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1 MittDoesNotCompute  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:12:11pm

Schadenfreude is always in-season...and I love the taste.

2 JRCMYP  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:12:47pm

Ermeahgerd! Can you saw AWKWARD?

3 Kragar  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:14:34pm

The middle class: making 200-250k a year, while companies routinely layoff and cut employees so they can pay off millionaire investors, and get their unions busted by the GOP if they dare ask for more.

You can fuck right off Mitt.

4 Targetpractice  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:14:50pm

re: #2 JRCMYP

Ermeahgerd! Can you saw AWKWARD?

Seemed more like arrogant to me. What he conveyed to me was annoyance that he even had to be there, to answer questions about this video, when he thinks it's not a big deal. He really does not feel he has to explain himself to us, that we're actually wrong to question him or his beliefs.

5 SpaceJesus  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:14:51pm

obama camp just posted this

Image: r9kAF.jpg

6 JRCMYP  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:15:37pm

re: #4 Targetpractice

Seemed more like arrogant to me. What he conveyed to me was annoyance that he even had to be there, to answer questions about this video, when he thinks it's not a big deal. He really does not feel he has to explain himself to us, that we're actually wrong to question him or his beliefs.

You are exactly right.

7 Talking Point Detective  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:16:08pm

I just realized the positive side of the 47% comment.

Since 47% of the American public are freeloaders that don't pay taxes and would never vote for Romney, that means that Obama only needs to get 8% of the taxpayers (or another 4% of the entire citizenry) to vote for him and he wins the popular vote.

No way that doesn't happen - so by Romney's own logic he is done.

8 Lidane  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:16:29pm

HAHAHAHAHA.... oh man. Some folks are delusional:

9 Kragar  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:17:23pm

After 3 decades of GOP guidance, the economy cratered, but we're still supposed to believe in it.

After 4 years of GOP obstruction, Mitt complains Obama's plan hasn't worked.

10 Mocking Jay  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:17:28pm

re: #5 SpaceJesus

obama camp just posted this

Image: r9kAF.jpg

One of them sounds presidential...

11 JRCMYP  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:17:31pm

I think he might go home tonight and cry. Seriously.

12 Talking Point Detective  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:17:37pm

What's truly amazing is that Republicans call Obama the "most divisive" president in history even as they denigrate 47% of the country's population.

Obviously, logic is not object for these folks.

13 Targetpractice  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:18:20pm

re: #12 Talking Point Detective

What's truly amazing is that Republicans call Obama the "most divisive" president in history even as they denigrate 47% of the country's population.

Obviously, logic is not object for these folks.

That's because they're all convinced that they either A) belong to the 53% or B) are only in the 47% because Obama failed them.

14 R.M, Ramallo  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:18:23pm

Was he trying to convince share holders that this is just a temporary setback and the bottom didn't just fall out?

15 jaunte  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:18:52pm
16 Pawn of the Oppressor  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:19:05pm

re: #1 Gert Fröbe

Schadenfreude is always in-season...and I love the taste.

I love the smell of GOP collapse in the morning.

17 Gus  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:19:09pm

The Tweet:

18 Mocking Jay  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:19:25pm

re: #14 Reverend Mother Ramallo

Hey, you put up a new drawing! With creepy Dune eyes!

19 palomino  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:19:35pm

re: #7 Talking Point Detective

I just realized the positive side of the 47% comment.

Since 47% of the American public are freeloaders that don't pay taxes and would never vote for Romney, that means that Obama only needs to get 8% of the taxpayers (or another 4% of the entire citizenry) to vote for him and he wins the popular vote.

No way that doesn't happen - so by Romney's own logic he is done.

Unfortunately a lot of Repubs and right-leaning indies have grown comfortable voting against their own economic interests. Then again, it would only take a percent or two of these voters to switch to Obama and strengthen his reelection chances considerably.

20 Kragar  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:19:49pm

"Those aren't the words I would use."

21 JamesWI  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:20:17pm

lulz. Yeah, it's Obama's poll numbers that have been tanking since the embassy attacks. And it's Obama's campaign staff that has been fighting in-house.

22 freetoken  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:20:23pm

Wow, that was one garbled response.

All Mitt had to say, if he had a conscious, is that he was sorry that he used some language that in retrospect sounds too harsh.

That would have taken all of, what, 30 seconds?

23 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:20:30pm

I saw his motorcade going down the 405. Wish I had been closer to flip em off.

24 JRCMYP  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:20:51pm

re: #20 Kragar

"Those aren't the words I would use."

[Embedded content]

"If I had to say it again, I wouldn't be such a dick and I'd have paid someone to tell me what to say so you would give me money or a vote."

25 Lidane  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:21:18pm
26 jaunte  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:21:19pm
27 Mocking Jay  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:21:23pm

re: #22 freetoken

Wow, that was one garbled response.

All Mitt had to say, if he had a conscious, is that he was sorry that he used some language that in retrospect sounds too harsh.

That would have taken all of, what, 30 seconds?

What part of NO APOLOGIES do you not get?!?!?!?

28 JRCMYP  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:21:39pm

re: #22 freetoken

Wow, that was one garbled response.

All Mitt had to say, if he had a conscious, is that he was sorry that he used some language that in retrospect sounds too harsh.

That would have taken all of, what, 30 seconds?

He did say that. It doesn't make a difference because he said what he thought, not what sounded "less harsh".

29 erik_t  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:21:44pm

re: #21 JamesWI

[Embedded content]

lulz. Yeah, it's Obama's poll numbers that have been tanking since the embassy attacks. And it's Obama's campaign staff that has been fighting in-house.

Unhinged.

(I really, really like that word)

30 Lidane  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:22:14pm

Heh:

31 freetoken  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:22:22pm

re: #17 Gus

Such a night and day comparison between a campaign that is in shambles versus one which is well run and on top of everything.

32 Sionainn  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:22:23pm

re: #9 Kragar

After 3 decades of GOP guidance, the economy cratered, but we're still supposed to believe in it.

After 4 years of GOP obstruction, Mitt complains Obama's plan hasn't worked.

Didn't Romney also claim that he would need 8 years to fix things?

33 Mocking Jay  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:22:23pm
34 R.M, Ramallo  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:22:41pm

re: #18 Mocking Jay

Hey, you put up a new drawing! With creepy Dune eyes!

I wanted the eyes to go with my new persona !
:)

35 bratwurst  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:22:41pm

How DARE people believe they are entitled to health care, food and housing? Couldn't they just get sick and starve under a bridge somewhere?

36 Targetpractice  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:23:21pm

And the really mind-bending thing? He's trying to argue that these remarks will "make sense" when put in context. What could he have said, before or after the bit shown so far, that would make accusing 47% of the American population of being freeloaders who can't take responsibility for themselves sound good?

37 erik_t  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:23:25pm

re: #35 bratwurst

How DARE people believe they are entitled to health care, food and housing? Couldn't they just get sick and starve under a bridge somewhere?

What, together?

GET BEHIND ME, SATAN SOCIALIST.

38 DisturbedEma  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:23:35pm

Did he leave mid question??? or was that lag. . smh. . .

39 Varek Raith  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:24:00pm

re: #35 bratwurst

How DARE people believe they are entitled to health care, food and housing? Couldn't they just get sick and starve under a bridge somewhere?

Romney needs to fire his How to be an Evil Overlord adviser.

40 recusancy  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:24:16pm

re: #35 bratwurst

How DARE people believe they are entitled to health care, food and housing? Couldn't they just get sick and starve under a bridge somewhere?

Nope. Under a bridge would be government provided shelter.

41 DisturbedEma  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:24:17pm

re: #35 bratwurst

now now- let them eat cake is a time honored tradition. . .////

42 brennant  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:24:24pm

Is it possible for this guy not to step in his own shit each week?

43 Lidane  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:24:27pm
44 HappyWarrior  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:24:31pm

Must be easy when you had Daddy helping you out to lecture others on fiscal responsibility huh Mitt.

45 Kragar  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:24:42pm

re: #33 Mocking Jay

[Embedded content]

46 jaunte  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:24:49pm

re: #42 brennant

He has people clearing it away.

47 Talking Point Detective  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:25:00pm

re: #19 palomino

Unfortunately a lot of Repubs and right-leaning indies have grown comfortable voting against their own economic interests. Then again, it would only take a percent or two of these voters to switch to Obama and strengthen his reelection chances considerably.

In point of fact, a sizable chunk of the 47% do vote Republican. Obviously, Romney's claim is absurd. If what he said were true, he would be getting something like, maybe, 30%? of the popular vote (the 47% who "don't pay taxes" plus some 50% of the other 53%?).

Perhaps some small % of the 47% that typically vote Republican will hear about his disgustingly elitist comments and switch over. There is absolutely no way that if these comments are widely disseminated, it can do anything but hurt his chances.

48 elizajane  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:25:05pm

Keep it going Mitt! At least you have a campaign platform now!

49 Lidane  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:25:25pm

Ouch:

50 Petero1818  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:25:47pm

re: #46 jaunte

He has people clearing it away.

Oh Piss Boy.....

51 Mocking Jay  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:26:12pm

re: #36 Targetpractice

And the really mind-bending thing? He's trying to argue that these remarks will "make sense" when put in context. What could he have said, before or after the bit shown so far, that would make accusing 47% of the American population of being freeloaders who can't take responsibility for themselves sound good?

Eh, only way this can't hurt him is if they were putting on a play.

52 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:26:35pm

Again, Romney is disparaging his own supporters, seniors and people who take advantage of the per child tax credit, mortgage interest payment credit, people predominately living off of investment income and who take deductions for capital losses.

What's really fucked up though is that here's a guy who's running to be able to submit and sign off on changes to the tax code who refuses to release his own tax returns. He's calling almost half the country victims because they're taking advantage of the same elements in the tax code he's taken advantage of, to offset their tax obligations entirely.

I pay all the taxes that are legally required and not a dollar more. I don’t think you want someone as the candidate for president who pays more taxes than he owes.

How hypocritical is this? He's saying nearly half the tax filers in the country view themselves as "victims" because they have the same operative strategy towards paying taxes that he does.

53 Mich-again  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:26:40pm

Mitt was just reenacting a scene from a movie with Harris from the Post..

54 aagcobb  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:26:43pm

I just watched the opening SNL skit on Hulu, and boy, did they nail it.

55 b_sharp  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:26:46pm

re: #34 Reverend Mother Ramallo

I wanted the eyes to go with my new persona !
:)

Several forums ago I used Shai Hulud as my nic.

56 tnguitarist  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:26:57pm

re: #8 Lidane

HAHAHAHAHA.... oh man. Some folks are delusional:

[Embedded content]

If Romney wins California, I'll eat my jorts.

57 freetoken  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:26:59pm

One thing about this gaffe reveal compared to other political noise is that it really does touch on something important to the life of this country: the huge disparity between those at the bottom of our society and those at the top.

58 Kragar  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:27:00pm

re: #49 Lidane

Ouch:

[Embedded content]

Its like those guys who said they worked 80 hours a week in an office job complaining about OWS and saying they were part of the 1%.

59 Gus  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:27:14pm

re: #21 JamesWI

[Embedded content]

lulz. Yeah, it's Obama's poll numbers that have been tanking since the embassy attacks. And it's Obama's campaign staff that has been fighting in-house.

She's such a fucking [deleted]. Right, October surprise. Laugh. Out. Fucking. Loud.

Not even worth commenting on about what in the ME to these Un-American assholes. America was attacked on 9/11/12. We, all of us, share in the sorrow and loss of 4 of our citizens in a continuing war on terror.

60 Lidane  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:27:28pm
61 Sionainn  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:27:29pm

re: #36 Targetpractice

And the really mind-bending thing? He's trying to argue that these remarks will "make sense" when put in context. What could he have said, before or after the bit shown so far, that would make accusing 47% of the American population of being freeloaders who can't take responsibility for themselves sound good?

I hope that Mother Jones puts out the question and his answer just like he asked. I'm willing to bet $10,000 that it doesn't show him in any better light.

62 HappyWarrior  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:28:13pm

re: #60 Lidane

[Embedded content]

"They should have chosen a more productive career." Mitt logic//

63 Petero1818  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:28:15pm

re: #52 goddamnedfrank

Again, Romney is disparaging his own supporters, seniors and people who take advantage of the per child tax credit, mortgage interest payment credit, people predominately living off of investment income and who take deductions for capital losses.

What's really fucked up though is that here's a guy who's running to be able to submit and sign off on changes to the tax code who refuses to release his own tax returns. He's calling almost half the country victims because they're taking advantage of the same elements in the tax code he's taken advantage of, to offset their tax obligations entirely.

How hypocritical is this? He's saying nearly half the tax filers in the country view themselves as "victims" because they have the same operative strategy towards paying taxes that he does.

Most of whom are using provisions put in place by Republicans as a quid pro quo for reducing taxes for those who make much more.

64 Gus  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:28:33pm

Shorter Mitt Romney.

"I don't care about half of America."

65 Kragar  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:29:04pm

re: #60 Lidane

[Embedded content]

They should have borrowed $20k from their parents or just have done missionary work in France instead.

66 Amory Blaine  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:29:11pm

October come early this year?

67 Mattand  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:29:22pm

re: #36 Targetpractice

And the really mind-bending thing? He's trying to argue that these remarks will "make sense" when put in context. What could he have said, before or after the bit shown so far, that would make accusing 47% of the American population of being freeloaders who can't take responsibility for themselves sound good?

re: #61 Sionainn

I hope that Mother Jones puts out the question and his answer just like he asked. I'm willing to bet $10,000 that it doesn't show him in any better light.

I was thinking that while watching the clips. With those quotes, it's really hard to imagine a context where Romney comes out looking good.

68 kirkspencer  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:29:27pm

re: #60 Lidane

[Embedded content]

Yes. When I was in, every married E5 or less was getting something - WIC, food stamps, etc. But that's a different rant, something about paying people an honest wage.

69 JRCMYP  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:29:29pm

re: #64 Gus

Shorter Mitt Romney.

"I don't care about half of America."

[Embedded content]

Like I said below...Mitt, you aren't running for king, you're running for public servant in chief.

He's screwed.

70 HappyWarrior  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:29:54pm

He really is coming off more and more off as the rich jerk stereotype as this campaign goes on.

71 Targetpractice  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:30:19pm

re: #64 Gus

Shorter Mitt Romney.

"I don't care about half of America."

[Embedded content]

So, is Frum 'bout reached the point where he gives up on the GOP? Or is he planning to climb up on the ledge with the rest of them?

72 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:30:27pm

Where those 47% really live:

Image: ZZ0DB7BBDC.jpg

73 Mich-again  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:30:31pm

What about the families with a lot of kids who rack up tax deductions just so they can avoid paying income taxes.. /

74 Mocking Jay  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:30:36pm

Damn. Loesch just put out 5 tweets in as many minutes. #thisiswhatlosingitlookslike

75 Lidane  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:30:38pm

re: #58 Kragar

Its like those guys who said they worked 80 hours a week in an office job complaining about OWS and saying they were part of the 1%.

I laughed at those guys. Nobody in the 1% works 80 hours a week in an office job. The 1% are the CEOs earning millions for outsourcing those 80 hour a week jobs to call centers in India.

76 tnguitarist  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:31:14pm

It's like watching a cannibal eat himself.

77 HappyWarrior  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:31:17pm

re: #72 Charles Johnson

Where those 47% really live:

Image: ZZ0DB7BBDC.jpg

Yep and Mitt's party gets them to support them by playing to their bigotries.

78 jaunte  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:31:25pm

re: #72 Charles Johnson

Where those 47% really live:

Image: ZZ0DB7BBDC.jpg

Red States FTW.

79 tnguitarist  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:31:37pm

re: #71 Targetpractice

So, is Frum 'bout reached the point where he gives up on the GOP? Or is he planning to climb up on the ledge with the rest of them?

He's already admitted he's voting Romney.

80 Mich-again  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:31:54pm

re: #72 Charles Johnson

Where those 47% really live:

Image: ZZ0DB7BBDC.jpg

devastating..

81 Petero1818  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:32:04pm

re: #72 Charles Johnson

Yes but they live in the ...um...urban centers of those states.....they are urban people....you know what I am saying...nudge nudge wink wink.//

82 Gus  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:32:10pm

re: #76 tnguitarist

It's like watching a cannibal eat himself.

Hey. LTNS.

83 tnguitarist  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:32:58pm

re: #82 Gus

Hey. LTNS.

I lurk.

84 Lidane  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:33:05pm

re: #72 Charles Johnson

Where those 47% really live:

Image: ZZ0DB7BBDC.jpg

Image: Voting Republican.jpg

85 HappyWarrior  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:33:21pm

Honestly I would love to see Mitt or one of his wealthy fundraisers spend one day in the life of the less well off in this country. It's really easy to pass judgment on other people when you're like Mitt and haven't had to live with any real hardship in your life. It's fine that Mitt grew up wealthy. Hell some people grow up that wealthy and develop with it a genuine compassion and empathy for those not as well off them. Mitt meanwhile seems to disdain those less well off than him.

86 Gus  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:33:48pm
87 Mich-again  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:34:08pm

re: #75 Lidane

I laughed at those guys. Nobody in the 1% works 80 hours a week in an office job. The 1% are the CEOs earning millions for outsourcing those 80 hour a week jobs to call centers in India.

The 1% I know work crazy long hours, too much for it to be worth it.

88 Targetpractice  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:34:32pm

re: #79 tnguitarist

He's already admitted he's voting Romney.

The "moderates" are not gonna be able to look themselves in the mirror come Election Day +1.

89 MittDoesNotCompute  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:34:35pm

re: #44 HappyWarrior

Must be easy when you had Daddy helping you out to lecture others on fiscal responsibility huh Mitt.

From what i understand, Mitt is nothing like his father.

At least his father had some class.

90 Gus  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:34:53pm

re: #72 Charles Johnson

Where those 47% really live:

Image: ZZ0DB7BBDC.jpg

I knew it. Before I was just going to mention that the 47 percent resides largely in former Confederate states.

91 Lidane  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:35:20pm

Poor Joe. He has to hang on to some kind of hope, I guess:

Lucky for us, reckless VP choices have more of an effect.

92 Targetpractice  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:35:35pm

re: #89 Gert Fröbe

From what i understand, Mitt is nothing like his father.

At least his father had some class.

His daddy was an experienced shark, he knew how to play the game to win.

Willard was born in captivity and has never had to work for a meal in his life.

93 HappyWarrior  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:35:36pm

re: #89 Gert Fröbe

From what i understand, Mitt is nothing like his father.

At least his father had some class.

Yeah I'm knocking George Romney. Just pointing out that George Romney's success as a manufacturer of automobiles meant that Mitt hasn't really experienced any financial hardship in his life. I actually respect his father a bit from what I've learned about him.

94 dragonath  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:35:40pm

It's astounding that the Republicans believe their messaging so much that they're doubling down on what was at best a insidery meme from the wingnutosphere.

95 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:36:03pm

The wingnuts are going to be beside themselves with rage tomorrow. Batten down the hatches.

96 jaunte  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:36:03pm

David Brooks:

"...The final thing the comment suggests is that Romney knows nothing about ambition and motivation. The formula he sketches is this: People who are forced to make it on their own have drive. People who receive benefits have dependency.

But, of course, no middle-class parent acts as if this is true. Middle-class parents don’t deprive their children of benefits so they can learn to struggle on their own. They shower benefits on their children to give them more opportunities — so they can play travel sports, go on foreign trips and develop more skills.

People are motivated when they feel competent. They are motivated when they have more opportunities. Ambition is fired by possibility, not by deprivation, as a tour through the world’s poorest regions makes clear."
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

97 Amory Blaine  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:36:25pm

This is the heart of their philosophy. Not fringe.

98 Mich-again  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:36:57pm

The 47% are heavily weighted to southern Red States because that is the heart of the anti-Union movement.

99 Lidane  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:37:04pm
100 Mr. Crankypants  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:37:20pm

re: #95 Charles Johnson

The wingnuts are going to be beside themselves with rage tomorrow. Batten down the hatches.

Waaaaaaahhhh!!! The press reported what he said verbatim! No
Fair!

101 Robert O.  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:38:37pm

September 17 may go down as the day when Mitt Romney officially lost the election.

What will his campaign slogan be now?

Let them eat Weapons of Mass Destruction?
[How do you say that in French?]

102 Targetpractice  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:38:40pm

re: #95 Charles Johnson

The wingnuts are going to be beside themselves with rage tomorrow. Batten down the hatches.

They seem to have latched onto the "bitter clingers" line with all their might, thinking that's what's gonna help them weather this storm.

Reminds me Titanic, watching the rich fops tell themselves that this was a minor event, the ship could not sink, and they would not dream of leaving the luxury to get up on deck and into a life vest.

103 JamesWI  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:38:41pm

Yep. They really want to make themselves irrelevant tonight:

Wow.....

104 Interesting Times  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:38:51pm
105 Petero1818  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:39:17pm

Boy this should be an easy pivot for Obama in a debate.

106 Lidane  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:39:45pm

re: #103 JamesWI

Yeah, she's losing it. It's hilarious.

107 Obdicut  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:39:58pm

re: #103 JamesWI

Is she really coming out against education as a thing that the government should provide? Really?

108 R.M, Ramallo  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:39:58pm

re: #85 HappyWarrior

Honestly I would love to see Mitt or one of his wealthy fundraisers spend one day in the life of the less well off in this country. It's really easy to pass judgment on other people when you're like Mitt and haven't had to live with any real hardship in your life. It's fine that Mitt grew up wealthy. Hell some people grow up that wealthy and develop with it a genuine compassion and empathy for those not as well off them. Mitt meanwhile seems to disdain those less well off than him.

After crying for two weeks straight, they would think about giving away their worldly possessions to become monks.
That would wear off quickly, so they would cash in some stocks and spend a month at an exclusive spa to deep-clean the working-class cooties from their pores.
Not all, but many.

109 Targetpractice  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:40:28pm

re: #103 JamesWI

Yep. They really want to make themselves irrelevant tonight:

[Embedded content]

Wow.....

Got yourselves a real winner there, CNN.

110 Mr. Crankypants  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:40:30pm

re: #105 Petero1818

Boy this should be an easy pivot for Obama in a debate.

I think Romney just proactively lost the debates over domestic and foreign policy this week.

111 makeitstop  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:41:00pm

Oh, to be a fly on the wall at Romney HQ tonight.

112 Amory Blaine  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:41:05pm

re: #103 JamesWI

Yep. They really want to make themselves irrelevant tonight:

[Embedded content]

Wow.....

Yes. Let the hate flow through you...

113 R.M, Ramallo  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:41:08pm

re: #91 Lidane

Poor Joe. He has to hang on to some kind of hope, I guess:

[Embedded content]

Lucky for us, reckless VP choices have more of an effect.

Joe needs to learn the difference between reckless and fucked up.

114 Mocking Jay  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:41:12pm

Okay, this is really worth your time. I mean it.

[Link: www.mobypicture.com...]

115 Mr. Crankypants  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:41:21pm

re: #109 Targetpractice

Got yourselves a real winner there, CNN.

MSNBC has S.E Cupp, who is no less obnoxious.

116 HappyWarrior  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:41:26pm

re: #111 makeitstop

Oh, to be a fly on the wall at Romney HQ tonight.

I can't wait for the tell all book.

117 Obdicut  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:41:35pm

re: #110 PT Barnum

I think Romney's biggest problem in the debates is he thinks he deserves the presidency, and he acts like it.

118 HappyWarrior  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:42:36pm

re: #117 Obdicut

I think Romney's biggest problem in the debates is he thinks he deserves the presidency, and he acts like it.

Oh man, you nailed it. This can't be updinged enough. Yes, he thinks the presidency is something that should be just given to him because he's Willard Mitt Romney and that's why. He actually and forgive me for bringing up an Adam Sandler movie but he reminds me of Shooter McGavin.

119 jaunte  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:43:00pm

re: #111 makeitstop

Oh, to be a fly on the wall at Romney HQ tonight.

All the flies are out tonight buying better cameras and mics.

120 Amory Blaine  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:43:35pm

Where there's shit, there's flies.

121 Mr. Crankypants  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:43:37pm

re: #117 Obdicut

I think Romney's biggest problem in the debates is he thinks he deserves the presidency, and he acts like it.

Didn't Hillary lose the 2008 Democratic Primary for the exact same reason?

122 Gus  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:43:54pm
123 tnguitarist  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:43:55pm

Mitt thinks he is next in line Always has.

124 Gus  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:44:05pm

Ah. There we go.

125 Mr. Crankypants  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:44:10pm

re: #120 Amory Blaine

Where there's shit, there's flies.

Eat Shit and Die, 40,000,000,000 flies can't be wrong.

126 Lidane  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:44:16pm
127 Mocking Jay  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:44:17pm

re: #121 PT Barnum

Didn't Hillary lose the 2008 Democratic Primary for the exact same reason?

Maybe. But at this point, I think she does deserve it.

128 Gus  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:45:41pm

Even shorter Mitt Romney.

"Fuck the 47%."

129 JamesWI  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:45:46pm
130 Amory Blaine  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:46:07pm

Why does Mitt hate (half) Amercia?

131 Lidane  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:46:12pm

re: #111 makeitstop

Oh, to be a fly on the wall at Romney HQ tonight.

His main campaign staff are washing down their heartburn medication with whiskey.

All the staff workers that aren't complete wingnut tools are currently trolling through LinkedIn and are sending out resumes and cover letters so they can salvage their careers.

132 HappyWarrior  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:46:13pm

re: #121 PT Barnum

Didn't Hillary lose the 2008 Democratic Primary for the exact same reason?

Yes, and quite frankly it was a huge turnoff but Hillary to her credit is a better leader than Romney is.

133 moderatelyradicalliberal  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:47:27pm

Is FOX still ignoring the story?

134 makeitstop  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:47:44pm
“At a fundraiser you have people say, ‘Governor how are you going to win this?’ And so I respond, ‘Well, the president has his group, I have my group I want to keep my team strong and motivated and I want to get those people in the middle,’” Romney said. “That’s something which fundraising people who are parting with their monies are very interested in knowing — can you win or not and that’s what this was addressing.”

Man, he really is one oblivious sonofabitch.

135 Amory Blaine  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:47:49pm

What story?

136 Targetpractice  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:47:51pm

re: #131 Lidane

His main campaign staff are washing down their heartburn medication with whiskey.

All the staff workers that aren't complete wingnut tools are currently trolling through LinkedIn and are sending out resumes and cover letters so they can salvage their careers.

What do you figure the over/under is on when the rats begin fleeing the sinking ship?

137 Mr. Crankypants  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:48:12pm

re: #132 HappyWarrior

Yes, and quite frankly it was a huge turnoff but Hillary to her credit is a better leader than Romney is.

I would love to see her run and win in 2016 and get reelected in 2020. The sound of wingnut anyeurisms popping would be like cheap champagne, but way more tasty.

138 tnguitarist  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:48:34pm

For people who always preach "personal responsibility", Republicans sure never take responsibility for their own remarks.

139 Lidane  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:48:41pm

Heh:

140 HappyWarrior  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:49:02pm

re: #137 PT Barnum

I would love to see her run and win in 2016 and get reelected in 2020. The sound of wingnut anyeurisms popping would be like cheap champagne, but way more tasty.

I still would prefer some fresh blood but if it's her and Christie going at it, well that's an easy choice for me. No disrespect to her.

141 Gus  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:49:18pm
142 Lidane  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:49:39pm

re: #136 Targetpractice

What do you figure the over/under is on when the rats begin fleeing the sinking ship?

I think we'll know after the first debate. If Mittens gets destroyed, expect low level staffers to start jumping ship.

143 HappyWarrior  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:49:43pm

re: #138 tnguitarist

For people who always preach "personal responsibility", Republicans sure never take responsibility for their own remarks.

You noticed that too huh. "Personal responsibility" is only for poor people and minorities not rich snobs like Mitt.

144 Mr. Crankypants  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:49:56pm

re: #140 HappyWarrior

I still would prefer some fresh blood but if it's her and Christie going at it, well that's an easy choice for me. No disrespect to her.

Christie is nothing but an oversized bully peddling the same crap the rest of the GOP peddles.

145 JamesWI  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:50:56pm
146 HappyWarrior  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:51:02pm

re: #144 PT Barnum

Christie is nothing but an oversized bully peddling the same crap the rest of the GOP peddles.

I know. I'm saying, I'd vote for Hillary over him in spite of my preference for some new blood. She's been an excellent Secretary of State though. I was critical of Obama's choice in 2009 but I like the pick a lot now.

147 dragonath  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:51:14pm

re: #141 Gus

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GO TEAM WOOOO

148 Gus  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:52:07pm

"ni-CLANG!"

John O’Sullivan

149 HappyWarrior  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:52:11pm

This really is the last thing he needed after the idiotic remarks he made after what happened in Libya and Egypt.

150 freetoken  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:52:14pm

re: #144 PT Barnum

Christie is nothing but an oversized bully peddling the same crap the rest of the GOP peddles.

And he's on the campaign trail for none other than Rep. Steve King (IA).

Yeah, that Steve King.

151 Mr. Crankypants  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:52:24pm

re: #146 HappyWarrior

I know. I'm saying, I'd vote for Hillary over him in spite of my preference for some new blood. She's been an excellent Secretary of State though. I was critical of Obama's choice in 2009 but I like the pick a lot now.

I think Hillary's stated philosophy has been "bloom where you're planted." She showed a lot of class after she lost the primary and think she would make a great first female president.

152 Mocking Jay  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:53:06pm
153 Mr. Crankypants  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:53:16pm

re: #150 freetoken

And he's on the campaign trail for none other than Rep. Steve King (IA).

Yeah, that Steve King.

I live in Steve King's district. I'm ashamed to even acknowledge he and I live in the same state.

154 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:53:17pm

re: #141 Gus

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Oh man. I really hope Romney takes the advice of the loony wingnut contingent and doubles down.

155 HappyWarrior  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:53:22pm

re: #151 PT Barnum

I think Hillary's stated philosophy has been "bloom where you're planted." She showed a lot of class after she lost the primary and think she would make a great first female president.

I agree. Anyhow, I'm sure the Democrats will pick a fine successor for Obama as the party's standard bearer. Got some good ones in the stable.

156 Gus  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:53:59pm

re: #154 Charles Johnson

Oh man. I really hope Romney takes the advice of the loony wingnut contingent and doubles down.

Image: derbyshire-weissberg-o__sull.jpg

John Derbyshire's probably happy about it too.

157 Lidane  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:54:10pm

re: #149 HappyWarrior

This really is the last thing he needed after the idiotic remarks he made after what happened in Libya and Egypt.

If you read the wingnut blogs, Mittens is secretly leading in the polls because of his comments about Libya and Egypt, and these 47% comments will put him over the edge into the White House.

Delusions never looked so hilarious.

158 HappyWarrior  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:54:13pm

re: #153 PT Barnum

I live in Steve King's district. I'm ashamed to even acknowledge he and I live in the same state.

My sincere sympathies. i hear Tom Vilsack's wife is running against him. Does she have any realistic shot?

159 Targetpractice  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:54:30pm

re: #154 Charles Johnson

Oh man. I really hope Romney takes the advice of the loony wingnut contingent and doubles down.

I actually think that, should he lose, the excuse is gonna end up being "If he'd just said this (47%/Libya/etc) earlier, he'd have won."

160 Mocking Jay  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:54:32pm

re: #154 Charles Johnson

Oh man. I really hope Romney takes the advice of the loony wingnut contingent and doubles down.

pleaseohpleaseohplease

161 freetoken  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:54:35pm

re: #153 PT Barnum

I live in Steve King's district. I'm ashamed to even acknowledge he and I live in the same state.

So you didn't get re-districted out? Given that Iowa lost one Rep, the territory is now larger. Also, from what I've read this election will be much tighter for King than 2010.

162 HappyWarrior  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:55:09pm

re: #157 Lidane

If you read the wingnut blogs, Mittens is secretly leading in the polls because of his comments about Libya and Egypt, and these 47% comments will put him over the edge into the White House.

Delusions never looked so hilarious.

Heh yep.

163 dragonath  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:56:05pm

If he walks this one back, the moaning from the "base" he's trying to rile up is gonna be fun.

164 Locker  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:56:23pm

re: #103 JamesWI

Yep. They really want to make themselves irrelevant tonight:

"We're not dependent on government. Now give us our paid-for abortion on demand, free education, birth control, and gov't healthcare."

— Dana Loesch (@DLoesch) September 18, 2012

Wow.....

We're not dependent on government. We don't need the military, the police, the fire department, the roads, the schools, the cdc, the food, car, environmental and other safety departments. Anarchy!

165 recusancy  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:56:43pm

re: #137 PT Barnum

I would love to see her run and win in 2016 and get reelected in 2020. The sound of wingnut anyeurisms popping would be like cheap champagne, but way more tasty.

I'd love to see her run and win because I think she'd be a good president. How does wingnut aneurisms help anybody?

166 MittDoesNotCompute  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:57:11pm

re: #153 PT Barnum

I live in Steve King's district. I'm ashamed to even acknowledge he and I live in the same state.

I'm ashamed that King and I live on the same planet...

167 Gus  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:57:33pm
168 tnguitarist  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:57:36pm

re: #154 Charles Johnson

Oh man. I really hope Romney takes the advice of the loony wingnut contingent and doubles down.

I would almost guarantee he will.

169 darthstar  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:57:37pm

I CAN'T HEAR YOU! I CLOSE MY EYES AND YOU ARE INVISIBLE TO ME! Yeah, that'll work for you, Mittless wonder.

170 Mr. Crankypants  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:57:49pm

re: #155 HappyWarrior

I agree. Anyhow, I'm sure the Democrats will pick a fine successor for Obama as the party's standard bearer. Got some good ones in the stable.

I'm not sure about Vilsack. I think she's good, but there are a lot of nutjobs that think Steve King is worth putting back in office because he pisses off liberals.

171 Locker  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:58:53pm

re: #167 Gus

You should make a page from that man. Great article.

172 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:59:40pm

Romney has lost David Brooks: Thurston Howell Romney.

173 steve_davis  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:59:48pm

re: #67 Mattand

re: #61 Sionainn

I was thinking that while watching the clips. With those quotes, it's really hard to imagine a context where Romney comes out looking good.

Romney: "That is what I WOULD be telling you all, if we really WERE the elitist, out of touch assholes everyone thinks we are. But of course, what I'm really running for is the chance to do what all of us here want: to have me help our glorious comrades in the House redistribute wealth from the bourgeois running-dog Yankee imperialist overlords to the lumpen proletariat."

Well, it COULD be a possibility!

174 darthstar  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:59:49pm

re: #167 Gus

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Wow...I actually agree with David Brooks.

Forty-seven percent of the country, he said, are people “who are dependent upon government, who believe they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to take care of them, who believe they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you name it.”

This comment suggests a few things. First, it suggests that he really doesn’t know much about the country he inhabits. Who are these freeloaders? Is it the Iraq war veteran who goes to the V.A.? Is it the student getting a loan to go to college? Is it the retiree on Social Security or Medicare?

It suggests that Romney doesn’t know much about the culture of America. Yes, the entitlement state has expanded, but America remains one of the hardest-working nations on earth. Americans work longer hours than just about anyone else. Americans believe in work more than almost any other people. Ninety-two percent say that hard work is the key to success, according to a 2009 Pew Research Survey.

And there's more...

175 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:00:08pm

re: #167 Gus

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Beat me to it!

176 Obdicut  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:00:08pm

re: #164 Locker

We're not dependent on government. We don't need the military, the police, the fire department, the roads, the schools, the cdc, the food, car, environmental and other safety departments. Anarchy!

Image: tumblr_maf93vo59l1qf0x5ko1_1280.jpg

177 erik_t  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:00:16pm

re: #172 Charles Johnson

Romney has lost David Brooks: Thurston Howell Romney.

That takes some doing.

Wow.

178 Mr. Crankypants  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:00:25pm

re: #161 freetoken

So you didn't get re-districted out? Given that Iowa lost one Rep, the territory is now larger. Also, from what I've read this election will be much tighter for King than 2010.

He was the congressman for the 5th district, due to redistricting he's running for the 4th district, while our previous congressman Tom Latham (R) is running for the 3rd district against the current congressman Leonard Boswell (D). I think Vilsack has a better chance than Boswell, myself. I would love to see Vilsack and Boswell both win.

179 darthstar  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:00:25pm

re: #172 Charles Johnson

Romney has lost David Brooks: Thurston Howell Romney.

I expect in his next 'conversation' with Gail Collins he'll bring up the dog on roof himself.

180 bubba zanetti  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:00:45pm

re: #154 Charles Johnson

GOD DAMMIT DIDN'T I TELL YOU THE FIRST RULE OF WINGNUT CLUB???!??

181 Mr. Crankypants  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:01:06pm

re: #165 recusancy

I'd love to see her run and win because I think she'd be a good president. How does wingnut aneurisms help anybody?

Keeps em from breeding...

182 Gus  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:01:12pm

re: #175 Charles Johnson

Beat me to it!

I'm really a team of 100 people buried deep in the Rocky Mountains somewhere outside of Denver International.

//

183 darthstar  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:01:49pm

re: #182 Gus

I'm really a team of 100 people buried deep in the Rocky Mountains somewhere outside of Denver International.

//

Would you like to play a game?
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184 HappyWarrior  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:03:04pm

Romney’s comments also reveal that he has lost any sense of the social compact. In 1987, during Ronald Reagan’s second term, 62 percent of Republicans believed that the government has a responsibility to help those who can’t help themselves. Now, according to the Pew Research Center, only 40 percent of Republicans believe that.
That to me shows the irony of Mitt, a man who once tried to position himself to the left of Reagan and H.W Bush and now whom has positioned himself to the right. This isn't big government versus limited government. This is a man still trying to convince an increasingly right wing base that government can't do anything right which is hilarious given that he had no problem using that same government to get funding for the Olympics, the same ones he likes to brag about.

185 Gus  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:03:23pm

re: #183 darthstar

Would you like to play a game?
Image: WOPR.jpg

I remember about a year ago a lot of folks on the left were upset with Brooks. He's not that big of a conservative but really right of center. We can grant him being a conservative and he, like David Frum, are the kinds of conservatives we need today.

186 ReamWorks SKG  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:03:48pm

If he _really_ believes this:

"“There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what…These are people who pay no income tax.”"

...then why doesn't he publicly come out and say he would want to make sure that all Americans pay some income tax?

Since he's never said that, then he's in the vote-buying business, too.

187 erik_t  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:04:25pm

re: #185 Gus

I remember about a year ago a lot of folks on the left were upset with Brooks. He's not that big of a conservative but really right of center. We can grant him being a conservative and he, like David Frum, are the kinds of conservatives we need today.

I can (and do) usually think Brooks is a dumbass, while recognizing he's not a truly off-the-rails nutter.

188 Gus  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:04:52pm
189 Gus  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:05:42pm
190 Mattand  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:05:50pm

re: #144 PT Barnum

Christie is nothing but an oversized bully peddling the same crap the rest of the GOP peddles.

And just about every Republican in this state buys into it, without question.

191 steve_davis  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:06:00pm

re: #180 bubba zanetti

GOD DAMMIT DIDN'T I TELL YOU THE FIRST RULE OF WINGNUT CLUB???!??

uhmm.....four legs good, two legs bad?

192 Locker  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:06:02pm

This from Mr Brooks...

"Romney, who criticizes President Obama for dividing the nation, divided the nation into two groups: the makers and the moochers. Forty-seven percent of the country, he said, are people “who are dependent upon government, who believe they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to take care of them, who believe they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you name it."

193 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:06:19pm

re: #185 Gus

I remember about a year ago a lot of folks on the left were upset with Brooks. He's not that big of a conservative but really right of center. We can grant him being a conservative and he, like David Frum, are the kinds of conservatives we need today.

After Frum's anti-gun DERPs over the summer I no longer think of him as a conservative. I'd still extend that title to David Brooks, David Frum is just a RINO to me.

194 Gus  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:06:22pm

Who'd of thunkit that Morgan Fairchild would turn out to be so cool. I remember back in my hippie days I used to think she was this "plastic actress."

195 HappyWarrior  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:06:41pm

re: #185 Gus

I remember about a year ago a lot of folks on the left were upset with Brooks. He's not that big of a conservative but really right of center. We can grant him being a conservative and he, like David Frum, are the kinds of conservatives we need today.

We definitely do need more conservatives like that today. I think what turns me off of many contemporary American conservatives is the huge anti government rhetoric but at the same time equally massive social conservatism.

196 Interesting Times  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:06:53pm
197 dragonath  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:07:19pm

At this rate, Romney's gonna be lucky if he can even get 47%.

198 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:07:21pm

re: #194 Gus

Who'd of thunkit that Morgan Fairchild would turn out to be so cool. I remember back in my hippie days I used to think she was this "plastic actress."

With great tits.
Evening Honcos.

199 Gus  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:08:31pm

re: #193 Dark_Falcon

After Frum's anti-gun DERPs over the summer I no longer think of him as a conservative. I'd still extend that title to David Brooks, David Frum is just a RINO to me.

You know what the difference is between the Democrats and the Republicans on guns? You're allowed to be either pro-gun or anti-gun as a Democrat. If you're a Republican, you only have one choice. Myself I'm closer to a Dem since I respect both sides of the coin.

200 dragonath  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:09:19pm

re: #193 Dark_Falcon

After Frum's anti-gun DERPs over the summer I no longer think of him as a conservative. I'd still extend that title to David Brooks, David Frum is just a RINO to me.

RINO

._.

201 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:10:15pm

re: #199 Gus

You know what the difference is between the Democrats and the Republicans on guns? You're allowed to be either pro-gun or anti-gun as a Democrat. If you're a Republican, you only have one choice. Myself I'm closer to a Dem since I respect both sides of the coin.

I'm much more one-sided on the issue: if you're anti-gun, I'm not going to vote for you.

202 recusancy  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:10:21pm

Bill OReilly and Jon Stewart are going to debate on Oct 6th. [Link: www.therumble2012.com...]

203 darthstar  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:10:45pm
204 JamesWI  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:11:00pm

re: #201 Dark_Falcon

I'm much more one-sided on the issue: if you're anti-gun, I'm not going to vote for you.

Focused like a laser on the economy.

205 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:11:01pm

re: #201 Dark_Falcon

I'm much more one-sided on the issue: if you're anti-gun, I'm not going to vote for you.

Do you own a gun?

206 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:11:20pm

re: #201 Dark_Falcon

I'm much more one-sided on the issue: if you're anti-gun, I'm not going to vote for you.

There are some on the left who want all guns banned. They can suck it.

207 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:11:42pm

re: #202 recusancy

Bill OReilly and Jon Stewart are going to debate on Oct 6th. [Link: www.therumble2012.com...]

That will be quite fun. Those two have gone on each other's shows many times and the exchanges tend towards the epic. Both are smart, articulate and funny. It should be quite a show.

208 Targetpractice  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:11:55pm

re: #176 Obdicut

Image: tumblr_maf93vo59l1qf0x5ko1_1280.jpg

Is a man not entitled to sweat off his brow?

209 erik_t  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:11:57pm

re: #193 Dark_Falcon

After Frum's anti-gun DERPs over the summer I no longer think of him as a conservative. I'd still extend that title to David Brooks, David Frum is just a RINO to me.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

oh honey

210 Amory Blaine  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:12:05pm

Romney’s Adviser Complains About Company’s High Taxes — But It Pays Just 2.2 Percent

In a congressional hearing Thursday, Continental Resources CEO and Mitt Romney’s chief energy adviser Harold Hamm asked to preserve the oil industry’s billions in tax breaks, although his company pays little in federal taxes. The oil firm has earned more than $1.8 billion profit over five years by dominating the oil shale boom in North Dakota.

In his prepared testimony, Hamm defends tax breaks by pointing to his own company, saying, “Continental’s effective tax rate is 38%!” But according to Citizens for Tax Justice, Continental paid an average 2.2 percent tax rate, or $40 million, over five years.

211 R.M, Ramallo  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:12:09pm

Modern GOP, AKA hypocrites, hate the government but wants to get elected to government to reap the benefits of the government they hate.
Tax-payer funded healthcare anyone? How about a little corporate welfare?

212 ReamWorks SKG  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:12:42pm

Our erev Rosh Hashanah sermon, while 100% non-partisan, was about what was so evil about the people of Sodom. And it wasn't homosexuality.

Our Rabbi's sermon isn't online yet, but here's the gist of it, from a similar discussion on the Orthodox site "torah.org"

[Link: www.torah.org...]

There's a fascinating passage in the Talmud (Sanhedrin 109a) which describes the mentality of the Sodomites. (In fact we see parallels to it in some of the strict immigration laws of more recent times.) What brought the Sodomites to such repugnant evil? The answer in a word was that they saw the lushness of their own land and desired it for themselves. And so, they banned all travelers and visitors. (Today, after its destruction (Genesis 19), it is the area of the Dead Sea, one of the most barren and uninhabitable places in the world.) Why share our richness with anyone else? As soon as you "make it," the shnorers (more respectfully: "fund-raisers") line up at your door. Who needs it? Not of course that they intended anyone else *harm* to be sure. They just wanted the comfortable life for themselves. "No Solicitors" figured prominently at the gates of their city (a rather common sight nowadays -- although most of the time the newly-arrived Israeli "solicitor" has no idea what the word means...). We wish you all the best, but keep your suffering and misery to yourselves!

Step two, continues the Talmud, the Sodomites enacted all sorts of cruel as well as absurd laws banning hospitality and charity, and doing away with all semblance of fair play. No one had any form of obligation towards others or was required to pay for any infraction. The Talmud lists such laws as that if one would hit his fellow, his fellow would owe *him* medical expenses for the service of blood-letting. Other choice rulings were that if A would cut off the ear of B's donkey, A would keep the donkey till it grew back, or if A would injure B's wife causing her to miscarry, A would take her till she again became pregnant.

The people of Sodom likewise decreed punishments for acts of charity. The Talmud records that when a young girl gave some bread to a poor person, they punished her by smearing her flesh with honey and tying her up on a roof, leaving her to die a horrific death at the hands of the bees. (The Sages state that it was this final breach of humanity which sealed the fate of these G-dless and despicable people.)

and

And the lesson for us is that there is simply no such thing as a person who focuses wholly on himself yet is still an "average" individual. If we accept that all humans are created in G-d's image, we will naturally feel obligated to help them and will share in their suffering. We might even see our wealth and talents as a responsibility: as gifts from G-d to be used in the manner He wishes. Once humans are in G-d's image, they are all equal, significant, and deserving of our love and respect.

According to the Bible that Mitt Romney professes to believe in, he's a Sodomite.

213 Gus  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:12:47pm

re: #205 goddamnedfrank

Do you own a gun?

I once shot a 45 in a gulch. No hearing protection. I couldn't hear for 5 minutes. Felt good.

214 HappyWarrior  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:12:57pm

re: #210 Amory Blaine

Romney’s Adviser Complains About Company’s High Taxes — But It Pays Just 2.2 Percent

What does Harold Hamm want to pay in taxes? 0%? Man those poor rich businessmen can't catch a break in this country. Bunch of whiny complainers.

215 Gus  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:13:25pm

Guns. I've shot a Mauser, Colt 45, Remington .22, Marlin 33, and most of the time a BB gun.

216 dragonath  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:13:38pm

Using terms like RINO is all about exerting control. It's the goddamn Borg.

217 Gus  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:13:42pm

Vote for me!

//

218 Lidane  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:13:46pm

re: #208 Targetpractice

Is a man not entitled to sweat off his brow?

We saw how well that turned out for Andrew Ryan.

219 darthstar  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:14:31pm
220 Lidane  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:14:44pm
221 HappyWarrior  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:14:46pm

re: #216 dragonath

Using terms like RINO is all about exerting control. It's the goddamn Borg.

I always hated DINO too. I mean I'm not going to be "liberal" on every subject. Personally I try to subscribe myself to the non political definition of liberal where I try to have an open mind and be open to new ideas.

222 jaunte  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:14:50pm

re: #215 Gus

So you believe in mixed-caliber marriages?

223 aagcobb  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:15:02pm

re: #212 ReamWorks SKG

Our erev Rosh Hashanah sermon, while 100% non-partisan, was about what was so evil about the people of Sodom. And it wasn't homosexuality.

Our Rabbi's sermon isn't online yet, but here's the gist of it, from a similar discussion on the Orthodox site "torah.org"

[Link: www.torah.org...]

and

According to the Bible that Mitt Romney professes to believe in, he's a Sodomite.

You ought to page this.

224 Locker  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:15:18pm

re: #195 HappyWarrior

Gonna move this up.

225 erik_t  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:15:28pm

re: #215 Gus

Guns. I've shot a Mauser, Colt 45, Remington .22, Marlin 33, and most of the time a BB gun.

Guns are fuckin' fun, but I sure don't treat them as a single-issue vote.

As a matter of fact, ever notice how many single-issue voters have like five or twelve single issues? How precisely does that work?

226 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:15:30pm

re: #213 Gus

I once shot a 45 in a gulch. No hearing protection. I couldn't hear for 5 minutes. Felt good.

I went to an Iron Maiden concert. Couldn't hear for 3 days!!

227 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:17:21pm

re: #193 Dark_Falcon

After Frum's anti-gun DERPs over the summer I no longer think of him as a conservative. I'd still extend that title to David Brooks, David Frum is just a RINO to me.

You're really just doing self-parody at this point, aren't you. This is your internet persona and you're sticking to it for the lulz.

228 ReamWorks SKG  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:17:59pm

re: #223 aagcobb

It's perfectly fine for a person to be an isolationist and not want to help others.

But just don't claim to be a strict adherent of a faith that incorporates values from the Hebrew Bible. You can't be both.

229 dragonath  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:18:13pm

re: #225 erik_t

As a matter of fact, ever notice how many single-issue voters have like five or twelve single issues? How precisely does that work?

I'm all for god fearing assault gun toting babies myself.

230 Gus  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:18:30pm

re: #226 Cannadian Club Akbar

I went to an Iron Maiden concert. Couldn't hear for 3 days!!

I almost went deaf seeing Golden Earring open for Ted Nugent. I gave Nugent the finger that night. He sucked as did Golden Earring. I was already in my jazz-fusion stage.

231 Mocking Jay  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:22:02pm

re: #193 Dark_Falcon

After Frum's anti-gun DERPs over the summer I no longer think of him as a conservative. I'd still extend that title to David Brooks, David Frum is just a RINO to me.

Let the purges continue!

232 recusancy  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:25:58pm

re: #193 Dark_Falcon

After Frum's anti-gun DERPs over the summer I no longer think of him as a conservative. I'd still extend that title to David Brooks, David Frum is just a RINO to me.

Keeping that tent big I see.

233 MittDoesNotCompute  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:43:17pm

re: #194 Gus

Who'd of thunkit that Morgan Fairchild would turn out to be so cool. I remember back in my hippie days I used to think she was this "plastic actress."

It seemed like she was in everything in the 80s...

234 Burbank_Ben  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 10:28:10pm

More leaked audio!

235 Blizard  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 10:58:22pm

re: #226 Cannadian Club Akbar

I went to an Iron Maiden concert. Couldn't hear for 3 days!!

Up the irons!


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