Dana Loesch was one of the first to get out there and defend Rep. Todd Akin (R-12th Century), and today on her radio show she ranted at the Republican Party for not following her lead and supporting the beleaguered caveman from Missouri.
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darthstar Mon, Aug 20, 2012 1:10:53pm |
At some point in the not too distant future, probably not until after the elections though, we're going to have to write "former CNN contributor Dana Loesch"...but first, they need to compete with Fox for lunatic news organization of the year.
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Kragar Mon, Aug 20, 2012 1:10:54pm |
Doesn't weapons grade stupidity of this level violate international treaties?
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erik_t Mon, Aug 20, 2012 1:12:41pm |
Might want to go take a breather, Dana. You're sounding a little unhinged.
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S'latch Mon, Aug 20, 2012 1:14:39pm |
It is incredible to me that anyone would support Todd Akin. Why? Just why? It is so patently wrong.
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dragonath Mon, Aug 20, 2012 1:16:25pm |
The deliciously ironic thing about Citizens United is that the Republican leadership has even less control over their candidates. So the RNC is going to withhold $5 million? Paging Mr. Adelson...
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Lidane Mon, Aug 20, 2012 1:16:41pm |
re: #5 S'latch
It is incredible to me that anyone would support Todd Akin. Why? Just why? It is so patently wrong.
GOP Uber Alles. That's why.
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Kragar Mon, Aug 20, 2012 1:17:03pm |
"The most conservative candidate will always win." - Rush Limbaugh
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The Ghost of a Flea Mon, Aug 20, 2012 1:17:13pm |
re: #5 S'latch
It is incredible to me that anyone would support Todd Akin. Why? Just why? It is so patently wrong.
Because ideological purity requires ouroborous-like resolution to crap in one's own mouth and then chew and swallow.
Akin is just the latest turd sandwich.
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HappyWarrior Mon, Aug 20, 2012 1:19:08pm |
re: #9 Kragar
"The most conservative candidate will always win." - Rush Limbaugh
Haha drug addict says whst.
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Kragar Mon, Aug 20, 2012 1:19:32pm |
Bryan Fischer: Todd Akin is 'Absolutely Right'
Fischer today said that the trauma of a “real, genuine rape, a case of forcible rape,” would “make it impossible for her or difficult in that particular circumstance to conceive a child.” Of course, rape does not make pregnancy either impossible or unlikely, and there are other types of rape than “forcible rape,” such as statutory rape or cases where consent isn’t offered or is impossible.
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darthstar Mon, Aug 20, 2012 1:20:43pm |
This alone would be worth the trip to Egypt. (something to put on your 'If I win the lottery and can go anywhere anytime I want' list)
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Kragar Mon, Aug 20, 2012 1:21:10pm |
FRC: Attacks on Todd Akin 'Gotcha Politics'
"This is another case of 'gotcha politics' against a conservative leader. Todd Akin has a long and distinguished record of defending women, children and families. He has fought against forcing taxpayers to subsidize abortion giant Planned Parenthood, which is the bedrock of Claire McCaskill's base of support. When speaking about the issue of rape, let's not forget the cover-up of statutory rape by Planned Parenthood, which to my knowledge has not been addressed by Senator McCaskill.
"Throughout his twelve years in Congress, Todd Akin has supported legislation that honors all human life. He has opposed the commodification of women in contrast to his opponent, Claire McCaskill, who has a long record of promoting the abortion industry while ignoring how abortion harms women. We know Todd Akin, and FRC Action PAC enthusiastically endorses his candidacy," Mackey concluded.
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Reverend Mother Ramallo Mon, Aug 20, 2012 1:21:32pm |
Way to miss the point, Dana.
Win the seat, lose you soul.
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Gus Mon, Aug 20, 2012 1:21:46pm |
OT... Here it is!
Mitt Romney calls for Fed audit as GOP mulls platform plank | bloom.bg/PrRNAg— Bloomberg News (@BloombergNews) August 20, 2012
AUDIT TEH FED!!11ty
Nor Luap!
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S'latch Mon, Aug 20, 2012 1:22:28pm |
Well, actually, if she were supporting Todd Akin, she would say his comments were "ill-conceived, and . . . wrong" as Akin himself said. But, is she doing that, or is she doubling down? It is the doubling down that is even worse than "supporting" him. It's insane.
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Sheila Broflovski Mon, Aug 20, 2012 1:22:34pm |
I just got this wonderful email:
I'm not Jewish what y'all should be preparing for is the 2nd coming of Christ. The 1st time he came y'all killed Him. So repent & get ready for the 2nd coming!
From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network.
Apparently this was sent not just to me, but spammed to an entire listserv that hasn't been active for years.
Fucking idiots.
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Sionainn Mon, Aug 20, 2012 1:23:08pm |
re: #18 Learned Mother of Zion
I just got this wonderful email:
Apparently this was sent not just to me, but spammed to an entire listserv that hasn't been active for years.
Fucking idiots.
Lovely.
/
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darthstar Mon, Aug 20, 2012 1:23:29pm |
@bloombergnews Romney shouldn't use the word 'audit' so candidly.— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) August 20, 2012
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Ming Mon, Aug 20, 2012 1:23:34pm |
re: #5 S'latch
It is incredible to me that anyone would support Todd Akin. Why? Just why? It is so patently wrong.
Yes, you're correct, it makes no sense for anyone, Republican or Democrat, to support Todd Akin.
So why does this hyper-partisanship continue? I believe that a major reason is the demonization of President Obama. The point is that when you think your political opponent really is an evil person who hates America and wants to harm your loved ones, etc. etc., you'll support Todd Akin, crazy as Akin is, simply because of how evil the enemy is.
This reminds me of the lengths people went to support our side in the Cold War, because the Soviet Union was so evil. Now I happen to agree with President Reagan that the USSR was, indeed, as he put it, the focus of evil in the modern world. So I'm not trying to make an analogy to the current demonization of President Obama, who is a thoroughly decent person. But the point is that the USSR was ***so*** bad, that a reasonable person might do just about anything to fight the USSR. Even go along with a nutcase like Todd Akin.
This is why Fox News, and other right-wing outlets, will go into overdrive as the election approaches, to demonize the President at every opportunity. Without this portrayal of Obama as Evil Incarnate, many on the right-wing, such as Todd Akin, will look just plain silly.
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Lidane Mon, Aug 20, 2012 1:23:56pm |
re: #14 Kragar
Dear Idiots,
Calling a US Senate candidate out for his ignorant, misogynist, medically inaccurate and downright dangerous statements is not "gotcha politics". It's common goddamn sense.
Akin is wrong. Pointing out that he's wrong and shaming him for his stupidity is the right thing to do. Deal. With. It.
No love,
Me
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Kragar Mon, Aug 20, 2012 1:23:58pm |
re: #16 Gus
OT... Here it is!
[Embedded content]
Nor Luap!
Audit the Fed? Whats an audit the Fed?
Its when you go and do what that guy Ron Paul said.
The Inquisition, lets begin...
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darthstar Mon, Aug 20, 2012 1:24:28pm |
re: #16 Gus
OT... Here it is!
[Embedded content]
Nor Luap!
Well, he does have to compensate for mildly rebuking a teabagger for being an asshole.
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Kragar Mon, Aug 20, 2012 1:25:49pm |
In a compromise, Romney says he'll only audit the Feds records for the last 2 years...
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Mattand Mon, Aug 20, 2012 1:26:12pm |
What's amazing about the whole Akin debate is most Republicans, at best, will shrug their shoulders and go, "Well, Akin doesn't represent me." At best.
You would think that when your party has this kind of unrepentant embrace of religious-fueled ignorance at its core, more conservatives and Republicans would stand up for what's right. Right in this case is denouncing this man and calling for your fellow Republicans to really rethink where this line of thinking is taking them.
I know I've been riding this theme hard all afternoon. I just don't understand how you can consider yourself a conservative/Republican as well as a human being, and not be sickened by Akin and the people defending him.
I mean, look at some of the conservatives who post here. To the best of my knowledge, we've got one "don't vote for him until he recants." That's it.
I just don't get how people can compartmentalize this stuff.
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The Ghost of a Flea Mon, Aug 20, 2012 1:28:19pm |
re: #18 Learned Mother of Zion
I just got this wonderful email:
Apparently this was sent not just to me, but spammed to an entire listserv that hasn't been active for years.
Fucking idiots.
Shit.
I'm sorry that happened.
I'm sorry that mindset exists such that it was ever possible that it could happen.
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erik_t Mon, Aug 20, 2012 1:29:58pm |
re: #17 S'latch
Well, actually, if she were supporting Todd Akin, she would say his comments were "ill-conceived, and . . . wrong" as Akin himself said. But, is she doing that, or is she doubling down? It is the doubling down that is even worse than "supporting" him. It's insane.
It's an implicit admission that his nonpology was as big a fake as Paul Ryan's wonkiness.
Open secrets, how do they work?
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wrenchwench Mon, Aug 20, 2012 1:31:15pm |
re: #17 S'latch
Well, actually, if she were supporting Todd Akin, she would say his comments were "ill-conceived, and . . . wrong" as Akin himself said. But, is she doing that, or is she doubling down? It is the doubling down that is even worse than "supporting" him. It's insane.
She's "supporting" him by taking a shift with the shovel.
Dig, Dana, dig!
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Destro Mon, Aug 20, 2012 1:32:43pm |
Does Dana Loesch really mean this from an ideological POV or is she just a hired gun paid ($ sources unknown) to defend individual GOPers when they get in trouble by attacking the attackers?
She can't really mean this and she does not seem to be some southern Evangelical bible thumping type so is she like pretending and just doing guerilla flaking?
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Randall Gross Mon, Aug 20, 2012 1:34:03pm |
re: #30 Destro
Does Dana Loesch really mean this from an ideological POV or is she just a hired gun paid ($ sources unknown) to defend individual GOPers when they get in trouble by attacking the attackers?
She can't really mean this and she does not seem to be some southern Evangelical bible thumping type so is she like pretending and just doing guerilla flaking?
If they mau mau the press enough it takes heat/spotlight off of Todd?
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Destro Mon, Aug 20, 2012 1:34:39pm |
re: #8 Lidane
GOP Uber Alles. That's why.
Yea, I am seeing this as defending a GOPer no matter what. She can't honestly be this kind of evangelical religious based right winger.
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Reverend Mother Ramallo Mon, Aug 20, 2012 1:35:43pm |
re: #26 Mattand
The only thing they care about is winning and regaining power.
These are the guys who hate having a woman or a minority as a boss.
Don't get me started on being a woman and a minority and being a boss...
Anyhoo, they want to go back to this idealized version of the past, and if they have to re(right) history, they'll do it.
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erik_t Mon, Aug 20, 2012 1:37:27pm |
re: #33 OhNoZombies!
Anyhoo, they want to go back to this idealized version of the past, and if they have to re(right) history, they'll do it.
I know this is a typo, but I like it. The GOP wants to right, and re-right, all sorts of shit, regardless of whether or not it's a particularly good idea.
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CuriousLurker Mon, Aug 20, 2012 1:37:46pm |
re: #18 Learned Mother of Zion
I just got this wonderful email:
Apparently this was sent not just to me, but spammed to an entire listserv that hasn't been active for years.
Fucking idiots.
It never ends. It changes shape and changes targets, but it never ends.
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Kragar Mon, Aug 20, 2012 1:38:04pm |
re: #32 Destro
Yea, I am seeing this as defending a GOPer no matter what. She can't honestly be this kind of evangelical religious based right winger.
"HOW DARE YOU LEVEL ACCUSATIONS AGAINST A PARTY MEMBER IN GOOD STANDING?"
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GunstarGreen Mon, Aug 20, 2012 1:38:10pm |
re: #26 Mattand
What's amazing about the whole Akin debate is most Republicans, at best, will shrug their shoulders and go, "Well, Akin doesn't represent me." At best.
You would think that when your party has this kind of unrepentant embrace of religious-fueled ignorance at its core, more conservatives and Republicans would stand up for what's right. Right in this case is denouncing this man and calling for your fellow Republicans to really rethink where this line of thinking is taking them.
I know I've been riding this theme hard all afternoon. I just don't understand how you can consider yourself a conservative/Republican as well as a human being, and not be sickened by Akins and the people defending him.
I mean, look at some of the conservatives who post here. To the best of my knowledge, we've got one "don't vote for him until he recants." That's it.
I just don't get how people can compartmentalize this stuff.
Defeating the enemy is all that matters. I must make sure my team wins, no matter the cost. Nothing my team does is bad, nothing the enemy does is good.
To them, Democrats being wrong, or at the very least, Republicans not being wrong, is more important than truth or facts. Victory is more important than decency.
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Gus Mon, Aug 20, 2012 1:39:08pm |
Rape is rape Mr. Akin.— Cindy McCain (@CindyhM1) August 20, 2012
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Daniel Ballard Mon, Aug 20, 2012 1:40:45pm |
re: #12 Kragar
Stand up for fictional biology that takes rights away!~ ?
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Destro Mon, Aug 20, 2012 1:42:07pm |
re: #31 Randall Gross
If they mau mau the press enough it takes heat/spotlight off of Todd?
Yea, something like that? Or maybe it is designed to keep the base fired up?
It makes no sense otherwise. I mean she could be like a Evangelical type so that could explain it.
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Gus Mon, Aug 20, 2012 1:42:23pm |
He might be staying in but he's still going down.
National Republican infrastructure abandons Todd Akin: tpm.ly/SfUpDe— Talking Points Memo (@TPM) August 20, 2012
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Reverend Mother Ramallo Mon, Aug 20, 2012 1:42:35pm |
re: #34 erik_t
Not a typo! I wanted to use it just the way you said.
:)
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Destro Mon, Aug 20, 2012 1:43:15pm |
re: #36 Kragar
"HOW DARE YOU LEVEL ACCUSATIONS AGAINST A PARTY MEMBER IN GOOD STANDING?"
It gets kind of scary in the GOP doesn't it?
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Randall Gross Mon, Aug 20, 2012 1:49:45pm |
re: #40 Destro
Yea, something like that? Or maybe it is designed to keep the base fired up?
It makes no sense otherwise. I mean she could be like a Evangelical type so that could explain it.
Yeah, I do have the sense that their base is getting disgustipated and disillusioned, keeping them plugged in from now til election is what they are focused on, and if they have to fight this hard this early it's a good sign overall.
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Randall Gross Mon, Aug 20, 2012 1:51:28pm |
re: #41 Gus
He might be staying in but he's still going down.
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It only takes one rich pac from the hard religious right to keep him in, and he'll probably get some backdoor help from a neighboring state if he stays in I wager.
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Reverend Mother Ramallo Mon, Aug 20, 2012 1:51:30pm |
re: #41 Gus
He should stay in, and keep digging that hole expressing his beliefs.
Dana is right. He shouldn't let those lefties bully him.
Freedom isn't free!
//
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erik_t Mon, Aug 20, 2012 1:51:36pm |
re: #41 Gus
He might be staying in but he's still going down.
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The longer he stays in, the better the Democrats do in every race everywhere.
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Lidane Mon, Aug 20, 2012 1:52:41pm |
re: #47 erik_t
The longer he stays in, the better the Democrats do in every race everywhere.
Which is why I want him to tell the national GOP that they're a bunch of squishy RINOs and that he's staying in.
The longer he stays in, the longer this story stays in the news, and the better Claire McCaskill does overall. Suits me just fine.
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allegro Mon, Aug 20, 2012 1:55:30pm |
re: #48 Lidane
Which is why I want him to tell the national GOP that they're a bunch of squishy RINOs and that he's staying in.
The longer he stays in, the longer this story stays in the news, and the better Claire McCaskill does overall. Suits me just fine.
His staying in pretty much fucks up the whole GOP abortion narrative as well. They either defend Akin or piss off the Talibangelicals.
Cool.
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Kragar Mon, Aug 20, 2012 1:57:15pm |
National Republican Infrastructure Abandons Todd Akin
Todd Akin stands alone. Minutes after Akin vowed to remain the Republican nominee in the Missouri Senate race, the full infrastructure of his party abandoned him.
John Cornyn (R-TX), chairman of the National Republican Senatorial Committee, called on Akin to “reconsider” staying in the race and then reportedly warned him that if he does stay in, he won’t have any financial help from the committee.
Around the same time, the super PAC founded by Karl Rove said it had abandoned the Senate race as well, leaving Akin without valuable air cover in his bid to unseat Sen. Claire McCaskill (D).
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allegro Mon, Aug 20, 2012 1:58:40pm |
re: #50 Kragar
I wish I could think that this was a sign of sanity at long last in the GOP. But I can't.
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Gus Mon, Aug 20, 2012 1:59:38pm |
re: #50 Kragar
Which I mentioned over an hour ago. So unless they come back to Akin he's in trouble unless he finds alternative backers.
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erik_t Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:00:08pm |
re: #47 erik_t
The longer he stays in, the better the Democrats do in every race everywhere.
I would prefer it not be this way. I would prefer that the media do its job and uncover and discredit this sort of insane hard-right belief (which honestly I had never heard of) without disgracing the dignity of the US Senate in the process.
But I guess this will do.
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Kragar Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:01:08pm |
Todd Akin: ‘I Made A Single Error In One Sentence’
"I made a single error in one sentence," he said. "Maybe the Democrats or certain people won't want to forget that or will want to use that as a political weapon, but I think that the people of Missouri are big enough to take a look at the whole package."
Because the Republicans never build an entire campaign where they talk about a single sentence their opponent made...
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erik_t Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:01:14pm |
re: #52 Gus
Which I mentioned over an hour ago. So unless they come back to Akin he's in trouble unless he finds alternative backers.
This is the Party of Romney. It's important to confirm hour-by-hour that their positions remain the same.
/;)
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Lidane Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:01:45pm |
re: #51 allegro
I wish I could think that this was a sign of sanity at long last in the GOP. But I can't.
It's not. They're just abandoning him because he had the nerve to say what they all really think out loud.
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Obdicut Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:02:38pm |
re: #51 allegro
I wish I could think that this was a sign of sanity at long last in the GOP. But I can't.
Paul Ryan, VP nominee, sponsored a personhood bill which would define life as beginning at conception, and therefore make abortion for rape or incest illegal.
All Akin did was say something that sounds really obviously stupid and blatant. In terms of actual policy, Akin is perfectly mainstream in the GOP party.
They're not rejecting his policies, just his stupid mouth. They want someone who knows how to hide these things to run instead.
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Gus Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:02:56pm |
The first ad from the Obama camp is going to be brutal. It's going to include the sound bite, images of Paul Ryan and Todd Akin together, perhaps some other things Romney himself has said about banning abortion.
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Kragar Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:03:42pm |
Hank Williams, Jr: Obama Is A Muslim Who Hates America
Country music singer and incendiary conservative Hank Williams, Jr. is once again saying controversial things about President Obama. Des Moines Register reporter Joe Lawler writes Williams told a crowd at the Iowa State Fair Friday that the president isn't a Christian and that he "hates" America.
"We’ve got a Muslim president who hates farming, hates the military, hates the US and we hate him!” Williams yelled to the crowd.
The line was met with "loud and enthusiastic" cheers, Lawler writes.
It must be fun to live in a fact-free world.
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dragonfire1981 Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:05:27pm |
re: #12 Kragar
Wait a minute: WHAT???
I thought this was all God's will and we aren't supposed to have any control over it?
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b_sharp Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:05:44pm |
re: #60 Kragar
Hank Williams, Jr: Obama Is A Muslim Who Hates America
It must be fun to live in a fact-free world.
This bit has been posted three or four times. How much of this are we capable of handling?
I say, just fuck'im.
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Obdicut Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:05:47pm |
re: #58 Gus
Romney said he would be delighted to sign a bill banning abortion in the US.
Mitt Romney's position is that that would be delightful. To have women who were raped, including by family members, bear the child.
Delighted.
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erik_t Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:06:16pm |
(A Newsweek spokesman confirmed to Politico, as Krugman suspected, that the magazine does not have a fact-checking department: "We, like other news organisations today, rely on our writers to submit factually accurate material.")
Thank goodness fuck-nobody reads Newsweek.
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Sionainn Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:06:31pm |
re: #60 Kragar
Hank Williams, Jr: Obama Is A Muslim Who Hates America
It must be fun to live in a fact-free world.
Was he dropped on his head as a baby?
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b_sharp Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:06:48pm |
re: #61 dragonfire1981
Wait a minute: WHAT???
I thought this was all God's will and we aren't supposed to have any control over it?
If it comes from the mouth of Bryan Fischer it can be ignored out of hand.
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wrenchwench Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:06:52pm |
re: #54 Kragar
Todd Akin: ‘I Made A Single Error In One Sentence’
Because the Republicans never build an entire campaign where they talk about a single sentence their opponent made...
He underestimates himself. There were at least two errors per sentence.
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blueraven Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:07:04pm |
GOP's problem: The type of person with poor enough judgment to say what Akin did has poor enough judgment to stay in the race.— Nate Silver (@fivethirtyeight) August 20, 2012
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dragonfire1981 Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:08:13pm |
re: #54 Kragar
Todd Akin: ‘I Made A Single Error In One Sentence’
Because the Republicans never build an entire campaign where they talk about a single sentence their opponent made...
YOU DIDN'T BUILD THAT!!! BLARGH!
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dragonfire1981 Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:10:47pm |
re: #50 Kragar
I believe this will be a rare occurrence but that right wingers will hold this up as a shining example: "See? We're not afraid to come down on someone when they go over the line."
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allegro Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:11:33pm |
re: #71 dragonfire1981
I believe this will be a rare occurrence but that right wingers will hold this up as a shining example: "See? We're not afraid to come down on someone when they go over the line."
They're nothing if not well trained.
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Eventual Carrion Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:11:50pm |
re: #3 Gus
Really, pick on her motherfucking husband instead.
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b_sharp Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:11:57pm |
re: #54 Kragar
Todd Akin: ‘I Made A Single Error In One Sentence’
Because the Republicans never build an entire campaign where they talk about a single sentence their opponent made...
He probably really believes there was only one error, he got caught with GOP Truth ™ on his lips.
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b_sharp Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:13:52pm |
re: #73 RayFerd
Really, pick on her motherfucking husband instead.
Had you included the context, this would have been immediately funny.
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Sionainn Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:16:01pm |
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Lidane Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:16:38pm |
If this becomes a pattern in the next few days I'll be amazed:
Rehberg Gives Akin Donation To Teen Pregnancy Center
Rep. Denny Rehberg, the Republican candidate for Senate in Montana, will donate $5,000 that he received from Todd Akin's PAC to a teen pregnancy center, Politico reports.
Rehberg got a $5,000 contribution earlier this cycle from Akin's Takin Back America PAC. That sum will now go to the Florence Crittenton Center in Helena, according to Rehberg's campaign.
The center "provides a wide variety of resources for pregnant and parenting teens and their children, as well as young families," the organization's 's website says.
Rehberg had already condemned Akin's statement Sunday night:
“As a pro-life conservative, a husband, and a father of two young women, I find Representative Akin’s remarks to be offensive and reprehensible. There is no such thing as a ‘legitimate rape.’ I condemn Representative Akin’s statements in the strongest possible terms.”
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Kragar Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:16:46pm |
Penn. To DOJ: Forget Voter ID, What About The New Black Panther Party?
While the state said it would provide a number of documents related to the voter ID law if the Justice Department signs a confidentiality agreement, General Counsel James Schultz said in a letter to the Justice Department that it would not provide information backing the state’s (unsupported) claim that 99 percent of residents had a valid form of photo identification.
“In light of the absence of authority for your request for information, I question whether your inquiry is truly motivated by a desire to assess compliance with federal voting rights laws, or rather is fueled by political motivation,” Schultz, who works for Gov. Tom Corbett (R), wrote in the letter.
Schultz took a shot at the Obama administration in the first paragraph of his letter, writing that he was “optimistic” when he saw the DOJ letter that it “marked the long overdue renewal of the Department of Justice’s previously abandoned review of the 2008 voter intimidation case in Philadelphia, a review that would be particularly well-timed in this presidential election year, as I trust Attorney General Holder and the Department of Justice share the Commonwealth’s commitment to ensuring that no violation of the voting rights of Pennsylvanians be tolerated.”
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Kragar Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:17:53pm |
re: #78 b_sharp
Even the dead ones on the highway?
They stage the murders to make it look like a human with a car killed them.
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erik_t Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:18:16pm |
re: #77 Lidane
If this becomes a pattern in the next few days I'll be amazed:
Ever notice how the Mountain West has both the most and least crazy GOPers? What is with that?
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Lidane Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:18:34pm |
The Magical Balance Fairy should start charging overtime to these assholes:
Connie Mack: Akin’s Comments Are Offensive — Just Like Joe Biden’s
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Gus Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:19:38pm |
Yes, @hardball_chris, @paulryanvp is still a sponsor of the 'forcible rape' bill. govtrack.us/congress/bills...— Jonathan Capehart (@CapehartJ) August 20, 2012
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Reverend Mother Ramallo Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:19:46pm |
They're abandoning him because there's no way to spin what he said, one sentence or two.
Too on the nose.
He said what he thinks and it's backed by his history.
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b_sharp Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:20:22pm |
re: #82 Lidane
The Magical Balance Fairy should start charging overtime to these assholes:
Connie Mack: Akin’s Comments Are Offensive — Just Like Joe Biden’s
Joe Biden was using a metaphor for economic dependence. What metaphor was Akin using again?
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dragonfire1981 Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:20:30pm |
Valedictorian denied diploma for curse worse in speech
An Oklahoma high school valedictorian who used the word "hell" in her graduation speech in May has yet to receive her diploma.
Kaitlin Nootbaar graduated from Prague High School with a 4.0 grade point average, her father, David Nootbaar, told KFOR-TV. But school administrators told him that Kaitlin would have to submit a written apology in order to get her diploma."We went to the office and asked for the diploma and the principal said, 'Your diploma is right here but you're not getting it. Close the door, we have a problem,'" David Nootbaar told the network.
"She worked so hard to stay at the top of her class," he said. "This is not right."
In her speech—inspired by a similar address in "Eclipse: The Twilight Saga"—Kaitlin recounted how annoying it is to be constantly asked what she wants to do as graduation approached. "How the hell do I know?" she said, according to her father. "I've changed my mind so many times."In the version she submitted to the school for approval, "hell" was "heck." But in the version she delivered at graduation, "hell" it was.
The school declined to comment. "This matter is confidential and we cannot publicly say anything about it," Prague schools Superintendent Rick Martin said in a statement to KFOR.
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Kragar Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:21:47pm |
Coyote-Wolf Hybrids Have Spread Across U.S. East
The coyote is "one of the animals that will be left at the end, like the cockroaches, raccoons, and rabbits," Bozarth said.
For the new study, Bozarth and colleagues collected coyote scat samples in northern Virginia and extracted DNA. The team then compared the coyote DNA with that of representatives of every canid species found in eastern North America. (Get a genetics overview.)
The study, published October 17 in the Journal of Mammalogy, found evidence that Virginia coyotes mated with Great Lakes wolves but not with the rare red wolf, which is hanging on in just a few isolated spots in the U.S. South.
That's "good news for the red wolf," whose survival is already threatened by inbreeding, which reduces the species' genetic diversity, Bozarth noted.
For now, it's impossible to say how "wolfy" the newly identified coyote-wolf hybrids really are, Bozarth added—just that "at some point down the line, a coyote mated with a Great Lakes wolf-even generations ago."
Scientists have not yet studied the behaviors of the Virginian hybrids to see if they're killing bigger wildlife or otherwise changing the ecosystem, Bozarth added.
But other East Coast hybrids seen alive or identified by their remains are noticeably larger, with more wolf-like skulls, jaws, and teeth, Bozarth noted.
Given this, coyote-wolf hybrids "should be able to do things like take down deer, which a little, scrappy Great Plains wily coyote would not be able to do on its own," Bozarth said.
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b_sharp Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:22:43pm |
re: #87 dragonfire1981
Look how crappy of an education these kids are getting, the valedictorian fer chrisakes can't even spell 'hell'.
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Kragar Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:23:43pm |
Hell is still a curse word? What kind of bullshit is that?
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makeitstop Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:23:56pm |
Hmm... Do I want to listen to Dana gabbling like a mental patient, or something I actually like, like the new Biffy Clyro single?
Decisions, decisions...
Nah. Mon The Biff!
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Reverend Mother Ramallo Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:24:39pm |
re: #69 b_sharp
He shouldn't have eaten all that road-kill. Same goes for Ted Nugent.
Rabies?
It makes you stupid and crazy.
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Gus Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:25:17pm |
re: #91 Kragar
Hell is still a curse word? What kind of bullshit is that?
Some people think darn is still a curse word.
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Sionainn Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:25:28pm |
re: #78 b_sharp
Even the dead ones on the highway?
The ones on our trapping lines (for kangaroo rats and other small rodents) are extremely smart. They are mucking everything up!
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Gus Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:26:25pm |
tame curse word, 1781, American English euphemism for damn, said to have originated in New England when swearing was a punishable offense; if so, its spread was probably influenced by 'tarnal, short for Eternal, as in By the Eternal (God), favorite exclamation of Andrew Jackson, among others. Related: darned (pp. adjective, 1806); darndest (superlative, 1844).
Darn it!
OUTRAGE!
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Sionainn Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:26:56pm |
re: #83 Gus
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What is especially delicious about Akin opening his mouth is that now Paul Ryan is tied to this wingnut and his repugnant forcible rape comments. hehehe
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Obdicut Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:26:58pm |
re: #88 Kragar
My brother John researches that.
[Link: watch.discoverychannel.ca...]
Changed to a video.
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Sionainn Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:28:58pm |
re: #91 Kragar
Hell is still a curse word? What kind of bullshit is that?
Son of a bitch! You mean I can't say "hell"?!?
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Gus Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:29:06pm |
re: #97 Sionainn
What is especially delicious about Akin opening his mouth is that now Paul Ryan is tied to this wingnut and his repugnant forcible rape comments. hehehe
Exactly. So we get to choose between "Paul Ryan the [redefine] forcible rape VP" or "Paul Ryan the personhood VP." The former has the biggest impact.
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Mattand Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:30:48pm |
re: #82 Lidane
The Magical Balance Fairy should start charging overtime to these assholes:
Connie Mack: Akin’s Comments Are Offensive — Just Like Joe Biden’s
I'm surprised she hasn't put in more of an appearance here. I've noticed some of her more vocal acolytes have been AWOL on the whole Akin debacle.
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Obdicut Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:30:57pm |
re: #98 Obdicut
Argh can't get the link to work. Trying again:
Wolf-Coyote hybridization as explained by my brother:
[Link: watch.discoverychannel.ca...]
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Amory Blaine Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:31:18pm |
Which republicans in her delusional world are placating democrats? We can't even get routine business done because of all the obstruction.
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wrenchwench Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:31:39pm |
re: #100 Gus
Exactly. So we get to choose between "Paul Ryan the [redefine] forcible rape VP" or "Paul Ryan the personhood VP." The former has the biggest impact.
Romney said they'd allow abortions for women who were raped in his White House.
Wait, I don't think I worded that right....
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Gus Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:32:37pm |
Republican Platform committee, after half hour debate, just applauded removal of amendment calling for "environmentally conscious" logging.— CAP Action: Congress (@CAPcongress) August 20, 2012
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nines09 Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:33:30pm |
re: #79 Kragar
Penn. To DOJ: Forget Voter ID, What About The New Black Panther Party?
Tom Corbett, on the job again. Wonder if he ever looked into that complaint on a pedophile in State College.....Hmmmmm.
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andres Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:33:37pm |
re: #77 Lidane
If this becomes a pattern in the next few days I'll be amazed:
A Republican with a spine? Quick! Tag him and bag him!
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b_sharp Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:33:41pm |
re: #95 Sionainn
The ones on our trapping lines (for kangaroo rats and other small rodents) are extremely smart. They are mucking everything up!
Canids aren't dumb.
We have way too many of them up here, so the Conservative government put a bounty on them. This after the more liberal government policies brought back much of the natural variation in populations.
We kill off all the coyotes, foxes, hawks and owls through poisoning gophers or just shooting them and then they complain about being overrun when the poison is banned.
Sometimes I think these people want only two kinds of animals to survive - humans and food.
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wrenchwench Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:34:08pm |
re: #105 Gus
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Does that mean no logging, or only environmentally unconscious logging?
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Gus Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:35:01pm |
Republican Platform Committee Embraces Tea Party Priorities
The Republican National Convention platform committee has reportedly embraced ten of twelve “Freedom Platform” proposals chosen by Tea Party activists and promoted by FreedomWorks, a leading D.C.-based conservative grassroots service center. The platform committee is currently meeting in Tampa to determine the 2012 Republican platform in advance of the August 27-30 Republican National Convention.
“We were shocked when the first draft came out and they’d included ten of our twelve policies,” Ohio Liberty Coalition president Tom Zawistowski told Media Trackers. Zawistowski and Gena Bell of the Hills Community Tea Party are two of twelve Freedom Platform commissioners petitioning for the inclusion of Tea Party priorities in the official Republican platform.
The Freedom Platform includes the following twelve items. Items not included in the current GOP platform draft are listed in italics:
Repeal Obamacare; Pursue Patient-Centered Care
Stop the Tax Hikes
Reverse Obama’s Spending Increases
Scrap the Code; Replace It with a Flat Tax
Pass a Balanced Budget Amendment
Reject Cap and Trade
Rein in the EPA
Unleash America’s Vast Energy Potential
Eliminate the Department of Education
Reduce the Bloated Federal Workforce
Curtail Excessive Federal Regulation
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b_sharp Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:37:12pm |
re: #102 Obdicut
Argh can't get the link to work. Trying again:
Wolf-Coyote hybridization as explained by my brother:
[Link: watch.discoverychannel.ca...]
Your brother is working in Canuckistan?
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Kragar Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:38:27pm |
re: #102 Obdicut
Argh can't get the link to work. Trying again:
Wolf-Coyote hybridization as explained by my brother:
[Link: watch.discoverychannel.ca...]
I wonder if the hybrid pup survival is due to their hybrid characteristics or environmental, having access to more food and possible shelter in human developed regions.
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Kragar Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:38:43pm |
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Obdicut Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:38:49pm |
re: #111 b_sharp
Yep. Finishing his PhD and then looking for a faculty or research job. It may be that, with all the cutting of science budgets here, he has to go outside the US to find a faculty job. Which is sad.
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Gus Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:38:53pm |
re: #112 Amory Blaine
Red meat for low information voters.
Some other stuff:
In breakthrough move, Republicans may agree to 'respect' folks in their national platform
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wrenchwench Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:39:26pm |
re: #110 Gus
The Republican National Convention platform committee has reportedly embraced ten of twelve “Freedom Platform” proposals chosen by Tea Party activists and promoted by FreedomWorks, a leading D.C.-based conservative
grassroots service centerDavid Koch propaganda machine.
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Kragar Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:39:29pm |
re: #116 Gus
Some other stuff:
In breakthrough move, Republicans may agree to 'respect' folks in their national platform
Well, they just lost the Bryan Fischer block of voters.
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andres Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:40:55pm |
re: #110 Gus
I know some people like a fair match, and fight left-handed, but this is ridiculous.
The shorter version of the Republican Platform is: "You win, Obama!"
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Lidane Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:41:09pm |
re: #116 Gus
Some other stuff:
In breakthrough move, Republicans may agree to 'respect' folks in their national platform
That won't last. Once the full RNC platform debate starts, any talk of human dignity or respect for LGBT people will be shown the door.
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Reverend Mother Ramallo Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:41:38pm |
From the article:
In 2006 an American hunter shot an animal in the far north of Canada’s Northwest Territories that shared characteristics of a polar bear and a grizzly. Earlier this year, a similar bear was killed less than 200 miles away, and DNA tests confirmed it was a mixture of the two species. The "grolar bear" thus joined a growing list of cross-species couplings -- beluga whales and narwhals, right whales and bowhead whales, various seal mixtures -- all confirmed to varying degrees by scientists in the Arctic over the past two decades.
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Amory Blaine Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:42:39pm |
Repeal Obamacare; Pursue Patient-Centered Care = You are on your own, patient.
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Obdicut Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:43:22pm |
re: #113 Kragar
John will talk your ear off about it, but he's very conservative in his theorizing. Simple hybrid vigor is also an explanation; most parasites and diseases will be endured more easily by a hybrid, because the parasites and diseases evolved to affect the root species, not the hybrids. Of course, once hybrids become common enough that will cease to be true.
It may be that hybrids are also better at doing both pack and solo stuff, and so can survive different circumstances better.
There's lots of other stuff too. I'll ask him if there's any good papers or anything for you when I get a chance.
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b_sharp Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:43:39pm |
re: #115 Obdicut
Yep. Finishing his PhD and then looking for a faculty or research job. It may be that, with all the cutting of science budgets here, he has to go outside the US to find a faculty job. Which is sad.
For decades we've had a bit of a brain drain here, where science majors head south for the jobs. It would be nice if that reversed a bit. I hope your brother finds a job up here. Selfish of me, isn't it?
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Gus Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:43:47pm |
We hereby agree that all men are created equal! So help me God.
But, you still can't get married; expect visitation rights and share most everything else granted to heterosexual couples.
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b_sharp Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:45:18pm |
re: #121 OhNoZombies!
From the article:
In 2006 an American hunter shot an animal in the far north of Canada’s Northwest Territories that shared characteristics of a polar bear and a grizzly. Earlier this year, a similar bear was killed less than 200 miles away, and DNA tests confirmed it was a mixture of the two species. The "grolar bear" thus joined a growing list of cross-species couplings -- beluga whales and narwhals, right whales and bowhead whales, various seal mixtures -- all confirmed to varying degrees by scientists in the Arctic over the past two decades.
Evolution in action. Too bad we're the ones changing their environment to such an extent.
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Kragar Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:46:09pm |
Christian Historian John Fea takes down David Barton
Throckmorton is not a historian. He is a fact-checker--and a pretty darn good one. Barton is not a historian--he is a political activist with a good grasp of historical facts that he uses for the sole purpose of promoting his political agenda. Throckmorton's status as a psychologist (or anything else for that matter) should have little to do with whether or not he is able to fact-check Barton's book.
Historians, as any reader of this blog will know, interpret the facts. They take the facts of the past and weave them into a compelling narrative. They situate those facts in context. They understand the complexity of human events (something that is difficult to do when you are driven by a political agenda and are just looking at one side of a particular issue). They show how events build off of each other. They chronicle change over time.
Fact-checkers are not historians and one does not have to be a historian to check facts.
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Gus Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:48:37pm |
Outrage!
RT @jmartpolitico: Romney on skinny-dipping in the Holy Land: "I think it's reprehensible" bit.ly/Oti53t cc @jakesherman— POLITICO 2012 (@POLITICO2012) August 20, 2012
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:49:26pm |
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erik_t Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:50:43pm |
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Kragar Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:51:07pm |
The Theological Roots of Akin’s “Legitimate Rape” Comment
Akin’s comments reveal a religious culture fundamentally opposed to women’s equality. On the rape exception question in particular, he’s not forging new ground, but rather echoing tropes long in circulation. As Garance Franke-Ruta details at The Atlantic, deploying the bogus claim that a woman cannot get pregnant as a result of rape has long been a tactic of anti-choice activists to remove rape exceptions to laws outlawing abortion. And as Mother Jones’ Nick Baumann reports, last year Akin “and most of the House GOP co-sponsored a bill that would have narrowed the already-narrow exceptions to the laws banning federal funding for abortion—from all cases of rape to cases of ‘forcible rape.’”
A 2001 PCA report on the prospect of women serving in combat positions in the military, titled “Man’s Duty to Protect Woman,” states, “woman is the weaker sex and part of her weakness is the vulnerability attendant to her greatest privilege—that God has made her the ‘Mother of all the living.’ Men are to guard and protect her as she carries in her womb, gives birth to, and nurses her children.”
Yes, that was written in 2001, not 1001.
In its lengthy position papers on abortion, the PCA has made clear that what it claims are biblical prohibitions on abortion should take precedence over any other law, because of its views on the separation of church and state:
The civil magistrate [a government official] is responsible to God. He is to discharge his duty according to God’s will. The Bible is the supreme revelation of God’s will. Because church and state are neither subordinate to the other but to God, the civil magistrate is under obligation to recognize the Bible as authoritative in the exercise of civil magistracy. The Lordship of Christ in all areas of life is fundamental.
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Gus Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:52:01pm |
re: #132 erik_t
THERE ARE DOZENS OF US
Even the slightest stimulation must be avoided at all costs.
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Kragar Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:52:17pm |
re: #128 Gus
Outrage!
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I heard someone once had sex in the Holy Land, the godless fornicators!
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darthstar Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:53:40pm |
Hate Group is such an ugly term...they prefer Brotherhood of Bigots
A Real #FoxNews news Item Today - "White supremacist leaders reject 'hate group' label" ow.ly/d6zAV @barackobama— Defeat GOP 2012 (@Defeat_GOP_2012) August 20, 2012
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erik_t Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:54:42pm |
re: #136 Kragar
I heard someone once had sex in the Holy Land, the godless fornicators!
Never mind approximately ten million shits per day.
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Gus Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:55:15pm |
re: #137 darthstar
Hate Group is such an ugly term...they prefer Brotherhood of Bigots
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Hahaha!
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Kragar Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:55:41pm |
re: #131 Gus
Mitt Romney probably wears swim trunks while taking a shower.
"Do these effectively hide my thunder?"
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Gus Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:56:08pm |
Paul Ryan to Headline Todd Akin Love Fest Next Month bit.ly/OtlO0W— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) August 20, 2012
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darthstar Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:59:23pm |
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Kragar Mon, Aug 20, 2012 3:02:58pm |
Mitt Romney On Akin: ‘We Can’t Defend Him’
Mitt Romney "stopped short" of calling on Todd Akin to resign from the Missouri Senate race in an interview with WMUR in New Hampshire that aired Monday.
"He should understand that his words with regards to rape are words that I can't defend, that we can't defend, and we can't defend him," Romney told WMUR.
"Now Paul Ryan understood the right words to use, so we'll keep defending his evil vile shit, but Akin is out of luck."
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Kragar Mon, Aug 20, 2012 3:04:23pm |
Remember that great joke when the GOP said they were all about the economy? Its still funny.
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The Mongoose Mon, Aug 20, 2012 3:04:25pm |
re: #26 Mattand
What's amazing about the whole Akin debate is most Republicans, at best, will shrug their shoulders and go, "Well, Akin doesn't represent me." At best.
You would think that when your party has this kind of unrepentant embrace of religious-fueled ignorance at its core, more conservatives and Republicans would stand up for what's right. Right in this case is denouncing this man and calling for your fellow Republicans to really rethink where this line of thinking is taking them.
I know I've been riding this theme hard all afternoon. I just don't understand how you can consider yourself a conservative/Republican as well as a human being, and not be sickened by Akin and the people defending him.
I mean, look at some of the conservatives who post here. To the best of my knowledge, we've got one "don't vote for him until he recants." That's it.
I just don't get how people can compartmentalize this stuff.
I'm a conservative. I think Akin should step down. Failing that I think the GOP should stop every dollar of funding until he does, a movement which has already started. There's a reason that the Democrats actually ran ads supporting Akin during his primary run: the man is an extremist and an idiot.
Rant complete.
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Lidane Mon, Aug 20, 2012 3:04:32pm |
re: #143 Kragar
Mitt Romney On Akin: ‘We Can’t Defend Him’
"Now Paul Ryan understood the right words to use, so we'll keep defending his evil vile shit, but Akin is out of luck."
Akin broke the first rule of Wingnut Club. He said what they really think out loud. Of course they can't defend him.
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William Barnett-Lewis Mon, Aug 20, 2012 3:05:05pm |
re: #102 Obdicut
Argh can't get the link to work. Trying again:
Wolf-Coyote hybridization as explained by my brother:
[Link: watch.discoverychannel.ca...]
Interesting video. I couldn't crawl in there, let me tell you!
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Amory Blaine Mon, Aug 20, 2012 3:05:13pm |
re: #144 Kragar
Remember that great joke when the GOP said they were all about the economy? Its still funny.
Focused like a laser on job creation.
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Tigger2005 Mon, Aug 20, 2012 3:08:18pm |
Cavemen were more enlightened than Rep. Todd Akin.
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garhighway Mon, Aug 20, 2012 3:09:59pm |
re: #145 The Mongoose
I'm a conservative. I think Akin should step down. Failing that I think the GOP should stop every dollar of funding until he does, a movement which has already started. There's a reason that the Democrats actually ran ads supporting Akin during his primary run: the man is an extremist and an idiot.
Rant complete.
I don't want Akin to quit the race. Anyone the GOP puts up in his stead will be a stronger candidate. I want the seat for the Dems, so I want Akin to stick it out.
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Lidane Mon, Aug 20, 2012 3:13:46pm |
Tea Party Express: Akin ‘Should Step Down’
The Tea Party Express, the nation's largest tea party super PAC, is urging Todd Akin to drop out of the Missouri Senate race, citing the 2010 losses of tea party candidates like Sharron Angle and Christine O'Donnell to make their case in a press release Monday.
“One of the lessons we learned in 2010 is that we need candidates who are not only conservative, but are capable of putting together a strong campaign against liberal opponents," Amy Kremer, the group's chairwoman, said in a statement. Kremer followed Connie Mack's lead in comparing Akin's comments to ones made by Vice President Joe Biden last week: "Akin’s frequent ‘Bidenisms’ are distracting from the important issues at hand."
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Charles Johnson Mon, Aug 20, 2012 3:14:47pm |
re: #150 garhighway
I don't want Akin to quit the race. Anyone the GOP puts up in his stead will be a stronger candidate. I want the seat for the Dems, so I want Akin to stick it out.
I don't think the Romney campaign is going to let that happen. They've decided he's a liability. I wouldn't be surprised to hear an announcement that he's "suspending" his Senate campaign any minute.
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Prideful, Arrogant Marriage Equality Advocate Mon, Aug 20, 2012 3:14:56pm |
re: #60 Kragar
Who the fuck "hates farming?" That doesn't even make any damn sense.
Are there people out there who lay awake at night unable to sleep because of their seething hatred of Farming?
The religious right is the Republican party now. Akins sounded very comfortable and matter of fact about it because this is what they have all been taught to believe and i am sure Akin was probably shocked to find out this does not have the backing of the medical community. These people are very insular.
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garhighway Mon, Aug 20, 2012 3:15:52pm |
re: #152 Charles Johnson
I don't think the Romney campaign is going to let that happen. They've decided he's a liability. I wouldn't be surprised to hear an announcement that he's "suspending" his Senate campaign any minute.
Certainly it is the smart play.
But stranger things have happened: Vitter is still in the Senate!
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Amory Blaine Mon, Aug 20, 2012 3:15:52pm |
Suspects in Louisiana deputy shootings tied to ‘sovereign citizen’ movement
Police say at least two of the seven suspects arrested for the fatal shooting of two Louisiana sheriffs deputies last Thursday are connected to the anti-government “sovereign citizen” movement.
According to WBRZ-TV, 28-year-old Kyle Joekel and 44-year-old Terry Smith had identified themselves as part of the movement, which was classified as a domestic terror group last year by the FBI.
Joekel and Smith, along with several members of Smith’s family and other associates, were arrested following an ambush on authorities in LaPlace, Louisiana, about 25 miles west of New Orleans. Deputies Brandon Nielsen and Jeremy Triche were killed in the ensuing shootout. Two more deputies were wounded.
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Obdicut Mon, Aug 20, 2012 3:16:39pm |
re: #147 William Barnett-Lewis
Interesting video. I couldn't crawl in there, let me tell you!
Some people don't care for it very much.
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erik_t Mon, Aug 20, 2012 3:16:56pm |
re: #153 Prideful, Arrogant Marriage Equality Advocate
Who the fuck "hates farming?" That doesn't even make any damn sense.
Are there people out there who lay awake at night unable to sleep because of their seething hatred of Farming?
The GOP has a near-monopoly on seething hatred. I think it's an absolute monopoly if you exclude hatred of the Dallas Cowboys, mowing the lawn, and mosquitos.
They don't seem to understand that. I don't live my life based on who I hate.
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Sheila Broflovski Mon, Aug 20, 2012 3:18:22pm |
re: #153 Prideful, Arrogant Marriage Equality Advocate
Who the fuck "hates farming?" That doesn't even make any damn sense.
Are there people out there who lay awake at night unable to sleep because of their seething hatred of Farming?
I hate that Facebook "Farmville" thing.
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garhighway Mon, Aug 20, 2012 3:18:46pm |
re: #153 Prideful, Arrogant Marriage Equality Advocate
I would respectfully disagree. The religious right is NOT the GOP. The GOP is Grover Norquist and Rush Limbaugh and Karl Rove. It is a delivery mechanism for the redistribution of wealth up the economic ladder. The party leadership uses the rubes to give the party the votes that their economic policies on their own wouldn't get.
But every now and then the rubes assert themselves, and now is one of those times. Maybe.
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The Mongoose Mon, Aug 20, 2012 3:18:59pm |
re: #152 Charles Johnson
I don't think the Romney campaign is going to let that happen. They've decided he's a liability. I wouldn't be surprised to hear an announcement that he's "suspending" his Senate campaign any minute.
I agree it'll probably come soon if it's going to come at all. There's a filing deadline coming up that makes it harder to withdraw once a candidate moves past that stage.
If I had to bet, I'd say that in the next day or two he will actually flat out withdraw from the race, eschewing the "suspending my campaign" bit.
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erik_t Mon, Aug 20, 2012 3:19:38pm |
re: #160 The Mongoose
I agree it'll probably come soon if it's going to come at all. There's a filing deadline coming up that makes it harder to withdraw once a candidate moves past that stage.
If I had to bet, I'd say that in the next day or two he will actually flat out withdraw from the race, eschewing the "suspending my campaign" bit.
It's tomorrow, actually.
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Lidane Mon, Aug 20, 2012 3:21:43pm |
re: #161 erik_t
It's tomorrow, actually.
Yep. The filing deadline is tomorrow afternoon, IIRC. That's why there are so many voices in the GOP calling for him to withdraw today. If he's going to be forced out, it has to happen in the next 24 hours.
If he digs his heels in, the GOP is screwed because there's no way in hell that the McCaskill campaign will let this issue die between now and November.
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bratwurst Mon, Aug 20, 2012 3:21:57pm |
re: #160 The Mongoose
If I had to bet, I'd say that in the next day or two he will actually flat out withdraw from the race, eschewing the "suspending my campaign" bit.
My understanding is that it has to be tomorrow, otherwise his campaign incurs all of the costs associated with getting a different name on the ballot. Considering that the party and Rove have already made clear they are cutting off all funds, I think we are only hours away from a tearful announcement.
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The Mongoose Mon, Aug 20, 2012 3:22:22pm |
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Sheila Broflovski Mon, Aug 20, 2012 3:22:54pm |
Wow. Sick. FAIL.
SICK... @clairecmc McCaskill Funds and Supports Group That Fails to Report Child Rape shar.es/7W2WP via @gatewaypundit @toddakin— Jim Hoft (@gatewaypundit) August 20, 2012
He's talking about Planned Parenthood.
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Digital Display Mon, Aug 20, 2012 3:23:58pm |
Hi Lizards! Winston and I are home today from the Road trip..
We were in the Ozarks and caught an ad about Akins that was devastating, Probably more so than any political ad I've EVER seen.. He is Toast.
I think it was from Democratic National Committee but it may have been a Super Pac..It Laid Akins to Waste..
I'll have to check YouTube for it.. I may be taking a nap soon..Winston is out like a light..
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garhighway Mon, Aug 20, 2012 3:25:15pm |
re: #162 Lidane
Yep. The filing deadline is tomorrow afternoon, IIRC. That's why there are so many voices in the GOP calling for him to withdraw today. If he's going to be forced out, it has to happen in the next 24 hours.
If he digs his heels in, the GOP is screwed because there's no way in hell that the McCaskill campaign will let this issue die between now and November.
That would be... sad.
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erik_t Mon, Aug 20, 2012 3:26:42pm |
re: #165 Learned Mother of Zion
Wow. Sick. FAIL.
[Embedded content]
He's talking about Planned Parenthood.
Dumbest motherfucker on or off of the internet.
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Randall Gross Mon, Aug 20, 2012 3:26:56pm |
ha, Just received this from NRO:
Step Aside, Todd Akin
By The Editors
Representative Todd Akin, the Republican nominee for Senator from Missouri, became nationally notorious yesterday for saying something stupid. In the course of explaining why he believes abortion should be illegal even when pregnancies result from rape, he said that in cases of “legitimate rape” the victim’s body has defense mechanisms that usually prevent pregnancy.
Give the man points for concision, at least: His remarks combined several mistakes with brutal efficiency. There is no evidence for Akin’s biological claim. The frequency with which rape results in pregnancy has no bearing on whether abortion should be allowed when it does. And while it is not completely clear what point Akin was trying to make with the phrase, “legitimate rape” should not appear in any good one.
Only a small minority of Americans opposes abortion in cases of rape, and some Democrats are now trying to claim that the real scandal in Akin’s remarks is that he, and some other Republicans, belongs to it. For the very same reason this issue offers Democrats political opportunities, however, it is only a theoretical one: No state is going to ban abortion in the case of rape even if Roe v. Wade is overruled — and even if Akin were elected to the Senate. Everyone knows this. (In contrast, Obama’s minority position on abortion — that infants who survive abortion should have no legal protection if they are at an early stage of development — led him to fight an actual change in the law.)
Some voters may nevertheless find a candidate’s theoretical view so abhorrent that they cannot support him, and it is a perfectly legitimate issue for opponents to raise. Most Republicans who hold the view that unborn children have a right to life regardless of the circumstances of their conception will have the wit to explain themselves in a way that prevents most voters who disagree from vetoing them for that reason.
While Akin is a stalwart conservative and an honorable man, we regret to say that he inspires no such confidence. That is one reason why Senator Claire McCaskill, the sitting Democratic senator, boosted him during the Republican primaries with ads calling him a “true conservative.” She knew that she is the weakest Senate incumbent on the ballot this year and that her only hope was to draw a weak opponent. Akin won a three-way primary with a plurality of the vote; there was no run-off. McCaskill’s strategy is now paying off.
Akin has backed off from his remarks, albeit with the politician’s excuse of “misspeaking.” People who make such remarks on television are typically capable of making more like them, or rather incapable of exercising the judgment to refrain. We suspect that this same lack of judgment will cause Akin to blow past tomorrow evening’s deadline for him to leave the race and allow the Republicans to select a better nominee. We hope the congressman, who surely wants to see a Senate with as much conservative strength as possible next year, will prove us wrong.
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Prideful, Arrogant Marriage Equality Advocate Mon, Aug 20, 2012 3:27:42pm |
re: #159 garhighway
I understand where you are coming from, but i don't think those guys are as much of the party as they like to think they are any more. I think their has been a massive power exchange over the last few years with the religious right now calling the shots and running the party. Those three guys are just around anymore to make sure they and the rich and powerful get theirs.
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Lidane Mon, Aug 20, 2012 3:28:52pm |
re: #165 Learned Mother of Zion
No surprise. Dim Hoft glossed over Akin's idiocy yesterday, calling it a "clumsy remark":
[Link: www.thegatewaypundit.com...]
It was only after the GOP powers that be started piling on Akin that Dim Hoft realized they might just be screwed in Missouri if Akin stays in.
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Reverend Mother Ramallo Mon, Aug 20, 2012 3:31:00pm |
re: #126 b_sharp
I think it's fascinating. Nature finds a way, and all that.
At the same time, a grizzly-polar bear mix scares me a little.
I keep thinking of the giant short faced bear or cave bear -- like it's some kind of super predator not to be messed with.
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Gus Mon, Aug 20, 2012 3:31:06pm |
Utterly disgraceful what #Assange apologist @craigmurrayorg just did on national television. #DueProcess anyone?— David Allen Green (@DavidAllenGreen) August 20, 2012
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Charles Johnson Mon, Aug 20, 2012 3:31:38pm |
Romney's trying like crazy to look sane right now. Todd Akin is ruining the Etch-a-Sketch moment for him - Akin makes the GOP look like a bunch of weird reactionary cavemen. That will never do, even though Akin's only crime was saying out loud what a lot of them believe (including Paul Ryan) but usually conceal.
He's gotta go.
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Shiplord Kirel Mon, Aug 20, 2012 3:31:49pm |
The Pubs can still pick another candidate if Akin quits. How will they find a better candidate? I suggest they could do so by picking someone at random from the KC phone directory and offering them the job.
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The Mongoose Mon, Aug 20, 2012 3:31:57pm |
re: #170 Prideful, Arrogant Marriage Equality Advocate
I understand where you are coming from, but i don't think those guys are as much of the party as they like to think they are any more. I think their has been a massive power exchange over the last few years with the religious right now calling the shots and running the party. Those three guys are just around anymore to make sure they and the rich and powerful get theirs.
The big hammer the party establishment holds is the ability to turn the money off. The GOP has to be planning to throw a lot of money at this race...money Akin would have been counting on.
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garhighway Mon, Aug 20, 2012 3:32:30pm |
re: #170 Prideful, Arrogant Marriage Equality Advocate
I understand where you are coming from, but i don't think those guys are as much of the party as they like to think they are any more. I think their has been a massive power exchange over the last few years with the religious right now calling the shots and running the party. Those three guys are just around anymore to make sure they and the rich and powerful get theirs.
I hear you, but look at the results: Romney's the nominee and his ward Robin the Tax Cut Boy is his running mate. If the GOP was truly in thrall to the socons, we'd be seeing one of THEM up there. Every candidate in recent memory has been an economic conservative first and social conservative second if at all. The party knows where its bread is buttered.
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Lidane Mon, Aug 20, 2012 3:32:32pm |
re: #169 Randall Gross
While Akin is a stalwart conservative and an honorable man,
Honorable? Where exactly is the honor in implying that women who get pregnant after being raped got that way because they weren't traumatized or stressed out enough by the experience?
FAIL.
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The Ghost of a Flea Mon, Aug 20, 2012 3:32:40pm |
re: #165 Learned Mother of Zion
Wow. Sick. FAIL.
He's talking about Planned Parenthood.
Isn't that a citation of one of the failed Breitbart schemes where they had obviously edited video?
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aagcobb Mon, Aug 20, 2012 3:33:14pm |
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Gus Mon, Aug 20, 2012 3:34:53pm |
As just reported on @nbcnightlynews, Paul Ryan is among the high powered GOPers to personally call Akin, urging him to rethink campaign— Chuck Todd (@chucktodd) August 20, 2012
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darthstar Mon, Aug 20, 2012 3:35:15pm |
It's a sad day when the President must come out and tell everyone that he is against rape, unlike some of the people in the opposition party— Tweets from God (@MorgonFreeman) August 20, 2012
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garhighway Mon, Aug 20, 2012 3:35:24pm |
re: #176 The Mongoose
The big hammer the party establishment holds is the ability to turn the money off. The GOP has to be planning to throw a lot of money at this race...money Akin would have been counting on.
But if the religious right comes through, he won't need the establishment money. I am sure he is doing that math, calling Tony Perkins and Bryan Fischer right now. He has to be thinking that with their dough he can survive this, beat Claire and have a six year ride, and at the end of that no one will remember this. He just has to make it through tomorrow.
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The Mongoose Mon, Aug 20, 2012 3:36:55pm |
re: #184 garhighway
But if the religious right comes through, he won't need the establishment money. I am sure he is doing that math, calling Tony Perkins and Bryan Fischer right now. He has to be thinking that with their dough he can survive this, beat Claire and have a six year ride, and at the end of that no one will remember this. He just has to make it through tomorrow.
I agree he's probably doing exactly that. My guess is he'll come up short. Fischer & friends can't match the kind of PAC and party money that's running for the hills right now.
At least I hope not.
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Reverend Mother Ramallo Mon, Aug 20, 2012 3:37:11pm |
re: #158 Learned Mother of Zion
Yes. This is one of the main reasons I avoid Facebook.
Stupid Farmville requests....
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erik_t Mon, Aug 20, 2012 3:38:05pm |
re: #184 garhighway
But if the religious right comes through, he won't need the establishment money. I am sure he is doing that math, calling Tony Perkins and Bryan Fischer right now. He has to be thinking that with their dough he can survive this, beat Claire and have a six year ride, and at the end of that no one will remember this. He just has to make it through tomorrow.
God, that'd be amazing. He'd put Missouri into play.
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SpaceJesus Mon, Aug 20, 2012 3:38:18pm |
The four most beautiful words in the English language: "block all by farmville"
or
"block all by pinterest"
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bratwurst Mon, Aug 20, 2012 3:39:49pm |
re: #169 Randall Gross
ha, Just received this from NRO:
Step Aside, Todd Akin
By The Editors
Only a small minority of Americans opposes abortion in cases of rape, and some Democrats are now trying to claim that the real scandal in Akin’s remarks is that he, and some other Republicans, belongs to it. For the very same reason this issue offers Democrats political opportunities, however, it is only a theoretical one: No state is going to ban abortion in the case of rape even if Roe v. Wade is overruled — and even if Akin were elected to the Senate. Everyone knows this.
We used to get this same kind of patter around here from conservatives: "just ignore the religious extremists...nobody takes them seriously".
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garhighway Mon, Aug 20, 2012 3:39:56pm |
re: #185 The Mongoose
I agree he's probably doing exactly that. My guess is he'll come up short. Fischer & friends can't match the kind of PAC and party money that's running for the hills right now.
At least I hope not.
And I hope he does. He is precisely the kind of GOP candidate I like: a loser.
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Mattand Mon, Aug 20, 2012 3:40:42pm |
re: #171 Lidane
No surprise. Dim Hoft glossed over Akin's idiocy yesterday, calling it a "clumsy remark":
[Link: www.thegatewaypundit.com...]
It was only after the GOP powers that be started piling on Akin that Dim Hoft realized they might just be screwed in Missouri if Akin stays in.
He's called "Dim" for a reason.
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darthstar Mon, Aug 20, 2012 3:41:19pm |
re: #182 Gus
[Embedded content]
Akin: "Hello?"
Ryan: "Todd, it's me, Paul."
Akin: "Hey bud, can you believe the grief I'm getting?"
Ryan: "Yeah...you see, I'm on the ticket as VP--did you know it doesn't mean vaginal probe? What the fuck? Anyway...I wanted to talk to you about your rhetoric with regard to women."
Akin: "Yeah, can you believe that vag is closing on me in the polls?"
Ryan: "Uh, Todd...you're not helping yoursel--"
Akin: "Think you've got room for me on your cabinet after you...I mean Mitt...wins in November...I mean...just in case she manages to beat me of course."
Ryan: "Actually, I wanted to talk to you about the race."
Akin: "Hey, I'm holding a town hall on Sunday...I sure would be keen on having you join me on stage."
Ryan: :"Todd, how can I put this gently enough...would you like to go bow-hunting deer with me this weekend?"
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JamesWI Mon, Aug 20, 2012 3:41:32pm |
re: #152 Charles Johnson
I don't think the Romney campaign is going to let that happen. They've decided he's a liability. I wouldn't be surprised to hear an announcement that he's "suspending" his Senate campaign any minute.
You're giving the Romney campaign a lot more credit than I would. These are the guys who purposefully shifted the campaign focus from the economy and Obamacare, to Social Security and Medicare.
I don't think they'd be able to talk Akin into anything.
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Gus Mon, Aug 20, 2012 3:43:16pm |
Romney's GOP drops Cuba, gays in the military from platform
...
“We reject the use of the military as a platform for social experimentation,” states the 2012 platform. “We will conduct an objective review of the current administration’s management of military personnel and will correct any problems with appropriate administrative of legal action.”
Even more striking, perhaps, the 2012 platform, as drafted, contains no mention in its foreign policy section of Cuba, a topic of intense interest to pro-Republican Cuban-American voters in south Florida and a set-piece of Republican dogma for a half-century.
...
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Shiplord Kirel Mon, Aug 20, 2012 3:43:45pm |
It's kind of amusing to see Romney, Ryan, et al, in panic mode, as they are forced to rebuke their own candidate in public. This is not bad management or poor strategy though. It is a natural consequence of the party's deliberate choices over a period of decades. They invited the crazies into their big tent, now they are amazed and horrified that the loons have run amok, wrecking the stands, turning the animals loose, and setting the place on fire.
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SpaceJesus Mon, Aug 20, 2012 3:45:59pm |
re: #195 Shiplord Kirel
Ronnie's little pet under the stairs doesn't want to live under the stairs anymore. They fed it for 30 years, now it wants a seat at the table.
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SpaceJesus Mon, Aug 20, 2012 3:46:57pm |
Also, I need to make my daily "fuck Ronald Reagan" post somewhere on the internet. This will do.
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Mattand Mon, Aug 20, 2012 3:47:19pm |
re: #195 Shiplord Kirel
It's kind of amusing to see Romney, Ryan, et al, in panic mode, as they are forced to rebuke their own candidate in public. This is not bad management or poor strategy though. It is a natural consequence of the party's deliberate choices over a period of decades. They invited the crazies into their big tent, now they are amazed and horrified that the loons have run amok, wrecking the stands, turning the animals loose, and setting the place on fire.
Kinda like when the Gotham mob hires the Joker in The Dark Knight Returns.
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garhighway Mon, Aug 20, 2012 3:52:48pm |
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darthstar Mon, Aug 20, 2012 3:53:20pm |
UMM, WOW. RT @avincentz "Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan" is an anagram of "My ultimate Ayn Rand porn"— Phil (@FearlessPhilip) August 20, 2012
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Lidane Mon, Aug 20, 2012 3:55:26pm |
As usual, The Onion nails it:
I Misspoke—What I Meant To Say Is 'I Am Dumb As Dog Shit And I Am A Terrible Human Being'
Because, of course, it’s all about context. And yes, when you take what I said out of context, I can see how it might sound like I’m denying that women can be impregnated via rape. This is, I assure you, not what I was trying to express at all. Such is the age we live in that one little sentence excerpted in a news report can come back to haunt a person in a pretty big hurry. But if you actually go back and look at the remarks closely, you’ll see that what I was actually trying to convey in my statement was that
(1) I am a big fucking idiot,
(2) I am a nauseating slug of a human being who doesn’t deserve to live, and
(3) I am essentially everything that’s wrong with this country and with humanity in general.
Honestly, that’s all I was trying to get across there. It was a simple misunderstanding, really.
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Decatur Deb Mon, Aug 20, 2012 3:56:16pm |
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wrenchwench Mon, Aug 20, 2012 3:57:49pm |
re: #206 Decatur Deb
One 'I', just like the snake.
Back from Florida? Or do they have the internets there now?
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darthstar Mon, Aug 20, 2012 3:58:39pm |
re: #204 darthstar
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Actually, I couldn't find that one, but this one is fitting: Radiantly momentary pun.
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darthstar Mon, Aug 20, 2012 3:59:10pm |
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moderatelyradicalliberal Mon, Aug 20, 2012 3:59:30pm |
Akin just revealed the truth about what the forced birth movement wants. They want abortion banned in all cases. And the forced birthers who claim that exceptions for rape and incest should be allowed would require the highest standard of proof that a "real" rape occurred. So you better be willing to press charges and have photos of yourself beat to shit, proving "forcible rape".
Republicans know they can't win telling the truth about what they really want so they have to lie and when politicians like Akin tell the truth, they have to be disappeared.
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darthstar Mon, Aug 20, 2012 4:00:29pm |
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Decatur Deb Mon, Aug 20, 2012 4:02:34pm |
re: #207 wrenchwench
Back from Florida? Or do they have the internets there now?
Back for an hour or so--was very chaotic (Dems) but went well. We are trained up for a couple trips between now and the Oct registration cut-off. Tales to tell.
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wrenchwench Mon, Aug 20, 2012 4:05:02pm |
re: #212 Decatur Deb
Back for an hour or so--was very chaotic (Dems) but went well. We are trained up for a couple trips between now and the Oct registration cut-off. Tales to tell.
Good for you! You have a place in my favorites file called "This is how it's done, folks" (or it will be when I get around to organizing it [dem]).
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Aug 20, 2012 4:09:00pm |
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nines09 Mon, Aug 20, 2012 4:11:19pm |
re: #210 moderatelyradicalliberal
Akin just revealed the truth about what the forced birth movement wants. They want abortion banned in all cases. And the forced birthers who claim that exceptions for rape and incest should be allowed would require the highest standard of proof that a "real" rape occurred. So you better be willing to press charges and have photos of yourself beat to shit, proving "forcible rape".
Republicans know they can't win telling the truth about what they really want so they have to lie and when politicians like Akin tell the truth, they have to be disappeared.
Akin is The Republican Party. Now it's Vultures and Vouchers and A Big Fat Cinder Block Around the GOP's Neck. I love it.
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God of Binders with Women Mon, Aug 20, 2012 4:11:28pm |
“If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to shut that whole thing down.”
Yeah, an abortion. Which is what your campaign is about to get. Fucking douche canoe.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Aug 20, 2012 4:11:33pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Aug 20, 2012 4:11:57pm |
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kirkspencer Mon, Aug 20, 2012 4:12:33pm |
re: #210 moderatelyradicalliberal
Akin just revealed the truth about what the forced birth movement wants. They want abortion banned in all cases. And the forced birthers who claim that exceptions for rape and incest should be allowed would require the highest standard of proof that a "real" rape occurred. So you better be willing to press charges and have photos of yourself beat to shit, proving "forcible rape".
Republicans know they can't win telling the truth about what they really want so they have to lie and when politicians like Akin tell the truth, they have to be disappeared.
I mostly agree but you missed something. see, the charges and photos aren't enough. You need a conviction. Of course since the typical conviction occurs more than 9 months after the crime...
what a shame. ///
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Aug 20, 2012 4:13:17pm |
re: #88 Kragar
The Oregon wolf that moved into California this past year has been hanging with coyotes. They're waiting to see if he'll try to breed with them, or go back to Oregon to find a mate.
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Shiplord Kirel Mon, Aug 20, 2012 4:14:00pm |
Romney tries, but he could not get rid of the Akin cooties now if he scrubbed his hide with Drain-O.
For one thing, quite a few of the GOP's current defacto leaders (Fischer, Barton, Loesch, etc.) persist in actually supporting Akin, neatly undercutting their anointed leader.
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aagcobb Mon, Aug 20, 2012 4:14:34pm |
re: #216 Changing Colors, Spinning Yarns
Yeah, an abortion. Which is what your campaign is about to get. Fucking douche canoe.
He must be shocked for being thrown under the bus just for being candid. This is why McCaskill wanted him to be her opponent; he doesn't know when to speak his mind and when to lie.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Aug 20, 2012 4:15:14pm |
T-shirt Hell sure gets shit done. Fast!!!
[Link: www.tshirthell.com...]
and
[Link: www.tshirthell.com...]
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Aug 20, 2012 4:16:02pm |
re: #165 Learned Mother of Zion
Wow. Sick. FAIL.
[Embedded content]
He's talking about Planned Parenthood.
That's OK, Mr. Hoft. I'm sure it's not legitimate child rape.
You sick bastard.
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freetoken Mon, Aug 20, 2012 4:16:30pm |
re: #221 Shiplord Kirel
Romney is a Damocles, and fundamentalist religious right is the sword.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Aug 20, 2012 4:17:47pm |
re: #198 SpaceJesus
Ronnie's little pet under the stairs doesn't want to live under the stairs anymore. They fed it for 30 years, now it wants a seat at the table.
Can you blame it? They keep promising it one.
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Kragar Mon, Aug 20, 2012 4:18:49pm |
Ryan and Akin also cosponsored a federal personhood bill, the Sanctity of Human Life Act of 2009, which declares that a fertilized egg is entitled to the exact same legal rights as a human being:
(1) the Congress declares that–
(A) the right to life guaranteed by the Constitution is vested in each human being, and is the paramount and most fundamental right of a person; and
(B) the life of each human being begins with fertilization, cloning, or its functional equivalent, irrespective of sex, health, function or disability, defect, stage of biological development, or condition of dependency, at which time every human being shall have all the legal and constitutional attributes and privileges of personhood; and
(2) the Congress affirms that the Congress, each State, the District of Columbia, and all United States territories have the authority to protect the lives of all human beings residing in its respective jurisdictions.
Lest there be any doubt, this bill is unconstitutional. Congress does not have the power to overrule Roe v. Wade by an ordinary statue, only a constitutional amendment could serve that purpose. Moreover, even if Roe were overruled by the Supreme Court, Ryan and Akin’s bill still attempts to redefine who “the right to life guaranteed by the Constitution” applies to. Again, changing the meaning of the Constitution can only be done through an amendment, not through an ordinary Act of Congress.
Should Ryan and Akin’s personhood agenda take effect, however, it would drastically reduce women’s reproductive choice. The bill declares that a human egg obtains “all the legal and constitutional attributes and privileges of personhood” the moment it merges with a human sperm. Thus, a Blastocyst-American would not only enjoy the same constitutional status as a fully grown adult, it would also enjoy any “legal” attributes enjoyed by adults. Because every states’ law makes it a crime to kill a human adult, the likely effect of Ryan and Akin’s personhood bill would be to treat killing a fertilized egg as the same thing as homicide.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Aug 20, 2012 4:19:37pm |
re: #219 kirkspencer
I mostly agree but you missed something. see, the charges and photos aren't enough. You need a conviction. Of course since the typical conviction occurs more than 9 months after the crime...
what a shame. ///
This is the thing that I couldn't nail down Ron Paul's followers on, the last time we were fighting over 'real' rape.
Is a conviction required?
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Kragar Mon, Aug 20, 2012 4:20:17pm |
So is Ryan's personhood background off the table?
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steve_davis Mon, Aug 20, 2012 4:20:29pm |
re: #1 darthstar
At some point in the not too distant future, probably not until after the elections though, we're going to have to write "former CNN contributor Dana Loesch"...but first, they need to compete with Fox for lunatic news organization of the year.
At some point in the not too distant future, we're going to have to write "former network CNN." the only time I ever watch CNN anymore is if there is a critical national emergency that is being covered and MSNBC goes off to commercial break. Even Fox actually does breaking stuff pretty well because there isn't time for the Wizard to send down talking points about it.
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SmithCommaJohn Mon, Aug 20, 2012 4:20:59pm |
Sad that such ugly things can come out of such a pretty face.
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Lidane Mon, Aug 20, 2012 4:21:36pm |
re: #229 Kragar
Whether Akin drops out tomorrow or not, Paul Ryan should be nailed to the fucking wall for sponsoring such a hateful bill.
Akin's ignorance about pregnancy and rape should be considered the default GOP view since it's the default "pro-life" view anyway. Let's hear Ryan dance around it for the next three months. Should be fun.
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Kragar Mon, Aug 20, 2012 4:22:00pm |
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Only The Lurker Knows Mon, Aug 20, 2012 4:22:32pm |
re: #65 Sionainn
Was he dropped on his head as a baby?
No, but he did fall down a mountain. Could have something to do with it.
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SmithCommaJohn Mon, Aug 20, 2012 4:22:43pm |
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aagcobb Mon, Aug 20, 2012 4:25:30pm |
re: #239 nines09
I probably wiped out entire Galaxies in my teens.
OK, do we really need to turn this into a masturbation thread?
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b_sharp Mon, Aug 20, 2012 4:25:37pm |
re: #153 Prideful, Arrogant Marriage Equality Advocate
Who the fuck "hates farming?" That doesn't even make any damn sense.
Are there people out there who lay awake at night unable to sleep because of their seething hatred of Farming?The religious right is the Republican party now. Akins sounded very comfortable and matter of fact about it because this is what they have all been taught to believe and i am sure Akin was probably shocked to find out this does not have the backing of the medical community. These people are very insular.
I hate farming. It's bloody tough work during the summer. Up at 4:00am, work your ass off until 9:00pm then sleep for 5 hours and do it all again the next day. If you can't get the crop off before mid September then you work even harder because you know the frost is just around the corner.
That is the only 'hate farming' possible if you want to eat.
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Kragar Mon, Aug 20, 2012 4:26:45pm |
re: #240 aagcobb
OK, do we really need to turn this into a masturbation thread?
Well, since you brought it up....
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b_sharp Mon, Aug 20, 2012 4:27:31pm |
re: #156 Obdicut
Some people don't care for it very much.
I couldn't crawl in there because I'm too fat. The fun of pulling out a pup would distract me from any claustrophobia I might feel.
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aagcobb Mon, Aug 20, 2012 4:28:05pm |
re: #241 b_sharp
I hate farming. It's bloody tough work during the summer. Up at 4:00am, work your ass off until 9:00pm then sleep for 5 hours and do it all again the next day. If you can't get the crop off before mid September then you work even harder because you know the frost is just around the corner.
That is the only 'hate farming' possible if you want to eat.
And then if you are unlucky, pandering politicians pass some racist anti-immigration bill, and your entire workforce disappears leaving you with fields full of rotting crops.
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wrenchwench Mon, Aug 20, 2012 4:30:55pm |
re: #241 b_sharp
I hate farming. It's bloody tough work during the summer. Up at 4:00am, work your ass off until 9:00pm then sleep for 5 hours and do it all again the next day. If you can't get the crop off before mid September then you work even harder because you know the frost is just around the corner.
That is the only 'hate farming' possible if you want to eat.
I met a young woman once who had callouses on both sides of her hands. Turns out she was heading home to Germany from some kind of farm worker exchange program, and she'd been working at a dairy in Iowa for a year. I think she was probably exploited as cheap labor, but it taught her that she wanted to go to college and not be a farmer.
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nines09 Mon, Aug 20, 2012 4:30:58pm |
Well,we were talking about Bocephus and Akin and Dan and Ryan.That is some World Class Jerk Offs.
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darthstar Mon, Aug 20, 2012 4:30:59pm |
Ten raunchiest ads for the RNC convention in Tampa (who knew they had so many strip clubs there...probably Reince Preibus as he booked the joint).
Image: republicanstripper3.png
Though it'll be funny if there's a line for the 'dark room' where you can 'take a shot in the dark' - sorry ladies...that club is for men only...though in a dark room, telling the difference between Bill Kristol and Virginia Foxx is probably damn near impossible.
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Obdicut Mon, Aug 20, 2012 4:33:17pm |
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God of Binders with Women Mon, Aug 20, 2012 4:35:28pm |
re: #247 darthstar
Ten raunchiest ads for the RNC convention in Tampa (who knew they had so many strip clubs there...probably Reince Preibus as he booked the joint).
Image: republicanstripper3.png
Though it'll be funny if there's a line for the 'dark room' where you can 'take a shot in the dark' - sorry ladies...that club is for men only...though in a dark room, telling the difference between Bill Kristol and Virginia Foxx is probably damn near impossible.
This is awesome. "SENIORS WELCOME! SENIORS WELCOME!" I guess the GOP will try and get the blue hair vote by any means necessary, huh?
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celticdragon Mon, Aug 20, 2012 4:36:17pm |
re: #18 Learned Mother of Zion
I just got this wonderful email:
Apparently this was sent not just to me, but spammed to an entire listserv that hasn't been active for years.
Fucking idiots.
Whaaa...?
Are we back to the Blood Libel thing again...new and improved on your 4G network??
It seems that even the seriously mentally ill and the cognitively challenged can use technology...unfortunately for the rest of us.
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Reverend Mother Ramallo Mon, Aug 20, 2012 4:36:28pm |
Reince Priebus...Rick Santorum...
Just ewwww.
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allegro Mon, Aug 20, 2012 4:37:14pm |
re: #247 darthstar
Ten raunchiest ads for the RNC convention in Tampa (who knew they had so many strip clubs there...probably Reince Preibus as he booked the joint).
Image: republicanstripper3.png
Though it'll be funny if there's a line for the 'dark room' where you can 'take a shot in the dark' - sorry ladies...that club is for men only...though in a dark room, telling the difference between Bill Kristol and Virginia Foxx is probably damn near impossible.
Note the "discrete ETHNIC male dancers by request"
Heh. That will be popular.
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celticdragon Mon, Aug 20, 2012 4:38:08pm |
re: #235 Lidane
Whether Akin drops out tomorrow or not, Paul Ryan should be nailed to the fucking wall for sponsoring such a hateful bill.
Akin's ignorance about pregnancy and rape should be considered the default GOP view since it's the default "pro-life" view anyway. Let's hear Ryan dance around it for the next three months. Should be fun.
Paul Ryan should be nailed to a Herald of Slaanesh, but he would probably like it...
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Mon, Aug 20, 2012 4:39:00pm |
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Lidane Mon, Aug 20, 2012 4:39:34pm |
ABL is on fire today:
They are the same misogynist assclowns today that they were the day before yesterday. Please don’t forget that.
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Kragar Mon, Aug 20, 2012 4:40:12pm |
re: #255 Stanley Sea
Circling, circling. Didn't Hannity earlier take his side?
Forget it Jake. Its GOPTown.
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b_sharp Mon, Aug 20, 2012 4:41:22pm |
re: #172 OhNoZombies!
I think it's fascinating. Nature finds a way, and all that.
At the same time, a grizzly-polar bear mix scares me a little.
I keep thinking of the giant short faced bear or cave bear -- like it's some kind of super predator not to be messed with.
We already have that in the Kodiak.
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Kragar Mon, Aug 20, 2012 4:43:54pm |
re: #258 b_sharp
We already have that in the Kodiak.
Soon my diabolical plot to crossbreed ravenous Piranha with Chihuahua will be ready. All shall fear my tide of yipping death!
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Sheila Broflovski Mon, Aug 20, 2012 4:44:21pm |
re: #251 celticdragon
Whaaa...?
Are we back to the Blood Libel thing again...new and improved on your 4G network??
It seems that even the seriously mentally ill and the cognitively challenged can use technology...unfortunately for the rest of us.
I felt like texting back "If we didn't kill your god, you would never be saved!" but, it's a fucking spammer.
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Eventual Carrion Mon, Aug 20, 2012 4:46:26pm |
re: #121 OhNoZombies!
From the article:
In 2006 an American hunter shot an animal in the far north of Canada’s Northwest Territories that shared characteristics of a polar bear and a grizzly. Earlier this year, a similar bear was killed less than 200 miles away, and DNA tests confirmed it was a mixture of the two species. The "grolar bear" thus joined a growing list of cross-species couplings -- beluga whales and narwhals, right whales and bowhead whales, various seal mixtures -- all confirmed to varying degrees by scientists in the Arctic over the past two decades.
ManBearPig!
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Aug 20, 2012 4:46:57pm |
re: #255 Stanley Sea
Circling, circling. Didn't Hannity earlier take his side?
He's being abandoned. The fringe will still defend him--he's right! Women totally have anti-rape juices! There is no rape! Whatever!--but the GOP establishment is stepping back and watching him fall.
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Reverend Mother Ramallo Mon, Aug 20, 2012 4:47:44pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Aug 20, 2012 4:48:01pm |
re: #260 Learned Mother of Zion
I felt like texting back "If we didn't kill your god, you would never be saved!" but, it's a fucking spammer.
Ne had the apple taken been,
The apple taken been,
Ne had never our ladie,
Abeen heav'ne queen.
Blyssid be the tyme
that appil take was!
Therefore we moun singen.
Deo gracias!
Not exactly the same theological connection there, but I have always liked that piece.
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Kragar Mon, Aug 20, 2012 4:48:18pm |
re: #260 Learned Mother of Zion
I felt like texting back "If we didn't kill your god, you would never be saved!" but, it's a fucking spammer.
For some reasons Evangelicals hate when I bring up the Norse deities when they start acting offensive.
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aagcobb Mon, Aug 20, 2012 4:49:11pm |
re: #194 Gus
Romney's statement opposing "social experiments" in the military is so vague I can only assume he would've opposed integration of the military in 1948.
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abolitionist Mon, Aug 20, 2012 4:49:25pm |
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celticdragon Mon, Aug 20, 2012 4:49:46pm |
re: #262 SanFranciscoZionist
He's being abandoned. The fringe will still defend him--he's right! Women totally have anti-rape juices! There is no rape! Whatever!--but the GOP establishment is stepping back and watching him fall.
There is no rape...there is only Zool!
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Reverend Mother Ramallo Mon, Aug 20, 2012 4:50:07pm |
re: #255 Stanley Sea
He hadn't received the memo yet.
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celticdragon Mon, Aug 20, 2012 4:51:01pm |
re: #266 aagcobb
Romneys statement opposing "social experiments" in the military is so vague I can only assume he would've opposed integration of the military in 1948.
Considering the LDS church did not admit African Americans until the 1970's, I think that would be an easy bet to make...
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celticdragon Mon, Aug 20, 2012 4:52:29pm |
re: #267 abolitionist
A variation on the closing of Chinatown ?
Complete with rape victim shot in the head on behalf of politically powerful white male who also happened to rape her.
:(
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calochortus Mon, Aug 20, 2012 4:53:11pm |
re: #264 SanFranciscoZionist
Ne had the apple taken been,
The apple taken been,
Ne had never our ladie,
Abeen heav'ne queen.Blyssid be the tyme
that appil take was!
Therefore we moun singen.
Deo gracias!Not exactly the same theological connection there, but I have always liked that piece.
Me too! I'm humming along.
| 273 |
Sheila Broflovski Mon, Aug 20, 2012 4:53:33pm |
I've been watching Phyllis Diller clips on YouTube and I haz a sad.
She was so awesome and funny.
| 274 |
Lidane Mon, Aug 20, 2012 4:54:25pm |
The Onion: Pregnant Woman Relieved To Learn Her Rape Was Illegitimate
Though she was initially upset following the brutal sexual assault last month that left her pregnant, victim Martha Byars told reporters she was relieved Sunday to learn from Rep. Todd Akin (R-MO) that her ability to conceive her unwanted child proves she was not, in fact, legitimately raped.
“Being violently coerced into having sex was the worst thing that’s ever happened to me, so I take comfort in knowing it wasn’t actually rape,” Byars said of the vicious encounter in which she was accosted in an alleyway by a stranger, pinned to the ground, and penetrated against her will for 25 minutes. “It was absolutely horrific—I felt violated in the worst way imaginable—but thanks to Congressman Akin, I now realize it must, at some level, have been consensual after all.”
“Thank God for that,” Byars added. “I’m so relieved to know that my child’s father, the man who muffled my screams as he forcefully penetrated me over and over and left me hemorrhaging to death on the street, is not a rapist.”
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freetoken Mon, Aug 20, 2012 4:54:58pm |
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b_sharp Mon, Aug 20, 2012 4:57:45pm |
re: #245 wrenchwench
I met a young woman once who had callouses on both sides of her hands. Turns out she was heading home to Germany from some kind of farm worker exchange program, and she'd been working at a dairy in Iowa for a year. I think she was probably exploited as cheap labor, but it taught her that she wanted to go to college and not be a farmer.
Dairies use suction based milking machines now, but as an 11/12 year old I lived in a small (less than 900 people) town that had a dairy just a few walking minutes east. I was taught to milk by hand there and my hands still clamp up every time I remember it.
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aagcobb Mon, Aug 20, 2012 4:58:53pm |
re: #275 freetoken
The True Conservatives will see this as a vindication of their suspicion of Romney.
Though some may harbor hope that he will end the misguided 64 year old social experiment with racial integration in the military./
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Kragar Mon, Aug 20, 2012 5:01:15pm |
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Kragar Mon, Aug 20, 2012 5:02:53pm |
Santorum: Obamacare Is Forcing Catholics Into Confession
SANTORUM: We have a president who, for the first time in American history, is directly assaulting the First Amendment and freedom of religion. He is going to tell you what to do in the practice of your faith. He is forcing business people right now to do things that are against their conscience, that they will have to — if you’re a Catholic — you’ll have to go to confession … to confess that you are complying with a government program that is a sin in the Catholic Church.
Fuck off, Frothy.
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austin_blue Mon, Aug 20, 2012 5:03:13pm |
re: #274 Lidane
The Onion: Pregnant Woman Relieved To Learn Her Rape Was Illegitimate
Wow. It's funny, but also throat-clenchingly raw.
Brutal shit. But Akins and anyone else who wants to make a differentiation between garden-variety rape and "forcible rape" needs to have that clue bat whack them on a daily basis until they understand the evil they propose in making that Public Policy.
And yes, Mr. Ryan, I am looking at you.
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abolitionist Mon, Aug 20, 2012 5:04:15pm |
re: #278 Kragar
I thought it was obvious.
Yes, but lots of people have never seen it. Many refused to because Polanski directed it and had a minor role. [ed] A bit ironic.
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b_sharp Mon, Aug 20, 2012 5:04:19pm |
re: #260 Learned Mother of Zion
I felt like texting back "If we didn't kill your god, you would never be saved!" but, it's a fucking spammer.
If Jesus was the saviour, then his death was pre-ordained, meaning the people responsible for the death of (one of their own) Jesus were under the control of the Christian god.
Why can't they get that? (I'm looking at you Mel)
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aagcobb Mon, Aug 20, 2012 5:05:19pm |
re: #274 Lidane
The Onion: Pregnant Woman Relieved To Learn Her Rape Was Illegitimate
Now she must marry him, since she obviously wanted it, the slut./
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b_sharp Mon, Aug 20, 2012 5:05:39pm |
re: #262 SanFranciscoZionist
He's being abandoned. The fringe will still defend him--he's right! Women totally have anti-rape juices! There is no rape! Whatever!--but the GOP establishment is stepping back and watching him fall.
Anti-rape juice. That should be bottled and marketed as a natural birth control.
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b_sharp Mon, Aug 20, 2012 5:06:37pm |
re: #265 Kragar
For some reasons Evangelicals hate when I bring up the Norse deities when they start acting offensive.
ODIN!!
Oops:
Balder-dash.
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Lidane Mon, Aug 20, 2012 5:07:36pm |
Republicans Condemn Akin's Comments As Blemish On Party's Otherwise Spotless Women's Rights Record
In the wake of last weekend’s highly controversial comments from Rep. Todd Akin (R-MO), top Republican officials condemned the congressman’s statements Monday, calling them a black mark on the party’s otherwise flawless record on women’s rights issues. “Throughout our history, whether it’s been our position on birth control, abortion, or equal pay for equal work, Republicans have always stood together with women, listening to their needs and fighting for issues that are are important to them. That is why we were stunned that someone from our own party could have made such insensitive remarks or expressed such uninformed opinions about women,” said Republican National Committee chairman Reince Priebus, calling Akin’s comments an outlier, especially when one considers the huge, progressive strides—both personally and professionally—the GOP has helped women make over the years. “We apologize for Congressman Akin. And we want the nation’s women to know that they will continue to have no greater ally than the the Republican Party.” Priebus added that while there was certainly no excuse for Akin’s comments, after 150 years without a single insensitive remark against women, perhaps the GOP was due.
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bratwurst Mon, Aug 20, 2012 5:09:10pm |
This nitwit may REALLY be too stupid to quit:
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Lidane Mon, Aug 20, 2012 5:09:56pm |
re: #280 austin_blue
Wow. It's funny, but also throat-clenchingly raw.
That was my thought as well. Yeah, I laughed, but the stark reality of it is, that's exactly what Akin was saying, and it's exactly what the so-called "pro-life" movement believes about pregnancy and rape.
Yeah, what Akin said is mind-numbingly ignorant, shocking and offensive, but it's also a viewpoint that has been shaping GOP policy about rape, abortion, and women's rights for decades.
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austin_blue Mon, Aug 20, 2012 5:12:13pm |
re: #286 Lidane
Republicans Condemn Akin's Comments As Blemish On Party's Otherwise Spotless Women's Rights Record
Reince Priebus is a lying shack of shite.
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Daniel Ballard Mon, Aug 20, 2012 5:12:27pm |
Suspending my campaign. Turns out that robots can't run for president… in spite of 30 yrs of evidence to the contrary.
— SarcasticRover (@SarcasticRover) August 20, 2012
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Mon, Aug 20, 2012 5:12:33pm |
re: #286 Lidane
Republicans Condemn Akin's Comments As Blemish On Party's Otherwise Spotless Women's Rights Record
Sarah Palin gloated that she supported the more tea bagging bagger.
Such a shallow person.
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Lidane Mon, Aug 20, 2012 5:12:47pm |
re: #289 austin_blue
Reince Priebus is a lying shack of shite.
Check the URL. I forgot to add the credit to The Onion. :)
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DREd Mon, Aug 20, 2012 5:12:57pm |
'Huckabee: Horrible Rapes Created Some Extraordinary People'
I seriously thought this was an onion headline. But no, that's from the LA Times.
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compound_Idaho Mon, Aug 20, 2012 5:13:35pm |
re: #270 celticdragon
Considering the LDS church did not admit African Americans until the 1970's, I think that would be an easy bet to make...
It may be a distinction without a difference, but membership has always been open to all races. Blacks could not be ordained into the priesthood until the '70's.
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b_sharp Mon, Aug 20, 2012 5:14:07pm |
re: #286 Lidane
Republicans Condemn Akin's Comments As Blemish On Party's Otherwise Spotless Women's Rights Record
Where does this Reince guy live?
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Mon, Aug 20, 2012 5:14:11pm |
re: #288 Lidane
That was my thought as well. Yeah, I laughed, but the stark reality of it is, that's exactly what Akin was saying, and it's exactly what the so-called "pro-life" movement believes about pregnancy and rape.
Yeah, what Akin said is mind-numbingly ignorant, shocking and offensive, but it's also a viewpoint that has been shaping GOP policy about rape, abortion, and women's rights for decades.
Shaped by men in suits, and the few women so without empathy to their fellow beings or just towing the line to get along in the GOP.
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austin_blue Mon, Aug 20, 2012 5:14:49pm |
re: #292 Lidane
Check the URL. I forgot to add the credit to The Onion. :)
Odd that I thought it was an actual quote from the RNC. How could I have thought?
Apologies to all.
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erik_t Mon, Aug 20, 2012 5:14:51pm |
re: #293 DREd
'Huckabee: Horrible Rapes Created Some Extraordinary People'
I seriously thought this was an onion headline. But no, that's from the LA Times.
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b_sharp Mon, Aug 20, 2012 5:16:19pm |
re: #292 Lidane
Check the URL. I forgot to add the credit to The Onion. :)
Bad. Bad Lidane. Bad.
Arghl-gaarhgle I've been POEd.
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dragonfire1981 Mon, Aug 20, 2012 5:17:24pm |
re: #286 Lidane
Republicans Condemn Akin's Comments As Blemish On Party's Otherwise Spotless Women's Rights Record
I confess: Before I checked the link, I actually thought that was real.
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allegro Mon, Aug 20, 2012 5:17:46pm |
re: #286 Lidane
Republicans Condemn Akin's Comments As Blemish On Party's Otherwise Spotless Women's Rights Record
That was from the Onion, right? Right?!
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Reverend Mother Ramallo Mon, Aug 20, 2012 5:17:47pm |
re: #294 compound_Idaho
It may be a distinction without a difference, but membership has always been open to all races. Blacks could not be ordained into the priesthood until the '70's.
I've read what their various leaders have said about blah people.
That is all.
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Lidane Mon, Aug 20, 2012 5:18:01pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Aug 20, 2012 5:18:43pm |
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Shiplord Kirel Mon, Aug 20, 2012 5:19:47pm |
re: #297 austin_blue
Odd that I thought it was an actual quote from the RNC. How could I have thought?
Apologies to all.
Not odd at all. It is no more absurd than Huckabee's quite incredible statement about the results of rape but the latter is absolutely genuine.
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Lidane Mon, Aug 20, 2012 5:19:51pm |
re: #301 allegro
That was from the Onion, right? Right?!
Yes. And I missed the editing time before I noticed I'd left off credit to The Onion.
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Renaissance_Man Mon, Aug 20, 2012 5:23:43pm |
re: #177 garhighway
I hear you, but look at the results: Romney's the nominee and his ward Robin the Tax Cut Boy is his running mate. If the GOP was truly in thrall to the socons, we'd be seeing one of THEM up there. Every candidate in recent memory has been an economic conservative first and social conservative second if at all. The party knows where its bread is buttered.
Only by the American definition of 'conservative'.
There is nothing 'conservative' about the trickle-down nuttery that the Republican candidates worship. It is radical and extreme, the very antithesis of 'conservative'. Much as the GOP itself is now radical and extreme, the very antithesis of 'conservative'.
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allegro Mon, Aug 20, 2012 5:27:38pm |
re: #306 Lidane
Yes. And I missed the editing time before I noticed I'd left off credit to The Onion.
It was so hilarious, it had to be.
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Petero1818 Mon, Aug 20, 2012 5:39:39pm |
increasingly I find Huckabee to be one of the most vile pieces of crap in the entire political landscape. His folksy Christian charm masks some of the most evil, bigoted opinions out there. His Fox News program is like watching an episode of Hee Haw meets 60 minutes and certainly vies for the title of least informative program on the air. I made the mistake of listening to him interview Tony Perkins yesterday and together their defaming of the Souther Poverty Law Centre was one of the most frustrating things I have ever heard.
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Only The Lurker Knows Mon, Aug 20, 2012 6:02:08pm |
Night Lizards. May the Deity of Your Choice Smile Down Upon You.
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Sionainn Mon, Aug 20, 2012 6:17:32pm |
re: #279 Kragar
Santorum: Obamacare Is Forcing Catholics Into Confession
Fuck off, Frothy.
I wonder how many Catholic women who use birth control actually go to confession regarding that.
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labman57 Mon, Aug 20, 2012 6:23:16pm |
If this Breitbart-fawning buffoon wants to fall on her sword defending the troglodyte Akin, so be it.
That flushing sound you hear is any remaining credibility that she might have had as a sound-minded, rationally-thinking political commentator going down the drain.
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Lidane Mon, Aug 20, 2012 6:27:30pm |
re: #312 labman57
That's just it -- she's never had any credibility as a sound-minded, rationally-thinking political commentator.
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What, me worry? Mon, Aug 20, 2012 6:35:02pm |
re: #305 Shiplord Kirel
Not odd at all. It is no more absurd than Huckabee's quite incredible statement about the results of rape but the latter is absolutely genuine.
Sometimes I get the feeling I'll start screaming and never stop.
So much to say about Huckabee's idiocy, but how about this. Robison was born in 1943. Ethel Waters in 1896. Just where would these mothers go for an abortion other than a dark alley? And a Black woman? Would she just... oh I don't know... saunter into the nearest hospital requesting one? She didn't even have the vote!!
On the bright side, if you're a colossal moron like Akin, you probably want an even bigger, shittier moron defending you.
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JRCMYP Mon, Aug 20, 2012 6:45:53pm |
I've never seen a picture of her until just now. What is she, 12? Maybe 15? Does she have children? Has she lived a life even a little? And why do people listen to her?
As a mother of three and some years behind me, I look at her and think "walk in my shoes, little girl. And are you available for babysitting?"
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JRCMYP Mon, Aug 20, 2012 6:50:28pm |
re: #58 Gus
The first ad from the Obama camp is going to be brutal. It's going to include the sound bite, images of Paul Ryan and Todd Akin together, perhaps some other things Romney himself has said about banning abortion.
As well he should. I have no interest in pretending that this isn't a legitimate issue even if someone wants to say "hey, lookie over here! Economy!" They aren't mutually exclusive. In fact, I would expect candidates that were really concerned with the economy and the wallets of the average American (ahem, Obama) would be advocating policies that actually address those issues.
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Cap'n Magic Mon, Aug 20, 2012 7:33:10pm |
re: #52 Gus
That's why Dems should fund his campaign. ratfsck the GOP!
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The Mongoose Tue, Aug 21, 2012 11:02:54am |
re: #315 JRCMYP
I've never seen a picture of her until just now. What is she, 12? Maybe 15? Does she have children? Has she lived a life even a little? And why do people listen to her?
As a mother of three and some years behind me, I look at her and think "walk in my shoes, little girl. And are you available for babysitting?"
She's 33 and has two children. I think attacking her ideas would be a better approach. Defending Todd Akin is stupid no matter how many kids you have or what year you were born.
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Patricia Kayden Tue, Aug 21, 2012 4:15:43pm |
What a nightmare if Akin wins and Romney/Ryan win as well. What a nightmare for womens rights, to say the least.
Dana Loesch is an idiot. There is nothing a Republican could do that would make her condemn him/her. Hyper partisanship to a fault.
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