Developing: Anti-Government Terrorists Murder Two Louisiana Sheriffs

At least one is connected to anti-government Posse Comitatus
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This is a consequence of anti-government militias operating across the nation with unfettered access to firearms. Two Louisiana sheriff deputies assassinated and two others were injured outside New Orleans. Five people are now in custody in relation to the actions:

A gunman shot and wounded a St. John Parish deputy while he was directing traffic at about 5 a.m. CDT in an off-site parking lot for the Valero Energy Corp.’s St. Charles refinery, St. John Parish Sheriff Mike Tregre said.

The gunman fled, and officers investigating the incident ended up at a trailer park in LaPlace, about 25 miles west of New Orleans. As they were interviewing two suspects, someone came out of a trailer with an assault weapon and shot dead the two officers, Tregre said.

“Two of my officers were ambushed, I want to say assassinated,” he said during a press conference on Thursday afternoon.

Police have not said how the fourth officer involved was wounded.

The slain deputies were identified as Brandon Nielsen, 34, and Jeremy Triche, 27. The wounded deputies were identified as Scott Boyington and Jason Triche. The Triches are related, but Tregre could not say how.

Tregre said the wounded officers remain hospitalized and described the condition of one as “improving.” He gave no details of their injuries.

More recent reports indicate that seven people are now in custody and have been indicted in relation to the shootings.

And who are the people arrested? It appears that at least one is involved in the anti-government group Posse Comitatus. Five have been under surveillance by law enforcement for making terroristic threats.

Authorities believe that suspect, Kyle Joekel, 29, may have ties to anti-government groups, in particular a loose organization known as Posse Comitatus that generally doesn’t recognize authority above the level of county sheriff. The name of the group means “power of the county” in Latin, according to the Anti-Defamation League’s website.

Group members refuse to recognize various aspects of federal authority, and some refuse to pay taxes. The group has been associated with citizen militias as well as neo-Nazi organizations.

Lt. Robert Davidson of the DeSoto Parish Sheriff’s office told The Shreveport Times that the suspects in custody include Kyle Joekel, Brian Smith, Terry Smith, 44, and Derrick Smith, 22. Terry Smith is the father of both Derrick and Brian Smith, according to Davidson, who identified. Brian Smith and Joekel as the shooters in the incident. Davidson said he did not know the name of the other suspects.

Authorities this morning confirmed the four suspects named by Davidson, plus two women: Chanel Skains, 37, and Teniecha Bright, 21.

Joekel had had run-ins with the law in Gage County, Neb., and Marshall County, Kan., last year and was considered a fugitive in both places.

My thoughts and prayers go out to the officers and their families and friends. They were targeted by anti-government militia-types who do not consider the government to be legitimate. They lost their lives while serving and protecting others from the likes of these groups.

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115 comments
1 Randall Gross  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 12:22:58pm

I wondered about this when I saw it all started over expired plates.

2 Randall Gross  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 12:26:42pm

Here's the video from yesterday, warning, this is pretty heart rending:

3 Kragar  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 12:30:08pm

Obviously another false flag operation orchestrated by Obama.
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4 Gus  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 12:31:21pm

Prepare for the onslaught of the defensive gibberish from the usual suspects.

5 Origuy  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 12:31:25pm
The Triches are related, but Tregre could not say how.

It would probably take a degree in topology to draw the family tree.

6 Schadenfreude 'r' Us  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 12:33:54pm

They were all lefties, giving Real Amurrcans a bad name! Lefties, I say!

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7 dragonfire1981  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 12:35:40pm

Ok, FRC, now please denounce this harshly...

8 Kragar  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 12:37:00pm

Lone wolves obviously.

9 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 12:37:27pm

I am now reading Sandberg's Lincoln, and the similarities between then and now, the things that don't change, are striking.

The willingness of evil men to do bad in pursuit of their own causes is clearly one of them.

However, honestly...I thought conservatives were supposed to like law enforcement officers.

10 Kragar  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 12:38:01pm

re: #9 Mostly sane, most of the time.

I am now reading Sandberg's Lincoln, and the similarities between then and now, the things that don't change, are striking.

The willingness of evil men to do bad in pursuit of their own causes is clearly one of them.

However, honestly...I thought conservatives were supposed to like law enforcement officers.

Only when they are doing God's work.

11 Lidane  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 12:39:47pm

re: #3 Kragar

Obviously another false flag operation orchestrated by Obama.
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Quick! Someone get Dave Mustaine and Alex Jones on the line so they can let the world know. =P

12 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 12:40:28pm

re: #10 Kragar

Only when they are doing God's work.

Which would be keeping this country from descending into lawless anarchy...like people randomly shooting strangers for no good reason.

13 wrenchwench  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 12:42:36pm

re: #8 Kragar

Lone wolves obviously.

A pack of 'em.

14 Lidane  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 12:43:45pm

Ugh. I had a feeling it was a bunch of "sovereign citizen" nutjobs. It just sounded like something they'd do.

My condolences to the friends and families of the murdered sheriffs.

15 uncah91  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 12:44:23pm

My heart goes out to the officer's families.

But isn't it premature to say that "unfettered" access to firearms caused this?

Every gun is deadly. Unless you eliminate them altogether, guns won't stop being deadly.

16 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 12:44:29pm

Assholes.

17 Kragar  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 12:44:35pm

re: #13 wrenchwench

A pack of 'em.

The most dangerous kind.

18 Gus  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 12:46:43pm

re: #14 Lidane

Ugh. I had a feeling it was a bunch of "sovereign citizen" nutjobs. It just sounded like something they'd do.

My condolences to the friends and families of the murdered sheriffs.

See [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...] and [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

19 Kragar  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 12:47:25pm

Pro-Gun Group Floods Public Library With Armed Protesters, Compares Gun Regulation To Jim Crow

Thirty gun-toting activists protested a public library’s concealed carry policy this week, startling the patrons inside by taking the demonstration — and guns — indoors. The protesters had taken offense to a single sentence explaining the rule: “Carrying concealed weapons is prohibited, except as permitted by law.”

Philip Van Cleave, the organizer of the protest and President of Virginia Citizens Defense League, compared the library’s gun “discrimination” to racially discriminating against African-Americans:

“What if they had said “We don’t allow African-Americans, except if allowed by law. Would that be okay? I don’t think so… [The rule] implies that no one is allowed to protect themselves on the property.”

Another protester told the Richmond Times-Dispatch that public areas shouldn’t be firearm-free, and suggested that if people had been armed during the Colorado movie theater shooting, the mass murderer would have been stopped.

20 Gus  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 12:48:19pm

Kyle David Joekel | Gage County Sheriff's Office

Last known address is XXX, Beatrice.

His date of birth is 10.31.83

The warrant is for Fail to Appear Deliver/Intent to Deliver Controlled Substance Class III Felony; Conspiracy to Commit a Class III Felony; Resist Arest

If you have any information on the whereabouts of this individual, please contact the Gage County Sheriff's Office at 402.223.5221

***Do not attempt to apprehend this individual yourself***

21 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 12:49:33pm

Lovely. "Posse Comitatus". We have lots of those scum up here infesting the northwoods. They're yet another very good reason for all citizens to have a CCW since you can never know when these freaks are going to pop up like cockroaches under the sink.

22 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 12:49:41pm

re: #19 Kragar

Pro-Gun Group Floods Public Library With Armed Protesters, Compares Gun Regulation To Jim Crow

Yeah it's just like that. Seriously, if they want to argue that the law is wrong fine, but don't compare it to Jim Crow you historically insensitive idiots.

23 Gus  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 12:51:43pm

Yes Grover Norquist! Your wish is my command!

24 erik_t  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 12:52:41pm

re: #23 Gus

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Yes Grover Norquist! Your wish is my command!

Grover Wormtongue.

25 darthstar  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 12:52:59pm

re: #23 Gus

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Yes Grover Norquist! Your wish is my command!

Except Paul Ryan will shoot his friend in the face with a bow.

26 Gus  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 12:53:44pm

SPLCenter picks this up:

Suspects in Louisiana Cop Killings May be ‘Sovereign Citizens’
Posted in Sovereign Citizens by Bill Morlin on August 17, 2012

State and federal investigators believe at least two of the five suspects arrested in connection with a shoot-out Thursday that killed two sheriff’s deputies near New Orleans have ties to the sometimes violent, antigovernment “sovereign citizens” movement.

If so, that would mean that sovereigns have now killed four law enforcement officers since May 2010 and wounded several more. The FBI in 2011 labeled sovereigns as comprising a “domestic terrorist movement.”

“I had two officers ambushed – I even want to say assassinated,” St. John the Baptist Parish Sheriff Michael Tregre told reporters at a news conference, The Associated Press reported.

Continues.

27 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 12:54:08pm

re: #23 Gus

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Yes Grover Norquist! Your wish is my command!

At least Cheney unlike Paulie Two Laws had some accomplishments and some administrative skills.

28 uncah91  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 12:55:04pm

re: #23 Gus

Paul Ryan would play 'similar' role to Dick Cheney

What does that even mean? Cheney and Ryan aren't in any way comparable in terms of how much clout they brought/would bring to Capital Hill.

29 efuseakay  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 12:56:03pm

re: #19 Kragar

Pro-Gun Group Floods Public Library With Armed Protesters, Compares Gun Regulation To Jim Crow

Yeah you fools. Just tell those two Sheriffs that they could have saved themselves if only they were allowed to CCW...

30 Gus  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 12:56:28pm
31 Charles Johnson  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 12:57:15pm

This is yet another case that vindicates the DHS report on domestic terrorism that sent the right wing into rage-gasms.

We had a lot of people at LGF who utterly melted down over that DHS report, insisted that it was unfairly targeting conservatives. A lot of them started proudly calling themselves "right wing terrorists" to mock the DHS. Lots of flounces ensued.

And there's evidence the DHS may have actually moved the domestic terrorism issue to a lower priority because of the massive wingnut freak-out.

32 Gus  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 12:57:47pm
33 dragonfire1981  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 12:58:22pm

Ok, I'm going over this in my mind here.

Let's say for the sake of argument:

- I am a so-called "sovereign citizen"
- I have a strong dislike of Government, Liberals, Communists, etc.
- I own a small assortment of weapons
- Some might describe me as paranoid
- I consider myself a very independent person who can look after myself in all respects

Now, given all that, I can't seem to figure out why I would shoot two cops. I mean ok, dislike and government and all, but cops aren't exactly government and while they are authority I would think even most sovereign citizen types wouldn't consider them a threat of any kind unless they show up on your property for some reason (and even then it'd be foolish to just open fire).

34 Gus  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 12:59:26pm
35 Gus  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 1:01:46pm

re: #32 Gus

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This is bullshit. Trying to get a name from SPLC.

36 Gus  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 1:02:02pm

Bullshit as in not allowing her to speak.

37 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 1:02:47pm

re: #33 dragonfire1981

Law enforcement officers are often the most visible parts of "government" and they're the ones who frequently enforce the acts of government.

So, what most people would consider a lawful vehicle stop (say for license plates, missing light, or speeding) can quickly escalate because as a member of the sovereign citizen or Posse Comitatus group don't consider the underlying act valid - the stop.

38 Kragar  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 1:03:07pm

Why Would a ‘Mainstream Conservative Think Tank’ Praise the ‘Kill the Gays’ Law?

Dana Milbank writes in a column in today’s Washington Post, “Hateful speech on hate groups,” that the Southern Poverty Law Center “should stop listing a mainstream Christian advocacy group alongside neo-Nazis and Klansmen.” He’s talking about the Family Research Council, which he describes as “a mainstream conservative think tank founded by James Dobson and run for many years by Gary Bauer” which “advocates for a full range of conservative Christian positions, on issues from stem cells to euthanasia.” Going further, Milbank says it’s “reckless” for groups like SPLC to designate FRC as a “hate group.”

While reading all of this, I couldn’t help but wonder why a “mainstream conservative think tank” would defend a bill in Uganda that would put gays and lesbians in prison for life and put them to death for “serial” offenses, among other things. If Milbank had done his homework before writing his column, he would’ve been wondering this same thing.

39 Gus  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 1:03:16pm
40 Gus  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 1:03:35pm

Obama's fault!

Wait. What?

41 The Questionable Timing of a Flea  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 1:05:16pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

Daryl Johnson: I tried to warn the. I wrote the infamous report that led Homeland Security to gut its right-wing terrorism unit.

Roger Hedgecock, an ultra-conservative “shock jock” based in Southern California, admitted to receiving the official intelligence report from an anonymous individual. By April 12, 2009, Hedgecock had pushed the report into the public domain using his radio program as well as an article he published in World Net Daily (a conservative “free press” media outlet based in Medford, Ore). Hedgecock wrongfully claimed the DHS report demonized veterans and classified all conservatives as potential terrorists.

At the time, few knew that Hedgecock was playing political games. DHS made no effort to refute his claims. As a result, Hedgecock took information out of context and made false assumptions about the report’s origins and was virtually unchallenged in doing so. He politicized some of the report’s findings (specifically the report’s definition of right-wing extremism and the statements about veterans) in an attempt to embarrass a newly elected presidential administration.

Hedgecock’s story was soon aired by Fox News and touted by prominent conservative media figures like Lou Dobbs, Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh and Michelle Malkin. Collectively, they characterized the DHS report as politically motivated, a poorly written attack on conservative Americans and lacking any factual basis. Most other news organizations reported a fairly objective view of the report that focused on “the warning” from DHS about right-wing extremists.

Conservative media coverage incited a vehement reaction from Republican legislators on Capitol Hill. Congress passed a formal inquiry into the controversy and questioned DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano about it during departmental budget hearings.

DHS’ silence on the matter exasperated the situation. It certainly emboldened Hedgecock and his supporters. The lack of an honest public affairs response from DHS fed into the opposition’s lies.

In the face of enormous media and congressional criticism, DHS made the decision to cancel all of its domestic terrorism-related reporting and training for law enforcement. It also instituted a new grueling vetting process, which essentially stopped all work at DHS on this now “politically charged” topic. Within three months after the leak, DHS officials deliberately eviscerated the team of analysts responsible for monitoring domestic terrorist threats and assigned them to different office responsibilities. Subject matter experts left the agency as a result — leaving a single analyst to perform the massive amount of work needed during a period of heightened domestic terrorist activity throughout the country.

42 Kragar  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 1:05:37pm

re: #40 Gus

Obama's fault!

Wait. What?

Romney is going to need a bigger whiteboard.

43 dragonath  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 1:07:27pm

Romney Family Overruled Advisers

Sources close to the campaign and family tell McKay Coppins that Ann Romney and her five sons urged Mitt Romney to go with his gut and pick Rep. Paul Ryan as his running mate -- even as most of the other campaign advisers expressed their doubts.

"Romney, who has long trusted his wife's 'people instincts,' gave substantial weight to her endorsement, which, combined with his own personal preference for Ryan, was enough to overrule his advisers' concerns."

That's right. Her "people instincts."

44 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 1:07:51pm

DHS was right about the right wing extremists. And they were also right that these groups would try to elicit support from veterans. Of course the stupid wingnuts are convinced that only Muslims commit act of terrorism in this country. Sigh. This is another tragedy.

45 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 1:09:07pm

re: #43 dragonath

Romney Family Overruled Advisers

That's right. Her "people instincts."

Man this is really feeling like a Palin 2.0. I wonder who the advisers wanted though. Portman? Rubio? Pawlenty? Or someone else who we didn't hear named.

46 erik_t  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 1:09:09pm

re: #43 dragonath

Romney Family Overruled Advisers

That's right. Her "people instincts."

Well, that's reassuring. There are only a few people in that campaign who are certainly pants-on-head idiots.

I was starting to doubt the future of humanity.

47 Interesting Times  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 1:10:35pm

File under "Water wet, sky blue, nothing Romney says is true":

48 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 1:11:16pm

re: #47 Interesting Times

File under "Water wet, sky blue, nothing Romney says is true":

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Speaks volumes about his credibility and smarts or there lack of.

49 The Questionable Timing of a Flea  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 1:15:22pm

re: #47 Interesting Times

Anti-Obama Navy SEAL leader: I'm a Birther | The Cable

Bailey, who is part of the leadership of SOS's effort to mobilize thousands to take to the streets to denounce Obama's treatment of the military through an SOS project called Operation Street Corner, doesn't only believe that the president is a foreigner. He also believes that he is not actually the son of Barack Obama, Sr. Bailey trumpeted the conspiracy theory that the president is actually the love child of Ann Dunham and writer Frank Marshall Davis.

"In his books, Obama said his mentor was a fellow named Frank Marshall Davis. Frank Marshall Davis was a member of Communist Party USA, he wrote for the communist party's Hawaii newsletter, he was a close friend of Obama's mother, and there's a strong case that Frank Marshall Davis rather than Barack Obama, Sr. was Barack Obama, Jr.'s father and that Barack Obama, Sr. was just an administrative father of convenience," Bailey said.

So this guy believes BHO had two US-born parents and is still ineligible because of "birther" claims?

I think he's saying the president is near.

50 Gus  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 1:18:02pm

Hate Group Leader Threatens $100 Million Lawsuit Against SPLC

Joining the chorus of anti-gay conservatives blaming the Southern Poverty Law Center’s “hate group” labels for Wednesday’s tragic shooting at the Family Research Council, internet evangelist Bill Keller has threatened to sue the SPLC for $100 million if it does not take him and his ministry LivePrayer.com off its “hate group” list...

Continues.

51 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 1:18:45pm

re: #49 The Ghost of a Flea

So this guy believes BHO had two US-born parents and is still ineligible because of "birther" claims?

I think he's saying the president is near.

Gosh he's a bigger idiot than I thought if he's a birther and believes Frank Davis is Obama's biological father. Guy isn't too bright is he.

52 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 1:19:34pm

re: #50 Gus

Hate Group Leader Threatens $100 Million Lawsuit Against SPLC

SPLC to hate group, stop being hateful assholes and we'll gladly take you off our list. Idiots.

53 Interesting Times  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 1:20:04pm

Frightening at multiple levels:

54 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 1:20:47pm

Keep in mind the central image of the Tea Party: armed uprising against a tyrannical ruler who taxed us without representation.

Except last that I heard, our government, if far from perfect, is still legal, constitutional and freely elected, and taxes us through the power vested in our freely elected representatives.

55 The Questionable Timing of a Flea  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 1:21:51pm

re: #50 Gus

Hate Group Leader Threatens $100 Million Lawsuit Against SPLC

But remember, we should be worried about this atmosphere of censorship that tells people to boycott Chick-Fil-A or not advertise on Rush Limbaugh.

56 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 1:21:52pm

re: #50 Gus

Discovery's a bitch. Did you support the position that gays and lesbians should be imprisoned?
Did you support position that gays and lesbians should be murdered because they were gay or lesbian?

I'm not sure FRC really wants to put on a case against SPLC. It could end quite badly for them.

57 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 1:22:40pm

re: #54 Expand Your Ground

Keep in mind the central image of the Tea Party: armed uprising against a tyrannical ruler who taxed us without representation.

Except last that I heard, our government, if far from perfect, is still legal, constitutional and freely elected, and taxes us through the power vested in our freely elected representatives.

That fact always gets in the way when they're distorting the blood of tyrants and patriots on the liberty tree quote. These guys are our elected officials. They don't have to like them by law but they are legitimately in office. and that includes POTUS whether they like him or not.

58 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 1:24:22pm

So, is the FBI wrong to list the Juggalos?

59 Lidane  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 1:25:03pm

re: #42 Kragar

Romney is going to need a bigger whiteboard.

You betcha:

Analysis: Paul Ryan Voted to Add $6.8 Trillion to the Federal Debt

Fiscal conservatism!

60 engineer cat  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 1:26:12pm

no new national polls since the ryan announcement? it's been nearly a week...

gallup tracking has had romney 2 points ahead for three days straight, but they have always been much closer than other polls. rassmussen tracking has obama a point ahead today

61 Bulworth  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 1:26:19pm

re: #39 Gus

Obama is buying off The Fed which isn't Independent and is pumping all kinds of non-gold money all around and too much money and inflated currency and arglegbarglearglebllelel!

62 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 1:26:30pm

re: #59 Lidane

You betcha:

Analysis: Paul Ryan Voted to Add $6.8 Trillion to the Federal Debt

Fiscal conservatism!

But but he's a budget hawk, why just ask him and Mitt Romney, they'll you the truth not the facts.

63 Lidane  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 1:27:42pm

re: #44 HappyWarrior

DHS was right about the right wing extremists. And they were also right that these groups would try to elicit support from veterans. Of course the stupid wingnuts are convinced that only Muslims commit act of terrorism in this country. Sigh. This is another tragedy.

Pfft. What does DHS know? It's been infected with teh ghey:

Geraldo Rivera: Napolitano Has Orchestrated A ‘Same-Sex Takeover’ Of Homeland Security

64 Targetpractice  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 1:27:56pm

re: #39 Gus

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It's all a bubble, it'll pop any day now. Greece is gonna pull out tomorrow, China's gonna collapse the day after, and GM's about to go bankrupt again. The economic collapse is nigh!

65 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 1:28:28pm

re: #60 engineer cat

no new national polls since the ryan announcement? it's been nearly a week...

gallup tracking has had romney 2 points ahead for three days straight, but they have always been much closer than other polls. rassmussen tracking has obama a point ahead today

Aren't Rassmusen polls known to slightly favor Republicans? Anyhow, a constant I'm noticing is outside of Indiana, Romney really hasn't caught Obama in any of the states that Obama flipped to the Democrats in 2008. That's not the best of signs.

66 Targetpractice  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 1:28:39pm

re: #59 Lidane

You betcha:

Analysis: Paul Ryan Voted to Add $6.8 Trillion to the Federal Debt

Fiscal conservatism!

Yeah, but he feels really, really bad about all those votes now and would totally vote in the opposition if he could.

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67 Randall Gross  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 1:28:45pm

I got a laugh out of that Dana Milbank article, -- trying to say that Gary Bauer is "Mainstream" just destroyed the last nth of credibility that Milbank had.

68 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 1:29:04pm

re: #63 Lidane

Geraldo Rivera: Napolitano Has Orchestrated A ‘Same-Sex Takeover’ Of Homeland Security

I saw that earlier. Just when you thought his likening wearing a hoodie to being a gang member was the most stupid thing the guy could said, he does this.

69 Bulworth  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 1:30:00pm

re: #67 Randall Gross

I got a laugh out of that Dana Milbank article, -- trying to say that Gary Bauer is "Mainstream" just destroyed the last nth of credibility that Milbank had.

That's why kooks like Bauer run for president. They mainstream themselves and their organizations in the eyes of our media villagers.

70 The Questionable Timing of a Flea  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 1:32:27pm

re: #67 Randall Gross

I got a laugh out of that Dana Milbank article, -- trying to say that Gary Bauer is "Mainstream" just destroyed the last nth of credibility that Milbank had.

[Searches Gary Bauer on RightWingWatch.]

They've had some contractors in to expand the Overton Window I see.

71 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 1:33:41pm

Gary Bauer? Doesn't he have connections to Alan Keyes who as we all know is pretty certifiable.

72 Targetpractice  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 1:34:00pm

re: #60 engineer cat

no new national polls since the ryan announcement? it's been nearly a week...

gallup tracking has had romney 2 points ahead for three days straight, but they have always been much closer than other polls. rassmussen tracking has obama a point ahead today

I've been following Electoral Vote and TPM's poll tracker for awhile now, and both seem to show a board thrown into disarray now that Ryan's joined the race. Even if you disregard Rasmussen, Obama's former lead somewhere in the 300s has been shaved down to 280s by states going back "into play."

73 Lidane  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 1:34:25pm

re: #70 The Ghost of a Flea

[Searches Gary Bauer on RightWingWatch.]

They've had some contractors in to expand the Overton Window I see.

Yep. And those contractors used underpaid illegal immigrant labor to cut costs, too. Genius!

74 Gus  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 1:34:35pm
75 Gus  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 1:35:31pm

Was that too mean?

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76 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 1:36:32pm

Who does Dana Milbank think he's fooling when he says they're not a hate group? Non hate groups don't use David Duke's mailing list when looking for supporters and that's exactly what Perkins did. Not to mention that they repeatedly call gay and lesbians pedophiles.

77 Kragar  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 1:37:03pm

re: #74 Gus

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Send him this one

78 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 1:38:05pm

re: #77 Kragar

Send him this one

There's another example too. Really the FRC's actions and positions consistently show they're a hate group. Just because they don't wear hoods and attack people on the streets doesn't mean they're not hateful pricks.

79 Kragar  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 1:38:22pm

Tony Perkins says there is a 'Clear Link' between the FRC Shooting and Obama Administration Policies

After trying to blame the Southern Poverty Law Center for the deplorable shooting that occurred at the Family Research Council’s office this week, FRC president Tony Perkins today also implicated the Obama administration in the shooting. While speaking with Rick Santorum today on Washington Watch Weekly about the Obama administration’s “attack on religious freedom,” Perkins said that what “we witnessed this past week at the Family Research Council” is “clearly linked to that same atmosphere of hostility that’s created by the public policies of an administration that’s indifferent or hostile to religious freedom.” This shameful attempt to connect the Obama administration to the shooting is just the latest sign of the FRC’s attempt to exploit the tragedy for political purposes.

80 Four More Tears  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 1:39:10pm

re: #66 Targetpractice

Yeah, but he feels really, really bad about all those votes now and would totally vote in the opposition if he could.

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Only a week, and he's already absorbed some important lessons from Mitt. What a quick learner!

81 Lidane  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 1:39:43pm

re: #62 HappyWarrior

But but he's a budget hawk, why just ask him and Mitt Romney, they'll you the truth not the facts.

Heh:

Obama Camp Also Uses Whiteboard In New Web Video

82 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 1:39:46pm

re: #79 Kragar

Tony Perkins says there is a 'Clear Link' between the FRC Shooting and Obama Administration Policies

Completely goddamned unhinged. Only a delusional idiots thinks policies that promote gay equality are linked with violence against people who don't believe in rights for gays. This is of course from the same line of thought that brought you "Some Nazis were gay, so it's okay to discriminate against gays because homosexuality and Nazism are one and the same." It's simply moronic to think that way.

83 Gus  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 1:40:23pm
84 Bulworth  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 1:40:43pm
“clearly linked to that same atmosphere of hostility that’s created by the public policies of an administration that’s indifferent or hostile to religious freedom.”

It's all about the pill. Damn sluts. //

85 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 1:42:07pm

The administration is hostile to religious freedom? Coming from the people who want Christianity and secular law to be merged, that's awfully hilarious. Perkins should go back to looking at David Duke's mailing list and take a good look at himself. He is a bigot.

86 Kragar  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 1:42:23pm

All charges dropped against Planned Parenthood

The nation’s first criminal prosecution of Planned Parenthood came to an end this afternoon when prosecutors announced they were dismissing the last of the charges against Planned Parenthood.

Johnson County District Attorney Steve Howe and Kansas Attorney General Derek Schmidt made the joint announcement today in a four-page statement that detailed the legal basis for dropping the last 32 charges against the Overland Park-based abortion provider.

The decision to drop the charges brings to an end an eight-year investigation started by former Kansas Attorney General Phill Kline, who brought the criminal complaint against Planned Parenthood after failing to win re-election but was subsequently appointed Johnson County district attorney.

87 Bulworth  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 1:43:30pm

re: #86 Kragar

Didn't realize this was still going on.

88 Gus  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 1:52:03pm
89 Killgore Trout  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 1:54:06pm

Trial delayed again over beard.


Military trial for accused Fort Hood shooter delayed over beard

A military appeals court on Friday officially postponed the court martial for accused Fort Hood shooter Major Nidal Hasan while it decides if the trial judge can order his beard forcibly shaved, U.S. Army officials said on Friday.

90 darthstar  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 1:56:09pm
91 Killgore Trout  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 1:56:21pm

Another hollow forced apology to keep a job...

Touré apologizes for Romney comment

"In retrospect, I muddied the discussion by using the ‘n-word,’” he said on Friday’s show. “I could have made the same point without that word. I shouldn’t have used it, and for that I’m sorry.”

92 Gus  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 1:56:44pm

re: #89 Killgore Trout

Trial delayed again over beard.

Military trial for accused Fort Hood shooter delayed over beard

Oh jeez. What a waste of time. Let him keep the beard. Like it makes any difference at this point.

93 Targetpractice  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 1:57:05pm

re: #90 darthstar

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Maybe he'll tease about releasing some taxes.

94 darthstar  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 1:57:50pm
95 Gus  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 1:58:59pm

BBL

96 Killgore Trout  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 1:59:03pm

re: #92 Gus

Oh jeez. What a waste of time. Let him keep the beard. Like it makes any difference at this point.

Military courts. If they let this slide then people might stop polishing their boots. It would be mayhem!

97 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 1:59:19pm

re: #94 darthstar

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There's a pinnacle? Nobody told me.

Wouldn't it be, like, some unknown guy who was the real Indiana Jones or the real Bourne, but nobody knows who he is because he's not an actor?

98 Targetpractice  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 2:00:43pm

OT:

Quick, let's have a pity party for the dipshit:

Boredom, stress accompany Julian Assange in prison

Julian Assange lives in a pricey building in one of London's toniest districts. But he is not staying in the lap of luxury.

The once globe-trotting WikiLeaks founder is confined to several hundred square feet of space inside Ecuador's London embassy. If he goes outside he will be arrested by British police and extradited to Sweden to be questioned about allegations of sexual assault.

The 41-year-old Australian computer expert has spent almost two months inside the embassy of the Latin American country, which on Thursday granted him asylum — but Ecuador lacks any obvious means of gettingAssange past the police officers on the doorstep, onto a plane and out of Britain.

99 darthstar  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 2:01:57pm

re: #97 Mostly sane, most of the time.

There's a pinnacle? Nobody told me.

Wouldn't it be, like, some unknown guy who was the real Indiana Jones or the real Bourne, but nobody knows who he is because he's not an actor?

Oh, crap...it's me. Sorry, ladies.

100 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 2:06:03pm

re: #98 Targetpractice

OT:

Quick, let's have a pity party for the dipshit:

Boredom, stress accompany Julian Assange in prison

Yep, there are a lot of people who are worthy of my sympathy. Mr. Assenge ain't one of em.

101 Killgore Trout  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 2:06:14pm

re: #98 Targetpractice

OT:

Quick, let's have a pity party for the dipshit:

Boredom, stress accompany Julian Assange in prison

He's gonna love SuperMax.

102 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 2:19:19pm

Posse Comitatus? I had no idea those clowns were still around. I remember growing up in the Northwest in the 80's, they were pretty big, but they kind of faded into the background after awhile. They're the forerunners of the Sovereign Citizen b.s.

103 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 2:28:06pm

Interesting. From some of the comments on the [Link: www.nola.com...] website related to the story:
________________________________________________


tim9lives
From Terry Lyn Smith's Facebook page.

He supports the "Independent Citizens Movement"

The Independent Citizens Movement (or Independent Citizens' Movement) is a conservative political party in the U.S. Virgin Islands that was founded by Virdin C. Brown and Steve O'Reilly in 1968. Its symbol is the torch.

Early history
The party had its first political candidates in 1968, and it ran candidates again in 1970. An advertisement in The Virgin Islands Daily News on June 24, 1970 listed Fabian Martinez as the party's president.

The party's mission, according to a speech by Brown in 1969, is to "give the government back to the people through good, responsive, and responsible leadership." The party's platform was published in The Virgin Islands Daily News on October 26, 1974. The platform includes increasing the autonomy of the Virgin Islands and increased control over the territory's internal affairs, while still remaining a part of the United States.

Party member Cyril E. King successfully ran for governor in 1974. King was succeeded as Governor in turn by his former ICM Lieutenant Governor Juan Francisco Luis who remained in office until 1987.

Recent history
From 1995 to 1997 Victor O. Frazer was Delegate from the U.S. Virgin Islands as the party's candidate, although he served as an independent in the House.
---------
FWIW...he has 120 "friends" on his Facebook page. I bet those "Friends" wish they did not "friend " him.

I haven't looked at the Facebook pages as some of the commentators have recommended.......I don't know if I want to. Likely revolting as hell.

Source: [Link: www.nola.com...]

104 Henchman 26  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 2:30:35pm

Posse Comatosis.

You guys have such fun groups.

105 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 2:32:09pm

re: #43 dragonath

Romney Family Overruled Advisers

That's right. Her "people instincts."

Her "You people" instincts.

106 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 2:34:28pm

re: #98 Targetpractice

OT:

Quick, let's have a pity party for the dipshit:

Boredom, stress accompany Julian Assange in prison

He's not in prison, he's in a freakin' embassy! Even if it feels like a "prison" to him, it's not.

Prisoners get a lot less than "several hundred" square feet. Hell, some New York apartment dwellers don't get that much.

107 Henchman 26  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 2:44:17pm

re: #106 Learned Mother of Zion

He's not in prison, he's in a freakin' embassy! Even if it feels like a "prison" to him, it's not.

Prisoners get a lot less than "several hundred" square feet. Hell, some New York apartment dwellers don't get that much.

In NY, some people have to leave the room to turn around.

108 Jolo5309  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 2:52:42pm

re: #104 b_sharp

Posse Comatosis.

You guys have such fun groups.

Posse Halitosis

109 Romantic Heretic  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 4:03:24pm

re: #46 erik_t

Well, that's reassuring. There are only a few people in that campaign who are certainly pants-on-head idiots.

I was starting to doubt the future of humanity.

I don't. I think we're pretty much fucked.

110 Bubblehead II  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 4:31:56pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

And we now see the results.

111 funky chicken  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 8:55:44pm
generally doesn’t recognize authority above the level of county sheriff

So he shot the county sherriff's deputy who was directing traffic? At 5 am? I'm gonna guess methamphetamine may have been on board in addition to the Posse crap.

112 Amory Blaine  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 9:33:08pm

Yahoo comments are a sewer. Probably the only thing that keeps that foul business profitable.

113 druid for hire  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:54:45am

Developing: Anti-Government Terrorists Murder Two Louisiana Sheriffs
At least one is connected to anti-government Posse Comitatus

this isn't terrorism. it is murder committed to avoid capture. all the government agencies ever IMAGINED could not stop this tragic string of events.

114 Gus  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 12:41:35pm

Not just one of the suspects but two.

SPLC: Two suspects have ties to "sovereign citizens"
Posted: Aug 17, 2012 3:55 PM by Russell Jones
Updated: Aug 17, 2012 6:37 PM

LAPLACE - Two suspects in the deadly shooting of four sheriff's deputies in LaPlace have ties to a domestic terror movement called the "sovereign citizens", according to the Southern Poverty Law Center.

Terry Smith and Kyle Joekel were among seven people arrested in connection with a pair of shootings in St. John the Baptist Parish that resulted in the death of two sheriff's deputies and injuring of two others.

According to the SPLC, Smith identified himself as a sovereign citizen to Tennessee authorities who served him with a search warrant last November. Several weapons were found in the search, but it wasn't clear if Smith was arrested.

The group also said law enforcement sources told them Kyle Joekel may have ties to the sovereign citizens movement. He's wanted in Kansas and Nebraska for several charges, including drug charges.

The FBI identified "sovereign citizens" as a domestic terrorist movement back in 2011. They believe they are not subject to government or law enforcement authority, and can choose what laws to follow or ignore...

115 druid for hire  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 2:30:36pm

we're talking some inbred goob from Louisiana. he's a cop killer. prosecute him to the fullest extent of the law. send him to Angola prison. let him become the lovely bride of some high ranking ayran brother. but don't call him a terrorist.
calling him a terrorist projects a level of organization on this loser i am sure he is not capable of mustering for himself.


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