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1 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:32:13pm

Heeee'sss waving at us!!!!!!!!

2 jaunte  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:34:08pm

Futile indeed. I hadn't heard of tree kangaroos before (or don't recall)...

During the late-Miocene the semi-arboreal Rock-wallabies evolved into the now extinct tree-kangaroo genus Bohra.[5] Global cooling during the Pleistocene caused continent wide drying and rainforest retractions in Australia and New Guinea.[6] The rainforest contractions isolated populations of Bohra which resulted in the evolution of today's tree-kangaroos (Dendrolagus spp.) as they adapted to lifestyles in geographically small and diverse rainforest fragments, and became further specialized for a canopy dwelling lifestyle.[7]
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

3 Amory Blaine  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:34:37pm

We Are Sikhs - Poem from the Sikh Temple of Wisconsin

4 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:34:48pm
5 engineer cat  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:36:33pm

he look like a little puddy tat

6 engineer cat  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:41:20pm

this is bexley and his mother kasbeth

i wanna move to australia and go out with a weird aussie girl named kasbeth

7 Gus  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:42:25pm
8 Gus  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:45:17pm

Crap.

[Link: www.daylife.com...]

9 Charles Johnson  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:53:22pm

re: #8 Gus

Crap.

[Link: www.daylife.com...]

Another web service sinks under the waves of capitalism.

10 Gus  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:54:53pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

Another web service sinks under the waves of capitalism.

It's too bad because it was great for searching the latest news photography. Gone for good now.

11 Kragar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:56:48pm

Behold the glorious Hippopotamus

12 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:58:02pm

re: #11 Kragar

Behold the glorious Hippopotamus

[Embedded content]

Awww!

13 Gus  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 6:58:26pm

re: #11 Kragar

Behold the glorious Hippopotamus

[Embedded content]

No way. That for real? Sounded like a weed whacker.

14 jaunte  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:00:51pm

re: #11 Kragar

I like the last audible mom comment: "I think we're done here..."

15 Kragar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:02:31pm

and now... DIVING MONKEYS!

16 Digital Display  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:11:08pm

I dunno know..And I'm so sorry to review my life here.. But I always have.
First off..Big party in Oklahoma Saturday night.. First College Football game of the year..Sure you could find more food and booze somewhere, But really where?
My heart is broken tonight. I'm going to miss my new friends in Oklahoma.
Fuck..2 calls tonight,
It's a local saying.. You..I Love..
Fuck..I've got tears down my cheeks.. I love my friends here..
Sorry to go away

17 abolitionist  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:12:50pm

OT:
Mozilla Security Blog
Protecting Users Against Java Security Vulnerability

Aug 28 2012
Update – Aug 31, 2012

Yesterday Oracle released a patch for the critical vulnerabilities identified within Java.

Visit the Mozilla Plugin Check webpage to find out if your Java plugin needs to be updated

Firefox users can also access the plugin check link built into Firefox. Click Firefox, Options, Options, General, Manage Add-ons. Then click on the link near the top: Check to see if your plugins are up to date

18 Obdicut  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:20:19pm

Has anyone pointed out yet that kangaroo pouches are full of mucus?

19 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:21:35pm

re: #18 Obdicut

Has anyone pointed out yet that kangaroo pouches are full of mucus?

Thanks!

20 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:21:41pm

Sorry, but the dancing twins are cuter.

The joey isn't giggling.

21 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:22:10pm

I'm off for a while

22 Gus  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:25:30pm

Bill Maher just pwned Dinesh D'Souza.

24 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:33:00pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

Another web service sinks under the waves of capitalism.

My local newspaper San Diego Union Tribune paywalled recently. Bullshit. The owner Doug Manchester hates the gays too.

Freetoken? where are you getting your local from?

25 Amory Blaine  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:33:26pm

re: #23 Stanley Sea

Her leg is moving. She's probably dreaming she's running!

26 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:40:48pm

re: #16 Digital Display

*smooch*
You will always have friends, wherever you go!

27 DREd  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:42:51pm

re: #22 Gus

That was brutal. Maher waited 11 years for that.

28 Gus  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:44:25pm

re: #27 DREd

That was brutal. Maher waited 11 years for that.

So I read. Haven't seen it yet.

29 Gus  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:49:38pm

Wingnuts gather: #ObamaHelpedBlacksLike

Must be the full moon.

30 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:52:47pm

Very nice moon rise in So Cal! BLUE MOON!

31 Lidane  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:52:51pm

re: #27 DREd

That was brutal. Maher waited 11 years for that.

What did he say?

32 MittDoesNotCompute  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:53:48pm

re: #24 Stanley Sea

My local newspaper San Diego Union Tribune paywalled recently. Bullshit. The owner Doug Manchester hates the gays too.

Freetoken? where are you getting your local from?

Gannett has put pretty much all of their papers (including the Tennessean, Nashville's only surviving daily) behind a paywall a couple of months ago. $12.00 a month for digital-only access or digital plus delivery of the dead-tree version on Wednesdays and Sundays, with the costs going up from there.

Fuck that...

33 Interesting Times  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 7:57:45pm

re: #22 Gus

Bill Maher just pwned Dinesh D'Souza.

I saw it. Maybe I'm in an especially bad mood, but I thought he was too nice :P (because he didn't bring up this, i.e. D'Souza identifying and sympathizing with the Taliban)

Also, Ron Christie (who was on the panel) is a sniveling, offensive little AGW-denying douche.

34 Kragar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:00:45pm

re: #24 Stanley Sea

My local newspaper San Diego Union Tribune paywalled recently. Bullshit. The owner Doug Manchester hates the gays too.

Freetoken? where are you getting your local from?

Pff, the UT has been a fishwrapper for years.

35 andres  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:06:40pm

Awwww... Cute! :-)

36 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:08:12pm

My employer let me go today. I'm not really surprised, since I specialized in defense conferences and there are none scheduled, and despite my team's best efforts, we weren't able to generate any business this month. Management didn't hate me, and they still respect me, but they don't need me anymore. But my unemployment will not be contested, and I've got co-workers who will give me references when I need them. So I should be able to be back to work before Thanksgiving, if not sooner. I am worried, but not terrified, for I know I did my utmost and only failed in not being able to climb a mountain no one could climb. My father understood what had happened and is supportive.

And any persons at other blogs intending to twist this statement or mock me should lay aside that intention. Jobs change but I leave this one a better man than when I arrive and with some real accomplishments to my credit. I hold my head high, and any haters will be ignored.

37 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:09:02pm

re: #36 Dark_Falcon

My employer let me go today. I'm not really surprised, since I specialized in defense conferences and there are none scheduled, and despite my team's best efforts, we weren't able to generate any business this month. Management didn't hate me, and they still respect me, but they don't need me anymore. But my unemployment will not be contested, and I've got co-workers who will give me references when I need them. So I should be able to be back to work before Thanksgiving, if not sooner. I am worried, but not terrified, for I know I did my utmost and only failed in not being able to climb a mountain no one could climb. My father understood what had happened and is supportive.

And any persons at other blogs intending to twist this statement or mock me should lay aside that intention. Jobs change but I leave this one a better man than when I arrive and with some real accomplishments to my credit. I hold my head high, and any haters will be ignored.

I'm sorry to hear that.

38 blueraven  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:10:57pm

So sorry to hear D_F. Hope you find a much better job soon!

39 austin_blue  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:11:13pm

re: #36 Dark_Falcon

My employer let me go today. I'm not really surprised, since I specialized in defense conferences and there are none scheduled, and despite my team's best efforts, we weren't able to generate any business this month. Management didn't hate me, and they still respect me, but they don't need me anymore. But my unemployment will not be contested, and I've got co-workers who will give me references when I need them. So I should be able to be back to work before Thanksgiving, if not sooner. I am worried, but not terrified, for I know I did my utmost and only failed in not being able to climb a mountain no one could climb. My father understood what had happened and is supportive.

And any persons at other blogs intending to twist this statement or mock me should lay aside that intention. Jobs change but I leave this one a better man than when I arrive and with some real accomplishments to my credit. I hold my head high, and any haters will be ignored.

Hang in there, DF. Things are definitely improving, and you've got a resume

40 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:13:14pm

re: #36 Dark_Falcon

Sounds like a good time to get certified as a High School history teacher :)

Good luck with whatever comes your way, DF.

41 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:14:20pm

re: #36 Dark_Falcon

Good workers are VERY hard to find. You are a good worker, and I hope that you find a better opportunity quickly!
(((DF)))

42 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:14:43pm

re: #37 Mostly sane, most of the time.

I'm sorry to hear that.

With both a member of my team and my sister facing surgery for serious conditions at the start of this month, I prayed that they should receive any good fortune intended for me so that they could get through their surgeries and recover. I feel that God answered my prayers, as they both got through fine and are now on the mend. So if the price for their being OK was that I ended up losing my job, then I consider the price fair.

43 Gus  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:15:10pm

re: #36 Dark_Falcon

My employer let me go today. I'm not really surprised, since I specialized in defense conferences and there are none scheduled, and despite my team's best efforts, we weren't able to generate any business this month. Management didn't hate me, and they still respect me, but they don't need me anymore. But my unemployment will not be contested, and I've got co-workers who will give me references when I need them. So I should be able to be back to work before Thanksgiving, if not sooner. I am worried, but not terrified, for I know I did my utmost and only failed in not being able to climb a mountain no one could climb. My father understood what had happened and is supportive.

And any persons at other blogs intending to twist this statement or mock me should lay aside that intention. Jobs change but I leave this one a better man than when I arrive and with some real accomplishments to my credit. I hold my head high, and any haters will be ignored.

I think you're more than smart enough to find a successful outcome of this.

44 freetoken  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:19:42pm

re: #24 Stanley Sea

Manchester is a right wing nut, and he's taken the UT there.

I just use Yahoo for the local news aggregation.

45 blueraven  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:21:17pm

re: #42 Dark_Falcon

With both a member of my team and my sister facing surgery for serious conditions at the start of this month, I prayed that they should receive any good fortune intended for me so that they could get through their surgeries and recover. I feel that God answered my prayers, as they both got through fine and are now on the mend. So if the price for their being OK was that I ended up losing my job, then I consider the price fair.

I am not big on religion, but I dont think God operates like that.

46 Mocking Jay  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:28:47pm

"I could never wrap my head around why the world and the President that Republicans describe bears so little resemblance to the world and the President that I experience, and now I know why.

There is a President Obama that only Republicans can see."

Jon Stewart

47 andres  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:31:52pm

re: #36 Dark_Falcon

Sorry to hear that. May a good job find you soon.

re: #42 Dark_Falcon

With both a member of my team and my sister facing surgery for serious conditions at the start of this month, I prayed that they should receive any good fortune intended for me so that they could get through their surgeries and recover. I feel that God answered my prayers, as they both got through fine and are now on the mend. So if the price for their being OK was that I ended up losing my job, then I consider the price fair.

May their surgeries be successful, and their recoveries swift. My best wishes to all of you.

This is the measure of a great man, D_F. Whatever disagreements we might have, know that you have my respect.

48 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:32:19pm

re: #45 blueraven

I am not big on religion, but I dont think God operates like that.

Maybe not, but I was more concerned with the lives and health of those who I care about than how well I sold a product. I still did my level best selling this month but if things had to go wrong for me this month, I'm glad I only lost my job instead of losing a sister or a friend.

49 andres  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:33:20pm

re: #45 blueraven

I am not big on religion, but I dont think God operates like that.

"God works in mysterious ways."

50 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:33:35pm

re: #47 andres

Sorry to hear that. May a good job find you soon.

re: #42 Dark_Falcon

May their surgeries be successful, and their recoveries swift. My best wishes to all of you.

This is the measure of a great man, D_F. Whatever disagreements we might have, know that you have my respect.

Both surgeries successful, and their recoveries, though still in progress, go well.

51 CuriousLurker  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:35:39pm

re: #36 Dark_Falcon

Sorry to hear about your job loss {{D_F}}. Keep the faith, you'll find something better.

52 CuriousLurker  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:37:29pm

re: #8 Gus

Crap.

[Link: www.daylife.com...]

Aw, man. Alouette's gonna be disappointed—it'll be a lot harder to find SJS now.

53 Gus  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:37:59pm

re: #52 CuriousLurker

Aw, man. Alouette's gonna be disappointed—it'll be a lot harder to find SJS now.

Or SBS.

54 Interesting Times  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:38:18pm

Win:

55 Gus  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:42:24pm

I was going to say. About religion. I try not to analyze much what other people believe. They have a right to privacy. I wouldn't question them in as such I wouldn't want to be questioned about my non-belief. Neither would I question them.

56 Gus  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:42:35pm

I'm gonna forgive Clint.

57 Gus  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:42:46pm

[Throws rock into creek.]

58 CuriousLurker  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:43:22pm

re: #55 Gus

I was going to say. About religion. I try not to analyze much what other people believe. They have a right to privacy. I wouldn't question them in as such I wouldn't want to be questioned about my non-belief. Neither would I question them.

Sounds good to me.

59 Mich-again  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:43:56pm

re: #36 Dark_Falcon

Well good luck and I hope things get back to normal soon. I know there are a lot of jobs for project managers and engineers around here. Turns out that domestic high tech manufacturing can be more profitable than off-shoring.

60 Interesting Times  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:44:49pm

re: #56 Gus

I'm gonna forgive Clint.

I'm telling myself he was a secret Soros plant all along ;)

61 Gus  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:44:59pm

re: #58 CuriousLurker

Sounds good to me.

Life is complicated enough.

62 Obdicut  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:45:28pm

re: #56 Gus

If we hold actors to high standards of behavior, we'll have very boring actors.

I mean, this guy rules:

Image: a3517dbbcc5a4a11bfa4c6b77f6e5215.jpg

and has done tons of fucked-up shit.

63 andres  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:45:34pm

re: #56 Gus

I'm gonna forgive Clint.

Chair up, mate!

// ducks for such a lame pune...

64 Gus  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:46:34pm

re: #63 andres

Chair up, mate!

// ducks for such a lame pune...

Throws chair in the room and starts shooting!

POW! POW! POW!

Anyone seen... him?

65 Gus  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:47:54pm

re: #62 Obdicut

If we hold actors to high standards of behavior, we'll have very boring actors.

I mean, this guy rules:

Image: a3517dbbcc5a4a11bfa4c6b77f6e5215.jpg

and has done tons of fucked-up shit.

Yes. We're all sinners.

66 Obdicut  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:48:09pm

re: #63 andres

Chair up, mate!

// ducks for such a lame pune...

I think you stool that joke from somewhere.

67 Lidane  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:48:33pm

re: #46 Mocking Jay

"I could never wrap my head around why the world and the President that Republicans describe bears so little resemblance to the world and the President that I experience, and now I know why.

There is a President Obama that only Republicans can see."

Jon Stewart

Yeah. It definitely explained a lot.

68 Gus  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:48:46pm

re: #66 Obdicut

I think you stool that joke from somewhere.

I'm going to sit in the love seat.
-- Dick Morris

69 Lidane  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:50:11pm

re: #62 Obdicut

If we hold actors to high standards of behavior, we'll have very boring actors.

I mean, this guy rules:

Image: a3517dbbcc5a4a11bfa4c6b77f6e5215.jpg

and has done tons of fucked-up shit.

That guy is living proof that no matter how much stupid and/or fucked up shit you do in your life, there's always a way out. I have a ton of respect for him both as an actor and a human being.

70 Obdicut  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:50:17pm

re: #68 Gus

I'm going to sit in the love seat.
-- Dick Morris

I'm trying to work 'antimacassar' into a joke and it's just not working.

71 Interesting Times  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:51:00pm

Did Todd Akin start this hashtag? o_O

# ReplaceBandNamesWithRape (yes, I deliberately broke the auto-link to it because ewww)

72 Gus  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:51:27pm

re: #70 Obdicut

I'm trying to work 'antimacassar' into a joke and it's just not working.

73 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:52:02pm

re: #67 Lidane

Yeah. It definitely explained a lot.

There was also a George W. Bush that only those who hated him could see. I think this is common with president or anyone else who attracts haters.

74 Mich-again  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:52:07pm

re: #55 Gus

I was going to say. About religion. I try not to analyze much what other people believe. They have a right to privacy.

The best way to evangelize your faith is to just live the example and not even talk about religion. Good examples inspire others more than words ever could.

75 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:52:27pm

re: #69 Lidane

That guy is living proof that no matter how much stupid and/or fucked up shit you do in your life, there's always a way out. I have a ton of respect for him both as an actor and a human being.

He's had some good laughs at himself, too.

My favorite is: "I'm allergic to alcohol. I break out in handcuffs."

76 Interesting Times  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:53:49pm

re: #72 Gus

[Embedded content]

♫ Sending love tweets
From the love seat
Love tweets, bay-beee
Love tweets, baby! ♫

77 Mich-again  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:55:03pm

re: #69 Lidane

That guy is living proof that no matter how much stupid and/or fucked up shit you do in your life, there's always a way out. I have a ton of respect for him both as an actor and a human being.

I was glad to find out you weren't defending Gary Busey. Because that guy is f*ed up.

78 Gus  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:55:29pm

re: #76 Interesting Times

♫ Sending love tweets
From the love seat
Love tweets, bay-beee
Love tweets, baby! ♫

Poor Dick. He was really good in the Clinton years. Now he's washed up.

79 Gus  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:55:48pm

pros·e·lyt·ize/ˈpräsələˌtīz/
Verb:

Convert or attempt to convert (someone) from one religion, belief, or opinion to another.
Advocate or promote (a belief or course of action): "Davis wanted to proselytize his ideas".

80 Lidane  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:56:01pm

re: #75 Mostly sane, most of the time.

He's had some good laughs at himself, too.

My favorite is: "I'm allergic to alcohol. I break out in handcuffs."

I actually added one of his quotes to my FB profile: "Listen, smile, agree, and then do whatever the fuck you were gonna do anyway."

I think it's good advice. :)

81 Lidane  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:58:34pm

re: #77 Mich-again

I was glad to find out you weren't defending Gary Busey. Because that guy is f*ed up.

Gary Busey is absolutely bugfuck insane. I don't care what he says, he's not sober, or if he is, whatever he took fried his brain permanently.

Robert Downey Jr., OTOH, has not only revived his career, but I think he's a better actor now and a much cooler person than he ever was back in the 80's and 90's. It's amazing what can happen when someone hits bottom and claws their way back out again.

82 Gus  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 8:59:53pm
83 Gus  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:00:25pm

[Dance beat.]

84 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:02:11pm

re: #65 Gus

Yes. We're all sinners.

Shouldn't that be, "we are all sitters"?

85 Mich-again  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:03:03pm

@DickMorrisTweet:

I'll be love tweeting tonight with my thoughts on the convention. #GOP2012

Dick will be love tweeting with his thoughts tonight. Thanks for the warning.

86 Gus  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:03:26pm

I remember getting into a squabble when I posted Leonard Nimoy's "Shekhina" exhibition.

87 Gus  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:04:16pm

re: #84 William Barnett-Lewis

Shouldn't that be, "we are all sitters"?

I am not my brother's sitter.

88 blueraven  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:05:00pm

re: #81 Lidane

Gary Busey is absolutely bugfuck insane. I don't care what he says, he's not sober, or if he is, whatever he took fried his brain permanently.

Robert Downey Jr., OTOH, has not only revived his career, but I think he's a better actor now and a much cooler person than he ever was back in the 80's and 90's. It's amazing what can happen when someone hits bottom and claws their way back out again.

I am always amazed at how many movies he has managed considering all his issues with drugs.
One of my favorites is a somewhat overlooked movie about redemption
Restoration

He is simply, one of the best.

89 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:07:51pm

re: #36 Dark_Falcon

My employer let me go today. I'm not really surprised, since I specialized in defense conferences and there are none scheduled, and despite my team's best efforts, we weren't able to generate any business this month. Management didn't hate me, and they still respect me, but they don't need me anymore. But my unemployment will not be contested, and I've got co-workers who will give me references when I need them. So I should be able to be back to work before Thanksgiving, if not sooner. I am worried, but not terrified, for I know I did my utmost and only failed in not being able to climb a mountain no one could climb. My father understood what had happened and is supportive.

And any persons at other blogs intending to twist this statement or mock me should lay aside that intention. Jobs change but I leave this one a better man than when I arrive and with some real accomplishments to my credit. I hold my head high, and any haters will be ignored.

Hang in D_F. Onward, upward and all that. Best wishes.

90 Gus  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:08:03pm
91 Gus  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:11:12pm
92 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:12:08pm

re: #62 Obdicut

If we hold actors to high standards of behavior, we'll have very boring actors.

I mean, this guy rules:

Image: a3517dbbcc5a4a11bfa4c6b77f6e5215.jpg

and has done tons of fucked-up shit.

Judge, I have a gun in my mouth, and I love the taste of metal. (paraphrasing, but fuck, that was insane.)

93 Interesting Times  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:12:38pm

re: #86 Gus

I remember getting into a squabble when I posted Leonard Nimoy's "Shekhina" exhibition.

Nice to see alternatives to the Barbie-Doll-balloon-boob figures of the corporate modelling industry.

94 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:13:34pm

re: #70 Obdicut

I'm trying to work 'antimacassar' into a joke and it's just not working.

Cossack, er footstool, should work somehow.

95 freetoken  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:22:54pm

re: #86 Gus

I remember getting into a squabble when I posted Leonard Nimoy's "Shekhina" exhibition.

Leonard Nimoy, who Jonah Goldberg calls a maker of "pornography", because of those nudes - which pretty much says all one needs to about Goldberg (and NR).

96 freetoken  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:25:45pm

re: #88 blueraven

One of my favorites is a somewhat overlooked movie about redemption
Restoration

I liked that movie quite a bit, and thought it was under-viewed. But it came out at a time when Sense and Sensibility stole the show, for those who would go to a movie of a drama set previous centuries. While the latter is a great movie in its own right, I thought Restoration was more arty and fun.

97 Gus  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:28:05pm

re: #95 freetoken

Leonard Nimoy, who Jonah Goldberg calls a maker of "pornography", because of those nudes - which pretty much says all one needs to about Goldberg (and NR).

Yet they're all excited about Jenna Jameson allegedly endorsing Mitt Romney? What gives? Is she punking them? I know there's a lot of closet cases on the right.

98 abolitionist  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:29:31pm

re: #81 Lidane

Gary Busey is absolutely bugfuck insane. I don't care what he says, he's not sober, or if he is, whatever he took fried his brain permanently.[snip]

I have to admit, he did alright by Buddy Holly. And a performance art video from a few years ago on the subject of greenhouse gas emissions was hilarious. (IIRC he was peddling butt plugs for livestock to rural farmers, and offering free demos.) As for his brain, some reports of a motorcycle accident involving a curb may be relevent.

99 freetoken  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:30:55pm

One thing about Restoration which I remember is the quality of the film, by which I mean the actual film medium. The choice of film stock really showed off well the colorful set and clothes, and the techniques of photography and reproduction, in an era before all-digital movies made it one of the cleanest and richest of viewing experiences in a non-animation film.

100 freetoken  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:33:27pm

re: #97 Gus

Yet they're all excited about Jenna Jameson allegedly endorsing Mitt Romney? What gives? Is she punking them? I know there's a lot of closet cases on the right.

Perhaps.

And yes, there are lots and lots of closets in the GOP mansion.

101 freetoken  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:34:01pm
102 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:38:44pm

re: #36 Dark_Falcon

My employer let me go today. I'm not really surprised, since I specialized in defense conferences and there are none scheduled, and despite my team's best efforts, we weren't able to generate any business this month. Management didn't hate me, and they still respect me, but they don't need me anymore. But my unemployment will not be contested, and I've got co-workers who will give me references when I need them. So I should be able to be back to work before Thanksgiving, if not sooner. I am worried, but not terrified, for I know I did my utmost and only failed in not being able to climb a mountain no one could climb. My father understood what had happened and is supportive.

And any persons at other blogs intending to twist this statement or mock me should lay aside that intention. Jobs change but I leave this one a better man than when I arrive and with some real accomplishments to my credit. I hold my head high, and any haters will be ignored.

I'm so sorry.

103 Mich-again  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:38:56pm

re: #101 freetoken

"When you're rich, you want a Republican in office."

Fill in the skank..
"When you enjoy getting _____ at work you want a Republican in office..

104 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:40:02pm

re: #50 Dark_Falcon

Both surgeries successful, and their recoveries, though still in progress, go well.

Thank God for that. Let it give you strength as you sort the job thing out.

105 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:40:44pm

re: #56 Gus

I'm gonna forgive Clint.

I don't feel I have anything to forgive Clint for. He was the best thing at the convention.

106 Kragar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:43:28pm

re: #103 Mich-again

Fill in the skank..
"When you enjoy getting _____ at work you want a Republican in office..

"When you enjoy dying off as a species, you want a Republican in office."

107 Gus  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:45:17pm

re: #105 SanFranciscoZionist

I don't feel I have anything to forgive Clint for. He was the best thing at the convention.

I know one thing. His skit was the only thing I heard of this convention.

108 MittDoesNotCompute  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:46:48pm

re: #105 SanFranciscoZionist

I don't feel I have anything to forgive Clint for. He was the best thing at the convention.

re: #107 Gus

I know one thing. His skit was the only thing I heard of this convention.

Seeing as Clint stole the show at the RNC, Mitt is well and truly boned.

Good.

109 Mich-again  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:48:52pm

re: #105 SanFranciscoZionist

I don't feel I have anything to forgive Clint for. He was the best thing at the convention.

No doubt. Funny that I thought it would be the Paul delegates who would disrupt the show. Who would have thunk the VIP that Mitt invited would derail the train.

110 Mich-again  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:51:22pm

re: #106 Kragar

"When you enjoy dying off as a species, you want a Republican in office."

black lung, no health care, pink slips, harassed by the boss, no pension...

111 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:53:16pm

re: #108 Gert Fröbe

re: #107 Gus

Seeing that Clint stole the show at the RNC, Mitt is well and truly boned.

Good.

Well, he's Clint Eastwood. He's a hard act to follow.

112 dragonath  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:57:07pm

re: #86 Gus

I remember getting into a squabble when I posted Leonard Nimoy's "Shekhina" exhibition.

Leonard Nimoy's into some weird stuff. He was the narrator for this game:

113 Gus  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 9:59:06pm

re: #111 SanFranciscoZionist

Well, he's Clint Eastwood. He's a hard act to follow.

I do know that Bill signed off on the DOMA. I just watch and eat popcorn mostly.

114 Kragar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:01:30pm

re: #110 Mich-again

black lung, no health care, pink slips, harassed by the boss, no pension...

poisoned water supplies, no regulation to protect environments, no plan for global warming...

115 freetoken  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:02:28pm

For tonight's entertainment, we present one of the old warhorses of music, Tchaikovsky's 4th symphony, the last two parts, which really ought to be listened one after another to appreciate both:


(note that you'll have to turn up the volume - in using iTunes I have to add a 9 db gain via the equalizer)

This is from an old recording, but one considered highly. The conductor was Wilhem Furtwangler, an icon of sorts among classical music fans.

116 Lidane  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:03:22pm

re: #105 SanFranciscoZionist

I don't feel I have anything to forgive Clint for. He was the best thing at the convention.

What's to forgive? Clint's rambling weirdness didn't personally affect me. If anything, it's the only takeaway from the RNC that I'll remember, apart from Paul Ryan being a liar and the socons and Paulians flipping their shit about delegate rule changes.

117 Gus  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:03:57pm
118 jaunte  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:05:48pm

Just saw an ad for Clint Eastwood's new movie "Trouble with the Curve."

Right after Jon Stewart's Daily Show segment talking about his RNC convention performance (The Old man and the Seat).

119 Lidane  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:11:46pm

re: #108 Gert Fröbe

Seeing as Clint stole the show at the RNC, Mitt is well and truly boned.

Good.

Romney HQ has to be pissed and spitting nails about that. Mitt has been running for POTUS for the better part of the decade and when he finally gets to accept his party's nomination, the only thing anyone can talk about is Clint Eastwood yelling at an empty chair.

He should be the center of attention coming out of the RNC and into the DNC, but it's all about Invisible Obama and Old Man Yells At Chair. That has to suck.

120 Mich-again  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:14:10pm

re: #117 Gus

So many great songs from them and this one is right up there, the best video for sure. The Wasting Light CD is incredible from beginning to end. They just keep getting better.

121 Kragar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:16:18pm

Fun fact: A scrapping tool which rolls off a table and falls appx 3 feet has got the ability to puncture the skin on the top of the foot.

122 freetoken  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:17:55pm

re: #121 Kragar

You'd be the right person to ask this: do you know of a relatively inexpensive source for a kit of riffler files?

123 jaunte  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:19:37pm

re: #121 Kragar

I was once a modeler, before I took an X-acto to the knee.

124 freetoken  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:20:05pm

Per Paul Ryan's analysis of Mitt's iPod, here is some music for said iPod - Mantovani at his mostest over the toppest:

125 Kragar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:22:05pm

re: #122 freetoken

You'd be the right person to ask this: do you know of a relatively inexpensive source for a kit of riffler files?

I actually get my files from a guy at a swap meet up in L.A. most of the time.

126 freetoken  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:25:07pm

re: #125 Kragar

I actually get my files from a guy at a swap meet up in L.A. most of the time.

Ok... so you trade in stolen goods... a good idea for me to save some money. RioGrande wants $120 for a set of 6 German made riffler files.

127 Mich-again  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:26:19pm

re: #121 Kragar

Fun fact: A scrapping tool which rolls off a table and falls appx 3 feet has got the ability to puncture the skin on the top of the foot.

Well a 3' free fall means it took about 0.4 seconds during which time the tool accelerated to a velocity of about 15 feet per second which is oh about 15 mph. so yeah if it had a sharp edge it would have enough momentum to puncture skin.

128 Kragar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:32:22pm

re: #127 Mich-again

Well a 3' free fall means it took about 0.4 seconds during which time the tool accelerated to a velocity of about 15 feet per second which is oh about 15 mph. so yeah if it had a sharp edge it would have enough momentum to puncture skin.

Image: 16709.jpg

only heavier with a rubber grip.

129 simoom  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:38:18pm

Paul Ryan claims in a Hugh Hewitt interview to have run a sub-three hour marathon. Running enthusiasts were extremely skeptical, and it turns out they were right to be:

[Link: www.hughhewitt.com...]

My interview with Paul Ryan today was brief and interrupted cell phone failure, but interesting nonetheless.

...

I was also surprised to hear Ryan has run a sub-3 hour marathon. Add another interest group to the list of groups like Catholics, hunters and Miami of Ohio grads who are going to connect easily with this candidate.

...

HH: Are you still running?
PR: Yeah, I hurt a disc in my back, so I don’t run marathons anymore. I just run ten miles or yes.
HH: But you did run marathons at some point?
PR: Yeah, but I can’t do it anymore, because my back is just not that great.
HH: I’ve just gotta ask, what’s your personal best?
PR: Under three, high twos. I had a two hour and fifty-something.
HH: Holy smokes. All right, now you go down to Miami University…
PR: I was fast when I was younger, yeah.

[Link: news.runnersworld.com...]

Runner's World has been unable to find any marathon results by Ryan. Requests for more information from Ryan's Washington and Wisconsin offices, and from the Romney-Ryan campaign, have so far gone unanswered.

If Ryan has broken 3:00, he'd be the fastest marathoner to be on a national ticket.

...

In an e-mail to Runner's World last night, Tom Derderian, author of Boston Marathon, said, "It is very hard to prove a negative, but in doing my research I read every account in every newspaper about the Boston Marathon. I would have seen and noted that a US Senator ran."

And then:

Updated 7:20 pm
A spokesman for the Romney-Ryan campaign e-mailed Runner's World today to say Ryan ran Grandma's Marathon in Duluth, Minnesota, while a college student in 1991.

...

Ryan's name does not show up in the 1991 race results provided by Grandma's. Runner's World checked 11 years of results for Grandma's Marathon, from 1988 through 1998, and found a finisher in the 1990 race by the name of Paul D. Ryan, 20, of Minneapolis.

Ryan's middle name is Davis, and he was 20 in 1990. The finishing time listed was 4 hours, 1 minute and 25 seconds.

We are awaiting confirmation from the Ryan camp that the vice presidential nominee is the Paul D. Ryan listed in the race results – and, if he is, whether he ran any other marathons faster than 4:01:25.

And finally, they fessed up:

Updated 12:29 am
It turns out Paul Ryan has not run a marathon in less than three hours—or even less than four hours.

...

In a statement issued to Runner's World by a spokesman Friday night, Ryan said of his marathon experience:

"The race was more than 20 years ago, but my brother Tobin—who ran Boston last year—reminds me that he is the owner of the fastest marathon in the family and has never himself ran a sub-three. If I were to do any rounding, it would certainly be to four hours, not three. He gave me a good ribbing over this at dinner tonight."

130 jaunte  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:43:00pm

re: #129 simoom

HH: I’ve just gotta ask, what’s your personal best?
PR: Under three, high twos. I had a two hour and fifty-something.

Maybe he was thinking of Romney's record for holding a position.

131 freetoken  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:44:26pm

re: #129 simoom

Remember, the campaign is not about fact-checking.

132 Kragar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:47:33pm

re: #129 simoom

Paul Ryan claims in a Hugh Hewitt interview to have run a sub-three hour marathon. Running enthusiasts were extremely skeptical, and it turns out they were right to be:

[Link: www.hughhewitt.com...]

[Link: news.runnersworld.com...]

And then:

And finally, they fessed up:

"I ran a marathon in 3 hours! Can you believe it?"
"Not really."
"Would you believe 4 hours?"
"um, no."
"Would you believe I once strolled at a quick pace?"

133 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:47:39pm

re: #129 simoom

Paul Ryan claims in a Hugh Hewitt interview to have run a sub-three hour marathon. Running enthusiasts were extremely skeptical, and it turns out they were right to be:

[Link: www.hughhewitt.com...]

[Link: news.runnersworld.com...]

And then:

And finally, they fessed up:

Not that I really care but what's the point in fudging the numbers. I don't think anyone is going to think any less of him for running a marathon in four hours. I can't ever imagine running one and I'd be saying that if I didn't have a heart condition.

134 blueraven  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:49:50pm

re: #129 simoom

Paul Ryan claims in a Hugh Hewitt interview to have run a sub-three hour marathon. Running enthusiasts were extremely skeptical, and it turns out they were right to be:

[Link: www.hughhewitt.com...]

[Link: news.runnersworld.com...]

And then:

And finally, they fessed up:

Natural born liar I guess.
Why? Why would anyone lie on national TV or radio, especially in this day of instantly available info, and about something so trivial?

Compulsive maybe.

135 jaunte  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:51:30pm

re: #133 HappyWarrior

Character.

136 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 10:57:55pm

re: #135 jaunte

Character.

Yeah, I can see that. I've read why he likes to keep in top physical shape. Having heart problems in my own gene pool, I can't blame him.

137 freetoken  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 11:05:00pm

re: #135 jaunte

Character.

138 simoom  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 11:07:16pm

Romney has a history of pointless & trivial fibs as well. For example:

[Link: blog.thephoenix.com...]

Earlier this week Red Sox season-ticket holder Mitt Romney gave a national network interview at Fenway Park. This led someone to bring to my attention that Romney, who was governor at the time, was there at Fenway Park for the historic championship-clinching Game 4 of the 2004 World Series. Or at least, he told an Air Force pilot he was:

When he told me he was Massachusett's governor, I politely asked him to leave the flight deck, declaring the cockpit off limits to all Red Sox fans. He laughed and made a few cracks my way, regarding the Yanks, and we hit it off pretty well. I asked him if he was at Fenway when the Sox finally won the World Series, and with a huge boyish grin he replied, "Yes I was."

No, he wasn't. I could go to a lot of trouble proving to you that Romney was actually in New Hampshire campaigning for George W. Bush that day, but it doesn't really matter because -- as every New Englander has been screaming while reading this post -- Game 4 was played at Busch Stadium in St. Louis, Missouri.

...

If you haven't seen the brilliant Woody Allen film, Zelig is so desperate to fit in, he physically transforms to match the people he is around at a given time.

Romney is helplessly addicted to this type of lying, often trivial, sometimes not. I've witnessed it myself many times, and former Romney aides have expressed their frustration about it to me.

And:

Suddenly, a heavyset man wearing a bright-orange cap entered the room. “Mr. Romney,” he called out. “Eric Orff—I’m a hunter.” It was a potentially awkward moment. Earlier this year, Romney claimed that he’d “been a hunter pretty much all my life.” A few days later, he said in a statement, “I’ve hunted small game numerous times.” Four days after that, Romney told W. Gardner Selby, of the Austin American-Statesman, “Any description of my being a hunter is an overstatement of capability.”

Still, he couldn’t resist. “You’re a hunter?” he said to Orff. “Well, same here. Good to see ya.”

139 Mentis Fugit  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 11:09:05pm

re: #70 Obdicut

I'm trying to work 'antimacassar' into a joke and it's just not working.

You Ottoman-age it somehow.

140 Kragar  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 11:11:56pm

Cool, the sequel to John dies at the end comes out in a month.

This Book Is Full of Spiders: Seriously, Dude, Don't Touch It

141 HappyWarrior  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 11:13:08pm

re: #138 simoom

Romney has a history of pointless & trivial fibs as well. For example:

[Link: blog.thephoenix.com...]

No, he wasn't. I could go to a lot of trouble proving to you that Romney was actually in New Hampshire campaigning for George W. Bush that day, but it doesn't really matter because -- as every New Englander has been screaming while reading this post -- Game 4 was played at Busch Stadium in St. Louis, Missouri.

...

If you haven't seen the brilliant Woody Allen film, Zelig is so desperate to fit in, he physically transforms to match the people he is around at a given time.

Romney is helplessly addicted to this type of lying, often trivial, sometimes not. I've witnessed it myself many times, and former Romney aides have expressed their frustration about it to me.

And:

Easier to say you were at the most important baseball game the home state team has had in over 90 years than admitting you were campaigning for a guy who was not just unpopular in your state but also who your party runs away from. I just don't get the point of bsing like this when it's so easy to verify otherwise. I mean as I said about Ryan, no one outside a total dick is going to think any less of him for not running a marathon in the short length he claimed he did.

142 researchok  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 11:17:32pm

re: #115 freetoken

Thank you.

I'm going to get an early start.

143 AK-47%  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 11:27:44pm

re: #101 freetoken

"When you're rich, you want a Republican in office."

Yunno, a lot of gays are financially well off: without a family to derail their careers, without the necessary investment in diapers, kids' clothing, mortgage on that four-bedroom home in a neighborhood with good schools, and college funds, they have a lot more potential to amass reasonable fortunes by investing.

All of which should make them a lot more amenable to the GOP's low-tax, small government approach.

Except for the fact that the GOP sees them as hideous abominations under God and a threat to the moral fabric of our nation.

It's the GOP's loss in the end...

144 researchok  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 11:33:10pm

re: #115 freetoken

The word 'rousing finish' come to mind.

Good choice-and a pretty good recording given when it was made.

145 researchok  Fri, Aug 31, 2012 11:43:36pm

re: #124 freetoken

I was hoping for something a bit more dramatic.
/

146 freetoken  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 12:06:40am

re: #145 researchok

I was hoping for something a bit more dramatic.

147 Kragar  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 12:12:23am

re: #145 researchok

I was hoping for something a bit more dramatic.
/

Fiona Apple Sally's Song

148 Kragar  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 12:15:57am

David Bowie & The Arcade Fire - Wake Up

149 Kragar  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 12:37:17am

OK Go - Needing/Getting

150 EdDantes  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 12:39:05am

My first post of September. I was born in a cardboard box. My mom wanted kittens.

151 researchok  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 12:41:14am

re: #150 EdDantes

I was born in Peru

My mom wanted a parakeet.

152 Kragar  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 12:42:20am

re: #150 EdDantes

My first post of September. I was born in a cardboard box. My mom wanted kittens.

You reminded me of one of my favorite movie scenes

153 researchok  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 12:43:24am

re: #151 researchok

My brother was born in the middle east.

She wanted falafal

154 EdDantes  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 12:50:15am

re: #152 Kragar

Damned Dantes!

155 sagehen  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 2:10:05am

re: #143 Expand Your Ground

Yunno, a lot of gays are financially well off: without a family to derail their careers, without the necessary investment in diapers, kids' clothing, mortgage on that four-bedroom home in a neighborhood with good schools, and college funds, they have a lot more potential to amass reasonable fortunes by investing.

All of which should make them a lot more amenable to the GOP's low-tax, small government approach.

Except for the fact that the GOP sees them as hideous abominations under God and a threat to the moral fabric of our nation.

It's the GOP's loss in the end...

Same for ethnic minorities.

There's a metric fuckton of conservative black people in this country -- neocon in their foreign policy outlook, anti-regulation, anti-tax, anti-abortion, pro-gun. They'd love to be able to vote for the party that agrees with them on these issues, but voter suppression is the dealbreaker. So we end up with Mitt Romney's share of the black vote being less than the poll's margin of error.

With Hispanics, it's demands to carry your birth certificate with you at all times, be prepared to repeatedly prove you have a right to exist in this space... and by the way, we're going to deport your mother. Not a winning argument.

156 freetoken  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 3:30:23am
157 BongCrodny  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 3:44:25am

re: #118 jaunte

Just saw an ad for Clint Eastwood's new movie "Trouble with the Curve."

Given their problems with women, that could be the motto of the Republican Party.

158 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 4:45:11am

re: #155 sagehen

I'm going to disagree on the matter of black people, at least this time around. They'd vote for Obama no matter how welcoming the GOP was to them, since he is a source of (justifiable) pride for them.

159 Obdicut  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 4:54:04am

re: #158 Dark_Falcon

Stupid as fuck, Dark. Why the hell do you think:

A) You can generalize about the politics of black people

B) You can generalize about the emotions of black people.


Hell, if the GOP were more welcoming of black people, they might have a (non-kooky) black candidate.

160 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 4:58:24am

re: #159 Obdicut

Stupid as fuck, Dark. Why the hell do you think:

A) You can generalize about the politics of black people

B) You can generalize about the emotions of black people.

Hell, if the GOP were more welcoming of black people, they might have a (non-kooky) black candidate.

Yea. That has worked in the past. Promises, promises.

161 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 4:58:55am

And.... Good morning Honcos.

162 McSpiff  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 5:01:05am

re: #158 Dark_Falcon

I'm going to disagree on the matter of black people, at least this time around. They'd vote for Obama no matter how welcoming the GOP was to them, since he is a source of (justifiable) pride for them.

So you're voting for Mitt because he's the same race as you?

163 Jadewater  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 5:01:09am

re: #158 Dark_Falcon

I'm going to disagree on the matter of black people, at least this time around. They'd vote for Obama no matter how welcoming the GOP was to them, since he is a source of (justifiable) pride for them.

If you take the time to wander around the net you'll find quite number of 'black' people who are quite critical of Obama and don't particularly like his policies. Having pride that a black guy has finally been elected doesn't mean that they actually have to agree with him and give him carte blanche. That's like saying women, would just vote for a woman prez because we all share vaginas.

164 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 5:10:53am

re: #162 McSpiff

So you're voting for Mitt because he's the same race as you?

I am. Because I hate black people. (not gonna enter a sarc tag because I know how this will end)

165 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 5:11:38am

People are fucking stoopid.

166 McSpiff  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 5:15:08am

re: #165 Cannadian Club Akbar

People are fucking stoopid.

"Black people are just going to vote for the black guy anyways" is bigoted trash that has no place in political discourse. It implies that an entire race can't understand politics beyond the most base levels. If you want to try to defend that then yes, I suspect you don't like black people very much. I'd also tell you and Dork to fuck off.

167 Obdicut  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 5:16:08am

re: #160 Cannadian Club Akbar

Yea. That has worked in the past. Promises, promises.

I'm sorry, I'm not following you.

168 Obdicut  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 5:22:44am

The idea of the GOP suddenly throwing off the racism it's been wrapping itself in at this point is mythical anyway.

It'd be like the GOP suddenly rejecting the religious extremists.

169 A Mom Anon  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 5:25:03am

re: #163 Jadewater

Thank you Jadewater. Come on Dark,you should know better than this. Every one of us is an individual,despite similarities- be they gender,race,religion or whatever.
People may vote as a block,but it's terribly unfair to assume every person in particular category thinks and feels exactly alike. Not to mention how superficial the assumption is that skin color trumps all else. You're basically assuming that the black community can't think beyond skin color when choosing elected office holders. Really?

(btw, I am sorry to hear of your job loss. I still think you'd be a great history teacher,you should look into it, your love of the subject could inspire alot of young people who think history is boring)

170 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 5:25:47am

re: #166 McSpiff

"Black people are just going to vote for the black guy anyways" is bigoted trash that has no place in political discourse. It implies that an entire race can't understand politics beyond the most base levels. If you want to try to defend that then yes, I suspect you don't like black people very much. I'd also tell you and Dork to fuck off.

I never said that. So fuck you.

171 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 5:29:03am

find it!! FIND IT!!!

172 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 5:32:19am

I am only a racist because I said the word Chicago....[Link: communities.washingtontimes.com...]
dumb mother fucker...

173 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 5:34:22am

re: #166 McSpiff

"Black people are just going to vote for the black guy anyways" is bigoted trash that has no place in political discourse. It implies that an entire race can't understand politics beyond the most base levels. If you want to try to defend that then yes, I suspect you don't like black people very much. I'd also tell you and Dork to fuck off.

I really did not mean it that way. What I was trying to say was that most black people are whom i have spoken to on the matter do take Obama's 2008 election as a source of pride and acceptance by America. They thus take Republican promises to repudiate Obama's furniture accomplishments as repudiation of the victory that made so pleased them.

174 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 5:36:27am

re: #173 Dark_Falcon

I really did not mean it that way. What I was trying to say was that most black people are whom i have spoken to on the matter do take Obama's 2008 election as a source of pride and acceptance by America. They thus take Republican promises to repudiate Obama's furniture accomplishments as repudiation of the victory that made so pleased them.

Dems make promises when don't deliver.

175 sagehen  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 5:36:52am

re: #166 McSpiff

"Black people are just going to vote for the black guy anyways" is bigoted trash that has no place in political discourse. It implies that an entire race can't understand politics beyond the most base levels. If you want to try to defend that then yes, I suspect you don't like black people very much. I'd also tell you and Dork to fuck off.

It's also provably untrue.

Michael Steele, Alan Keyes, JC Watt, Ken Blackwell and other black Republicans didn't get any more black votes than the other Republicans in their districts.

In Democratic primaries, Steve Cohen (white, Jewish) trounced Nikki Tinker (black, Christian) in an overwhelmingly black christian district in Memphis. He was ahead by a little bit when she tried to make race and religion a campaign issue, and the voters recoiled in horror. It ended up being something like 85-15.

176 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 5:37:07am

Sorry it took so long for me to reply. I was over at the "Irene and Mark Harris DERP about EPCOT Center" page writing a somewhat long post and did not get back here till the discussion had gone on a ways.

177 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 5:38:24am

re: #174 Cannadian Club Akbar

Dems make promises when don't deliver.

Use the pencil and edit. That comment is unintelligible as it stands.

178 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 5:40:32am

re: #177 Dark_Falcon

Use the pencil and edit. That comment is unintelligible as it stands.

And they don't deliver.

179 Decatur Deb  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 6:01:21am

re: #178 Cannadian Club Akbar

And they don't deliver.

Hey CCA, My daughter delivered. She made it into and out of St. Pete, but had to do two 4-hr needle sessions. If the guy doesn't reject her stem cells, she won't have to do the needle-to-the-hip phase.

If I hadn't fallen out of a deuce and a half in 1965, a guy would die in Tampa next month. Weird.

180 Obdicut  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 6:03:46am

re: #173 Dark_Falcon

I really did not mean it that way. What I was trying to say was that most black people are whom i have spoken to on the matter do take Obama's 2008 election as a source of pride and acceptance by America. They thus take Republican promises to repudiate Obama's furniture accomplishments as repudiation of the victory that made so pleased them.

This is still a massively fucked-up way of looking at it. You're choosing to look at this through the lens of pride, as though that's the only goddamn motivator.

The anti-black policies of the GOP are the reason why most blacks don't vote GOP. It's fucking simple. That's why Obama's share of the black vote in the national election was extremely close to Kerry's.

181 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 6:04:10am

re: #179 Decatur Deb

Hey CCA, My daughter delivered. She made it into and out of St. Pete, but had to do two 4-hr needle sessions. If the guy doesn't reject her stem cells, she won't have to do the needle-to-the-hip phase.

If I hadn't fallen out of a deuce and a half in 1965, a guy would die in Tampa next month. Weird.

Could you explain this situation a bit more, please? I'm missing some background.

182 prairiefire  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 6:04:55am

Happy weekend! Driving over to St. Louie today to visit family and my gay boyfriend. We were glad for all the rain from Isaac!

183 Decatur Deb  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 6:08:56am

re: #181 Dark_Falcon

Could you explain this situation a bit more, please? I'm missing some background.

Been having a morning dialogue with CCA, my native guide, about
Daughter1's trip to a Tampa clinic to give stemcells/bone marrow. My 4 kids only exist because I fell out of an Army truck. It's complicated, and meaningless in the end.

Sucks about your work. It's very important to maintain a very high level of activity right now. March or die.

184 Varek Raith  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 6:09:03am

Couldn't possibly have anything to do with anything.
Nope!
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

185 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 6:32:09am

re: #183 Decatur Deb

Been having a morning dialogue with CCA, my native guide, about
Daughter1's trip to a Tampa clinic to give stemcells/bone marrow. My 4 kids only exist because I fell out of an Army truck. It's complicated, and meaningless in the end.

Sucks about your work. It's very important to maintain a very high level of activity right now. March or die.

Very apt that you add that line, given that I was reading Jerry Pournelle's West of Honor earlier this week.

186 Mocking Jay  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 6:39:28am

re: #174 Cannadian Club Akbar

Dems make promises when don't deliver.

The war will pay for itself!

187 Mocking Jay  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 6:39:43am

re: #174 Cannadian Club Akbar

Dems make promises when don't deliver.

No new taxes!

188 Varek Raith  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 6:39:46am

re: #186 Mocking Jay

The war will pay for itself!

So do tax cuts!

189 Decatur Deb  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 6:44:29am

re: #185 Dark_Falcon

Very apt that you add that line, given that I was reading Jerry Pournelle's West of Honor earlier this week.

Don't know the sci-fi, the motto sticks form a Foreign Legion story somewhere, also used in a Gene Hackman FL movie. One of our small airborne units working out of Italy also uses it.


This would be a good time to do a 90 degree career change if you're young enough. DoD is due for a cyclic dry-out no matter who wins the election. Sounds like you could work the business or even leisure environments-- "conference-in-a-can". The greatest joy of course is to go into competition with your old shop.

190 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 6:57:54am

re: #189 Decatur Deb

Don't know the sci-fi, the motto sticks form a Foreign Legion story somewhere, also used in a Gene Hackman FL movie. One of our small airborne units working out of Italy also uses it.

This would be a good time to do a 90 degree career change if you're young enough. DoD is due for a cyclic dry-out no matter who wins the election. Sounds like you could work the business or even leisure environments-- "conference-in-a-can". The greatest joy of course is to go into competition with your old shop.

I'm 34, so a bit too old for a massive change, and my background is now firmly established in sales. I may be able to move a bit towards customer service or business development, though. I'm seeing what's available and acting accordingly.

191 darthstar  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 7:04:08am
192 Decatur Deb  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 7:07:34am

re: #190 Dark_Falcon

I'm 34, so a bit too old for a massive change, and my background is now firmly established in sales. I may be able to move a bit towards customer service or business development, though. I'm seeing what's available and acting accordingly.

So you're half my age. I didn't start my 'grownup' career until I was 32. It (Army Civilian) was way more than 90 degrees from Anthropology/Archaeology. The key was to fit into a large organization with a commitment to employee training and development. Can't say that our modern post-intelligent culture will support that.

193 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 7:13:46am

re: #189 Decatur Deb

Don't know the sci-fi, the motto sticks form a Foreign Legion story somewhere, also used in a Gene Hackman FL movie. One of our small airborne units working out of Italy also uses it.

Pournelle's The Mercenary series of books is set in a universe in which the USA and USSR came together in the late 20th Century to form an Earth dominating alliance called the CoDominium (the coming together has never been exactly laid out and was the subject of a 1990's retcon by Pournelle). Faster-Than-Light (FTL) travel is discovered in 2004, and humanity expands outward from Earth, with the "CoDo" enforcing itself with its Marine regiments. The main combat elements are called Line Marines and are modeled after the French Foreign Legion. They use "March or Die" as one of their slogans.

This line is the early part of a larger series that includes the far-future Sci-Fi novel The Mote in God's Eye. The CoDominium era of the fictional-universe ends in 2100, with the dissolution of the CoDo and the USA and USSR going to war with each other. They succeed only in nuking Earth nine shades past reality, and it is centuries before the Mother World is even semi-habitable again.

194 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 7:15:29am

re: #191 darthstar

Mornin' everyone.

Image: 295251_398294433558576_1709611322_n.jpg

Eh, lay off of Clint. It was an act, and if it did not succeed entirely it did not fail badly either.

195 darthstar  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 7:20:17am

re: #190 Dark_Falcon

I'm 34, so a bit too old for a massive change, and my background is now firmly established in sales. I may be able to move a bit towards customer service or business development, though. I'm seeing what's available and acting accordingly.

When I was 34, I quit my job as a high school English teacher to take a job doing technical training for a software company (My annual salary skyrocketed 13 years up the teacher salary scale from 28K to 45K). It was scary, because I wasn't sure I was technical enough to learn the material and then be able to teach it. And this was just an entry level training position, sure, but I was a teacher so it seemed like a good foot through the door. Over the next few years, I learned a bit about how to test software (from my students, who had real world problems they needed solving, and not sample program exercises), and got good at using the tools. At 36, my company sent me to the UK to set up their training department and to train some partner resellers in Germany. Two years later I came back to the states and began working for former customers as a testing engineer. Today (14 years later), I'm a QA Director for a start up. Just took this job three weeks ago and I'm nervous as hell as it's in an industry (online marketing) about which I know very little. But hey, life's an adventure, right?

So don't give me that "I'm too old at 34 to change" shit. This is motherfuckin' America. Anything is possible. And one of these days I'm going to be rich enough to go back to teaching high school English...because I fucking love that shit.

196 Varek Raith  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 7:21:38am

re: #195 darthstar

When I was 34, I quit my job as a high school English teacher to take a job doing technical training for a software company (My annual salary skyrocketed 13 years up the teacher salary scale from 28K to 45K). It was scary, because I wasn't sure I was technical enough to learn the material and then be able to teach it. And this was just an entry level training position, sure, but I was a teacher so it seemed like a good foot through the door. Over the next few years, I learned a bit about how to test software (from my students, who had real world problems they needed solving, and not sample program exercises), and got good at using the tools. At 36, my company sent me to the UK to set up their training department and to train some partner resellers in Germany. Two years later I came back to the states and began working for former customers as a testing engineer. Today (14 years later), I'm a QA Director for a start up. Just took this job three weeks ago and I'm nervous as hell as it's in an industry (online marketing) about which I know very little. But hey, life's an adventure, right?

So don't give me that "I'm too old at 34 to change" shit. This is motherfuckin' America. Anything is possible. And one of these days I'm going to be rich enough to go back to teaching high school English...because I fucking love that shit.

Old man yells at intertoobz.
/

197 darthstar  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 7:24:24am

re: #194 Dark_Falcon

Eh, lay off of Clint. It was an act, and if it did not succeed entirely it did not fail badly either.

Clint doesn't give a fuck what people say about him. He got up and fed the GOP some red meat, which is why they asked him to come. It didn't backfire on him, it backfired on Mitt Romney, who looked like the idiot for not controlling the message for his last 60 minutes.

And you could tell Romney knew he'd fucked up with Eastwood, because he raced through his speech, skipping over applause breaks and heating up the teleprompter from the friction of the words scrolling by to keep up with him. He cut a few minutes off his planned delivery. That's called letting them see you sweat and it isn't presidential.

198 Obdicut  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 7:24:59am

re: #194 Dark_Falcon

Eh, lay off of Clint. It was an act, and if it did not succeed entirely it did not fail badly either.

I have no idea what it was trying to achieve, but I can't really find a way of looking at it where it wasn't a massive failure.

199 darthstar  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 7:25:31am

re: #196 Varek Raith

Old man yells at intertoobz.
/

Yeah, I may be talking to a chair, but there are others who are 34 who might think it's too late for a career change...so yell I must.

200 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 7:27:58am

re: #190 Dark_Falcon

34? Young punk :) Perfect age for a reboot. It's just as if you'd just gotten out of the army after 16 years. Like I said last night, quite seriously, see what you'd need to do to get your high school history teaching cert in Illinois. You'd make a good teacher, I'd bet.

Reminds me of my favorite history teacher moment. "President Nixon was heading out to the helicopter after resigning. As he passed now President Ford he belched and said, "oh, pardon me" and Jerry said, "OK." "

The other option if you wanted to be an activist - get a FFL01 and open a gun store on the Loop :D Just imagine the heartburn at city hall ...

201 Decatur Deb  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 7:28:33am

re: #195 darthstar

...snip...And one of these days I'm going to be rich enough to go back to teaching high school English...because I fucking love that shit.

Farmer on the phone: "Honey, wonderful news!! We just won the 3 million dollar Powerball."

Farmers wife: "Wonderful. We can continue farming for ten more years!"

202 sagehen  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 7:29:08am

re: #197 darthstar

Clint doesn't give a fuck what people say about him. He got up and fed the GOP some red meat, which is why they asked him to come. It didn't backfire on him, it backfired on Mitt Romney, who looked like the idiot for not controlling the message for his last 60 minutes.

It wasn't just his last 60 minutes, it was the 60 minutes the networks cover. Everything before that (including the touching personal bio-video) had the cable-only audience, at 10 is when ABC, CBS and NBC turn to the convention. Where tens of millions of low-information voters' first look at the Republican nominee was... a chair telling Clint to fuck off.

203 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 7:29:58am

re: #201 Decatur Deb

Farmer on the phone: "Honey, wonderful news!! We just won the 3 million dollar Powerball."

Farmers wife: "Wonderful. We can continue farming for ten more years!"

That's in the "almost too true to be funny" category ... !

204 darthstar  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 7:30:08am

Compassion, he haz it.

"He just told me to, um, there's assistance out there," Chiarello said of her conversation with Romney. "He said, go home and call 211." That's a public service number offered in many states.

Chiarello said she will likely seek some other shelter because her home was submerged in the flooding. She expressed frustration about the town's lack of flood protection.

As I said elsewhere, Romney's problem isn't that he can't connect with regular and poor folk...it's that he has such disdain for them that he can't help but show it. He probably thinks he was offering her solid advice.

205 darthstar  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 7:32:13am

re: #202 sagehen

It wasn't just his last 60 minutes, it was the 60 minutes the networks cover. Everything before that (including the touching personal bio-video) had the cable-only audience, at 10 is when ABC, CBS and NBC turn to the convention. Where tens of millions of low-information voters' first look at the Republican nominee was... a chair telling Clint to fuck off.

In all fairness, the chair didn't tell Clint to fuck off. It told him to go fuck himself.

206 sagehen  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 7:35:49am

re: #205 darthstar

In all fairness, the chair didn't tell Clint to fuck off. It told him to go fuck himself.

I stand corrected.

207 Decatur Deb  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 7:37:32am

re: #205 darthstar

re: #206 sagehen

Pity it wasn't Invisible Rahm Emanuel in the chair.

208 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 7:41:18am

re: #200 William Barnett-Lewis

34? Young punk :) Perfect age for a reboot. It's just as if you'd just gotten out of the army after 16 years. Like I said last night, quite seriously, see what you'd need to do to get your high school history teaching cert in Illinois. You'd make a good teacher, I'd bet.

Reminds me of my favorite history teacher moment. "President Nixon was heading out to the helicopter after resigning. As he passed now President Ford he belched and said, "oh, pardon me" and Jerry said, "OK." "

The other option if you wanted to be an activist - get a FFL01 and open a gun store on the Loop :D Just imagine the heartburn at city hall ...

You have to take courses to be a teacher here and the money for those is not available. I will ask some friends I have who are teachers, though. But I see that as a longer term option; Right now Illinois school districts outside of Chicago aren't hiring much. Chicago plans to hire a number of teachers, but the union for them is very stridently Democratic. Republicans aren't welcome.

209 Decatur Deb  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 7:44:35am

re: #208 Dark_Falcon

You have to take courses to be a teacher here and the money for those is not available. I will ask some friends I have who are teachers, though. But I see that as a longer term option; Right now Illinois school districts outside of Chicago aren't hiring much. Chicago plans to hire a number of teachers, but the union for them is very stridently Democratic. Republicans aren't welcome.

If you let that GOP fantasy get in your way, you are justly punishing yourself. No one is going to ask your politics, and if they did you could retire on the settlement.

210 bratwurst  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 7:45:33am
211 bratwurst  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 7:46:50am

re: #208 Dark_Falcon

Chicago plans to hire a number of teachers, but the union for them is very stridently Democratic. Republicans aren't welcome.

Good grief! As a teacher for 20 years, I can tell you LOTS of good reasons not to get involved in this field...but that reason you give there is all in your head. The real world is not nearly as tribalistic as you seem to imagine.

212 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 7:47:21am

Get yourself down past Bloomington and I'll bet you'd find a nice community to teach in and maybe someday have a family in. Hope you do go for it, DF.

213 Gus  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 7:48:41am

re: #208 Dark_Falcon

You have to take courses to be a teacher here and the money for those is not available. I will ask some friends I have who are teachers, though. But I see that as a longer term option; Right now Illinois school districts outside of Chicago aren't hiring much. Chicago plans to hire a number of teachers, but the union for them is very stridently Democratic. Republicans aren't welcome.

That's just on the intertoobs DF. Beside. You've been on LGF long enough to qualify as a Peronist Progressive. Or something. ;)

214 Decatur Deb  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 7:49:31am

Teachers are liberals because conservatives won't become teachers because teachers are liberals.

215 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 7:50:57am

re: #211 bratwurst

Good grief! As a teacher for 20 years, I can tell you LOTS of good reasons not to get involved in this field...but that reason you give there is all in your head. The real world is not nearly as tribalistic as you seem to imagine.

That's not the only reason, I know a lot of other ones. The biggest being my need to step back in some high stress situations, which a teacher often cannot do.

216 Mich-again  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 7:52:34am

re: #197 darthstar

Clint doesn't give a fuck what people say about him. He got up and fed the GOP some red meat, which is why they asked him to come.

I didn't get the part about Gitmo or Afghanistan. Its been George W. Bush's 3rd term as far as those go. And Clint's slap at lawyers hit both candidates. I think if you let him talk long enough he would go Paulian eventually..

217 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 7:53:18am

re: #209 Decatur Deb

If you let that GOP fantasy get in your way, you are justly punishing yourself. No one is going to ask your politics, and if they did you could retire on the settlement.

You don't know Chicago. It's true that no interviewer is going to ask what party you belong to, but support of Democrats is often expected of city employees and those found to be members of the GOP are in for a rough time.

218 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 7:54:05am

re: #216 Mich-again

I didn't get the part about Gitmo or Afghanistan. Its been George W. Bush's 3rd term as far as those go. And Clint's slap at lawyers hit both candidates. I think if you let him talk long enough he would go Paulian eventually..

I did not know Mitt Romney had a law degree. Does he?

219 Decatur Deb  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 7:54:29am

re: #215 Dark_Falcon

That's not the only reason, I know a lot of other ones. The biggest being my need to step back in some high stress situations, which a teacher often cannot do.

(Not sarcastic) You sound like you need to be your own boss.

(Sarcastic part starts) A wise man said the answer is to borrow $20,000 from your parents to start a business.

220 Gus  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 7:54:45am

re: #218 Dark_Falcon

I did not know Mitt Romney had a law degree. Does he?

JD and MBA. Harvard. Elitist!

221 bratwurst  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 7:55:28am

re: #218 Dark_Falcon

I did not know Mitt Romney had a law degree. Does he?

While you are educating yourself on China and Mormonism, you might also want to read up on the candidate you have been supporting for YEARS (except for a few weeks when you went for Newt).

222 Gus  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 7:55:32am

Oops. Was going to babble something about Zinn.

223 Decatur Deb  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 7:55:41am

re: #218 Dark_Falcon

I did not know Mitt Romney had a law degree. Does he?

Degree, yes but didn't take the bar.

224 darthstar  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 7:56:02am

re: #216 Mich-again

I didn't get the part about Gitmo or Afghanistan. Its been George W. Bush's 3rd term as far as those go. And Clint's slap at lawyers hit both candidates. I think if you let him talk long enough he would go Paulian eventually..

Another three minutes, and he would have been praising the chair for its decision on repealing DADT and bailing out GM. "Yeah, yeah...we still hate you...ah...but those were good of course...but I'm not here to compliment you...ah...ahh...it's that Mormon fellow I'm here for..."

225 Jadewater  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 7:56:11am

re: #190 Dark_Falcon

I'm 34, so a bit too old for a massive change, and my background is now firmly established in sales. I may be able to move a bit towards customer service or business development, though. I'm seeing what's available and acting accordingly.

34 is not to late at all.

I just turned 40 and am starting something entirely new. Learning pretty much from the beginning stages. I've always wanted to get into film making, documentaries in particular. Last month after watching a movie I just decided 'you know what I should just get on with it'. So I sat down and thought it through, put out some queries about an idea I had that was met with lots of enthusiasm, formulated a 6 month plan, got a joe job waitressing to earn some extra cash to fund it and now much to my delight
I'm well on my way to actually doing it. I've been going to 'school' on the internet as well as getting some help from real people. If all goes well in the spring I'll be travelling for 3 months on a film project in Europe. Something I never even imagined doing 2 months ago.

226 danarchy  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 7:56:12am

re: #218 Dark_Falcon

I did not know Mitt Romney had a law degree. Does he?

Yep, along with his business degree. He has never practiced as an attorney as far as I know.

227 Mich-again  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 7:56:45am

re: #217 Dark_Falcon

You don't know Chicago. It's true that no interviewer is going to ask what party you belong to, but support of Democrats is often expected of city employees and those found to be members of the GOP are in for a rough time.

Politics should be kept separate from the workplace. But good luck with that, anywhere.

228 darthstar  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 7:57:20am

re: #218 Dark_Falcon

I did not know Mitt Romney had a law degree. Does he?

Here's a great illustration about Mitt Romney...people say, "You don't know Mitt!" Fuck...even his supporters don't know anything about him...except that he's not Obama.

229 Gus  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 7:57:26am

re: #223 Decatur Deb

Degree, yes but didn't take the bar.

That's because he's a Mormon.

//

230 Decatur Deb  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 7:58:38am

re: #225 Jadewater

34 is not to late at all.

I just turned 40 and am starting something entirely new. Learning pretty much from the beginning stages. I've always wanted to get into film making, documentaries in particular. Last month after watching a movie I just decided 'you know what I should just get on with it'. So I sat down and thought it through, put out some queries about an idea I had that was met with lots of enthusiasm, formulated a 6 month plan, got a joe job waitressing to earn some extra cash to fund it and now much to my delight
I'm well on my way to actually doing it. I've been going to 'school' on the internet as well as getting some help from real people. If all goes well in the spring I'll be travelling for 3 months on a film project in Europe. Something I never even imagined doing 2 months ago.

And if you starve it will still be worth the trip.

231 Mich-again  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 7:58:47am

re: #226 danarchy

Yep, along with his business degree. He has never practiced as an attorney as far as I know.

Yeah but that law degree from Harvard means he knows how they think.

232 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 7:58:51am

re: #229 Gus

That's because he's a Mormon.

//

[Daffy Duck] Ha ha, very funny. Hee hee, it is to laugh.[/Daffy Duck]

Still updinged.

233 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 7:59:58am

re: #221 bratwurst

While you are educating yourself on China and Mormonism, you might also want to read up on the candidate you have been supporting for YEARS (except for a few weeks when you went for Newt).

China, yes, and Mitt a bit more. Mormonism I'm not going to read up on. I'm not really interested in doing so.

234 Jadewater  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 8:01:03am

re: #230 Decatur Deb

And if you starve it will still be worth the trip.

Yep. lol :)

235 bratwurst  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 8:01:06am

re: #228 darthstar

Here's a great illustration about Mitt Romney...people say, "You don't know Mitt!" Fuck...even his supporters don't know anything about him...except that he's not Obama.

Not to pick on DF here...lots of people know MUCH less about Romney, even after this week. This goes back to the idea being promoted on Breitbart that the much lower TV ratings than McCain got 4 years ago are no problem, since the less people know about Romney the more they like him.

236 bratwurst  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 8:01:35am

re: #233 Dark_Falcon

China, yes, and Mitt a bit more. Mormonism I'm not going to read up on. I'm not really interested in doing so.

Then please give up the totally mistaken notion that it was "founded" in Illinois.

237 darthstar  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 8:01:48am

re: #225 Jadewater

34 is not to late at all.

I just turned 40 and am starting something entirely new. Learning pretty much from the beginning stages. I've always wanted to get into film making, documentaries in particular. Last month after watching a movie I just decided 'you know what I should just get on with it'. So I sat down and thought it through, put out some queries about an idea I had that was met with lots of enthusiasm, formulated a 6 month plan, got a joe job waitressing to earn some extra cash to fund it and now much to my delight
I'm well on my way to actually doing it. I've been going to 'school' on the internet as well as getting some help from real people. If all goes well in the spring I'll be travelling for 3 months on a film project in Europe. Something I never even imagined doing 2 months ago.

Awesome! Have fun and enjoy yourself!

238 Decatur Deb  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 8:02:25am

re: #234 Jadewater

Yep. lol :)

That's why I'm rarely left alone with my grandchildren.

239 darthstar  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 8:04:43am

re: #235 bratwurst

Not to pick on DF here...lots of people know MUCH less about Romney, even after this week. This goes back to the idea being promoted on Breitbart that the much lower TV ratings than McCain got 4 years ago are now problem, since the less people know about Romney the more they like him.

Good point...Mitt's whole campaign strategy is based on his being as opaque as possible until it's too late. Then, after he takes office, we'll get to know the real Mitt Romney and get this company* called the United States of America back on its feet again.

* That's what Mitt called the US yesterday...a company.

240 Mich-again  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 8:05:29am

I like how Clint called Mitt a "stellar" businessman and even used the scare quotes to differentiate Mitt from all the other do-nothing lawyers who would be president.

241 Gus  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 8:05:40am

re: #232 Dark_Falcon

[Daffy Duck] Ha ha, very funny. Hee hee, it is to laugh.[/Daffy Duck]

Still updinged.

You're only 34? Well, there's another alternative.

242 darthstar  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 8:07:01am
243 Mich-again  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 8:07:52am

re: #235 bratwurst

This goes back to the idea being promoted on Breitbart that the much lower TV ratings than McCain got 4 years ago are no problem, since the less people know about Romney the more they like him.

Agreed. The best strategy for the GOP is Mitt on Mute.

244 darthstar  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 8:07:58am

re: #241 Gus

You're only 34? Well, there's another alternative.

I was going to suggest Chicago PD...but that's dangerous work, what with all those Democrats in city hall.

245 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 8:09:33am

I post a Pages entitled "Everything in Perspective". does anyone see it. I think the dingos ate it.

How is your morning going?

246 darthstar  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 8:09:47am

re: #236 bratwurst

Why is it I find myself craving sausages after seeing your name scroll by a few times?

247 bratwurst  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 8:13:39am

re: #246 darthstar

Why is it I find myself craving sausages after seeing your name scroll by a few times?

As they say at Chicago's legendary Hot Doug's:

"There are no two finer words in the English language than 'encased meats', my friend"

(and even though it IS a Chicago institution, I am told Republicans are welcome there as well!)

248 Gus  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 8:13:55am

Overheard on Twitter:

Killing your girl fetus after the 3D sonogram confirms sex is a sacred right for Dems

249 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 8:13:58am

BBL

250 Gus  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 8:14:19am

re: #248 Gus

Overheard on Twitter:

This is news to me.

251 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 8:16:05am

Yep, it's just gone.

I had a really good screed on the gun industry and the American Taliban. Just was inspired to write it and now the magic is gone.

How can I find it if it is till on my computer (apple) somewhere?

GEEK HELP NEEDED.

252 Mich-again  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 8:16:52am

re: #247 bratwurst

As they say at Chicago's legendary Hot Doug's:

"There are no two finer words in the English language than 'encased meats', my friend"

(and even though it IS a Chicago institution, I am told Republicans are welcome there as well!)

Are you really Abe Froman, the sausage king of Chicago?

253 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 8:17:34am

re: #252 Mich-again

Are you really Abe Vroman, the sausage king of Chicago?

Did you forget about "Fresh Coffee"?

254 Mich-again  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 8:19:06am

re: #253 ggt

Did you forget about "Fresh Coffee"?

? I must have..

255 Jadewater  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 8:19:56am

off to work!

256 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 8:20:51am

re: #251 ggt

Yep, it's just gone.

I had a really good screed on the gun industry and the American Taliban. Just was inspired to write it and now the magic is gone.

How can I find it if it is till on my computer (apple) somewhere?

GEEK HELP NEEDED.

It's there now. Geeks not needed.

257 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 8:21:36am

re: #256 Stanley Sea

It's there now. Geeks not needed.

WHERE, it's not on my dashboard or my screen anywhere?

258 bratwurst  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 8:23:50am

re: #257 ggt

WHERE, it's not on my dashboard or my screen anywhere?

Here!

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

259 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 8:25:44am

re: #258 bratwurst

Here!

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Thanks, but that's not it. The one I mean is entitled "Everything in Perspective" I wrote a screed before I linked the Alternet Article.

When it was lost, I paged the Alternet Article by itself because the magic is gone and I can't rewrite what I wrote. It was good and I wanted everyone's editing.

The normal box came-up that gave the link to the page, the options to go to LGF or to close the box.

260 Gus  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 8:26:12am

re: #259 ggt

Thanks, but that's not it. The one I mean is entitled "Everything in Perspective" I wrote a screed before I linked the Alternet Article.

When it was lost, I paged the Alternet Article by itself because the magic is gone and I can't rewrite what I wrote. It was good and I wanted everyone's editing.

Alternet! Outrage!

//

261 Sionainn  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 8:27:20am

re: #199 darthstar

Yeah, I may be talking to a chair, but there are others who are 34 who might think it's too late for a career change...so yell I must.

Heck, last year (at age 45), I seriously looked into what I'd need to do to become a P.A. With two young children, husband with a job he loves, and a bunch of student loans that we are currently paying off, it wasn't feasible to spend that kind of money only to not be able to get into the program in my city (only 26 spots a year with thousands applying) and moving was out of the question. Too bad they didn't have a program in my city for this when I was 34...that would have been another story entirely.

262 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 8:29:21am

The universe does not want my opinions published.

:(

263 Sionainn  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 8:30:09am

re: #215 Dark_Falcon

That's not the only reason, I know a lot of other ones. The biggest being my need to step back in some high stress situations, which a teacher often cannot do.

That's a valid reason. Being a Republican? Not so much.

264 danarchy  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 8:33:11am

re: #238 Decatur Deb

That's why I'm rarely left alone with my grandchildren.

Well, if you have grandchildren it means you managed not to kill your own children. What's to worry about :)

265 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 8:33:31am

re: #223 Decatur Deb

Degree, yes but didn't take the bar.

He took the bar. From The Real Mitt Romney biography by Michael Kranish and Scott Helman:

Romney was hedging his bets, though, not wholly confident that he would make it in the business world. He passed the Michigan Bar Exam in July 1975 and was admitted to practice law there the next year.

266 Sionainn  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 8:35:34am

re: #263 Sionainn

That's a valid reason. Being a Republican? Not so much.

When I taught, there was only one person whose politics I knew, and that was only because I saw her at the presidential caucus in my precinct.

267 Decatur Deb  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 8:39:02am

re: #265 goddamnedfrank

He took the bar. From The Real Mitt Romney Biography by Michael Kranish and Scott Helman:

I could easily be wrong on that--picked it up on the web over the last couple days.

268 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 8:40:03am

re: #267 Decatur Deb

I could easily be wrong on that--picked it up on the web over the last couple days.

Consult a physician. There's shots for that!!
/

269 Gus  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 8:40:47am
271 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 8:44:28am

re: #269 Gus

Curiosity Rover Report (Aug. 31, 2012)

[Embedded content]

That was great!

272 Gus  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 8:44:48am
273 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 8:45:52am

re: #270 Gus

Do not stick your head out the roof hatch of a bus.

omg, awful. Yeah, those kids were traumatized.

274 Gus  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 8:47:18am

re: #273 Stanley Sea

omg, awful. Yeah, those kids were traumatized.

Gotta be careful when one is drunk. Or even not drunk. I'm surprised they even reported that they transported him to the hospital. Thought he would been dead on the scene.

275 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 8:51:15am
276 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 8:52:22am

re: #269 Gus

Curiosity Rover Report (Aug. 31, 2012)

[Embedded content]

Looks like Curiosity is doing figure 8's !!
/

277 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 8:53:57am

re: #270 Gus

Do not stick your head out the roof hatch of a bus.

Heard about that this morning

sad

And here in Atlanta, 20 year old fan fell to his death at a college football game

[Link: www.ajc.com...]

278 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 8:53:59am
279 Gus  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 8:54:08am

re: #275 ggt

very cool.--I think so anyway

Freak out!

You can attach the video to your post.

280 Decatur Deb  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 8:54:09am

re: #276 sattv4u2

Looks like Curiosity is doing figure 8's !!
/

Punk kids cutting doughnuts on my plain.

281 Gus  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 8:54:48am

re: #280 Decatur Deb

Punk kids cutting doughnuts on my plain.

You Mars rovers get offa mah lawn!

282 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 8:55:08am

re: #279 Gus

Freak out!

[Embedded content]

You can attach the video to your post.

Maybe I should put my opinions in a video?

no, that would be weird.

283 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 8:57:47am

re: #279 Gus

A little bony--even for a guy

285 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 9:00:21am

re: #284 Gus

At Cat Video Film Festival, Stars Purr for Close-Ups

Because It’s All a Cat Conspiracy?

yep!!!

286 Gus  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 9:00:53am

re: #285 ggt

Because It’s All a Cat Conspiracy?

yep!!!

Image: 13432281076a00e54f9153e088330176166693cc970c800wi.png

287 Gus  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 9:01:56am

Top prize went to... Henri 2, Paw de Deux

288 Gus  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 9:04:36am

re: #287 Gus

Top prize went to... Henri 2, Paw de Deux

[Embedded content]

Henri 2, Paw De Deux

Well… I’m still here.
I have grown my fluffy coat for the cold winter, like a Tsar’s robe.
It requires a certain delicate maintenance.
I am free to go. Yet I remain.
The 15 hours a day I sleep have no effect.
I wake to the same tedium.
Immortalized on the wall. (Tournée Du Chat Noir De Rodolphe Salis)
Forgotten on the floor.
When my caretakers step here they become irate.
Yet I feel nothing.
They leave tasty snacks just out of reach.
They taunt me mercilessly.
I alone feel this torment.
The white idiot writhes on his chair, begging for cheeseburgers.
I’m surrounded by morons.
“Pay attention to the cat.”
Not that they ever do.
Still, I have learned a few things.
The whipped cream in the bathroom is not whipped cream.
We cannot escape ourselves.
And sometimes the cat door… is closed.
Fin

un film de Will Braden ©

289 Gus  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 9:07:10am

The ACATemy Awards

290 Mich-again  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 9:11:58am

Some screenshots from the movie Another Happy Day featuring a really cute young lady from MI who landed a minor role in the film.. (my bg..)

291 A Mom Anon  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 9:15:01am

To Dark Falcon:
I'm not going to argue about the political end of this,but what you describe is not legal. I have a feeling the tribalism you describe is based on your online experience and your own framing. I live in the reddest part of north GA and the only politics foisted on teachers is by parents. Trust me on this one,our school board is as GOP as it gets,but it's not required of anyone to support a political party.Besides,you wouldn't have to teach full time,you could be a substitute or teach continuing education classes or GED classes. Or,what about being an interpretive park ranger? Those are the people that take park visitors on tours of historic battle sites and things like that. You might not get rich,but you'd be doing something you love,which is a rare thing in this world. And 34 is NOT old. I'm 52 and I've been out of the workforce for almost 20 yrs. I have to start over and figure out what to do at my age. I'll admit,I'm scared but I don't think it's too late.

I really want to get you to seriously think about it,history is a love of yours,we NEED people who have passion in the classroom,now more than ever. There is grant money out there for teaching certificate programs,along with other money so you wouldn't have to take on a big financial burden.

292 Gus  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 9:15:04am
293 darthstar  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 9:15:35am

Toyota.

294 Gus  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 9:17:13am

re: #293 darthstar

Toyota.

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#279 //

295 Mich-again  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 9:18:52am

re: #293 darthstar

eww.

296 darthstar  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 9:18:54am

re: #294 Gus

#279 //

Yeah...you beat me to it again. Bastard.

297 darthstar  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 9:20:14am

Trouble in paradise...

298 darthstar  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 9:21:22am

So Paul Ryan lied about his marathon time by an hour and twenty minutes or so...it's entirely possible it was an honest mistake...

299 Gus  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 9:22:32am
300 Gus  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 9:23:37am

re: #299 Gus

[Embedded content]

...

NUCLEAR ISSUE

Press TV: “I have condemned the threats by any member state to destroy or delegitimize another. I have reminded the leaders...throughout the world to lower the volume and stop the provocation that can lead the area down a slippery slope of conflict....It is time for more reason and responsibility. I urge you all to resolve differences through peaceful means.”

Ban Ki-Moon: "For the sake of peace and security in this region and globally, I urge the Government of Iran to take the necessary measures to build international confidence in the exclusively peaceful nature of its nuclear programme.

"This can be done by fully complying with the relevant Security Council resolutions and thoroughly cooperating with the IAEA [International Atomic Energy Agency].

"I urge, also, constructive engagement with the P5+1 [US-UK-France-Germany-Russia-China] to quickly reach a diplomatic solution.

"And I urge all the parties to stop provocative and inflammatory threats. A war of words can quickly spiral into a war of violence. Bluster can so easily become bloodshed. Now is the time for all leaders to use their voices to lower, not raise, tensions."

...

HUMAN RIGHTS

Press TV: No Comment

Ban Ki-Moon: "I urge you to unite as well to promote and protect the values embedded in the United Nations Charter and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, including freedom of expression and freedom of association.

"For much of your membership, this internal effort should be the next frontier of action for your people."

301 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 9:24:41am

Thinking about history, today is the 73rd anniversary of the start of what we refer to as WWII in the west as Hitler attacked Poland after staging a fake attack on Germany.

Arguably though the war ran from 28 June 1914 to 9 November 1989. One long war with some periods hotter, some colder and changing allegiances but a single war that ripped the world apart. 75 years of us doing our damnedest to destroy everyone and every thing.

I wonder how, a thousand years from now, the legends of this past century will read...

302 Gus  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 9:31:11am
303 darthstar  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 9:33:15am

Leap Motion...this will be awesome.

[Link: www.technologyreview.com...]

304 Gus  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 9:38:04am
305 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 9:41:03am

Some of the things posted on the intertoobs just make me LOL. They are stupid and often predictable, still damn funny.

306 darthstar  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 9:41:15am
307 Renaissance_Man  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 9:49:46am

re: #208 Dark_Falcon

You have to take courses to be a teacher here and the money for those is not available. I will ask some friends I have who are teachers, though. But I see that as a longer term option; Right now Illinois school districts outside of Chicago aren't hiring much. Chicago plans to hire a number of teachers, but the union for them is very stridently Democratic. Republicans aren't welcome.

Believe it or not, Democrats don't hate you as much as you hate them. Not even as much as you hate yourself.

308 darthstar  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 9:49:46am

re: #306 darthstar

From the comments:

Hey, Romney, if you can't afford to get enough likes on your own, maybe you can borrow some from your parents.

309 HappyWarrior  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 9:54:30am

re: #308 darthstar

From the comments:

Snicker. haha.

310 Gus  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 9:55:32am

re: #307 Renaissance_Man

Believe it or not, Democrats don't hate you as much as you hate them. Not even as much as you hate yourself.

Psycho babble.

311 darthstar  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 9:57:08am
312 Renaissance_Man  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 9:58:07am

re: #310 Gus

Psycho babble.

You seem remarkably negative about that.

Tell me about your mother.

313 Gus  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 9:58:12am

Psychobabble is … a set of repetitive verbal formalities that kills off the very spontaneity, candour, and understanding it pretends to promote. It’s an idiom that reduces psychological insight to a collection of standardized observations, that provides a frozen lexicon to deal with an infinite variety of problems.

314 darthstar  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 9:58:59am
315 Gus  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 10:01:26am

re: #312 Renaissance_Man

You seem remarkably negative about that.

Tell me about your mother.

I am very negative about it. It's just an off the cuff observation that may or may not be based on reality. Your statement says that DF "hates himself." You know this how? And how many other people "hate themselves" here? It's a phrase wrapped in pseudo-science or simply psychobabble.

316 Mocking Jay  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 10:02:06am

re: #314 darthstar

RNC 2012 - The Road to Jeb Bush 2016 - The Best F#@king News Team Ever Audits America

317 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 10:04:31am

re: #315 Gus

I am very negative about it. It's just an off the cuff observation that may or may not be based on reality. You're statement says that DF "hates himself." You know this how? And how many other people "hate themselves" here? It's a phrase wrapped in pseudo-science or simply psychobabble.

I have to agree. I don't think DF hates himself. I haven't seen that in any of his posts. I do think he is comfortable in his world view and is not threatened by being here. He seems open to adjusting his world view, yet I don't see the core of it changing anytime soon.

318 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 10:05:28am

re: #315 Gus

I am very negative about it. It's just an off the cuff observation that may or may not be based on reality. You're statement says that DF "hates himself." You know this how? And how many other people "hate themselves" here? It's a phrase wrapped in pseudo-science or simply psychobabble.

The kid puts up a whole forrest of red flags. He's said he doesn't plan on living to retirement, doesn't see the point. Believes in heaven but is virtually certain that he's not going there, doesn't view himself as worthy or a good person. He's posted tons of unbelievably negative shit about how he sees and values himself.

319 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 10:07:01am

I give up -- I went thru my internet history and my post is just gone. gone gone gone.

It's hard to accept. Somewhere between 9:58 and 10:16 this morning, the dingos were active.

Please, join in my pity party. Give me the illusion that someone feels my pain, even if just for a moment. I do the same for you.

320 Decatur Deb  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 10:09:16am

re: #319 ggt

I give up -- I went thru my internet history and my post is just gone. gone gone gone.

It's hard to accept. Somewhere between 9:58 and 10:16 this morning, the dingos were active.

Please, join in my pity party. Give me the illusion that someone feels my pain, even if just for a moment. I do the same for you.

Invisible Obama is reading your invisible post right now.

321 Gus  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 10:10:02am

re: #318 goddamnedfrank

The kid puts up a whole forrest of red flags. He's said he doesn't plan on living to retirement, doesn't see the point. Believes in heaven but is virtually certain that he's not going there, doesn't view himself as worthy or a good person. He's posted tons of unbelievably negative shit about how he sees and values himself.

DF has always been rather expressive about himself and rarely holds back on his own personal feelings. This isn't politics we're talking about it's a personality and a human being.

322 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 10:12:41am

re: #319 ggt

I give up -- I went thru my internet history and my post is just gone. gone gone gone.

It's hard to accept. Somewhere between 9:58 and 10:16 this morning, the dingos were active.

Please, join in my pity party. Give me the illusion that someone feels my pain, even if just for a moment. I do the same for you.

Basement Cat gloats.

323 Bipartite Gnomenclature  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 10:17:40am

re: #315 Gus

I am very negative about it. It's just an off the cuff observation that may or may not be based on reality. Your statement says that DF "hates himself." You know this how? And how many other people "hate themselves" here? It's a phrase wrapped in pseudo-science or simply psychobabble.

There are times I hate myself. Many people who attempt suicide do so because they hate themselves. It's a real phenomenon. If my memory is correct, D_F has stated he hates himself on occasion.

Clinical depression isn't an imaginary situation, it negatively affects and kills many people.

324 darthstar  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 10:18:58am

This is what I've been saying for a while...

But you can see that Romney is uncomfortable with this positioning. You can see this isn’t how he wanted it. Every once in a while—when he’s momentarily startled by the raucous Republican response to one of his coded Obama-is-foreign lines, say, or when he gets heckled—you can see real fear in Romney’s eyes. It’s the fear of someone who suddenly realized he let himself get too drunk, or nearly got into a car accident because he was dopily roaming his hand around the floor of the car, looking for the sandwich he dropped. Someone who spent his whole life chasing something, only to find that he really didn’t want it. Not like this. Never like this. Romney wanted Republicans to volunteer their respect for him with wild abandon and recognize him as a champion for his party, not to pander or be told what he’s supposed to be—that’s the opposite of leading. And then he sets his jaw for a second, and his eyes go back into half-vacant campaigning mode and the smile pops on and he gets back into it, because it’s what he’s been trained to do.

The whole article is very good...read it.
[Link: www.thestranger.com...]

325 Gus  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 10:20:36am

re: #323 b_sharp

There are times I hate myself. Many people who attempt suicide do so because they hate themselves. It's a real phenomenon. If my memory is correct, D_F has stated he hates himself on occasion.

Clinical depression isn't an imaginary situation, it negatively affects and kills many people.

What is this the Democratic Underground? Sorry but I find this all rather creepy. I can think of an awful lot of odd personalities around here and think singling out DF because "we" don't agree with him politically to be totally fucked up.

326 Bipartite Gnomenclature  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 10:21:20am

re: #319 ggt

I give up -- I went thru my internet history and my post is just gone. gone gone gone.

It's hard to accept. Somewhere between 9:58 and 10:16 this morning, the dingos were active.

Please, join in my pity party. Give me the illusion that someone feels my pain, even if just for a moment. I do the same for you.

I feel your pain. I only had that happen to me a couple of times before I started writing my posts in an editor and then 'cut-n-paste'ing them into my browser.

327 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 10:22:05am

re: #315 Gus

And how many other people "hate themselves" here?

I have a toe nail I'm not too fond of!
/

328 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 10:23:16am

re: #325 Gus

What is this the Democratic Underground? Sorry but I find this all rather creepy. I can think of an awful lot of odd personalities around here and think singling out DF because "we" don't agree with him politically to be totally fucked up.

I could be wrong, but I didn't read R_M's motivations this way.

329 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 10:23:32am

re: #325 Gus

I can think of an awful lot of odd personalities around here

Why did you just look my way!?!?!
/

330 Decatur Deb  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 10:23:34am

re: #325 Gus

What is this the Democratic Underground? Sorry but I find this all rather creepy. I can think of an awful lot of odd personalities around here and think singling out DF because "we" don't agree with him politically to be totally fucked up.

Guy's been having a lot of job stress and just got laid off. I'll wait until he gets a paycheck before calling him an asshole again.

331 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 10:24:31am

re: #330 Decatur Deb

Guy's been having a lot of job stress and just got laid off. I'll wait until he gets a paycheck before calling him an asshole again.

he pays you to call him an asshole?!?!?!

332 Decatur Deb  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 10:25:20am

re: #331 sattv4u2

he pays you to call him an asshole?!?!?!

What happens in Chicago stays in Chicago.

333 Gus  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 10:25:57am

re: #36 Dark_Falcon

My employer let me go today. I'm not really surprised, since I specialized in defense conferences and there are none scheduled, and despite my team's best efforts, we weren't able to generate any business this month. Management didn't hate me, and they still respect me, but they don't need me anymore. But my unemployment will not be contested, and I've got co-workers who will give me references when I need them. So I should be able to be back to work before Thanksgiving, if not sooner. I am worried, but not terrified, for I know I did my utmost and only failed in not being able to climb a mountain no one could climb. My father understood what had happened and is supportive.

And any persons at other blogs intending to twist this statement or mock me should lay aside that intention. Jobs change but I leave this one a better man than when I arrive and with some real accomplishments to my credit. I hold my head high, and any haters will be ignored.

...

334 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 10:29:36am
335 Bipartite Gnomenclature  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 10:32:02am

re: #325 Gus

What is this the Democratic Underground? Sorry but I find this all rather creepy. I can think of an awful lot of odd personalities around here and think singling out DF because "we" don't agree with him politically to be totally fucked up.

Were did this come from?

I countered a statement you made and answered a question you asked, it's as simple as that.

Nobody singled out D_F because of his political views, he was singled out because he made a sincere and emotionally evocative comment about his job loss. His politics, and the commenter's, were mentioned because D_F mentioned the politics in the education system.

336 Bipartite Gnomenclature  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 10:32:43am

re: #329 sattv4u2


I can think of an awful lot of odd personalities around here

Why did you just look my way!?!?!
/

Satt, you are too odd for the odd.

337 Bipartite Gnomenclature  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 10:33:45am

re: #333 Gus

...

D_F was talking about the haters at other blogs, not LGF.

338 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 10:33:59am

re: #336 b_sharp

Satt, you are too odd for the odd.

Don't two odds make an even !?!?!

THANKS!!

339 Bipartite Gnomenclature  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 10:40:00am

D_F, you're intelligent and capable, you'll do OK. Before you consider becoming a teacher, consider how comfortable you are in front of groups and how well you can communicate to a diverse group of people. If you are comfortable in that environment, your love of history would do you well in teaching. You might also think about writing a book over the next few years.

340 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 10:40:38am

Also DF's concern about possible workplace problems in a very liberal field are not unfounded. I've experienced it myslef. I was once told by an employer back at the height of Bush Derangement Syndrome that I was required to vote Dem because he didn't want his money (aka my paycheck) going to causes that support evil Republican causes.Teaching is probably OK, there are employment rules and HR departments to avoid discrimination but the concern isn't unfounded.

341 Mocking Jay  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 10:41:45am

Eh... I get the impression that he doesn't have any interest in teaching. Let it go, guys.

342 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 10:41:50am

re: #339 b_sharp

consider how comfortable you are in front of groups and how well you can communicate to a diverse group of people.

You just described one of a teachers biggest atributes

343 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 10:45:37am
344 Bipartite Gnomenclature  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 10:47:05am

re: #340 Killgore Trout

Also DF's concern about possible workplace problems in a very liberal field are not unfounded. I've experienced it myslef. I was once told by an employer back at the height of Bush Derangement Syndrome that I was required to vote Dem because he didn't want his money (aka my paycheck) going to causes that support evil Republican causes.Teaching is probably OK, there are employment rules and HR departments to avoid discrimination but the concern isn't unfounded.

Once you touched that paycheck it wasn't his money any more and his right to determine where it ended up disappeared.

345 Mich-again  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 10:53:21am

re: #340 Killgore Trout

did you see the ruling that concluded Citizen's United gives employers and unions the right to force their employees to attend political rallies.

346 Decatur Deb  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 10:53:21am

re: #344 b_sharp

Once you touched that paycheck it wasn't his money any more and his right to determine where it ended up disappeared.

The threat is also an unfair labor practices violation. KT's union could have helped him with that...oh..

[Link: m.bracewellgiuliani.com...]

347 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 10:53:45am

re: #344 b_sharp

Once you touched that paycheck it wasn't his money any more and his right to determine where it ended up disappeared.

Not in his mind. Also since it was a small workshop of about 12 employees he might have been legally allowed to discriminate. I never explored my legal options or made a big deal out of it. He was a self proclaimed socialist who didn't pay a living wage or the legally required over time pay. Lived in a large mansion on 5 acres and spent absurd amounts of money on very ugly modern art. I decided I was better off self employed.

348 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 10:54:18am

re: #344 b_sharp

Once you touched that paycheck it wasn't his money any more and his right to determine where it ended up disappeared.

me'thinks the point was, an employer can make one feel uncomfortable in the workplace over politics

illegal,, sure

try proving it without (compliant) witnesses though

349 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 10:54:32am

re: #322 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Basement Cat gloats.

Basement Cat has the contract on the dingos

350 Bipartite Gnomenclature  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 10:54:37am

It really gets me when people whine about what the government does with 'their' money. The money used by the government is no more their personal money than is the money they give to Walmart for that hair removal product or to pay the kid next door for shovelling snow. The money the government uses can be viewed as the public's money so concerns that it not be wasted are valid, but not as an individual's money.

351 Decatur Deb  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 10:55:15am

re: #347 Killgore Trout

Not in his mind. Also since it was a small workshop of about 12 employees he might have been legally allowed to discriminate. I never explored my legal options or made a big deal out of it. He was a self proclaimed socialist who didn't pay a living wage or the legally required over time pay. Lived in a large mansion on 5 acres and spent absurd amounts of money on very ugly modern art. I decided I was better off self employed.

Then you should have fucked him on the way out.

352 Mich-again  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 10:55:42am

re: #345 Mich-again

more correctly..

UPW’s independent use of its paid workforce to campaign for a federal candidate post-Citizen’s United was not contemplated by Congress and, consequently, is not prohibited by either the Act or Commission regulations….

353 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 10:56:11am

re: #351 Decatur Deb

Then you should have fucked him on the way out.

he did

he released the tadpoles all over the very ugly modern art!!!!

354 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 10:57:19am

re: #353 sattv4u2

he did

he released the tadpoles all over the very ugly modern art!!!!

Which increased their value probably.

355 Decatur Deb  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 11:00:13am

re: #354 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Which increased their value probably.

Grenouille period.

356 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 11:00:23am

Afternoon Honcos.

357 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 11:01:00am

re: #356 Cannadian Club Akbar

Afternoon Honcos.

Hey did you see any sly looking, but not hungry dingos lurking on your way in?

358 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 11:01:01am

re: #356 Cannadian Club Akbar

Afternoon Honcos.

And here we WERE, having a nice day!

359 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 11:02:00am

re: #351 Decatur Deb

Then you should have fucked him on the way out.

I thought about it but decided not to. I even tried to do business with him after I left but soon gave up. There was never any money to be had for me dealing with him, he'd always find a way to screw me. It wasn't political, it's just the way he does business. Looking back, I'm proud I took the high road and just let it go.

360 Bipartite Gnomenclature  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 11:02:12am

re: #348 sattv4u2

me'thinks the point was, an employer can make one feel uncomfortable in the workplace over politics

illegal,, sure

try proving it without (compliant) witnesses though

I got that, but I never know what your laws are down there.

The 'it's my money and I'll cry if I want to' meme bugs me, so I addressed that.

361 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 11:04:39am

re: #357 ggt

Hey did you see any sly looking, but not hungry dingos lurking on your way in?

"Maybe the dingo ate your baby"
-Elaine, Seinfeld.

362 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 11:05:14am

re: #361 Cannadian Club Akbar

"Maybe the dingo ate your baby"
-Elaine, Seinfeld.

It seems they also eat words. . .

And I just can't seem to get over it. :)

363 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 11:05:31am

re: #360 b_sharp

I got that, but I never know what your laws are down there.

The 'it's my money and I'll cry if I want to' meme bugs me, so I addressed that.

His attitude towards his employees was reprehensible, especially for someone who considered themselves a socialist. He considered employees as "mouths to feed" (that's a direct quote) and payroll was a drain on his profits.

364 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 11:05:51am

re: #360 b_sharp

I got that, but I never know what your laws are down there.

The 'it's my money and I'll cry if I want to' meme bugs me, so I addressed that.

Spending money isn't bad, it's the CHRONIC wasting of money that pisses people off.

365 Decatur Deb  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 11:06:26am

re: #359 Killgore Trout

I thought about it but decided not to. I even tried to do business with him after I left but soon gave up. There was never any money to be had for me dealing with him, he'd always find a way to screw me. It wasn't political, it's just the way he does business. Looking back, I'm proud I took the high road and just let it go.

The little vignette you gave makes him about eight kinds of illegal. (One of the great virtues of unions is that they teach workers labor rules.) It's just as virtuous to nail an abusive left-wing boss as a RW.

366 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 11:06:46am

re: #364 Cannadian Club Akbar

My bad. I thought we y'all were talking about the gubment.

367 Mocking Jay  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 11:07:23am

A Fistful of Awesome

368 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 11:07:30am

Why do people just look for stupid things to be upset about?

I know plenty of Native Born American's who speak with accents that *seem* foreign.

369 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 11:07:53am

re: #365 Decatur Deb

Glad to hear everything is "so far, so good" with your daughter. I dropped out this AM.

370 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 11:09:31am

I've been experiencing blurred vision off and on for a while now. I thought it was just an out of date prescription so I went in to get new contacts but the blurred vision still persists. I made the mistake of googling possible causes. Those medical sites are scary as shit.

371 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 11:09:52am

re: #368 ggt

Why do people just look for stupid things to be upset about?

I know plenty of Native Born American's who speak with accents that *seem* foreign.

I lived in Orlando. Tons of Mexicans and Peurto Ricans. BFD.

372 Decatur Deb  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 11:09:59am

re: #369 Cannadian Club Akbar

Glad to hear everything is "so far, so good" with your daughter. I dropped out this AM.

Quite proud of her. She turned it into fodder for her humor blog:

[Link: lorcadamon.com...]

373 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 11:10:07am

re: #370 Killgore Trout

I've been experiencing blurred vision off and on for a while now. I thought it was just an out of date prescription so I went in to get new contacts but the blurred vision still persists. I made the mistake of googling possible causes. Those medical sites are scary as shit.

drink some gatorade

374 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 11:11:14am

re: #373 ggt

drink some gatorade

Really? I guess I could do that. beats the hell out of going to the doctor to be diagnosed with brain cancer.

375 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 11:11:36am

re: #371 Cannadian Club Akbar

I lived in Orlando. Tons of Mexicans and Peurto Ricans. BFD.

I was thinking that the person probably had a Cuban accent and the "complainer" didn't know the difference --saw brown skin, heard accent and made an ASSumption.

376 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 11:12:08am

re: #372 Decatur Deb

Quite proud of her. She turned it into fodder for her humor blog:

[Link: lorcadamon.com...]

Money:
I’m pretty sure I did more than my fair share of whining during the entire process, but it was mostly because it was day seven of No-Wine-Gate and we had already gone to DefCon Get-Me-A-Fucking-Drink. You can’t take away my merlot AND poke me. It’s just not right.
Heh.

377 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 11:12:41am

re: #374 Killgore Trout

Really? I guess I could do that. beats the hell out of going to the doctor to be diagnosed with brain cancer.

dehydration often makes my vision go off kilter. You are also in a dryer environment. Gatorade is my first line of defense for most health issues. It's amazing stuff.

Used to have Pediatrician who swore by it.

378 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 11:13:20am

re: #374 Killgore Trout

Really? I guess I could do that. beats the hell out of going to the doctor to be diagnosed with brain cancer.

Change your eye drops if you use any. I prefer Clear Eyes. Visine is junk.

379 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 11:13:35am

[Link: www.healthtap.com...]

Your experiencing sweating, tunnel vision, dizziness along with nausea most likely are having coronary insufficiency!!! Take a baby aspirin, with Gatorade or water and immediately call 911. Get to a cool restful place and lie down. Tell someone close by how you are feeling and that you may be having a heart attack and help has been called. If you have Nitroglycerine tab take one. Get help.

OMG!

380 Mocking Jay  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 11:13:53am

One Angry Men

381 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 11:14:46am

re: #379 Killgore Trout

[Link: www.healthtap.com...]

OMG!

You're a dead man. Been good to know ya.....
///

382 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 11:14:58am

re: #370 Killgore Trout

I've been experiencing blurred vision off and on for a while now. I thought it was just an out of date prescription so I went in to get new contacts but the blurred vision still persists. I made the mistake of googling possible causes. Those medical sites are scary as shit.

Maybe it's all the extra reading you're doing!!!

383 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 11:15:22am

re: #379 Killgore Trout

re: #381 Cannadian Club Akbar

You're a dead man. Been good to know ya.....
///

Can I have your stuff?

384 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 11:15:54am

re: #379 Killgore Trout

[Link: www.healthtap.com...]

OMG!

GATORADE!!!!!

385 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 11:16:16am

re: #383 sattv4u2

re: #381 Cannadian Club Akbar

Can I have your stuff?

lol.

386 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 11:16:26am

re: #383 sattv4u2

re: #381 Cannadian Club Akbar

Can I have your stuff?

You get the tadpoles, I get the Greenhouse.

387 Decatur Deb  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 11:17:04am

re: #376 Cannadian Club Akbar

Money:
I’m pretty sure I did more than my fair share of whining during the entire process, but it was mostly because it was day seven of No-Wine-Gate and we had already gone to DefCon Get-Me-A-Fucking-Drink. You can’t take away my merlot AND poke me. It’s just not right.
Heh.

I taught her how to talk. Another reason I'm not left alone with the grand-kids.

388 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 11:19:47am
389 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 11:20:23am

re: #387 Decatur Deb

I taught her how to talk. Another reason I'm not left alone with the grand-kids.

Yeah, I have that feeling that whatever DIL I get in the future will be the kind that won't let me around much.

390 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 11:20:43am

re: #372 Decatur Deb

Quite proud of her. She turned it into fodder for her humor blog:

[Link: lorcadamon.com...]

Yeah!

391 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 11:21:55am

re: #388 ggt

What?

pigeons

a guy that worked for me used to like having a day off every other week or so. Would go to Boston Commons and catch pigeons. His next stop was Bostons ChinaTown (only blocks away from the Commons)

I didn't ask!

392 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 11:23:22am
393 CuriousLurker  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 11:31:32am

re: #372 Decatur Deb

Quite proud of her. She turned it into fodder for her humor blog:

[Link: lorcadamon.com...]

Okay, she's your daughter. I've been following her on Twitter for the longest time and knew I'd heard about her because she was the daughter of someone here, but I couldn't for the life of me remember whose. Now I know and won't forget again.

I very much enjoy her tweets—she's smart & funny.

394 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 11:33:25am

So my friend I moved in with was/is getting screwed in regards to unemployment pay. I told him to call Legal Aid and his state rep. So guess what? He did. Now, he will be getting his money in due time and the state rep is gonna go over the law here to fix the problem. Best part? He thinks he did this on his own. That's OK.:)

395 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 11:34:52am

bbl

396 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 11:34:55am

re: #350 b_sharp

It really gets me when people whine about what the government does with 'their' money. The money used by the government is no more their personal money than is the money they give to Walmart for that hair removal product or to pay the kid next door for shovelling snow. The money the government uses can be viewed as the public's money so concerns that it not be wasted are valid, but not as an individual's money.

It does seem different to me. The money I give the government is for the common good and the operation of the country, and I get to vote on some aspects of it, and have a critical eye for the uses it goes for. If I pay a kid to shovel the walk, I no longer have any interest or say in what the money goes for, because my walk got shoveled. With the govt., my question is, "Did we actually get the walk shoveled, or did you buy Cheetos with the money and stiff the walk-shoveler?"

397 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 11:36:04am

re: #394 Cannadian Club Akbar

Best part? He thinks he did this on his own'll now have money to support me in the style I am entitled . That's OK.:)

ftfy

398 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 11:37:34am

re: #397 sattv4u2

SHUTTY!!!!

399 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 11:38:31am

re: #396 SanFranciscoZionist

It does seem different to me. The money I give the government is for the common good and the operation of the country, and I get to vote on some aspects of it, and have a critical eye for the uses it goes for. If I pay a kid to shovel the walk, I no longer have any interest or say in what the money goes for, because my walk got shoveled. With the govt., my question is, "Did we actually get the walk shoveled, or did you buy Cheetos with the money and stiff the walk-shoveler?"

D.I.N.G.

400 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 11:42:57am
401 Digital Display  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 11:43:31am

re: #337 b_sharp

D_F was talking about the haters at other blogs, not LGF.

D_F has taken a lot of grief from the stalkers. ( Technically called bald faced piece of shit liars with mental obsessive issues. ) But that's another story.
I Wish Dark well in his future endeavors and think he will do just fine.

402 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 11:44:47am

re: #400 Stanley Sea

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I know

What a bunch of pikers!
No Greek columns
No halos
No fainters!!

!!

403 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 11:47:44am

re: #402 sattv4u2

I know

What a bunch of pikers!
No Greek columns
No halos
No fainters!!

!!

You mean like in Chicago that place where he used to live?
(I don't want Crissy calling me a racist)
////

404 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 11:48:21am

re: #402 sattv4u2

I know

What a bunch of pikers!
No Greek columns
No halos
No fainters!!

!!

A convention should have some drama. Clint, as much fun as he was, can't carry it all.

Of course, I spent the 2008 RNC hissing at Levi Johnson and watching for the Palin baby's next appearance, so I may be missing the point--this isn't actually a reality show.

405 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 11:52:27am

re: #404 SanFranciscoZionist

A convention should have some drama. Clint, as much fun as he was, can't carry it all.

Of course, I spent the 2008 RNC hissing at Levi Johnson and watching for the Palin baby's next appearance, so I may be missing the point--this isn't actually a reality show.

Conventions haven't had any "drama" since the '68 riots

Gone are the days of multiple ballots,,, back room deals,,, not knowing who was going to be the nominee going in ,,,

406 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 11:53:11am

re: #404 SanFranciscoZionist

re: #405 sattv4u2

Conventions haven't had any "drama" since the '68 riots

Gone are the days of multiple ballots,,, back room deals,,, not knowing who was going to be the nominee going in ,,,

These days, all it is IS a scripted reality show!

407 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 11:56:23am

re: #406 sattv4u2

re: #405 sattv4u2

These days, all it is IS a scripted reality show!

I will have to say I am a little disappointed in the anarchist in Tampa. Stoopid Jane Castor and her police force!!!

408 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 11:57:46am

re: #407 Cannadian Club Akbar

I will have to say I am a little disappointed in the anarchist in Tampa. Stoopid Jane Castor and her police force!!!

Word is they;re regrouping in Charlotte

[Link: www.wcnc.com...]

all 4 of them

409 Digital Display  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 11:59:18am

A few pointers for the DNC..
1) If your keynote speaker gets more applause for ending his speech than starting it..You're doing it all wrong.
2) Don't kiss your wife for 2 uncomfortable minutes or so on Stage.. Get a room.
3) Don't walk on stage saluting and reporting for duty.
4) Don't promise to give too much shit away. Remember 2010?
Clinton's speech will matter..Don't fuck it up.
/

410 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 11:59:59am

re: #408 sattv4u2

Word is they;re regrouping in Charlotte

[Link: www.wcnc.com...]

all 4 of them

Are the Dems calling Bank of America stadium by its name or still just referring to it as "the site"?

411 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 12:03:04pm

re: #409 Digital Display

A few pointers for the DNC..
1) If your keynote speaker gets more applause for ending his speech than starting it..You're doing it all wrong.
2) Don't kiss your wife for 2 uncomfortable minutes or so on Stage.. Get a room.
3) Don't walk on stage saluting and reporting for duty.
4) Don't promise to give too much shit away. Remember 2010?
Clinton's speech will matter..Don't fuck it up.
/

After telling people to forget about Vietnam because it was a sore spot in American history. (when talking about the sitting President at the time)

412 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 12:03:07pm

re: #410 Cannadian Club Akbar

Are the Dems calling Bank of America stadium by its name or still just referring to it as "the site"?

ihavenoidea

But wouldn't that be

"THE SITE"!!!!

413 Lidane  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 12:03:34pm
414 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 12:04:57pm

re: #413 Lidane

Some people still don't get it:

Maryland Congressman Says ‘Few Pregnancies’ Result From Rape

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[Link: bangordailynews.com...]
Heh.

415 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 12:05:22pm

re: #412 sattv4u2

ihavenoidea

But wouldn't that be

"THE SITE"!!!!

Can't piss off the 99%!!!!

416 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 12:06:32pm

re: #394 Cannadian Club Akbar

That is good because perhaps next time he _will_ be able to do it on his own. Success breeds success and all that.

417 Lidane  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 12:08:44pm

re: #405 sattv4u2

Conventions haven't had any "drama" since the '68 riots

Gone are the days of multiple ballots,,, back room deals,,, not knowing who was going to be the nominee going in ,,,

Oh, I don't know. The 1980 DNC had some drama IIRC. Didn't Ted Kennedy wait until the convention before withdrawing his candidacy?

418 Kragar  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 12:10:27pm

Romney likens the election to football: ‘It’s time to get a new coach’

I think he meant to say "It's time to get a new couch."

419 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 12:10:30pm

re: #416 William Barnett-Lewis

That is good because perhaps next time he _will_ be able to do it on his own. Success breeds success and all that.

He just needed to be shown the way and use the tools in front of him. But you are correct.

420 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 12:10:53pm

re: #417 Lidane

Oh, I don't know. The 1980 DNC had some drama IIRC. Didn't Ted Kennedy wait until the convention before withdrawing his candidacy?

He really didn't have a chance. It was more to get some platform and people in the admin that he wanted

421 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 12:11:24pm

re: #417 Lidane

Oh, I don't know. The 1980 DNC had some drama IIRC. Didn't Ted Kennedy wait until the convention before withdrawing his candidacy?

WE WANT RIOTS!!
/

422 Digital Display  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 12:11:57pm

re: #417 Lidane

Oh, I don't know. The 1980 DNC had some drama IIRC. Didn't Ted Kennedy wait until the convention before withdrawing his candidacy?

They Shot Robert Kennedy one year.
Has anyone here
Seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he is gone?

423 jaunte  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 12:12:20pm

re: #410 Cannadian Club Akbar

Are the Dems calling Bank of America stadium by its name or still just referring to it as "the site"?

Looks like Time Warner Cable Arena and Bank of America Stadium are getting full billing in the schedule.
[Link: www.demconvention.com...]

424 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 12:17:23pm

re: #423 jaunte

Looks like Time Warner Cable Arena and Bank of America Stadium are getting full billing in the schedule.
[Link: www.demconvention.com...]

I've seen articles where they won't mention BofA stadium.

425 jaunte  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 12:19:14pm

re: #424 Cannadian Club Akbar

The Democratic party sites seem to have no problem with it.
[Link: 2012.democratic-convention.org...]

Sorry, that one wasn't party affiliated.

426 bratwurst  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 12:19:59pm

re: #424 Cannadian Club Akbar

I've seen articles where they won't mention BofA stadium.

Then it should be no problem at all for you to provide a link.

427 wrenchwench  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 12:21:30pm

re: #362 ggt

It seems they also eat words. . .

And I just can't seem to get over it. :)

I lost one once that I found when I closed everything else. Have you closed everything else since it went missing?

428 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 12:22:08pm

Wasn't the 23 million a number pulled out of Clint's ass? Now Romney is repeating it?

Top 10 Clint Eastwood empty chair falsehoods

429 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 12:22:23pm

re: #425 jaunte

The Democratic party sites seem to have no problem with it.
[Link: 2012.democratic-convention.org...]

430 Lidane  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 12:23:34pm
431 jaunte  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 12:25:09pm

re: #429 Cannadian Club Akbar

Important national "news" from CNN.

432 Kragar  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 12:28:33pm

re: #428 Stanley Sea

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Wasn't the 23 million a number pulled out of Clint's ass? Now Romney is repeating it?

Top 10 Clint Eastwood empty chair falsehoods

Mitt's coaching record has him telling the team to sell off their star players to other teams, then shutting down the team because they can't compete

433 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 12:29:35pm

re: #431 jaunte

Important national "news" from CNN.

Made my point. Provided a link. Done.

434 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 12:30:19pm

re: #431 jaunte

Important national "news" from CNN.

He was asked to provide a link

he did

"football stadium"

435 jaunte  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 12:31:16pm

re: #433 Cannadian Club Akbar

Politico has it, too:
Welcome to 'Panthers Stadium' (UPDATED)

436 Kragar  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 12:32:09pm

In final interview, Cardinal says Church "200 years out of date"

"Our culture has aged, our churches are big and empty and the church bureaucracy rises up, our rituals and our cassocks are pompous," Martini said in the interview published in Italian daily Corriere della Sera.

"The Church must admit its mistakes and begin a radical change, starting from the pope and the bishops. The pedophilia scandals oblige us to take a journey of transformation," he said in the interview.

In the last decade the Church has been accused of failing to fully address a series of child abuse scandals which have undermined its status as a moral arbiter, though it has paid many millions in compensation settlements worldwide.

Martini, famous for comments that the use of condoms could be acceptable in some cases, told interviewers the Church should open up to new kinds of families or risk losing its flock.

"A woman is abandoned by her husband and finds a new companion to look after her and her children. A second love succeeds. If this family is discriminated against, not just the mother will be cut off but also her children."

In this way "the Church loses the future generation", Martini said in the interview, made a fortnight before he died. The Vatican opposes divorce and forbids contraception in favor of fidelity within marriage and abstinence without.

437 Lidane  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 12:32:38pm

Sometimes the best advice is the one you ignore:

438 Charles Johnson  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 12:35:09pm

re: #429 Cannadian Club Akbar

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This talking point is, of course, all over the right wing sites. And of course, it's false, like every other right wing talking point these days. The official site for the DNC has numerous references to "Bank of America Stadium" right on the front page.

[Link: www.demconvention.com...]

439 Charles Johnson  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 12:37:12pm

I've heard the stadium referred to as "Panthers Stadium" many times. What a ridiculous fake controversy.

440 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 12:40:11pm

re: #439 Charles Johnson

I've heard the stadium referred to as "Panthers Stadium" many times. What a ridiculous fake controversy.

You have seen the tweets about the Myrtle Beach Chamber of Commerce sand sculpture?

441 darthstar  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 12:44:20pm
442 Charles Johnson  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 12:49:09pm

re: #440 Stanley Sea

You have seen the tweets about the Myrtle Beach Chamber of Commerce sand sculpture?

No - but I just Googled it. Looks like they're all freaking out again, because there's going to be a "Mount Rushmore-like" sand sculpture featuring Obama.

Never mind that this is a sort of tradition in Myrtle Beach, and during the GOP debates the same people created a "Mount Rushmore-like" sand sculpture featuring all the Republican candidates.

Just more evidence of the evil intentions of Barack Obama.

443 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 12:52:14pm

re: #442 Charles Johnson

No - but I just Googled it. Looks like they're all freaking out again, because there's going to be a "Mount Rushmore-like" sand sculpture featuring Obama.

Never mind that this is a sort of tradition in Myrtle Beach, and during the GOP debates the same people created a "Mount Rushmore-like" sand sculpture featuring all the Republican candidates.

Just more evidence of the evil intentions of Barack Obama.

They're making a big sand sculpture of the President for the DNC, and this is a problem?

I mean, it's silly...but who cares? It's a sand sculpture.

444 dragonfire1981  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 12:54:22pm

re: #418 Kragar

Romney likens the election to football: ‘It’s time to get a new coach’

I think he meant to say "It's time to get a new couch."

Ooh, I love a good analogy.

Why don't we stretch it out and say the entire national discourse is being represented as a football game?

I would see it as follows:

- The "teams" are not Republican vs. Democrat, rather a U.S. team consisting of BOTH Right and Left leaning players AND an opposing team, representing the various outside forces the country has to deal with (foreign diplomacy, international markets, military actions, etc.).

- The Red/Blue American team SHOULD work together to help keep the foreign team under control. After all, we don't want them running up the score. Working together will also ensure that America makes our best effort to score points when the opportunity exists. The cheering fans in the stadium represent the American people, who should be applauding the efforts of their Red/Blue team as it scores points towards advances in science, education, economics and so forth.

But that's not what happening.

- The Red players on the American team are not only accusing the U.S. coach of being a secret agent for the opposing team, they are also fighting among themselves over who gets to hog the ball the most. All the Red players are convinced they've scored way more touchdowns and yards than any other players regardless of what the actual statistics are and, instead of working with the Blue players, they are sabotaging them at every turn then blaming the very same players when the opposing team starts racking up points.

- These same Red Players are also claiming they can stop this from happening by continuing to do the EXACT SAME THING.

- The Blue players are trying to convince the fans in the stadium and the observers on the sidelines (media) that the Red guys are out of control and don't really have a workable plan. They are willing to work with the Reds on a playbook but the Reds are refusing to budge.

- The coach, The President, also has a playbook and while he has tried to teach his team some creative new plays, the Red guys refuse to play along or even offer a compromise. They insist on sticking to the same playbook the team has used for a long time, despite it's spotty track record of results.

- So the game is a mess. The American team looks at times inept and other times somewhat cohesive, the opposing team sometimes gains an advantage and other times loses it. It's a constant back and forth.

- Then you have the people in the stands. The people of America. These people are booing and hurling catcalls at just about everybody on the field because they are sick and tired of the same sloppy game without any real change despite the obvious problems.

- Oh and let's not forget the crooked officials, who represent wealthy business leaders. These people, while appearing to be neutral, are in fact in the employ of BOTH teams and virtually always base their calls not on the actual established rules (laws/legislation) but on whatever outcome benefits them and their preferred team the most.

445 dragonfire1981  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 12:55:37pm

re: #442 Charles Johnson

No - but I just Googled it. Looks like they're all freaking out again, because there's going to be a "Mount Rushmore-like" sand sculpture featuring Obama.

Never mind that this is a sort of tradition in Myrtle Beach, and during the GOP debates the same people created a "Mount Rushmore-like" sand sculpture featuring all the Republican candidates.

Just more evidence of the evil intentions of Barack Obama.

Mitt Romney would like you to know he only finds sculptures of himself acceptable when they are made out of pure gold.

446 jaunte  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 12:56:35pm

re: #443 SanFranciscoZionist

Jim Hoft is all over the story
Image: fearthesand.jpg

447 darthstar  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 12:56:47pm
448 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 1:00:37pm

re: #446 jaunte

Jim Hoft is all over the story
Image: fearthesand.jpg

I'm attempting to expand who I follow on twitter to see the GOP. That was their contribution today to my balanced information gathering.

449 Lidane  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 1:00:39pm
450 bratwurst  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 1:15:04pm
451 Lidane  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 1:26:57pm

Oh geez. One of my aunts, who's a real born-again evangelical type just "Liked" Michelle Malkin's page on FB. That's disappointing.

452 reine.de.tout  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 1:31:12pm

Good afternoon, all!

re: #370 Killgore Trout

I've been experiencing blurred vision off and on for a while now. I thought it was just an out of date prescription so I went in to get new contacts but the blurred vision still persists. I made the mistake of googling possible causes. Those medical sites are scary as shit.

I've had bouts of blurry vision off and on for years; yours is probably nothing serious but get it checked ASAP.

And for gawd's sake, DON'T LOOK IT UP ON THE INTERNET, you'll scare yourself to death. Oh, wait - too late.

453 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 1:34:24pm

re: #452 reine.de.tout

Good afternoon, all!

I've had bouts of blurry vision off and on for years; yours is probably nothing serious but get it checked ASAP.

And for gawd's sake, DON'T LOOK IT UP ON THE INTERNET, you'll scare yourself to death. Oh, wait - too late.

Glad to see you made it through the storm. I took the advice upthread and bought some gatorade. If it doesn't clear up soon I'll have to go to the doc. It's really starting the effect my ability to work.

454 Obdicut  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 1:34:54pm

re: #452 reine.de.tout

On the other hand, my friend Bernie really, really did have cancer, and the only initial symptom was blurry vision. So getting it checked out is always good.

455 reine.de.tout  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 1:41:14pm

Sometimes it's as simple as not blinking enough as might happen when staring at a computer screen or doing highly skilled work that requires a good degree of concentration. My particular thing was a thyroid issue. But one of the first things they checked me for was a brain tumor.

I don't know what the gatorade is all about - hydration? But my recommendation is get it checked anyhooooo.

456 reine.de.tout  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 1:43:49pm

Well, new thread, I see! I keeled the thread! boo,hiss.

457 Obdicut  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 1:44:36pm

Holy crap.
[Link: gothamist.com...]

A Queens man was arrested by police yesterday after neighbors complained about him shooting into the air in front of his building—and cops found an insane weapons arsenal at his home. Michael Millazzo, 53, was arrested Friday morning at his home in Astoria. Cops recovered two handguns, 26 magazines, 10,537 rounds of ammunition, 32 machetes, 60 knives, 16 air pistols, an air rifle, seven tasers, eight brass knuckles, nine batons and 10 handcuffs at his place. “Eight cops were going in there like they were going for Osama bin Laden. When I saw what they came out with, I said, 'Is all this stuff real?'" Millazzo’s neighbor, Greg Alevreas, told the News.
"He's not all there. He's just odd," Alevreas added.

Millazzo, whose apartment is plastered with weapons and military-related stickers (include NRA ones), has one prior arrest in October 2004 for having five rifles and a handgun. He also has an 18-month-old daughter. Alevreas said residents were relieved he was arrested: “We’re happy that he’s gone away. If he came out and shot in the air, what’s he going to do next time?”

458 Sionainn  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 1:47:10pm

re: #453 Killgore Trout

Glad to see you made it through the storm. I took the advice upthread and bought some gatorade. If it doesn't clear up soon I'll have to go to the doc. It's really starting the effect my ability to work.

I had weird blurred vision and went to the ophthalmologist. They discovered that I had narrowed angles and performed a laser iridotomy to put holes in my iris so the fluid in my eye could circulate well. So, in my case, it wasn't major, but could have turned major if I hadn't had the procedure done and then experienced a sudden pressure spike. Go get it checked out.

459 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 1:55:43pm

re: #458 Sionainn

I had weird blurred vision and went to the ophthalmologist. They discovered that I had narrowed angles and performed a laser iridotomy to put holes in my iris so the fluid in my eye could circulate well. So, in my case, it wasn't major, but could have turned major if I hadn't had the procedure done and then experienced a sudden pressure spike. Go get it checked out.

Laser eye holes, eh? hmmm...although that sounds really futuristic I doubt it's much fun. If it's not better in a few days I'll go in. It takes a lot for me to voluntarily see a doctor but this might be serious enough to warrant it.

460 Sionainn  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 1:59:48pm

re: #459 Killgore Trout

Laser eye holes, eh? hmmm...although that sounds really futuristic I doubt it's much fun. If it's not better in a few days I'll go in. It takes a lot for me to voluntarily see a doctor but this might be serious enough to warrant it.

I've had worse done to me, but yeah, not fun.

Why the reluctance to get it (or anything else) checked out? My motto is catch something before it gets worse so treatment is less expensive, probably less painful, and prognosis is better.

461 reine.de.tout  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 2:02:33pm

re: #459 Killgore Trout

Laser eye holes, eh? hmmm...although that sounds really futuristic I doubt it's much fun. If it's not better in a few days I'll go in. It takes a lot for me to voluntarily see a doctor but this might be serious enough to warrant it.

This ought to count as "a lot". Call Monday. Please.

462 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 2:03:39pm

re: #460 Sionainn

I've had worse done to me, but yeah, not fun.

Why the reluctance to get it (or anything else) checked out? My motto is catch something before it gets worse so treatment is less expensive, probably less painful, and prognosis is better.

I don;t know. I'm just one of those people who hates going to the doctor. We tend to die earlier.

463 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 2:04:23pm

re: #461 reine.de.tout

This ought to count as "a lot". Call Monday. Please.

I think it's a holiday. It'll have to wait.

464 reine.de.tout  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 2:05:39pm

re: #462 Killgore Trout

I don;t know. I'm just one of those people who hates going to the doctor. We tend to die earlier.

geez. When the doc tells the Roi to quit smoking, he tells the doc, "There is no way I want to live to be 100". LOL. Sounds like you're on a similar page...

465 Sionainn  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 2:06:16pm

re: #463 Killgore Trout

I think it's a holiday. It'll have to wait.

Lots of doctors offices are open on Monday. The two I do transcription for are open. Don't be a dope, KT.

466 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 2:12:57pm

I might check but it's not a big deal to wait wait an extra day. I probably won;t be able to get an appointment for a week or two.

467 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 2:18:18pm

re: #466 Killgore Trout

I might check but it's not a big deal to wait wait an extra day. I probably won;t be able to get an appointment for a week or two.

If you were a real man you'd pop the eyeballs out with a rusty knife then UPS them to a clinic!

468 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 2:24:21pm

re: #464 reine.de.tout

geez. When the doc tells the Roi to quit smoking, he tells the doc, "There is no way I want to live to be 100". LOL. Sounds like you're on a similar page...

I started smoking again a while ago too so I'll have to sit through the no smoking lecture. On the bright side, I was just out for a smoke in the garden and spotted one of my new frogs on the collards. This new batch grew much larger that previous years and left the pond earlier too. They seem quite happy.

469 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 2:24:44pm

re: #467 sattv4u2

If you were a real man you'd pop the eyeballs out with a rusty knife then UPS them to a clinic!

Now that's an idea!

470 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 2:31:57pm

re: #468 Killgore Trout

I started smoking again a while ago too so I'll have to sit through the no smoking lecture. On the bright side, I was just out for a smoke in the garden and spotted one of my new frogs on the collards. This new batch grew much larger that previous years and left the pond earlier too. They seem quite happy.

Do you have a way to check your blood pressure? You can often get it checked at the drug store. Smoking raises BP and high BP can lead to pappiledema.

471 Sionainn  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 2:35:13pm

re: #466 Killgore Trout

I might check but it's not a big deal to wait wait an extra day. I probably won;t be able to get an appointment for a week or two.

I think I got in within two days of calling. ;-)

What kind of frogs do you have?

472 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 2:35:49pm

re: #470 goddamnedfrank

Do you have a way to check your blood pressure? You can often get it checked at the drug store. Smoking raises BP and high BP can lead to pappiledema.

Why did I google that?

Papilledema (or papilloedema) is optic disc swelling that is caused by increased intracranial pressure.

That's actually could be it. I've also had sinus congestion that I've just gotten used to.

473 Sionainn  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 2:36:41pm

re: #468 Killgore Trout

I started smoking again a while ago too so I'll have to sit through the no smoking lecture. On the bright side, I was just out for a smoke in the garden and spotted one of my new frogs on the collards. This new batch grew much larger that previous years and left the pond earlier too. They seem quite happy.

I hear you on the smoking thing. I'm taking Chantix again and while it is getting easier to go without smoking, I'm jonesing right now and just trying to control myself from jumping in the car and getting a pack.

474 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 2:37:23pm

re: #471 Sionainn

I think I got in within two days of calling. ;-)

What kind of frogs do you have?

Pacific tree frogs. Lovely critters.

475 Sionainn  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 2:37:32pm

re: #472 Killgore Trout

Why did I google that?

That's actually could be it. I've also had sinus congestion that I've just gotten used to.

Oh noes! KT is going to have a 'splodey head!

476 Sionainn  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 2:38:19pm

re: #474 Killgore Trout

Pacific tree frogs. Lovely critters.

Those look cool! So small, too.

477 Obdicut  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 2:38:24pm

re: #473 Sionainn

It took me five years to quit, but it's still the best thing I've ever done. Now I'm back in shape, and feel great.

478 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 2:38:35pm

re: #473 Sionainn

I hear you on the smoking thing. I'm taking Chantix again and while it is getting easier to go without smoking, I'm jonesing right now and just trying to control myself from jumping in the car and getting a pack.

Love the Chantix it's how I quit last time. The best part is the drugs gave me fantasic dreams. Unfortunately my insurance doesn't cover it. Last time I paid for it myself.

479 Sionainn  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 2:43:20pm

re: #477 Obdicut

It took me five years to quit, but it's still the best thing I've ever done. Now I'm back in shape, and feel great.

Congrats! I've quit before and then started back up again, always telling myself that it'll just be one, and then I'm right back where I started. I've got a 5 and 7-year-old and one of these days, they'd figure out what mommy and daddy are doing when they go outside for a minute. I don't want them to grow up thinking smoking is okay, plus I'd like to be around for them when they graduate. My mom died two years ago of lung cancer from smoking. She was 62. My youngest will be 21 when I'm 62. I don't want her to have to deal with losing her mother at a young age.

480 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 2:43:31pm

re: #472 Killgore Trout

Why did I google that?

That's actually could be it. I've also had sinus congestion that I've just gotten used to.

Loss of central vision is what sent me to the doctor and then the hospital several years ago during my hypertensive crisis. If you catch it early enough the papilledema will reverse itself. If it is high bp you want to get it treated ASAP though because of the risk to your other organs. I got really lucky, they call high bp the silent killer for a reason. Don't fuck around and get yourself checked out, delaying treatment can only lead to bad things.

481 Sionainn  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 2:46:35pm

re: #478 Killgore Trout

Love the Chantix it's how I quit last time. The best part is the drugs gave me fantasic dreams. Unfortunately my insurance doesn't cover it. Last time I paid for it myself.

This time, I'm not having the vivid dreams. You are lucky about having fantastic dreams. Mine were nightmares with all sorts of blood and gore and terrible things happening to my loved ones.

The Chantix definitely helps with the terrible mood one is in when quitting, but I snapped yesterday.

Sattv4u: If you are here, I'm sorry I called you an ass yesterday. I let you get under my skin and I resorted to name calling. I do apologize.

482 Sionainn  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 2:48:30pm

re: #480 goddamnedfrank

Loss of central vision is what sent me to the doctor and then the hospital several years ago during my hypertensive crisis. If you catch it early enough the papilledema will reverse itself. If it is high bp you want to get it treated ASAP though because of the risk to your other organs. I got really lucky, they call high bp the silent killer for a reason. Don't fuck around and get yourself checked out, delaying treatment can only lead to bad things.

That was my vision problem, blurriness in my central vision. I was a bit freaked out because my grandmother had macular degeneration and was basically blind the last couple of years of her life.

High blood pressure is not something to fool around with. Glad you got it treated before you had a heart attack or stroke.

483 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 3:07:37pm

re: #481 Sionainn

Sattv4u: If you are here, I'm sorry I called you an ass yesterday. I let you get under my skin and I resorted to name calling. I do apologize.

Thanks, but not even a problem

484 Obdicut  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 3:08:29pm

re: #479 Sionainn

It's really, really hard, but I promise that these days I don't even feel temptation to smoke.

485 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 1, 2012 3:10:04pm

re: #478 Killgore Trout

re: #482 Sionainn

Quit cold turkey about 25 years ago,, 1st try ever

Was smoking 2 1/2 to 3 packs a day

Threw half a pack out a van window as me and 4 friends were going cross country. Never have had an urge since, even though the other 4 in the van continued smoking (two of them still, to this day)


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