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Wingnut Bloggers Claimed Photos Showed ‘Muslims Dragging Stevens’ - Actually Showed Libyan Rescuers

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New reports from Libya confirm that the Libyan citizens the right wing blogosphere claimed were “dragging Ambassador Stevens’ body through the streets like Somalia” were actually trying to save his life: Video Appears to Show Libyans Retrieving Envoy’s Body.

Labeled the work of Fahd al-Bakkosh, the video centers on what appears to be the same tall, narrow window that witnesses have described as Mr. Stevens’s last exit. The witnesses said residents drawn to the scene had forced open the window and found Mr. Stevens behind a locked iron gate, pulled him out and taken him to the hospital. In the video, none say anything that shows ill will.

“I swear, he’s dead,” one Libyan says, peering in.

“Bring him out, man! Bring him out,” another says.

“The man is alive. Move out of the way,” others shout. “Just bring him out, man.”

“Move, move, he is still alive!”

“Alive, Alive! God is great,” the crowd erupts, while someone calls to bring Mr. Stevens to a car.

Mr. Stevens was taken to a hospital, where a doctor tried to revive him, but said he was all but dead on arrival.

More info from the AP: Libyan Witness: Stevens Was Breathing When Found.

A group of people gathered as several men pulled the seemingly lifeless form from the room. They saw he was alive and a foreigner, though no one recognized him as Stevens, al-Bakoush said.

He was breathing and his eyelids flickered, he said. “I tested his pulse and he was alive,” he said “No doubt. His face was blackened and he was like a paralyzed person.”

Video taken by al-Bakoush and posted on YouTube shows Stevens being carried out of a small dark room through a window with a raised shutter and being laid on the floor. One man touches his neck to feel for a pulse. Some of the men shout, “God is great.”

The video has been authenticated since Stevens’ face is clearly visible and he is wearing the same white t-shirt seen in authenticated photos of him being carried away one another man’s shoulders, presumably moments later.

Right wing bloggers almost universally seized on early photos of this chaotic scene, jumped to the false conclusion that these were the people who killed Ambassador Stevens, and promptly started ranting about barbaric Muslims.

In fact, those photographs actually showed Libyans rushing Stevens to the hospital.

Recapping some of the right wing blogs’ reactions:

The stupidest person on the Internet, Jim Hoft, demonstrated again that he’s also one of the most hateful people on the Internet: ISLAMISTS DRAG DEAD BODY of US AMBASSADOR THROUGH the STREETS of BENGHAZI! (Updated) …Another Photo! | the Gateway Pundit.

Hoft went even further, repeating a disgusting bogus report from a Lebanese tabloid: Horror!… Lebanese Reports: US Ambassador Raped Before His Murder | the Gateway Pundit.

Hateblogger Pamela Geller is even more vile than Hoft, though. This is how Geller portrays the video showing the rescuers trying to save Ambassador Stevens: VIDEO SHOWS US AMBASSADOR BEING DRAGGED FROM SAFEHOUSE IN LIBYA BY MUSLIMS SCREAMING ALLAHU AKBAR.

John Hinderaker of Powerline posted a photo of Stevens being rushed to the hospital with this comment:

I can’t tell from the photo whether he was dead at this time or not. I hope so…

Michael Patrick Leahy at breitbart.com also posted one of the photos of Stevens being rescued, with this comment:

Photographic images told a different story of the crowd’s conduct, however. Rather than aiding Ambassador Stevens, the crowd appeared to be dragging him through the streets. One image showed a member of the crowd carrying an unidentified man that appears to be Ambassador Stevens on his shoulders like a hunting trophy.

What the hell is wrong with these people?

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194 comments

1 Lidane  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 1:54:01pm
What the hell is wrong with these people?

They're stupid and bigoted.

2 DisturbedEma  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 1:54:52pm

Sadly, at the end of the day, the truth will not, does not matter to the deranged, they need that derangement. . .so farking frustrating. . .

3 Killgore Trout  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 1:56:12pm

It also dispels the weird rumor that his corpse was sodomized. It looks like they're pulling him out of the smoke filled safe room where he was hiding.

4 jaunte  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 1:56:24pm

"Rescuing while Muslim."

5 Kragar  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 1:56:28pm

Who needs facts when you have rage?

6 erik_t  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 1:57:08pm

90% of Libyans appear to kick ass and I'll be proud to call them, either in present or future tense, friends and allies.

7 Kragar  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 1:57:50pm

I love how the wingnuts keep saying they must all be terrorists because they said "Allahu Akbar!"

8 Killgore Trout  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 1:57:54pm

re: #2 DisturbedEma

Sadly, at the end of the day, the truth will not, does not matter to the deranged, they need that derangement. . .so farking frustrating. . .

When I checked the links going around to this story this morning even the Breitbart cretins had updated their article with an update link to the NYT.

9 DisturbedEma  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 1:59:10pm

re: #8 Killgore Trout

I'd go check those comment sections. . .that's where all the "fun" is. . ./

10 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 1:59:52pm

re: #8 Killgore Trout

When I checked the links going around to this story this morning even the Breitbart cretins had updated their article with an update link to the NYT.

There's no update on the Breitbart post I linked above.

11 A Mom Anon  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:00:55pm

What is wrong with these people?

They have no compassion or empathy and so they cannot fathom it in others. In that situation they would only worry about their own well being,fuck everyone else. They are bereft of humanity.

12 jaunte  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:01:35pm
13 Killgore Trout  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:01:43pm

re: #10 Charles Johnson

There's no update on the Breitbart post I linked above.

This one does
Video Purports To Show US Ambassador Dragged From Benghazi Consulate - UPDATES

UPDATE 10:05 PM ET

The New York Times now offers their translation to the events in the video:

“I swear, he’s dead,” one Libyan says, peering in.

“Bring him out, man! Bring him out,” another says.

“The man is alive. Move out of the way,” others shout. “Just bring him out, man.”

“Move, move, he is still alive!”

“Alive, Alive! God is great,” the crowd erupts, while someone calls to bring Mr. Stevens to a car.

14 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:01:48pm
15 MittDoesNotCompute  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:02:06pm

re: #7 Kragar

I love how the wingnuts keep saying they must all be terrorists because they said "Allahu Akbar!"

Strip away the context of any situation and you can make anything into whatever you want it to be, something the RWNJs are very adept at.

Funny how they never saying anything about people saying "thank God" or "praise Jesus" when shit goes down, because it's more or less the same sentiment.

16 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:02:41pm

The latest Breitbart post on the video of Stevens starts out by going right for the "barbaric Muslims" angle: BREAKING: Video Purports to Show US Ambassador Dragged From Benghazi Consulate.

There are a couple of updates as they start to realize they may have jumped the gun.

But they've posted numerous articles since the attack referring to the body being dragged through the streets.

17 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:03:14pm

Wingers turn them into animals to justify their bigotry, and to rationalize the behavior of some idiot who decides to take "matters" into their own hands.
It's sick.

18 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:03:34pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

The latest Breitbart post on the video of Stevens starts out by going right for the "barbaric Muslims" angle: BREAKING: Video Purports to Show US Ambassador Dragged From Benghazi Consulate.

There are a couple of updates as they start to realize they may have jumped the gun.

But they've posted numerous articles since the attack referring to the body being dragged through the streets.

Leading to that "weird rumor" that persists.

19 A Mom Anon  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:05:06pm

re: #12 jaunte

I bet that post is gone within the hour.

20 abolitionist  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:05:11pm

I checked out Aljizeera first, figuring they might have fewer axes to grind. Seems to have been fairly accurate:
US envoy dies in Benghazi consulate attack
Ambassador and three staff killed during attack in eastern Libya city over film deemed insulting by Muslims.
Last Modified: 12 Sep 2012 18:20
-- 5 days ago

21 Kragar  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:08:42pm

Romney Kicks Off Hispanic Outreach Effort With Full-Throated Attack On ‘Amnesty’

Mitt Romney did not say anything new on immigration in a Monday speech billed by his campaign as an example of a new specifics-oriented push from the campaign. Instead, Romney reasserted stances that Hispanic advocates say have kept him way back in the polls.

Romney reiterated many of his existing views on immigration to the Hispanic Chamber of Commerce Monday. The only real difference following his campaign’s promise to offer more specifics on a raft of issues this week was a harsher tone than he’s used before.

Mitt Romney seems to think outreach is to tell people why they're stupid for not shutting up and supporting him.

22 darthstar  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:10:10pm
23 kirkspencer  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:10:24pm

they start with an assumption and take evidence that supports (and for as long as possible refuse contrary evidence.)

In this case the assumption is that all middle easterners (except Israelis) are evil. Some are occasionally able to suppress their evil, but in reality they all not only hate us but are evil.

It allows them to justify their own hatred.

24 ElCapitanAmerica  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:10:42pm
25 Obdicut  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:11:17pm

re: #21 Kragar

Just as he did at the NALEO speech in June, Romney declined to say what he’d do with the people given temporary legal status under Obama’s executive order, promising only to “pursue permanent immigration reform” and reiterating his support for a path to citizenship for DREAM-eligible immigrants who serve in the military.

Imagine that: Romney refused to actually say what he was going to do.

26 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:12:06pm

Notice that Hinderaker actually hoped Ambassador Stevens was dead.

27 Kragar  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:12:14pm

re: #22 darthstar

WIN

Image: 394309_4523060205256_1449853168_n.jpg

I've got to remember to take my camera with me next time I go to the Japanese supermarket. They have a little side store with a sign of David Bowie that says "Unattended Children will the given to The Goblin King!"

28 erik_t  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:12:23pm

re: #24 ElCapitanAmerica

There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. That that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what…These are people who pay no income tax.

Good fucking god, I cannot say here what I think of that man.

29 wrenchwench  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:13:09pm

re: #26 Charles Johnson

Notice that Hinderaker actually hoped Ambassador Stevens was dead.

Because being carried to the hospital by Muslims is a worse fate...

30 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:16:07pm

You know, maybe it's just me, but if I had posted something like, "I sure hope that guy's dead so he can't feel the torture those savage Muslims are inflicting on him," then discovered that the picture actually showed Muslims trying to save the guy's life, I'd feel pretty damned shitty.

31 darthstar  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:17:22pm

Hardball debating why Romney picked Paul Ryan...I have the answer.

32 Kragar  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:17:40pm

Mitt Romney Relies On Rick Santorum’s Claims To Defend His Anti-Gay And Anti-Choice Positions

ROMNEY: We will uphold the sanctity of life, not abandon or ignore it. And we will defend marriage, not try to redefine it. We need a President who understands that we will not have a strong economy unless we have strong communities and strong families. This isn’t conjecture or some quaint belief, it’s evidenced by a Brookings Institution study that Rick Santorum brought to my attention some time ago. For those who graduate from high school, get a full-time job, and wait until they’re 21 until they marry and then have their first child, the probability that they will be poor is 2 percent, but if those things are absent, the probability of becoming poor is 76 percent. In short, culture matters, and as President, I’ll protect our culture and preserve the values of hard work, personal responsibility, family, and faith.

33 darthstar  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:18:07pm

Uh-oh...Fox has forgotten one of their own.

34 A Mom Anon  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:18:09pm

re: #30 Charles Johnson

Because you have a conscience and compassion. Hinderaker sold his off to the highest bidder years ago. If he had any to begin with that is.

35 HappyWarrior  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:18:25pm

re: #32 Kragar

Mitt Romney Relies On Rick Santorum’s Claims To Defend His Anti-Gay And Anti-Choice Positions

ROMNEY: We will uphold the sanctity of life, not abandon or ignore it. And we will defend marriage, not try to redefine it. We need a President who understands that we will not have a strong economy unless we have strong communities and strong families. This isn’t conjecture or some quaint belief, it’s evidenced by a Brookings Institution study that Rick Santorum brought to my attention some time ago. For those who graduate from high school, get a full-time job, and wait until they’re 21 until they marry and then have their first child, the probability that they will be poor is 2 percent, but if those things are absent, the probability of becoming poor is 76 percent. In short, culture matters, and as President, I’ll protect our culture and preserve the values of hard work, personal responsibility, family, and faith.

Full Metal Derp.

36 Kragar  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:18:32pm

re: #30 Charles Johnson

You know, maybe it's just me, but if I had posted something like, "I sure hope that guy's dead so he can't feel the torture those savage Muslims are inflicting on him," then discovered that the picture actually showed Muslims trying to save the guy's life, I'd feel pretty damned shitty.

There you go bragging about having one of those soul things again.
/

37 darthstar  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:19:01pm

I like this one because it mentions Jesus. :)

38 Sionainn  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:19:31pm

re: #13 Killgore Trout

This one does
Video Purports To Show US Ambassador Dragged From Benghazi Consulate - UPDATES

Did you read the comments? Those people are sick puppies.

39 General Nimrod Bodfish  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:19:34pm

re: #30 Charles Johnson

Well, that's because you have a soul, the RW has sold theirs to make their fortune off of bigotry and hate.

40 Kragar  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:20:35pm

re: #35 HappyWarrior

Full Medal Derp.

I want to know where he gets the numbers to calculate those percentages, because it seems to me that he pulled them out of this ass.

41 HappyWarrior  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:21:41pm

re: #40 Kragar

I want to know where he gets the numbers to calculate those percentages, because it seems to me that he pulled them out of this ass.

Probably. He talks out of the same ass alot.

42 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:24:18pm

re: #38 Sionainn

Did you read the comments? Those people are sick puppies.

Horrific.

43 The Ghost of a Flea  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:26:06pm

re: #35 HappyWarrior

Full Metal Derp.

Mitt Romney: Spooning with the Bad Crazy.

44 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:26:09pm

re: #40 Kragar

I want to know where he gets the numbers to calculate those percentages, because it seems to me that he pulled them out of this ass.

From a comment thread on reddit, a bunch of words I wish I'd thought up:

Romnipotent: "completely powerless, inconsequential, trivial".
Romniscient: "completely wrong about absolutely everything"
Romnipresent: wherever he is, people wish they were elsewhere
Romnevolent: "boundlessly generous to people who don't need it" (alternately, "neither benevolent nor malevolent, but completely self-serving")

45 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:26:25pm

O/T, sorry, but wtf Tina Brown.

46 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:26:30pm

re: #31 darthstar

Hardball debating why Romney picked Paul Ryan...I have the answer.

[Embedded content]

I thought it was because they were both terrible, horrible no good, very bad liars.

47 CriticalDragon1177  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:28:53pm

Charles Johnson,

These People really ought to be ashamed of themselves, but most likely they won't be. I would love it, if both Pamela Geller and Jim Hoft had their careers destroyed over this, but I doubt that will happen either.

48 SpaceJesus  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:29:07pm

I don't know if Romney could make himself look much worse

49 Kragar  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:29:39pm

re: #48 SpaceJesus

I don't know if Romney could make himself look much worse

CHALLENGE ACCEPTED!

50 HappyWarrior  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:29:44pm

re: #48 SpaceJesus

I don't know if Romney could make himself look much worse

He can and I am sure he will.

51 SpaceJesus  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:30:46pm

Nevermind

Image: uuZOv.png

52 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:31:15pm

re: #48 SpaceJesus

I don't know if Romney could make himself look much worse

He and Ryan should do a drive by mooning at an Obama rally.

53 Amory Blaine  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:31:31pm

Hiding behind the 1st amendment to spread vile lies is despicable.

54 Kragar  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:32:11pm
55 jvic  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:32:58pm

Hoft went even further, repeating a disgusting bogus report from a Lebanese tabloid: Horror!… Lebanese Reports: US Ambassador Raped Before His Murder | the Gateway Pundit.

Presumably a medical examination of the body can indicate whether or not Stevens was raped. Have the results of such an examination been reported?

56 bratwurst  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:33:47pm

re: #51 SpaceJesus

Nevermind

Image: uuZOv.png

And they say the man lacks foreign policy experience! Hard to imagine there has ever been a candidate with a greater financial interest in so many foreign countries.

57 A Mom Anon  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:33:50pm

re: #50 HappyWarrior

He'll just keep doubling down on derp. Because being rich and republican means never having to say you're sorry(or wrong).

58 Obdicut  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:33:50pm

re: #55 jvic

Why would they look for something like that? Jesus.

59 Kragar  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:33:56pm

re: #55 jvic

Hoft went even further, repeating a disgusting bogus report from a Lebanese tabloid: Horror!… Lebanese Reports: US Ambassador Raped Before His Murder | the Gateway Pundit.

Presumably a medical examination of the body can indicate whether or not Stevens was raped. Have the results of such an examination been reported?

He was reporting the possible reports, like any good reporter would...
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60 Kragar  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:34:51pm

re: #56 bratwurst

And they say the man lacks foreign policy experience! Hard to imagine there has ever been a candidate with a greater financial interest in so many foreign countries.

Looking into Mitt's off shore personal finances are a distraction.

61 engineer cat  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:36:07pm

re: #51 SpaceJesus

Nevermind

Image: uuZOv.png

Fall Season Of Where Is Mitt's Money?? Starts Sunday 10pm On HBO

62 Kragar  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:38:30pm

Sarah Palin Claims Anti-Muslim Video Doesn’t Exist


Now, as for this film, as you mentioned in your intro there, that is a red herring and the media is going along with some in the Obama administration, pretending like this is a protest against some phantom video on YouTube?
No. It’s because the Obama administration dropped the ball. And they have not taken head-on this war on terror, and they have adopted a foreign policy of appeasement where our enemies no longer fear us and our friends can no longer trust us.

63 Killgore Trout  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:38:58pm

re: #45 Stanley Sea

O/T, sorry, but wtf Tina Brown.

[Embedded content]

There's some outrage brewing over the Newsweek cover. The only "Journalist" I recognized on the list is Mondowiess contributor Max Blumenthal. I suppose there some legitimate journalistic debate to be had over the cover but I haven't seen any yet.

64 HappyWarrior  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:39:11pm

re: #62 Kragar

Sarah Palin Claims Anti-Muslim Video Doesn’t Exist

Can I just say how thankful I am this woman isn't anywhere near the presidency and probably never will?

65 erik_t  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:39:41pm

re: #62 Kragar

Sarah Palin Claims Anti-Muslim Video Doesn’t Exist

IMHO: Sarah isn't claiming that the video doesn't exist. She's just reminding us that her grasp of the English language is very, very poor.

66 SpaceJesus  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:39:43pm

re: #62 Kragar

I'm genuinely confused. What is she even trying to do?

67 Gus  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:39:45pm

When I first looked at the image I remember thinking that these must be the rescuers since the man holding the ambassador has a cell phone in his mouth.

68 Velvet Elvis  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:39:56pm

I just tried posting a page twice but it didn't go through. Are there some new requirements or restrictions I might not be aware of?

69 Kragar  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:40:35pm

re: #66 SpaceJesus

I'm genuinely confused. What is she even trying to do?

"OBAMA BAD! AMERICA GOOD! GOD!"

70 wrenchwench  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:41:07pm

re: #51 SpaceJesus

Nevermind

Image: uuZOv.png

You're just envious, and promoting class warfare.

71 Lidane  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:42:00pm

re: #66 SpaceJesus

I'm genuinely confused. What is she even trying to do?

Put her fake, lying ass back in front of the cameras.

72 Kragar  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:42:33pm

Apparently its only a war on terror when you invade any country at the drop of a hat, not doing things like actually taking out leaders and their cells on a regular basis.

73 Killgore Trout  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:44:32pm

Not much thought provoking debate nut the headline did make me laugh
Newsweek's 'MUSLIM RAGE' Cover Draws Angry Protest

74 Mr. Crankypants  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:45:15pm

re: #27 Kragar

I've got to remember to take my camera with me next time I go to the Japanese supermarket. They have a little side store with a sign of David Bowie that says "Unattended Children will the given to The Goblin King!"

My favorite sign of this type threatens to give them 3 double espressos and a free kitten.

75 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:45:16pm

Sarah needs to go back to watching Russia from her window.

76 Gus  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:45:45pm

re: #63 Killgore Trout

There's some outrage brewing over the Newsweek cover. The only "Journalist" I recognized on the list is Mondowiess contributor Max Blumenthal. I suppose there some legitimate journalistic debate to be had over the cover but I haven't seen any yet.

I'm not going to pay much attention to that Newsweek thing. I still think those [redacted] extremists are fucked in the head.

77 Kragar  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:45:49pm

Matt Barber: Liberals and Muslims both hate the One True God

Yes, liberals’ desperate attempts to secularize America and eradicate her rich, Judeo-Christian heritage must be vigorously combatted. The left’s militant crusade to exorcise public recognition of God must not go unchallenged.

As Muslim radicals’ conduct murderous assaults on U.S. embassies around the world, secularist radicals are no less determined to kill freedom. There is, you see, a tie that binds. Both groups hate – with a visceral, all-consuming kind of hatred – the one true God. They hate all things Judeo-Christian.

But they also share a common goal. God-deniers want to destroy the America of our founding – the America of which George Washington said in his inaugural address: “The propitious smiles of Heaven can never be expected on a nation that disregards the eternal rules of order and right which Heaven itself has ordained.”

Millions of Muslims, on the other hand, simply want to destroy America.

78 Amory Blaine  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:46:45pm

re: #56 bratwurst

And they say the man lacks foreign policy experience! Hard to imagine there has ever been a candidate with a greater financial interest in so many foreign countries.

It's like how scientists tag whales in the ocean. They should tag one of Mitts checks and watch it fly around the globe.

79 Kragar  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:47:58pm

Old Fashioned Guy on the One True God.

80 blueraven  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:49:50pm

re: #64 HappyWarrior

Can I just say how thankful I am this woman isn't anywhere near the presidency and probably never will?

She probably doesn't understand how to use the word "phantom" in context.

81 Mr. Crankypants  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:50:17pm

Liz Warren up 2 on Brown by 2-6 points from 2 points behind previously. It's gonna be interesting to watch the wingnut head explosions. Wonder if Gallagher has any tarps left over now that he's not doing standup?

82 Mr. Crankypants  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:51:36pm

re: #78 Amory Blaine

It's like how scientists tag whales in the ocean. They should tag one of Mitts checks and watch it fly around the globe.

They tried that with his policy positions and discovered that he was using quantum teleportation to allow him to hold two different positions simultaneously.

83 Kragar  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:51:43pm

An Ex-Terrorist Walks Into a Conservative Conference...

Saleem, a Lebanese-born evangelist, has made a career out of speaking to Christian groups about his experiences with the Muslim Brotherhood in the 1970s and '80s. He claims to have been worked, at various points, for Saddam Hussein, Muammar Qaddafi, and Yasser Arafat, not to mention Saudi terrorists in Afghanistan. In 1979, he says he traveled to the United States on the terrorists' dime to build sleeper cells for the inevitable jihadist takeover, before—miraculously—finding the light and converting to Christianity.

But as I reported in a piece for the magazine last spring, much of Saleem's story doesn't add up. California police have no record of an incident he describes vividly in the first chapter of his book; the FBI says it has no record of meeting with him. And those who knew him before he began traveling the country under a stage name say they have serious doubts about huge portions of his narrative. Wally Winter, a former roommate during the period Saleem purports to have been grooming terrorists, told me, "He could sell swampland in Louisiana. I really do not believe the story about the terrorism."

84 Mr. Crankypants  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:52:20pm

re: #83 Kragar

An Ex-Terrorist Walks Into a Conservative Conference...

The title sounds like the set up for a really bad joke, oh wait, it is.

85 Kragar  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:53:28pm

re: #82 PT Barnum

They tried that with his policy positions and discovered that he was using quantum teleportation to allow him to hold two different positions simultaneously.

Romney produces a rare particle of energy known as "Distract ions" which renders argument into "Doesn't matter."

86 Obdicut  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:53:29pm

re: #63 Killgore Trout

There's some outrage brewing over the Newsweek cover. The only "Journalist" I recognized on the list is Mondowiess contributor Max Blumenthal. I suppose there some legitimate journalistic debate to be had over the cover but I haven't seen any yet.

Some things are so obvious they don't really require debate from reasonable people. Phrases like "Muslim rage", like "Jewish Rage" or "Black rage" or "Christian rage", are obviously stupid, inflammatory, and unjouranlistic-- referring to the actions of a small minority as though they're representative of the larger group.

Why do you recognize dudes from Mondoweiss and not the Atlantic, by the way?

87 jvic  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:53:52pm

re: #58 Obdicut

#55 jvic

Presumably a medical examination of the body can indicate whether or not Stevens was raped. Have the results of such an examination been reported?

Why would they look for something like that? Jesus.

It strikes me as due diligence and, IMHO, standard procedure to determine the cause of death and contributory factors.

Inflammatory rumors, foreign and domestic, should be rebutted with facts when possible.

88 Kragar  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:54:30pm

re: #87 jvic

It strikes me as due diligence and, IMHO, standard procedure to determine the cause of death and contributory factors.

Inflammatory rumors, foreign and domestic, should be rebutted with facts when possible.

The cause of death is obvious. Obama is a failure.
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89 Killgore Trout  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:55:20pm

US embassy in Lebanon is getting ready
US embassy in Lebanon destroying classified material

As a precaution amid rising anti-American protests, diplomats in the US Embassy in Beirut, Lebanon, have started destroying classified material.
...
A State Department status report obtained Monday by The Associated Press said the Beirut embassy had "reviewed its emergency procedures and is beginning to destroy classified holdings." It also said that local Lebanese employees were sent home early due to protests by the militant Shiite group Hezbollah over an anti-Muslim film produced in the U.S.

In Washington, a State Department official said there was no imminent threat to the heavily fortified Beirut embassy, which is about an hour away from where the nearest demonstration is planned.

90 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:55:51pm
91 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:56:28pm

re: #68 Velvet Elvis

I just tried posting a page twice but it didn't go through. Are there some new requirements or restrictions I might not be aware of?

What happened when you tried to post it?

92 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:56:29pm

re: #86 Obdicut

Some things are so obvious they don't really require debate from reasonable people. Phrases like "Muslim rage", like "Jewish Rage" or "Black rage" or "Christian rage", are obviously stupid, inflammatory, and unjouranlistic-- referring to the actions of a small minority as though they're representative of the larger group.

Why do you recognize dudes from Mondoweiss and not the Atlantic, by the way?

troll-a-rama

93 Mr. Crankypants  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:56:36pm

Interesting story on Hardball right now about what it takes someone to get a picture ID in PA so they can vote. Took a lady 4 hours to get through the process. Wonder how many people start that process and just quit?

94 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:57:03pm

I just posted a page to test - seems to be working fine.

95 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:57:23pm

I understand Arabic to some small degree. The people in the video absolutely are not cheering the attack, they are cheering the news that the ambassador is alive. The rest of the shouting is mostly related to a desperate attempt to find a car and get him to it for the trip to a hospital.

These people are not medics or policemen. They do not have the right equipment and they do not really know what to do in a chaotic and dangerous situation. They did what they could, and quickly, at some risk to themselves. It's a disgrace that they are vilified the way are at Breitbart and similar cesspools.

96 Velvet Elvis  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:57:32pm

re: #91 Charles Johnson

What happened when you tried to post it?

No error messages or anything. It just ate it after I hit "publish."

97 Gus  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:57:33pm
98 Kragar  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:58:02pm

re: #94 Charles Johnson

I just posted a page to test - seems to be working fine.

People having problems with a page is simply more proof that Obama's policies are a complete failure.

99 Velvet Elvis  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:58:04pm

re: #94 Charles Johnson

I just posted a page to test - seems to be working fine.

I'll try again.

100 Mr. Crankypants  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:00:14pm

re: #90 Stanley Sea

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You might want to add that the Obama admin was talking about the Romney administration declaring the 47% who pay no taxes as freeloaders, even though they make up a good part of Romney's support.

101 Eventual Carrion  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:00:14pm

re: #62 Kragar

Sarah Palin Claims Anti-Muslim Video Doesn’t Exist

Oh, go eat some moose shit Half-Term.

102 Daniel Ballard  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:01:30pm

Honestly I was quite upset at the violent level of outrage at the video that (maybe) added to the tension. I don't get acting violent over a printed book, or an insulting cartoon of Mohammed. Not my religion, not my culture so I do not understand at all.

But this? Now this is even worse. To smear rescuers as attackers is AFAIK far worse in moral terms. This incitement is a sin against ourselves, a step toward building hell on earth. Why fear theological hell when your angry/crazy neighbors wants to install a very real hell right in your zip code?

Now we have a very scary scenario. Now Muslim hating bigots have seen they can cause all kinds of death and mayhem for the cost of a small book burning rally, a video on youtube or just by printing insulting cartoons. Now the haters are empowered beyond our nightmares because of the willingness of certain Muslims to get violent over mere images. Now every bigot with a camera and internet can set a part of the world on fire with outrage, protected by our 1st amendment.

103 Killgore Trout  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:01:49pm

re: #97 Gus

The Muslims Are Coming

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Lol, Unfortunate screen grab as a preview for the video on a Muslim Comedy tour.The title plaque for the story "The Muslims are coming: Comedy tour", the news crawl underneath it says "Taliban claims responsibility for bombing"
/C'mon, ya gotta laugh

104 Eventual Carrion  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:03:13pm

re: #77 Kragar

Matt Barber: Liberals and Muslims both hate the One True God

Joe Pesci?

h/t George Carlin

105 Gus  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:03:24pm

re: #103 Killgore Trout

Lol, Unfortunate screen grab as a preview for the video on a Muslim Comedy tour.The title plaque for the story "The Muslims are coming: Comedy tour", the news crawl underneath it says "Taliban claims responsibility for bombing"
/C'mon, ya gotta laugh

Mmm Hmm.

106 Obdicut  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:05:49pm

re: #102 Daniel Ballard

I do think that a lot of these attacks were orchestrated, and are not purely a gestalt reaction. I think they provided cover for the true assholes to do their shitty work.

107 Gus  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:06:35pm

Derp.

108 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:07:02pm

re: #107 Gus

Wow...just wow LOL.

109 Killgore Trout  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:07:13pm

re: #102 Daniel Ballard

Now every bigot with a camera and internet can set a part of the world on fire with outrage, protected by our 1st amendment.

That's not new, it's not going to change and doesn't apply only to bigots. With the internet, social networking site, cell phones etc the Muslim world has become exposed to shit from all over the world. Silly drawings, stupid movies, crazy writings, by all sorts of people who don't know or care about the religious hangups of people on the other side of the planet. They will always have an excuse to be outraged no amount of religious sensitivity is going to change that.

110 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:08:20pm

re: #102 Daniel Ballard

Honestly I was quite upset at the violent level of outrage at the video that (maybe) added to the tension. I don't get acting violent over a printed book, or an insulting cartoon of Mohammed. Not my religion, not my culture so I do not understand at all.

But this? Now this is even worse. To smear rescuers as attackers is AFAIK far worse in moral terms. This incitement is a sin against ourselves, a step toward building hell on earth. Why fear theological hell when your angry/crazy neighbors wants to install a very real hell right in your zip code?

Now we have a very scary scenario. Now Muslim hating bigots have seen they can cause all kinds of death and mayhem for the cost of a small book burning rally, a video on youtube or just by printing insulting cartoons. Now the haters are empowered beyond our nightmares because of the willingness of certain Muslims to get violent over mere images. Now every bigot with a camera and internet can set a part of the world on fire with outrage, protected by our 1st amendment.

It sort of seems like that was the plan all along.
While I don't think violent behavior is justified, it's not like it's unheard of for pockets of Muslims to have nasty reactions to insults to their religion. What reason would anyone make a video like that, other than to spark a reaction?

111 gwangung  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:08:26pm

re: #107 Gus

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Derp.

Seems to me that this is the same impulse found in a lot of liberals who want Obama to kick ass, name names and act like a tough dude.

It's a red meat thing, and totally irrelevant to how it looks to the rest of the country and how it would actually work to run the country.

112 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:09:21pm

Because it insults all of us.

One derp on twitter said that Romney was describing the "hard core" Obama supporters. What a walk back. Romney supposedly wants to represent the entire US. Or not.

Remember when government was service to country?

113 makeitstop  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:09:23pm

Josh Marshall offers solid analysis, as usual:

Fringier folks in the GOP say things like this. Gary Bauer did just a couple days ago when he said Obama’s coalition was made up of welfare recipients and vote fraudsters. Bauer though was smart enough not to put a percentage to the charge. Doing so deprives Romney of a vital wiggle room. He’s not just talking about some few percentage points that make up the moocher vote. He’s talking about everybody who supports Obama.

So if some Democrat says that if you support Barack Obama, Romney is talking about you, that Democrat would be on steel-reinforced ground. Are you one of those 47% of the electorate that the polls consistently tell us support Barack Obama? He’s talking about you. It’s not an exaggeration.

So the country is divided in two: on one side, the self-sufficient and high-achieving Republicans and on the other side the losers who think government needs to take care of them.

This is the caricature of Mitt Romney, who was born on 3rd base (in Ann Richards memorable phrase), thinks he hit a triple and thinks the broad middle class who’ve relied on government for student loans or social security or anything else are losers who can’t get their act together and take responsibility for themselves. Only this tape says that caricature Mitt Romney is the real Mitt Romney.

Big problem.

114 Tigger2  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:09:46pm

re: #107 Gus

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Derp.

Yeah that will help, just get that man out there on the campaign trail and let everyone see just how much he hates most of the American people.

115 Kragar  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:09:47pm

re: #107 Gus

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Derp.

Meanwhile, James O'keefe is researching fake mustaches so he can infiltrate a pancake breakfast.

116 Gus  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:13:01pm
117 Tigger2  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:14:06pm

re: #116 Gus

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I get so sick of hearing that talking point.

118 Sionainn  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:15:02pm

re: #107 Gus

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Derp.

First time I actually agree with him. LOL.

119 Kragar  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:15:07pm

Take a moment to reflect...

Image: -Ep4248BCUSL36Kxc93nuQ2.gif

120 Kragar  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:15:32pm

re: #118 Sionainn

First time I actually agree with him. LOL.

IT'S A TRAP!

121 SpaceJesus  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:16:07pm

Freeman On The Land goes to court. Does not end well.


[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

122 Tigger2  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:16:28pm

re: #119 Kragar

Take a moment to reflect...

Image: -Ep4248BCUSL36Kxc93nuQ2.gif

LOL

123 PhillyPretzel  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:16:34pm

re: #119 Kragar

Cute cat

124 JamesWI  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:16:49pm

Weapons-grade DERP from Politifact, this time from the "Promise ratings":

Promise: Support Repeal of DOMA. Rating: Promise broken

From their post trying to justify this rating:

Obama took steps to nix it, but the law remains on the books.

Last year, the Justice Department announced it considered the law unconstitutional and would stop defending it in court. But that's far short of the repeal Obama promised.

Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Cali., also introduced a bill that would repeal the Defense of Marriage Act, and Obama and his attorney general backed it in public statements.

Feinstein's bill -- called the Respect for Marriage Act -- represents the most serious legislative attempt to fulfill Obama's campaign promise. It cleared the Senate Judiciary Committee on a tight 10-8 party-line vote in November 2011.

That's as far as it went. The Senate hasn't held hearings or votes and doesn't have anything scheduled for the rest of the year.

On the judiciary side, federal judges and a U.S. appellate court have declared a section of the Defense of Marriage Act unconstitutional, though it would take the weight of a Supreme Court ruling to strike down the law.

Also under Obama, the Justice Department filed a legal brief arguing for the repeal of the Defense of Marriage Act and asked the Supreme Court to hear two cases challenging the law's constitutionality.

The only other progress we've seen on the issue relates to Obama's ABC News interview in May, in which he gave his personal endorsement of gay marriage. Although this gesture did not trigger any policy change, it reinforced Obama's position to do away with the law.

In other words, Politifact says Obama promised to support the repeal of the law, and he......supported the repeal of the law. Therefore.......Promise broken!!! Wait, what?

(Note, they have other ratings that would actually make sense here, like "Stalled" or "In the works")

Another one to add to the file of Politifact saying "See wingnuts, we're not on Obama's side either!!!!!!"

125 Lidane  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:17:49pm

re: #113 makeitstop

Josh Marshall offers solid analysis, as usual:

And Markos sums it up neatly:

126 Kragar  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:19:29pm

One of my coworkers had to ask me if I was OK ...

Image: _CLaCWPpEUya0yAufxtj-w2.jpg

127 Gus  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:19:57pm
128 Kragar  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:21:24pm

re: #127 Gus

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Everyone knows the Bible comes before the Constitution
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129 gwangung  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:22:25pm

re: #128 Kragar

Everyone knows the Bible comes before the Constitution
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That's not snark to 27% of the country.

130 Majacita  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:22:52pm

I watched the tapes of Romney and what struck me was his tone of appeasement. Sort of, hey I'm doing the best I can, but see what I'm up against. The other tapes where he explains why he isn't calling Obama corrupt and why he isn't using Ann as a surrogate too often also back this up. This is a man who is being taken to the woodshed and is trying to talk his way out of it. He's begging for more cash when they're asking what has he done with the last few million they gave him. He sounds like my teenagers when they wasted their allowances.

131 dragonfire1981  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:23:18pm

re: #77 Kragar

Matt Barber: Liberals and Muslims both hate the One True God

Grrrr...IDIOTS!

NO ONE WANTS TO STOP YOU FROM WORSHIPPING GOD!

They just want to maintain the boundaries between church and state. Openly practicing your religion is fine. Trying to force it on others by means of legislation or regulations or force is NOT.

Now I might point out that merely attempting to teach someone about Christianity is not necessarily forcing it on them.

It amazes me how nasty some Christians can be. I don't ever remember Jesus being a jerk to anyone...

132 darthstar  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:25:00pm

Damn silver spoons...always getting stuck in some asshole.

133 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:25:00pm

re: #131 dragonfire1981

Grrrr...IDIOTS!

NO ONE WANTS TO STOP YOU FROM WORSHIPPING GOD!

They just want to maintain the boundaries between church and state. Openly practicing your religion is fine. Trying to force it on others by means of legislation or regulations or force is NOT.

Now I might point out that merely attempting to teach someone about Christianity is not necessarily forcing it on them.

It amazes me how nasty some Christians can be. I don't ever remember Jesus being a jerk to anyone...

Well, there were those entrepreneurial types at the Temple.......

134 engineer cat  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:25:25pm

There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. That that’s an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what…These are people who pay no income tax.

but i'm not voting in the imaginary universe

135 dragonfire1981  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:25:47pm

This is great. I wish I knew someone with a birthday soon so I could get them this. I saw a series of election themed birthday cards at Target yesterday including this great one of Romney.

The inside reads: "Merry Christmas"

:P

136 darthstar  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:26:49pm

re: #123 PhillyPretzel

Cute cat

It appears to be on the fence about something...(cue Romney ad about President Obama hating cats in 3..2..1..)

137 blueraven  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:28:39pm

re: #127 Gus

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I knew it was that idiot Eric Bolling before clicking. He is just as bad as Glenn Beck, but without the talent.

138 A Mom Anon  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:29:20pm

re: #77 Kragar

Nah,liberals and Muslims just hate Matt Barber. He probably gets the two mixed up,seeing as how he's so awesome and stuff.

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139 engineer cat  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:29:30pm

in the bush years you could always count on approx. 27% of poll respondents to give the most ignorant wingnut answer to the poll questions that even most republicans would answer reasonably

the 27% is back again today as approx. the percentage of respondents who approved of mitt's embassy attack statements last week

it's an irreducible and impenetrable lumpy black substance

140 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:30:05pm
141 blueraven  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:30:57pm

I am the 47%!

142 Gus  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:31:33pm

re: #137 blueraven

I knew it was that idiot Eric Bolling before clicking. He is as bad as Glenn Beck, but without the talent.

They're nuts.

143 Gus  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:32:31pm
144 blueraven  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:33:31pm

Reince Priebus trying to clean up Romney 47% comments on CNN. Fail by him and CNN.

145 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:34:24pm

re: #144 blueraven

Reince Priebus trying to clean up Romney 47% comments on CNN. Fail by him and CNN.

Did he use the term "hard core" Obama supporters?

146 Kragar  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:36:39pm

Romney only means poor folks, not the middle class. You know, those folks making 200-250 thousand dollars a year.

147 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:38:02pm

Devastating.

148 Destro  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:38:31pm

re: #10 Charles Johnson

On 9/12 I saw the right wing do this through Daniel Greenfield on frontpagemag.com.

Greenfield used a picture of the ambassador being dragged by Libyans out of the compound to claim it is a “Muslim mob” composed of an “equal number of beardos and non-beardos” positioning the body for torture/murder as they take photos.

To my analysis it clearly was a picture of a rescue attempt by the Libyans in the photo, who are smeared by Greenfield as his killers.

Here is my post the day after on 9/12:

Rightwinger smears as killers Libyans in photo who tried to rescue ambassador

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

149 aagcobb  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:40:52pm

re: #121 SpaceJesus

Freeman On The Land goes to court. Does not end well.

[Embedded content]


[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Thanks, that made my day.

150 blueraven  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:44:34pm

re: #145 We're All Welfare Queens Now

Did he use the term "hard core" Obama supporters?

No he tried to equivocate on the actual % by saying he didn't have the numbers at hand. He is an idiot.

151 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:46:12pm

re: #150 blueraven

No he tried to equivocate on the actual % by saying he didn't have the numbers at hand. He is an idiot.

LOL. Faltering in devastation.

Some RWinger on twitter tried to tie 47% as "hard core" thought that was maybe a talking point it was so ridic.

152 darthstar  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:47:13pm

No, he's not taking a leak. If it had been me, I would have been taking a leak, but I would have also been facing the crowd so I could listen to the President.

Image: 120917_obama_in_cinci_ds_605_v2.jpg

153 darthstar  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:48:08pm

re: #143 Gus

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He's a secret service guy and he's not peeing.

154 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:48:36pm

I've been sick so I'm not sure if you guys discussed The Food Stamp Army.

From The Washington Spectator:
Tom Fitton: The Obama administration has decided to deport only illegal aliens who have committed a crime, allowing millions to stay in the country because Obama needs “the illegal alien vote.” And: Obama is encouraging registration in state and federal offices because he wants to “register a food stamp army to vote for him.”

Great.

155 SpaceJesus  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:48:42pm

Mitt has responded to the secret video of him being an asshole

[Link: www.nationalreview.com...]

156 darthstar  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:50:14pm

re: #155 SpaceJesus

Mitt has responded to the secret video of him being an asshole

[Link: www.nationalreview.com...]

By 12 million jobs, does he mean the 12 million new jobs that are already projected in the next four years or is he talking about creating 12 million jobs on top of those? That's the question I'd love to hear a reporter ask him.

157 Gus  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:50:44pm
158 PhillyPretzel  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:51:02pm

It is only September and the mud is really flying. I do not want to think what it is going to be like in October let alone November.

159 Gus  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:51:15pm

Open for business!

[Link: romneys47percent.com...]

160 dragonfire1981  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:51:43pm

re: #154 Reverend Mother Ramallo

I've been sick so I'm not sure if you guys discussed The Food Stamp Army.

From The Washington Spectator:
Tom Fitton: The Obama administration has decided to deport only illegal aliens who have committed a crime, allowing millions to stay in the country because Obama needs “the illegal alien vote.” And: Obama is encouraging registration in state and federal offices because he wants to “register a food stamp army to vote for him.”

Umm...illegals can't vote. If they could, they wouldn't be illegals.

Heck I CAN'T vote and I'm here legally! (I'm a resident, not a citizen).

Great.

161 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:51:57pm

re: #155 SpaceJesus

Mitt has responded to the secret video of him being an asshole

[Link: www.nationalreview.com...]

And the response from the Obama campaign, way more to the point than the Romney camp BS attempt at walk back:

It’s hard to serve as president for all Americans when you’ve disdainfully written off half the nation.

Romney has no plan. Whatsoever.

162 dragonfire1981  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:52:25pm

"If elected President I plan to create 12 million jobs...in China!"

[/ mitt romney]

163 Kragar  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:52:38pm

Enormous Roman Mosaic Found Under Farmer's Field

A giant poolside mosaic featuring intricate geometric patterns has been unearthed in southern Turkey, revealing the far-reaching influence of the Roman Empire at its peak.

The mosaic, which once decorated the floor of a bath complex, abuts a 25-foot (7-meter)-long pool, which would have been open to the air, said Michael Hoff, a University of Nebraska, Lincoln art historian and director of the mosaic excavation. The find likely dates to the third or fourth century, Hoff said. The mosaic itself is an astonishing 1,600 square feet (149 square meters) — the size of a modest family home.

"To be honest, I was completely bowled over that the mosaic is that big," Hoff told LiveScience.

164 blueraven  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:52:45pm

re: #155 SpaceJesus

Mitt has responded to the secret video of him being an asshole

[Link: www.nationalreview.com...]

That is NOT a response to what he said on the video.

165 dragonfire1981  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:53:58pm

re: #164 blueraven

That is NOT a response to what he said on the video.

And I also got bombarded by an Anti-Obama pop up as soon as the site loaded (had to click to close it before I could read the article).

166 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:54:32pm

Must watch

167 Digital Display  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:55:17pm

re: #158 PhillyPretzel

It is only September and the mud is really flying. I do not want to think what it is going to be like in October let alone November.

It's going to be great. The debates will be classic and we will not even be able to keep up with the debates treads.

168 Gus  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:56:23pm

What a douche.

169 aagcobb  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:56:41pm

re: #160 dragonfire1981

You are forgetting the RWNJs believe that the illegals are pretending to be registered voters in order to vote.

170 aagcobb  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:58:48pm

re: #161 We're All Welfare Queens Now

And the response from the Obama campaign, way more to the point than the Romney camp BS attempt at walk back:

Romney has no plan. Whatsoever.

Of course he does. Cut taxes for the rich. Same plan the GOP always has.

171 Gus  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:59:00pm
172 wrenchwench  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:59:08pm

Ezra Klein did a series of tweets that encapsulates the 47% situation:

Brilliant.

173 JamesWI  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:59:16pm

New Rasmussen poll has Kaine +2 ahead of George Allen in Virginia. PPP polls have Warren +2 in MA and Baldwin +3 in Wisconsin.

Like I said earlier in the week, having Romney on the ballot is going to swing what should have been an easy majority for Republicans in the Senate, into a tie or slight edge for Dems.

Not only because more people will likely be voting for Obama (and thus are more likely to vote straight-ticket), but also the number of disillusioned Republicans that will stay home on Election Day will only increase as Romney digs himself deeper and deeper.

174 SpaceJesus  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:59:45pm

re: #164 blueraven

Welcome to Mitt Romney 101

175 jaunte  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 4:00:28pm
176 blueraven  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 4:00:45pm

re: #159 Gus

Open for business!

[Link: romneys47percent.com...]

According to whois - the site is registered to Matt Ortega

Matt Ortega: the man behind Mitt Romney memes

177 Kragar  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 4:01:10pm

TPM Editor’s Blog: Devastating

First, provenance. Our news team is currently reporting the story out. I don’t know the provenance of the tape. It’s apparently been bouncing around on the interwebs before getting published by Mother Jones. But I know David Corn. And he wouldn’t have posted it under his name if he weren’t pretty certain he had the authenticity of the tape nailed. So I’m assuming the tape is legit for the purposes of what I say below.

As for the tape itself, this is a fine distillation of the most rancid version of the libertarian conservative worldview. Democrats are moochers and losers who can’t get their act together and think the government owes them food, board, health care and basically whatever else they want. You don’t need to look long to find this version of reality on the web. But this isn’t some right-wing blogger. It’s the Republican candidate for President of the United States.
...
Fringier folks in the GOP say things like this. Gary Bauer did just a couple days ago when he said Obama’s coalition was made up of welfare recipients and vote fraudsters. Bauer though was smart enough not to put a percentage to the charge. Doing so deprives Romney of a vital wiggle room. He’s not just talking about some few percentage points that make up the moocher vote. He’s talking about everybody who supports Obama.

So if some Democrat says that if you support Barack Obama, Romney is talking about you, that Democrat would be on steel-reinforced ground. Are you one of those 47% of the electorate that the polls consistently tell us support Barack Obama? He’s talking about you. It’s not an exaggeration.

178 jaunte  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 4:04:09pm
179 Kragar  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 4:04:16pm

Video dramatization of 47% effect on a campaign:

180 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 4:06:03pm

re: #171 Gus

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Oh SNAP!

181 Kragar  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 4:06:50pm

Romney's response to video clips: "Those aren't the words I would have used... AW DANG!"

182 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 4:07:28pm

re: #172 wrenchwench

Ezra Klein did a series of tweets that encapsulates the 47% situation:

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Brilliant.

Ezra is a god. A financially wonky god, that I like.

183 recusancy  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 4:10:34pm

re: #176 blueraven

According to whois - the site is registered to Matt Ortega

Matt Ortega: the man behind Mitt Romney memes

Or you could have just clicked/looked at the follow me on twitter link which has his name on it.

184 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 4:14:59pm

re: #176 blueraven

According to whois - the site is registered to Matt Ortega

Matt Ortega: the man behind Mitt Romney memes

hahaha.

185 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 4:15:53pm
186 Decatur Deb  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 4:17:59pm

re: #152 darthstar

No, he's not taking a leak. If it had been me, I would have been taking a leak, but I would have also been facing the crowd so I could listen to the President.

Image: 120917_obama_in_cinci_ds_605_v2.jpg

I don't think anybody is making unauthorized trips to any grassy knolls these days.

187 PhillyPretzel  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 4:21:34pm

re: #186 Decatur Deb

From my view it looks like he is wearing some sort of shoulder strap. It might be a camera.

188 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 4:23:52pm

re: #186 Decatur Deb

I don't think anybody is making unauthorized trips to any grassy knolls these days.

seriously.

189 Lidane  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 4:25:10pm

re: #159 Gus

Open for business!

[Link: romneys47percent.com...]

And on Twitter:

47% Mitt

190 Decatur Deb  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 4:30:14pm

re: #189 Lidane

And on Twitter:

47% Mitt

David Frum in that tweet sequence:

davidfrum ‏@davidfrum

If you're not running for president of all the country, you won't be elected president of any of it.

(It's really him, he's plugging his book in the avatar.)

191 Decatur Deb  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 4:31:49pm

re: #159 Gus

Open for business!

[Link: romneys47percent.com...]

Hey--lay off Rafalca. She's done more in service to the country than Mitt or any of his sons.

192 jvic  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 4:36:22pm

1. How does the 47% remark square up with this?--

“I’m in this race because I care about Americans,” Romney told CNN’s Soledad O’Brien this morning after his resounding victory in Florida on Tuesday. “I’m not concerned about the very poor. We have a safety net there. If it needs repair, I’ll fix it.”

“I’m not concerned about the very rich, they’re doing just fine. I’m concerned about the very heart of the America, the 90, 95 percent of Americans who right now are struggling and I’ll continue to take that message across the nation.

2. Afaik Romney's 47% remarks did not mention the military-industrial complex, the prison-industrial complex, the security-industrial complex, and the agriculture-industrial complex.

3. I've warned conservatives that they underestimate Obama's chances, but until recently it didn't cross my mind that Romney might manage to lose more decisively than McCain did.

193 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 4:38:28pm

re: #104 RayFerd

Joe Pesci?

h/t George Carlin

Nisroch.

194 Blizard  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 5:14:33pm

#IAmThe47Percent now trending...


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