Romney: Let’s Agree That Everything I’ve Ever Done in My Life Up to This Point Is Off the Table

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Mitt Romney is whining that the President is being mean to him with personal attack ads, and he’d like to make some ground rules: all criticism of his business dealings and finances should be off the table.

You almost have to laugh at Willard’s sheer hubris.

This is business not personal: Romney also said in the interview he would like a pledge (of sorts) with Obama that there be no “personal” attack ads. “[O]ur campaign would be — helped immensely if we had an agreement between both campaigns that we were only going to talk about issues and that attacks based upon — business or family or taxes or things of that nature.” (Question: Is Romney really saying that scrutinizing his business record — which he has held up as one of his chief qualifications to be president — is personal? But we digress. …) He continued: “[W]e only talk about issues. And we can talk about the differences between our positions and our opponent’s position.” Romney said of his own campaign: “[O]ur ads haven’t gone after the president personally. … [W]e haven’t dredged up the old stuff that people talked about last time around. We haven’t gone after the personal things.” That doesn’t mean surrogates or Super PACs have, as was brought up to him. Bottom line, obviously, this negative stuff is getting to Romney or he wouldn’t have said this. Campaigns that are winning never complain about the tone of the campaign (although Obama certainly laments “crazy” things outside groups say — more on that below).

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159 comments
1 prairiefire  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 3:36:12pm

I do laugh at his hubris hooby doo. Happy Friday, lizards!

2 erik_t  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 3:36:23pm

Yet, curiously, misleading personal attacks are literally the only thing Romney has touched on in any advertisement, primary or general, this cycle. The only thing.

3 Lidane  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 3:42:06pm

OK. So let me see if I have this straight:

Mitt Romney is running for POTUS on the strength of his business experience and his governance in MA, only without ever bringing up his actual policies from MA, including his signature health care plan which Obama implemented nationally.

Now, he wants to take all of his business dealings and his taxes off the table, and he can't actually talk positively about anything he did as governor because that pisses off the GOP base he needs to win. So why is he running for POTUS again?

4 andres  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 3:43:03pm

re: #3 Lidane

Because he deserves it!

//

5 Sheila Broflovski  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 3:46:55pm

I'm sure that Mitt & his supporters will continue to harp on Obama's college transcripts, birth certificate, graduate thesis, passport stamps, vaccinations and choice of personal adornment.

6 Greup  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 3:47:55pm

When you ask for mercy from your opponent you just lost the election, i think
Next line of attack- if you cant defend your platform in the US -how will you stand up to putin....

7 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 3:48:50pm

re: #3 Lidane

OK. So let me see if I have this straight:

Mitt Romney is running for POTUS on the strength of his business experience and his governance in MA, only without ever bringing up his actual policies from MA, including his signature health care plan which Obama implemented nationally.

Now, he wants to take all of his business dealings and his taxes off the table, and he can't actually talk positively about anything he did as governor because that pisses off the GOP base he needs to win. So why is he running for POTUS again?

Because Obama is black.

8 Only The Lurker Knows  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 3:49:45pm

re: #3 Lidane

"So why is he running for POTUS again?"

Because He wants to be the CEO of the biggest Corporation in the world so he can fix all its problems by down sizing and selling off all those unprofitable assets like the EPA, DOE, DOJ and any State that consumes more Federal dollars than they generate?

9 makeitstop  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 3:50:13pm

This guy is going to be toast by the end of the Dem convention.

He expected a cakewalk, and he didn't expect Team Obama to punch back.

He. Can't. Handle. It. Not presidential material. At all.

10 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 3:51:01pm

My alcoholic train wreck of a half brother is being transported in an ambulance to Houston for acute spinal osteomyelitis. He's on SSD for his back so he get's monthly disability payments but he's still in his 2 year waiting period before insurance coverage kicks in. Because he wanted to live on his own and drink all the time he refused to purchase PCIP insurance to cover him in the meantime. Now he's going to drive up medical costs across the entire western hemisphere.

11 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 3:51:33pm

I'm still laughing at the "Farmer" he visited today.

Oh, and my Orange County Conservative co-worker said that Romney is too out of touch with people.

It's sticking Mitty. Show your tax returns.

12 Obdicut  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 3:54:51pm

He's trying to run on the abstraction of conservative policy. Mainly because actual examples of 'conservative' policy lately are few and far between. And examples of it working are even fewer. And Romney was involved in none of them.

13 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 3:55:19pm

re: #10 goddamnedfrank

My alcoholic train wreck of a half brother is being transported in an ambulance to Houston for acute spinal osteomyelitis. He's on SSD for his back so he get's monthly disability payments but he's still in his 2 year waiting period before insurance coverage kicks in. Because he wanted to live on his own and drink all the time he refused to purchase PCIP insurance to cover him in the meantime. Now he's going to drive up medical costs across the entire western hemisphere.

Sad news.

14 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 3:58:38pm

re: #11 Stanley Sea

New GOP meme-If the Mitt doesn't fit we must remit. LOL
Sure would be interesting if Mitt goes to the convention as the candidate and goes home a businessman again.

15 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 3:58:40pm

Can I have some cheese with that whine Willard? If you didn't think that your business experience would become an issue (that you brought up btw by mentioning it as a key reason to be president over Obama), then you weren't paying attention to politics for the last 30 years. Everything you've ever claimed to have done or touted is fair game. Your business success? That's fair game. How you made your fortune? Fair game.

I have no problem with wanting to shield your wife and kids - that's not fair game and shouldn't ever be part of it.

It's funny to watch him claim that his record is off limits, all while the right wing (with a wink and nod from Romney's campaign) is gone off the rails in conspiracy paranoia with attacks on the President and the First Lady. [added - Moreover, Romney's producing a nonstop amount of lies about Obama's record and positions to boot]

16 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 3:59:10pm

All the government had to do was automatically deduct PCIP premiums from the first two years of SSD payments. Kind of fucking obvious when you think about it. I don't blame AHA because that's an easy oversight to make and the Republicans probably would have opposed it anyway because of "freedom."

17 Decatur Deb  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 4:01:24pm

Romney: Let’s Agree That Everything I’ve Ever Done in My Life Up to This Point Is Off the Table

So he's running as the 1/3rd owner of a mediocre dancing horse?

18 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 4:02:48pm

re: #10 goddamnedfrank

Sorry to hear about that. Hopefully he will get off the bottle one day and see clearly.

19 SpaceJesus  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 4:02:54pm

Ok. I'll take 1970 Mitt Romney against 2007 Obama.

20 Lidane  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 4:03:25pm

re: #18 Daniel Ballard

Sorry to hear about that. Hopefully he will get off the bottle one day and see clearly.

Seconded.

21 SpaceJesus  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 4:03:37pm

All of my space dollars on Obama of course

22 Big Joe  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 4:07:29pm

His biggest problem is he can't even talk about his policies because he hasn't fleshed them out any further than the mere platitudes he's uttered so far. When his Tax Cut Plan was questioned he didn't want to talk about policy any more, either.

23 allegro  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 4:08:44pm

re: #16 goddamnedfrank

All the government had to do was automatically deduct PCIP premiums from the first two years of SSD payments. Kind of fucking obvious when you think about it. I don't blame AHA because that's an easy oversight to make and the Republicans probably would have opposed it anyway because of "freedom."

I don't know how much your brother's SSD payments are but I do know that PCIP is quite expensive. Perhaps he could not afford to pay that and rent too?

24 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 4:09:59pm

So let me get this straight, Mitt, it's okay for you to extoll your business record and use it as proof in your words that you understand the private sector better than President Obama but we're not allowed to look at and scrutinize what you actually did in your business career. Really, Mitt? Could you be any more of a lying and dishonest man?

25 Lidane  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 4:10:04pm

re: #22 Big Joe

His biggest problem is he can't even talk about his policies because he hasn't fleshed them out any further than the mere platitudes he's uttered so far. When his Tax Cut Plan was questioned he didn't want to talk about policy any more, either.

So basically, he doesn't want to talk about policy, or his business dealings, or anything else.

The election's not until November. WTF does he expect people to talk about if not what he claims to stand for?

26 makeitstop  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 4:10:58pm
“The governor was expressing his view that he hopes we can have a campaign focused on the issues rather than one of desperation and lies as we’ve seen from the Obama campaign,” Saul said in an e-mail.

Yo, Andrea. Somebody's campaign is based on desperation and lies here.

Hint: It ain't Obama's.

27 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 4:11:51pm

re: #25 Lidane

So basically, he doesn't want to talk about policy, or his business dealings, or anything else.

The election's not until November. WTF does he expect people to talk about if not what he claims to stand for?

He wants them to talk about how great he is because we're all supposed to kiss his ass just like his subordinates in the business world. Someone needs to tell Mitt that this country isn't his personal corporation where he can do whatever the hell he wants and not get criticized for it. The narcissism this guy has is unbelievable.

28 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 4:14:24pm

re: #15 lawhawk

Can I have some cheese with that whine Willard? If you didn't think that your business experience would become an issue (that you brought up btw by mentioning it as a key reason to be president over Obama), then you weren't paying attention to politics for the last 30 years. Everything you've ever claimed to have done or touted is fair game. Your business success? That's fair game. How you made your fortune? Fair game.

I have no problem with wanting to shield your wife and kids - that's not fair game and shouldn't ever be part of it.

It's funny to watch him claim that his record is off limits, all while the right wing (with a wink and nod from Romney's campaign) is gone off the rails in conspiracy paranoia with attacks on the President and the First Lady. [added - Moreover, Romney's producing a nonstop amount of lies about Obama's record and positions to boot]

Damn said it better than I could. Really, it's hilarious, he uses his business record as proof he's more capable for the job than the president and then he whines that we want to know about his business record. Really, I'm getting sick and tired of Mitt Romney's arrogant bullshit. I wouldn't feel bad if he were personally bankrupted by this election because he's already morally bankrupt as is and I know that's a harsh statement but damn this guy has a lot of nerve to act like he's the greatest businessman this country has ever seen and then whine like a child being told he can't always get his way the second his business record is analyzed less than favorably.

29 Decatur Deb  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 4:14:34pm

Nuns to Romney:

[Link: thinkprogress.org...]

There is only one unchallengeable lesson to be learned in Catholic school--
Do Not Fuck With Nuns.

30 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 4:15:18pm

re: #23 allegro

I don't know how much your brother's SSD payments are but I do know that PCIP is quite expensive. Perhaps he could not afford to pay that and rent too?

He would have been forced to budget heavily, but it was doable. He would have had to either cut out the booze or move in with his mom. There were options available.

31 aagcobb  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 4:17:18pm

re: #8 Bubblehead II

"So why is he running for POTUS again?"

Because He wants to be the CEO of the biggest Corporation in the world so he can fix all its problems by down sizing and selling off all those unprofitable assets like the EPA, DOE, DOJ and any State that consumes more Federal dollars than they generate?

Unfortunately for him, those are mostly red states.

32 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 4:20:01pm

This just in, Mitt Romney demands attacks cease on his record as governor of Massachusetts, "That was before Obama became president and I had to repudiate anything I did as governor that was close to what Obama did as president", the candidate commented, adding that he just wished the American people would let him be president because it's his and he deserves it better than that other guy. Really Mitt Romney is the Shooter McGavin of presidential candidates.

33 moderatelyradicalliberal  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 4:20:15pm

Screw you Willard. The "Chicago thugs" aren't playing with your ass and are about to get medieval on it.

34 Decatur Deb  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 4:21:20pm

re: #33 moderatelyradicalliberal

Screw you Willard. The "Chicago thugs" aren't playing with your ass and are about to get medieval on it.

The dolts don't realize that when they call you a thug they sort of give you permission to be a thug.

35 Lidane  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 4:23:13pm

So has anyone dared to put on the flame retardant undies and hazmat suit to see what the RWNJ blogs are saying about this? They can't be all that happy that Mittens is begging for mercy from the Dems even before the RNC.

36 Killgore Trout  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 4:24:04pm

Fareed Zakaria apologizes for plagiarism
Suspended from CNN and Time.

37 moderatelyradicalliberal  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 4:24:36pm

re: #34 Decatur Deb

The dolts don't realize that when they call you a thug they sort of give you permission to be a thug.

Especially when the president actually dislikes Romney. He had real respect for McCain and Hillary back in 2008, but I think he despises Willard 9along with most people) and that makes opening up the can of Whoop Ass so much easier.

38 Obdicut  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 4:26:20pm

re: #36 Killgore Trout

Why the fuck do journalists think they'll get away with this shit?

39 moderatelyradicalliberal  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 4:26:36pm

re: #35 Lidane

So has anyone dared to put on the flame retardant undies and hazmat suit to see what the RWNJ blogs are saying about this? They can't be all that happy that Mittens is begging for mercy from the Dems even before the RNC.

It really is pathetic. Especially, when you consider what has been thrown at Obama and his family for the last 5 years since he first announced back in 2007. I don't remember the Clintons begging for mercy either. These WATBs can dish it out but they can't take it.

40 Lidane  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 4:27:30pm

re: #38 Obdicut

Why the fuck do journalists think they'll get away with this shit?

Especially in the internet era. WTF?

I couldn't even turn in a paper in grad school without sending it through a plagiarism filter. Why does anyone who writes professionally for a living think that their standards would be any different?

41 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 4:28:03pm

re: #39 moderatelyradicalliberal

It really is pathetic. Especially, when you consider what has been thrown at Obama and his family for the last 5 years since he first announced back in 2007. I don't remember the Clintons begging for mercy either. These WATBs can dish it out but they can't take it.

Romney's like the bully who has for the first time in his life had someone tell him "No, Mitt, you're not getting away with this." Really, he's showing here that he's the same punk kid that harassed a kid for having long hair.

42 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 4:28:07pm

re: #36 Killgore Trout

Fareed Zakaria apologizes for plagiarism
Suspended from CNN and Time.

Amazing. Everyone is asking wtf.

43 makeitstop  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 4:29:12pm

Mitt is a victim of the wingnut meme that Obama is an effete wimp, and the grossly mistaken conclusion that going negative on him early would make him fold.

I have to admit that while I expected Obama's team to fight back, I'm pretty amazed at the efficiency and ruthlessness they've shown.

Romney hasn't even gotten to the damn convention and he's crying uncle, and Team Obama shows no signs of letting up.

This is like watching the US-Nigeria basketball game - except I felt a little sorry for Nigeria.

Romney? I don't feel the least bit sorry for him. He's getting what he deserves, and I hope Obama keeps a boot on his neck until Election Day.

44 moderatelyradicalliberal  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 4:30:42pm

Caption this photo:

Image: obama-laughing.jpg

I'll go first.

"And then the pussy ass motherfucker asked me to stop being mean to him!"

45 Killgore Trout  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 4:30:47pm

re: #38 Obdicut

Why the fuck do journalists think they'll get away with this shit?

I don't know. My guess is that he has researchers and assistants. He probably copied something his helpers handed him. College professors to the same thing. I've had college professors publish excepts from my research assignments verbatim without attribution in their own books and articles. I assume it happens all the time. Glenn Beck and Rachael Maddow aren't spending all day doing their own research and writing their owns scripts. They have people.

46 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 4:31:07pm
47 Killgore Trout  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 4:34:16pm

This guy has the same theory....
Fareed Zakaria's Plagiarism: Even Worse Than It Looks

Might Zakaria then have fobbed off the drafting of his ill-fated Time article to an assistant or intern (from Yale, perhaps?) and given the draft his glancing approval before letting it run under his byline in Time? Whatever the truth, he couldn't have fobbed off the blame on anyone but himself, and so he has issued his clipped but "unreserved" apology to Lepore.

48 Kragar  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 4:35:46pm

Since his entire life is off the table, the man has zero experience to run for POTUS. Quit wasting our fucking time.

49 dragonath  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 4:37:21pm

Romney the Martyr. He's acting all aggrieved and self-righteous and he's going to try to use this to justify further attacks on Obama.

50 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 4:39:29pm

I think the whining act is going to turn a lot of people off. People know that Romney hasn't exactly played a positive game himself and what will and certainly to me comes across as whining from a man who has had every advantage in his life will hurt at the polls and in the court of public opinion. Harry Truman would tell Romney to stay the hell out of the kitchen since he obviously can't take the heat.

51 nines09  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 4:42:04pm

Now not only is Mitt Romney denying he is Mitt Romney, he's saying he never even met him. Doesn't know who he is. I want to see him hug David Barton on stage on National TV and declare that David Barton is the best man he's ever known and a voice to be listened to. Then I want Mike Huckabee to French kiss David Barton as he kicks an elderly sick woman in the face screaming "You're a burned down house bitch!" Then Rick Santorum will bring out his wife and explain why her abortion was "different" and they are "special" and your wife would die in his warped world. Then Sarah rides out on the back of Ol' Maverick hisself Johnny McCain to thunderous applause as Newt Gingrich dumps his 3rd wife live on closed circuit TV and Donald Trump wets himself with glee. Or is that too much to ask?

52 Kragar  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 4:42:21pm

Mitt Romney: "Ask me anything. My life is an open empty book."

53 jhncsy  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 4:42:43pm

Well, this does't make me suspicious at all!

54 Lidane  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 4:43:16pm

re: #44 moderatelyradicalliberal

Different photo, but it still works:

Image: umadbrah.jpg

55 Kragar  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 4:43:41pm

re: #53 jhncsy

Well, this does't make me suspicious at all!

"I swear there are absolutely no dead hookers in my history... FUCKING HELL!"

56 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 4:44:15pm

It's his presidential dream and he can cry if he wants to.

57 jaunte  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 4:44:54pm
all criticism of his business dealings and finances should be off the table

Dick in a sealed box.

58 nines09  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 4:46:19pm

re: #44 moderatelyradicalliberal

OFF THE TABLE??!? HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH....uuuhhhhhhh..........HAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

59 Only The Lurker Knows  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 4:48:28pm

re: #31 aagcobb

Unfortunately for him, those are mostly red states.

// Well after he sells them off, it shouldn't be a problem, now should it?

60 Interesting Times  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 4:49:54pm
61 dragonath  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 4:51:47pm

"If you don't play nice... my friends are going to call you a Muslim Kenyan Communist with an anti-American Homosexual agenda!"

...

"Oh wait"

62 nines09  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 4:52:01pm

OT.

63 Patricia Kayden  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 4:53:22pm

re: #9 makeitstop

This guy is going to be toast by the end of the Dem convention.

He expected a cakewalk, and he didn't expect Team Obama to punch back.

He. Can't. Handle. It. Not presidential material. At all.

Exactly. And now he thinks he can set the terms of Obama's campaign. If Romney was winning in the polls, would he be whining about Obama's ads? Don't think so.

64 Only The Lurker Knows  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 4:53:46pm

re: #48 Kragar

Since his entire life is off the table, the man has zero experience to run for POTUS. Quit wasting our fucking time.

This. Either he owns up to it, or he quits. What's is it going be be Willard

65 makeitstop  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 4:54:18pm

This quote from Romney is pretty unbelievable.

“You know, in the past, when people pointed out that something was inaccurate, why, campaigns pulled the ad,” Romney said on Bill Bennett’s radio show. “They were embarrassed. Today, they just blast ahead. You know, the various fact-checkers look at some of these charges in the Obama ads and they say that they’re wrong, and inaccurate, and yet he just keeps on running them.”

After being three for three in the 'inaccurate ads' column, Mittens shouldn't be shooting his mouth off like that.

66 nines09  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 4:55:32pm

re: #65 makeitstop

If they did that Mitt would never have had an ad to begin with. He's a massive tool. Massive. Did I mention, MASSIVE?

67 Cheechako  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 4:55:44pm

I'm beginning to wonder if their might be a revolt at the Republican convention. From multiple sides.

68 Patricia Kayden  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 4:56:02pm

re: #24 HappyWarrior
So exactly what does Romney expect President Obama to do? Just lay back while he and his billionaire supporters come out with dishonest ads, like the one implying that Obama is paying people to eat bonbons and sit on the couch all day? Right.

69 darthstar  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 4:57:47pm

Cowardly little fucker. Do we need (or want) a coward to be president (again...Bush showed his prowess through US troops' lives)?

70 Interesting Times  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 4:57:54pm

re: #68 Patricia Kayden

So exactly what does Romney expect President Obama to do? Just lay back while he and his billionaire supporters come out with dishonest ads, like the one implying that Obama is paying people to eat bonbons and sit on the couch all day? Right.

71 Lidane  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 4:59:11pm

re: #67 Cheechako

I'm beginning to wonder if their might be a revolt at the Republican convention. From multiple sides.

I don't know. If he keeps begging for mercy from the Dems before the RNC and if Romney HQ actually starts talking up Romneycare there could be.

A floor fight or open revolt at the RNC would be stunning to watch, I think.

72 Patricia Kayden  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 4:59:16pm

re: #65 makeitstop
Wasn't Romney's very FIRST ad (run during the Republican primary) the twisting or taking out of context of President Obama's words? If I recall correctly, he took a few words out of one of Obama's speeches and when challenged, one of his spokespersons boasted about all the publicity the ad was getting. Talk about pot calling the kettle black!

73 makeitstop  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 5:00:03pm

re: #67 Cheechako

I'm beginning to wonder if their might be a revolt at the Republican convention. From multiple sides.

At this point, it wouldn't surprise me.

The GOP is about to nominate the most inept presidential candidate I've seen in my lifetime - and I saw Dukakis and Mondale.

The only question is, who in the hell would they replace him with? As horrible as he is, he actually looks like the best they've got.

74 darthstar  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 5:00:06pm

re: #72 Patricia Kayden

Wasn't Romney's very FIRST ad (run during the Republican primary) the twisting or taking out of context of President Obama's words? If I recall correctly, he took a few words out of one of Obama's speeches and when challenged, one of his spokespersons boasted about all the publicity the ad was getting. Talk about pot calling the kettle black!

Actually, it's just the losing challenger calling the President black...and even that strategy is failing miserably.

75 AntonSirius  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 5:00:26pm

re: #41 HappyWarrior

Romney's like the bully who has for the first time in his life had someone tell him "No, Mitt, you're not getting away with this." Really, he's showing here that he's the same punk kid that harassed a kid for having long hair.

Precisely. Classic bully behavior- Mitt can dish it out, but the instant he gets any pushback he folds up like a card table.

At this point I expect him to duck out of debating Obama at all.

76 darthstar  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 5:00:43pm

re: #73 makeitstop

At this point, it wouldn't surprise me.

The GOP is about to nominate the most inept presidential candidate I've seen in my lifetime - and I saw Dukakis and Mondale.

The only question is, who in the hell would they replace him with? As horrible as he is, he actually looks like the best they've got.

There's still hope for a brokered convention. LUAP NOR is still a viable alternative!

77 darthstar  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 5:02:27pm

re: #75 AntonSirius

Precisely. Classic bully behavior- Mitt can dish it out, but the instant he gets any pushback he folds up like a card table.

At this point I expect him to duck out of debating Obama at all.

He's dead in the water if he doesn't debate...then again, he'll likely pull out of at least one debate citing "scheduling conflicts." Remember, the experts in the media say he's a master debater (and again I point to the $10,000 bet and grabbing Perry's shoulder as examples of just how well Mitt handles pressure on stage).

78 Cheechako  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 5:04:13pm

re: #73 makeitstop

The only question is, who in the hell would they replace him with? As horrible as he is, he actually looks like the best they've got.

I know it won't happen but I'd like to see former Senator Alan Simpson go for one term. Too bad he's as old as he is.

79 darthstar  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 5:04:13pm

The only thing that could help Romney right now is a full media black-out until the third week in October...no ads, no speeches, no campaigning. Just a week to lie like a motherfucker 24/7 on TV and hope that swings the election.

80 Killgore Trout  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 5:09:20pm

Brietbart is reporting that Huntsman will be speaking and the Dem convention. Interesting possibility but I assume he'd have to switch parties if he wants to continue his political career.

81 allegro  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 5:11:08pm

re: #80 Killgore Trout

Brietbart is reporting that Huntsman will be speaking and the Dem convention. Interesting possibility but I assume he'd have to switch parties if he wants to continue his political career.

Considering the current state of the GOP, I think he'll have to do that regardless if he wants a political career.

82 Gus  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 5:11:22pm

Hi. My name is Mitt Romney. I'm running largely on my business record with Bain Capital. The only catch though is we're not allowed to talk about my business record.

83 Archangelus  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 5:12:55pm

re: #82 Gus

And that's Obama's next campaign ad in a nutshell...

84 R.M, Ramallo  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 5:12:58pm

Mitt reminds me of the guy in the movies who destroyes everything in his path, and when he's caught, begs for mercy,( at which point the less experienced cop lets down his guard, BAM, knife to the kidneys), so watch out!

What you see here is the difference between a man who has had to work for everything, and a man who has worked for nothing.
My brain keeps telling me to pity him, cause he did not know who he was fuckin' with, but I can't stop laughing.

Punk. Ass.

85 jaunte  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 5:14:11pm

re: #84 OhNoZombies!

Don't drop your guard, or we'll all get a knife to the pre-existing conditions.

86 Lidane  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 5:15:05pm

re: #81 allegro

Considering the current state of the GOP, I think he'll have to do that regardless if he wants a political career.

Seriously. Huntsman went from a wildly popular governor of Utah and rising star in the GOP to a guy who was reviled as a Manchurian candidate and Commie sleeper agent because he chose to resign and serve as Obama's ambassador to China.

He's not going to have a future in the current GOP, especially if Obama wins a second term. If he wants to run for office again, he's better off giving a "Why I Parted Ways With the GOP" speech at the DNC and switching sides.

87 Killgore Trout  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 5:15:07pm

re: #81 allegro

Considering the current state of the GOP, I think he'll have to do that regardless if he wants a political career.

If true, I think that he doesn't see any chance of the GOP changing course anytime soon. I think they'll start to wake up soon but maybe he knows something I don't.

88 moderatelyradicalliberal  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 5:15:20pm

I thought this would be appropriate.

Does Barack Obama ever get angry?

89 R.M, Ramallo  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 5:16:12pm

re: #85 jaunte

Don't drop your guard, or we'll all get a knife to the pre-existing conditions.

Exactly !

90 darthstar  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 5:17:54pm

re: #80 Killgore Trout

Brietbart is reporting that Huntsman will be speaking and the Dem convention.

For once, I actually hope that dead fucker's right.

91 allegro  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 5:18:17pm

re: #84 OhNoZombies!

My brain keeps telling me to pity him, cause he did not know who he was fuckin' with, but I can't stop laughing.

This is another sign of an incredibly incompetent campaign. Obama is not an unknown opponent. He ran a flawless campaign in 2008 and proved his capability to get the job done in spite of some pretty impressive odds. That Romney's campaign is being caught with its proverbial pants down is surprising. Or not.

92 moderatelyradicalliberal  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 5:18:34pm

re: #86 Lidane

Seriously. Huntsman went from a wildly popular governor of Utah and rising star in the GOP to a guy who was reviled as a Manchurian candidate and Commie sleeper agent because he chose to resign and serve as Obama's ambassador to China.

He's not going to have a future in the current GOP, especially if Obama wins a second term. If he wants to run for office again, he's better off giving a "Why I Parted Ways With the GOP" speech at the DNC and switching sides.

Huntsman is rich enough to not give a shit. Seriously, you give me that guy's money and a press conference to say what I want about people I don't like. It would be scandalous.

93 AntonSirius  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 5:18:47pm

re: #77 darthstar

He's dead in the water if he doesn't debate...

The water's looking pretty bloody already, and it's not like Obama's going to let up on him between now and November. I think post-convention Romney's instinct is going to be to turtle, and hope all the SuperPAC money gets him through.

94 Gus  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 5:18:53pm

OT

Oh look. The south is in the news again.

Feds: Mississippi county runs 'school-to-prison pipeline'

(CNN) -- Officials in Lauderdale County, Mississippi, have operated "a school-to-prison pipeline" that violates the constitutional rights of juveniles by incarcerating them for alleged school disciplinary infractions, some as minor as defiance, the U.S. Department of Justice said Friday.

"Students most affected by this system are African-American children and children with disabilities," the Justice Department said.

The federal agency's civil rights division seeks "meaningful negotiations" in 60 days to end the constitutional violations or else a federal lawsuit would be filed against state, county and local officials in Meridian, according to a Justice Department letter dated Friday to those officials.

The letter also names two Lauderdale County Youth Court judges, Frank Coleman and Veldore Young.

State and local officials couldn't be reached immediately for comment Friday...

95 darthstar  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 5:20:55pm

re: #92 moderatelyradicalliberal

Huntsman is rich enough to not give a shit. Seriously, you give me that guy's money and a press conference to say what I want about people I don't like. It would be scandalous.

Sixty something millionaires worried about their career prospects? Not likely. If I was Huntsman I'd be doing what Harry Reid is doing now. Pulling no punches and finishing my political career with my head held high knowing I didn't give in to an insecure fucktard like Mitt Romney.

96 Gus  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 5:29:05pm

Uhhhh. Breitbart. Right.

Jon Huntsman's daughter says the former governor won't speak at Dem convention

Jon Huntsman's daughter Liddy shot down a report from Breitbart Friday that her father, a former Republican presidential candidate and former governor of Utah, would speak at the Democratic National Convention.


97 Lidane  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 5:29:48pm

re: #92 moderatelyradicalliberal

Huntsman is rich enough to not give a shit. Seriously, you give me that guy's money and a press conference to say what I want about people I don't like. It would be scandalous.

OK. Fair point. Still, I'd love to see who these high profile Republicans are going to be at the DNC. If any of them pull a Harry Reid and go all honey badger on the GOP in prime time, it will be amazing.

98 compound_Idaho  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 5:30:37pm

re: #95 darthstar

Sixty something millionaires worried about their career prospects? Not likely. If I was Huntsman I'd be doing what Harry Reid is doing now. Pulling no punches and finishing my political career with my head held high knowing I didn't give in to an insecure fucktard like Mitt Romney.

The Huntsman family make the Romneys look like down right middle class.

99 darthstar  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 5:30:57pm

Okay...she's fucking cute as a button. And dead Breitbart is still wrong (sorry KT).

100 Gus  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 5:31:41pm

re: #99 darthstar

Okay...she's fucking cute as a button. And dead Breitbart is still wrong (sorry KT).

[Embedded content]

#96

101 Big Joe  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 5:31:47pm
102 darthstar  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 5:32:41pm

re: #98 compound_Idaho

The Huntsman family make the Romneys look like down right middle class.

Huntsman? Fuck, the Palins give Romney a run for the money on class.

103 darthstar  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 5:33:16pm

re: #100 Gus

#96

Yeah, yeah...refresh before posting...refresh before posting. Still, she's a cutie pie.

104 makeitstop  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 5:33:22pm

re: #99 darthstar

Okay...she's fucking cute as a button. And dead Breitbart is still wrong (sorry KT).

[Embedded content]

The Huntsman daughters are fine. There's just no other way to put it.

105 Digital Display  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 5:37:12pm

re: #97 Lidane

OK. Fair point. Still, I'd love to see who these high profile Republicans are going to be at the DNC. If any of them pull a Harry Reid and go all honey badger on the GOP in prime time, it will be amazing.

Hi You! There will be no high profile Republicans speaking at the DNC Convention. After 4 years of painting Obama as the Devil name one GOP member willing to cross the political line..And if one..just one does.. It's the end of the line for them.
This election will be decided by Independents..Not by the Rogue pols.
Currently I predict a 5 to 7 point win for Obama.

106 blueraven  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 5:40:19pm

One of the oft repeated attack line from Romney about Obama.

In order to know how to create jobs, it helps to have had a job.

hurr, hurr

Implying that Obama has never had a job but he, Romney, knows how to create jobs because of his Bain experience.

Well, lets talk about that job Mitt.

107 darthstar  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 5:40:20pm
108 makeitstop  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 5:40:22pm

re: #105 Digital Display

Hi You! There will be no high profile Republicans speaking at the DNC Convention. After 4 years of painting Obama as the Devil name one GOP member willing to cross the political line..And if one..just one does.. It's the end of the line for them.
This election will be decided by Independents..Not by the Rogue pols.
Currently I predict a 5 to 7 point win for Obama.

Charles posted about the convention plans earlier. They are, indeed, bringing in Republicans every night.

Probably retired Congressmen and others who are past the political reach on the RWNJs, but Republicans nonetheless.

109 kirkspencer  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 5:40:26pm

re: #105 Digital Display

Hi You! There will be no high profile Republicans speaking at the DNC Convention. After 4 years of painting Obama as the Devil name one GOP member willing to cross the political line..And if one..just one does.. It's the end of the line for them.
This election will be decided by Independents..Not by the Rogue pols.
Currently I predict a 5 to 7 point win for Obama.

So a little less than the margin he had against McCain.

(Reminder. Obama got 52.9% of the popular vote, McCain got 45.7, for a difference of 7.2 points.)

110 kirkspencer  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 5:41:51pm

heh - saw a fun rumor recently.

Romney/Lieberman.

111 makeitstop  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 5:42:32pm

re: #110 kirkspencer

heh - saw a fun rumor recently.

Romney/Lieberman.

War on Insomnia.

112 darthstar  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 5:42:55pm

re: #110 kirkspencer

heh - saw a fun rumor recently.

Romney/Lieberman.

That wouldn't surprise me at all. We'd finally get to use "Loserman" and not feel bad about it.

113 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 5:43:47pm

re: #110 kirkspencer

heh - saw a fun rumor recently.

Romney/Lieberman.

Heh despite the right claiming they like and respect Lieberman. Romney if he did that would get the same shit McCain got for considering it. Besides has Lieberman backed either guy yet. McCain-Lieberman only looked somewhat possible because Lieberman had been a big McCain supporter and they're friends too. I doubt Joe Lieberman knows Mitt Romney all that well anyhow.

114 Gus  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 5:45:33pm

re: #110 kirkspencer

heh - saw a fun rumor recently.

Romney/Lieberman.

I've joked about that before. Freaking Droopy Dog. I don't see why not. That asshole already spoke at the 2008 RNC.

115 Lidane  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 5:45:42pm

re: #110 kirkspencer

heh - saw a fun rumor recently.

Romney/Lieberman.

The GOP base might consider holding their nose and voting for a Mormon, but a ticket without an Evangelical Christian on there at all? Not a chance.

116 darthstar  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 5:49:18pm

re: #115 Lidane

The GOP base might consider holding their nose and voting for a Mormon, but a ticket without an Evangelical Christian on there at all? Not a chance.

I don't think Mormon + Jew is a good Southern Strategy...Hell, Alvin Green could win if that was the ticket.

117 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 5:53:28pm

re: #115 Lidane

The GOP base might consider holding their nose and voting for a Mormon, but a ticket without an Evangelical Christian on there at all? Not a chance.

That's why I think Pawlenty could be it. He's an evangelical.

118 kirkspencer  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 5:54:32pm

Oh, I agree with all the negatives about Lieberman. It's just another rumor.

At this point I think Romney's going to delay the announcement of his choice till as close to the last minute as possible. I'm sure he'd like to wait till the 27th (first day of the convention) but simple logistics mean he's probably got to announce no later than the 24th. After all, his selection has to get to the convention. Further it would be a tad embarrassing on the 27th to say "My selection is" only to have that person say, "it's an honor, but no thank you."

But the main point to keep in mind is that there are no good candidates. Every one of the choices being tossed around carries baggage. Too much time and at least some of the acceptance speech has to be dealing with (or obviously ignoring) the pointed questions about that baggage raised by the Democrats and the press. Waiting to the last minute won't stop the questions but at least they won't mar the convention (much).

119 Digital Display  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 5:55:43pm

re: #108 makeitstop

Charles posted about the convention plans earlier. They are, indeed, bringing in Republicans every night.

Probably retired Congressmen and others who are past the political reach on the RWNJs, but Republicans nonetheless.

I don't agree.. There will not be one high profile Republican speak at the DNC convention. Period. The GOP jumped off the cliff 4 years ago.
The DNC can make as many plans as they want.. This will not happen.
/ Yes I can be wrong...I'd like to say the Hoopster is never wrong but you guys know that's not true.
/

120 b_sharp  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 6:01:32pm

re: #119 Digital Display

I don't agree.. There will not be one high profile Republican speak at the DNC convention. Period. The GOP jumped off the cliff 4 years ago.
The DNC can make as many plans as they want.. This will not happen.
/ Yes I can be wrong...I'd like to say the Hoopster is never wrong but you guys know that's not true.
/

It will probably hinge on the term 'high profile'.
We may be assuming wrongly the repubs speaking will be politicians and not media people.

121 engineer cat  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 6:07:57pm

if we had an agreement between both campaigns that we were only going to talk about issues

somebody clue mitt into the fact that the personality and character of the president of the united states are very important

and, by the way, your "issues"? - like the one about fixing the economy by lowering taxes even more?

they suck too

122 steve_davis  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 6:08:52pm

I don't think Mitt grasps the point of Facebook, which may be the reason he's having to buy friends. Profile: "None of my personal information is any of your fucking business. Now, friend me, goddammit."

123 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 6:13:54pm

re: #120 b_sharp

It will probably hinge on the term 'high profile'.
We may be assuming wrongly the repubs speaking will be politicians and not media people.

I think it could be someone out of office who has been critical of the direction of the party. The article mentioned Chuck Hagel who fits that.

124 Big Joe  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 6:16:02pm
125 allegro  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 6:18:02pm

What about LaTourette who is resigning because he's sick of the Republican partisan shit?

From The Hill

Rep. Steven LaTourette (R-Ohio) lamented the demise of bipartisanship in Congress as he announced his retirement on Tuesday, saying the “toll” of the acrimony in Washington had come to outweigh the benefits of being a congressman.

The nine-term lawmaker, a close ally of Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio), presented himself as the latest casualty of a toxic political environment that has driven other centrist members out of the Capitol in recent years.


In a press conference in his home district in Ohio, LaTourette said the partisan environment “no longer encouraged the finding of common ground.” Compromise, he said, had become “a dirty word” in Washington.

“The time has come for not only good politics, but good policy,” he said.

LaTourette retires at the end of his current term as one of the last remaining centrists in the conservative House Republican conference. He had become increasingly disenchanted with the GOP’s hard-line position on taxes, speaking out on the need for a “grand bargain” on the deficit and disavowing Grover Norquist’s pledge against tax increases that he signed when he first ran for the House in 1994. He was also a rare Republican strongly supportive of labor unions.

126 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 6:22:55pm

Oh crap. A small plane has crashed into a building in Westwood, first reports vary, maybe hit a backyard.

127 steve_davis  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 6:26:01pm

re: #77 darthstar

He's dead in the water if he doesn't debate...then again, he'll likely pull out of at least one debate citing "scheduling conflicts." Remember, the experts in the media say he's a master debater (and again I point to the $10,000 bet and grabbing Perry's shoulder as examples of just how well Mitt handles pressure on stage).

Yes, well, I'll thoroughly enjoy the moment when he grabs the president's shoulder on stage and has half-a-dozen Treasury agents bury him under a pile-on.

128 Gus  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 6:28:34pm

re: #126 Daniel Ballard

Oh crap. A small plane has crashed into a building in Westwood, first reports vary, maybe hit a backyard.

129 Killgore Trout  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 6:29:22pm

re: #124 Big Joe

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Screw them!
/

130 labman57  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 6:29:43pm

Hmmm.
Romney says that he is highly qualified to be POTUS based on his extensive experience as a "job creator" while at Bain ... however we should not be allowed to analyze or critique said business experience.

Mitt to news media and Obama campaign:
"Don't discuss my personal finances, don't discuss my business practices, don't discuss my recent overseas trip, and most of all, don't discuss my policies and programs while Governor of Massachusetts."

Okay, let's talk about something totally benign ... "Mitt, how's Seamus? What? Don't talk about the dog either?"

131 JamesWI  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 6:29:53pm

re: #50 HappyWarrior

I think the whining act is going to turn a lot of people off. People know that Romney hasn't exactly played a positive game himself and what will and certainly to me comes across as whining from a man who has had every advantage in his life will hurt at the polls and in the court of public opinion. Harry Truman would tell Romney to stay the hell out of the kitchen since he obviously can't take the heat.

No kidding. We must have endless soundbites from his Republican primary opponents complaining about all his negative attacks, especially Gingrich and Santorum. He spent a ridiculous amount of money flooding the airwaves in key states with nothing but attack ads. This was before he was willing to talk about policy AT ALL, let alone the tiny amount he has since the primaries.

Now he's whining about other people attacking......his business record? Give me a fucking break. Obama should start trotting out those ads made entirely out of soundbites from Romney's former opponents telling the world what a terrible person he is.

132 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 6:34:46pm

Potential Republicans who'd speak at the Dem convention:

Colin Powell
Charlie Crist
Christine Todd Whitman
Joseph Cao

133 blueraven  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 6:42:17pm

re: #132 goddamnedfrank

Potential Republicans who'd speak at the Dem convention:

Colin Powell
Charlie Crist
Christine Todd Whitman
Joseph Cao

Ray LaHood

134 Gus  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 6:45:53pm

KTLA has reported that the pilot is dead.

135 Big Joe  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 6:57:43pm

Mitt Romney: Asking for Apologies While Launching Attacks

136 Amory Blaine  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 6:58:54pm

Hey Mitt GFY. Sincerely.

137 dragonath  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 7:00:43pm

re: #133 blueraven

Ray LaHood

"Reports circulated earlier that Calvin Coolidge would be speaking at the Democratic National Convention, but when he was pressed for a comment reporters were met with dead silence."

138 Big Joe  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 7:02:17pm
“Look, I would not be in this race had I spent my life in politics alone,” Romney said at an October primary debate. “Nothing wrong with that, of course, but right now, with the American people in the kind of financial crisis they are in, they need someone who knows how to create jobs, and I do.”
139 Gus  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 7:02:34pm
140 Achilles Tang  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 7:04:49pm

re: #130 labman57

Hmmm.
Romney says that he is highly qualified to be POTUS based on his extensive experience as a "job creator" while at Bain ... however we should not be allowed to analyze or critique said business experience.

Mitt to news media and Obama campaign:
"Don't discuss my personal finances, don't discuss my business practices, don't discuss my recent overseas trip, and most of all, don't discuss my policies and programs while Governor of Massachusetts."

Okay, let's talk about something totally benign ... "Mitt, how's Seamus? What? Don't talk about the dog either?"

I've probably said this before, but I don't understand why Romney has never been asked how many jobs he has created in the past 4-8 years given that he is a master at that and has some $250 million, or more, in assets.

141 Big Joe  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 7:06:55pm

I guess the only record we can judge Mitt on now is his past 6 years of a failed job search.

142 Achilles Tang  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 7:07:28pm

re: #139 Gus

Mitt Romney: Mostly False

Yeah, but Obama's record doesn't make me happy either, although I do have issues with politifact who seem inclined to bend over backwards to put issues in "context"; meaning their narrow definition of context.

143 Amory Blaine  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 7:07:30pm

re: #139 Gus

That's why he doesn't want to be questioned. Because he's a dirty liar.

144 Sionainn  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 7:08:39pm

re: #105 Digital Display

Hi You! There will be no high profile Republicans speaking at the DNC Convention. After 4 years of painting Obama as the Devil name one GOP member willing to cross the political line..And if one..just one does.. It's the end of the line for them.
This election will be decided by Independents..Not by the Rogue pols.
Currently I predict a 5 to 7 point win for Obama.

Olympia Snowe just might.

145 Obdicut  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 7:08:52pm

re: #139 Gus

I like this bit:

However, as Politifact critics on the left and the right have noted (including me), their rulings are often inconsistent with each other, and even contradictory to their own analyses.

For example, they gave Mitt Romney a Pants On Fire for claims he made about the strength of the US Navy because, even though the figures he quoted were “largely correct,” they didn’t back up his “overall point.”

However, in a nearly identical circumstance in which Romney correctly claimed that President Obama had never visited Israel as President, even though Politifact acknowledged that no Republican president has ever visited Israel in his first term (Ronald Reagan and Bush 41 never went), they rated Romney’s claim “True,” even though his overall point was false.

In a separate rating on the same ad, they rated “Half True” Romney’s claim that President Obama “refuses to recognize Jerusalem as (Israel’s) capital,” even though their own analysis concluded that Obama did make such a recognition as a candidate, and his current position is “not so much a refusal on his part but a continuation of the line taken before him by previous presidents.”

Fact-checkers like Politifact are tremendously valuable for the research that they aggregate and conduct themselves, but inconsistent, contradictory, and capricious rulings badly undercut that value, especially when those are what politicians and media outlets pay the most attention to. Either a more consistent ratings scale is needed, or they ought to scrap them entirely, and let each fact-check stand on its own merits.

146 Interesting Times  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 7:10:58pm

From National Geographic:

Surprising Effects of the U.S. Drought (photo slideshow)

This picture freaks me out the most. The more you look at it and think about the implications, the more haunting, horrible, and horrifying it becomes.

147 funky chicken  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 7:11:19pm

re: #10 goddamnedfrank

My alcoholic train wreck of a half brother is being transported in an ambulance to Houston for acute spinal osteomyelitis. He's on SSD for his back so he get's monthly disability payments but he's still in his 2 year waiting period before insurance coverage kicks in. Because he wanted to live on his own and drink all the time he refused to purchase PCIP insurance to cover him in the meantime. Now he's going to drive up medical costs across the entire western hemisphere.

Bummer. I'm sure he's in a hell of a lot of pain and I doubt they're gonna provide booze, so he'll get out of there ASAP. My husband has a sister like that, so I know what a drag it is for you, too.

148 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 7:18:17pm

Ah Powell would make sense. He's quite high profile. Yeah he endorsed Obama last year but he didn't speak to the DNC. I think it will be someone who was an elected official though who has felt dismayed by the party's turn to the loony bin though.

149 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 7:20:35pm

re: #148 HappyWarrior

I think it will be someone who was an elected official though who has felt dismayed by the party's turn to the loony bin though.

Mayor McCheese?

150 Only The Lurker Knows  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 7:21:13pm

Night Lizards. May the Deity of your choice smile down upon you.

But I couldn't do it without her. To my Wife.

151 Digital Display  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 7:21:35pm

re: #144 Sionainn

Olympia Snowe just might.

Nope..Not her style..
We would be hard pressed to find a High Profile..meaningful Repub to speak at the DNC..This isn't politics anymore..It's a war..
I've always been pretty moderate in my political views...I guess those days are gone in America..

152 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 7:22:04pm

Evening Lizardim. Figured I'd stop in for a short visit and see what was up. What's new on the front lines in the war on derp?

153 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 7:24:46pm

re: #151 Digital Display

Nope..Not her style..
We would be hard pressed to find a High Profile..meaningful Repub to speak at the DNC..This isn't politics anymore..It's a war..
I've always been pretty moderate in my political views...I guess those days are gone in America..

Would Powell qualify? Yeah he's never held office as a Republican he probably was the most popular Republican for a large part of the 90's and was Secretary of State. It will be very interesting to see who it is. I'm not surprised, they've got someone high profile. In recent years, you have heard many rumblings from more old school Republicans about the direction the party's taken. I'm talking about governors but none with Powell's profile.

154 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 7:28:41pm

I wonder what Gerald Ford would say at the current direction of the Republican Party. He was always a fairly socially moderate guy- pro choice and pro gay rights but more fiscally conservative. I'm sure if he saw modern "fiscal conservatism" as the tax cuts uber alles bullshit that it is that he would be disappointed with his party. He already privately before he died expressed disappointment in the Iraq War too. Anyhow, as I said earlier, it's telling that the Democrats are going to have what will be easily seen as a more inclusive convention while Donald Trump will make an ass out of himself in Tampa.

155 blueraven  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 7:38:45pm

re: #146 Interesting Times

From National Geographic:

Surprising Effects of the U.S. Drought (photo slideshow)

This picture freaks me out the most. The more you look at it and think about the implications, the more haunting, horrible, and horrifying it becomes.

That photo is from old Bluffton TX.

The small town was submerged in 1939 by the building of Lake Buchanan dam.
The drought has eerily exposed the remnants of the old town.
It is only about an hour or so away from me.

156 Interesting Times  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:22:53pm

re: #155 blueraven

That photo is from old Bluffton TX.

The small town was submerged in 1939 by the building of Lake Buchanan dam. The drought has eerily exposed the remnants of the old town.
It is only about an hour or so away from me.

Looks like the photographer is Jeanette Warner, from Austin.

Only serves to drive home what LVQ said the other day :(

157 sagehen  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:30:21pm

re: #73 makeitstop

At this point, it wouldn't surprise me.

The GOP is about to nominate the most inept presidential candidate I've seen in my lifetime - and I saw Dukakis and Mondale.

The only question is, who in the hell would they replace him with? As horrible as he is, he actually looks like the best they've got.

Maybe they can draft Jeb Bush.

Because the country it just itching for a 4th Bush term.

158 sagehen  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:34:14pm

re: #88 moderatelyradicalliberal

I thought this would be appropriate.

Does Barack Obama ever get angry?

[Embedded content]

He has someone to do that for him.

159 Achilles Tang  Fri, Aug 10, 2012 8:43:28pm

re: #146 Interesting Times

From National Geographic:

Surprising Effects of the U.S. Drought (photo slideshow)

This picture freaks me out the most. The more you look at it and think about the implications, the more haunting, horrible, and horrifying it becomes.

Symbolic yes, posed yes.


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