Chris Matthews Goes Nuclear: GOP Is Playing the Race Card

Matthews at his best
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This is an excellent start to the week as Chris Matthews really goes after Reince Priebus, calling out the Republican Party and Mitt Romney for their outrageous racist pandering. This is Matthews at his best, doing what journalists should do, asking tough questions and refusing to take BS for an answer.

Yes, folks. Chris Matthews is absolutely correct. Birtherism is racism.

Priebus: I’m not going to get into a shouting match with Chris.

Matthews: Because you’re losing, that’s why.

Priebus: Garbage.

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428 comments
1 bluecheese  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 9:22:48am

this is the rMoney's campaign crying fowl over obama hitting him on bain etc.....

them bain adds are aimed at white folks

2 darthstar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 9:23:59am

You just need to learn how to take a joke. But don't ask us to explain it, because it makes us look even more bigoted than we already do.

3 darthstar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 9:24:47am

re: #1 bluecheese

this is the rMoney's campaign crying fowl over obama hitting him on bain etc.....

them bain adds are aimed at white folks

The Bain ads hit everyone, regardless of race. But blue-collar whites definitely were well targeted.

4 Gus  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 9:25:19am

Related. Just a few minutes ago Romney surrogate and RNC speaker (now cancelled) Donald Trump, was blowing his birther whistle:

5 HappyWarrior  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 9:26:23am

Birtherism is rooted in both xenophobia and racism. And the RNC definitely encourages it. Of course, when you acknowledge that you're either a stupid libtard or a real racist for bringing it up.

6 erik_t  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 9:28:04am

Now y'see, I think it's very clear that the GOP does care deeply about black people.

Just look at how hard they're trying to make Michael Steele look competent in retrospect.

7 Bulworth  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 9:29:09am

re: #4 Gus

Related. Just a few minutes ago Romney surrogate and RNC speaker (now cancelled) Donald Trump, was blowing his birther whistle:

Yeah King Birther Trump wants the GOP to go on the "offensive" re: birther jokes. Maybe he wants them to make more birther jokes, or something. God help us should this party win in November.

8 erik_t  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 9:29:51am

re: #7 Bulworth

Yeah King Birther Trump wants the GOP to go on the "offensive" re: birther jokes. Maybe he wants them to make more birther jokes, or something. God help us should this party win in November.

"Offensive" is exactly the right word for birther bullshit.

9 AK-47%  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 9:29:55am

I would not equate birtherism directly to racism, but I would equate it to the same narrow-minded idiocy that leads to bigotry and racism...

Time to call the RNC out on this level of low-brow idiocy.

And there is nothing "low-blow" about equating Akin to Ryan, and by association with Romney. It is not like Ryan was simply tainted by association with Akin, they worked together to draft anti-abortion legislation. That represents a very close level of association and common views and values.

10 Charles Johnson  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 9:30:07am

Yup. Donald Trump is speaking for the right wing base, a majority of whom think Barack Obama is a sinister Muslim impostor.

11 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 9:30:53am

re: #7 Bulworth

Yeah King Birther Trump wants the GOP to go on the "offensive" re: birther jokes. Maybe he wants them to make more birther jokes, or something. God help us should this party win in November.

Trump wants to double down on Teh Stupid: FAIL.

How did this idiot get to become so rich? Was all of it from Daddy?

12 Mich-again  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 9:31:35am

Then Priebus really goes out in the weeds by claiming Obama is taking cues from Europe on how to deal with the economy. That's totally wrong. Europe is hell bent on fixing their economy by shrinking it, the same failed strategy that every single GOP candidate has been pushing since GWB left office.
This is advanced projectionism byt the GOP party leader.

13 HappyWarrior  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 9:31:40am

re: #11 Learned Mother of Zion

Trump wants to double down on Teh Stupid: FAIL.

How did this idiot get to become so rich? Was all of it from Daddy?

Daddy. From what everyone says, he's a shittastic businessman himself.

14 HappyWarrior  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 9:32:47am

re: #12 Mich-again

Then Priebus really goes out in the weeds by claiming Obama is taking cues from Europe on how to deal with the economy. That's totally wrong. Europe is hell bent on fixing their economy by shrinking it, the same failed strategy that every single GOP candidate has been pushing since GWB left office.
This is advanced projectionism byt the GOP party leader.

But but Euro socialism. Anyhow, someone pointed in a discussion in one of the pages I think that the RNC and its candidates are taking their cues from Austrian School style economics more and more these days. Last I saw Austria was in wait for it, EUROPE!

15 Decatur Deb  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 9:34:10am

There is no way the President will not have a super-certified layer-free copy of his BC in his jacket pocket at the first debate.

16 Mich-again  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 9:35:28am

re: #10 Charles Johnson

Yup. Donald Trump is speaking for the right wing base, a majority of whom think Barack Obama is a sinister Muslim impostor.

Anyone who tells Donald Trump to shut his piehole will end up regretting they ever said a thing.

17 Kragar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 9:36:16am

re: #10 Charles Johnson

Yup. Donald Trump is speaking for the right wing base, a majority of whom think Barack Obama is a sinister Muslim impostor.

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Take the offensive? Trump has been offensive for years.

18 Kragar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 9:37:18am

Christian Broadcasting Network Wonders if Prayer Moved Storm Away From Tampa to Protect the RNC

Today on the 700 Club, Christian Broadcasting Network correspondent Paul Strand spoke to Jesten Peters of Keys of Authority Ministries who said that her organization’s prayer efforts helped steer Tropical Storm Isaac away from Tampa in order to protect the Republican National Convention. But while Peters and CBN celebrated, Isaac is now heading to Louisiana and Mississippi with potential devastating consequences. CBN’s Pat Robertson in 1985 said that his prayer moved Hurricane Gloria away from Virginia Beach, were CBN is based, and towards New York, and earlier this year said that prayer could’ve stopped a string of deadly tornadoes.

19 Bulworth  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 9:38:29am
Today on the 700 Club, Christian Broadcasting Network correspondent Paul Strand spoke to Jesten Peters of Keys of Authority Ministries who said that her organization’s prayer efforts helped steer Tropical Storm Isaac away from Tampa in order to protect the Republican National Convention.

Because God is a Republicon. //

20 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 9:38:30am

After the reports this weekend that Romney is going to go after Obama over "cultural issues" I wouldn't be surprised if the GOP convention turns into a klan rally by the end of the week.

21 Kragar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 9:39:18am

Birthers Plan Their Own Convention Next Month In Arizona

While the Republican Party gears up for its biggest event of the year next week in Florida, the conspiracy theorists among them are already looking forward to another convention of sorts next month in Arizona.

Some of the best known birthers in the nation are scheduled to take the stage at a star-studded event in Phoenix, where they plan to call for Congress to investigate whether President Obama’s birth certificate is real.

There will be singing. There will be speeches. Drinks will be available for purchase. The only question is whether the venue, which features seating in the round, will activate its spinning stage. Promoters are calling it “A Greater Phoenix Tea Party Patriots Event” but you can call it Birtherpalooza.

22 Decatur Deb  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 9:39:46am

re: #18 Kragar

Christian Broadcasting Network Wonders if Prayer Moved Storm Away From Tampa to Protect the RNC

Keys of Authority Ministries In Class-action Suit Brought by New Orleans "Isaac" Survivors

23 Gus  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 9:40:44am

re: #18 Kragar

Christian Broadcasting Network Wonders if Prayer Moved Storm Away From Tampa to Protect the RNC

Now who could have seen that coming.

24 HappyWarrior  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 9:40:55am

re: #21 Kragar

Birthers Plan Their Own Convention Next Month In Arizona

Oh please do and show the whole country that you're jackasses. Really a whole convention dedicated to a loony conspiracy theory?

25 Kragar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 9:41:10am

re: #19 Bulworth

Because God is a Republicon. //

"Dear God, please forget all those kids with cancer and the poor and the suffering around the world and take a few minutes to make sure Tampa has nice weather. Thanks, the RNC."

26 Kragar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 9:42:06am

re: #24 HappyWarrior

Oh please do and show the whole country that you're jackasses. Really a whole convention dedicated to a loony conspiracy theory?

We're already in the middle of one, who needs another?

27 Bulworth  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 9:43:01am

re: #21 Kragar

Birthers Plan Their Own Convention Next Month In Arizona

I guess some people just have all kinds of time and money to throw around going to conventions....

Don't these people work?

28 abolitionist  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 9:43:25am

re: #23 Gus

Now who could have seen that coming.

The governor of Louisiana?

29 Gus  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 9:44:22am

Edit [Deleted]

30 HappyWarrior  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 9:44:38am

re: #26 Kragar

We're already in the middle of one, who needs another?

But this one will have singing!

31 andres  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 9:45:40am

As I said on teresa's page, I don't like Mathews much, but here he's doing his job. A shame the rest of the panel went MBF.

This type of questioning is what I'd expect from journalists. Candidates shouldn't be given wiggle room if they're saying lies and half truths.

re: #20 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

After the reports this weekend that Romney is going to go after Obama over "cultural issues" I wouldn't be surprised if the GOP convention turns into a klan rally by the end of the week.

You mean it isn't yet? With 7 (scheduled) birthers?

32 Bulworth  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 9:45:46am

re: #30 HappyWarrior

But this one will have singing!

Also too a teabagging convention in Arizona can have "stars" from the D-list like Sheriff Joe....oh wait.

33 HappyWarrior  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 9:45:56am

re: #29 Gus

I was too important to go to Vietnam. -- Mitt Romney

I'm a dumbass- satire.

34 Kragar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 9:46:02am

re: #29 Gus

I was too important to go to Vietnam. -- Mitt Romney

"Free Wood Post is a news and political satire web publication, which may or may not use real names, often in semi-real or mostly fictitious ways. All news articles contained within FreeWoodPost.com are fiction, and presumably fake news."

35 Decatur Deb  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 9:46:21am

re: #30 HappyWarrior

But this one will have singing!

Prussian Blue isn't doing those gigs any more.

36 Gus  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 9:46:35am

re: #34 Kragar

"Free Wood Post is a news and political satire web publication, which may or may not use real names, often in semi-real or mostly fictitious ways. All news articles contained within FreeWoodPost.com are fiction, and presumably fake news."

Oh shit. I fell for it. What the hell... Delete!

37 HappyWarrior  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 9:46:52am

re: #34 Kragar

"Free Wood Post is a news and political satire web publication, which may or may not use real names, often in semi-real or mostly fictitious ways. All news articles contained within FreeWoodPost.com are fiction, and presumably fake news."

Damn that's the second time I've fallen for one of theirs. So used to the Onion when it comes to satire.

38 jaunte  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 9:46:56am

Reince Priebus is such a faker. He can't keep it off of his face.

39 Obdicut  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 9:47:02am

re: #29 Gus

That's from a satire site.

40 b_sharp  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 9:47:21am

re: #18 Kragar

Christian Broadcasting Network Wonders if Prayer Moved Storm Away From Tampa to Protect the RNC

No way, God was busy with football and baseball.

41 Kragar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 9:47:46am

"“It just seems funny the first joke he’s ever told in his life is about Obama’s birth certificate" - Chris Matthews

Whammy.

42 Gus  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 9:48:13am

re: #39 Obdicut

That's from a satire site.

I know. I even know that the Free Wood post site is satire. Wasn't thinking. In any case I deleted that post and Tweet. Even though... we know that's probably what he was thinking. ;)

43 Obdicut  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 9:48:21am

I just got a totally random (and nice) gift in the mail from a friend (and ex-girlfriend).

Good day.

44 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 9:48:55am

re: #40 b_sharp

No way, God was busy with football and baseball.

And playing with the crowd by starting a Tebow moment... and then having him throw a pick. HaHa.
/

45 Decatur Deb  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 9:49:21am

re: #39 Obdicut

That's from a satire site.

This isn't:

“one of the ways my sons are showing support for our nation is helping to get me elected.”

[Link: thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com...]

46 abolitionist  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 9:49:32am

re: #43 Obdicut

I just got a totally random (and nice) gift in the mail from a friend (and ex-girlfriend).

Good day.

You must've been doing something right.

47 makeitstop  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 9:49:50am

God damn, Priebus is a lot dumber than I gave him credit for.

He sounded like a whiny kid with all that 'Okay, so you got your monologue' crap. Tweety kicked his ass, and he was showing bruises before the segment was even over.

And Brokaw should be ashamed of riding the poor MBF so hard.

48 Gus  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 9:50:37am

Duh-e! ;)

49 Kragar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 9:52:18am

Oh, new toy coming soon...

Image: m2540261a_60010199006_DVHelbrute01_873x627.jpg

50 blueraven  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 9:54:55am

re: #47 makeitstop

God damn, Priebus is a lot dumber than I gave him credit for.

He sounded like a whiny kid with all that 'Okay, so you got your monologue' crap. Tweety kicked his ass, and he was showing bruises before the segment was even over.

And Brokaw should be ashamed of riding the poor MBF so hard.

It's not that he is so dumb, its that there is no reasonable defense for what Romney said. So any attempt to blow it off as a "moment of levity" is automatic fail.

As I recall rw pundits went after Obama pretty hard on his Seamus joke.

51 AK-47%  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 9:55:13am

re: #49 Kragar

Oh, new toy coming soon...

Image: m2540261a_60010199006_DVHelbrute01_873x627.jpg

Brother-in-law is big into fantasy gaming, gave some Urban Combat figures, which I mostly use to practice my acrylic technique, as I have put Napoleonics aside in favor of Samurai armies.

Have ashigaru.

52 Lidane  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 9:55:44am

The Doughy One is having a bummer day:

53 Gus  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 9:56:50am

Uh oh. Here comes another round of "Moozlamic Raygunz!"

54 b_sharp  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 9:57:34am

re: #38 jaunte

Reince Priebus is such a faker. He can't keep it off of his face.

An arrogant fakir, trained to work with monkeys and to charm snakes. That's why Matthews didn't fall for his shit.

55 b_sharp  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 9:58:26am

re: #43 Obdicut

I just got a totally random (and nice) gift in the mail from a friend (and ex-girlfriend).

Good day.

The only thing an ex-girlfriend left me with was scabies.

56 Kragar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 9:58:41am

re: #51 Expand Your Ground

Brother-in-law is big into fantasy gaming, gave some Urban Combat figures, which I mostly use to practice my acrylic technique, as I have put Napoleonics aside in favor of Samurai armies.

Have ashigaru.

They're supposed to have an entire new range of Chaos stuff coming out later this year and this was a peek. I can't wait to see what else they've got coming, especially if they're bringing the cultists back to the rules. I've got some Imperial Guard I could convert over.

57 Charles Johnson  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 9:58:48am

re: #42 Gus

I know. I even know that the Free Wood post site is satire. Wasn't thinking. In any case I deleted that post and Tweet. Even though... we know that's probably what he was thinking. ;)

I love the Onion and I love political satire, but what FreeWoodPost is doing borders on fraud. It seems to me that they're writing these articles specifically to trick people into thinking they're genuine. Satire is supposed to be funny, not just a slightly exaggerated version of the real thing. There's no humor in what they're doing.

I'm not a fan.

58 Lidane  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 9:58:59am
59 b_sharp  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 9:59:17am

re: #44 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

And playing with the crowd by starting a Tebow moment... and then having him throw a pick. HaHa.
/

Tebow hasn't yet realized that God is just fuckin' with him.

60 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:00:22am

Peddling Mormonism to the wine-loving French could not have been an easy task. Mitt reportedly was wounded during his service there, a bruised jaw received in a confrontation with some drunken rugby players who had been bothering a couple of female missionaries.

I think war was probably harder though.

61 erik_t  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:00:28am

re: #57 Charles Johnson

I love the Onion and I love political satire, but what FreeWoodPost is doing borders on fraud. It seems to me that they're writing these articles specifically to trick people into thinking they're genuine. Satire is supposed to be funny, not just a slightly exaggerated version of the real thing. There's no humor in what they're doing.

I'm not a fan.

I agree.

On the other hand, if it ended up making everyone (everyone everyone, not just LGF) think critically about what they read/see/hear in every media source, I think that would be a worthwhile sacrifice.

62 b_sharp  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:00:32am

re: #49 Kragar

Oh, new toy coming soon...

Image: m2540261a_60010199006_DVHelbrute01_873x627.jpg

What the fuck is that?

63 Kragar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:00:44am

re: #58 Lidane

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"non-Christian faiths are incapable of producing ideas like democracy or equality"

Some one call the Greeks and tell them they retroactively didn't invent democracy.

64 Gus  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:00:48am

re: #57 Charles Johnson

I love the Onion and I love political satire, but what FreeWoodPost is doing borders on fraud. It seems to me that they're writing these articles specifically to trick people into thinking they're genuine. Satire is supposed to be funny, not just a slightly exaggerated version of the real thing. There's no humor in what they're doing.

I'm not a fan.

Seriously. It worked and I should have double checked. What I read wasn't even at the Free Wood Post and was a copy and paste job.

65 HappyWarrior  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:00:51am

re: #58 Lidane

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It's the usual Christianity Above All mindset that we see a lot of with people like this. If you ain't a conservative evangelical Christian, you ain't shit is how they see people who aren't that.

66 Kragar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:01:26am

re: #62 b_sharp

Awesomeness.

Looks to be a new kind of Chaos dreadnaught.

67 HappyWarrior  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:02:08am

re: #63 Kragar

"non-Christian faiths are incapable of producing ideas like democracy or equality"

Some one call the Greeks and tell them they retroactively didn't invent democracy.

Yeah no kidding. Oh and the fact that for much of Christianity's history, non-democratic governments ruled but hey Christianity is the only answer. These people really are starting to live up to the Christo-fascist label I see them get sometimes.

68 Lidane  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:02:30am

GOP minority outreach not going so well:

ZERO retweets so far.

69 The Ghost of a Flea  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:03:46am

re: #54 b_sharp

An arrogant fakir, trained to work with monkeys and to charm snakes. That's why Matthews didn't fall for his shit.

I grew up around monkey trainers and snake charmers.

They're much, much better at misdirection and working a crowd than Reince Preibus.

70 HappyWarrior  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:04:10am

re: #68 Lidane

GOP minority outreach not going so well:

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ZERO retweets so far.

Hey, Mitt understands the issues that are important to Hispanic voters. He's eaten at Taco Bell & Chipolte before.//

71 Kragar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:04:20am

re: #67 HappyWarrior

I'm confused by people who think women and minorities should shut up and know their place bragging about equality.

72 b_sharp  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:04:48am

re: #66 Kragar

Awesomeness.

Looks to be a new kind of Chaos dreadnaught.

Hey, I love chaos.

73 Decatur Deb  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:05:01am

re: #69 The Ghost of a Flea

I grew up around monkey trainers and snake charmers.

They're much, much better at misdirection and working a crowd than Reince Preibus.

Smarter crowds.

74 HappyWarrior  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:05:31am

re: #71 Kragar

I'm confused by people who think women and minorities should shut up and know their place bragging about equality.

Me too but these are people who think tyranny is making health insurance more affordable and freedom is telling gay couples they can't marry on a secular level due to religious reasons.

75 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:05:48am

re: #63 Kragar

"non-Christian faiths are incapable of producing ideas like democracy or equality"

Some one call the Greeks and tell them they retroactively didn't invent democracy.

And Christianity seemed to get along with chattel slavery quite well for an extended period until those Enlightenment pricks screwed it all up!
///

76 b_sharp  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:05:59am

re: #69 The Ghost of a Flea

I grew up around monkey trainers and snake charmers.

They're much, much better at misdirection and working a crowd than Reince Preibus.

How about snake oil salesmen?

77 Lidane  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:06:37am
78 freetoken  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:06:55am

Since it looks like Isaac will hit somewhere around NOLA, will Bobby Jindal agree with CBN that their prayers sent it to him?

79 The Ghost of a Flea  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:06:55am

re: #76 b_sharp

How about snake oil salesmen?

The snake charmers were also snake oil salesmen.

...not kidding.

80 abolitionist  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:07:06am

re: #62 b_sharp

What the fuck is that?

Looks like a toy designed specifically to encourage little boys to prefer purses to pockets.

81 b_sharp  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:07:20am

I know how to get everybody back to work. Just fire all the women and send them back to their kitchens, where they belong.

82 Kragar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:07:26am

Romney Cites Businesswoman Who Presided Over Huge Losses And Job Cuts As Model For His Cabinet

While at Ebay, Whitman succeeded in boosting net income, but eventually left the company crippled due to disastrous acquisitions: “A year after Whitman bailed on eBay, the stock had sunk so low that employees were left holding onto stock options that would actually cost more than than eBay’s market stock price, making them worse than worthless.” Before moving to Ebay, Whitman was CEO of FTD.com, where she oversaw a fifty percent drop in business during her two-year tenure. And evidently this is the sort of experience Romney would like to bring to the federal government.

83 Kragar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:08:11am

re: #80 abolitionist

ITS A SATCHEL!

84 Interesting Times  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:08:34am
85 HappyWarrior  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:08:37am

re: #82 Kragar

Romney Cites Businesswoman Who Presided Over Huge Losses And Job Cuts As Model For His Cabinet

She'd fit right in.

86 lawhawk  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:08:44am

re: #23 Gus

Memo to CBN: Hey, what'd we do to deserve getting another hurricane instead of Tampa? /signed the entire Gulf Coast now under watches/warnings due to Isaac strengthening and setting sights on NOLA

87 erik_t  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:08:48am

re: #82 Kragar

Romney Cites Businesswoman Who Presided Over Huge Losses And Job Cuts As Model For His Cabinet

Better than Fiorina, I guess...?

88 b_sharp  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:08:56am

re: #83 Kragar

ITS A SATCHEL!

That's what it was called, a purse.

89 Gus  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:09:14am

BBL

90 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:09:53am

re: #82 Kragar

Romney Cites Businesswoman Who Presided Over Huge Losses And Job Cuts As Model For His Cabinet

Well, they want to shrink government. Making it suck and be even more inefficient is one way to increase the clamor for future cut-backs. Which, unfortunately is good for competitors, even governments.

(I'm sure there are people in backrooms in China who are sitting there and laughing since they couldn't *plant* a more destructive candidate if they tried.)

91 HappyWarrior  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:10:34am

re: #87 erik_t

Better than Fiorina, I guess...?

Ah Carly Fiorina the genius who claimed Sarah Palin's 1 1/2 years as governor better prepared her for the Oval Office than a man who had served in the US senate for more terms than Palin had years in office.

92 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:11:20am

re: #86 lawhawk

Memo to CBN: Hey, what'd we do to deserve getting another hurricane instead of Tampa? /signed the entire Gulf Coast now under watches/warnings due to Isaac strengthening and setting sights on NOLA

That's because even Nature prefers Bourbon Street to Tampa.
/

93 Charles Johnson  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:11:36am

Sometimes I like to rattle the Paulians' cages:

So far I've gotten about a dozen replies full of insults.

94 allegro  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:12:04am

re: #78 freetoken

Since it looks like Isaac will hit somewhere around NOLA, will Bobby Jindal agree with CBN that their prayers sent it to him?

God is just testing the levees.

95 b_sharp  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:12:16am

re: #93 Charles Johnson

Sometimes I like to rattle the Paulians' cages:

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So far I've gotten about a dozen replies full of insults.

Post them.

96 Decatur Deb  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:12:25am

re: #86 lawhawk

Memo to CBN: Hey, what'd we do to deserve getting another hurricane instead of Tampa? /signed the entire Gulf Coast now under watches/warnings due to Isaac strengthening and setting sights on NOLA

The outer rain band clouds are already over Baja Alabama-4 to seven inches expected. The wind will only get to 20-35 knots.

97 erik_t  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:12:54am

Wait, what?

WALLACE: In the wake of Congressman Todd Akin's comments last Sunday, the Obama campaign is once again attacking Republicans for what they call the so-called war on women. Now, I know that you have an economic argument about jobs and opportunity, but I'd like you to deal with the social issues aspect of this specifically. How do you answer the Obama charge that they offer more support, more choice to women when it comes to abortion or rape or birth control or women's health care?

ROMNEY: Well, first of all, with regards to women's health care, look, I'm the guy that was able to get health care for all of the women and men in my state. They're just talking about it at the federal level.

I guess Romney was due to flop back to his previous position sooner or later.

98 Kragar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:13:15am

Steve King: Victims Of Discrimination Must Stop Making Excuses And ‘Take Individual Responsibility’

the Tea Party Congressman doubled down on the claims in an appearance on “The Final Say” radio show this Thursday. “It’s not the multiculturalism that’s wrong, it’s the victimology, which has been the core of multiculturalism,” King reiterated. “People are being told that it’s not their fault, that it’s somebody else’s…That’s the excuse path. We need to have individual responsibility, a culture that supports it — that celebrates it — and one that discourages the slackers from lining up at the public trough and accepting the benefits of the sweat of someone else’s brow.”

99 Decatur Deb  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:13:19am

re: #93 Charles Johnson

Sometimes I like to rattle the Paulians' cages:

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So far I've gotten about a dozen replies full of insults.

Post them--haven't done a hate-mail donation in a while.

100 Kragar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:13:30am

re: #94 allegro

God's will!

101 b_sharp  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:13:37am

re: #96 Decatur Deb

The outer rain band clouds are already over Baja Alabama-4 to seven inches expected. The wind will only get to 20-35 knots.

I wish it would stay away from N'Orleans.

102 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:14:42am

OT: Preliminary NTSB results on the P-51 crash at a Reno air race last fall.

Points to the aircraft exceeding structural tolerances and also possibly loose screws in a tail assembly.

MSNBC Video

(apologies for it going video - trying to get link to text article)

103 Decatur Deb  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:14:50am

re: #101 b_sharp

I wish it would stay away from N'Orleans.

Good training, better than a Cat 3 or 4.

104 nines09  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:15:03am

I beginning to think that there is an alternate universe(s) and the GOP is from it. What we are witnessing is the absolution of lying and hatred in the GOP. It is now a favored trait.

105 Mocking Jay  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:15:36am

re: #97 erik_t

Wait, what?

I guess Romney was due to flop back to his previous position sooner or later.

Romney's going to end up firing himself before this is all over.

106 b_sharp  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:16:43am

re: #103 Decatur Deb

Good training, better than a Cat 3 or 4.

True, but we're supposed to go there in the spring.

107 Kragar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:17:00am

re: #104 Cleo 'O McEire Sod

A Mitt Romney with a mustache and goatee who is a really cool and funny guy who you trust would be a nice change.

108 b_sharp  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:17:30am

re: #105 Mocking Jay

Romney's going to end up firing himself before this is all over.

He'll probably hire The Donald to do it.

109 HappyWarrior  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:18:03am

re: #97 erik_t

Wait, what?

I guess Romney was due to flop back to his previous position sooner or later.

So, his point is that he was able to get health care for men and women in his state and that's great and it worked out fantastic but at the same time it's bad that Obama wants to do the same on a federal level. Sounds like Mitt wants to have it both ways again. What a joke he is.

110 HappyWarrior  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:19:06am

re: #98 Kragar

Steve King: Victims Of Discrimination Must Stop Making Excuses And ‘Take Individual Responsibility’

I saw that yesterday. Does King say the same thing to Christians or conservatives who have been discriminated against or is this stop being a victim crap only directed at gays, racial minorities, and women.

111 Kragar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:19:27am

re: #108 b_sharp

He'll just make him so uncomfortable he'll just end up quitting.

112 Charles Johnson  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:19:53am

Just watched this clip again, and Tom Brokaw was absolutely pathetic.

113 freetoken  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:20:15am

Worth reading:

Why Science Remains Culturally Irrelevant

[...]

[Feynman] goes on to take a jab at just how unscientific pop culture is -- and how culturally condoned certain unscientific beliefs are:

I believe that we must attack these things in which we do not believe. Not attack by the method of cutting off the heads of the people, but attack in the sense of discuss. I believe that we should demand that people try in their own minds to obtain for themselves a more consistent picture of their own world; that they not permit themselves the luxury of having their brain cut in four pieces or two pieces even, and on one side they believe this and on the other side they believe that, but never try to compare the two points of view. Because we have learned that, by trying to put the points of view that we have in our head together and comparing one to the other, we make some progress in understanding and in appreciating where we are and what we are. And I believe that science has remained irrelevant because we wait until somebody asks us questions or until we are invited to give a speech on Einstein's theory to people who don't understand Newtonian mechanics, but we never are invited to give an attack on faith healing, or on astrology -- on what is the scientific view of astrology today.

[...]

114 prairiefire  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:20:33am

re: #103 Decatur Deb

Good training, better than a Cat 3 or 4.

The Federal Government spent a lot of money to fix the levies. An act of congress approved it right after the disaster of Hurricane Katrina. Gee, see how that works?

115 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:22:00am

re: #114 prairiefire

The Federal Government spent a lot of money to fix the levies. An act of congress approved it right after the disaster of Hurricane Katrina. Gee, see how that works?

And you know that somewhere in that process some idiot ordered bushels of Cat V cable thinking they'd need that for proper reinforcement.
:p

116 Decatur Deb  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:22:36am

re: #114 prairiefire

The Federal Government spent a lot of money to fix the levies. An act of congress approved it right after the disaster of Hurricane Katrina. Gee, see how that works?

IIRC, congresses had appropriated Corps line items for years, but the money was not adequately 'fenced' and was diverted.

117 HappyWarrior  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:22:39am

Isn't it funny how we hear "STOP BEING A VICTIM AND WHINING" from some of the biggest professional victims and whiners out there.

118 Kragar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:23:15am

GOP Platform Attacks Obama Admin For Saying Climate Change Is A ‘Severe’ National Security Threat

“The strategy subordinates our national security interests to environmental, energy and international health issues, and elevates ‘climate change’ to the level of a ‘severe threat’ equivalent to foreign aggression. The word ‘climate,’ in fact, appears in the current President’s strategy more often than Al Qaeda, nuclear proliferation, radial Islam, or weapons of mass destruction. The phrase ‘global war on terror’ does not appear at all and has been purposely avoided and changed by his Administration to “overseas contingency operations.’

Last I heard, safeguarding natural resources was a crucial security concern.

119 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:23:25am

re: #98 Kragar

Steve King: Victims Of Discrimination Must Stop Making Excuses And ‘Take Individual Responsibility’

So King thinks the all-important first step is that these people take responsibility for not being white and thus accept their inferior status?
///

120 b_sharp  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:24:06am

re: #114 prairiefire

The Federal Government spent a lot of money to fix the levies. An act of congress approved it right after the disaster of Hurricane Katrina. Gee, see how that works?

No way! The levies built themselves.

121 wrenchwench  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:24:20am

re: #116 Decatur Deb

IIRC, congresses had appropriated Corps line items for years, but the money was not adequately 'fenced' and was diverted.

Maybe they needed some kind of levy around the funding.

122 lawhawk  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:25:04am

re: #116 Decatur Deb

It was spent on levees, but they weren't built or maintained properly, nor were they designed as an actual system. Rather, they were built as segments to deal with specific issues, but never brought together to deal with specific storm situations.

Much of the money spent on the levees since Katrina has been to integrate the system, installing new flood control systems, pumps with backup generators, storm surge diversion systems, and the closure of the MRGO canal with flood protection system installed.

123 freetoken  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:25:14am

When Priebus goes into "it's a non-starter" someone should have asked him right there why is Arpaio at the convention.

124 Decatur Deb  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:25:53am

BBL--driving a friend to pick up her new car.

125 wrenchwench  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:25:53am

re: #123 freetoken

When Priebus goes into "it's a non-starter" someone should have asked him right there why is Arpaio at the convention.

And Kris Kobach.

126 HappyWarrior  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:25:57am

re: #118 Kragar

GOP Platform Attacks Obama Admin For Saying Climate Change Is A ‘Severe’ National Security Threat

Last I heard, safeguarding natural resources was a crucial security concern.

It is but what does one realistically expect from the party that accuses the president who got Bin Laden of going around apologizing for America?

127 Kragar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:26:00am

re: #114 prairiefire

The Federal Government spent a lot of money to fix the levies. An act of congress approved it right after the disaster of Hurricane Katrina. Gee, see how that works?

My religious beliefs do not allow my tax dollars to be spent on protective irrigation systems. I demand all Federal funding for this abomination to be stopped at once due to my religious beliefs.
/

128 makeitstop  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:28:01am

re: #93 Charles Johnson

Sometimes I like to rattle the Paulians' cages:

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So far I've gotten about a dozen replies full of insults.

You're a cruel man, Charles Johnson. :D

129 b_sharp  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:28:34am

Never watch Johnny Cash's 'Hurt" video and then look in the mirror on your b'day.

130 Kragar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:30:05am

To everyone who says the solution to gun violence is we need more armed people going around...

All Nine Bystanders Injured During Friday’s Empire State Building Shooting Were Shot By Police

Despite some initial confusion shortly after police shot a man believed to have just murdered his former co-worker on Friday, ballistics tests now confirm that every single one of the nine bystanders shot in the confrontation between the gunman and two police officers were struck by a bullet fired from a police firearm:

131 Lidane  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:30:34am
132 makeitstop  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:30:37am

re: #106 b_sharp

True, but we're supposed to go there in the spring.

We've got tentative plans to go in October!

I hope NOLA is spared. I think they've had enough hurricane-related trouble to last them a while.

133 erik_t  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:31:06am

re: #130 Kragar

To everyone who says the solution to gun violence is we need more armed people going around...

All Nine Bystanders Injured During Friday’s Empire State Building Shooting Were Shot By Police

Guns, handguns in particular, are precision elements in that they damage precisely whatever their bullets end up running into.

134 Kragar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:32:28am

re: #129 b_sharp

I remember when that song came out. The DJ on the local station told everyone to stop what you're doing and listen to the song. After it played, he came back on. "Yes, I know it was a NIN song first, stop calling in, shut up and listen to the song. I'm playing it again and you will listen to it."

135 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:36:07am

Ron Paul delegates get nosebleed seats

Heh.

136 Lidane  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:36:56am

GOP Details Huge Medicare Change In Leaked Platform

“Under the defined contribution approach envisaged by the Rivlin-Ryan plan [a proposal that’s remarkably similar to the Romney campaigns], most of the risk of future health-care cost increases would be shifted onto the shoulders of Medicare beneficiaries,” Uwe Reinhardt, a health policy expert at Princeton University, said last year. “This feature makes the proposal radical.”

The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office has found that the plan will raise seniors’ out-of-pocket medical expenses by thousands of dollars, a fact Democrats hasten to point out. The draft Republican platform claims that the competition among private insurance plans will lead to major cost savings, though little evidence exists to support this argument.

137 Lidane  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:39:31am

I'm taking this with a few grains of salt, but anything's possible:

138 Sionainn  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:41:18am

re: #18 Kragar

Christian Broadcasting Network Wonders if Prayer Moved Storm Away From Tampa to Protect the RNC

Pat Robertson didn't pray enough during Hurricane Katrina. It's all his fault.

139 makeitstop  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:41:24am

re: #137 Lidane

I'm taking this with a few grains of salt, but anything's possible:

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Weather-related? Or canceled out of sheer embarrassment?

140 Lidane  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:42:45am
141 Kragar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:43:11am

Romney sons describe dad in one word

During an appearance on "Fox and Friends," the Romney brothers were asked to describe their dad in a single word. Craig chose "qualified." Ben picked "frugal." Josh was blunter than his brother, calling their dad "cheap." Matt picked "integrity," and Tagg said "generous."

Who describes their dad as "qualified"?

142 Lidane  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:43:12am

re: #139 makeitstop

Weather-related? Or canceled out of sheer embarrassment?

They finally realized they're about to nominate the creator of ObamaCare for POTUS.

143 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:43:56am

re: #139 makeitstop

Weather-related? Or canceled out of sheer embarrassment?

Or analysis indicating that the convention as currently scheduled will be more damaging to the GOP than not having it (or having a short rump one later with much tighter attendance control and message). And having Isaac as a really good excuse to use if this course is opted for.

144 Kragar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:44:43am

re: #138 Sionainn

And yet you never hear, "GOD DAMN IT, PAT! IF YOU HAD JUST PRAYED HARDER THEY WOULD HAVE LIVED! YOU BASTARD!"

145 blueraven  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:45:13am

re: #143 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Or analysis indicating that the convention as currently scheduled will be more damaging to the GOP than not having it (or having a short rump one later with much tighter attendance control and message). And having Isaac as a really good excuse to use if this course is opted for.

They are afraid of the split screen showing Isaac slam into the gulf coast.
Too many memories of Katrina.

146 darthstar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:45:48am

I was thinking about this last week...even if Tampa was spared by Isaac, its hitting the gulf coast during the convention would pull disaster coverage reporters from the RNC in Tampa to disasters that matter along the coast...

Mitt Romney was quoted as saying, "Can't a robot get a break?"

Isaac is proof that god hates Republicans.

But the series of conversations - occurring just hours later - made clear that the Romney staff also realizes that Isaac’s potentially horrid wrath could eclipse any bunting-draped imagery they generate inside the Tampa Bay Times Forum.

That would render the whole convention exercise a net loss for their candidate, rather than a positive force propelling him into the fall campaign.

Consider for a moment the juxtaposition of President Obama marshaling his administration’s forces and personally visiting New Orleans or Mobile, Ala., in the aftermath of the storm’s landfall, all while the convention hall is filled with delegates dressed in funny hats listening to partisan speeches.

Yeah...consider that...those fluffy pasty-white women in their big hats and their cutesy racist buttons with slogans like "Show us the birth certificate Obama!" (it's a joke! Get it?) won't get their cherished air time on TV.

147 darthstar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:47:24am

re: #140 Lidane

148 Lidane  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:48:27am

Romney HQ has a long way to go if they expect to get 38% of the Latino vote:

Poll: Latinos Prefer Obama By 39-Point Margin

A poll released on Monday from Latino Decisions shows that Latinos registered voters prefer President Barack Obama to presumptive Republican nominee Mitt Romney 65 percent to 26 percent. The results are in line with previous polls showing Obama ahead amongst the key demographic -- the PollTracker Average shows the President ahead of Romney by a 29.2 percent margin overall.

The poll also showed that 56 percent of Latinos also believe the GOP is ignoring their concerns, while 21 percent added that they believe the Republican Party is 'hostile' to Latinos.

149 Charles Johnson  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:48:42am

What is this I don't even

150 makeitstop  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:49:30am

re: #146 darthstar

Consider for a moment the juxtaposition of President Obama marshaling his administration’s forces and personally visiting New Orleans or Mobile, Ala., in the aftermath of the storm’s landfall, all while the convention hall is filled with delegates dressed in funny hats listening to partisan speeches.

That would prove devastating to Romney's prospects, IMO. Especially if the speakers go heavy on the silly stuff like birtherism that will rile up the base.

The rest of the country would look at a convention like that and seriously think twice about voting R.

151 blueraven  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:51:10am

re: #149 Charles Johnson

What is this I don't even

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so much projection in 140 characters

152 Lidane  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:52:15am

re: #149 Charles Johnson

That's hilarious. Does Donald Trump even know what sane is?

153 Talking Point Detective  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:53:05am

re: #17 Kragar

Take the offensive? Trump has been offensive for years.

Some jokes just write themselves, don't they?

154 Kragar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:54:57am

Tornado Warning Issued For Tampa Area

Its a sign, guys.

155 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:55:09am

re: #148 Lidane

Romney HQ has a long way to go if they expect to get 38% of the Latino vote:

Poll: Latinos Prefer Obama By 39-Point Margin

That is all the fault of the media for reporting what the GOP is saying and trying to do. If they didn't have such a liberal bias they would lie for the GOP and stand amidst the frenzied mob repeating "Remain calm. All is well." while the GOP Deathmobile runs amok in the smoke.
/

156 darthstar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:58:57am

re: #154 Kragar

Tornado Warning Issued For Tampa Area

Its a sign, guys.

God hates Republicans.

157 Kragar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:59:03am

Former Gov. Charlie Crist: Here's why I'm backing Barack Obama

As Republicans gather in Tampa to nominate Mitt Romney, Americans can expect to hear tales of how President Obama has failed to work with their party or turn the economy around.

But an element of their party has pitched so far to the extreme right on issues important to women, immigrants, seniors and students that they've proven incapable of governing for the people. Look no further than the inclusion of the Akin amendment in the Republican Party platform, which bans abortion, even for rape victims.

The truth is that the party has failed to demonstrate the kind of leadership or seriousness voters deserve.

158 darthstar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:59:35am

re: #157 Kragar

Former Gov. Charlie Crist: Here's why I'm backing Barack Obama

Looking forward to his speech at the DNC.

159 Lidane  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:59:47am

re: #157 Kragar

Former Gov. Charlie Crist: Here's why I'm backing Barack Obama

From what I understand, Crist is also going to speak at the DNC.

160 makeitstop  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 10:59:57am

Romney all-in with lies and dogwhistle

"There's no question in my mind that the president's action was calculated to... shore up his base. Weakening the work requirement in welfare is an enormous mistake."

I guess he figures it's his only shot at this point.

He'll end his political career in utter disgrace by doing this, and he doesn't seem to care.

161 Kragar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:00:11am

re: #155 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Ron Paul: "RAMMING SPEED!"

162 b_sharp  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:00:49am

re: #152 Lidane

That's hilarious. Does Donald Trump even know what sane is?

He's relying on his hair to know.

163 Lidane  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:01:54am
164 Someone Please Beam Me Up!  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:01:57am

re: #154 Kragar

Tornado Warning Issued For Tampa Area

Its a sign, guys.

Not enough prayer?

165 Kragar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:02:32am

Tea Party at the RNC:

This nation has done more good for more people than any other nation in the world. And this is the nation that Barack Obama, Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi want to diminish and destroy.

Today, freedom and liberty stand in opposition to socialism. You know, the primary products of the system that Barack Obama, Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi love so well are poverty, tyranny and occasionally mass murder.

These are the fruits of socialism, and to the socialists we have simply one word, "no!"

Friends, we are not going to go quietly into that dark night of socialist tyranny.

166 Kragar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:02:49am

re: #164 Someone Please Beam Me Up!

Not enough prayer?

DAMMIT PAT!

167 Petero1818  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:06:23am

re: #165 Kragar

Its true, just this morning I heard Gretchen Carlson say so. Get you pitchforks. We need to run these darn socialists out of town all tar and feathered.///

168 Kragar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:08:39am

Reports saying Christie was offered the VP slot, but turned Mitt down, Ryan was the back up

Gov. Chris Christie wasn’t willing to give up the New Jersey statehouse to be Mitt Romney’s running mate because he doubted they’d win, The Post has learned.

Romney’s top aides had demanded Christie step down as the state’s chief executive because if he didn’t, strict pay-to-play laws would have restricted the nation’s largest banks from donating to the campaign — since those banks do business with New Jersey.

But Christie adamantly refused to sacrifice his post, believing that being Romney’s running mate wasn’t worth the gamble.

“[Christie] felt, at one point, that [President] Obama could lose this. And, look, there still is that chance. But he knows, right now, you have to say it’s unlikely,” one source said.

The tough-talking governor believed Romney severely damaged his campaign by releasing only limited tax returns and committing several gaffes during his international tour in July.

Certain Romney was doomed, Christie stuck to his guns — even as some of his own aides pushed him to run, another source said.

169 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:09:27am

Moonbats or winguts?
U.S. Soldiers Plotted to Kill President Obama

170 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:10:00am

Prosecutor: Ga. murder case uncovers terror plot

LUDOWICI, Ga. —
Four Army soldiers based in southeast Georgia killed a former comrade and his girlfriend to protect an anarchist militia group they formed that stockpiled assault weapons and plotted a range of anti-government attacks, prosecutors told a judge Monday.

Prosecutors in rural Long County, near the sprawling Army post Fort Stewart, said the militia group composed of active duty and former U.S. military members spent at least $87,000 buying guns and bomb components and was serious enough to kill two people - former soldier Michael Roark and his 17-year-old girlfriend, Tiffany York - by shooting them in the woods last December in order to keep its plans secret.

"This domestic terrorist organization did not simply plan and talk," prosecutor Isabel Pauley told a Superior Court judge. "Prior to the murders in this case, the group took action. Evidence shows the group possessed the knowledge, means and motive to carry out their plans."

One of the Fort Stewart soldiers charged in the case, Army Pfc. Michael Burnett, also gave testimony that backed up many of the assertions made by prosecutors. The 26-year-old soldier pleaded guilty Monday to manslaughter, illegal gang activity and other charges. He made a deal to cooperate with prosecutors in their case against the three other soldiers.

171 makeitstop  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:10:13am

re: #168 Kragar

Reports saying Christie was offered the VP slot, but turned Mitt down, Ryan was the back up

Christie might be a knucklehead for the ages, but he's not stupid.

I wonder how Ryan feels about being the backup?

172 Mocking Jay  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:10:33am

re: #169 Killgore Trout

Moonbats or winguts?
U.S. Soldiers Plotted to Kill President Obama

How about just traitors and leave it at that.

173 Kragar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:10:40am

re: #169 Killgore Trout

The Army has had a real problem with Neo-Nazis and white supremacists in its ranks lately.

174 erik_t  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:10:47am

re: #168 Kragar

Romney’s top aides had demanded Christie step down as the state’s chief executive because if he didn’t, strict pay-to-play laws would have restricted the nation’s largest banks from donating to the campaign

Fetch my smelling salts.

175 simoom  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:10:49am

The stupid, it burns:

Politico: Karl Rove dings Joe Biden, President Obama on charity

Karl Rove dinged President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden for not contributing enough to charity, comparing their giving to Hillary Clinton’s infamous $2 underwear donation to charity.

“I do pay a higher effective tax rate than President Obama. And I do make more charitable contributions as a percentage of my income than either he or the vice president,” Rove said Monday at the first POLITICO Playbook breakfast at the Republican National Convention.

We only have 1 year where there are income tax returns available for both sides (since Romney's released just the one), and that's 2010.

First, the Romneys:

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

Mitt Romney and his wife, Ann, made $27 million in 2010. ... The couple’s effective federal tax rate for the year worked out to 13.9 percent, a rate typical of households earning about $80,000 a year.

[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

He and his wife, Ann, donated about 16.4 percent of their adjusted gross income from 2010 to 2011, according to tax records released Tuesday.

The Romney's cash donations included $1.5 million in 2010 and $2.6 million in 2011 to the Mormon church, according to the tax documents.

Next, the Ryans:

[Link: www.boston.com...]

Paul Ryan and his wife paid an effective tax rate of 20 percent last year and 15.9 percent the year before, according to tax returns the presumptive Republican vice presidential nominee released late on Friday afternoon.

Ryan’s tax returns, released through Mitt Romney’s campaign, show that he paid $64,764 in taxes on $323,416 of adjusted gross income in 2011. He and his wife paid $34,233 in taxes on $215,417 of adjusted gross income in 2010.

...

The Ryans donated $12,991 to charity in 2011, and $2,600 to charity in 2010. Those contributions went to such groups as the Boy Scouts of America, Junior Achievement, and Women and Children’s Horizons, according to the campaign.

So that makes ~1.2% of adjusted gross income to charity for Ryan, in 2010.

~continued below~

176 Interesting Times  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:10:49am

re: #137 Lidane

I'm taking this with a few grains of salt, but anything's possible:

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177 Lidane  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:11:02am

re: #168 Kragar

Reports saying Christie was offered the VP slot, but turned Mitt down, Ryan was the back up

I think that might be one of the few times that someone's refused to leave New Jersey.

///

178 simoom  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:11:06am

re: #175 simoom

The Obamas:

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

The president and his wife, Michelle Obama, on Monday reported an adjusted gross income of $1,728,096 for 2010, down from $5.5 million in 2009. Most of their income came from sales of his books “Dreams From My Father” and “The Audacity of Hope.” The Obamas paid $453,770 in federal taxes, for an effective tax rate of just over 26 percent; the top individual tax rate is 35 percent.

The Obamas donated $245,075 — 14.2 percent of their income before tax deductions and exemptions — to 36 charities. According to the White House, more than half went to the couple’s favorite charity, the Fisher House Foundation, which benefits families of fallen and disabled soldiers; it gets all proceeds from Mr. Obama’s children’s book, “Of Thee I Sing: A Letter to My Daughters,” which was published late last year.

Also, in 2010, President Obama gave an additional 1.4 million to charity:

[Link: voices.washingtonpost.com...]

Three months after receiving the Nobel Peace Prize, President Obama announced Thursday the charities that will benefit from his $1.4 million cash award.

Add that in and for 2010 the Obamas neared 100% donated when compared to income.

Finally, the Bidens:

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

Compared with the president, Mr. Biden is a pauper. He and his wife had an adjusted gross income of $379,178, most of it his salary. The Bidens paid $86,626 in federal taxes, for an effective tax rate of about 23 percent. They also paid $14,479 in income taxes to Delaware and $3,515 to Virginia, and contributed $5,350 to charity, counting money and in-kind donations.

So the Biden's gave a little over 1.4% to charity, meager by comparison to the tops of the tickets, but still slightly more than the Ryans.

Again, in summary, for 2010:
(Effective Tax Rate%, Charitable Givings %)
Obama : 26% _, 95.2%
Romney: 13.9%, 16.4%
Biden : 23% _, 1.4%
Ryan. : 15.9%, 1.2%

179 Lidane  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:11:23am

re: #169 Killgore Trout

Moonbats or winguts?
U.S. Soldiers Plotted to Kill President Obama

Who cares? They're traitors either way.

180 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:11:32am

re: #166 Kragar

DAMMIT PAT!

(Scotty)
Captain, the prayer wheels are going at 110%! If I push it any further the whole thing might go!
(/Scotty)

181 b_sharp  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:11:57am

re: #165 Kragar

Tea Party at the RNC:

This what happens when your fantasies are on TV instead of in books. It becomes real and part of your world view.

These people need to read more and watch less 'reality' TV.

182 erik_t  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:12:32am

A candidate's donations to charity are substantially less important to me than, you know, their policy positions.

Or in the case of Mitt, his lack of positions. Or multitude of positions.

183 makeitstop  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:13:42am

re: #181 b_sharp

These people need to read more and watch less 'reality' TV Fox News.

FTFY

184 Interesting Times  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:13:56am

re: #182 erik_t

A candidate's donations to charity are substantially less important to me than, you know, their policy positions.

Or in the case of Mitt, his lack of positions. Or multitude of positions.

Mitt has more positions than the Kama Sutra, and nearly all of them involve screwing the poor and the middle class.

185 b_sharp  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:14:00am

re: #169 Killgore Trout

Moonbats or winguts?
U.S. Soldiers Plotted to Kill President Obama

Both.

186 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:14:12am

re: #170 NJDhockeyfan

Prosecutor: Ga. murder case uncovers terror plot

Any clue who they are yet? I saw them referred to as "anarchists" earlier but the MSM gets confused when it comes to sovereign citizen movements.

187 Kragar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:14:12am

re: #181 b_sharp

What do mean read more? They have the collected works of Ann Coulter and Glenn Beck on the bookshelves. What more do they need?

188 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:14:58am

re: #185 b_sharp

Both.

That would be my first guess too. Probably Paulians.

189 Kragar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:15:28am

re: #186 Killgore Trout

Any clue who they are yet? I saw them referred to as "anarchists" earlier but the MSM gets confused when it comes to sovereign citizen movements.

Probably meant general anarchists as opposed to Anarchist anarchists.

190 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:15:45am

re: #184 Interesting Times

Mitt has more positions than the Kama Sutra, and nearly all of them involve screwing the poor and the middle class.

Software error. OmniBot 5500 was installed by mistake the other day. I'm sure the proper Romneybot program will be back in place in a few days.

191 celticdragon  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:15:56am

re: #130 Kragar

To everyone who says the solution to gun violence is we need more armed people going around...

All Nine Bystanders Injured During Friday’s Empire State Building Shooting Were Shot By Police

Some of the dedicated public servants (I use the term advisedly) at Policeone have tended to either underplay the injuries or mock the civilians who were shot and wonder aloud if they had all wandered into a firefight with their camera phones out.

No doubt, these same folks will tirelessly complain later that the public doesn't give them enough respect.

I 100 agree with SASQUATCH. I can only hope that if he is right and some idiots were trying to tape it, they later write a widely read article and all those other idiots read it. The comfort level people have in interfering with police is climbing every day and this would be a great example of why it should stop. Even better, I hope its one of the "COPBLOCK" people. That'd be freakin amazing.

How many of these yahoos that got hit were in the process of pulling out their cell-phone cameras to video the cops? Seriously, I bet $$ some of these lemmings heard the shots, saw cops running with guns, and rather than duck for cover like an intelligent person, they probably grabbed for their cell-phone cameras. I mean, why take cover? The cops on TV don't have bullets that ricochet. I bet as we see video of this surface, you'll see a bunch of dweebs standing around with their cell-phone cameras out as bullets are flying. They'll be the first ones to scream "foul" on the cops.

"Defense lawyer Ron Kuby noted that bystanders shot in crime-ridden neighborhoods do not usually attract much attention."

Well, gee whiz, Ron. I wonder if that's because the "bystanders" are normally criminals themselves who refuse to cooperate with the police in the resulting investigation. Asshole.

Robert Asika, 23, told the Times he was one of those people grazed by the bullets: “One of the cops shot me in my arm,” he said outside Bellevue Hospital Center, noting the gunman was moving toward him, and suggesting the officers “shot me probably trying to shoot him.” He said he wasn't mad at police: “I get they were doing their job, but they have to be a little more careful when they are aiming the gun at the suspect and not hit the innocent victims,” he said.

But Asika took on a harsher tone in an interview with the Guardian UK, accusing those cops of "shooting randomly", and hitting at least two other people: "If you're gonna aim try and aim perfectly. If you wanna aim at the target, you got to know what you're doing because it's the street," Asika said. "I could have been dead right now. I could have been dead."

The more that idiot talks, the less I feel for him getting shot.

I guess we are supposed to thank officers for shooting bystanders at this point. Otherwise, they get their feelings hurt.

192 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:16:39am

re: #186 Killgore Trout

Any clue who they are yet? I saw them referred to as "anarchists" earlier but the MSM gets confused when it comes to sovereign citizen movements.

According to the story...

Prosecutors said the group called itself F.E.A.R., short for Forever Enduring Always Ready. Pauley said authorities don't know how many members the militia had.

193 erik_t  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:17:32am

re: #192 NJDhockeyfan

According to the story...

Naming themselves after their one and only mindset.

Can't make this shit up.

194 Lidane  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:17:42am
195 Lidane  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:19:47am

re: #188 Killgore Trout

That would be my first guess too. Probably Paulians.

Doesn't matter. A soldier plotting to kill the CinC is a traitor no matter who he likes politically.

196 b_sharp  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:20:04am

re: #178 simoom

The Obamas:

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

Also, in 2010, President Obama gave an additional 1.4 million to charity:

[Link: voices.washingtonpost.com...]

Add that in and for 2010 the Obamas neared 100% donated when compared to income.

Finally, the Bidens:

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

So the Biden's gave a little over 1.4% to charity, meager by comparison to the tops of the tickets, but still slightly more than the Ryans.

Again, in summary, for 2010:
(Effective Tax Rate%, Charitable Givings %)
Obama : 26% _, 95.2%
Romney: 13.9%, 16.4%
Biden : 23% _, 1.4%
Ryan. : 15.9%, 1.2%

You need to add the Nobel award to Obama's income.

197 blueraven  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:20:11am

re: #186 Killgore Trout

Any clue who they are yet? I saw them referred to as "anarchists" earlier but the MSM gets confused when it comes to sovereign citizen movements.

Well I dont know who they are, but I grew up a few scant miles from the Ft. Stewart area and I can say that the mentality there favors sovereign citizen types.

198 erik_t  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:21:00am

re: #191 celticdragon

“I get they were doing their job, but they have to be a little more careful when they are aiming the gun at the suspect and not hit the innocent victims,”

What an outrageously outrageous nonsensical emotional freakout from a man who was just shot!

/

199 lawhawk  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:21:15am

Developing:

4 soldiers arrested on multiple charges in Georgia. Prosecutors also believe that the group was ultimately intending on assassinating the President.

Four Army soldiers based in southeast Georgia killed a former comrade and his girlfriend to protect an anarchist militia group they formed that stockpiled assault weapons and plotted a range of anti-government attacks, prosecutors told a judge Monday.

Prosecutors in rural Long County, near the sprawling Army post Fort Stewart, said the militia group composed of active duty and former U.S. military members spent at least $87,000 buying guns and bomb components and was serious enough to kill two people - former soldier Michael Roark and his 17-year-old girlfriend, Tiffany York - by shooting them in the woods last December in order to keep its plans secret.

"This domestic terrorist organization did not simply plan and talk," prosecutor Isabel Pauley told a Superior Court judge. "Prior to the murders in this case, the group took action. Evidence shows the group possessed the knowledge, means and motive to carry out their plans."

(snip)

The prosecutor said the militia group had big plans. It plotted to take over Fort Stewart by seizing its ammunition control point and talked of bombing the Forsyth Park fountain in nearby Savannah, she said. In Washington state, she added, the group plotted to bomb a dam and poison the state's apple crop. Ultimately, prosecutors said, the militia's goal was to overthrow the government and assassinate the president.

The Army brought charges against the four accused soldiers in connection with the slayings of Roark and York in March, but has yet to act on them. Fort Stewart spokesman Kevin Larson said he could not comment immediately on the militia accusations that emerged in civilian court Monday.

The group called itself FEAR: short for Forever Enduring Always Ready. The two murders were to eliminate a "loose end". The group recruited disillusioned soldiers or those who were in trouble. No word on the numbers in total recruited.

200 b_sharp  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:22:06am

re: #188 Killgore Trout

That would be my first guess too. Probably Paulians.

The extreme from both sides meet at the middle of the political spectrum's backside.

201 erik_t  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:23:41am

re: #200 b_sharp

The extreme from both sides meet at the middle of the political spectrum's backside.

The asscrack of the body politic.

202 Eventual Carrion  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:24:36am

re: #199 lawhawk

Developing:

4 soldiers arrested on multiple charges in Georgia. Prosecutors also believe that the group was ultimately intending on assassinating the President.

The group called itself FEAR: short for Forever Enduring Always Ready. The two murders were to eliminate a "loose end". The group recruited disillusioned soldiers or those who were in trouble. No word on the numbers in total recruited.

Weren't we warned about this eventuality a few years back? Some study done letting us know what to watch out for. Didn't some people poo poo the report as being totally unrealistic, farfetched and the like? Wonder if we will get an apology or at least a "my bad" from them? No? Didn't think so.

203 darthstar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:25:53am

Stupid fucking Republicans...they think they have a voice in their own party?

Ginsberg had spent six hours successfully putting through his amendments, but when he proposed raising the threshold required for minority reports from 25% of a committee to 40%, the members rebelled.

“He is systematically trying to prevent minorities from having even any remote opportunity of being heard,” longtime GOP operative Morton Blackwell objected. “This is wrong, it’s gonna hurt us, it’s gonna hurt our presidential candidate.”

Yes, it is going to hurt. Just lie back and think of Reagan.

204 celticdragon  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:25:53am

re: #197 blueraven

Well I dont know who they are, but I grew up a few scant miles from the FT Stewart area and I can say that the mentality there favors sovereign citizen types.

I dated a young woman near Ft Stewart for awhile, but left after I found out her dad was in the KKK and was making threats towards some other soldiers I lived with. Bad stuff out on the west side of the base. Real white supremacists. Ludowici (a few miles south) is even worse. Openly crooked law enforcement and it's a klan stronghold. (They actually rigged traffic lights to deliberately make people run red lights. It was literally impossible to get through the county without a ticket if you had an out of state tag. The state confiscated their radar guns and the federal government deliberately ran I-95 several miles east towards the coast and out of their jurisdiction so that they could not prey on freeway motorists))

205 darthstar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:27:08am

What war on women?

206 Interesting Times  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:27:15am

Now this is an outcome I genuinely didn't expect, at least as far as Romney goes:

The debate questions are here. Nothing on evolution, unfortunately (though I'm sure Romney will weasel-word and epic-fail his way through the rest)

207 wrenchwench  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:28:45am

re: #203 darthstar

Stupid fucking Republicans...they think they have a voice in their own party?

Yes, it is going to hurt. Just lie back and think of Reagan.

You know how they feel about minorities!

208 Interesting Times  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:29:39am

re: #205 darthstar

209 Kragar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:31:24am

re: #205 darthstar

Every woman gets a complimentary pat on the head with her make over.

210 Kragar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:31:51am

re: #207 wrenchwench

They love minorities. Everyone should own one.

211 Lidane  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:31:55am

Cue all the the wingnuts screeching about this:

Obama Directs Flags To Half-Staff To Honor Neil Armstrong

212 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:31:57am

re: #209 Kragar

Every woman gets a complimentary pat on the head with her make over.

Now, go make me a sammich!

213 Kragar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:32:34am

re: #212 Learned Mother of Zion

OK. You're a sammich.

214 celticdragon  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:32:35am

re: #203 darthstar

Stupid fucking Republicans...they think they have a voice in their own party?

Yes, it is going to hurt. Just lie back and think of Reagan.

I thought I recognized that slimy weasel Ginsburg...

I last heard of him vis-a-vis the "Brooks Brothers Riot" during the Florida recount. I see he is still making people hate his guts.

215 celticdragon  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:33:29am

re: #209 Kragar

Every woman gets a complimentary pat on the head with her make over.

And a trans vaginal probe...

216 Mich-again  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:34:19am

re: #208 Interesting Times

Legitimately dumb. RT @kate_sheppard: GOP Group Courts Women At Convention With "Hair And Makeup Touch Ups"

I suppose they are treating the men with a shoeshine.

217 Gus  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:34:36am

re: #211 Lidane

Cue all the the wingnuts screeching about this:

Obama Directs Flags To Half-Staff To Honor Neil Armstrong

It's pointing to MECCA!!!!!!11ty

218 Lidane  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:34:45am

LOL forever:

219 blueraven  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:34:52am

re: #204 celticdragon

I dated a young woman near Ft Stewart for awhile, but left after I found out her dad was in the KKK and was making threats towards some other soldiers I liver with. Bad stuff out on the west side of the base. Real white supremacists. Ludowici (a few miles south) is even worse. Openly crooked law enforcement and it's a klan stronghold. (They actually rigged traffic lights to deliberately make people run red lights. It was literally impossible to get through the county without a ticket if you had an out of state tag. The state confiscated their radar guns and the federal government deliberately ran I-95 several miles east towards the coast and out of their jurisdiction so that they could not prey on freeway motorists))

Oh for sure about Ludowici

We used to always joke about the speed traps when driving through there.

Lester Maddox called them out pretty good
Image: ludowici_billboard.jpg

220 Mich-again  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:35:30am

re: #218 Lidane

LOL forever:

SEND MORE POPCORN!

221 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:35:40am
In a videotaped interview with military investigators, Pauley said, Aguigui called himself "the nicest cold-blooded murderer you will ever meet." He used the Army to recruit militia members, who wore distinctive tattoos that resemble an anarchy symbol, she said. Prosecutors say they have no idea how many members belong to the group.

"All members of the group were on active-duty or were former members of the military," Pauley said. "He targeted soldiers who were in trouble or disillusioned."

Read more: [Link: www.sfgate.com...]

222 wrenchwench  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:36:17am

re: #216 Mich-again

I suppose they are treating the men with a shoeshine.

They had to find something for Trump's actor to do without Trump.

223 b_sharp  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:37:04am

re: #211 Lidane

Cue all the the wingnuts screeching about this:

Obama Directs Flags To Half-Staff To Honor Neil Armstrong

They need to specify the flags are to be made rigid like the ones on the moon.

224 Gus  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:37:21am

re: #221 Killgore Trout

Read more: [Link: www.sfgate.com...]

Uh oh. Tattoos resembling an anarchy symbol. Clearly they must be registered Democrats. Time to call Jim Hoft!

225 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:37:42am

I don't know what is up with the hair and makeup touchup.

Pedicures would go a long way, and before you yell at me, the women in my family love them. Except for me, because I don't like being touched by strangers, but that's another story.

Free cheesecake would also go a long way, and, I would suggest, a Conservative woman's panel (with Romney and Ryan in attendance, listening) on issues that conservative women find important.

226 Gus  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:37:46am

re: #223 b_sharp

They need to specify the flags are to be made rigid like the ones on the moon.

227 erik_t  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:38:01am

re: #224 Gus

Uh oh. Tattoos resembling an anarchy symbol. Clearly they must be registered Democrats. Time to call Jim Hoft!

On it.

228 Gus  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:38:34am

re: #227 erik_t

On it.

Ha!

229 wrenchwench  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:41:19am

re: #225 Mostly sane, most of the time.

I don't know what is up with the hair and makeup touchup.

Pedicures would go a long way, and before you yell at me, the women in my family love them. Except for me, because I don't like being touched by strangers, but that's another story.

Free cheesecake would also go a long way, and, I would suggest, a Conservative woman's panel (with Romney and Ryan in attendance, listening) on issues that conservative women find important.

The cheesecake would provide an opportunity for a dig at Michelle "Healthy Eating" Obama. (Although it is fairly nutritious if you have room for that many calories in your diet.)

230 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:42:45am

re: #221 Killgore Trout

Read more: [Link: www.sfgate.com...]

One of them had help from his wife.

Also charged in the killings is Salmon’s wife, Heather Salmon. Her attorney, Charles Nester, did not immediately return a call seeking comment.

Another one is suspected of killing his wife and using the insurance to buy weapons.

Pauley said Aguigui funded the militia using $500,000 in insurance and benefit payments from the death of his pregnant wife a year ago. Aguigui was not charged in his wife’s death, but Pauley told the judge her death was “highly suspicious.”

She said Aguigui used the money to buy $87,000 worth of semiautomatic assault rifles, other guns and bomb components that were recovered from the accused soldiers’ homes and from a storage locker. He also used the insurance payments to buy land for his militia group in Washington state, Pauley said.

Ugh.

231 simoom  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:42:45am

re: #196 b_sharp

You need to add the Nobel award to Obama's income.

AFAIK, Obama's winnings never passed through him. My understanding is the Nobel Foundation was directed as to which charities to disperse it to.

232 Gus  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:42:47am
233 darthstar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:43:22am

re: #215 celticdragon

And a trans vaginal probe...

Honestly, I could see the GOP having a trans-vag booth where big-hatted button wearing women could come out and say, "It was like getting a massage...what's the big deal?" on Fox News.

234 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:43:36am

re: #232 Gus

[Embedded content]

President Paul who?
/

235 darthstar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:44:57am

re: #221 Killgore Trout

Read more: [Link: www.sfgate.com...]

Two less votes for Romney.

236 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:46:25am

re: #233 darthstar

Honestly, I could see the GOP having a trans-vag booth where big-hatted button wearing women could come out and say, "It was like getting a massage...what's the big deal?" on Fox News.

Code Pink will be supplying the vaginas to the RNC.

237 Eventual Carrion  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:46:29am

MM puking about the report on 4/14/09:

And echoing the anti-military bigotry last seen in that disgusting Penn State University training video, there’s this on p. 7:

(U) Disgruntled Military Veterans

(U//FOUO) DHS/I&A assesses that rightwing extremists will attempt to recruit and radicalize returning veterans in order to exploit their skills and knowledge derived from military training and combat. These skills and knowledge have the potential to boost the capabilities of extremists—including lone wolves or small terrorist cells—to carry out violence. The willingness of a small percentage of military personnel to join extremist groups during the 1990s because they were disgruntled, disillusioned, or suffering from the psychological effects of war is being replicated today.

Malkins poo poo

Yep, no way in hell they were going to recruit ex and disgruntled military personnel.

238 Mocking Jay  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:46:43am

Never change, Paulians. Never change.

239 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:46:47am

re: #229 wrenchwench

The cheesecake would provide an opportunity for a dig at Michelle "Healthy Eating" Obama. (Although it is fairly nutritious if you have room for that many calories in your diet.)

They were going to do that, but Mitt misread something and had Bain outsource the Cheesecake Factory to China.
// ;)

240 Obdicut  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:47:21am

re: #238 Mocking Jay

"We can do better" really does seem to be referring to Romney.

241 Gus  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:47:32am

Hmmmm...

[Link: www.myspace.com...]

242 Mocking Jay  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:47:49am

re: #240 Obdicut

"We can do better" really does seem to be referring to Romney.

Yeah, someone didn't think that one all the way through.

243 Gus  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:49:29am

Name's more common then I expected.

Image: 610x.jpg

Republican National Convention page Isaac Aguigui watches from the edge of the floor at the start of the first session of the 2008 Republican National Convention in St. Paul, Minnesota September 1, 2008.

244 erik_t  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:49:34am

HAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

TAMPA — All credentialed media checking into the Republican National Convention are being given a swag bag featuring brochures and items from various sponsors such as sunglasses and a pocket fan. But the bag also contains a copy of the original hardcover version of Mitt Romney’s book No Apology, in which he suggested his approach to health care in Massachusetts could be accomplished in the rest of the country.

The allusion was later altered for the paperback version of the book, a change that became a contentious issue during the Republican primary.

Romney's team really puts the 'camp' in 'campaign'.

245 celticdragon  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:49:53am

re: #239 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

They were going to do that, but Mitt misread something and had Bain outsource the Cheesecake Factory to China.
// ;)

"I'm not sure about these cookies cheesecakes. They don't look like you made them," Romney said to the woman sitting next to him. "No, no. They came from the local 7-eleven, bakery, or whatever."

246 Kragar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:49:58am

re: #238 Mocking Jay

UNITY!

Youtube Video
247 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:50:52am

2012 Republican Convention: Protesters Dressed As Vaginas Greet Delegates

TAMPA -- Giant, walking vaginas have descended upon the Republican National convention.

Several demonstrators from Code Pink, a feminist group, wore frilly pink costumes while others adorned with cardboard cutouts resembling the sexual organ were milling about on Sunday looking for Republicans.

A Florida website called Shark-Tank.net captured video of some of them during their preparation (video below). The protesters carried signs saying such things as: “Read my lips. Leave my vagina alone,” and argued that pro-life Republicans are waging a war against women.

But with the official proceedings, along with two Lynyrd Skynyrd concerts and the premier of an anti-Occupy Wall Street Movie canceled on Sunday and Monday due to weather, it wasn’t until Sunday night at The Welcome Event that the protesters found a large group of Republicans to confront.

As several thousand conventioneers arrived in buses at Tropicana Field, an indoor stadium where baseball’s Tampa Bay Rays play, they were met by about 400 protesters – some of whom were in their vagina costumes. By that time, though, convention-goers hardly took notice of the crowd, and well-armed police and military personnel kept the demonstrators away from the party inside the stadium.

248 Gus  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:51:00am

re: #244 erik_t

HAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Romney's team really puts the 'camp' in 'campaign'.

Why that's bloody spectacular.

249 Mich-again  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:51:06am
Master of ceremonies Doug Wead, a former adviser to George W. Bush, described Paul as “a clean boat in a sea of garbage.”

Is that in reference to Mitt giving his Popeye impersonation earlier?

250 erik_t  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:51:47am

I couldn't give less of a shit about the eighteen or twenty nutters that make up Code Pink.

251 wrenchwench  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:51:50am

re: #243 Gus

Name's more common then I expected.

Image: 610x.jpg

Watching for his namesake hurricane?

252 darthstar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:52:28am

re: #236 NJDhockeyfan

Code Pink will be supplying the vaginas to the RNC.

I love Code Pink...they're not afraid of their vaginas. Sure, they can make congressional hearings a little annoying with all their calls for Republicans testifying to actually tell the fucking truth instead of saying, "I can't recall.", but they are fun to party with should you ever get the chance...or at least you should support your girls when they're of age to join Code Pink and fight for their rights as women.

253 Mich-again  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:53:10am

Every time a GOP delegate hears the word Isaac, all they can think of is the one man show bartender on The Love Boat. That dude worked every bar on the ship.

254 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:53:22am

re: #250 erik_t

I couldn't give less of a shit about the eighteen or twenty nutters that make up Code Pink.

There are that many?

255 erik_t  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:53:56am

re: #254 Learned Mother of Zion

There are that many?

Not intended to be a factual statement.

256 Gus  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:54:15am

Well. The urinating Marines are in the news again. Some punishments handed down.

The Marine Corps declined to reveal the specific punishments or the names of the Marines, who were deployed with the 3rd Battalion, 2nd Marine Regiment from Camp Lejeune, N.C. Punishments in an administrative proceeding could include reduction in rank, restriction to base, extra duties, forfeiture of pay, a reprimand or a combination of these measures, the Corps said in a statement.

257 Gus  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:55:02am
258 wrenchwench  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:55:10am

re: #247 NJDhockeyfan

2012 Republican Convention: Protesters Dressed As Vaginas Greet Delegates

Surely Tampon, Florida is familiar with vaginas.

259 wrenchwench  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:56:47am

re: #256 Gus

Well. The urinating Marines are in the news again. Some punishments handed down.

Un-Loesch the hounds!

260 Gus  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:57:12am

re: #252 darthstar

I love Code Pink...they're not afraid of their vaginas. Sure, they can make congressional hearings a little annoying with all their calls for Republicans testifying to actually tell the fucking truth instead of saying, "I can't recall.", but they are fun to party with should you ever get the chance...or at least you should support your girls when they're of age to join Code Pink and fight for their rights as women.

Meh. Code Pink is rather ignorant on issues of foreign policy. I mean really ignorant.

261 Big Joe  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:57:15am

re: #247 NJDhockeyfan

2012 Republican Convention: Protesters Dressed As Vaginas Greet Delegates

That must be the "egg bombs" they were warning about. //

262 Gus  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:57:56am

re: #259 wrenchwench

Un-Loesch the hounds!

Seems like reasonable punishment.

263 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:58:02am

re: #258 wrenchwench

Surely Tampon, Florida is familiar with vaginas.

I can just imagine walking down the street, turning the corner, and suddenly being confronted by a group of gigantic walking vaginas. Ha ha ha

264 erik_t  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:58:23am

re: #260 Gus

Meh. Code Pink is rather ignorant on issues of foreign policy. I mean really ignorant.

A bit heaping spoonful of distasteful on top of the plate of ignorant.

Clueless a la mode.

265 simoom  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:58:56am

The latest LV Florida & NC poll:

[Link: thehill.com...]

The CNN/Time/ORC poll found that 50 percent of likely voters in Florida would vote for Obama and Biden while 46 percent would vote for Romney and Ryan. The Monday poll's findings come on the first day of the RNC in Tampa, Fla. Among registered voters the gap is wider in Obama's favor. The poll also found that 51 percent of registered voters would vote to reelect the president while 42 percent would vote for Romney and Ryan.

Interestingly, among voters 50 years old and older, a crucial voting bloc in Florida, Obama and Biden and Ryan and Romney are essentially tied, with the Republican presidential team leading 49 percent to 47 percent. But among Floridians under 50, Obama and Biden lead 54 percent to 41 percent.

In North Carolina, the location of the 2012 Democratic National Convention, the race is tighter. The poll found 47 percent for Obama and Biden among likely voters and 48 percent for Romney and Ryan. But among registered voters, Obama and Biden just barely lead Romney and Ryan, 48 percent to 46 percent.

Romney needs Florida in any realistic path to victory, which perhaps argues in favor of holding the convention there.

266 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:59:27am

I don't want to hang out with Code Pink.

I'd rather hang out with the Red Hatters.

Those ladies know how to party.

267 Gus  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:00:10pm

re: #264 erik_t

A bit heaping spoonful of distasteful on top of the plate of ignorant.

Clueless a la mode.

Yep. Including serious meddling in foreign policy.

268 erik_t  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:00:50pm

re: #266 Mostly sane, most of the time.

I'd rather hang out with the Red Hatters.

Those ladies know how to party.

I've never found Linux developers to be terribly personable...

269 Kragar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:00:53pm

Tea Party blames Public schools for electing Obama

Conservative talk show host Neal Boortz, speaking at yesterday’s Unity Rally 2012 in Tampa ahead of the Republican National Convention, denounced public schools as “government schools” that are “forced upon us.” Boortz blamed “100 years of government education” for bringing America “to the point that a man like Barack Obama could be sworn in as president of the United States.”

Boortz directed the crowd to change the way they speak about public schools – calling them “government schools” instead. He also called on the audience to “preach school choice,” by which meant efforts to defund public schools and provide taxpayer dollars for religious and private schools and homeschooling.

270 Gus  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:01:15pm

re: #267 Gus

Yep. Including serious meddling in foreign policy.

And TEH JUICE, TEH JUICE!

271 wrenchwench  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:01:31pm

re: #263 NJDhockeyfan

I can just imagine walking down the street, turning the corner, and suddenly being confronted by a group of gigantic walking vaginas. Ha ha ha

Whereas this happens all the time:

I can just imagine walking down the street, turning the corner, and suddenly being confronted by a group of gigantic walking vaginas dicks. Ha ha ha

272 Interesting Times  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:01:33pm

/Has Pamela Geller been informed about this?

273 Lidane  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:02:50pm

Laser-like focus on jobs:

274 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:03:31pm

re: #264 erik_t

A bit heaping spoonful of distasteful on top of the plate of ignorant.

Clueless a la mode.

Here's a group pic of the fantastic walking vaginas.

Image: Code-Pink-550x410.jpg

275 lawhawk  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:03:36pm

Photo of two of the four soldiers held in connection with the murder/terror plot:

[Link: hosted.ap.org...]

276 Kragar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:04:24pm

GOP Details Huge Medicare Change In Leaked Platform

Republicans want to turn it into a partially privatized system that pays seniors a fixed amount to buy their own health insurance (i.e. “defined contribution”).

“Under the defined contribution approach envisaged by the Rivlin-Ryan plan [a proposal that’s remarkably similar to Romney’s], most of the risk of future health-care cost increases would be shifted onto the shoulders of Medicare beneficiaries,” Uwe Reinhardt, a health policy expert at Princeton University, said last year. “This feature makes the proposal radical.”

The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office has found that the plan will raise seniors’ out-of-pocket medical expenses by thousands of dollars, a fact Democrats hasten to point out. The draft Republican platform claims that the competition among private insurance plans will lead to major cost savings, though little evidence exists to support this argument.

277 Targetpractice  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:04:41pm

re: #273 Lidane

Laser-like focus on jobs:

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First they came for the Playboy magazines, and I said nothing...

//

278 erik_t  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:04:45pm

re: #272 Interesting Times

This seems like an intrinsically silly metric. Why would the quantity of political books purchased have a direct and linear correspondence with voting?

279 Lidane  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:04:49pm

re: #275 lawhawk

Photo of two of the four soldiers held in connection with the murder/terror plot:

[Link: hosted.ap.org...]

How soon before the wingnuts start crying about false flag operations and lone wolves?

280 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:05:17pm

re: #275 lawhawk

Photo of two of the four soldiers held in connection with the murder/terror plot:

[Link: hosted.ap.org...]

New weird trick to lose weight without crazy diet or exercise!
One weird trick to buy cheap cruise tickets!
Energy companies hate him! 75 year old man makes power at home in his garage!

281 Gus  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:05:24pm

This is from the Code Pink site. I know I can find more stuff but this is a start.

It is a real shame that the money our leaders get from AIPAC, the American Jewish right wing lobby pressuring Congress, continues to subvert our own democratic principles, and is a key factor in continuing the injustice and violence in the Middle East.

Uh. AIPAC isn't right wing.

282 erik_t  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:05:30pm

re: #274 NJDhockeyfan

Here's a group pic of the fantastic walking vaginas.

Image: Code-Pink-550x410.jpg

I, too, prefer making love to war. But down-ballot their priorities tend to diverge pretty rapidly from mine...

283 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:05:31pm

I really like Raul Grijalva

284 Targetpractice  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:05:41pm

re: #276 Kragar

GOP Details Huge Medicare Change In Leaked Platform

Ah yes, the supposed "competition" that will lower the costs while improving the quality.

We have dismissed those claims.

//

285 Gus  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:06:35pm

re: #282 erik_t

I, too, prefer making love to war. But down-ballot their priorities tend to diverge pretty rapidly from mine...

Code Pink like Wikileaks became it's own ideology. I almost consider them countries if you know what I mean.

286 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:06:39pm

re: #281 Gus

It is a real shame that the money our leaders get from AIPAC, the American Jewish right wing lobby pressuring CONTROLLING Congress, continues to subvert our own democratic principles, and is a key factor in continuing the injustice and violence in the Middle East.

That's the meme.

287 Kragar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:06:41pm

re: #273 Lidane

They can have my pron when they can wrest it from my ...

Never mind.

288 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:06:41pm

re: #273 Lidane

Someone better tell Jenna Jameson

289 dragonfire1981  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:06:51pm

re: #272 Interesting Times

[Embedded content]

/Has Pamela Geller been informed about this?

How about that, my state leads the nation in Red books.

290 Interesting Times  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:07:24pm

re: #273 Lidane

Laser-like focus on jobs:

"Republican Party Platform to Target 'Hardcore' Porn"

Not exactly a brilliant move, especially given findings like this:

291 Kragar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:07:26pm

re: #274 NJDhockeyfan

When "Eye of Sauron" cosplay gets out of hand.

292 Eventual Carrion  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:07:47pm

re: #279 Lidane

How soon before the wingnuts start crying about false flag operations and lone wolves?

Well, a pack of lone wolves.

293 erik_t  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:08:02pm

re: #285 Gus

Code Pink like Wikileaks became it's own ideology. I almost consider them countries if you know what I mean.

I think that's a pretty excellent analogy, actually. Like so many other organizations I could name (MADD, PETA, etc), the self-radicalization spiral did them no favors.

294 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:08:54pm

re: #281 Gus

This is from the Code Pink site. I know I can find more stuff but this is a start.

Uh. AIPAC isn't right wing.

They are totally anti_Israel. Remember this?

Code Pink: "Jews for Helen Thomas"

Code Pink is outside the White House today to speak out against, what they see as Israeli aggression in the Middle East.

CNN's Ed Henry tweeted this picture of Code Pink co-founder Medea Benjamin's timely sign: Image: 112646121-af82d4cfd4acc37d142443d367f37821.4c0e7710-scaled.jpg

295 dragonfire1981  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:09:39pm

Greetings from the Gulf Coast.

I am currently busy with preparations as we await the arrival of Isaac, it appears we will be out of the storms direct path but still impacted nonetheless.

We live about 15 miles north of the Gulf so storm surge isn't a concern. Flooding may be an issue but we aren't that close to any lakes or rivers either so we should be ok. This house survived Katrina with nothing more than some roof damage.

Our major concern is wind and tornadoes. I've been busy stuffing away just about anything in the yard/garage area that could become a dangerous projectile.

I plan to take some photos/videos during the storm. Hopefully I'll have some interesting stuff to show you when it's over.

Wish me luck/pray for me folks.

296 Mocking Jay  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:10:11pm
297 Gus  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:10:43pm

re: #294 NJDhockeyfan

They are totally anti_Israel. Remember this?

Code Pink: "Jews for Helen Thomas"

See #270.

298 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:10:51pm

When you listen to classical music all the time, the "song you can't get out of your head" can be pretty classy.

Current earworm: "Steuermann Laß Die Wach"

Youtube Video
299 Mocking Jay  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:11:37pm

re: #294 NJDhockeyfan

They are totally anti_Israel. Remember this?

Code Pink: "Jews for Helen Thomas"

I think their organization is just a little more numerous than the New Black Panther Party that greater wingnuttia wants me to be afraid of.

300 makeitstop  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:11:57pm

re: #258 wrenchwench

Surely Tampon, Florida is familiar with vaginas.

True story - Cheech & Chong once got arrested on obscenity charges in Tampa for referring to the city as 'Tampax.'

Youtube Video
302 lawhawk  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:13:53pm

e-hurricane: where hurricanes meet landfall.

Isaac, meet NOLA. NOLA, await Isaac.

A moderate storm surge is predicted - they're indicating a 50% probability of a 5 ft surge in the Delta region. Lower elsewhere. That's more than enough to cause all kinds of trouble though.

303 Mocking Jay  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:14:08pm

re: #301 Kragar

And sometimes, Humphries told the audience, you just "have to treat these liberals like dogs; grab them by their collar [and yell] 'bad Democrat, no!'"

Some of us pay women good money for that.

304 Eventual Carrion  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:15:02pm

re: #295 dragonfire1981

Greetings from the Gulf Coast.

[snip]

I plan to take some photos/videos during the storm. Hopefully I'll have some interesting stuff to show you when it's over.

Wish me luck/pray for me folks.

Be safe. Trying to get hold of my cousin in Gulfport Mississippi to see if she has bugged out. Hope everyone is safe all across the gulf (yes even the repub conventioneers).

305 Kragar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:15:37pm

re: #300 makeitstop

There was a Ray Stevens song, "You're never going to Tampa with me."

Youtube Video
306 Gus  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:17:09pm

The vagina thing though is funny. Too bad it was CP doing it first.

307 Interesting Times  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:17:32pm

Oh for fuck's sake...I saw the name of a high school trending on Twitter, and my first thought was, "I hope there hasn't been another shooting". Sure enough:

308 Targetpractice  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:17:37pm

re: #296 Mocking Jay

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Always kinda figured it was something like that. The same issue is the reason why most auto racing these days is so heavily regulated, because drivers and teams used to gamble that their mods or wacky new designs would give them an edge while still being safe. Too many times, they rolled snake eyes and people paid with their lives.

309 wrenchwench  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:18:08pm

re: #300 makeitstop

True story - Cheech & Chong once got arrested on obscenity charges in Tampa for referring to the city as 'Tampax.'

[Embedded content]

That's great!

310 AK-47%  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:19:06pm

re: #98 Kragar

Steve King: Victims Of Discrimination Must Stop Making Excuses And ‘Take Individual Responsibility’

Obama should be held up by conservatives as an example of how a even minority member can rise to the highest office in the land through perserverance and hard work.

But they would have to cut through a ton of bigotry to even get that thought to the speech centers in their brains, much less be able to articulate it.

311 Kragar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:19:57pm

Gun dealers out number grocery stores about 3 to 1 in US

There are more than 129,817 federally licensed firearms dealers in the United States, according to the latest Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives numbers (as of Aug. 1) . Of those, 51,438 are retail gun stores, 7,356 are pawn shops and 61,562 are collectors, with the balance of the licenses belonging mostly to manufacturers and importers of firearms and destructive devices.

For comparison, here are some numbers of other ubiquitous elements of American life:

Gas Stations in the U.S. (2011): 143,839 (source TD LINX/Nielsen via National Associations of Convenience Stores, Association for Convenience for Convenience and Fuel Retailing)
Grocery Stores in the U.S. (2011) 36,569 (source: Food Marketing Institute)
McDonald’s restaurants in the U.S. (2011): 14,098 (Source: McDonald’s Corporation Annual Report 2011)

312 Mocking Jay  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:19:59pm

omg!

313 Gus  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:20:47pm

From Twitchy.

Snooki gives birth to baby boy, Left asks if it’s too late for abortion.

Really? Nobody asked me. Then again I think my left card has been secretly revoked.

314 Targetpractice  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:20:54pm

re: #310 Expand Your Ground

Obama should be held up by conservatives as an example of how a even minority member can rise to the highest office in the land through perserverance and hard work.

But they would have to cut through a ton of bigotry to even get that thought to the speech centers in their brains, much less be able to articulate it.

They've committed themselves to dubbing him the "Affirmative Action President." I don't ever see them accepting him as an example of how minorities can rise up to great heights on their own merits.

315 Kragar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:21:14pm

re: #312 Mocking Jay

LOL!

316 AK-47%  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:21:45pm

re: #123 freetoken

When Priebus goes into "it's a non-starter" someone should have asked him right there why is Arpaio at the convention.

Arpaio is as well known for his anti-Immigration policies and draconian methods of dealing with prison overcrowding as he is for his birtherism.

317 makeitstop  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:22:03pm

re: #312 Mocking Jay

omg!

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If he wasn't such a total dissembling dick, I might be able to work up a little sympathy for him.

318 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:22:52pm

re: #317 makeitstop

he'll find my sympathy in the dictionary between shit and syphilis.

319 Kragar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:23:02pm

re: #316 Expand Your Ground

Arpaio is as well known for his anti-Immigration policies and methods of dealing with prison overcrowding as he is for his birtherism.

I thought it was funny as shit when the Christian group complained about Arpaio's jail when their local shithead got stuck there.

320 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:24:58pm

I little good news about Issac...

Isaac on track to hit New Orleans area, but as Category 1 hurricane

They were calling for a Category 2 this morning.

321 Kragar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:25:36pm

Pew: Americans More Interested In Party Platforms Than Candidate Speeches

I'm sure that is exactly what the GOP was hoping to hear.

322 HappyWarrior  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:26:05pm

re: #312 Mocking Jay

omg!

[Embedded content]

Oh dear.The 40 Year old Republican Virgin. Steve Carrell's Andy but instead of lovable dorkiness, you have annoying spin.

323 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:26:32pm

Outrageous Outrage of the day: wingnuts freak out over Scary Obama Shadow.

324 Targetpractice  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:27:26pm

Thank you, Weather Channel, for your accurate predictions yet again.

"Partly cloudy," my ass.

325 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:28:34pm

re: #321 Kragar

Snort. More Americans are interested in what's for dinner tonight, what she said about Jenny at the party last weekend, what's on the TV tonight, and how the local Football team's shaping up this year, than anything at either convention.

326 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:29:45pm

Another NY politician arrested.

Queens State Senator Charged in Corruption Investigation

MINEOLA, N.Y. — Shirley L. Huntley, a Democratic state senator from Queens, was accused by prosecutors on Monday of taking part in a scheme involving the misuse of money intended for a nonprofit group that was supposed to help guide parents through the New York City school system.

The charges against Ms. Huntley, who surrendered at the Nassau County court complex in Mineola, included tampering with evidence, conspiracy in the fifth degree and falsifying business records. The charges were filed by Eric T. Schneiderman, the New York attorney general, who was scheduled to hold a news conference on Monday afternoon to provide more details.

Ms. Huntley did not speak to reporters after she was charged, and she was surrounded by supporters who kept journalists from getting too close to her.

327 Kragar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:30:40pm

Pennsylvania GOP Senate Candidate: Getting Pregnant From Rape Is ‘Similar’ To Having A Baby Out Of Wedlock

Tom Smith, the Republican challenging Sen. Bob Casey’s (D-PA) seat, suggested that having a child out of wedlock was analogous to rape during an interview with a reporter at a press club this afternoon, claiming that it would have a “similar” effect on a father:

MARK SCOLFORO, ASSOCIATED PRESS: How would you tell a daughter or a granddaughter who, God forbid, would be the victim of a rape, to keep the child against her own will? Do you have a way to explain that?

SMITH: I lived something similar to that with my own family. She chose life, and I commend her for that. She knew my views. But, fortunately for me, I didn’t have to.. she chose they way I thought. No don’t get me wrong, it wasn’t rape.

SCOLFORO: Similar how?

SMITH: Uh, having a baby out of wedlock.

SCOLFORO: That’s similar to rape?

SMITH: No, no, no, but… put yourself in a father’s situation, yes. It is similar. But, back to the original, I’m pro-life, period.

328 Mocking Jay  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:30:43pm

What the fuck is wrong with these people and why do they have trouble understanding what "rape" is???

329 Gus  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:30:49pm

re: #323 Learned Mother of Zion

Outrageous Outrage of the day: wingnuts freak out over Scary Obama Shadow.

Oh that's too much. Nice photo of Obama looking up to the moon. I see this weirdo's name being thrown around Twitter from time to time: @Flynn1776 Red meat for their mouth breathing audience.

330 S'latch  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:31:08pm

Chris Matthews is sharp and he laid Reince Priebus bare in that exchange. The charge that the GOP continues to play xenophobic games and to appeal to irrational racial fears is not garbage; it can't be denied.

331 Gus  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:31:53pm

re: #323 Learned Mother of Zion

Outrageous Outrage of the day: wingnuts freak out over Scary Obama Shadow.

Here's the profile pic of the guy that gave him the tip.

Image: profile.jpg

332 HappyWarrior  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:32:07pm

re: #327 Kragar

Pennsylvania GOP Senate Candidate: Getting Pregnant From Rape Is ‘Similar’ To Having A Baby Out Of Wedlock

What is with these guys. I believe Ryan was recently quoted as saying that having a baby from rape is just another form of conception. To be a fly on the wall of the conversations these guys have with their wives.

333 Mocking Jay  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:33:16pm

re: #332 HappyWarrior

What is with these guys. I believe Ryan was recently quoted as saying that having a baby from rape is just another form of conception. To be a fly on the wall of the conversations these guys have with their wives.

"Method" was the word he used. You know, like you have the "rhythm method" you also have the "rape method."

334 HappyWarrior  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:34:21pm

re: #333 Mocking Jay

"Method" was the word he used. You know, like you have the "rhythm method" you also have the "rape method."

Yep. Seriously, these guys are a bunch of primitive assholes. No wonder why Akin's supporters want him to stay in because he's just spouting off what other candidates already say.

335 Gus  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:34:56pm

And of course Obama didn't post that. Sheesh remind me of some wingnuts I used to know. Obama derangement.

Image: profile.jpg

336 makeitstop  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:35:06pm

re: #331 Gus

Here's the profile pic of the guy that gave him the tip.

Image: profile.jpg

Future 40 year old virgin.

337 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:36:08pm

re: #332 HappyWarrior

Well, from a strictly scientific standpoint, they are correct.

From a strictly scientific standpoint, there is no difference between Kanye West and Mozart, either.

From a strictly scientific standpoint, Shakespeare did almost no work, because work is defined as moving mass over space, so every dockhand living back then did more work than he did.

Science is a narrowly defined thing, and doesn't particularly care about human emotions.

338 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:36:24pm

re: #335 Gus

And of course Obama didn't post that. Sheesh remind me of some wingnuts I used to know. Obama derangement.

Image: profile.jpg

WhoTF is that?

339 Gus  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:36:34pm

re: #336 makeitstop

Future 40 year old virgin.

It's weird. Looks like an old young guy or something.

340 erik_t  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:36:36pm

re: #327 Kragar

Pennsylvania GOP Senate Candidate: Getting Pregnant From Rape Is ‘Similar’ To Having A Baby Out Of Wedlock

This man should be shunned from polite society. I would cross the street to not share a sidewalk with him. I would not give him the time.

341 Gus  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:36:58pm

re: #338 Learned Mother of Zion

WhoTF is that?

[Link: twitter.com...]

342 Kragar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:37:11pm

re: #328 Mocking Jay

What the fuck is wrong with these people and why do they have trouble understanding what "rape" is???

[Embedded content]

Someone needs to clean up TPM comments now:

"Gene Starwind · Top Commenter
The same Bible that allows fathers to prostitute disobedient daughters and sell them into slavery?
There's a name for people who spend their lives in the Old Testament: Jews."

WTF is this shit?

343 HappyWarrior  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:37:42pm

re: #340 erik_t

This man should be shunned from polite society. I would cross the street to not share a sidewalk with him. I would not give him the time.

Fortunately I think Bob Casey is going to kick his ass the same way he did Rick Santorum but the fact that Pennsylvania is nominating guys like this is troubling since they used to have some pretty decent moderate Republicans come out of that state like John Heinz.

344 Mocking Jay  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:38:10pm

re: #342 Kragar

Yikes.

345 HappyWarrior  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:38:36pm

re: #342 Kragar

Someone needs to clean up TPM comments now:

WTF is this shit?

The fuck.

346 makeitstop  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:38:43pm

re: #339 Gus

It's weird. Looks like an old young guy or something.

And doing that Gaffney eyebrow thing, too. Weird.

347 Kragar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:39:36pm

re: #346 makeitstop

The look that says "I may have just farted, but can you smell the difference?"

348 erik_t  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:41:30pm

re: #343 HappyWarrior

There used to be pretty decent moderate Republicans.

349 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:42:15pm

The word for people who spent their lives in the Old Testament is dead.

It was written thousands of years ago.

Sheesh.

350 Kragar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:42:37pm

Boehner: The Economy Still Trumps All

The problem is the GOP ran on the economy in 2010 and look at what they did then. They run on the economy, then toss it aside for their social agenda.

351 HappyWarrior  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:42:46pm

re: #348 erik_t

There used to be pretty decent moderate Republicans.

I know. They've either died, retired, or been primaried.

352 Gus  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:42:49pm

Let's see what picture Romney posted for Mitt Romney!!11ty

Wait! "Romney" didn't post anything about Neil Armstrong!!11ty

353 HappyWarrior  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:43:12pm

re: #350 Kragar

Boehner: The Economy Still Trumps All

The problem is the GOP ran on the economy in 2010 and look at what they did then. They run on the economy, then toss it aside for their social agenda.

Which is why Boehner's party is focusing on hardcore pornography.

354 lawhawk  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:43:18pm

re: #326 NJDhockeyfan

That's a similar situation to that of Pedro Espada. These politicians create nonprofit organizations, and then funnel funds to them - member items in NYS. In Espada's case, he was found guilty of federal charges of embezzling funds in his nonprofit health care group (Soundview), but his relative had a mistrial. Espada stocked the nonprofit with relatives, and even sought to have the nonprofit cover his legal fees.

It remains to be seen whether Huntley's case is nearly as strong as Espada's. However, she's got the nepotism angle covered (she steered tons of money to her daughter and husband) in violation of campaign finance laws.

It's an all too common situation in the NYS legislature - members create nonprofits and then funnel funds to them while employing friends and family.

At the same time, you've got a major Assembly Democrat bigwig, Vito Lopez, who was just censured over a sexual harassment mess and stripped of his committee chairmanship - all while it came out that the Speaker's Office had previously settled on similar charges with other accusers.

355 Gus  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:43:51pm

So "Obama" posted something while "Romney" posted nothing.

356 Gus  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:44:06pm

Outrage!

357 Kragar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:44:18pm

re: #353 HappyWarrior

I think the answer would be to privatize hardcore pornography and limit federal regulation of the industry.

Wait a sec...

358 HappyWarrior  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:44:48pm

re: #357 Kragar

I think the answer would be to privatize hardcore pornography and limit federal regulation of the industry.

Wait a sec...

Pornographers are people too, my friend.

359 Eventual Carrion  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:45:50pm

re: #358 HappyWarrior

Pornographers are people too, my friend.

And pornographers are friendly too, my people.

360 erik_t  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:47:06pm

re: #355 Gus

So "Obama" posted something while "Romney" posted nothing.

That's the picture that has wingnuttia up in arms? Obama looking up in inspiration, humbled and made small by (IMHO) the greatest of American achievements?

Really? That's bad now?

361 Mich-again  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:47:26pm

re: #312 Mocking Jay

omg!

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Unless they change the backdrop, that awkward photo crop is going to happen over and again all week. Rand Paul, Paul Ryan, Ann Romney.. I say they hurry up and change the backdrop somehow.

362 HappyWarrior  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:48:13pm

re: #355 Gus

So "Obama" posted something while "Romney" posted nothing.

They're outraged over that? That?

363 HappyWarrior  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:50:17pm

re: #360 erik_t

That's the picture that has wingnuttia up in arms? Obama looking up in inspiration, humbled and made small by (IMHO) the greatest of American achievements?

Really? That's bad now?

I guess they see Obama as making this about him, of course if Obama said or did nothing at all following Armstrong's passing, they'd accuse him of disrespecting an American hero. I mean it's just sad at this point. There's nothing the guy can do without the blithering idiots like Breitbart getting pissy. Their lives must be miserable to get upset over everything a man does.

364 Gus  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:50:19pm

re: #360 erik_t

That's the picture that has wingnuttia up in arms? Obama looking up in inspiration, humbled and made small by (IMHO) the greatest of American achievements?

Really? That's bad now?

re: #362 HappyWarrior

They're outraged over that? That?

Yep.

365 makeitstop  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:50:21pm

re: #361 Mich-again

Unless they change the backdrop, that awkward photo crop is going to happen over and again all week. Rand Paul, Paul Ryan, Ann Romney.. I say they hurry up and change the backdrop somehow.

I think the backdrop is an animation that is constantly changing and featuring different states' names.

Now I gott go through all the state names and figure out what unintentional captions to look out for...

366 Gus  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:50:38pm

Front page news!

367 Kragar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:50:48pm

re: #361 Mich-again

And ruin the GOP's subliminal abstinence only sex ed program?

368 HappyWarrior  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:51:46pm

re: #364 Gus

re: #362 HappyWarrior

Yep.

Well this is a new stupid for even them. Never thought I'd see that day but then again I never thought I'd see the first man on the moon's death used as a cheap platform to bash Muslims either.

369 HappyWarrior  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:55:01pm

Image: moon_tiny.jpg
And then there's Jim Carrey's reaction in Dumb and Dumber when at an Aspen hotel bar seeing an actual headline from '69.

370 Gus  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:55:01pm

So they think Obama sat there and made that entry too.

371 Mocking Jay  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:55:16pm

re: #362 HappyWarrior

They're outraged over that? That?

Oh, hello. You must be new here.

372 HappyWarrior  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:57:52pm

re: #371 Mocking Jay

Oh, hello. You must be new here.

Haha, yeah, it's getting to the point of where we shouldn't be shocked by any of this anymore but damn. A photo of the president looking at the moon in awe and wonder upsets them? Just sad.

373 Petero1818  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:58:00pm

re: #363 HappyWarrior

I guess they see Obama as making this about him, of course if Obama said or did nothing at all following Armstrong's passing, they'd accuse him of disrespecting an American hero. I mean it's just sad at this point. There's nothing the guy can do without the blithering idiots like Breitbart getting pissy. Their lives must be miserable to get upset over everything a man does.

Not for nothing, I think it is a very cool image. Rather than it being about him, I think the picture rather conveys the smallness of the subject, in comparison to the vastness of the moon and space upon which he gazes.

374 HappyWarrior  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 12:58:37pm
Youtube Video

Here's that Dumb and Dumber clip.
375 HappyWarrior  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 1:00:05pm

re: #373 Petero1818

Not for nothing, I think it is a very cool image. Rather than it being about him, I think the picture rather conveys the smallness of the subject, in comparison to the vastness of the moon and space upon which he gazes.

Oh yeah, I agree absolutely. It really is amazing though when you think about. We've been looking at the moon in wonder and awe from our most primitive days as a species and to be able to walk on it as Neil did and be the first to do that is just amazing.

376 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 1:00:30pm

re: #372 HappyWarrior

Haha, yeah, it's getting to the point of where we shouldn't be shocked by any of this anymore but damn. A photo of the president looking at the moon in awe and wonder upsets them? Just sad.

SCARY OBAMA SHADOW!

377 Kragar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 1:00:33pm

Neal Boortz Tells Tea Party Rally to Bribe Their Neighbors to Vote In This Election

Youtube Video
378 Lidane  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 1:00:48pm

re: #327 Kragar

Pennsylvania GOP Senate Candidate: Getting Pregnant From Rape Is ‘Similar’ To Having A Baby Out Of Wedlock

I'd say what I think of this asshole and his comments, but I like it here at LGF.

379 Lidane  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 1:02:37pm
380 HappyWarrior  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 1:02:46pm

re: #377 Kragar

Neal Boortz Tells Tea Party Rally to Bribe Their Neighbors to Vote In This Election

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That's not even the worst part about what he says. Listen to how he describes Democratic voters. Way to go Boortz, using Nazi like rhetoric to describe people you don't like. But yeah he has no room to whine about "voter fraud" when he's actively encouraging bribery.

381 Lidane  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 1:04:38pm

re: #380 HappyWarrior

That's not even the worst part about what he says. Listen to how he describes Democratic voters. Way to go Boortz, using Nazi like rhetoric to describe people you don't like. But yeah he has no room to whine about "voter fraud" when he's actively encouraging bribery.

Pfft. Everyone knows that Democrats and liberals are the ones who engage in voter fraud. ACORN! Eleventy!

///

382 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 1:04:50pm

re: #355 Gus

So "Obama" posted something while "Romney" posted nothing.

Who maintains these Tumblr accounts? Not the President and the GOP Candidate. There is some low-level intern who does that.

383 Gus  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 1:04:59pm

Ha!

[Link: www.facebook.com...]

Mitt Romney posts picture of himself! Derp.

384 Gus  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 1:05:58pm

re: #382 Learned Mother of Zion

Who maintains these Tumblr accounts? Not the President and the GOP Candidate. There is some low-level intern who does that.

Yep. An intern with a manager. "Here, put this picture in there." I think it might be open over there too so it could be just about anybody.

385 Mocking Jay  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 1:06:35pm

re: #379 Lidane

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He's saving Sharia Law for his 3rd term...

386 Lidane  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 1:07:58pm

re: #385 Mocking Jay

He's saving Sharia Law for his 3rd term...

387 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 1:09:04pm

re: #311 Kragar

Gun dealers out number grocery stores about 3 to 1 in US

Well, that's really misleading to add Collector's Of Curios & Relics (FFL Type 3) in there. We are not allowed to have a storefront and can only use it for firearms that are more than 50 years old or have been specially designated and are not covered under the NFA. All other guns must be purchased at a FFL 1 like any other customer. I use mine to collect Mauser made and Mauser clone weapons, for example. But if I wanted to open a store "Old Willie's Old Mausers" forex, I'd have to apply for a Type 1 FFL like any other gunstore.

So subtract that 61,000 off the top before you get too excited.

388 HappyWarrior  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 1:09:15pm

re: #386 Lidane

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Heh glad Frum has a sense of humor.

389 erik_t  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 1:09:23pm

re: #376 Learned Mother of Zion

SCARY OBAMA SHADOW!

Well, you know what colors shadows are...

None more black. No wonder they're scared.

390 Petero1818  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 1:09:50pm

re: #379 Lidane

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Leave it to a Canadian to give one of the better assessments of the political realities in America. Frum is right that for all the rhetoric and all the ideolgical banter, outcomes are shaped more by circumstances often out of a President's control.

391 Gus  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 1:10:32pm

re: #389 erik_t

Well, you know what colors shadows are...

None more black. No wonder they're scared.

Crescent moon too.

MOOZLIMS!

392 Kragar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 1:11:12pm

re: #387 William Barnett-Lewis

Well, that's really misleading to add Collector's Of Curios & Relics (FFL Type 3) in there. We are not allowed to have a storefront and can only have firearms that are more than 50 years old or have been specially designated and are not covered under the NFA. I use mine to collect Mauser made and Mauser clone weapons, for example. But if I wanted to open a store "Old Willie's Old Mausers" forex, I'd have to apply for a Type 1 FFL like any other gunstore.

So subtract that 61,000 off the top before you get too excited.

So about 2 to 1 then, thats much better.
/

393 Mich-again  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 1:11:59pm

re: #383 Gus

Mitt Romney posts picture of himself! Derp.

What does this post from Mitt even mean??

Neil Armstrong today takes his place in the hall of heroes. The moon will miss its first son of earth.

He's talking bout the Moon Gherd !!

394 Kragar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 1:12:26pm

re: #389 erik_t

Well, you know what colors shadows are...

Not all of them.

Youtube Video
395 erik_t  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 1:12:38pm

re: #391 Gus

Crescent moon too.

MOOZLIMS!

He's standing on grass! Grass is green!

MOOOOOZLIMS!

396 Targetpractice  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 1:13:32pm

re: #379 Lidane

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I'd agree with all those, but also add a fifth prediction: A second Obama term means he gets to put another judge of his choosing the SCOTUS bench. Better to keep things 5-4 than to make 6-3 in the Right's favor.

397 Lidane  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 1:13:54pm
398 Gus  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 1:14:53pm

re: #393 Mich-again

What does this post from Mitt even mean??

He's talking bout the Moon Gherd !!

Could it be... Mitt Romney is a MOOZLIM TOO!!!??!??

399 Kragar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 1:15:12pm

re: #397 Lidane

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I hope he tells the Jobs!x3 joke again.

400 Mocking Jay  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 1:15:32pm

re: #397 Lidane

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I hope everyone realizes that that's a parody account...

401 AK-47%  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 1:15:36pm

re: #397 Lidane

Boehner says he hopes black, Latino voters 'won't show up' this election

Why rely on hope, Mr Speaker? Get proactive and MAKE IT HAPPEN!!!

402 Petero1818  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 1:15:39pm

re: #397 Lidane

National Journal ‏@nationaljournal
CORRECTION: Boehner suggests blacks, Latinos may not show up to vote in election [Link: njour.nl...]
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403 Gus  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 1:16:11pm
404 Lidane  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 1:16:35pm

re: #400 Mocking Jay

I hope everyone realizes that that's a parody account...

Of course. Everyone knows the real Mitt Romney Twitter feed is the one run by Mexican Mitt Romney. ;)

405 Targetpractice  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 1:17:48pm

re: #403 Gus

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I don't know which I find funnier: That he thinks birtherism is limited to the "fringe" of the GOP anymore or that he thinks Obama's responsible for keeping them in line.

406 Petero1818  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 1:17:57pm

re: #403 Gus

Its true, all basefringe republicans are plants.////

407 HappyWarrior  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 1:18:12pm

re: #403 Gus

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The mugs he's selling say otherwise but even if so, it takes a partisan hack like Rove to blame the birthers at the Republican convention on Obama himself.

408 Gus  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 1:18:15pm

Outrage!

I Tweeted it like this, "Boehner: Minorities Won't Turn Out for Obama." Read it. Didn't see anything about "hope." Although I'm sure he probably would hope for that. Much like "I hope pro-lifers don't show up to vote for Romney." No biggie.

409 Lidane  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 1:18:24pm

re: #403 Gus

The POTUS has been so quiet about the birhter loons that he's making money off them in his campaign store and openly joking about it.

410 Gus  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 1:19:10pm

Woops. BBL

411 Lidane  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 1:20:00pm
412 AK-47%  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 1:20:00pm

Obama played the birther thing masterfully. Rove is right: he could have quashed it at the outset, and Rove tried warning his fellow Republicans that it was a "trap" being set by Obama.

It was more of a Wile E. Coyote vs. Roadrunner thing: Obama just let it run out until the Right was so heavily invested in it that they could not back down from it once he finally did release it.

And now the boulder has rolled up the cliff side and is about to roll back down on the Coyote...

413 HappyWarrior  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 1:20:20pm

re: #409 Lidane

The POTUS has been so quiet about the birhter loons that he's making money off them in his campaign store and openly joking about it.

And making his campaign song of the day- Born in the USA. Honestly even if he were being quiet on it like Rove falsely says, that's not egging them on. Did Karl's boss, Bush encourage 9/11 truthers by not saying repeatedly the the government didn't let 9/11 happen on purpose? Of course not because it's not the president's job to tell a bunch of crazy wackjobs they're crazy. Now if you want to have fun with it like Obama's campaign has, go for it.

414 makeitstop  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 1:20:24pm

re: #400 Mocking Jay

I hope everyone realizes that that's a parody account...

The article he links to is real, though.

Boehner: Minorities Won't Turn Out for Obama

415 AK-47%  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 1:21:21pm

re: #408 Gus

Outrage!

I Tweeted it like this, "Boehner: Minorities Won't Turn Out for Obama." Read it. Didn't see anything about "hope." Although I'm sure he probably would hope for that. Much like "I hope pro-lifers don't show up to vote for Romney." No biggie.

No "hope", but his observation is well justified: minorities will not be out in the same strength as they were in 2008, and Mitt's only hope is to get enough white people outraged enough to go out and vote for him.

416 Targetpractice  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 1:21:44pm

re: #412 Expand Your Ground

Obama played the birther thing masterfully. ROve is right: he could have quashed it at the outset, and Rove tried warning his fellow Republicans that it was a "trap" being set by Obama.

It was more of a Wile E. Coyote vs. Roadrunner thing: Obama just let it run out until the Right was so heavily invested in it that they could not back down from it once he finally did release it.

And now the boulder has rolled up the cliff side and is about to roll back down on the Coyote...

Obama follows the advice of the Little Corporal: "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."

417 HappyWarrior  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 1:22:30pm

I have a hard time believing Boehner understands minority voters and if they're going to turn out in November. Whole thing just comes across as Boehner talking out of his ass and an acknowledgment that his party sucks with minority voters.

418 Kragar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 1:22:41pm

Newly-Appointed SF Archbishop Arrested For DUI In San Diego

The recently-appointed archbishop of the San Francisco archdiocese was arrested over the weekend on suspicion of drunk driving, according to San Diego Police.

Bishop Salvatore J. Cordileone was arrested on Saturday at 12:26 a.m. after being stopped by police. The 56-year-old was booked on a misdemeanor charge and posted bail.

419 Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 1:23:29pm

Heads up people, Isaac is finally starting to get together, Pressure is down to 982mb and it looks like the wind speeds are finally starting to respond to the pressure drop.

It should be a hurricane at 5PM

420 Kragar  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 1:24:04pm

re: #411 Lidane

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Bachmann should say something historical and topical like "We're going to stand our ground like Custer!"

421 Targetpractice  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 1:26:26pm

re: #417 HappyWarrior

I have a hard time believing Boehner understands minority voters and if they're going to turn out in November. Whole thing just comes across as Boehner talking out of his ass and an acknowledgment that his party sucks with minority voters.

I'd say more an admission that the GOP knows there's nothing they can offer minority voters and so they must settle for hoping that minorities don't show up at the polls in large enough numbers to overcome the outraged white vote.

422 TheSwedish  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 1:26:33pm

Reince Priebus looks like the kind of guy who lures children into vans with promises of candy.

See what I did there, Reincey? I played your game! How does it taste?

423 HappyWarrior  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 1:28:12pm

re: #421 Targetpractice

I'd say more an admission that the GOP knows there's nothing they can offer minority voters and so they must settle for hoping that minorities don't show up at the polls in large enough numbers to overcome the outraged white vote.

Sure, that works as well. They're the party of angry old white guys at this point.

424 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 1:28:26pm

re: #372 HappyWarrior

Haha, yeah, it's getting to the point of where we shouldn't be shocked by any of this anymore but damn. A photo of the president looking at the moon in awe and wonder upsets them? Just sad.

Imagine the outrage if it had happened to be a *crescent* moon!
:D

425 HappyWarrior  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 1:30:10pm

re: #424 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Imagine the outrage if it had happened to be a *crescent* moon!
:D

OMG OBAMA'S DICTATING SHARIAH LAW TO THE MOON!!??!

427 Eventual Carrion  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 1:58:46pm

re: #426 Kragar

Rush Limbaugh Suggests Obama Manipulated Hurricane Predictions To Get GOP To Cancel Convention

What do you expect when they keep using those socialist European models for the tracking?

428 Patricia Kayden  Mon, Aug 27, 2012 2:34:24pm

Have always loved Matthews. Sometimes he's too passionate and speaks out of turn, but generally a cool dude. But it's about to get much worst. I'm sure that with all the money pouring into the Republican convention this week, we're going to be inundated by ugly race baiting ads.
Romney and his billionaire pals have only just begun.


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