Joe the Plumber: ‘Build a Damn Fence and Start Shooting’

Murderous xenophobia
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Gotta hand it to Samuel Wurzelbacher, aka “Joe the Plumber” — he has no hesitation about expressing outright the xenophobic hatred many right wingers actually believe but are too afraid to say: Joe the Plumber Unfiltered: Build a ‘Damn Fence’ and ‘Start Shooting’.

Samuel “Joe the Plumber” Wurzelbacher is not politically correct and he’s proud of it. And to prove it, the Ohio Republican congressional candidate told a crowd of about 125 supporters in Arizona that the government should “put a damn fence on the border going with Mexico and start shooting.”

“I’m running for Congress and that should be a bad thing to say,” Wurzelbacher said, as the Prescott eNews first reported. “You know what, that’s how I feel. I’m not going to hide it because I’m running for an office. I want my borders protected and I’m very, very adamant about that.”

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106 comments
1 AK-47%  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 9:43:29am

My ex-girlfriend from Tucson moved to Douglas, Arizona, down near the border in the 1980's with her new husband. From what I hear, they are in the thick of the Border War.

Sometimes they even benefit from it, I hear they have found several abandoned coyote vehicles on their property, mostly Nissan Pathfinders. They duly report them to the police, and if nobody comes to claim them (which nobody does) they get to keep them.

But I hear that her hubby has joined the Minutemen, erected a 30-foot observation tower on their property and was recently in a radio interview complaining about a law requiring residents to give water to people lost in the desert. he said he would do so, but only grudgingly and because the law compels him to do so.

2 Destro  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 9:44:43am

Every time I think I go too far in accusing the right wing (especially the Joe the Plumber kind of right winger) of religious extremism, racism and xenophobia and how the GOP party leadership uses dog whistle politics to excite this racist bent a right winger like Joe the Plumber comes along and lets loose on his hatreds reaffirming my point of view.

3 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 9:44:45am

Hey Joe, I kindly suggest you suck it up your nose and blow it out your ass. And WTF are you doing in Arizona stumping for an Ohio congressional gig?

4 Gus  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 9:45:09am

Joe Wurzelbacher. The intellectual leader of the revanchist, knuckle dragging, Tea Klux Klan.

5 jaunte  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 9:45:11am
“I’m not worried about being politically correct ,” the U.S. House candidate said. “That’s one thing that’s really scared us and really hurt us as a country is everyone is afraid to open their mouths, to say a little something funny.”

As if we have a shortage of loudmouthed violent dumbasses.

6 Obdicut  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 9:45:29am

Shooting who?

This guy?

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This guy?

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This kid?

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What possible threat do they pose to me that I'd want them dead?

7 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 9:45:35am

Why didn't the Indians think of that? Oh wait, they did, that's why we slaughtered millions of them and pushed the survivors onto reservations.

Perhaps that's what Mr. Wurzelbacher fears, a bit of kharmatic blowback.

8 AK-47%  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 9:46:05am

Joe the Plumber continues to get an extension on his 15 minutes of fame because his pinheaded views have such resonance within the GOP and none of the few remaining sane ones dare to call himi out on it for fear of losing the next primary.

9 Amory Blaine  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 9:46:25am

These people are dangerous and gaining ever closer to real power.

10 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 9:47:47am

re: #6 Obdicut

Shooting who?

This guy?

Image: migrant%202.jpg

This guy?

Image: 1542477_f260.jpg

This kid?

Image: 2429.jpg

What possible threat do they pose to me that I'd want them dead?

Deyre turken err jerbs!

(The ones that nobody else wanted to do and that's why the produce in Georgia and Alabama rotted in the fields because nobody would pick it)

11 Gus  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 9:47:54am

Going slightly OT but don't look now. NRO is at it again and this time Victor Davis Hanson gets into the "racialist" act... National Review’s Victor Davis Hanson Has Thoughts About Black People.

12 lawhawk  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 9:48:13am

What's Joe doing in Arizona stumping for dollars when he's supposedly trying to run for an Ohio Congressional district. Oh wait - he's stumping for dollars where he think the money and support is.

Maybe he'd be better off running for Congress in AZ. Maybe even run for Sheriff Joe's job (out Joe the old Joe).

13 Destro  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 9:48:16am

re: #6 Obdicut

Shooting who?

This guy?

Image: migrant%202.jpg

This guy?

Image: 1542477_f260.jpg

This kid?

Image: 2429.jpg

What possible threat do they pose to me that I'd want them dead?

The only threat I see is Mexicans NOT coming into America to do dirty work for little pay and then what we eat would cost an arm and a leg. Then we would have a crisis. Since I don't care if Americans speak English, Spanglish or Cajun French, I am grateful someone is willing to work way harder than my lazy American ass ever did just to cut my lawn for a few dollars.

The Mexicans are harder working than I ever was.

14 mikec6666  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 9:48:24am

Joe the Plumber -- LOL. Say whatever the fuck you want. Just don't expect us to care.

15 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 9:50:04am
16 Destro  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 9:50:42am

re: #14 mikec6666

Joe the Plumber -- LOL. Say whatever the fuck you want. Just don't expect us to care.

I actually care what Joe the Plumber says. He might get elected into office. It's not a joke anymore - except the joke would be on us if he is elected.

17 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 9:51:20am

Xenophobic hatred and drooling blood lust. He wants to kill people like this: Vista Father of Five Dies in Arizona Desert After Being Deported

And the wacko he's campaigning for is Lori 'Little Pink Gun' Klein. She also accused the Mexican American Studies program [now banned] of teaching 'revisionist history'.

18 AK-47%  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 9:51:28am

re: #6 Obdicut

Shooting who?

This guy?

Image: migrant%202.jpg

This guy?

Image: 1542477_f260.jpg

This kid?

Image: 2429.jpg

What possible threat do they pose to me that I'd want them dead?

My ex-girlfriend's husband might not necessarily shoot them, but he would let them die of thirst...

19 Bulworth  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 9:53:05am
Samuel “Joe the Plumber” Wurzelbacher is not politically correct and he’s proud of it.

This has been the standard reichwing excuse for anything ridiculous or offensive they propose. They just aren't "politically correct". Liberals, on the other hand, who say unpopular things are called "radical", "anti-American", etc.

20 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 9:54:26am

WHAT AN EVIL ASSHOLE

21 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 9:55:07am

re: #18 Expand Your Ground

My ex-girlfriend's husband might not necessarily shoot them, but he would let them die of thirst...

As the guy in my first link did.

Image: Alfonso_Martinez_Sanchez.jpg

22 Gus  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 9:55:32am

re: #19 Bulworth

This has been the standard reichwing excuse for anything ridiculous or offensive they propose. They just aren't "politically correct". Liberals, on the other hand, who say unpopular things are called "radical", "anti-American", etc.

These freaking bigots hiding behind the old "I'm not politically correct" bullshit. This dip-shit isn't being "not PC" he's just being a plain old bigot and nutbag.

23 AK-47%  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 9:56:05am

re: #21 wrenchwench

As the guy in my first link did.

Image: Alfonso_Martinez_Sanchez.jpg

I suspect that the 30-foot tower he built on his property is not just for "observation"...

24 Bulworth  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 9:56:50am
Unsustainable: couple retired last year: paid $149,000 in Medicare taxes, get back $351,000 in care. nationalreview.com/corner/313940/...
— Bryan Fischer (@BryanJFischer) August 14, 2012

Of course there are many people, mostly the less well off, who pay Medicare taxes and die before retiring or soon after and thus get back little. That's the social insurance part of social insurance. But of course Fischer and NR can't mention this.

25 Gus  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 9:57:23am
26 Gus  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 9:57:42am

Jesus!

27 gwangung  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 9:58:00am

re: #24 Bulworth

Of course there are many people, mostly the less well off, who pay Medicare taxes and die before retiring or soon after and thus get back little. That's the social insurance part of social insurance. But of course Fischer and NR can't mention this.

ANd doesn't this happen in the private sector as well, with other types of insurance?

28 AK-47%  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 9:58:58am

re: #20 Learned Mother of Zion

WHAT AN EVIL ASSHOLE

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Bryan Fischer:

"Unsustainable: couple retired last year: paid $149,000 in Medicare taxes, get back $351,000 in care."

The difference comes to exactly 2.32 Rafalca tax deductions...

29 jaunte  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 9:59:43am

OT: Erik Erickson, proving women will love Paul Ryan with Google stats:

"All this talk about “Republicans will defund Planned Parenthood so women won’t vote for them” is ridiculous, not borne out in polling, and all involves a religious devotion to killing kids . . . errrr . . . abortion on the left."
[Link: www.redstate.com...]

30 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:00:18am

Burned cat in Mpls. park puts Secret Service on alert

The cat's carcass in Longfellow Park was staked with a handheld American flag on a small stick, according to a federal law enforcement official. Standing next to the cat was an Obama/Biden 2012 lawn sign, the official said.

No arrests have been made.

31 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:01:09am

Doug Stanhope on immigration (possibly NSFW)

32 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:01:51am

re: #23 Expand Your Ground

I suspect that the 30-foot tower he built on his property is not just for "observation"...

Did he buy the property in order to participate in the so-called 'border war'? This guy did, and he had to pay $60,000 for taking people into 'custody'.

33 SpaceJesus  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:01:55am

Hard to believe this shithead was a darling here just last election

34 Gus  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:02:03am

re: #28 Expand Your Ground

Bryan Fischer:

"Unsustainable: couple retired last year: paid $149,000 in Medicare taxes, get back $351,000 in care."

The difference comes to exactly 2.32 Rafalca tax deductions...

35 Bulworth  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:02:16am

re: #27 gwangung

ANd doesn't this happen in the private sector as well, with other types of insurance?

Yes. The difference with social insurance is that there is intended to be a proportionately greater payout for lower earners (i.e. Social Security's progressive benefit formula) so that social insurance is helping to ensure against low lifetime wages. The flipside, however, is that lower income groups have historically had shorter life expectancies that serve to reduce the system's overall progressiveness.

36 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:02:19am

re: #28 Expand Your Ground

Bryan Fischer:

"Unsustainable: couple retired last year: paid $149,000 in Medicare taxes, get back $351,000 in care."

The difference comes to exactly 2.32 Rafalca tax deductions...

Bryan wants these people back to being dependent on the Church for charity - and thus under control of that hierarchy. And an uncaring governmental class plays into that meme as well since you then get back into the feudal interactions where the Church and nobility can play off each other in influence and control.

37 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:03:36am

re: #28 Expand Your Ground

Bryan Fischer:

"Unsustainable: couple retired last year: paid $149,000 in Medicare taxes, get back $351,000 in care."

The difference comes to exactly 2.32 Rafalca tax deductions...

Tweeted that.

38 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:04:44am

re: #1 Expand Your Ground

From what I hear, they are in the thick of the Border War.

There is no 'Border War'. People who say there is are dangerous, and lying to you.

39 Interesting Times  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:05:07am

re: #29 jaunte

OT: Erik Erickson, proving women will love Paul Ryan with Google stats:

Yes, because nothing appeals to women more than this attitude:

Hurr.

40 Obdicut  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:05:15am

re: #13 Destro

No, there wouldn't actually be that big a jump in the cost of food if we paid migrant workers a decent wage. That's scare stuff put out by big ag.

A 40% increase in their wages would result in 3% increase in food prices.

There is no reason why we couldn't pay migrant workers a decent wage for the hard, necessary work that they do. Except for greed.

Edit: Link added.

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

41 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:05:29am

re: #29 jaunte

OT: Erik Erickson, proving women will love Paul Ryan with Google stats:

Has anyone let Son of Eric know that Ryan supported the "personhood" amendment that would have made several forms of birth control illegal?

42 Bulworth  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:05:29am
I want my borders protected and I’m very, very adamant about that.”

More 'less government' from the teabag brigade.

43 Mocking Jay  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:06:05am

re: #20 Learned Mother of Zion

WHAT AN EVIL ASSHOLE

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Uh... stupid asshole forgets that that money has been put in over 40+ years.

44 Gus  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:07:05am

re: #43 Mocking Jay

Uh... stupid asshole forgets that that money has been put in over 40+ years.

I.e. -- not adjusted for inflation.

45 Gus  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:08:14am

And COLAs.

46 Obdicut  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:08:17am

re: #44 Gus

And even if it weren't-- so? What's the point? They are using more resources than they purposefully contributed. That'll happen, in any group insurance scheme. That happens with private insurance.

That guy is stupider than a flamingo's ass.

47 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:08:41am

re: #11 Gus

Going slightly OT but don't look now. NRO is at it again and this time Victor Davis Hanson gets into the "racialist" act... National Review’s Victor Davis Hanson Has Thoughts About Black People.

Here's what I don't like about Wonkette:

It’s time to be serious for a second

A second is about all they can muster. I'd like to see a more serious ripping of VDH for that article.

48 Mocking Jay  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:08:49am

re: #44 Gus

I.e. -- not adjusted for inflation.

But does that also figure for interest?

49 Gus  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:09:25am

re: #48 Mocking Jay

But does that also figure for interest?

And interest. All of the above.

50 Kragar  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:09:41am

Tea Party Nation: America Won't Elect Black President 'For a Generation or Two' Because of Obama

Yesterday, Tea Party Nation sent out an article to members by activist Alan Caruba, warning that President Obama is not only bad for the black community but also that Americans are unlikely to trust a black leader again. Reacting to an interview with comedian D.L. Hughley, where he said Obama should have been more aggressive in responding to right-wing attacks and calling out the endurance of anti-black racism in America, Caruba said that “Obama has been the ‘affirmative action’ President whose life has been characterized by the special treatment he received growing up,” and has therefore been able to get away with having a “forgery” of a birth certificate.

“I believe Obama has made it nearly impossible for a black American to be elected President for a generation or two,” Caruba concluded. “I believe he will be rejected by the voters in November and I believe he will, as he has done throughout his presidency, blame others for it.”

51 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:10:04am

re: #46 Obdicut

And even if it weren't-- so? What's the point? They are using more resources than they purposefully contributed. That'll happen, in any group insurance scheme. That happens with private insurance.

That guy is stupider than a flamingo's ass.

That's the whole basis of insurance, right? The probability that more people will pay into it than take out? Bryan Fischer is such a bag of fail.

52 Ming  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:10:38am

re: #1 Expand Your Ground

My ex-girlfriend from Tucson moved to Douglas, Arizona, down near the border in the 1980's with her new husband. From what I hear, they are in the thick of the Border War.

Sometimes they even benefit from it, I hear they have found several abandoned coyote vehicles on their property, mostly Nissan Pathfinders. They duly report them to the police, and if nobody comes to claim them (which nobody does) they get to keep them.

But I hear that her hubby has joined the Minutemen, erected a 30-foot observation tower on their property and was recently in a radio interview complaining about a law requiring residents to give water to people lost in the desert. he said he would do so, but only grudgingly and because the law compels him to do so.

I work in Maricopa County, around 120 miles north of Tucson. I don't know much about the border situation. But I can report that in the three years that I've worked out here, sometimes (maybe once every 6 months) someone I know mentions something about the Tucson area, which makes it sound like it's in a war zone. I've visited Tucson twice, and I never noticed anything out of the ordinary. But it's interesting to hear people in the Phoenix area talk about Tucson. Apparently, the "border situation" is having a real impact on daily life down there.

53 makeitstop  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:10:41am
54 Gus  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:10:57am

re: #46 Obdicut

And even if it weren't-- so? What's the point? They are using more resources than they purposefully contributed. That'll happen, in any group insurance scheme. That happens with private insurance.

That guy is stupider than a flamingo's ass.

Correct. Insurance isn't based on a one to one ratio.

55 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:11:32am

re: #49 Gus

And interest. All of the above.

Which goes a great deal towards telling you that he is not making a logic-based argument, but twisting the numbers in attempting to make as large of an emotional impact as possible. Standard soundbite approach.

56 Bulworth  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:11:53am
Caruba said that “Obama has been the ‘affirmative action’ President whose life has been characterized by the special treatment he received growing up,”

Derp.

57 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:11:56am

re: #50 Kragar

Tea Party Nation: America Won't Elect Black President 'For a Generation or Two' Because of Obama

Yeah, that's been a running theme for awhile, that Obama's presidency has actually been bad for the "black community," their proof generally being comments from the few black Republicans they can scare up about how bad he makes the "black community" look by...well...not being the "scary black man" the Right imagined he would be.

58 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:12:30am

re: #52 Ming

I work in Maricopa County, around 120 miles north of Tucson. I don't know much about the border situation. But I can report that in the three years that I've worked out here, sometimes (maybe once every 6 months) someone I know mentions something about the Tucson area, which makes it sound like it's in a war zone. I've visited Tucson twice, and I never noticed anything out of the ordinary. But it's interesting to hear people in the Phoenix area talk about Tucson. Apparently, the "border situation" is having a real impact on daily life down there.

Yes, the restaurants are doing better because the number of border patrol agents has doubled.

59 Gus  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:12:59am

What's wrong with comment #1? I haz confused.

60 Bulworth  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:13:20am
“I believe Obama has made it nearly impossible for a black American to be elected President for a generation or two,” Caruba concluded

See, this the problem teh blah people didn't think about. By electing a blah person it will make electing a blah person impossible.

I look forward to more thoughtful analysis from teabag nation. //

61 Kragar  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:13:24am

Romney Surrogate Complicates Campaign’s Medicare Messaging

The Romney campaign is charging that President Obama has cut $700 billion from Medicare. It has been less vocal about the fact that the Ryan plan, too, takes $700 billion from Medicare.

But one Romney surrogate admitted Tuesday morning that Ryan’s plan does make those same cuts.

John Sununu, the former governor of New Hampshire, said the $700 billion in cuts is one of the big differences between the Romney and Ryan plans.

Romney’s plan is “very different,” Sununu said. “When Obama gutted Medicare by taking $717 billion out of it, the Romney plan does not do that,” Sununu said on CNN’s “Starting Point” Tuesday. “The Ryan plan mimicked part of the Obama package there. The Romney plan does not. That’s a big difference.”

The distinction embodies the tough road ahead for Romney: Romney has said he would have signed the Ryan budget, which would have contained the same cuts over which he is currently attacking Obama.

62 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:14:04am

re: #59 Gus

What's wrong with comment #1? I haz confused.

People conflate the actions described with the one who posted it. Dings mean different things to different people.

63 blueraven  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:14:15am

re: #46 Obdicut

And even if it weren't-- so? What's the point? They are using more resources than they purposefully contributed. That'll happen, in any group insurance scheme. That happens with private insurance.

That guy is stupider than a flamingo's ass.

Many people pay in for 40 years and then die, before ever collecting one penny.

They dont understand how this works.

64 SpaceJesus  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:14:16am

I love the part where Joe decries the holocaust in one breath, and in the other advocates the wholesale slaughter of women and children from guard towers

65 Randall Gross  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:14:48am

Why not Canada while we are at it Joe? Oh... it's just those brown skinned immigrants you don't like.

66 Obdicut  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:14:54am

re: #59 Gus

What's wrong with comment #1? I haz confused.

I dunno. I guess some people read it as though it were approving what it was reporting.

67 Bulworth  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:15:03am

re: #61 Kragar

Not sure I understand Romneybot's wanting John Focking Sununu to be out front for his campaign, on TV, like this. But I don't wish to concern troll.

68 Kragar  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:15:15am

re: #64 SpaceJesus

Tea Partiers aren't really big on valid comparisons.

69 jaunte  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:15:18am

re: #63 blueraven

Fischer knows how it works, he's just a manipulative liar.

70 Gus  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:15:41am

re: #63 blueraven

Many people pay in for 40 years and then die, before ever collecting one penny.

They dont understand how this works.

Or simply that it's part of an insurance POOL.

71 lawhawk  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:16:36am

re: #51 Learned Mother of Zion

This is why actuaries are paid the big bucks - to figure out the threshold figures on insurance programs and whether they are sustainable. Not everyone who pays into Medicare ends up spending as much as they put in.

In fact, about 10% of Medicare recipients are responsible for 58% of expenditures.

In any given year, a relatively small share of the Medicare population, ten percent, accounts for a majority (58 percent) of all Medicare spending (Exhibit 6). Average Medicare spending for beneficiaries who are in the top ten percent of the Medicare population ($48,210) was nearly six times greater than the average across all beneficiaries in 2006 ($8,344).

Source: Kaiser Family Foundation. Finding a way to reduce the costs due to that 10% would lead to significant health care cost savings without bankrupting the system.

72 Daniel Ballard  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:16:57am

re: #59 Gus

What's wrong with comment #1? I haz confused.

Nothing. +1

73 Bulworth  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:17:07am
Romney’s plan is “very different,” Sununu said. “When Obama gutted Medicare by taking $717 billion out of it, the Romney plan does not do that,”

So, gubmit spending is out of control, Obama is the biggest gubmit spending evah, except he 'gutted' Medicare and President RomneyRyan won't 'gut' Medicare but they'll cut all the wasteful spending, increase defense spending and cut taxes more. Sigh...

74 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:17:34am

re: #65 Randall Gross

Why not Canada while we are at it Joe? Oh... it's just those brown skinned immigrants you don't like.

Maybe he should stand outside the immigration offices and get the ones who missed the visa renewal deadlines too.

75 blueraven  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:17:35am

re: #69 jaunte

Fischer knows how it works, he's just a manipulative liar.

quite so...he is a carrier of stupidity.

76 Gus  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:18:43am
77 Bulworth  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:18:43am

re: #75 blueraven

quite so...he is a carrier of stupidity.

But none dare say Fischer and the tealiban are fomenting class warfare/hatred....

78 Kragar  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:19:33am

re: #77 Bulworth

Why do you hate America?

79 makeitstop  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:20:11am

re: #61 Kragar

Romney Surrogate Complicates Campaign’s Medicare Messaging

You'd think an old dog like Sununu would know better.

And it's pretty funny that all these surrogates are talking about what Rmoney's plan isn't, but they can't bring themselves to say what the plan would actually do.

80 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:21:31am

re: #65 Randall Gross

Why not Canada while we are at it Joe? Oh... it's just those brown skinned immigrants you don't like.

When the boat people start coming across Lake Erie, landing at Sandusky, and claiming asylum I'm sure Joe will be right there advocating that they just be thrown back into the water.
///

81 Bulworth  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:21:32am

re: #79 makeitstop

You'd think an old dog like Sununu would know better.

And it's pretty funny that all these surrogates are talking about what Rmoney's plan isn't, but they can't bring themselves to say what the plan would actually do.

Romney's plan would save Medicare, cut wasteful spending, eliminate the debt, cut taxes, increase defense spending and rescue Amercia. What about this plan don't you understand? //

82 Kragar  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:22:08am

Paul Ryan’s Family Business Built On Government Contracts


A current search of Defense Department contracts suggests that “Ryan Incorporated Central” has had at least 22 defense contracts with the federal government since 1996, including one from 1996 worth $5.6 million. … Mr. Anti-Spending secured millions in earmarks for his home state of Wisconsin, including, among other things, $3.3 million for highway projects. And Ryan voted to preserve $40 billion in special subsidies for big oil, an industry in which, it so happens, Ryan and his wife hold ownership stakes.

Yet in his first speech as Romney’s running-mate, Ryan joined in on the attacks on President Obama for believing that those whose businesses are successful, in part succeed because “somebody invested in roads and bridges.” Ryan proclaimed that he was “proud to stand with a man who understands what it takes to foster job creation in our economy, someone who knows from experience, that if you have a small business—you did build that.”

83 Bulworth  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:22:55am
Ryan proclaimed that he was “proud to stand with a man who understands what it takes to foster job creation in our economy, someone who knows from experience, that if you have a small business—you did build that.”

Bain is a small business?

84 Mattand  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:23:29am

Would it be too much to ask ABC, that since they're giving this fuckwad free publicity, to report the fact that deportations are up under Obama's administration?

85 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:23:35am

re: #81 Bulworth

Romney's plan would save Medicare, cut wasteful spending, eliminate the debt, cut taxes, increase defense spending and rescue Amercia. What about this plan don't you understand? //

I hear it can be used as a dessert topping or a floorwax as well...

O_o

Do not taunt Romney Fun Plan!

86 AK-47%  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:23:56am

re: #38 wrenchwench

There is no 'Border War'. People who say there is are dangerous, and lying to you.

They moved to what was once a complete backwater. now it has become a much more dangerous place to live.

87 Batman  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:24:16am

Charles, you have him as "Joe Wurzelbacher," but it's Sam. Joe's his fake name. It's in the quotation, but just thought I'd point it out.

88 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:24:56am

re: #61 Kragar

Romney Surrogate Complicates Campaign’s Medicare Messaging

So Willard says "I'd have signed that budget," to which his opponents declare "Challenge accepted!" Now his surrogates are spending every day arguing that Romney doesn't agree with one section after another plucked from Ryan's budget, but totally unable to tell folks what their candidate would do instead.

So tell us, Candidate Romney, how exactly did you think you were helping a campaign buried up to its fucking eyeballs in questions that have kept it on the defense for weeks by dumping a dumptruck full of more questions atop it?!

89 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:24:58am

re: #84 Mattand

Would it be too much to ask ABC, that since they're giving this fuckwad free publicity, to report the fact that deportations are up under Obama's administration?

And border crossings are down. But it's not hermetically sealed yet, so that doesn't count. Never mind the billions of dollars worth of cross-border commerce.

90 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:25:27am

re: #87 Batman

Thanks - I just caught that myself and corrected it.

91 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:26:35am

re: #80 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

When the boat people start coming across Lake Erie, landing at Sandusky, and claiming asylum I'm sure Joe will be right there advocating that they just be thrown back into the water.
///

The Detroit river used to be the "one more river to cross" in the old spirituals.

92 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:27:11am

re: #89 wrenchwench

And border crossings are down. But it's not hermetically sealed yet, so that doesn't count. Never mind the billions of dollars worth of cross-border commerce.

And, of course, until border crossing are totally stopped, we can't talk about immigration reform because that might mean we'd have to tackle the problem of people already here, meaning we might have to *gasp!* talk about some form of amnesty!

93 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:27:24am

re: #91 Learned Mother of Zion

The Detroit river used to be the "one more river to cross" in the old spirituals.

But that was dark-skinned people headed *to* Canada. Joe is all for that...
///

94 Kragar  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:27:43am

re: #90 Charles Johnson

You never have to thank Batman.
/

95 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:28:33am

OT: The actor who played Horshak on "Welcome Back Kotter" has died.

96 AK-47%  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:28:55am

re: #94 Kragar

You never have to thank Batman.
/

You can just grease his bat pole occasionally...

97 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:30:20am

re: #94 Kragar

You never have to thank Batman.
/

Because he's the proofreader we deserve, but not the one we need right now.

98 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:31:48am

re: #95 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

OT: The actor who played Horshak on "Welcome Back Kotter" has died.

This has not been a great year for the Sweat Hogs.

99 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:32:02am

re: #96 Expand Your Ground

You can just grease his bat pole occasionally...

...

That sounded better in your head, didn't it?

/

100 Mattand  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:32:03am

re: #94 Kragar

You never have to thank Batman.
/

He's the editor LGF deserves.

re: #96 Expand Your Ground

You can just grease his bat pole occasionally...

Umm.. ewwww?

101 Mattand  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:32:50am

re: #97 What Would Spalding Gray Do?

Because he's the proofreader we deserve, but not the one we need right now.

What Would Spalding Gray Do? Post a Batman quote faster than me, apparently.

102 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:34:51am

re: #95 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

OT: The actor who played Horshak on "Welcome Back Kotter" has died.

RIP Ron. Loved his character on WBK. "Horshak is an old and respected name from my village. It means 'the cattle are dying'".

103 Lidane  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 10:39:11am

re: #50 Kragar

Tea Party Nation: America Won't Elect Black President 'For a Generation or Two' Because of Obama

Er...hasn't America already elected a black president because of Obama?

104 DodgerFan1988  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 11:33:54am

The GOP can now kiss the Hispanic vote goodbye.

105 DesertDenizen  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 1:23:24pm

re: #86 Expand Your Ground

I live in Cochise County, less than half a mile from the border. I go to Douglas often. Every time I hike more than 20 yards off the road BP visits me within 15 minutes to see who I am. Wrenchwench is correct, there is no "Border War". There is much less violence here than up in Tucson and Phoenix. The "Border War" hype isn't much different than the hype of Iran. Fear makes money.

106 Patricia Kayden  Tue, Aug 14, 2012 4:51:22pm

So was Joe the Plumber vigorously denounced by his fellow Republicans for making such a racist, xenophobic and violent comment? Hmmmm, I wonder why Hispanics (and other racial minorities) just aren't into the Republicans. Just can't put my finger on it.


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