Yes, the Right Is Still Staging a Massive Fake Freak-Out About Joe Biden

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Amazing. The right wing media are still shrieking about Joe Biden’s “chains” comment, even though not a single one of these demagogues honestly believes there was a racial intent to it: Gibbs: Biden Remark No More Racial Than Boehner Saying ‘Unshackle Wall Street’.

Senior Obama campaign adviser Robert Gibbs on Sunday defended Joe Biden, saying a recent comment that GOP economic policies would put people “back in chains” was not racially motivated and claiming it was no different than how Republicans, including House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio), speak of Wall Street reform.

Gibbs was asked by Fox News Sunday host Chris Wallace if the remark, made by Biden at a campaign stop in Virginia before a racially-mixed audience last week, was “race baiting.”

“No more race baiting than when John Boehner says ‘let’s unshackle Wall Street, let’s unshackle big business,’” said Gibbs.

What the hell is wrong with the right? Do they really believe anyone with at least two brain cells is buying this idiotic talking point? They made up another controversy out of thin air and their own sense of racial grievance, and they’re all freaking out in unison. It’s pathetic.

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Flounder Sun, Aug 19, 2012 10:37:31am

I wanted a Cher post :(

darthstar Sun, Aug 19, 2012 10:38:00am

Joe Biden hasn't made a verbal gaffe in three years. The chains comment was nothing. They're just grasping at straws. I listened to people on TV this morning talking about Obama needing to rein in Biden so he doesn't make gaffes. Fuck them. It's bullshit.

Henchman Ghazi-808 Sun, Aug 19, 2012 10:38:10am

I've read that Biden's remarks were a 'poor choice of words' as some kind of concession. I don't see what was wrong at all.

BARACK THE VOTE Sun, Aug 19, 2012 10:40:12am

What the hell is wrong with the right? Do they really believe anyone with at least two brain cells is buying this idiotic talking point? They made up another controversy out of thin air and their own sense of racial grievance, and they’re all freaking out in unison. It’s pathetic.

It's all about controlling the media narrative. Invent a freakout and spend hours and days obsessing over it-- those are hours and days not spent on, say, debunking the Romney/Ryan lies about Medicare.

SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Aug 19, 2012 10:41:34am

re: #3 Kronocide

I've read that Biden's remarks were a 'poor choice of words' as some kind of concession. I don't see what was wrong at all.

It was a very deliberate statement.

Saying it didn't have racial overtones...eh, I think it did. The phrasing, and who he said it to was no mistake. The question is whether you figure it was OK for him to say.

Gus Sun, Aug 19, 2012 10:42:19am

re: #4 Millicent Islam

It's all about controlling the media narrative. Invent a freakout and spend hours and days obsessing over it-- those are hours and days not spent on, say, debunking the Romney/Ryan lies about Medicare.

I've noticed a big difference between the left and the right. The left tends to obsess over something for less time while the right will drone on and on and on. Sort of how they're still warbling about Jimmy Carter or something Democrat "X" said on October 3, 1973. They're more inclined to OCD.

Lidane Sun, Aug 19, 2012 10:43:22am

What the hell is wrong with the right?

SO many answers for this question, so little time.

BARACK THE VOTE Sun, Aug 19, 2012 10:43:47am

re: #6 Gus

I've noticed a big difference between the left and the right. The left tends to obsess over something for less time while the right will drone on and on and on. Sort of how they're still warbling about Jimmy Carter or something Democrat "X" said on October 3, 1973. They're more inclined to OCD.

The left also doesn't have as strong of a ~~puke funnel~~ right wing scream machine.

bratwurst Sun, Aug 19, 2012 10:44:44am

Keep in mind that these are the same people who hoped "lipstick on a pig"-gate would turn the last general election around for McCain/Palin.

Charles Johnson Sun, Aug 19, 2012 10:45:31am

re: #5 SanFranciscoZionist

It was a very deliberate statement.

Saying it didn't have racial overtones...eh, I think it did. The phrasing, and who he said it to was no mistake. The question is whether you figure it was OK for him to say.

It was a direct response to the GOP's "unchain Wall Street" talking point. It had nothing to do with race at all. He was talking about the economy.

Gus Sun, Aug 19, 2012 10:45:50am

re: #8 Millicent Islam

The left also doesn't have as strong of a ~~puke funnel~~ right wing scream machine.

BEHAVE YOURSELVES! BEHAVE YOURSELVES!

Breitbart and other Malkinisms. They have a deep stronghold on the internets. The right wing scream machine! Ourrageous outrage! Blogging about Muslims 24/7. Blogging about ME 24/7. They're weird.

Henchman Ghazi-808 Sun, Aug 19, 2012 10:49:03am

The best defense is a good offense. Reaching for Biden FauxGaffes is desperation.

Not to mention, Biden's gaffes, when they do happen, are pretty benign. If not funny.

Gus Sun, Aug 19, 2012 10:49:08am

re: #2 darthstar

Joe Biden hasn't made a verbal gaffe in three years. The chains comment was nothing. They're just grasping at straws. I listened to people on TV this morning talking about Obama needing to rein in Biden so he doesn't make gaffes. Fuck them. It's bullshit.

America. Outraged over Biden's comments. This is truly an outrage! Biden needs to be reined in now!!! But hey. Next time we need to come up with some fake war we can go ahead and bomb Baghdad to the ground and kill over 100,000 people over some fake "yellowcake" memo. Now that's OK. Bunch of sanctimonious double-talking assholes.

SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Aug 19, 2012 10:49:44am

re: #10 Charles Johnson

It was a direct response to the GOP's "unchain Wall Street" talking point. It had nothing to do with race at all. He was talking about the economy.

I disagree. I think that when you're speaking in Alabama, and you say that people will be 'put back in chains', you're making, if not a racial reference, an historical one.

Referencing 'unchain Wall Street' does not prevent that nuance from getting through.

SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Aug 19, 2012 10:50:34am

re: #14 SanFranciscoZionist

I disagree. I think that when you're speaking in Alabama, and you say that people will be 'put back in chains', you're making, if not a racial reference, an historical one.

Referencing 'unchain Wall Street' does not prevent that nuance from getting through.

It was an effective bit of language, which is probably another reason (beside the desire for drama) that it's being leapt on with such passion.

jaunte Sun, Aug 19, 2012 10:52:56am

They made up another controversy out of thin air and their own sense of racial grievance

I think part of it is that many of these people have no personal understanding of racism; they see it only as an unfair accusation directed at 'their side', a political tactic, and are frustrated that it doesn't seem to work for them as a tactic, no matter how often they try.

BARACK THE VOTE Sun, Aug 19, 2012 10:54:38am

re: #16 jaunte

I think part of it is that many of these people have no personal understanding of racism; they see it only as an unfair accusation directed at 'their side', a political tactic, and are frustrated that it doesn't seem to work for them as a tactic, no matter how often they try.

Well said. I think you're right. It's yet another reason why they don't take accusations of racism seriously -- they think it's a pose struck purely for political advantage.

Gus Sun, Aug 19, 2012 10:57:15am

Let's put it this way. Biden's comments is like a butterfly in a hurricane compared to what Wall Street has done over the years. This was even the part of the initial rallying cry of Teabaggers. These people are confused and lost much as most human have been with their cognitive dissonance over the past 2012 years. It's not about Biden. It's Wall Street and they're part of the reason this country continues to see people wages stagnating while a tiny minority continues to amass wealth. That the "Walmart" Walton family grubs 40 percent of American's net worth is the true outrage. Suckers.

Amory Blaine Sun, Aug 19, 2012 10:59:38am

Exactly what about the comment is untrue?

Henchman Ghazi-808 Sun, Aug 19, 2012 11:00:06am

re: #14 SanFranciscoZionist

I disagree. I think that when you're speaking in Alabama, and you say that people will be 'put back in chains', you're making, if not a racial reference, an historical one.

Referencing 'unchain Wall Street' does not prevent that nuance from getting through.

He's speaking to 'all the people' and the subject was not race or racism but responses to his opponent's use of 'unshackle' with regards to banking industry and regulation.

Updated 1:23 p.m. - DANVILLE, VA -- Vice President Joe Biden said Tuesday that a Republican-led effort to loosen new regulations on Wall Street would put voters "back in chains."

"Romney wants to, he said in the first 100 days, he's gonna let the big banks again write their own rules," Biden said of the GOP nominee's proposals to roll back the Obama administration's financial reforms. "'Unchain Wall Street!'"

Lowering his voice, Biden added, "They're going to put you all back in chains."

I don't think he meant race or slavery imagery at all. This is a Tempest in a MicroTeaspoon.

SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Aug 19, 2012 11:04:01am

re: #20 Kronocide

He's speaking to 'all the people' and the subject was not race or racism but responses to his opponent's use of 'unshackle' with regards to banking industry and regulation.

I don't think he meant race or slavery imagery at all. This is a Tempest in a MicroTeaspoon.

Would it be a problem if he meant slavery imagery? And why?

It's as though people are defending him against the very idea. Why? What would be so terrible if that's exactly what he meant? Do people disagree?

gwangung Sun, Aug 19, 2012 11:04:24am

re: #10 Charles Johnson

It was a direct response to the GOP's "unchain Wall Street" talking point. It had nothing to do with race at all. He was talking about the economy.

Pretty much.

Though there might be SOME overtones (the language is rich enough to have that...), it's nowhere near the dog whistles the right regularly indulges in.

Gus Sun, Aug 19, 2012 11:05:25am

Metaphor

A metaphor is a literary figure of speech that describes a subject by asserting that it is, on some point of comparison, the same as another otherwise unrelated object. Metaphor is a type of analogy and is closely related to other rhetorical figures of speech that achieve their effects via association, comparison or resemblance including allegory, hyperbole, and simile.

Gus Sun, Aug 19, 2012 11:06:25am

Can't find it now but Romney's used a similar slavery metaphor in the past. We all do. No need to turn this into a metaphorical holocaust.

BARACK THE VOTE Sun, Aug 19, 2012 11:06:57am

re: #24 Gus

Can't find it now but Romney's used a similar slavery metaphor in the past. We all do. No need to turn this into a metaphorical holocaust.

You said holocaust! /

Henchman Ghazi-808 Sun, Aug 19, 2012 11:07:22am

re: #21 SanFranciscoZionist

Would it be a problem if he meant slavery imagery? And why?

It's as though people are defending him against the very idea. Why? What would be so terrible if that's exactly what he meant? Do people disagree?

I don't think it would be a problem but we're getting into theoreticals. But assuming he absolutely meant to invoke slavery imagery I don't think it was charged rhetoric worthy of any outrage.

Gus Sun, Aug 19, 2012 11:08:09am

re: #25 Millicent Islam

You said holocaust! /

You see what I did there? ;)

allegro Sun, Aug 19, 2012 11:08:12am

Slavery is an ethnic-neutral term. Certainly in the US, our history of slavery has been to the largest extent the slavery of African-Americans. Elsewhere, it has been Jews and others, often for poverty related reasons. Slavery still exists today throughout the world with human trafficking that I believe is primarily young women of all ethnicities. Financial slavery, which is what Biden was discussing, affects all of us. It is not a racist statement at all.

SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Aug 19, 2012 11:08:39am

re: #26 Kronocide

I don't think it would be a problem but we're getting into theoreticals. But assuming he absolutely meant to invoke slavery imagery I don't think it was charged rhetoric worthy of any outrage.

They're pissed because he's calling them out, and using effective language to do so.

I'm fine with that.

Gus Sun, Aug 19, 2012 11:08:44am

Interesting to see the party of bigots get so PC.

Charles Johnson Sun, Aug 19, 2012 11:09:08am

re: #14 SanFranciscoZionist

I disagree. I think that when you're speaking in Alabama, and you say that people will be 'put back in chains', you're making, if not a racial reference, an historical one.

Referencing 'unchain Wall Street' does not prevent that nuance from getting through.

Er, it was in Virginia, not Alabama.

Henchman Ghazi-808 Sun, Aug 19, 2012 11:09:23am

re: #24 Gus

Can't find it now but Romney's used a similar slavery metaphor in the past. We all do. No need to turn this into a metaphorical holocaust.

How about a Metaphorical Macarena?

Gus Sun, Aug 19, 2012 11:09:49am

re: #31 Charles Johnson

Er, it was in Virginia, not Alabama.

"Real Virginia" or Northern Virginia?

*Palinism

BARACK THE VOTE Sun, Aug 19, 2012 11:10:29am

re: #30 Gus

Interesting to see the party of bigots get so PC.

It's fun watching them twist themselves into knots trying to explain how the party running a black guy for POTUS is the really racist party.

Gus Sun, Aug 19, 2012 11:11:28am

re: #34 Millicent Islam

It's fun watching them twist themselves into knots trying to explain how the party running a black guy for POTUS is the really racist party.

The party in which more than half believe that Obama is really A KENYAN MOOZLIM!!

allegro Sun, Aug 19, 2012 11:12:19am

It is now a perfect rainy Sunday. I have my Mimosas.

That is all.

SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Aug 19, 2012 11:12:25am

re: #31 Charles Johnson

Er, it was in Virginia, not Alabama.

My mistake.

Same reference.

BARACK THE VOTE Sun, Aug 19, 2012 11:12:25am

re: #35 Gus

The party in which more than half believe that Obama is really A KENYAN MOOZLIM!!

That's when they're not calling him an Indonesian communist.

Henchman Ghazi-808 Sun, Aug 19, 2012 11:14:31am

Kenyan Keynesian Kommunist!

Whiteboard said it, not me.

Gus Sun, Aug 19, 2012 11:14:51am

Cry me a river. They're lucky Biden didn't let it all hang out. Biden was right and telling the truth. Get over it Republicans. Go back to your Southern Strategy and Lee Atwater games. Go to your CPAC and give posthumous awards to Jesse Helms and Strom Thurmond. Go read your Heritage studies from an organization started by a racist bigot. John Derbyshire at National Review which was started through the efforts of William "The Negro Problem" Buckley.

BARACK THE VOTE Sun, Aug 19, 2012 11:15:45am

re: #40 Gus

You're feisty this morning! Allegro needs to share her mimosas with you. :)

Gus Sun, Aug 19, 2012 11:16:24am

Todd Akin suggests "female body has ways of shutting down" pregnancy in cases of rape. Did he graduate high school?? youtu.be/fdisTOKom5I
— American Bridge (@American_Bridge) August 19, 2012

Henchman Ghazi-808 Sun, Aug 19, 2012 11:16:55am

re: #40 Gus

Cry me a river. They're lucky Biden didn't let it all hang out. Biden was right and telling the truth. Get over it Republicans. Go back to your Southern Strategy and Lee Atwater games. Go to your CPAC and give posthumous awards to Jesse Helms and Strom Thurmond. Go read your Heritage studies from an organization started by a racist bigot. John Derbyshire at National Review which was started through the efforts of William "The Negro Problem" Buckley.

I Robert Byrd fart in your general direction.

Gus Sun, Aug 19, 2012 11:17:01am

re: #41 Millicent Islam

You're feisty this morning! Allegro needs to share her mimosas with you. :)

When you got nothing; you got nothing to lose. Just a little bit. ;)

allegro Sun, Aug 19, 2012 11:17:07am

re: #41 Millicent Islam

You're feisty this morning! Allegro needs to share her mimosas with you. :)

Happy to! Since I could only get a half gallon of OJ and wanted it to come out even, I got 3 bottles of cheap champagne. Heh. Gonna be a fun day.

BARACK THE VOTE Sun, Aug 19, 2012 11:17:59am

re: #42 Gus

Oh how disgusting. So if you get pregnant from a rape, he probably thinks that means it wasn't really rape.

allegro Sun, Aug 19, 2012 11:18:23am

re: #46 Millicent Islam

Oh how disgusting. So if you get pregnant from a rape, he probably thinks that means it wasn't really rape.

There it is.

Gus Sun, Aug 19, 2012 11:18:57am

re: #46 Millicent Islam

Oh how disgusting. So if you get pregnant from a rape, he probably thinks that means it wasn't really rape.

I think he's a Republican. Hang on. Let me check.

BARACK THE VOTE Sun, Aug 19, 2012 11:19:10am

re: #45 allegro

Happy to! Since I could only get a half gallon of OJ and wanted it to come out even, I got 3 bottles of cheap champagne. Heh. Gonna be a fun day.

Wow, that sounds GREAT. Enjoy!

jaunte Sun, Aug 19, 2012 11:20:02am

re: #46 Millicent Islam

He does say "IF it's a 'legitimate' rape."

Gus Sun, Aug 19, 2012 11:20:32am

Recommended. ;)

OhNoZombies! Sun, Aug 19, 2012 11:20:51am

Is it just me, or did all this focus on Biden start just after Romney picked Ryan?
Nutters need to be distracted from the fact that Ryan sucks.

BARACK THE VOTE Sun, Aug 19, 2012 11:21:00am

re: #50 jaunte

He does say "IF it's a 'legitimate' rape."

As opposed to all those illegitimate rapes, responsible for all those illegitimate children. I bet he'd be fine and dandy with punishments that make the victim marry her rapist.

Gus Sun, Aug 19, 2012 11:21:37am

The proverbial Republican "mini-skirt" rape defense is probably in there somewhere.

allegro Sun, Aug 19, 2012 11:24:17am

re: #53 Millicent Islam

As opposed to all those illegitimate rapes, responsible for all those illegitimate children. I bet he'd be fine and dandy with punishments that make the victim marry her rapist.

Or the latest attempts to make it possible for rapists to prevent their victims from aborting their babies. Talk about evil.

OhNoZombies! Sun, Aug 19, 2012 11:24:52am

re: #54 Gus

The proverbial Republican "mini-skirt" rape defense is probably in there somewhere.

Dang it, you beat me to it !

Gus Sun, Aug 19, 2012 11:25:31am

re: #56 OhNoZombies!

Dang it, you beat me to it !

The ~~Republican~~ Vaginal Probe Party.

BARACK THE VOTE Sun, Aug 19, 2012 11:26:13am

re: #57 Gus

The ~~Republican~~ Vaginal Probe Party.

Government small enough to be aborted with a coathanger!

Gus Sun, Aug 19, 2012 11:26:35am

#ThingsThatEnrageRepublicans twitter.com/AngryBlackLady...
— Imani ABL (@AngryBlackLady) August 19, 2012

OhNoZombies! Sun, Aug 19, 2012 11:28:02am

re: #57 Gus

Now, instead of calling them the GOP, I'm gonna start calling them the VPP.

Gus Sun, Aug 19, 2012 11:29:43am

re: #60 OhNoZombies!

Now, instead of calling them the GOP, I'm gonna start calling them the VPP.

My favorite is POG or Party of God. GOP is backwards. In more ways than one. Of course it's their God which is not subject to the diverse interpretation of most Americans and people around their world.

Henchman Ghazi-808 Sun, Aug 19, 2012 11:30:20am

Illegitimate Rape = euphemism for in cases where she didn't ask for it.

Gus Sun, Aug 19, 2012 11:30:25am

Hahaha!

Oh my God. Well, there go Republican hopes for Senate control. 2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/08/todd-a...
— John Podhoretz (@jpodhoretz) August 19, 2012

Henchman 26 Sun, Aug 19, 2012 11:35:06am

"...their own sense of racial grievance..."

Their sense of racial grievance is that they're not allowed to 'call a spade a spade' with impunity.

JRCMYP Sun, Aug 19, 2012 5:41:34pm

Thankfully, no one is listening.

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