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1 freetoken  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:18:43pm

Perhaps he thought he was doing an improv on Macbeth?

2 darthstar  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:18:53pm

Rambling old man yells at chair. Film at eleven.

3 Targetpractice  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:19:31pm

He thought the people were laughing at his jokes. What he fails to realize is that those who weren't laughing at him were cringing in sympathy for his dignity.

4 darthstar  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:19:51pm
5 darthstar  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:20:42pm

re: #3 Targetpractice

He thought the people were laughing at his jokes. What he fails to realize is that those who weren't laughing at him were cringing in sympathy for his dignity.

People were thinking, What could be more pathetic than this? And then Marco Rubio introduced Mitt Romney.

6 moderatelyradicalliberal  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:21:24pm

Seriously, did anybody see that chair bit before it aired? Or do Republicans really think Cling is Dirty Harry and they were afraid to say anything?

7 Targetpractice  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:21:25pm

Think it says something for a candidate when the best they can hope for is that nobody was paying attention to their speech because they were too busy wondering who let the crazy man on stage.

8 Lidane  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:21:35pm

What are the chances that Clint Eastwood was trolling the RNC?

9 jaunte  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:22:08pm

I still think he did it more for his upcoming movie publicity than anything else.
People are now talking about Clint Eastwood.

10 HappyWarrior  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:22:11pm

A few things
1.) Did they not look at his prepared remarks at all?
2.) Is the poor man growing senile?
3.) Really a chair?

11 JamesWI  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:22:55pm

I'm not sure this isn't photoshopped, but it's still perfect:

Image: 315079_426668737369703_1879877859_n.jpg

12 darthstar  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:23:46pm

Holy shit. FREE MEXICANMITTROMNEY NOW!

13 Targetpractice  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:24:11pm

re: #10 HappyWarrior

A few things
1.) Did they not look at his prepared remarks at all?
2.) Is the poor man growing senile?
3.) Really a chair?

Think 2 & 3 really go back to 1, namely "Who the fuck approved this improv bit?" If it was somebody on Mitt's staff, then they should be receiving a pink slip tomorrow. If nobody, then that really does bring into question just what sort of a chickenshit outfit is Romney running?

14 darthstar  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:24:48pm
15 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:25:06pm

One the one hand I'm like fuck him, he deserves to be remembered as an old fool for agreeing to speak at the convention. On the other it's pretty fucking sad and embarrassing to see someone make such a pathetic spectacle of themselves, especially when it's an American icon. It's infuriating to see a political party use someone and put them on display when they're so far out of their depth.

Just depressing.

16 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:25:43pm

re: #10 HappyWarrior

A few things
1.) Did they not look at his prepared remarks at all?
2.) Is the poor man growing senile?
3.) Really a chair?

It's an old therapy thing, isn't it? You pretend your dad is in the chair, and yell all the stuff you always wanted to say.

17 HappyWarrior  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:26:04pm

re: #11 JamesWI

I'm not sure this isn't photoshopped, but it's still perfect:

Image: 315079_426668737369703_1879877859_n.jpg

Abe was yelling at a cloud which makes actually a little more sense than a chair.

18 jaunte  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:26:50pm
19 darthstar  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:27:20pm
20 Mocking Jay  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:27:42pm

re: #12 darthstar

Holy shit. FREE MEXICANMITTROMNEY NOW!

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Twittero Gulago!

21 Lidane  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:27:57pm
22 darthstar  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:28:33pm

re: #18 jaunte

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Okay, that's funny...mean, but funny. Someone had better apologize (to Dali) for that.

23 HappyWarrior  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:29:02pm

re: #13 Targetpractice

Think 2 & 3 really go back to 1, namely "Who the fuck approved this improv bit?" If it was somebody on Mitt's staff, then they should be receiving a pink slip tomorrow. If nobody, then that really does bring into question just what sort of a chickenshit outfit is Romney running?

Any real possibility that person could have been Mitt himself? Part of me wonders if he was thinking "Gee, a chance to meet Clint Eastwood and he supports me for president, let's give the old guy a chance to speak on my behalf." I actually feel kind of bad for Clint because he really embarrassed himself up there.

24 jaunte  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:29:24pm

"Chair, why is my clock melting?"

25 Lidane  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:29:27pm

Hahaha:

Salon: Clint Eastwood tells chair to get out of Afghanistan

26 Lidane  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:31:14pm
27 darthstar  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:31:59pm

I heard this too but wasn't sure I heard it correctly.

28 Targetpractice  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:32:01pm

Heh, just decided to peek in on the Freepers, see what they thought of Clint's speech. And apparently they all think it was the greatest speech of the night. Which says a lot about the level of sanity over at FR.

29 jaunte  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:32:23pm

Clint-n'-Chair meme kit:
Image: clint_chair.jpg

30 Lidane  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:32:23pm

BOOM! Headshot:

31 darthstar  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:32:33pm

Two women who said they thought Mitt was inspriational and they can't remember a damn thing he said.

32 HappyWarrior  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:32:37pm

re: #27 darthstar

I heard this too but wasn't sure I heard it correctly.

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Being at Hooters was likely a more intellectual experience.

33 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:32:53pm

Mitt needs a new staff. They all hate him and want him to lose.
//
But really, professionals aren't supposed to be this consistently bad.
On second thought, I think they're just marvelous!

34 Kragar  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:33:07pm

Wow, I was just checking the RNC photos and it turns out invisible Obama is in every single one.

35 dragonath  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:33:23pm

All that preparation and still Clint Eastwood had the best written speech.

36 Lidane  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:33:46pm
37 HappyWarrior  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:33:57pm

Jay Roach is probably interested in seeing how this turns out after making Recount and Game Change. Does a pretty good job in political drama for someone whose trade is comedy(He did the Austin Powers movies)

38 Mocking Jay  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:34:03pm

re: #30 Lidane

BOOM! Headshot:

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holy shit

Served!

39 moderatelyradicalliberal  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:34:58pm

re: #34 Kragar

Wow, I was just checking the RNC photos and it turns out invisible Obama is in every single one.

LOL!

40 jaunte  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:35:07pm

Fact-Checking Romney
[Link: elections.nytimes.com...]

41 Mattand  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:35:09pm

re: #25 Lidane

Hahaha:

Salon: Clint Eastwood tells chair to get out of Afghanistan

I may not watch Clint's speech after all. Kinda sounds like he made a bit of fool of himself.

42 HappyWarrior  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:35:23pm

re: #30 Lidane

BOOM! Headshot:

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Watch him get accused of "mocking the elderly" or "an American hero" over that one by the usual suspects. Though I think some of them are even laughing at Clint right now.

43 Targetpractice  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:35:41pm

Initial impression from one of the TPM editors, the last two paragraphs the most telling:

Very Quick Take

But on balance, I thought it was fairly weak as a speech. He’s the underdog and he’s the guy who needs to have a galvanizing introduction to the general public. In those terms, it was a missed opportunity. A pretty big one.

Just after the speech, on CNN, they asked Alex Castellanos what he thought of the speech. Alex’s response: “Good enough.” Yeah, pretty apt response.

44 moderatelyradicalliberal  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:35:49pm

re: #30 Lidane

BOOM! Headshot:

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Nicely done Mr. President.

45 jaunte  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:37:29pm

Mitt Romney said Barack Obama began his presidency with an apology tour

"While Obama's speeches contained some criticisms of past U.S. actions, he typically combined those passages with praise for the United States and its ideals, and he frequently mentioned how other countries had erred as well. We found not a single, full-throated apology in the bunch.

Calling those remarks "an apology tour" is a ridiculous charge. So we rate his statement Pants on Fire."

46 freetoken  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:37:48pm

re: #28 Targetpractice

Heh, just decided to peek in on the Freepers, see what they thought of Clint's speech. And apparently they all think it was the greatest speech of the night. Which says a lot about the level of sanity over at FR.

But... it was the best speech of the night!

47 HappyWarrior  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:38:42pm

re: #45 jaunte

Mitt Romney said Barack Obama began his presidency with an apology tour

He's been running with that sad canard for a while now. After the election though, I think Obama will be making one apology in particular. "I'm sorry that you nearly had to deal with that guy as the representative of the American people."

48 jaunte  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:38:51pm
49 HappyWarrior  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:39:25pm

re: #28 Targetpractice

Heh, just decided to peek in on the Freepers, see what they thought of Clint's speech. And apparently they all think it was the greatest speech of the night. Which says a lot about the level of sanity over at FR.

They would think that Clint shooting at an Obama effigy would be the best speech of the night.

50 danarchy  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:40:19pm

re: #30 Lidane

BOOM! Headshot:

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Do you think those are the right words to use when posting a picture of the back of the presidents head ;)

51 Targetpractice  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:41:31pm

re: #49 HappyWarrior

They would think that Clint shooting at an Obama effigy would be the best speech of the night.

Heh, that's nothing, decided to check the poll they're running on how people rated Willard's acceptance speech. And either a lot of posters are gonna be buried on FR's Boot Hill before sunrise or the owner's decided that his previous anti-Mitt policy no longer applies, because some were suggesting it was the best speech since Reagan.

52 Lidane  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:41:37pm

Looks like Princess Dumbass of the Northwoods might be out of a job:

53 Mich-again  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:42:05pm

Who said this earlier today..

I can not see Clint Eastwood going out there and flinging poo at Obama or leading the hip hip hooray's for Mitt either, and I doubt if he's going to let anyone from the GOP tell him what he can or can't say.

Out of respect I didn't use the term loose cannon but I should have..

54 HappyWarrior  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:42:40pm

re: #52 Lidane

Looks like Princess Dumbass of the Northwoods might be out of a job:

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*fingers crossed* Hoping her 15 minutes of fame are finally done.

55 Lidane  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:42:55pm

re: #50 danarchy

Do you think those are the right words to use when posting a picture of the back of the presidents head ;)

Haha. I didn't even think of that. I was more concerned with the pwnage of that tweet. XD

56 Mich-again  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:43:53pm

I see a movie plot here. Momma Grizzly versus Josey Wales. Empty stares and empty chairs.

57 HappyWarrior  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:44:03pm

re: #51 Targetpractice

Heh, that's nothing, decided to check the poll they're running on how people rated Willard's acceptance speech. And either a lot of posters are gonna be buried on FR's Boot Hill before sunrise or the owner's decided that his previous anti-Mitt policy no longer applies, because some were suggesting it was the best speech since Reagan.

"I was alive during Ronald Reagan's presidency. I was one and a half years old when he left office. You, Mitt are no Ronald Reagan."

58 engineer cat  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:44:46pm

too depressing to contemplate that so many lies were propagated that no amount of refutation will mitigate

i'd rather watch the history channel where all the bad news is something that happened in the past

59 freetoken  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:45:20pm

re: #52 Lidane

She better hope her daughter does well on DWTS, otherwise their Reality TV enterprise will be finished.

60 Lidane  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:45:30pm
61 Prideful, Arrogant Marriage Equality Advocate  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:46:06pm

Please tell me this is all some big weird dream.

62 Mocking Jay  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:46:11pm

Wow.

Tonight was a thing that happened, right?

63 Targetpractice  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:46:39pm

re: #60 Lidane

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The GOP spent most of this week trying to tell minorities "Vote for us because the Democrats are bad for you. Overlook all that shit we've been doing to you for years/decades, we really want you to like us!"

64 moderatelyradicalliberal  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:46:46pm

re: #60 Lidane

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Tee hee.

65 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:47:25pm

re: #62 Mocking Jay

Wow.

Tonight was a thing that happened, right?

Kinda grabs you by the boo-boo, doesn't it?
Image: upinsmoke.jpg

66 HappyWarrior  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:49:05pm

Just think they've been trying to put the message of we're not just angry old white guys and then they put up an angry old white guy who yells at a chair. Oh well, just imagine if they gave Rush Limbaugh a speaking gig one of these days which who knows after this debacle may end up happening.

67 jaunte  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:50:24pm
68 Mich-again  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:50:25pm

re: #58 engineer cat

i'd rather watch the history channel where all the bad news is something that happened in the past

An episode of Ancient Aliens would be closer to truth.

69 Prideful, Arrogant Marriage Equality Advocate  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:52:18pm

Hey remember a time when there were a lot of people in the Republican party who were certain Ann Coulter just had to be a Liberal plant to make them look bad? HA!

70 Mich-again  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:52:35pm

This seat's taken..

[Link: twitter.com...]

71 Mich-again  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:53:23pm

re: #70 Mich-again

That might just be the best tweet ever. wow.

72 moderatelyradicalliberal  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:55:19pm

re: #70 Mich-again

This seat's taken..

[Link: twitter.com...]

I love that man.

73 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:56:09pm

Well, I think I'll still be able to watch Clint's movies. He hasn't ruined it like Tom Cruise, Mel Gibson, Chuck Norris or John Voight.
He just seems like an old cooter.
We'll see.

74 Mich-again  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:56:57pm

re: #72 moderatelyradicalliberal

I love that man.

Heads exploding like cantaloupes dropped on the highway..

75 moderatelyradicalliberal  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:57:29pm

PBO was Eastwooding before Eastwood.

[Link: www.flickr.com...]

76 jaunte  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:57:58pm
77 HappyWarrior  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:58:30pm

re: #73 OhNoZombies!

Well, I think I'll still be able to watch Clint's movies. He hasn't ruined it like Tom Cruise, Mel Gibson, Chuck Norris or John Voight.
He just seems like an old cooter.
We'll see.

Going to be watching Escape From Alcatraz again with my Dad and brother since we visited it when we went to San Francisco and Santa Cruz in July. I feel more pity than disgust with Eastwood. I mean it's not like he made some crazy claims like Chuck Norris does about Shariah Law. But then again it's not like I liked Norris much anyhow.

78 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:58:55pm

re: #72 moderatelyradicalliberal

I love that man.

Image: bDCNv.jpg

79 moderatelyradicalliberal  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 9:59:45pm

PBO Eastwooding some more.

[Link: twitter.com...]

81 Gus  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:02:28pm

Tonight that American flag is still there on the moon. And I don't doubt for a second that Neil Armstrong's spirit is still with us: that unique blend of optimism, humility and the utter confidence that when the world needs someone to do the really big stuff, you need an American...

And Wernher Von Braun.

82 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:02:42pm

re: #77 HappyWarrior
"I feel more pity than disgust with Eastwood."

Same here.
And I never got Chuck Norris either.

83 HappyWarrior  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:02:54pm

re: #80 Mocking Jay

Wow.

I mean WOW.

What the f...

Father Benedict Groeschel, American Friar, Claims Teens Seduce Priests In Some Sex Abuse Cases

I can't even express how fucked up that is.

84 HappyWarrior  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:03:20pm

re: #82 OhNoZombies!

"I feel more pity than disgust with Eastwood."

Same here.
And I never got Chuck Norris either.

My beard is better than Chuck's right now. Not that I'm bragging.

85 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:03:37pm

Frank says:

Youtube Video
86 jaunte  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:03:49pm

re: #81 Gus

When the world needs someone to do the really big stuff, you need an American

"No Kenyans, Indonesians or Hawaiians need apply!"

87 Lidane  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:03:55pm

re: #80 Mocking Jay

Typical victim blaming. It's no different than the rapist saying that what a woman wore or said or drank implied that she was seducing him and that she wanted sex.

88 moderatelyradicalliberal  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:04:54pm

re: #80 Mocking Jay

Wow.

I mean WOW.

What the f...

Father Benedict Groeschel, American Friar, Claims Teens Seduce Priests In Some Sex Abuse Cases

Awful, terrible, foul human being.

89 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:04:56pm

re: #81 Gus

Yes. Many German physicists and engineers...

90 HappyWarrior  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:05:18pm

It's not merely the victim blaming which is fucking disgusting in itself. It's that he's also saying that RCC priests have no control over themselves. Really if the RCC wants to know why they're losing members, they can really stop with the blaming the victims of child abuse rather than focusing on the fact they have a very real problem.

91 jaunte  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:06:52pm

re: #81 Gus

Tonight that American flag is still there on the moon. And I don't doubt for a second that Neil Armstrong's spirit is still with us: that unique blend of optimism, humility and the utter confidence that when the world needs someone to do the really big stuff, you need an American...

I find it disgusting that the leader and Presidential candidate of one of the two major American political parties stoops this low, to wink at the birther crazies, in his nomination speech.

92 freetoken  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:07:15pm

re: #81 Gus

Operation Paper Clip

93 moderatelyradicalliberal  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:07:27pm

re: #86 jaunte

"No Kenyans, Indonesians or Hawaiians need apply!"

Nelson Mandela, Gandhi, Albert Einstein and Jesus Christ would like to have a word with Willard about the whole only American's doing great things crap.

94 Mich-again  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:07:45pm

re: #81 Gus

Tonight that American flag is still there on the moon. And I don't doubt for a second that Neil Armstrong's spirit is still with us: that unique blend of optimism, humility and the utter confidence that when the world needs someone to do the really big stuff, you need an American...

And Wernher Von Braun.

I bet by now the colors are totally faded and the flag is all white. A perfect symbol for the GOP Tea Party of 2012.

95 Targetpractice  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:07:55pm

re: #89 OhNoZombies!

Yes. Many German physicists and engineers...

Who only got people in power to start listening to them when the Soviets launched Sputnik, proving that ICBMs were something very real and very deadly.

96 Lidane  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:08:26pm

re: #90 HappyWarrior

It's not merely the victim blaming which is fucking disgusting in itself. It's that he's also saying that RCC priests have no control over themselves.

Nah, it's all part of the same victim blaming that women deal with when it comes to rape. The typical line of bullshit is that men are hardwired for sex anytime, anywhere, with any woman they can get it from and they have no control over their impulses, so what a woman wears, says, and drinks makes a difference. He's just a mindless brute, so how the hell is he supposed to know she meant no? It's the usual excuse for claiming that date rape doesn't exist.

Same thing here, only this asshole is applying it to priests molesting kids, which is a whole new level of fucked up.

97 HappyWarrior  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:10:10pm

re: #96 Lidane

Nah, it's all part of the same victim blaming that women deal with when it comes to rape. The typical line of bullshit is that men are hardwired for sex anytime, anywhere, with any woman they can get it from and they have no control over their impulses, so what a woman wears, says, and drinks makes a difference. He's just a mindless brute, so how the hell is he supposed to know she meant no? It's the usual excuse for claiming that date rape doesn't exist.

Same thing here, only this asshole is applying it to priests molesting kids, which is a whole new level of fucked up.

True that. Fucking asshole. Only reconfirms my disgust with organized religion.

98 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:10:26pm

re: #84 HappyWarrior

But can it do this!!!
But seriously, I hope to gawd it can't.

99 Gus  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:10:46pm

Fucking aye. The gal to be making jokes about the Russian experience in Afghanistan and Eastwood rambling about the situation there. So hypocritical.

100 jaunte  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:12:10pm

Intrade: Mitt Romney to be elected President in 2012

43.4% CHANCE
Last prediction was: $4.34 / share

Today's Change: $0.00 (+0%)

[Link: www.intrade.com...]

101 freetoken  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:12:39pm

The Tea Partying reactionary right, combined with their religious cheerleaders, make a loud statement about America.

It's one word: insecurity.

102 Mich-again  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:13:27pm
103 HappyWarrior  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:15:01pm

re: #100 jaunte

Intrade: Mitt Romney to be elected President in 2012

Debates and DNC are going to be interesting. I really can't imagine the DNC being the circus that this was even if Obama doesn't give a good speech and he's a sure bet to give a good one.

104 Gus  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:15:39pm

Well. I might not like what Eastwood is saying but I have to admit that it's got a market.

105 dragonath  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:15:47pm

This convention was so generic... so the weird parts really stick out.

I really think Obama has something special saved up next week.

106 Lidane  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:16:12pm
107 engineer cat  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:17:26pm

reuters/ipsos poll showing rombley going from 4 pts behind on monday to two pts ahead today

empty chair will be polled tomorrow

108 Targetpractice  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:17:29pm

re: #105 dragonath

This convention was so generic... so the weird parts really stick out.

I really think Obama has something special saved up next week.

This convention's entire theme seemed to be "Disappointed in Obama? Then vote for us, we've got an empty promise that will appeal to you."

109 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:18:05pm

The RNC convention going first is a plus for the DNC, I think.
Obama's speech-fu should knock it out of the ballpark.

110 Gus  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:19:41pm

re: #107 engineer cat

reuters/ipsos poll showing rombley going from 4 pts behind on monday to two pts ahead today

empty chair will be polled tomorrow

I'm guessing another 2 points over that for a total of 4.

111 Prideful, Arrogant Marriage Equality Advocate  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:22:51pm

I thought Eastwood was an old Lincoln Republican and would never endorse this modern version. So disappointed.

112 terraincognita  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:25:16pm

Eastwood's performance was just a Republican's version of theatre of the absurd. Call it Romney's Waiting for Godot.

113 Targetpractice  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:27:48pm

re: #111 Prideful, Arrogant Marriage Equality Advocate

I thought Eastwood was an old Lincoln Republican and would never endorse this modern version. So disappointed.

Curious as to whether he volunteered or was requested to appear tonight.

114 Gus  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:29:31pm

I like patriotism. Parades, the military, air shows, the smell of jet fuel and the sound of afterburners. I even like to listen to patriotic music. When I play Columbia here it's not just for shits and giggles. I really like it. There's a sense of pride in being an American. But I just don't like the idea of basing my pride on thinking that I'm better than everyone. It's just empty nationalism. People in other countries will do the same thing. On it goes.

115 dragonath  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:30:20pm

If Democrats get to request random actors, I'd like to nominate George Takei

116 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:30:55pm

re: #111 Prideful, Arrogant Marriage Equality Advocate

Charlton Heston comes to mind. H went from marching for Civil Rights Dem. to NRA Republican.
I'm gonna chalk it up to age.

117 Mich-again  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:31:34pm

re: #115 dragonath

If Democrats get to request random actors, I'd like to nominate George Takei

funny because I was thinking Bill Shatner..

118 CriticalDragon1177  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:32:23pm

Charles Johnson,

I keep seeing this Islamophobic "counter Jihad" Muslim brotherhood has infiltrated the white house add in your side bar.

If you click on it, here is where it takes you.

[Link: www.frontpagemag.net...]

Were you aware that this David Horrowitz freedom Center / Robert Spencer Jihad watch add has been appearing on your site?

119 freetoken  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:32:57pm

re: #118 CriticalDragon1177

The ads are served up by a bot.

120 Gus  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:33:21pm

Senator Bob Mendez (D-NJ) decided to follow me.

121 Gus  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:34:43pm

Wernher von Braun of course was not wanted for war crimes. Americans treated former POWs much better than the Russians.

122 Gus  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:35:40pm

re: #118 CriticalDragon1177

Charles Johnson,

I keep seeing this Islamophobic "counter Jihad" Muslim brotherhood has infiltrated the white house add in your side bar.

If you click on it, here is where it takes you.

[Link: www.frontpagemag.net...]

Were you aware that this David Horrowitz freedom Center / Robert Spencer Jihad watch add has been appearing on your site?

Someone else mentioned that before. Thanks for the reminder.

123 Gus  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:36:17pm

Tom Lehrer - Wernher von Braun

Youtube Video
124 CriticalDragon1177  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:37:18pm

re: #119 freetoken

The ads are served up by a bot.

So I guess Charles Johnson has no control over it than? Its kind of ironic that I would see that here, given how he has utterly repudiated them. This is the last place I'd expect to come across that, other than a site devoted to fighting anti Muslim bigotry or a Muslim website.

125 Obdicut  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:37:21pm

re: #114 Gus

Patriotism should inspire, not satisfy.

126 dragonath  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:37:24pm

re: #117 Mich-again

funny because I was thinking Bill Shatner..

IntroducingthePresident... of... the... UnitedStates.

127 CriticalDragon1177  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:38:43pm

re: #122 Gus

Someone else mentioned that before. Thanks for the reminder.

Is there anything you can do about it? Based on what Freetoken says, it sounds like you have no control over it.

128 Targetpractice  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:39:53pm

re: #121 Gus

Wernher von Braun of course was not wanted for war crimes. Americans treated former POWs much better than the Russians.

von Braun was a pragmatic guy, like a lot of the scientists who didn't flee Germany were during the war. He had peaceful intentions and saw in his work the chance to take man to great heights. Problem was, purely peaceful research was useless to the Reich war machine and there was no money or fame to be made in it. So you sold your work to them as the means to produce more powerful and deadly weapons, counting on the post-war government to generously fund all sorts of peaceful research again.

129 Gus  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:40:00pm

re: #127 CriticalDragon1177

Is there anything you can do about it? Based on what Freetoken says, it sounds like you have no control over it.

Me? Nah.

130 freetoken  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:40:05pm

re: #124 CriticalDragon1177

I think he has to explicitly block any given advert.

However, you may be being served an ad by say Google based not on LGF but on what a bot think it knows about you.

131 Gus  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:40:57pm

I'm too unpredictable to be a moderator.

//

132 CriticalDragon1177  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:42:06pm

re: #130 freetoken

I think he has to explicitly block any given advert.

However, you may be being served an ad by say Google based not on LGF but on what a bot think it knows about you.

How would it know anything about me?

133 freetoken  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:43:28pm

re: #132 CriticalDragon1177

How would it know anything about me?

U iz being tracked.

134 Gus  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:43:38pm

But I'm not too wigged out about that Romney "American" comment. Meh.

135 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:44:27pm

re: #124 CriticalDragon1177

So I guess Charles Johnson has no control over it than? Its kind of ironic that I would see that here, given how he has utterly repudiated them. This is the last place I'd expect to come across that, other than a site devoted to fighting anti Muslim bigotry or a Muslim website.

Advertising money is money. I think that Charles takes it & laughs.

136 Gus  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:45:26pm

The only time I'm ever outraged is when people think I'm outraged.

[Sits down.]

137 Gus  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:47:51pm

Sometimes you will hear music and think it's the most awful thing you've heard. Not understanding how anyone can like it. Yet then find out that the music has over 200,000,000 fans around the world.

138 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:48:05pm

Too tired to type, my brain has gone numb,
Keep fighting the fight, or go GOP dumb !
...or...something.
Happy dreams folks.

139 CriticalDragon1177  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:48:21pm

re: #135 Dancing along the light of day

Advertising money is money. I think that Charles takes it & laughs.

Well, if that's true, he's doing the wrong thing. If he's actually doing that, he's helping to promote them and their bigoted agenda.

Charles, are you doing that?

140 freetoken  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:48:32pm

re: #132 CriticalDragon1177

Do you know how many cookies have been deposited on your computer?

For instance, CBS.com has 22 cookies in my cookie cache... I don't know why, but they do.

141 CriticalDragon1177  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:50:03pm

re: #140 freetoken

Do you know how many cookies have been deposited on your computer?

For instance, CBS.com has 22 cookies in my cookie cache... I don't know why, but they do.

I'll check, but I have a feeling that's not it.

142 freetoken  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:51:58pm

re: #141 CriticalDragon1177

I'll check, but I have a feeling that's not it.

Well, it might not be possible to tell.

And, agencies can track your IP, for instance.

Once you're on a list as a possible customer of political websites, you will be served ads along those lines.

143 Targetpractice  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:52:39pm

And for a convention whose theme is "We Built It!" and a disdain for government help, bringing up Neil Armstrong is rather humorous.

- His father was an auditor for the state of Ohio.
- Neil received his K-12 education in public schools.
- He got his B.A. in Aeronautical Engineering from Purdue University, a public college.
- He paid for his college education by using the Holloway Program, which meant the government picked up the tab in exchange for service in the Navy.
- He was a decorated Navy combat pilot who flew in the Korean War.
- He was a test pilot for the NACA, the predecessor to NASA, as a test pilot for high speed research.
- He was selected to be an astronaut by the Air Force and was trained for the program by them.

I think we can all be very impressed by the success of the private sector in putting the first man on the Moon.///

144 CriticalDragon1177  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:53:34pm

re: #142 freetoken

Well, it might not be possible to tell.

And, agencies can track your IP, for instance.

Once you're on a list as a possible customer of political websites, you will be served ads along those lines.

I just saw it again, and this time in-between this thread and previous one, not in the sidebar.

145 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:54:01pm

re: #139 CriticalDragon1177

Well, if that's true, he's doing the wrong thing. If he's actually doing that, he's helping to promote them and their bigoted agenda.

Charles, are you doing that?

Why do you think that is wrong?

146 Mich-again  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:54:18pm

re: #142 freetoken

Well, it might not be possible to tell.

And, agencies can track your IP, for instance.

Once you're on a list as a possible customer of political websites, you will be served ads along those lines.

I had to click on about 20 Romney ads at FB and report them as offensive to get them to stop spamming my sidebar with his bs. Offensive is in the eye of the beholder.

147 Gus  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:55:21pm

re: #143 Targetpractice

It's a bit of a trap though. You know. Using a recently deceased international hero to press a negative. One must tread carefully.

148 Lidane  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:55:47pm

re: #115 dragonath

If Democrats get to request random actors, I'd like to nominate George Takei

I agree with Patton Oswalt:

149 CriticalDragon1177  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:56:44pm

re: #145 Dancing along the light of day

Why do you think that is wrong?

Becouse its helping to promote a bigoted agenda. Would you take money from white supremacists to run an add promoting their agenda? What about money from Nazis to run an add promoting the Zionist Occupation Government conspiracy theory?

150 Mich-again  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:57:53pm

Hey Mitt, they're not laughing with you, they're laughing at you.

151 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 11:02:17pm

re: #149 CriticalDragon1177

IIRC, it is keyword driven. Would you donate, just because an ad popped up here? You can subscribe to an ad free LGF for $10 a month, if that would please you!

152 Destro  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 11:03:06pm

re: #96 Lidane

Nah, it's all part of the same victim blaming that women deal with when it comes to rape. The typical line of bullshit is that men are hardwired for sex anytime, anywhere, with any woman they can get it from and they have no control over their impulses, so what a woman wears, says, and drinks makes a difference. He's just a mindless brute, so how the hell is he supposed to know she meant no? It's the usual excuse for claiming that date rape doesn't exist.

Same thing here, only this asshole is applying it to priests molesting kids, which is a whole new level of fucked up.

You also missed the part where he says men having sex with boys is not gay only man on man sex is gay.

153 dragonath  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 11:03:14pm

And to think, imagine if Trump hadn't been canceled.

154 Lidane  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 11:04:05pm
155 Destro  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 11:04:53pm

re: #109 OhNoZombies!

The RNC convention going first is a plus for the DNC, I think.
Obama's speech-fu should knock it out of the ballpark.

Obama apparently also has invisibility powers.

156 Targetpractice  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 11:05:26pm

re: #147 Gus

It's a bit of a trap though. You know. Using a recently deceased international hero to press a negative. One must tread carefully.

I know. It's like bringing up Steve Jobs and talking about how he was fired from Apple, hired back, and brought them untold riches. The reality is that Jobs wasn't fired, he quit. And only after he'd tried to have the CEO he'd lured to run Apple thrown out because the two of them didn't agree, said CEO called a board meeting to discuss Jobs' attempted coup, and the board chose to remove Jobs from a management position. Likewise, while Apple has had success since Jobs came back, somebody should ask Mitt what "NeXT Computer" was and how successful it was under Jobs' leadership.

157 Gus  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 11:05:30pm

re: #153 dragonath

And to think, imagine if Trump hadn't been canceled.

Maybe they did it because of the birther shit.

158 Destro  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 11:06:07pm

re: #114 Gus

The best patriot is the critical one.

159 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 11:06:47pm

THE LIBS ARE GOING FOR THE CLINT EASTWOOD DISTRACTION BECAUSE THEY ARE TERRIFIED OF HOW MITT JUST KNOCKED IT OUT OF THE PARK

Image: EZQHC.jpg

160 moderatelyradicalliberal  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 11:07:22pm

I heard Clint stayed after everyone left the convention hall to curse out all of the empty chairs.

161 Targetpractice  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 11:07:34pm

re: #153 dragonath

And to think, imagine if Trump hadn't been canceled.

I sorta found myself wondering earlier if the empty slot that Clint ended up filling was originally supposed to be Trump's. It really doesn't seem like Clint had much time to practice his whole speech. One of the Freepers said that he'd heard that Clint's teleprompter failed on him, but that makes his performance even more depressing. This guy's an accomplished actor with decades of work under his belt, and he couldn't remember his lines?

162 Gus  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 11:07:49pm

re: #159 What Would Spalding Gray Do?

Image: EZQHC.jpg

That's pretty funny. That is true. Clint Eastwood, and a stool, upstaged Mitt Romney.

163 moderatelyradicalliberal  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 11:08:51pm

re: #161 Targetpractice

I sorta found myself wondering earlier if the empty slot that Clint ended up filling was originally supposed to be Trump's. It really doesn't seem like Clint had much time to practice his whole speech. One of the Freepers said that he'd heard that Clint's teleprompter failed on him, but that makes his performance even more depressing. This guy's an accomplished actor with decades of work under his belt, and he couldn't remember his lines?

He's 82. This was elder abuse. But then again, an angry, rich old white man yelling at an empty chair is the perfect symbol for the GOP.

164 Lidane  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 11:09:04pm
165 Gus  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 11:10:43pm

Go fuck yourself!
-- Clint Eastwood 8/31/2012

166 Gus  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 11:12:22pm

re: #164 Lidane

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Of course. For many people it will be terrific. Why are we surprised? Nearly half of America is composed of young Earth creationists.

167 Lidane  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 11:14:18pm
168 dragonath  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 11:17:41pm

re: #161 Targetpractice

And now it's coming out that Eastwood screwed up the schedule for the rest of the night.

I think it's delicious that they made the convention so much about Obama, and he upstages them in absentia. I suppose we were supposed to fear the Mighty Mitt Machine in the morning, but I'm feeling much better about the election than I have in a while.

169 Targetpractice  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 11:18:27pm

Think what really sticks out isn't Clint's speech so much as his delivery. His speech, at least read in transcript form, wasn't anything magical but it fit with the whole point of the night, namely bashing an imaginary construct filling in for Obama. A younger actor might have been able to do it a bit more justice, perhaps even come off as somewhat humorous. But Clint seemed to be trying to play a comedian when he's known primarily for serious, tough-as-nails characters and it just didn't really work.

170 Gus  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 11:19:36pm

So I guess Afghanistan war jokes are OK now?

171 AK-47%  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 11:19:55pm

My grandma used to go to the cemetery and argue with grandpa's tombstone...

172 Targetpractice  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 11:21:00pm

re: #170 Gus

So I guess Afghanistan war jokes are OK now?

I guess when they're the only mention of Afghanistan for the entire night, they are. Seriously, here was Clint giving the Invisible Man the third degree about not having troops out of Afghanistan yet, and then Mitt comes on and starts talking war with half the fucking globe.

173 Lidane  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 11:22:29pm

re: #168 dragonath

Mitt got upstaged by an empty chair. That's got to suck.

His campaign team has to be spitting nails right now. The big news, especially after Team Obama's tweet in response, is about Clint Eastwood yelling at a chair. This was supposed to be Mitt's big night, but he's losing to a piece of furniture.

174 Targetpractice  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 11:23:56pm

re: #173 Lidane

Mitt got upstaged by an empty chair. That's got to suck.

His campaign team has to be spitting nails right now. The big news, especially after Team Obama's tweet in response, is about Clint Eastwood yelling at a chair. This was supposed to be Mitt's big night, but he's losing to a piece of furniture.

The media's already in damage control mode, trying to salvage something of the night by portraying Mitt's speech as something that will appeal to disillusioned Obama voters by calling on them to help him fix the things Obama "wouldn't."

I'm presently unsure whether those pushing such a thought truly are that deluded or just on some very strong drugs.

175 Lidane  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 11:25:25pm

re: #174 Targetpractice

I'm presently unsure whether those pushing such a thought truly are that deluded or just on some very strong drugs.

My guess? Lots of booze. They chose to drink every time God was invoked tonight.

176 Varek Raith  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 11:25:35pm

Did Romney lose to an empty chair?
Rofl.

177 Lidane  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 11:26:25pm

re: #176 Varek Raith

Did Romney lose to an empty chair?
Rofl.

If Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram are anything to go by, yes.

178 dragonath  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 11:27:02pm
Youtube Video
179 Lidane  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 11:28:19pm

re: #178 dragonath

Youtube Video
180 AK-47%  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 11:28:28pm

re: #178 dragonath

I talk to the furniture

181 Gus  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 11:28:30pm

Republicans are like a highly dysfunctional family.

182 Gus  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 11:29:34pm

THOSE PEOPLE MOVED IN NEXT DOOR!

183 Gus  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 11:29:51pm

It's OK Archie. Calm down man.

184 Targetpractice  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 11:30:26pm

re: #175 Lidane

My guess? Lots of booze. They chose to drink every time God was invoked tonight.

At this point, I wouldn't be surprised. It sounds less like a prediction and more like hope, namely that Romney not totally futzing up his delivery of the speech is enough to convince people who might have tuned in that he can deliver on any of the empty promises he made.

185 boredtechindenver  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 11:30:41pm

re: #156 Targetpractice

Likewise, while Apple has had success since Jobs came back, somebody should ask Mitt what "NeXT Computer" was and how successful it was under Jobs' leadership.

Also, NeXt computers and NeXTStep (Openstep)were heavily used by US government agencies, as well as to develop the World Wide Web by Berners-Lee at CERN (a joint European governmental agency). Also, Doom and Quake were developed on NeXT computers.

186 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 11:30:44pm

re: #167 Lidane

Not really related: Damon Lindelof can suck a barrel of rarely-washed truck driver dicks as far as I'm concerned. "Lost" was the best thing to happen on network television since The [original] Twilight Zone, and then they spent the last season setting up the OH HA HA LOL IT WAS JUST A DREAM THE WHOLE TIME, THEY ALL DIED IN THE PILOT BUT HEY AFTERLIFE.

So, fuck that guy.

187 RemainCalm  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 11:31:00pm

Who would have been better than Clint Eastwood as tonight’s Surprise Mystery Guest at the Republican National Convention?
A) President George H.W. (not just W) Bush
B) Dick Cheney’s lesbian daughter
C) Todd Palin and the Dancin’ Palinettes
D) Zombie Reagan
E) Other right-wing furniture weirdness

188 Lidane  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 11:33:24pm

re: #186 What Would Spalding Gray Do?

I never got into Lost but I knew a lot of folks who did and they were pissed at the ending. But hey-- at least they weren't in a snowglobe the whole time.

189 Lidane  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 11:34:05pm
190 freetoken  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 11:35:13pm

re: #187 RemainCalm

C) Todd Palin and the Dancin’ Palinettes

Speaking of which, I think the only hope for the Palins, if Fox chooses to not renew Sarah's contract, would be for Bristol to hook up with Rob Kardashian. That would be a lifeline for the Palin Reality TV enterprise.

191 Targetpractice  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 11:37:06pm

re: #185 boredtechindenver

Also, NeXt computers and NeXTStep (Openstep)were heavily used by US government agencies, as well as to develop the World Wide Web by Berners-Lee at CERN (a joint European governmental agency). Also, Doom and Quake were developed on NeXT computers.

The problem wasn't the hardware or software, the problem was that both were so pricey that they were a commercial failure. That's why Apple was able to buy them out and use both as the base for Mac OS X.

192 Targetpractice  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 11:39:33pm

Yegods, it's almost 3EST and I've gotta be up in a few hours to make the drive to D.C. Crap. Well, I guess I'll try to jump back on before I head out, otherwise I probably won't be online much between now and Monday night.

Later ya'll.

193 dragonath  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 11:40:38pm

re: #187 RemainCalm

They would have been better off if they got Bob Barker to do his Price Is Right routine and had the old people guess Mitt Romney's total worth.

194 Varek Raith  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 11:45:32pm

re: #192 Targetpractice

Yegods, it's almost 3EST and I've gotta be up in a few hours to make the drive to D.C. Crap. Well, I guess I'll try to jump back on before I head out, otherwise I probably won't be online much between now and Monday night.

Later ya'll.

Va Beach to DC?
Fun drive.
Especially 64. Bump bump bump bump.
Hate that road.

195 engineer cat  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 12:02:00am

"hey mon doan geev me dat bool-sheet! - you are Lyin' like Ryan, d00d"

196 smirking  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 12:03:21am

re: #135 Dancing along the light of day

I don't want those ads blocked. I click on them every chance I get to cost those bozos money and help people I like earn a bit more. Once you start clicking on any of those ads, the ad network starts pegging you as someone who's of a certain persuasion to respond to wingnut ads and so you'll see more and more of them.

Of course, you'd better be prepared to be pegged as a wingnut forever. To this day anytime a Michelle Bachman ad is released, it shows up immediately on the next site I travel to. I roll my eyes, click, and laugh.

197 Gus  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 12:05:38am
198 AK-47%  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 12:07:33am

"Lyin' like Ryan"...now there's an albatross to hang on that campaign.

And hey, he built it himself!

199 Kragar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 12:08:45am

re: #198 Expand Your Ground

"Lyin' like Ryan"...now there's an albatross to hang on that campaign.

And hey, he built it himself!

Lyin like Ryan and Full o' shit like Mitt

200 AK-47%  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 12:09:40am

Actually "You're full of Mitt" is probably sufficient in itself...

201 freetoken  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 12:14:42am

re: #197 Gus

Country Music's Fake Patriotism Music

"Country music" today is a parody of the real country music earlier in the 20th century:

MP3 Audio
202 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 12:15:36am

Caution, meme developing.

My quick and dirty photoshop, feel free to steal.

203 Varek Raith  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 12:18:23am

re: #202 goddamnedfrank

Caution, meme developing.

My quick and dirty photoshop, feel free to steal.

" I'm going to get Dirty Harry on that chair!"
-Clint

...
..
.

204 AK-47%  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 12:18:28am

re: #197 Gus

Country Music's Fake Patriotism

And fake morality: I recall the ex-wife bringing home Toby Keith's CD "White Trash with Money", which contained a song called "There's No Right Way to do The Wrong Thing", an ode to moral absolutism, and which was dedicated to his "Lord and Savior, Jesus".
The last track on the album, "Running Block", was about screwing drunk fat chicks in a motel room.

Jesus loves, ya, Toby.

205 Lidane  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 12:19:30am

re: #202 goddamnedfrank

Caution, meme developing.

My quick and dirty photoshop, feel free to steal.

Another meme:

206 sagehen  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 12:19:37am

re: #137 Gus

Sometimes you will hear music and think it's the most awful thing you've heard. Not understanding how anyone can like it. Yet then find out that the music has over 200,000,000 fans around the world.

Celine Dion?

207 freetoken  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 12:30:36am

So, what was Clint doing at the Republican convention?

Why... adding glamour!

Clint Eastwood Adds Glamour to Republican Convention

208 boredtechindenver  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 12:32:45am

re: #203 Varek Raith

" I'm going to get Dirty Harry on that chair!"
-Clint

...
..
.

That sounds so, so, so nasty.

209 Citizen Bob  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 12:32:52am

re: #169 Targetpractice

Think what really sticks out isn't Clint's speech so much as his delivery. His speech, at least read in transcript form, wasn't anything magical but it fit with the whole point of the night, namely bashing an imaginary construct filling in for Obama.

The whole point of the Republican party is to bash an imaginary construct filling in for Obama. They've gone beyond anything resembling public service into the fantasy realm where the President is the boogieman of their nightmares, responsible for every single thing that makes them unhappy.

Clint's actual support for Rmoney was the thinnest gruel he could get away with. He did, however, support bringing troops home from Afghanistan, mentioned student debt and Libertarians, painted a glowing memory of Obama's inauguration, and reminded us politicians are our employees. He swam in the crazy river, where the GOP is, then he came back out.

210 Varek Raith  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 12:33:22am

re: #208 boredtechindenver

That sounds so, so, so nasty.

Indeed.

211 freetoken  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 12:36:32am

re: #209 Citizen Bob

Downstairs, SFZ used the term "performance art" in response to my proposal that Eastwood's presentation had some merit.

I think the whole thing is a bit of a Rorschach test.

212 AK-47%  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 12:42:23am

re: #209 Citizen Bob

The whole point of the Republican party is to bash an imaginary construct filling in for Obama.

What else can Romney run on? His tenure as Governor of Massachusetts? His track record with Bain Capital? The Ryan budget? The GOP platform with its antedeluvian social policies?

All he has left to run on is fear and loathing of Obama.

213 AK-47%  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 12:43:01am

re: #211 freetoken

Downstairs, SFZ used the term "performance art" in response to my proposal that Eastwood's presentation had some merit.

I think the whole thing is a bit of a Rorschach test.

Those are the best performances - the ones that let each memeber of the audience fill in the blanks.

214 freetoken  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 12:50:50am

Romney: I'd cut PBS, Obamacare, arts subsidies

Asked for specifics, Romney listed "the subsidy for PBS, the subsidy for Amtrak, the subsidy for the National Endowment for the Arts" and "the subsidy for the National Endowment for the Humanities."

At least the interviewer pointed out that these are "pretty small bore". In response Romney just diverted to another item.

215 Lidane  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 12:52:03am

re: #209 Citizen Bob

The whole point of the Republican party is to bash an imaginary construct filling in for Obama. They've gone beyond anything resembling public service into the fantasy realm where the President is the boogieman of their nightmares, responsible for every single thing that makes them unhappy.

Yep. The GOP is the living embodiment of Old Man Yells At Clouds, except they yell at an imaginary, invisible Obama.

If that's the only takeaway from the RNC, it will be a powerful one.

216 Pawn of the Oppressor  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 12:54:02am

re: #143 Targetpractice

And for a convention whose theme is "We Built It!" and a disdain for government help, bringing up Neil Armstrong is rather humorous.

- His father was an auditor for the state of Ohio.
- Neil received his K-12 education in public schools.
- He got his B.A. in Aeronautical Engineering from Purdue University, a public college.
- He paid for his college education by using the Holloway Program, which meant the government picked up the tab in exchange for service in the Navy.
- He was a decorated Navy combat pilot who flew in the Korean War.
- He was a test pilot for the NACA, the predecessor to NASA, as a test pilot for high speed research.
- He was selected to be an astronaut by the Air Force and was trained for the program by them.

I think we can all be very impressed by the success of the private sector in putting the first man on the Moon.///

And the rocket that got them there was largely engineered by Germans that the U.S. government policed up from the battlefields of WW2... And of course, the administration of the program and the and executive directive to go in the first place all came from *shock* the gubmint.

217 Pawn of the Oppressor  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 12:56:30am

re: #214 freetoken

Romney: I'd cut PBS, Obamacare, arts subsidies

At least the interviewer pointed out that these are "pretty small bore". In response Romney just diverted to another item.

Aw, geez, not this "PBS and NEA" shit again. Yeah, those fucking artists and public television types, wrecking our national budget... I hadn't heard that one in a while. Reaching into the early 1990's bag of tricks, I guess? That's a pretty dusty meme for him to drag out.

218 AK-47%  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 12:57:09am

re: #216 Pawn of the Oppressor

And the rocket that got them there was largely engineered by Germans that the U.S. government policed up from the battlefields of WW2... And of course, the administration of the program and the and executive directive to go in the first place all came from *shock* the gubmint.

Practical science, in the Golden Age of American inventors, was largely individuals and small corporations finding commercial applications for already-discovered scientific priniples.

But we came to find out the hard way that research into things like theoretical physics and space exploration is a collective undertaking, one that requires a government to back and finance it.

219 Lidane  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 1:00:21am

re: #217 Pawn of the Oppressor

Reaching into the early 1990's bag of tricks, I guess? That's a pretty dusty meme for him to drag out.

It's all they have. The Republican party has no fucking clue how to exist in a post-Cold War world. All their ideas are old and outdated and irrelevant.

220 researchok  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 1:02:25am

Morning, all

221 freetoken  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 1:04:25am

re: #217 Pawn of the Oppressor

Aw, geez, not this "PBS and NEA" shit again.

Yes, again.

Romney really, really needs to get the reactionary right to turn out and vote for him.

222 AK-47%  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 1:04:48am

re: #214 freetoken

Romney: I'd cut PBS, Obamacare, arts subsidies

At least the interviewer pointed out that these are "pretty small bore". In response Romney just diverted to another item.

In an ideal world, I would like to see our society reach the point where artists and performers did not need subsidies, where the economic and creative climate would promote and encourage artists without government assistance.

But until then, I have very little problem with PBS or limited subsidies to museums and performing arts.

223 freetoken  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 1:06:50am

re: #222 Expand Your Ground

In an ideal world, I would like to see our society reach the point where artists and performers did not need subsidies, the economic and crative climate would promote and encourage artists without government assistance.

Well, Hank Williams Jr. doesn't need no stinkin' subsidies, so why should PBS?

Are you a communist or something?

224 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 1:09:29am

My money says Eastwood's empty chair was a slightly more diplomatic trade-in for Trump's Obama impersonator.

225 ozbloke  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 1:11:29am

re: #224 The Ghost of a Flea

My money says Eastwood's empty chair was a slightly more diplomatic trade-in for Trump's Obama impersonator.

Trump wouldn't work for minimum wages...

226 AK-47%  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 1:21:33am

re: #223 freetoken

Well, Hank Williams Jr. doesn't need no stinkin' subsidies, so why should PBS?

Are you a communist or something?

I used to live and work as a profesional musician in and around Flagstaff, Arizona, playing commercial C&W (including Hank Sr and Jr) four nights a week so I could afford to play "creative" stuff on other nights.

And aside from playing the occasional gig at the Northern Arizona University, I got by without any form of subsidies. I would like to see it possible for more artists to get by like that.

227 researchok  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 1:26:22am

re: #201 freetoken

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228 AK-47%  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 1:29:12am

re: #227 researchok

The mother lode:

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229 researchok  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 1:34:55am

re: #228 Expand Your Ground

Yup- home run

Try these:

Youtube Video

And this heart breaker

Youtube Video
230 AK-47%  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 1:35:34am

re: #229 researchok

Yup- home run

Try these:

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Was just about to post the latter...

231 researchok  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 1:36:48am

re: #230 Expand Your Ground

Great minds and all that...

Blame FT...now I'm obsessing over the old stuff...

232 researchok  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 1:44:46am

Newer, but faithful to earlier days.

Youtube Video

Great, great lyrics

233 AK-47%  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 1:50:38am

I used to have a game with the DJ at the AFN station in Frankfurt: I would call in and request a classic rock song, at which point the DJ would say, "sorry, that's not in my format, I only play 80's and 90's material", at which point I would then request the modern cover version of the same song. Went on like that for weeks...

234 Kragar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 2:39:34am

One of the best metal instrumentals on the 90s, this was off of Anthrax's best album "Persistence of Time". My brother and I said if we ever made a sci-fi movie, this was going to be part of the theme.

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235 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 2:48:47am

Morning Honcos.

236 Kragar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 2:49:18am

re: #233 Expand Your Ground

I used to have a game with the DJ at the AFN station in Frankfurt: I would call in and request a classic rock song, at which point the DJ would say, "sorry, that's not in my format, I only play 80's and 90's material", at which point I would then request the modern cover version of the same song. Went on like that for weeks...

Cover versions eh?

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237 simoom  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 2:49:23am

To some extent, the Romney folks are lucky that Eastwood's performance is being viewed mostly with bemusement and pity, as it makes it more likely the whole throat slicing thing, in front of a viewing audience of millions, will be overlooked:

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238 Kragar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 2:53:33am

And I just realized I've been working on some projects all night, its 3 am and I've got work in the morning, crap.

Night

239 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 3:27:07am

Report: Man falls to death at Texans game
The 45-year-old fan allegedly was trying to slide down the outside of the handrail, according to the report, when he fell and landed on the pavement three stories below.
CBS Houston reported the man, whose identity is unknown, was rushed to Memorial Hermann Southwest and pronounced dead on arrival. The station cited sources in saying the fan was under the influence of alcohol.
[Link: aol.sportingnews.com...]
Color me shocked.

240 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 3:34:51am

Report: Drunk 'Tan Mom' tossed from drag-queen show
Read more: [Link: www.myfoxny.com...]
Was Thursday a special drinking night? I didn't get the memo.

241 Decatur Deb  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 3:39:53am

re: #226 Expand Your Ground

I used to live and work as a profesional musician in and around Flagstaff, Arizona, playing commercial C&W (including Hank Sr and Jr) four nights a week so I could afford to play "creative" stuff on other nights.

And aside from playing the occasional gig at the Northern Arizona University, I got by without any form of subsidies. I would like to see it possible for more artists to get by like that.

Without subsidy, Madonna becomes a millionaire and the B Minor Mass costs $400 a seat. Leonardo Fukn' DaVinci lived on subsidies.

242 Decatur Deb  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 3:47:13am

Nate Silver word-clouds the Romney speech.

[Link: fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com...]

243 AK-47%  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 3:47:26am

re: #241 Decatur Deb

Without subsidy, Madonna becomes a millionaire and the B Minor Mass costs $400 a seat. Leonardo Fukn' DaVinci lived on subsidies.

And the City of Frankfurt subsidizes each opera ticket to the amount of around $50 per seat. I once wrote to them and told them that if they just sent me $25, I would cancel my annual opera visit, thus saving them $25.

I even got a nicely worded letter back explaining how that was not possible and why...and somebody on the city payroll got paid to write and send it!

244 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 3:50:12am

re: #243 Expand Your Ground

And the City of Frankfurt subsidizes each opera ticket to the amount of around $50 per seat. I once wrote to them and told them that if they just sent me $25, I would cancel my annual opera visit, thus saving them $25.

I even got a nicely worded letter back explaining how that was not possible and why...and somebody on the city payroll got paid to write and send it!

So buy the $50 seat and scalp it.:)

245 Decatur Deb  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 3:50:37am

re: #243 Expand Your Ground

And the City of Frankfurt subsidizes each opera ticket to the amount of around $50 per seat. I once wrote to them and told them that if they just sent me $25, I would cancel my annual opera visit, thus saving them $25.

I even got a nicely worded letter back explaining how that was not possible and why...and somebody on the city payroll got paid to write and send it!

Our town subsidizes the hell out of regional golf, tennis and softball. We make a fortune from it.

(Worked in Frankfurt, the IG Farben building--rather be there than here.)

246 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 4:10:00am

I wonder if these people prayed to get some funding.
/
[Link: connecticut.cbslocal.com...]

247 Decatur Deb  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 4:14:44am

re: #246 Cannadian Club Akbar

I wonder if these people prayed to get some funding.
/
[Link: connecticut.cbslocal.com...]

Just cursing their fate.

248 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 4:20:37am

re: #247 Decatur Deb

Just cursing their fate.

I used to see fliers for "Psychic Fairs". I would think they would all just know where to show up.
/

249 Sheila Broflovski  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 4:21:20am

re: #241 Decatur Deb

Without subsidy, Madonna becomes a millionaire and the B Minor Mass costs $400 a seat. Leonardo Fukn' DaVinci lived on subsidies.

All those great artists, Michelangelo, Bach, Vermeer, Van Dyck, Rembrandt, Mozart had to get themselves wealthy patrons.

250 AK-47%  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 4:26:45am

re: #249 Learned Mother of Zion

All those great artists, Michelangelo, Bach, Vermeer, Van Dyck, Rembrandt, Mozart had to get themselves wealthy patrons.

And where did the wealthy patrons get their money? From fleecing the poor...

251 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 4:28:54am

re: #250 Expand Your Ground

And where did the wealthy patrons get their money? From fleecing the poor...

I'm sure they bought small, unprofitable villages and broke them up, sending all the jobs to Mongolia.
/

252 AK-47%  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 4:29:39am

Gotta give those old bastards credit, they did at least think in terms of sustainable exploitation...

253 Sheila Broflovski  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 4:30:05am

re: #250 Expand Your Ground

And where did the wealthy patrons get their money? From fleecing the poor...

Michelangelo's and Bach's patron was the Church.

254 Sheila Broflovski  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 4:32:34am

I'm driving up to Toronto for the weekend. Will probably not have Internets up there in the wilds of Canada.

255 AK-47%  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 4:34:25am

re: #253 Learned Mother of Zion

Michelangelo's and Bach's patron was the Church.

I rest my case

256 Decatur Deb  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 4:35:51am

re: #250 Expand Your Ground

And where did the wealthy patrons get their money? From fleecing the poor...

So we are left trying to create social justice without limiting ourselves to pop art. Much as I like mountain music, I don't want to loose Allegri.

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257 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 4:36:56am

Whether or not he is 128, the clearly on-in-years Kenyan, who can still walk and do certain chores, has a dilemma. He explained to Kenyan station NTV (video above) that he cannot afford to pay for medical care, and must rely for now on his 89-year-old wife's insurance. The family told the Nation he needs unspecified medication.
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]
I'm posting this, not because of the healthcare argument, but because this guy is practically Hugh Hefner!!!

259 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 5:04:38am

re: #258 Learned Mother of Zion

Another shooting, at a supermarket in NJ.

3 dean, including gunman. (7:45 update)

260 Sheila Broflovski  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 5:05:20am

re: #217 Pawn of the Oppressor

Aw, geez, not this "PBS and NEA" shit again. Yeah, those fucking artists and public television types, wrecking our national budget... I hadn't heard that one in a while. Reaching into the early 1990's bag of tricks, I guess? That's a pretty dusty meme for him to drag out.

And also, what % of the national budget goes to support the arts? It's probably less money than Mitt Romney makes in two days.

261 Obdicut  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 5:09:50am

re: #260 Learned Mother of Zion

And also, what % of the national budget goes to support the arts? It's probably less money than Mitt Romney makes in two days.

Hard to say. Support for the arts and museums is 0.066% of the national budget. That means it's about $2.6 billion. The amount of that that's actual subsidies for art, I can't tell you. A lot of that is for the museums.

262 Targetpractice  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 5:11:19am

Ugh, what's that big, bright thing up in the sky?

263 Decatur Deb  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 5:13:00am

re: #261 Obdicut

Hard to say. Support for the arts and museums is 0.066% of the national budget. Which is 2.6 billion. That's $2.5 billion. The amount of that that's actual subsidies for art, I can't tell you. A lot of that is for the museums.

Can't have museums. Museums make you think of the past, and then you remember you've heard this bullshit somewhere before.

264 Sheila Broflovski  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 5:14:06am

re: #261 Obdicut

Hard to say. Support for the arts and museums is 0.066% of the national budget. That means it's about $2.6 billion. The amount of that that's actual subsidies for art, I can't tell you. A lot of that is for the museums.

I remember from when I used to go on Free Republic back in the day, they just couldn't stop talking about some "performance artist" who got a grant from NEA to cover her naked body with chocolate and bean sprouts. FReepers fantasized about that a lot, but I was just like all ewww.

265 Obdicut  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 5:15:30am

re: #264 Learned Mother of Zion

I don't like bean sprouts. Pea shoots are nice, and I've even had chocolate covered pea sprouts at my friend Jacob's "Cover everything in chocolate" party, for which I don't think he received federal funding but you never know.

266 Decatur Deb  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 5:18:09am

The 'New Comments' features have been weird lately. Is Charles tinkering in the basement again?

267 Sheila Broflovski  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 5:32:22am

Speaking of EWWWW

268 teresa  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 5:33:07am

I know what he was doing, I am sure of it, he was channeling Neil Diamond!
"I am," I said
To no one there
An no one heard at all
Not even the chair"
I mean... there is no other explanation, seriously.
It was too weird, I am sorry that Eastwood has descended into idiocy.

269 Sheila Broflovski  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 5:34:04am
270 Obdicut  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 5:42:28am

re: #269 Learned Mother of Zion

I hope I don't be called dumb.

271 Kronocide  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 5:45:03am

I was listening to Eastwood's comments on the radio, had no idea who it was.

I was thinking WTF is this guy, this is strained and weird.

272 darthstar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 5:55:36am

re: #269 Learned Mother of Zion

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I just reported her. Fucking bigot.

273 Shropshire_Slasher  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 5:56:53am

Old republicans never die, they just look and smell that way.
Last full day on vacation in Myrtle Beach :(
Good morning y'all!

274 Tigger2005  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 5:59:19am

Very disappointed in Eastwood for agreeing to this. He always struck me as a no-bullshit kinda guy, and he's spoken out against the anti-gay marriage crusaders. I thought he would be able to see right through the GOP-Tea Party's current crap. I hope he's not turning into another Charlton Heston who started out marching for civil rights before becoming an NRA shill. Or worse...that other Chuck...

275 Shropshire_Slasher  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 5:59:31am

re: #266 Decatur Deb

Never mind the man behind the curtain!
If you do happen to read this Charles, when I click "jump to bottom" tab it sends me back to the home page.

276 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 5:59:43am

re: #273 Tommy's cone of shame

Old republicans never die, they just look and smell that way.
Last full day on vacation in Myrtle Beach :(
Good morning y'all!

[Link: www.visitmyrtlebeach.com...]

277 darthstar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 5:59:43am

Mornin' everyone. I'll bet Mitt Romney has the first hangover of his life, and not from alcohol. Can you imagine, spending nearly a decade trying to be the Republican nominee...pandering to every extremist in your party, selling your principles to anyone who will buy them, embracing bigots like Limbaugh, Fischer...and on the night you finally make it, you finally reach that goal, your night...you get upstaged by an empty chair, and that's all anyone wants to talk about.

Sometimes, life isn't fair, and other times, like now, it's beautifully ironic.

278 Kronocide  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:00:49am

Wow. Can't explain that.

279 darthstar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:01:10am
280 Decatur Deb  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:02:13am

re: #278 Kronocide

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Wow. Can't explain that.

Is Liz Smith a "Liz Smith' Liz Smith, or just another Liz Smith?

281 Shropshire_Slasher  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:03:31am

re: #276 Cannadian Club Akbar

We noshed at Carolina Roadhouse, effing awesome.
Plus the kids got to annoy us with yelling "Roadhouse!"

282 Kronocide  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:04:40am

re: #280 Decatur Deb

Is Liz Smith a "Liz Smith' Liz smith, or just another Liz Smith?

Liz Smith was Liz Smith before Liz Smith was Liz Smith.

283 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:05:01am

re: #281 Tommy's cone of shame

We noshed at Carolina Roadhouse, effing awesome.
Plus the kids got to annoy us with yelling "Roadhouse!"

I was an AGM of a steakhouse called Roadhouse which was a rip off of Cody's Roadhouse based in Kentucky. Not kidding.

284 Tigger2005  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:05:18am

re: #278 Kronocide

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Wow. Can't explain that.

More hate, but without all that, you know, 50 million dead, and stuff.

285 Kronocide  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:07:04am
286 Sheila Broflovski  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:07:14am
287 Obdicut  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:07:53am

re: #278 Kronocide

She's just a garden-variety bigot.

Nothing special.

288 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:08:18am

re: #281 Tommy's cone of shame

We noshed at Carolina Roadhouse, effing awesome.
Plus the kids got to annoy us with yelling "Roadhouse!"

Heh. Roadhouse!!!

Youtube Video
289 Shropshire_Slasher  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:11:27am

re: #288 Cannadian Club Akbar

Dammn you, ya beat me!
Ok gotta shower, whose turn is it to warsh my back!?

290 Decatur Deb  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:11:51am

This is the oddest roadhouse I've seen, deep off the artillery ranges at Ft. Sill. It has a geological fault named after it, because there is nothing else around. Much of the interior is (was) recovered wood from artillery ammo crates.

[Link: www.meersstore.com...]

291 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:11:52am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. The ghost of Jimmy Stewart is #Harvey pissed off for Eastwood's #Eastwooding. Bob Newhart wants his skit back. And yet that performance overshadows everything that Mitt hoped to accomplish.

Years from now, what will people remember about this convention?

It will likely be Eastwood's performance.

292 Kronocide  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:12:04am
Finally, a word about Ryan. There’s a reason the so-called “fact-checkers” and other liberals have gone beserk about him. It’s quite simply this: He is the most impressive Republican politician since Reagan. Not just smart and well-informed, but also disarming, comfortable, and persuasive. Like a triathlete, he’s great at many things at once. As such, he delights us and scares the Hell out of them.

Mona Charen

293 dragonath  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:13:49am

The reaction to this "speech" has been pretty bizarre. Wingers seem to love it ...hey look, no teleprompter! News sites don't know how to run with it but ignore the insane ramblings and try to focus on the style. Twitter is going nuts.

294 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:15:08am

re: #290 Decatur Deb

Get thee to Wall Drug. And don't miss their maple sugar donuts and coffee.

295 Tigger2005  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:15:19am

Liz Smith-- @kybelle1957--a Kentucky belle born 1957, definitely fits the GOP base to a T. If she was from anywhere but the South she'd probably have to be at least 10-20 years older.

296 Tigger2005  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:16:40am

CLINT FOR PRESIDENT
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297 Decatur Deb  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:19:00am

re: #294 lawhawk

Get thee to Wall Drug. And don't miss their maple sugar donuts and coffee.

Heh. That's of the same order as the concrete tepee motel in KY. Never stayed there, lived too close.

[Link: www.wigwamvillage.com...]

298 Tigger2005  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:19:06am

re: #292 Kronocide

Mona Charen

He's great at one thing: lying convincingly.

299 Decatur Deb  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:20:03am

re: #295 Tigger2005

Liz Smith-- @kybelle1957--a Kentucky belle born 1957, definitely fits the GOP base to a T. If she was from anywhere but the South she'd probably have to be at least 10-20 years older.

255 followers.

300 darthstar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:20:54am

Yeah..I'd forgotten about them.

The talk of the night, instead, focused on Clint Eastwood and his empty chair. They were clearly the weirdest tandem of the evening, which is saying something when Newt and Callista are also on the bill.

[Link: blogs.ajc.com...]

301 Kronocide  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:21:12am

I'm not ready for another tsunami watch.

302 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:24:26am

re: #297 Decatur Deb

Heh. That's of the same order as the concrete tepee motel in KY. Never stayed there, lived too close.

[Link: www.wigwamvillage.com...]

Wow. That place has a pavilion with vending machines. Just like the Native Americans had.
/

303 Decatur Deb  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:25:43am

re: #302 Cannadian Club Akbar

Wow. That place has a pavilion with vending machines. Just like the Native Americans had.
/

Tradition--That's how they developed their passion for electronic slot machines.

304 darthstar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:26:39am

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305 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:27:09am

re: #303 Decatur Deb

Tradition--That's how they developed their passion for electronic slot machines.

I saw a Pepsi machine, an Aquafina water machine, a fire water machine....
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306 Kronocide  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:30:02am
307 Decatur Deb  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:30:18am

re: #305 Cannadian Club Akbar

I saw a Pepsi machine, an Aquafina water machine, a fire water machine....
/

If I ever have to go back to KY, I'll stop there with the grandkids.

308 darthstar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:31:11am

re: #297 Decatur Deb

Heh. That's of the same order as the concrete tepee motel in KY. Never stayed there, lived too close.

[Link: www.wigwamvillage.com...]

40 bucks a night! Holy crap! The Motel 6 in San Francisco is 125 and it doesn't have any of the aesthetic of the Wigwam. And definitely no rusty barbecue on the lawn...hell, it doesn't even have a lawn.

309 Shropshire_Slasher  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:31:47am

re: #301 Kronocide

[Link: earthquake.usgs.gov...]

310 Bulworth  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:32:40am
•Remarks by former Massachusetts Lt. Governor Kerry Healey
•Remarks by Jane Edmonds, former Massachusetts Secretary of Workforce

Huh? Romney lived in Massachusetts?

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311 Decatur Deb  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:33:16am

re: #308 darthstar

40 bucks a night! Holy crap! The Motel 6 in San Francisco is 125 and it doesn't have any of the aesthetic of the Wigwam. And definitely no rusty barbecue on the lawn...hell, it doesn't even have a lawn.

It's as close as you get to Mammoth Cave, which is about all the cave most families need.

312 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:34:10am

re: #308 darthstar

40 bucks a night! Holy crap! The Motel 6 in San Francisco is 125 and it doesn't have any of the aesthetic of the Wigwam. And definitely no rusty barbecue on the lawn...hell, it doesn't even have a lawn.

I went to see my shrink. I told him I keep having recurring dreams. I said, "I'm a teepee, I'm a wigwam. I'm a teepee, I'm a wigwam". He said, "That's your problem, you're two tents".
/Thanks, I'll be here all week. Tip your waitresses

313 Decatur Deb  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:34:24am

re: #309 Tommy's cone of shame

[Link: earthquake.usgs.gov...]

Am I reading 7.9?

314 wheat-dogg  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:34:25am

re: #311 Decatur Deb

It's as close as you get to Mammoth Cave, which is about all the cave most families need.

I know the Teepee place, but never stayed there. One of the kitschier places around Mammoth Cave.

315 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:35:08am

re: #292 Kronocide

Mona Charen

This is deja vu all over again. Right wing pundits said the same thing about Palin. And they will be saying the same thing about 2016's conservative flavor of the month. They need to stop looking for the next Reagan and realize that Reagan like the Democrats with FDR was one guy. That's not an attempt to disparage Reagan's memory by the way but to point out that looking for the next Reagan is as foolish as looking for the next Roosevelt for liberals.

316 Decatur Deb  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:35:48am

re: #314 wheatdogg

I know the Teepee place, but never stayed there. One of the kitschier places around Mammoth Cave.

Yeah, it was too sophisticated for us--we stayed at the Jellystone Park with Huckleberry Bear.

317 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:36:09am

re: #301 Kronocide

Stay safe. Warnings and watches posted throughout the Pacific following 7.6 quake near the Philippines. Watches for Hawaii, but warnings in vicinity of quake. No sign that one was spawned, which is good news.

318 wheat-dogg  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:36:25am

re: #292 Kronocide

Mona Charen

I wonder if Mona saw any starbursts while watching Ryan.

319 Shropshire_Slasher  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:36:40am

re: #313 Decatur Deb

Yuppers, but they may revise later.

320 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:36:47am

re: #313 Decatur Deb

Yes, you are.

321 darthstar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:37:20am

re: #306 Kronocide

322 Kronocide  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:38:49am

re: #313 Decatur Deb

Am I reading 7.9?

Yep, pretty big. This time if waves arrive it will be after lunchtime. Last time with Japan quake it was 3:30AM when they first hit, with the biggest at 5:30AM.

Just as I was about to post this, my government sponsored tsunami warning system sent me an email cancelling the tsunami watch. The earthquake is also downgraded to a 7.6.

323 wheat-dogg  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:38:51am

re: #316 Decatur Deb

I lived 30 years in Kentucky and never went to Mammoth Cave. My ex had been there three times and refused to go again. Then I moved away from Kentucky.

When I visit family in E-town next year, I should probably go, just to preserve my pride.

324 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:40:36am

re: #275 Tommy's cone of shame

Never mind the man behind the curtain!
If you do happen to read this Charles, when I click "jump to bottom" tab it sends me back to the home page.

It's been doing that to me for a few weeks. I just stopped using that button.
(running IE8 - and no I can't switch the browser to Firefox or something else)

325 Decatur Deb  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:40:53am

re: #323 wheatdogg

I lived 30 years in Kentucky and never went to Mammoth Cave. My ex had been there three times and refused to go again. Then I moved away from Kentucky.

When I visit family in E-town next year, I should probably go, just to preserve my pride.

Wife is a tanker kid from E-town. We met at the Knox parachute club in the '60s.

326 Kronocide  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:41:51am

Eastwood is the new Chairman of the GOP.

327 darthstar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:42:02am
328 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:42:29am

re: #323 wheatdogg

I've been to a couple of caves, but not Mammoth or Carlsbad Caverns.

Jewel and Wind Cave National Parks in SD and Howe Caverns in NY. Howe was interesting because I'd done it both as a kid and then as an adult - and when I went as an adult, we took the lantern tour - everyone walked along with a lantern - none of the usual lights were on. Very different experience.

329 darthstar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:42:40am

Here's the irony. Eastwood was actually staring at Romney's taxes sitting on that chair the whole time...

330 Shropshire_Slasher  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:46:06am

re: #324 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Ditto on IE8, it drives me nuts because I never learn!
Off to the beach, I will try not to accidentally moon anyone this time!
It was an accident honest!

331 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:46:29am

re: #327 darthstar

The biggest problem with Clint's performance - and I can't call it a speech - is that the buzz about that overshadows Romney's acceptance speech.

Everyone will remember the empty chair. Not Romney or his speech/vision.

332 GunstarGreen  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:47:29am

re: #125 Obdicut

Patriotism should inspire, not satisfy.

I could have been born on any patch of dirt on this rock. I had utterly no control over that. I have no particular attachment, emotional or otherwise, to this one. The country I live in (it is not "my" country any more than this is "my" Earth or "my" universe, it was here long before me and will be here long after) has done some great things. It has also done so horrible things. On balance, I would rather live here than anywhere else at this particular moment in time, but this is largely a matter of convenience as there are many comparable ones to live in if I chose.

My allegiance is to humanity, not to a patch of dirt. I am inspired by what people do, not by what arbitrary human-drawn border they happen to be standing in when they do it.

333 Obdicut  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:47:42am

re: #312 Cannadian Club Akbar

Wigwams aren't tents.

/spoilsport

334 Interesting Times  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:47:43am

re: #331 lawhawk

Everyone will remember the empty chair. Not Romney or his speech/vision.

In addition to tweet content, check out the person's avatar ;)

335 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:49:35am

Good morning lizards!

336 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:50:05am

re: #331 lawhawk

The biggest problem with Clint's performance - and I can't call it a speech - is that the buzz about that overshadows Romney's acceptance speech.

Everyone will remember the empty chair. Not Romney or his speech/vision.

Yep, last night was Romney's night to make an impression on the nation but instead empty chair jokes are going to be a meme for a while now.

337 wheat-dogg  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:52:11am

re: #328 lawhawk

I've visited several caves here in China. They like to light them up with gaudy colors.

Nine Dragons Cave, Tongren, Guizhou, China

338 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:55:37am

re: #337 wheatdogg

I've visited several caves here in China. They like to light them up with gaudy colors.

Nine Dragons Cave, Tongren, Guizhou, China

A hit of acid and a Yes album would make that place cool!!!
/

339 darthstar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:58:42am

re: #331 lawhawk

The biggest problem with Clint's performance - and I can't call it a speech - is that the buzz about that overshadows Romney's acceptance speech.

Everyone will remember the empty chair. Not Romney or his speech/vision.

Yep. Sucks to be Romney right now.

340 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:00:43am

re: #331 lawhawk

The biggest problem with Clint's performance - and I can't call it a speech - is that the buzz about that overshadows Romney's acceptance speech.

Everyone will remember the empty chair. Not Romney or his speech/vision.

I don't think so. I think it generated more interest in the last night of speeches and probably got more people to watch Mitt's speech than would have if Eastwood wasn't there.

341 wheat-dogg  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:00:47am

From BBC: Clint Eastwood speech bemuses fellow stars

"Apparently Clint Eastwood had an argument with an empty chair regarding its political standpoint," remarked Simon Pegg, another member of the current Trek crew.

"Maybe Clint is a sleeper agent for the Democrats sent in under deep cover to make the Republicans look stupid. No wait, that's Romney."

342 darthstar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:02:18am

Post-Eastwood reaction by Williams/Mitchell. Quick! Cut to a commercial before we pee ourselves!

Youtube Video
343 Kronocide  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:02:29am

re: #340 NJDhockeyfan

I don't think so. I think it generated more interest in the last night of speeches and probably got more people to watch Mitt's speech than would have if Eastwood wasn't there.

Generating the wrong kind of interest. That was bizarre.

344 Mich-again  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:02:36am

The chair overshadows two issues Clint brought up. Gitmo and Afghanistan. I'm not sure what the crowd was applauding about, Obama has essentially just extended Bush policy.

345 Interesting Times  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:03:38am

And in the "Don't forget Mitt Romney is a disgusting, sniveling excuse for a human" file:

346 Kronocide  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:04:15am
347 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:04:24am

The saddest part about the entire convention is that some new reality tv show - Honey Boo Boo beat out the convention converage on nearly all accounts. While the combined coverage beat out the newest in a long line of exploitation reality shows, the show beat out the individual networks, including Fox:

The fourth episode of "Honey Boo Boo" pulled in just shy of 3 million viewers at 10 p.m., according to Nielsen overnight ratings, growing 30 percent from last week's 2.3 million haul.
In the demo, "Honey Boo Boo" did even better. The half-hour series' showing among adults 18-49 bested all other cable outings for the night — coverage of the Republican National Convention, included — to pull a 1.3 rating.

Fox News gave the show its closest competition with a 1.2 adults rating in that same time period. On the broadcast networks,"Honey Boo Boo" bested ABC and CBS' demo showing for the RNC combined and topped NBC by two tenths of a point. Aggregate coverage of the RNC across networks obviously eclipsed "Honey Boo Boo" considerably.

That's truly a sad state of affairs for everyone -

348 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:06:19am

re: #340 NJDhockeyfan

Can you recall anything specific about Mitt's speech that would stick with you into the final weeks of campaigning? Yet everyone will know/remember the #Eastwooding performance.

349 Interesting Times  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:06:50am
350 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:06:52am

re: #344 Mich-again

The chair overshadows two issues Clint brought up. Gitmo and Afghanistan. I'm not sure what the crowd was applauding about, Obama has essentially just extended Bush policy.

They probably thought: Hey, it's Clint Eastwood, I like Clint Eastwood and he's criticizing Obama, I like that! But yeah I've read about Eastwood's views on war and they're not close to Mitt or Obama's for that matter either.

351 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:07:46am

re: #347 lawhawk

Honey Boo Boo? I never heard of that. It comes from not watching much TV.

352 darthstar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:08:08am

Image: 294392_10151004983247657_255283761_n.jpg

353 Mich-again  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:09:05am

re: #347 lawhawk

The saddest part about the entire convention is that some new reality tv show - Honey Boo Boo beat out the convention converage on nearly all accounts. While the combined coverage beat out the newest in a long line of exploitation reality shows, the show beat out the individual networks, including Fox:

That's truly a sad state of affairs for everyone -

I watched that show yesterday with my 15 yo daughter. Pretty stupid for sure, but people who think sub intelligent fat rednecks are funny to watch will like it.

354 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:10:23am

So, yesterday they give us the news that Jersey Shore is gone only to have another craptastic "reality" show in the works? Sigh, at least they're making some new Arrested Development episodes.

355 Kronocide  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:11:32am

Clint the Chair is Palin deja vu.

356 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:11:49am

re: #354 HappyWarrior

So, yesterday they give us the news that Jersey Shore is gone only to have another craptastic "reality" show in the works? Sigh, at least they're making some new Arrested Development episodes.

I have never seen that show. Not even 5 minutes of it.

357 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:13:09am

re: #356 NJDhockeyfan

I have never seen that show. Not even 5 minutes of it.

You didn't miss much. Spray tans and drunk jackasses.

358 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:14:06am

re: #354 HappyWarrior

So, yesterday they give us the news that Jersey Shore is gone only to have another craptastic "reality" show in the works? Sigh, at least they're making some new Arrested Development episodes.

Tonight on MTV: "Snooki's baby ends up in rehab". Hosted by the Octobrats and musical guest Jon and Kate's brats.

359 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:14:48am

re: #358 Cannadian Club Akbar

Tonight on MTV: "Snooki's baby ends up in rehab". Hosted by the Octobrats and musical guest Jon and Kate's brats.

MTV even though they brought back Beavis and Butthead still has a long way to go.

360 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:14:53am

re: #357 HappyWarrior

You didn't miss much. Spray tans and drunk jackasses.

And steroids. Don't forget the steroids.

361 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:15:47am

re: #359 HappyWarrior

MTV even though they brought back Beavis and Butthead still has a long way to go.

They should try music videos. I hear they were all the rage in 1982ish.

362 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:16:10am

re: #361 Cannadian Club Akbar

They should try music videos. I hear they were all the rage in 1982ish.

What's a music video? //

363 Mich-again  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:18:27am

It wasn't a coincidence the empty chair was on stage, that was Clint's prop. Which means the GOP suits running the big shew must have known beforehand what Clint had up his sleeve. "So, Mr. Eastwood, after the intro, you are going to have a conversation with an empty chair, kind of like Bob Newhart as the driving instructor? hmmm, who is this Bob Newhart guy? Is he from Fox News?

364 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:19:39am

re: #361 Cannadian Club Akbar

They should try music videos. I hear they were all the rage in 1982ish.

I remember those days. MTV actually stood for Music TeleVision. Not it stands for Moron TV.

365 Mocking Jay  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:20:23am

Paul Ryan's Speech in 3 Words is still the number three trending article on Fox News. I luv it.

366 GunstarGreen  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:20:34am

re: #361 Cannadian Club Akbar

They should try music videos. I hear they were all the rage in 1982ish.

Yeah, so what do they call themselves now, if not Music TeleVision?

Is it just "MTV", no longer being an acronym, or what? Bear in mind I've not seen even a moment of the channel for nearly 20 years.

367 Kronocide  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:20:58am

A tale of two tweets that came at the same time:

Lamestream media indeed. The fact is that the Fed isn't acting now.

368 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:23:53am

re: #366 GunstarGreen

Yeah, so what do they call themselves now, if not Music TeleVision?

Is it just "MTV", no longer being an acronym, or what? Bear in mind I've not seen even a moment of the channel for nearly 20 years.

If "Video Killed the Radio Star", what killed the videos?

369 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:23:59am

re: #363 Mich-again

It wasn't a coincidence the empty chair was on stage, that was Clint's prop. Which means the GOP suits running the big shew must have known beforehand what Clint had up his sleeve. "So, Mr. Eastwood, after the intro, you are going to have a conversation with an empty chair, kind of like Bob Newhart as the driving instructor? hmmm, who is this Bob Newhart guy? Is he from Fox News?

I'm still wondering how the whole thing came about exactly. Who approached who and who thought that this would make Clint look like anything other than a caricature.

370 Sionainn  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:24:12am

re: #352 darthstar

Image: 294392_10151004983247657_255283761_n.jpg

WTF?!? Is that from the convention? Someone really thinks that's clever?

371 Charleston Chew  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:24:21am

Props to the people who guessed the RNC mystery guest would be Donald Trump firing an impersonator of the President. I think that counts as the closest thing in the betting pool to Eastwood firing an empty chair.

I guess it was predictable. Conservatives have become addicted to arguments based entirely in fantasy and on fantasy.

372 Sheila Broflovski  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:26:14am

re: #368 Cannadian Club Akbar

If "Video Killed the Radio Star", what killed the videos?

Teh Internetz!

373 Mocking Jay  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:26:49am

re: #370 Sionainn

WTF?!? Is that from the convention? Someone really thinks that's clever?

I suspect it's a 'shop.

374 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:26:59am

Another day, another beheading by the Taliban. This time the victims are kids.

Two Afghan children beheaded in separate events

KABUL - An adolescent boy and a young girl have been beheaded in two separate incidents in Afghanistan, local officials and police said on Friday, in the latest brazen attacks that have raised fresh questions about a splintering Taliban.

A 12-year-old boy was kidnapped and killed in southern Kandahar province on Wednesday, his severed head placed near his body to send a warning to police, said provincial governor spokesman Jawid Faisal.

...Separately, a 6-year-old girl was beheaded in eastern Kapisa province on Thursday, said provincial police chief Abdul Hamed.

"We are not sure if she was beheaded by her family or the Taliban, but we know the Taliban control the area," Hamed said of the killing in Jalukhil village. He added that he could not send investigators to the area out of fears for their safety.

The murders follow the shooting or beheading of 17 young revelers attending a party in southern Helmand province this week, which officials said was the work of the Taliban, a charge the group also denied.

...In Kandahar's Zhari district, officials also said on Friday that a 16-year-old boy accused by the Taliban of spying for the government was beheaded and skinned in late July.

Gruesome indeed.

375 Kronocide  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:27:02am

Breaking:

DNC to have Obama 'debate' an empty suit.

376 Coracle  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:27:26am

re: #370 Sionainn

Photoshop.

377 Mich-again  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:27:53am

re: #364 NJDhockeyfan

I remember those days. MTV actually stood for Music TeleVision. Not it stands for Moron TV.

Yeah its "reality TV" now. A bunch of drop outs partying round the clock who don't even need to have a real job to earn money, the beer and chicks are free. That's not reality TV. If it was reality, the party dogs would be working fast food, hanging out at dumpy bars, living in their folk's basement and driving piece of shit cars.

378 Sionainn  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:28:37am

re: #373 Mocking Jay

I suspect it's a 'shop.

One can only hope.

379 Coracle  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:28:51am

re: #374 NJDhockeyfan

I think we need to get you your own right-side window for Greater Persian Atrocity of the Day.

380 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:29:35am

re: #379 Coracle

I think we need to get you your own right-side window for Greater Persion Atrocity of the Day.

You don't find that newsworthy?

381 Interesting Times  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:29:55am

re: #374 NJDhockeyfan

Perhaps you should let Romney know, because:

382 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:29:55am

re: #368 Cannadian Club Akbar

If "Video Killed the Radio Star", what killed the videos?

The videos!

(some of them were God awful,,,, most of the rest were worse!!!)

383 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:30:13am

re: #377 Mich-again

Yeah its "reality TV" now. A bunch of drop outs partying round the clock who don't even need to have a real job to earn money, the beer and chicks are free. That's not reality TV. If it was reality, the party dogs would be working fast food, hanging out at dumpy bars, living in their folk's basement and driving piece of shit cars.

It ain't "reality" if MTV is paying your bar tab and getting you babes. I'm also proud to say that I've never once used a spray tan or been to a tanning salon ever.

384 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:30:29am

re: #370 Sionainn

WTF?!? Is that from the convention? Someone really thinks that's clever?

{sigh}

385 Sionainn  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:31:30am

re: #384 sattv4u2

{sigh}

Why are you such an ass?

386 Mich-again  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:32:09am

Maybe the empty chair prop was already in the plans for Trump's speech and someone from the GOP gave that idea to Clint after the Donald was brushed aside.

387 Kronocide  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:32:10am

re: #380 NJDhockeyfan

You don't find that newsworthy?

Nope. Old white guy at RNC babbling at empty chair just before new candidate for presidency, newsworthy.

388 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:32:16am

re: #385 Sionainn

Why are you such an ass?

How is that being an "ass"?

389 Coracle  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:32:35am

re: #380 NJDhockeyfan

You don't find that newsworthy?

Sure. But it's not relevant. Not anymore than this mornings multiple fatality shooting in a New Jersey supermarket. You like keeping a tally of just how barbaric "they" are. You should have your own space to do so, is all I'm saying.

390 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:33:13am

re: #386 Mich-again

Maybe the empty chair prop was already in the plans for Trump's speech and someone from the GOP gave that idea to Clint after the Donald was brushed aside.

Ha, there's a theory.

391 Mocking Jay  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:33:56am

Exclusive: Inside Karl Rove's Billionaire Fundraiser

On the final morning of the Republican National Convention, Karl Rove took the stage at the Tampa Club to provide an exclusive breakfast briefing to about 70 of the Republican party’s highest-earning and most powerful donors. During the more than hour-long session, Rove explained to an audience dotted with hedge fund billionaires and investors—including John Paulson and Wilbur Ross—how his super PAC, American Crossroads, will persuade undecided voters in crucial swing states to vote against Barack Obama. He also detailed plans for Senate and House races, and joked, “We should sink Todd Akin. If he’s found mysteriously murdered, don’t look for my whereabouts!”

Ha! Now that's funny! What a joker!

392 Sionainn  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:34:10am

re: #388 sattv4u2

How is that being an "ass"?

What was with the "sigh"?

393 Kronocide  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:34:45am

re: #389 Coracle

You should have your own space to do so, is all I'm saying.

That's what Pages are for. But what you if Paged it and nobody came?

394 Coracle  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:35:21am

The Reps handed the Dems a killer 'optic', which I don't think they'll use. Have someone like Colbert come out in the DNC to lambaste the empty chair, and seat Obama there as he starts.

They won't do it, but it'd be hilarious.

395 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:35:30am

re: #392 Sionainn

What was with the "sigh"?

Exasperation, that you could believe that was an actual sign at a convention (or anywhere, for that matter)

396 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:35:52am

re: #393 Kronocide

That's what Pages are for. But what you if Paged it and nobody came?

It would be much like many others!

397 Sionainn  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:36:07am

re: #395 sattv4u2

Exasperation, that you could believe that was an actual sign at a convention (or anywhere, for that matter)

Exactly. Which is why I called you an ass.

398 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:36:17am

re: #394 Coracle

The Reps handed the Dems a killer 'optic', which I don't think they'll lose. Have someone like Colbert come out in the DNC to lambaste the empty chair, and seat Obama there as he starts.

They won't do it, but it'd be hilarious.

If they did that, I'd watch the DNC.

399 Coracle  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:36:40am

re: #393 Kronocide

That's what Pages are for. But what you if Paged it and nobody came?

Then it's the government's fault.

400 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:36:44am

re: #397 Sionainn

Exactly. Which is why I called you an ass.

Well then, call me one again, because

{sigh}

401 Kronocide  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:37:33am

Classic Treacher:

402 Charleston Chew  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:39:13am

The thing that bothers me the most about Eastwood's jackass performance is that he indulged in imagining the President as a punk-ass-jerk, putting words in the President's mouth that he would never say in reality. Now, I guess it counts as satire, but it's the perfect illustration of how conservatives have retreated into total fantasy because reality doesn't suit their beliefs.

Also, the image of an old white guy literally talking down to the President and "putting him in his place" is kinda disturbing. A standing impersonator would have actually been less offensive.

403 Sionainn  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:39:16am

re: #401 Kronocide

Classic Treacher:

[Embedded content]

Notice his avatar says "Don't eat dog." But, yeah, I'm crazy for believing some photoshopped sign at the RNC.

404 Mich-again  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:39:17am

re: #391 Mocking Jay

He also detailed plans for Senate and House races, and joked, “We should sink Todd Akin. If he’s found mysteriously murdered, don’t look for my whereabouts!”

The hypocrisy is stunning. The GOP establishment made Akin out to be some kind of neanderthal freak show for his extremist views on reproductive rights, and then the same GOP publishes their platform with the exact same extremist position that Akin was promoting.

405 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:39:18am

re: #382 sattv4u2

The videos!

(some of them were God awful,,,, most of the rest were worse!!!)

Youtube Video
406 Kronocide  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:39:27am

re: #396 sattv4u2

It would be much like many others!

Exactly.

407 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:40:34am

re: #404 Mich-again

The hypocrisy is stunning. The GOP establishment made Akin out to be some kind of neanderthal freak show for his extremist views on reproductive rights, and then the same GOP publishes their platform with the exact same extremist position that Akin was promoting.

They still want Akin's voters after all. They just know Akin himself is political poison. It sucks but it is what it is.

408 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:40:37am

re: #389 Coracle

Sure. But it's not relevant. Not anymore than this mornings multiple fatality shooting in a New Jersey supermarket. You like keeping a tally of just how barbaric "they" are. You should have your own space to do so, is all I'm saying.

I heard about that this morning. That's fucked up.

409 Kronocide  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:41:17am

Who built that chair?

410 Gus  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:42:01am

re: #258 Learned Mother of Zion

Another shooting, at a supermarket in NJ.

Gunman kills two, then himself, at New Jersey supermarket, authorities say

(CNN) -- A 23-year-old gunman killed two co-workers Friday at a Pathmark supermarket in Old Bridge, New Jersey, and then shot himself to death, Middlesex County Prosecutor Bruce J. Kaplan said.

The shooter wielded an AK-47 assault rifle and a handgun, and was carrying multiple ammunition magazines, he said.

"I believe everyone in the store was a target," said Kaplan, who said the gunman fired 16 rounds...

411 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:42:13am

re: #409 Kronocide

Who built that chair?

China? (Honestly I have no idea who builds chairs)

412 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:43:19am

re: #411 HappyWarrior

China? (Honestly I have no idea who builds chairs)

Prolly bought at Ikea, made in Malaysia.

413 Gus  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:43:39am

Stool.

414 blueraven  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:43:54am

re: #400 sattv4u2

Well then, call me one again, because

{sigh}

The sign is no worse than many seen at the tea party rallies.
Yes, it is shopped but we have seen so many ugly signs it is not hard to see why some people might see this as real, or at least question it.

415 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:44:01am

re: #413 Gus

Stool.

sample

416 Gus  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:44:23am

re: #415 sattv4u2

sample

Bowel

417 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:44:55am

re: #413 Gus

Stool.

re: #415 sattv4u2

sample

I grab some worn underwear.
///GAK!!

418 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:45:18am

[Link: blogs.wsj.com...]
Heh. Missed in the invisible president and his chair gag. I mean I realize why lawyers are an easy target but jeez.

419 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:45:39am

re: #414 blueraven

The sign is no worse than many seen at the tea party rallies.
Yes, it is shopped but we have seen so many ugly signs it is not hard to see why some people might see this a real, or at least question it.

Fake, but accurate

Got it

(didn't someone get in a shitload of trouble for that??. Was all the rage around here for quiet some time!)

420 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:45:53am

re: #410 Gus

Gunman kills two, then himself, at New Jersey supermarket, authorities say

Too close to my mom, about 30 miles away.

421 blueraven  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:47:49am

re: #419 sattv4u2

Fake, but accurate

Got it

(didn't someone get in a shitload of trouble for that??. Was all the rage around here for quiet some time!)

It was pretty loud if you ask me.

422 Mich-again  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:47:55am

re: #407 HappyWarrior

They still want Akin's voters after all. They just know Akin himself is political poison. It sucks but it is what it is.

Akin's sin apparently was that he didn't speak in code or use his official GOP dog whistle when discussing abortion. Akin clearly verbalized the GOP platform. Rove knows that the platform is nothing more than a Dear Santa letter from an angry old white man and that no one actually puts any credence in it. The last thing the GOP needs going into the election is anyone at all talking about their ridiculous platform.

423 Sionainn  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:48:06am

re: #419 sattv4u2

Fake, but accurate

Got it

(didn't someone get in a shitload of trouble for that??. Was all the rage around here for quiet some time!)

How many people have fallen for one of those freewoodpost articles?

424 Kronocide  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:48:12am

re: #419 sattv4u2

Fake, but accurate

Got it

(didn't someone get in a shitload of trouble for that??. Was all the rage around here for quiet some time!)

Whether the sign is real or photoshopped is irrelevant. It's crass satire, worthy of a chuckle but not to be taken too seriously.

Strawman Concern.

425 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:49:35am

re: #423 Sionainn

How many people have fallen for one of those freewoodpost articles?

1st, I haven't a clue as to what that is

2nd, sorry, but obvious is obvious (hence the word, obvious)

426 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:50:06am

re: #422 Mich-again

Akin's sin apparently was that he didn't speak in code or use his official GOP dog whistle when discussing abortion. Akin clearly verbalized the GOP platform. Rove knows that the platform is nothing more than a Dear Santa letter from an angry old white man and that no one actually puts any credence in it. The last thing the GOP needs going into the election is anyone at all talking about their ridiculous platform.

Yep. Kind of like one senator said after the U2 incident, "We violated the 11th amendment, thou shall not get caught."

427 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:50:29am

re: #424 Kronocide

Whether the sign is real or photoshopped is irrelevant. It's crass satire, worthy of a chuckle but not to be taken too seriously.

Strawman Concern.

I made no comment on the sign, the satire, nor condemned the chuckles

428 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:51:34am

Details emerge on Old Bridge NJ shooting. Two killed, plus shooter, in a Pathmark supermarket in Old Bridge. Police are still looking at a motive, but the shooter was an employee:

Authorities say he opened fire on employees he saw when he walked into the Pathmark store in Old Bridge. The store's front windows were shattered by gunfire.

Officials said at a news conference that police fired no rounds.

Authorities say 16 shots were fired and an AK-47, extra ammunition and a handgun were found at the scene. The motive is being investigated.

The shooting happened at about 4 a.m. inside a Pathmark grocery store in Old Bridge, Mayor Owen Henry told nj.com. The store was closed at the time and was scheduled to open at 6 a.m.

Employees who were in the store at the time of the shooting congregated later in the morning outside a TGI Friday's restaurant in the shopping center.

Police at the scene were keeping onlookers well away from the store. A number of vehicles were in the parking lot outside the supermarket, along with police vehicles.

429 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:52:07am

re: #398 HappyWarrior

If they did that, I'd watch the DNC.

Would be great comedy and entertainment, but would also violate the necessary seriousness of the convention. If Obama wins the election a stunt like that would be excellent for something like the White House Correspondents' Dinner.

430 danarchy  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:52:49am

re: #404 Mich-again

The hypocrisy is stunning. The GOP establishment made Akin out to be some kind of neanderthal freak show for his extremist views on reproductive rights, and then the same GOP publishes their platform with the exact same extremist position that Akin was promoting.

Actually they called him out for the use of the term "legitimate rape" and for his ridiculous view that a woman who is raped can't conceive. They never actually said anything about his policies...

431 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:52:55am

7.9 earthquake rocks Philippines, tsunami warning issued

[Link: ibnlive.in.com...]

damn

Hope the word is spreading fast to get to higher ground

432 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:53:40am

re: #429 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Would be great comedy and entertainment, but would also violate the necessary seriousness of the convention. If Obama wins the election a stunt like that would be excellent for something like the White House Correspondents' Dinner.

Yeah true. I'm if he wins re-election, he'll have fun with it though by that point it may be a little stale.

433 Sheila Broflovski  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:54:04am

Heading off to Canada now. If I don't get on Teh Intertubez, have a great weekend eh!

434 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:55:10am

re: #433 Learned Mother of Zion

Heading off to Canada now. If I don't get on Teh Intertubez, have a great weekend eh!

Score me some overpriced beer!!!
/

435 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:56:50am

re: #434 Cannadian Club Akbar

Score me some overpriced beer!!!
/

you can get that at 7-11, along with your stale pastries. Gives you a reason to get lost on your way home!!!

436 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:57:37am

re: #435 sattv4u2

you can get that at 7-11, along with your stale pastries. Gives you a reason to get lost on your way home!!!

HAR!! Actually, you can't buy beer at 7-11 here. Fuckers!!!

437 Kronocide  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:58:45am

re: #427 sattv4u2

I made no comment on the sign, the satire, nor condemned the chuckles

Your comment was regarding someone's perceived belief that the sign was real, which doesn't deal with the obvious satirical mockery of the backwards ass GOP platform regarding women and rape.

438 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:58:48am

re: #428 lawhawk

Details emerge on Old Bridge NJ shooting. Two killed, plus shooter, in a Pathmark supermarket in Old Bridge. Police are still looking at a motive, but the shooter was an employee:

More details...

OLD BRIDGE — An ex-marine fatally shot two co-workers at a Route 9 supermarket in Old Bridge, then turned the gun on himself, the mayor said.

At a morning press conference, Middlesex County Prosecutor Bruce Kaplan, said the 23-year-old suspected gunman killed an 18-year-old woman and a 24-year-old man.

Kaplan did not release the names of the victims, but the Asbury Park Press has learned they are Cristina LoBrutto, 18, and Bryan Breen, 24.

...Old Bridge Mayor Owen Henry said the ex-marine, also an Old Bridge resident, had worked at the store for about two weeks. He left the store this morning, and then returned a short time later, dressed in camouflage and armed with an AK-47 and an automatic pistol, the mayor said.

The ex-marine’s fatal wound was self-inflicted, said Henry.

Kaplan couldn't immediately confirm the military background of the 23-year-old man, but Manase Acheampong, 25, of Old Bridge, said the 23-year-old was a cousin of friend, and he said, that man did have a military background.

"He was just a local kid, and from what I'd seen, a normal kid. ... I never would have guessed this in a million years," said Acheampomg.

He said the 23-year-old is a native of Brooklyn.

439 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:00:08am

re: #437 Kronocide

Your comment was regarding someone's perceived belief that the sign was real, which doesn't deal with the obvious satirical mockery of the backwards ass GOP platform regarding women and rape.

{sigh}

440 Gus  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:00:21am

Well. Convention's over and there were hardly any incidents that I heard of. That's good. Apparently the place was crawling with LE. So much so that...

“I think it’s over-securitized,” said Dani Doane, in town with the conservative Heritage Foundation. “It’s like a police state out there.”

441 Sionainn  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:00:25am

re: #437 Kronocide

Your comment was regarding someone's perceived belief that the sign was real, which doesn't deal with the obvious satirical mockery of the backwards ass GOP platform regarding women and rape.

It's much more fun to mock individuals than to post an actual opinion about anything of substance.

442 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:01:18am

re: #440 Gus

Well. Convention's over and there were hardly any incidents that I heard of. That's good. Apparently the place was crawling with LE. So much so that...

a total of 2 arrests, from what I heard late yesterday afternoon

443 Gus  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:01:48am

...

Meanwhile, a member of the Florida National Guard providing security for the convention shot another guardsman Thursday night in an apparent accident at a La Quinta hotel in St. Petersburg, deputies said.

No charges were filled against Jeffrey A. Spurr, 26, of Bronson, for shooting the gun’s owner Michael Wdowiak, 21, of Weirsdale, in the upper body and left hand, said Marianne Pasha, spokeswoman for the Pinellas County Sheriff’s Office.

Spurr was looking at the grip on Wdowiak’s personal .357 revolver when it fired, hitting Wdowiak, Pasha said. Wdowiak underwent surgery but his condition was unavailable. The men are members of the National Guard contingent in Ocala.

Tampa Police Chief Jane Castor said she’s happy the event has been so peaceful and admitted that the estimates of rabble-rousers coming here turned out to be overblown. She said there may be a couple of thousand protesters in all, if that many.

If that’s the case, there were two officers for every protester.

444 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:02:00am

re: #440 Gus

Well. Convention's over and there were hardly any incidents that I heard of. That's good. Apparently the place was crawling with LE. So much so that...

The local AM news station mentioned that there were very few arrest because of the LE.

445 Gus  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:02:33am

re: #442 sattv4u2

a total of 2 arrests, from what I heard late yesterday afternoon

It's teh acid filled eggs! I remember reading about that and thinking "bullshit." People get way to excited these days.

446 Lidane  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:02:39am

re: #401 Kronocide

Dear Treacher,

That sound you hear isn't "libs" ranting about Eastwood. It's them laughing about it, or taking photos of empty chairs.

Mitt Romney got upstaged by an empty chair. Deal with it.

No love,
Me

447 Kronocide  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:03:06am

re: #441 Sionainn

It's much more fun to mock individuals than to post an actual opinion about anything of substance.

Don't mock Satt, he's PhotoShop curious.

448 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:03:30am

re: #442 sattv4u2

a total of 2 arrests, from what I heard late yesterday afternoon

Some incidents were stopped before anything happened.

How police on bikes intercepted anarchists

As Monday's RNC march wrapped up, deputies say about 50 to 60 members of the Black Bloc, an anarchist group, were looking to stir things up.

From a camera perched on a high-rise building in Tampa, the view showed protesters on the corner of Whiting and Morgan Street running to the north.

Captain Kyle Cockream with the Hillsborough Sheriff's Office is in charge of the bike unit for the RNC. He says his team has received word that troublemakers were on their way to a secure lot where federal agents, including the Secret Service, had their vehicles.

But before the Black Blockers could get in, deputies and officers created what they call a bike wall.

"They were there to meet the protesters. By the time the protesters got there on foot, they were out of breath. The bike cops had their fence formed, they were off their bikes had their arms folded and were waiting," Cockream said.

In fact, Cockream says the police training, the massive law enforcement presence and a storm named Isaac helped keep Black Blockers far away from Tampa.

Seventeen bus loads of them never showed up, the sheriff's office says.

"They were canceled. Whether because the transportation company didn't want to risk their assets coming down here, or they didn't have the infrastructure to pay for a hotel, " said Cockream.

449 Lidane  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:03:50am

re: #409 Kronocide

Who built that chair?

450 Kronocide  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:03:56am

re: #439 sattv4u2

{sigh}

Well said. Would you prefer an upding or a downding? I know you go both ways.

451 Gus  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:03:56am

re: #443 Gus

...

Gun safety! Derp... Recap...

Spurr was looking at the grip on Wdowiak’s personal .357 revolver when it fired, hitting Wdowiak, Pasha said. Wdowiak underwent surgery but his condition was unavailable. The men are members of the National Guard contingent in Ocala.

452 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:04:03am

Pathmark store shooter was ex-Marine who was an employee at store. Apparently came to the store this morning, left, and then returned with the AK-47 and opened fire on fellow employees before committing suicide. No shots fired by law enforcement.

453 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:04:26am

re: #447 Kronocide

Don't mock Satt, he's PhotoShop curious.

Someone say something about posting things of subsatnce

454 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:05:02am

re: #450 Kronocide

Well said. Would you prefer an upding or a downding? I know you go both ways.

Surprise me, big boy

(and make sure you leave a note in the morning!)

455 Gus  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:05:35am

That's a nice pistol grip. Ivory?

BLAM!

456 Gus  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:07:06am

re: #449 Lidane

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Stool.

457 Mich-again  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:07:31am

re: #440 Gus

Mayor Bob Buckhorn said the beefy security was integral in keeping the peace, though he is aware that downtown Tampa looked like an occupied city this week.

“Given a choice of the image of a city that is safe, a city that is prepared or the image of a city where anarchists run amok,” he said, “I’ll take the safe city image.”

Just getting the sheople ready for the eventual Marshall law, internment camps and police state that Obama has planned for his 2nd term.. /

458 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:07:44am

re: #449 Lidane

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That fucker stole my comment!!!

459 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:09:19am

re: #401 Kronocide

At least Biden is coherent.

460 Kronocide  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:10:39am

re: #459 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

At least Biden is coherent.

Where's the video of Biden talking to a chair or other inanimate object?

461 Gus  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:10:43am

Did Ikea get any stimulus money?

//

462 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:11:05am

re: #459 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

At least Biden is coherent.

Sometimes.
Here's a funny...
[Link: www2.wbtw.com...]

463 Lidane  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:11:32am
464 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:11:38am

Man complains to police of prostitute price hike
[Link: hosted.ap.org...]

Police in southeast Michigan say a man called to complain that a woman he had agreed to pay for sex unexpectedly increased the price.

CCA???

465 Gus  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:11:46am

Lawrence O`Donnell Interviews a Chair

Youtube Video
466 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:11:55am

re: #461 Gus

Did Ikea get any stimulus money?

//

A tax break for the beef to make their meatballs. BIG MEATBALLS ARE RIPPING US OFF!!!

467 Renaissance_Man  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:12:23am

re: #440 Gus

Well. Convention's over and there were hardly any incidents that I heard of. That's good. Apparently the place was crawling with LE. So much so that...

DF will be sad. He was hoping for a good lefty riot to make cultists more fearful and angry.

469 Kronocide  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:12:44am

re: #462 Cannadian Club Akbar

Sometimes.
Here's a funny...
[Link: www2.wbtw.com...]

A gaffe and rambling bordering on incoherency are not the same thing.

470 dragonath  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:12:51am

re: #457 Mich-again

Marshall law

Image: MAb8k.jpg

471 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:13:03am

re: #464 sattv4u2

Man complains to police of prostitute price hike
[Link: hosted.ap.org...]

Police in southeast Michigan say a man called to complain that a woman he had agreed to pay for sex unexpectedly increased the price.

CCA???

This is why you never leave them alive. What?
/////////

472 Gus  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:13:07am

From A Brief History Of Talking To Empty Chairs

473 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:13:16am

re: #463 Lidane

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I know they're meant to be silly but that's actually a really good point. Someone posted a link to a NPR interview with a Romney supporter around Clint's age and the woman just rambled about how she just doesn't like Obama and his wife either and it's time we have a first lady who looks like one.

474 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:13:51am

re: #469 Kronocide

A gaffe and rambling bordering on incoherency are not the same thing.

You can only fit so much on a marquee.
/

475 Gus  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:14:45am

More political furniture. There's also the Barney Frank incident...

"Trying to have a conversation with you would be like arguing with a dining room table."

Youtube Video

That lady is from La Rouche methinks.

476 danarchy  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:15:07am

re: #468 Gus

Piers Morgan talking to Todd Akin's empty chair

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Except Piers Did that before Clint. Maybe that's where he got the idea.

477 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:15:17am

re: #462 Cannadian Club Akbar

Sometimes.
Here's a funny...
[Link: www2.wbtw.com...]

Eh Mitt's referred to Russia as the USSR and the Czech Republic as Czechoslovakia a few times now. I don't think that means he's like Eastwood. There's harmless gaffes and then there's ranting at an inanimate object.

478 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:16:17am

re: #477 HappyWarrior

Eh Mitt's referred to Russia as the USSR and the Czech Republic as Czechoslovakia a few times now. I don't think that means he's like Eastwood. There's harmless gaffes and then there's ranting at an inanimate object.

Trust me. If Hooters had the room they would have the ramblin' man's quotes up right about now.

479 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:18:08am

re: #478 Cannadian Club Akbar

I need a suggestion

I have some nice fresh prosciouto and spinach

What else can I add to stuff / season chicken breasts with

480 Interesting Times  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:18:17am
481 Kronocide  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:18:35am

re: #472 Gus

From A Brief History Of Talking To Empty Chairs

Interviewing a chair and debating a chair are two entirely difference circumstances. Worlds apart.
... yeah /

482 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:19:14am

re: #478 Cannadian Club Akbar

Trust me. If Hooters had the room they would have the ramblin' man's quotes up right about now.

I don't doubt it. Just that Biden's gaffe is a common type of gaffe.

483 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:19:23am

re: #479 sattv4u2

I need a suggestion

I have some nice fresh prosciouto and spinach

What else can I add to stuff / season chicken breasts with

Roasted red pepper, green onions, baby swiss, mushrooms, sage (or poultry seasoning)

484 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:19:27am

re: #478 Cannadian Club Akbar

Trust me. If Hooters had the room they would have the ramblin' man's quotes up right about now.

Maybe Biden can talk to the empty wheelchair his friend Chuck stood up from!!

Youtube Video
485 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:20:04am

Bernanke notes the need for additional action, but stops short of saying what action will be taken - and doesn't announce new action in today's speech. Trying to understand what the Fed is saying/doing is akin to reading tea leaves or sitting through Divinition class at Hogwarts. Everyone takes away something different.

486 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:20:05am

re: #483 Cannadian Club Akbar

Roasted red pepper, green onions, baby swiss, mushrooms, sage (or poultry seasoning)

Got it

Thanks

487 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:20:36am

re: #482 HappyWarrior

I don't doubt it. Just that Biden's gaffe is a common type of gaffe.

On the Hooters menu, they charge $100 for coffee with the description under it saying "if you're having coffee here, you won't know what you're paying anyway".:)

488 AK-47%  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:20:56am

What can Romney run on? His tenure as governor? His time at Bain? The Ryan budget? The GOP platform?

All he can run on is fear and loathing of Obama.

Expect more, much more...

489 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:22:03am

re: #488 Expand Your Ground

What can Romney run on? His tenure as governor? His time at Bain? The Ryan budget? The GOP platform?

All he can run on is fear and loathing of Obama.

Expect more, much more...

From the unknown Hunter S. Thompson collection?
/

490 Mich-again  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:22:10am

re: #477 HappyWarrior

Eh Mitt's referred to Russia as the USSR and the Czech Republic as Czechoslovakia a few times now. I don't think that means he's like Eastwood. There's harmless gaffes and then there's ranting at an inanimate object.

I'm a bit concerned that the guy who wants to be the leader of the free world is still calling Russia the USSR. That changed 21 years ago. Does he still call Ameritech "Ma Bell"

491 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:26:18am

re: #479 sattv4u2

I need a suggestion

I have some nice fresh prosciouto and spinach

What else can I add to stuff / season chicken breasts with

Any fresh herbs about? Rosemary, basil, etc.?

492 Mich-again  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:26:57am

re: #488 Expand Your Ground

All he can run on is fear and loathing of Obama.

As your attorney, I advise you to take a hit out of the little brown bottle in my shaving kit. You won't need much, just a tiny taste.

493 Lidane  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:27:36am

re: #477 HappyWarrior

Eh Mitt's referred to Russia as the USSR and the Czech Republic as Czechoslovakia a few times now. I don't think that means he's like Eastwood. There's harmless gaffes and then there's ranting at an inanimate object.

Harmless, sure. But the Cold War ended decades ago. It would be nice if the guy running for POTUS knew that.

It's still a far cry from Old Man Yells At Chair though.

494 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:28:40am

re: #491 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Any fresh herbs about? Rosemary, basil, etc.?

Basil (but if I need anything else, like the baby swiss, I do have to go to the store anyway)

495 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:28:59am

re: #490 Mich-again

I'm a bit concerned that the guy who wants to be the leader of the free world is still calling Russia the USSR. That changed 21 years ago. Does he still call Ameritech "Ma Bell"

Yeah, if he's president and he refers to Medvedev as Prime Minister of the Soviet Union, that's going to look pretty silly. I think what it could be and this is coming from someone who has spent most of their life following the USSR's collapse but I imagine that Mitt can't get USSR out of his system because it was there longer than what we currently call Russia. I dunno though.

496 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:29:14am

re: #484 sattv4u2

Maybe Biden can talk to the empty wheelchair his friend Chuck stood up from!!

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LOL!

497 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:29:49am

re: #493 Lidane

Harmless, sure. But the Cold War ended decades ago. It would be nice if the guy running for POTUS knew that.

It's still a far cry from Old Man Yells At Chair though.

I would also be more forgiving of him if he did it once but he's actually done it a few times. And yeah old man yells at chair is something you expect to see in a comedic farce which I don't think what was the intention of having Eastwood there.

498 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:31:40am

re: #483 Cannadian Club Akbar

re: #491 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

I've made it before, but usually just stuffed with ham and shredded Italian cheese (pretty bland, imho)

The prosciutto will give it a whole new kick

499 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:33:23am

re: #498 sattv4u2

re: #491 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

I've made it before, but usually just stuffed with ham and shredded Italian cheese

The prosciutto will give it a whole new kick

Make sure it's sliced thin. You could also turn the ingredients into a quiche.

500 Interesting Times  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:33:33am
501 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:34:40am

re: #500 Interesting Times

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But he wants us to imitate Europe or so I'm told.

502 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:34:49am

re: #499 Cannadian Club Akbar

Make sure it's sliced thin. You could also turn the ingredients into a quiche.

It's almost translucent!!

Was in the store two days ago. Boars Head. Usually sells for $12.59 a pound. On sale

$5.00 a pound!

503 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:35:52am

[Link: www.theonion.com...]
The Onion's contribution to Clint and the chair.

504 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:38:07am

re: #503 HappyWarrior

[Link: www.theonion.com...]
The Onion's contribution to Clint and the chair.

A link from your link.
[Link: www.theonion.com...]

505 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:39:09am

re: #504 Cannadian Club Akbar

A link from your link.
[Link: www.theonion.com...]

Heh.

506 Gus  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:39:33am

People on the left will think the Clint Eastwood thing totally sucked. People on the right will think the Clint Eastwood thing was fantastic. Your average Joe was watching football.

507 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:39:47am

Ah well

This ass will BBL

(along with the rest of me)

508 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:39:51am

Alright. I'm not getting anything done sitting here. BBL.

509 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:41:05am

re: #506 Gus

People on the left will think the Clint Eastwood thing totally sucked. People on the right will think the Clint Eastwood thing was fantastic. Your average Joe was watching football.

South Carolina barely escaped with a win over Vanderbilt. Vandy played great!!

510 Mocking Jay  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:43:21am

re: #506 Gus

People on the left will think the Clint Eastwood thing totally sucked.

Are you kidding?!?

511 AK-47%  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:44:21am

re: #489 Cannadian Club Akbar

From the unknown Hunter S. Thompson collection?
/

I sure wish the Good Doctor were still with us to follow this campaign...

512 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:45:03am

This is troubling...

Iran has doubled uranium enrichment machines – report

Iran has doubled the number of uranium enrichment machines it has in an underground bunker, a UN report said on Thursday, showing Tehran continued to defy western pressure to stop its atomic work.

In the weeks and months when Israeli politicians increased their talk of air strikes on Iran's nuclear sites, the Islamic republic was rapidly increasing the enrichment capacity of its Fordow site, buried deep underground to withstand any such hit.

The UN International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) said in its quarterly report on Iran that the number of centrifuges at Fordow, near the holy Shia city of Qom, about 80 miles (130km) from Tehran, had more than doubled to 2,140 from 1,064 in May.

513 Gus  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:45:03am

re: #510 Mocking Jay

Are you kidding?!?

From what I see on Twitter. Not everybody. Some folks thought it was... racist.

514 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:45:55am

re: #513 Gus

From what I see on Twitter. Not everybody. Some folks thought it was... racist.

Why? Because he yelled at a brown chair??

515 Lidane  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:46:05am

re: #506 Gus

People on the left will think the Clint Eastwood thing totally sucked.

Nah. People on the left think the Eastwood thing was bizarre and hilarious. Proof: #Eastwooding . Or they rightly think that the image of an angry, old white Republican talking down to and yelling at a chair meant to be filled by a black President is disturbing.

516 AK-47%  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:46:28am

re: #513 Gus

From what I see on Twitter. Not everybody. Some folks thought it was... racist.

Which is why I am very hesitant to use that word at anything but a clear-cut case.

517 Lidane  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:47:42am

re: #514 sattv4u2

Why? Because he yelled at a brown chair??

Old white man pretending to talk down to and yell at a black POTUS and you're really asking that question?

518 Gus  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:48:50am

re: #517 Lidane

Old white man pretending to talk down to and yell at a black POTUS and you're really asking that question?

I'm not signing on to that. If people want to think that whole skit was racist. Well. That's there problem.

519 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:48:54am

I find it more weird than anything. I thought the whole point of this mystery speaker was to have someone well known and respected by the American people to make a case for Mitt. Instead, we had Clint Eastwood yelling at a chair and blaming Obama for policies that his predecessor supported and that his opponent supports. Plus what's getting little talk is how Clint said we don't need a lawyer as president. Well Obama's not the only lawyer running. It's just surreal. I think the Obama campaign compared it to a Dali painting.

520 Mocking Jay  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:49:36am

Heh.

In Jewish households, Elijah is pissed when he arrives to find his seat already taken.

521 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:50:05am

re: #517 Lidane

re: #518 Gus

I'm not signing on to that. If people want to think that whole skit was racist. Well. That's there problem.

Exactly, Gus

Jeez Louise.

522 Lidane  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:50:25am

re: #518 Gus

I'm not signing on to that. If people want to think that whole skit was racist. Well. That's there problem.

I'm not signing on to calling it racist. I'm saying that the optics of the whole thing could have it interpreted as racist because of the image of an old white man talking down to and yelling at an imaginary black POTUS.

523 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:51:04am

and people wonder why I {sigh}

524 Gus  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:51:16am

re: #522 Lidane

I'm not signing on to calling it racist. I'm saying that the optics of the whole thing could have it interpreted as racist because of the image of an old white man talking down to and yelling at an imaginary black POTUS.

OK. Groovy. I'm sure you've seen it flash past on Twitter. Not that many but they're out there.

525 Interesting Times  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:52:45am

re: #524 Gus

OK. Groovy. I'm sure you've seen it flash past on Twitter. Not that many but they're out there.

Can't bring myself to be concerned about that, when there's so much WIN like this to make up for it ;)

526 nines09  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:55:24am

Any truth to the rumor that Clint Eastwood was seen in the parking lot of the CC afterwards screaming at an Oriental family in a green car? /

527 Killgore Trout  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:56:06am

re: #518 Gus

I'm not signing on to that. If people want to think that whole skit was racist. Well. That's there problem.

I'm sure Hot Air will be featuring new Chris Mathews videos by this afternoon. I didn't watch Clint's speech and it doesn't sound interesting enough for me to bother.

528 Interesting Times  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:56:33am
529 Kronocide  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:57:06am

re: #523 sattv4u2

and people wonder why I {sigh}

I totally understand why you sigh.

530 Gus  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:58:44am

Chains.

531 Mattand  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:59:12am

re: #517 Lidane

Old white man pretending to talk down to and yell at a black POTUS and you're really asking that question?

I think the key is here is Clint Eastwood doesn't have a rep for being racist. Hell, his conservative credentials kind of ping pong all over the map. If his Wikipedia article is to be believed, he's more Libertarian than anything else.

As I stated yesterday, the problem is he made a Super Bowl commercial praising the auto industry's comeback, yet is supporting the guy (from freakin' MIchigan, no less!) who was perfectly happy to see it crash and burn.

I'm not for harassing 82 year olds, but someone needs to put that question directly to Eastwood.

532 Kronocide  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:59:58am

re: #522 Lidane

I'm not signing on to calling it racist. I'm saying that the optics of the whole thing could have it interpreted as racist because of the image of an old white man talking down to and yelling at an imaginary black POTUS.

To a middle aged or older black person growing up in the United States that would seem a reasonable interpretation.

533 Lidane  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:00:08am
534 Killgore Trout  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:00:21am

Meanwhile in Canada...
Police investigate massive maple syrup theft

Quebec police are on the lookout for thieves with a sweet tooth after a considerable amount of maple syrup disappeared from a large warehouse stocking over $30 million worth of the amber nectar.

535 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:01:52am

re: #531 Mattand

I think the key is here is Clint Eastwood doesn't have a rep for being racist. Hell, his conservative credentials kind of ping pong all over the map. If his Wikipedia article is to be believed, he's more Libertarian than anything else.

As I stated yesterday, the problem is he made a Super Bowl commercial praising the auto industry's comeback, yet is supporting the guy (from freakin' MIchigan, no less!) who was perfectly happy to see it crash and burn.

I'm not for harassing 82 year olds, but someone needs to put that question directly to Eastwood.

Yeah, I was surprised when I heard it was Eastwood because I was like huh Clint's pro choice and gay rights and he's not exactly on Romney's page when it comes to foreign policy either. Plus the auto industry ad that he got slammed by many of the right wing bloggers too. He just didn't look comfortable being there. I don't know what happened and I don't know if we'll ever get the true story because I imagine the Romney campaign is in damage control mode right now trying to remind people that Mitt spoke last night too.

536 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:03:24am

re: #534 Killgore Trout

Meanwhile in Canada...
Police investigate massive maple syrup theft

Heh from stealing cookies from the cookie jar to stealing maple syrup from the warehouse. Just doesn't have the same tune. "Who stole the maple syrup from the warehouse, you did, you did."

537 Mich-again  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:04:46am

re: #535 HappyWarrior

I thought it was classless when Clint's imaginary Obama was telling Clint to go F* himself.

538 Mattand  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:05:16am
539 Big Steve  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:10:58am

re: #535 HappyWarrior

Yeah, I was surprised when I heard it was Eastwood because I was like huh Clint's pro choice and gay rights and he's not exactly on Romney's page when it comes to foreign policy either. Plus the auto industry ad that he got slammed by many of the right wing bloggers too.

So are you saying that someone who is clearly not racist, holds moderate positions on social issues, supports american industry cannot simply believe that the current President is doing a poor job and should be replaced?

540 CuriousLurker  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:11:46am

re: #531 Mattand

I think the key is here is Clint Eastwood doesn't have a rep for being racist.

This. If it had been someone with a different history, maybe, but not Eastwood. Plus, I didn't detect any meanness in his delivery. It was just weird, funny & kinda sad.

541 kirkspencer  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:11:52am

re: #512 NJDhockeyfan

This is troubling...

Iran has doubled uranium enrichment machines – report

Yep. Except they're all IR-1s. And from the same report:
the Agency continues to verify the non-diversion of declared material at these facilities and LOFs.

In other words, if they're making bomb-worthy material, they're getting the supply from somewhere else and transporting it secretly and processing it somewhere else, as everything declared has IAEA inspectors on site.

542 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:12:05am

Chilean activist: Zionists are worse than Nazis

A political activist barred from Israel in April is back in the news in his native Chile, following a interview in which he said that “current Zionists” are worse than Nazis.

Mauricio Abu-Ghosh, the president of Chile’s Palestinian Federation, made the comments [Spanish] on Radio Cooperativa, partly as a response to a interview given by Shai Agosin, the president of the country’s Jewish community.

Telling listeners that Israel is inflicting a “brutal genocide” on Palestinians, Abu-Ghosh added that “the Nazis were boys compared to current Zionists.”

“I can affirm that the student surpassed the teacher,” Abu-Ghosh went on.

543 Mocking Jay  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:12:37am

re: #527 Killgore Trout

I'm sure Hot Air will be featuring new Chris Mathews videos by this afternoon. I didn't watch Clint's speech and it doesn't sound interesting enough for me to bother.

Glad to hear you're above it all.

544 Mattand  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:12:40am

re: #539 Big Steve

So are you saying that someone who is clearly not racist, holds moderate positions on social issues, supports american industry cannot simply believe that the current President is doing a poor job and should be replaced?

We need a strawman font around here.

545 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:13:04am

re: #539 Big Steve

So are you saying that someone who is clearly not racist, holds moderate positions on social issues, supports american industry cannot simply believe that the current President is doing a poor job and should be replaced?

No, I'm surprised a person like that is supporting Mitt Romney who holds socially conservative positions and said that Detroit should have been let to fail. He's entitled to support whomever he wants but I am surprised to see him supporting Mitt when Mitt's own positions are so clearly in contrast with his own. And no where did I suggest that Clint Eastwood was a racist so nice try.

546 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:16:04am

re: #541 kirkspencer

Yep. Except they're all IR-1s. And from the same report:
the Agency continues to verify the non-diversion of declared material at these facilities and LOFs.

In other words, if they're making bomb-worthy material, they're getting the supply from somewhere else and transporting it secretly and processing it somewhere else, as everything declared has IAEA inspectors on site.

They are letting the IAEA go where Iran wants them to go. They are hiding and bulldozing past weapons sites to keep the UN officials from seeing what they are up to.

547 Gus  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:17:59am

later

548 kirkspencer  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:19:49am

re: #546 NJDhockeyfan

They are letting the IAEA go where Iran wants them to go. They are hiding and bulldozing past weapons sites to keep the UN officials from seeing what they are up to.

Riiiight. Problem: the sites where the bulldozing is done should still have residual markers if they were used for the purposes claimed. They aren't alpha- or beta-heavy, however.

549 Lidane  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:20:28am
550 kirkspencer  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:21:56am

re: #546 NJDhockeyfan

They are letting the IAEA go where Iran wants them to go. They are hiding and bulldozing past weapons sites to keep the UN officials from seeing what they are up to.

Let me be plainer. On full examination the whole argument that the Iranians are building - and are close to - nuclear weapons reeks of the same misdirection of the claim Saddam was building and close to having nuclear weapons in Iraq about a decade ago. There are major issues that aren't there and the constant rebuttal is:

"Well that's because they're hiding them from the inspectors."

551 Lidane  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:22:02am
552 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:22:47am

re: #549 Lidane

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Yeah the damn liberal media that also apparently included Romney's advisers and Paul Ryan who looked shocked as everyone else who doesn't think Obama is Satan incarnate. Oh and a note to Breitbart.com, you are part of the same media you bitch non stop about.

553 CuriousLurker  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:23:48am

re: #551 Lidane

Judicial activism!!11!

554 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:24:14am

re: #548 kirkspencer

Riiiight. Problem: the sites where the bulldozing is done should still have residual markers if they were used for the purposes claimed. They aren't alpha- or beta-heavy, however.

They are hard at work cleaning up the place. Hopefully the IAEA inspectors will find something if the Iranians let the inspect the place.

The IAEA also expressed concerns about Parchin, a military site south of the capital that it wants to inspect for evidence of past nuclear weapons development.

"Significant ground scraping and landscaping have been undertaken over an extensive area at and around the location," it said.

Five buildings had been demolished and power lines, fences and paved roads removed, the report said, "extensive activities" that would hamper its investigation if granted access.

"The activities observed … further strengthen the agency's assessment that it is necessary to have access to the location at Parchin without further delay," the IAEA said.

Iran says Parchin is a conventional military facility and has dismissed the allegations about it as "ridiculous".

555 gwangung  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:25:47am

re: #554 NJDhockeyfan

They are hard at work cleaning up the place.

Curious: how do you clean up residual radioactivity? I'm assuming that'd be left if you're working with weapons grade uranium.

556 Decatur Deb  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:26:09am

re: #553 CuriousLurker

Voter suppression (and apathy) have been the biggest threats this cycle.

557 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:26:38am

re: #550 kirkspencer

Let me be plainer. On full examination the whole argument that the Iranians are building - and are close to - nuclear weapons reeks of the same misdirection of the claim Saddam was building and close to having nuclear weapons in Iraq about a decade ago. There are major issues that aren't there and the constant rebuttal is:

"Well that's because they're hiding them from the inspectors."

So am I to assume you think they are just intending to use their nuclear facilities for peaceful purposes like they say they are?

558 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:27:50am

re: #551 Lidane

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Good, if you're going to allow early voting in one part of the state, it should apply to the whole state. Kasich is such an ass.

559 darthstar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:29:14am

Busy Friday, but I'll drop my #eastwooding contribution off to show I wasn't abusing California carpool lane driving laws.

560 CuriousLurker  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:30:38am

re: #556 Decatur Deb

Voter suppression (and apathy) have been the biggest threats this cycle.

Yeah,that worries me more than anything else. Was it you that was going out to volunteer with one of those GOTV things recnetly?

561 darthstar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:31:41am

One more, as this was always my favorite song in Sesame Street...Three of these things belong together, three of these things are kind of the same...

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562 Varek Raith  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:32:42am

Iran has been a year from a nuke for ten+ years now.

563 makeitstop  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:32:44am

re: #551 Lidane

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There's some good news!

At least the judiciary is pushing back on a lot of these disenfranchisement schemes in the states.

564 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:34:11am

Holy cow, this is interesting.

Israeli Paper: “A Shouting Match” Took Place Between Israeli PM and US Ambassador Over Iran

“A shouting match” allegedly took place between Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and the US Ambassador to Israel Dan Shapiro during a visit by Congressman Mike Rogers (R-MI), Chair of the House Intelligence Committee earlier this week, the Israeli daily Yedioth Ahronot reported Friday.

Under the banner headline “The Conflict”, correspondent Shimon Shiffer, claims that during the meeting with Rogers, who was accompanied by Ambassador Shapiro, Netanyahu blamed Obama for not doing enough to stop the Iranian nuclear program and trying to block Israel from acting independently, and as a result, “time has run out”. At this point, Shapiro intervened to protest that the PM was misrepresenting Obama’s position, “ignoring the President’s commitment to stop Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons”.

According to the report, when the Prime Minister responded, “sparks flew” and the meeting ended on a confrontational note. Shiffer claims that during the whole exchange, Congressman Rogers “was watching from the sidelines, stunned”. The article ends by quoting an unnamed political source who claims that “if Obama wins, Netanyahu will have to look for safe shelter from the President’s vengeance”. The Algemeiner has not independently confirmed the accuracy of this story.

565 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:34:34am

re: #561 darthstar

One more, as this was always my favorite song in Sesame Street...Three of these things belong together, three of these things are kind of the same...

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Yeah one of those makes sense and the other makes my existing headache worse. How hard is it to say rape is rape? Apparently very hard if your name is Todd Akin, Ron Paul, or Paul Ryan.

566 Destro  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:34:40am

re: #550 kirkspencer

Let me be plainer. On full examination the whole argument that the Iranians are building - and are close to - nuclear weapons reeks of the same misdirection of the claim Saddam was building and close to having nuclear weapons in Iraq about a decade ago. There are major issues that aren't there and the constant rebuttal is:

"Well that's because they're hiding them from the inspectors."

re: #557 NJDhockeyfan

This paranoid war mindset is something a segment of Americans will never let go of. I don't know if they actually believe this or just use it to shut up discussions.

You can point to the current Israeli Defense Minister stating Iran has not started a nuclear weapons building program and they will say that this is misunderstood or politics or what not.

567 Lidane  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:34:55am

ZOMG! Fuel standards will kill us all! Eleventy!

568 blueraven  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:35:11am

re: #558 HappyWarrior

Good, if you're going to allow early voting in one part of the state, it should apply to the whole state. Kasich is such an ass.

I think that issue was already settled. This was something different. The republicans were claiming Obama was trying to stop military early voting,(which is absurd) because they filed against a new Ohio law that allowed only military to vote in the 3 days preceding the election instead of all voters...as it was before.

569 gwangung  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:35:54am

re: #568 blueraven

I think that issue was already settled. This was something different. The republicans were claiming Obama was trying to stop military early voting,(which is absurd) because they filed against a new Ohio law that allowed only military to vote in the 3 days preceding the election instead of all voters...as it was before.

Republicans are being absurd, period, on voting laws.

570 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:36:03am

re: #568 blueraven

I think that issue was already settled. This was something different. The republicans were claiming Obama was trying to stop military early voting,(which is absurd) because they filed against a new Ohio law that allowed only military to vote in the 3 days preceding the election instead of all voters...as it was before.

Victim mentalities at their best then.

571 Decatur Deb  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:36:03am

re: #560 CuriousLurker

Yeah,that worries me more than anything else. Was it you that was going out to volunteer with one of those GOTV things recnetly?

We did Univ of Florida at Gainesville a couple weeks ago. We're up for a big push in Tampa in a month or so, and I've just emailed a point of contact on the Gulf Coast for possible day trips. (They've invited us to a convention-watching party next week--might be fun to liveblog from there.)

572 Coracle  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:36:48am

re: #557 NJDhockeyfan

So am I to assume you think they are just intending to use their nuclear facilities for peaceful purposes like they say they are?

I think we should bomb them into the stone age just in case they're not.

573 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:37:38am

re: #569 gwangung

Republicans are being absurd, period, on voting laws.

Strikes me as curious that they're doing these in all states that Obama won but that Bush beat Kerry and Gore again. Gosh Republicans does it really hurt that much that people aren't always going to accept your party? Just remembered they're doing it in Pennslyvania too but just strikes me as interesting that they're doing it in states whose outcomes are fairly uncertain at this point and could tip the election one way or the other Hell I am still mad at the local Republicans here for fighting a precinct on the campus.

574 Lidane  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:38:06am
575 Varek Raith  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:39:01am

Yep.
Bombing Iran will be a cakewalk.
Nothing bad will happen.
Nope.
They wouldn't hit us in Afghanistan as a result.
Nor invade Iraq.
No sirree!
And the bombing will be completely effective at stopping the program
Yes sirree!

576 CuriousLurker  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:39:21am

re: #571 Decatur Deb

We did Univ of Florida at Gainesville a couple weeks ago. We're up for a big push in Tampa in a month or so, and I've just emailed a point of contact on the Gulf Coast for possible day trips. (They've invited us to convention-watching party next week--might be fun to liveblog from there.)

It's great that you're out there getting involved. I saw you mention it recently and and just wanted to commend you for actually getting out there and doing something to make a difference. Kudos! ;)

577 Decatur Deb  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:40:35am

re: #576 CuriousLurker

It's great that you're out there getting involved. I saw you mention it recently and and just wanted to commend you for actually getting out there and doing something to make a difference. Kudos! ;)

Can't quite rely on these fuckers to fuck themselves--though they're trying.

578 Lidane  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:40:48am

re: #575 Varek Raith

Yep.
Bombing Iran will be a cakewalk.
Nothing bad will happen.
Nope.
They wouldn't hit us in Afghanistan as a result.
Nor invade Iraq.
No sirree!
And the bombing will be completely effective at stopping the program
Yes sirree!

THIS.

All these warmongers wanting us to invade Iran had better be prepared to send their kids to die, since we'd have to reinstate the draft to do it.

579 Lidane  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:41:08am
580 gwangung  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:41:20am

re: #576 CuriousLurker

It's great that you're out there getting involved. I saw you mention it recently and and just wanted to commend you for actually getting out there and doing something to make a difference. Kudos! ;)

Ditto. No matter what side of the fence you're on, getting out the vote is a good thing.

581 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:42:01am

A participating democracy is a healthy one.

582 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:42:39am

re: #567 Lidane

And it would ignore that the Prius has been one of the safest cars on the road - while having class leading mileage.

Even the Volt has excellent crash test ratings - both NHTSA and IIHS. Hybrids, plug-ins, and other fuel efficient vehicles have shown that they can be safe and efficient.

Malkin's simply holding on to an outdated view on CAFE when econoboxes were made to comply with fuel economy levels, and manufacturers scrimped on all the details - from creature comforts to safety.

Now, we can get the best of both worlds.

The one area where the new fuel economy levels will have a significant impact is on price. It will have higher initial costs to buy, but costs to operate will be much lower.

583 gwangung  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:42:50am

re: #575 Varek Raith

Yep.
Bombing Iran will be a cakewalk.
Nothing bad will happen.
Nope.
They wouldn't hit us in Afghanistan as a result.
Nor invade Iraq.
No sirree!
And the bombing will be completely effective at stopping the program
Yes sirree!

Yup. Cause the Law of Unintended Consequences just doesn't apply to conservatives, nosiree.

584 kirkspencer  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:42:51am

re: #557 NJDhockeyfan

So am I to assume you think they are just intending to use their nuclear facilities for peaceful purposes like they say they are?

Probably.

The nuclear plant they are building is not a breeder. There are several good reasons for an oil producing nation to make nuclear power-plants, especially when they have their own uranium sites.

And in the verification part of "trust but verify", we keep coming up with little reason to NOT believe them other than their anti-Israel rhetoric (which is matched by their anti-nuke rhetoric. Or perhaps you missed Khameni's anti-nuke fatwa, condemning both possession and use.)

585 aagcobb  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:43:23am

re: #573 HappyWarrior

Strikes me as curious that they're doing these in all states that Obama won but that Bush beat Kerry and Gore again. Gosh Republicans does it really hurt that much that people aren't always going to accept your party? Just remembered they're doing it in Pennslyvania too but just strikes me as interesting that they're doing it in states whose outcomes are fairly uncertain at this point and could tip the election one way or the other Hell I am still mad at the local Republicans here for fighting a precinct on the campus.

Its because this is about their last shot at winning with their current base. By 2016, too much the GOP base will have died of old age for them to win without reaching out to minorities, gays and single women.

586 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:43:28am

re: #562 Varek Raith

Iran has been a year from a nuke for ten+ years now.

They're also working on the flying cars to deliver them with.

587 Jadewater  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:43:39am

My fave so far:

Game Of Thrones

588 Coracle  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:45:03am

I'm pretty convinced Netanyahu wants a shooting war with Iran, and wants the US to back him. I think the main reason he hasn't launched one yet is fear Obama will at most only help to defend Israeli soil.

Hell, I think it's a 50/50 proposition between now and November that if Netanyahu thinks Obama's going to win, he'll attack Iran on his own.

I'm 100% sure that if Romney wins, The US will be at war with Iran before the 2014 congressional elections. Most likely before his first year is up.

589 Obdicut  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:45:49am

The California DMV is so much fucking better than the New York one oh my god I can't even tell you.

590 CuriousLurker  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:45:57am

Gah, have to get back to work. Laters...

591 Varek Raith  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:47:18am

re: #589 Obdicut

The California DMV is so much fucking better than the New York one oh my god I can't even tell you.

Youtube Video
592 aagcobb  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:47:21am

re: #588 Coracle

I'm pretty convinced Netanyahu wants a shooting war with Iran, and wants the US to back him. I think the main reason he hasn't launched one yet is fear Obama will at most only help to defend Israeli soil.

Hell, I think it's a 50/50 proposition between now and November that if Netanyahu thinks Obama's going to win, he'll attack Iran on his own.

I'm 100% sure that if Romney wins, The US will be at war with Iran before the 2014 congressional elections. Most likely before his first year is up.

I don't think either Netanyahu or Romney are that stupid. I doubt Romney believes 90% of the shit he says; he is the guy who enacted universal health care first.

593 Lidane  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:47:24am

But are they pointing at empty chairs? Inquiring minds want to know.

594 Decatur Deb  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:48:05am

re: #589 Obdicut

The California DMV is so much fucking better than the New York one oh my god I can't even tell you.

Every nasty DMV in the world sends their people to New Jersey for training.

595 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:48:24am

re: #584 kirkspencer

Probably.

The nuclear plant they are building is not a breeder. There are several good reasons for an oil producing nation to make nuclear power-plants, especially when they have their own uranium sites.

If you are correct that they are just building nuclear power-plants, please explain why they must build their nuclear reactors deep under ground and hiding them.

And in the verification part of "trust but verify", we keep coming up with little reason to NOT believe them other than their anti-Israel rhetoric (which is matched by their anti-nuke rhetoric. Or perhaps you missed Khameni's anti-nuke fatwa, condemning both possession and use.)

Oh shit, Khameni can be trusted? Are you shitting me?

596 Lidane  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:48:33am
597 Coracle  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:49:19am

re: #592 aagcobb

I don't think either Netanyahu or Romney are that stupid. I doubt Romney believes 90% of the shit he says; he is the guy who enacted universal health care first.

I wish I had your optimism. Netanyahu I am utterly sick of. And I could easily see a new war as part of Romney economic policy.

598 Varek Raith  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:49:37am

re: #595 NJDhockeyfan

If you are correct that they are just building nuclear power-plants, please explain why they must build their nuclear reactors deep under ground and hiding them.

Oh shit, Khameni can be trusted? Are you shitting me?

But you trust him when he says he wants to attack us or Israel?
Okely dokely.

599 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:50:25am

re: #584 kirkspencer

Probably.

The nuclear plant they are building is not a breeder. There are several good reasons for an oil producing nation to make nuclear power-plants, especially when they have their own uranium sites.

And in the verification part of "trust but verify", we keep coming up with little reason to NOT believe them other than their anti-Israel rhetoric (which is matched by their anti-nuke rhetoric. Or perhaps you missed Khameni's anti-nuke fatwa, condemning both possession and use.)

But that was obvious misdirection. He was obviously lying since the sole goal of Iran's existence right now is developing a nuclear device and immediately using it on Israel.
/

600 Lidane  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:50:38am

re: #597 Coracle

And I could easily see a new war as part of Romney economic policy.

He did promise to create 12 million new jobs.

///

601 Varek Raith  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:51:16am

re: #595 NJDhockeyfan

Also, deep enough underground we'd be ineffective at actually hitting them in airstrikes.
So...
How's an airwar going to work against this program again?

602 Killgore Trout  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:52:04am

re: #588 Coracle

I'm pretty convinced Netanyahu wants a shooting war with Iran, and wants the US to back him. I think the main reason he hasn't launched one yet is fear Obama will at most only help to defend Israeli soil.

Hell, I think it's a 50/50 proposition between now and November that if Netanyahu thinks Obama's going to win, he'll attack Iran on his own.

I'm 100% sure that if Romney wins, The US will be at war with Iran before the 2014 congressional elections. Most likely before his first year is up.

I've been thinking about this too. I don't think the election results will have much of a difference with the probability of an attack on Iran. Whatever pentagon and state dept. assessments and analysis isn't going to change with a new President. In fact, I think the decision about allowing Iran to go nuclear or not has probably already been made. The diplomacy and saber rattling is just for show. It's a myth that Obama and the Derms are peace loving pacifists and the Republicans are heartless warmongers.

603 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:52:18am

re: #598 Varek Raith

But you trust him when he says he wants to attack us or Israel?
Okely dokely.

OK, you only trust them when they say they are against nuclear weapons (ignore the intelligence reports please) but disregard their constant threat to annihilate Israel!

/Derp.

604 gwangung  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:53:33am

re: #595 NJDhockeyfan

If you are correct that they are just building nuclear power-plants, please explain why they must build their nuclear reactors deep under ground and hiding them.

Um, isn't this irrelevant, given the hostility and aggression displayed in the past?

And underground reactors that aren't breeders won't make weapons grade uranium. Simple physics.

605 aagcobb  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:56:19am

re: #597 Coracle

I wish I had your optimism. Netanyahu I am utterly sick of. And I could easily see a new war as part of Romney economic policy.

If he started a war with Iran then restarted conscription so we could actually fight it, I predict a massive Democratic landslide in the 2014 congressional races. For all his faults, Romney is a smart guy; he has other fish to fry, mainly massive tax cuts for himself and his buddies.

606 Obdicut  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:56:35am

[Link: www.theonion.com...]

“As the convention kicks off Tuesday with speeches from the likes of Rick Santorum and Nikki Haley, we should prepare ourselves to hear a more-or-less unending stream of ideas that should never even enter one’s mind, let alone be verbalized, in this day and age,” said Elizabeth Unger, a political scientist at Georgetown University. “It’s difficult to comprehend, but dozens of comments on such topics as human relationships and the physical world itself—which will seem as if they were crafted by some primitive unthinking civilization that existed centuries ago—will actually be emphasized, repeated, and used to punctuate key points in every single speech.”

“And what’s more baffling is that speakers will receive legitimate applause for saying things in public that no reasonable, informed member of society would ever willingly say in private,” she continued. “In fact, the more monstrous and archaic the thing sounds, the more ardent the ovation will be.”

Unger said the broad range of antiquated and inappropriate things that will be articulated each night on live television will not, as one might suspect, be blurted out by accident, as an involuntary reflex, or from momentary lack of forethought. While she acknowledged that such remarks would defy all contemporary definitions of logic and propriety, Unger confirmed they would actually be written down, organized, and rehearsed in advance, as if they in fact represented the speakers’ fully formed opinions and deeply held convictions on those particular issues.

“What’s fascinating is that these things, which will be spoken against all sense of contemporary decency and rational judgment, will not be the rantings of degenerates or imbeciles,” said Erik Olin Wright, president of the American Sociological Association. “Rather, they’ll be voiced by well-known political figures, distinguished business leaders, and top minds of national conservative movements—dozens of outwardly functional, ordinary people who for some reason appear eager to vocalize bizarrely backward-looking ideologies that no right-thinking modern human being would ever fathom giving voice to.”

“It’s almost as if these people are unaware that the Enlightenment, the scientific revolution, various civil rights movements, and the entirety of social progress over the previous several centuries even occurred,” Wright added.

Scholars also affirmed that sentiments relating to economic opportunity, natural resources, and human culture that should never exit a person’s mouth would in fact be chanted in unison throughout the convention, easily bringing the total count of grossly inappropriate utterances into the hundreds of thousands.

According to the vast majority of experts contacted, such bizarrely out-of-date concepts, if ever fully acted upon, would nullify scores of generations of human advancement.

“If this gathering were held in the 1700s or 1800s, a certain fraction of the comments they will make on issues like religion and commerce might be considered somewhat appropriate by people of the time,” anthropologist Gregory Switzer said. “But much of what is said at the RNC about fairness and the treatment of fellow human beings in need, for example, is far more consistent with the very beginnings of rudimentary social empathy in our species dating back to the earliest emergence of human civilization some 10,000 years ago, when our barely developed ancient ancestors would literally smash each other’s skulls in with large rocks without a care or second thought.”

607 blueraven  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:57:06am

re: #603 NJDhockeyfan

OK, you only trust them when they say they are against nuclear weapons (ignore the intelligence reports please) but disregard their constant threat to annihilate Israel!

/Derp.

Perhaps they are lying (blustering) on both accounts
Or perhaps they are telling the truth on both accounts

You are the one cherry picking.

608 Obdicut  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:57:42am

re: #605 aagcobb

If he started a war with Iran then restarted conscription so we could actually fight it, I predict a massive Democratic landslide in the 2014 congressional races. For all his faults, Romney is a smart guy; he has other fish to fry, mainly massive tax cuts for himself and his buddies.

Yeah. If Romney is elected, he will gut social services, slash taxes on the highest income earners, mutilate labor laws, destroy environmental regulations, but I don't think starting wars is very important to him.

609 blueraven  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:58:45am

re: #608 Obdicut

Yeah. If Romney is elected, he will gut social services, slash taxes on the highest income earners, mutilate labor laws, destroy environmental regulations, but I don't think starting wars is very important to him.

No probably not, but depending on his advisers and the congress we have...

610 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:00:11am

re: #609 blueraven

No probably not, but depending on his advisers and the congress we have...

I just hope he doesn't do something really stupid and make his foreign policy adviser, Bolton the secretary of state. Romney's prospective domestic policies already worry me.

611 Lidane  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:02:06am
612 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:02:36am

re: #608 Obdicut

Yeah. If Romney is elected, he will gut social services, slash taxes on the highest income earners, mutilate labor laws, destroy environmental regulations, but I don't think starting wars is very important to him.

You forgot throwing granny off the cliff and placing the Marines with tanks and fighter jets on the border. I can tell from last night's RNC he is one evil SOB.
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613 Jadewater  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:04:11am

re: #611 Lidane

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Lol. It made American news!

In CANADA WE TAKE MAPLE SYRUP THEFT SERIOUSLY DAMMIT!

614 Coracle  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:04:20am

re: #602 Killgore Trout

I've been thinking about this too. I don't think the election results will have much of a difference with the probability of an attack on Iran. Whatever pentagon and state dept. assessments and analysis isn't going to change with a new President. In fact, I think the decision about allowing Iran to go nuclear or not has probably already been made. The diplomacy and saber rattling is just for show. It's a myth that Obama and the Derms are peace loving pacifists and the Republicans are heartless warmongers.

While neither party as as extreme as you paint in your last sentence, I don't agree at all that the likelihood of US military involvement against Iran is anywhere near the same with Dems or Reps in the Whitehouse.

615 Obdicut  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:04:24am

re: #612 NJDhockeyfan

You forgot throwing granny off the cliff and placing the Marines with tanks and fighter jets on the border. I can tell from last night's RNC he is one evil SOB.
//

No, I don't think he'd throw granny off a cliff. However, his stated positions include everything that I said above. I'm not sure why on earth you think that it was hyperbole. Have you read his positions, and the GOP's positions? Feel free to demonstrate that I'm wrong about any of the points I made by citing Romney or the GOP's positions.

You won't be able to, because the GOP is proudly anti-labor, clamoring to slash social services, and absolutely dead set on deregulating industry. You know this.

616 blueraven  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:04:43am

re: #612 NJDhockeyfan

You forgot throwing granny off the cliff and placing the Marines with tanks and fighter jets on the border. I can tell from last night's RNC he is one evil SOB.
//

Problem is, he already said he would do the things Obdicut posted.

617 Interesting Times  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:05:44am
618 Obdicut  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:06:04am

re: #612 NJDhockeyfan

It is kind of heartening that you see the things I listed as negatives, though. I'm glad you feel that way. It's too bad the GOP sees doing all that as positives, though. And they have a lot of power in this country, unfortunately.

619 sagehen  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:06:05am

re: #611 Lidane

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That's not as funny as it sounds... apparently the weather's been unfriendly to maple trees or something, there's a real shortage.

Okay, y'know what? It actually is funny. Syrup shortages. Black market syrup. Parents who will pay *anything* to shut up the brat who won't eat his pancakes or waffles without...

620 Lidane  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:06:35am

re: #613 Jadewater

Lol. It made American news!

In CANADA WE TAKE MAPLE SYRUP THEFT SERIOUSLY DAMMIT!

It's either that or talk about Old Man Yells At Chair for the next 24 hours.

Maple syrup it is!

621 kirkspencer  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:06:47am

re: #595 NJDhockeyfan

If you are correct that they are just building nuclear power-plants, please explain why they must build their nuclear reactors deep under ground and hiding them.

The repetitive threats by Israel to bomb them?

Simple reality: if I had to live in one or the other, I'd choose Israel over Iran. But the international threats have not been a one-way street, and Israel had bombed nuclear facilities in the past.

Oh shit, Khameni can be trusted? Are you shitting me?

Yes, I think he can be trusted in this case -- because it was a fatwa, not a pronouncement.

You've locked yourself in the Cretan paradox by assuming everything Khameni says is a lie. Your solution is "except what I want to assume is the truth" which is an untrustworthy reed.

It's wiser to think of him as a pope analogue, back when the pope commanded a nation that could not be ignored. A Fatwa by him is nominally equivalent to a pope making an apostolic constitution at the least.

Pay attention to the fatwas. They're solid basis, not political blathering.

622 AK-47%  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:07:19am

re: #606 Obdicut

[Link: www.theonion.com...]

The Onion article is a bit hyperbolic, but the more I hear from these people, the more I wonder how we can begin to accomodate them in a modern, industrial society.

They really need their own on Republic of Wingnuttistan that they can run into the ground to prove their ideological integrity.

623 Decatur Deb  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:07:58am

re: #613 Jadewater

Lol. It made American news!

In CANADA WE TAKE MAPLE SYRUP THEFT SERIOUSLY DAMMIT!

A bank in Parma IT backs its reserves with parmesan cheese. Fur reel.

624 Jadewater  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:08:33am

re: #619 sagehen

That's not as funny as it sounds... apparently the weather's been unfriendly to maple trees or something, there's a real shortage.

Okay, y'know what? It actually is funny. Syrup shortages. Black market syrup. Parents who will pay *anything* to shut up the brat who won't eat his pancakes or waffles without...

It is serious, and could effect the market but there is just something about it being maple syrup that just tickles my funny bone. I'm trying to imagine the people planning the "The Great Canadian Maple Syrup Heist of 2012" and it cracks me up.

625 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:08:58am

Gotta run. Work is calling.

Have a great 3 day weekend!

626 Obdicut  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:09:21am

re: #621 kirkspencer

It's not the Epimenides paradox. It's just selection bias.

627 Lidane  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:09:45am
628 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:09:57am

Romney's ignorance/willful disregard for global warming will have repercussions.

He may have gotten cheers and laughs about how "President Obama promised to slow the rise of the oceans and to heal the planet… My promise is to help you and your family" but the fact is that the two concepts aren't mutually exclusive. We know that insurance companies are seriously concerned about natural disasters and they've suffered tremendous losses as a result of storms like Katrina, Lee, Irene, and before that Andrew. Severe storms, flooding, and other damage are likely to increase as a result of higher temperatures in offshore waters, higher water levels increase the chances of coastal flooding.

Those costs are passed on to the insureds and the federal government (NFIP!). We ignore the science at our own peril. In fact, insurance companies have been warning about the costs of global warming for years.

The irony is that Mitt's heading to Louisiana to see the storm damage from Isaac today, even as the federal levee improvement program helped protect NOLA from flooding.

629 Sionainn  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:11:22am

re: #610 HappyWarrior

I just hope he doesn't do something really stupid and make his foreign policy adviser, Bolton the secretary of state. Romney's prospective domestic policies already worry me.

NOOO! Don't talk like Romney has won!

630 Jadewater  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:11:32am

re: #623 Decatur Deb

A bank in Parma IT backs its reserves with parmesan cheese. Fur reel.

Yeah I heard a radio bit on that. I think there was a big cheese bank that was badly damaged by an earthquake and the were talking about how it would effect the economy because of the way the cheese banking system is set up in Italy.

631 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:12:04am

re: #629 Sionainn

NOOO! Don't talk like Romney has won!

Yeah, sorry, should have prefaced that with an if.

632 Lidane  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:12:14am
633 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:13:05am

re: #628 lawhawk

Romney's ignorance/willful disregard for global warming will have repercussions.

He may have gotten cheers and laughs about how "President Obama promised to slow the rise of the oceans and to heal the planet… My promise is to help you and your family" but the fact is that the two concepts aren't mutually exclusive. We know that insurance companies are seriously concerned about natural disasters and they've suffered tremendous losses as a result of storms like Katrina, Lee, Irene, and before that Andrew. Severe storms, flooding, and other damage are likely to increase as a result of higher temperatures in offshore waters, higher water levels increase the chances of coastal flooding.

Those costs are passed on to the insureds and the federal government (NFIP!). We ignore the science at our own peril. In fact, insurance companies have been warning about the costs of global warming for years.

The irony is that Mitt's heading to Louisiana to see the storm damage from Isaac today, even as the federal levee improvement program helped protect NOLA from flooding.

That's really a cheap joke but when you're dealing with a crowd who probably thinks Al Gore invented Global Warming............ Anyhow an environmentally sound Earth is a better earth for us and our families. Romney isn't stupid, he should know that but I'm disappointed he took the stupid way out on environmental issues.

634 Interesting Times  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:13:10am

re: #628 lawhawk

Romney's ignorance/willful disregard for global warming will have repercussions.

635 Decatur Deb  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:13:14am

re: #628 lawhawk

Romney's ignorance/willful disregard for global warming will have repercussions.

He may have gotten cheers and laughs about how "President Obama promised to slow the rise of the oceans and to heal the planet… My promise is to help you and your family" but the fact is that the two concepts aren't mutually exclusive. We know that insurance companies ...snip

The irony is that Mitt's heading to Louisiana to see the storm damage from Isaac today, even as the federal levee improvement program helped protect NOLA from flooding.

Maybe Kanye West will play his next fundraiser.

636 AK-47%  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:13:33am

re: #623 Decatur Deb

A bank in Parma IT backs its reserves with parmesan cheese. Fur reel.

Cheese in a spray can! Now there's a bankable asset!!!

637 kirkspencer  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:13:34am

re: #626 Obdicut

It's not the Epimenides paradox. It's just selection bias.

Selection bias is a solution to the paradox. Not a good one, but a solution nonetheless.

638 makeitstop  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:13:55am

re: #593 Lidane

But are they pointing at empty chairs? Inquiring minds want to know.

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I'm thinking maybe CEO Romney told everyone to just let Clint go and do, against everyone's better judgment.

Wait, did I just use the phrase 'better judgment' while talking about the Romney campaign? HAHA. I made a funny.

639 Decatur Deb  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:14:00am

re: #630 Jadewater

Yeah I heard a radio bit on that. I think there was a big cheese bank that was badly damaged by an earthquake and the were talking about how it would effect the economy because of the way the cheese banking system is set up in Italy.

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

640 Jadewater  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:16:11am

re: #619 sagehen

That's not as funny as it sounds... apparently the weather's been unfriendly to maple trees or something, there's a real shortage.

Okay, y'know what? It actually is funny. Syrup shortages. Black market syrup. Parents who will pay *anything* to shut up the brat who won't eat his pancakes or waffles without...

I wonder how one would go about selling that much hot syrup?

I buy my yearly supply of syrup from local Mennonites. In the spring the load their buggies with syrup and trot to a major highway to set up roadside shop. I buy a couple of litres of it for just over 20 bucks.

So find it hard not to concoct of vision of a horse and buggy gang selling this stolen stuff. Which makes the whole thing even more funny.

641 Kragar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:17:21am

Rick Perry: 'King' Obama Leading a 'Clear Attack on People of Faith'

Led by this administration, when you think about the clear messages that they send, whether it’s by fiat—and that’s one of my great concerns about this president, we didn’t elect a King Mr. Obama, we elected a president, we expect the rule of law to be maintained in this country, go to Congress, pass legislation—he’s pushing these programs through whether it’s a clear attack on the Catholic Church and their opposition to contraception, those are purely wars against religion. When you think about the ministerial exception that he went to the Supreme Court to try to overturn, you know thank God he lost 9-0, even his liberal judges wouldn’t go that far, so clear attack on people of faith. My instinct is, I don’t have clear evidence, but my instinct is through other agencies there is this intimidation factor to our places of worship that you best not be in job of anything that we decide is political. For instance, clear intimidation to churches using IRS as a tool to keep anyone from making any statements about a political election.

Funny this coming from the man waging a clear war against minority voters in his own state.

642 Decatur Deb  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:17:32am

re: #640 Jadewater

I wonder how one would go about selling that much hot syrup?

I buy my yearly supply of syrup from local Mennonites. In the spring the load their buggies with syrup and trot to a major highway to set up roadside shop. I buy a couple of litres of it for just over 20 bucks.

So find it hard not to concoct of vision of a horse and buggy gang selling this stolen stuff. Which makes the whole thing even more funny.

The Quebec cartel has its sticky fingers across the border.

643 Lidane  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:21:27am
644 Kragar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:22:09am

re: #643 Lidane

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So what did throwing peanuts mean?

645 Decatur Deb  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:23:29am

re: #644 Kragar

So what did throwing peanuts mean?

Means Romney is going to double his share of the Black vote.

[Link: www.politico.com...]

646 kirkspencer  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:24:03am

re: #619 sagehen

That's not as funny as it sounds... apparently the weather's been unfriendly to maple trees or something, there's a real shortage.

Okay, y'know what? It actually is funny. Syrup shortages. Black market syrup. Parents who will pay *anything* to shut up the brat who won't eat his pancakes or waffles without...

One of the things I've been using as evidence of global warming that isn't "lying scientists" is the slow migration of maple syrup production. It's got to be the right temperature sequence. If it doesn't get cold enough the starch doesn't get stored but instead continues to be used, and the rising spring sap has far less sugar in it.

For what it's worth, my other informal evidence is garden clubs across the nation, who have been documenting when they could plant, what grew, and so forth for well over a century. Simplistically, the "zones" have shifted half a zone north in that time -- and in some cases it's a full zone. Borderline crops have quit being borderline (and some former standards are now borderline.)

647 Kragar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:25:07am

To be fair, Clint might have really thought Obama was there...

648 wrenchwench  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:25:52am

“Mexican Mitt” parody twitter account suspended before Romney’s RNC speech

‘Mexican Mitt,’ a parody twitter account that has been railing against Mitt Romney since the primaries and pokes fun at Romney’s on-again, off-again relationship with Mexican ancestry, was mysteriously suspended on the eve of Mitt Romney’s speech at the Republican National Convention Thursday night.

[...]

For his part, Alcaraz has a theory.

“There was some guy who got really upset with Mexican Mitt,” Alcaraz says. “Mexican Mitt told him something like, ‘don’t be so butt hurt because your account sucks and mine doesnt.’ I think the guy may have reported it as abuse.”

Alcaraz says an automated message from Twitter said the account would be reinstated if Mexican Mitt responded by saying he agreed to the Twitter terms of service. He acquiesced.

[...]

The move to suspend the parody account by Twitter came on the same day Romney’s campaign made history by becoming the first presidential campaign to buy a trending topic on Twitter. The hashtag #RomneyRyan2012 was promoted by the campaign for a minimum of $120,000, according to Mashable.

[...]

Mexican Mitt Parody
@MexicanMitt

I am the Most Mexican Man in The World!© Follow me as I run for Presidente of the United Estates! El Fake Accounto! Not affiliated w/ pendejos! Ajua!

Formerly Chihuahua, cabrones!

He's back, and he's funnier than ever.

649 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:26:19am

re: #575 Varek Raith

Yep.
Bombing Iran will be a cakewalk.
Nothing bad will happen.
Nope.
They wouldn't hit us in Afghanistan as a result.
Nor invade Iraq.
No sirree!
And the bombing will be completely effective at stopping the program
Yes sirree!

All other countries that do business with Iran would totally stay out of it and not even say anything.

650 Kragar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:28:46am

RNC Delegate Offended By Presence of ‘Mexican’ At Disney’s Epcot Center

During a trip to Epcot at Disneyworld, Pennsylvania delegate Mark Harris and his wife were shocked and offended to find a Mexican employee working at the amusement park’s American pavilion, which showcases the different cultures in the United States. According to the couple’s blog, Harris complained to staff that he was “highly offended” that a “person from Mexico” was working in the American pavilion when other nations’ pavilions were staffed by people from each respective country:

651 Jadewater  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:28:54am

re: #646 kirkspencer

For what it's worth, my other informal evidence is garden clubs across the nation, who have been documenting when they could plant, what grew, and so forth for well over a century. Simplistically, the "zones" have shifted half a zone north in that time -- and in some cases it's a full zone. Borderline crops have quit being borderline (and some former standards are now borderline.)

That's the same up here. A couple of years ago a local garden club had a weekend festival. One of the speakers, from a major garden plant producer, gave a talk on "What Climate Change Means for Gardeners". He talked about negatives but the major part of it was about how now people can and will be able to grow so many new kinds of plants which before wouldn't survive in their zone. Back then the zones were already officially being changed. I have a couple of things that I planted as annuals in my zone are now pretty much perennials.

652 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:29:14am

Alrighty then!!

That was a semi-useless errand run

Wifeys sinus prescription, NOT READY
One out of three Red Box movie rental returns,, NOT IN THE CASE
Closest grocery store,, OUT OF WHAT I NEEDED!!

653 sagehen  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:29:19am

re: #644 Kragar

So what did throwing peanuts mean?

uh... um... elephants love peanuts? They were sharing?

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654 wrenchwench  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:29:35am
655 Kragar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:29:59am

re: #649 What Would Spalding Gray Do?

All other countries that do business with Iran would totally stay out of it and not even say anything.

I'm sure none of the other countries in the region, or its allies around the world, would even lift a finger.

656 Decatur Deb  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:31:15am

re: #650 Kragar

RNC Delegate Offended By Presence of ‘Mexican’ At Disney’s Epcot Center

During a trip to Epcot at Disneyworld, Pennsylvania delegate Mark Harris and his wife were shocked and offended to find a Mexican employee working at the amusement park’s American pavilion, which showcases the different cultures in the United States. According to the couple’s blog, Harris complained to staff that he was “highly offended” that a “person from Mexico” was working in the American pavilion when other nations’ pavilions were staffed by people from each respective country:


The Sioux called in sick, and the Menominee was at a midewewin.

657 sagehen  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:32:59am

re: #646 kirkspencer

One of the things I've been using as evidence of global warming that isn't "lying scientists" is the slow migration of maple syrup production. It's got to be the right temperature sequence. If it doesn't get cold enough the starch doesn't get stored but instead continues to be used, and the rising spring sap has far less sugar in it.

For what it's worth, my other informal evidence is garden clubs across the nation, who have been documenting when they could plant, what grew, and so forth for well over a century. Simplistically, the "zones" have shifted half a zone north in that time -- and in some cases it's a full zone. Borderline crops have quit being borderline (and some former standards are now borderline.)

I don't know anybody who grows anything, the evidence I've been using is:

1) ski resorts in the alps investing in snow-making equipment, it's the only way to keep their season the same length as it's always been.

2) Russia expanding port facilities in St Petersburg, because they expect it to be year-round and new routes.

3) The US Navy is building three new icebreakers, and has published on their website their plans to patrol a navigable arctic.

658 Kragar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:33:20am

Romney/Ryan Would Undermine Churches And Faith-Based Charities

Ryan has said local charities and churches should provide for needy communities instead of the federal government. But there is a flaw this plan: churches and faith-based charities, which offer roughly $50 billion worth of services a year to the poor and needy, often depend on government funds to operate. Catholic Charities, for example, is one of the largest charities in America, and gets over half of its operating budget from federal funds.

Yet the Romney/Ryan ticket appears undeterred by this reality. In fact, if Romney followed through on Ryan’s proposed budget and cut the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) by $169 billion, every single church in America would have to come up with an additional $50,000 simply to feed those in need. For many cash-strapped churches, this is an impossible task.

What’s more, the Romney/Ryan budget would likely overburden soup kitchens and food programs by cutting welfare, food stamps and agriculture subsidies by two trillion dollars over the next ten years. These cuts would leave millions of Americans – especially those most in need of assistance – without the means to feed and clothe themselves, and already-overburdened faith-based charities unable to provide for them.

So if congregations and charities can’t provide the care required and Ryan’s government refuses to help, who exactly is the “strong” tasked with stepping in for the “weak”? Ryan isn’t saying.

659 celticdragon  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:33:30am

re: #611 Lidane

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I personally blame giant mutant ants...

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660 jaunte  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:33:44am

re: #650 Kragar

How did all these whiny Europeans get here?
[Link: rockstargop.wordpress.com...]

661 Kragar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:34:22am

re: #659 celticdragon

I personally blame giant mutant ants...

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Them again?

662 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:34:37am

re: #613 Jadewater

Lol. It made American news!

In CANADA WE TAKE MAPLE SYRUP THEFT SERIOUSLY DAMMIT!

Why did I know that was Canada without even clicking the link? WHY MUST CANADIAN STEREOTYPES CONSTANTLY BE PROVED ACCURATE?

663 darthstar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:35:17am

Not the kind of news the empty chair suit Mitt Romney wanted to hear today...

664 dragonfire1981  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:36:21am

re: #650 Kragar

RNC Delegate Offended By Presence of ‘Mexican’ At Disney’s Epcot Center

God, how is that NOT The Onion?

665 Sionainn  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:36:47am

re: #650 Kragar

RNC Delegate Offended By Presence of ‘Mexican’ At Disney’s Epcot Center

Can't wait for Sat to weigh in on this because I was floored that someone would actually say something like this in real life.
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666 Eventual Carrion  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:37:23am

re: #464 sattv4u2

Man complains to police of prostitute price hike
[Link: hosted.ap.org...]

Police in southeast Michigan say a man called to complain that a woman he had agreed to pay for sex unexpectedly increased the price.

CCA???

Guy's got female problems.

667 celticdragon  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:37:29am

re: #661 Kragar

Them again?

Heh! If you will remember, large scale thefts of sugar or molasses was one of the things they were looking for to find the next nest.

One of the best sci fi horror movies out of the 50's, and it stands up pretty damned well today. Still effective and scary.

668 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:38:07am

re: #643 Lidane

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What is damage control, Alex?

669 Decatur Deb  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:38:17am

re: #667 celticdragon

Heh! If you will remember, large scale thefts of sugar or molasses was one of the things they were looking for to find the next nest.

One of the best sci fi horror movies out of the 50's, and it stands up pretty damned well today. Still effective and scary.

Bumped up some great young actors.

670 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:39:00am

re: #650 Kragar

RNC Delegate Offended By Presence of ‘Mexican’ At Disney’s Epcot Center

I saw that one on google news earlier. Yikes. Not really what the RNC needs to hear after "This is how we feed animals." Just bad PR.

671 wrenchwench  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:39:17am
672 Kragar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:39:27am

re: #667 celticdragon

Heh! If you will remember, large scale thefts of sugar or molasses was one of the things they were looking for to find the next nest.

One of the best sci fi horror movies out of the 50's, and it stands up pretty damned well today. Still effective and scary.

It was one of my favorites. Showed it to my kids a few months ago when it was on Netflix.

673 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:39:27am

re: #665 Sionainn

Can't wait for Sat to weigh in on this because I was floored that someone would actually say something like this in real life.
//

{sigh}

Happy?

674 dragonfire1981  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:40:02am

re: #624 Jadewater

It is serious, and could effect the market but there is just something about it being maple syrup that just tickles my funny bone. I'm trying to imagine the people planning the "The Great Canadian Maple Syrup Heist of 2012" and it cracks me up.

"It was late. It was cold. Jacques and I had skipped the hockey game to try and make sure we could pull this off. A strong wind kicked up. I pulled my touque tightly over my head and chugged down the last bit of Moosehead beer from the bottle in my hand. It was quiet, the only sound was some faint Celine Dion music coming from somewhere in the distance.

We quietly pulled up on our toboggans. Using hockey sticks to carefully pry the doors open, we took a look around. Gold eh, sweet brown gold."

675 Sionainn  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:40:13am

re: #673 sattv4u2

{sigh}

Happy?

No.

676 Kragar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:41:07am

re: #674 dragonfire1981

"It was late. It was cold. Jacques and I had skipped the hockey game to try and make sure we could pull this off. A strong wind kicked up. I pulled my touque tightly over my head and chugged down the last bit of Moosehead beer from the bottle in my hand. It was quiet, the only sound was some faint Celine Dion music coming from somewhere in the distance.

We quietly pulled up on our toboggans. Using hockey sticks to carefully pry the doors open, we took a look around. Gold eh, sweet brown gold."

"Let it go Jake, this is Syruptown."

677 celticdragon  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:41:43am

re: #672 Kragar

It was one of my favorites. Showed it to my kids a few months ago when it was on Netflix.

I have it on DVD. My 12 year old kid was trying to shush another kid over visiting while it was on (and being noisy), and told her "This is one of my favorites!"

678 Kronocide  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:42:57am

Go Ahead. Make My Day and Sit In My Chair.

679 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:43:01am

re: #646 kirkspencer

The USDA hardiness zone maps have shifted over the past decade, and here in Northern NJ, we're about a zone higher.

This map shows the creep northward.

[Link: www.arborday.org...]

680 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:43:42am

re: #675 Sionainn

No.

Ah well!

You really should try! Makes life better!

That some dillweed that nobody has ever heard of posts something on his facebook or twitter page doesn't affect my mood

681 Kragar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:44:03am

re: #677 celticdragon

I have it on DVD. My 12 year old kid was trying to shush another kid over visiting while it was on (and being noisy), and told her "This is one of my favorites!"

My daughter had to write an essay for her 4th grade teacher about herself. She listed her favorite movie as "The Longest Day."

682 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:44:38am

re: #671 wrenchwench

That chair is a regular Lincoln log. /Woodsplitters unite!

683 Jadewater  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:45:52am

re: #662 What Would Spalding Gray Do?

Why did I know that was Canada without even clicking the link? WHY MUST CANADIAN STEREOTYPES CONSTANTLY BE PROVED ACCURATE?

At least our stereotypes tend to be pretty innocuous and great humor fodder.
I'm okay with it. lol

684 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:46:17am

re: #658 Kragar

Romney/Ryan Would Undermine Churches And Faith-Based Charities

I'm sure R/R will support the states having an unfunded mandate to set up workhouses to create jobs for these people. Can't have them just sitting around waiting for a handout and voting Democratic.
/// :p

685 Jadewater  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:46:39am

re: #674 dragonfire1981

"It was late. It was cold. Jacques and I had skipped the hockey game to try and make sure we could pull this off. A strong wind kicked up. I pulled my touque tightly over my head and chugged down the last bit of Moosehead beer from the bottle in my hand. It was quiet, the only sound was some faint Celine Dion music coming from somewhere in the distance.

We quietly pulled up on our toboggans. Using hockey sticks to carefully pry the doors open, we took a look around. Gold eh, sweet brown gold."

Oh that's beautiful. lol

686 celticdragon  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:47:27am

re: #681 Kragar

My daughter had to write an essay for her 4th grade teacher about herself. She listed her favorite movie as "The Longest Day."

I heartily approve. :)

687 William of Orange  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:48:38am

Things must have been REALLY bad when even FOXNEWS(!) thinks you're lying too much!

To anyone watching Ryan’s speech who hasn’t been paying much attention to the ins and outs and accusations of the campaign, I suspect Ryan came across as a smart, passionate and all-around nice guy (....)


On the other hand, to anyone paying the slightest bit of attention to facts, Ryan’s speech was an apparent attempt to set the world record for the greatest number of blatant lies and misrepresentations slipped into a single political speech. On this measure, while it was Romney who ran the Olympics, Ryan earned the gold.

Yes, I didn't believe it either but this was actually printed on the site of Foxnews. Roger Ailes must be steaming with anger with this reporter....

Ryan in three words:
Dazzling
Decieving
Distracting.

688 Sionainn  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:50:50am

re: #687 William of Orange

Things must have been REALLY bad when even FOXNEWS(!) thinks you're lying too much!

Yes, I didn't believe it either but this was actually printed on the site of Foxnews. Roger Ailes must be steaming with anger with this reporter....

She's one of Fox's token liberals. My theory is that the FOX PTB just read the first paragraph and said, "That sounds good!" and ran with it.

689 AK-47%  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:52:16am

re: #656 Decatur Deb

During a trip to Epcot at Disneyworld, Pennsylvania delegate Mark Harris and his wife were shocked and offended to find a Mexican employee working at the amusement park’s American pavilion, which showcases the different cultures in the United States. According to the couple’s blog, Harris complained to staff that he was “highly offended” that a “person from Mexico” was working in the American pavilion when other nations’ pavilions were staffed by people from each respective country:

The Sioux called in sick, and the Menominee was at a midewewin.

If he was offended, then he need not ever go badk there again...you know, like boycotting Chick-Fil-A...

690 Eventual Carrion  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:52:36am

re: #546 NJDhockeyfan

They are letting the IAEA go where Iran wants them to go. They are hiding and bulldozing past weapons sites to keep the UN officials from seeing what they are up to.

That statement sounds vaguely familiar. Are they also shipping their WMD's off to Syria? Gassing the Kurds? Throwing babies out of incubators in the hospital? IN THE SHAPE OF A MUSHROOM CLOUD!

691 Eventual Carrion  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:54:32am

re: #550 kirkspencer

Let me be plainer. On full examination the whole argument that the Iranians are building - and are close to - nuclear weapons reeks of the same misdirection of the claim Saddam was building and close to having nuclear weapons in Iraq about a decade ago. There are major issues that aren't there and the constant rebuttal is:

"Well that's because they're hiding them from the inspectors."

Your memory is as bad as mine. And by bad I mean it remembers the hook, line, and sinker used for the last folly.

692 Mattand  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:55:40am

re: #687 William of Orange

Things must have been REALLY bad when even FOXNEWS(!) thinks you're lying too much!

Yes, I didn't believe it either but this was actually printed on the site of Foxnews. Roger Ailes must be steaming with anger with this reporter....

Eh, I'm of the cynical, borderline conspiracy theory-ish opinion that Fox throws in an opposing "liberal" viewpoint now and then, as childish proof they're "fair and balanced."

I wouldn't read too much into it.

693 Renaissance_Man  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 11:07:49am

re: #592 aagcobb

I don't think either Netanyahu or Romney are that stupid. I doubt Romney believes 90% of the shit he says; he is the guy who enacted universal health care first.

No, he didn't. The bizarre thing where everyone is forced to pay private insurance for health care is not 'universal health care'. It's trying desperately to pretend that health care is a 'free market' thing. The fact that it now exists nationwide does not mean America has universal health care.


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