In Which a Dim Awareness That He Really Screwed Up Begins to Dawn on Mitt Romney

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It’s beginning to sink into Romney’s consciousness — accusing President Obama of sympathizing with terrorists who murdered a US ambassador may not have been the smartest thing he ever did, even if the Fox News-indoctrinated right wing base loved it.

Today at a campaign rally in Virginia, Romney refrained from repeating this vile and disgusting smear: Mitt Romney Tones Down Embassy Critique in Virginia.

FAIRFAX, Va. — Mitt Romney didn’t repeat his strong criticism of President Barack Obama over the response to protests at the U.S. embassies in Egypt and Libya at a campaign rally here Thursday.

He did note the death of four Americans, calling it “a tragedy to lose such a wonderful, wonderful ah, wonderful people,” as he was interrupted by protesters on site in this all-important swing state.

One protester, caught on camera by networks covering the event, shouted “Why are you politicizing Libya?” before being shouted down by the crowd, which began chanting “USA.” The protester was escorted out of the event.

“I would offer a moment of silence, but one gentleman doesn’t want to be silent — so we’re going to keep on going,” Romney said.

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421 comments
1 Eclectic Infidel  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 11:37:34am

Derpa derp.

2 darthstar  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 11:38:20am

I'm surprised Mitt didn't try the Rudy clap.

Youtube Video
3 Obdicut  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 11:38:56am

Mitt doesn't have it in him to actually apologize for crossing the line. Hell, it might humanize him. He might say something about how the tragedy had so enraged him that he'd lashed out, and that he hoped that the American people could understand and forgive his frustration in that time. That he'd learned from this experience.

But he has to pretend that he's perfection already. That's the Romney way.

4 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 11:39:44am

DERPTY DERP

5 HappyBenghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 11:39:53am

He could have used that opportunity to apologize for acting like a dick. Instead, he just acts like it never happens.

6 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 11:40:22am
7 jaunte  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 11:40:43am
“I would offer a moment of silence, but one gentleman doesn’t want to be silent — so we’re going to keep on going,” Romney said.

He can't even take responsibility for his need to keep talking, he has to put the blame on a heckler.

8 erik_t  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 11:41:02am

Way to stoop to some random dickhead protester's level, Mitt.

9 Tigger2  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 11:41:44am

re: #4 Sheila Brovlofski

DERPTY DERP

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Rasmussen must of just polled Romney's staff this time.

10 Kragarghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 11:42:12am

“I would offer a moment of silence, but one gentleman doesn’t want to be silent"

The time for that was yesterday, and yes Mitt, its true, you couldn't keep your fucking mouth shut.

11 Bulworth  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 11:42:36am
“I would offer a moment of silence, but one gentleman doesn’t want to be silent"

The time for that was yesterday, and yes Mitt, its true, you couldn't keep your fucking mouth shut.

This

12 Charles Johnson  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 11:43:07am

re: #8 erik_t

Way to stoop to some random dickhead protester's level, Mitt.

Mitt Romney has Can't Help Being a Dick syndrome.

13 Bulworth  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 11:43:16am
Obama's convention bounce is gone. @mittromney has retaken the lead in the latest @rasmussenpollbit.ly/OVEtn
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 13, 2012

Uh oh, we're doomed. //

14 erik_t  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 11:43:46am

I literally could not care less about what Donald Trump has to say about anything. It could be written in upside-down Sanskrit in crayon, on microfiche, and sitting on an extrasolar planet and it would have no more bearing on my day to day life or opinion or understanding of the world around me.

15 Kragarghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 11:44:09am

re: #13 Bulworth

Uh oh, we're doomed. //

Shall we start the Doom Song?

16 HappyBenghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 11:44:21am

re: #14 erik_t

I literally could not care less about what Donald Trump has to say about anything. It could be written in upside-down Sanskrit in crayon, on microfiche, and sitting on an extrasolar planet and it would have no more bearing on my day to day life or opinion or understanding of the world around me.

He's not even that good of a businessman from what I understand.

17 darthstar  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 11:44:24am

Yes, Mitt Romney's campaign decided today would be a good day to do something fun and start a contest to rename his plane.

I like Wonkette's suggestion:

The Plane That Belongs To Mitt Romney Who Probably Has Asperger’s And That Is Why He Does Not At All Find It Tone-Deaf To Have Private-Jet Naming Contests, Today, When The World Is Pretty Much On Fire, Right?

18 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 11:44:29am

The only difference between Bryan Fischer and Donald Trump is that Bryan has better hair.

19 HAL2010  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 11:44:29am
On Nate Silver's model, if the election were held today, Romney would have an 8.4 percent chance of winning, compared with Obama's 91.6 percent. Romney's chances were 32.3 percent a week ago. That's not a decline; it's a free-fall.

Ouch.

20 erik_t  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 11:44:39am

re: #16 HappyWarrior

He's not even that good of a businessman from what I understand.

I'm a better businessman than Donald Trump.

21 erik_t  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 11:45:07am

re: #17 darthstar

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Yes, Mitt Romney's campaign decided today would be a good day to do something fun and start a contest to rename his plane.

I like Wonkette's suggestion:

Hey everyone, come and see how rich I look!

22 Lidane  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 11:45:35am

re: #15 Kragar

Shall we start the Doom Song?

Youtube Video
23 Bulworth  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 11:46:07am

The thing that amazes me isn't so much MittBot's criticism of Obama. It was stupid and classless, sure, but not surprising.

I just can't believe he attacked our embassy itself for its statement. Most of those folks are career foreign officers. And even if they weren't, and most were politicos, they're Americans on foreign soil, who deserve some basic support and appreciation. Mitt's just a dick.

24 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 11:46:26am

bbl

25 Kragarghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 11:46:31am

re: #17 darthstar

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Yes, Mitt Romney's campaign decided today would be a good day to do something fun and start a contest to rename his plane.

I like Wonkette's suggestion:

"Fucktard 1"

26 Lidane  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 11:46:58am
27 erik_t  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 11:47:11am

re: #23 Bulworth

I just can't believe he attacked our embassy itself for its statement. Most of those folks are career foreign officers. And even if they weren't, and most were politicos, they're Americans on foreign soil, who deserve some basic support and appreciation. Mitt's just a dick.

He doesn't know that, because he doesn't know how foreign relations work. Even I know that our embassy is in Tripoli, not Benghazi. And I had to look up the spelling for Benghazi.

28 Tigger2  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 11:47:31am

re: #17 darthstar

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Yes, Mitt Romney's campaign decided today would be a good day to do something fun and start a contest to rename his plane.

I like Wonkette's suggestion:

Sociopath Express.

29 aagcobb  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 11:47:35am

re: #21 erik_t

Hey everyone, come and see how rich I look!

How about "Winged Nut One"?

30 HAL2010  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 11:47:38am

Did you just read what I posted?

According to Nate Silver, Romney would have a an 8.4 percent chance of winning if the election was today.

8.4 percent!

Eight. Point. Four. Percent.

I'll just let that sink in for a while.


8.4 percent!

31 darthstar  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 11:47:57am

re: #10 Kragar

“I would offer a moment of silence, but one gentleman doesn’t want to be silent"

The time for that was yesterday, and yes Mitt, its true, you couldn't keep your fucking mouth shut.

And we're going to cave to the will of one random person, because we're strong and we don't apologize!

32 erik_t  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 11:48:07am

re: #30 HAL2010

Did you just read what I posted?

According to Nate Silver, Romney would have a an 8.4 percent chance of winning if the election was today.

I pay the now-cast as little attention as Nate asks me to, which is not very much at all.

33 darthstar  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 11:48:46am

re: #30 HAL2010

Did you just read what I posted?

According to Nate Silver, Romney would have a an 8.4 percent chance of winning if the election was today.

8.4 percent!

Eight. Point. Four. Percent.

I'll just let that sink in for a while.

8.4 percent!

Still too high for my tastes.

34 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 11:48:55am

re: #17 darthstar

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Yes, Mitt Romney's campaign decided today would be a good day to do something fun and start a contest to rename his plane.

I like Wonkette's suggestion:

Wingnut and a Prayer
The Lay-off Clipper
Bain of our Existence
Global Warmth Express
Mormon Meteor (Oh, wait, that one's taken.)

35 Decatur Deb  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 11:49:02am

re: #17 darthstar

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Yes, Mitt Romney's campaign decided today would be a good day to do something fun and start a contest to rename his plane.

.snip

Hindenburg.

36 erik_t  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 11:49:04am

re: #31 darthstar

And we're going to cave to the will of one random person, because we're strong and we don't apologize!

Whoa. QFT.

37 HappyBenghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 11:49:27am

re: #26 Lidane

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They did that on purpose. Typical Fox.

38 Lidane  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 11:49:27am

re: #19 HAL2010

Ouch.

39 Kragarghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 11:49:42am

If they move the seats of the plane up on to the roof, they could call it "The Seamus"

40 HAL2010  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 11:50:10am

re: #17 darthstar

Yes, Mitt Romney's campaign decided today would be a good day to do something fun and start a contest to rename his plane.

The Outsourcer

41 lawhawk  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 11:50:20am

re: #34 Shiplord Kirel

Schrodinger's Mitt

42 Kragarghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 11:50:44am

"Air Farce One"

43 erik_t  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 11:51:03am

re: #39 Kragar

If they move the seats of the plane up on to the roof, they could call it "The Seamus"

Simpsons Aloha Airlines did it.

44 HAL2010  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 11:51:03am

You guys, seriously.

8.4 percent.

Holy shit.

Seriously, you guys.

45 lawhawk  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 11:51:08am

Flip Flopper One...Two...Three

46 Decatur Deb  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 11:51:45am

"Pre-existing Position".

(h/t Providence RI newspaper)

47 Targetpractice  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 11:52:16am

re: #44 HAL2010

You guys, seriously.

8.4 percent.

Holy shit.

Seriously, you guys.

Still too much time left in the election for shit to go down. Nobody expected the events of the last two days, but then again, nobody really expected Willard to so spectacularly blow off his own foot before a live audience.

48 Kragarghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 11:52:31am

"The Enola keep it to yourself"

49 darthstar  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 11:53:44am

So much for taking Mitt for a drive here...

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50 darthstar  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 11:54:19am

re: #48 Kragar

"The Enola keep it to yourself"

Enola Sensible Shoes.

51 darthstar  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 11:54:42am
52 HAL2010  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 11:55:42am

re: #51 darthstar

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GO VIKINGS! HUAH

53 darthstar  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 11:56:01am
54 Kragarghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 11:56:09am

Boykin: FRC Didn't Kill the Shooter, So How Can it Be a Hate Group?

The most interesting revelation was when Boykin, along with Barton and co-host Rick Green, wondered how an organization like the Family Research Council could be classified as a hate group when, during last month's shooting at FRC headquarters, the building manager did not kill the shooter after he had disarmed him because God told him not to:

Boykin: Let me tell you a quick thing you may not even know; the day that the shooter came in here and shot our building manager who just happened to be sitting at the reception desk that day. The building manager, after being shot, wrestled him to the ground with one arm, took his pistol away from him, bleeding profusely and started to shoot him and he said to us "God told me not to kill that man."

Now I want you to think about that. We're the hate group but he said "God told me not to kill him." And he could have justifiably killed that guy right there that had just shot him.

...

Green: What a great response by that guy at FRC. I didn't realize ... man what a witness that he did the way that he responded.

Barton: The Lord said don't shoot him and we're the haters? Nobody would have said a thing if he had shot that guy that had just shot him and shattered his arm, he was under attack, self defense, he's got a perfect right, he's an officer, he can do that and the Lord says "hey, don't shoot that guy." And somehow we're the haters in this thing. How crazy is that?

Yeah, the fact they didn't execute a man after he was taken down totally proves what great guys they are.
/

55 HappyBenghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 11:56:57am

re: #54 Kragar

Boykin: FRC Didn't Kill the Shooter, So How Can it Be a Hate Group?

Yeah, the fact they didn't execute a man after he was taken down totally proves what great guys they are.
/

I see that Jerry Boykin gets his drugs from the same guy who supplies Bryan Fischer.

56 darthstar  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 11:57:01am

re: #53 darthstar

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But asked which candidate they would bet on, in a hypothetical gamble, Obama was the odds-on favorite with 57 to Romney’s 21 percent among likely voters.

57 Decatur Deb  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 11:57:42am

"Baka"

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58 HappyBenghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 11:58:51am

re: #53 darthstar

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Heh that's really not fair to Mitt. Obama's fourteen years younger than him.

59 HappyBenghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 11:59:45am

I think Mitt Romney won the Onion's straw poll of "Which candidate would YOU most want to punch in the face?"

61 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:00:27pm

WINGNUT MATH FAIL

62 Kragarghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:01:05pm

re: #53 darthstar

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The voters forgot one important thing.

Mitt can't be bargained with. Mitt can't be reasoned with. Mitt doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And Mitt absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.

63 HAL2010  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:01:42pm

re: #58 HappyWarrior

Heh that's really not fair to Mitt. Obama's fourteen years younger than him.

On a related note (I am note aware that this has already been posted, please excuse me if it has):

In a Mass Knife Fight to the Death Between Every American President, Who Would Win and Why?

Personally, my money would be on a grande finale between Jackson and TR.
An immovable object vs unstoppable force.

64 Bulworth  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:02:02pm
WINGNUT MATH FAIL


@jdcorbin50 There's Approx 350 Million Americans. Give each One A Million Bucks That Is Only $350 Million Dollars..Savings and Stimulus!!!!!
— Rooster (@owtch) September 13, 2012

We are truly doomed.

65 erik_t  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:02:58pm

re: #61 Sheila Brovlofski

WINGNUT MATH FAIL

I was told there would be no math.

66 recusancy  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:03:04pm

re: #61 Sheila Brovlofski

WINGNUT MATH FAIL

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LOLz hahahaha

67 alansfmd  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:03:34pm

Mitt Romney was a bully in prep school, in college, at Bain, at the Olympics and in the Republican primary. He was a man who was used to getting his own way, all of the time.

He's now no longer BMOC. He's now getting called out for his bullying, and like most bullies he doesn't know how to respond.

68 HappyBenghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:03:55pm

re: #63 HAL2010

On a related note (I am note aware that this has already been posted, please excuse me if it has):

In a Mass Knife Fight to the Death Between Every American President, Who Would Win and Why?

Personally, my money would be on a grande finale between Jackson and TR.
An immovable object vs unstoppable force.

Jackson and TR would be my bet too.

69 Decatur Deb  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:05:24pm

re: #68 HappyWarrior

Jackson and TR would be my bet too.

I'm going with Nixon (via G. Gordon Liddy).

70 Kragarghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:06:12pm

re: #68 HappyWarrior

Jackson and TR would be my bet too.

Its all fun and games until FDR rides thru the crowd with the Ben Hur style spikes on his wheel chair rims.

71 aagcobb  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:06:16pm

re: #44 HAL2010

You guys, seriously.

8.4 percent.

Holy shit.

Seriously, you guys.

That is amazing, but a lot is going to happen between now and election day, and a lot of money is going to be spent.

72 HAL2010  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:06:27pm

Nixon would be my dark horse.

He would pretend to be dead, then stab the supposed winner in the back as he was celebrating. Tricky Dick would certainly be a sneaky opponent.

74 HappyBenghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:08:34pm
FunnyOrDie Video
75 Bulworth  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:08:49pm
Jackson and TR would be my bet too.

Yeah Jackson especially was quite the person. Parents both died when he was young--his mother and one or both brothers during the Revolutionary War when Jackson himself was struck on the head by a British officer; Survival a number of duels, was shot and had a bullet in him for the rest of his life, lived until his 70's in an age without much medical knowledge, etc.

76 HappyBenghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:10:39pm

re: #75 Bulworth

Yeah Jackson especially was quite the person. Parents both died when he was young--his mother and one or both brothers during the Revolutionary War when Jackson himself was struck on the head by a British officer; Survival a number of duels, was shot and had a bullet in him for the rest of his life, lived until his 70's in an age without much medical knowledge, etc.

Only president to have both parents be foreign born too. Also our first self made president. Fascinating guy. There's some I like about Jackson despite the fact I hate his policies towards Native Americans. Of course, I like John Quincy Adams too for his staunch abolitionism and being a fine diplomat.

77 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:10:53pm

re: #75 Bulworth

Yeah Jackson especially was quite the person. Parents both died when he was young--his mother and one or both brothers during the Revolutionary War when Jackson himself was struck on the head by a British officer; Survival a number of duels, was shot and had a bullet in him for the rest of his life, lived until his 70's in an age without much medical knowledge, etc.

There's a video at Cracked.com (can't link to it since it's firewalled here) about "Andrew Jackson, Most Terrifying U.S. President"

78 aagcobb  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:11:03pm

re: #73 Kragar

Romney’s Adviser Complains About Company’s High Taxes — But It Pays Just 2.2 Percent

This is why there will be almost unlimited Superpac money spent to defeat the President. How trillions of dollars in revenue gets distributed will be decided November 6.

79 Schadenfreude 'r' Us  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:11:45pm

I like Jackson and TR as candidates, but I think Lincoln might surprise us.

80 Bulworth  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:11:48pm
Only president to have both parents be foreign born too. Also our first self made president. Fascinating guy. There's some I like about Jackson despite the fact I hate his policies towards Native Americans. Of course, I like John Quincy Adams too for his staunch abolitionism and being a fine diplomat.

I totally agree on both counts.

81 HappyBenghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:12:34pm

By the way, since we are discussing Jackson. I've always thought his life would make a great bio-epic? Who do you have play him? He had a unique build. 6'1, 140 pounds. I always imagined Christian Bale as being a good Jackson, young Jackson at least.

82 The Ghost of a Benghazi Flea  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:12:48pm

re: #79 Someone Please Beam Me Up!

I like Jackson and TR as candidates, but I think Lincoln might surprise us.

Reach is important in a knife fight.

83 b_snark  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:13:37pm

I think Bruce Lee could have taken them all.

What do you mean he wasn't a president?

I don't believe you.

84 909Ghazis  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:13:43pm

re: #16 HappyWarrior

He's not even that good of a businessman from what I understand.

Trump is a great business man. He loses your money, not his.

85 HappyBenghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:13:56pm

re: #80 Bulworth

I totally agree on both counts.

A lot of people forget that before 1824 that only landowning white males could vote. Jackson took advantage of suffrage being extended regardless of landowning status.

86 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:14:39pm

re: #76 HappyWarrior

Only president to have both parents be foreign born too. Also our first self made president. Fascinating guy. There's some I like about Jackson despite the fact I hate his policies towards Native Americans. Of course, I like John Quincy Adams too for his staunch abolitionism and being a fine diplomat.

He married a divorced woman. The slut-shaming she endured was so intense that it probably contributed to her early demise.

87 HAL2010  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:14:47pm

re: #81 HappyWarrior

By the way, since we are discussing Jackson. I've always thought his life would make a great bio-epic? Who do you have play him? He had a unique build. 6'1, 140 pounds. I always imagined Christian Bale as being a good Jackson, young Jackson at least.

Except he just isn't badass enough. I mean, come on, seconds after a botched assassination attempt, his first reaction is to beat the everlasting hell out of the guy with his cane!

The man had balls made of granite, and he didn't care if he was hated. He was the honey-badger of US Presidents.

88 Kragarghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:15:18pm

re: #81 HappyWarrior

By the way, since we are discussing Jackson. I've always thought his life would make a great bio-epic? Who do you have play him? He had a unique build. 6'1, 140 pounds. I always imagined Christian Bale as being a good Jackson, young Jackson at least.

Guy Pearce would be a good choice.

Don't get hung up on height. I always thought Danny Trejo must be like 7' tall from the movies he's been in. In reality, he's 5'6". The wonders of cinema.

89 JamesWI  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:15:22pm

Obama's Intrade stock up to 65% now, up from 63.1 last night, and 61 at the start of trading yesterday.

But Rasmussen has Romney up!!!!! We win!

90 BongGhazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:16:10pm

re: #17 darthstar

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Yes, Mitt Romney's campaign decided today would be a good day to do something fun and start a contest to rename his plane.

I like Wonkette's suggestion:

How about "Air Force One Percent"?

91 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:16:12pm

re: #88 Kragar

Guy Pearce would be a good choice.

Don't get hung up on height. I always thought Danny Trejo must be like 7' tall from the movies he's been in. In reality, he's 5'6". The wonders of cinema.

Now you reminded me all over again that they chose Tom Cruise to play 6'5" Jack Reacher.

92 Decatur Deb  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:16:24pm

re: #86 Sheila Brovlofski

He married a divorced woman. The slut-shaming she endured was so intense that it probably contributed to her early demise.

Hence one of the duels, IIRC.

93 HappyBenghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:16:42pm

re: #88 Kragar

Guy Pearce would be a good choice.

Don't get hung up on height. I always thought Danny Trejo must be like 7' tall from the movies he's been in. In reality, he's 5'6". The wonders of cinema.

I was thinking more about build as a whole though. Guy Pearce is awesome by the way in Lawless, the new film about bootleggers in Franklin County, Virginia.

94 HappyBenghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:17:46pm

re: #86 Sheila Brovlofski

He married a divorced woman. The slut-shaming she endured was so intense that it probably contributed to her early demise.

It did. And he never forgave his political enemies for what they said about Rachel. It's also why he defended Peggy Eaton so ferociously in the Eason affair.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

95 HAL2010  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:17:49pm

re: #93 HappyWarrior

I was thinking more about build as a whole though. Guy Pearce is awesome by the way in Lawless, the new film about bootleggers in Franklin County, Virginia.

Any good?
Film comes out here any day now.

96 Kragarghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:17:50pm

re: #93 HappyWarrior

I was thinking more about build as a whole though. Guy Pearce is awesome by the way in Lawless, the new film about bootleggers in Franklin County, Virginia.

He was great in Ravenous and Count of Monte Cristo.

97 JamesWI  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:18:52pm

A graph of Romney's Intrade stock from the past month:

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lulz

98 HappyBenghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:18:54pm

re: #95 HAL2010

Any good?
Film comes out here any day now.

Yeah I enjoyed it. Not the best crime film you'll see but I liked it better than Public Enemies.

99 Bulworth  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:20:36pm
Now you reminded me all over again that they chose Tom Cruise to play 6'5" Jack Reacher.

Yeah, strange choice.

100 HAL2010  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:20:37pm

re: #97 JamesWI

A graph of Romney's Intrade stock from the past month:

Image: chart134745292996527409.png

lulz

I'm on Chrome, and I can't see the picture.
Is it just me?

I had this problem yesterday as well.

101 909Ghazis  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:21:09pm

The closest I want Dip Shit Mitt Romney and Lying Hatchet Boy Paul Ryan to the White House is on a tour bus.

102 HAL2010  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:21:45pm

re: #98 HappyWarrior

Yeah I enjoyed it. Not the best crime film you'll see but I liked it better than Public Enemies.

Might have to give it a go.

What is the name of the crime film with Gosling coming out soonish?

Saw a trailer that looked pretty good.

103 lawhawk  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:22:23pm

I'd lay good money on Jackson, but wouldn't put it past TR to go all the way.

We're talking some serious badasses here, but why limit the weapon to holding a knife. If you have throwing knives, that could change things considerably in favor of some of the smaller presidents (by reach).

It would actually give another advantage to the early presidents since they had more experience in close-in fighting than 20th century presidents (bayonet charges, tomahawks, knives, etc. versus fighting from aircraft, boats, etc.)

104 HappyBenghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:22:30pm

re: #102 HAL2010

Might have to give it a go.

What is the name of the crime film with Gosling coming out soonish?

Saw a trailer that looked pretty good.

Gangster Squad. Looks good to me too.

105 HAL2010  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:22:56pm

re: #104 HappyWarrior

That would be the one, yes.

106 JamesWI  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:23:07pm

re: #100 HAL2010

I'm on Chrome, and I can't see the picture.
Is it just me?

I had this problem yesterday as well.

It was working for me, then I reloaded the page and it wasn't anymore.

Here's a link to the graph page itself, (though I don't know if it will go straight to the one month, or if it will show the lifetime, and you have to select "One Month" yourself.)

107 Charles Johnson  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:23:34pm

re: #100 HAL2010

I'm on Chrome, and I can't see the picture.
Is it just me?

I had this problem yesterday as well.

This happens when the site hosting the picture uses hotlink blocking.

108 HAL2010  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:23:58pm

re: #107 Charles Johnson

Ah. Explains it.

109 JamesWI  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:25:36pm

re: #108 HAL2010

Long story short, Romney peaks up around 43% on Sept. 9, then falls of a cliff to around 35% today.

110 Charles Johnson  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:25:42pm
111 SpaceJesus  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:25:56pm

JFK would win the knife fight. Strapping and younger than the rest.

112 HAL2010  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:26:55pm

re: #111 SpaceJesus

JFK would win the knife fight. Strapping and younger than the rest.

Crippled by back problems and drug use though.

113 aagcobb  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:27:06pm

re: #111 SpaceJesus

JFK would win the knife fight. Strapping and younger than the rest.

But he had a bad back.

114 simoom  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:27:39pm

Dutch anti-Europe, anti-Islam party of Geert Wilders slammed in national elections

(Associated Press) AMSTERDAM — While the winner of the Dutch national elections is not yet certain, the biggest loser appears certain to be Geert Wilders, the leader of the anti-Europe, anti-immigration Freedom Party.

Wilders, best known for his harsh anti-Islam rhetoric, gambled that the public sentiment in the Netherlands was sufficiently negative over the euro currency that he based his campaign on bashing the European Union.

According to exit polls, his party lost 11 seats in parliament, falling from 24 to 13.

“I would have rather stood here with good news, but the voter has spoken: we have lost badly,” he told supporters after exit poll results were released.

115 SpaceJesus  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:27:54pm

re: #113 aagcobb

better than a 60+ year old Jackson

116 erik_t  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:28:35pm

re: #114 simoom

Dutch anti-Europe, anti-Islam party of Geert Wilders slammed in national elections

Geert Wilders is a piece of crap and I wish him and his party nothing but ill will from now until the heat death of the universe.

117 JamesWI  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:30:00pm

re: #114 simoom

Dutch anti-Europe, anti-Islam party of Geert Wilders slammed in national elections

Predicted headline from Pam Geller:

SHARIA-COMPLIENT DUTTCH VOTERS DECIDE TO HANND OVER CONTRY TO ISLAMO-SOCIALIST-FACEST-COMMUNSTS

118 HappyBenghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:30:17pm

re: #111 SpaceJesus

JFK would win the knife fight. Strapping and younger than the rest.

Teddy was actually younger when he became president. Which is why Teddy not JFK is the answer to the question who is the youngest man to be president. JFK though despite his youthful and vigorous appearance had his health probs though.

119 danarchy  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:30:25pm

re: #115 SpaceJesus

better than a 60+ year old Jackson

The post in question referred to what they would be like in their prime.

120 SpaceJesus  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:30:26pm

re: #112 HAL2010

He's from MA. Everyone there is crippled by drug use and physical ailments, doesn't mean they can't wield a mean shank.

121 HappyBenghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:30:38pm

re: #114 simoom

Dutch anti-Europe, anti-Islam party of Geert Wilders slammed in national elections

I'd smoke hash to that ;).

122 Lidane  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:30:55pm
123 HAL2010  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:31:02pm

re: #120 SpaceJesus

heh. I'll remember that if I ever visit.

124 SpaceJesus  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:32:34pm

Jackson in his prime would be a worthy adversary, but Obama's kitana skills would prevail.

125 Decatur Deb  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:32:43pm

re: #90 BongCrodny

How about "Air Force One Percent"?

Best.

126 bratwurst  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:32:49pm

re: #114 simoom

Dutch anti-Europe, anti-Islam party of Geert Wilders slammed in national elections

His American cheerleader Mark Steyn must be devastated!

127 Destro  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:34:02pm

I think a Republican handler - and they are all kooks and wingnuts at this point - sent that out and Romeny does not like taking walking stuff back and now he is stuck with the stupidity of what an aid said.

128 lawhawk  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:34:47pm

re: #111 SpaceJesus

The mythical fight would supposedly occur during each president's prime and minus any illnesses other than ongoing chronic injuries/illnesses over lifetime.

That means that JFK would have the skill/ability/health of his pre PT-109 injuries. For someone like Lincoln or Washington, it would be when they were in their prime, not necessarily when they were in the White House.

If we go by health and condition and skills when in the WH that changes things drastically. It would give folks like GWB, Obama, and Clinton an advantage since they are younger and in better health than others, including Jackson though they haven't had the military/fighting experience of others.

TR would be formidable under any circumstances.

129 OhNoBenghazi!  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:35:31pm

re: #34 Shiplord Kirel

Wingnut and a Prayer
The Lay-off Clipper
Bain of our Existence
Global Warmth Express
Mormon Meteor (Oh, wait, that one's taken.)

The Itemized Deduction

130 Lidane  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:36:35pm

re: #97 JamesWI

A graph of Romney's Intrade stock from the past month:

Image: chart134745292996527409.png

lulz

Obama's stock from the same time period is instructive. Funny how it really started to take off at the end of the RNC.

131 erik_t  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:36:43pm

Gaffestream V.

132 Obdicut  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:37:57pm

re: #128 lawhawk

Have you read The River of Doubt? Amazing book.

133 lawhawk  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:38:56pm

re: #132 Obdicut

I'll have to look for it.

134 Lidane  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:40:53pm

re: #131 erik_t

Gaffestream VI.

FTFY. There's even a theme song for it, sort of:

Youtube Video
135 Destro  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:41:41pm

before being shouted down by the crowd, which began chanting “USA"

Who needs detailed explanations when you have slogans!

136 makeitstopghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:41:58pm

re: #61 Sheila Brovlofski

WINGNUT MATH FAIL

[Embedded content]

I had to read that three times to make sure I wasn't reading it wrong...

137 simoom  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:42:08pm

re: #128 lawhawk

The mythical fight would supposedly occur during each president's prime and minus any illnesses other than ongoing chronic injuries/illnesses over lifetime.

You know, that reminds me. Has anyone else noticed a difference between Romney's motor function in this campaign vs. previous ones? When he walks, there is a halting, jerky quality to his movement that I notice every time I see him these days, which I don't recall from before. Maybe he's already disclosed some medical issue that explains it and I'm just not aware (arthritis?)

Perhaps we'll know more after the typical media inspection of medical records -- not sure when that typically occurs.

138 blueraven  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:42:16pm

re: #61 Sheila Brovlofski

WINGNUT MATH FAIL

[Embedded content]

Arithmetic...how does it work? - Bill Clinton

139 BeenHereAwhile  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:42:20pm

re: #63 HAL2010

re: #58 HappyWarrior

Heh that's really not fair to Mitt. Obama's fourteen years younger than him.

On a related note (I am note aware that this has already been posted, please excuse me if it has):

In a Mass Knife Fight to the Death Between Every American President, Who Would Win and Why?

Personally, my money would be on a grande finale between Jackson and TR.
An immovable object vs unstoppable force.

Having grown up among raw boned country folk, I think it would be Abe Lincoln & Andrew Jackson.

My money would be on Lincoln. Lincoln would take Jackson's measure and exploit his weaknesses. Now if we're talking Bowie knife fights, the best politician knife fighter of that day would have been Cassius Marcellus Clay.

140 Lidane  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:43:26pm

Wired: Anti-Islam Filmmaker Went by ‘P.J. Tobacco’ and 13 Other Names

He went by many names, the man who helped produce “The Innocence of Muslims,” the inflammatory video now roiling the Middle East: Matthew Nekola; Ahmed Hamdy; Amal Nada; Daniel K. Caresman; Kritbag Difrat; Sobhi Bushra; Robert Bacily; Nicola Bacily; Thomas J. Tanas; Erwin Salameh; Mark Basseley Youssef; Yousseff M. Basseley; Malid Ahlawi; even P.J. Tobacco.

But his real name — the one he used when he was sent to prison for bank fraud — was Nakoula Basseley Nakoula. His habit of adopting other identities earned him a 21-month sentence in federal prison. During 2008 and 2009, court documents reviewed by Danger Room (.pdf) and embedded below show that Nakoula again and again opened bank accounts with fake names and stolen social security numbers. Then Nakoula would deposit bogus checks into the new accounts and withdraw money before the checks bounced. The scheme worked for more than a year, until he was indicted in June of 2009.

141 HappyBenghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:44:11pm

re: #140 Lidane

Wired: Anti-Islam Filmmaker Went by ‘P.J. Tobacco’ and 13 Other Names

P.J Tobacco. That's even better than Ron Mexico.

142 aagcobb  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:44:14pm

re: #137 simoom

You know, that reminds me. Has anyone else noticed a difference between Romney's motor function in this campaign vs. previous ones? When he walks, there is a halting, jerky quality to his movement that I notice every time I see him these days, which I don't recall from before. Maybe he's already disclosed some medical issue that explains it and I'm just not aware (arthritis?)

Perhaps we'll know more after the typical media inspection of medical records -- not sure when that typically occurs.

Probably just needs to download an update to correct bugs in his new software.

143 jaunte  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:44:35pm

re: #140 Lidane

They forgot "P. A. Inacan"

144 jaunte  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:46:35pm

US stocks surge after Fed announces more help:
[Link: www.chron.com...]


New Quantitative Easing Program Ignites Stocks on Thursday

The major American stock indices continued to climb on Thursday after the Federal Reserve’s FOMC issued its press release announcing that it would begin purchasing additional agency mortgage-backed securities at a pace of $40 billion per month and continue Operation Twist through the end of the year. It was announced that the federal funds rate would likely be kept at zero to 0.25 percent at least through mid-2015.

145 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:46:49pm

re: #137 simoom

Robots still lack smoothe motor functions.

146 engineer cat  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:46:52pm

In Which a Dim Awareness

he would have been better off just to realize that the crisis makes him look irrelevant and he should keep his fool mouth shut

147 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:47:20pm

re: #146 engineer cat

yeah, kinda late to try and get out of that hole.

148 bratwurst  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:48:11pm

Anyone else noticed that Bank of America has reduced their already VERY low rate of interest on savings by 75%? I am tempted to move all of my savings to my sofa. If someone sits there and change slides out of their pocket, I will be ahead of where I am now.

149 Sionainn  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:49:23pm

re: #75 Bulworth

Yeah Jackson especially was quite the person. Parents both died when he was young--his mother and one or both brothers during the Revolutionary War when Jackson himself was struck on the head by a British officer; Survival a number of duels, was shot and had a bullet in him for the rest of his life, lived until his 70's in an age without much medical knowledge, etc.

I'm right in the middle of reading a Jackson biography. Very interesting stuff.

150 engineer cat  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:49:27pm

re: #147 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

yeah, kinda late to try and get out of that hole.

well, i think the thing is that the corner we've turned today is not, as mitt wished, that obama looks weak, but that mitt is suddenly irrelevant

151 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:49:56pm

re: #150 engineer cat

there's that as well.

152 S'latch  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:50:41pm

Sometimes being silent is the wrong thing to do. Here's to speaking out against injustice and dishonesty.

153 The Ghost of a Benghazi Flea  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:53:33pm

re: #140 Lidane

Wired: Anti-Islam Filmmaker Went by ‘P.J. Tobacco’ and 13 Other Names

There's a grifter component to the anti-Islam movement. People like Walid Shoebat (and about six other) who pretend to be repentant terrorists that will tell Evangelical audiences all about the horrors of Islam. I'm beginning to wonder if this Sam Bacile thing may have an element of coaxing money out of people to create a film, then cobbling together the offending film on a shoestring budget.

154 Ben G. Hazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:54:46pm

re: #55 HappyWarrior

I see that Jerry Boykin gets his drugs from the same guy who supplies Bryan Fischer.

They have the same dealer.

Baal.

155 Tigger2  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:57:24pm

re: #153 The Ghost of a Flea

There's a grifter component to the anti-Islam movement. People like Walid Shoebat (and about six other) who pretend to be repentant terrorists that will tell Evangelical audiences all about the horrors of Islam. I'm beginning to wonder if this Sam Bacile thing may have an element of coaxing money out of people to create a film, then cobbling together the offending film on a shoestring budget.
That Sam Bacile sounds like the GOP.

156 jaunte  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:57:32pm

re: #153 The Ghost of a Flea

There's a grifter component to the anti-Islam movement.

Speaking of which, this weekend at the Values Voters summit:

Kamal Saleem tells audiences at Religious Right conferences he is ex-terrorist, yet he refuses to provide any details substantiating his claims, and his story has been repeatedly debunked as a myth. Saleem is using his phony story to claim that President Obama is likely a secret Muslim who wants to change the laws so “terrorism will be legal” and everyone will “be wearing r-- h---ds” as part of his twenty year plan to bring about Sharia law.

157 HappyBenghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:58:32pm

re: #153 The Ghost of a Flea

There's a grifter component to the anti-Islam movement. People like Walid Shoebat (and about six other) who pretend to be repentant terrorists that will tell Evangelical audiences all about the horrors of Islam. I'm beginning to wonder if this Sam Bacile thing may have an element of coaxing money out of people to create a film, then cobbling together the offending film on a shoestring budget.

It's not even that creative. In 19th century Russia, you sometimes saw some of the same thing with Jewish converts to Christianity.

158 Kragarghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:59:24pm

re: #156 jaunte

Speaking of which, this weekend at the Values Voters summit:

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Fake terrorist says what?

159 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:01:12pm

re: #69 Decatur Deb

I'm going with Nixon (via G. Gordon Liddy).

Liddy would be too busy burning his hand in steely-eyed silence and dramatically quoting Nietzsche to actually make a move.

160 danarchy  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:01:47pm

re: #144 jaunte

US stocks surge after Fed announces more help:
[Link: www.chron.com...]

New Quantitative Easing Program Ignites Stocks on Thursday

I am just imagining Scotty at a printing press yelling "I'm giving her all I can captain, she can't take much more!!"

161 HappyBenghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:01:51pm

What I wonder about these supposed former terrorists are why none of them are in jail or being utilized by the government in anti-terrorist operations. I think it's a sham really.

162 Kragarghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:02:06pm

Who's Who at the Values Voter Summit 2012

Kamal Saleem

Kamal Saleem tells audiences at Religious Right conferences he is ex-terrorist, yet he refuses to provide any details substantiating his claims, and his story has been repeatedly debunked as a myth. Saleem is using his phony story to claim that President Obama is likely a secret Muslim who wants to change the laws so “terrorism will be legal” and everyone will “be wearing [bigoted word]s” as part of his twenty year plan to bring about Sharia law. According to Saleem, Roe v. Wade is part of a plot to “bring Sharia law liberally in our face” and that U.S. currency in some parts of the country now reads “In Allah We Trust.” Along with the Obama administration and the judiciary, Saleem says radical Islamists have penetrated the education system, medical and banking industries, the church and the U.S. military, claiming that “many generals who swore to destroy the United States of America are generals in the United States” and that the hate crimes law and contraception mandate are part of a plan to instill Sharia law and to try and go about “legalizing terrorism.”

163 HappyBenghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:04:04pm

re: #162 Kragar

Who's Who at the Values Voter Summit 2012

Islamists have infiltrated the banking industry? Gosh if you're going to be a bigot. Be creative and stop using the ones that have been used against other groups for well over a century.

164 geoduck  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:04:08pm

There was a film made about Jackson and his wife and their troubles, all the way back in 1953, "The President's Lady."
[Link: www.imdb.com...]

Jackson was played by Charlton Heston, of all people.

165 b_snark  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:04:54pm

re: #162 Kragar

Who's Who at the Values Voter Summit 2012

And people believe him?

'In Allah We Trust?' Really?

166 Kragarghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:05:00pm

Also appearing:

Kirk Cameron

Child actor Kirk Cameron has pushed hismisleading, Religious Right documentary about America’s founding to become a hero among conservative activists. After calling homosexuality “ destructive” to civilization, he faced criticism from gay rights supporters and likened his ordeal to being “drug out to the public square and stoned, so to speak.” He said that the “greatest threat we face today is the secular totalitarianism of our current system” and believes America is heading in a similar direction as Nazi Germany . Cameron in particular blames the theory of evolution for society’s problems, maintaining that an “anti-Christian agenda” is promoting evolution to diminish religious freedom.

Yeah, those damn things like facts and reasoning always fuck up mythical religious beliefs.

167 Kragarghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:06:10pm

re: #165 b_sharp

And people believe him?

'In Allah We Trust?' Really?

Well, he was the Grand Wazir of Islam, according to him. How can you not trust him?
/

168 The Ghost of a Benghazi Flea  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:07:41pm

re: #165 b_sharp

And people believe him?

'In Allah We Trust?' Really?

They want to believe. How else can they achieve sexual arousal the proper level of persecution complex?

169 HappyBenghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:07:51pm

I can see why Ann Romney decided not to attend the value voters summit now.

170 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:07:59pm

re: #165 b_sharp

And people believe him?

'In Allah We Trust?' Really?

I believe you have to check your brain at the door.

If they check and find that you have a brain, they don't let you in.

171 Decatur Deb  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:09:49pm

re: #164 geoduck

There was a film made about Jackson and his wife and their troubles, all the way back in 1953, "The President's Lady."
[Link: www.imdb.com...]

Jackson was played by Charlton Heston, of all people.

Heston also did a Jackson where Yul Brynner was John LaFitte--The Buccaneer, 1958.

[Link: www.vernonjohns.org...]

172 Kragarghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:13:42pm

Finally Romney gets some GOP support...

Akin: Obama Is ‘Apologizing Because He Didn’t Like America’

Rep. Todd Akin (R-MO) is echoing Mitt Romney’s attack on President Obama over the Cairo embassy’s statement on the Islamophobic video that preceded the fatal attack on the U.S. consulate in Libya. Akin told KMBC-TV, “First of all, apologizing to all people, [to] a lot of countries who are enemies, and apologizing to them and everything. You know, if we did something wrong, that’s one thing. But he’s just apologizing because he didn’t like America? I think that’s the wrong thing to do.”

173 HappyBenghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:15:31pm

re: #172 Kragar

Finally Romney gets some GOP support...

Akin: Obama Is ‘Apologizing Because He Didn’t Like America’

Heh just the guy Mitt needed to support his asshole behavior. An even greater asshole. Really though, I am amazed with how calm Obama is with these guys. They actually accuse him of hating America. Fucking bastards.

174 b_snark  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:15:42pm

re: #172 Kragar

Finally Romney gets some GOP support...

Akin: Obama Is ‘Apologizing Because He Didn’t Like America’

Exactly to whom, when and for what did Obama apologize?

175 erik_t  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:16:26pm

re: #173 HappyWarrior

Heh just the guy Mitt needed to support his asshole behavior. An even greater asshole. Really though, I am amazed with how calm Obama is with these guys. They actually accuse him of hating America. Fucking bastards.

I'm no longer certain that Akin is a bigger asshole than Romney. Probably less-well informed, but maybe not a bigger asshole.

176 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:16:38pm

The similarity in this particular talking point is amazing. Like drones just repeating words without understanding meaning, context, or the inherent stupidity of the claim.

177 Kragarghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:16:47pm

re: #174 b_sharp

Exactly to whom, when and for what did Obama apologize?

It happened right when shut up.

178 HappyBenghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:17:48pm

re: #175 erik_t

I'm no longer certain that Akin is a bigger asshole than Romney. Probably less-well informed, but maybe not a bigger asshole.

You make a fair point.

179 The Ghost of a Benghazi Flea  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:17:50pm

re: #174 b_sharp

Exactly to whom, when and for what did Obama apologize?

Brown pagans

180 Kragarghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:17:55pm

New York GOP State Senate Candidate Attacks Primary Opponent For Being Friendly With Gays

Hours before today’s primary elections, Republican state senate candidate Juan Reyes attacked his opponent New York City Councilman Eric Ulrich for being too friendly with the LGBT community.

“Ulrich and his wife became known as frequent dinner companions of an openly gay Democrat Councilman and his husband. No one cared about that,” the mailer stated (emphasis in the original). The pamphlet goes on to accuse Ulrich of such “liberal” misdeeds as hiring openly gay staff members and voting in favor of same-sex marriage while on the city council.

So virulently anti-gay was Reyes’ mailer that his own former boss, longtime ally to the LGBT community and former Republican Mayor Rudy Giuliani, nixed his plans to remain neutral during the primaries and instead rushed to defend Ulrich in the Wall Street Journal:

GIULIANI: After seeing what his campaign has done, which is disgusting, Juan doesn’t belong in politics. I don’t know where he belongs, but he belongs someplace else… I find these attacks, the gay-bashing attacks, childish, silly, and a real indication you don’t belong in public service.

181 Lidane  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:17:57pm

re: #169 HappyWarrior

I can see why Ann Romney decided not to attend the value voters summit now.

Too bad her husband has to pander to those nutjobs if he's going to have any hope of winning.

182 HappyBenghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:18:50pm

re: #180 Kragar

New York GOP State Senate Candidate Attacks Primary Opponent For Being Friendly With Gays

Well Rudy while I am not a fan shows why I think he's more decent than most Republicans these days.

183 makeitstopghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:19:29pm

From Facebook, in reaction to the Wonkette jet-naming post:

Friend #1: Spruce Goose, comes to mind. You know the plane that never got off the ground.

Me: Hindenburg would also be applicable.

Friend #2: Whoa. The Spruce Goose flew for almost an entire mile.

Friend #1: So did Romney's campaign.

184 b_snark  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:19:48pm

Would any of these RWNJs actually recognize an apology if you hit them upside the head with it?

Seriously, can they understand the nuances behind a sincere apology?

185 Lidane  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:19:50pm

re: #174 b_sharp

Exactly to whom, when and for what did Obama apologize?

Look! Shiny things!

Why do you hate America?

186 HappyBenghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:21:34pm

They've been saying Obama apologizes since January 20th 2009. They never prove it though. They just say it because if you repeat bullshit enough people start to believe it.

187 b_snark  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:22:04pm

re: #179 The Ghost of a Flea

Brown pagans

I'm usually lily white, but I can tan. My arms right now are as brown as my wife. Does that mean I'm OK during the winter but some kind of nasty threat/dummy by the end of summer?

188 Charles Johnson  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:23:40pm

re: #184 b_sharp

Would any of these RWNJs actually recognize an apology if you hit them upside the head with it?

Seriously, can they understand the nuances behind a sincere apology?

These are people who never apologize for anything they do or say.

189 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:23:50pm

re: #180 Kragar

New York GOP State Senate Candidate Attacks Primary Opponent For Being Friendly With Gays


GIULIANI: After seeing what his campaign has done, which is disgusting, Juan doesn’t belong in politics. I don’t know where he belongs, but he belongs someplace else… I find these attacks, the gay-bashing attacks, childish, silly, and a real indication you don’t belong in public service.

Interesting. So what percentage of current Republican officeholders nationwide do you suppose Giuliani would say don't belong in public service?

190 HappyBenghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:24:47pm

re: #189 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

Interesting. So what percentage of current Republican officeholders nationwide do you suppose would Guiliani say don't belong in public service?

Tea Party Kingmaker, Jim DeMint is famous for saying that you can't be a fiscal conservative without being a social one. Which is laughable considering social conservatism results in fiscally reckless policies.

191 Kragarghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:24:53pm

My total reality has been shattered...

Russia's Vladimir Putin admits wildlife stunts are staged

Although Putin's spokesman has previously revealed that at least one of the stunts was a set-up, Putin until now has appeared to play along with the exercises, allowing state media to present them as they seem rather than how they really are.

But in a rare meeting with a Kremlin critic after his latest wildlife stunt - taking to the skies in a light aircraft with a group of cranes last week - Putin admitted he had often taken part in media exercises which were carefully staged.

192 b_snark  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:25:14pm

re: #185 Lidane

Cause I'm a foreign national sneaking across your borders.

193 Kragarghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:26:24pm

re: #189 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

Interesting. So what percentage of current Republican officeholders nationwide do you suppose would Guiliani say don't belong in public service?

I would say 95% +/- 5%.

194 jaunte  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:26:27pm

Today in Not Journalism.

Fox News, Drudge, Breitbart, RedState, and a eleventy billion other right wing blogs have picked up on a "story" about US Marines not being allowed to carry live ammuniton at the embassy in Cairo, Egypt.
...
(According to USMC blogs. Ok. What blogs? Got a link? No? How about the name of the blog at least? Anything? If it's a reliable source posting on a forum then what's his or her name?

Time says that this comes from John McCreary, a former veteran Defense Intelligence Agency analyst, but they also mention that they can't even find these blogs...)

195 b_snark  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:28:02pm

re: #188 Charles Johnson

These are people who never apologize for anything they do or say.

They have no clue they're wrong.
When you take a clue bat to them, in their minds, you're to blame.

196 Kragarghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:33:49pm

Poll: 54 Percent Blame Bush And GOP For Economic Woes

More than half of voters nationwide attribute the country's current economic problems to former President George W. Bush and Republicans as opposed to President Barack Obama and the Democrats, a new poll released Thursday shows.

The latest release from CNN shows that 54 percent of likely voters think Bush and his Republican colleagues are more to blame for the still-sluggish national economy, compared with 38 percent who blame Obama and the Democrats.

It should be noted that this is not a new trend. CNN has found that at least 50 percent of Americans pin the lion's share of the blame for nation's economic woes on Bush and the GOP dating back to September of 2010. Other polls have shown a similar pattern.

THE ECONOMY IS A DISTRACTION... Wait a sec

197 HappyBenghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:34:52pm

re: #196 Kragar

Poll: 54 Percent Blame Bush And GOP For Economic Woes

THE ECONOMY IS A DISTRACTION... Wait a sec

STOP BLAMING BUSH! IT"S ALL OBAMA and JIMMY CARTER'S FAULT!

198 HappyBenghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:35:41pm

By the way, I don't know if any of you have seen the Obama education ad with the two parents but I think it's a good one. I didn't know Romney shrugged off smaller class sizes. Really, as someone who benefited from that, Romney can politely shut up.

199 Kragarghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:37:04pm

re: #197 HappyWarrior

STOP BLAMING BUSH! IT"S ALL OBAMA and JIMMY CARTER'S FAULT!

Don't forget the Soviet Union!

200 Kragarghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:38:30pm

Lawsuit: Sheriff Arpaio’s Jail Denied Medicine To Diabetic Inmate, Causing her Death

The local ABC affiliate reports on the circumstances that led to Deborah Braillard’s death, after she was detained for a minor drug possession charge:

Witness[es] said that Deborah was constantly moaning and crying out in pain, asking for help, repeatedly vomiting, defecating on herself and having seizures.

“She would shake. Her body would stiffen up,” said Tamela Harper, an inmate in the jail with Braillard. “They never did anything to help her.”

Inmates said they begged officers to do something.

“They were telling everyone, ‘There’s nothing we can do about it. This is jail. Get over it,”’ Harper said.

Harper added that officers said Braillard was “kicking drugs” and that she was “getting what she deserved.”

Medical reports would later prove the guards were wrong.

Fry them.

201 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:38:57pm

Time to think outside the box and concentrate on the Foreign Economy. Let's blame China and India for everything!

(Oh crap. Bain supported outsourcing of jobs. Never mind.)

202 HappyBenghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:39:13pm

re: #200 Kragar

Lawsuit: Sheriff Arpaio’s Jail Denied Medicine To Diabetic Inmate, Causing her Death

Fry them.

"America's toughest sheriff" strikes again.

203 spiderx  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:39:23pm

here is FOX going into full propaganda mode to save Romney. Notice how they even have Kirsten Powers serving as their useful idiot. FOX does this all the time. They put one of their FOX Democrats on a panel to agree with the other republicans on the panel to create the impression that what the panel is saying couldn't possibly be argued against.

[Link: www.mediaite.com...]

204 darthstar  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:41:53pm

One of my facebook friends who has "Atlas Shrugged" as his profile pic posted a link to the Daily Caller claiming Obama's helping Egypt buy German submarines so they can attack Israel.

I wrote back, "If you're reading the daily caller and taking it seriously, you need to add another layer of tin foil to your Ayn Rand underwear."

205 Kragarghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:42:56pm

re: #204 darthstar

One of my facebook friends who has "Atlas Shrugged" as his profile pic posted a link to the Daily Caller claiming Obama's helping Egypt buy German submarines so they can attack Israel.

I wrote back, "If you're reading the daily caller and taking it seriously, you need to add another layer of tin foil to your Ayn Rand underwear."

Why would Egypt need subs to attack Israel?

206 erik_t  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:43:40pm

re: #205 Kragar

Why would Egypt need subs to attack Israel?

Because the Suez Canal is in the way. Like, duh. Don't you know ANYTHING?!

/

207 HappyBenghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:43:43pm

re: #203 spiderx

here is FOX going into full propaganda mode to save Romney. Notice how they even have Kirsten Powers serving as their useful idiot. FOX does this all the time. They put one of their FOX Democrats on a panel to agree with the other republicans on the panel to create the impression that what the panel is saying couldn't possibly be argued against.

[Link: www.mediaite.com...]

I was always amused what they did with Alan Colmes and Sean Hannity. Have an obnoxious right wing dick with a more mild mannered liberal and pass it off as "bipartisan."

208 b_snark  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:45:21pm

re: #205 Kragar

Why would Egypt need subs to attack Israel?

They're Sand Subs.

209 HappyBenghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:47:13pm

re: #204 darthstar

One of my facebook friends who has "Atlas Shrugged" as his profile pic posted a link to the Daily Caller claiming Obama's helping Egypt buy German submarines so they can attack Israel.

I wrote back, "If you're reading the daily caller and taking it seriously, you need to add another layer of tin foil to your Ayn Rand underwear."

Better why would Germany let their submarines be sold to attack Israel? Conspiracies, you can't explain them.

210 jaunte  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:47:39pm

Unterwüsteboote

211 iossarian  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:48:18pm

re: #210 jaunte

Unterwüsteboote

Boots that go under sausages?

212 erik_t  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:48:59pm

re: #208 b_sharp

They're Sand Subs.

The sub-spice must flow.

213 Digital Display  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:49:07pm

Silent Electric Subs in the Med could be very problematic. Of course it gives us the chance to train Israel in ASW warfare

214 spiderx  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:49:53pm

re: #207 HappyWarrior

I was always amused what they did with Alan Colmes and Sean Hannity. Have an obnoxious right wing dick with a more mild mannered liberal and pass it off as "bipartisan."

also notice how FOX never actually put up the Romney quote that is the most tasteless. The one where he says Obama sympathizes with the attackers.

215 dragonfire1981  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:50:43pm

I know I'm a little late to the Romney plane naming party, but I was thinking in honor of this years RNC:

Chair Force One

216 simoom  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:51:28pm

[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]

A fight to end the fighting at US embassy in Cairo

The journalist and author Ashraf Khalil is at the scene of clashes outside the US embassy in Cairo. The scene he paints muddies a bit the picture of who's enraged at whom:

217 erik_t  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:52:59pm

re: #213 Digital Display

Silent Electric Subs in the Med could be very problematic. Of course it gives us the chance to train Israel in ASW warfare

The Israelis already have more than enough competence with their submarine force. If they'd like more, they can feel free to buy more expertise off of us.

218 b_snark  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:53:18pm

re: #213 Digital Display

Silent Electric Subs in the Med could be very problematic. Of course it gives us the chance to train Israel in ASW warfare

Silent pedal subs would be even worse. Unless they eat cabbage.

219 jaunte  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:53:48pm

Wingnuts Claim Obama's Ambassador to Egypt Forbade Marines From Carrying Live Ammo

Early this morning, conservative military bloggers began to float reports that the US ambassador to Egypt, Anne Patterson, did not permit US Marine security guards to carry live ammunition. Within hours, this "no ammo" rumor in response to the embassy attack in Cairo lit up right-wing social media, with the allegation unquestioningly blamed on the White House. Conservative thought-leaders and pundits led the charge:

220 makeitstopghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:54:21pm

re: #207 HappyWarrior

I was always amused what they did with Alan Colmes and Sean Hannity. Have an obnoxious right wing dick with a more mild mannered liberal and pass it off as "bipartisan."

And Colmes was really quite good back when he had a show on WOR in NYC. They must have paid him a pile of money to act like Hannity's doormat - he's actually much smarter than that.

221 erik_t  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:54:45pm

Erick son of Erick would really prefer to go back to spending trillions of dollars blowing up random brown people and failing to kill bin Ladin.

222 jaunte  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:55:49pm

re: #221 erik_t

I assume he's not volunteering to serve.

223 Kragarghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:55:56pm

re: #219 jaunte

Wingnuts Claim Obama's Ambassador to Egypt Forbade Marines From Carrying Live Ammo

I don't trust sources named after the secret police from Babylon 5.

224 Digital Display  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:56:31pm

re: #218 b_sharp

Silent pedal subs would be even worse. Unless they eat cabbage.

It's funny but electric subs are near impossible to detect in the short term.. The second they fire up the diesel to recharge the batteries they are dead meat.

225 b_snark  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:56:58pm

re: #221 erik_t

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Erick son of Erick would really prefer to go back to spending trillions of dollars blowing up random brown people and failing to kill bin Ladin.

I don't believe Iraq had anything to do with killing bin Laden.

226 steve_davis  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:58:43pm

re: #68 HappyWarrior

Jackson and TR would be my bet too.

abraham lincoln. As a younger man, he could hold a long-handled axe out at shoulder height, by the end of the handle. And this came in handy during the battles with zombies and vampires.

227 Kragarghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:58:59pm

re: #225 b_sharp

I don't believe Iraq had anything to do with killing bin Laden.

You're ruining the narrative!
/

228 HappyBenghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:59:13pm

re: #221 erik_t

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Erick son of Erick would really prefer to go back to spending trillions of dollars blowing up random brown people and failing to kill bin Ladin.

Heh Mom Jeans is that what he calls killing more terrorists than Bush has? Really Erickson should just admit that his problem isn't with the policy but with the guy in charge.

229 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:00:03pm

re: #224 Digital Display

It's funny but electric subs are near impossible to detect in the short term.. The second they fire up the diesel to recharge the batteries they are dead meat.

Or run out of mulberry leaves from powering the caterpillar drive.
;)

230 Kragarghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:01:11pm

We had to invade Iraq, because of WMDs, but we didn't find any, so it was because we were bringing democracy to the region, except Middle Easterners aren't civilized enough to do it the way we like, so its all Obama's fault for being a big fat stupid head.
///

231 darthstar  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:02:24pm
232 dragonath  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:02:26pm

Mom jeans.

233 darthstar  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:02:58pm

Feel the Mittmentum.

234 HappyBenghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:04:00pm

re: #231 darthstar

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I'm not surprised. NoVa is Obama turf and IMO the key to Obama winning the state a second time.

235 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:04:28pm

ooo... Just hit the spellchecker windows in an odd way and crashed Firefox. (Snuck it onto the work laptop to avoid the IE8 - LGF issues.)

236 dragonath  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:05:03pm

Is CNN the mom jeans of cable news?

237 darthstar  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:05:39pm

Image: 60813.jpg

238 jaunte  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:05:49pm

Already God-Soaked Presidential Campaign About To Get Another Dose Of That Old-Time Religion

Americans weary of the amount of “God talk” in the presidential campaign had better brace themselves. We may be about to hear a lot more, warns Americans United for Separation of Church and State.

This weekend, Religious Right activists from across the country are gathering in Washington, D.C., to attend the annual “Values Voter Summit” sponsored by the Family Research Council (FRC) and allied groups. The confab is an effort to put the focus on social issues during a time when most voters say the economy is their number one concern.
....
This year, attendees will hear from GOP vice presidential hopeful Paul Ryan, House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, several Republican senators and members of Congress, among others – despite the Summit’s sponsorship by organizations identified as hate groups by the Southern Poverty Law Center.

239 Ben G. Hazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:06:37pm

re: #208 b_sharp

They're Sand Subs.

The military version of Land Sharks:

[Link: www.spike.com...]

240 darthstar  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:07:25pm
241 CarolJ  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:07:42pm

re: #153 The Ghost of a Flea

It's quite likely. I can see him fleecing a few true believers because he's the '"only one to tell the truth" and willing to make the movie. And he was. Nobody with any real hopes of ever working anywhere else would have touched this subject with an 100 ft pole . Therefore he probably posed as a persecuted filmmaker with phony credentials who needed money to make a movie that no regular studio would even touch. The trailer might have been the bait-just enough to allay suspicions, with a pitch that said that to make a whole movie he just needed more and more money for "expenses" .

242 engineer cat  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:08:23pm

re: #226 steve_davis

abraham lincoln. As a younger man, he could hold a long-handled axe out at shoulder height, by the end of the handle. And this came in handy during the battles with zombies and vampires.

all andy jackson needed ta done was look at em & they woulda git

he was like that, andy was

243 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:08:26pm

re: #238 jaunte

Already God-Soaked Presidential Campaign About To Get Another Dose Of That Old-Time Religion

Ah. I see more Obama ad materials being generated.

Will there be a post-election conspiracy theory that this was done on purpose to sabotage the Romney campaign?
:p

244 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:08:36pm

re: #63 HAL2010

On a related note (I am note aware that this has already been posted, please excuse me if it has):

In a Mass Knife Fight to the Death Between Every American President, Who Would Win and Why?

Personally, my money would be on a grande finale between Jackson and TR.
An immovable object vs unstoppable force.

No, in a mass fight obvious threats like Jackson and TR would get ganged up on.

245 engineer cat  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:09:44pm

Wingnuts Claim Obama's Ambassador

desperate wingnuts are desperate

246 Kragarghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:09:50pm

re: #244 Dark_Falcon

No, in a mass fight obvious threats like Jackson and TR would get ganged up on.

Which is why I decided on FDR going Benhur on the lot of them.

247 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:10:41pm

re: #226 steve_davis

abraham lincoln. As a younger man, he could hold a long-handled axe out at shoulder height, by the end of the handle. And this came in handy during the battles with zombies and vampires.

He was very tall, which would give him a serious reach advantage. And he knew how to use a Bowie knife, another not-small advantage.

248 darthstar  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:11:39pm

re: #247 Dark_Falcon

He was very tall, which would give him a serious reach advantage. And he knew how to use a Bowie knife, another not-small advantage.

Yeah, but 'accidentally' drop a penny in front of him and when he bends over to get it for you a quick knee to the beard and he's out.

249 dragonfire1981  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:11:40pm

re: #247 Dark_Falcon

He was very tall, which would give him a serious reach advantage. And he knew how to use a Bowie knife, another not-small advantage.

He could also hide all kinds of nasty surprises under that hat if he wanted to...

250 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:11:58pm

OT: But has anyone else noticed a significant slow down in reloading longer threads that have tweets embedded in them? My system just sits and spins sometimes waiting for a minute or three for responses from twitter.com (according to the status bar at least). I'm just curious if anyone else has such a slowdown or if it's simply my 10 year old Dell showing it's age. If the latter, I just need to learn to live with as it's going to be a long while before I can upgrade.

Xubuntu 12.04/Chromium Version 22.0.1201.0 Ubuntu 12.04 (145644) though the system itself is an old Dell C640 1.8ghz P4M w/ 2 gb ram.

251 allegro  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:12:15pm

re: #247 Dark_Falcon

He was very tall, which would give him a serious reach advantage. And he knew how to use a Bowie knife, another not-small advantage.

Clinton would lull them all into submission with his sax, single malt, and yanno, cigars.

252 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:12:22pm

re: #244 Dark_Falcon

No, in a mass fight obvious threats like Jackson and TR would get ganged up on.

Also note that the original specs were "best health any time during their term", so you're getting older men in a number of cases despite having military training and such. So this will be the JFK with the back injuries and other maladies, and older versions of Washington, Jackson, etc.

Which will favor a bit more those that are were POTUS at a younger age.

253 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:13:37pm

re: #246 Kragar

Which is why I decided on FDR going Benhur on the lot of them.

It depends. If you mean "every president" in the condition they were in as president, then maybe. If it was every president as they were in their physical prime, then FDR would have the same issue as TR. Before he contracted polio he was 6'2", and even afterward his upper-body strength was very high. FDR in his prime would have been hellish to face with an edged weapon for the same reasons as TR: strong, smart, and utterly resolute.

254 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:14:39pm

re: #250 William Barnett-Lewis

OT: But has anyone else noticed a significant slow down in reloading longer threads that have tweets embedded in them? My system just sits and spins sometimes waiting for a minute or three for responses from twitter.com (according to the status bar at least). I'm just curious if anyone else has such a slowdown or if it's simply my 10 year old Dell showing it's age. If the latter, I just need to learn to live with as it's going to be a long while before I can upgrade.

Xubuntu 12.04/Chromium Version 22.0.1201.0 Ubuntu 12.04 (145644) though the system itself is an old Dell C640 1.8ghz P4M w/ 2 gb ram.

I see longer threads causing Firefox (and IE8 even moreso) to sort of hang up while updating and just have a spinning update icon for extended periods of time. I have to constantly reload the page once the comments get past 200 or so.

Work laptop has more issues than home laptop. Which makes me think some of the issue is network latency, proxy server, and security scanning not liking things and taking longer and longer to "clear" things to be viewed.

255 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:14:42pm

re: #250 William Barnett-Lewis

OT: But has anyone else noticed a significant slow down in reloading longer threads that have tweets embedded in them? My system just sits and spins sometimes waiting for a minute or three for responses from twitter.com (according to the status bar at least). I'm just curious if anyone else has such a slowdown or if it's simply my 10 year old Dell showing it's age. If the latter, I just need to learn to live with as it's going to be a long while before I can upgrade.

Xubuntu 12.04/Chromium Version 22.0.1201.0 Ubuntu 12.04 (145644) though the system itself is an old Dell C640 1.8ghz P4M w/ 2 gb ram.

Yes. I get it on Chrome @ home but not (noticeably) Firefox @ work. It seems like a lot of time is spent waiting for things to load from twitter. My home machine is a 2-year-old Dell laptop running Windows 7.

256 darthstar  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:16:05pm

George H.W. Bush would win the knife fight, because Barbara would be walking around the room ripping everyone elses heads off and sucking the juices out of them like crayfish.

257 gwangung  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:16:26pm

re: #221 erik_t

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Erick son of Erick would really prefer to go back to spending trillions of dollars blowing up random brown people and failing to kill bin Ladin.

He must really hate all those Libyan crowds holding candlelight vigils expressing sympathy and regret for the embassy attack.

258 darthstar  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:17:18pm

Note to self: If someone called Anonymous offers you a job as their public spokesperson, don't take it.

259 jaunte  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:18:33pm

re: #258 darthstar

Barrett Brown?

260 dragonath  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:18:42pm

You guys underrate Jimmy Carter. He had to enter a nuclear plant undergoing a criticality accident. That means when he gets mad he turns into the Incredible Hulk.

261 Lidane  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:19:15pm

Could someone please give these assholes a sense of perspective?

262 erik_t  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:19:36pm

re: #261 Lidane

Could someone please give these assholes a sense of perspective?

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But I thought waterboarding wasn't bad. Which is it?

263 Kragarghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:19:50pm

re: #259 jaunte

Barrett Brown?

Yup

264 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:20:16pm

re: #256 darthstar

George H.W. Bush would win the knife fight, because Barbara would be walking around the room ripping everyone elses heads off and sucking the juices out of them like crayfish.

There is an interesting variation - which would be the best POTUS and First Lady team? You get to add some very resolute (and probably quite dangerous) women to the equation. If Mary Todd Lincoln goes berserk with Abe in support we could have a winna!

265 darthstar  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:20:39pm

re: #259 jaunte

Barrett Brown?

Holy crap...he makes James O'Keefe look like a stud.

Image: barrett-300x198.jpg

266 Kragarghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:21:28pm

Barret Browns arrest occurred while he was on a video chat with Anon, its on youtube.

Youtube Video
267 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:21:37pm

re: #259 jaunte

Barrett Brown?

Yup
Anonymous member arrested during online chat after threat against FBI
I told him the feds were probably watching him, he thought it was outrageous.

268 darthstar  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:21:39pm

re: #264 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

There is an interesting variation - which would be the best POTUS and First Lady team? You get to add some very resolute (and probably quite dangerous) women to the equation. If Mary Todd Lincoln goes berserk with Abe in support we could have a winna!

Well, we know one first lady who did have experience killing people...Laura Bush (waiting for DF downding in 3..2..1..)

269 Stanghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:21:49pm

[Link: in.reuters.com...]

Barrett Brown arrested.

270 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:21:51pm

re: #261 Lidane

Could someone please give these assholes a sense of perspective?

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Everybody just leave poor Mitt alone. Otherwise he might start to cry and damage his delicate electronics.

271 dragonfire1981  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:22:08pm

I don't want to get myself in any trouble, but suffice to say I am glad Barrett is not around these parts anymore.

272 jaunte  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:24:52pm

re: #267 Killgore Trout

Did he think it was outrageous/improbable, or outrageous/"how could they do this to me?"

273 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:25:18pm

Supposed live chat video of the FBI raid on Barrett Brown. Shenanigans at 1min 30 seconds.

Youtube Video
274 Ben G. Hazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:25:20pm

re: #258 darthstar

Note to self: If someone called Anonymous offers you a job as their public spokesperson, don't take it.

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Ahh, Barrett Brown.

Couldn't have happened to a nicer POS...

275 Lidane  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:25:22pm

re: #270 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

Everybody just leave poor Mitt alone. Otherwise he might start to cry and damage his delicate electronics.

276 Lidane  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:26:08pm

re: #274 Gert Fröbe

Ahh, Barrett Brown.

Couldn't have happened to a nicer POS...

That douche got banned from here, right? I tend to tune the Anon morons out.

277 Kragarghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:26:15pm

re: #264 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

There is an interesting variation - which would be the best POTUS and First Lady team? You get to add some very resolute (and probably quite dangerous) women to the equation. If Mary Todd Lincoln goes berserk with Abe in support we could have a winna!

I think President and VP would be interesting.

278 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:26:27pm

re: #258 darthstar

Note to self: If someone called Anonymous offers you a job as their public spokesperson, don't take it.

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I knew Barrett Brown was a buffoon from back when he posted at LGF, but threatening an FBI agent? The only term that fits is "Terminal Stupidity".

279 Ben G. Hazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:26:44pm

re: #265 darthstar

Holy crap...he makes James O'Keefe look like a stud.

Image: barrett-300x198.jpg

That kind of gauntness tends to happen if you're a smack addict.

280 dragonfire1981  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:27:41pm

re: #276 Lidane

That douche got banned from here, right? I tend to tune the Anon morons out.

Yes he would endlessly defend Anonymous and their actions, never admitting the group had serious issues.

281 Obdicut  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:28:05pm

re: #273 goddamnedfrank

My god, that chat is tedious as fuck. Until the FBI arrives.

282 Mattand  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:28:11pm

re: #267 Killgore Trout

Yup
Anonymous member arrested during online chat after threat against FBI
I told him the feds were probably watching him, he thought it was outrageous.

You're friends with a member of Anonymous?

283 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:28:13pm

re: #277 Kragar

I think President and VP would be interesting.

Does FDR get multiple allies, or are there FDR clones?

284 Kragarghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:29:04pm

re: #283 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Does FDR get multiple allies, or are there FDR clones?

I'd say you have to pick just one.

285 Lidane  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:29:10pm

This election just got more cowbell:

286 Obdicut  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:29:14pm

re: #264 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

There is an interesting variation - which would be the best POTUS and First Lady team? You get to add some very resolute (and probably quite dangerous) women to the equation. If Mary Todd Lincoln goes berserk with Abe in support we could have a winna!

Eleanor Roosevelt would have already co-opted whatever officials were supposed to be in charge, and taken control of the entire thing.

287 Kragarghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:29:34pm

re: #281 Obdicut

My god, that chat is tedious as fuck. Until the FBI arrives.

From the Chat: BARRET JUST WON THE INTERNET!!!

288 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:29:44pm

re: #286 Obdicut

Eleanor Roosevelt would have already co-opted whatever officials were supposed to be in charge, and taken control of the entire thing.

Don't forget that she can fly too.

289 Lidane  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:29:53pm

re: #282 Mattand

You're friends with a member of Anonymous?

LOL no. Barrett Brown and KT used to clash on here, IIRC.

290 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:30:11pm

re: #282 Mattand

You're friends with a member of Anonymous?

No, but Killgore was on a chat with him and warned him, as Killgore will, that what he was doing was liable to get the law sent after him. Barrett Brown didn't listen. Oh well...

291 dragonath  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:30:23pm

re: #285 Lidane

This election just got more cowbell:

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Obligatory:

Youtube Video
292 Obdicut  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:30:24pm

re: #287 Kragar

From the Chat: BARRET JUST WON THE INTERNET!!!

They're all excited. Look at them. They don't even take their own shit seriously. How do you get through to idiots like that?

293 dragonfire1981  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:31:12pm

re: #283 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Does FDR get multiple allies, or are there FDR clones?

Youtube Video
294 Kragarghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:32:07pm

re: #292 Obdicut

They're all excited. Look at them. They don't even take their own shit seriously. How do you get through to idiots like that?

Usually by the phones they have in the prison visitors' center.

295 Mattand  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:32:33pm

re: #290 Dark_Falcon

No, but Killgore was on a chat with him and warned him, as Killgore will, that what he was doing was liable to get the law sent after him. Barrett Brown didn't listen. Oh well...

There's gotta be more backstory than that.

296 erik_t  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:32:43pm

re: #278 Dark_Falcon

I knew Barrett Brown was a buffoon from back when he posted at LGF, but threatening an FBI agent? The only term that fits is "Terminal Stupidity".

Never heard of him, but he sounds like quite a dipshit.

297 iossarian  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:32:52pm

re: #294 Kragar

Usually by the phones they have in the prison visitors' center.

KRAGAR WINS THE INTERNET!!!

*knock on door*

298 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:32:55pm

re: #273 goddamnedfrank

Supposed live chat video of the FBI raid on Barrett Brown. Shenanigans at 1min 30 seconds.

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All of those squeeks and whistles made it sound like an R2 unit and a Mouse Droid were part of the chat.

/Stay on Target!

299 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:33:04pm

re: #272 jaunte

Did he think it was outrageous/improbable, or outrageous/"how could they do this to me?"

I don;t know but I think he was just outraged that I would suggest the Feds were probably tapping his phones and monitoring his online activity. I'm actually surprised he stayed free this long, I thought for sure he's turned to an informant by now.

300 darthstar  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:33:16pm
301 Obdicut  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:33:32pm

re: #296 erik_t

Never heard of him, but he sounds like quite a dipshit.

He used to be a pretty good writer with a pretty good critique of the establishment, and then he got addicted to heroin, his own ego, and trendy anarchism.

302 ReamWorks SKG  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:33:53pm

[Link: www.nydailynews.com...]

I wish they'd arrest ROB REINER!

(Now back to Libya)

303 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:35:00pm

re: #295 Mattand

There's gotta be more backstory than that.

He also said that his legal expenses were paid for by a benefactor who he wouldn't name so I pressed him on that too.

304 Obdicut  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:35:03pm

re: #300 darthstar

Have you ever met the best twitter feed ever?

305 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:37:03pm

re: #295 Mattand

There's gotta be more backstory than that.

Not really. The folks here tried for weeks to get that goober to see reality, and Killgore went back to trying to reach him occasionally after Brown left the Stalker Blog.

Oh yes, Barrett Brown posted for a time with the Stalkers. But they soon grew tired of him and he eventually got banned for his anti-American anarchism.

306 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:37:08pm

re: #292 Obdicut

They're all excited. Look at them. They don't even take their own shit seriously. How do you get through to idiots like that?

Somebody needs to loop the six seconds of audio from 1:45 to 1:51 to a nice dance club beat. Call it "oww OWWW!"

307 Ben G. Hazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:37:31pm

re: #297 iossarian

KRAGAR WINS THE INTERNET!!!

*knock on door*

Fits well with the SNL "Land Shark" I posted upthread.

;-P

308 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:37:38pm

re: #267 Killgore Trout

Addicts just have no sense at all!

309 iossarian  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:37:56pm

re: #304 Obdicut

Have you ever met the best twitter feed ever?

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From there I get to:

[Link: buy-ebook.com...]

Why is every "indoor game" a double entendre?

Examples:

How to Light a Candle Without Touching It
French Roll
I Sell My Bat, I Sell My Ball
My Master Bids You Do as I Do
etc.

310 Lidane  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:38:04pm
311 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:38:31pm

re: #308 Dancing along the light of day

Addicts just have no sense at all!

No, they can't think of much besides getting their next fix.

312 erik_t  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:38:36pm

re: #310 Lidane

It was never intended to be a factual statement.

313 HappyBenghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:39:09pm

re: #310 Lidane

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Had a feeling it was bullshit. Too bad the wingnut bloggers have already spread it so enough people will believe it.

314 Lidane  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:39:48pm

Cue the wingnut walkback in 3...2...1...

315 Kragarghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:40:46pm

re: #310 Lidane

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Pff, like we're supposed to trust a Major in the USMC over an anonymous blog post.

316 erik_t  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:40:47pm

re: #314 Lidane

Cue the wingnut walkback in 3...2...1...

I thought Cantor was one of the wingnuts.

Wingnuttia cannot fail, it can only be failed. Who will be the last nut standing?

317 iossarian  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:41:16pm

More sniggers from "the book of indoor games":

Stool of Repentance
Obstinate Cork
Cock Fighting
Buff Says Buff
All Fours

318 b_snark  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:41:26pm

re: #311 Dark_Falcon

No, they can't think of much besides getting their next fix.

Not true.

Don't take their depiction on TV as fact.

319 erik_t  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:41:46pm

re: #315 Kragar

Pff, like we're supposed to trust a Major in the USMC over an anonymous blog post.

Paul Ryan thinks the Marine is probably just lying to cover for the administration.

320 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:42:19pm

re: #318 b_sharp

Not true.

Don't take their depiction on TV as fact.

Interesting. Might I ask for an elaboration?

321 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:42:32pm

Watching the Barrett Brown videos, he's pissed about people outing his personal information. Ironic.

322 Lidane  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:42:54pm

Speaking of addicts without any sense:

323 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:43:30pm

re: #319 erik_t

Paul Ryan thinks the Marine is probably just lying to cover for the administration.

No, he probably accept the Marine at his word. The Romney campaign hasn't said anything in support of that rumor, so most likely they'll just ignore it entirely.

324 HappyBenghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:44:49pm

re: #323 Dark_Falcon

No, he probably accept the Marine at his word. The Romney campaign hasn't said anything in support of that rumor, so most likely they'll just ignore it entirely.

He didn't take the Pentagon generals at their word.

325 Lidane  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:44:59pm

re: #320 Dark_Falcon

Interesting. Might I ask for an elaboration?

Not all addicts are completely strung out and only focused on the next hit. Quite a few of them are highly functional and can work and do any number of things. Shows like Intervention show the addicts that are in a real bad way.

326 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:45:02pm

re: #322 Lidane

Speaking of addicts without any sense:

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So he he traded cooking up one form of destructive shit to cooking up another.

327 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:46:15pm

re: #325 Lidane

Not all addicts are completely strung out and only focused on the next hit. Quite a few of them are highly functional and can work and do any number of things. Shows like Intervention show the addicts that are in a real bad way.

Yes, I can see how that would be true. It does, I'm sure, depend on which drug they are addicted to and their character in general.

328 iossarian  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:46:33pm

re: #325 Lidane

Not all addicts are completely strung out and only focused on the next hit. Quite a few of them are highly functional and can work and do any number of things. Shows like Intervention show the addicts that are in a real bad way.

People who are staying sober in groups like AA are addicts (some might use scare quotes but I think the term is accurate).

And there is quite a range of behavior from there down to the completely desperate cases, as you say.

329 darthstar  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:46:43pm

re: #318 b_sharp

Not true.

Don't take their depiction on TV as fact.

People who've never done drugs are usually the experts on what happens to people who do them...don't you know anything?
/

330 Mattand  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:46:43pm

re: #305 Dark_Falcon

Not really. The folks here tried for weeks to get that goober to see reality, and Killgore went back to trying to reach him occasionally after Brown left the Stalker Blog.

Oh yes, Barrett Brown posted for a time with the Stalkers. But they soon grew tired of him and he eventually got banned for his anti-American anarchism.

Stalker blog?

331 Ben G. Hazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:46:49pm

re: #322 Lidane

Speaking of addicts without any sense:

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Why would this not surprise me?

Walter White, this guy ain't.

332 Decatur Deb  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:47:12pm

re: #321 Killgore Trout

Watching the Barrett Brown videos, he's pissed about people outing his personal information. Ironic.

If he's in custody and still addicted, a bunch of anonymoi won't be anonymous very long.

333 Ben G. Hazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:48:28pm

re: #332 Decatur Deb

If he's in custody and still addicted, a bunch of anonymoi won't be anonymous very long.

The taste of schadenfreude is deep, rich, and complex.

334 b_snark  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:48:45pm

re: #320 Dark_Falcon

Interesting. Might I ask for an elaboration?

I knew two heroin addicts when I was younger. When they were on the drug you could not tell them from anybody else unless you knew what to look for. They both functioned well at university. Unfortunately the one friend I knew from grade 2 overdosed during my second year. The other was a martial artist and professional student.

The pictures of drooling, shaky incompetents isn't accurate, although that may be the case during withdrawal.

335 Decatur Deb  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:49:31pm

re: #333 Gert Fröbe

The taste of schadenfreude is deep, rich, and complex.

Almost sorry for him, but he was a dumbfuck.

336 Kragarghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:49:38pm

Tony Perkins Tells Parents 'Don't Condone' Homosexuality: VIDEO

After speaking at the National Press Club yesterday, Family Research Council president Tony Perkins was asked whether or not he would disown one of his children if they came out. Calling the question a "gotcha question," Perkins claimed he would still love a gay child, but would tell them that their "lifestyle choice" damages them and society as a whole.

"If we [parents] really love them, we’ll be willing to tell them the truth that the choices that they have made, continuing what they’re doing, are both destructive to them personally and society as a whole,” Perkins said. "And so while I would disagree with my child getting involved in that lifestyle, I would not in any way — nor would I ever encourage a parent — to disown a child because of something like that that occurs. Love them compassionately, pray for them, but don’t condone and enable that behavior, whatever it might be."

He went on, as conservatives do, to compare being gay to being a drug addict, and threw in a little condescension in there, as well: "That’s not to say that those whose children may have ended up in homosexuality were not good parents. We can’t guarantee that. We can do our very best job as a parent and still something may happen, whether they end up in drugs or whether they end up in some other lifestyle that they end up."

337 darthstar  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:49:55pm

re: #331 Gert Fröbe

Why would this not surprise me?

Walter White, this guy ain't.

I know a guy from New Jersey (just passed the bar recently) who is a Breaking Bad fan - painfully obsessive about the show--always posting Breaking Bad pics and jokes on fb. I got stoned with him once at Bonnaroo (in 2004). Guy was paranoid the police would come any second and keep him from completing law school. There were 80,000 people there in different states of intoxication...it was a total buzz kill getting high with him.

338 freetoken  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:49:59pm

If you tire of all atavistic thinkers who are fighting over their religious fantasies, here's a break (brought to us by the Templeton Foundation, ironically itself set up to modernize religion) - a look at why we H. sapiens succeeded in dominating the planet:


Why We Prevailed: Evolution and the Battle for Dominance

We once shared the planet with Neanderthals and other human species. Some of our relatives may have had tools, language and culture. Why did we thrive while they perished? Join evolutionary biologists, geneticists and anthropologists as they share profound insights about the origin of man and retrace our singular journey from fledgling prototype to the most dominant species on Earth.

Hour and a half long discussion at link. With some interesting music as a bonus in an intro video. (Some things in the intro video I disagree with.)

339 Obdicut  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:50:22pm

re: #334 b_sharp

Yeah, I know a functioning addict with a 20 year habit, but he only does maintenance doses now. If you continue to use for pleasure, you're going down a bad path, just because of the physics of tolerance.

340 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:50:44pm

re: #334 b_sharp

I knew two heroin addicts when I was younger. When they were on the drug you could not tell them from anybody else unless you knew what to look for. They both functioned well at university. Unfortunately the one friend I knew from grade 2 overdosed during my second year. The other was a martial artist and professional student.

The pictures of drooling, shaky incompetents isn't accurate, although that may be the case during withdrawal.

Binge alcoholics can go a long time between drinking, but when they do will generally drink everything in the house.

341 HappyBenghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:51:46pm

re: #336 Kragar

Tony Perkins Tells Parents 'Don't Condone' Homosexuality: VIDEO

I don't condone Tony Perkins.

342 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:52:12pm

re: #330 Mattand

Stalker blog?

The sites called "TheBlogmocracy" and "Diary of Daedalus". Mostly populated by people banned from LGF. Lots of hateful commentary there, and "Diary of Daedalus Dorkus" is devoted entirely to attacking Charles and LGF.

343 Kragarghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:52:35pm

Choosing Tony Perkins damages them and society as a whole.

344 Kragarghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:53:10pm

re: #342 Dark_Falcon

I prefer Diary of Dumbasses.

345 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:53:21pm

re: #340 goddamnedfrank

Binge alcoholics can go a long time between drinking, but when they do will generally drink everything in the house.

To bring matters back to presidents, Ulysses S. Grant was such a binge drinker.

346 darthstar  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:53:21pm

For the ladies in the room...

Image: 540092_346031748824078_352281951_n.jpg

347 b_snark  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:53:47pm

re: #339 Obdicut

Yeah, I know a functioning addict with a 20 year habit, but he only does maintenance doses now. If you continue to use for pleasure, you're going down a bad path, just because of the physics of tolerance.

I agree. I would certainly not defend the use of addictive drugs like heroin, especially since it took the life of a guy I knew for almost 20 years. I was just telling D_F the image he has is wrong.

348 wrenchwench  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:53:48pm

re: #344 Kragar

I prefer Diary of Dumbasses.

And "Blogmockery"

349 Lidane  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:54:28pm
350 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:54:30pm

re: #344 Kragar

I prefer Diary of Dumbasses.

I call it the Dead Louse blog.

351 blueraven  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:55:29pm

OT...but it is raining proverbial cats and dogs at my home just outside Austin and has been raining off and on since noon. Wheee...we really need it!

Hope my near neighbors, Austin Blue and Lidane are getting same.

352 Mattand  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:55:40pm

re: #342 Dark_Falcon

The sites called "TheBlogmocracy" and "Diary of Daedalus". Mostly populated by people banned from LGF. Lots of hateful commentary there, and "Diary of Daedalus Dorkus" is devoted entirely to attacking Charles and LGF.

Oy.

Thanks for the heads up. I had no idea that even existed.

353 b_snark  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:55:47pm

Time for the 2 hour drive hour.

Later.

354 celticdragon  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:55:59pm

re: #62 Kragar

The voters forgot one important thing.

Mitt can't be bargained with. Mitt can't be reasoned with. Mitt doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And Mitt absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.

There is no Dana Mitt...there is only Zhuul!

355 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:56:00pm

re: #345 Dark_Falcon

To bring matters back to presidents, Ulysses S. Grant was such a binge drinker.

Lincoln said, "Find out his favorite brand of whiskey, and send a case of it to all my other generals."

356 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:56:22pm

re: #344 Kragar

I prefer Diary of Dumbasses.

"Dorkus" is my riff of the real DoD (Dungeons & Dragons) and its character Orcus, the Demon Prince of Undeath. So took that name and came up with Dorkus, Prince of Blogstalking.

357 celticdragon  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:57:48pm

re: #342 Dark_Falcon

The sites called "TheBlogmocracy" and "Diary of Daedalus". Mostly populated by people banned from LGF. Lots of hateful commentary there, and "Diary of Daedalus Dorkus" is devoted entirely to attacking Charles and LGF.

I found they even devoted an entire thread to attacking me for something I said about not speaking much to one of the former members here. Major obsession problems over there.

358 Ben G. Hazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:58:22pm

re: #352 Mattand

Oy.

Thanks for the heads up. I had no idea that even existed.

If one could call that sort of pitiful hatred "existence".

359 jaunte  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:58:53pm

Is it the burning strawmen giving off that smell?

360 darthstar  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:59:38pm
361 RadicalModerate  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 2:59:48pm

As bad as Romney stuck his foot in it regarding the death of Ambassador Stevens, leave it to "dim" Jim Hoft to go all-in with raving lunatic derpitude:
(apologies for the live link - no cache available yet for page)

Horror!… Lebanese Reports: US Ambassador Raped Before His Murder
Posted by Jim Hoft on Thursday, September 13, 2012, 7:00 AM

WARNING: GRAPHIC IMAGES PRESENT ON PAGE.

362 celticdragon  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 3:00:17pm

re: #359 jaunte

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Is it the burning strawmen giving off that smell?

No. It's the smell of her "dropping trou" and urinating on her credibility.

363 Kragarghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 3:00:51pm

re: #345 Dark_Falcon

To bring matters back to presidents, Ulysses S. Grant was such a binge drinker.

One did not fuck with Grant.

After the first day at the Battle of Shiloh, Sherman approached Grant on behalf of the officers to see if they should prepare to withdraw:

Sherman: "Well, Grant, we've had the devil's own day, haven't we?"
Grant: "Yes, lick 'em tomorrow, though."

364 erik_t  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 3:01:56pm

re: #360 darthstar

Romneybot wants to know how that sports sphere became so egg-shaped. Is it sickly? Is it costing the company extra in health insurance? He has seen some somewhat egg-shaped sports spheroids overseas. Might it be outsourced to save the trouble?

365 darthstar  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 3:02:04pm

Romney Girl getting pulled off the internet...see it while you can.

Youtube Video

[Link: gregmitchellwriter.blogspot.com...]

366 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 3:02:38pm

re: #315 Kragar

Pff, like we're supposed to trust a Major in the USMC over an anonymous blog post.

Not relevant to the particular thing you're talking about, but do keep in mind that it's possible to be both a high-ranking military officer and bat-shit crazy:

Albert Stubblebine

Albert "Bert" N. Stubblebine III is a retired Major General in the United States Army. He was the commanding general of the United States Army Intelligence and Security Command from 1981 to 1984, when he retired from the Army. He is also known for his interest in parapsychology.

Stubblebine appeared in the 2006 documentary "One Nation Under Siege"[2] in which he states, in relation to the attack on The Pentagon which took place on September 11, 2001: I look at the hole in The Pentagon, and I look at the size of an airplane that was supposed to have hit the Pentagon, and I said "The plane does not fit in that hole. So what did hit the Pentagon?"

A proponent of psychic warfare, Stubblebine was involved in a U.S. Military project to create "a breed of 'super soldier'" who would "have the ability to become invisible at will and to walk through walls". Stubblebine reportedly attempted to walk through walls himself, without success.[3] He features prominently in Jon Ronson's book The Men Who Stare at Goats.[6][7]

367 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 3:03:03pm

re: #362 celticdragon

No. It's the smell of her "dropping trou" and urinating on her credibility.

How is that possible? She burned all of her credibility on a pyre of Burning Stupid will her "Twitter Gulag" DERPfest.

368 Kragarghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 3:03:37pm

re: #361 RadicalModerate

As bad as Romney stuck his foot in it regarding the death of Ambassador Stevens, leave it to "dim" Jim Hoft to go all-in with raving lunatic derpitude:
(apologies for the live link - no cache available yet for page)

Horror!… Lebanese Reports: US Ambassador Raped Before His Murder
Posted by Jim Hoft on Thursday, September 13, 2012, 7:00 AM

WARNING: GRAPHIC IMAGES PRESENT ON PAGE.

Oh for fucks sake.

369 BongGhazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 3:03:44pm

re: #342 Dark_Falcon

The sites called "TheBlogmocracy" and "Diary of Daedalus". Mostly populated by people banned from LGF. Lots of hateful commentary there, and "Diary of Daedalus Dorkus" is devoted entirely to attacking Charles and LGF.

I've only heard of DoD through LGF and have seen a few Googled results, but that is just fucking pathetic.

370 Obdicut  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 3:05:48pm

re: #365 darthstar

Romney Girl getting pulled off the internet...see it while you can.

[Embedded content]

[Link: gregmitchellwriter.blogspot.com...]

Nothing can be pulled off the internet.

371 Lidane  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 3:06:21pm

Guys, if you ever decide you want some "male enhancement", don't do this:

Woman Injects Man’s Penis with Silicone, Man Immediately Dies

o_O

372 Decatur Deb  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 3:06:28pm

re: #369 BongCrodny

I've only heard of DoD through LGF and have seen a few Googled results, but that is just fucking pathetic.

If we stop believing in them, they will die and fade into their barrows forevermore.

373 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 3:06:40pm

re: #366 Our Precious Bodily Fluids

Not relevant to the particular thing you're talking about, but do keep in mind that it's possible to be both a high-ranking military officer and bat-shit crazy:

Albert Stubblebine

"Why in the Hell would you hire a goddamn manic like that?!"

"Because Admiral, sane people do not build weapons like this."

"You know, Mr. Breaker, you'd think we'd all learn something from that."

/Under Siege 2 (Don't be too harsh, I avoided quoting Segal)

374 Digital Display  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 3:06:44pm

re: #351 blueraven

OT...but it is raining proverbial cats and dogs at my home just outside Austin and has been raining off and on since noon. Wheee...we really need it!

Hope my near neighbors, Austin Blue and Lidane are getting same.

It's raining here in Oklahoma.. I forgot what rain looks like...

375 wrenchwench  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 3:06:49pm

re: #369 BongCrodny

I've only heard of DoD through LGF and have seen a few Googled results, but that is just fucking pathetic.

At one point they had a blog called "LittlegreenfootballsII".

As bad as you think it might be, it's actually worse.

376 blueraven  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 3:06:53pm

Pentagon denies "embassy Marines are not armed" BS

377 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 3:07:25pm

re: #370 Obdicut

Nothing can be pulled off the internet.

No, but lawyers can run it off of YouTube.

378 Obdicut  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 3:07:29pm

re: #369 BongCrodny

I've only heard of DoD through LGF and have seen a few Googled results, but that is just fucking pathetic.

THey also love Putin, Pinochet, and the massacre of Jews and Muslims during the Reconquista and the Crusades. Not worth any more thought than that.

379 celticdragon  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 3:07:31pm

re: #368 Kragar

Oh for fucks sake.

WTF??!

Screw it. I say we feed "Dim" Jim to a pack of wild squigs so some Speed Freak orks can use him for fuel. At least he would have some sort of use that way.

380 BongGhazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 3:08:06pm

re: #359 jaunte

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So what is the appropriate amount of time, media, to wait before condemning mobs setting our consulate on fire and storming embassy walls?

Gee, Dana, how about one second? Because that's about how long it took you guys before you started howling.

381 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 3:08:08pm

BTW, I have no idea if Barrett Brown's arrest is real. None of the articles mention police statements about the arrest, No cops actually seen on the video. He might just be making the whole thing up. The only thing I feel he's probably being honest about is his struggle with heroin and opiates.

382 Varek Raith  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 3:08:42pm

re: #266 Kragar

Barret Browns arrest occurred while he was on a video chat with Anon, its on youtube.

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Nice friends he has there.
Lol.

383 Mattand  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 3:09:09pm

re: #358 Gert Fröbe

If one could call that sort of pitiful hatred "existence".

Just got back from Diary of Daedalus. That was...interesting.

I can see why it's called the stalker blog. That's some grade A unhealthy obsession cookin' over there.

If that's how that guy reacts from getting kicked off of a blog, I'd hate to see his reaction if someone cuts him off in traffic.

384 RadicalModerate  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 3:09:48pm

re: #381 Killgore Trout

BTW, I have no idea if Barrett Brown's arrest is real. None of the articles mention police statements about the arrest, No cops actually seen on the video. He might just be making the whole thing up. The only thing I feel he's probably being honest about is his struggle with heroin and opiates.

The arrest is quite real. Here's the writeup from the Dallas Morning News.

[Link: thescoopblog.dallasnews.com...]

385 Obdicut  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 3:09:49pm

re: #381 Killgore Trout

What? From the first article in the thread:

Barrett Brown, the self-proclaimed spokesman for the hacker group Anonymous, was arrested in Dallas last night, Dallas Sheriff’s Department spokeswoman Carmen Castro tells The News this evening. She says he was booked in shortly before 11 p.m., then “released over to the FBI” this morning.

386 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 3:10:21pm

re: #376 blueraven

Pentagon denies "embassy Marines are not armed" BS

Yeah, no surprise there.

387 iossarian  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 3:10:45pm

re: #385 Obdicut

What? From the first article in the thread:

Well strike me down with a fact-checker!

388 BongGhazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 3:10:50pm

re: #371 Lidane

Guys, if you ever decide you want some "male enhancement", don't do this:

Woman Injects Man’s Penis with Silicone, Man Immediately Dies

o_O

I got ten bucks that says this guy is one of next year's Darwin Awards winners.

389 celticdragon  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 3:11:09pm

re: #371 Lidane

Guys, if you ever decide you want some "male enhancement", don't do this:

Woman Injects Man’s Penis with Silicone, Man Immediately Dies

o_O

This sort of horribly dangerous silicone enhancement has been a big deal in the transgendered community for some time, and I have seen warnings about how these back shop operations (often in literally in the back rooms of nail stylist shops) use industrial silicone right out of a bucket and shoot it into your hips or breasts. People actually die on the spot sometimes like this story here. Sometimes they end up with nasty, permanent disfiguration.

390 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 3:11:10pm

re: #384 RadicalModerate

The arrest is quite real. Here's the writeup from the Dallas Morning News.

[Link: thescoopblog.dallasnews.com...]

Ah, ok. That one has a police statement. Thanks.

391 Decatur Deb  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 3:12:43pm

re: #376 blueraven

Pentagon denies "Marines are not armed" BS

The Pentagon is in the tank for Obama!!1!

Image: M1A1_abrams_front.jpg

392 celticdragon  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 3:13:17pm

re: #388 BongCrodny

I got ten bucks that says this guy is one of next year's Darwin Awards winners.

People have been dieing from this stuff for awhile. It's bad news.

393 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 3:13:22pm

re: #378 Obdicut

THey also love Putin, Pinochet, and the massacre of Jews and Muslims during the Reconquista and the Crusades. Not worth any more thought than that.

They also post to justify the Srebrenica Massacre. And lead Stalker "Rodan" (AKA Trajan, Twajie, Daedalus, and Dorkus) has posted threads that were love letters to Serbian war criminal 'Arkan' and his murderous band 'Arkan's Tigers'. ONe such peice on the Balkan Wars is less than a week old. As always, Islam is blamed as the cause of all problems.

394 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 3:14:45pm

re: #377 Dark_Falcon

No, but lawyers can run it off of YouTube.

Parody is protected use. The reason nobody's shot down Weird Al Yankovic. Anti-SLAPP laws will dismiss Universal's suit immediately, especially since Romney's stance against net neutrality means they have a political motive to kill this bit of public participation.

395 wrenchwench  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 3:15:06pm

re: #393 Dark_Falcon

Like Geller with a spellchecker.

396 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 3:15:19pm

re: #379 celticdragon

WTF??!

Screw it. I say we feed "Dim" Jim to a pack of wild squigs so some Speed Freak orks can use him for fuel. At least he would have sort of use that way.

Why do you hate Orcs so much? Yes, they were created by Morgoth, but even creatures designed by the Dark Enemy don't deserve such a foul fate as to be forced to consume Jim Hoft.

397 Lidane  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 3:16:28pm

Christiane Amanpour just tweeted & posted this on FB:

[Link: www.facebook.com...]

AP now says the U.S. identifies anti-Muslim filmmaker as Coptic Christian, but let me say I am outraged at the punk's cynical earlier attempt to portray himself to AP and other media as Israeli, Jewish to deflect blame

398 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 3:16:45pm

re: #394 goddamnedfrank

Parody is protected use. The reason nobody's shot down Weird Al Yankovic. Anti-SLAPP laws will dismiss Universal's suit immediately, especially since Romney's stance against net neutrality means they have a political motive to kill this bit of public participation.

If they want to fight. It costs money and time to bring such a case to an Anti-SLAPP hearing and quite often people decide to just comply with the presented demand and avoid the hassle.

399 Decatur Deb  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 3:17:41pm

re: #398 Dark_Falcon

If they want to fight. It costs money and time to bring such a case to an Anti-SLAPP hearing and quite often people decide to just comply with the presented demand and avoid the hassle.

It wasn't destined to be a Golden Oldie anyway.

400 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 3:18:34pm

re: #398 Dark_Falcon

If they want to fight. It costs money and time to bring such a case to an Anti-SLAPP hearing and quite often people decide to just comply with the presented demand and avoid the hassle.

The anti-SLAPP hearing takes place within a week and if Universal loses they pay all court and attorney fees. This is the clearest of clear cut cases, Universal is bluffing.

401 wrenchwench  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 3:18:38pm

And now I must make the difficult adjustment from putting all new parts on a freshly painted Ritchey frame to putting some brake pads and a lot of oil on a 40 lb. heap from WalMart.

*sigh*

402 BongGhazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 3:18:41pm

re: #392 celticdragon

People have been dieing from this stuff for awhile. It's bad news.

To be honest, I wouldn't mind having a bigger "David Gregory's tie," but I sure as heck know enough to not let a freaking stranger with no medical training put a needle in it.

403 Lidane  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 3:21:20pm
404 RadicalModerate  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 3:24:20pm

re: #378 Obdicut

THey also love Putin, Pinochet, and the massacre of Jews and Muslims during the Reconquista and the Crusades. Not worth any more thought than that.

Weren't there more than a few folks over there who also supported Anders Breivik's murder-spree as well?

405 SpaceJesus  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 3:24:23pm

Why did you guys run Barret off? We could have kept him as a pet.

406 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 3:25:22pm

re: #403 Lidane

[Embedded content]

I wonder how long Politifact can go without giving the story a rating. So far they've done everything but call Romney a pants-on-fire liar ... so by the end of the week they'll probably rate his bullshit as half-true.

407 RadicalModerate  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 3:26:01pm

re: #405 SpaceJesus

Why did you guys run Barret off? We could have kept him as a pet.

He was INCREDIBLY thin-skinned over any challenge to his stories, and he pretty much ran off on his own.

408 RadicalModerate  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 3:28:17pm

re: #406 goddamnedfrank

I wonder how long Politifact can go without giving the story a rating. So far they've done everything but call Romney a pants-on-fire liar ... so by the end of the week they'll probably rate his bullshit as half-true.

From the article you linked, they did indeed give it a "Pants-on-Fire" rating.

This is a theme for Romney: He has long accused Obama of apologizing for America, starting in 2010, when Romney published No Apology: The Case for American Greatness. Since then, he has repeatedly criticized what he has called an "apology tour" by Obama shortly after he took office. PolitiFact has examined those speeches, consulted experts on speechmaking and apologies, and rated Romney's claim Pants on Fire.

409 Dante41  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 3:28:38pm

A repost for those who haven't seen it yet: The Libyan reaction protest to the Consulate attack.

410 Kid Aghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 3:28:54pm

Overheard commercial on Fog News just now: "Come join like-minded conservatives, on The Weekly Standard's Caribbean Cruise for a week..."

The level of derp on that ship would be so heavy, it would sink it before it left the harbor.

411 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 3:30:05pm

re: #371 Lidane

Guys, if you ever decide you want some "male enhancement", don't do this:

Woman Injects Man’s Penis with Silicone, Man Immediately Dies

o_O

"Fix-A-Flat" Buttocks enlarger returns with a new scam!

I think it's the same person.

412 Decatur Deb  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 3:30:27pm

re: #409 Dante41

A repost for those who haven't seen it yet: The Libyan reaction protest to the Consulate attack.

People who have more to fear than Officer Pepperspray.

413 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 3:31:16pm

re: #405 SpaceJesus

Why did you guys run Barret off? We could have kept him as a pet.

SJ, you know we can't keep trolls as pets. when we cage they start flinging troll guano all over the place.

414 Ben G. Hazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 3:32:22pm

re: #407 RadicalModerate

He was INCREDIBLY thin-skinned over any challenge to his stories, and he pretty much ran off on his own.

IIRC, BB's "exit strategy" was a bit, er, unique.

415 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 3:33:22pm

re: #408 RadicalModerate

From the article you linked, they did indeed give it a "Pants-on-Fire" rating.

That was referencing the "apology tour" specifically. They haven't given an independent rating to the Libya claim yet.

416 Archangelus  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 3:47:08pm

Just saw this and had to share, can't believe I hadn't seen it before... whoever made this is a genius:

"Will The Real Mitt Romney Please Stand Up (feat. Eminem) "

Youtube Video
417 Robert O.  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 3:48:08pm

Romney can always retroactively unspeak the words that came out of his mouth, while etching a completely new sketch.

418 funky chicken  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 3:51:08pm

re: #6 NJDhockeyfan

loose lips sink ships, and the itinerary of the head of the cia doesn't need broadcasting

419 MPH  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 8:21:05pm

I guarantee those who claim Mitt is "politicizing Libya" were almost certainly "politicizing Iraq" four short years ago.

420 wheat-dogghazi  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 10:27:48pm

re: #49 darthstar

The photo is flipped horizontally -- at least the Chinese is.
司机注请不要扔窗外危险物品. 谢谢! "Drivers please pay attention: don't throw dangerous articles out the windows. Thank you."

No anus on that sign.

421 KettleKat  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 11:42:32pm
“I would offer a moment of silence, but one gentleman doesn’t want to be silent — so we’re going to keep on going,” Romney said.

Most imperceptive and ironic statement ever?


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