Kansas GOP Birthers Want to Remove Obama from the Ballot

What’s the matter with Kansas?

Wingnuts • 9/14/12 12:50:09 pm • Views: 33,377

Far right anti-immigrant Mitt Romney campaign adviser Kris Kobach is trying to have President Obama removed from the ballot in Kansas. And the reason for this extreme move is … Birtherism.

A GOP-controlled board in Kansas is trying to decide whether to remove President Obama from the state ballot over objections about his birth certificate.

The State Objections Board — consisting of three of the state’s top Republican elected officials — ruled Thursday it did not yet have enough information and postponed a decision until Monday.

“I don’t think it’s a frivolous objection,” Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach told the Topeka Capital-Journal. “I do think the factual record could be supplemented.”

Obama has long battled questions about the authenticity of his birth certificate and the legitimacy of his presidency. He released his long-form birth certificate, showing that he was born in Hawaii, in August 2011. At the time, Obama said he was trying to end the “silliness” that has been sparked by people known as “birthers” who doubt he was born in the United States.

Kobach is an informal adviser to GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney, who has said repeatedly that he believes Obama was born in the United States. The state attorney general and lieutenant governor are also on the Kansas Objections Board.

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Kragar Fri, Sep 14, 2012 12:55:20pm

Conservative Kansas Congressman: Obama ‘Will Be On The Ballot’

One of Kansas’s most conservative members of Congress told TPM Friday that the talk about barring President Obama from Kansas ballots will end up being just that.

“He’ll be on the ballot in Kansas,” Rep. Tim Huelskamp (R) told TPM in the halls of the Values Voter Summit in Washington.

Three top Republican elected officials in Kansas, including “informal” Mitt Romney adviser Kris Kobach, the Kansas secretary of state, are considering challenging Obama’s eligibility to appear on Kansas ballots this fall based on concerns over his citizenship. Kobach would not directly say whether he believes Obama’s birth certificate is real in an email to TPM Thursday night.

lawhawk Fri, Sep 14, 2012 12:55:34pm

Kobach is the guy behind the AZ SB1070 anti-immigrant legislation. He's as extreme as they come.

engineer cat Fri, Sep 14, 2012 12:55:38pm

Romney Campaign Calls For Removing Ohio From Ballot

Tigger2 Fri, Sep 14, 2012 12:55:39pm

John Brown wouldn't be happy about that. Kansas study your past.

Mattand Fri, Sep 14, 2012 12:56:10pm

So any reasonable candidate would repudiate Kobach and cease to have his campaign associate with this lunatic.

Right, Mitt?

Mitt?

wrenchwench Fri, Sep 14, 2012 12:57:45pm

Well-documented racist aligns with racist cause.

“I do think the factual record could be supplemented.” With what? Non-facts?

AK-47% Fri, Sep 14, 2012 12:58:13pm

Karl Rove tried to warn conservatives that Obama was trying to "trap" them. And he did just that: he could have responded immediately to their ridiculous claims, but he let things run their course.

By the time he did release his birth certificate, so many wingnuts were so invested in birtherism that they could not bring themselves to back down from it, and it is still alive and still embarrassing anyone who is not completely stupid.

leftynyc Fri, Sep 14, 2012 12:59:55pm

Go ahead - make the President's day.

wrenchwench Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:00:00pm

I've nothing against Kansas. If it provides original statehood documents and 100% proof that it's not Kenyan, let it vote.
— Nicholas Kristof (@NickKristof) September 14, 2012

Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:01:10pm

seeing a lot over twitter about Romney claiming today's ceremony was like when he welcomed home fallen soldiers at logan airport. ~~Still can't find evidence he did so...~~

ok found old articles about it.

Petero1818 Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:02:58pm

re: #6 wrenchwench

Well-documented racist aligns with racist cause.

“I do think the factual record could be supplemented.” With what? Non-facts?

Scripture.

Dr Lizardo Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:03:53pm

re: #7 Expand Your Ground

I'm not a big fan of "turdblossom", but I give him credit where credit is due. He did try to warn the wingnuts they were falling into a trap that would make them look like a bunch of loonies, and they told Karl to shut his piehole.

And then the trap was sprung. As you pointed out, they're so emotionally invested in this notion, they can't back down. It's become nothing less than an article of faith. Hell, they probably think it's in the Bible somewhere.

Kragar Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:04:00pm

re: #10 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

seeing a lot over twitter about Romney claiming today's ceremony was like when he welcomed home fallen soldiers at logan airport. Still can't find evidence he did so...

How many service men did he welcome home during Vietnam?

Oh, thats right. Never mind.

jaunte Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:05:26pm

Kris Kobach's Kansas.

Initially suggestive.

Kragar Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:05:31pm

McCain to Hannity: Fox 'wrong about Libya'

McCain's remarks came after Hannity claimed he had accurately predicted that the Muslim Brotherhood would take control of Egypt, and pressed the Arizona Republican on why the Obama administration was not able to foresee this week's attacks on U.S. diplomats in North Africa.

“How is it that Sean Hannity and a few others of us out here predicted with pinpoint accuracy that the Muslim Brotherhood would be in charge in Egypt? Their first task when they took over the Parliament was to declare Israel, our closest ally, an enemy. First, their number one enemy,” Hannity said. “How is it that the administration with all their intelligence and all the money we spend to help them and the CIA — how is it that they didn’t see this coming? And they kept telling the American people, this is democracy. Democracy. I don’t view the Muslim Brotherhood as democracy. They want Sharia law implemented now in Egypt.”

McCain pushed back, telling Hannity that “that’s not clear that that’s true” and that he and Fox News were wrong with their take on the elections in Libya.

“But also it was you and people on Fox that said in Libya, ‘we didn’t know who they were and let’s not help these people.’ They had an election and they elected moderates. They rejected Islamists,” McCain said. “And yes, there are Al Qaeda factors and there are extremists in Libya today, but the Libyan people are friends of ours, and they support us, and they support democracy. So you were wrong about Libya.”

“I don’t think I was wrong about Libya at all,” Hannity replied.

McCain jumped in, telling Hannity, “Yes I do, I know you were.”

“No, I was not,” the Fox News host said.

“I know you were. They had a free and fair election, and a democratic non-Islamic government was elected. So you were wrong,” McCain said.

Hannity then said he was surprised McCain wasn’t siding with him.

AK-47% Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:05:40pm

re: #12 Dr Lizardo

I'm not a big fan of "turdblossom", but I give him credit where credit is due. He did try to warn the wingnuts they were falling into a trap that would make them look like a bunch of loonies, and they told Karl to shut his piehole.

And then the trap was sprung. As you pointed out, they're so emotionally invested in this notion, they can't back down. It's become nothing less than an article of faith. Hell, they probably think it's in the Bible somewhere.

Turdblossom also tried to warn them against nominating incompetent, unelectable loonies like Christine O'Donnell and Sharron Angle, and got slapped down massively for it.

Kragar Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:06:19pm

re: #14 jaunte

Kris Kobach's Kansas.

Initially suggestive.

But what was your intention?

erik_t Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:08:28pm

re: #12 Dr Lizardo

I'm not a big fan of "turdblossom", but I give him credit where credit is due. He did try to warn the wingnuts they were falling into a trap that would make them look like a bunch of loonies, and they told Karl to shut his piehole.

For all his faults, Rove is generally a thinking person who makes rational decisions based on the information he gathers about the world around him.

They're:
- self-serving thoughts
- bad decisions
- faulty information
and
- a sheltered world
but this still puts him miles ahead of many GOP politicians.

Dr Lizardo Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:09:29pm

re: #16 Expand Your Ground

Turdblossom also tried to warn them against nominating incompetent, unelectable loonies like Christine O'Donnell and Sharron Angle, and got slapped down massively for it.

Indeed he did. I wonder what ole Karl thinks of this new brand of crazy that's come to the fore? Seriously, it's like the John Birch Society and every other fringe wacko has overrun the GOP ramparts. My late father was a Republican, in the mold of men like Thomas Dewey and Dwight Eisenhower. I think if he were alive today, he'd probably vote for President Obama, not because he'd be his biggest fan, but because the opposition is so utterly insane.

jaunte Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:09:36pm

Earlier this year, Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett also considered removing Obama from his state ballot but backed down after receiving information from Hawaii "that proves Obama's American birth."

"Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State."

Someone Please Beam Me Up! Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:11:45pm

Dorothy and Toto, you left just in time.

Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:12:57pm

Awesome

Samuel L. Jackson will film a provocative spot supporting President Obama’s re-election bid as early as tomorrow — telling voters to “Wake the f--k up, Vote for Obama.”

The ad is a riff on Jackson’s viral video “Go the F--k to Sleep,” where he narrates a children’s book written by Adam Mansbach.

Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:14:35pm

This is absolutely disgusting

Dr Lizardo Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:15:38pm

re: #18 erik_t

Good points about Rove's worldview, and even with those considerable drawbacks, yes, he's way ahead of the wingnuts.

The wingnuts remind me in some way of the Bolsheviks; dedicated revolutionaries who ate, drank, talked, and lived revolution every moment of their waking lives, and when they were asleep, they no doubt dreamed of it. Of course, when their moment came, they relied not on practical politics, but on the politics of prophecy. Vanguardism; they represented the Russian workers/peasants not as they were, but as they would become.

The wingnuts seem to regard themselves as a similar kind of "revolutionary vanguard", though in their case, replace "revolutionary" with "reactionary". That's just my personal observation.

aagcobb Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:15:42pm

Here is a report on the Kansas birther hearing:

[Link: nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com...]

AK-47% Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:18:42pm

re: #23 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

This is absolutely disgusting

If you want law and order and low taxes, this is what you get. In the end, it is the voters themselves who have to pay for this in the form of damage lawsuits.

Dr Lizardo Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:18:52pm

re: #23 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

W
T
F?

Disgusting is too mild a word. Barbarous or Obscene might be better choices.

Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:21:52pm

Scott Brown decides to copy Romney playbook: Lie and Lie some more

Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:22:47pm

Gary Bauer calls Obama the most "anti-Israel president in American history." #VVS12
— Michelle Goldberg (@michelleinbklyn) September 14, 2012

Randall Gross Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:24:36pm

This was on the news last night - it got me cursing at the tv, something I rarely do, and all of the other cases have been football calls.

Tigger2 Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:27:05pm

re: #23 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

This is absolutely disgusting

I would like to see someone jailed over that.

Gus Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:27:27pm

re: #23 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

This is absolutely disgusting

She was arrested and booked after she was arrested by Phoenix police on a minor drug possession charge.

Read more: [Link: www.abc15.com...]

erik_t Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:28:26pm

re: #31 Tigger2

I would like to see someone jailed over that.

Real jail, not a fucking 120F tent, because this is America and we don't believe in cruel and unusual punishment.

abolitionist Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:28:34pm

re: #31 Tigger2

I would like to see someone jailed over that.

Any particular jail? /

Gus Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:29:07pm

re: #32 Gus

She was arrested and booked after she was arrested by Phoenix police on a minor drug possession charge.

Read more: [Link: www.abc15.com...]

Speaking of which:

Colorado Governor Comes Out Against Marijuana Legalization Initiative

I voted for this asshole. He was also against the sick day initiative in Denver. That's my governor, Hickenlooper, who made a speech at the DNC convention.

Sionainn Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:29:31pm

re: #29 Charles Johnson

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Who is Gary Bauer and why should I care what he says?

goddamnedfrank Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:31:06pm

Intrade has Obama @ 67.5%

Is Rasmussen actually doing polling or are they just making up the numbers they wish existed at this point?

Tigger2 Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:31:37pm

Prefefre: #34 abolitionist

Any particular jail? /

Yes a jail not under Numbnuts Arpaios control.

Gus Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:32:34pm

"It sends the wrong message to kids that drugs are okay."
-- John Hickenlooper

Derp.

jaunte Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:34:21pm

Gary Bauer: Even though welfare check recipients & dead Democrats will vote, our "national nightmare" will be over when Romney wins. #VVS12

— David Badash (@davidbadash) September 14, 2012

Obdicut Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:35:03pm

re: #39 Gus

"It sends the wrong message to kids that drugs are okay."
-- John Hickenlooper

Derp.

He said while enjoying a fine Johnny Walker Blue.

wrenchwench Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:36:00pm

re: #41 Obdicut

He said while enjoying a fine Johnny Walker Blue.

Followed by two aspirins.

Gus Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:36:51pm

re: #41 Obdicut

He said while enjoying a fine Johnny Walker Blue.

He was part owner of Wynkoops once. Actually a founder.

wrenchwench Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:37:46pm

re: #43 Gus

He was part owner of Wynkoops once. Actually a founder.

Protecting his market, then. Isn't that an abuse of his office?

Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:38:33pm

re: #37 goddamnedfrank

Intrade has Obama @ 67.5%

Is Rasmussen actually doing polling or are they just making up the numbers they wish existed at this point?

They exist to keep @JRubinBlogger's hopes up.

Obdicut Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:39:01pm

Anti-marijuana legislation was pretty much started by Hearst because he hated Mexicans and worried about hemp competing with wood pulp for paper-making.

Gus Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:39:22pm

re: #44 wrenchwench

Protecting his market, then. Isn't that an abuse of his office?

I was thinking about that. Hard to argue such a matter -- legally. But yeah. I've gotten pretty shit faced at Wynkoops a few times back in the 90s. Thanks to John Hickenlooper. ;)

Interesting Times Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:39:32pm

re: #45 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Speaking of her, make sure you don't get her real account: @JRubinBlogger

...confused with the parody: @JRubinBIogger (note the capital I where the lowercase l should be)

jaunte Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:39:46pm

Republican Leader Finally Admits That Federal Spending Cuts Kill Jobs

"...with the consequences of that debt ceiling deal due to hit in January — at which point the so-called “sequester” will cut into both military and non-defense discretionary spending — House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-VA) is seemingly having a change of heart. On Thursday he tweeted that the sequester would hurt federal spending in key areas, and thus kill jobs."

goddamnedfrank Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:41:00pm

re: #46 Obdicut

Anti-marijuana legislation was pretty much started by Hearst because he hated Mexicans and worried about hemp competing with wood pulp for paper-making.

Also because he couldn't reconcile the loss of his childhood sled.

jaunte Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:41:25pm

King: Obama "and his leftist minions" are destroying the American "shining city on the hill" and "turn it into rubble" #VVS12

— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) September 14, 2012

AK-47% Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:41:33pm

re: #50 goddamnedfrank

Also because he couldn't reconcile the loss of his childhood sled.

It's real name was "Kind Bud"

Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:42:32pm

re: #47 Gus

I was thinking about that. Hard to argue such a matter -- legally. But yeah. I've gotten pretty shit faced at Wynkoops a few times back in the 90s. Thanks to John Hickenlooper. ;)

According to his Wikipedia entry he might be a Quaker.

And no apparent relation to the Hickenlooper I was more familiar with, Andrew.

Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:42:52pm

re: #48 Interesting Times

oh no, I know here real account, it's the one that, last night, told me to go get a hooker LOL.

Tigger2 Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:43:02pm

re: #51 jaunte

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The Republicans burnt that down years ago.

Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:43:36pm

Even more disgusting

makeitstop Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:45:01pm

re: #55 Tigger2

The Republicans burnt that down years ago.

Only after looting everything of value.

Gus Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:45:44pm

"Former terrorist" Kamal Saleem soon speaking at #VVS12 is actually a complete phony rightwingwatch.org/content/700-cl...
— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) September 14, 2012

Tigger2 Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:46:12pm

re: #57 makeitstop

Only after looting everything of value.

Well ya have to keep the 1% happy./

Gus Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:46:33pm

re: #58 Gus

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Watch live here!

Gus Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:49:32pm

Sounds like an infomercial.

Sionainn Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:49:42pm

Okay, looked up Gary Bauer and his organization. What a douche.

Gus Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:51:26pm

re: #62 Sionainn

Okay, looked up Gary Bauer and his organization. What a douche.

Image: GaryBauerBlackandWhite.jpg

engineer cat Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:51:47pm

i see on the teevee machine that mr obama is showing the signs of the wear and tear of office that affect all presidents

Tigger2 Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:53:03pm

re: #64 engineer cat

i see on the teevee machine that mr obama is showing the signs of the wear and tear of office that affect all presidents

No wonder with the wingers being on him since day one with all their stupid shit and now this. I think hes looking pretty damn good for everything he has been through.

A Mom Anon Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:54:52pm

Gary Bauer was also a contributor to PNAC(which is now just NAC) along with the whole cast and crew of war starting bastids that got us into Iraq. Yay!!

AK-47% Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:55:00pm

re: #64 engineer cat

i see on the teevee machine that mr obama is showing the signs of the wear and tear of office that affect all presidents

It won't affect Mitt Romney, he will look better leaving office than when he comes in...

Sionainn Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:55:48pm

re: #63 Gus

Image: GaryBauerBlackandWhite.jpg

Looks like he's got Graves disease.

Gus Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:55:58pm

This speech. So dumb.

Gus Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:58:08pm

We didn't get to the speed of sound and the moon in a vacuum. It was done with the work of plenty of different nation's work including the British, the Germans, the French. The P-51 Mustang was designed first in England.

blueraven Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:58:11pm

re: #63 Gus

Image: GaryBauerBlackandWhite.jpg

Yikes...how about a warning next time Gus!

Decatur Deb Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:58:27pm

re: #67 Expand Your Ground

It won't affect Mitt Romney, he will look better leaving office than when he comes in...

More human than human..

erik_t Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:00:40pm

re: #70 Gus

We didn't get to the speed of sound and the moon in a vacuum. It was done with the work of plenty of different nation's work including the British, the Germans, the French. The P-51 Mustang was designed first in England.

It was designed to sell to the British, but was very much a North American product (in more ways than one!)

Gus Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:00:43pm

"Former terrorist" Kamal Saleem up now. Watch here: livestream.com/familyresearch... Warning: this will lead to mass wingnuttery event. #p2 #tlot
— Gus (@Gus_802) September 14, 2012

Gus Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:00:58pm

Sounds nutty already.

Lidane Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:05:40pm

According to #VVS12 speaker Kamal Saleem, Obama & US generals plan to "legalize terrorism"rightwingwatch.org/content/saleem...
— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) September 14, 2012

blueraven Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:06:09pm

Mitt Romney has put his conscience in a blind trust for the duration of this campaign...Cynthia Tucker on Hardball

couldn't have said it better

Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:06:59pm

LA Times has posted the movie poster (Lidane)

Really really weird. The Innocence Of Bin Laden". What were they trying to do? Get terrorist sympathizers in there and then piss them off?

So weird.

Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:07:14pm

re: #74 Gus

What a freaking lunatic.

Gus Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:08:21pm

re: #79 Charles Johnson

What a freaking lunatic.

It even sounds like BS.

Targetpractice Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:08:40pm

re: #73 erik_t

It was designed to sell to the British, but was very much a North American product (in more ways than one!)

True, but it was a British engine that turned it from a fairly good low-level attack and recon platform into the marvel machine it became.

Decatur Deb Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:08:51pm

re: #76 Lidane

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According to #VVS12 speaker Kamal Saleem, Obama & US generals plan to "legalize terrorism"

He's right. And by 'legalize', I mean 'make dead'.

Lidane Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:09:56pm

re: #78 Stanley Sea

LA Times has posted the movie poster (Lidane)

Really really weird. The Innocence Of Bin Laden". What were they trying to do? Get terrorist sympathizers in there and then piss them off?

So weird.

OK. I found the link. Here's the movie poster I was talking about earlier:

[Link: latimesblogs.latimes.com...]

jaunte Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:10:08pm

Kamal Saleem says he worked for Iraq, Libya, PLO, Syria, Saudi Arabia & Osama bin Laden! Apparently, #VVS12 is buying it
— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) September 14, 2012

He's a pretend anti-jihad industry leader.

Gus Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:12:26pm

re: #83 Lidane

OK. I found the link. Here's the movie poster I was talking about earlier:

[Link: latimesblogs.latimes.com...]

Yikes.

jaunte Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:13:15pm

I Was a Terrorist…Seriously!

Ex-jihadist Kamal Saleem tells tales of palling around with Arafat, Qaddafi, and Saddam. But his story has some big holes in it.

....
According to his memoir, The Blood of Lambs, Saleem, who grew up in Lebanon, broke into the terror biz at the age of seven by running weapons—strapped onto sheep—for Palestine Liberation Organization leader Yasser Arafat (who kissed his forehead at a public ceremony, "his breath bearing tales of garlic and onion"). As a teenager, he helped run a terrorist camp in the Libyan desert at the behest of Moammar Qaddafi. He visited Iraq, where he rubbed shoulders with Saddam Hussein. In the late 1970s, he traveled to Afghanistan, working alongside the mujahideen and CIA spooks to beat back the Soviets. A Kansas City Star columnist skeptically dubbed him the "Forrest Gump of the Middle East."

Tigger2 Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:13:17pm

re: #85 Gus

Yikes.

re: #83 Lidane

OK. I found the link. Here's the movie poster I was talking about earlier:

[Link: latimesblogs.latimes.com...]

Some people in this country are just pure stupid.

Gus Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:14:34pm

The stupid fake voice.

Gus Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:15:01pm

Kansas birther, complaining of harassment, drops complaint about Obama eligibility tinyurl.com/8pjmb4x
— Ryan J. Reilly (@ryanjreilly) September 14, 2012

Decatur Deb Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:15:14pm

re: #86 jaunte

"Forrest Gump" is good. I was going to go with "Flashman".

Gus Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:15:51pm

Damn. This is pure 100 percent anti-Islam rhetoric. I mean non-stop one after the other.

Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:16:23pm

This guy should be in a mental institution.

Gus Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:17:09pm

re: #92 Charles Johnson

This guy should be in a mental institution.

Even Focus on the Family, Kamal Saleem's former employer, has distanced itself from him rightwingwatch.org/content/michig... #VVS12
— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) September 14, 2012

Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:17:17pm

Is he actually kneeling on the stage?

dragonath Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:17:47pm

re: #87 Tigger2

Some people in this country are just pure stupid.

Youtube Video

blueraven Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:18:18pm

re: #91 Gus

Damn. This is pure 100 percent anti-Islam rhetoric. I mean non-stop one after the other.

with an evangelical furor

Decatur Deb Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:19:28pm

re: #94 Charles Johnson

Is he actually kneeling on the stage?

Think they call it 'the sanctuary' when you kneel on it.

Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:19:32pm

re: #94 Charles Johnson

Is he actually kneeling on the stage?

he's evangelizing, soon he'll get to the part where he asks for money.

I am not watching it and that's probably a good thing for my monitor.

Mocking Jay Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:20:41pm

wtf is this shit

100

Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:21:12pm

Did he really just say that Obama is planning to shut down all churches and synagogues and take over the country?

101

jaunte Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:21:21pm

Chris Hedges; The War Against Tolerance

Walid Shoebat, Kamal Saleem and Zachariah Anani are the three stooges of the Christian right. These self-described former Muslim terrorists are regularly trotted out at Christian colleges—a few days ago they were at the Air Force Academy—to spew racist filth about Islam on behalf of groups such as Focus on the Family. It is a clever tactic. Curly, Larry and Mo, who all say they are born-again Christians, engage in hate speech and assure us it comes from personal experience. They tell their audiences that the only way to deal with one-fifth of the world’s population is by converting or eradicating all Muslims.

Their cant is broadcast regularly on Fox News, including the Bill O’Reilly and Neil Cavuto shows, as well as on numerous Christian radio and television programs. Shoebat, who has written a book called Why We Want to Kill You, promises in his lectures to explain the numerous similarities between radical Muslims and the Nazis, how “Muslim terrorists” invaded America 30 years ago and how “perseverance, recruitment and hate” have fueled attacks by Muslims.

These men are frauds, but this is not the point. They are part of a dark and frightening war by the Christian right against tolerance that, in the moment of another catastrophic terrorist attack on American soil, would make it acceptable to target and persecute all Muslims, including the some 6 million Muslims who live in the United States. These men stoke these irrational fears.[Link: washington-report.org...]

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Tigger2 Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:22:24pm

re: #100 Charles Johnson

Did he really just say that Obama is planning to shut down all churches and synagogues and take over the country?

Sounds like stuff I have heard from the right for 4 years.

103

makeitstop Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:22:27pm

re: #89 Gus

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So, this guy claims harassment and withdraws the complaint - which will most likely lead to Kobach calling off trying to remove Obama from the KS ballot.

I figured it was a grandstand play to rile up the RWNJs. And now they've got new talking points about how Joe Montgomery was intimidated by 'Obama thugs.'

RW victimization, and no move to take Obama off the ballot after crowing about how they were going to do it. All tied up in a neat little bow.

104

Decatur Deb Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:22:39pm

Welcome to the Romney Inaugural Pre-game.

105

Mocking Jay Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:23:26pm

Did I turn on the John Birch convention by accident?

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Killgore Trout Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:23:46pm

re: #83 Lidane

OK. I found the link. Here's the movie poster I was talking about earlier:

[Link: latimesblogs.latimes.com...]

Interesting view into their thinking..

"We passed out fliers at mosques around California where we knew there was a small percentage of terrorists,'' said Klein, a Vietnam veteran that the Southern Poverty Law Center considers a right-wing extremist. "And the idea was to locate, which we did, those folks who believed Osama Bin Laden was a great guy, and to try to get them to come to the movie.''

It looks almost like a practical joke. Lure in radical Islamists and show them a movie to piss them off. I also sort of suspect they were going to make notes on who showed up as part of their "terrorism investigation". What a bunch of nuts.

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Tigger2 Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:23:53pm

re: #105 Mocking Jay

Did I turn on the John Birch convention by accident?

LOL

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Lidane Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:24:53pm

re: #105 Mocking Jay

Did I turn on the John Birch convention by accident?

Is there a difference between the Birchers and the GOP anymore?

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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:25:31pm

He sounds like a senile version of Father Guido Sarducci .

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Dr Lizardo Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:25:51pm

re: #72 Decatur Deb

More human than human..

That's the motto at the Tyrell Corporation where Mitt was manufactured. Nexus 6, I believe. Maybe Nexus 7.

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jaunte Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:25:53pm

Kamal Saleem warns Hillary Clinton will arrest church going Christians #VVS12

— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) September 14, 2012

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Mocking Jay Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:26:02pm

Big gavel = small penis

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Gus Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:26:39pm

re: #109 Our Precious Bodily Fluids

He sounds like a senile version of Father Guido Sarducci .

Sounds fake. Really affected. I grew up around people with real accents. This one sounds totally faked or at least affected.

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Mocking Jay Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:26:46pm

re: #110 Dr Lizardo

That's the motto at the Tyrell Corporation where Mitt was manufactured. Nexus 6, I believe. Maybe Nexus 7.

Uhhh...

[Link: www.google.com...]

And did I just hear free pizza?

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Dr Lizardo Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:26:49pm

re: #108 Lidane

Is there a difference between the Birchers and the GOP anymore?

Not really. I figure the Birchers have taken over the GOP.

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Gus Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:27:05pm

Why does it look like they're using a sepia filter?

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Gus Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:27:26pm

LOL Did you see that bus slide across the screen?

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jaunte Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:27:32pm

Values bus in a rightward skid

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Gus Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:28:05pm

re: #118 jaunte

Values bus in a rightward skid

Reminded me of the first Star Trek intro.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:28:11pm

re: #115 Dr Lizardo

Youtube Video

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Lidane Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:28:17pm

Kamal Saleem suggests Obama wants Iran to have nuclear weapons #VVS12
— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) September 14, 2012

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jaunte Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:28:17pm

Circus music!

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Decatur Deb Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:28:21pm

re: #116 Gus

Why does it look like they're using a sepia filter?

Bullshit vapor on the lens.

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A Mom Anon Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:28:30pm

So what happens to the hatemongers when all their predictions about their guns being taken and their churches being taken over don't come true? None of their fears are coming true,as far as I know,no one's been closing down churches or going door to door for their guns and Christians aren't being flogged in the public square so wtf?

I guess I should feel relief that I don't understand this level of deranged hatred. If nothing else they could be poster children for why we need mental health parity in our healthcare system. Holy crap.

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Mocking Jay Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:29:04pm

re: #122 jaunte

Circus music!

You know, I heard that and didn't think much of it for some reason...

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Gus Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:30:08pm

Gary Bauer: Obama’s Votes Come From Welfare Checks And Voter Fraud

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Lidane Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:30:34pm

re: #106 Killgore Trout

Interesting view into their thinking..

It looks almost like a practical joke. Lure in radical Islamists and show them a movie to piss them off. I also sort of suspect they were going to make notes on who showed up as part of their "terrorism investigation". What a bunch of nuts.

1. Make crazy anti-Islam film, but pass it off as pro-OBL

2. Screen film in Hollywood. Take notes on who shows up to see it.

3. ???

4. PROFIT!

These people are sick in the head and fucking stupid. What did they think was going to happen once a trailer or anything for this film got out?

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Tigger2 Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:31:15pm

re: #124 A Mom Anon

So what happens to the hatemongers when all their predictions about their guns being taken and their churches being taken over don't come true? None of their fears are coming true,as far as I know,no one's been closing down churches or going door to door for their guns and Christians aren't being flogged in the public square so wtf?

I guess I should feel relief that I don't understand this level of deranged hatred. If nothing else they could be poster children for why we need mental health parity in our healthcare system. Holy crap.

If it doesn't happen, it will next year, if it doesn't happen then it will be next year, ya have to keep them scared.

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Cheechako Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:31:39pm

re: #124 A Mom Anon

So what happens to the hatemongers when all their predictions about their guns being taken and their churches being taken over don't come true? None of their fears are coming true,as far as I know,no one's been closing down churches or going door to door for their guns and Christians aren't being flogged in the public square so wtf?

I guess I should feel relief that I don't understand this level of deranged hatred. If nothing else they could be poster children for why we need mental health parity in our healthcare system. Holy crap.

Some how, in their own way, they make a compelling case for "Re-education Camps".
/

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Lidane Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:31:59pm

Even this Fox host gets fed up w/GOP Congressman criticizing Obama for military spending cuts he also supported. Watch: thkpr.gs/PAezqa
— ThinkProgress (@thinkprogress) September 14, 2012

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Dr Lizardo Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:32:22pm

re: #114 Mocking Jay

Cool! You found his control pad.

I wonder what sort of CPU Mitt's running? It's pretty impressive....at first glance, you'd easily mistake him for human.

Put him on Voight-Kampff machine. I figure 50 questions, cross-referenced.

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makeitstop Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:35:03pm

re: #128 Tigger2

If it doesn't happen, it will next year, if it doesn't happen then it will be next year, ya have to keep them scared.

Yep. Remember, Wayne LaPierre says that the fact that Obama hasn't taken everyone's guns yet is proof that he plans to do just that.

All this stuff is definitely going to happen. The timetable is just a little slippery.
/

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A Mom Anon Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:35:30pm

re: #127 Lidane

I'm starting to think they knew,at least to some degree what this would do,especially once it hit the internet with the translated version. Sort of a "see,we tried to warn you what savages they are,and now look"kind of thing. Baiting. Like the retrograde assholes who run for office,who loudly proclaim they hate the government,get elected,then proceed to fuck things up so they can tell everyone how broken things are.

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erik_t Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:35:49pm

re: #128 Tigger2

If it doesn't happen, it will next year, if it doesn't happen then it will be next year, ya have to keep them scared.

If it doesn't happen, it's proof that they've successfully helped carry out God's Plan and therefore they have to redouble their efforts to fight the next thing down the line andohbytheway the collection plate is looking a little neglected.

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dragonath Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:36:00pm

re: #124 A Mom Anon

They'd love it if religion took over government though. God's shepards and all that.

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goddamnedfrank Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:37:17pm

re: #106 Killgore Trout

Interesting view into their thinking..

It looks almost like a practical joke. Lure in radical Islamists and show them a movie to piss them off. I also sort of suspect they were going to make notes on who showed up as part of their "terrorism investigation". What a bunch of nuts.

What do you think about the Christian filmmakers constructing a fictional Jew to deflect all the blowback onto that community? Yup, that's some real nutty practical jokesterism. Fucking hilarious.

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Dr Lizardo Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:37:28pm

re: #127 Lidane

1. Make crazy anti-Islam film, but pass it off as pro-OBL

2. Screen film in Hollywood. Take notes on who shows up to see it.

3. ???

4. PROFIT!

These people are sick in the head and fucking stupid. What did they think was going to happen once a trailer or anything for this film got out?

I think it may have been;

Make this crazy-ass film: pass it off as the work of "prominent Israelis": start an explosion in the Middle East: sit back and watch the world burn: use acts of violence as a pretext for stripping Muslim-Americans of their civil rights.

Indeed, with the last point, some of the lunatics at FR have already proposed suspending habeus corpus for Muslims. So they can be rounded into camps, like the Japanese in WWII.

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JamesWI Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:38:20pm

Intrade odds for Mitt Romney:

September 9th - 42.8%
September 14th - 32.8%

Meanwhile, hacks like Jennifer Rubin continue in the fantasy that Mitt is scoring points by politicizing the attacks.

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Decatur Deb Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:39:19pm

re: #131 Dr Lizardo

Cool! You found his control pad.

I wonder what sort of CPU Mitt's running? It's pretty impressive....at first glance, you'd easily mistake him for human.

Put him on Voight-Kampff machine. I figure 50 questions, cross-referenced.

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Brie on fire in the formagerie of Orleans. I watched mannequins glitter in the dark near the Versailles gate. All those moments will be lost in time... like club soda in rain... Time to lie...

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dragonfire1981 Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:39:35pm

re: #106 Killgore Trout

Interesting view into their thinking..

It looks almost like a practical joke. Lure in radical Islamists and show them a movie to piss them off. I also sort of suspect they were going to make notes on who showed up as part of their "terrorism investigation". What a bunch of nuts.

I just have to wonder if they were going to pull an Inglorious Basterds on them (If you don't know, go look up what happens at the end the movie).

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Tigger2 Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:39:53pm

re: #134 erik_t

If it doesn't happen, it's proof that they've successfully helped carry out God's Plan and therefore they have to redouble their efforts to fight the next thing down the line andohbytheway the collection plate is looking a little neglected.

If the Republicans didn't keep their people scared they would lose voters because they sure couldn't keep them with their policies. lol

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Lidane Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:39:57pm

re: #137 Dr Lizardo

I think it may have been;

Make this crazy-ass film: pass it off as the work of "prominent Israelis": start an explosion in the Middle East: sit back and watch the world burn: use acts of violence as a pretext for stripping Muslim-Americans of their civil rights.

Indeed, with the last point, some of the lunatics at FR have already proposed suspending habeus corpus for Muslims. So they can be rounded into camps, like the Japanese in WWII.

I think you're on to something. The whole thing doesn't pass the smell test at all. And this wasn't a practical joke.

These people were deliberately looking to provoke a reaction. It's "Fire!" in a crowded theater writ large, and it's gotten people killed. And they knew there would be blowback so they created a fake backstory of a bunch of Jews financing and publicizing the film so that they could maybe avoid the consequences of their actions. This is unacceptable.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:39:58pm

re: #138 JamesWI

she's also hanging on Rasmussen's cheerleading. I suggested that she might want to seek some counselling and she told me I needed to get a hooker *shrug*

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Bulworth Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:40:12pm

If it doesn't happen, it's proof that they've successfully helped carry out God's Plan and therefore they have to redouble their efforts to fight the next thing down the line andohbytheway the collection plate is looking a little neglected.

Heh, indeedy.

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Dr Lizardo Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:40:15pm

re: #139 Decatur Deb

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Brie on fire in the formagerie of Orleans. I watched mannequins glitter in the dark near the Versailles gate. All those moments will be lost in time... like club soda in rain... Time to lie...

Brilliant.

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dragonfire1981 Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:40:45pm

re: #117 Gus

LOL Did you see that bus slide across the screen?

Was Obama underneath it?

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JamesWI Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:41:55pm

re: #143 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

she's also hanging on Rasmussen's cheerleading. I suggested that she might want to seek some counselling and she told me I needed to get a hooker *shrug*

Between her and Dana Loesch, there certainly seems to be a need to turn everything sexual the moment someone points out they're wrong.

I guess that happens when you spend your life defending the party that wants to repress your sexuality.

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Romantic Heretic Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:43:16pm

re: #24 Dr Lizardo

The wingnuts remind me in some way of the Bolsheviks; dedicated revolutionaries who ate, drank, talked, and lived revolution every moment of their waking lives, and when they were asleep, they no doubt dreamed of it. Of course, when their moment came, they relied not on practical politics, but on the politics of prophecy. Vanguardism; they represented the Russian workers/peasants not as they were, but as they would become.

The wingnuts seem to regard themselves as a similar kind of "revolutionary vanguard", though in their case, replace "revolutionary" with "reactionary". That's just my personal observation.

I've been regarding them as revolutionaries for years. Mostly because they make it clear they will destroy the system of government as it now exists and replace it with a system that gives them the power to decide, well, everything without those pesky elections and checks and balances.

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Killgore Trout Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:43:48pm

re: #127 Lidane

1. Make crazy anti-Islam film, but pass it off as pro-OBL

2. Screen film in Hollywood. Take notes on who shows up to see it.

3. ???

4. PROFIT!

These people are sick in the head and fucking stupid. What did they think was going to happen once a trailer or anything for this film got out?

I don't think they thought that far ahead. These guys are just plain stupid. I doubt they had much intention beyond the silly plan to lure radicals to the screening. As an afterthought they might have done the translation into Arabic or sent it to the Egyptian Islamist station.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:44:42pm

Romney campaign clarifies, whatever Obama's red line with Iran is ours is even further back!

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Mocking Jay Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:44:50pm

Why do so many Jews hate Israel?

.@zekejmiller gets his hands on some unreleased Gallup data showing Obama extending his lead wiht Jewish voters buzzfeed.com/zekejmiller/ob…

— Ben Smith (@BuzzFeedBen) September 14, 2012

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Dr Lizardo Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:45:59pm

re: #142 Lidane

I think you're on to something. The whole thing doesn't pass the smell test at all. And this wasn't a practical joke.

These people were deliberately looking to provoke a reaction. It's "Fire!" in a crowded theater writ large, and it's gotten people killed. And they knew there would be blowback so they created a fake backstory of a bunch of Jews financing and publicizing the film so that they could maybe avoid the consequences of their actions. This is unacceptable.

I'm not a conspiracist; I detest conspiracist thinking. However, this is not to say that aren't real conspiracies. I think the fake backstory about the film being financed by "wealthy Jewish donors" was more than a means of avoiding blame or the consequences of their actions, as they knew damned well what would likely happen; I think that backstory was contrived so as to enrage the Muslim community against Israel, and maybe trigger off a few suicide bombings or other acts of terrorism in retaliation.

It's a hunch. But if it's true, it's disgusting beyond belief. It's like the man who wrote the "Protocols of Zion", knowing damned well the reaction it would provoke against innocent Jewish people, specifically, pogroms.

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Obdicut Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:46:43pm

re: #149 Killgore Trout

I don't think they thought that far ahead. These guys are just plain stupid. I doubt they had much intention beyond the silly plan to lure radicals to the screening. As an afterthought they might have done the translation into Arabic or sent it to the Egyptian Islamist station.

They fought far enough ahead to create not just a fictional Jewish filmmaker, but allege that they had the support of 100 Jews in funding it. That's beyond silly plans to lure radicals to the screening. That's cynically fomenting hate between Muslims and Jews while attempting to shield themselves from fallout.

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goddamnedfrank Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:47:24pm

re: #149 Killgore Trout

I don't think they thought that far ahead. These guys are just plain stupid. I doubt they had much intention beyond the silly plan to lure radicals to the screening. As an afterthought they might have done the translation into Arabic or sent it to the Egyptian Islamist station.

You seem willing to dismiss a lot of obvious evidence of premeditation. They overdubbed the audio because they knew the actors and crew needed to be duped to go along with the production. They did put up a translated version, sent it through the Mid East, and had a fictional Israeli Jew scapegoat constructed to divert all the blame away from the real Coptic filmmakers. They seem to have thought very far ahead.

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Mocking Jay Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:47:44pm

re: #150 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Mr. Romney, said Mr. Cohen, “would not be content with an Iran one screwdriver’s turn away from a nuclear weapon.”

This is some really childish shit right here.

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Lidane Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:49:44pm

re: #152 Dr Lizardo

I'm not a conspiracist; I detest conspiracist thinking. However, this is not to say that aren't real conspiracies. I think the fake backstory about the film being financed by "wealthy Jewish donors" was more than a means of avoiding blame or the consequences of their actions, as they knew damned well what would likely happen; I think that backstory was contrived so as to enrage the Muslim community against Israel, and maybe trigger off a few suicide bombings or other acts of terrorism in retaliation.

It's a hunch. But if it's true, it's disgusting beyond belief. It's like the man who wrote the "Protocols of Zion", knowing damned well the reaction it would provoke against innocent Jewish people, specifically, pogroms.

I'm not a conspiracist either, but there's a lot of merit here. This film was not only a deliberate provocation, but these nutjobs had a whole plan of screening the film in Hollywood and taking notes on who showed up to see it, and they created fake stories about who made the film to deflect blame from themselves and to further enrage people.

It was a deliberate act and it got people killed. That's wrong.

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Patricia Kayden Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:54:45pm

So why doesn't Romney tell the Kansas GOP idiots to get off this birtherism nonsense? Why not stand up to the racists in his party and tell them to stop the foolishness? There is no way that President Obama's name is not going to be on the ballot in every state.
Then they wonder why Blacks overwhelmingly vote for Democrats. Such a mystery.

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Mocking Jay Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:55:06pm

At most 100,000 Muslims participate in anti-American protests across 10 or so countries. US press treats it like a cataclysm. My paper too.
— Dan Murphy (@bungdan) September 14, 2012

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Dr Lizardo Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:59:51pm

re: #157 Patricia Kayden

So why doesn't Romney tell the Kansas GOP idiots to get off this birtherism nonsense? Why not stand up to the racists in his party and tell them to stop the foolishness? There is no way that President Obama's name is not going to be on the ballot in every state.
Then they wonder why Blacks overwhelmingly vote for Democrats. Such a mystery.

Because if Romney grew a damn spine and actually told the Birthers to STFU and then told the racists and other loonies to go somewhere else, he'd so alienate a significant proportion of the GOP base, he'd lose in a landslide, and I'm talking a landslide of Reagan vs. Mondale proportions.

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Dr Lizardo Fri, Sep 14, 2012 3:01:19pm

re: #156 Lidane

I'm not a conspiracist either, but there's a lot of merit here. This film was not only a deliberate provocation, but these nutjobs had a whole plan of screening the film in Hollywood and taking notes on who showed up to see it, and they created fake stories about who made the film to deflect blame from themselves and to further enrage people.

It was a deliberate act and it got people killed. That's wrong.

To me, it's beyond wrong: it's utterly, cynically depraved. Anyone who would do something like that is a vile and base creature.

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Varek Raith Fri, Sep 14, 2012 3:03:49pm

re: #130 Lidane

[Embedded content]

You know you're so totally full of shit when Derp & Friends criticize you.

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Romantic Heretic Fri, Sep 14, 2012 3:27:37pm

re: #156 Lidane

It was a deliberate act and it got people killed. That's ~~wrong~~ evil.

FTFY.

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funky chicken Fri, Sep 14, 2012 4:07:36pm

re: #23 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

This is absolutely disgusting

Link to ABC article, where it says her tox screen was negative. She was in jail for a "minor drug charge" that was apparently bogus...hadn't even gone before a judge.

Kansas GOP Birthers Want to Remove Obama from the Ballot

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