Audio: Mike Huckabee and Todd Akin Explain the GOP Concept of ‘Forcible Rape’

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Todd Akin went on Mike Huckabee’s radio show today to try to explain that when he said “legitimate rape,” he really meant “forcible rape.”

This is a very important concept to today’s vaginaphobic Republican Party, because if they can get the public to go along with this Dark Ages talking point they can force women to bear the babies of rapists.

Wow, that sounded harsh. But true.

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103 comments
1 Kragar  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:27:52am

So can Akin define Forcible for us now?

2 erik_t  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:28:01am

The idea of unforcible rape is a misnomer. Rape is force via sex. That's kind of pretty much exactly what it means.

3 Mattand  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:28:15am

Have any of the conservatives who post here actually condemned this miserable SOB for his misogynistic views?

On another note, gotta love Akin's hole digging skills.

Oh yeah, and fuck Mike Huckabee for giving this jackass more air time.

4 Interesting Times  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:28:35am
5 erik_t  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:28:55am

re: #3 Mattand

Have any of the conservatives who post here actually condemned this miserable SOB for his misogynistic views?

We got a 'I wouldn't recommend voting for him until he recants' from DF.

6 nines09  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:29:06am

Mike Huckabee. One more brain dead charlatan defending the indefensible.

7 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:29:07am

Rape, shmape, forcing somebody else to have sex is bad, mmkay.

8 Mattand  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:30:20am

re: #5 erik_t

We got a 'I wouldn't recommend voting for him until he recants' from DF.

Christ, that's really fucking sad.

9 abolitionist  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:31:58am

Just shoot me Huck.

10 erik_t  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:32:42am

But seriously holy shit this man is a fucking turn-the-knob-to-eleven nutter.

In 1991, as a state legislator, Akin questioned whether anti-marital rape legislation might be used “in a real messy divorce as a tool and a legal weapon to beat up on the husband.” He ultimately voted for the bill.

In 2010, he was one of 13 to vote against expressing support for the goals and ideals of the National School Lunch Program.

When he first ran for Congress in 2000 he fell under scrutiny for writing a 1995 letter of support to the 1st Missouri Volunteers — a fringe, anti-abortion private militia.

In June 2011, Akin told Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council, that “the heart of liberalism really is a hatred for God and a belief that government should replace God.”

In April, Akin cited a law Democrats passed in 2010 that saves billions of dollars by preventing private banks from profiting, risk free, on federally backed student loans as an example of the notion that “America has got the equivalent of stage three cancer of socialism, because the federal government is tampering in all kind of stuff it has no business tampering in.” When offered the chance to clarify, he declined, saying “I called a spade a spade.”

11 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:32:50am

It's a little disappointing that there's not an equal amount of media focus on his absurd woo-woo claim about the certain secret secretions, particularly seeing how he's on the Space, Science, and Technology committee.

12 nines09  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:33:39am

Compassionate Mike "You're a burned down house" Huckabee. Putting God back in your life one insult at a time.

13 Kragar  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:33:55am

So, if a boss says he'll fire a woman unless she puts out, is that forcible?

If a guy gets a girl drunk, then has sex when she is passed out, is that forcible?

I'm really confused about forcible and I wish Akin would clarify what he meant.
/

14 erik_t  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:34:04am

re: #8 Mattand

Christ, that's really fucking sad.

The actual statement. Any misrepresentation was accidental and due to my own feeble memory.

15 Gus  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:34:11am
16 Gus  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:35:08am
17 Kragar  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:35:14am

re: #15 Gus

Is he reporting or predicting?

18 nines09  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:35:36am

re: #15 Gus

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But will he go live in a cave far, far away and never be heard from again? That's the real question.

19 Gus  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:35:47am

re: #17 Kragar

Is he reporting or predicting?

Predicting.

20 OhNoZombies!  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:36:15am

Had to stop listening when he invoked the deficit.
Invoking Obama is desperate BS.
If you can parse rape, then the specificity of a hate crime should make perfect sense.
Right GOPers?

21 Kragar  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:37:26am

SEND IN THE CLOWNS!!!

Religious Right Groups Hosting Prayer Rally to kick off Republican National Convention

Congresswoman Michele Bachmann, disgraced pseudo-historian David Barton and anti-feminist activist Phyllis Schlafly are participating in a prayer rally hosted by Focus on the Family’s CitizenLink and the Florida Family Policy Council in Tampa right before the opening of the Republican National Convention. CitizenLink head Tom Minnery, FFPC’s John Stemberger, former congressman J.C. Watts, Proposition 8 leader Jim Garlow, Vision America’s Rick Scarborough, Liberty Counsel’s Mat Staver are also among the speakers at the Prayer Rally for America’s Future at the River Church. The rally will touch on the familiar themes of opposing abortion rights and gay rights…and also to pray for revival in “male leadership.”

22 Mattand  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:37:35am

re: #14 erik_t

The actual statement. Any misrepresentation was accidental and due to my own feeble memory.

No, you pretty much nailed it.

The only decent human response would be "Do not vote for this man. His views on rape are repugnant, even by current Republican standards. Plus, his medieval understanding of women's biology should have him stricken from any science committee he sits on."

23 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:38:30am

That didn't take long:

24 darthstar  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:38:52am

Third GOP candidate to win a primary and drop out of the general: Todd Akin

25 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:38:56am

re: #18 nines09

But will he go live in a cave far, far away and never be heard from again?

Probably hang out with Clayton Williams and do... who knows what. Write poetry and paint portraits of each other, maybe.

26 Randall Gross  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:40:13am

All softball interview from his main supporter, Huckabee. He wouldn't have the nomination without Huckabee stumping for him.

27 erik_t  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:40:23am

re: #23 Learned Mother of Zion

That didn't take long:

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Using the word 'chain' to describe loss of financial freedom is exactly like saying any woman who claims to be pregnant from rape actually enjoyed it.

Again, what in the actual fuck.

28 Kragar  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:40:42am

re: #23 Learned Mother of Zion

29 nines09  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:40:54am

re: #25 What Would Spalding Gray Do?

Wear tinfoil hats and wait for the Mayan Mothership.

30 jaunte  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:41:09am

re: #23 Learned Mother of Zion

Shapiro doesn't know Akin hasn't stepped down?

31 darthstar  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:41:14am

re: #23 Learned Mother of Zion

That didn't take long:

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Ben Shapiro says something stupid, nobody cares.

32 darthstar  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:41:39am

re: #30 jaunte

Shapiro doesn't know Akin hasn't stepped down?

He's not flip-flopping on stepping down is he?

33 celticdragon  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:41:49am

re: #23 Learned Mother of Zion

Has Akin stepped down??

34 Mattand  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:41:51am

re: #23 Learned Mother of Zion

That didn't take long:

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On the one hand, a shaky analogy to slavery. On the other, a redefinition of rape that forces women to bear their attacker's children.

Yeah, totally the same.

35 darthstar  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:42:49am

re: #33 celticdragon

Has Akin stepped down??

No, now that he's legitimately and forcibly inserted himself onto the national stage, he's refusing to pull out.

36 darthstar  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:43:41am
37 celticdragon  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:44:07am

re: #34 Mattand

On the one hand, a shaky analogy to slavery. On the other, a redefinition of rape that forces women to bear their attacker's children.

Yeah, totally the same.

Just tweeted your comment back at hackmeister Shapiro.

38 wrenchwench  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:44:43am

When he says "people who become pregnant", I get the feeling he doesn't want to acknowledge that abortion is a WOMEN's issue.

39 Kragar  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:45:07am

Valid comparisons are liberal commie agitprop.

40 The Questionable Timing of a Flea  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:45:19am

Has Akin made any attempt to walk back his era-of-Paracelsus claim about rape victims not being able to get pregnant?

Because switching from "legitimate" to "forcible" changes nothing. He's pushing the same paradigm, just now more perfectly in line with the agreed-upon euphemisms and talking points. The concept of "forcible rape" as presents by Akin, Ryan, and their cronies earlier in the year enfolds the idea of "legitimate rape versus not-really-rape" into it; it just uses vaguer words.

I mean, fuck Akin, but also fuck anyone who's pretending like he's conceding anything.

41 Mattand  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:46:01am

re: #37 celticdragon

Just tweeted your comment back at hackmeister Shapiro.

Appreciate it. I just tried to edit for Twitter length, but couldn't make it work.

Will go check Ben's feed now. If his writing is as bad as his analogies, it should make for some entertaining lulz.

42 jaunte  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:46:14am

One conservative's take:

The “legitimate rape” comment is being used against all GOP candidates and has breathed new life into the “War on Women” meme.[Link: www.allamericanblogger.com...]

I don't think it's a 'meme' so much as a worldview.

43 GunstarGreen  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:47:06am

Full-grown adults, trying to word-parse rape.

What the actual fuck.

This is why I will never vote Republican, even if I may at times agree with some of their fiscal ideas. People are more important than money, and anyone that would quibble over which kinds of rape warrant federal spending in the name of saving a few bucks -- or even worse, in the name of a religion -- is not a person I can vote for.

44 celticdragon  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:47:07am

re: #35 darthstar

No, now that he's legitimately and forcibly inserted himself onto the national stage, he's refusing to pull out.

If I am going to get shagged by that crusty old SOB, I want triple my usual donation and all of that up front, thank you very much. :/

45 The Questionable Timing of a Flea  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:47:14am

re: #39 Kragar

Valid comparisons are liberal commie agitprop.

...and are also exactly the same as the Holocaust.

46 palomino  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:47:57am

re: #15 Gus

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Akin's dropping out--GOOD. Why the hell was he running in the first place, seeing as he opposes the 17th Amendment (along with goper senate candidates in IN and MI)? If the electorate shouldn't be choosing our US senators, then why appeal to the electorate for that office?

And the other guys running on this would seem to be giving ammo to their dem opponents. Because here there's no argument that this particular gop position is to disenfranchise everyone, in senate elections at least. "I'm voting for the guy who wants me to never have the right to vote for him again."

A little fucked up, maybe?

47 Gus  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:48:07am
48 celticdragon  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:48:08am

re: #45 The Ghost of a Flea

...and are also exactly the same as the Holocaust.

And 9/11, dontchaknow.

49 Gus  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:48:28am
50 celticdragon  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:48:31am

re: #47 Gus

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

51 palomino  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:48:59am

re: #23 Learned Mother of Zion

That didn't take long:

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So then why are Larry Craig and David Vitter still in office, while Anthony Weiner stepped down?

52 erik_t  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:50:07am

re: #51 palomino

So then why are Larry Craig and David Vitter still in office, while Anthony Weiner stepped down?

Because shut up, that's why.

(also Larry Craig did not run for re-election after his wide stance incident)

53 celticdragon  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:50:49am

re: #49 Gus

I thought those Biblical literalists didn't believe in coitus interruptus...

54 palomino  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:51:06am

re: #52 erik_t

Because shut up, that's why.

(also Larry Craig did not run for re-election after his wide stance incident)

shouldn't craig have immediately resigned, a la Weiner, et al?

55 Eventual Carrion  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:51:32am

re: #52 erik_t

Because shut up, that's why.

(also Larry Craig did not run for re-election after his wide stance incident)

Larry needed to have the leisure time to "instruct" the pool boy.

56 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:52:10am

I really like nines09's comment from the Pages Post:

I suggest he be "non violently raped" for about a week and come back and tell us how it felt and what he feels like after it. I think he needs to be sucker punched in the teeth.

57 The Questionable Timing of a Flea  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:52:27am

re: #51 palomino

So then why are Larry Craig and David Vitter still in office, while Anthony Weiner stepped down?

IOKIYAR.

I don't think I've invoked that before.

58 dragonath  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:52:53am

re: #10 erik_t

But seriously holy shit this man is a fucking turn-the-knob-to-eleven nutter.

In April, Akin cited a law Democrats passed in 2010 that saves billions of dollars by preventing private banks from profiting, risk free, on federally backed student loans as an example of the notion that “America has got the equivalent of stage three cancer of socialism, because the federal government is tampering in all kind of stuff it has no business tampering in.” When offered the chance to clarify, he declined, saying “I called a spade a spade.”

Hey, that's the same thing Cantor said a few months ago!

59 Gus  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:53:24am

Akin withdrawing is just rumors or predictions. Nothing official has come out.

60 Charles Johnson  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:54:30am

They're pushing Akin to drop out because they need to take the heat off this issue, but if he bails it will not change a thing. Akin stated the mainstream GOP position on rape and abortion -- he's not the problem, just an especially obvious symptom.

61 Gus  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:54:31am

Paranoia...

62 darthstar  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:55:57am

re: #59 Gus

Akin withdrawing is just rumors or predictions. Nothing official has come out.

More sources coming forward to say he'll drop out tomorrow. That gives this story at least another two days in front of Romney/Ryan...then we get to follow Ryan's praising of Akin until his stigma wears off...which should take another week.

63 erik_t  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:56:03am

re: #54 palomino

shouldn't craig have immediately resigned, a la Weiner, et al?

I don't think personal sexual incidents have any bearing on one's fitness to hold office, and I don't think soliciting sex in a bathroom is any worse than any number of crimes that have been committed by office-holders who stay in office, but that would indeed be the non-hypocritical thing to do for a member of a crazy loon party like the GOP.

64 GunstarGreen  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:56:28am

re: #61 Gus

Paranoia...

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He should withdraw. But even if it did it would not change a thing. The GOP and its sycophants aren't holding him accountable for having the view (which most of them share), they're holding him accountable for voicing it in a nationally-visible setting.

65 Kragar  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:58:33am
66 darthstar  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:58:36am

Apparently, Ashcroft is priming himself to let his eagle legitimately soar into Akin's spot on the ticket. We all remember him...he lost an election to a dead guy.

67 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:58:55am

re: #27 erik_t

Using the word 'chain' to describe loss of financial freedom is exactly like saying any woman who claims to be pregnant from rape actually enjoyed it.

Again, what in the actual fuck.

Bio teacher in college explained it. A violent rape can cause an violent orgasm as a biological response. This violent orgasm can cause an ovary to pop an ovum pre-maturely. Thus pregnancy can happen.

This is how conquering soldiers breed-out the weak they conquered --twisted evolutionary reality.

So, this orgasm DOESN'T MEAN the woman enjoyed it.

68 Kragar  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:59:26am

re: #61 Gus

Who is whispering?

DROP OUT!

69 Lidane  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 11:59:36am

Dear GOP Fuckwits --

ALL rape is forcible rape. That's pretty much the point.

Also, go fuck yourselves. Legitimately and forcibly.

No love,
Me

70 Sionainn  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 12:00:47pm

re: #23 Learned Mother of Zion

That didn't take long:

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Shows they have trouble with the definition of "terrible"...along with practically every other word in the dictionary.

71 Gus  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 12:00:52pm

Whoa! Speaking of rape.

What a dirt bag.

72 KronoGhazi  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 12:01:04pm

What's un-forceable rape?

73 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 12:02:17pm

re: #71 Gus

Whoa! Speaking of rape.

[Embedded content]

What a dirt bag.

What a pair of dirt bags.

74 calochortus  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 12:02:22pm

re: #38 wrenchwench

When he says "people who become pregnant", I get the feeling he doesn't want to acknowledge that abortion is a WOMEN's issue.

At least he acknowledges that women are people...

75 Lidane  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 12:02:37pm

re: #72 Kronocide

What's un-forceable rape?

The rare kind of rape that results in a pregnancy, of course.

If that slut had truly been unwilling, she would have been traumatized and stressed out enough to avoid getting knocked up.

/2012 GOP

76 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 12:02:52pm

re: #65 Kragar

IMDB: Ender's Game (2013) with Harrison Ford and Ben Kingsley

Why did it take them so long to put this one on film?

I got pretty tired of the series, but the first couple of books were good.

77 GunstarGreen  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 12:03:08pm

re: #72 Kronocide

What's un-forceable rape?

Basically ties in with right-wingers' fantasy of men being persecuted by "women crying rape after the fact". Date rape, statuatory rape, technically having 'consent' from someone that is obviously not in a position to give valid consent (drunk, mentally handicapped).

78 Big Joe Ghazi  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 12:03:29pm

re: #72 Kronocide

What's un-forceable rape?

It's kinda like an unforced error in baseball, I think.

79 wrenchwench  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 12:03:30pm

re: #72 Kronocide

What's un-forceable rape?

A myth accepted by rwnjs who want to criminalize all abortions without looking like the misogynist dirtbags they are.

80 Kragar  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 12:03:39pm

re: #76 ggt

First book was great, the rest...eh.

81 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 12:04:00pm

re: #80 Kragar

First book was great, the rest...eh.

I liked Speaker for the Dead.

82 Gus  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 12:04:01pm

re: #73 Learned Mother of Zion

What a pair of dirt bags.

Niagara Falls! Truly. They're both scum buckets.

83 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 12:04:31pm

re: #77 GunstarGreen

Basically ties in with right-wingers' fantasy of men being persecuted by "women crying rape after the fact". Date rape, statuatory rape, technically having 'consent' from someone that is obviously not in a position to give valid consent (drunk, mentally handicapped).

Because it's every women's fantasy to have a drunk old man cajole her into jacking him off.

84 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 12:05:18pm
85 calochortus  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 12:05:19pm

I see the national GOP won't be devoting any funds to Akin's campaign.

86 Kragar  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 12:05:31pm

Todd Akin: ‘I’ve Not Yet Begun To Fight’

Rep. Todd Akin (R-MO) apologized profusely, said he understood how pregnancy works and invoked Sept. 11 in his first interview since he unleashed a firestorm with a Sunday statement that women who are victims of “legitimate rape” can biologically fend off pregnancy.

He also vowed to stay in the Missouri Senate race, despite calls from more than one Republican senator for him to drop his bid.

“The good people of Missouri nominated me. And I’m not a quitter. And my belief is we’re going to take this thing forward,” Akin told Mike Huckabee on his talk radio show Monday. “To quote my old friend John Paul Jones, ‘I’ve not yet begun to fight.’”

Reports: Akin Advisers Make Preparations For Withdrawal Tomorrow

87 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 12:05:54pm
Republican Rep. Todd Akin of Missouri said he plans to stay in the race for Senate despite widespread condemnation from fellow Republicans over his comments about rape.

"I'm not a quitter," Mr. Akin said on Mike Huckabee's radio show, even as he apologized for his comments. "My belief is we're going to move this thing forward. To quote my friend John Paul Jones, 'I've not yet begun to fight.' "

Theres a reason were seeing a big GOP push to create the narrative that he'll step down, according to the rules tomorrow is the last day they can field a replacement candidate.

88 Lidane  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 12:06:36pm

re: #77 GunstarGreen

Basically ties in with right-wingers' fantasy of men being persecuted by "women crying rape after the fact". Date rape, statuatory rape, technically having 'consent' from someone that is obviously not in a position to give valid consent (drunk, mentally handicapped).

Exactly.

These misogynist assholes want to redefine rape to have it only be the stereotype of a stranger in a dark alley accosting and brutalizing a woman. If you get rid of things like date rape, marital rape, statutory rape, etc. then those mean women won't be able to accuse innocent men of rape when all they were doing is just getting what's theirs.

89 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 12:06:37pm

re: #86 Kragar

“To quote my old friend John Paul Jones, ‘I’ve not yet begun to fight.’”

Wow, he really is from the 18th century! Vampire?

90 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 12:06:53pm

re: #84 Learned Mother of Zion

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She was a sweet lady really. Really tough and brave.

91 The Questionable Timing of a Flea  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 12:07:04pm

re: #72 Kronocide

What's un-forceable rape?

The kind that's the fault of the victim--wrong clothes, wrong place, wrong sexual history. No reason to ruin a man's reputation over such things.

92 erik_t  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 12:08:07pm

re: #86 Kragar

“The good people of Missouri nominated me. And I’m not a quitter. And my belief is we’re going to take this thing forward,” Akin told Mike Huckabee on his talk radio show Monday. “To quote my old friend John Paul Jones, ‘I’ve not yet begun to fight.’”

'Old friend' John Paul Jones (who, oddly, was probably dead for a hundred and fifty years before Akin hatched out of some slimy egg) was a great man, a defender of free people. He would have thrown Akin off of the nearest poop deck.

93 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 12:08:15pm

There is a post going around fb. A young women holding a sign at what is probably a SlutWalk rally. It says

"Rape was round long before mini skirts"

94 The Questionable Timing of a Flea  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 12:09:19pm

re: #89 Learned Mother of Zion

Wow, he really is from the 18th century! Vampire?

15th century, judging by his grasp of obstetrics.

And he does suck.

95 Mattand  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 12:10:55pm

re: #86 Kragar

Todd Akin: ‘I’ve Not Yet Begun To Fight’

Oh, for fuck's sake, Akin is invoking 9/11 while trying to explain his vile rape comments?

Seriously, conservatives; what is wrong with you people, or your candidates, at any rate?

96 Eventual Carrion  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 12:11:26pm

re: #84 Learned Mother of Zion

RIP. Funny, talented actor/comedian.

97 The Questionable Timing of a Flea  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 12:12:41pm

re: #95 Mattand

Oh, for fuck's sake, Akin is invoking 9/11 while trying to explain his vile rape comments?

Seriously, conservatives; what is wrong with you people, or your candidates, at any rate?

Narcissism is a hell of drug.

98 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 12:14:32pm

re: #95 Mattand

Oh, for fuck's sake, Akin is invoking 9/11 while trying to explain his vile rape comments?

Seriously, conservatives; what is wrong with you people, or your candidates, at any rate?

Because the real threat to women is Muslims. So, we obviously need to spend more government money on the military AND start spending it to shove Christianity down people's throats.

/gah

99 makeitstopghazi  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 12:22:42pm

re: #74 calochortus

At least he acknowledges that women are people...

Grudgingly.

100 darthstar  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 12:58:32pm

re: #84 Learned Mother of Zion

Damn...I loved Phyllis when I was a kid.

101 celticdragon  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:06:08pm

re: #76 ggt

Why did it take them so long to put this one on film?

I got pretty tired of the series, but the first couple of books were good.

I like the story, but The author is a total wingnut hack right here where I live in Greensboro. Orson Scott Card is on the board of NOM with Maggie Gallagher. Go figure.

102 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Aug 20, 2012 3:56:20pm

re: #67 ggt

Bio teacher in college explained it. A violent rape can cause an violent orgasm as a biological response. This violent orgasm can cause an ovary to pop an ovum pre-maturely. Thus pregnancy can happen.

This is how conquering soldiers breed-out the weak they conquered --twisted evolutionary reality.

So, this orgasm DOESN'T MEAN the woman enjoyed it.

I've been told that extreme physical trauma, sexual or not, increases the chance of a woman ovulating out of cycle. Which tends to suggest it's not actually a useful evolutionary trait, since being mauled by a sabertooth and then getting pregnant is probably a poor combination of events in survival terms. Basically the body goes WTFOMGBBQ and does every random hormonal thing it can think of.

103 Buck  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 11:16:57am

re: #72 Kronocide

What's un-forceable rape?

Some people (not me) think that it might include statutory rape where no actual physical force was used and the victim might have thought they were consenting.


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A Closer Look at the Eastman State Bar DecisionTaking a few minutes away from work things to read through the Eastman decision. As I'm sure many of you know, Eastman was my law school con law professor. I knew him pretty well because I was also running in ...
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