I can add nothing to Nancy Pelosi’s astute assessment of the situation:
What the congressman from Missouri has done, though, she says, has shown that’s not the case – and made him “the doggie doo on the shoe of his party, the tattoo on Paul Ryan that they won’t be able to get off.’’
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MittDoesNotCompute Thu, Aug 23, 2012 6:28:22pm |
It's all true...and the TPGOP smoke-and-mirrors MBF machine is going to be working double OT on this
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researchok Thu, Aug 23, 2012 6:29:30pm |
I don't care much for Pelosi, but in this instance, she's right.
I would add Akin is dog crap and skunk piss on the GOP shoes
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HappyWarrior Thu, Aug 23, 2012 6:30:18pm |
More like horse shit but I get Pelosi's point.
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The Ghost of a Flea Thu, Aug 23, 2012 6:32:59pm |
(The shoe is also full of dog shit.)
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jaunte Thu, Aug 23, 2012 6:53:05pm |
The shoe is made of dog shit. Akin just scuffed off the shiny covering.
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We have a revenue crisis, NOT a deficit crisis. Tax cuts for the rich & wealthy corporations worsened the Wall Street & Bank Disaster.#CTL
— Terrence (@IrishinNOLA) August 24, 2012
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sorry, but nothing is really ot in this election season.
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Gus Thu, Aug 23, 2012 6:57:29pm |
OT... Well. Lance Armstrong just gave up fighting doping charges. It's official I guess.
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jaunte Thu, Aug 23, 2012 6:59:26pm |
Second Local Station Says Romney Camp Asked For No Akin Questions
No dog questions, either.
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freetoken Thu, Aug 23, 2012 7:00:18pm |
re: #10 Gus
This gives me a chance to get on one of my soapboxes:
So what if an athlete finds some way to enhancer her/his performance? The idea of banning "substances", if pressed to its exhaustive coverage, would also include making sure each competitor gets the same food and medical coverage. After all, is it fair that some people can afford better food than others, or can afford better medical care than others?
This idea of banning "substances" is to me just an extension of the idiotic "War on Drugs".
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Lidane Thu, Aug 23, 2012 7:01:29pm |
re: #6 jaunte
The shoe is made of dog shit. Akin just scuffed off the shiny covering.
Yeah, this. Akin didn't do anything except articulate the GOP's real feelings out loud.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, Aug 23, 2012 7:06:29pm |
re: #12 freetoken
This gives me a chance to get on one of my soapboxes:
So what if an athlete finds some way to enhancer her/his performance? The idea of banning "substances", if pressed to its exhaustive coverage, would also include making sure each competitor gets the same food and medical coverage. After all, is it fair that some people can afford better food than others, or can afford better medical care than others?
This idea of banning "substances" is to me just an extension of the idiotic "War on Drugs".
I guess. Free for all. Still, some won't be able to afford the steroids, or the really really good sterioids. And some will.
Interesting take though.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, Aug 23, 2012 7:09:52pm |
I mentioned this downstairs. The newest thing is to hide behind "religious privilege" Separation of Church and State? Kaput.
NEW AT #ABLC: Mitt Romney Now Claims He is Hiding His Tax Returns Because of God bit.ly/O7elnA by @angryblacklady #p2 #TFY
— Imani ABL (@AngryBlackLady) August 24, 2012
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Varek Raith Thu, Aug 23, 2012 7:11:55pm |
re: #17 Stanley Sea
I mentioned this downstairs. The newest thing is to hide behind "religious privilege" Separation of Church and State? Kaput.
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Lol.
You’re not concerned about your tithing remaining private. You’re concerned about the fact that you’re a goddamn killer robot remaining private.
I’m on to you, buddy.
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HappyWarrior Thu, Aug 23, 2012 7:12:56pm |
re: #17 Stanley Sea
I mentioned this downstairs. The newest thing is to hide behind "religious privilege" Separation of Church and State? Kaput.
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He looks more and more pathetic. Really, he just keeps on looking worse and worse the more he stalls.
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jaunte Thu, Aug 23, 2012 7:14:27pm |
re: #17 Stanley Sea
And by the way? You can’t send your wife out to talk about how super awesome and honest you are, and have her gush abut how you give ten percent of your income to the LDS Church and then two weeks later claim that you want to keep the amount you donate to the church private because of Jesus.
No fair!
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Varek Raith Thu, Aug 23, 2012 7:15:16pm |
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Petero1818 Thu, Aug 23, 2012 7:16:34pm |
re: #17 Stanley Sea
I mentioned this downstairs. The newest thing is to hide behind "religious privilege" Separation of Church and State? Kaput.
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Is it possible that what Mitt is actually hiding is that he has not given 10% of his income to the LDS over the years, and he will be humiliated in his own community. Failure to tithe particularly for someone as wealthy as Romney would be quite an embarrassment.
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HappyWarrior Thu, Aug 23, 2012 7:20:35pm |
I really am wondering if he does have something to hide. Something illegal, something embarrassing, I dunno. The fact that he's gone against precedent for both parties and that he still continues to refuse to release them as pressure mounts really makes me think there's something that stinks in there that he doesn't want the public knowing about.
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Petero1818 Thu, Aug 23, 2012 7:22:09pm |
re: #24 HappyWarrior
I really am wondering if he does have something to hide. Something illegal, something embarrassing, I dunno. The fact that he's gone against precedent for both parties and that he still continues to refuse to release them as pressure mounts really makes me think there's something that stinks in there that he doesn't want the public knowing about.
One of three things I think:
1. Years of paying far below 15%. (legally)
2. Received Amnesty for swiss bank account
3. Did not tithe the full amount he should have
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Sheila Broflovski Thu, Aug 23, 2012 7:22:50pm |
re: #25 Petero1818
One of three things I think:
1. Years of paying far below 15%. (legally)
2. Received Amnesty for swiss bank account
3. Did not tithe the full amount he should have
Could be all three, they are not mutually exclusive.
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Petero1818 Thu, Aug 23, 2012 7:23:23pm |
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HappyWarrior Thu, Aug 23, 2012 7:25:08pm |
re: #25 Petero1818
One of three things I think:
1. Years of paying far below 15%. (legally)
2. Received Amnesty for swiss bank account
3. Did not tithe the full amount he should have
Definitely a possibility.
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Petero1818 Thu, Aug 23, 2012 7:28:01pm |
I really hate the fact that Mitt refers to tithing as being like paying taxes. According to the LDS website
"Tithing funds are used for:
Constructing temples, chapels, and other buildings.
Providing operating funds for the Church.
Funding the missionary program (This does not include individual missionary expenses.)
Preparing materials used in Church classes and organizations.
Temple work, family history, and many other important Church functions.
Education."
I fail to see how any of that is for the benefit of the country generally.
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allegro Thu, Aug 23, 2012 7:28:41pm |
re: #12 freetoken
This gives me a chance to get on one of my soapboxes:
So what if an athlete finds some way to enhancer her/his performance? The idea of banning "substances", if pressed to its exhaustive coverage, would also include making sure each competitor gets the same food and medical coverage. After all, is it fair that some people can afford better food than others, or can afford better medical care than others?
This idea of banning "substances" is to me just an extension of the idiotic "War on Drugs".
I agree with the no steroids thing. They are dangerous, not only for the athletes but for the people around them because of the rage issues the steroids cause/contribute to. If steroids are allowed then in order for any athlete to be able to compete he/she will also have to do them. Pro athletes in a lot of sports get their bodies torn up enough and pay for it for their lifetimes. Dying young(er) due to steroid use isn't helpful to them or their sports.
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Reverend Mother Ramallo Thu, Aug 23, 2012 7:28:48pm |
re: #12 freetoken
Probably, the justification being that kids will emulate their role models and become giant roid-beasts.
But who didn't suspect say, Jerry McGuire, was roided out? No one cared until it became someone's mission in life to knock these athletes off of their high horses.
It feels more like a witch hunt, a really expensive, waste of time, because it stops nothing. It's just going to be harder to detect the new stuff.
IMHO
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Aug 23, 2012 7:29:33pm |
re: #29 Petero1818
I really hate the fact that Mitt refers to tithing as being like paying taxes. According to the LDS website
"Tithing funds are used for:
Constructing temples, chapels, and other buildings.
Providing operating funds for the Church.
Funding the missionary program (This does not include individual missionary expenses.)
Preparing materials used in Church classes and organizations.
Temple work, family history, and many other important Church functions.
Education."I fail to see how any of that is for the benefit of the country generally.
Mitt's being weird. Giving money to your church is a good thing. It does not count as taxes.
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Petero1818 Thu, Aug 23, 2012 7:30:56pm |
re: #32 SanFranciscoZionist
but he should be called on it when he says it.
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The Ghost of a Flea Thu, Aug 23, 2012 7:31:07pm |
re: #29 Petero1818
I really hate the fact that Mitt refers to tithing as being like paying taxes. According to the LDS website
"Tithing funds are used for:
Constructing temples, chapels, and other buildings.
Providing operating funds for the Church.
Funding the missionary program (This does not include individual missionary expenses.)
Preparing materials used in Church classes and organizations.
Temple work, family history, and many other important Church functions.
Education."I fail to see how any of that is for the benefit of the country generally.
Consider that the major base element that Romney has to appease are a competing, aggressively-proselytizing Christian sect. He may not want to shine a light on tithing because it drives that home.
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compound_Idaho Thu, Aug 23, 2012 7:34:03pm |
re: #12 freetoken
This gives me a chance to get on one of my soapboxes:
So what if an athlete finds some way to enhancer her/his performance? The idea of banning "substances", if pressed to its exhaustive coverage, would also include making sure each competitor gets the same food and medical coverage. After all, is it fair that some people can afford better food than others, or can afford better medical care than others?
This idea of banning "substances" is to me just an extension of the idiotic "War on Drugs".
I'm guessing you are not an athlete. My 18 yr old son has walk on tryouts for college baseball in two weeks. He knows he will be competing against users.
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HappyWarrior Thu, Aug 23, 2012 7:35:13pm |
I think all this really has shed light on why even with loads of personal wealth and wealthy supporters that Mitt Romney at his core is a weak candidate. He's not charismatic or likable at all and that's being kind. He's had to go back on the past stances that made him a viable candidate when he first ran for and got into office in the first place because he would rather change his mind than have to explain to an increasingly right wing Republican base why abortion should be legal, why government health care can be a positive thing, etc. And then there's his business record. He wants to be seen as a job creator and successful businessman but at the same time he gets irate when his business record is being analyzed. He's just not the kind of guy you want running your country. How sad is it that Norquist has basically said he wants Mitt to be a puppet for Ryan and the true believers. In a way I almost feel bad for Mitt because he had to sell out a ton to become so viable but then again it's hard to feel bad for him when he engages in some of the rhetoric that he engages in.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Aug 23, 2012 7:35:39pm |
re: #35 compound_Idaho
I'm guessing you are not an athlete. My 18 yr old son has walk on tryouts for college baseball in two weeks. He knows he will be competing against users.
May I ask his position?
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Reverend Mother Ramallo Thu, Aug 23, 2012 7:35:47pm |
re: #30 allegro
I don't disagree.
Show student athletes pics of Lyle Alzado before and after. Make it harder to purchase the stuff.
But the fact remains that people who want to dope will dope.
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Gus Thu, Aug 23, 2012 7:36:01pm |
OK. Left a comment for "War on Music." I was nice. Remember! Diplomacy before war! //
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Aug 23, 2012 7:36:02pm |
re: #12 freetoken
This gives me a chance to get on one of my soapboxes:
So what if an athlete finds some way to enhancer her/his performance? The idea of banning "substances", if pressed to its exhaustive coverage, would also include making sure each competitor gets the same food and medical coverage. After all, is it fair that some people can afford better food than others, or can afford better medical care than others?
This idea of banning "substances" is to me just an extension of the idiotic "War on Drugs".
I am for banning any substance that if, taken long-term, would cause damage to the athlete. Anabolic steroids fall into this pattern.
No athlete should be pushed into a position of harming his or herself to compete effectively.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, Aug 23, 2012 7:36:18pm |
re: #24 HappyWarrior
I really am wondering if he does have something to hide. Something illegal, something embarrassing, I dunno. The fact that he's gone against precedent for both parties and that he still continues to refuse to release them as pressure mounts really makes me think there's something that stinks in there that he doesn't want the public knowing about.
I vote terribly embarrassing.
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freetoken Thu, Aug 23, 2012 7:36:36pm |
re: #32 SanFranciscoZionist
Mitt's being weird. Giving money to your church is a good thing. It does not count as taxes.
It's not "weird", according to various beliefs common with fundamentalist theists. The idea goes like this: the only authority a government has legitimately must come from God. Thus if a government is to collect money morally, one must find a Biblical basis for it.
In this view, government operations like welfare is justifiable only if it is seen in the light of doing what God has commanded the Church (read "Israel") to do.
This view looks upon the Mosaic law's tithing commands as a "tax". Thus this sets up the equation tax=tithe.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Aug 23, 2012 7:37:02pm |
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HappyWarrior Thu, Aug 23, 2012 7:37:05pm |
re: #41 Stanley Sea
I vote terribly embarrassing.
Something like the fetus disposal company that Bain invested in?
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SteveMcG Thu, Aug 23, 2012 7:37:12pm |
I can't believe that in the doping debate, I've never heard anybody mention the word sportsmanship. Using PED's is against the very nature of playing games.
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nines09 Thu, Aug 23, 2012 7:37:30pm |
re: #12 freetoken
This gives me a chance to get on one of my soapboxes:
So what if an athlete finds some way to enhancer her/his performance? The idea of banning "substances", if pressed to its exhaustive coverage, would also include making sure each competitor gets the same food and medical coverage. After all, is it fair that some people can afford better food than others, or can afford better medical care than others?
This idea of banning "substances" is to me just an extension of the idiotic "War on Drugs".
When I hear "Let them take whatever they want! They're professionals!" all I can think of is my kid or your kid being fortunate enough to maybe have a shot at being a "professional" athlete at some endeavor, having to take something that eventually will lead to damage or worse, just to level the playing field, because everybody else is doing it. Just like the MLB home run blizzard and the mass amnesia of the entire sporting world. Only later did the league even start to admit there was a problem. I don't want any kid thinking they have to "juice" or worse to have a shot. If that happens, it's no longer sports, but engineering. I'll step off my soapbox now. Nite all.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Aug 23, 2012 7:37:55pm |
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compound_Idaho Thu, Aug 23, 2012 7:38:18pm |
re: #37 Cannadian Club Akbar
3rd and catcher. He prefers 3rd. I think he is better at catch.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, Aug 23, 2012 7:38:21pm |
re: #33 Petero1818
but he should be called on it when he says it.
Yeah, no questions Mitt. Cannot WAIT for the debates. Will Candy Crowley ask the women questions too?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Aug 23, 2012 7:38:47pm |
I thought this threat was about Nancy and Akin. My bad.
/
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Aug 23, 2012 7:40:11pm |
re: #48 compound_Idaho
3rd and catcher. He prefers 3rd. I think he is better at catch.
Catch kills the knees. 3rd is good if you hit .300 and 30HR/100RBI (in the bigs)
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, Aug 23, 2012 7:40:52pm |
re: #44 HappyWarrior
Something like the fetus disposal company that Bain invested in?
Ya, but what will freaking STICK? Fetus disposal has been forgotten.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Aug 23, 2012 7:41:08pm |
re: #32 SanFranciscoZionist
Mitt's being weird. Giving money to your church is a good thing. It does not count as taxes.
The LDS church is routinely attacked for being "too rich."
As the person who sits in a kept-up building and takes my kids to the youth programs, I'm good with spending my tithing money on that, even if we might pay more into the program than we would if it were pay-per-kid rather than a percentage of your income. If I'm paying for some buildings and some youth programs in inner-city wards, I'm okay with that. In fact, I hope I do pay more in than I get out.
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HappyWarrior Thu, Aug 23, 2012 7:41:55pm |
re: #52 Stanley Sea
Ya, but what will freaking STICK? Fetus disposal has been forgotten.
Something involving a dictatorship perhaps? You're right though. That has been forgotten even though if it had been Obama, we'd be hearing all about how Obama was a fetus murderer and engaged in blood money.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Aug 23, 2012 7:43:04pm |
re: #53 Mostly sane, most of the time.
The LDS has a % of around 95 that actually goes to the needy. Unlike those with "overhead cost". Others might learn a lesson from them.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Aug 23, 2012 7:44:06pm |
People are stoopid and that one guy smells.
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Reverend Mother Ramallo Thu, Aug 23, 2012 7:48:04pm |
re: #52 Stanley Sea
Heh.
What's gonna be the poo on Mitt Romney's shoe?
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Aug 23, 2012 7:48:54pm |
re: #56 Cannadian Club Akbar
People are stoopid and that one guy smells.
I've always thought that if I were to go into the past and tell them about all the great labor-saving devices we have, and how much time we have freed up, they would be disappointed to know how we spend it.
Then again, I doubt humans have changed that much.
Then again, people traveled miles and stood for three hours in the heat or cold to hear the Lincoln-Douglas debates.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Aug 23, 2012 7:48:54pm |
re: #55 Cannadian Club Akbar
The LDS has a % of around 95 that actually goes to the needy. Unlike those with "overhead cost". Others might learn a lesson from them.
Well, well well. From a liberal site...
[Link: theview.abc.go.com...]
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Kragar Thu, Aug 23, 2012 7:49:11pm |
GOPers only invoke Reagan's 11th commandment to stop conservatives from criticizing moderate Rs, never other way round.— Bryan Fischer (@BryanJFischer) August 23, 2012
When it comes to the GOP dogpile on Todd Akin, Republicans apparently never even heard of Reagan's 11th commandment.— Bryan Fischer (@BryanJFischer) August 23, 2012
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Aug 23, 2012 7:50:54pm |
re: #60 Kragar
That guy is the poster child for DERP.
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Interesting Times Thu, Aug 23, 2012 7:51:11pm |
Mitt Romney could be nominated early in convention week due to concerns about Ron Paul, tropical storm: apne.ws/Oc3jzs -RJJ— The Associated Press (@AP) August 24, 2012
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Aug 23, 2012 7:51:40pm |
re: #59 Cannadian Club Akbar
Well, well well. From a liberal site...
[Link: theview.abc.go.com...]
When you can ask people to volunteer for free, you can do that. However, I can tell you, people like to have a calling like that. My mother loved her calling with LDS Humanitarian.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Aug 23, 2012 7:53:38pm |
re: #63 Mostly sane, most of the time.
When you can ask people to volunteer for free, you can do that. However, I can tell you, people like to have a calling like that. My mother loved her calling with LDS Humanitarian.
BYU and Utah Sate (correct me if I am wrong) ask their Grads to do God's work. And they do (See Steve Young) Am I incorrect?
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HappyWarrior Thu, Aug 23, 2012 7:53:41pm |
re: #60 Kragar
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And yet he'll stay with the Republicans because he knows if he won't get his bread buttered if he leaves them. Really says a lot about him and Akin that he's trying to make Akin a victim. Hell the stupid fucker even compared Akin to a rape victim a couple days back. Yeah because having people criticize you after you say something stupid is just like being violently attacked. I guess that's what happens when you're Bryan Fischer and paranoid as shit. The guy needs severe psychiatric help.
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compound_Idaho Thu, Aug 23, 2012 7:54:10pm |
re: #51 Cannadian Club Akbar
Catch kills the knees. 3rd is good if you hit .300 and 30HR/100RBI (in the bigs)
I don't mean to sell his skills short. He is a good player. But between you and me, he probably doesn't have what it takes to play; even at a small school level. I told him when he was young he could play baseball at any level until he was told no, "get off the field". I just dropped him off today at an NAIA school this morning. Tryouts 9/4. You will never meet anyone with more love for just playing the game.
If he makes the team, drinks are on me. I'll even some of you I think are jerks!
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Interesting Times Thu, Aug 23, 2012 7:54:46pm |
re: #59 Cannadian Club Akbar
Well, well well. From a liberal site...
[Link: theview.abc.go.com...]
First of all, that appears to just be a comment on the site's message board, so you can't imply it officially represents The View. And if tithing counts as charity, naturally Utah would come out on top. Plus:
“The reasons for the discrepancies among states, cities, neighborhoods are rooted in part in each area’s political philosophy about the role of government versus charity,” the study’s authors noted.
Could it be that states with an adequate safety net don't need as much charity as those without?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Aug 23, 2012 7:56:01pm |
re: #66 compound_Idaho
Do you know how Mike Piazza was picked? A friend of Tommy Lasordas asked him to pick him in the 13th (I may be wrong here) round. He seemed to be a good ball player.
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Kragar Thu, Aug 23, 2012 7:56:29pm |
re: #62 Interesting Times
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Ron Paul's steam powered airship awaits at the eye of the storm.
And I still say it sounds better if he says "Revenge is a dish best served... GOLD!", then attack with his deadly golden steam pistol.
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Lidane Thu, Aug 23, 2012 7:57:09pm |
USADA says it will strip Lance Armstrong of 7 Tour de France titles, ban him from cycling for life: apne.ws/R5xsxa -RJJ— The Associated Press (@AP) August 24, 2012
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Aug 23, 2012 7:58:05pm |
re: #67 Interesting Times
First of all, that appears to just be a comment on the site's message board, so you can't imply it officially represents The View. And if tithing counts as charity, naturally Utah would come out on top. Plus:
Could it be that states with an adequate safety net don't need as much charity as those without?
LDS doesn't just take care of the locals. They are world wide. So, incorrect. And I didn't look mat the message board.
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HappyWarrior Thu, Aug 23, 2012 7:58:07pm |
re: #68 Cannadian Club Akbar
Do you know how Mike Piazza was picked? A friend of Tommy Lasordas asked him to pick him in the 13th (I may be wrong here) round. He seemed to be a good ball player.
62nd. Crazy how that works out huh. Piazza is also Tommy's godson I believe. I'm also amazed that Mike Trout lasted to 25th overall. My understanding is that because he played in NJ the scouts thought his level of competition wasn't good but I'll tell you this much. I'd rather have him than Harper.
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Lidane Thu, Aug 23, 2012 7:58:21pm |
re: #62 Interesting Times
I would laugh my ass off if Crazy Uncle Liberty's minions actually managed to cause a floor fight or otherwise disrupt the convention. I don't see that happening, but I've been wrong before.
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freetoken Thu, Aug 23, 2012 7:59:42pm |
Wait until augmented humans - people whose DNA has been altered since (artificial) conception - become common.
What will the sports authorities do then?
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SteveMcG Thu, Aug 23, 2012 8:01:30pm |
re: #70 Lidane
I wonder what the evidence was. I remember some French newspaper sayiing they tested his samples and they came up positive, but I figured that once the custody of the samples was violated, any test would be meaningless. Otherwise, you just have the testimony of guys who were users themselves. I smell witchhunt.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Aug 23, 2012 8:01:30pm |
re: #72 HappyWarrior
That's right. He was next to last or something like that. All I know is the Rays are 2.5 games out with the best pitching in baseball right now.;)
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allegro Thu, Aug 23, 2012 8:01:47pm |
re: #74 freetoken
Wait until augmented humans - people whose DNA has been altered since (artificial) conception - become common.
What will the sports authorities do then?
Great way to take all the fun out of sports. May as well just play video games.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Aug 23, 2012 8:01:53pm |
Testify
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Aug 23, 2012 8:02:16pm |
re: #75 SteveMcG
I wonder what the evidence was. I remember some French newspaper sayiing they tested his samples and they came up positive, but I figured that once the custody of the samples was violated, any test would be meaningless. Otherwise, you just have the testimony of guys who were users themselves. I smell witchhunt.
See: OJ
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Mattand Thu, Aug 23, 2012 8:02:27pm |
re: #73 Lidane
I would laugh my ass off if Crazy Uncle Liberty's minions actually managed to cause a floor fight or otherwise disrupt the convention. I don't see that happening, but I've been wrong before.
For all of their earnest sound and fury, you'd think they'd make an even token effort to be seen. Sounds like they're just going to roll over.
I would imagine this is Ol' Doc Paul's last go around. I don't see his boy Rand as having the charisma to keep the Libertarians in the GOP going. Plus, he's bat shit crazy.
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HappyWarrior Thu, Aug 23, 2012 8:02:56pm |
re: #76 Cannadian Club Akbar
That's right. He was next to last or something like that. All I know is the Rays are 2.5 games out with the best pitching in baseball right now.;)
O's are right on your tail. It would be crazy if they finished 1 and 2. It would be a nice reminder that payroll isn't everything. Plus anytime the Yankees miss the playoffs, an angel gets its wings.
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Mattand Thu, Aug 23, 2012 8:03:10pm |
re: #74 freetoken
Wait until augmented humans - people whose DNA has been altered since (artificial) conception - become common.
What will the sports authorities do then?
I dunno, but I call dibs on the Spider-man powers.
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HappyWarrior Thu, Aug 23, 2012 8:04:36pm |
I really can't see Rand Paul getting the cult following his Dad did because Rand unlike Ron is in the Senate and actually sometimes has to go along with the GOP establishment on things. Plus, of course cult of personalities don't always go from father to son so smoothy. Cromwell's son in England was nowhere near the figure his father was.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Aug 23, 2012 8:04:57pm |
re: #81 HappyWarrior
O's are good. Many (all) picked them to fall apart. They haven't. Good for all teams with payroll under $165 million. Heh.
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Kragar Thu, Aug 23, 2012 8:05:45pm |
re: #74 freetoken
Wait until augmented humans - people whose DNA has been altered since (artificial) conception - become common.
What will the sports authorities do then?
Put Jude Law in a furnace while Ethan Hawke becomes an astronaut.
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HappyWarrior Thu, Aug 23, 2012 8:06:05pm |
re: #86 Cannadian Club Akbar
O's are good. Many (all) picked them to fall apart. They haven't. Good for all teams with payroll under $165 million. Heh.
I've been partying like it's 1997 except instead of a juice box to celebrate wins, I have beer. It's just been a lot of fun because the team doesn't give up.
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freetoken Thu, Aug 23, 2012 8:06:43pm |
NBC Latino has up an opinion piece explaining why the GOP is losing so badly among the non-white non-male portion of the population, and lamenting the state of the of the Republican party:
Opinion: GOP “Akin” for punishment
[...]
This is not healthy for democracy. It’s certainly not healthy for blacks or Latinos that they feel they have no options, and if you have seen how dysfunctional a single party state can be, one need not look any further than California, where the California delegation to the Republican Convention will be led by none other than former governor Pete Wilson.
That’s the best the party has left in California. Fifteen years after they went whole hog after the growing Latino population, the Party digs deep into the bench and they come up with General Custer. That’s amazing.
[...]
I'm not really groking what Nuno is thinking about "democracy", but at this point I pretty much have decided that the GOP has to die - fractionate more accurately, and then the Democratic Party has to follow. Let a re-synthesis occur among the political infrastructure, one that is more able to respond to today's needs.
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compound_Idaho Thu, Aug 23, 2012 8:07:45pm |
re: #82 Gus
USDA bans Lance Armstrong from cycling...
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What a damn mess. Lance has been out of cycling for years. Give me one positive test and I will change my mind, well think about changing my mind. Until then STFU
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Interesting Times Thu, Aug 23, 2012 8:08:43pm |
Mitt is a guy I'd like to have a beer with.Mainly because he's Mormon so he can't drink it and I'll get to have two. #p2— Marc Lippincott (@marclippincott) August 24, 2012
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compound_Idaho Thu, Aug 23, 2012 8:10:53pm |
re: #91 Interesting Times
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Be careful. I grew up in mormon territory.
Do you know why you take 2 mormons with you when you go fishing? If you take 1 he will drink all your beer.
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Mattand Thu, Aug 23, 2012 8:11:47pm |
re: #89 freetoken
NBC Latino has up an opinion piece explaining why the GOP is losing so badly among the non-white non-male portion of the population, and lamenting the state of the of the Republican party:
Opinion: GOP “Akin” for punishment
I'm not really groking what Nuno is thinking about "democracy", but at this point I pretty much have decided that the GOP has to die - fractionate more accurately, and then the Democratic Party has to follow. Let a re-synthesis occur among the political infrastructure, one that is more able to respond to today's needs.
I just don't see the GOP splitting up anytime soon. The moderates still vote Republican, despite the party leadership behaving more and more like whitebread Taliban.
Maybe when that faction develops a frigging spine, things will change. Not holding my breath on that.
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Reverend Mother Ramallo Thu, Aug 23, 2012 8:12:15pm |
re: #74 freetoken
Ga-tt-ica ! Ga-tti-ca !
It won't matter because they'll change the rules.
Only poor people will grow in people.
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Sionainn Thu, Aug 23, 2012 8:14:17pm |
re: #70 Lidane
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Where do they get the power to strip him of his titles? That doesn't sound right.
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HappyWarrior Thu, Aug 23, 2012 8:15:45pm |
re: #89 freetoken
NBC Latino has up an opinion piece explaining why the GOP is losing so badly among the non-white non-male portion of the population, and lamenting the state of the of the Republican party:
Opinion: GOP “Akin” for punishment
I'm not really groking what Nuno is thinking about "democracy", but at this point I pretty much have decided that the GOP has to die - fractionate more accurately, and then the Democratic Party has to follow. Let a re-synthesis occur among the political infrastructure, one that is more able to respond to today's needs.
He makes a lot of good points. Anyhow, what he says about the demographics really raises some good points. The Republican Party is going to have to either adapt to new realities and demographics or be drastically weakened as a political force nationally or even eliminated. The Democrats in the 1980's faced a dillema where they couldn't espouse New Deal economic rhetoric anymore. The problem the Republicans have is that they really don't have something resembling a DLC like group that the Democrats did. Too many of them are convinced that their ideology as is just fine. If they dropped the social warfare rhetoric, they'd actually have a shot at attracting some younger voters. Despite what they believe, your average younger voter really isn't that far to the left on economic issues, he's more of a social liberal and that includes many young voters who may consider themselves conservatives.
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The Ghost of a Flea Thu, Aug 23, 2012 8:16:03pm |
NRO contributors aren't done DERPing over the Akin fracas, the latest:
Akin and His Critics
Akin was wrong about the facts, but his mistaken belief wasn’t outlandish.
I suggest reading the whole thing to get the non-logic, aggressively anti-intellectual, "its sounds right, let's seeks out science-y stuff to not-read and just roll naked confirmation bias."
Especially FAIL for: confabulating long term or chronic stress with short-term stress activation, and pretending Kevin Williamson had a point with his caveman MRA stuff.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, Aug 23, 2012 8:21:10pm |
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, Aug 23, 2012 8:22:01pm |
re: #68 Cannadian Club Akbar
Do you know how Mike Piazza was picked? A friend of Tommy Lasordas asked him to pick him in the 13th (I may be wrong here) round. He seemed to be a good ball player.
Piazza is Lasorda's god son.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Aug 23, 2012 8:25:36pm |
re: #42 freetoken
This view looks upon the Mosaic law's tithing commands as a "tax". Thus this sets up the equation tax=tithe.
They came to him and said, "Teacher, we know you are a man of integrity. You aren't swayed by men, because you pay no attention to who they are; but you teach the way of God in accordance with the truth. Is it right to pay taxes to Caesar or not?
Should we pay or shouldn't we?" But Jesus knew their hypocrisy. "Why are you trying to trap me?" he asked. "Bring me a denarius and let me look at it."
They brought the coin, and he asked them, "Whose portrait is this? And whose inscription?" "Caesar's," they replied.
Then Jesus said to them, "Give to Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is God's." And they were amazed at him.
My father once used that passage to great effect when dealing with a crazy anti-Semite at a rally, back in the old Soviet Jewry days. The crazy guy was talking to one of our volunteers, who listened to him for a bit, and then said in a carrying and panicked tone, 'So WHY do you want to kill the rabbis again?"
That got attention. Someone went for the cops, who up until then had only been there to prevent us from storming the Soviet consulate. While that was going on, my dad went over to contain the crazy. Crazy is now babbling, which ends with "What did Jesus say to the tax collector?!"
My dad puts his hands on the man's shoulder and says, very slowly and calmly, stretching it out like he's reading at Mass, "Our Lord Jesus Christ said to the tax collector, render under Caesar those things that are Caesar's, but render unto God to those things that belong to God."
Which took long enough for one of the cops to approach, and say, "I'm here today representing Caesar. You're under arrest."
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CuriousLurker Thu, Aug 23, 2012 8:32:56pm |
I'm in the process of trying to round up PDFs of all the state GOP party platforms. Some of the websites are...*facepalm*
Most recent example: Iowa. The featured content slider on the homepage talks about victory, take back our state, the upcoming RNC, look at our shiny new website, and join the Patriot Club! Look, over there—we even have a photo of some generic brownish colored people manning the phone banks because, y'know, big tent!
Underneath that is the most recent news, from August 17th: Get your free Chick-Fil-A gift card! (Okay, not exactly free—you have to join the Patriot Club for $10/mo. and they send you a $10 gift card.) It's okay to hate gays not to be PC! Personal liberty! First Amendment! Limited government (unless you're a woman)!
They make my brain hurt.
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