Conventions May Put Obama in Front-Runner’s Position

Signs that Romney’s campaign of dishonesty isn’t working
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According to poll guru Nate Silver, President Obama is emerging as the clear favorite in this election.

On Friday, we began to see reasonably clear signs that President Obama would receive some kind of bounce in the polls from the Democratic convention.

Mr. Obama had another strong day in the polls on Saturday, making further gains in each of four national tracking polls. The question now is not whether Mr. Obama will get a bounce in the polls, but how substantial it will be.

Some of the data, in fact, suggests that the conventions may have changed the composition of the race, making Mr. Obama a reasonably clear favorite as we enter the stretch run of the campaign.

On Saturday, Mr. Obama extended his advantage to three points from two points in the Gallup national tracking poll, and to four points from two in an online survey conducted by Ipsos. He pulled ahead of Mitt Romney by two points in the Rasmussen Reports tracking poll, reversing a one-point deficit in the edition of the poll published on Friday.

A fourth tracking poll, conducted online by the RAND Corporation’s American Life Panel, had Mr. Obama three percentage points ahead of Mr. Romney in the survey it published early Saturday morning; the candidates had been virtually tied in the poll on Friday.

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101 comments
1 diamonda2u  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 11:50:34am

Cue wingnut freak out in three, two, one...

2 Varek Raith  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 11:51:20am

re: #1 diamonda2u

Cue wingnut freak out in three, two, one...

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3 Lidane  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 11:54:05am

This is excellent news for John McCain Mitt Romney!

Honestly, watching the RW freakouts over why Mitt is losing and over Mitt embracing keeping parts of Obamacare has been hilarious and very telling.

They expected a black Jimmy Carter. They got an actual fight, and now they're panicking.

4 jaunte  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 11:54:53am
"The question now is not whether Mr. Obama will get a bounce in the polls, but how substantial it will be."

Meanwhile, from an alternate reality, Peggy Noonan:

So: was it a good convention? We'll know by the polls, by the famous bounce, or lack of it. A guess? Dead-cat bounce. Just like the Republicans got.

Maybe Mr. Clinton made a bigger, more broadly positive impression than I suspect; maybe a sense the Democrats were extreme will take hold. People left both conventions talking about only one thing: the debates. They know they didn't move the needle in Tampa and Charlotte. The people in charge of politics aren't so good at politics anymore.

The Democrats' Soft Extremism

5 Kronocide  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 11:58:51am

Oh, the debates.... should be good.

6 diamonda2u  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:00:36pm

re: #2 Varek Raith

Image: 4187100263_58d6d0a221.jpg

ROFL!!!!

7 diamonda2u  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:02:19pm

re: #5 Kronocide

Oh, the debates.... should be good.

Yeah. My thought is, can Romney top Sarah Palin with the word salad remixes? :-)

8 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:03:31pm

If Romney loses expect the RNC to institute a rule change requiring all candidates for national office to disclose at 8 to 12 years worth of tax returns.

9 JamesWI  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:03:52pm

re: #4 jaunte

Meanwhile, from an alternate reality, Peggy Noonan:

Anyone who thinks Romney has a chance in the debates is seriously delusional. From his past debate performances, to his robotic manner, to the fact that he doesn't want to talk about specifics in ANY of his policies, to the fact that his entire campaign has been based on the idea of "Barack Obama is to blame for all problems in the world"......it is going to be a massacre.

10 A Mom Anon  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:05:30pm

re: #4 jaunte

Yes Peggy,and the people in charge of punditry aren't so good at that anymore either. Does she have a drinking problem or something? Jesus that's an obtuse mess of a column.

11 Lidane  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:06:01pm

re: #8 goddamnedfrank

If Romney loses expect the RNC to institute a rule change requiring all candidates for national office to disclose at 8 to 12 years worth of tax returns.

I think at this point, they'd put in a rule requiring that a candidate has an actual set of principles before they're allowed to run.

12 dragonfire1981  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:07:33pm

re: #11 Lidane

I think at this point, they'd put in a rule requiring that a candidate has an actual set of principles before they're allowed to run.

And that he agrees not to change them for the duration of the campaign.

13 ReamWorks SKG  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:09:30pm

Oh! I got tickets to the debate at Hofstra!

[Link: www.hofstra.edu...]

(I'm a Hofstra Alum, Class of 1984 and '88, and I called up and figured out how big a check I need to write to get to see the Debate.)

14 SpaceJesus  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:10:51pm

All our gay Muslim Kenyan overlord has to do now is win a couple debates, and spend like crazy, then it's over.

15 sagehen  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:11:24pm

re: #13 ReamWorks SKG

Oh! I got tickets to the debate at Hofstra!

[Link: www.hofstra.edu...]

(I'm a Hofstra Alum, Class of 1984 and '88, and I called up and figured out how big a check I need to write to get to see the Debate.)

Did you actually phrase it that way in your request? Please tell me you had a little more finesse....

16 BongCrodny  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:12:20pm

re: #9 JamesWI

Anyone who thinks Romney has a chance in the debates is seriously delusional. From his past debate performances, to his robotic manner, to the fact that he doesn't want to talk about specifics in ANY of his policies, to the fact that his entire campaign has been based on the idea of "Barack Obama is to blame for all problems in the world"......it is going to be a massacre.

Yep.

Watching the train wrecks that were the Republican debates this year I never got the sense that Romney won -- only that everybody else lost.

17 ReamWorks SKG  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:13:05pm

re: #15 sagehen

No! That's exactly how I phrased it. I don't like to waste time. To their credit, they're trying to limit it to students. The faculty, College President, etc, will be watching the simulcast to make as many seats available to students as possible.

18 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:16:24pm

The really scary thing for the GOP, and therefore the national discourse, is that if they lose they'll interpret it to their failure to nominate someone conservative enough. So in 2016 the national party will double down on their mercenary economics, their intransigent stance against abortion, gay rights, social responsibility while raising death eater evangelism to a new fever pitch.

19 sagehen  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:17:16pm

re: #17 ReamWorks SKG

No! That's exactly how I phrased it. I don't like to waste time. To their credit, they're trying to limit it to students. The faculty, College President, etc, will be watching the simulcast to make as many seats available to students as possible.

Since yours is the town hall format, do you have good questions prepared? If not, we'd be happy to help you come up with some.

20 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:17:25pm

re: #18 goddamnedfrank

The really scary thing for the GOP, and therefore the national discourse, is that if they lose they'll interpret it to their failure to nominate someone conservative enough. So in 2016 the national party will double down on their mercenary economics, their intransigent stance against abortion, gay rights, social responsibility while raising death eater evangelism to a new fever pitch.

And we get four more years of "stop the government to stop Obama".

21 bratwurst  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:17:28pm

re: #18 goddamnedfrank

The really scary thing for the GOP, and therefore the national discourse, is that if they lose they'll interpret it to their failure to nominate someone conservative enough. So in 2016 the national party will double down on their mercenary economics, their intransigent stance against abortion, gay rights, social responsibility while raising death eater evangelism to a new fever pitch.

They usually go with whomever is next in line...and Rick Santorum just happens to meet the criteria you describe.

22 sagehen  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:18:28pm

re: #21 bratwurst

They usually go with whomever is next in line...and Rick Santorum just happens to meet the criteria you describe.

OMG.

I say again, with emphasis, O. M. G.

So Hillary wins what, 47 states?

23 allegro  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:19:03pm

re: #18 goddamnedfrank

The really scary thing for the GOP, and therefore the national discourse, is that if they lose they'll interpret it to their failure to nominate someone conservative enough. So in 2016 the national party will double down on their mercenary economics, their intransigent stance against abortion, gay rights, social responsibility while raising death eater evangelism to a new fever pitch.

Cool. Then the Democratic party can continue to rule and mayhaps institute some real progressive policies for a change.

24 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:19:31pm

re: #22 sagehen

OMG.

I say again, with emphasis, O. M. G.

So Hillary wins what, 47 states?

Against the Santorum/Palin "Ignorance is Strength" campaign, who knows, maybe 49?

25 jaunte  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:20:39pm

Obama gets a post-convention lift:
[Link: yfrog.com...]

[President Obama is lifted in the air by Scott Van Duzer, owner of the Big Apple Pizza]

26 MittDoesNotCompute  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:21:10pm

re: #4 jaunte

Meanwhile, from an alternate reality, Peggy Noonan:

Noonan's smoking some really good shit, because she's completely divorced from reality.

27 Mocking Jay  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:21:47pm

re: #25 jaunte

Obama gets a post-convention lift:
[Link: yfrog.com...]

And then the Secret Service ninjas dropped from the ceiling and everything changed...

28 sagehen  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:23:01pm

BBL, County Fair in Riverside Park.

(the Manhattan County Fair, for people who've ever seen a real county fair, is sad. Very sad. There's half a dozen rides, none of which will take people taller than 36", the petting zoo is maybe 400 square feet, there's about a dozen produce and baked goods purveyors... but the music's not bad, and it is nice weather today....)

29 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:24:33pm

re: #25 jaunte

Obama gets a post-convention lift:
[Link: yfrog.com...]

Mongo like Sheriff Barrack. What's sad is that I don't think anybody's ever been half that enthusiastic to see Mitt Romney, ever, in his entire life.

30 Mocking Jay  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:26:28pm

re: #29 goddamnedfrank

Mongo like Sheriff Barrack. What's sad is that I don't think anybody's ever been half that enthusiastic to see Mitt Romney, ever, in his entire life.

You don't see them because they're all in foreign countries.

31 Mocking Jay  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:27:46pm

re: #26 Gert Fröbe

Noonan's smoking some really good shit, because she's completely divorced from reality.

She had one good point to make, and it was about Medicaid. That's an issue that all near-seniors need to know about.

32 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:27:59pm

re: #30 Mocking Jay

You don't see them because they're all in foreign countries.

And they're all corporations.

33 Targetpractice  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:28:09pm

re: #3 Lidane

Honestly, watching the RW freakouts over why Mitt is losing and over Mitt embracing keeping parts of Obamacare has been hilarious and very telling.

They expected a black Jimmy Carter. They got an actual fight, and now they're panicking.

Yeah, the one article has it absolutely right, the wingnuts have started to move from Denial to Anger, while Romney skipped it and went straight to Bargaining. Over a year of campaigning, tens of millions spent in advertising and campaign appearances, and the best Willard has ever done in the polls is reach parity. He can't gain and maintain a lead, he can't make Obama work for the votes. And every time he tries to appeal to indies, he just comes off as insincere while his base gets more resolute in their initial decision not to support him.

34 Mocking Jay  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:28:45pm

re: #32 goddamnedfrank

And they're all corporations.

People!

35 Mocking Jay  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:30:08pm

Republican logic: Obama is too weak. So let's nominate Mitt Romney...

36 Gus  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:31:21pm
37 diamonda2u  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:31:48pm

re: #29 goddamnedfrank

Mongo like Sheriff Barrack. What's sad is that I don't think anybody's ever been half that enthusiastic to see Mitt Romney, ever, in his entire life.

I was also thinking Mitt wouldn't let a "commoner" get that close to him, let alone do more than a handshake...something might rub off

38 Mocking Jay  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:33:03pm

re: #36 Gus

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I'll bet ten dollars that Biden is making jokes about "Seaman, Ohio."

39 Lidane  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:33:09pm
40 Killgore Trout  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:34:14pm

re: #36 Gus

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That pic of Biden is hilarious. I'm kind of surprised the guy in the Obama pic isn't being pummeled by a secret service agent.

41 Targetpractice  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:34:52pm

re: #35 Mocking Jay

Republican logic: Obama is too weak. So let's nominate Mitt Romney...

That was the leadership's logic, "Anybody could beat this guy, so long as they're 'electable.'" The base's logic was "This guy's a sell-out, there's no way I'm gonna support him." Problem is, they could never find a "Not-Romney" who didn't scare the ever-loving shit out of regular voters.

42 Gus  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:36:18pm

re: #40 Killgore Trout

That pic of Biden is hilarious. I'm kind of surprised the guy in the Obama pic isn't being pummeled by a secret service agent.

Where's that one?

43 Lidane  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:36:28pm

re: #25 jaunte

Obama gets a post-convention lift:
[Link: yfrog.com...]

[President Obama is lifted in the air by Scott Van Duzer, owner of the Big Apple Pizza]

OK. That is awesome. And the picture of Biden is hilarious.

Can you honestly imagine either Romney or Ryan being greeted that way by anyone? I sure as hell can't.

44 Gus  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:37:18pm

re: #42 Gus

Where's that one?

Found it. D'oh! Weeeee!

45 Gus  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:37:39pm

Tomorrow the Romney camp will attempt to stage the same.

46 andres  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:38:01pm

re: #36 Gus

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So, The Onion wasn't entirely joking on Biden? :D

47 Gus  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:41:44pm

Kind of a description here...

48 Lidane  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:42:02pm
49 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:43:51pm

re: #41 Targetpractice

That was the leadership's logic, "Anybody could beat this guy, so long as they're 'electable.'" The base's logic was "This guy's a sell-out, there's no way I'm gonna support him." Problem is, they could never find a "Not-Romney" who didn't scare the ever-loving shit out of regular voters.

They had Pawlenty and Huntsman, but the first balked at the sight of his own shadow and the second was too sane for the rank and file. The problem is that the party is fractured and compromised by crazy ass tea party evangelicals suffering from mid to late stage mental senility. At this stage the "leadership" is just along for the ride, they managed to determine the candidate, but the candidate had to be a shapeshifting lycanthrope nobody actually likes.

50 Targetpractice  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:43:52pm

re: #48 Lidane

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"And don't judge me if things don't start happening within the first year, because it takes time for a president's policies to take effect. Now, about those million jobs Obama lost in his first six months in office..."

51 Gus  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:44:44pm

Obama and Biden sure know how to have a good time.

52 Gus  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:44:58pm

You can tell Obama likes his beer. ;)

53 Lidane  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:45:08pm
54 Gus  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:45:40pm

Romney's probably just drinking hot cocoa or something thinking about a Pat Boone song he once heard.

55 nines09  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:45:43pm

Mitt Romney has no message. The GOP on the other hand, has a very clear and concise message. The GOP has said and repeated the "platform" is NOT Mitt Romney, but a GOP platform that embraces the demise of anything ever won by Unions or Democrats in the history of this nation. I know, simplistic view. But very simple to understand when you cut to the chase. I am in the Chesapeake watershed. The money and organization against the continued cleanup and sustainable renewal of that is in jeopardy from such as "Citizens United" and other corporations citizens. The GOP as revealed here and elsewhere has not only gone off the rails but has become almost a cult. I am all for a two party system. I am all for more voices and choices. But when one party devolves into something that embraces that which is destructive and ultimately only self serving, it is the nation that suffers. I can only hope, wish and apply myself to work towards toppling the GOP as it stands today. It is broken and corrupt, and this is from a person who has voted GOP before. No more. Now I'm back to football and BBQ and beer. (Pushes soapbox away...)

56 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:46:22pm

re: #47 Gus

Kind of a description here...

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Tomorrow Ryan will claim he used to bench around 1000 lbs, back in the day.

57 Gus  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:46:44pm
58 Gus  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:48:47pm
59 Charles Johnson  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:48:50pm

re: #36 Gus

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That's great!

You have to wonder how Mitt Romney would react to being hugged like that.

Of course, no one would want to.

60 Gus  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:48:54pm

Outrage!

61 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:50:57pm

If you try to hug Romney like that his tilt circuit activates and you forfeit all credits from your untraceable pac donation.

62 Charles Johnson  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:51:15pm

Bryan Fischer's freaking out about Mitt Romney's attempt to pivot on health care:

63 MittDoesNotCompute  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:52:34pm

re: #62 Charles Johnson

Bryan Fischer's freaking out about Mitt Romney's attempt to pivot on health care:

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I feel the "OR ELSE!" vibe coming off Fischer's ultimatum.

64 Gus  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:52:34pm

re: #59 Charles Johnson

That's great!

You have to wonder how Mitt Romney would react to being hugged like that.

Of course, no one would want to.

They'll start babbling left and right about the Secret Service and security. Meanwhile, last night Mitt Romney flew from Richmond, VA all the way to Boston, MA and I was able to track the flight the whole way. Typically, the Secret Service requires that all flight for those under their protection are not trackable on the internet. Romney's MD-83 was down for maintenance and that plane is not trackable. They hopped on a the Hendrick team flight which was.

65 Targetpractice  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:53:03pm

re: #62 Charles Johnson

Bryan Fischer's freaking out about Mitt Romney's attempt to pivot on health care:

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I really do wonder what it's gonna take to finally push Fischer over the edge. What limit does Willard have to pass for Fischer to drop his support? Or is the desire for power such that he'll drag himself across a mile of broken glass just to support such a dud?

66 Charles Johnson  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:53:24pm
67 Gus  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:54:12pm

re: #66 Charles Johnson

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Burn!

68 diamonda2u  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:55:49pm

re: #47 Gus

Kind of a description here...

See this was what Romney is missing...there is nothing personable or likeable about him. If you don't like someone, you really can't trust them to be there when you need them. The economy may not be perfect, you may still be looking for work, but you want someone who you at least believe will give you the shirt off their back if that's what it comes down to. Romney will tell you "go borrow it from the other poor schmucks with no job or house".... and there in lies the difference between President Obama and Mitt Romney.

69 jaunte  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:56:13pm

Anecdotal!

70 Gus  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:59:16pm

Meanwhile in sad sack ville...

Zzzzz.

71 Gus  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:59:38pm

Yeah, sure, whatever you say Mitt.

72 diamonda2u  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 1:00:59pm

re: #70 Gus

Meanwhile in sad sack ville...

Zzzzz.

Romney is more than welcome to send his five sons over to fix that... crickets I hear? Oh wait, they have much more urgent task to fulfill to save their country... working on their pops campaign....

73 MittDoesNotCompute  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 1:01:05pm

re: #65 Targetpractice

I really do wonder what it's gonna take to finally push Fischer over the edge. What limit does Willard have to pass for Fischer to drop his support? Or is the desire for power such that he'll drag himself across a mile of broken glass just to support such a dud?

Yeah, pretty much.

If Fischer and the RWNJs don't support Romney, they cede ANY chance at the WH for another four years and they know it, hence their attempts to force Romney into line.

74 Gus  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 1:01:10pm
75 Targetpractice  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 1:03:34pm

re: #70 Gus

Meanwhile in sad sack ville...

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Zzzzz.

Neither did Bush, but let's not mention inconvenient details.

76 Targetpractice  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 1:06:23pm

Seriously, the alarm bells around a "Nuclear Iran" have been ringing for decades. Which means that every president back to Reagan has failed to halt their progress towards becoming a nuclear nation.

77 engineer cat  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 1:07:00pm

Nation Decieved By Foreign Philosophy Of Cooperation, Tolerance And Progress

preachers, carl rove seek ways of reinforcing jesus' message of self-interest and exclusivity

78 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 1:07:10pm

But Bush failed to affect it due to complex geopolitical factors, while Obama failed due to being a secret Muslim!
///

79 Obdicut  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 1:08:38pm

The biker on the right looks kind of scared by Biden. The one on the left looks soulful, as if seeing the inevitable loss of his old lady's heart to the Smooth-Tongued Silver Charmer.

Image: 653212087.jpg

80 Gus  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 1:08:44pm

Good ol' boys, bikers, and Florida. You couldn't ask for a better photo-op to connect with regular folks. Why in just three photographs Obama and Biden are looking more NASCAR than Romney's clumsy NASCAR visit yesterday.

81 Mocking Jay  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 1:10:09pm

re: #79 Obdicut

The biker on the right looks kind of scared by Biden. The one on the left looks soulful, as if seeing the inevitable loss of his old lady's heart to the Smooth-Tongued Silver Charmer.

Image: 653212087.jpg

The guy on the right is a troll. Says so right there.

82 diamonda2u  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 1:10:09pm

re: #79 Obdicut

The biker on the right looks kind of scared by Biden. The one on the left looks soulful, as if seeing the inevitable loss of his old lady's heart to the Smooth-Tongued Silver Charmer.

Image: 653212087.jpg

ROFL!!!

83 Targetpractice  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 1:10:22pm

re: #79 Obdicut

The biker on the right looks kind of scared by Biden. The one on the left looks soulful, as if seeing the inevitable loss of his old lady's heart to the Smooth-Tongued Silver Charmer.

Image: 653212087.jpg

And Jill's off to the side, holding a rolling pin.

//

84 MittDoesNotCompute  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 1:11:46pm

re: #81 Mocking Jay

The guy on the right is a troll. Says so right there.

He's also apparently an ordained minister, so there.

85 Obdicut  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 1:12:17pm

The real reason that Merkel shrugged off George Bush's attempt at a backrub was that she'd already gotten an amazing rubdown from Biden, who also helped her correct her backswing and took her for a ride in a Stutz Bearcat.

86 MittDoesNotCompute  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 1:14:51pm

re: #85 Obdicut

The real reason that Merkel shrugged off George Bush's attempt at a backrub was that she'd already gotten an amazing rubdown from Biden, who also helped her correct her backswing and took her for a ride in a Stutz Bearcat his late-70s Trans Am, the stereo blaring Journey.

FTFY...

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87 Gus  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 1:15:28pm
88 Decatur Deb  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 1:16:14pm

Can't wait until these photos hit Freep and Hot Air.

89 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 1:17:08pm

re: #88 Decatur Deb

After that happens all heck will break loose. /

90 danarchy  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 1:17:38pm

re: #84 Gert Fröbe

He's also apparently an ordained minister, so there.

Having become a legally ordained minister of the Universal Life church back in college for the hell of it, not sure that means much of anything.

Universal Life Church

91 Obdicut  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 1:17:59pm

re: #87 Gus

There's a ton of guys in the 92nd street Y talking about Obama, in much more positive terms than I've heard before. They're liking the fight he's bringing. These are mostly old New York Jews. Some are now volunteering for him. One guy got really pugnacious with another one, saying "Larry, you know you don't do a damn thing during the week so why not get out there? Besides, you might meet someone."

92 MittDoesNotCompute  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 1:18:50pm

re: #88 Decatur Deb

Can't wait until these photos hit Freep and Hot Air.

Shit, they've probably already done heat maps and stuff...

93 engineer cat  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 1:20:10pm

right wing rag the washington examiner attempts to stick the welfare work requirement lie back on the wall

[Link: m.washingtonexaminer.com...]

go ahead and read it - it's a masterpiece of claiming to prove or disprove something while doing nothing of the kind - a right wing favorite these days

94 diamonda2u  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 1:20:34pm

Another cool pic...Biden is the man... Dude is right!
[Link: twitpic.com...]

95 Lidane  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 1:20:47pm
96 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 1:23:17pm

re: #65 Targetpractice

I really do wonder what it's gonna take to finally push Fischer over the edge. What limit does Willard have to pass for Fischer to drop his support? Or is the desire for power such that he'll drag himself across a mile of broken glass just to support such a dud?

I honestly don't know what Fischer's take on Romney is. I suspect he despises Mormons, and knows that no matter how much deference Romney gives him, he will never really be 'one of us'.

OTOH, he REALLY despises Obama, and he's expected to support the GOP candidate...and the potential for access is much, much higher with a Romney administration. And deep down, what he really wants is to be Falwell. Well, secretly he really wants to be Billy Graham, but there just ain't no way.

97 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 1:24:28pm

re: #76 Targetpractice

Seriously, the alarm bells around a "Nuclear Iran" have been ringing for decades. Which means that every president back to Reagan has failed to halt their progress towards becoming a nuclear nation.

THAT DOESN'T MATTER!!

Record means nothing! Only the promise that the next guy will look REAL tough when he does the same damn thing!

98 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 1:25:12pm

re: #79 Obdicut

The biker on the right looks kind of scared by Biden. The one on the left looks soulful, as if seeing the inevitable loss of his old lady's heart to the Smooth-Tongued Silver Charmer.

Image: 653212087.jpg

That is an awesome photo.

99 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 1:26:02pm

re: #85 Obdicut

The real reason that Merkel shrugged off George Bush's attempt at a backrub was that she'd already gotten an amazing rubdown from Biden, who also helped her correct her backswing and took her for a ride in a Stutz Bearcat.

Oh God. Poor Angela. And I don't think Bush meant a bit of harm. I'm sure he gave Condi backrubs and thought nothing of it.

100 Sophist, Gingham Style  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 1:54:53pm

re: #29 goddamnedfrank

Mongo like Sheriff Barrack. What's sad is that I don't think anybody's ever been half that enthusiastic to see Mitt Romney, ever, in his entire life.

Romney has tons of people who are enthusiastic to see him. But you wouldn't know them, because they live in Canada...

101 Joanne  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 2:06:49pm

re: #62 Charles Johnson

Bryan Fischer's freaking out about Mitt Romney's attempt to pivot on health care:

And God said, Let My People Die! Amen!

Christ is spinning in His proverbial grave.


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