Days Before RNC Featuring Two Birther Speakers, Romney Makes Birther ‘Joke’

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Nothing surprises me any more about Mitt Romney’s pandering to the lowest, craziest elements of the right wing base, not even Birther “jokes.”

COMMERCE, Mich. – At a rally meant to highlight Mitt Romney’s hometown roots here in Michigan, a joke delivered by the candidate seemed to make reference to the fringe birther controversy that suggests President Obama was not born in the United States.

“Now, I love being home in this place where Ann and I were raised, where both of us were born,” said Romney. “Ann was born in Henry Ford Hospital. I was born in Harper Hospital.”

“No one’s ever asked to see my birth certificate,” said Romney. “They know that this is the place that we were born and raised.”

And don’t forget, the upcoming Republican National Convention will be featuring appearances by not one, but two high-profile lunatic Birthers: Sheriff Joe Arpaio and Donald Trump.

If Mitt Romney had ever denounced Birtherism, even once, it might be possible to accept his “joke” excuse.

But as you can see in the video above, when Romney made his “joke,” the right wing audience cheered. Welcome to the mainstream Republican Party.

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244 comments
1 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:17:43am

And the dumb asshole will whine when he's called on it. Fuck Mitt Romney and the birthers.

2 Charleston Chew  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:18:21am

So the subtext is "You can tell I'm an American just by looking at me. Am I right, old white people?"

3 Sheila Broflovski  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:19:09am

He did release a copy of his BC a couple of months ago. It could probably be subjected to the same "LAYERZ" scrutiny as President Obama's.

4 Mocking Jay  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:19:48am

Yeah, we have to take the GOP seriously as a political party.

It's the fucked up punchline to a joke that was bad to begin with.

5 darthstar  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:20:07am

Stupid, stupid fucker

6 Kragar  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:20:31am
“No one’s ever asked to see my birth certificate,” said Romney. “They know that this is the place that we were born and raised.”

That is a lie.

7 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:21:17am

re: #2 Charleston Chew

So the subtext is "You can tell I'm an American just by looking at me. Am I right, old white people?"

I think this mindset is exactly what he's pandering to. He probably doesn't believe it himself but he thinks it will make him look good with the base. Romney's no better than George Wallace at this point in my eyes when he plays this despicable game.

8 Mocking Jay  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:21:20am

re: #6 Kragar

That is a lie.

Are we really sure Mitt only has one wife?

/

9 Interesting Times  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:21:47am
10 darthstar  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:22:07am
11 Randall Gross  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:22:13am

Tribal solidarity - the only message the GOP cares about nowadays.

12 Sheila Broflovski  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:22:14am

re: #7 HappyWarrior

I think this mindset is exactly what he's pandering to. He probably doesn't believe it himself but he thinks it will make him look good with the base. Romney's no better than George Wallace at this point in my eyes when he plays this despicable game.

He is worse than George Wallace. George Wallace at the end of his life became a progressive and was truly repentant of the view he had earlier held.

13 Kragar  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:22:26am

re: #8 Mocking Jay

Are we really sure Mitt only has one wife?

/

There is a group out there which thinks Mitt might have been born in Mexico and therefore not a "natural born citizen."

14 abolitionist  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:22:44am

The birthplace of a candidate's partner is rarely an issue. Caesar and Cleopatra were a notable exception.

15 Lidane  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:22:59am

And people wonder why the GOP has problems with minority voters.

Gee. Can't imagine why.

16 Tigger2  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:23:04am

I just donated $25 to Obama's campaign for that comment Romney made, I'll donate another $25 when Romney puts his white hood on. lol

17 Charleston Chew  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:23:08am

re: #3 Learned Mother of Zion

He did release a copy of his BC a couple of months ago. It could probably be subjected to the same "LAYERZ" scrutiny as President Obama's.

I thought of all the idiotic "forgery analysis" when I recently had to get a new copy of my birth certificate. I was born in the 70s but my current copy was printed with a laser printer and has a bar code on it. Good thing I'm not a black guy running for President.

18 Gus  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:23:09am

Birtherism. The new "states rights" in the style of Lee Water.

19 labman57  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:23:32am

The Master Panderer from Massachusetts is once again brown-nosing a faction of his support base, which include:
- the racist never-say-die birther contingent
- the xenophobic, secession-happy Tea Party lunatics
- the homophobic, socially-regressive, scientifically-illiterate extremists of the Religious Right
- and of course, the self-serving, corporate-controlled, fiscal conservative sector of the Republican Party.

However, if Mitt was a tad sharper, he would realize the folly in making "No one has asked to see my (fill in the blank)" a rallying cry during a stump speech.

20 Charles Johnson  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:23:33am

I'm seriously considering some banning today based on what I saw in the previous thread. Posting links to John Birch Society websites is kind of the last straw for me.

21 darthstar  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:24:18am
22 makeitstop  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:24:19am

Video, via TPM

Youtube Video

I'll say it again - asshole.

23 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:24:33am

I have no doubt that if Mitt had been a candidate in the 1960's, he'd be in the South telling the segregationists that their cause was right. He's that desperate for people to support him and if it means pandering to racism, hey it's okay.

24 Sheila Broflovski  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:24:39am

Somebody Googled and then posted the first link that came up, without bothering to check it.

25 wrenchwench  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:24:46am
Frank says:

It is always advisable to be a loser if you cannot become a winner.

26 darthstar  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:25:08am

re: #16 Tigger2

I just donated $25 to Obama's campaign for that comment Romney made, I'll donate another $25 when Romney puts his white hood on. lol

I donated $50 myself after reading about Romney's comment...first $50 I've donated this cycle. I'm prepared to donate a hell of a lot more now.

27 Kragar  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:25:12am

Donald Trump Posted Birther Tweet Same Hour As Romney Speech

28 erik_t  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:25:18am

Obama will not stoop to 'Nobody's ever asked to see my tax returns', even though he frankly should.

But MBF or whatever.

29 RogueOne  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:25:24am

re: #20 Charles Johnson

I'm seriously considering some banning today based on what I saw in the previous thread. Posting links to John Birch Society websites is kind of the last straw for me.

Not to stick my nose in CCA's business but I'm guessing he didn't know. I didn't. If you Google "Rahm Emanuel Louis Farrakhan" it's the first non-weekly standard/breitbart link.

30 bratwurst  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:25:47am

Now that Mitt is openly courting birthers, Rush is REALLY excited!

Video
31 Charles Johnson  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:26:12am

re: #24 Learned Mother of Zion

Somebody Googled and then posted the first link that came up, without bothering to check it.

I know - Googled for links about black people committing crimes. What a shock that they found a JBS website.

32 darthstar  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:26:21am
33 Charleston Chew  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:26:47am

re: #12 Learned Mother of Zion

He is worse than George Wallace. George Wallace at the end of his life became a progressive and was truly repentant of the view he had earlier held.

Which conveniently coincided with a lot more black people being able to exercise their right to vote. But maybe I'm just too cynical.

34 darthstar  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:27:19am

Wingnuts are comparing Romney's birther comment to Obama joking about Seamus. Talk about your dog whistle.

35 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:27:58am

re: #32 darthstar

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That sadly is what he was doing. Hey look at me and Ann, we're white like you, we don't have a funny name, no one's ever questioned my birth right citizenship. Really, I hope he gets slammed and slammed hard for this but knowing the pathetic piece of crap Mitt Romney is, he'll whine about how he was misquoted or it was just a joke. I'm getting fed up with Romney and his crap. Guy is an asshole.

36 darthstar  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:28:36am

Trees are the right height, and our birth certificates are in the right font.

37 ShaunP  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:30:04am

re: #36 darthstar

Trees are the right height, and our birth certificates are in the right font.

What's gravy for the goose, amirite?

38 Mocking Jay  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:30:11am
A campaign aide told BuzzFeed, on condition of anonymity, that Romney did not plan the birth certificate joke in advance, and that it was an "off-the-cuff reference to him being a homegrown guy of Michigan" that was wrongly interpreted by the press.

Wrongly interpreted?

The fuck???

39 Charleston Chew  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:30:28am

re: #27 Kragar

Donald Trump Posted Birther Tweet Same Hour As Romney Speech

I smell a GOP conference call sometime yesterday. Expect Tampa to be a birther convention.

40 erik_t  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:30:29am

re: #35 HappyWarrior

That sadly is what he was doing. Hey look at me and Ann, we're white like you, we don't have a funny name, no one's ever questioned my birth right citizenship. Really, I hope he gets slammed and slammed hard for this but knowing the pathetic piece of crap Mitt Romney is, he'll whine about how he was misquoted or it was just a joke. I'm getting fed up with Romney and his crap. Guy is an asshole.

Hey, he's giving us what we all asked for yesterday!

Romney: "What can you talk about? Well, you can talk about my overwhelming whiteness, and Ann's overwhelming whiteness."

Honestly there is just no pleasing you people.

/

41 makeitstop  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:30:40am

re: #34 darthstar

Wingnuts are comparing Romney's birther comment to Obama joking about Seamus. Talk about your dog whistle.

Except that as someone already pointed out earlier, the Seamus story is true.

42 Mocking Jay  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:31:02am

re: #41 makeitstop

Except that as someone already pointed out earlier, the Seamus story is true.

And he loved it!

43 wrenchwench  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:31:11am

re: #29 RogueOne

Not to stick my nose in CCA's business but I'm guessing he didn't know. I didn't. If you Google "Rahm Emanuel Louis Farrakhan" it's the first non-weekly standard/breitbart link.

Some people would take that as a clue.

44 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:31:19am

re: #38 Mocking Jay

Wrongly interpreted?

The fuck???

Bullshit, fucking bullshit. The guy specifically said no one asked to see my birth certificate. They can spin all they want but that's a load of shit especially knowing that the RNC is having many birthers speak at their convention.

45 Decatur Deb  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:32:13am

re: #33 Charleston Chew

Which conveniently coincided with a lot more black people being able to exercise their right to vote. But maybe I'm just too cynical.

The Wallace story is both better and worse than you suggest. The understanding here, about a mile from George C. Wallace Community College, is that he never much believed his racist shit. He started as a populist Dem, found that ignoring race cost him an election, and swore never to be 'out-demagogued' again.

46 garhighway  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:32:26am

re: #27 Kragar

Donald Trump Posted Birther Tweet Same Hour As Romney Speech

Even scarier, the animal that rides around on The Donald's head tweeted the same thing at the same time.

47 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:32:54am

They're comparing this to the Seamus story? Really a dog on top of Romney's car which actually happened and something Romney joked about later is the same as joking or if you want to be honest pandering to people who believe that the POTUS isn't a citizen. Must be nice to live in right wing fantasy world. It's the same world where Shariah Law is accompanied by mass secularism.

48 wrenchwench  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:33:03am

re: #38 Mocking Jay

Wrongly interpreted?

The fuck???

Off-the-cuff = how he really thinks, not filtered by actual writers or advisers.

49 erik_t  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:33:25am

re: #44 HappyWarrior

Bullshit, fucking bullshit. The guy specifically said no one asked to see my birth certificate. They can spin all they want but that's a load of shit especially knowing that the RNC is having many birthers speak at their convention.

Lying is Mitt Romney's ground state and everyone knows it. There is so much lying that it's assumed that everyone is lying, therefore nobody is lying, therefore it's a non-story.

The takeaway, as usual, is that for-profit media is irrevocably broken and that anyone involved should be ashamed of themselves.

50 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:33:51am

re: #38 Mocking Jay

Wrongly interpreted?

The fuck???

*cough*bullshit*cough*

51 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:33:54am

re: #45 Decatur Deb

The Wallace story is both better and worse than you suggest. The understanding here, about a mile from George C. Wallace Community College, is that he never much believed his racist shit. He started as a populist Dem, found that ignoring race cost him an election, and swore never to be 'out-demagogued' again.

That's the story I always heard too which is why I compare Mitt to someone like Wallace more than a true believer. Hell, I think it's worse all things considered.

52 dragonath  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:33:59am

Unless Romney is doing some super-seekret debate prep, the guy is gonna get filleted like the smarmy punk he really is. Seriously, birther jokes and fluff interviews, give me a break.

53 darthstar  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:34:08am
54 erik_t  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:34:20am

re: #48 wrenchwench

Off-the-cuff = how he really thinks, not filtered by actual writers or advisers.

I don't even believe that. Romney is not stupid enough to actually be a birther.

Besides, any time Mitt actually connects with the common folk is a time you can be absolutely certain he's acting in a cold and calculating fashion.

55 Mocking Jay  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:34:24am

re: #48 wrenchwench

Off-the-cuff = how he really thinks, not filtered by actual writers or advisers.

I know, right? That they actually think that sounds better than telling us that a speech-writer put that in there and would get a stern talking-to is mind-boggling to me.

Yeah, I can't wait to have this Romney guy talking to foreign dignitaries...

56 dragonfire1981  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:34:51am

Anyone here heard of this 2016 movie?

Something Dinesh D'souza put together about Obama.

57 Charleston Chew  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:35:15am

re: #38 Mocking Jay

Wrongly interpreted?

The fuck???

He accidentally had his dog whistle set to "audible to non-racists".

58 garhighway  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:35:28am

re: #51 HappyWarrior

That's the story I always heard too which is why I compare Mitt to someone like Wallace more than a true believer. Hell, I think it's worse all things considered.

George only changed his beliefs once. Mitt does it on even- numbered hours.

59 darthstar  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:35:32am
60 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:35:45am

Mitt Romney: Big businesses are doing fine by putting money in off shore accounts

61 blueraven  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:35:47am

Aside from one being true and one being false.
Dog on car roof jokes are funny.
Birther jokes are not.

62 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:35:56am

re: #56 dragonfire1981

Anyone here heard of this 2016 movie?

Something Dinesh D'souza put together about Obama.

Yeah the WaPo's style section reviewed it today. D'Sousa is another race baiting asshole.

63 Decatur Deb  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:36:06am

re: #51 HappyWarrior

That's the story I always heard too which is why I compare Mitt to someone like Wallace more than a true believer. Hell, I think it's worse all things considered.

There are a bunch of people on the RW who have to be too smart to believe their own crap. (Glen Beck is probably not among them.)

64 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:36:09am

re: #56 dragonfire1981

Yeah I've heard of it and D'Souza can go take a long walk off a short pier.

65 Lidane  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:36:16am

Team Obama just updated the POTUS FB page. Bolding is mine:

[Link: www.facebook.com...]

Mitt Romney directly enlisted himself in the birther movement this morning: "No one has ever asked to see my birth certificate. They know this is the place I was born." Get the President's back. Stand with him in this election—and against false, divisive attacks: [Link: OFA.BO...]

66 erik_t  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:36:52am

re: #59 darthstar

Shortened to 'Romney knows he's promoting lies and doesn't care' with no loss of generality.

67 wrenchwench  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:37:08am

re: #54 erik_t

I don't even believe that. Romney is not stupid enough to actually be a birther.

Besides, any time Mitt actually connects with the common folk is a time you can be absolutely certain he's acting in a cold and calculating fashion.

No, not that he's a birther, but that he thinks birther jokes are funny and appropriate. He thinks the Michigan is his nightclub where he's speaking to his own. "Everybody knows we were born here." He forgot America is listening in now, where ever he goes.

68 darthstar  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:37:19am
69 ShaunP  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:37:48am

re: #68 darthstar

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70 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:38:11am

Sorry Mitt but when you're using birther jokes when your own party is having actual birthers like Sheriff Joe, you don't get to cry and say the mean old president's campaign is mudslinging. Mitt's typical. He dishes it out like any bully you meet but also like many bullies, he can't take it when he's hit back. He's a coward and this incident only magnifies his cowardice.

71 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:38:12am

re: #54 erik_t

Mitt is a birther now but will retroactively leave the movement later.

72 wrenchwench  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:38:37am

re: #64 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Yeah I've heard of it and D'Souza can go DIAF.

Unless you mean 'drive in a Fiat', that kind of expression can get your comment deleted (and has at least once).

73 Bulworth  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:39:16am

re: #56 dragonfire1981

Anyone here heard of this 2016 movie?

Something Dinesh D'souza put together about Obama.

Can't believe they're showing it at my local theatre place. May it bomb royally. Although I wouldn't mind if whatever wingnuts are in my hood paid to go see it and thus set some greenbacks on fire.

74 Sheila Broflovski  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:39:51am

re: #67 wrenchwench

No, not that he's a birther, but that he thinks birther jokes are funny and appropriate. He thinks the Michigan is his nightclub where he's speaking to his own. "Everybody knows we were born here." He forgot America is listening in now, where ever he goes.

Mitt has totally lost in MI because of his "Let Detroit fail" FAIL.

75 Charleston Chew  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:40:30am

re: #54 erik_t

I don't even believe that. Romney is not stupid enough to actually be a birther.

Besides, any time Mitt actually connects with the common folk is a time you can be absolutely certain he's acting in a cold and calculating fashion.

Whenever Romney tries to connect to the common people, I think of the Simpsons episode where Krusty the Klown is advised to complain about things average people can relate to and he replies, "Like when your butler washes your sock garters, but they're still covered in schmutz?"

76 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:40:30am

I think D'Sousa is among the worst being a son of immigrants himself and then appealing to the worst nativist sentiments.

77 Kragar  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:40:31am

The Obama campaign responds:

“Throughout this campaign, Governor Romney has embraced the most strident voices in his party instead of standing up to them. It’s one thing to give the stage in Tampa to Donald Trump, Sheriff Arpaio, and Kris Kobach. But Governor Romney’s decision to directly enlist himself in the birther movement should give pause to any rational voter across America.”

78 Eventual Carrion  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:40:32am

re: #32 darthstar

RT @docrocktex26: Shorter Mitt: Me and Ann are white and rich so no one ever questioned whether we're real Americans. #ChickenMittens

— Barracks O'Bama (@P0TUS) August 24, 2012

Yep. Same goes for Rupert Murdock. You can believe his news conglomerate because they are American through and through.

// Well until you get to the number 2 and above share holders, then you are talking about Muslims and communists. And yes I know Rupie is Australian, He is only American by virtue of a sped up immigration process that you can get if you are rich enough.

79 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:40:34am

re: #72 wrenchwench

Edited the comment...

80 Kragar  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:41:00am

The GOP stopped catering to the rational voter a long time ago.

81 erik_t  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:41:24am

re: #80 Kragar

The GOP stopped catering to the rational voter a long time ago.

The GOP stopped being rational a long time ago.

82 darthstar  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:41:28am
83 dragonath  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:41:47am

re: #68 darthstar

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More like maxing the asshole vote.

84 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:42:34am

I think Romney will start to crumble at the debates. People are going to see these guys side by side and realize that they wouldn't want Mitt Romney running their business let alone their country. Mitt Romney only cares about one person and that's Mitt Romney.

85 Gus  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:43:21am

Idiots.

86 simoom  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:43:53am

Flashback - Romney's son Matt during a Q & A, responding to a question about whether his father will release more tax returns:

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

Matt Romney: "He's certainly not afraid of anything. He's not hiding anything. But, you know, I heard someone suggest the other day that as soon as President Obama releases his grades, and birth certificate, and sort of a long list of things, and then maybe he'll do it."

87 darthstar  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:44:34am
88 blueraven  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:45:14am

Maybe Mitt was tired of Akin's words getting all the attention.

He wants everyone to be talking about him dammit!

89 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:45:25am

romney just trumped his akin the neck.

90 Decatur Deb  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:46:05am

re: #86 simoom

Flashback - Romney's son Matt during a Q & A, responding to a question about whether his father will release more tax returns:

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

Those alpha males breed true.

91 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:46:34am

re: #86 simoom

Flashback - Romney's son Matt during a Q & A, responding to a question about whether his father will release more tax returns:

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

Seems like his son is a lot like his Dad. Passive aggressive and whiny.

92 dragonath  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:47:23am

Inherit the Whine

93 Charleston Chew  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:47:31am

re: #63 Decatur Deb

There are a bunch of people on the RW who have to be too smart to believe their own crap. (Glen Beck is probably not among them.)

I'm fascinated by the ones that go all the way through the looking glass by telling lies, then finding so much success that way and associating so much positive feedback with the lies that over time they actually come to believe them, out of the desperate fervent desire for the truth and their financial success to walk hand-in-hand.

The mind is a fascinating gobbledygook generator. It can hash the truth more thoroughly than a cryptographic algorithm.

94 dragonfire1981  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:48:50am

Here's the trailer for that 2016 movie:

Youtube Video
95 Charleston Chew  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:49:00am

re: #83 dragonath

More like maxing the asshole vote.

Ah, the Maxhole Strategy.

96 Bulworth  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:49:33am

re: #84 HappyWarrior

I think Romney will start to crumble at the debates. People are going to see these guys side by side and realize that they wouldn't want Mitt Romney running their business let alone their country. Mitt Romney only cares about one person and that's Mitt Romney.

I hope so, too, but I really have to wonder. The GOP had about a thousand debates and Mittens, with his inglorious history of policy flip-flopping somehow emerged from them.

97 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:49:53am

re: #94 dragonfire1981

given that D'Souza is Indian and his country was a british Colony perhaps someone should ask him about his Anti-colonialist upbringing.

98 makeitstop  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:50:08am

re: #77 Kragar

The Obama campaign responds:

Wow, they're good.

99 darthstar  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:50:11am
100 Sheila Broflovski  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:50:27am

re: #96 Bulworth

I hope so, too, but I really have to wonder. The GOP had about a thousand debates and Mittens, with his inglorious history of policy flip-flopping somehow emerged from them.

That's because all the other candidates were total asshats.

101 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:50:43am

re: #96 Bulworth

Well look at who his opponents were. Now it's the big leagues, not some TP sponsored love fest.

102 darthstar  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:50:51am

re: #88 blueraven

Maybe Mitt was tired of Akin's words getting all the attention.

He wants everyone to be talking about him dammit!

Well, it worked...but probably not the way he intended. :)

103 Decatur Deb  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:51:12am

re: #96 Bulworth

I hope so, too, but I really have to wonder. The GOP had about a thousand debates and Mittens, with his inglorious history of policy flip-flopping somehow emerged from them.

Best they got. (Though there is something a little tragic about Huntsman.)

104 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:51:13am

re: #100 Learned Mother of Zion

Hah! Beat me by seconds...

105 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:51:16am

re: #96 Bulworth

Mitt survived them by appealing to the lowest common denominator and then using money to bludgeon the others. But these debates will not be the GOP primary debates, they will be the big ones. I see Mittens falling fast.

106 Interesting Times  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:51:53am
107 darthstar  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:52:19am

re: #98 makeitstop

Wow, they're good.

They're professionals. They understand the importance of the presidency, and don't see it as a trophy. Romney just wants the bragging rights of saying he was president.

108 Kragar  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:53:52am

GOP Attorneys General: Voting Rights Act Should Be Struck Down To Boost Laws Suppressing Minority Vote

The Republican attorneys general of Alabama, Arizona, Georgia, South Carolina, North Dakota and Texas filed an amicus brief in the Supreme Court arguing that a key provision of the Voting Rights Act is unconstitutional. Significantly, the brief points to the fact that the Voting Rights Act impedes laws intended to make it more difficult for racial minorities to cast a ballot as a reason why Court should cast a skeptical gaze on the landmark voting rights law responsible for breaking the back of Jim Crow:

109 Gus  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:54:01am
110 Interesting Times  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:54:06am

re: #108 Kragar

GOP Attorneys General: Voting Rights Act Should Be Struck Down To Boost Laws Suppressing Minority Vote

111 makeitstop  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:54:26am

re: #96 Bulworth

I hope so, too, but I really have to wonder. The GOP had about a thousand debates and Mittens, with his inglorious history of policy flip-flopping somehow emerged from them.

Yeah, but his opposition at those debates was a group of intellectual third-graders.

112 Lidane  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:54:40am

re: #103 Decatur Deb

Best they got. (Though there is something a little tragic about Huntsman.)

Huntsman was the only on they had that was worth a damn, but even he couldn't resist a lot of the RWNJ's shitty ideas.

113 Decatur Deb  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:54:51am

re: #107 darthstar

They're professionals. They understand the importance of the presidency, and don't see it as a trophy. Romney just wants the bragging rights of saying he was president.

Run with some of his campaign's young paid and volunteer GOTV staff--they're pretty encouraging.

114 darthstar  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:55:11am
115 Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:55:21am

re: #103 Decatur Deb

Best they got. (Though there is something a little tragic about Huntsman.)

I really hope Huntsman shows up and speaks at the Democratic Convention.

Heck, show up at the Libertarian Convention.

I don't agree with Huntsman 80% of the time, but I at least feel i could have a conversation with him and change his mind if I had a good enough case.

Which is more than can be said for just about every other Republican on the national/regional stage.

116 simoom  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:56:27am

re: #106 Interesting Times

@conncarroll: I'm confused: Can only Democrats tell birth certificate jokes, only black people, or only black Democrats?

I'm glad the Right is admitting this was a Birther reference/pander, as Romney surrogates are ridiculously claiming the opposite.

117 wrenchwench  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:57:17am

re: #106 Interesting Times

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Conn Carroll is a bigger jerk than I thought. And that's pretty big.

118 Kragar  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:57:30am

Its so much easier when your opponent openly admits he's really just a terrible person.

119 Lidane  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:58:10am

re: #108 Kragar

GOP Attorneys General: Voting Rights Act Should Be Struck Down To Boost Laws Suppressing Minority Vote

I'm not surprised that Texas is involved with this. It's not enough that the GOP is trying to gerrymander the shit out of this state to completely destroy the Latino vote, but now they want to disenfranchise everyone else that isn't white.

120 erik_t  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:58:37am

re: #106 Interesting Times

Derp RT @conncarroll: I'm confused: Can only Democrats tell birth certificate jokes, only black people, or only black Democrats?

They've collapsed into the NO U defense already?

Don't take a big steaming shit on your opponent's kitchen table if you're not willing to own it.

121 dragonath  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:59:37am

I'm totally expecting Trump's alleged Obama impersonator to make a birther joke during the convention. You know they want to.

122 Gus  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:59:52am
123 garhighway  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 10:59:59am

re: #119 Lidane

I'm not surprised that Texas is involved with this. It's not enough that the GOP is trying to gerrymander the shit out of this state to completely destroy the Latino vote, but now they want to disenfranchise everyone else that isn't white.

If the job is worth doing it's worth doing right.

124 Kragar  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:01:12am

re: #119 Lidane

I'm not surprised that Texas is involved with this. It's not enough that the GOP is trying to gerrymander the shit out of this state to completely destroy the Latino vote, but now they want to disenfranchise everyone else that isn't white.

Bur remember, if a minority ever really wants to protect their rights, they need to do it at the ballot box.
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125 Gus  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:04:13am

It's official. Mitt Romney is running for president of the Confederacy.

126 Kragar  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:04:52am

Republicans eye return to gold standard

Drafts of the party platform, which it will adopt at a convention in Tampa Bay, Florida, next week, call for an audit of Federal Reserve monetary policy and a commission to look at restoring the link between the dollar and gold… A commission would have no power except to make recommendations, but Mr Fieler said it would provide a chance to educate politicians and the public about the merits of a return to gold. “We’re not going to go from a standing start to the gold standard,” he said.

127 Kragar  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:05:35am

re: #125 Gus

It's official. Mitt Romney is running for president of the Confederacy.

Bryan Fischer already said the South is facing the second War of Northern Aggression.

128 JeffM70  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:05:59am

re: #122 Gus

Dave knows better than that. Romney in no way deserves the benefit of the doubt on his joke. He knew exactly what it referred to and who would find it funny.

129 erik_t  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:06:17am
130 Sionainn  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:07:04am

re: #6 Kragar

That is a lie.

By now, it's become apparent that everything that comes out of his mouth is a lie. He can't even tell the truth in a "joke."

131 Bulworth  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:07:26am

re: #126 Kragar

Republicans eye return to gold standard

As if their social views and plans for the safety net weren't bad enough...

132 Decatur Deb  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:09:15am

Heard a delightful birther joke last week. Was chatting up the owner of a little Florida motel, and told her we were overnighting to register voters at the local college--for the Obama campaign. She gave us a very good rundown of the local scene, including warnings about some local areas likely to be hostile. Then Mrs. Patel smiled and said: "But don't worry about me, I'm a Kenyan too."

133 Sheila Broflovski  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:10:15am

re: #126 Kragar

Republicans eye return to gold standard

Mitt Romney, your candidate for 1912!

134 erik_t  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:11:12am

re: #126 Kragar

Republicans eye return to gold standard

Right of Richard M. Nixon.

135 aagcobb  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:12:32am

re: #96 Bulworth

I hope so, too, but I really have to wonder. The GOP had about a thousand debates and Mittens, with his inglorious history of policy flip-flopping somehow emerged from them.

That's because his opponents were the worst collection of presidential candidates in the history of the republic. Romney had the fight of his life against a religious fanatic who lost his last senate race by double digits.

136 makeitstop  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:13:01am

re: #126 Kragar

Republicans eye return to gold standard

Besides this being a trinket thrown to the Paulians, it shows the utter shallowness of though of the modern Republican party.

The basic fact is this: all of the gold that has been mined ever would not hold enough value to cover the US economy.

137 Charles Johnson  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:14:57am
138 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:15:22am

re: #127 Kragar

Bryan Fischer already said the South is facing the second War of Northern Aggression.

Fischer's just mad that it's considered criminal to attack someone because they're gay or non-Christian.

139 makeitstop  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:16:17am

re: #137 Charles Johnson

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Bruce, no doubt, approves.

140 Gus  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:16:31am

re: #137 Charles Johnson

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The Romney camp responds!

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141 dragonfire1981  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:16:38am

How funny would it be if a group of minorities reached out to Republicans, saying they support the voter ID requirements and want help to get set up for voting day. Heck, a lot of the GOP candidates would make special mention of these people.

The kicker would be though, that they'd end up voting Obama anyway.

142 ShaunP  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:16:40am

re: #137 Charles Johnson

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Was just coming to post that. LMAO...

143 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:17:10am

End the Fed! /GOP 2012 aka Pauliacs

Fed's bailout of AIG results in Fed making money. Wait. What?

The New York Fed said it sold the remainder of the Maiden Lane III portfolio to a handful of buyers, turning an approximate profit of $6.6 billion for holding onto and disposing of the assets over the past four years.

Thursday’s sale “marks the end of an important chapter – our assistance to AIG – that was undertaken to stabilize the financial system in the midst of the financial crisis,” said New York Fed President William Dudley. “I am please we were able to achieve our principal goal, which was to protect the U.S. economy from the potentially devastating effects of AIG’s failure, while demonstrating sound stewardship of taxpayer interests.”

Coupled with a $2.8 billion gain from the wind-down of Maiden Lane II – another portfolio of mortgage-related assets taken in from AIG – and the termination of a credit line to AIG in January 2011 that produced $8.2 billion worth of interest and fees, the New York Fed says Thursday’s sale brings the total net profit to taxpayers from the AIG rescue to $17.7 billion.

That's a net profit to taxpayers for the AIG rescue of $17.7 billion. The Fed didn't lose that money in the bailout. It made money on the bailout - at least on the AIG portion.

Taxpayers are still in the hole on Chrysler and GM, but if their stock prices rise sufficiently, taxpayers could see a wash.

144 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:17:13am

Well you do have to admit that Romney is a real go-getter in (personal) financial matters, who had ever even heard of a $100 million IRA before he came along? I very much doubt that Obama could ever manage to equal that level of arcane financial voodoo. That is why we should all be voting for Mitt this election, maybe he can get away with hiding our financial problems for another eight years or so instead of making us address them!

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145 freetoken  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:17:20am

re: #136 makeitstop

It's more than a trinket to the Paulians, though it also serves that purpose. This atavistic view of money has been championed by many on the religious right, such as Gary North and his followers (Lew Rockwell, etc.) regardless of the existence of Ron Paul. Plus, it plays into the conspiratorial mindset so common among the talk radio listeners.

146 dragonfire1981  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:17:26am

re: #137 Charles Johnson

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Considering what happened to Reagan when he tried to use the song, that comment becomes even more clever.

147 Gus  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:19:05am

This is bigger than yesterday's Cayman docs IMO.

148 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:19:37am

What's unfortunate is this election won't be a landslide so the GOP will continue to think this level of crazy is somehow acceptable. It is going to be funny when the country's demographics change and they become a much weaker party. There's a very big reason why you have asshats like those who write for the NR and Pat Buchanan who complain about the country getting less white. It's because they know they won't be able to get away politically with race baiting.

149 aagcobb  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:20:29am

re: #134 erik_t

Right of Richard M. Nixon.

The truth is that Richard Nixon's domestic policies were so liberal, he would be too liberal to be nominated President by the Democrats today, never mind the GOP.

150 Sionainn  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:20:37am

re: #84 HappyWarrior

I think Romney will start to crumble at the debates. People are going to see these guys side by side and realize that they wouldn't want Mitt Romney running their business let alone their country. Mitt Romney only cares about one person and that's Mitt Romney.

I'm sad that we have to wait until October to see that happen.

151 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:21:42am

HaHaHaha, he's a funny one...
If I didn't know before, I know now.
This is is no longer just political rhetoric for me. He's the leader of their pack, so now I want my alpha male to go for the jugular. I want to see Mitt stumble, and fumble, and turn red in the face during the debates.
Mitt Romney is a pathetic, lying, racist fuck who couldn't lead a legless rat out of a paper bag.
And I mean that from the bottom of my heart.
Dick.

153 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:22:41am

re: #150 Sionainn

I'm sad that we have to wait until October to see that happen.

I know. I really do think the debates are going to be Romney's downfall though. I just look at the primaries and his whole strategy was let Bachmann, Gingrich, or Santorum say something really outlandish and then Mitt can came in and soundly vaguely presidential. He's not going to be able to do that with Obama . I'm curious though to who they're going to have play Obama in Romney's debate prep. It's already came out that Kerry is playing Romney (excellent choice) and Van Hollen playing Ryan (another good choice).

154 Sionainn  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:22:45am

re: #86 simoom

Flashback - Romney's son Matt during a Q & A, responding to a question about whether his father will release more tax returns:

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

I'm still waiting for Mitt himself to actually ask for Obama's transcripts before he'll release his taxes so that Obama can whip them out. BAM! It would be priceless. I just know that Obama has been holding out for something major to make the nuts look foolish.

155 Gus  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:22:55am

re: #152 Gus

RNC On Romney’s Birth Certificate Joke: ‘He Was Stating A Fact’

Can you believe that? I mean... wow.

156 JeffM70  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:23:22am

re: #148 HappyWarrior

The GOP's saving grace is the people who don't follow politics that closely don't believe the craziness is that pervasive. Nor has the Beltway Media been able to accept that fact even though the evidence is right there.

157 erik_t  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:23:29am

re: #152 Gus

RNC On Romney’s Birth Certificate Joke: ‘He Was Stating A Fact’

Ooh! Ooh! I'll play!

"There's no conclusive evidence that Mitt Romney crucified Jesus"

158 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:23:32am

re: #152 Gus

RNC On Romney’s Birth Certificate Joke: ‘He Was Stating A Fact’

Why don't they just go full birther instead of playing this "We take him at his word" crap that they've been doing.

159 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:23:33am

re: #152 Gus

Also a fact - Romney hasn't released full tax returns for the past decade.

160 makeitstop  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:23:54am

re: #152 Gus

RNC On Romney’s Birth Certificate Joke: ‘He Was Stating A Fact’

RNC = Assholes from the top on down.

161 Stephen T.  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:26:09am

re: #152 Gus

RNC On Romney’s Birth Certificate Joke: ‘He Was Stating A Fact’

Our candidate is white, theirs obviously isn't

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162 BeenHereAwhile  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:26:17am

re: #45 Decatur Deb

The Wallace story is both better and worse than you suggest. The understanding here, about a mile from George C. Wallace Community College, is that he never much believed his racist shit. He started as a populist Dem, found that ignoring race cost him an election, and swore never to be 'out-demagogued' again.

Although I am not a fan of the campaign tactics George Wallace employed to get elected at that time, he did subsequently and publicly recant later in life.

During both (George & Lurleen) Wallace terms in office, Johnny Ford, Mayor of Tuskegee, and family were often overnight guests in the Alabama governors mansion.

Ford's family being biracial, gives further credence to the belief that George Wallace was never going to allow himself to be "publicly" out-demagogued again. (H/T DD)

163 aagcobb  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:26:22am

re: #158 HappyWarrior

Why don't they just go full birther instead of playing this "We take him at his word" crap that they've been doing.

Because there aren't enough insane racists in the country for Romney to win with just them. He can't go full birther without losing too many sane votes to win the election.

164 JeffM70  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:26:35am

re: #155 Gus

And I'm sure he's entirely unaware that 60% of Republicans believe Obama wasn't born in America or are not sure if he was born in America and would read more into his joke that he intended.

165 wrenchwench  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:27:07am

re: #160 makeitstop

RNC = Assholes from the top on down.

Here's another one.

166 freetoken  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:28:45am

re: #165 wrenchwench

The GOP has done the hat trick today: blacks, women, and Native Americans.

167 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:29:14am

re: #165 wrenchwench

Here's another one.

What the fuck. Really there's something seriously wrong with what the Republican Party is becoming.

168 erik_t  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:29:16am

This campaign cycle has been disgusting, but it's not often that it makes me legitimately angry.

I'm legitimately angry right now. Teeth-grinding, knuckle-cracking, long-blink-taking angry.

And people will defend this. Hell, people already are defending this.

I've got some old fashioned donatin' to do this evening.

169 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:29:50am

re: #166 freetoken

The GOP has done the hat trick today: blacks, women, and Native Americans.

The day is young, only 2:30 EST, maybe Mitt or Paul will get some cheap attack in about union workers by the end of the day.

170 allegro  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:30:14am

Great article from the Houston Press:

Your Gonzo Guide to the Republican National Convention

Now, 40 years later, the Republican National Convention is returning to Florida. On August 30, Mitt Romney will don a sleek suit and flash his Vaseline smile to a sea of pale-skinned delegates in Tampa. He will compliment the city on hosting the four-day, $123 million orgiastic event. And he will implore the crowd to obey the banners hung from the rafters: "Believe in America."
...
While the mainstream media sucks down speeches by Romney and his new budget boy toy, Paul Ryan, Village Voice Media is honoring Thompson's legacy by doing as he would have done in Tampa: dredging up the real, sordid story behind the convention.

It's not something you'll see on CNN. But screw Wolf Blitzer. We've got our own guides: pole dancers poised to suck rich Repub visitors dry, professional Sarah Palin porn impersonator Lisa Ann prepping for the performance of a lifetime, aging strip club owner Joe Redner fighting off cancer to flip right-wingers his middle finger one last time, and Daily Show correspondent Aasif Mandvi returning to his home state to chronicle the madness.

"Florida has a lot going for it," Mandvi says. "Tampa is the birthplace of Hooters, for God's sake."

Make no mistake: The RNC's return to the Sunshine State is no fluke. For Romney, Ryan and the rest of the party, Florida is the future.

Since Nixon's days, conservatives have transformed Florida into a hellish post-governmental wasteland. Here, super-PACs run wild through suburbs in foreclosure, people trust in only God or their Glock, and the poor are left to literally cannibalize one another on the nightly news. But hey, there's no state income tax!

As in '72, Florida is the template for a right-wing takeover in 2012. Pay attention, America, because this crazy collapsed state could soon be yours, too.

171 makeitstop  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:30:17am

re: #165 wrenchwench

Here's another one.

Wow.

Just when you think they may have reached Peak Asshole, they find a way to crank it up even higher. That's a rare skill.

172 Barflytom  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:30:25am

re: #76 HappyWarrior

I think D'Sousa is among the worst being a son of immigrants himself and then appealing to the worst nativist sentiments.

But at least he was kind enough to send Obama's destitute brother a thousand bucks, which is apparently more than B H Obama has ever done.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

D'Souza was actually born in India btw.

How many times has Obama said "I am my brother's keeper" in a speech ?
Does it not occur to you lefties that that might be just a tad hypocritical since his actual brother lives in a tin shack in a slum ?
And before any of you reply that George Obama is a hopeless drunk, and that sending him money which he will just blow on booze isn't doing him any good; have you not heard the same objection to welfare ?

I'm curious to see how you can excuse Obama's neglect of his own brother...

173 Digital Display  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:30:35am

I can't wait till the debates! They will be epic.
I think both Obama and Mitt will give as much as they take in this classic moment.
Man.. I can't wait till the threads get posted..
The SuperBowl of Politics!

174 blueraven  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:32:06am

re: #172 Barflytom

But at least he was kind enough to send Obama's destitute brother a thousand bucks, which is apparently more than B H Obama has ever done.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

D'Souza was actually born in India btw.

How many times has Obama said "I am my brother's keeper" in a speech ?
Does it not occur to you lefties that that might be just a tad hypocritical since his actual brother lives in a tin shack in a slum ?
And before any of you reply that George Obama is a hopeless drunk, and that sending him money which he will just blow on booze isn't doing him any good; have you not heard the same objection to welfare ?

I'm curious to see how you can excuse Obama's neglect of his own brother...

Fall off your barstool and hit your head?

175 ArchangelMichael  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:32:19am

re: #126 Kragar

Republicans eye return to gold standard apparently can't do basic arithmetic.

176 wrenchwench  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:33:23am
177 erik_t  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:33:53am

So many downdingable moronic platitudes, so little time...

178 Interesting Times  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:33:54am

re: #172 Barflytom

Hai troll! Since you're such a D'Souza fan, do you also approve of how he defended the Taliban?

D'Souza once again turns his eye for social criticism to liberals, this time asserting their responsibility for the rise of anti-Americanism abroad and perhaps even the terrorist attacks of 9/11. The cultural Left in the U.S., by pressing for sexual freedom for women and gays through birth control, no-fault divorce, and support for gay marriage, has not only undermined American culture but also provoked the ire of religious conservatives in other nations, most prominently Islamic fundamentalists. Contrary to President Bush's assertions that terrorists and their supporters hate American freedom, D'Souza asserts that what they really hate is our licentious culture. He notes that American conservatives have more in common with Islamic Fundamentalists than with American liberals.

179 makeitstop  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:34:01am

Now my day is complete.
/

180 Gus  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:34:33am

re: #172 Barflytom

But at least he was kind enough to send Obama's destitute brother a thousand bucks, which is apparently more than B H Obama has ever done.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

D'Souza was actually born in India btw.

How many times has Obama said "I am my brother's keeper" in a speech ?
Does it not occur to you lefties that that might be just a tad hypocritical since his actual brother lives in a tin shack in a slum ?
And before any of you reply that George Obama is a hopeless drunk, and that sending him money which he will just blow on booze isn't doing him any good; have you not heard the same objection to welfare ?

I'm curious to see how you can excuse Obama's neglect of his own brother...

Just in time. We were looking for some flounce meat.

181 engineer cat  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:34:39am

No one’s ever asked to see my

really??

182 Eventual Carrion  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:35:01am

re: #172 Barflytom

But at least he was kind enough to send Obama's destitute brother a thousand bucks, which is apparently more than B H Obama has ever done.


[snip]
And before any of you reply that George Obama is a hopeless drunk, and that sending him money which he will just blow on booze isn't doing him any good; have you not heard the same objection to welfare ?

Could it be that he is a drunk and everyone on welfare isn't. But don't let that fact get in the way of your emotional outburst of concern.

183 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:35:24am

re: #181 engineer cat

No one’s ever asked to see my

really??

Your what?

184 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:35:43am

re: #178 Interesting Times

Hai troll! Since you're such a D'Souza fan, do you also approve of how he defended the Taliban?

And this guy questions Obama's love of America? What a joke.

185 Gus  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:36:59am

re: #178 Interesting Times

Hai troll! Since you're such a D'Souza fan, do you also approve of how he defended the Taliban?

Oh yeah. I remember that.

186 Interesting Times  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:37:08am

re: #184 HappyWarrior

And this guy questions Obama's love of America? What a joke.

LGF site policy precludes me from saying what I really think of him.

187 makeitstop  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:37:10am

D'Souza?

Isn't he the guy who spent his college years outing gays at Dartmouth with Laura Ingraham?

Yeah, nice guy.
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188 Mattand  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:37:25am

re: #172 Barflytom

I was going to comment on the previous thread that since the Akin discussions died down, the conservatives were slowly drifting back into the comments sections. Guess it's official now.

189 ArchangelMichael  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:37:31am

re: #172 Barflytom

You are basically quoting almost verbatim something that Rush Limbaugh said yesterday.

And he thinks liberals are "mind-numbed robots".

190 erik_t  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:37:48am

re: #178 Interesting Times

He notes that American conservatives have more in common with Islamic Fundamentalists than with American liberals.

This is exactly right, but it probably isn't sending the intended message...

191 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:38:00am

re: #183 Mostly sane, most of the time.

Your what?

I don't know about states other than Oregon, but I had to show my birth certificate to renew my driver's license. And they were picky, and I had to get the amendment from the state of California. (There had been a minor name change in my childhood.)

192 Sionainn  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:38:43am

re: #170 allegro

Great article from the Houston Press:

Your Gonzo Guide to the Republican National Convention

Too bad there isn't someone like Hunter S. Thompson following Mitt Romney around. It'd make for an awesome book.

193 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:40:15am

re: #186 Interesting Times

LGF site policy precludes me from saying what I really think of him.

I don't blame you. The guy is a nasty asshole. Really, some of his accusations at Obama don't even make sense. Anti colonialist? Uh Dinesh, you do know how America was formed right? A revolution against the world's then most powerful empire? The guy's just another "intellectual conservative" who is nothing more than a shallow bigot.

194 Gus  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:42:02am

Brought to you by Fox News:


195 steve_davis  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:42:14am

The most damaging part of the comment is not that it is a kind of weak nod to birtherism, but that it yet again reinforces the elite nature of Mitt Romney's life: no one has ever asked Romney for all sorts of things that the rest of us have had to maintain within easy reach. How many Latinos who are citizens living in places like Arizona heard Mitt Romney's "joke" and immediately gave him a hearty middle finger? I know that if I were living in a state where I had to keep a birth certificate in the glove box to avoid getting picked up for driving while brown, I would be deeply unamused by a joke that relies on the speaker's reinforcing the fact that he lives a privileged, no-questions-asked existence.

196 Mattand  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:43:07am

re: #193 HappyWarrior

I don't blame you. The guy is a nasty asshole. Really, some of his accusations at Obama don't even make sense. Anti colonialist? Uh Dinesh, you do know how America was formed right? A revolution against the world's then most powerful empire? The guy's just another "intellectual conservative" who is nothing more than a shallow bigot.

I saw the anti-colonial thing as well. Someone explained that insult to me the other day; still doesn't make sense.

I love how Dinesh is "helping" George Obama: by exploiting him in an article to whip more hatred toward Obama.

197 makeitstop  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:43:23am

re: #192 Sionainn

Too bad there isn't someone like Hunter S. Thompson following Mitt Romney around. It'd make for an awesome book.

Charlie Pierce gets close on occasion, but he doesn't do enough drugs to put him over the top.

I nominate Doghouse Riley. Dude cracks me up.

198 Gus  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:43:36am

lol I went over my limit on Twitter.

199 Barflytom  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:43:44am

re: #189 ArchangelMichael

You are basically quoting almost verbatim something that Rush Limbaugh said yesterday.

And he thinks liberals are "mind-numbed robots".

Actually no - I don't listen to radio.
There were plenty of stories about George Obama's plight back in 2008 - just not in the MSM for obvious reasons.

The point is;
1) Obama has used the phrase "I am my brother's keeper" numerous times.
2) His own brother is penniless and living in a tin shack.

Do you not notice a slight discrepancy between words and deeds there ?

200 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:43:50am

re: #194 Gus

So much for OPSEC. The author of that book put himself and others at risk by divulging details and names, and FoxNews made that failure complete by publicizing the author's true identity.

201 Sionainn  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:44:34am

re: #197 makeitstop

Charlie Pierce gets close on occasion, but he doesn't do enough drugs to put him over the top.

I nominate Doghouse Riley. Dude cracks me up.

I bookmarked it to read later. You people are keeping me from my work.

need I?/////

202 steve_davis  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:47:17am

re: #23 HappyWarrior

I have no doubt that if Mitt had been a candidate in the 1960's, he'd be in the South telling the segregationists that their cause was right. He's that desperate for people to support him and if it means pandering to racism, hey it's okay.

"I always love my trips to the South. The colored water fountains are just the right height...."

203 Mattand  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:47:34am

re: #199 Barflytom

Actually no - I don't listen to radio.
There were plenty of stories about George Obama's plight back in 2008 - just not in the MSM for obvious reasons.

The point is;
1) Obama has used the phrase "I am my brother's keeper" numerous times.
2) His own brother is penniless and living in a tin shack.

Do you not notice a slight discrepancy between words and deeds there ?

So therefore Obama shouldn't be president?

Just a wild guess, but I'm guessing you or Dinesh aren't part of Obama's family. But please feel free to troll on about stuff you have no idea about.

204 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:48:35am

re: #199 Barflytom

That's nonsense. CNN did a full profile of George. So too did the NY Times.

205 simoom  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:48:57am

This actually seems to be representative of the main pushback the RW blogs (Malkin, Redstate, etc) are going with:

The idea seems to be that because President Obama, his campaign and surrogates have mocked Birtherism through humor, that means they've told Birther jokes too, so they're hypocrits and they're trying to unfairly reserve the privilege of telling Birther jokes to themselves.

There seems to be a fundamental lack of understanding as to the clear differance between mocking bigoted idiocy and pandering to it in front of a receptive audience:

[Link: www.buzzfeed.com...]

Meanwhile, the reaction from the crowd of Republicans here was largely enthusiastic, with some laughing it off as a politically incorrect joke, and others treating it as a welcome attack on what they believe to be the coverup of the president's birthplace.

Asked what he made of Romney's line, Jim Barzakov, a retiree from Berryville, MI, expressed frustration with reporters' fixation on the issue.

"What is it with this birth certificate? It's every question I get from you guys!" he said. "You must be all liberals! What kind of a question is that?"

He then said the meaning of the line was simple: "It says Romney has his birth certificate; Obama can't find his." Asked about the certificate the White House released last year, Barzakov dismissed it as a "photoshop certificate."

Terese Cayline, who works at a real estate management company in Waterford, MI, said she doesn't consider herself a "birther" — but raised several of the talking points espoused by skeptics of the president's birth certificate.

"[Romney] was born and raised in Michigan and as far as Obama goes, his grandma was there at his birth and his grandma has never been outside Kenya," Cayline said. "So I find it ironic that he won't show the real birth certificate."

206 Coracle  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:51:09am

re: #199 Barflytom

Do you not notice a slight discrepancy between words and deeds there ?

What I notice is a rather strong discrepancy between your words and actual facts.

207 Lidane  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:51:27am

Brief OT, but my second phone interview is done. Talked with the COO of the company and he flat out told me he thinks I'd be perfect for the job. All that's left is a face to face meeting which will hopefully happen next week.

208 Lidane  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:52:18am

re: #199 Barflytom

Seriously? Concern trolling about Obama's brother?

Try harder next time.

209 Eventual Carrion  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:53:15am

re: #189 ArchangelMichael

You are basically quoting almost verbatim something that Rush Limbaugh said yesterday.

And he thinks liberals are "mind-numbed robots".

Ditto!

210 Gus  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:53:35am

re: #203 Mattand

You mean like the way that Mitt Romney even talks about the relatives and friends of the Romney family back and Mexico? Oh right. Didn't think so.

211 Gus  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:54:17am

re: #208 Lidane

Seriously? Concern trolling about Obama's brother?

Try harder next time.

Ask him about the Romney family in Mexico. You know. The one that Mitt never stops talking about. (cough)

212 Eventual Carrion  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:55:05am

re: #199 Barflytom

Actually no - I don't listen to radio.
There were plenty of stories about George Obama's plight back in 2008 - just not in the MSM for obvious reasons.

The point is;
1) Obama has used the phrase "I am my brother's keeper" numerous times.
2) His own brother is penniless and living in a tin shack.

Do you not notice a slight discrepancy between words and deeds there ?

No, next question

213 Barflytom  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:55:27am

re: #174 blueraven

Fall off your barstool and hit your head?

Your point being ?

Perhaps you'll enjoy this piece as well....

[Link: www.theblaze.com...]

214 freetoken  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:56:06am

re: #213 Barflytom

Hehehehe.... Glenn Beck's site... bwahahahahaha....

215 simoom  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:58:04am

If anyone's interested, there was a short discussion about the Fox News D'souza article, when it first came out a little over a week ago. I think it started with my comment here:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

216 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:58:53am

re: #205 simoom

This actually seems to be representative of the main pushback the RW blogs (Malkin, Redstate, etc) are going with:

The idea seems to be that because President Obama, his campaign and surrogates have mocked Birtherism through humor, that means they've told Birther jokes too, so they're hypocrits and they're trying to unfairly reserve the privilege of telling Birther jokes to themselves.

There seems to be a fundamental lack of understanding as to the clear differance between mocking bigoted idiocy and pandering to it in front of a receptive audience:

[Link: www.buzzfeed.com...]

These people are such idiots. Fucking morons.

217 Charles Johnson  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:59:49am

re: #215 simoom

If anyone's interested, there was a short discussion about the Fox News D'souza article, when it first came out a little over a week ago. I think it started with my comment here:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Dinesh D'Souza has parlayed right wing race-baiting into a profitable business. You can see from Barflytom's comments that this kind of base hate-mongering really gets 'em going.

218 JeffM70  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 12:00:11pm

re: #213 Barflytom

Glenn Beck? You offer Glenn Beck as a source and think you'll be taken seriously?

219 allegro  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 12:00:40pm

re: #206 Coracle

What I notice is a rather strong discrepancy between your words and actual facts.

From the CNN article:

But reports surfaced in the past few days, springing from an Italian Vanity Fair article saying George Obama is living in a shack and "earning less than a dollar a day."

The reports left him angry.

"I was brought up well. I live well even now," he said. "The magazines, they have exaggerated everything.

Imagine that.

220 CuriousLurker  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 12:01:34pm

What next—Stormfront, maybe GoV?

221 ArchangelMichael  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 12:02:28pm

Concern troll is "concerned".

222 wrenchwench  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 12:03:20pm

re: #220 CuriousLurker

What next—Stormfront, maybe GoV?

Wait 'til we get to Breivik....

223 Sionainn  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 12:03:23pm

re: #205 simoom

This actually seems to be representative of the main pushback the RW blogs (Malkin, Redstate, etc) are going with:

The idea seems to be that because President Obama, his campaign and surrogates have mocked Birtherism through humor, that means they've told Birther jokes too, so they're hypocrits and they're trying to unfairly reserve the privilege of telling Birther jokes to themselves.

There seems to be a fundamental lack of understanding as to the clear differance between mocking bigoted idiocy and pandering to it in front of a receptive audience:

[Link: www.buzzfeed.com...]

The old "I'm not a birther, but..."

224 wrenchwench  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 12:05:11pm

re: #211 Gus

Ask him about the Romney family in Mexico. You know. The one that Mitt never stops talking about. (cough)

Youtube Video

From here.

225 Gus  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 12:05:15pm

D'Souza on Abu Ghraib

With regard to the Abu Ghraib torture and prisoner abuse, D'Souza asserted that the abuse to the prisoners was due to the "sexual immodesty of liberal America" and that Abu Ghraib reflected "the values of a debauched liberalism run amok." Dinesh also claims that had Charles Graner and Lynndie England been "professors at an elite liberal arts college, their videotaped orgies might easily have become the envy of academia. If they were artists staging these pictures in a loft in SoHo they could have been hailed as pioneers and encouraged by leftist admirers to apply for a grant from the National Endowment for the Arts."

Enough already. The man is an idiot.

226 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 12:05:24pm

re: #223 Sionainn

The old "I'm not a birther, but..."

They're the new truthers. Same paranoid bullshit, different subject.

227 Jolo5309  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 12:06:24pm

re: #121 dragonath

I'm totally expecting Trump's alleged Obama impersonator to make a birther joke during the convention. You know they want to.

You do understand the "alleged Obama impersonator" is Romney in black face?

228 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 12:06:51pm

re: #225 Gus

D'Souza on Abu Ghraib

Enough already. The man is an idiot.

Yeah, he's batshit. How the fuck do you turn Abu Ghraib into a twisted rant about liberal academia? I'll tell you how. You have to be one deranged fuck and that's what he is as seen in his praising of the Taliban's values in contrast with American liberal ones.

229 Gus  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 12:07:24pm

re: #224 wrenchwench

[Embedded content]

From here.

Yep. All abandoned by Mitt Romney in order to maintain his image of whiteness as he did today. Mitt Romney maintained this distance throughout the years. This isn't just one crazed brother we're talking a long line of extended family and cousins. The other aspect here is that he's not only distancing himself from their Mexican roots but the polygamist aspect of why the Romney family even went (some would say escaped) to Mexico.

230 makeitstop  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 12:09:21pm

re: #201 Sionainn

I bookmarked it to read later. You people are keeping me from my work.

need I?/////

His take on Bob Costas is amazing. I linked to one article, but go to the main page and read a bunch.

He's like the Rude Pundit without the gratuitous obscenity, and Riley is uproariously funny.

231 Gus  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 12:12:55pm

re: #228 HappyWarrior

Yeah, he's batshit. How the fuck do you turn Abu Ghraib into a twisted rant about liberal academia? I'll tell you how. You have to be one deranged fuck and that's what he is as seen in his praising of the Taliban's values in contrast with American liberal ones.

Abu Ghraib was a disgrace and far more than something "about pictures". It was an almost systematic abuse of prisoners of wars. Physical and emotional abuse beyond the realms of any normal decent living human being. It was a disgrace for those who serve and serve well. It was immoral and unethical and a black for America's image which suffered as a result of these acts. To conflate this into some diatribe about liberals and art is unimaginable. It had nothing to do with liberal or conservatives but instead everything to do with humanity.

232 Gus  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 12:14:51pm

D'Souza on Barack Obama

At the conclusion of a commentary article for Forbes magazine about President Barack Obama, D'Souza writes:

"...[O]ur President is trapped in his father's time machine. Incredibly, the U.S. is being ruled according to the dreams of a Luo tribesman of the 1950s. This philandering, inebriated African socialist, who raged against the world for denying him the realization of his anticolonial ambitions, is now setting the nation's agenda through the reincarnation of his dreams in his son. The son makes it happen, but he candidly admits he is only living out his father's dream. The invisible father provides the inspiration, and the son dutifully gets the job done. America today is governed by a ghost."

However, D'Souza has received criticism for what some have argued are dishonest and factually incorrect claims regarding Barack Obama.

233 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 12:15:54pm

re: #231 Gus

Abu Ghraib was a disgrace and far more than something "about pictures". It was an almost systematic abuse of prisoners of wars. Physical and emotional abuse beyond the realms of any normal decent living human being. It was a disgrace for those who serve and serve well. It was immoral and unethical and a black for America's image which suffered as a result of these acts. To conflate this into some diatribe about liberals and art is unimaginable. It had nothing to do with liberal or conservatives but instead everything to do with humanity.

Yep, no kidding. I'll tell you what made me more upset were people comparing what happened there to fraternity pranks.

234 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 12:16:03pm

re: #131 Bulworth

As if their social views and plans for the safety net weren't bad enough...

Unfortunately for the GOP, there are huge policy problems with a gold standard. As Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke pointed out, there isn’t enough gold to back the supply of money the economy actually needs.

In fact all of the gold currently held by both the Citizens and Government of the United States of America has a monetary value that is less than one sixth of all the paper currency currently in circulation.

In fact all of the available and already refined gold on the entire planet earth is not enough to back a U.S.A. currency that amounts to 10-12 trillion dollars in annual exchanges even at it's current highly inflated price per ounce.

The return to the Gold standard is a non-nonsensical and completely impossible pipe dream that is sold as a panacea to people whose knowledge of how the world financial markets actually work is so rudimentary and infantile that attempts to explain or reason with them is futile.

Also...

Worse, a gold standard would shackle monetary policy’s ability to respond to economic downturns. Interest rates could not be lowered to combat recessions or high unemployment. Instead, they would be driven by the price fluctuations of the gold supply, regardless of the needs of the broader economy.

A return to the gold standard would mean that our national currency value would be set by commodities markets, not by the Fed, and not by the state of our overall economy. Nope, the value of a dollar would be set by the price of gold on the commodities exchange, and therefore so would interest rates, and foreign exchange values.

Think about that for just a minute, does anyone in their right mind want the traders desks at the mercantile exchange setting the value of the dollar, of the interest rates for your mortgage or credit lines, or setting the dollars value in relation to other currencies?

All the "gold standard" would amount to in reality is another way for privileged insiders in the commodities market to legally steal the bread off the table of those not so fortunate in birth, education, or job placement. I'd laugh at the "Paulites" backing this who honestly seem to believe that this would somehow help to "level the playing field" instead of actually making it more uneven and immeasurably worse than ever.

Whatever, wish all you want Paulites, it simply cannot happen because of one simple and inescapable fact. There is no where near enough gold on the entire planet to allow a return to a universal gold standard, not unless you arbitrarily set the price of gold to more than $170,000 an ounce...good luck with that. :p

235 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 12:18:47pm

re: #232 Gus

D'Souza on Barack Obama

However, D'Souza has received criticism for what some have argued are dishonest and factually incorrect claims regarding Barack Obama.

THe only one raging is D'Sousa. Seriously, you hear from the right wing pundits about what an angry and resentful person Obama is. It's a classic propaganda technique. Be hateful as you can be while you accuse your opponent of being the real hateful one. I don't see hate coming from Obama. From people like D'Sousa, I see it oozing.

236 simoom  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 12:33:28pm

re: #205 simoom

Some more pleased Birther audience reaction:

[Link: politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...]

... the crowd roared when Romney made the quip, and many supporters afterwards said they remained skeptical about where Obama was born.

"I thought it was great because why should we have to worry about whether the president has a birth certificate or not," Guy Myers of Clarkston, Michigan, said.

Another supporter, Lauri Pierce of Midland, said it drew a contrast for her between Romney and Obama.

"Well Mitt's from Michigan. There's no question about where he's from," Pierce said. "And you hear a lot of questions about Obama. You don't know, but you hear questions."

237 Barflytom  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 12:40:53pm

re: #219 allegro

It may well be that George Obama tailors his story to suit whoever is interviewing him at the time - he's an Obama after all !

Most of the pieces I've read about him lean towards the penniless town drunk angle though, which if correct rather nicely illustrates the general liberal tendency to claim to want to help people in the abstract, while being extremely reluctant to put their hands in their own pockets.

Look up your own figures for donations to charity in red states vs blue, conservatives vs liberals etc.

As for D'Souza, I don't really go with his "anti-colonialist" theory.
Bill Clinton got Obama right, in my opinion, describing him as an "off the peg Chicago politician".
BHO seems to me to be just a standard leftie, with a head full of half-baked left wing theories, and there's really not much more to him than that. The only relevance his mildly exotic background has is that it helped him advance his career at an astonishing rate, without ever actually achieving anything.

Plenty of people have foreign born parents, or spend some of their childhood overseas without turning in to anti-American socialists.

238 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 12:57:00pm

re: #237 Barflytom

Plenty of people have foreign born parents, or spend some of their childhood overseas without turning in to anti-American socialists.

Sadly, for the racists, the President is neither Anti-American or a Socialist.

239 Mich-again  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 1:07:15pm
The only relevance his mildly exotic background has is that it helped him advance his career at an astonishing rate, without ever actually achieving anything.

That's an utterly ridiculous statement. The shtupid runs deep.

240 Mich-again  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 1:10:49pm

re: #234 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You

Whatever, wish all you want Paulites, it simply cannot happen because of one simple and inescapable fact. There is no where near enough gold on the entire planet to allow a return to a universal gold standard, not unless you arbitrarily set the price of gold to more than $170,000 an ounce...good luck with that. :p

And that wouldn't even work because they still mine new gold every day. About 2500 tonnes of gold per year. At $170,000 per ounce, that would be in the trillions of dollars every year just to buy the new gold.

241 Barflytom  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 1:29:06pm

re: #239 Mich-again

That's an utterly ridiculous statement. The shtupid runs deep.

Perhaps you could list some of his achievements as a State Senator and a US Senator (other than voting "present" about a thousand times) ?

Or give an example of concrete, measurable results to show for the 100 million he and Bill Ayers squandered on the Annenberg Challenge ?

Or anything interesting or original he came up with during his career as a legal scholar ?

Getting elected or appointed to something doesn't count as an achievement in itself - you're supposed to do something as well.

I note also that as President he squandered more money on just one of his many crony deals than Romney made during his entire career at Bain (I guess that's an "achievement" of sorts, but not quite what I had in mind).

242 palomino  Fri, Aug 24, 2012 7:58:26pm

re: #241 Barflytom

Perhaps you could list some of his achievements as a State Senator and a US Senator (other than voting "present" about a thousand times) ?

Or give an example of concrete, measurable results to show for the 100 million he and Bill Ayers squandered on the Annenberg Challenge ?

Or anything interesting or original he came up with during his career as a legal scholar ?

Getting elected or appointed to something doesn't count as an achievement in itself - you're supposed to do something as well.

I note also that as President he squandered more money on just one of his many crony deals than Romney made during his entire career at Bain (I guess that's an "achievement" of sorts, but not quite what I had in mind).

Yes, his ethnicity got him elected...just like all those black politicians before him who exploited their race to get elected US senator and then president.

What does George Obama have to do with Romney's dog whistle about Obama's birth certificate?

I guess bin Laden being dead and the auto industry being alive means nothing. Right, no achievements whatsoever. Lily Ledbetter, DADT, etc.

Your hysterical ODS is showing and it's not pretty at all. Sad, you're a pathetic dead ender and the America that you imagine is gone. Get used to it or be roadkill. And, with all due respect, it's time for you to go fuck yourself.

243 Barflytom  Sat, Aug 25, 2012 1:13:59am

re: #242 palomino

Yes, his ethnicity got him elected...just like all those black politicians before him who exploited their race to get elected US senator and then president.

What does George Obama have to do with Romney's dog whistle about Obama's birth certificate?

I guess bin Laden being dead and the auto industry being alive means nothing. Right, no achievements whatsoever. Lily Ledbetter, DADT, etc.

Your hysterical ODS is showing and it's not pretty at all. Sad, you're a pathetic dead ender and the America that you imagine is gone. Get used to it or be roadkill. And, with all due respect, it's time for you to go fuck yourself.

Well I appreciate the polite, civil tone which you lefties always bring to a discussion.

So Obama bailed out the auto industry - good for him, that was probably the lesser of evils at the time. It would have been nice if he'd done it without favouring his union buddies at the expense of bondholders, non-union workers, Republican car dealers etc etc.

As for the bin Laden raid, the course of action he eventually consented to was the one with the lowest practical reward, but the highest political reward compared with the risks taken (by others...).

He could have used the al Zarqawi example and just dropped a couple of 500 lb bombs on the house - he hasn't been squeamish about causing civilian casualties with drone attacks. That would have put fewer American lives at risk, and produced the same end result - the value of any intelligence gained from the computer files taken was probably mostly lost when BHO went on television about a nanosecond after the raid was over to brag about it. The disadvantage is that it would have made a less dramatic movie script for BHO's Hollywood buddies.

It seems likely that OBL could have been captured alive, then interrogated, and then executed after any useful information had been extracted from him. But, making the most of that would have required keeping quiet about it for as long as possible, something which Barry the Bragger is obviously incapable of. In other words, he botched it, but he did manage to extract the most political advantage for himself out of it.

As for repealing DADT, did it ever occur to you that the military exists to defend the nation's interests, rather than to provide interesting career opportunities for gay people ?

And if you really think the Fair Pay Act (aka 'Trial Lawyers Huge Fees Act') is an "achievement", then I'm at a loss as to what to say to you.

Does it ever occur to you lefties to judge government actions by actual results rather than intentions ?

244 Coracle  Sat, Aug 25, 2012 8:20:08am

You're a self-parody, Barfly.


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