National Review Goes Full Caveman: ‘Men Select Mates for Fertility, Women Select for Status’

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You’re going to have to search a long time to find a right wing article as mind-bogglingly ridiculous as this crazy caveman piece by Kevin D. Williamson at National Review today: Like a Boss.

If this were at The Onion, there’d be no doubt that it was a parody. But this testosterone-drenched article lavishing praise on the manly manliness of Mitt Romney is totally serious.

They’re beyond parody.

What do women want? The conventional biological wisdom is that men select mates for fertility, while women select for status — thus the commonness of younger women’s pairing with well-established older men but the rarity of the converse. The Demi Moore–Ashton Kutcher model is an exception — the only 40-year-old woman Jack Nicholson has ever seen naked is Kathy Bates in that horrific hot-tub scene. Age is cruel to women, and subordination is cruel to men. Ellen Kullman is a very pretty woman, but at 56 years of age she probably would not turn a lot of heads in a college bar, and the fact that she is the chairman and CEO of Dupont isn’t going to change that.

[…]

Have a gander at that Romney family picture: five sons, zero daughters. Romney has 18 grandchildren, and they exceed a 2:1 ratio of grandsons to granddaughters (13:5). When they go to church at their summer-vacation home, the Romney clan makes up a third of the congregation. He is basically a tribal chieftain.

Professor Obama? Two daughters. May as well give the guy a cardigan. And fallopian tubes.

From an evolutionary point of view, Mitt Romney should get 100 percent of the female vote. All of it. He should get Michelle Obama’s vote. You can insert your own Mormon polygamy joke here, but the ladies do tend to flock to successful executives and entrepreneurs.

If you can stand it, read the whole thing. You’ll never see a clearer depiction of right wing values, and it’s not a pretty picture.

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65 comments
1 AK-47%  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 11:47:59am

GOP, experts on how lady parts work and where they belong...

2 erik_t  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 11:48:31am

Well that's a, uh, different sort of starburst you're seeing there, Mr. Williamson.

3 Kragar  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 11:49:12am

I guarantee you that NRO has no idea of where "Like a Boss" actually came from.

4 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 11:49:26am

It's a funny thing, but my most "alpha" son (out of 6 sons) has 4 daughters.

5 Locker  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 11:49:50am

The biological selection part is fine... all of his whacko conclusions from this tiny piece of information are not fine.

6 engineer cat  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 11:50:44am

From an evolutionary point of view, Mitt Romney should get 100 percent of the female vote

having spent many decades finding out how little i know about "what women want", i award mr williamson a beginner's badge and six free getting-hit-over-the-head lessons

7 Lidane  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 11:50:49am

I agree with ABL:

8 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 11:54:39am

Professor Obama? Two daughters. May as well give the guy a cardigan. And fallopian tubes.

George Washington had no children at all. What a girly man.

9 erik_t  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 11:55:37am

re: #8 SanFranciscoZionist

President Bush? Two daughters. May as well give the guy a cardigan. And fallopian tubes.

FTFHim.

10 Bulworth  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 11:58:12am

Finally, a #Winning argument on behalf of the GOPTeabag candidate--he's got six BOYS, the soshulist kenyan has 2 little girls.

All bow to this mighty rationale.
//

11 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 11:58:26am

Can't read it. "This NRO Section Is Currently Offline".

12 Kragar  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 11:58:53am
13 Bulworth  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 11:59:24am

re: #8 SanFranciscoZionist

Professor Obama? Two daughters. May as well give the guy a cardigan. And fallopian tubes.

George Washington had no children at all. What a girly man.

YOU LIE! (looks for David Barton book on GW about the stable of masculine sons the Father of our nation left behind....)

14 dragonfire1981  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 11:59:49am

Link already dead.

15 Bulworth  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 12:00:19pm

re: #14 dragonfire1981

Link already dead.

Damn librul media has forced NRO to take it down I bet.

16 makeitstop  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 12:01:42pm

Hear that high whining sound?

That's Bill Buckley doing about 7800 RPM in his grave.

And they can't even stand behind what they publish. Fucking joke.

17 Gus  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 12:02:32pm

re: #15 Bulworth

Damn librul media has forced NRO to take it down I bet.

Elitist librul media.

18 Kragar  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 12:02:59pm

re: #13 Bulworth

Speaking of Dave...

Pseudo-Historians Unite: David Barton and Scott Lively use Fake Scholarship to Disguise their Extremist Views

David Barton defends his junk history by pointing to an anonymous group of academics who apparently approve of his “scholarship” while simultaneously saying that people can trust his work because the liberal, secular, academic elite doesn’t approve of it. While Barton refuses to name anyone from his supposed gaggle of admirers in academia, he is touting the support of a fellow pseudo-historian: Scott Lively, who blames the Holocaust on the gay community.

That’s right, Barton, who has the ear of Republican politicians and is helping to write the Republican Party platform, is touting the endorsement of someone who thinks gays brought about the Holocaust.

19 engineer cat  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 12:03:06pm

this moron thinks and writes like a frat boy

20 engineer cat  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 12:04:01pm

from an evolutionary point of view mitt romney should get a minivan

21 Lidane  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 12:04:07pm

re: #15 Bulworth

Damn librul media has forced NRO to take it down I bet.

NRO: Still Failing to Understand Teh Internetz

I suppose it hasn't dawned on them that people would have taken screenshots or otherwise preserved the article somehow even if NRO takes it down.

22 Gus  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 12:06:07pm

OK. It's back up.

[Link: www.nationalreview.com...]

23 AK-47%  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 12:06:17pm

re: #13 Bulworth

YOU LIE! (looks for David Barton book on GW about the stable of masculine sons the Father of our nation left behind....)

These "stats" area also based only on recognized legitimate children (and not the ones that came from any sort of "legitimate" rape or coercion)...

Cavemen in white sheets...

24 Targetpractice  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 12:06:39pm

Who the frak wrote this, Henry VIII?

25 alinuxguru  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 12:07:02pm

re: #14 dragonfire1981

[Link: www.nationalreview.com...]

26 Kragar  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 12:07:23pm

Report: GOP’s Rivera Ran Democratic Primary Shadow Campaign

Rep. David Rivera (R-FL) helped run a shadow campaign for a primary challenger for his Democratic opponent using $43,000 in secret money, the Miami Herald reports.

Campaign vendors said that Rivera helped orchestrate a mail campaign on behalf of Justin Lamar Sternad, who was campaigning against Democratic candidate Joe Garcia. From the Herald:

Interviews with campaign sources, invoices, campaign records and other documents show that Rivera personally and frequently called Rapid Mail about Sternad’s mailers. During one call, Rivera directed an employee to walk outside, check the office mailbox for an envelope containing payment for one mailer, the sources said.

The envelope was stuffed with cash — $7,800.

According to the Miami New Times, Sternard’s campaign was run by Ana Alliegro, a GOP operative connected to Rivera.

27 Big Joe  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 12:07:36pm

Still dead.
Like a boss.
Own it, National Review.

They got embarrassed and took it down.

28 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 12:07:37pm

re: #24 Targetpractice

Who the frak wrote this, Henry VIII?

A man who only managed one son himself...and two daughters. Out of six wives.

29 Lidane  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 12:07:52pm

re: #24 Targetpractice

Who the frak wrote this, Henry VIII?

Nope. Og's less evolved cousin Ook. He's the dimwit in the caveman clan.

30 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 12:08:08pm

re: #24 Targetpractice

Who the frak wrote this, Henry VIII?

Tsar Nicholas II.

31 AK-47%  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 12:08:47pm

re: #30 Learned Mother of Zion

Tsar Nicholas II.

He had four daughters and only one son, a haemophiliac...

32 Gus  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 12:08:50pm

Just in case it does disappear here it in text form. Just uploaded it:

[Link: textuploader.com...]

33 Big Joe  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 12:09:03pm

They seem to be having problems, got a bunch of script then the NRO page and the headline worked that time.

34 Targetpractice  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 12:09:33pm

re: #31 Expand Your Ground

He had four daughters and only one son, a haemophiliac...

Yeah, inbreeding tends to cause problems like that to crop up.

35 erik_t  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 12:09:48pm

This article is changing publication status more often than Mitt Romney changes [fill in the blank].

36 Sionainn  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 12:09:57pm

re: #27 Big Joe

Still dead.
Like a boss.
Own it, National Review.

They got embarrassed and took it down.

It just came up for me.

37 Gus  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 12:10:57pm

re: #36 Sionainn

It just came up for me.

Yeah. It's back up. Was doing the same thing this morning.

38 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 12:10:59pm

I can't help but read this in the voice of J.K. Simmons (in Portal 2 as Cave Johnson)

39 Eventual Carrion  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 12:12:45pm

re: #31 Expand Your Ground

He had four daughters and only one son, a haemophiliac...

and a crazy "physician" for him.

40 blueraven  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 12:15:10pm

re: #8 SanFranciscoZionist

Professor Obama? Two daughters. May as well give the guy a cardigan. And fallopian tubes.

George Washington had no children at all. What a girly man.

George W Bush? Dick Cheney? Richard Nixon?

41 Sionainn  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 12:15:34pm
42 Bulworth  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 12:15:49pm

re: #40 blueraven

George W Bush? Dick Cheney? Richard Nixon?

Personal attacks! /

43 abolitionist  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 12:17:08pm

GOP platform clarification please: If Caveman wants to be a daddy, will he have to wait for Blondie to wake up before plowing the field?

Focused on jobs like a laser beam. //

44 Gus  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 12:17:09pm

Science!

45 calochortus  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 12:17:10pm

There's just a very slight logical problem with his thesis-just for the sake of argument let's agree that powerful men have more sons. Of what particular advantage is it to me as a woman to have more sons? I can only be sure of the parentage of my daughter's children (and the presence of a maternal grandmother, but not a paternal one, does raise the survival rate of children in traditional societies.)
And then there's the little tiny issue of whether women can tell the difference between a potential mate and a potential political leader.

46 dragonfire1981  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 12:17:49pm

It's offline again. I wonder if the LGF traffic is crashing it?

I did manage to grab this tidbit before it went down:

Saleh al-Rajhi, billionaire banker, left behind 61 children when he cashed out last year. We don’t do harems here, of course, but Romney is exactly the kind of guy who in another time and place would have the option of maintaining one. He’s a boss. Given that we are no longer roaming the veldt for the most part, money is a reasonable stand-in for social status. Romney’s net worth is more than that of the last eight U.S. presidents combined. He set up a trust for his grandkids and kicked in about seven times Barack Obama’s net worth, which at $11.8 million is not inconsiderable but probably less than Romney’s tax bill in a good year. If he hadn’t given away so much money to his church, charities, and grandkids, Mitt Romney would have more money than Jay-Z.

It is time for Mitt Romney to get in touch with his inner rich guy.

Wow.

47 Lidane  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 12:20:21pm
It is time for Mitt Romney to get in touch with his inner rich guy.

I'm fairly sure that Mitt Romney's biggest problem so far is that he's so in touch with his inner rich guy that no one really likes him.

48 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 12:20:24pm

re: #43 abolitionist

GOP platform clarification please: If Caveman wants to be a daddy, will he have to wait for Blondie to wake up before plowing the field?

You've got it backwards. If he becomes a daddy (i.e. Blondie gets preggers), that means it was not a legitimate rape. Therefore, he retroactively did not have to wait for her to wake up.

49 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 12:20:33pm

re: #46 dragonfire1981

It's offline again. I wonder if the LGF traffic is crashing it?

I did manage to grab this tidbit before it went down:

Wow.

I have 6 sons and 17 grandsons, and Zedushka is not anywhere near rich. In fact he is a stay-at-home old man and I am the one who is supporting him.

50 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 12:21:45pm

Ah, yes, well, I would bet that Romney would have been delighted to have a daughter or two.

Less broken furniture that way.

(Mr. Emmmieg had a pleasant time repairing the bunkbed last night.)

51 Sionainn  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 12:23:40pm

re: #46 dragonfire1981

It's offline again. I wonder if the LGF traffic is crashing it?

I did manage to grab this tidbit before it went down:

Wow.

Doesn't Jay-Z have a girl, too? /

52 wrenchwench  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 12:26:11pm

The great thing about being really bad at science is that you can use it and abuse it to back up whatever moronic point you want. He quotes the same study, but gives it a new title:

Yes, Chicks Dig Jerks
And evolutionary science gives us a good idea why.

By Kevin D. Williamson

[...]

All of which is to say that there is good evidence and good theory behind the belief that chicks dig jerks — mildly psychopathic men with lots of testosterone and little empathy.

[...]

53 JeffM70  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 12:26:14pm

Thomas Jefferson had only daughters. George Washington had none. Madison had a step-son but no biological children. Ah! Our country was founded by squishes!

54 AK-47%  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 12:30:39pm

re: #43 abolitionist

GOP platform clarification please: If Caveman wants to be a daddy, will he have to wait for Blondie to wake up before plowing the field?

Focused on jobs like a laser beam. //

You do know why the caveman drags her back to the cave by her hair?

-So she doesn't fill up with sand!

55 Charleston Chew  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 12:44:38pm
From an evolutionary point of view, Mitt Romney should get 100 percent of the female vote. All of it

This is just another example of conservative exasperation over reality failing to conform to their belief system. And their solution is always, "Must believe harder!"

56 abolitionist  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 12:45:16pm

re: #48 What Would Spalding Gray Do?

You've got it backwards. If he becomes a daddy (i.e. Blondie gets preggers), that means it was not a legitimate rape. Therefore, he retroactively did not have to wait for her to wake up.

And she must have enjoyed it, retroactively, despite being unconcious at the time, because she's been blessed. Praise the Lord!

57 efuseakay  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 12:46:13pm

re: #45 calochortus

There's just a very slight logical problem with his thesis-just for the sake of argument let's agree that powerful men have more sons. Of what particular advantage is it to me as a woman to have more sons? I can only be sure of the parentage of my daughter's children (and the presence of a maternal grandmother, but not a paternal one, does raise the survival rate of children in traditional societies.)
And then there's the little tiny issue of whether women can tell the difference between a potential mate and a potential political leader.

You're a woman. Who cares what you think.

Love,
GOP

58 efuseakay  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 12:57:22pm

Check this out from a Texas judge. UN INVASION! CIVIL WAR!

[Link: dfw.cbslocal.com...]

59 b_sharp  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 1:08:35pm

re: #36 Sionainn

It just came up for me.

I said that to my wife just this morning.

60 MittDoesNotCompute  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 1:09:34pm

re: #3 Kragar

I guarantee you that NRO has no idea of where "Like a Boss" actually came from.

[Embedded content]

I was thinking the same thing.

Straight-laced, whitebread shitheads trying to appropriate pop culture references for their own ends, without one iota of a clue.

61 Prideful, Arrogant Marriage Equality Advocate  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 3:25:21pm

re: #59 b_sharp

Signed it just so i could up ding that!

62 funky chicken  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 3:56:56pm

Gus posted this on an earlier thread:

Pilot and astronaut offspring: possible G-force effects on human sex ratio.

Abstract

Ratio of male to female offspring in tactical pilots and astronauts who experienced G forces was compared to that of pilots and non-rated officers who were not exposed to such conditions. In the analysis presented here we found 62 pilots and astronauts exposed to higher G forces had a significantly lower ratio of males to females in their offspring (.40) than did 220 pilots and non-pilots who were not exposed to high G forces. Other studies have also reported a decreased sex ratio in offspring of men exposed to high G forces. Reduction in number of males produced by fathers routinely exposed to comparatively high-G stresses may be related to G-force effects on sperm. This study suggests high-G exposure may affect the reproduction process.

Yep, too bad those fighter pilots and astronauts aren't real men like Mitt Romney, or they'd have lots of sons too! Since having lots of sons is the best outcome of mating, right National Review?

63 Patricia Kayden  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 6:10:49pm

So the second Bush President was a wuss? No boys (that I know of).

And every woman, even Michelle Obama, should be so impressed by a man who inherited his wealth that we all should vote for him? Right. Let's forget about his compliance with the Republican war against women.

I'm sure Michelle is much more impressed by her hubby who worked his way up and comes from a humble background. I know I am.

64 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 7:23:03pm

I really wish I didn't have to say this, but honesty compels me: The story this thread references isn't just an online article, its the cover article of National Review's current issue. So they can't disown it, as its already in print.

65 Lidane  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 8:09:34pm

re: #64 Dark_Falcon

I really wish I didn't have to say this, but honesty compels me: The story this thread references isn't just an online article, its the cover article of National Review's current issue. So they can't disown it, as its already in print.

They couldn't disown it even if it was just online. The internet is forever, and even if NR had deleted it from their website, people will have archived it or otherwise preserved it for all to see.


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