Uh… About That #Obama Flag?

Campaign flags through the years
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The latest nontroversy being circulated in the wingnut-o-sphere today is the release of a new logo by the Obama campaign designed around the America flag. I decided to collect some campaign flags used in the past by various political campaigns and by political groups.

Finally, I bring you a comparison of two logos designed around the map of the United States as pointed out to me by Big Joe.

Obama Logo

Fox News Logo

Nothing to see here so move along please.

David Barton desecrating the American flag.

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328 comments
1 researchok  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 3:47:11pm

Even the stupid is unoriginal.

Morons.

2 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 3:47:55pm

Barton's dopey ass just drips DERP.

3 jaunte  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 3:49:49pm

Gauging the various design solutions, I think this one is hands down the worst:
Image: Screen_shot_2012-09-20_at_5.47.35_PM.png

4 Charles Johnson  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 3:50:42pm

Notice that on Twitter's website this post shows up as a photo card, with a nice big image of the Obama logo.

Uh... About That Obama Flag?

5 Charles Johnson  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 3:52:21pm

This is great, Gus, thanks. Gonna have to promote it - already getting lots of hits from Twitter.

I'll leave it here a little while in case you want to edit something.

6 Gus  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 3:52:58pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

This is great, Gus, thanks. Gonna have to promote it - already getting lots of hits from Twitter.

I'll leave it here a little while in case you want to edit something.

Thanks! I had enough after seeing them try to start a hashtag trend and reading their stupid Tweets.

7 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 3:54:08pm

Just an aside: look at the bottom left of that Reagan poster. What do you see?

/hint: a bunch of RWNJ heads would pop over it.

8 Gus  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 3:55:32pm

re: #7 Gert Fröbe

Just an aside: look at the bottom left of that Reagan poster. What do you see?

/hint: a bunch of RWNJ heads would pop over it.

What is it?

9 jaunte  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 3:57:24pm

[Link: twitter.com...]

Stars & Derps

10 Charles Johnson  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 4:00:54pm

Oops, didn't mean to promote it quite so soon - was testing something and hit the wrong button. Gus: if you still want to change anything let me know.

11 JamesWI  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 4:01:00pm

Brought from downstairs:

Looks like the decades-old War on Women is coming back to bite em, big time.

12 Gus  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 4:01:22pm

re: #10 Charles Johnson

Oops, didn't mean to promote it quite so soon - was testing something and hit the wrong button. Gus: if you still want to change anything let me know.

OK, thanks. Was wondering what happened. ;)

13 wrenchwench  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 4:01:46pm

re: #8 Gus

What is it?

A union bug.

14 Gus  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 4:02:08pm

re: #13 wrenchwench

A union bug.

Ah, was thinking that might be the case.

15 JamesWI  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 4:03:22pm

Ha, new fake Mitt account:

16 makeitstop  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 4:05:27pm

re: #7 Gert Fröbe

Just an aside: look at the bottom left of that Reagan poster. What do you see?

/hint: a bunch of RWNJ heads would pop over it.

Union label? (I'm guessing)

17 jaunte  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 4:06:40pm

Deep Thoughts from John Nolte:
Image: Screen-shot-2012-09-20-at-6.04.jpg

(Note to John: a poster is not actually a U. S. flag)

18 The Mountain That Blogs  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 4:07:43pm

At this point, I just assume every outrageous outrage is not only false, but based on something the ones screaming about it did at one point.

19 JamesWI  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 4:08:14pm

You stay classy, Scott Brown:

20 Gus  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 4:09:04pm

re: #17 jaunte

Deep Thoughts from John Nolte:
Image: Screen-shot-2012-09-20-at-6.04.jpg

Hahahaha! My eyes just did a vertical 180.

21 JamesWI  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 4:10:55pm
22 Lidane  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 4:11:01pm
23 Gus  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 4:11:46pm

re: #22 Lidane

Outrage!

Patriotic/July 4th Weddings

Outrage! Look at all of that flag desecration! Those people should be arrested at once!

24 bluecheese  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 4:12:12pm

I like the new logo. looks cool.

They hate the logo, cause it undermines their "Obama isn't American" theme.

Obama is always so calm, consistent, and on message. It drives wingnuts crazy.

The recording from 1998 showed how Obama has been singing the same song since forever.

He really is a talented pol.

25 makeitstop  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 4:22:08pm

They seem to be quickly running out of crap to fling if this is the best they can do.

26 JamesWI  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 4:22:30pm

Brown keeps on calling Warren "Professor" like it's an insult. Your modern GOP at work.

27 Lidane  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 4:24:02pm

re: #26 JamesWI

Brown keeps on calling Warren "Professor" like it's an insult. Your modern GOP at work.

That's because to the modern GOP, calling her professor IS an insult. Remember-- Santorum said that the smart people would never be on their side. They wear anti-intellectualism like a badge of honor.

28 JamesWI  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 4:24:55pm

[Link: www.c-span.org...]

Link to the stream of the MA debate

29 Someone Please Beam Me Up!  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 4:26:10pm

Actually, I don't like it much -- but not because it's a desecration. (I'll express my distaste the old-fashioned way, I won't buy one.)

30 engineer cat  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 4:27:04pm

blaine! blaine! james g blaine!

continental liar from the state o' maine!

31 Lidane  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 4:27:33pm

Ooh. Bill Clinton is going on The Daily Show tonight. This should be fun.

32 wheat-dogg  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 4:28:25pm

Technically speaking, none of those are the American flag, which has 13 stripes and (now anyway) 50 stars in a specific pattern. So what's the BFD?

Oh, right, Being President While Black.

33 Gus  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 4:31:08pm

re: #32 wheatdogg

Technically speaking, none of those are the American flag, which has 13 stripes and (now anyway) 50 stars in a specific pattern. So what's the BFD?

Oh, right, Being President While Black.

Correct. The Obama flag isn't supposed to be the American flag in the first place.

34 sagehen  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 4:32:19pm

re: #22 Lidane

Outrage!

Patriotic/July 4th Weddings

some of those cakes looked pretty good...

35 JamesWI  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 4:32:34pm
36 Lidane  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 4:32:50pm

re: #29 Someone Please Beam Me Up!

Actually, I don't like it much -- but not because it's a desecration. (I'll express my distaste the old-fashioned way, I won't buy one.)

I bought a couple of pins the last time around because they looked cool. I haven't been tempted to buy anything this time around, although I might buy one of those Made in the USA mugs with the birth certificate just for laughs.

37 abolitionist  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 4:33:01pm

re: #32 wheatdogg

Technically speaking, none of those are the American flag, which has 13 stripes and (now anyway) 50 stars in a specific pattern. So what's the BFD?

Oh, right, Being President While Black.

I can't think of a good way to look this up --what's BFD?

38 Lidane  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 4:34:33pm
39 Lidane  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 4:34:46pm

re: #37 abolitionist

I can't think of a good way to look this up --what's BFD?

Big Fucking Deal

40 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 4:35:21pm

Bob Grant 2008

From the article:

On the October 15 broadcast of his nationally syndicated radio show, Bob Grant said: "[W]hat is that flag that Obama's been standing in front of that looks like an American flag, but instead of having the field of 50 stars representing the 50 states, there's a circle?" He then said: "Is the circle the 'O' for Obama? Is that what it is?" Grant later said: "[D]id you notice Obama is not content with just having several American flags, plain old American flags with the 50 states represented by 50 stars? He has the 'O' flag. And that's what that 'O' is. That's what that 'O' is."

They're all certifiable.

41 sagehen  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 4:35:52pm

re: #38 Lidane

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Good. Now bring the rest.

Bin Laden sleeps with the fishes, we got what we came for, everything else we've tried to do there really belongs in the category of "as long as we're here anyway..." but now we don't need to be there anyway.

Time to come home, boys and girls.

42 Lidane  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 4:35:53pm

re: #34 sagehen

some of those cakes looked pretty good...

However, aside from the Ben Franklin & Betsy Ross impersonators that got married, the other wedding dresses left a lot to be desired.

43 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 4:36:14pm

re: #40 Reverend Mother Ramallo

Bob Grant 2008

From the article:

On the October 15 broadcast of his nationally syndicated radio show, Bob Grant said: "[W]hat is that flag that Obama's been standing in front of that looks like an American flag, but instead of having the field of 50 stars representing the 50 states, there's a circle?" He then said: "Is the circle the 'O' for Obama? Is that what it is?" Grant later said: "[D]id you notice Obama is not content with just having several American flags, plain old American flags with the 50 states represented by 50 stars? He has the 'O' flag. And that's what that 'O' is. That's what that 'O' is."

They're all certifiable.

It was the Ohio state flag.

44 JamesWI  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 4:36:21pm

Brown is stumbling all over his words, Warren is attacking him on the Blunt Amendment. If the voters don't see Warren as the obvious winner here, something is seriously wrong with them.

Now she's evoking Ted Kennedy.

45 Only The Lurker Knows  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 4:37:02pm

History doesn't matter matter to these people things worms Daleks.


46 wrenchwench  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 4:37:19pm
47 Kragar  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 4:37:54pm

Rick Perry Blames Separation Of Church And State On Satan

In a conference call with fellow evangelicals earlier this week, Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R) shared his thoughts on the origins of the constitutionally mandated separation of church and state. Rather than tracing the idea to the nation’s founders, Perry warned of a more nefarious source: Satan.

“Satan runs across the world with his doubt and with his untruths and what have you and one of the untruths out there that is driven is that people of faith should not be involved in the public arena,” Perry said during the call on Tuesday, organized by the Rev. Rick Scarborough.

Perry said the separation of religious and civic institutions in the U.S. began with a “narrative” that first took root in the 1960s.

“Somehow or another there’s this, ya know, steel wall, this iron curtain or whatever you want to call it between the church and people of faith and this separation of church and state is just false on its face,” the governor said. “We have a biblical responsibility to be involved in the public arena proclaiming God’s truth.”

I have a common sense responsibility to toss morons talking about Satan out of the public arena.

48 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 4:38:33pm

re: #46 wrenchwench

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Now he needs to convert that limo into a low-rider and make it bounce !

49 Decatur Deb  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 4:39:57pm

re: #46 wrenchwench

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"Romney's so Mexican he's even got a Virgen de Guadalupe air freshener in his limo now"

Not if he sings La Bamba in a Home Depot parking lot.

50 wrenchwench  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 4:40:26pm

re: #48 Reverend Mother Ramallo

Now he needs to convert that limo into a low-rider and make it bounce !

I think he'll get there!

51 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 4:41:55pm

re: #47 Kragar

Rick Perry Blames Separation Of Church And State On Satan

I have a common sense responsibility to toss morons talking about Satan out of the public arena.

"Iron curtain". Charming.

52 Gus  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 4:42:31pm
54 DisturbedEma  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 4:43:26pm

re: #51 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

The Steel curtain remark could lose in the Steeler fans. . .oh wait:)

55 DisturbedEma  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 4:44:22pm

re: #54 DisturbedEma

He siad wall when THEY know it was the Steel Curtain. . .sheesh, really? /

56 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 4:44:22pm

re: #53 Sheila Brovlofski

That Dave Barton photo reminds me of this.

"Barton" is just "Borat" + "n". Coincidence?

57 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 4:44:25pm

Malfunction alert: There's nothing on the bottom comments list.

58 Targetpractice  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 4:45:03pm

re: #57 Killgore Trout

Malfunction alert: There's nothing on the bottom comments list.

You volunteerin' or somethin'?

//

59 Lidane  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 4:45:36pm

re: #48 Reverend Mother Ramallo

Now he needs to convert that limo into a low-rider and make it bounce !

With the proper soundtrack, of course:

60 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 4:46:36pm

re: #57 Killgore Trout

Malfunction alert: There's nothing on the bottom comments list.

Happy to help you out there.

61 Gus  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 4:46:57pm

Community college.

62 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 4:48:36pm

re: #58 Targetpractice

You volunteerin' or somethin'?

//

I thought for sure my "politics is getting dumber" was outrageous enough. I'll try harder.

63 Obdicut  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 4:49:08pm

re: #62 Killgore Trout

I thought for sure my "politics is getting dumber" was outrageous enough. I'll try harder.

It was mostly just completely trite.

64 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 4:49:13pm

re: #56 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

"Barton" is just "Borat" + "n". Coincidence?

Has anyone ever seen them in the same room together?

Wearing a bright American flag shirt, turquoise bolo tie and cowboy hat, he is welcomed onto the grounds by rodeo organizers, where he woos the crowd by telling them, in a heavy faux-Russian accent, that in his country, "We support your war of terror." The audience cheers. He follows with, "May Supreme Warlord George W. Bush drink the blood of every single man, woman, and child of Iraq!" Again, the cheers. So he pushes a bit more. "May you destroy their country so that for the next thousand years, not even a single lizard will survive in their desert!"

65 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 4:50:59pm

re: #64 Sheila Brovlofski

Has anyone ever seen them in the same room together?

"May you destroy their country so that for the next thousand years, not even a single lizard will survive in their desert!"

Blasphemy!

66 wrenchwench  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 4:52:51pm

re: #59 Lidane

With the proper soundtrack, of course:

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67 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 4:53:28pm

re: #30 engineer cat

blaine! blaine! james g blaine!

continental liar from the state o' maine!

Ma, Ma, Where's my Pa?
Gone to the White House! Ha ha ha!

68 Charles Johnson  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 4:54:49pm

re: #66 wrenchwench

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Mitt's going to start opening his stump speeches with "Que onda, gueros?"

69 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 4:55:04pm

re: #67 Shiplord Kirel

Ma, Ma, Where's my Pa?
Gone to the White House! Ha ha ha!

Grover Cleveland, 1892.

70 palomino  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 4:57:14pm

Could David Barton look any more like a rodeo clown?

71 Gus  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 4:59:50pm

Was that debate filmed in 1982?

//

72 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 5:00:36pm

re: #69 Sheila Brovlofski

Grover Cleveland, 1892.

Who was apparently as much of a horndog as Bill Clinton was said to be.

73 Decatur Deb  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 5:00:59pm

re: #68 Charles Johnson

Mitt's going to start opening his stump speeches with "Que onda, gueros?"

Hope no one tells him 'pendejo' doesn't mean 'pensioner'.

74 wrenchwench  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 5:01:59pm

re: #68 Charles Johnson

Mitt's going to start opening his stump speeches with "Que onda, gueros?"

75 efuseakay  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 5:03:35pm

re: #26 JamesWI

Brown keeps on calling Warren "Professor" like it's an insult. Your modern GOP at work.

To them, being a Professor is something to make fun of. It's too sciency-sounding!

76 Gus  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 5:05:10pm

ICYMI
Massachusetts Senate Debate
Sep 20, 2012

77 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 5:06:09pm

I haven't been paying attention to the cyclical outrage. Flags, flag pins, shaking hands with the left hand, right hand, bowing, he-said, she-said stuff. Same Shit, different campaign.

How is everyone this evening?

78 Charles Johnson  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 5:06:20pm

Bill O'Reilly still yammering about "income redistribution."

Image: triplefacepalm.jpg

79 Gus  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 5:10:28pm

Just like Obama being a socialist crony-capitalist.

80 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 5:11:34pm

re: #78 Charles Johnson

Bill O'Reilly still yammering about "income redistribution."

Image: triplefacepalm.jpg

While Obama allegedly "talked" about income redistribution, Mitt Romney was actively doing it!

81 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 5:11:34pm

re: #79 Gus

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Just like Obama being a socialist crony-capitalist.

Facts, how do they fucking work?

82 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 5:11:35pm

re: #22 Lidane

Outrage!

Patriotic/July 4th Weddings

OMG! I love that you keep-us-up-to-date on that site.

The one looks more like a "Parade Queen" or 4H Fair Parade dress.

83 nines09  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 5:11:50pm

re: #78 Charles Johnson

Isn't watching Bill like being trapped in a room that has all the air slowly being sucked out of it?

84 Decatur Deb  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 5:12:07pm

Celia Cruz & Pavarroti

85 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 5:15:07pm

re: #80 Sheila Brovlofski

While Obama allegedly "talked" about income redistribution, Mitt Romney was actively doing it!

I think the opposite nature of the two Candidates past income levels is rather hilarious. Obama's income pre candidacy was more line with a successful small business person. As far as I know, neither he or Michelle had more than $1M in assests --the house in Hyde Park etc.

Romney had enough to feel the need to put it in off-shore accounts.

Obama may have qualified for the 1%, but That means the Romneys were in the .005 Percent.

Who is better able to relate to the average voter?

86 Gus  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 5:16:44pm

re: #84 Decatur Deb

Celia Cruz & Pavarroti

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The Queen of Salsa!

87 Gus  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 5:18:41pm

No bottom comments and one of DF's comments is the top comment.

The world is about to end.

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88 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 5:19:31pm

re: #85 ggt

I think the opposite nature of the two Candidates past income levels is rather hilarious. Obama's income pre candidacy was more line with a successful small business person. As far as I know, neither he or Michelle had more than $1M in assests --the house in Hyde Park etc.

Romney had enough to feel the need to put it in off-shore accounts.

Obama may have qualified for the 1%, but That means the Romneys were in the .005 Percent.

Who is better able to relate to the average voter?

I'll pick the guy who had to pay off student loans.
I can definitely relate.

89 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 5:19:36pm

re: #87 Gus

No bottom comments and one of DF's comments is the top comment.

The world is about to end.

//

will wonders never cease

91 Obdicut  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 5:21:41pm

re: #87 Gus

I think your favorite band sucks, your style of fashion is reminiscent of a drug-addled Brian Dennehy, and the last book you loved I'm personally finding every copy of and destroying.

92 Gus  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 5:24:06pm

re: #91 Obdicut

I think your favorite band sucks, your style of fashion is reminiscent of a drug-addled Brian Dennehy, and the last book you loved I'm personally finding every copy of and destroying.

Damn you!

93 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 5:25:02pm

re: #87 Gus

No bottom comments and one of DF's comments is the top comment.

The world is about to end.

//

We are in a goooooood place.

Or people are brown nosing us. (totally kidding, I went back & added to the ups)

94 Obdicut  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 5:25:36pm

re: #92 Gus

Really I just like saying "drug-addled Brian Dennehy"

Image: brian-dennehy-playboy.jpg

95 Gus  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 5:25:44pm

re: #93 We're All Welfare Queens Now

We are in a goooooood place.

Or people are brown nosing us. (totally kidding, I went back & added to the ups)

Maybe Rwmofo will show up.

96 wrenchwench  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 5:26:15pm

Hasta la vista, lizards.

Image: Xgt2hQOnPki9bfsgsJ_URg2.jpg

97 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 5:26:22pm

re: #90 Mr. Crankypants

Mr. Crank, is that you and your Dad back in the day?

98 Gus  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 5:29:25pm
99 steve_davis  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 5:29:55pm

re: #37 abolitionist

I can't think of a good way to look this up --what's BFD?

Clearly you've never picked Joe Biden up on one of his hitchhiking forays to various political events.

100 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 5:30:00pm

I've also been thinking. OWS supplied the talking point 99% vs. 1% and it stuck like glue. By even USING a percentage, Mitt fucked himself. These numbers are resonating.

101 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 5:31:17pm

re: #97 We're All Welfare Queens Now

Mr. Crank, is that you and your Dad back in the day?

My Avatar? No it's me and my boy. Had it done during a trip to the Mall of America.

102 Obdicut  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 5:31:27pm

re: #98 Gus

It can't be loaded, but that's probably just as well.

103 Gus  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 5:32:03pm

re: #102 Obdicut

It can't be loaded, but that's probably just as well.

[Link: www.imdb.com...]

104 Gus  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 5:34:54pm
105 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 5:35:30pm

re: #95 Gus

Maybe Rwmofo will show up.

Or Buck will take time away from the Page that he posted, saying that GM shouldn't have been allowed to take TARP money since they were expanding their business in China (or some claptrap like that).

106 Petero1818  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 5:36:11pm

My God. Peter King is a scum bag of the highest order. Absolute fabrication about a Blind Sheik release is insane. I believe that a Democratic Representative should come out and allege that they heard that Romney is hiding 2 more wives, and one of them is 17. Let it circulate a while in the blogosphere.

107 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 5:36:57pm

re: #104 Gus

They are Skin Illustrations!

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I've watched that movie part of the way through. Couldn't finish because Rod Steiger chewed up all the scenery.

108 Gus  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 5:37:26pm

re: #107 Mr. Crankypants

I've watched that movie part of the way through. Couldn't finish because Rod Steiger chewed up all the scenery.

Steiger was always so intense.

109 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 5:37:30pm

re: #106 Petero1818

My God. Peter King is a scum bag of the highest order. Absolute fabrication about a Blind Sheik release is insane. I believe that a Democratic Representative should come out and allege that they heard that Romney is hiding 2 more wives, and one of them is 17. Let it circulate a while in the blogosphere.

Peter King, Steve King they're all douchebags.

110 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 5:38:13pm

re: #108 Gus

Steiger was always so intense.

I liked him in The Heat of the Night with Sidney Poitier, but never thought much of him as an actor otherwise.

111 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 5:38:20pm

re: #100 We're All Welfare Queens Now

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I've also been thinking. OWS supplied the talking point 99% vs. 1% and it stuck like glue. By even USING a percentage, Mitt fucked himself. These numbers are resonating.

Yes, no one can say OWS was a failure. It's damn hard to get a meme in the political dialogue and perhaps history books.

112 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 5:38:23pm
113 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 5:39:15pm

re: #101 Mr. Crankypants

My Avatar? No it's me and my boy. Had it done during a trip to the Mall of America.

Lol, SO CUTE! I was thinking the fair. But MOA, is apt.

114 Only The Lurker Knows  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 5:39:15pm

Night Lizards. Time to prepare for one of those inevitable things.

She Was a good Woman. A Tribute to her.

She wasn't just a relative. She was a friend.

115 Decatur Deb  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 5:39:57pm

re: #110 Mr. Crankypants

I liked him in The Heat of the Night with Sidney Poitier, but never thought much of him as an actor otherwise.


The Pawnbroker

[Link: www.imdb.com...]

116 Gus  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 5:41:42pm

re: #115 Decatur Deb


The Pawnbroker

[Link: www.imdb.com...]

The Pawnbroker - 'You People?'

117 Gus  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 5:43:50pm

re: #114 Bubblehead II

Night Lizards. Time to prepare for one of those inevitable things.

She Was a good Woman. A Tribute to her.

She wasn't just a relative. She was a friend.

Sorry for your loss.

118 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 5:44:36pm

Since the bottom comments list is empty and it needs to be said: Mitt wearing blackface to speak with Latinos has to be the dumbest outrage of the day.

119 freetoken  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 5:46:17pm

Professor Hamilton's latest post on gasoline prices in the US, and also the change in driving in the US is worth a gander:


Thresholds in the economic effects of oil prices

There are long term changes, and challenges, underway in this country, and unfortunately our political sphere appears unable to publicly discuss them, much less do much about them.

120 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 5:47:06pm

re: #116 Gus

The Pawnbroker - 'You People?'

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Very powerful!

121 JamesWI  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 5:47:11pm

re: #118 Killgore Trout

Since the bottom comments list is empty and it needs to be said: Mitt wearing blackface to speak with Latinos has to be the dumbest outrage of the day.

No one is "outraged." Everyone is laughing at him. Troll attempt is a failure.

122 Gus  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 5:47:28pm

re: #118 Killgore Trout

Since the bottom comments list is empty and it needs to be said: Mitt wearing blackface to speak with Latinos has to be the dumbest outrage of the day.

Brown face. And we weren't outraged. It was ridicule. Now I will upding you.

123 Gus  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 5:47:55pm

re: #121 JamesWI

No one is "outraged." Everyone is laughing at him. Troll attempt is a failure.

Upding him! ;)

124 JamesWI  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 5:48:34pm

re: #123 Gus

Upding him! ;)

I prefer to give him nothing other than a roll of my eyes.

125 Gus  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 5:48:54pm

re: #124 JamesWI

I prefer to give him nothing other than a roll of my eyes.

OK

126 Archangelus  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 5:49:29pm

re: #100 We're All Welfare Queens Now

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I've also been thinking. OWS supplied the talking point 99% vs. 1% and it stuck like glue. By even USING a percentage, Mitt fucked himself

Yup, another high caliber bullet in the incessant barrage of fire in the Republican Party's 2012 effort to shoot its own legs off. Mitt/Money Boo-Boo really screwed himself in a big way... wondering how it'll be reflected in the polls ahead of this point..

127 Lidane  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 5:50:35pm

re: #118 Killgore Trout

Since the bottom comments list is empty and it needs to be said: Mitt wearing blackface to speak with Latinos has to be the dumbest outrage of the day.

It was brownface, not blackface.

Also, the only one who's outraged is John Boehner, since Mitt stole 47% of his spray tan to get that look.

128 Gus  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 5:51:30pm
129 palomino  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 5:52:03pm

re: #118 Killgore Trout

Since the bottom comments list is empty and it needs to be said: Mitt wearing blackface to speak with Latinos has to be the dumbest outrage of the day.

Blackface? That's orangeface he's wearing...it comes from the same FakeBake tube of greasy face cream that makes the Real Housewives so beautiful, in that artificial plastic way that has, for whatever reason, become so popular.

130 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 5:52:30pm

I thought it was orange too!

132 Gus  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 5:53:22pm

re: #128 Gus

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And you know that red is opposite of green on the color wheel. It's a trick! Green is the color of Islam!

//

133 Gus  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 5:55:10pm
134 Gus  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 5:55:21pm
135 Gus  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 5:55:27pm

Outrage!

136 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 5:56:27pm

bbl

137 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 5:59:43pm

Evening Lizardim.

138 Charles Johnson  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 6:02:03pm

At Breitbart.com, commenters think the Obama logo looks just like the smears of blood left by bodies being dragged through the streets by raging Muslim mobs.

I wish I was kidding.

139 Gus  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 6:03:22pm

re: #138 Charles Johnson

At Breitbart.com, commenters think the Obama logo looks just like the smears of blood left by bodies being dragged through the streets by raging Muslim mobs.

I wish I was kidding.

[Link: twitter.com...]

140 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 6:05:04pm

re: #138 Charles Johnson

At Breitbart.com, commenters think the Obama logo looks just like the smears of blood left by bodies being dragged through the streets by raging Muslim mobs.

I wish I was kidding.

I wish you were too. Ugh. I'm reminded of the old saw: "Think of the average person. Then think about the fact that half of the world's population is dumber than them."

141 allegro  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 6:07:15pm

re: #138 Charles Johnson

At Breitbart.com, commenters think the Obama logo looks just like the smears of blood left by bodies being dragged through the streets by raging Muslim mobs.

I wish I was kidding.

Interesting. I see sweeps of paint in Barn Red, a symbol of Midwest bounty and hard working farm families along with a contemporary sunrise icon.

Is this like a Rorschach test? If so, I'd rather be alone with me than with one of them.

142 Charles Johnson  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 6:08:52pm

re: #141 allegro

Interesting. I see sweeps of paint in Barn Red, a symbol of Midwest bounty and hard working farm families along with a contemporary sunrise icon.

Is this like a Rorschach test? If so, I'f rather be alone with me than with one of them.

Yes, it's a wingnut Rorschach test, and they're failing.

143 Targetpractice  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 6:10:24pm

re: #142 Charles Johnson

Yes, it's a wingnut Rorschach test, and they're failing.

Not failing so much as just going into viewing it with the intention of finding the worst depictions. Says more about their states of mind or lack thereof than the merits of the logo.

144 Gus  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 6:11:07pm
145 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 6:11:22pm

re: #142 Charles Johnson

Yes, it's a wingnut Rorschach test, and they're failing.

Time to call in the men in black helicopters. That's what they're all afraid of, innit?

146 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 6:11:38pm

re: #140 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too

I wish you were too. Ugh. I'm reminded of the old saw: "Think of the average person. Then think about the fact that half of the world's population is dumber than them."

That's the motto behind my blog. I heard it from George Carlin first, so I call it Carlin's Law

147 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 6:13:07pm

re: #144 Gus

[Link: www.printfection.com...]

Ooooh, there's 7 stripes. What does that mean?

These people should not be left alone.

148 Gus  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 6:13:48pm

re: #147 We're All Welfare Queens Now

Ooooh, there's 7 stripes. What does that mean?

These people should not be left alone.

The 7 fingered aliens that will invade!!!

149 Charles Johnson  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 6:14:10pm
150 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 6:14:36pm

re: #149 Charles Johnson

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Whaddya want to bet one of those few wingnuts that doesn't have you blocked will immediately start freaking out over this?

151 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 6:15:01pm

re: #147 We're All Welfare Queens Now

Ooooh, there's 7 stripes. What does that mean?

These people should not be left alone.

It's Fruit Stripe Gum

152 Targetpractice  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 6:15:07pm

re: #148 Gus

The 7 fingered aliens that will invade!!!

Perhaps we'll get lucky and they'll be vulnerable to water.

/years later and I still can't believe I paid money to see that.

153 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 6:15:40pm

MEH

154 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 6:15:57pm

re: #152 Targetpractice

Perhaps we'll get lucky and they'll be vulnerable to water.

/years later and I still can't believe I paid money to see that.

Poor M. Night..one movie with a really good twist ending and he's been trying to live it down ever since.

155 dragonath  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 6:16:04pm

The right wing was giving one of Obama's campaign managers a hard time today for a picture he had posted on twitter, adding a bunch of really sick comments.

I think that's a difference with the left, at least. A site like TPM, while biased, never gets nasty.

156 Gus  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 6:17:05pm

re: #149 Charles Johnson

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157 Charles Johnson  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 6:19:50pm

re: #156 Gus

[Embedded content]

The latest right wing meme - Obama's logo looks like blood smears!

How much crazier can they get?

158 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 6:19:55pm

Foreigner isn't going to work. The flag isn't going to work. Socialist isn't going to work.

I bet you they will go back to the college transcripts and Michelle's graduate thesis.

Or Obama will wear mom jeans riding a bike next week.

What the fuck is left?

159 JamesWI  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 6:20:51pm

re: #158 We're All Welfare Queens Now

I bet you they will go back to the college transcripts and Michelle's graduate thesis.

They never left that one. We just started ignoring them.

160 Gus  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 6:20:54pm

re: #157 Charles Johnson

The latest right wing meme - Obama's logo looks like blood smears!

How much crazier can they get?

I'm sure they're working on that.

161 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 6:20:57pm

re: #158 We're All Welfare Queens Now

Foreigner isn't going to work. The flag isn't going to work. Socialist isn't going to work.

I bet you they will go back to the college transcripts and Michelle's graduate thesis.

Or Obama will wear mom jeans riding a bike next week.

What the fuck is left?

Soros!
Wright!
Ayers!
The seekrit gay wife!

162 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 6:21:08pm

A wingnut I know thinks Obama's "snub" of Netanyahu is what inspired the mobs in Cairo and the assault force in Benghazi.

Muslim Brother#1 "Hear me, oh brothers! The Kenyan turncoat Obama has refused to meet with the head Zionist!"
MB#2 "Allah be praised! He will surely deliver them into our hands if we burn down his embassy!"
MB#3 "What? His embassy? That doesn't make any sense. He's more likely to deliver us to a SEAL team if we do that."
MB#2 "Silence, young one. You are not yet well-versed in the ways of jihad."
MB#1 "I will summon the mob! Oh, excuse me, young one, do you know how to get this accursed cell phone to work?"

163 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 6:21:53pm

re: #142 Charles Johnson

Yes, it's a wingnut Rorschach test, and they're failing.

Pretty damn bad to fail a test you don't even have to study for.

164 Obdicut  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 6:23:39pm
165 Gus  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 6:25:30pm

biab

166 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 6:26:00pm

re: #157 Charles Johnson

The latest right wing meme - Obama's logo looks like blood smears!

How much crazier can they get?

I don't know, I don't want to know, and I am 100% certain that we are going to find out.

167 prairiefire  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 6:31:21pm

re: #164 Obdicut

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Is that an ironic statement?

168 Iwouldprefernotto  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 6:33:03pm

re: #166 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too

I don't know, I don't want to know, and I am 100% certain that we are going to find out.

It's late and I'm lazy (and among friends or should I say comrades) but didn't the oraginal red stripes on the flag symbolize blood?

169 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 6:36:43pm

re: #168 Iwouldprefernotto

It's late and I'm lazy (and among friends or should I say comrades) but didn't the oraginal red stripes on the flag symbolize blood?

I thought they symbolized the original 13 states.

170 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 6:37:14pm

Pro-tip: When moving large amounts of money from one currency to another don't go through a bank or even a brokerage house. The exchange rate listed in the papers is not what you'll get. Even 2-3% makes a huge difference when large amounts are involved. Find a friend (preferably an art dealer, stamp peddler, etc) who does business in the states. Lots of people love dollars. for a $25 wire transfer fee you can make a private agreement, cut out the banks and their profits and both of you save a lot of money.

171 Obdicut  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 6:38:29pm

re: #168 Iwouldprefernotto

It's late and I'm lazy (and among friends or should I say comrades) but didn't the oraginal red stripes on the flag symbolize blood?

That's a back-formation. Nobody really knows why the design was chosen. Very similar to a lot of other flags then in use.

172 Gus  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 6:38:29pm

Ugh. Got two libertarians wanting to debate this. Not thanks. Blocked.

173 JamesWI  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 6:39:01pm

Lulz: Seems To Be Going Great

Ann Romney says fellow Republicans who’ve criticized her husband need to “stop it” and realize “how lucky” the party is to have Mitt Romney as its nominee.

“Stop it. This is hard. You want to try it? Get in the ring,” she said. “This is hard and, you know, it’s an important thing that we’re doing right now and it’s an important election and it is time for all Americans to realize how significant this election is and how lucky we are to have someone with Mitt’s qualifications and experience and know-how to be able to have the opportunity to run this country.”

174 Iwouldprefernotto  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 6:39:09pm

re: #169 Sheila Brovlofski

I thought they symbolized the original 13 states.

Yes they did, I'm referring to the color red.

175 Obdicut  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 6:39:50pm

re: #167 prairiefire

Is that an ironic statement?

It's Horse Ebooks.

176 Gus  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 6:40:02pm

It's still different because they replaced the stars with the Obama logo! This is a specious argument!!

177 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 6:41:32pm

re: #174 Iwouldprefernotto

Yes they did, I'm referring to the color red.

Well, it's a strong color. I've got 6 different national flags in my pencil cup and they are all combinations of red, white and blue.

178 Gus  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 6:42:26pm
Continental Congress adopts the following: Resolved: that the flag of the United States be thirteen stripes, alternate red and white; that the union be thirteen stars, white in a blue field, representing a new constellation.
179 Gus  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 6:44:48pm
What do the red, white, and blue of the flag represent?

The Continental Congress left no record to show why it chose the colors. However, in 1782, the Congress of the Confederation chose these same colors for the Great Seal of the United States and listed their meaning as follows: white to mean purity and innocence, red for valor and hardiness, and blue for vigilance, perseverance, and justice. According to legend, George Washington interpreted the elements of the flag this way: the stars were taken from the sky, the red from the British colors, and the white stripes signified the secession from the home country. However, there is no official designation or meaning for the colors of the flag.

[Link: www.ushistory.org...]

180 Gus  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 6:45:34pm
181 Lidane  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 6:46:07pm
182 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 6:47:42pm

re: #181 Lidane

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So she's as much an asshat as he is. Ladies and gentlemen, introducing Mr. and Mrs. Douchecanoe.

183 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 6:50:00pm

re: #138 Charles Johnson

At Breitbart.com, commenters think the Obama logo looks just like the smears of blood left by bodies being dragged through the streets by raging Muslim mobs.

I wish I was kidding.

I saw that.

I don't often descend into the swamps of right-wing comment sections, and now I've reminded myself why.

184 Lidane  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 6:50:23pm
185 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 6:50:44pm

re: #182 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too

So she's as much an asshat as he is. Ladies and gentlemen, introducing Mr. and Mrs. Douchecanoe.

More like Lord and Lady Douchebag

186 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 6:52:04pm

re: #185 Mr. Crankypants

More like Lord and Lady Douchebag


[Video]

That brought a smile to my face, well done.

187 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 6:52:33pm

re: #173 JamesWI

Lulz: Seems To Be Going Great

You should be grateful Mitt deigned to take the time to be involved. God what a lot of arrogant douches.

188 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 6:53:31pm

re: #185 Mr. Crankypants

More like Lord and Lady Douchebag

[Embedded content]

My favorite line from that sketch:

Do you think there will be a Douchebag in Parliament this year?
There's always a Douchebag in Parliament.

189 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 6:54:10pm

re: #188 Mr. Crankypants

My favorite line from that sketch:

Do you think there will be a Douchebag in Parliament this year?
There's always a Douchebag in Parliament.

What's that from, by the way? I'm dying laughing over here. The Mrs. Fish is looking at me like I've lost my marbles.

190 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 6:54:44pm

re: #189 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too

What's that from, by the way? I'm dying laughing over here. The Mrs. Fish is looking at me like I've lost my marbles.

It was a Saturday Night Live Sketch, you know, back when it was still funny.

191 JamesWI  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 6:56:48pm
192 Mich-again  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 6:57:03pm

re: #173 JamesWI

"... it is time for all Americans to realize how significant this election is and how lucky we are to have someone with Mitt’s qualifications and experience and know-how to be able to have the opportunity to run this country.”

A little cheese to go with that whine??

193 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 6:59:05pm

The entire sketch...NBC is blocking the video

Noblewoman: What a splendid party! I do believe everyone of any importance in England is here tonight.

Nobleman: Who would miss a party given by Lord Salisbury?

Butler: [ waiting at the door for guests to arrive ] Lord and Lady Wilkinson!

Lord Worcestershire: A marvelous entertainment, Salisbury! These chopped steaks are terrific, especially with this delicious mushroom sauce.

Lord Salisbury: Thank you, Coming from you, Worcestershire, that certainly is a compliment. [ turns to his guests ] Lord and Lady Wilkinson, welcome!

Lord Worcestershire: Tell me, Wilkinson, what the deuce is the purpose of two swords?

Lord Wilkinson: It's simple, really. Let's say you're an an attacker. My first blade straightens you upright, while the second clips you neatly at the ankles.

Lady Wilkinson: And there's Lady Wilkinson, for attacking your opponent's underarms and legs!

Butler: The Earl of Sandwich!

Nobleman: Tell me, have you seen Lord Cardigan?

Noblewoman: I understand he was turned away at the door..

Nobleman: Lord Cardigan? Why in heaven's name?

Noblewoman: He wasn't properly attired. Evidently, he came in a sweater.

Nobleman: Odd. I saw Lord Ascot, and he got in..

Butler: The Duke and Duchess of Argyll!

Lord Worcestershire: You know, Sandwich.. were the Sandwich Islands named after you?

Earl of Sandwich: Oh, no. Everyone asks me that, but I'm afraid nothing has ever been named after a member of my family.

Servant: Excuse me, your Lordship, but would you care for one of Lord Salisbury's steaks?

Earl of Sandwich: Yes, I would. Would you bring it to me with a couple slices of pumpernickel, please?

Servant: Yes. [ steps away ]

Butler: Lord and Lady Doucebag!

Lord Salisbury: Well, well, well.. I was just asking Lord Sandwich, "Where the devil are those Douchebags?"

Lady Doucebag: Well, it has been impossible to get him out of his workshop! He has been working day and night.

Lord Salisbury: You, Douchebag? Well, I wasn't aware you dabbled in that sort of thing. What in heaven's name are you working on?

Lord Doucebag: Well, I would be happy to tell you.. but perhaps after you have finished eating.

Lord Salisbury: Well, here is Chambers right now. Would you like something to eat?

Lord Doucebag: We're not too hungry right now - just a plate of raw vegetables.

Lord Salisbury: Would you like some dresing with that?

Lady Doucebag: Just some vinegar and water, thank you.

Earl of Sandwich: Douchebag, how are you? I haven't seen you in the House of Lords in ages! Don't tell me for the first time in memory we are going to have a House of Parliament without a Douchebag?

Lord Doucebag: My dear Sandwich, Parliament has always had its share of Douchebags, and it always will.

Lord Salisbury: Spoken like a true Douchebag. I have often heard the King speak of your family.. [ to Earl of Sandwich ] ..and of yours, as well: "Give me a Sandwich and a Douchebag, and there is nothing I cannot do."

Earl of Sandwich: Hear, hear!

Lord Salisbury: So, tell me, Douchebag.. when are you going to show us that invention of yours?

Earl of Sandwich: Yes, Douchebag, just what kind of an invention are you sitting on?

Lord Doucebag: Well, it's a long story. Why don't we go out to the garden, and I'll explain it to you.

Earl of Sandwich: Tell me - did Lady Douchebag help you in the project?

Lord Doucebag: Help? Why.. she was the inspiration!

[ they exit to the garden to discuss the wondrous invention ]

Butler: Lord Compost Heap and Lady Disinfectant Cake!

[ fade ]

194 Mocking Jay  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 6:59:16pm

re: #173 JamesWI

I totally read that last line as "opportunity to ruin this country."

195 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 6:59:35pm

re: #182 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too

So she's as much an asshat as he is. Ladies and gentlemen, introducing Mr. and Mrs. Douchecanoe.

196 austin_blue  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:00:00pm

re: #180 Gus

[Embedded content]

That's my town!

A little blue dot in a sea of ca-ca-ca-crazy.

197 Mich-again  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:00:07pm

re: #187 Mr. Crankypants

You should be grateful Mitt deigned to take the time to be involved. God what a lot of arrogant douches.

Isn't she a piece of work. You peasants ought to thank your lucky stars that Mitt the Great has decided to forego the next 8 years of his life to save America and the world.

198 Lidane  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:00:20pm

Hahaha. This is awesome:

199 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:00:28pm

re: #195 We're All Welfare Queens Now

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"Mitt, honey, why are these poor people getting all uppity on us? I don't understand, they should be grateful for everything we've done to for them."

200 Sophist, Gingham Style  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:01:29pm

re: #173 JamesWI

Leave Mittney alone!! </Chris Crocker >

201 Lidane  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:02:14pm
202 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:02:39pm

re: #200 SophistFCD

Leave Mittney alone!! </Chris Crocker >

I so wish I had more updings. This is the Comment of the Evening.

203 JamesWI  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:03:04pm
204 Bulworth  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:03:28pm

Wait, you mean the Kenyan ursurper stole Reagan's campaign flag?! //

205 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:04:58pm

< tinfoil hat >

What if the GOP strategy is to deliberately appear completely, ridiculously incompetent in order to persuade opponents that there's NO WAY they could possibly win, thereby planting the seeds of overconfidence and complacency, in order to ensure low voter turnout?

< /tinfoil hat >

Vote, please. If it's not too much trouble, go ahead and tell other people you know that they should vote. That is all.

206 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:05:33pm

re: #205 Our Precious Bodily Fluids

< tinfoil hat >

What if the GOP strategy is to deliberately appear completely, ridiculously incompetent in order to persuade opponents that there's NO WAY they could possibly win, thereby planting the seeds of overconfidence and complacency, in order to ensure low voter turnout?

< /tinfoil hat >

Vote, please. If it's not too much trouble, go ahead and tell other people you know that they should vote. That is all.

Fuck not voting. I not only want to beat him I want to run up the score.

207 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:05:39pm
208 Targetpractice  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:06:10pm

Heh, how cute. Wingnuts trying to defend Romney are busting out teleprompter jokes to prop up their hopes that he can outperform Obama in the debates.

I almost pity them...almost.

209 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:06:44pm

re: #208 Targetpractice

Heh, how cute. Wingnuts trying to defend Romney are busting out teleprompter jokes to prop up their hopes that he can outperform Obama in the debates.

I almost pity them...almost.

Didn't he go to the Republican Health Care conference and hand them their asses?

210 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:07:04pm

re: #208 Targetpractice

Heh, how cute. Wingnuts trying to defend Romney are busting out teleprompter jokes to prop up their hopes that he can outperform Obama in the debates.

I almost pity them...almost.

Thing is, Obama could be reading off a damn typewritten script and still beat Romney at this point. Romney is that fail.

211 Lidane  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:08:48pm

*sigh*

I'll bet he also saw them sitting in chairs, using iPads and smartphones and even eating food and drinking coffee.

212 Targetpractice  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:08:53pm

re: #209 Mr. Crankypants

Didn't he go to the Republican Health Care conference and hand them their asses?

It's the desperation setting in, they know the debates are his last chance to mount any sort of comeback and he's a poor debater at best. The only reason he "won" any debates in the primaries is because he relied upon the other candidates to fight more with each other than with him.

213 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:09:41pm

re: #209 Mr. Crankypants

Didn't he go to the Republican Health Care conference and hand them their asses?

Yep, and all they could say was,"Next time, no cameras."

214 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:09:51pm

re: #205 Our Precious Bodily Fluids

< tinfoil hat >

What if the GOP strategy is to deliberately appear completely, ridiculously incompetent in order to persuade opponents that there's NO WAY they could possibly win, thereby planting the seeds of overconfidence and complacency, in order to ensure low voter turnout?

< /tinfoil hat >

Vote, please. If it's not too much trouble, go ahead and tell other people you know that they should vote. That is all.

I have been looking, and cannot find that video posted right before the 2008 election that had Obama in a Tour de France type of race all yeah, hands up in the air, winnah! Then an embarrassing wreck with McCain passing him by. Anyone? That was epic and needs to be re-run.

215 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:11:13pm

re: #173 JamesWI

Lulz: Seems To Be Going Great

OMFG...Ann is as vapid as her husband.

216 Mich-again  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:12:27pm

Baseball season is approaching the end and the candidate named Mitt hasn't thrown out a single first pitch or had a photo op playing catch. He must be named after an oven Mitt.

217 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:13:21pm

re: #197 Mich-again

Isn't she a piece of work. You peasants ought to thank your lucky stars that Mitt the Great has decided to forego the next 8 years of his life to save America and the world.

Don't forget what Mitt said about his sons in 2007: “one of the ways my sons are showing support for our nation is helping to get me elected.”

218 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:14:46pm

re: #64 Sheila Brovlofski

Has anyone ever seen them in the same room together?

When I saw the movie, I actually thought people stopped cheering and started looking grim as he ranted. One guy starts to cheer, and his wife shushes him.

219 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:14:50pm
220 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:15:21pm

re: #181 Lidane

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Ann doesn't wanna get in this ring:

221 engineer cat  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:17:20pm

i'm beginning to get bored with the campaign

imma consult my physician for an election lasting more than four years

222 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:17:47pm
223 Mentis Fugit  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:18:05pm

re: #206 Mr. Crankypants

Fuck not voting. I not only want to beat him I want to run up the score.

There is no Mercy Rule in politics.

224 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:18:28pm

re: #221 engineer cat

i'm beginning to get bored with the campaign

imma consult my physician for an election lasting more than four years

Japan sent us 10 tons of Viagra because they heard we were having troubles with our elections.

225 engineer cat  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:18:41pm

someone with Mitt’s qualifications and experience and know-how

exactly that is what makes me most afraid of him

226 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:19:11pm

re: #218 SanFranciscoZionist

When I saw the movie, I actually thought people stopped cheering and started looking grim as he ranted. One guy starts to cheer, and his wife shushes him.

Then there's that bar where he sings "Throw the Jews Down The Well!" It just went on and on and on. Everybody is totally drunk. I guess the embarrassed ones just sneaked out.

227 Mocking Jay  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:19:15pm

Not even dominatrices beat up on men this much...

228 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:20:19pm

re: #221 engineer cat

i'm beginning to get bored with the campaign

imma consult my physician for an election lasting more than four years

Essie Litella: What's all this fuss I keep hearing about flea elections in China? If Oriental insects want to run for office, that is their business!

Emily Litella: [ interrupting ] Miss Litella! Miss Litella!

Essie Litella: What?

Emily Litella: That's flea erections. Flea erections!

Essie Litella: Oh. Well, that's very different. Never mind.

229 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:21:16pm

re: #177 Sheila Brovlofski

Well, it's a strong color. I've got 6 different national flags in my pencil cup and they are all combinations of red, white and blue.

It's also the colors of the British flag, which I assume is not coincidental.

230 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:21:34pm

What's the movie?

231 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:22:06pm

re: #229 SanFranciscoZionist

It's also the colors of the British flag, which I assume is not coincidental.

Well, by a coincidence, one of the flags in my collection is a UK flag.

232 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:23:51pm

re: #218 SanFranciscoZionist

I watched it on DVD with my parents...
Nude hotel scene was bad enough. Imagine watching it with your dad.
O_O

233 jaunte  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:24:36pm

re: #208 Targetpractice

Heh, how cute. Wingnuts trying to defend Romney are busting out teleprompter jokes to prop up their hopes that he can outperform Obama in the debates.

I almost pity them...almost.

Obama is still playing basketball; Romney is definitely not going to be sharp enough to avoid going for a headfake.

234 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:25:02pm

re: #232 Reverend Mother Ramallo

I watched it on DVD with my parents...
Nude hotel scene was bad enough. Imagine watching it with your dad.
O_O

OMG OMG OMG
That was awful
I watched with my daughter

235 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:26:01pm

re: #234 Sheila Brovlofski

OMG OMG OMG
That was awful
I watched with my daughter

Oh Borat....One of the most cringeworthy movies I've ever seen. It made me feel sorry for a lot of the people that he used for comedy.

236 Gus  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:26:15pm

re: #204 Bulworth

Wait, you mean the Kenyan ursurper stole Reagan's campaign flag?! //

This this would have kept them quiet?

Image: Obama-Biden-12.jpg

Outrage!

237 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:26:29pm

re: #233 jaunte

Obama is still playing basketball; Romney is definitely not going to be sharp enough to avoid going for a headfake.

I think he's gonna get an elbow in the bridge of his nose.

238 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:27:02pm

re: #232 Reverend Mother Ramallo

I watched it on DVD with my parents...
Nude hotel scene was bad enough. Imagine watching it with your dad.
O_O

I went to a local theater with comfy seating where you can order pizzas and salads to eat while the movie plays.

The guy who took my husband and I out, however, was distressed by the anti-Semitic craziness in the opening scenes in Kazakhstan. I realized after a bit that he was repeatedly craning his neck to check on me (one of the few Jews he knows) and make sure I was not infuriated or upset. I managed to semaphore with my pizza that I was all right.

239 Targetpractice  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:27:26pm

re: #227 Mocking Jay

Not even dominatrices beat up on men this much...

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I notice that virtually every conservative pundit that's not already abandoned Romney is now trying to tell him what he needs to do to get his ass back in the game. And almost all of them agree: He needs to be somebody other than Mitt Romney.

240 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:27:46pm

re: #235 Mr. Crankypants

Oh Borat....One of the most cringeworthy movies I've ever seen. It made me feel sorry for a lot of the people that he used for comedy.

I must say, it was the only thing I have ever seen that made me feel some admiration for Alan Keyes.

241 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:28:40pm

re: #238 SanFranciscoZionist

I went to a local theater with comfy seating where you can order pizzas and salads to eat while the movie plays.

I can only imagine the mess they had to clean up after every screening of Cloverfield.

242 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:28:51pm

re: #239 Targetpractice

I notice that virtually every conservative pundit that's not already abandoned Romney is now trying to tell him what he needs to do to get his ass back in the game. And almost all of them agree: He needs to be somebody other than Mitt Romney.

Even though we should be grateful to have someone like Mitt running for office.

243 bratwurst  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:29:26pm

I saw Borat in Germany with German subtitles. I never really knew what uncomfortable laughter sounded like until that night.

244 Lidane  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:29:39pm

re: #227 Mocking Jay

Not even dominatrices beat up on men this much...

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Sure they do, but usually, when a Domme beats up a man, he likes it.

245 God of Binders with Women  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:29:54pm

After the election when Obama wins, Republicans might want to seriously reconsider their disbelief in evolution. In this sense I mean how societies evolve and how they truly are the party of a throwback, stale philosophy. Romney's 47% comments really offended me as my paternal grandparents worked their entire lives (my grandfather served in WWII), saved a little and lived on SS in their retirement. Mr. Romney, I can not tell you how happy I am that you will not be elected POTUS. You're a heartless man with no principles; a true charlatan and quite honestly, an asshole. I'm loving every minute of the GOP's demise. Thanks for reading, Lizards.

246 Mich-again  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:30:09pm

I bet if you watched a football game with Mitt he would be clueless. No Mitt, that hand signal by the ref only means travelling if its basketball. In football it's illegal procedure, K?

247 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:30:51pm

re: #244 Lidane

Sure they do, but usually, when a Domme beats up a man, he likes it.

You just explained the whole Romney campaign. He's a political masochist.

248 JamesWI  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:31:26pm

Poor Michael Steele. From Head of RNC to Pauly Shore.

249 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:32:24pm

A Birther over at the JREF posted the following Photoshopped image as "proof": Clicky How can people be this willfully blind?

250 I Am Kreniigh!  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:32:32pm

re: #43 Reverend Mother Ramallo

It was the Ohio state flag.

I was taught in civics class that our flag is not a flag but a banner. Wikipedia disagrees, but does admit that it is the only non-rectangular state flag.

Ohio "banner"

And now you know.

251 Lidane  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:32:39pm

re: #248 JamesWI

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Poor Michael Steele. From Head of RNC to Pauly Shore.

And he's still doing a better job than Reince Preibus.

252 Gus  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:34:03pm

re: #249 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too

A Birther over at the JREF posted the following Photoshopped image as "proof": Clicky How can people be this willfully blind?

I'm just seeing a 1x1 pixel.

254 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:36:12pm

re: #250 I Am Kreniigh!

:P

255 Gus  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:37:01pm
256 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:38:09pm

re: #252 Gus

I'm just seeing a 1x1 pixel.

Probably have to be logged in. Let's try this.

257 freetoken  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:38:15pm

re: #253 Gus

GOP Candidate Wants To Eliminate Department Of Energy Because He Saw Officials ‘Sitting There Reading Books’

Well, remember what Santorum noticed - the GOP isn't for smart people.

258 engineer cat  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:38:45pm

re: #252 Gus

I'm just seeing a 1x1 pixel.

it's proof of the existence of pixels

259 Gus  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:39:03pm

re: #256 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too

Probably have to be logged in. Let's try this.

Oh jeez. That one is ancient. Pathetic. At Jref? lol

260 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:39:28pm

re: #259 Gus

Oh jeez. That one is ancient. Pathetic. At Jref? lol

It's a Birther, how smart can they be?

261 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:40:55pm

"Blaine, Blaine, you oughtta be ashamed!
A Continental Liar from the state of Maine!"

- Democratic chant after news of Blaine's corrupt dealings as House Speaker came to light, 1884

As an additional interesting note: John A. Logan had been a Major General during the US Civil War, when his full black beard earned him the nickname of "Black Jack Logan".

262 Lidane  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:41:59pm
263 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:43:45pm

re: #93 We're All Welfare Queens Now

LOVE the new nic! Waves!

264 calochortus  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:46:52pm

re: #67 Shiplord Kirel

Ma, Ma, Where's my Pa?
Gone to the White House! Ha ha ha!

Just in case no one has mentioned the rejoinder yet-
Hooray for Maria. Hooray for the kid. I voted for Cleveland and I'm glad I did.

265 jaunte  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:49:30pm
266 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:50:21pm

re: #263 Dancing along the light of day

LOVE the new nic! Waves!

It was easy peasy. Waving back!

267 engineer cat  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:50:46pm

re: #256 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too

Probably have to be logged in. Let's try this.

"welcome to kenya", with "translation" into the arabic alphabet

SIL Ethnologue (2009) reports the largest communities of native speakers in Kenya as follows:

Niger-Congo
Bantu
Kikuyu 7.18 million
Kamba 3.96 million
Ekegusii 2.12 million (2006)
Kimîîru 1.74 million
Oluluyia > 1.5 million
Kigiryama 0.62 million (1994)
Kiembu 0.43 million (1994)

Nilo-Saharan
Nilotic
Dholuo 4.27 million
Kalenjin > 1.6 million
Maasai 0.59 million
Turkana 0.45 million (2009)

arabic is not among these languages. the most common lingua franca, swahili, is written with roman letters

The vast majority of Kenyans are Christian (83%), with 47.7% regarding themselves as Protestant and 23.5% as Roman Catholic. 621,200 of Kenyans are Orthodox Christians. Notably, Kenya has the highest number of Quakers in the world, with around 133,000 members. Sizeable minorities of other faiths do exist (Muslim 11.2%, irreligious 2.4%, indigenous beliefs 1.7%

ignorant wingnut is ignorant

268 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:51:55pm

This is completely not mine. But it's brilliant:


In these perilous times we need a man of action. We need someone who means what he says and says what he means. We need a man who is bold and doesn't kowtow to the masses. We need a leader who can shoot straight and stand up to the challenges facing this country. And this, my friends, is why I am voting for Yosemite Sam.

269 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:53:40pm

re: #203 JamesWI

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I wouldn't doubt that's the case for some Congresscritters.

270 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:54:26pm

re: #268 Mostly sane, most of the time.

This is completely not mine. But it's brilliant:

In these perilous times we need a man of action. We need someone who means what he says and says what he means. We need a man who is bold and doesn't kowtow to the masses. We need a leader who can shoot straight and stand up to the challenges facing this country. And this, my friends, is why I am voting for Yosemite Sam.

Stand up to challenges? He can't even stand up to Bugs Bunny.

271 Varek Raith  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:56:50pm

re: #270 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

Stand up to challenges? He can't even stand up to Bugs Bunny.

272 Gus  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:58:57pm

re: #265 jaunte

A rigorous scientific survey.

I learned a long time ago to put my trust in experts. The majority of which were structural engineers. In general it's a good policy because it keeps one from sounding like a fool or perhaps worse -- structural failure.

273 Targetpractice  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:59:12pm

Lord, now things are getting deep. One wingnut just dug up the announcement from the University of Colorado stating that their economic model shows Romney winning 310-218 in the electoral college. I had to break it to him that the model is A) five months out of date, B) was announced a month ago, and C) doesn't factor Gary Johnson into its equation. I looked it up further and found that their announcement also included speculation that, when Johnson was factored in, it would actually hurt Obama's chances in New Mexico.

274 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:59:49pm

re: #270 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

Stand up to challenges? He can't even stand up to Bugs Bunny.

He stands up to Bugs just fine. It's just that Bugs Bunny always manages to outwit Yosemite Sam that's the problem:

275 Mich-again  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 8:00:15pm

re: #268 Mostly sane, most of the time.

This is completely not mine. But it's brilliant:

In these perilous times we need a man of action. We need someone who means what he says and says what he means. We need a man who is bold and doesn't kowtow to the masses. We need a leader who can shoot straight and stand up to the challenges facing this country. And this, my friends, is why I am voting for Yosemite Sam.

Speaking of Looney Tunes.. Here is the movie character that inspired Foghorn Leghorn. And he fits right in the Tea Party today..

276 JamesWI  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 8:01:39pm
277 Gus  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 8:06:07pm

Australian House Of Representatives Votes Down Same-Sex Marriage

A bill to pass same-sex marriage was overwhelmingly shot down in Australia’s House of Representatives this week with a vote of 98-42. Prime Minister Julia Gillard led the opposition, but according to Sen. Sarah Hanson-Young of the Australian Greens, Gillard “didn’t have the guts… to explain to the Australian people why she thinks discrimination should continue.”...

Julia Gillard, atheist.

278 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 8:06:18pm

West Coast SNL election special.

279 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 8:07:15pm

G'night Lizardim.

280 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 8:11:52pm

re: #274 Dark_Falcon

And as an extra, here's the song the background music from the last scene in "Horse Hare" came from. Warner Brother's used the tune in other cartoons, but never the words:

281 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 8:12:36pm

Does the GOP have a coherent argument?

282 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 8:13:59pm

re: #281 We're All Welfare Queens Now

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Does the GOP have a coherent argument?

I made one last night. I don't know if any senators made it.

283 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 8:15:27pm

re: #282 Dark_Falcon

I made one last night. I don't know if any senators made it.

What? It was bipartisan and paid for (at least that's what I read)

But bottom line, IT'S REALLY BAD PRESS, which is all that matters anyway. Clueless.

284 Lidane  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 8:15:28pm

re: #274 Dark_Falcon

He stands up to Bugs just fine. It's just that Bugs Bunny always manages to outwit Yosemite Sam that's the problem.

I used this clip back in 2008 with Obama as Bugs. Seems worthy of a repeat this time around, given the general incompetence of the Romney campaign:

285 gwangung  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 8:18:03pm

re: #282 Dark_Falcon

I made one last night. I don't know if any senators made it.

Gotta give you that; it was coherent and some truth to it.

Not sure it was a GOOD argument, however (necessary and sufficient and all that...).

286 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 8:23:56pm

Horrors of homemaking. I got home, put laundry in. Forgot about it till now.

So over it, fuck.

287 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 8:25:55pm

re: #283 We're All Welfare Queens Now

What? It was bipartisan and paid for (at least that's what I read)

But bottom line, IT'S REALLY BAD PRESS, which is all that matters anyway. Clueless.

It was my view that it would lead to duplication of federal agency functions. As it turns out, it would do that to the extent I feared, but it would still have been a problem.

To be very clear, I don't oppose the bill, but I feel that to do what it is supposed to do it needs to be part of a broader reorg of the Department of Veteran's Affairs. Otherwise, I fear it will waste its effect in confusion and miscommunication.

288 Gus  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 8:26:44pm

So according to some, it's OK to burn the Koran and make films like "Innocence of Muslims," cartoons, etc. That OK. It's freedom of speech. Yet draw a playful interpretation of the American flag and all we hear is a litany of interpretations such that is the blood of Libya or that the artists should be charged with flag desecration. That the 5 stripes represent the 5 pillars of Islam and Obama's a Muslim. Many are enraged beyond words...

Got it.

289 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 8:27:29pm

re: #287 Dark_Falcon

It was my view that it would lead to duplication of federal agency functions. As it turns out, it would do that to the extent I feared, but it would still have been a problem.

To be very clear, I don't oppose the bill, but I feel that to do what it is supposed to do it needs to be part of a broader reorg of the Department of Veteran's Affairs. Otherwise, I fear it will waste its effect in confusion and miscommunication.

And the vets lose.

290 Gus  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 8:30:04pm

In many respects it's a similar reaction. I bet they use the same part of the brain.

291 Gus  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 8:30:20pm

Somewhere in the cortex.

//

292 engineer cat  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 8:31:14pm

re: #288 Gus

So according to some, it's OK to burn the Koran and make films like "Innocence of Muslims," cartoons, etc. That OK. It's freedom of speech. Yet draw a playful interpretation of the American flag and all we hear is a litany of interpretations such that is the blood of Libya or that the artists should be charged with flag desecration. That the 5 stripes represent the 5 pillars of Islam and Obama's a Muslim. Many are enraged beyond words...

Got it.

as jon stewart asked last night: "are there any rules at all on Bullshit Mountain??"

293 jaunte  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 8:31:22pm

re: #288 Gus

Image: 07_candidate3.jpg

(... and this is actually a flag, not a poster)

294 b_sharp  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 8:32:30pm

re: #291 Gus

Somewhere in the cortex.

//

The amygdala

295 Gus  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 8:32:46pm

re: #292 engineer cat

as jon stewart asked last night: "are there any rules at all on Bullshit Mountain??"

John Nolte should be allowed to be enraged like those guys protesting in Pakistan.

//

296 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 8:33:14pm

re: #289 We're All Welfare Queens Now

And the vets lose.

They will lose if a large program is put through without planning how the reorganized part of the Department of Veteran's Affairs (DoVA) will work with other parts of DoVA or how it will interface with other federal agencies or even state agencies that have veteran's employment programs.

Stanley, I have worked on conferences dealing with military health and I've learned how problematic things get if it is not thoroughly worked out at the outset how agencies are going to work together. Sometimes the confusion ends up making the new program a net minus, instead of a plus.

297 Gus  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 8:34:46pm

This is my Obama/Biden, Reagan/Bush imitation done in Arial-Narrow (bold). Posted above.

Image: Obama-Biden-12.jpg

Same concept as the Obama flag. Blob on the upper left. Stripes below and to the right.

298 Gus  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 8:35:03pm

Kerning.

299 Gus  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 8:35:37pm

re: #292 engineer cat

as jon stewart asked last night: "are there any rules at all on Bullshit Mountain??"

Selective reasoning.

300 jaunte  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 8:35:55pm

re: #297 Gus

DesecratioNarcissism!

301 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 8:36:55pm

re: #292 engineer cat

as Jon Stewart asked last night: "are there any rules at all on Bullshit Mountain??"

Rule 1: There are no rules.
Rule 2: Pam Geller is still a wretched excuse for a human being:

New ads scheduled to appear in the New York City subway system call for support of Israel in its war against "the savage," a reference to militant Muslims.

The ads, put out by a group called the American Freedom Defense Initiative, are aimed at criticizing violent attacks perpetrated by radical Islamists, according to Pamela Gellar, the founder and director of the group.

The ads read: "In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel. Defeat Jihad."

SNIP

The ads were initially rejected by the Metropolitan Transportation Authority, which runs New York's subway and train systems. MTA spokesman Aaron Donovan said that the ad failed to meet its standards, which prohibit demeaning language of any group. But those standards were ruled unconstitutional by a federal judge this summer, he said.

"Our hands are tied. The court found the MTA's regulations on non-commercial ads violated the First Amendment," Donovan said.

"The judge recognized our intention, but found our attempt to be constitutionally deficient," he added.

302 Gus  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 8:37:12pm

re: #300 jaunte

DesecratioNarcissism!

Volunteer? More like joining Obama's army. Count the stripes too. There are 5 for the 5 pillars of Islam like Obama! And they're red which is the color of Soviet Communism!

//

303 jaunte  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 8:37:26pm

Don Draper has been Assimilated
[Link: twitter.com...]

304 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 8:38:52pm

re: #285 gwangung

Gotta give you that; it was coherent and some truth to it.

Not sure it was a GOOD argument, however (necessary and sufficient and all that...).

Thank you for that. Sometimes we'll disagree on policy matters, but I thank you for seeing my argument as the honest effort I intended it to be.

305 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 8:39:25pm

re: #303 jaunte

Don Draper has been Assimilated
[Link: twitter.com...]

I got dragged into the freak who responded to Students for Obama.

LOL

306 jaunte  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 8:40:14pm

The sea ice extent fell to 3.41 million square kilometers, breaking the previous all-time low set in 2007 by 18%--despite the fact that this year's weather was cloudier and cooler than in 2007. Nearly half (49%) of the icecap was gone during this year's minimum, compared to the average minimum for the years 1979 - 2000. This is an area approximately 43% of the size of the Contiguous United States.
[Link: www.wunderground.com...]

307 Targetpractice  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 8:41:59pm

re: #303 jaunte

Don Draper has been Assimilated
[Link: twitter.com...]

Resistance is futile.

308 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 8:45:12pm

re: #307 Targetpractice

Resistance is futile.

Not really. Obama's "you can't change Washington from the inside" remark offers a weak point, if enough quantum torpedoes can be fired into it.

/To Boldly Go Where No Man Has Gone Before.

309 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 8:46:12pm

re: #306 jaunte

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As the rabbi says in the famous joke, we've got six months to learn to live underwater.

310 Gus  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 8:47:26pm
312 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 8:49:26pm

And Paris Hilton just got caught on tape putting out a homophobic rant worthy of Bryan Fischer:

The heiress was in Manhattan for New York Fashion Week and in the early morning hours of Friday, September 7, Paris' remarks were caught on tape by a cab driver, when her pal, who is an openly gay male model, is heard in the audio clip describing Grindr, an app that gay men use to locate other gay men for hookups.

The male friend says: "Say I log into Grindr, someone that's on Grindr can be in that building and it tells you all the locations of where they are and you can be like, 'Yo, you wanna f**k?' and he might be on like, the sixth floor," the pal says.

"Ewww. Eww. To get f**ked? Gay guys are the horniest people in the world," Paris is heard saying in the exclusive audio in response.

"They're disgusting. Dude, most of them probably have AIDS."

The driver who recorded the conversation told Radar: "I couldn't believe what was coming out of Paris' mouth and the way she was talking about gay men."

Nearly halfway into the 50-second clip, Paris is heard saying she'd be afraid to be a gay man and again throws the AIDS card into the mix.

"I would be so scared if I were a gay guy," Paris says.

"You'll like, die of AIDS."

Beautiful looks can mask ugly thoughts.

313 Gus  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 8:49:56pm

re: #308 Dark_Falcon

Not really. Obama's "you can't change Washington from the inside" remark offers a weak point, if enough quantum torpedoes can be fired into it.

/To Boldly Go Where No Man Has Gone Before.

Yet who want to run for office and say... wait for it...

"I'm a Washington INSIDER."

314 Targetpractice  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 8:53:12pm

re: #308 Dark_Falcon

Not really. Obama's "you can't change Washington from the inside" remark offers a weak point, if enough quantum torpedoes can be fired into it.

/To Boldly Go Where No Man Has Gone Before.

"Your resistance is hopeless...Number One."

315 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 8:54:29pm

re: #313 Gus

Yet who would want to run for office and say... wait for it...

"I'm a Washington INSIDER."

Few would dare. But the president cannot help but be an insider if he is to be effective. So for a president to say he (or she, because the job will eventually be held by a woman) cannot change change Washington from the inside is for him to say he cannot change Washington period.

It's that sort of unforced error I've talked about this week. Obama just handed Mitt Romney a way to change the topic and go onto the offensive, at least at his own rallies and appearances.

316 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 8:55:45pm

re: #314 Targetpractice

"Your resistance is hopeless...Number One."

The remark about quantum torpedoes had to do with those fired in Star Trek: First Contact.

317 Targetpractice  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 8:56:26pm

re: #316 Dark_Falcon

The remark about quantum torpedoes had to do with those fired in Star Trek: First Contact.

I know, but I was on a Best of Both Worlds kick. Still one of the greatest TV cliffhangers ever.

318 JamesWI  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 8:57:14pm

re: #308 Dark_Falcon

Not really. Obama's "you can't change Washington from the inside" remark offers a weak point, if enough quantum torpedoes can be fired into it.

/To Boldly Go Where No Man Has Gone Before.

I think at this point, people are too used to Romney taking quotes out of context to actually pay attention to another one. Pretty much his entire campaign so far has been out-of-context quotes, and they haven't really been working so far.

If "you didn't build that" fizzled, I don't see how this one sticks. Especially in the wake of the 47% comment. (Maybe, if that had never come out, it could have worked for a few percentage points in the polls)

319 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 8:57:46pm

re: #312 Dark_Falcon

And Paris Hilton just got caught on tape putting out a homophobic rant worthy of Bryan Fischer:

Beautiful looks can mask ugly thoughts.

So can Paris Hilton's looks.

320 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 8:57:48pm

re: #317 Targetpractice

I know, but I was on a Best of Both Worlds kick. Still one of the greatest TV cliffhangers ever.

Indeed. I first saw both episodes back to back, and it was truly great TV.

321 Gus  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 8:58:30pm

re: #315 Dark_Falcon

Few would dare. But the president cannot help but be an insider if he is to be effective. So for a president to say he (or she, because the job will eventually be held by a woman) cannot change change Washington from the inside is for him to say he cannot change Washington period.

It's that sort of unforced error I've talked about this week. Obama just handed Mitt Romney a way to change the topic and go onto the offensive, at least at his own rallies and appearances.

Perhaps and I could see that working. He was speaking metaphorically though and it is true. Look at the Tea Party ascension. That was not from the inside.

322 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 9:00:59pm

re: #315 Dark_Falcon

Few would dare. But the president cannot help but be an insider if he is to be effective. So for a president to say he (or she, because the job will eventually be held by a woman) cannot change change Washington from the inside is for him to say he cannot change Washington period.

It's that sort of unforced error I've talked about this week. Obama just handed Mitt Romney a way to change the topic and go onto the offensive, at least at his own rallies and appearances.

This is, of course, a total misreading of what Obama said. It's clear that what he meant was that the people have to keep the pressure on the Washington insiders to make the changes they want made.

It won't stop Romney from trying to take it out of context and use it in the way you suggest, but we know he's an unprincipled son of a bitch. You should at least try to be better than that.

323 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 9:02:23pm

re: #321 Gus

Perhaps and I could see that working. He was speaking metaphorically though and it is true. Look at the Tea Party ascension. That was not from the inside.

True, but Romney's reply using the line more literally was a fair move. And the Tea Party's rise works against Obama, for he touted his health care bill in that part of his interview and the Tea Party mobilized to block it.

So on this one, the GOP can at least attack from ground that will not sink under it.

324 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 9:08:58pm

re: #296 Dark_Falcon

Lefty that I am, I am fully in your camp on this issue. I am a vet. Thank God I have not needed to depend on the Hell On Earth that is the VA. Our nation has pissed on every vet who has served since 1946, just some more than others. I am so goddamn tired of TP/GOP chicken hawk telling me "It's Raining" but the reality is that that treasonous bastard Grover has scared all politicians from being willing to advocate for the appropriate level of taxation to build the kind of nation Americans want to live in.

The men and women I worked with, who fought for, and many died for, this nation are laughed at by Norquest & Romney.

That is why I say as a patriot I will vote for Obama. Fuck those bastards.

325 Origuy  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 9:43:07pm

re: #267 engineer cat

"welcome to kenya", with "translation" into the arabic alphabet

Snopes has the story on this. The sign is actually in Oman, with entirely different contents. The Arabic writing under "Kenya" is backwards, but spells "Hawaii". The writing under "Welcome to" says "Paul is dead".

326 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 9:57:14pm

re: #325 Origuy

Snopes has the story on this. The sign is actually in Oman, with entirely different contents. The Arabic writing under "Kenya" is backwards, but spells "Hawaii". The writing under "Welcome to" says "Paul is dead".

And if you come in at the port of Mombassa, the Arabic writing translates as "And I am the walrus." :D

327 Patricia Kayden  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 6:11:05am

When will the Righties figure out that the things that outrage them mean nothing to the majority of Americans? Everyone doesn't read the Drudge Report or watch Fox News. Everyone doesn't hate President Obama.

Seems like President Obama is so clean that the Righties cannot find even one scandal to use against him. Poor thangs.

328 Jymn  Sat, Sep 22, 2012 11:53:37am

I see Mark Steyn's joined in the flag outrage. Hehe.


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