I – I certainly expect to have a person that has a strength of character, a vision for the country that adds something to the political discourse about the direction of the country. I happen to believe this is a defining election for America, that we’re going to be voting for what kind of America we’re going to have.
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SpaceJesus Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:52:04pm |
it's going to be allen west and it's going to be amazing
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Targetpractice Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:52:37pm |
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erik_t Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:53:02pm |
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Lidane Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:53:09pm |
re: #297 SpaceJesus
it's going to be allen west and it's going to be amazing
If he goes with Allen West, I'll have to buy booze for the VP debate. That will be fun.
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MittDoesNotCompute Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:53:33pm |
re: #246 Shiplord Kirel
I've noticed something odd:
Corsi bears a striking physical resemblance to Alex Jones, except that Corsi is 27 years older. They both have the same jowly, beady-eyed, moon faced look. Are they related or is there some widespread genetic complex that controls both this and the inclination to spout bat-shit conspiracy theories?
Sitting in front of a computer all day/night down in the basement, scarfing Cheetos and guzzling Mountain Dew or Jolt while tossing out wild-eyed CTs, can do that to you.
///sorta
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Targetpractice Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:54:28pm |
re: #297 SpaceJesus
it's going to be allen west and it's going to be amazing
Saw a Freeper yesterday suggest Allen West. I nearly fell over giggling.
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goddamnedfrank Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:55:34pm |
The best possible VP candidate, Chesley "Sully" Sullenberger.
Seriously, be honest now, y'all just wet yourselves a little, huh.
Dear Romney Campaign, you can thank me later for that awesome fucking free advice.
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Lidane Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:55:42pm |
re: #298 Targetpractice
So Paul Ryan then?
That's my guess. Ryan or Portman.
Jindal isn't stupid enough to want national attention after his Kenneth the Page moment and Rubio is self-aware enough (I think) to want a political future, so he'll sit out too. Pawlenty might as well be a dead weight piece of furniture and Huntsman is too rich, too Mormon, and doesn't like Mitt all that much anyway.
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danarchy Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:55:55pm |
re: #265 erik_t
Rubio is
not pure WASPan Other. Portman is a given. He's well-liked in his home state, which is swing-y. If that moron has a clue-bone in his body, he picks Portman.
I don't know, Rubio gives him a trifecta of things you usually look for in a running mate. He could potential help in his home state, he fills a gap in the ticket i.e. charisma, and there is an outside chance he may help on the margins with the latino community which romney desperately needs to improve his numbers with.
Romney himself won't care about the Otherness, it will just be a calculation of whether he loses more wingnut votes than he gains in the other areas. And seriously the wingnuts are are so rabid about replacing obama what are the chances they vote for someone else or stay home?
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Only The Lurker Knows Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:56:36pm |
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SpaceJesus Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:56:45pm |
re: #303 Targetpractice
freep dream ticket is palin/west
unironically, this is also my dream gop ticket
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Lidane Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:57:21pm |
re: #306 danarchy
I don't know, Rubio gives him a trifecta of things you usually look for in a running mate. He could potential help in his home state, he fills a gap in the ticket i.e. charisma, and there is an outside chance he may help on the margins with the latino community which romney desperately needs to improve his numbers with.
He also enrages the birthers and wingnuts, since they don't think he's a citizen either.
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jaunte Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:57:56pm |
Palin/West sounds like a Phoenix mobile home park.
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allegro Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:58:04pm |
re: #296 Lidane
I happen to believe this is a defining election for America, that we’re going to be voting for what kind of America we’re going to have.
With this I agree. A GOP/Romney America is not a place I want to live in.
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freetoken Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:58:18pm |
re: #297 SpaceJesus
it's going to be allen west and it's going to be amazing
Wecanonlypray.
AndbythewayIcan'ttypespacesbecausewhenIdoChromedoesn'tgivemespacesbutinsteadplaysthemp3Iembeddedearlier.
Justpretendwe'rewritingbeforespaceswereinvented.
Damnthesecomputers.
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Targetpractice Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:59:14pm |
re: #306 danarchy
I don't know, Rubio gives him a trifecta of things you usually look for in a running mate. He could potential help in his home state, he fills a gap in the ticket i.e. charisma, and there is an outside chance he may help on the margins with the latino community which romney desperately needs to improve his numbers with.
Romney himself won't care about the Otherness, it will just be a calculation of whether he looses more wingnut votes than he gains in the other areas. And seriously the wingnuts are are so rabid about replacing obama what are the chances they vote for someone else or stay home?
Pretty high, if you talk to them. The few I've spoken to were livid yesterday after the Romneycare "gaffe." Most are in the "Holding nose" category, so there's not much more they'll take before they either stay home or go third party.
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Targetpractice Thu, Aug 9, 2012 10:00:29pm |
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MittDoesNotCompute Thu, Aug 9, 2012 10:00:41pm |
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Targetpractice Thu, Aug 9, 2012 10:03:28pm |
The thing is, just because the wingnuts hate Obama with the heat of a thousand suns doesn't mean they're gonna put up with a whole lot of shit from Romney. If you do, then you need to take a stroll over to FR and tell the Freepers that it's Romney or nothing. I'll wait here with the fire extinguisher ready.
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MittDoesNotCompute Thu, Aug 9, 2012 10:07:25pm |
re: #320 Targetpractice
The thing is, just because the wingnuts hate Obama with the heat of a thousand suns doesn't mean they're gonna put up with a whole lot of shit from Romney. If you do, then you need to take a stroll over to FR and tell the Freepers that it's Romney or nothing. I'll wait here with the fire extinguisher ready.
Hardcore Freepers, starting with JimRob, are severely disconnected from reality, as it currently exists in the GOP.
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Targetpractice Thu, Aug 9, 2012 10:09:18pm |
re: #321 TedStriker
Hardcore Freepers, starting with JimRob, are severely disconnected from reality, as it currently exists in the GOP.
I've not met many wingnuts who don't fall into one of two categories: 1) I'm voting for Romney because he's different "enough" from Obama or 2) I'd rather be caught dead than vote for "Obama-lite."
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Aug 9, 2012 10:11:11pm |
re: #275 Targetpractice
I've had a few wingnuts get huffy about me calling him that. I responded that I'll keep calling him Willard for as long as they kept insisting on calling Obama "Barry" or "Barack Hussein Obama."
i can't help it, all I can think of is the rat movie.
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freetoken Thu, Aug 9, 2012 10:11:17pm |
This whole VP thing is still falls flat on me. I thought we all agreed that this choice doesn't really help, but it can hurt iff Romney makes a really Palin bad choice?
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Mocking Jay Thu, Aug 9, 2012 10:11:47pm |
These polls numbers are excellent news for Mitt Romney.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Aug 9, 2012 10:14:38pm |
a girlfriend of mine was scheduled to be induced into labor yesterday morning. It's her 5th child and she is considered a high risk. I am on pins and needles. She hasn't posted to her fb (which I don't blame her). You should see the posts of people wanting to know how it all went. Must be 2 pages worth.
I'm dying to know and I scared too.
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JamesWI Thu, Aug 9, 2012 10:15:32pm |
It would be funny to find out it was a purity ring......wingnut heads explode.
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Reverend Mother Ramallo Thu, Aug 9, 2012 10:17:18pm |
re: #97 Dark_Falcon
No.
Don't you see? The refusal is the essence of the problem. What's in them is secondary.
He's asking me, if only for awhile, to trust him with my babies' futures. Why would i do that? Based on what, his word?
It is my right to know whether or not he's gonna steal the money from their piggy banks. I would be doing my children a disservice.
After all, Mitt wouldn't hire a maid he found suspect.
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Targetpractice Thu, Aug 9, 2012 10:19:00pm |
re: #324 freetoken
This whole VP thing is still falls flat on me. I thought we all agreed that this choice doesn't really help, but it can hurt iff Romney makes a really
Palinbad choice?
Like I said above, theoretically there are those on the short list who could help him with certain swaths of voters, but only at a net loss as others see what baggage the VP is hauling with him and book it.
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Gus Thu, Aug 9, 2012 10:21:20pm |
re: #325 Mocking Jay
These polls numbers are excellent news for Mitt Romney.
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Spin, spin, spin!
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Aug 9, 2012 10:26:35pm |
re: #324 freetoken
This whole VP thing is still falls flat on me. I thought we all agreed that this choice doesn't really help, but it can hurt iff Romney makes a really
Palinbad choice?
If he makes a Palin-bad choice, it's the kiss of death.
A decent VP pick will keep him in the game, although his chances are extremely poor. Pick a gimmick VP, and he's sunk.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Aug 9, 2012 10:26:58pm |
re: #326 ggt
a girlfriend of mine was scheduled to be induced into labor yesterday morning. It's her 5th child and she is considered a high risk. I am on pins and needles. She hasn't posted to her fb (which I don't blame her). You should see the posts of people wanting to know how it all went. Must be 2 pages worth.
I'm dying to know and I scared too.
Hang in there.
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palomino Thu, Aug 9, 2012 10:29:19pm |
re: #306 danarchy
I don't know, Rubio gives him a trifecta of things you usually look for in a running mate. He could potential help in his home state, he fills a gap in the ticket i.e. charisma, and there is an outside chance he may help on the margins with the latino community which romney desperately needs to improve his numbers with.
Romney himself won't care about the Otherness, it will just be a calculation of whether he loses more wingnut votes than he gains in the other areas. And seriously the wingnuts are are so rabid about replacing obama what are the chances they vote for someone else or stay home?
This is one of the things my fellow Dems don't seem to understand. A huge swath of the gop has been propagandized into hating Obama with a passion most rational people can't fully comprehend. The average Republican doesn't give a damn, at this point, who the nominee is. They'd vote for a ham sandwich if it meant getting Obama out of office.
And Romney's bumbling campaign has made Dems overconfident. Economic conditions and other factors make this far from a sure thing.
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freetoken Thu, Aug 9, 2012 10:30:16pm |
re: #329 Targetpractice
Well... I don't know. My belief is that by now there is little to nothing Romney can do as far as VP pick that will get him many net votes.
What the Republicans have to carry off is this game of Obama-is-Scary to the masses who haven't been paying close attention, which is a lot of folk. The GOP is going to try and convince these non-committal votes that 1) the world is going to end in nuclear war because Obama is weak on on Iran, 2) neighborhoods will be less safe because the Obama administration favors "inner city" folk (yes, really), and 3) that our pensions will be destroyed because Obama is out to loot them, and most of all, 4) we're about to be hit by another deadly terrorist attack because the secretly-Muslim Obama is too sympathetic to Muslims.
Those are the buttons to push, and the GOP is pushing them, and they will continue to push them in hopes that the media-dazed citizen will find Obama just too scary.
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Only The Lurker Knows Thu, Aug 9, 2012 10:33:17pm |
Time to call it night Lizards. I hope your State isn't going up in flames like mine (Idaho) is.
Numerous wildfires smoke up much of Idaho’s air and eastward
The Halstead fire can be seen from space.
[Link: www.ktvb.com...]
The Cave Canyon fire is now prompting voluntary evacuations from an area about 10-15 miles to the South East of me.
Wildfire Sparks Voluntary Evacuation South of Hansen
And we also have this.
Mustang Complex Fire Grows To 3032 Acres
To top all this off. It is currently 2333 hrs MST and it is 80 degrees.
// Global warming? It's just a liberal conspiracy.
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palomino Thu, Aug 9, 2012 10:35:29pm |
re: #334 freetoken
Well... I don't know. My belief is that by now there is little to nothing Romney can do as far as VP pick that will get him many net votes.
What the Republicans have to carry off is this game of Obama-is-Scary to the masses who haven't been paying close attention, which is a lot of folk. The GOP is going to try and convince these non-committal votes that 1) the world is going to end in nuclear war because Obama is weak on on Iran, 2) neighborhoods will be less safe because the Obama administration favors "inner city" folk (yes, really), and 3) that our pensions will be destroyed because Obama is out to loot them, and most of all, 4) we're about to be hit by another deadly terrorist attack because the secretly-Muslim Obama is too sympathetic to Muslims.
Those are the buttons to push, and the GOP is pushing them, and they will continue to push them in hopes that the media-dazed citizen will find Obama just too scary.
During W's last 2 years, when his presidency was imploding under the weight of a collapsing economy and two endless aimless wars, his defenders loved to say, "At least he kept us safe [after 9/11]." They said this because there was little else in the way of good news.
Funny how they never give Obama the same credit for keeping us safe. It's been nearly 4 years since O took office, and no big terrorist acts have occurred. Where are the congrats to Obama for the security we now enjoy?
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goddamnedfrank Thu, Aug 9, 2012 10:39:29pm |
re: #333 palomino
The average Republican doesn't give a damn, at this point, who the nominee is. They'd vote for a ham sandwich if it meant getting Obama out of office.
We're not talking about the average Republican. Let's say picking Rubio is the final straw for the fringiest 5%. Even a 1% drop in base support is going to be devastating to Romney, and the birthers are the most ideologically strict of the GOP base. These people are the most socially conservative to begin with and essentially hate Romney just a little bit less than Obama as is. Romney, by essentially thumbing his nose at the entire premise for their objection to Obama's legitimacy will cause many of them to happily stay home just to spite their establishment friends.
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Targetpractice Thu, Aug 9, 2012 10:52:57pm |
re: #337 goddamnedfrank
We're not talking about the average Republican. Let's say picking Rubio is the final straw for the fringiest 5%. Even a 1% drop in base support is going to be devastating to Romney, and the birthers are the most ideologically strict of the GOP base. These people are the most socially conservative to begin with and essentially hate Romney just a little bit less than Obama as is. Romney, by essentially thumbing his nose at the entire premise for their objection to Obama's legitimacy will cause many of them to happily stay home just to spite their establishment friends.
Ayep, their "support" of Romney is as deep as a parking lot puddle. He's a means to an end (Republican control) rather than the end itself. And only so long as he continues to do everything possible to keep as much of a distance between himself and Obama as possible. It's been suggested that yesterday was a trial balloon towards reembracing Romneycare, and the result was sheer chaos. Putting somebody that the wingnuts already hate or have reason to in the VP slot would be the dealbreaker.
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darthstar Thu, Aug 9, 2012 10:52:57pm |
We were inspired by the Obama video, "100 Days" to paint our garage door. So far, ALL the neighbors love it! twitter.com/FardigJudith/s...— Judith Fardig (@FardigJudith) August 10, 2012
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Aug 9, 2012 10:54:08pm |
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darthstar Thu, Aug 9, 2012 10:56:51pm |
I will give up my bacon when they pry it from my cold, dead, fingers... And if I eat bacon like this, that won't be long.
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Targetpractice Thu, Aug 9, 2012 10:59:31pm |
Romney's candidacy is a marriage of convenience: They put him on the ticket because he was the only guy standing and he's running for them because it's his only shot at the presidency.
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Reverend Mother Ramallo Thu, Aug 9, 2012 11:06:17pm |
re: #337 goddamnedfrank
Absolutely, and by being held hostage by the base, he's had no choice but to allow their insanity persist, and even court it. Landmines everywhere.
At any moment, he's going to step on the one that will kill him with a good share of undecideds.
Undecideds in this case, are those who don't think the Prez is great, but know that he's not Satan.
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darthstar Thu, Aug 9, 2012 11:07:45pm |
re: #344 Targetpractice
Romney's candidacy is a marriage of convenience: They put him on the ticket because he was the only guy standing and he's running for them because it's his only shot at the presidency.
I'm not a vindictive person by nature, but I do hope that, after this election is over, Mitt Romney's entire world crashes around him.
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Reverend Mother Ramallo Thu, Aug 9, 2012 11:14:14pm |
Well, my computer-talkity-box is actin' all crazy-like, so i guess that's my cue...
Goodnight all!
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Mocking Jay Thu, Aug 9, 2012 11:19:06pm |
re: #342 ggt
Yeah, I watched that an hour ago. This is a disgrace to democracy.
Ohio sets up one early-voting system for Republican counties, another for Democratic counties
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Lidane Thu, Aug 9, 2012 11:22:11pm |
re: #349 Mocking Jay
Yeah, I watched that an hour ago. This is a disgrace to democracy.
Ohio sets up one early-voting system for Republican counties, another for Democratic counties
But remember kids -- voter fraud is a problem and requires lots of new rules and legislation to stop it.
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Kragar Thu, Aug 9, 2012 11:58:53pm |
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Gus Fri, Aug 10, 2012 12:00:39am |
In all my life I've never seen such political craziness. This is what we learned from Swiftboating.
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freetoken Fri, Aug 10, 2012 12:08:35am |
re: #353 Gus
American politics has a long history of being crazy.
We're just so blessed now to the internet to make it all near real-time.
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Kragar Fri, Aug 10, 2012 12:11:27am |
re: #354 freetoken
American politics has a long history of being crazy.
We're just so blessed now to the internet to make it all near real-time.
I would like to think the number of crazy people per capita has stayed constant over time, its just that with the increased access to media, they've become more enabled and noticeable.
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freetoken Fri, Aug 10, 2012 12:12:02am |
I'm not really much into opera, though as I grow older I'm more tolerant of it. Yet there is no doubt much good music has been written as part of genre. Contemporary music consumers as a whole don't listen to it very much, and even well known pieces are only identified by little snippets of the entire song, when the whole piece can be very good, e.g.:
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Lidane Fri, Aug 10, 2012 12:13:46am |
re: #353 Gus
In all my life I've never seen such political craziness. This is what we learned from Swiftboating.
And from the same lunatic that brought us Swiftboating, at that.
The worst part is there are people who take Corsi seriously. That's scary.
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Kragar Fri, Aug 10, 2012 12:20:58am |
re: #357 Lidane
And from the same lunatic that brought us Swiftboating, at that.
The worst part is there are people who take Corsi seriously. That's scary.
Jerome Corsi becomes...
Rejoice Mr So
Coincedence? I think not.
So the question is how long has WND been under the control of the nefarious Mr. So?
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freetoken Fri, Aug 10, 2012 12:24:19am |
Among the super-rich Republican politicians, the McMahon's probably are dearer than the Romneys:
McMahon, husband earned $24.1M in 2011
Former wrestling executive and Republican Senate candidate Linda McMahon and her husband, Vince, have released their latest tax returns, which show the couple earned $24.1 million in 2011, a $6 million drop compared to their 2010 earnings.
Tim Murtaugh, McMahon's campaign spokesman, said the Greenwich couple filed their 2011 taxes on Thursday. Copies of the returns were provided to The Associated Press.
[...]Both Connecticut Democrats and McMahon's Republican primary foe, former U.S. Rep. Christopher Shays, had made an issue about McMahon's willingness to release her taxes. McMahon had said last month following a debate with Shays that "when it's done, we'll release them." Her campaign then released the couple's 2010 returns shortly afterward.
[...]
The 2011 returns show the McMahons paid about $3.6 million in federal taxes and $1.72 million in state taxes. As in 2010, much of the federal taxes were paid on dividend income, which is taxed at a 15.05 percent rate.
The latest returns also show that the couple made nearly $2.3 million in charitable contributions, with $2 million of that going to the Vince and Linda McMahon Family Foundation. [...]
15% federal rate? How's that compared to you?
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palomino Fri, Aug 10, 2012 12:28:04am |
re: #337 goddamnedfrank
We're not talking about the average Republican. Let's say picking Rubio is the final straw for the fringiest 5%. Even a 1% drop in base support is going to be devastating to Romney, and the birthers are the most ideologically strict of the GOP base. These people are the most socially conservative to begin with and essentially hate Romney just a little bit less than Obama as is. Romney, by essentially thumbing his nose at the entire premise for their objection to Obama's legitimacy will cause many of them to happily stay home just to spite their establishment friends.
I sincerely hope you're right. But we've got an enthusiasm problem on our side as well.
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Gus Fri, Aug 10, 2012 12:28:31am |
re: #354 freetoken
American politics has a long history of being crazy.
We're just so blessed now to the internet to make it all near real-time.
Candidate: Well now. Yes, yes, yes. Then I am here to say! That my opponent has sex with wildebeests!
[Crowd groans in horror.]
Crowd Member: Let's kill him! He's a bloody witch!
Candidate: Now, now, sir! Let's compose ourselves shall we?
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Kragar Fri, Aug 10, 2012 12:34:25am |
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Targetpractice Fri, Aug 10, 2012 12:35:26am |
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Gus Fri, Aug 10, 2012 12:38:21am |
This is pretty cool:
There are dozens of organized #hate groups in #Arizona already. ow.ly/cS8Ux— ADL (@ADL_National) August 10, 2012
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Targetpractice Fri, Aug 10, 2012 12:39:25am |
Give me a sec to put on my surprised face:
DOJ Will Not Prosecute Goldman Sachs in Financial Crisis Probe
The Justice Department has decided it will not prosecute Goldman Sachs or its employees for their role in the financial crisis, following an investigation by senators Carl Levin (D-MI) and Tom Coburn (R-OK). The congressional investigation found problems with the credit rating agencies and poor oversight from regulators, and highlighted abuses by Goldman Sachs and other large investment banks. Senator Levin sent a formal referral to the Justice Department for a criminal investigation in April 2011.
The investigative report by the Senate's Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, chaired by Levin, found that Goldman Sachs "used net short positions to benefit from the downturn in the mortgage market, and designed, marketed, and sold CDOs in ways that created conflicts of interest with the firm's clients and at times led to the bank's profiting from the same products that caused substantial losses for its clients."
A statement from the Justice Department issued late on Thursday evening noted, "Based on the law and evidence as they exist at this time, there is not a viable basis to bring a criminal prosecution with respect to Goldman Sachs or its employees in regard to the allegations set forth in the report."
"The department and its investigative partners conducted an exhaustive review of the report and its exhibits, independently gathered and scrutinized a large volume of other documents, and tenaciously pursued potential evidentiary leads, including conducting numerous witness interviews," the Justice Department's statement continued. "While the department and investigative agencies ultimately concluded that the burden of proof to bring a criminal case could not be met based on the law and facts as they exist at this time, we commend the hard work of those involved in preparing the report and thank the Senate's Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations for its cooperation in regard to the criminal investigation."
Translation: "Sorry, but nothing they did is technically illegal, so we can't prosecute them for a damned thing."
Amazing what can happen when you can write the law by stuffing enough campaign chests full of money.
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AK-47% Fri, Aug 10, 2012 12:44:28am |
re: #141 Targetpractice
Indeed, the platform still needs to be written. That's gonna be one hell of a clusterfuck.
The socons are gonna insist on some serious ideological language. Mitt will have to walk a tightrope of distancing himself from it to gain mainstream support while supporting it to maintain his conwservative base support.
Wretch-a-sketch!
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AK-47% Fri, Aug 10, 2012 12:48:46am |
re: #218 Digital Display
Nothing else matters until the debates.. Generally speaking.. It's the Superbowl of politics...I can't wait!
It's too simple to think Fucking tax returns will matter more than 5 minutes...
This election turns on the economy, Energy policy, Foreign policy and border security just to start...
It will be epic debates and no one from either party should count any chickens yet
The Dems also have to remind voters that the GOp is out to set back the clock on social progress by several decades: women especially should not take access to abortion or even contraception for granted.
Gays and religious minorities should not take their right to remain unmolested for granted.
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freetoken Fri, Aug 10, 2012 12:50:45am |
re: #362 Gus
Mitt Romney is embarrassed of himself. Weird.
Hmmm... putting on my Top Model photographer critique here... the hands are awkward, and the entire look projects awkwardness.
So... maybe yes, maybe it does have something to do with Mitt.
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Gus Fri, Aug 10, 2012 12:51:54am |
re: #373 freetoken
Hmmm... putting on my Top Model photographer critique here... the hands are awkward, and the entire look projects awkwardness.
So... maybe yes, maybe it does have something to do with Mitt.
Oops! Sorry. The censors pulled my response.
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freetoken Fri, Aug 10, 2012 12:55:15am |
re: #374 Gus
Well, if one really wants to have a chair in the shot, these are samples of better compositions and modeling:
Image: MF_Ballet_Study_GN722.jpg
and especially when dealing with long legs:
Image: 5984045-nude-ballerina-is-dancing-at-the-chair-monochrome-image.jpg
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Gus Fri, Aug 10, 2012 12:58:59am |
re: #375 freetoken
Well, if one really wants to have a chair in the shot, these are samples of better compositions and modeling:
Image: MF_Ballet_Study_GN722.jpg
and especially when dealing with long legs:
Image: 5984045-nude-ballerina-is-dancing-at-the-chair-monochrome-image.jpg
The hour is late for fencing. Shall we retire to the dressage house?
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AK-47% Fri, Aug 10, 2012 1:00:03am |
re: #376 Gus
The hour is late for fencing. Shall we retire to the dressage house?
How about some undressage, followed by a debriefing with extreme prejudice?
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Gus Fri, Aug 10, 2012 1:02:45am |
re: #377 Expand Your Ground
How about some undressage, followed by a debriefing with extreme prejudice?
True. We could have a Lizard dedicated to it.
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researchok Fri, Aug 10, 2012 1:20:09am |
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researchok Fri, Aug 10, 2012 1:31:24am |
re: #351 freetoken
Women don't swoon in German operas, like the do in Italian or French operas.
On the other hand, women will beat you about the head in German operas.
Trade offs.
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researchok Fri, Aug 10, 2012 1:34:21am |
re: #352 Kragar
From the lullaby collection, right?
/
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Kragar Fri, Aug 10, 2012 1:38:25am |
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Kragar Fri, Aug 10, 2012 1:43:12am |
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Dr Lizardo Fri, Aug 10, 2012 2:09:49am |
re: #135 Lidane
Is there something beyond "peak wingnut"? We may very well find out.
And good morning, lizards.
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AK-47% Fri, Aug 10, 2012 2:25:01am |
re: #386 Dr Lizardo
Is there something beyond "peak wingnut"? We may very well find out.
We are only looking at the run-up. It will reach a frenzy at the RNC, at which point Mitt will have to let it cool down before he can even stand in the same room with it...
Then after they (hopfully) lose the election, they will double down, attacking both Obama with renewed zeal and everyone in the party who made the "mistake" of not nominating a True Conservative.
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Dr Lizardo Fri, Aug 10, 2012 2:42:02am |
re: #387 Expand Your Ground
re: #387 Expand Your Ground
We are only looking at the run-up. It will reach a frenzy at the RNC, at which point Mitt will have to let it cool down before he can even stand in the same room with it...
Then after they (hopfully) lose the election, they will double down, attacking both Obama with renewed zeal and everyone in the party who made the "mistake" of not nominating a True Conservative.
I agree with that. Should President Obama be re-elected (hopefully), the right will go after him with a vengeance yet again, and will also attempt to purge the GOP of all those not ideologically "pure" enough. On that last point, I don't know how far the RW'ers will get, but they will make the attempt.
Of course, this would come after they recover from their hysteria at the realization that President Obama will be in office for four more years, and the resulting depression that will follow their loss (again, hopefully).
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freetoken Fri, Aug 10, 2012 3:45:25am |
Rautavaara's "Canticum Mariae virginis" :
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AK-47% Fri, Aug 10, 2012 3:59:40am |
Dylan's "Absolutima Maria Dulcissima"
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Targetpractice Fri, Aug 10, 2012 4:20:19am |
There is nothing quite as sweet as the taste of schadenfreude:
Judge: Tea Party Nation founder must pay $748k Las Vegas hotel bill
A judge has ordered Tea Party Nation founder Judson Phillips to pay a six-figure hotel bill for a large number of rooms he booked for a tea party rally, which he later cancelled when the event failed to draw enough attendees.
The Venetian Las Vegas Casino Resort alleged that Phillips had reserved 1,637 rooms for the July 2010 event, and then cancelled the reservations just a few weeks before the scheduled date. He did not pay for the rooms.
In a court order last month, which The Tennessean reported Thursday, a judge ruled that Phillips owed the resort $748,000, including the $554,000 hotel bill and $194,300 in accrued interest.
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Sheila Broflovski Fri, Aug 10, 2012 4:22:29am |
I could only get about 1/3 of the way into this video before being overwhelmed by Teh Crazie.
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AK-47% Fri, Aug 10, 2012 4:36:57am |
re: #391 Targetpractice
There is nothing quite as sweet as the taste of schadenfreude:
Judge: Tea Party Nation founder must pay $748k Las Vegas hotel bill
But Sheldon Adelson owns the place? Could he not just forgive the bill or ask Mitt to cover it with some of the millions he has donated to him?
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Sheila Broflovski Fri, Aug 10, 2012 4:39:40am |
Does anyone know if leftists are now trying to inundate conservatives with spam to get you to trigger #twittergulag for excessive blocking?— Snarky Basterd (@Snarky_Basterd) August 10, 2012
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Targetpractice Fri, Aug 10, 2012 4:49:52am |
No, no, bad Mitt, HEEL!
How The Right Robbed Romney Of His Running Room
Mitt Romney wants to boast about his signature policy achievement — universal health care in Massachusetts — but the right won’t let him.
It’s no secret that Romney has an uneasy alliance with the conservative base. But the movement’s reaction when he nodded at Romneycare wasn’t an isolated freakout about the one issue they disagree on. It was a warning to Romney that he veers from orthodoxy at his peril.
When it became clear that Romney would be the GOP nominee, the right, suspicious of his moderate past, undertook an effort to rob him of his governing agency. That’s included constraining his options on everything from tax policy to his vice presidential pick. The clamor when he claimed credit for Romneycare exemplifies what happens when he bucks those constraints.
*snip*
Those are the marching orders, and thus far they’ve controlled Romney’s campaign. Romney’s health care heresy was the biggest breach, and the right’s reaction was swift and demeaning — one compared it, in a widely approved tweet, to housebreaking a dog.
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AK-47% Fri, Aug 10, 2012 4:55:32am |
re: #395 Targetpractice
And if mitt does get in, the Right, especially the socons, will keep him on a very short leash.
And if his presidential style is at all like his campaign style, he will let them get away with most anything they want and just nod, smile and laugh nervously when questioned on it...
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Shropshire_Slasher Fri, Aug 10, 2012 5:23:17am |
Norwegian tourist falls asleep on airport baggage belt
[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]
I worked for a guy that got so drunk and passed out his friends put him in an Air National Guard C-130 Hercules transport plane to Greenland. Now that was a funny "I'm going to be late" call.
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Sheila Broflovski Fri, Aug 10, 2012 5:27:43am |
re: #397 Tommy's cone of shame
Norwegian tourist falls asleep on airport baggage belt
[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]
I worked for a guy that got so drunk and passed out his friends put him in an Air National Guard C-130 Hercules transport plane to Greenland. Now that was a funny "I'm going to be late" call.
Two guys worked as baggage handlers at Moscow's Sheremetevyo airport. Every night they would sneak into the duty free store and get drunk on premium vodka.
Eventually the duty free store noticed missing inventory so they changed the locks. The two baggage handlers couldn't break in, but they needed something! The supply to the jet fuel was unlocked, so they tried that. It was pretty good! They got drunk and stumbled home.
The next morning, one of the baggage handlers called his friend. "Are you feeling the effects of the jet fuel we consumed last night?"
"Well I have a horsekick of a hangover."
"So do I, but have you farted?"
"I don't think so."
"Well I just did, and now I'm in Vancouver."
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Sheila Broflovski Fri, Aug 10, 2012 5:35:27am |
Traffic was really backed up yesterday afternoon on the drive home.
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iossarian Fri, Aug 10, 2012 6:19:26am |
re: #399 Learned Mother of Zion
"It seems to me that what we're lacking is the ability to resolve conflicts without shooting and this particular incident, from what I'm being told, was something that, I believe, could have been handled without shots being fired at people," said Blackmon.
Jeez. We live in a country where you have to make a distinction between arguments that can and can't be handled without whipping our your AK-47 and killing a couple of people.
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AK-47% Fri, Aug 10, 2012 6:21:06am |
re: #400 iossarian
Jeez. We live in a country where you have to make a distinction between arguments that can and can't be handled without whipping our your AK-47 and killing a couple of people.
In some places, it's called "Standing Your Ground"...
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iossarian Fri, Aug 10, 2012 6:26:19am |
Ouch.
Athlete runs 46s 400m on broken leg
"As soon as I took the first step past the 200m mark I felt it break. I heard it. I even put out a little war cry but the crowd was so loud you couldn't hear it. I wanted to just lie down. It felt like somebody literally just snapped my leg in half."
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Talking Point Detective Fri, Aug 10, 2012 6:40:00am |
Stealing this from DailyKos. A great koan:
If Romney pledged to repeal RomneyCare too would conservatives pretend to like him more?
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Lidane Fri, Aug 10, 2012 6:46:46am |
Jon Stewart Delights In Team Mitt’s Flailing ‘Romneycare’ Defense
In these dog days of summer, the campaigns are dropping the puns and unleashing the brutal attack ads. Priorities USA, the Super PAC supporting President Obama, is out with a new spot that more-or-less suggests Mitt Romney is responsible for the death of a laid-off steelworker’s wife. But Democratic officials are distancing themselves from the ad and denying its grim premise.
“Stop your bullshit, just say it,” Jon Stewart said Thursday. “Own it.”
Romney spokeswoman Andrea Saul defended the campaign from the ad, saying, blasphemously, that if the steelworker and his wife lived in Massachusetts, they would have had healthcare under Romney’s law there.
“Oh, you done fucked up now,” Stewart said. “No, no, no, no, no. Your response to this full-force punch is, ‘Well, if you want a president who believes the government should provide everyone with health care, you should vote for the guy who designed that plan, Mitt Romney?’”
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lawhawk Fri, Aug 10, 2012 6:47:45am |
re: #20 engineer cat
Gallifreyan. That's why they have so much trouble trying to pin him down. /
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GunstarGreen Fri, Aug 10, 2012 6:51:27am |
re: #6 Kragar
Khorne will definitely have a place in my administration, but we're still vetting several gods, both Chaos and Elder, as well as several Great Old Ones to see who will join the ticket as the VP pick.
Candidate Kragar, do you believe that every American has a right to at least some Blood for the Blood God, and a few Skulls for the Skull Throne? Or do believe that we should all pick ourselves up by our bootstraps and collect all of it ourselves, without any Government handouts?
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Interesting Times Fri, Aug 10, 2012 7:04:16am |
Like goldy, silvery, or bronzy but made of iron:
Inexplicably displayed in the Romney HQ conference room instagr.am/p/OJmrHRK8Mr/— Garrett Haake (@GarrettNBCNews) August 10, 2012
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darthstar Fri, Aug 10, 2012 7:05:35am |
This is a great pic for a couple of reasons...first, it shows a great corny pose by one of the Jamaicans, and second, notice who all of the photographers in the well are pointing their cameras at...who is it? Look at the photo credit.
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The Ghost of a Flea Fri, Aug 10, 2012 7:07:27am |
Religious right pretends that Obama has a ‘God-talk’ problem
So here’s a common urban legend on the religious right, stated here by Phyllis Schlafly:
Every time [President Obama] recites the Declaration of Independence, he omits the word “Creator.” Now we all know what’s in the Declaration and it’s very strange, you can’t blame it on a slip of the tongue or blame it on the teleprompter because he does it all the time.
It’s terrible that the president keeps misquoting the Declaration. And it’s especially terrible that the word he keeps leaving out — “Creator” — is a reference to God.
President Obama, apparently, has a God-talk problem.
Except that he doesn’t. Phyllis Schlafly is lying.
...
Now, when those accusations start to pile up, some pundits will call on the president to start quoting this passage and saying “endowed by their Creator” even more. They urge him to just start saying it a ridiculous number of times until Schlafly and the religious right can no longer plausibly claim that he’s never said it.
It’s a charmingly optimistic response: “Come on, we’ll show ‘em the truth!”
The problem with that advice is twofold: 1) It presumes, inaccurately, that these people care about the truth — that their complaint is being made in good faith and is not an explicit lie told for explicitly political reasons; and 2) Schlafly et. al. will claim that Obama has only just now begun saying this due solely to their attacks, and only because they called him out on it. And thus they’ll spin it around and begin attacking him every time he says “endowed by their Creator.”
That’s frustrating, but that’s how it works when you’re dealing with bad-faith actors who half-justify their lying by reassuring themselves that lying for Jesus is a Good Thing if it helps to defeat the evil baby-killing liberals. So they’ll keep attacking Obama for never saying “Creator” until that lie becomes to obvious to continue, at which point they’ll start attacking him for only saying it because they forced him to and for not really believing it or some such. But they won’t stop attacking him, that’s just who they are and what they do.
And of course these folks don’t just spread lies about the president. They spread such lies about everyone they perceive to be evil liberals — including any Christians who fail any of their ever-multiplying culture-war litmus tests. They say that such people are not really Christians — that they hate Jesus and disrespect the Bible.
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iossarian Fri, Aug 10, 2012 7:08:41am |
re: #408 darthstar
This is a great pic for a couple of reasons...first, it shows a great corny pose by one of the Jamaicans, and second, notice who all of the photographers in the well are pointing their cameras at...who is it? Look at the photo credit.
If you could harness the power of Mr. U. Bolt's ego right now, you could solve global warming overnight.
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AK-47% Fri, Aug 10, 2012 7:09:33am |
re: #409 The Ghost of a Flea
Religious right pretends that Obama has a ‘God-talk’ problem
"And of course these folks don’t just spread lies about the president. They spread such lies about everyone they perceive to be evil liberals — including any Christians who fail any of their ever-multiplying culture-war litmus tests."
Because there are Higher Truths. These lie beyond the realm of mere facts. And are exempt from fact-checking if they serve the purpose of promoting the True Faith
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Sheila Broflovski Fri, Aug 10, 2012 7:10:19am |
Another doofus who does not know the meaning of the word "literally"
These people are literally insane: realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/08/... (h/t @hale_razor)— Kevin Eder (@keder) August 10, 2012
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darthstar Fri, Aug 10, 2012 7:14:20am |
Mitt visits with a "farmer"...but being Romney, he only visits with farmers he can identify with on a personal basis...this one has a spaceship home, 54 actual "farms"(54! He's big agriculture!!!) and of course a subterranean garage with built-in car wash...you know, a regular guy.
Romney Visits Iowa 'Farmer' Who Is Also A Millionaire Real Estate Mogul With A Spaceship House And Personal Car Wash pulse.me/s/c69k9— B.Maurice Washington (@bmwash374) August 10, 2012
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darthstar Fri, Aug 10, 2012 7:15:57am |
How Papa John's stock has fared in the burdensome Obama yearsyfrog.com/oevwmkp— Sam Stein (@samsteinhp) August 10, 2012
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darthstar Fri, Aug 10, 2012 7:17:22am |
re: #414 darthstar
Image didn't display...52 week graph shows it going from low of 26 to high of 56.
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iossarian Fri, Aug 10, 2012 7:22:56am |
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GunstarGreen Fri, Aug 10, 2012 7:28:42am |
re: #414 darthstar
[Embedded content]
Part of the ongoing disconnect between reality and narrative. Profits are at record highs in a number of sectors, yet despite all this extra money there are no jobs. The right says it is because of some nebulous and vague "uncertainty", but anyone who actually works at a real job (No, collecting CEO pay while not even doing anything at that company does not count as a real job, Mitt) knows the truth: Companies figured out that they can push their workers to do the job of two, three, or four workers by hanging their jobs over their head like a hangman's noose, and are simply pocketing the extra profit for fat bonus checks for the executives.
If you look at a graph of Real Compensation (that is, wages and other compensation adjusted for inflation), as our nation's productivity has risen over the past 30 years, worker-level compensation has remained almost totally stagnant, while executive-level compensation has skyrocketed on a path that could accurately, mathematically be called exponential.
The problem with trickle-down economics is that the money stops trickling down once it hits the first trough (executives). The only thing that trickles down after that is piss and shit.
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darthstar Fri, Aug 10, 2012 7:29:54am |
No wonder NASA had to send Curiosity to Mars...Opportunity's been up there so long it's gotten bored and is doing the a Martian lawn job on the landscape like some drunken teenager in a pick-up (wait...that would have been me)...
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Fri, Aug 10, 2012 7:30:22am |
A belated good morning to the Lizard Community.
Pouring rain in Philadelphia right now. Been gray and hazy all morning, so the rainfall was not unexpected.
So time to drink coffee and eat hazelnuts while waiting for a couple of managers to finish gabbing before work tasks start back up.
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darthstar Fri, Aug 10, 2012 7:31:24am |
re: #419 darthstar
No wonder NASA had to send Curiosity to Mars...Opportunity's been up there so long it's gotten bored and is doing the a Martian lawn job on the landscape like some drunken teenager in a pick-up (wait...that would have been me)...
The other photos at this site are worth a look too...
[Link: myscienceacademy.org...]
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makeitstop Fri, Aug 10, 2012 7:33:06am |
Morning, Lizards.
So, my fundie wingnut sister (whom I've written about here before) waded into a conversation about Mitt's tax returns on Facebook and stated that Obama needs to release his college transcripts, passports and birth certificate. Predictably, my friends piled on with the facts.
It really makes me kind of sad to see her get knocked around on FB, but on the other hand I sincerely wish I could slap some sense into her. She really has swallowed every bit of bullshit anti-Obama rhetoric and truly believes it all.
That cult masquerading as a church has done a total number on her. It enrages and saddens me, because I know she's not stupid.
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Obdicut Fri, Aug 10, 2012 7:37:45am |
re: #422 makeitstop
One of my smartest friends is doing some motivational speakers cult thingy, kind of a blend of Scientology and Tony Robbins. I can't have a fucking conversation with her without her trying to get me to buy some classes. Intelligent isn't a good protection against bullshit.
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Aug 10, 2012 7:40:16am |
re: #422 makeitstop
I really feel for you. My parents are the same way. They raised me to think for myself and to always question things yet they swallow everything FOX says without ever questioning or looking for other information. It's one reason we avoid talking politics because, if we did, it would end up in an argument. Every cable box in their house is programmed to go to FOX news when it's turned on and every radio station is set for the station that carries Rush Limbaugh.
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darthstar Fri, Aug 10, 2012 7:41:43am |
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Fri, Aug 10, 2012 7:42:00am |
re: #418 GunstarGreen
Part of the ongoing disconnect between reality and narrative. Profits are at record highs in a number of sectors, yet despite all this extra money there are no jobs. The right says it is because of some nebulous and vague "uncertainty", but anyone who actually works at a real job (No, collecting CEO pay while not even doing anything at that company does not count as a real job, Mitt) knows the truth: Companies figured out that they can push their workers to do the job of two, three, or four workers by hanging their jobs over their head like a hangman's noose, and are simply pocketing the extra profit for fat bonus checks for the executives.
If you look at a graph of Real Compensation (that is, wages and other compensation adjusted for inflation), as our nation's productivity has risen over the past 30 years, worker-level compensation has remained almost totally stagnant, while executive-level compensation has skyrocketed on a path that could accurately, mathematically be called exponential.
The problem with trickle-down economics is that the money stops trickling down once it hits the first trough (executives). The only thing that trickles down after that is piss and shit.
Again with the class warfare. What you fail to realize is that if the confiscatory tax burden of our nation's job creators was eased back to Regan-era levels, hiring would begin again and the average American worker would be able to find that second or third job and who knows, maybe even put a little something towards that new pair of glasses they've been needing for a while.
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iossarian Fri, Aug 10, 2012 7:42:24am |
re: #423 Obdicut
One of my smartest friends is doing some motivational speakers cult thingy, kind of a blend of Scientology and Tony Robbins. I can't have a fucking conversation with her without her trying to get me to buy some classes. Intelligent isn't a good protection against bullshit.
A distant-ish acquaintance of mine seems to be slipping into some kind of mental disease (maybe schizophrenia but I'm hardly an expert and I only have vague details). Anyway, for a few years this person has been sending progressively more fringe-y "scientific breakthrough" updates via email, and was also trying to get people to chip in and send her to a Ted conference.
I think the whole "cult of knowledge" thing has a big appeal to smart people who begin to slip off the rails.
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Obdicut Fri, Aug 10, 2012 7:42:31am |
Huh. Portman, the supposedly safe and sensible pick for VP, used to be a registered lobbyist for self-styled Voodoo dictator Baby Doc Duvalier and three Cuban cigar manufacturers.
Is that really non-controversial? Being a lobbyist for a dictator? A dictator who tortured and killed thousands?
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darthstar Fri, Aug 10, 2012 7:43:37am |
re: #423 Obdicut
One of my smartest friends is doing some motivational speakers cult thingy, kind of a blend of Scientology and Tony Robbins. I can't have a fucking conversation with her without her trying to get me to buy some classes. Intelligent isn't a good protection against bullshit.
It could be worse...she could be selling Amway.
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iossarian Fri, Aug 10, 2012 7:45:30am |
re: #428 Obdicut
Huh. Portman, the supposedly safe and sensible pick for VP, used to be a registered lobbyist for self-styled Voodoo dictator Baby Doc Duvalier and three Cuban cigar manufacturers.
Is that really non-controversial? Being a lobbyist for a dictator? A dictator who tortured and killed thousands?
Pinochet always had a bunch of friends on the right. Classical Liberals don't care who you torture and kill as long as they aren't rich and white.
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The Ghost of a Flea Fri, Aug 10, 2012 7:48:17am |
re: #430 iossarian
Pinochet always had a bunch of friends on the right. Classical Liberals don't care who you torture and kill as long as they aren't rich and white.
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Pinochet Chilean Miracle wgah'nagl fhtagn
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Obdicut Fri, Aug 10, 2012 7:48:50am |
re: #430 iossarian
Was there some article posted on Classical Liberalism awhile ago or something? Something really badly written? I've noticed a lot of people suddenly declaring that they're classical liberals, without actually knowing jack shit about what it means.
Not just here, but elsewhere, too.
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iossarian Fri, Aug 10, 2012 7:49:27am |
re: #431 The Ghost of a Flea
Can't make an omelette without breaking a few (leftist) eggheads.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Fri, Aug 10, 2012 7:50:34am |
re: #423 Obdicut
Intelligent isn't a good protection against bullshit.
I'm not a tremendous fan of Michael Shermer, but in his book "Why People Believe Weird Things" he has a really good chapter on that very topic. The short, oversimplified version of his idea is that all people are very much prone to confirmation bias, and particularly smart people are naturally very good at defending beliefs that they arrived at for non-smart reasons.
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darthstar Fri, Aug 10, 2012 7:51:04am |
I'm a situational radical progressive liberal with 1/4 Queensland Heeler.
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makeitstop Fri, Aug 10, 2012 7:51:58am |
re: #429 darthstar
It could be worse...she could be selling Amway.
You know, my aforementioned sister tried selling Amway a few years ago.
Maybe she's just attracted to cultish organizations. Her 'church' really sank the hooks in, though. She's told every one of her siblings that they're all going to hell at this point. I'm especially hopeless, being the heathen musician who smokes a little weed and hangs out in bars.
The only one of my siblings who got it worse than me was my poor Catholic sister.
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Obdicut Fri, Aug 10, 2012 7:52:47am |
re: #435 darthstar
I'm a situational radical progressive liberal with 1/4 Queensland Heeler.
I'm part of the AhForgetIt Tendency.
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Sheila Broflovski Fri, Aug 10, 2012 7:56:45am |
re: #427 iossarian
A distant-ish acquaintance of mine seems to be slipping into some kind of mental disease (maybe schizophrenia but I'm hardly an expert and I only have vague details). Anyway, for a few years this person has been sending progressively more fringe-y "scientific breakthrough" updates via email, and was also trying to get people to chip in and send her to a Ted conference.
I think the whole "cult of knowledge" thing has a big appeal to smart people who begin to slip off the rails.
I see the sidebar SCAM ads on all the major news sites (when I'm not using FireFox) are getting more and more batshit insane, while all using the exact same ad copy. "Elite Professionals Hate Mom/Guy in [geographical area harvested from IP] Discovers Ridiculously Easy/Weird/Cheap Trick to Lose Weight/Smooth Wrinkles/Make Free Energy At Home/Get Rich Without Working"
These ads are EVERYWHERE, they must be making money but what kind of idiot clicks on them? ("It must be true because Fox/MSNBC/HuffingtonPost would NEVER run a scam!")
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Aug 10, 2012 7:57:53am |
re: #421 darthstar
The other photos at this site are worth a look too...
[Link: myscienceacademy.org...]
Fabulous!
Thanks for starting my day off in a good mood.
:)
Good morning lizards!
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GunstarGreen Fri, Aug 10, 2012 7:58:10am |
re: #436 makeitstop
You know, my aforementioned sister tried selling Amway a few years ago.
Maybe she's just attracted to cultish organizations. Her 'church' really sank the hooks in, though. She's told every one of her siblings that they're all going to hell at this point. I'm especially hopeless, being the heathen musician who smokes a little weed and hangs out in bars.
The only one of my siblings who got it worse than me was my poor Catholic sister.
Ask her why she doesn't believe in Odin (or really, insert any other deity that you may know more about. Bonus points for having a bible-like book describing the religion that you can point to).
Not even joking, seriously ask her the question, and don't take waffling or "because the bible said so" for an answer. Really make her think about it and come up with a reason. Then ask why that reasoning cannot also be applied to her god.
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makeitstop Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:00:11am |
re: #438 Learned Mother of Zion
I see the sidebar ads on all the major news sites (when I'm not using FireFox) are getting more and more batshit insane, while all using the exact same ad copy. "Elite Professionals Hate Mom/Guy in [geographical area harvested from IP] Discovers Ridiculously Easy/Weird/Cheap Trick to Lose Weight/Smooth Wrinkles/Make Free Energy At Home/Get Rich Without Working"
These ads are EVERYWHERE, they must be making money but what kind of idiot clicks on them? ("It must be true because Fox/MSNBC/HuffingtonPost would run a scam!")
I'm still getting ads for electric fireplace inserts from a search I did two months ago! And guitar ads, lots and lots of guitar ads...
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Sheila Broflovski Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:03:29am |
re: #441 makeitstop
I'm still getting ads for electric fireplace inserts from a search I did two months ago! And guitar ads, lots and lots of guitar ads...
I would much, much rather see ads for stuff that I might, you know, actually BUY than these "weird trick" scams.
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GunstarGreen Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:03:37am |
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Sheila Broflovski Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:04:38am |
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:06:55am |
re: #435 darthstar
I'm a situational radical progressive liberal with 1/4 Queensland Heeler.
In this household, we're Cynisacreligious Patrio-Psychotic Anarcho-Materialist Sarcatastrophist Anti-Dyssentaryist Neo-Post-Proto-Countermodernist Dysto-Utopian Sardonicologist Ridiculographers.
'This household' consisting of me and my dog, of course. He's slightly more observant than I am.
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Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:07:23am |
re: #438 Learned Mother of Zion
I see the sidebar SCAM ads on all the major news sites (when I'm not using FireFox) are getting more and more batshit insane, while all using the exact same ad copy. "Elite Professionals Hate Mom/Guy in [geographical area harvested from IP] Discovers Ridiculously Easy/Weird/Cheap Trick to Lose Weight/Smooth Wrinkles/Make Free Energy At Home/Get Rich Without Working"
These ads are EVERYWHERE, they must be making money but what kind of idiot clicks on them? ("It must be true because Fox/MSNBC/HuffingtonPost would NEVER run a scam!")
Whatever you do don't use google to look for garbage disposals or replacement windows, those ads NEVER go away, I have been seeing the same ads for well over a year now!
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lawhawk Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:07:56am |
Drought across US pushing into the extreme and exceptional. Grain/corn prices are rising, the Mississippi River is approaching low levels that is already affecting traffic on the river (a major transit corridor for grain, produce, and goods), and there's no sign of a letup.
Oh, and the frackers need water for their natural gas/oil production. It's stressing aquifers and water supplies across the country.
The NYC metro area is facing a rain deficit of about 7 inches since the beginning of the year. And last year was wetter than normal only because of the double whammy of Hurricane Irene and TS Lee, which dumped months worth of rain on the region in the span of a few days causing widespread flooding and massive amounts of damage. If not for those two storms, the region would also be facing drought conditions joining a significant portion of the country.
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Sheila Broflovski Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:09:27am |
It may sound like a very strange thing to say, especially to someone who is looking desperately for a job, but I keep getting spammed and phone-bombed with job descriptions from recruiters.
The spam and voice mails keep coming even though I updated my Dice and Monster profiles to "not active."
There is a big demand for .NET skills, this is the result of companies deciding to update their old classic ASP code to the newer technology.
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Obdicut Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:09:42am |
re: #438 Learned Mother of Zion
The serious answer is that this is like the Nigerian spam emails. These ads are purposefully annoying and obvious scams, because it means that while a small percentage of people will respond to them, that percentage will be easily-fooled rubes. And this being the US, there's lots of easily-fooled rubes with lots of money to blow out their asses on stupid shit.
It feeds into the ideas that a lot of less-intelligent or less-well-socialized people have that the whole system is a scam, that the experts don't really know shit. It's similar to the way that the GOP convinces people that global warming is a scam, but aimed at an even lower-information portion of the population on purpose.
They're not designed to get you to click on them, but to get some totally gullible fool with resentment issues to click on them.
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Sheila Broflovski Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:10:49am |
re: #446 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You
Whatever you do don't use google to look for garbage disposals or replacement windows, those ads NEVER go away, I have been seeing the same ads for well over a year now!
I keep getting this one ad that is stuck to my Yahoo email, for some facelift procedure (cosmetic surgery, not the "wrinkle trick"). It's so FREAKIN ANNOYING.
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Sheila Broflovski Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:14:15am |
re: #449 Obdicut
The serious answer is that this is like the Nigerian spam emails. These ads are purposefully annoying and obvious scams, because it means that while a small percentage of people will respond to them, that percentage will be easily-fooled rubes. And this being the US, there's lots of easily-fooled rubes with lots of money to blow out their asses on stupid shit.
It feeds into the ideas that a lot of less-intelligent or less-well-socialized people have that the whole system is a scam, that the experts don't really know shit. It's similar to the way that the GOP convinces people that global warming is a scam, but aimed at an even lower-information portion of the population on purpose.
They're not designed to get you to click on them, but to get some totally gullible fool with resentment issues to click on them.
A major selling point of these stupid ads is HATE! "Dermatologists hate her!" "Doctors hate her!"
Even some legitimate products, like the Pimsleur course, is using this HATE gimmick. ("Language Professors Hate Him!") Uh, no, they totally dont, this guy (who died like 40 years ago) was one of the most respected instructors of foreign languages in the profession. And how can "language professors" be a privileged elite class? Does that include the 4th-grade Spanish teacher who makes about $36,000 a year?
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GunstarGreen Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:17:21am |
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:17:42am |
This is why Christie is popular in NJ. He'll speak his mind and isn't afraid to take flak for it.
Christie calls anti-Muslim conservatives "bigots"
The following video hasn't gotten any attention in the mainstream press, but it has lit a fire on right-wing web sites.
The shaky, grainy 16-minute speech was shot by an attendee during an Iftar dinner - the evening meal during Ramadan - at the governor's mansion two weeks ago.
"In many publications around this country I'm now called an Islamist," Christie told the crowd of New Jersey Muslims. "Ya know, listen, I've been called worse things -- usually on the boardwalk on Seaside Heights. Y'all saw my reaction to that."
It is an extraordinary video, in part because you don't often hear Republicans calling out elements of their own party for being "bigots" against Muslims. The issue of Islamic extremism is wrought with potential political pitfalls, and yet here is a guy on the short-list for GOP vice-presidential nominees who is directly confronting the topic in the backyard of his own house.
"I'll tell you that there is a gaze of intolerance that is going around our country that is disturbing to me," Christie said. "This is something that as a political leader you can think you understand as an objective observer, but you don't really understand until you become part of the story."
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Eventual Carrion Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:17:55am |
re: #419 darthstar
No wonder NASA had to send Curiosity to Mars...Opportunity's been up there so long it's gotten bored and is doing the a Martian lawn job on the landscape like some drunken teenager in a pick-up (wait...that would have been me)...
Then one of Curiosity's cameras captures Spirit coming up from behind a rise, dressed like a stranded islander. Armed with a sharp shard of rock. Spirit has gone rogue since we lost contact with it. It is trying to extract revenge from those that sent it away from earth oh so many years ago. The battle will be epic.
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Varek Raith Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:19:17am |
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Lidane Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:19:53am |
re: #424 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance
Every cable box in their house is programmed to go to FOX news when it's turned on and every radio station is set for the station that carries Rush Limbaugh.
That's exactly how some of my aunts and uncles have their setups. It's aggravating especially during the holidays. Last Christmas I had the unpleasant surprise of finding out one of my uncles is a birther, and all the constant parroting of Faux News bullshit makes conversations with my family strained.
I don't bother talking politics with them anymore. They know where I stand by now and I just change the subject or go into full bobblehead mode. It's not worth the family drama to point out that Barack Obama really isn't a Kenyan Muslim Usurper or anything, or that Obamacare = Romneycare.
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lawhawk Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:20:21am |
re: #454 RayFerd
Two robots enter. One leaves. Marsdome.
Or is that Skynet Deathmatch? Good fight/Good night!
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Killgore Trout Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:21:12am |
AWOL soldier gets life term for Fort Hood plot
An AWOL soldier convicted of collecting bomb-making materials for what he told authorities would be a "massive attack" on a Texas restaurant full of Fort Hood troops was sentenced Friday to life in prison.
Army Pfc. Naser Jason Abdo, a Muslim, was planning a religious mission to win "justice" for the people of Iraq and Afghanistan, according to a recorded jail conservation with his mother played for jurors at trial.
....
In a recorded police interview, Abdo said he wanted to carry out the attack "because I don't appreciate what my unit did in Afghanistan." His plan, according to what he told authorities, was to place a bomb in a busy restaurant filled with soldiers, wait outside and shoot anyone who survived — and become a martyr after police killed him.
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Lidane Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:21:52am |
re: #453 NJDhockeyfan
This is why Christie is popular in NJ. He'll speak his mind and isn't afraid to take flak for it.
It's also why Christie is unpopular with the wingnuts. They hate having their anti-Muslim bigotry called out for what it is.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:23:28am |
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Varek Raith Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:25:39am |
re: #460 NJDhockeyfan
Ha ha ha!
Cat escapes from dog with surprise leap onto surfboard (VIDEO)
[Embedded content]
WTFHAX.
-Dog
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Eventual Carrion Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:26:27am |
re: #436 makeitstop
You know, my aforementioned sister tried selling Amway a few years ago.
Maybe she's just attracted to cultish organizations. Her 'church' really sank the hooks in, though. She's told every one of her siblings that they're all going to hell at this point. I'm especially hopeless, being the heathen musician who smokes a little weed and hangs out in bars.
The only one of my siblings who got it worse than me was my poor Catholic sister.
Damn dude, your sister sounds like my little sister. Gone all wingnutty, religious. We can't even try to talk politics. She doesn't email me much anymore because I told her years ago to quit sending me propaganda lies from the freaks on the right (she took offense because she had become a freak on the right).
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Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:29:58am |
Synchronized swimming has to be the strangest event at the Olympics, who ever came up with this stuff? Not that I am complaining about all the long, long, toned, sexy, healthy...uhh (excuse me), legs and skimpy swimsuits on display mind you. Just saying it seems rather strange to be an Olympic "sport." Russia won gold by being perfectly synchronized automatons (no surprise), China got silver by showing some highly stylized artistry, and Spain won bronze by simply busting their butts to do as well as they could.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:30:26am |
Netanyahu and Barak said to be pushing for an Iran strike this fall
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak are both pushing for an Israeli strike on Iran this fall, Yedioth Ahronoth reported Friday.
Fearing that time is running out before the Iranian nuclear program reaches a point of no return in its drive to weaponize, the two may be looking to hit Iran before the US presidential elections in November, a move which could anger the Obama administration, the newspaper’s senior commentators Shimon Shiffer and Nahum Barnea wrote.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:32:10am |
re: #463 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You
Synchronized swimming has to be the strangest event at the Olympics, who ever came up with this stuff? Not that I am complaining about all the long, long, toned, sexy, healthy...uhh (excuse me), legs and skimpy swimsuits on display mind you. Just saying it seems rather strange to be an Olympic "sport." Russia won gold by being perfectly synchronized automatons (no surprise), China got silver by showing some highly stylized artistry, and Spain won bronze by simply busting their butts to do as well as they could.
There was talk about adding ballroom dancing as a sport to the Olympics a few years ago. Why don't they add football instead?
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erik_t Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:32:33am |
re: #432 Obdicut
Was there some article posted on Classical Liberalism awhile ago or something? Something really badly written? I've noticed a lot of people suddenly declaring that they're classical liberals, without actually knowing jack shit about what it means.
Not just here, but elsewhere, too.
Throw the phrases Trout, classical liberal and Gitmo in a blender. You'll end up with a close approximation of the origin. It was only a week or two ago.
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Obdicut Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:33:23am |
re: #466 erik_t
Nah, I mean I've seen it elsewhere on the web recently too. I don't think it started out here.
It's always weird watching a new meme float around.
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makeitstop Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:33:31am |
re: #462 RayFerd
Damn dude, your sister sounds like my little sister. Gone all wingnutty, religious. We can't even try to talk politics. She doesn't email me much anymore because I told her years ago to quit sending me propaganda lies from the freaks on the right (she took offense because she had become a freak on the right).
Oh, I've had that conversation, too. I kept getting those 'Re: Re: Re: Re:' emails on everything from Soshulism, the 'refusing to cover his heart during the National Anthem' pic, the 'voodoo doctor' pic, all of it.
I finally hit 'reply to all' and let a rant fly to half of my cousins and who knows who else, telling them in no uncertain terms that they were dumb bigots who have forgotten how to think for themselves and they should proceed to leave me the fuck alone.
I no longer get a warm welcome from a lot of relatives at family functions, but I've written them all off at this point. I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but my God. These people will buy anything that the racist right will churn out. I have no time for them any more, much as I love most of them.
And they think I'm the crazy one. Go figure.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:34:16am |
re: #464 NJDhockeyfan
Netanyahu and Barak said to be pushing for an Iran strike this fall
It's possible but we've been 6 months away from the reported point of no return for at least five years. Even if it's true I still think it's possible that Obama and the Israelis will let Iran go nuclear and hope for the best. I wouldn't venture a guess either way.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:35:34am |
re: #448 Learned Mother of Zion
It may sound like a very strange thing to say, especially to someone who is looking desperately for a job, but I keep getting spammed and phone-bombed with job descriptions from recruiters.
The spam and voice mails keep coming even though I updated my Dice and Monster profiles to "not active."
There is a big demand for .NET skills, this is the result of companies deciding to update their old classic ASP code to the newer technology.
I hear the GOP is hiring due to an immediate need to update the Romneybot Suite for the post-convention campaigning requirements.
//
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Varek Raith Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:35:47am |
re: #467 Obdicut
Nah, I mean I've seen it elsewhere on the web recently too. I don't think it started out here.
It's always weird watching a new meme float around.
It's all fun and games until someone takes an arrow in the knee.
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:37:03am |
re: #460 NJDhockeyfan
that is so full of Win. Another reason I prefer cats to dogs.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:37:43am |
re: #466 erik_t
Throw the phrases Trout, classical liberal and Gitmo in a blender. You'll end up with a close approximation of the origin. It was only a week or two ago.
People are still frightened, outraged and confused by the basic political philosophy our country is founded on? Go figure.
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Obdicut Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:38:04am |
re: #473 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance
that is so full of Win. Another reason I prefer cats to dogs.
Yes but:
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:39:01am |
re: #475 Obdicut
yeah I've seen him and I do really want either a bulldog or an American Bully.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:39:14am |
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danarchy Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:39:51am |
re: #446 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You
Whatever you do don't use google to look for garbage disposals or replacement windows, those ads NEVER go away, I have been seeing the same ads for well over a year now!
I bought a house about a year ago and was doing lots of searches at the time for furniture and other home stuff. All my banner adds are still related to those searches.
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GunstarGreen Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:39:58am |
re: #469 Killgore Trout
It's possible but we've been 6 months away from the reported point of no return for at least five years. Even if it's true I still think it's possible that Obama and the Israelis will let Iran go nuclear and hope for the best. I wouldn't venture a guess either way.
It's always "just six months away" because they keep trying to use the 'ticking time bomb scenario' to try and force the issue.
Whether or not Iran developing nuclear power which can lead to weaponization is something to be pre-emptively acted upon is of course a matter of one's personal politics, but I look at it this way: If someone that lived within shooting range of you had a giant stockpile of guns and was eyeing you funny, would you consider it odd or inappropriate to start looking into acquiring something to defend yourself with? And if they heard about your 'looking into' and started loading and priming their guns, how would that change your plans?
When the nation with one of the largest nuclear weapon stockpiles on the planet, and the only nation to have ever actually used those weapons in war, starts to act hostile towards another nation, you'd have to be pretty silly to think that they're off-kilter for coming up with some answer to that. I don't think Iran's intentions are noble or good, but this is the sort of problem you get into when you build up a stockpile of weapons that can literally destroy the entire planet.
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Obdicut Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:40:07am |
re: #476 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance
yeah I've seen him and I do really want either a bulldog or an American Bully.
Get a rescue dog, if you're going to get a purebreed.
[Link: americanbulldogrescue.org...]
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makeitstop Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:40:10am |
I heard this on the radio last night, and it's so bizarre I had to share.
'Fresh Prince' sitcom is a big hit with Gitmo detainees
The only story weirder on NY news radio last night was the one about the Big Vibrator Giveaway - which they ended up doing in - wait for it - the meat packing district.
I've never heard so many double entendres on the news in my life.
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Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:40:12am |
re: #460 NJDhockeyfan
Ha ha ha!
Cat escapes from dog with surprise leap onto surfboard (VIDEO)
[Embedded content]
I just want to know how long it took to teach the cat to ride across the pool on the surfboard. That this was a staged "event" is obvious, still they deserve props for training and staging. ;)
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:40:49am |
re: #471 Varek Raith
It's all fun and games until someone takes an arrow in the knee.
Hey, I'm perfectly happy slowing the goblins down by having my marksdwarves put a crossbow bolt through their lower legs. Makes it easier for the battleaxe and warhammer armed melee squads to catch them...
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:41:12am |
re: #475 Obdicut
not because this makes cats look intelligent, but because it is friday and I am going on vacation for a week and am in a good mood.
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Obdicut Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:41:49am |
re: #483 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste
There's few problems that twenty obsidian-sword weapon traps in a row can't solve.
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lawhawk Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:41:58am |
re: #469 Killgore Trout
I'm not buying that report that Netenyahu and Barak are pushing for an overt strike against Iran. The IDF knows its capabilities and what it can and can't do or get away with. Airstrikes against Iran would overextend the IAF and use too many assets that could potentially be lost en route.
However, I do think that they been carrying out a black ops war against Iran for more than a decade now. They're heavily involved in the cyberwar against Iran (StuxNet and its progeny), as well as various incidents that have befallen Iranian nuclear scientists or other events. On that front, Israel is doing what it can to thwart Iranian nuclear weapons capabilities - perhaps delaying that day of reckoning for years. After all, Stuxnet was designed to shake apart the centrifuges by varying the speeds in such a way that they would disintegrate the sensitive equipment.
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iossarian Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:42:56am |
re: #432 Obdicut
Was there some article posted on Classical Liberalism awhile ago or something? Something really badly written? I've noticed a lot of people suddenly declaring that they're classical liberals, without actually knowing jack shit about what it means.
Not just here, but elsewhere, too.
Hey - I missed this at the time. KT sometimes describes himself as a "Classical Liberal", which makes me laugh because he then goes on to argue that the state can suspend people's rights if necessary to maintain order.
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iossarian Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:43:39am |
re: #467 Obdicut
Nah, I mean I've seen it elsewhere on the web recently too. I don't think it started out here.
It's always weird watching a new meme float around.
I am unaware of having seen it anywhere else, but then that's probably true of how lots of memes get started.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:44:58am |
re: #347 darthstar
I'm not a vindictive person by nature, but I do hope that, after this election is over, Mitt Romney's entire world crashes around him.
I don't bear him any ill-will. I just want him to leave the stage quietly. He can go and do whatever else it is he does after that.
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Sheila Broflovski Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:46:11am |
re: #489 SanFranciscoZionist
I don't bear him any ill-will. I just want him to leave the stage quietly. He can go and do whatever else it is he does after that.
I would like to see him riding Rafalca into the sunset.
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lawhawk Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:46:31am |
re: #467 Obdicut
Classical liberalism? It's basically synonymous with Libertarianism. But its origins go back quite a ways. It's a political science term used to distinguish it from neoliberalism and social liberalism.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:47:43am |
re: #486 lawhawk
I'm not buying that report that Netenyahu and Barak are pushing for an overt strike against Iran. The IDF knows its capabilities and what it can and can't do or get away with. Airstrikes against Iran would overextend the IAF and use too many assets that could potentially be lost en route.
However, I do think that they been carrying out a black ops war against Iran for more than a decade now. They're heavily involved in the cyberwar against Iran (StuxNet and its progeny), as well as various incidents that have befallen Iranian nuclear scientists or other events. On that front, Israel is doing what it can to thwart Iranian nuclear weapons capabilities - perhaps delaying that day of reckoning for years. After all, Stuxnet was designed to shake apart the centrifuges by varying the speeds in such a way that they would disintegrate the sensitive equipment.
It seams there is a plan to attack sooner rather than later but leaks to the press are pushing the timeline back.
US leaks plot to hit Iran N-plants
PLANS for a US attack on Iran's nuclear facilities appear to have been leaked to Israeli newspapers after a visit by US Defence Secretary Leon Panetta last week.
The aim appears to be to prevent an Israeli airstrike on Iran before the US presidential election on November 6. The two papers, Maariv and Yedioth Ahronoth, have both campaigned against a pre-emptive Israeli air attack, which they believe could embroil Israel in a long war.
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Defence Minister Ehud Barak have been openly distrustful of US promises that it will prevent Iran building a nuclear weapon, and will use military force if necessary.
Washington, which imposed tougher sanctions against Iran last week, fears the consequences of an Israel attack before the presidential election.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:47:45am |
re: #485 Obdicut
There's few problems that twenty obsidian-sword weapon traps in a row can't solve.
Especially on a single-width bridge with a magma pit on both sides.
(Though you might want a guard animal posted on the far side to detect and deter those pesky kobolds.)
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Varek Raith Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:48:11am |
re: #483 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste
Hey, I'm perfectly happy slowing the goblins down by having my marksdwarves put a crossbow bolt through their lower legs. Makes it easier for the battleaxe and warhammer armed melee squads to catch them...
Good tactic against deathclaws too.
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Obdicut Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:48:15am |
re: #487 iossarian
Yeah, that was one of the first times that I saw it, but I've seen it on other sites too. And it's normally combined with a strong ignorance of what Classical Liberalism actually is-- mostly because classical liberals don't really fit too well into today's political environment, being anti-all-welfare, anti-regulation, anti-labor-union, anti-positive rights of any sort, etc. It's an archaic term with little meaning in the modern day, and what meaning it has is basically captured under Libertarian.
I think maybe people just hear that Thomas Jefferson was one so they start whoopin' it up. I dunno.
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danarchy Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:48:53am |
re: #473 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance
that is so full of Win. Another reason I prefer cats to dogs.
Yeah, but can a cat be trained to get you a beer?
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Varek Raith Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:49:11am |
re: #485 Obdicut
There's few problems that twenty obsidian-sword weapon traps in a row can't solve.
I prefer flooding them my self.
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Obdicut Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:49:43am |
re: #491 lawhawk
Classical liberalism? It's basically synonymous with Libertarianism. But its origins go back quite a ways. It's a political science term used to distinguish it from neoliberalism and social liberalism.
Yeah, I know the history of it-- I just mean that recently I've seen an outbreak of people identifying themselves that way, even though they display very little knowledge of what the term actually means. I'm wondering if there was some faddish article that made it trendy or something. It kind of reminds me of when Libertarianism got faddish under Bush.
Memes are funny things.
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dragonfire1981 Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:53:56am |
re: #492 NJDhockeyfan
It seams there is a plan to attack sooner rather than later but leaks to the press are pushing the timeline back.
Maybe the Mayans were on to something after all...
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Killgore Trout Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:54:05am |
re: #495 Obdicut
Hitchens did a nice biography a few years ago.
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Obdicut Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:54:39am |
re: #497 Varek Raith
I prefer flooding them my self.
For me, those grand plans just wind up with dwarves who are happy about the waterfall but less happy about the entire fortress slowly flooding.
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lawhawk Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:55:42am |
re: #492 NJDhockeyfan
It's 3d chess in action. Leaking the notion that Israel's ready to attack may get Iran to show its own cards on where/how nuclear materials are being produced, stored, moved, or weaponized. If Iran thinks Israel's about to attack, you might see an increase in SAM site deployments, vehicles deployed differently, etc. That, in turn, provides intel needed to learn more about the nuclear program and who else is involved (Iranian scientists, key officials etc.).
There's a lot of supposition in the articles that Bibi and Barak are ready to attack Iran, whether before or after the election. Some of that is for domestic consumption (Bibi may have to face early elections if he can't keep his coalition government in place so a hawkish position on Iran doesn't cost him anything). Distrust of Obama doesn't hurt Bibi either. But that may not be an accurate reflection of the US-Israel relations or their policies towards Iran.
After all, Israel has a whole lot more on its plate to worry about - there are very real threats posed directly upon its borders: Hamas and Salafist terrorists via Gaza and Sinai, the Syrian civil war and control of the Syrian chemical weapons stockpiles, Hizbullah, and the lawlessness that could happen following the collapse of the Assad regime (both in Syria and in Lebanon should there be spillover courtesy of Hizbullah).
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Gus Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:56:07am |
I see it's the same old "attack Iran before the presidential election" meme being thrown about this morning.
This is war men! Gird your loins and read more Michelle Malkin!
Uh huh.
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Varek Raith Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:56:18am |
re: #501 Obdicut
For me, those grand plans just wind up with dwarves who are happy about the waterfall but less happy about the entire fortress slowly flooding.
Yeah...
I've done that on accident.
Whoops.
Game over.
XD
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:56:58am |
re: #497 Varek Raith
I prefer flooding them my self.
The newest weaponization is using the new minecarts to "shotgun" loads of stone blocks or weapons at attackers. Much more efficient than ballistas and catapults.
And the flooding/magma/weapon trap debate depends a lot on time, resources, and whether you want to recover salvage or not.
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Sheila Broflovski Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:58:03am |
They Have Names: The Sikh Temple Shooting Victims fb.me/Jm4pYxPb— The Militant Negro(TM)(@MrJueseppi) August 10, 2012
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Obdicut Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:58:09am |
re: #500 Killgore Trout
I've read that, but it was years ago. As I recall, even though Hitchens celebrates Paine's rationality a great deal, he's not actually too kind on the actual philosophical precepts of Classical Liberalism-- which is what you'd expect from a Troskyite. Is that where you picked up the term, and does Hitchens somehow gloss over the bit where classical liberals are adamantly opposed to positive rights?
Basically, I'm wondering how you managed to think you were a classical liberal and then immediately began advocating for positive rights.
Not actually expecting a useful or straightforward answer, of course.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:58:15am |
re: #504 Varek Raith
Yeah...
I've done that on accident.
Whoops.
Game over.
XD
Send in the clowns. There have to be clowns...
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Varek Raith Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:59:43am |
re: #505 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste
The newest weaponization is using the new minecarts to "shotgun" loads of stone blocks or weapons at attackers. Much more efficient than ballistas and catapults.
And the flooding/magma/weapon trap debate depends a lot on time, resources, and whether you want to recover salvage or not.
Oh?
I haven't played in some time.
Will have to check out the latest version.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:00:31am |
re: #507 Obdicut
Not actually expecting a useful or straightforward answer, of course.
I'm not expecting a productive conversation either so I'll just drop it.
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iossarian Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:01:29am |
From that Amazon page on the Hitchens book (the second user review):
Sobered by his arrest and incarceration in a French prison, Paine wrote, "He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his own enemy from repression; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself."
I wonder if that applies to waterboarding furr'ners. Probably not.
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:01:58am |
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Killgore Trout Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:02:49am |
U.S. extends sanctions on Hezbollah for support of Syrian government
The U.S. Treasury Department on Friday announced an extension of sanctions against Hezbollah, a Lebanon-based Shiite militant group, for its support of the Syrian government.
Hezbollah, which the United States has long designated a terrorist organization supported by Iran, has provided training, advice and extensive logistical support to President Bashar al-Assad's military campaign against an uprising that began last March, the department reported.
The agency accused the group of directly training Syrian government personnel inside Syria, and facilitating the training of Syrian forces by the Quds Force, an elite unit of Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps.
"Hizballah's extensive support to the Syrian government's violent suppression of the Syrian people exposes the true nature of this terrorist organization and its destabilizing presence in the region," Under Secretary for Terrorism and Financial Intelligence David S. Cohen said in a written statement announcing the sanctions.
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GunstarGreen Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:03:09am |
re: #511 iossarian
From that Amazon page on the Hitchens book (the second user review):
I wonder if that applies to waterboarding furr'ners. Probably not.
The difference is that Paine was not a rock-stupid moron, unlike many of the "great thinkers" of today.
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iossarian Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:03:32am |
re: #510 Killgore Trout
I'm not expecting a productive conversation either so I'll just drop it.
Or you could actually explain how you reconcile Paine's view of the relationship between the state and all individuals with the idea that it's OK to conduct extra-judicial killing and torture in the name of national security.
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makeitstop Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:04:49am |
re: #515 iossarian
Or you could actually explain how you reconcile Paine's view of the relationship between the state and all individuals with the idea that it's OK to conduct extra-judicial killing and torture in the name of national security.
Or not.
/
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:04:50am |
re: #514 GunstarGreen
The difference is that Paine was not a rock-stupid moron, unlike many of the "great thinkers" of today.
Yea! I bet Paine doesn't have any many followers on Twitter as the "great thinkers" do!
;)
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Varek Raith Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:06:02am |
re: #510 Killgore Trout
I'm not expecting a productive conversation either so I'll just drop it.
Translation: I am unable to defend my posiOWS!!
:P
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:08:00am |
re: #509 Varek Raith
Oh?
I haven't played in some time.
Will have to check out the latest version.
There have been a number of changes in the last few versions. Necromancers, vampires, werecreatures added. Evil biomes can be *very* nasty. A number of fixes and updates to how hauling works (including the addition of minecarts and wheelbarrows). Plus the ability of survivors from your last fortress of a civilization potentially showing up as migrants to a new fortress.
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Obdicut Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:08:15am |
re: #510 Killgore Trout
I'm not expecting a productive conversation either so I'll just drop it.
You go ahead and do that.
One thing I've noticed about a lot of the people calling themselves "classical liberals" (who aren't just embarrassed Libertarians) is that they don't know how extremely economically conservative classical liberals are-- the anti-union part, for example. Would you be at least willing to say if, when you used the term to describe yourself, you were aware that Classical Liberals are extremely hostile to unions, and to any 'entitlement' spending like welfare, food stamps, and the like, and favor extremely limited government? That, as Lawhawk said above, it's pretty much synonymous with 'libertarian' in modern terms?
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:09:05am |
re: #448 Learned Mother of Zion
There is a big demand for .NET skills, this is the result of companies deciding to
update their old classic ASP code to the newer technology.make everything terrible.
FTFM.
One employer's take on .NET, and why they don't hire .NET programmers:
(huge quote from an article well worth reading, if you enjoy this sort of thing)
Programming with .NET is like cooking in a McDonalds kitchen. It is full of amazing tools that automate absolutely everything. Just press the right button and follow the beeping lights, and you can churn out flawless 1.6 oz burgers faster than anybody else on the planet.
However, if you need to make a 1.7 oz burger, you simply can’t. There’s no button for it. The patties are pre-formed in the wrong size. They start out frozen so they can’t be smushed up and reformed, and the thawing machine is so tightly integrated with the cooking machine that there’s no way to intercept it between the two. A McDonalds kitchen makes exactly what’s on the McDonalds menu — and does so in an absolutely foolproof fashion. But it can’t go off the menu, and any attempt to bend the machine to your will just breaks it such that it needs to be sent back to the factory for repairs.
Instead, we look for a very different sort of person. The sort of person who grew up cooking squirrels over a campfire with sharpened sticks — squirrels they caught and skinned while scavenging in the deep forests for survival. We don’t want a short order chef, we want a Lord of the Flies, carried by wolves into civilization and raised in a French kitchen full of copper-bottomed pots and fresh-picked herbs. We need people who can not only cook burgers, but cook anything, from scratch.
See, Microsoft very intentionally (and very successfully) created .NET to be as different as possible from everything else out there, keeping the programmer far away from the details such that they’re wholly and utterly dependent on Microsoft’s truly amazing suite of programming tools to do all the thinking for them. Microsoft started down this path when they were the only game in town, explicitly to maintain their monopoly by making it as hard as possible to either port Windows apps to non-Windows platforms, or to even conceive of how to do it in the first place.
This decision — or this mandate for incompatibility, perhaps — has produced countless ramifications. Small things, like using backslashes in file paths rather than forward slashes like any dignified OS., or using a left-handed coordinate system with DirectX instead of right-handed as was used since the dawn of computer graphics. Big things, like obscuring the networking stack under so many countless layers of abstraction that it’s virtually impossible to even imagine what bytes are actually going over the wire. And a thousand other things in between: programming tools that generate a dozen complex files before you even write your first line of code, expensive servers that force a remote GUI terminal on you to do essentially anything despite a few keystrokes being perfectly adequate for everybody else, a programming culture almost allergic to open source licensing. The list goes on and on.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:09:26am |
Former Lebanese minister arrested for planning attacks for Syria's Assad
Michel Samaha, a former Lebanese minister, reportedly confessed to helping plan attacks on Sunni targets in Lebanon. If true, it illustrates how far Syria's Assad regime can reach into Lebanon.
Michel Samaha, a former Lebanese minister who is a close ally of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, has reportedly confessed to helping plan a series of bomb attacks against Sunni targets in north Lebanon at the behest of the Syrian leadership.
The discovery of the reported bomb plot will have significant political repercussions if confirmed and will harden fears in Lebanon that the embattled Assad regime is seeking to export its troubles to its tiny neighbor, which is split between supporters and opponents of the Syrian president.
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Varek Raith Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:12:07am |
Pants on fire != Lie...
...In bizzaro world.
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iossarian Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:12:51am |
re: #523 Varek Raith
Pants on fire != Lie...
...In bizzaro world.
They are calling Harry Reid a holy man of the faith.
"Friar, friar, pants on fire!"
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Varek Raith Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:12:56am |
re: #522 Killgore Trout
Former Lebanese minister arrested for planning attacks for Syria's Assad
Speaking of Assad, does anyone know where he is?
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iossarian Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:13:42am |
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Sheila Broflovski Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:14:17am |
re: #521 What Would Spalding Gray Do?
FTFM.
One employer's take on .NET, and why they don't hire .NET programmers:
(huge quote from an article well worth reading, if you enjoy this sort of thing)
This tells me they are too cheap to provide their developers with the tools they need, and expect them to write their code using Notepad or vi.
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erik_t Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:15:13am |
When doubling down on an unpopular position, it's best to also insult the majority in the process.
“It’s ridiculous,” Priebus said Friday morning on CNN’s Starting Point, when asked to respond to polls showing that 63 percent of the public thinks Romney should release more tax returns. “I’m not spending any more time talking about this issue,” the Chairman informed the hosts [...]
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William Barnett-Lewis Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:15:15am |
re: #466 erik_t
Throw the phrases Trout, classical liberal and Gitmo in a blender. You'll end up with a close approximation of the origin. It was only a week or two ago.
Never mind none of them actually are classical liberals but hey, it sounds better than "half way to wingnut" so they go for it.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:16:06am |
re: #428 Obdicut
Huh. Portman, the supposedly safe and sensible pick for VP, used to be a registered lobbyist for self-styled Voodoo dictator Baby Doc Duvalier and three Cuban cigar manufacturers.
Is that really non-controversial? Being a lobbyist for a dictator? A dictator who tortured and killed thousands?
It can be made so, yes.
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GunstarGreen Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:17:00am |
re: #527 Learned Mother of Zion
This tells me they are too cheap to provide their developers with the tools they need, and expect them to write their code using Notepad or vi.
I would not trust a programmer that is incapable of producing working code in a syntax-highlighting text editor. Or at the very, very least, an open-source IDE like Eclipse. I've worked with far too many people that cannot write decent code without tremendous assistance by various automated utilities, and it shows in the appalling quality of code they churn out. Yeah, it functions, but pity the poor bastard that has to maintain it.
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iossarian Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:17:42am |
re: #527 Learned Mother of Zion
This tells me they are too cheap to provide their developers with the tools they need, and expect them to write their code using Notepad or vi.
I thought that was a pretty unthinking .NET flame to be honest. Is a .NET approach (whatever that means) better in some settings than others? Yes. Does .NET experience mean that you're a mindless corporate drone who just doesn't get the special creative fruitiness of exciting startup companies? No.
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William Barnett-Lewis Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:19:12am |
re: #428 Obdicut
Huh. Portman, the supposedly safe and sensible pick for VP, used to be a registered lobbyist for self-styled Voodoo dictator Baby Doc Duvalier and three Cuban cigar manufacturers.
Is that really non-controversial? Being a lobbyist for a dictator? A dictator who tortured and killed thousands?
He was a right wing dictator, so I think that's covered by "IOKIYAAR". But if you like a left wing dictator then you can't ever be forgiven.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:19:22am |
re: #464 NJDhockeyfan
Netanyahu and Barak said to be pushing for an Iran strike this fall
Haven't they been said to be doing that for, like, the last five or six falls?
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Killgore Trout Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:19:45am |
re: #525 Varek Raith
Speaking of Assad, does anyone know where he is?
I think he's still in Syria. He showed up on TV a few days ago.
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Lidane Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:20:46am |
re: #428 Obdicut
Is that really non-controversial? Being a lobbyist for a dictator? A dictator who tortured and killed thousands?
The right loves Pinochet, so being a lobbyist for Duvalier wouldn't hurt Portman at all.
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CarleeCork Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:20:50am |
re: #468 makeitstop
Try living in Texas. I'm surrounded by the crazies.
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darthstar Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:20:53am |
Wow...Dark Falcon said this last night and I thought he was being short-sighted...but apparently Rinsed Pubis agrees with him.
“It’s ridiculous,” Priebus said Friday morning on CNN’s Starting Point, when asked to respond to polls showing that 63 percent of the public thinks Romney should release more tax returns. “I’m not spending any more time talking about this issue,"
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:21:23am |
re: #527 Learned Mother of Zion
This tells me they are too cheap to provide their developers with the tools they need, and expect them to write their code using Notepad or vi.
Obviously you have something against Manly Men doing Manly Things the Manly Way(tm).
/
(actually, I'd use notepad++ and/or vim...)
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darthstar Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:21:29am |
re: #534 SanFranciscoZionist
Haven't they been said to be doing that for, like, the last five or six falls?
They say that every fall...only this one is a US election fall.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:22:46am |
Things are certainly getting interesting in Lebanon....
Lebanon concerned by Hezbollah money-laundering
Banking officials and residents in Beirut are concerned about a US pressure group’s report that Hezbollah and Iran are using Lebanon’s banks in a large money-laundering scheme, a leading Lebanese daily reported on Thursday.
New York-based United Against a Nuclear Iran (UANI) made public last month the results of a three-month, confidential investigation into the influence of Iran and Hezbollah on Lebanon’s banking system and sovereign bond market.
The group says Lebanon’s financial system – including Banque du Liban, the country’s central bank – is being used to funnel massive amounts of illicit cash for Hezbollah and its state sponsor, Iran.
“The Lebanese banking system provides the means by which Iran transacts funds transfers to evade the effects of sanctions and the growing international banking blockade against Iran, and allows the money transfers that support illicit weapons and other transactions, including with Syria,” UANI said.
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William Barnett-Lewis Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:23:30am |
re: #539 What Would Spalding Gray Do?
Obviously you have something against Manly Men doing Manly Things the Manly Way(tm).
/
(actually, I'd use notepad++ and/or vim...)
Bet there's a .NET mode for EMACS ... /// ;)
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Lidane Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:23:33am |
re: #537 CarleeCork
Try living in Texas. I'm surrounded by the crazies.
Preach it. The crazy is strong around here. It's depressing.
It makes me glad that the job I'm interviewing for next week would involve anywhere from 20-40% travel. Not only would I get out of Texas once in a good while, but I'd get paid to do it, too.
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Varek Raith Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:25:01am |
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Sheila Broflovski Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:25:48am |
re: #539 What Would Spalding Gray Do?
Obviously you have something against Manly Men doing Manly Things the Manly Way(tm).
/
I started out back in the day when we had to write our code on punch cards. Yes, freaking punch cards!
Also, every project where I have used an IDE I have written code in source view, not GUI mode.
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iossarian Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:27:04am |
re: #546 Learned Mother of Zion
I started out back in the day when we had to write our code on punch cards. Yes, freaking punch cards!
Also, every project where I have used an IDE I have written code in source view, not GUI mode.
I missed out on punch cards, but I did learn to program on a ZX-81.
10 PRINT "I AM COOL" 20 GOTO 10 RUN
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Sheila Broflovski Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:28:03am |
FIRST WORLD QUALITY AT THIRD WORLD PRICES.
Our airports are Third World--horrible. Let's rebuild them by people who know how to do it--inexpensively.— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 10, 2012
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:28:43am |
As a .NET developer I rather resent the idea that because I use tools such as Visual Studio I'm somehow a drone, or worse don't know what I am doing. I was writing Java in notepad, prefer writing my own HTML, javascript, and other items to make web sites etc. but given the need to get things done and out the door I find .NET does what is needed to be done in a rather efficient manner (with the exception of their AJAX toolkit/implementation). Sure I could spend time writing code in another language and have to track down possible errors file by file line by line and not have automated debuggers and even bug prevention tools that allow me to spend more time getting actual work done but why would I want to?
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:29:31am |
I will say, however, that the Infragistics tools for .NET can go DIAF for being the crappiest addon tools ever.
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erik_t Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:30:40am |
re: #548 Learned Mother of Zion
FIRST WORLD QUALITY AT THIRD WORLD PRICES.
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As if Donald Trump has ever been in a you-people concourse. Asshole has his own goddamn jet SEVEN FIFTY SEVEN.
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Sheila Broflovski Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:32:34am |
re: #547 iossarian
I missed out on punch cards, but I did learn to program on a ZX-81.
10 PRINT "I AM COOL"
20 GOTO 10
RUN
You will use up all the green and white paper on your line printer, until someone pulls the plug!
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AngryDude Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:33:06am |
For those of you who are American, can you please explain the popularity of these obtuse characters? Are that many Americans stupid or mentally unstable? People like Alex Jones or Jerome Corsi could never achieve the level of preeminence they have in the United States here in Canada. Nor for that matter could Glen Beck at his prime. What is going on down there?
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Decatur Deb Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:33:39am |
Local boy makes the news. Note the tattoo, most likely anarchist/black bloc.
Occupy titty bars.
[Link: www.waff.com...]
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:37:21am |
re: #540 darthstar
They say that every fall...only this one is a US election fall.
Wars, and rumors of wars...
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:37:41am |
re: #548 Learned Mother of Zion
FIRST WORLD QUALITY AT THIRD WORLD PRICES.
Once we nationalize the airlines Donald. :p
The "free market" includes things like Useless Air getting a big handout in the modernization of the Pittsburgh airport as a hub for USAir. They had an entire terminal section of gates exclusively to themselves. And suddenly flying USAir out of Pittsburgh itself got expensive enough that groups *drove* to Cleveland to take flights that then went to Pittsburgh and connected elsewhere.
And then when things got tight for USAir they tried to welch on their lease agreeement, blackmail the State of Pennsylvania over the same issue by threatening to de-hub both Pittsburgh and Philadelphia, and then abandoning Pittsburgh as a hub anyways leaving a good chunk of the gates unused.
I expect your goal of such a plan would be to be in on the development process with your so-called expertise in real estate, rake in the federal and state development assistance funds, and then walk away leaving the locales and taxpayers holding the bag for something you and the airlines are not really willing to pay for.
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iossarian Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:37:58am |
re: #549 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance
As a .NET developer I rather resent the idea that because I use tools such as Visual Studio I'm somehow a drone, or worse don't know what I am doing. I was writing Java in notepad, prefer writing my own HTML, javascript, and other items to make web sites etc. but given the need to get things done and out the door I find .NET does what is needed to be done in a rather efficient manner (with the exception of their AJAX toolkit/implementation). Sure I could spend time writing code in another language and have to track down possible errors file by file line by line and not have automated debuggers and even bug prevention tools that allow me to spend more time getting actual work done but why would I want to?
Because you want to work for a self-aggrandizing wanker who founded a startup that makes software to run expense reports?
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darthstar Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:39:34am |
re: #553 Learned Mother of Zion
You will use up all the green and white paper on your line printer, until someone pulls the plug!
I did that in college once. Basic class...assignment was to write a program to print numbers out in some simple algorithm. Teacher had a sample solution on his directory. I modified it slightly (changed a + to a - here and there) and re-saved it on his drive. Students were supposed to print their solutions then submit the paper for grading. Damn thing was spitting out 20-30 pages of random numbers for each person in class (seems like everyone thought they could just use the solution and not have to write the program themselves...cheaters). Burned up a couple of cartriges of ribbon before the guys in the lab figured out what happened and who did it. That pretty much ended my CS major as they restricted my hours in the lab to 3 per month to keep me from doing more damage, then I had to ask for more time if I needed it. THREE HOURS!
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Mocking Jay Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:40:40am |
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Lidane Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:40:50am |
re: #548 Learned Mother of Zion
FIRST WORLD QUALITY AT THIRD WORLD PRICES.
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Because the best way to rebuild something is by cutting corners and doing a half-assed job. Really.
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Gus Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:40:57am |
One stupid tiny bar on my AT&T 4G network. Even better it went down to zero 5 minutes ago as in "no network." And it's not like I'm in freaking Hooterville.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:42:03am |
re: #554 AngryDude
For those of you who are American, can you please explain the popularity of these obtuse characters? Are that many Americans stupid or mentally unstable? People like Alex Jones or Jerome Corsi could never achieve the level of preeminence they have in the United States here in Canada. Nor for that matter could Glen Beck at his prime. What is going on down there?
There are 300 million of us here in a society that pretty much can tolerate the upbringing and education of a lot of nutbars*. And the internet and media allows a small number of them to be viewed by a large number of people.
If 1 in 10,000 of Americans are nutbars, that is still 30,000 people.
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Gus Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:45:09am |
Romney Courts the Crazies | Dispatches from the Culture Wars
Mitt Romney continues to kiss the rings of every whackjob on the right he can find. While I was in Denver last week, so was Romney, meeting with Gary Bauer, James Dobson, Tony Perkins and Jerry Boykin. Boykin is the worst of this very bad group, for reasons I’ve documented on this blog many times before. But Right Wing Watch puts it all in one place...
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Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:45:38am |
re: #486 lawhawk
I'm not buying that report that Netenyahu and Barak are pushing for an overt strike against Iran. The IDF knows its capabilities and what it can and can't do or get away with. Airstrikes against Iran would overextend the IAF and use too many assets that could potentially be lost en route.
However, I do think that they been carrying out a black ops war against Iran for more than a decade now. They're heavily involved in the cyberwar against Iran (StuxNet and its progeny), as well as various incidents that have befallen Iranian nuclear scientists or other events. On that front, Israel is doing what it can to thwart Iranian nuclear weapons capabilities - perhaps delaying that day of reckoning for years. After all, Stuxnet was designed to shake apart the centrifuges by varying the speeds in such a way that they would disintegrate the sensitive equipment.
Iran will most probably stage a test detonation of an atomic bomb well within the next year, you simply cannot stop any nation willing to commit the financial resources for the engineering from acquiring nuclear capability. Iran is now well past the point of acknowledged infrastructure development that North Korea was at when it "surprised" the world with it's first nuclear test blast.
Iran will be a Nuclear power, just as North Korea became one regardless of sanctions and hand wringing platitudes and by the way while most intelligence pundits continued to claim that they were still up to "five years away" from achieving their goal of a nuclear weapon.
Personally I would not be at all surprised if Iran was already of capable of creating a atomic bomb or two right now, after all they would want to wait until they had sufficient materials on hand to build, or rather until they had already built, four or five weapons before giving themselves away by detonating one to prove it to the world.
Just as when North Korea joined the Nuclear Powers Club and the world adjusted itself to a fait accompli seemingly overnight so to will the world adjust itself to a Nuclear Iran. The time when outside forces might have prevented this is long past already, we should instead be concentrating on what our response will be to a nuclear armed Iran.
By possessing and threatening to use WMD's they would then fall under our pledged treaty response to an attack by WMD's, which is to retaliate in kind. Iran would now also be under direct threat of American Nuclear retaliation for any such attack on Israel.
Where we go from there is anyone's guess, but hasn't that already been true all along?
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darthstar Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:50:45am |
Mitch McConnell's an asshole motherfucker.
Biden says that during the transition, he was warned not to expect any cooperation on many votes. “I spoke to seven different Republican Senators, who said, `Joe, I’m not going to be able to help you on anything,’ he recalls. His informants said McConnell had demanded unified resistance. “The way it was characterized to me was: `For the next two years, we can’t let you succeed in anything. That’s our ticket to coming back,’” Biden says.
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:51:06am |
re: #558 iossarian
LOL. The funny thing to me is while .NET is very structured you can make it do things they never, necessarily, intended it to do. My boss is a genius when it comes to architecture and programming and he was making .NET and Microsoft SQL Server do some pretty amazing things with our one application. Even had people down from Microsoft and I remember one of them saying "Wow, I didn't know it could even do that!"
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Kragar Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:51:48am |
Robertson: Gay Rights Advocates Should 'Shut Their Mouth'
Yesterday on the 700 Club, Pat Robertson said that activists who don’t want Chick-fil-A on their college campus due to the company’s anti-gay advocacy should keep quiet: “I defy these homosexuals to bring forth a baby from that part of the anatomy which they concentrate on, when that happens I will change everything I’m saying; until that happens, I wish those demonstrators would shut their mouth.” Robertson warned that legal abortion and homosexuality are violations of God’s law and are “the reasons why land will vomit out its inhabitants.”
I entreat Pat to help himself to a frosty mug of shut the fuck up with a loving sprinkle of fuckwad on top.
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Sheila Broflovski Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:51:48am |
re: #532 iossarian
Does .NET experience mean that you're a mindless corporate drone who just doesn't get the special creative fruitiness of exciting startup companies?
Well yeah, kinda, cause I'd much rather work in a mindless corporate environment where I have access to all the tools I need rather than soaking in the aura of teh creative spayshul fruitiness. Also, the corporations pay more.
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Gus Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:53:10am |
Romney's pal Jerry Boykin bit.ly/NRg5Pm also inducted "friend of the #EDL" Sabaditsch-Wolff into chivalric order wp.me/p21TEW-2Vn— Richard Bartholomew (@Barthsnotes) August 10, 2012
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:53:39am |
re: #568 Kragar
Well you need sperm to make a baby so a baby does come forth from that part of the anatomy so Pat Robertson can go DIAF too.
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darthstar Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:54:26am |
re: #569 Learned Mother of Zion
Well yeah, kinda, cause I'd much rather work in a mindless corporate environment where I have access to all the tools I need rather than soaking in the aura of teh creative spayshul fruitiness. Also, the corporations pay more.
I just left HP. Starting with a start-up on Monday. Pays more, and it's in the city(San Francisco)...not some god-awful industrial park in the middle of silicone valley.
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:54:41am |
re: #569 Learned Mother of Zion
a lot of startups use .NET...why? They can get their products to market much faster and more efficiently.
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Kragar Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:55:31am |
re: #572 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance
Well you need sperm to make a baby so a baby does come forth from that part of the anatomy so Pat Robertson can go DIAF too.
I think he was talking about the butt.
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:55:42am |
re: #573 darthstar
I've only ever worked for one truly HUGE company. Even then I was in a satellite office and totally removed from the corporate side (loved going to corporate with a mohawk).
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:56:02am |
re: #575 Kragar
the plumbing can be re-routed...
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iossarian Fri, Aug 10, 2012 9:58:59am |
re: #575 Kragar
I think he was talking about the butt.
- What about the foot fetishists?
- Yes, OK, the foot fetishists as well.
- What about elbow-fanciers?
- Them too, ok, now...
- What about...
- SHUT UP
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darthstar Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:00:37am |
re: #576 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance
I've only ever worked for one truly HUGE company. Even then I was in a satellite office and totally removed from the corporate side (loved going to corporate with a mohawk).
HP's not a bad company, and a person could nest there for 25 years and never have to worry about doing shit if they wanted (and I know several people who have). But the corporate process overkill can be soul-sucking if you're trying to innovate, and the constant shifting of the deck chairs (Meg announced a new executive shift almost every week the last three months I was there) does have a trickle down effect, and not a good one, as individual groups can quickly become rudderless, then the brain drain floodgates begin to open as the good developers and managers flee...which is what I did.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:01:51am |
re: #578 iossarian
- What about the foot fetishists?
- Yes, OK, the foot fetishists as well.
- What about elbow-fanciers?
- Them too, ok, now...
- What about...
- SHUT UP
You forgot the Furries . . .
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Killgore Trout Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:02:55am |
re: #554 AngryDude
For those of you who are American, can you please explain the popularity of these obtuse characters? Are that many Americans stupid or mentally unstable? People like Alex Jones or Jerome Corsi could never achieve the level of preeminence they have in the United States here in Canada. Nor for that matter could Glen Beck at his prime. What is going on down there?
There are a couple factors. Poor education and culturally we don't value intellectuals. They're seen as elitist eggheads, most of our cultural heroes are simple "everyman" types. That's why so much of our presidential politics is focused on who is more relatable. Our press generally doesn't do a very good job but we've taken the British tabloid concept and created tribalist 24 news networks that feed partisan viewers simple concepts and catch phrases around the clock. Fear and anger have a lot of popular appeal.
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Sheila Broflovski Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:03:34am |
re: #579 darthstar
HP's not a bad company, and a person could nest there for 25 years and never have to worry about doing shit if they wanted (and I know several people who have). But the corporate process overkill can be soul-sucking if you're trying to innovate, and the constant shifting of the deck chairs (Meg announced a new executive shift almost every week the last three months I was there) does have a trickle down effect, and not a good one, as individual groups can quickly become rudderless, then the brain drain floodgates begin to open as the good developers and managers flee...which is what I did.
HP acquired EDS. Enough said!
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darthstar Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:03:34am |
re: #580 Gus
Robertson: Gay Rights Advocates Should "Shut Their Mouth"
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The same could be said for a number of top Republicans when they are in public men's rooms.
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Gus Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:04:18am |
Don't talk about my religion even though I'm using my religion to curtail your freedom and teach superstitious nonsense in the classroom!
//
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Gus Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:05:16am |
re: #582 Killgore Trout
There are a couple factors. Poor education and culturally we don't value intellectuals. They're seen as elitist eggheads, most of our cultural heroes are simple "everyman" types. That's why so much of our presidential politics is focused on who is more relatable. Our press generally doesn't do a very good job but we've taken the British tabloid concept and created tribalist 24 news networks that feed partisan viewers simple concepts and catch phrases around the clock. Fear and anger have a lot of popular appeal.
That's what got us into the Iraq War. Don't you agree?
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lawhawk Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:05:21am |
re: #548 Learned Mother of Zion
Guess he hasn't been over at JFK recently, with the new jetBlue terminal, or the new Delta terminal? Or the international terminal that has been redone. Or that the runways and taxiways have been upgraded recently.
Or ignores that the Port Authority is getting a complete redo of LGA?
Or that EWR has seen major terminal improvements in recent years.
Or that other airports have just built new terminals or upgraded terminals: McCarran (LAS), Hartsfield (ATL), or San Francisco (SFO).
And that's just off the top of my head.
But there is a long way to go. Airport infrastructure is constrained by NIMBY factors limiting where and how airports can expand and they have to operate while undergoing the construction projects - especially true when you're trying to rebuild/expand/renovate facilities that were built decades ago.
Add to that the additional requirements to deal with security checkpoints, and you have space constraints on even modern facilities (say those built immediately prior to 9/11).
But it makes for a great talking point to anyone that hasn't been paying attention.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:06:18am |
Forensics report gives clues to identity of Sinai attackers
The initial forensic report on the bodies of the Rafah checkpoint attackers suggests that the perpetrators were wearing military uniforms made in Nablus, Palestine at the time of the attack.
Five bodies were 99 percent burned from an explosion, while a sixth had gunshots throughout his body. They were all men in their thirties with reportedly Arab features. Their DNA was taken to be matched against that of criminals currently wanted by the police.
Israel handed over four bodies to Egypt on Monday, saying its forces killed them after they seized an armored truck from the Egyptian side and attempted to cross the border.
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Gus Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:06:58am |
Thunderf00t being a douche:
So thunderf00t hacks into the FTB listserv and disseminates their emails... but THEIR the ones who are out to get HIM? freethoughtblogs.com/lousycanuck/20...— Peach Braxton (@MochaPeach) August 10, 2012
Saw that coming. Never liked the guy.
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Kragar Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:07:02am |
Someone should remind Pat that Christians aren't born that way but inducted into the lifestyle, and they can only increase their numbers by active recruitment, including by preying on children and family members.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:07:08am |
Killgore! I have bad news. We think patio Toad was flattened on the communal driveway. There is a Looney Tunes version of a Toad a few houses down.
so sad.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:08:02am |
re: #582 Killgore Trout
There are a couple factors. Poor education and culturally we don't value intellectuals. They're seen as elitist eggheads, most of our cultural heroes are simple "everyman" types. That's why so much of our presidential politics is focused on who is more relatable. Our press generally doesn't do a very good job but we've taken the British tabloid concept and created tribalist 24 news networks that feed partisan viewers simple concepts and catch phrases around the clock. Fear and anger have a lot of popular appeal.
One also has to remember that the idea that people came here for religious freedom is a bunch of bunk. They came here to practice intolerance as well.
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Kragar Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:08:17am |
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Lidane Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:08:27am |
Hey, for the developer/programmer folks -- do you know any good resource to read up on software localization and/or translation that isn't Wikipedia? My interview next week is for a sales position with a company that specializes in localization and translation services. I understand them both in the abstract, of course, but it would be nice to have a more solid foundation under my feet before I walk in the door.
I want this job. They asked for a salary range and I threw out what I thought were ridiculous numbers and they want to interview me anyway. Any help would be appreciated. :)
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Gus Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:08:56am |
re: #593 Kragar
David Barton responds to critics in true David Barton fashion
With a heavily starched American flag shirt?
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Killgore Trout Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:09:08am |
re: #588 NJDhockeyfan
They were all men in their thirties with reportedly Arab features.
I'm not sure how to interpret that. Might that mean they weren't Bedouin?
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:09:13am |
A vast "raft" of volcanic rocks covering 10,000 sq miles (26,000 sq km) of ocean has been spotted by a New Zealand military aircraft.A naval ship was forced to change course in order to avoid the cluster of buoyant rocks, located 1,000 miles off the New Zealand coast.
The unusual phenomenon was probably the result of pumice being released from an underwater volcano, experts said.
One navy officer described it as the "weirdest thing" he had seen at sea.
Lieutenant Tim Oscar told the AFP news agency: "As far ahead as I could observe was a raft of pumice moving up and down with the swell.
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HappyWarrior Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:09:46am |
When you want a huge dose of stupid, you can always count on Mr. Corsi to provide it.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:10:19am |
re: #591 ggt
Killgore! I have bad news. We think patio Toad was flattened on the communal driveway. There is a Looney Tunes version of a Toad a few houses down.
so sad.
Bummer. Maybe it was just one of his friends.
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iossarian Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:10:33am |
re: #594 Lidane
Hey, for the developer/programmer folks -- do you know any good resource to read up on software localization and/or translation that isn't Wikipedia? My interview next week is for a sales position with a company that specializes in localization and translation services. I understand them both in the abstract, of course, but it would be nice to have a more solid foundation under my feet before I walk in the door.
I want this job. They asked for a salary range and I threw out what I thought were ridiculous numbers and they want to interview me anyway. Any help would be appreciated. :)
Do you know your gettext?
[Link: translationproject.org...]
That is probably the single largest translation project (or meta-project) out there, so probably good to have a reasonable understanding of it.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:11:25am |
re: #592 ggt
One also has to remember that the idea that people came here for religious freedom is a bunch of bunk. They came here to practice intolerance as well.
True. We have largely whitewashed our own history but I suppose everybody does that to some extent.
| 602 |
Sheila Broflovski Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:12:08am |
re: #594 Lidane
Hey, for the developer/programmer folks -- do you know any good resource to read up on software localization and/or translation that isn't Wikipedia? My interview next week is for a sales position with a company that specializes in localization and translation services. I understand them both in the abstract, of course, but it would be nice to have a more solid foundation under my feet before I walk in the door.
I want this job. They asked for a salary range and I threw out what I thought were ridiculous numbers and they want to interview me anyway. Any help would be appreciated. :)
Localization tools determine the native language and country of origin of the user, and renders the browser accordingly. It means that if you have a multinational user base, you have to customize your product for every language and cultural group.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:12:44am |
Top Mexican 'drug queen' Sandra Avila extradited to the USSandra Avila Beltran has been in custody since 2007
Mexico has extradited to the United States a woman accused of setting up some of the first drug smuggling routes up the Pacific coast into California.
There is a really good map of cartel territory at the bottom of the article, I have no idea how to show it here.
| 604 |
Gus Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:13:07am |
A veteran wishes he had lost his leg in Iraq, instead of his brilliant mind. An amazing story: nyti.ms/TomvdP— Nicholas Kristof (@NickKristof) August 10, 2012
| 605 |
NJDhockeyfan Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:13:59am |
re: #542 Killgore Trout
Speaking of money laundering...
U.S. regulators irate at NY action against Standard Chartered
(Reuters) - The U.S. Treasury Department and Federal Reserve were blindsided and angered by the decision of a New York banking regulator to launch an explosive attack on Standard Chartered Plc over $250 billion in alleged money laundering transactions tied to Iran, sources familiar with the situation said.
By going it alone through the order he issued on Monday, the head of the recently created New York State Department of Financial Services, Benjamin Lawsky, also complicates talks between the Treasury and London-based Standard Chartered to settle claims over the transactions, several of the sources said.
His action, which included releasing embarrassing communications and details of the bank's alleged defiance of U.S. sanctions, is rewriting the playbook on how foreign banks settle cases involving the processing of shadowy funds tied to sanctioned countries. In the past, such cases have usually been settled through negotiated settlements with public shaming kept to a minimum.
In his order, Lawsky said the bank's dealings exposed the U.S. banking system to terrorists, drug traffickers and corrupt states.
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Eventual Carrion Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:14:02am |
re: #550 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance
I will say, however, that the Infragistics tools for .NET can go DIAF for being the crappiest addon tools ever.
I'm with ya there. I inherited a project that used them extensively and I hated them. Their UI tools seemed kludgey (Tho' I have to admit I don't really like doing UI stuff. I'm more a back-end, move data around kinda guy. Give me a port and a data stream and I'm happy). But I would still take them over the crap, flat file type, 1980 era, data file system I have to work with on the current project. Hell, Borland Paradox table would run rings around the file system I am having to fight with right now (or even Access, Aaaahhhh).
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Killgore Trout Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:16:32am |
re: #605 NJDhockeyfan
Speaking of money laundering...
U.S. regulators irate at NY action against Standard Chartered
That should be a much bigger story that it is.
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Eventual Carrion Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:17:57am |
re: #553 Learned Mother of Zion
You will use up all the green and white paper on your line printer, until someone pulls the plug!
It will look like the paper loop broke on the carriage line feed for your 1403-N1 IBM printer (old mainframe days for the government). That would fill the interior of the printer with paper real quick. I loved watching newbies faces when that first happens to them.
| 609 |
iossarian Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:18:02am |
re: #605 NJDhockeyfan
Speaking of money laundering...
U.S. regulators irate at NY action against Standard Chartered
"US regulators were angry that Standard Chartered ignored protocol and dealt with Iran without using Oliver North as the middle-man."
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:20:01am |
re: #607 Killgore Trout
That should be a much bigger story that it is.
What's involved with this? Politics, of course!
...The New York regulator's action may also cause problems for Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner. The Federal Reserve Bank of New York overseas branches of foreign-owned banks located in New York, and as president of the New York Fed from 2003 to 2009, Geithner would have had ultimate responsibility for regulating Standard Chartered during the period when much of the alleged money laundering took place.
Geithner has come under fire from Congress for the New York Fed's failure to stop banks from manipulating a key benchmark interest rate, Libor.
POLITICAL CONSIDERATIONS
Sources familiar with the New York regulator's decision say it was based in part on a worry that the Treasury and the Fed were trying to slow the settlement process down until conditions were more politically favorable. The U.S. presidential election is only three months away and Geithner has indicated he will leave his post at the end of the year.
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Gus Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:22:24am |
re: #610 NJDhockeyfan
What's involved with this? Politics, of course!
Had this been done under a Republican presidency the freaking right wingers would have been saying that it compromises both the war on terror and national security. Yes, "political considerations." The same ones that the necons follow.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:23:06am |
re: #612 Gus
Had this been done under a Republican presidency the freaking right wingers would have been saying that it compromises both the war on terror and national security. Yes, "political considerations." The same ones that the necons follow.
So you are just as outraged?
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:23:56am |
Feel good story of the day...
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Killgore Trout Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:24:10am |
re: #610 NJDhockeyfan
Sources familiar with the New York regulator's decision say it was based in part on a worry that the Treasury and the Fed were trying to slow the settlement process down until conditions were more politically favorable.
Yeah, this looks really bad.
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:25:11am |
re: #597 ggt
sounds like how R'Lyeh started to rise...
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The Left Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:25:22am |
re: #611 Gus
Moozlamic ray guns and the Democrat Party.
//
You called it the Democrat party. :(
Hope you're doing well Gus! Just sent you an email.
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wrenchwench Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:25:41am |
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Kragar Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:25:48am |
Sent to me from a friend:
"Wouldn't a tickle fight between James Earl Jones and Morgan Freeman be the most epic thing ever?"
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:26:28am |
re: #564 Gus
Romney Courts the Crazies | Dispatches from the Culture Wars
First comment nails it:
Gregory in Seattle says:
You are acting surprised again.
Is there a word for that slightly morbid, futile laughter that one resorts to when the only other alternative is to cry? That seems like the kind of thing that would have a really good German or Yiddish word for it, along the lines of words like schadenfreude or chutzpah.
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:27:05am |
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Gus Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:27:38am |
re: #613 NJDhockeyfan
So you are just as outraged?
I'm not outraged. Shit happens. I just find the subtle anti-Obama subtext hilarious.
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iossarian Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:29:22am |
re: #623 Gus
I'm not outraged. Shit happens. I just find the subtle anti-Obama subtext hilarious.
It's not just that. Oliver North's a frickin' right wing hero to this day, and yet it's all "you can't sell illegal weapons to Iran, that would be baaaad".
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Gus Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:30:27am |
For example:
Of course. New York state regulators caught London-based Standard Chartered laundering money for Iran. And President Obama's regulators are angry at the New York regulators about it. Can you guess why?
...
So why are the Feds angry? Wasn't the point of the Iran sanctions supposed to be 'name and shame'? Of course: The New York action might interfere with President Hussein Obama's reelection bid.
...
What could go wrong?
Labels: Barack Hussein Obama, Campaign 2012, Iran sanctions regime, money laundering...
From former Lizard and wingnut, Israel Matzav.
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Gus Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:31:21am |
re: #617 Millicent Islam
You called it the Democrat party. :(
Hope you're doing well Gus! Just sent you an email.
I'm OK. Got up late for certain reasons. :) Will check email again in a bit. Another hot one! Back to radio silence on my personal life -- wink, wink, nudge, nudge.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:31:33am |
This weekend, tragedy struck in Wisconsin as a stupid, hateful gunman targeted a Sikh temple just before Sunday services, killing half a dozen people before being shot himself. And in response, Mitt Romney, Presidential candidate, possible future leader of the entire free world, extended his heartfelt condolences to those poor "sheikhs." Jesus Lawrence of Arabia Christ.Here's his entire jaw-droppingly awful gaffe, which The New Statesman calls his worst yet in a "competitive field of gaffes"
Yeah, I think a future POTUS should have gotten this right. This is a Bush II inability to articulate.
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AK-47% Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:32:01am |
re: #622 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance
Mitt Romney can't even visit a farm without being out of touch
This is the agricultural equivalent of Dukakis driving a tank...
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:33:15am |
re: #628 Expand Your Ground
yeah but they didn't let Mitt drive a tractor...probably a good thing.
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iossarian Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:33:30am |
re: #628 Expand Your Ground
This is the agricultural equivalent of Dukakis driving a tank...
Some of my best friends are farmers owners of multinational agricultural conglomerates!
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Only The Lurker Knows Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:33:37am |
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:34:29am |
shorter Romney Adviser: INCONCEIVABLE!
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Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:34:43am |
re: #589 Gus
Thunderf00t being a douche:
[Embedded content]
Saw that coming. Never liked the guy.
MY reply to his latest video on the subject...
I do not give a shit what your argument with PZ and FTB is, it does not justify your spreading confidential Docs posted by people who were assured of them being private. I'm sure punishing them with your childish tit for tat, "you hurt me so now I'll hurt you" response is quite satisfying, but that does not make it right however. Strange but in your videos you actually appear and sound as though you are older than five, now maybe if your actions could match your apparent age we could believe it?
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:34:46am |
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Kragar Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:35:15am |
USDA estimates of corn and soybean production drop as drought takes its toll on farmers
The U.S. Agriculture Department cut its projected U.S. corn production to 10.8 billion bushels, down 17 percent from its forecast last month of nearly 13 billion bushels and 13 percent less than last year. That also would be the lowest production since 2006.
The USDA, in its World Agricultural Supply and Demand Estimates report, now expects corn growers to average 123.4 bushels per acre, down 24 bushels from last year in what would be the lowest average yield in 17 years.
Soybean production is now forecast at 2.69 billion bushels, a 12 percent decline from last year and well off the 3.05 billion bushels the USDA had expected last month. The expected average yield of 36.1 bushels per acre would be the lowest since 2003.
Corn farmers had expected a record year just months ago, when they sowed 96.4 million acres — the most since 1937. The USDA now predicts only 87.4 million acres will be harvested, although it notes the crop still could be the eighth-biggest in U.S. history.
On Thursday, the U.N. food agency drew a direct correlation between price hikes in basic food commodities and the months of parched conditions in farm states. The Rome-based Food and Agriculture Organization said in its monthly price report that its overall food price index climbed 6 percentage points in July, although it was well below the peak reached in February 2011. The FAO’s index, considered a global benchmark used to track market volatility and price trends, measures the monthly price changes for a basket of food, including cereals, oils and fats, meat, dairy products and sugar.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:35:37am |
re: #588 NJDhockeyfan
"They were all men in their thirties with reportedly Arab features. "
So, probably not Vietnamese mercs. That narrows things down.
//
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Gus Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:35:40am |
re: #624 iossarian
It's not just that. Oliver North's a frickin' right wing hero to this day, and yet it's all "you can't sell illegal weapons to Iran, that would be baaaad".
And again. Any administration would be angry with the actions that Benjamin Lawsky took since they like to keep these kinds of investigations under lock and key and in complete control under the name of national security and the war on terror. It's bullshit to say there was a freaking "cover up" since that's the way the government always operates. Regardless of who is in the White House: Republican or Democrat.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:35:51am |
re: #636 Kragar
Yup --we are going to be able to watch prices rise in real time soon!
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Lidane Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:36:18am |
re: #600 iossarian
Do you know your gettext?
[Link: translationproject.org...]
That is probably the single largest translation project (or meta-project) out there, so probably good to have a reasonable understanding of it.
Ooh. Thanks for this! I hadn't heard of it, but I've got it bookmarked and will be studying it for sure. My interview is next Thursday so I'll be spending the next few days giving myself a crash course in both internationalization and localization for software. From what I understand, it's rare for their sales people to really know or understand it, so I figure that having a base of understanding will help me.
I'm not a coder or anything, but at least being able to talk about the processes will be good, I think.
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Sheila Broflovski Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:36:30am |
re: #636 Kragar
USDA estimates of corn and soybean production drop as drought takes its toll on farmers
Please tell me they are not still producing ethanol.
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AK-47% Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:36:54am |
re: #630 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance
yeah but they didn't let Mitt drive a tractor...probably a good thing.
Especially the photos of his dog strapped to the roof...
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Lidane Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:38:05am |
re: #602 Learned Mother of Zion
Localization tools determine the native language and country of origin of the user, and renders the browser accordingly. It means that if you have a multinational user base, you have to customize your product for every language and cultural group.
Are there any sites/blogs/books/etc. that you know of that really go into the process of localization, or which dig a bit deeper? I've got a few days and a lot of time on my hands before this interview. I want to know more so I can get this job. I'm tired of being unemployed. :)
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:38:47am |
re: #643 Lidane
Are there any sites/blogs/books/etc. that you know of that really go into the process of localization, or which dig a bit deeper? I've got a few days and a lot of time on my hands before this interview. I want to know more so I can get this job. I'm tired of being unemployed. :)
((((Lidane))))
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:39:09am |
re: #632 Bubblehead II
Here it is.
If only there were some sort of step that the US and Mexican governments could take that could eliminate the black market and its attendant profit motive.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:39:15am |
re: #596 Killgore Trout
I'm not sure how to interpret that. Might that mean they weren't Bedouin?
Bedouin are ethnic Arabs. I'm not really sure what that detail is meant to convey. Perhaps they thought it might have been African migrants who somehow armed themselves to the teeth and decided to attack the Egyptian army, instead of taking advantage of Ramadan to keep moving through the desert to Israel? That seems far-fetched, and is the only thing that comes to mind.
Nu, someone will point it out, and I'll feel stupid.
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Kragar Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:39:17am |
re: #641 Learned Mother of Zion
Please tell me they are not still producing ethanol.
Why do you hate the Free Market?
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lawhawk Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:40:14am |
re: #636 Kragar
And how many of those states affected are going to encourage their farmers to seek federal disaster aid to offset drought losses?
These:
[Link: www.usda.gov...]
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Kragar Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:40:15am |
In Light Of GOP’s Muslim Hunt, Colbert Calls Gingrich A ‘Baby-Eating Werewolf’
Newt Gingrich this week went on CNN to defend Bachmann’s crusade, telling Wolf Blitzer that it’s worth investigating because, well, something might turn up.
“It takes a brave man to randomly accuse someone of something horrible based on no evidence, and then demand they refute the evidence you don’t have,” Colbert said. “So tonight I am accusing Newt Gingrich of being a baby-eating werewolf.”
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:40:17am |
re: #645 What Would Spalding Gray Do?
If only there were some sort of step that the US and Mexican governments could take that could eliminate the black market and its attendant profit motive.
hmmmm! You know, that is a great idea --any one else been working on that?
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iossarian Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:43:10am |
re: #648 lawhawk
And how many of those states affected are going to encourage their farmers to seek federal disaster aid to offset drought losses?
These:
[Link: www.usda.gov...]
Why, that map reminds me of... no - can't quite put my finger on it.
Seriously, good luck to the small farmers who will need the money, and a big fat screw you to the agribusiness tycoons who will just use this as another opportunity to suck some cash out of the public domain.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:45:18am |
re: #589 Gus
Thunderf00t being a douche:
[Embedded content]
Saw that coming. Never liked the guy.
That whole stupid drama has caused me to seriously lose respect for everyone who keeps insinuating themselves into it, regardless of what "side" they're on. I somehow thought PZ would be "above it all" and tire of it eventually, but sadly no.
More dick-waving than a Ron Jeremy video.
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Sheila Broflovski Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:47:18am |
Also, pretty funny how begrudging this Times story is in describing what was an act of decency by Romney: nytimes.com/2012/08/10/us/...— Josh Greenman (@joshgreenman) August 10, 2012
Wow, Mitt takes $600/month from a poor family, for "saving" their house from foreclosure.
Ain't that white of him.
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Gus Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:47:25am |
re: #653 What Would Spalding Gray Do?
That whole stupid drama has caused me to seriously lose respect for everyone who keeps insinuating themselves into it, regardless of what "side" they're on. I somehow thought PZ would be "above it all" and tire of it eventually, but sadly no.
More dick-waving than a Ron Jeremy video.
Yeah. I was never big on pecking order crap.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:47:25am |
re: #643 Lidane
Are there any sites/blogs/books/etc. that you know of that really go into the process of localization, or which dig a bit deeper? I've got a few days and a lot of time on my hands before this interview. I want to know more so I can get this job. I'm tired of being unemployed. :)
Best example I encountered was Google. A link to [Link: www.google.com...] from my laptop was figuring out that my connection was coming from San Paolo and was defaulting me into Brazilian Google based in Portugeuse. I could change my proxy server setting to use a US-based connection and the same link would bring up Google in English.
SAP does a lot of its language stuff the hard way - via the files. Most of the data and description files carry key fields indicating what language the text is supposed to be in, and the reports and user account defaults can indicate what language to use when running things for the user so that a core piece of data can come up in different formatting or language for different users.
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Kragar Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:48:08am |
Another day, another steaming pile of BS from Romney
New Romney Campaign Distortion: Falsely Claims Obama ‘Promised Today To Bail Out Every Industry’
The Romney campaign, which has apparently exhausted the selectively edited clip of President Obama saying “you didn’t build that,” has seized on a new soundbite to distort. The campaign sent an email blast Thursday afternoon featuring a video of an Obama rally in Colorado from earlier that day and falsely claimed that he wants the government to bail out every industry. “I Want To Do The Same Thing With Manufacturing Jobs … In Every Industry,” it read.
The distortion comes from Obama’s speech in Pueblo, Colorado, touting his administration’s successful revival of the auto industry, which came back from the brink of collapse to add thousands of jobs and is now poised for its strongest sales since 2007. Obama said he wanted to help other flagging industries experience the same kind of success. Conservatives, however, are using the clip to make it sound like Obama wants to bail out every industry.
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Gus Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:48:28am |
Romney Visits Iowa 'Farmer' Who Is Also A Millionaire Real Estate Mogul With A Spaceship House And Personal Car Wash clmpr.gs/Qlh23n— Shayne (@Zoocritter) August 10, 2012
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Interesting Times Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:48:31am |
File under schadenfreude:
Rush Limbaugh Show is on Clear Channel. Their parent company posts $39 million 2Q loss bizjournals.com/sanantonio/new... via @sabizjournal #StopRush— carolkili (@carolkili) August 2, 2012
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iossarian Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:50:46am |
re: #656 Learned Mother of Zion
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Wow, Mitt takes $600/month from a poor family, for "saving" their house from foreclosure.
Ain't that white of him.
That article suggests that the mortgage is worth $50.5K and that the annual interest is $2.5K, which is a hair under 5%, right?
So Mitt made a couple of mortgage deals at prevailing rates and this makes him a big hero now?
I guess when you've got nothing else to run on, being an unremarkable small-time businessman is where it's at.
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Kragar Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:51:02am |
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danarchy Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:51:41am |
re: #628 Expand Your Ground
This is the agricultural equivalent of Dukakis driving a tank...
Not quite, Romney would have to have been wearing overalls and a straw hat and driving a harvester or something.
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Only The Lurker Knows Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:51:48am |
re: #636 Kragar
Was watching/listening to todays W.H. presser. One of the questions asked was if the drought will have any impact on the ethanol requirements in gasoline. Carney told the reporter that he would have to check with the USDA and EPA for info regarding that.
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The Left Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:52:12am |
re: #661 Interesting Times
File under schadenfreude:
[Embedded content]
Anything about Rush automatically gets cross referenced under "Shady Fraud".
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Gus Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:52:30am |
re: #663 Kragar
Pecking order?
That reminds me...
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...
Alpha males can never get a break man! All women want these days is beta males in this feminized culture.
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Gus Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:53:00am |
Catholic Nuns Send Letter To Romney Challenging His 'Woeful Lack Of Knowledge' About The Poor tinyurl.com/9s3bfy6 #p2— CaptivatingNews (@CaptivatingNews) August 10, 2012
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Sheila Broflovski Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:53:48am |
re: #662 iossarian
That article suggests that the mortgage is worth $50.5K and that the annual interest is $2.5K, which is a hair under 5%, right?
So Mitt made a couple of mortgage deals at prevailing rates and this makes him a big hero now?
I guess when you've got nothing else to run on, being an unremarkable small-time businessman is where it's at.
According to the article, Mitt bought some properties and then was left holding the bag when the housing market turned upside down. He couldn't sell the properties so he rented them out, and then he sold one of the properties to the tenants, so they pay him a $600/month mortgage payment in exchange for him not throwing them out on the street.
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Only The Lurker Knows Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:53:51am |
re: #641 Learned Mother of Zion
They are. Federal requirement that all gasoline blends have at least 10% ethanol
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:54:26am |
re: #625 Gus
For example:
Charles Johnson - Little Green Footballs
littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/weblog.php 15 hours ago – Gus For example: US regulators angry at New York over Standard Chartered, afraid it will interfere with Obama's reelection bid [wingnut]Of ...
Did we just go through a time warp?
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Gus Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:56:15am |
re: #672 NJDhockeyfan
Did we just go through a time warp?
Looks like it. What is that extra text from?
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iossarian Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:56:21am |
re: #669 Learned Mother of Zion
According to the article, Mitt bought some properties and then was left holding the bag when the housing market turned upside down. He couldn't sell the properties so he rented them out, and then he sold one of the properties to the tenants, so they pay him a $600/month mortgage payment in exchange for him not throwing them out on the street.
Right, he basically made a business deal with them.
I'm just not getting what it's meant to illustrate about him. That he is able to make the same kind of investments that other fairly well-off Americans have made?
Anyway, it's funny to think what the right wing would say if Obama owned a row of townhouses on the South Side and collected rent from them.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:56:34am |
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funky chicken Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:57:40am |
re: #464 NJDhockeyfan
Netanyahu and Barak said to be pushing for an Iran strike this fall
If the Israelis want to go to war with Iran, well, that's their decision. But I don't want us involved.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:58:21am |
Dallas county declares state of emergency over West Nile virus
I don't know very much (read: anything) about urban mosquito control, but are huge spraying programs really effective? Seems to me that only serves to put a lot of pesticides into the environment and kill beneficial insects (and the birds that eat them).
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Gus Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:58:29am |
Catholic Nuns Send Letter To Romney Challenging His ‘Woeful Lack Of Knowledge’ About The Poor
We are deeply troubled by your campaign’s recent advertisements and statements about welfare, which we believe demonize the families we serve and reflect a woeful lack of knowledge about the challenges faced by tens of millions of Americans. By accepting our invitation, we hope that you will have the opportunity to see firsthand the struggles of those in need and have the compassion to desist your campaign’s harsh attacks.
We are all God’s children and equal in God’s eyes. Efforts to divide us by class or score political points at the expense of the most vulnerable of our brothers and sisters reveal the worst side of our country’s politics. Please accept our invitation to witness and to serve.
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Only The Lurker Knows Fri, Aug 10, 2012 10:59:39am |
re: #652 Gus
Loved the ending. "I think he stole my birth control too"
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Kragar Fri, Aug 10, 2012 11:00:10am |
Man, I forgot what a good album this was...
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Aug 10, 2012 11:02:09am |
re: #678 Gus
Catholic Nuns Send Letter To Romney Challenging His ‘Woeful Lack Of Knowledge’ About The Poor
I'm tellin' ya' --it's not a good idea to mess with Nuns.
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Kragar Fri, Aug 10, 2012 11:03:08am |
Another Blatantly False Claim From The Washington Post’s Jennifer Rubin
The Washington Post’s Jennifer Rubin, recently under fire for making stuff up about realist foreign policy hand Robert Zoellick, has another whopper today. In a piece helpfully explaining to the Romney campaign “how to counterattack Obama” — an interesting exercise for a journalist actually covering a campaign to engage in, when you think about it — Rubin writes that President Obama “wanted to force a mosque on the ashes of Ground Zero.”
The David Barton school of Journalism, I see.
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Gus Fri, Aug 10, 2012 11:03:32am |
re: #681 ggt
I'm tellin' ya' --it's not a good idea to mess with Nuns.
Yep. Do something wrong and you get whacked across the hand with a ruler!
//
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Gus Fri, Aug 10, 2012 11:04:25am |
Oh buoy.
Fox News planning World War Three John Madden-style.twitpic.com/ahs9zq— Andrew Kaczynski (@BuzzFeedAndrew) August 10, 2012
| 685 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Aug 10, 2012 11:04:32am |
re: #683 Gus
Yep. Do something wrong and you get whacked across the hand with a ruler!
//
They have some pull with the doler of karmic retribution. I don't really understand how it all works.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Aug 10, 2012 11:04:38am |
re: #673 Gus
Looks like it. What is that extra text from?
I copied it right off the google search link you posted.
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Gus Fri, Aug 10, 2012 11:06:14am |
re: #686 NJDhockeyfan
I copied it right off the google search link you posted.
Oh. That was just a search for the title of that page. It wasn't cached yet so I typically just add a Google search with the title.
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Gus Fri, Aug 10, 2012 11:06:54am |
re: #685 ggt
They have some pull with the doler of karmic retribution. I don't really understand how it all works.
If you really screw up then they work their way up to the yard stick.
//
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lawhawk Fri, Aug 10, 2012 11:07:48am |
re: #682 Kragar
If by force you mean adhere and uphold the First Amendment? Or to impose Sharia compliant law to demand construction of a still-to-be-built mosque (it's still awaiting the financing to build). You'd think that if the backers of the project were so tight with the Muslim money-makers (or President Obama), that they'd have gotten this going by now. They couldn't even win a decision on rents against Con Ed.
The building still looks as it did when this whole thing boiled over. And 1WTC towers over everything else in the City - and casts a long shadow too.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Fri, Aug 10, 2012 11:09:29am |
re: #680 Kragar
Man, I forgot what a good album this was...
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On an obliquely related note, I tragically messed up and missed out on the opportunity to see IRON - EFFIN' - MAIDEN a week from today in my fair cowboy-type area. It's slightly odd to realize that they're pretty much senior citizens these days, but everything I've read about this tour indicates that it shouldn't be missed by people who enjoy that sort of thing. And I'm going to miss it. Le sigh.
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ShaunP Fri, Aug 10, 2012 11:09:54am |
re: #677 What Would Spalding Gray Do?
Dallas county declares state of emergency over West Nile virus
I don't know very much (read: anything) about urban mosquito control, but are huge spraying programs really effective? Seems to me that only serves to put a lot of pesticides into the environment and kill beneficial insects (and the birds that eat them).
Spraying is extremely effective. Just heard a program yesterday on our local NPR affiliate about how, if not for the mosquito management department in the FL Keys, they'd be pretty much unlivable. One of the biggest parts of the county budget is mosquito control and it's the only thing people don't complain about when taxes go up...
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Kragar Fri, Aug 10, 2012 11:10:01am |
Republican Congressman Calls For Total Ban On Morning-After Pill
HOST: I wanted to get to the actual morning-after pill. So are you saying that you would like that to be banned for everyone, or do you have exceptions for rape and incest?
AKIN: As far as I’m concerned, the morning-after pill is a form of abortion, and I think we shouldn’t have abortion in this country. [...] The life of the mother, the situation there is one where what you want to do is optimize life, you try to save the mother’s life, you try to save the child. [...]
HOST: Just to be clear, though, you would like to ban the morning after pill totally for everyone?
AKIN: Yeah. I think that is a form of abortion and I don’t support it.
Someone should let Akin know thinking isn't his strong point.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Aug 10, 2012 11:10:21am |
Man faces weapons charges in Batman theater incident
(CNN) -- A man faces weapons charges after authorities say he went to an Ohio movie theater showing the latest Batman movie armed with a gun, ammunition and knives.
...According to DiSanto, Smith was the first to arrive, 30 minutes before the movie's start, and took a seat in the back row, directly in the middle, with his back to a wall. A manager at the theater and an off-duty police officer grew suspicious of where he sat, and they noticed the bag Smith was carrying.
They asked to search the bag, DiSanto said, and inside found a loaded 9 mm semiautomatic handgun, two loaded magazine clips and three knives. Police said Smith was carrying another knife on his person.
Smith told the off-duty officer he was carrying the gun and knives for protection, to protect himself and other moviegoers, said police, who took him into custody. A search of Smith's home turned up more weapons, including rifles, shotguns and survivalist gear.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Fri, Aug 10, 2012 11:11:37am |
re: #684 Gus
Oh buoy.
[Embedded content]
I was immediately distracted by this:
Synchronized swimming at the Olympics is like every nightmare you have ever had.
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Gus Fri, Aug 10, 2012 11:12:33am |
Good times...
“Not Be Prudent”: Obama Orders Joint Chiefs Chairman To Publicly Argue Against Attack On Iran, Defend Iran As “Rational Actor” – First Stop: Anti-U.S. Operative Fareed Zakaria’s CNN Show
Dempsey is a Leftist who was carefully hand-picked by anti-Israel Obama for the job. From WAPO: “His outlook, however, reflects the viewpoint of Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates, who has complained that the Pentagon tends to focus on preparing for the next war, a condition he termed “nexwaritis.” Obama chose him over a Marine, General Cartwright.
You’ll also note that Obama clearly personally chose his friend and much-favored anti-US operative Fareed Zakaria for General Choad to deliver this message to. Fareed is the author of the anti-US book “The Post-American World”, an Obama favorite, which you can see him here toting...
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Aug 10, 2012 11:12:41am |
re: #693 Kragar
Republican Congressman Calls For Total Ban On Morning-After Pill
Someone should let Akin know thinking isn't his strong point.
Of course, this wouldn't apply to his mistress . . .
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Kragar Fri, Aug 10, 2012 11:13:42am |
re: #691 What Would Spalding Gray Do?
On an obliquely related note, I tragically messed up and missed out on the opportunity to see IRON - EFFIN' - MAIDEN a week from today in my fair cowboy-type area. It's slightly odd to realize that they're pretty much senior citizens these days, but everything I've read about this tour indicates that it shouldn't be missed by people who enjoy that sort of thing. And I'm going to miss it. Le sigh.
They're playing tonight up in Irvine, but I couldn't work my schedule to let me get up there.
I saw them a few years back with Motorhead and Dio, still fucking awesome.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Aug 10, 2012 11:14:17am |
re: #694 NJDhockeyfan
He was apparently also carrying first aid equipment. You have to admire a man who thinks of going to the movies as a combat situation, but goes anyway.
/
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makeitstop Fri, Aug 10, 2012 11:14:55am |
This is what's going on just to the south of my house...
Tornado warnings popping up all over the place here. Color me nervous.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Aug 10, 2012 11:15:38am |
re: #701 makeitstop
This is what's going on just to the south of my house...
Tornado warnings popping up all over the place here. Color me nervous.
oh!
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Sheila Broflovski Fri, Aug 10, 2012 11:15:42am |
re: #701 makeitstop
This is what's going on just to the south of my house...
Tornado warnings popping up all over the place here. Color me nervous.
Stay safe.
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Gus Fri, Aug 10, 2012 11:18:11am |
Clunk...
"I feel very badly that Mitt won't release his taxes and won't be fair with the American people" -- Jon Huntsman Sr. thkpr.gs/NRAnZ8— ThinkProgress (@thinkprogress) August 10, 2012
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Kragar Fri, Aug 10, 2012 11:19:03am |
Buster Wilson Warns 'Big Gay' Activists That They Are Destined for Hell
Tell you what Buster. Why don't you shut the fuck up and if you're right, you can totally deserve to have a big shit-eating grin as you strut around heaven telling your buddies "I told them so." In the meantime, go fuck yourself.
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Kragar Fri, Aug 10, 2012 11:19:38am |
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Gus Fri, Aug 10, 2012 11:20:58am |
re: #706 Kragar
So are Rush and Coulter going to go apeshit again?
...
“I feel very badly that Mitt won’t release his taxes and won’t be fair with the American people,” Huntsman told me. In a reference to Romney’s father, who pioneered the release of returns as a presidential candidate, Huntsman said: “I loved George. He always said, pay your taxes for at least 10 or 12 years.”
“Mr. Romney ought to square with the American people and release his taxes like any other candidate,” Huntsman said. “I’ve supported Mitt all along. I wish him well. But I do think he should release his income taxes.”
From Jon Huntsman Sr., longtime Romney backer, calls on him to release tax returns - By Greg Sargent
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Lidane Fri, Aug 10, 2012 11:21:31am |
re: #693 Kragar
Republican Congressman Calls For Total Ban On Morning-After Pill
Someone should let Akin know thinking isn't his strong point.
Related:
GOP Senate Candidate Linked To Controversial ‘Christian Supremacist’ Group
GOP Representative and Missouri Senate Candidate Todd Akin has a long history of extremism, particularly with respect to the role of religion in public life. As it turns out, that shouldn’t be much of a suprise: one of Akin’s principal political influences appears to be Reverend D. James Kennedy, a minister who spent his life organizing a movement dedicated to reorganizing the American government along radically conservative evangelical lines.
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Kragar Fri, Aug 10, 2012 11:22:07am |
Man, I FUCKING WANT TO SEE MAIDEN AGAIN
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Gus Fri, Aug 10, 2012 11:22:19am |
Ohio Limits Early Voting Hours In Democratic Counties, Expands In Republican Counties tinyurl.com/8l6wwrb #p2— CaptivatingNews (@CaptivatingNews) August 10, 2012
Conspiracy. //
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Kragar Fri, Aug 10, 2012 11:23:36am |
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AK-47% Fri, Aug 10, 2012 11:23:40am |
re: #694 NJDhockeyfan
I remember an op-ed from Ted Nugent about how the Aurora massacre could've been prevented if someone in the audience had been prepared and properly armed....
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dragonath Fri, Aug 10, 2012 11:24:46am |
re: #704 Gus
Clunk...
[Embedded content]
Kos was speculating that Huntsman Sr. was the "source" for Reid's claim.
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Gus Fri, Aug 10, 2012 11:25:16am |
re: #711 Lidane
*sigh*
Romney Claims Obama Has ‘Already Taken Over’ The Energy Industry
Romney going rogue wingnut. Again.
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Kragar Fri, Aug 10, 2012 11:25:57am |
Iron Maiden from 1982 - The Prisoner
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AK-47% Fri, Aug 10, 2012 11:26:01am |
re: #711 Lidane
*sigh*
Romney Claims Obama Has ‘Already Taken Over’ The Energy Industry
The Energy Industry is the one that is supposed to be able to take over the government...
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Gus Fri, Aug 10, 2012 11:26:18am |
re: #716 Fred Galt
Kos was speculating that Huntsman Sr. was the "source" for Reid's claim.
From the WAPO piece:
But Huntsman adamantly denied discussing Romney’s returns with Reid, and said he knew nothing about them.
“That’s absolutely false,” Huntsman said of the speculation. “I have absolutely no knowledge of Bain or Mitt Romney’s tax returns.”
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Eventual Carrion Fri, Aug 10, 2012 11:26:55am |
re: #694 NJDhockeyfan
He was going to be the hero if shit went down, huh? Whip out the 9 and start squeezing 'em off. Might increment the body count by one of two, but damnit there will be justice? Dude should have dressed in a batman costume if he was going to be the good guy.
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Aye Pod Fri, Aug 10, 2012 11:28:33am |
re: #704 Gus
Clunk...
[Embedded content]
When everyone else in the country has released their tax returns, their spouses tax returns, their medical records, their college transcripts. then maybe he'll think about it.
I'm convinced this guy has no dirt on him at all///
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jaunte Fri, Aug 10, 2012 11:28:36am |
re: #711 Lidane
Politifact will rate this as 'Partly True' because, you know, gubmint regulation.
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Gus Fri, Aug 10, 2012 11:28:43am |
I think Huntsman wins the internet this morning. We'll see how this develops but it's already spreading pretty fast.
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funky chicken Fri, Aug 10, 2012 11:34:15am |
re: #677 What Would Spalding Gray Do?
Dallas county declares state of emergency over West Nile virus
I don't know very much (read: anything) about urban mosquito control, but are huge spraying programs really effective? Seems to me that only serves to put a lot of pesticides into the environment and kill beneficial insects (and the birds that eat them).
Municipal spraying is very effective mosquito and disease control. Cities have gotten away from it because it's expensive and people have forgotten what it used to be like when there was even malaria and other mosquito-borne illnesses here. It's kind of like the herd immunity from vaccination--mosquito eradication efforts were so successful people stopped valuing them because they never saw the risk of discontinuing the spraying.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Aug 10, 2012 11:36:23am |
Pro-Palestinian site publishes what it says are 100 Israeli pilots’ names and ID details
A pro-Palestinian website has published what it says are the names of and information about 100 Israeli Air Force pilots, and says it may be possible to use the data to bring them to justice for alleged war crimes.
News of the publication of the purported pilots’ names, birth dates, ranks and ID numbers was prominently reported in Israel on Thursday evening, making the lead story on the Channel 10 nightly news.
The organization describes itself as supporting “in particular” the right of Palestinians to “unfettered access to all of Palestine.” It is currently raising funds for a new flotilla to break Israel’s sea blockade of Gaza.
...The California-based organization describes itself as an NGO “accredited” to the United Nations and a non-violent organization whose objective is “to challenge Israeli policies and actions that deny Palestinians their human rights, and in particular the right of unfettered access to all of Palestine.”
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Killgore Trout Fri, Aug 10, 2012 11:41:48am |
re: #726 NJDhockeyfan
Pro-Palestinian site publishes what it says are 100 Israeli pilots’ names and ID details
What a bunch of dicks.
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Daniel Ballard Fri, Aug 10, 2012 11:41:52am |
Awesome?
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Only The Lurker Knows Fri, Aug 10, 2012 11:42:47am |
re: #719 Expand Your Ground
The Energy Industry is the one that is supposed to be able to take over the government...
I thought it was the Phone Company.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Aug 10, 2012 11:46:30am |
re: #727 Killgore Trout
What a bunch of dicks.
The site’s co-founder told The Times of Israel on Thursday that his organization did not have any specific objective in mind when it published the material. It was meant for “informational purposes only” so others can take action against the pilots.
I wonder what kinds of actions they expect 'others' will do to those pilots?
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engineer cat Fri, Aug 10, 2012 11:46:36am |
re: #694 NJDhockeyfan
this is actually one of two such incidents
when gun owners attempt to put the NRA self protection wild west style scenario into action, they get arrested for being vigilantes
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CuriousLurker Fri, Aug 10, 2012 11:53:59am |
re: #724 Gus
I think Huntsman wins the internet this morning. We'll see how this develops but it's already spreading pretty fast.
I'm late to the thread as usual, but I was wondering the other day if perhaps since Reid & Romney are both Mormon, it was a fellow Mormon that was Reid's source (assuming he's telling the truth).
Mormons are as human as the rest of us, so there are bound to be rivalries within the community, not to mention enemies made while doing business. There are quite a few big companies founded, owned, and/or run by Mormons.
There articles may also be of interest:
The Mormon way of business - The Economist, May 5, 2012
How the Mormons Make Money - Bloomberg Business Week, July 18,2012
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Daniel Ballard Fri, Aug 10, 2012 11:58:41am |
re: #721 RayFerd
I was looking at CCW numbers for Colorado. I feel it's likely there were armed men (I think 1 up to to 3 with a CCW) in that crowd, who wisely ran for it rather than engage in a darkened crowded room. Extra kudos for keeping their mouths shut too. 1 person out of 500 just might have had a gun.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Aug 10, 2012 12:02:20pm |
re: #705 Kragar
Buster Wilson Warns 'Big Gay' Activists That They Are Destined for Hell
Tell you what Buster. Why don't you shut the fuck up and if you're right, you can totally deserve to have a big shit-eating grin as you strut around heaven telling your buddies "I told them so." In the meantime, go fuck yourself.
How about petite gay activists? My friend Mirele is only about five feet tall.
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Daniel Ballard Fri, Aug 10, 2012 12:04:23pm |
Paging Curious Lurker...
Do you recall liking this little craft art thing?
During our trip to Arizona, we happened to pick up a spare.
Drop me an email?
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CuriousLurker Fri, Aug 10, 2012 12:08:13pm |
re: #735 Daniel Ballard
Ha! Believe it or not, I looked up those photos again just last weekend because I remembered the ant and wanted to try to recreate it.
I'll send you an email in a bit.
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A Mom Anon Fri, Aug 10, 2012 12:22:18pm |
re: #691 What Would Spalding Gray Do?
The husband and the son went to see them when they were in Atlanta, my son was so stoked for days before and after. Husband said the crowd was about half and half old and young. And the show was Teh Awesome,of course.
I'm not a huge metal fan,but I used metal music to desensitize my son to loud noises as part of his sensory integration therapy as a kid.He has Asperger Syndrome,loud noises and crowds used to scare the shit out of him. Now he plays a little bit of guitar and drums and LOVES him some metal,loves concerts. All I know is it worked,but it was a long,long process.If someone had told me he'd love heavy metal and rock when he was 5 I would have laughed at them. Now he's a head banging fool,lol.
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