Missouri GOP Senate Candidate Todd Akin Wants to Repeal Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts

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Missouri Republican Rep. Todd Akin, currently running for the US Senate, says it’s time to take a “second look” at the Voting Rights Act of 1965 and the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

Yes, this is how crazy the Republican Party has gotten.

Republican Congressman Todd Akin said Friday afternoon he thinks it’s time for a second look at federal “civil rights and voting rights” laws.

The republican U.S. senate candidate told FOX 2’s Charles Jaco states not the federal government should set voter rules.

Congressman Akin of course is trying to unseat democratic Senator Claire McCaskill. And Akin has always said the federal government’s role should be much smaller than it is.

But Akin says that federal voting rights laws may need to be looked at, changed or overturned is something new. Those laws were passed in 1964, 1965 and 1968. The voting rights act of 1965 prevented mostly southern states from using things like literacy tests to keep African-Americans from voting. The civil rights act of 1964 outlawed similar voting restrictions.

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274 comments
1 freetoken  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 9:34:16pm
Yes, this is how crazy the Republican Party has gotten.

It's not crazy. It's part of their long term strategy for retaining power.

It is, however, disdainful.

2 Targetpractice  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 9:35:25pm

We just want to give power back to the states! If the state abuse that power, the voters can just move!

3 Gus  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 9:36:27pm

This is not a gaffe.

4 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 9:39:55pm

panda cam.

5 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 9:40:33pm

The article has been revised on Fox 2 's web site to reflect a reply from Congressman Akin (Fox 2 is the local Fox Broadcasting affiliate in St. Louis):

ST. LOUIS, MO (KTVI)– Republican Congressman Todd Akin said Friday afternoon he thinks it’s time for a second look at federal “civil rights and voting rights” laws.

The republican U.S. senate candidate told FOX 2’s Charles Jaco states not the federal government should set voter rules.

Congressman Akin of course is trying to unseat democratic Senator Claire McCaskill. And Akin has always said the federal government’s role should be much smaller than it is.

Other conservatives have also said the voting rights act should get another look. You can see our entire conversation with Congressman Akin on the Jaco report at 8:30 Sunday morning on FOX 2.

Statement from Congressman Todd Akin:

“Congressman Todd Akin believes that the right to vote is fundamental to our country. He supports laws that protect these rights and did not say that he was opposed to the ‘civil rights and voting rights’ laws. Akin has, and always will, support the right to vote.”

(Bolding mine.)

6 Lidane  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 9:40:55pm

It's a feature, not a bug.

Akin is serious, as are a lot of other RWNJ types. This is the 2012 GOP base.

7 Gus  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 9:42:02pm

re: #6 Lidane

It's a feature, not a bug.

Akin is serious, as are a lot of other RWNJ types. This is the 2012 GOP base.

Same place Tony Perkins got his mailing list from.

8 jaunte  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 9:42:05pm
Akin has always said the federal government’s role should be much smaller than it is.

Other conservatives have also said the voting rights act should get another look.

What the hell do they mean "get another look."

9 Targetpractice  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 9:43:07pm

re: #5 Dark_Falcon

The article has been revised on Fox 2 (St. Louis) to reflect a reply from Congressman Akin:

(Bolding mine.)

Yes, we've all seen the double-talk mambo before. "I'm not against such laws, I just think we need to do away with the federal laws and expect the states to pick up the slack."

10 b_sharp  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 9:43:12pm

This is what Ron Paul is advocating and will rewind civil rights back to the intolerable. Whether intentional or not, consequences like racially motivated hiring or education will increase tensions and violence in the poorest communities.

This is a recipe for economic and social failure.

11 Lidane  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 9:44:34pm

re: #8 jaunte

What the hell do they mean "get another look."

Translation: Find a way to disenfranchise everyone who isn't a white Christian conservative Republican without running afoul of the law.

12 b_sharp  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 9:44:59pm

re: #6 Lidane

It's a feature, not a bug.

Akin is serious, as are a lot of other RWNJ types. This is the 2012 GOP base.

I was going to make a quip about Akin being akin to an idiot, but his views aren't funny. He is an idiot.

13 freetoken  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 9:45:44pm

re: #9 Targetpractice

Yes, we've all seen the double-talk mambo before....

Ranks right up there with such favorites as the Walk-back Waltz and the Facetious Fandango.

14 jaunte  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 9:45:57pm

re: #11 Lidane

It's frustrating to see "news" organizations that fail to ask any followup questions on something that basic.

15 Lidane  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 9:46:08pm

re: #10 b_sharp

This is a recipe for economic and social failure.

If people are meant to have civil rights and voting rights, the market will find a way to provide them.

Why do you hate the free market?

.

16 Gus  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 9:46:24pm

re: #5 Dark_Falcon

The article has been revised on Fox 2 (St. Louis) to reflect a reply from Congressman Akin:

(Bolding mine.)

Right. We've all heard this kind of mumbo jumbo back in the 60s. He's saying states should be setting the rules on the federal government. It's the old "state rights argument." Or as Lee Atwater once said:

You start out in 1954 by saying, "ni**er, ni**er, ni**er." By 1968 you can't say "ni**er" — that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states' rights and all that stuff. You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites. And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I'm not saying that. But I'm saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me — because obviously sitting around saying, "We want to cut this," is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than "ni**er, ni**er.

17 dragonath  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 9:46:45pm

re: #5 Dark_Falcon

That sounds an awful lot like a spokesman. It would be mighty odd for a candidate to refer to himself in the third person like that.

18 freetoken  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 9:47:23pm

I'm sure if pressed Akins would claim he is against people suffering malnutrition too, but that wouldn't change his mind on killing School Lunch Programs.

19 Targetpractice  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 9:47:33pm

re: #15 Lidane

.

Nah, it's

Voting's a privilege, one that the state can regulate. If we put "reasonable" restrictions on who can vote, we can weed out all the free-loaders wanting to vote in politicians who'll give'em more handouts!

20 JamesWI  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 9:47:59pm

Ah yes, the old "we should let the states decide whether or not to discriminate against people" argument.

If these people had their way, the South probably would still be segregated.

21 Charles Johnson  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 9:48:14pm

re: #5 Dark_Falcon

Oh, please. This is what Akin said to Charles Jaco:

Jaco: You think it's time to look at or overturn things like the Civil Rights Act of 64 and 66 and the Voting Rights Act that has become involved in a lot of things like redistricting.

Akin: Well, uh, first of all you're talking about elections, elections have historically always been a state thing. And I didn't realize how important or how good that was until we had that very close race with George Bush, and you had something that goes wrong in Florida. I'm thinking, boy it sure is good that the states managed this and not the federal government, otherwise you'd have to re-hold the whole election process. So I do think that the states having a say in how they do the voting in their own state, that was a good principle laid down many many years ago.

YES, he IS talking about repealing the federal Voting Rights Act.

22 Charles Johnson  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 9:49:08pm

"State's rights" is one of the oldest dog whistles in the Republican playbook.

23 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 9:49:50pm

re: #8 jaunte

What the hell do they mean "get another look."

What I think he is referring to is the rules about minority congressional districts and the requirement that some states get DoJ clearance before changing their election laws or finalizing a redistricting, those provisions all being part of the Voting Rights Act of 1965.

As an aside, this is why it has been so much harder for Alabama to enact a Voter ID law as compared with Pennsylvania: Due to its deservedly pre-1965 behavior Alabama essentially has to prove its law does not cause voter suppression, whereas with Pennsylvania it is those suing to block such a law that have the burden of proof upon them.

24 funky chicken  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 9:50:12pm

So this guy opposes birth control, school lunch programs, and voting rights.

Great choice, MO GOP primary voters.

25 Lidane  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 9:50:34pm

re: #20 JamesWI

Ah yes, the old "we should let the states decide whether or not to discriminate against people" argument.

If these people had their way, the South probably would still be segregated.

These imbeciles keep trying to argue that the white majority would have willingly voted to end slavery on their own if they'd just been given more time or some shit.

Right. Because people back then would have willingly voted to get rid of a labor force they not only considered subhuman, but which they owned lock, stock and barrel and which they didn't have to pay for. Bitch plz.

26 b_sharp  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 9:50:46pm

I defended this guy in a previous thread, but I'd like to rewind that support mistake. Some things can be done by States, some need Federal control. Civil rights have already failed at the State level.

27 b_sharp  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 9:51:11pm

re: #17 dragonath

That sounds an awful lot like a spokesman. It would be mighty odd for a candidate to refer to himself in the third person like that.

Bob Dole disagrees.

28 austin_blue  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 9:53:44pm

State's rights!

What could go wrong?

(ahem)

29 Targetpractice  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 9:54:23pm

re: #26 b_sharp

I defended this guy in a previous thread, but I'd like to rewind that support mistake. Some things can be done by States, some need Federal control. Civil rights have already failed at the State level.

Indeed, there's a reason why these laws existed in the first place, it's because the states used to be in charge of handling voting laws and they abused that control in order to keep those they didn't want to have a voice from voting. The Voter ID laws demonstrate rather clearly that those sentiments went nowhere, they're just working within the confines of federal law now.

30 Gus  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 9:54:57pm

Reagan's Neshoba County Fair "states' rights" speech

Eulogizing on Reagan's death, Washington Post columnist William Raspberry noted of the incident:

It was bitter symbolism for black Americans (though surely not just for black Americans). Countless observers have noted that Reagan took the Republican Party from virtual irrelevance to the ascendancy it now enjoys. The essence of that transformation, we shouldn't forget, is the party's successful wooing of the race-exploiting Southern Democrats formerly known as Dixiecrats. And Reagan's Philadelphia appearance was an important bouquet in that courtship.

31 Gus  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 9:55:12pm

Why do conservatives have a tin ear on racism?

32 Charles Johnson  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 9:55:12pm

I don't know why anyone is acting like this isn't something Akin would say -- he's far from the only GOP politician talking about repealing these laws. It's part of the GOP platform in more than one state.

They're not even really trying to hide it. I'm surprised Akin's handlers are even bothering to try to obfuscate his statements.

33 jaunte  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 9:56:11pm

Akin is full of it.
There is a process to modify the requirements of the Voting Rights Act.

Section 5 of the Act requires that the United States Department of Justice, through an administrative procedure, or a three-judge panel of the United States District Court for the District of Columbia, through a declaratory judgment action "preclear" any attempt to change “any voting qualification or prerequisite to voting, or standard, practice, or procedure with respect to voting..." in any "covered jurisdiction."

...snip....

]Bail out
The term "bail out" refers to the process by which covered jurisdictions may seek exemption from Section 5 coverage.[18] In order to bail out, a covered jurisdiction needs to obtain a declaratory judgment from the District Court for the District of Columbia.[5] Eighteen Virginia jurisdictions not covered by Section 5 Preclearance requirements have successfully "bailed out."[18]

Before August 1984, this process required covered jurisdictions to demonstrate that the voting test that they used immediately before coverage was not used in a discriminatory fashion. The 1982 amendment included two significant changes.[18] First, Congress provided that where a state is covered in its entirety, individual counties in that state may separately bail out. Second, Congress completely redesigned the bailout standard. The post-1984 bailout standard requires that a covered jurisdiction demonstrate nondiscriminatory behavior during the 10 years prior to filing and while the action is pending and that it has taken affirmative steps to improve minority voting opportunities.[18][19]

On September 22, 2010, the first two jurisdictions outside the state of Virginia - Kings Mountain, North Carolina, and Sandy Springs, Georgia - successfully "bailed out" from Section 5 Preclearance requirements.[20]
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

34 dragonath  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 9:56:44pm

re: #21 Charles Johnson

This is awesome. "Boy, it sure is great Florida mismanaged that election-- cause those feds would have insisted on an untainted recount process..."

35 Targetpractice  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 9:57:08pm

re: #31 Gus

Why do conservatives have a tin ear on racism?

Honestly? I think most of those in the party who aren't closet racists themselves are convinced that racism is "dead" or has been rendered impotent enough that we can act as though there's no more work to do.

36 austin_blue  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 9:58:31pm

Night all. Sweet scaly dreams!

37 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 10:01:49pm

re: #21 Charles Johnson

Oh, please. This is what Akin said to Charles Jaco:

YES, he IS talking about repealing the federal Voting Rights Act.

Is Akin aware that in Bush v. Gore the federal Supreme Court overruled the Florida State Supreme Court on a matter of State law? It seems like he got everything backwards.

38 Gus  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 10:02:37pm

re: #35 Targetpractice

Honestly? I think most of those in the party who aren't closet racists themselves are convinced that racism is "dead" or has been rendered impotent enough that we can act as though there's no more work to do.

I was going to add to this. By saying that conservatives have a tin ear on racism I'm not saying "all conservatives are racist." It's just that a vast majority of them have a tin ear on racial issues, a lack of empathy perhaps, or simply having race issues fly right over their heads. The states rights meme being the biggest since it was in fact the main cause of the Civil War. That's when the "states rights" meme began and yes, it was the Democrats of the south who were later known as Dixiecrats that made this rallying call and later went on to either get things right or move on to the Republican Party.

39 JamesWI  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 10:04:15pm

re: #37 goddamnedfrank

Is Akin aware that in Bush v. Gore the federal supreme court overruled the Florida State Supreme Court on a matter of State law? It seems like he got everything backwards.

Republicans not understanding history? Get out of here!

40 Gus  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 10:04:57pm

re: #37 goddamnedfrank

Is Akin aware that in Bush v. Gore the federal supreme court overruled the Florida State Supreme Court on a matter of State law? It seems like he got everything backwards.

Ha! Good one. Rimshot.

41 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 10:06:19pm

re: #30 Gus

Reagan's Neshoba County Fair "states' rights" speech

Actually it was Richard Nixon who had first wooed Southerners in 1968 and 1972. In the latter election he was helped less by racism and more by the left-wing social views of Sen. McGovern, which annoyed social conservatives in the South.

But the "Southern Strategy" had not worked at all in 1976, due in large part to the fact that in the year the Democratic candidate was Jimmy Carter of Georgia. States like South Carolina which had gone massively for Nixon just four years before sided with Carter in 1976, and the viability of the GOP's efforts in the South were in doubt.

Ronald Reagan dispelled those doubts, winning over Southern voters with a combination of social conservatism, public focus on American exceptionalism, a return to openly anti-Communist policies abroad, a major military build-up, and a greater emphasis on federalism. The problem is that southern states used "States Rights" to extremely bad ends for a long time before Reagan arrived on the scene and sometimes still do so.

42 freetoken  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 10:13:37pm

re: #38 Gus

There are Tin ears... and then there are Tin-alloy ears.


Example: Michelle Malkin goes a whistlin' this week with her article titled Black like us: The race clownery of Obama-Biden, a title which was played up prominently in the usual circles, such as VDARE (who have been pushing Malkin's articles significantly) and under which title it was circulated around the net.

However, a funny thing happened to the story on the way over the National Racists Online - they changed the article title. By reworking a few paragraphs, they republished it as "Brother Biden".

Hmmm... fascinating... do you think perchance that one of the editors over at NRO is still smarting from the whole Derbyshire event?

And, what does it say about Malkin and her fan base, which just happens to overlap with the "base" of the GOP, when NRO has to change a title of one of Malkin's pieces?

Inquiring minds want to know.

43 Kragar  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 10:17:00pm

re: #22 Charles Johnson

"State's rights" is one of the oldest dog whistles in the Republican playbook.

They love States' Rights, then try to push Federal laws to abolish the rights in States that don't go their way.

44 Targetpractice  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 10:18:17pm

re: #43 Kragar

They love States' Rights, then try to push Federal laws to abolish the rights in States that don't go their way.

Repub: "We believe that states have a right to decide what is best for them."

California: "We just legalized gay marriage."

Repub: "See, this is why we need a Constitutional amendment protecting heterosexual marriage!"

45 Gus  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 10:20:12pm

re: #42 freetoken

There are Tin ears... and then there are Tin-alloy ears.

Example: Michelle Malkin goes a whistlin' this week with her article titled Black like us: The race clownery of Obama-Biden, a title which was played up prominently in the usual circles, such as VDARE (who have been pushing Malkin's articles significantly) and under which title it was circulated around the net.

However, a funny thing happened to the story on the way over the National Racists Online - they changed the article title. By reworking a few paragraphs, they republished it as "Brother Biden".

Hmmm... fascinating... do you think perchance that one of the editors over at NRO is still smarting from the whole Derbyshire event?

And, what does it say about Malkin and her fan base, which just happens to overlap with the "base" of the GOP, when NRO has to change a title of one of Malkin's pieces?

Inquiring minds want to know.

OMG. Serisously? Vdare writer. Of course. It's so sad. Michelle was actually a bright young woman at one point. Another one that went bonkers after 9/11. She might have PTSD. I think a lot of Americans have 9/11-PTSD. She probably could be cured.

46 freetoken  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 10:20:22pm

And speaking of Derbyshire, his latest article published at the usual sites starts out as such:

John Derbyshire Considers His Future As A Zek In Cultural Marxist America

Here on the Dissident Right, we try our best to keep our peckers up. If we were to believe that all is lost, that the game is up, that the National Question has been dispositively answered by the massed forces of Neoconnery and Cultural Marxism, there would be no point our continuing to write and speak in opposition.

[...]

Ah yes, that Cultural Marxism, which just happens to be practiced by everybody who are not racist troglodytes.

47 Gus  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 10:20:36pm

re: #41 Dark_Falcon

Actually it was Richard Nixon who had first wooed Southerners in 1968 and 1972. In the latter election he was helped less by racism and more by the left-wing social views of Sen. McGovern, which annoyed social conservatives in the South.

But the "Southern Strategy" had not worked at all in 1976, due in large part to the fact that in the year the Democratic candidate was Jimmy Carter of Georgia. States like South Carolina which had gone massively for Nixon just four years before sided with Carter in 1976, and the viability of the GOP's efforts in the South were in doubt.

Ronald Reagan dispelled those doubts, winning over Southern voters with a combination of social conservatism, public focus on American exceptionalism, a return to openly anti-Communist policies abroad, a major military build-up, and a greater emphasis on federalism. The problem is that southern states used "States Rights" to extremely bad ends for a long time before Reagan arrived on the scene and sometimes still do so.

Fair enough.

48 Gus  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 10:20:56pm

Not as in grading!

49 freetoken  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 10:22:16pm

re: #45 Gus

She probably could be cured.

In her case it's probably a mixture of addiction to adoration (provides self worth) and hyper religiosity (which generally clouds the mind.)

Cures in these cases are not easy.

50 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 10:22:59pm

re: #46 freetoken

And speaking of Derbyshire, his latest article published at the usual sites starts out as such:

Ah yes, that Cultural Marxism, which just happens to be practiced by everybody who are not racist troglodytes.

I wonder what he thinks the 'National Question' is? "Who is John Gault?", perhaps?

51 Mich-again  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 10:23:27pm

I wonder if Akin wants to repeal the 13th amendement as well.

52 dragonath  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 10:23:56pm

The roots go back much further than that, I think, all the way back to the isolationists hooking up with the social conservatives in the 30s.

South Carolina flipped out after Truman desegregated the military. The southern counties in the state voted Republican or States' Rights in every election afterwards except '76.

53 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 10:24:38pm

re: #49 freetoken

In her case it's probably a mixture of addiction to adoration (provides self worth) and hyper religiosity (which generally clouds the mind.)

Cures in these cases are not easy.

Michelle Malkin is not hyper-religious. You may be thinking of Michelle Bachmann, who is in fact hyper-religious.

54 freetoken  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 10:26:15pm

re: #50 Dark_Falcon

I wonder what he thinks the 'National Question' is?

It's VDARE-speak, which, according their site, the National Question means specifically this:

"whether a particular people can find political expression in a state"

In other words, if you are a white person you ought to be able to have a white-person nation.

55 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 10:26:29pm

re: #50 Dark_Falcon

I wonder what he thinks the 'National Question' is? "Who is John Gault?", perhaps?

Derbyshire thinks the National Question is "Why doesn't everyone realize how very brilliant I am?"

56 freetoken  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 10:26:35pm

re: #53 Dark_Falcon

Michelle Malkin is not hyper-religious. You may be thinking of Michelle Bachmann, who is in fact hyper-religious.

No, I mean Michelle Malkin.

57 Gus  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 10:27:28pm

re: #53 Dark_Falcon

Michelle Malkin is not hyper-religious. You may be thinking of Michelle Bachmann, who is in fact hyper-religious.

Oh but she's in like Flint with the religious right. Need I Google?

58 freetoken  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 10:27:39pm

Or, to phrase it in terms of the topic of this thread, one can't have a white-person nation if brown people have the right to vote.

59 Gus  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 10:28:03pm

Hot Air and her other little empires were bought up by Salem Communications. Salem Communications? I mean come on now.

60 Kragar  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 10:28:26pm

Over the last week, my 9 year old has become fascinated with the Normandy Invasion.

61 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 10:29:04pm

re: #57 Gus

Oh but she's in like Flint with the religious right. Need I Google?

That's because she'll support any damn thing that goes with the self-pity of the further right these days. I've never gotten the impression she's personally all that pious, at least not in a public sort of a way.

62 Gus  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 10:29:56pm

I think it's Focus on the Family. Not sure. But she also has dibs on their studios there.

63 Gus  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 10:30:41pm

People find their niche.

64 Mich-again  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 10:31:24pm

Religious people have a fear in God.
Hyper-religious people think they need to protect God.

65 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 10:31:40pm

re: #54 freetoken

It's VDARE-speak, which, according their site, the National Question means specifically this:

In other words, if you are a white person you ought to be able to have a white-person nation.

Well yes, a person can find political expression in America, provided that they can convince a sufficient majority of Americans to agree with them. Sometimes this is also possible on a smaller scale within a state or municipality. The pension and benefits referendum held recently in San Diego are examples of such expression.

One cannot, however, legitimately write other law-abiding Americans out of the political picture in order to find one's "expression", for they have their own rights to pursue their own goals as well.

66 Gus  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 10:33:18pm

Welp. Read a lot of news today. Guess who wins the most biggest dick of the world today?

Ahmadinejad

67 Targetpractice  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 10:33:25pm

re: #60 Kragar

Over the last week, my 9 year old has become fascinated with the Normandy Invasion.

What brought that on?

68 Gus  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 10:34:14pm

Although. I forgot about Russia. Hmmm. Dinnerjacket or Putin. Friends in fact.

69 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 10:35:36pm

re: #60 Kragar

Over the last week, my 9 year old has become fascinated with the Normandy Invasion.

Take him or her to your local game store. Even if (s)he's not ready for Flames of War, many such places have Osprey books that deal with the campaign in Normandy or stand-alone games that will allow your child to dip his or her toes into the world of historical wargaming. And above all be proud, oh 40K fan: For your child is proving to be a gamer like you! [smiles]

70 Mich-again  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 10:37:25pm

Michelle Malkin is in the entertainment industry, not journalism. She doesn't sell ideas, she sells ads.

Her sponsors are essentially buying political ads, but they get to deduct it as a business expense. This is why her and other like her (eg Hannity) are not interested in facts or rational analysis, they are running political ads posing as news.

71 Gus  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 10:38:20pm

Just had a crazy idea. SPLC and FRC should meet.

Crazy idea?

[Bronx cheer.]

72 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 10:38:24pm

Charles, Firefox is going over to the front page of LGF at random intervals, and at times the 'quote' button does not work until I reload. Nothing serious, but I thought it wise to inform you.

73 Gus  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 10:41:29pm

re: #72 Dark_Falcon

Charles, Firefox is going over to the front page of LGF at random intervals, and at times the 'quote' button does not work until I reload. Nothing serious, but I thought it wise to inform you.

Yep. When I check dingage on a comment. Boom. Front page. Been happening for over a week I think.

74 Gus  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 10:42:30pm

Copy.

75 Gus  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 10:43:06pm

Can I get a reading on your CO2 levels?

76 freetoken  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 10:43:58pm

In tonight's news:

Racism alleged in northwest killings

A young couple accused of killing four people in a multistate crime spree last fall have been indicted on federal racketeering charges alleging the rampage was part of a campaign to "purify" and "preserve" the white race, the U.S. Attorney for Oregon, said Friday.

Muslim's grave vandalized a 6th time

Hassan Mustafa Hassan Abdallah is one of hundreds of Muslims buried alongside people of other faiths in Evergreen Cemetery.

But the Jordanian diplomat's grave is the only one that has been repeatedly targeted by vandals, and neither police nor his family knows why.

Abdallah's grave was vandalized for the sixth time in the last 17 months last week, even though he died more than a decade ago, Evergreen Park police said.

Cemetery employees called police Thursday after they found anti-Muslim words and gang symbols scrawled on a headstone, a bench and a concrete slab at his grave, police Lt. Pete Donovan said. Anti-gay slogans were also visible on the grave Friday morning as a worker tried to remove the graffiti.

[...]

77 Gus  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 10:46:45pm

Now I've done it.

78 Targetpractice  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 10:48:40pm

re: #75 Gus

Can I get a reading on your CO2 levels?

Okay, that's it, no more Apollo 13 for you.

//

79 Amory Blaine  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 10:49:40pm

Bahh. Who needs Habeas Corpus? Maybe a second look as well?

80 Gus  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 10:49:40pm

re: #78 Targetpractice

Okay, that's it, no more Apollo 13 for you.

//

Homoerotic test pilot lust.

81 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 10:49:54pm

re: #76 freetoken

And for slightly less heinous levels of filth we have these two females rotters from Texas with a pink license plate but seemingly nothing in their hearts. After terrorizing a mother of 4 and deliberately running over a off-duty cop's foot, one would hope their next job in life is making license plates.

82 Targetpractice  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 10:50:49pm

re: #80 Gus

Homoerotic test pilot lust.

As opposed to standard homoerotic pilot lust, for which you watch Top Gun.

83 Gus  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 10:51:25pm

re: #82 Targetpractice

As opposed to standard homoerotic pilot lust, for which you watch Top Gun.

I watch it for the volley ball.

84 Mich-again  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 10:54:49pm

Coming to a hospital in a Red State near you.. Pregnant teen dies after abortion ban delays her chemo treatment for leukemia

Doctors were hesitant to give her chemotherapy because such treatment could terminate the pregnancy -- a violation of the Dominican Constitution, which bans abortion. Some 20 days after she was admitted to the hospital, she finally started receiving treatment.
She died Friday, a hospital official said.

85 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 10:55:44pm

re: #76 freetoken

And to merge the topics of firearms and people who can be seriously annoying we have this little gem. Guns are not fashion accessories, though Kim Kardashian is here seen posing with one. The real FAIL is that the article calls the gun in question a "rifle" when it is clearly a shotgun.

86 dragonath  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 10:57:54pm

Ooh, Check out these lurid election results from Mississippi! Or: the South before the Civil Rights Act.

1948: Thurman 87.17, Truman 10.09, Dewey 2.62

Less than 3 percent for Dewey! Now that's just plain messed up.

1960: Unpledged 38.99, Kennedy, 36.34, Nixon 24.67
1964: Goldwater 87.14, Johnson 12.86
1968: Wallace 63.46, Humphrey 23.02, Nixon 13.52
1972: Nixon 78.20, McGovern 19.63

The Southern Strategy and all that...

87 Kragar  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 11:00:10pm

re: #67 Targetpractice

What brought that on?

We've been working on modeling projects, so started watching a bunch of WWII movies and she really likes them.

88 freetoken  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 11:00:34pm

Ok, history lesson for tonight:

Here is an NBC radio news program from 1965 (March 30th I believe):

MP3 Audio

Pick it up around 1:43 in (unless you want to here the part about the North Vietnamese communists that starts the broadcast.)

What do you hear?

89 Targetpractice  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 11:01:15pm

re: #84 Mich-again

Coming to a hospital in a Red State near you.. Pregnant teen dies after abortion ban delays her chemo treatment for leukemia

So, instead of terminating the pregnancy but saving the woman so that she might have children some time later, she and her baby are now dead.

I'm sure this is the point where some self-righteous prick declares that it's "God's will" and that it better they both die than "sin" be committed. And the part where I roll my eyes and wonder what sort of God would approve of this.

90 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 11:01:26pm

Out of energy, heading to bed.

91 Gus  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 11:03:17pm

See. The reason corporations support the religious right is because they oppose gay marriage. This keeps them from having to add gay couples into their benefits package. Thus saving them on the bottom line.

Profits through bigotry.

Romney/Ryan 2012

"I'm Mitt Romney, and I approve this message."

"Wait a minute. Maybe I should have put that differently..."

92 Targetpractice  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 11:03:38pm

re: #87 Kragar

We've been working on modeling projects, so started watching a bunch of WWII movies and she really likes them.

9 years old and likes war movies. Keep an eye out, next it's gonna be first-person shooters.

93 Gus  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 11:04:33pm

Mitt Romney is Max Headroom.

94 Kragar  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 11:04:45pm

re: #92 Targetpractice

9 years old and likes war movies. Keep an eye out, next it's gonna be first-person shooters.

She plays TF2.

95 Targetpractice  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 11:06:17pm

re: #94 Kragar

She plays TF2.

Congrats, you've raised a gamer.

96 freetoken  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 11:07:56pm

Extra credit homework for tonight:

Here is a longer retrospective on 1965, from a year end news radio broadcast from that year:

MP3 Audio
97 Kragar  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 11:08:30pm

We're watching the Longest Day right now.

98 Gus  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 11:09:15pm

re: #97 Kragar

We're watching the Longest Day right now.

John Wayne's best role.

99 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 11:12:44pm

The nasty legacy of the Southern Strategy in action here. Sigh.

100 Gus  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 11:13:53pm

Drive That Fast

Youtube Video
101 Kragar  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 11:34:16pm

Well, she's asleep, but she want to learn more about the French Resistance now.

102 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 11:36:43pm

Logical consequences:

The 16-year-old's plight attracted worldwide attention after she had to wait for chemotherapy because of an abortion ban in the Dominican Republic.

Doctors were hesitant to give her chemotherapy because such treatment could terminate the pregnancy -- a violation of the Dominican Constitution, which bans abortion. Some 20 days after she was admitted to the hospital, she finally started receiving treatment.

She died Friday, a hospital official said.

...

According to Article 37 of the Dominican Constitution, "the right to life is inviolable from the moment of conception and until death." Dominican courts have interpreted this as a strict mandate against abortion.

103 Gus  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 11:42:32pm

Typhoid fever.

104 freetoken  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 11:42:37pm

re: #102 goddamnedfrank

Constitution of 2010

Centre-right President Leonel Fernández ordered for a new constitution to be drafted so it could be established in mid 2009. The constitution has faced notable criticism, both abroad and at home, with opponents referring to it as an "injustice" and as "step backwards" for ensuring of human rights in the country, especially towards minorities. A complete ban on all forms of same-sex unions[5] and abortion (Article 30) have been drafted for inclusion into the new constitution, and have been heavily lobbied for by the Roman Catholic Church[6] and Evangelical Christians.[7] Should the constitution pass, it would become the sixth jurisdiction in the world with a complete, no exceptions ban on abortion (after Chile, Malta, El Salvador, Nicaragua, and Vatican City) and the first country in the world to constitutionally ban all forms of recognition for same-sex couples. The anti-abortion amendment was easily approved by a vote of 128 to 34.[8] The constitution has also been criticized for "oppressing the rights of Haitian immigrants."[9][unreliable source?] The National Assembly reportedly largely approved the new constitution on September 17,[10][11][12] though unspecified delays have postponed its final ratification until sometime next week.[13]. Finally the new constitution was Proclaimed on 26 January 2010 to coincide with the born day of one of Republic Founding Father Juan Pablo Duarte.

105 Gus  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 11:47:01pm

Image: article-2190100-1497F3BC000005DC-788_634x476.jpg

Murdered: Sheriff's Deputy Jeremy Triche, 28, pictured with his two-year-old son was shot dead on Thursday

106 Kragar  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 11:55:08pm

re: #105 Gus

Image: article-2190100-1497F3BC000005DC-788_634x476.jpg

Whenever some asshole says they're going to fight the government, they really mean they're going to kill a man just like that.

107 McSpiff  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 11:56:20pm

Evening all, doing some work in a night maintenance window. How's everyone else's night?

108 Kronocide  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 11:58:25pm

Glenn Beck was in rare form today.

The press even makes us into conspiracy freaks for bringing is up. We bring up the left is the one that always has caused 90% of the shootings and the political statement, kind of bombings, et cetera, et cetera, the terror throughout American history it’s generally from either crazy people or the left and how do we get this message out?

Yes, he really did say that.

109 Gus  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 11:59:51pm

re: #106 Kragar

Whenever some asshole says they're going to fight the government, they really mean they're going to kill a man just like that.

They went from 8... 10 years to getting fried. Fuck 'em. I'd hang them in the morning.

110 McSpiff  Fri, Aug 17, 2012 11:59:54pm

re: #108 Kronocide

Glenn Beck was in rare form today.

The press even makes us into conspiracy freaks for bringing is up. We bring up the left is the one that always has caused 90% of the shootings and the political statement, kind of bombings, et cetera, et cetera, the terror throughout American history it’s generally from either crazy people or the left and how do we get this message out?

Yes, he really did say that.

Why I've never even seen a Scotsmen!

111 Kragar  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 12:04:13am

re: #108 Kronocide

Glenn Beck was in rare form today.

The press even makes us into conspiracy freaks for bringing is up. We bring up the left is the one that always has caused 90% of the shootings and the political statement, kind of bombings, et cetera, et cetera, the terror throughout American history it’s generally from either crazy people or the left and how do we get this message out?

Yes, he really did say that.

Lynchings and Jim Crow laws were well known liberal phenomenon.
/

112 Gus  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 12:05:05am

Fucking aye.

George Harrison. My Sweet Lord.

Youtube Video
113 McSpiff  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 12:09:18am

re: #111 Kragar

Lynchings and Jim Crow laws were well known liberal phenomenon.
/

Hey, it was the democrats remember!

Blah

114 Kronocide  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 12:15:23am

re: #113 McSpiff

Hey, it was the democrats remember!

Blah

Hey, General Boykin reminds us: Hitler was a liberal!

And, remember, they also called Hitler right wing, as well. I don’t mean SPLC but, you know, people today on the left refer to Hitler as right wing and compare conservatives to Hitler. Well, Hitler was anything but right wing. Remember, he was the nationalist socialist party.

Also, the SPLC is a hate group. No shit.

115 HappyWarrior  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 12:18:06am

re: #114 Kronocide

Hey, General Boykin reminds us: Hitler was a liberal!

And, remember, they also called Hitler right wing, as well. I don’t mean SPLC but, you know, people today on the left refer to Hitler as right wing and compare conservatives to Hitler. Well, Hitler was anything but right wing. Remember, he was the nationalist socialist party.

Also, the SPLC is a hate group. No shit.

That's seriously his argument? Gosh if you actually took every party at its word then pretty much no Communist party would be dictatorial and authoritarian. Boykin wants his listeners to ignore the fact that the German left were among the strongest opponents of Hitler and the Nazis. Sorry Boykin, you can't accuse of being multiculturalist PC freaks while at the same time saying we're akin to a white nationalist party. You fail. If you ask me the whole right wing attempt to claim the Nazis as members of the left is guilt over the 1920's/30's right wing's naivete about Fascism and Nazism. It's also a desire to paint every evil ever done as being left wing.

116 HappyWarrior  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 12:20:27am

re: #113 McSpiff

Hey, it was the democrats remember!

Blah

You know what's sad is people actually use that argument. Never mind the fact that the Democratic Party evolved to become stronger on Civil Rights. Really conservatives these days engage in a lot of No True Scotsman or in this case it would be No True Conservative these days. You can't claim the Democrats today are the heirs of Jim Crow while your own party has been running away from the Party of Lincoln label for years and embracing Neo-Confederate idiots.

117 Gus  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 12:26:11am

This is great.

Person to Person with Marlon Brando (1955)

Youtube Video

Miasma.

118 Kragar  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 12:30:24am

re: #117 Gus

This is great.

Person to Person with Marlon Brando (1955)

[Embedded content]

Miasma.

The stories about Brando onset for Apocalypse Now are a thing of legend.

119 Gus  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 12:41:27am
Youtube Video
120 boredtechindenver  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 12:47:52am

Away from politics, this story may be one of the more important item you will read.

121 Kragar  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 12:55:24am

re: #120 boredtechindenver

Away from politics, this story may be one of the more important item you will read.

The sad thing is much of the safety equipment created over the years has made the impact damage much more severe.

122 freetoken  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 12:59:38am

re: #120 boredtechindenver

Away from politics, this story may be one of the more important item you will read.

Brain damage from sports impact is something which seems to be discussed in an almost politic way. By that I mean there are groups of opinions that are loosely formed but are congealing below the surface. I think a lot of lip service is given to the idea, by those who make money off the entire enterprise of sports, to impress those who express concern, in the same sort of way that say oil companies do when they express concern about climate change.

123 freetoken  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 1:03:46am

Did anyone catch the first episode of the NBC show Stars Earn Stripes?

Reinforcing my urban elite credentials here, the show strikes me as nothing other than military porn.

And, with Wes Clark as the host, and one of the contestants being Todd Palin... c'mon, the show is nothing other than Americana fantasy on overdose.

124 Kragar  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 1:08:14am

re: #123 freetoken

Did anyone catch the first episode of the NBC show Stars Earn Stripes?

Reinforcing my urban elite credentials here, the show strikes me as nothing other than military porn.

And, with Wes Clark as the host, and one of the contestants being Todd Palin... c'mon, the show is nothing other than Americana fantasy on overdose.

A military themed obstacle course show, woopedy-doo!
/

125 freetoken  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 1:10:16am

re: #124 Kragar

A military themed obstacle course show, woopedy-doo!
/

With GUNS! Lots and lots of guns going bang bang bang. Really big GUNS!

I'm sure those guys would love to use their guns on contestant Eve Torres.

126 Kragar  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 1:12:31am

re: #125 freetoken

With GUNS! Lots and lots of guns going bang bang bang. Really big GUNS!

I'm sure those guys would love to use their guns on contestant Eve Torres.

In honor of Wesley Clark, the majority of targets hit should have no score because they were fakes.

127 Kragar  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 1:25:15am

The 6 Craziest Disguises Ever Used in the History of War

During the 1999 Kosovo War, NATO sent hundreds of planes to bomb Serb troops in Kosovo every day for 78 days straight. NATO commanders claimed that this rain of destruction destroyed 120 tanks, 220 armored personnel carriers and 450 artillery pieces and killed 5,000 Serb soldiers.

So imagine their surprise when after the war was over the Serb army that rolled out of Kosovo looked pretty much the same as the one that had rolled in. It turned out NATO had barely touched it. So ... what exactly had they been bombing that whole time? A bunch of laughably bad fakes.

The Serbs knew that their air force was complete crap and incapable of defending the country. So, knowing that the NATO bombers would have free rein, they built fake tanks, fake artillery, fake anti-aircraft guns -- basically an entire fake army for the bombers to destroy. And then they put it places where it was sure to be spotted. Real stuff was hidden deep in the woods or inside buildings. And they really didn't try very hard -- here is an "artillery gun" made from a pipe and plastic sheeting which looks more like laundry. What was more important was that they had heaters inside them so they would show up on IR sensors as vehicles with their engines running.

128 sagehen  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 1:29:23am

re: #41 Dark_Falcon

But the "Southern Strategy" had not worked at all in 1976, due in large part to the fact that in the year the Democratic candidate was Jimmy Carter of Georgia in that year the Republican nominee was a guy who'd been appointed by a crook who had to resign, and he'd then pardoned the crook. Also, the Republican nominee said something really stupid about Poland at the debate. States like South Carolina which had gone massively for Nixon just four years before sided with Carter in 1976, and the viability of the GOP's efforts in the South were in doubt.

FTFY

129 Kragar  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 1:32:59am

Russians used similar tactics to the Serbs in the weeks before the battle of Kursk. Russian women would spend nights using logs and paint to set up fake artillery batteries and other sites so the Luftwaffe would waste time bombing those sites while the more important sites closer to Kursk could be further improved.

130 freetoken  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 2:31:21am

Some Ligeti piano:

MP3 Audio
131 freetoken  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 2:32:05am

It's only a little bit out there, but definitely engages the mind more than the emotions.

132 Kragar  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 2:54:28am

Hook-legged spider found in Oregon cave

A group of cave explorers and scientists have made a rare discovery: an entirely new taxonomic family of spider in the caves of southern Oregon.

Only two other spider families (the taxonomic group above both genus and species) have been found since 1990, and this is the first newly discovered, native one uncovered in North America since 1890, said California Academy of Sciences researcher Charles Griswold, lead author of the study that described the species.

So far, the family consists only of the one species described, which the researchers named Trogloraptor marchingtoni. The species is named after Neil Marchington, a member of the Western Cave Conservancy, who first discovered the spider. The genus name, Trogloraptor, means "cave robber."

It's an apt name for a spider with unique hooks, or claws, on its legs, which the researchers believe are used to snatch flying insects, like midges, out of the air. With its legs outstretched, the spider measures up to 3 inches (8 centimeters) long.

"They're biggish," Griswold said. "But when you're in a cave and it's dark and there's only the beam of your head lamp, they look much bigger. It's quite astonishing to see them hanging from a few threads." [Gallery: Spooky Spiders]

133 Kragar  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 3:11:29am

Picked up a razor saw on a whim last weekend. Its become one of those tools I don't know how I did without for so long.

134 freetoken  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 3:16:54am
MP3 Audio
135 Obdicut  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 3:40:19am

re: #133 Kragar

I got a safety razor. Same principle, different deal. Fun to shave with.

136 William of Orange  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 3:43:05am

Your daily moment of WOW!!!

None of these pictures are photographs!!

137 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 4:09:43am

From now on, whenever you encounter the word "dance", mentally replace it with "prance." That brings you such lovely ideas as "break prancing", "country line prancing", "So You Think You Can Prance", "Prancing With the Stars", "Dirty Prancing", etc.

138 AK-47%  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 4:20:12am

re: #60 Kragar

Over the last week, my 9 year old has become fascinated with the Normandy Invasion.

My son is six and big into playing with my marines and Japanese. But he always lets the Japanese win...I am worried.

139 freetoken  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 4:25:33am

re: #137 What Would Spalding Gray Do?

Hmm...

Prances with Wolves
My Mother is a Belly Prancer
Confessions of a Lab Prancer
Prance Fever
Prance! Prance! Prance!

Yeah, I guess it works.

140 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 4:27:21am

re: #139 freetoken

Prance Prance Revolution
Flashprancer
Private Prancer
Prancing in the Street
May I Have This Prance?

141 freetoken  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 5:36:53am
MP3 Audio
142 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 5:41:21am

re: #8 jaunte

What the hell do they mean "get another look."

Orwell invented the word "Newspeak" to explain the deadly idiocies of the Communist Party in Spain. Even he would be astonished at the lines the Republicans are being allowed to use daily.

143 aagcobb  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 5:42:54am

re: #22 Charles Johnson

"State's rights" is one of the oldest dog whistles in the Republican playbook.

In fact, its so old that it was in the segregationist Southern Democrats playbook before they all became Republicans.

144 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:11:24am

re: #129 Kragar

Russians used similar tactics to the Serbs in the weeks before the battle of Kursk. Russian women would spend nights using logs and paint to set up fake artillery batteries and other sites so the Luftwaffe would waste time bombing those sites while the more important sites closer to Kursk could be further improved.

The Russians tried many tactics to neutralize what turned out to be the Luftwaffe's last big action on the Eastern Front. Their Maskirovka (deception) tactics proved effective, but the centerpiece of their efforts to deny the German offensive air support was a major attack on German controlled airfields the day Operation Citadel was to begin. This attack failed; The Germans had brought forward new radar systems that the USSR had not know about due the tight secrecy surrounding their deployment. Those radars picked up the incoming Soviet strike packages in time for the Luftwaffe's ME-109 and 110's and FW-190s to scramble into the air and devastate the attackers before they could deliver their bombs. This proven one of the few cases in WWII where the bombers by and large did not get through.

145 darthstar  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:27:18am

Mornin' everyone...

146 abolitionist  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:28:16am

re: #138 Expand Your Ground

My son is six and big into playing with my marines and Japanese. But he always lets the Japanese win...I am worried.

Ask him about his girlfriend.

147 darthstar  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:29:07am

heh...on Ryan bringing his mom to Florida to run interference for him.

148 allegro  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:36:28am

Saturday morning funnies:

Donald Trump: Women 'Don't Get What is Going On' with Obama

Donald Trump said women may like President Barack Obama because they "don't know him" and "don't get what's going on."

“Maybe [women] don’t know him,” Trump said during a phone interview on Wednesday's "On The Record" with Greta van Susteren. “Maybe they don’t get what is going on. And I still think that this is not going to be a popularity contest, it's going to be a contest based on jobs."

Trump criticized Obama as "somebody that will say some very nasty things" and said the president and Vice President Joe Biden are running "a very vicious campaign against Mitt Romney and the Republicans."

“[Obama] is a person that is not the nice person that some people think," Trump said. "And his popularity rating -- while high -- I think if people knew the facts, the rating would actually be extremely low."

Now, I'll just get my apron on and get back to the kitchen like a good little girl.

149 darthstar  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:37:27am
150 allegro  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:38:30am

I've come to the realization that when Repubs spend all this energy talking about "jobs" when they're campaigning, the only jobs they're talking about are their own. Suddenly it all makes sense.

151 sagehen  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:47:28am

song of mitt's self:

Youtube Video
152 AK-47%  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:56:41am

re: #151 sagehen

song of mitt's self:

[Embedded content]

Regret that I have only one upding to give.

Hey, if they can take obama out of context, let them take Mitt any old which way...

153 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:57:16am

re: #147 darthstar

re: #149 darthstar

I'm sure those two will be similarly amused when Obama shows up with Michelle and the children to his events !!!

154 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:57:52am

re: #153 sattv4u2

re: #149 darthstar

I'm sure those two will be similarly amused when Obama shows up with Michelle and the children to his events !!!

"But Satt,,, thats not the same at all!!!"

155 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:58:01am

re: #153 sattv4u2

re: #149 darthstar

I'm sure those two will be similarly amused when Obama shows up with Michelle and the children to his events !!!

Heh.

BBL

156 Obdicut  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:58:14am

re: #154 sattv4u2

Aw.

157 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:58:31am

[Link: 4.bp.blogspot.com...]

158 Obdicut  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:59:45am

re: #157 sattv4u2

Obviously, the people making fun of this just hate motherhood and apple pie.

159 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:59:46am

re: #156 Obdicut

AwL.

Image: awl.jpg

160 kmg  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:59:48am

How crazy the Republicans have gotten?

Why don't you write something on the crazy that is Al Quds Day taking place in cities across America and the world today.

How come you aren't into that kind of crazy anymore?

161 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:00:11am

re: #158 Obdicut

Obviously, the people making fun of this just hate motherhood and apple pie.

No

Just one political side of it

162 Kronocide  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:01:47am

re: #154 sattv4u2

"But Satt,,, thats not the same at all!!!"

No shit sherlock.

163 abolitionist  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:02:19am

re: #157 sattv4u2

[Link: 4.bp.blogspot.com...]

Aww..

Quote

* Whenever I held my newborn baby in my arms, I used to think that what I said and did to him could have an influence not only on him but on all whom he met, not only for a day or a month or a year, but for all eternity - a very challenging and exciting thought for a mother. - Rose Kennedy

164 Kronocide  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:02:53am

Let's get some Balance up in this beyatch. I'll take two.

165 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:03:46am

re: #164 Kronocide

Let's get some Balance up in this beyatch. I'll take two.

Heaven forbid!!!

166 Obdicut  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:05:41am

re: #160 kmg

How crazy the Republicans have gotten?

Why don't you write something on the crazy that is Al Quds Day taking place in cities across America and the world today.

How come you aren't into that kind of crazy anymore?

The GOP is a clear and present problem in the US right now, with obvious solutions-- push back against their anti-scientific, racist, Gilded Age ideas and restore the US to fiscal and social sanity. Terror from radical Islam is still a danger, but it isn't actually as harmful to the US as our political system becoming broken.

You can usually find updates on things relating to Israel in the featured pages, especially on the days Bob Levin is translating the Agile-bot.

167 Kronocide  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:06:58am

re: #157 sattv4u2

[Link: 4.bp.blogspot.com...]

So Kennedy campaigned with his mom? That's a picture of President Kennedy with mom.

168 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:08:08am

re: #167 Kronocide

So Kennedy campaigned with his mom? That's a picture of President Kennedy with mom.

OH MY GOD!!!!

169 Obdicut  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:09:11am

re: #168 sattv4u2

Your kind of adorable when you're in pants-on-head mode.

170 Kronocide  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:09:20am

re: #168 sattv4u2

OH MY GOD!!!!

You betcha.

171 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:09:35am

re: #167 Kronocide

So Kennedy campaigned with his mom? That's a picture of President Kennedy with mom.

[Link: www.jfklibrary.org...]


caption
Mrs. Rose Fitzgerald Kennedy, the candidate's mother,

172 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:10:11am

re: #169 Obdicut

Your kind of adorable when you're in pants-on-head mode.

{yawn}

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

173 Jadewater  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:11:42am

re: #129 Kragar

Russians used similar tactics to the Serbs in the weeks before the battle of Kursk. Russian women would spend nights using logs and paint to set up fake artillery batteries and other sites so the Luftwaffe would waste time bombing those sites while the more important sites closer to Kursk could be further improved.

I'm going to Serbia!!!

174 Obdicut  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:12:01am

re: #160 kmg

You inspired me to check out the featured pages, and I found one I missed.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

“A genocidal massacre is taking place in Myanmar these days, in the heart of Asia,” wrote columnist Hussein Shabakshi in yesterday’s edition of the pan-Arab newspaper Asharq Al Awsat.

World powers were quick to embrace Myanmar as soon as the reclusive, resource-rich country announced structural reforms earlier this year. Now, however, it appears that those world powers are too slow and too shy in condemning the Myanmar government for conducting unlawful killings of dozens of Muslims since June, he said.

According to conflicting reports, the death toll is anywhere between 80 and 200.

Formerly known as Burma, Myanmar had been a prosperous and stable country after its independence from Britain in 1948 until it was taken over by an iron-fisted junta in 1962.

The persecution of the Muslim minority in the country, poorly covered by the media as it is, has a history. For instance, about 25,000 Muslims were killed by extremist Buddhists in 1962. In 2009, about 1,500 members of the country’s Muslim minority were displaced and fled to Thailand.

Unfortunately, even the reaction of the Burmese rights activist-turned politician, Aung San Suu, was lukewarm, the columnist said. The words she used were “more like sign language” and fell way short of “unequivocal condemnation” of her country’s government.

I totally hadn't heard about that. Hopefully we can put some economic and trade pressure on Myanmar to stop the ethnic killings.

175 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:12:05am

But SATT,, thats when he was running for Congress

Not the same at all!!

176 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:13:41am

re: #171 sattv4u2

[Link: www.jfklibrary.org...]

caption
Mrs. Rose Fitzgerald Kennedy, the candidate's mother,

OMG!!

He had to bring his SISTERS with him too!!
Someone,, please , STOP THE MADNESS!!!!

177 Kronocide  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:13:46am

re: #171 sattv4u2

[Link: www.jfklibrary.org...]

caption
Mrs. Rose Fitzgerald Kennedy, the candidate's mother,

Ha ha, you post a pic that doesn't fit/make your point, get called on it, find one that does, then imply somebody else has pants on their head.

Only in your world is that a WIN!

178 bratwurst  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:14:54am

Saw Fox News trying to compare Ryan to Reagan this week...now we are comparing him to JFK?!?!

179 Obdicut  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:15:54am

re: #175 sattv4u2

Rose Kennedy was politically powerful in her own right, being part of the already-formed Kennedy dynasty. She was also very influential among Catholics in New England.

If Ryan's mom turns out to be useful for his campaign, then people making fun of this will seem silly. If she's just being hauled out in some cornpone attempt at plucking heartstrings, it's going to be Ryan who seems silly.

These days, I would do my level best to keep family members out of any political campaign, since the media is so scandal-hungry and will turn their lives upside down.

180 Kronocide  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:16:33am

re: #171 sattv4u2

[Link: www.jfklibrary.org...]

caption
Mrs. Rose Fitzgerald Kennedy, the candidate's mother,

KFC 1171P not dated, 1952. A Kennedy "Tea" in Worcester, Massachusetts, during the 1952 Kennedy campaign for United States Senate. Mrs. Rose Fitzgerald Kennedy, the candidate's mother, speaks, while John F. Kennedy (seated far left) and Kennedy's sisters Eunice (seated second from left) and Patricia (seated far right) listen. Photograph by Carroll Bisson Photographs, Worcester, Massachusetts, in the Kennedy Family Photograph Collection, John F. Kennedy Presidential Library and Museum, Boston.

It's the freaking Kennedys dude. Half their family ran were in politics.

Ryan's family is not.

If you don't like Ryan being toyed with for it, find a better example for your Balance cookie.

181 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:16:34am

re: #177 Kronocide

Ha ha, you post a pic that doesn't fit/make your point, get called on it, find one that does, then imply somebody else has pants on their head.

Only in your world is that a WIN!

(hangs head in shame)

How silly of me to stray from the BORG!

As you implied, we can't go having any of that silly "BALANCE up in this beyatch!!"

182 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:19:09am

re: #180 Kronocide

If you don't like Ryan being toyed with for it,

I don't like anyones family "being toyed with"

As stated, I'm sure the Tweeters that darth linked too will be similarly amused when Obamas daughters are on stage during an event

183 Kronocide  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:19:23am

And now a Victimhood Beignet.
Get your Narrative Food Groups in order.

184 Kronocide  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:21:08am
Rose Kennedy speaks at a Tea, 1952

Oh shit...

185 Obdicut  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:21:53am

re: #184 Kronocide

Oh shit...

The fucking Kennedys started the Tea Parties!

How deep does this rabbit hole go?

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186 abolitionist  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:22:26am

re: #184 Kronocide

Oh shit...

Not to worry.. wrong party.

187 AK-47%  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:23:17am

re: #160 kmg

How crazy the Republicans have gotten?

Why don't you write something on the crazy that is Al Quds Day taking place in cities across America and the world today.

How come you aren't into that kind of crazy anymore?

If the GOP has put the destruction of Israel on its party platform, we would have great cause to worry.

As it is, they want the Temple to be restored, but not out of love of israel, but so that it may issue in the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.

And that is fucking scary. Iran just wants to destroy Israel, these guys want to help precipitate Armageddon.

188 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:23:35am

mow the lawn, or walk the dogs
mow the lawn, or walk the dogs
mow the lawn, or walk the dogs

HEY ,,, tie the dogs leashes to the lawn mower !!

WINNING!!!

189 Achilles Tang  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:31:03am

re: #187 Expand Your Ground

As it is, they want the Temple to be restored, but not out of love of israel, but so that it may issue in the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.

I've never understood the difference between this view and the coming of the Mahdi. These guys should really get together.

190 AK-47%  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:36:29am

re: #188 sattv4u2

mow the lawn, or walk the dogs
mow the lawn, or walk the dogs
mow the lawn, or walk the dogs

HEY ,,, tie the dogs leashes to the lawn mower !!

WINNING!!!

trade dogs in for sheep

191 darthstar  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:37:25am

Back from running the dogs...oh, satt...I see what you did there. Very good. Of course, Paul Ryan only brought his mother to show the old people in Florida that he did not, in fact, keep his personal old person locked in a cellar.

192 AK-47%  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:37:35am

re: #189 Achilles Tang

I've never understood the difference between this view and the coming of the Mahdi. These guys should really get together.

Buncha crazy old dudes who get of on vision of fire, brimstone and rivers of blood, I guess.

193 AK-47%  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:38:25am

re: #191 darthstar

Back from running the dogs...oh, satt...I see what you did there. Very good. Of course, Paul Ryan only brought his mother to show the old people in Florida that he did not, in fact, keep his personal old person locked in a cellar.

She only came along because she knows Florida is mostly flat and has no cliffs for him to push her over.

194 abolitionist  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:39:38am

re: #193 Expand Your Ground

But lots of swamps in Florida. [ed] Ok, that wasn't nice.

195 darthstar  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:44:38am

re: #193 Expand Your Ground

She only came along because she knows Florida is mostly flat and has no cliffs for him to push her over.

I just hope he gets her back into the car before the ketamine wears off.

196 Gus  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:50:35am

Yes. I was babbling and rambling.

197 darthstar  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:52:37am

Change these 90 million people from unlikely voters to actual voters, and all the billionaires in the world wouldn't be able to get Mitt Romney elected.

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198 Gus  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 9:03:38am
199 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 9:10:22am

re: #149 darthstar

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They always bring family, especially photogenic family. That's what a convention is for. I think Paul's three kids are probably going to be a bigger photo op.

200 allegro  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 9:10:43am

More Politi"fact"s:

The day after Republican Mitt Romney announced Paul Ryan as his running mate, President Barack Obama’s campaign tweeted a gender-specific warning about the Wisconsin vice presidential pick.

"Make sure the women in your life know: Paul Ryan supports banning all abortions, even in cases of rape or incest."

...

Our conclusion

President Obama, through a campaign tweet, pegged Paul Ryan as supporting a ban on abortions, "even in cases of rape or incest."

Ryan does oppose those exceptions. Obama’s Twitter claim misfires in saying Ryan supports banning "all" abortions. In some cases, he has supported an exception for when a mother’s life is at stake.

That’s an important detail that is left out. We rate Obama’s claim Half True.

Srsly?

201 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 9:12:51am

re: #180 Kronocide

KFC 1171P not dated, 1952. A Kennedy "Tea" in Worcester, Massachusetts, during the 1952 Kennedy campaign for United States Senate. Mrs. Rose Fitzgerald Kennedy, the candidate's mother, speaks, while John F. Kennedy (seated far left) and Kennedy's sisters Eunice (seated second from left) and Patricia (seated far right) listen. Photograph by Carroll Bisson Photographs, Worcester, Massachusetts, in the Kennedy Family Photograph Collection, John F. Kennedy Presidential Library and Museum, Boston.

It's the freaking Kennedys dude. Half their family ran were in politics.

Ryan's family is not.

If you don't like Ryan being toyed with for it, find a better example for your Balance cookie.

It just seems like a pointless thing to pick at him over. Politicians pose with relatives a lot. Pretending this is a special derp of Paul Ryan's is pointless.

202 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 9:14:38am

re: #189 Achilles Tang

I've never understood the difference between this view and the coming of the Mahdi. These guys should really get together.

Actually, I think Jesus returns along with the Mahdi, or they meet up somewhere--anyway, Jesus is in the Twelfther story somehow, as one of the backup prophets. I think. I don't understand the narrative very well.

203 Randall Gross  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 9:15:27am

re: #160 kmg

Because the GOP is more dangerous to the future right here, right now, in the US. They aren't terrorists, but if you look at larger historical trends terrorists have relatively little impact over long scales of time while political parties can have huge and long lasting deep impacts to everyone's long term futures.

E.G. Bismarck and his nationalist empire cohorts really shaped the 20th century a lot more than the Black Hand, even though the latter are given credit for triggering the First World War. Bismarck created the conditions that made the first world war a necessity by evolving the decaying Royalist philosophies and tribal feudalism into the far right Euro-fascism we see to this day, while the Black Hand merely reacted to the environment he created.

204 Gus  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 9:17:12am

re: #180 Kronocide

KFC 1171P not dated, 1952. A Kennedy "Tea" in Worcester, Massachusetts, during the 1952 Kennedy campaign for United States Senate. Mrs. Rose Fitzgerald Kennedy, the candidate's mother, speaks, while John F. Kennedy (seated far left) and Kennedy's sisters Eunice (seated second from left) and Patricia (seated far right) listen. Photograph by Carroll Bisson Photographs, Worcester, Massachusetts, in the Kennedy Family Photograph Collection, John F. Kennedy Presidential Library and Museum, Boston.

It's the freaking Kennedys dude. Half their family ran were in politics.

Ryan's family is not.

If you don't like Ryan being toyed with for it, find a better example for your Balance cookie.

I eagerly await Paul Ryan's mom's "Stepford Wife" like rambling. You know it's coming.

205 Kronocide  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 9:17:32am

re: #201 SanFranciscoZionist

It is practically pointless, yes. So is the balance of it.

206 HappyWarrior  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 9:17:41am

re: #200 allegro

More Politi"fact"s:

Srsly?

Hacks posing as non-partisans.

207 wrenchwench  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 9:17:59am

re: #198 Gus

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We had those chairs when I was a kid, two with the arm rests and four without, and the table that matched. They were fun to spin on.

208 Gus  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 9:18:20am

re: #206 HappyWarrior

Hacks posing as non-partisans.

Mostly true.

209 Gus  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 9:19:47am
210 Gus  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 9:21:12am
211 HappyWarrior  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 9:21:32am

re: #210 Gus

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Awesome.

212 Renaissance_Man  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 9:23:16am

re: #197 darthstar

Change these 90 million people from unlikely voters to actual voters, and all the billionaires in the world wouldn't be able to get Mitt Romney elected.

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Which is why mandatory voting would all but solve America's political problems overnight. Require voting, and there is simply no way a major party can run on a platform that is so nakedly harmful to the nation, no matter how many powerful allies they have.

As it is, though, the GOP's best bet is to have Romney and Ryan simply say nothing at all. Refuse all debates, refuse all public appearances, and await the election. The media, the most powerful entity in the US, can win it for them all on its own, and it very well might.

213 Gus  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 9:23:36am

re: #211 HappyWarrior

Awesome.

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214 HappyWarrior  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 9:25:01am

re: #212 Renaissance_Man

Which is why mandatory voting would all but solve America's political problems overnight. Require voting, and there is simply no way a major party can run on a platform that is so nakedly harmful to the nation, no matter how many powerful allies they have.

As it is, though, the GOP's best bet is to have Romney and Ryan simply say nothing at all. Refuse all debates, refuse all public appearances, and await the election. The media, the most powerful entity in the US, can win it for them all on its own, and it very well might.

Well I saw this on facebook today but it looks like they're already muting Ryan to a degree. [Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]
Really, I'm starting to think they know this was a bad pick and that really goes with what I was reading here yesterday about how Mrs. Romney and the Romney sons pushed the Ryan pick against the wishes of the advisers.

215 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 9:31:21am

[Link: www.sandiegozoo.org...]

check it out N

216 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 9:31:34am

OW

217 Gus  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 9:33:23am

Gribbit.

218 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 9:35:40am

See the baby?

219 wrenchwench  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 9:36:00am

re: #215 Stanley Sea

[Link: www.sandiegozoo.org...]

check it out N

IT'S BREATHING!

220 Varek Raith  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 9:36:09am

re: #218 Stanley Sea

See the baby?

Yep.
Cute little guy/gal.

221 Gus  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 9:37:15am

BTW. I'm pretty sure that Paul Ryan's mom probably doesn't even "need" SS and Medicare. So having her comment on Medicare is a bit absurd. Ayn Rand on the other hand "needed" SS and Medicare.

222 allegro  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 9:38:07am

re: #221 Gus

BTW. I'm pretty sure that Paul Ryan's mom probably doesn't even "need" SS and Medicare. So having her comment on Medicare is a bit absurd. Ayn Rand on the other hand "needed" SS and Medicare.

Yeah, what with all those multi-million dollar government contracts and all.

223 Irving  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 9:39:15am

re: #114 Kronocide

...and it's called The People's Republic of China, so obviously they're all Republicans.

224 Gus  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 9:40:01am

re: #222 allegro

Yeah, what with all those multi-million dollar government contracts and all.

More bologna from the Republican Party.

225 CuriousLurker  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 9:46:37am

re: #160 kmg

How crazy the Republicans have gotten?

Why don't you write something on the crazy that is Al Quds Day taking place in cities across America and the world today.

How come you aren't into that kind of crazy anymore?

I'd never even heard of Al Quds Day until today, so I had to look it up. It seems to be a Shia thing started by Iran. They're a tiny minority, so who cares? There's no shortage of crazy, hateful crap out there. Like the KKK, Geller, etc. their hate speech is protected by our Constitution. Deal with it.

So that's it? You just dropped by the thread to complain about how LGF has changed? There are still plenty armchair "counter-jihadist" sites that obsess over that crap 24/7 if you need a fear & hate fix. We've got a bunch of bat guano crazy wingnuts in Congress & in state governments across the country directly affecting our laws right now, yet you want to waste time having a case of the vapors over some Shia event that'll last a couple of hours and then disappear back into obscurity until next year? Get a grip. Sheesh.

226 Gus  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 9:47:23am

Czech 'Breivik imitator' arrested in Ostrava

A man suspected of planning attacks similar to those carried out in Norway by Anders Behring Breivik has been arrested in the Czech Republic, according to police.

Police said an assault rifle, explosives, ammunition and police clothing were found in his apartment.

The 29-year-old old man was detained in the eastern city of Ostrava a week ago.

Breivik, dressed as a police officer, shot dead 69 people on an island after setting off a bomb in Oslo last year.

The BBC's Rob Cameron in Prague says police in Ostrava were alerted to the suspect because he used the name of Breivik in email correspondence.

Police searched the apartment on 10 August, but have only now disclosed details of what was found.

Continues.

227 Gus  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 9:48:48am

Breivik Copycat Held in Czech Republic
20:01 18/08/2012
MOSCOW, August 18 (RIA Novosti)

Czech police detained a man alleged to have been planning terrorist attacks similar to the massacre carried out by Anders Behring Breivik in Norway in 2011, local media said.

The unnamed 29-year-old caught the police’s eye by using “Breivik” as an online nickname, Czech News Agency said on Saturday.

But the similarity ran deeper: when investigators searched the man’s home, they uncovered firearms, explosives and elements of police uniforms. Breivik, a rightwing radical who is on trial in Norway, killed 77 by planting a bomb in Oslo while going on a shooting rampage on the isle of Utoya dressed as a police officer.

Continues.

228 abolitionist  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 9:50:59am

re: #73 Gus

Yep. When I check dingage on a comment. Boom. Front page. Been happening for over a week I think.

Charles: Just happened for me, but it's far from always.

229 Gus  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 9:51:34am

Czech police find bomb, arrest Norway killer sympathiser

AFP - Police in the Czech Republic have arrested a man who sympathised with Norwegian mass killer Anders Behring Breivik and was likely planning a bomb attack, authorities said Saturday.

Police swooped on the 29-year-old man's apartment in the northeast town of Ostrava on August 10 and found a large stash of weapons including an automatic weapon, a bomb and other explosive material.

"The components of the explosive device were operational," Ostrava police chief Radovan Vojta said.

He said it was not immediately known who the man, whose name was not released, may have been targeting, adding that the investigation was in its early stages.

Continues.

230 Kronocide  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 9:51:39am

re: #223 Irving

...and it's called The People's Republic of China, so obviously they're all Republicans.

Zing!

231 CuriousLurker  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 9:52:04am

re: #228 abolitionist

Charles: Just happened for me, but it's far from always.

I started happening to me too last night. Not every time, just occasionally.

232 Gus  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 9:52:46am

re: #228 abolitionist

Charles: Just happened for me, but it's far from always.

Yeah. It's infrequent yet occasional.

233 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 9:53:50am

re: #73 Gus

Yep. When I check dingage on a comment. Boom. Front page. Been happening for over a week I think.

I've seen this happen, too - trying to find out why.

234 Gus  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 9:57:01am

re: #233 Charles Johnson

I've seen this happen, too - trying to find out why.

Yeah, happens occasionally. Sometimes it completely stops working and I have to refresh the page.

See that news out of the Czech Republic? What are the odds that we're looking at yet another right wing crazy.

235 Varek Raith  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 9:59:00am

re: #234 Gus

Yeah, happens occasionally. Sometimes it completely stops working and I have to refresh the page.

See that news out of the Czech Republic? What are the odds that we're looking at yet another right wing crazy.

Politifact Rating: Tralse.

236 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 9:59:42am

re: #234 Gus

Yeah, happens occasionally. Sometimes it completely stops working and I have to refresh the page.

I think it may have started when I upgraded to the latest jQuery. I'm reverting to the previous version to see if it helps.

237 wrenchwench  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 10:02:00am

re: #225 CuriousLurker

I'd never even heard of Al Quds Day until today, so I had to look it up. It seems to be a Shia thing started by Iran. They're a tiny minority, so who cares? There's no shortage of crazy, hateful crap out there. Like the KKK, Geller, etc. their hate speech is protected by our Constitution. Deal with it.

So that's it? You just dropped by the thread to complain about how LGF has changed? There are still plenty armchair "counter-jihadist" sites that obsess over that crap 24/7 if you need a fear & hate fix. We've got a bunch of bat guano crazy wingnuts in Congress & in state governments across the country directly affecting our laws right now, yet you want to waste time having a case of the vapors over some Shia event that'll last a couple of hours and then disappear back into obscurity until next year? Get a grip. Sheesh.

Not to mention the lazy comment dropper could post a Page on whatever he or she finds is the most important kind of crazy. Been here since '06, that's plenty of time to learn how it works.

238 Gus  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 10:03:10am

Ammo they found...

Image: 1345286292_P201208180144801.jpg

More here...

239 Randall Gross  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 10:05:31am

[Link: www.bbc.co.uk...]

240 Varek Raith  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 10:06:10am

re: #200 allegro

Lol.

Ryan does oppose those exceptions. Obama’s Twitter claim misfires in saying Ryan supports banning "all" abortions. In some cases, he has supported an exception for when a mother’s life is at stake.

Contradictory much?
In some cases? Does this mean in other cases he hasn't?
Which is it?
Paul Ryan Sponsored Fetal Personhood Bill, Opposes Family Planning Funds

241 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 10:06:31am
242 jaunte  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 10:07:14am

Watched a little of Ryan's speech to residents of The Villages this morning. Turned it off when he started talking about how much he "admires and respects" our military veterans, to a lot of audience flag-waving.

The Ryan budget plan would reduce spending on veteran’s benefits, while providing additional funds for weapons and military programs that even military leaders believe are unnecessary.

According to a recent message from Veterans for Common Sense, Rep. Ryan’s 2013 budget plan would cut $11 billion from benefit programs for veterans. It would replace current veteran’s health programs with a voucher system, as Ryan has proposed for Social Security. Costs for veterans would increase.[Link: davidcortright.net...]

243 abolitionist  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 10:08:33am

re: #239 Randall Gross

[Link: www.bbc.co.uk...]

From your link, Czech 'Breivik imitator' arrested in Ostrava:

Police searched the apartment on 10 August, but have only now disclosed details of what was found.

Our correspondent says police raided the property after being tipped off that he was planning to detonate a large explosive device crafted from an aircraft bomb.

The man was carrying a remote controlled detonator when he was arrested, he says.

244 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 10:08:33am
In a society where the rights and potential of women are constrained, no man can be truly free. He may have power, but he will not have freedom.

~Mary Robinson (1944- ), lawyer, academic, first female, President of Ireland, United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights

morning all!

245 CuriousLurker  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 10:09:02am

re: #237 wrenchwench

Not to mention the lazy comment dropper could post a Page on whatever he or she finds is the most important kind of crazy. Been here since '06, that's plenty of time to learn how it works.

Yeah, you never see any of the whiners put forth any of their own effort WRT to content. They just come in, stomp their feet, and then leave.

246 Gus  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 10:09:13am

Photo gallery here.

[Link: moravskoslezsky.denik.cz...]

248 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 10:12:03am

re: #148 allegro

Saturday morning funnies:

Donald Trump: Women 'Don't Get What is Going On' with Obama

Now, I'll just get my apron on and get back to the kitchen like a good little girl.

This why GOPers are tying so hard to turn Paul Ryan into a sex symbol, they think women are voting for Obama because he's hot. Now he is hot, but that's not why he's winning women voters.

249 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 10:12:04am

re: #242 jaunte

Turned it off when he started talking about how much he "admires and respects" our military veterans, to a lot of audience flag-waving.

Translation: More medals, fewer benefits.

250 Gus  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 10:13:36am

Breivik-sympatisør arrestert i Tsjekkia

Includes images of the suspect.

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Image: Breivik-kopi_991080a.jpg

251 Varek Raith  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 10:14:25am

re: #250 Gus

Breivik-sympatisør arrestert i Tsjekkia

Includes images of the suspect.

Image: VMan-P636606_680x383.jpg

Image: Breivik-kopi_991080a.jpg

Yep, he's got that psycho look about him.

252 jaunte  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 10:14:27am

"Welcome back from the war; here's your healthcare coupon."

253 Gus  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 10:16:41am

re: #251 Varek Raith

Yep, he's got that psycho look about him.

Yeah. Smiling. This is some pretty serious shit.

254 HappyWarrior  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 10:20:08am

Another nutcase sigh.

255 Gus  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 10:22:36am

re: #254 HappyWarrior

Another nutcase sigh.

Image: 387397.jpg

More here.

256 HappyWarrior  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 10:23:37am

re: #255 Gus

Image: 387397.jpg

More here.

Gosh that dude has a creepy smile.

257 Gus  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 10:25:37am

re: #256 HappyWarrior

Gosh that dude has a creepy smile.

This one had a lot of bomb materials. Maybe more than Breivik.

258 Gus  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 10:26:21am

Another gallery.

[Link: www.rozhlas.cz...]

259 HappyWarrior  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 10:26:28am

re: #257 Gus

This one had a lot of bomb materials. Maybe more than Breivik.

Scary considering how many Brevik was able to kill.

260 Varek Raith  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 10:26:50am

Looks like they prevented a major attack.

261 Gus  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 10:30:27am

Gotta be careful with these images in stories. Sometimes they'll use a file photo.

262 HappyWarrior  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 10:31:40am

re: #260 Varek Raith

Looks like they prevented a major attack.

Yep, props to the Czech police. Anyhow, I was looking at where in the Czech Republic the city of Ostrava is and it's near the Slovak and Polish borders. Not sure if that has any meaning at all.

263 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 10:37:56am

re: #248 moderatelyradicalliberal

This why GOPers are tying so hard to turn Paul Ryan into a sex symbol, they think women are voting for Obama because he's hot. Now he is hot, but that's not why he's winning women voters.

Paul Ryan a sex symbol?

*wretch*

he looks like the undead (no disrespect to Varek)

264 b_sharp  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 10:39:59am

re: #232 Gus

Yeah. It's infrequent yet occasional.

This sounds like some kind of porn.

265 Gus  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 10:41:14am

re: #264 b_sharp

This sounds like some kind of porn.

Really? I was going for the douche commercial feel.

266 HappyWarrior  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 10:41:24am

re: #263 ggt

Paul Ryan a sex symbol?

*wretch*

he looks like the undead (no disrespect to Varek)

I think I saw someone post something on facebook quoting Hannity as saying that he is. Seems like more right wing sexual projection.

267 labman57  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 11:27:39am

He's simply aping similar comments previously made by that poster child of right wing constitutional revisionism, Rand Paul.

268 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 12:46:32pm

re: #45 Gus

OMG. Serisously? Vdare writer. Of course. It's so sad. Michelle was actually a bright young woman at one point. Another one that went bonkers after 9/11. She might have PTSD. I think a lot of Americans have 9/11-PTSD. She probably could be cured.

It's been almost eleven years at this point; I seriously doubt anyone that went creeping towards RWNJ-dom after 9/11 that hasn't been brought to their senses by this point because of the company that they are keeping and the stuff that they are doing/saying isn't going to be "cured".

Turning weak minds away from fear and hatred is extremely hard under the best of circumstances, but people have to want to; I happen to believe that Malkin, Geller, and their ilk don't want to be helped, because fear and hatred gave them fame and fortune that they would not otherwise enjoy.

269 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 12:51:10pm

re: #238 Gus

Ammo they found...

Image: 1345286292_P201208180144801.jpg

More here...

I'm sure he wuz framed. Probably by Muslim secularists.

270 Gus  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 12:51:23pm

re: #160 kmg

How crazy the Republicans have gotten?

Why don't you write something on the crazy that is Al Quds Day taking place in cities across America and the world today.

How come you aren't into that kind of crazy anymore?

Breaking news. Al Quds Day is not Todd Akin running for congress who will have more impact on American's lives than some obscure day I had to Google. Sure enough, you can go to Free Republic and beat your chest there.

271 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 12:53:36pm

re: #248 moderatelyradicalliberal

This why GOPers are tying so hard to turn Paul Ryan into a sex symbol, they think women are voting for Obama because he's hot. Now he is hot, but that's not why he's winning women voters.

The President is a very handsome man, but I was a Hillary supporter first, and she's not my type at all.

How well did this 'pick a HOT VP' thing work out for McCain? I know relatively few men who wouldn't say Sarah looks damn good, but not enough of them voted for her.

272 kmg  Sat, Aug 18, 2012 3:41:21pm

re: #174 Obdicut

So, you found the needle in the haystack, lol.

273 labman57  Sun, Aug 19, 2012 8:42:43am

We are the Tea Party movement. Our goals:

1. Take back the country, because we refuse to be associated with it so long as that black, foreign-born, socialist Muslim is living in the White House.

2. Return to the values and tenets of our Founding Fathers. If they wanted a Civil Rights Act in America, why did so many own slaves? If they believed that women and ethnic minorities should be able to vote, then why didn't they include these rights in their final draft of the U.S. Constitution? And while we're at it, let's repeal the 17th Amendment, because we really cannot trust the simple-minded electorate with important decisions such as who should represent the states in the U.S. Senate.

3. Destroy "ObamaCare", because the government has no business regulating the private health care insurance industry. And because the government has no right to kill grandma. That's the job of your HMO or PPO. And by the way, keep your filthy hands off my Medicare coverage!

4. Create a smaller government, because the feds have no business telling Americans what do to ... unless you're gay, or you wish to purchase marijuana for personal use, or you need an abortion, or you wish to obtain contraceptives.

5. Demonstrate our support for the health and well-being of women … by greatly reducing affordable access to breast cancer screenings and other preventative health care resources … and by requiring women to "spread them" and provide a womb with a view for Uncle Sam.

6. Deny the impact of human activity on climate change. Because everyone knows that if global warming is real, it's simply "God's will".
7. Make Christianity the official religion and English the official language of the United States, because native English-speaking, Christian folks are the only truly patriotic Americans.

8. Destroy labor unions, because besides the 40-hour work week, paid vacation time, workers' compensation, sick days, overtime pay, regulations regarding workplace health and safety conditions, health benefits, pension plans, etc. … what have they ever done for the typical American wage earner?

9. Stop spending so much money! Except when we need to invade another country that pisses us off. Or if it's done to support programs and policies that help to further our own political agendas.
To that end, let's drastically reduce funding for food stamps and other programs that help people in poverty to make ends meet … such as providing hungry children from impoverished families with a nutritious meal while at school.

10. Reduce the deficit ... at the same time that we're gonna give kickbacks to the lobbyists and huge tax breaks to all of those corporations and ultra-wealthy individuals that helped to finance our little "party".

11. Embrace an economic scorched earth policy approach to reducing the national debt. Because if Congress refuses to eliminate Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security, we'll do everything in our power to destroy the economic viability of the nation. Negotiation and compromise is not in our repertoire -- It's our way or the highway.

12. To demonstrate our commitment to our sacred U.S. Constitution, we strive to eliminate those Amendments that conflict with our ideology and simply ignore other sections that we find inconvenient to honor.

13. To demonstrate our patriotic love for this nation, we propose to secede from the Union.

14. And if you won't let us attain our goals by electing us to office ... well, we can always resort to "Second Amendment remedies".

Any questions?

274 Patricia Kayden  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 3:58:39am

Akin "apologized" for the rape comments based on all the blowback -- even from the Righties. Has he apologized for the voting rights comments? Seems like there was no blowback re those comments, which I find disturbing.


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