Ann Romney to Critics: ‘Stop It. This Is Hard. Americans Are Lucky to Have Mitt.’

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Ann Romney is turning into a parody of a super-wealthy socialite — defensive, brittle, and unable to deal with criticism: Ann Romney to GOP Critics: ‘Stop It. This Is Hard.’

“Stop it. This is hard. You want to try it? Get in the ring,” she said. “This is hard and, you know, it’s an important thing that we’re doing right now and it’s an important election and it is time for all Americans to realize how significant this election is and how lucky we are to have someone with Mitt’s qualifications and experience and know-how to be able to have the opportunity to run this country.”

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274 comments
1 SpaceJesus  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:25:24pm

Hard? You mean like running the country?

2 dragonfire1981  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:27:14pm

You'd think a couple of wealthy people like the Romneys could afford some culture lessons or take a few public speaking classes or similar.

I mean it just really stuns me how much they've absolutely failed to connect with the common voter.

I have to wonder if you strip away all of the Romney voters who are merely voting for him because he's NOT Obama how much you'd be left with.

3 Destro  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:27:38pm

I guess rich people find doing real work hard.

See:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Mitt Romney is one lazy rich guy: He has been holding fewer public campaign events than John McCain did
Mitt Romney's sparse campaign schedule worries some Republicans

4 Obdicut  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:27:41pm

I feel bad for her now.

5 Targetpractice  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:27:48pm

Remember when she was supposed to be the Romney campaign's secret weapon? Their big asset because she was a woman and mother and she could connect to the average voter?

6 makeitstop  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:28:27pm

How so many Americans hate Michelle Obama's warm personality and intelligence and want this....harridan as First Lady, I will never figure out.

She can't open her damn mouth without sounding like she's scolding the maid for not turning down the bedclothes properly.

7 AK-47%  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:29:30pm

In the end, she leaves us with the feeling that he is running because he feels entitled to. And now he is a victim of their criticism...

Why does this all ring a bell?

8 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:29:38pm

re: #6 makeitstop

How so many Americans hate Michelle Obama;s warm personality and intelligence and want this....harridan as First Lady, I will never figure out.

(whispering)
Psst, over here.

Ann Romney isn't bee-ell-ay-see-kay.

9 tomg51spence  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:29:46pm

I can't tell if it's whiny without audio - the second part could have been assertive.

10 Lidane  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:30:07pm

Shorter Ann Romney:

Youtube Video
11 dragonfire1981  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:30:35pm

re: #8 Our Precious Bodily Fluids

(whispering)
Psst, over here.

Ann Romney isn't bee-ell-ay-see-kay.

Ok it actually took me a minute to get that I'm ashamed to say.

12 darthstar  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:30:48pm

She's an asshole.

Oh, and watch this PSA from Sarah Silverman.

Youtube Video
13 Kragar  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:31:21pm

LEAVE MITTNEY ALONE!

14 Obdicut  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:31:28pm

See, I don't want to beat her up on this. To me, it sounds like a sincere plea from someone who idolizes her husband. I think the Romney campaign shouldn't put her out in public because this is asking too much of her to deal with.

15 HappyWarrior  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:31:43pm

Lucky to have Mitt Romney? Okay............

16 Kragar  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:31:47pm

re: #12 darthstar

She's an asshole.

Oh, and watch this PSA from Sarah Silverman.

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I would like to do dirty, dirty, dirty things with Sarah.

17 Gus  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:32:05pm

re: #13 Kragar

LEAVE MITTNEY ALONE!

Image: tumblr_l60x9k1niu1qze5g2o1_500.gif

18 Targetpractice  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:32:58pm

re: #6 makeitstop

How so many Americans hate Michelle Obama's warm personality and intelligence and want this....harridan as First Lady, I will never figure out.

She can't open her damn mouth without sounding like she's scolding the maid for not turning down the bedclothes properly.

Hey now, she was great in Mommy Dearest...

Youtube Video

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19 SpaceJesus  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:33:39pm

re: #16 Kragar

she is kinda cute in a "i don't know why but she is" kind of way

20 darthstar  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:35:14pm

re: #15 HappyWarrior

Lucky to have Mitt Romney? Okay............

Democrats feel the same way...we're lucky to have Mitt Romney running as the Republican.

21 Kragar  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:35:47pm

Scott Walker Expresses ‘Frustration’ With Romney Campaign

“I thought [picking Ryan] was a signal that [Romney] was getting serious, he’s getting bold, it’s not necessarily even a frustration over the way Paul Ryan’s been used but rather in the larger context. I just haven’t seen that kind of passion I know Paul has transferred over to our nominee, and I think it’s a little bit of push-back from the folks in the national campaign. But I think for him to win he’s gotta [do] that.

“They not only need to use [Ryan] out on the trail more effectively, they need to have more of him rub off on Mitt because I think Mitt thinks that way but he’s gotta be able to articulate that…I think too many people are restraining him from telling [his vision].”

22 SpaceJesus  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:36:11pm

Is it too late to get Herman Cain to be the nominee? I'm bored with the Romney campaign already.

23 HappyWarrior  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:36:35pm

re: #12 darthstar

She's an asshole.

Oh, and watch this PSA from Sarah Silverman.

[Embedded content]

Funny and cute.

24 darthstar  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:36:46pm

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25 AK-47%  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:37:32pm

re: #16 Kragar

I would like to do dirty, dirty, dirty things with Sarah.

she knows that, that's part of her image

26 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:38:05pm

re: #14 Obdicut

See, I don't want to beat her up on this. To me, it sounds like a sincere plea from someone who idolizes her husband. I think the Romney campaign shouldn't put her out in public because this is asking too much of her to deal with.

Sounds like unadulterated narcissism to me. She's making herself the focus of the narrative that she's inventing (that it's so hard -- i.e., vicitmizing -- to voluntarily run for office -- "an important thing that we are doing")

Also:

“It’s nonsense and the chattering class…you hear it and then you just let it go right by,” she told Radio Iowa.

The "chattering class"? She sounds like the fucking Dowager Countess of Grantham.

27 Lidane  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:38:15pm

re: #22 SpaceJesus

Is it too late to get Herman Cain to be the nominee? I'm bored with the Romney campaign already.

Seriously. I almost miss that crazy bastard with his constant harping on his "9-9-9" plan.

28 dragonfire1981  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:38:22pm

Here's Ryan getting booed at AARP:

Youtube Video
30 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:38:25pm

re: #19 SpaceJesus

she is kinda cute in a "i don't know why but she is" kind of way

She's winking just for you.

31 engineer cat  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:38:43pm

if you think this is hard, lady, just imagine how hard it would be actually being president

32 Targetpractice  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:38:43pm

re: #21 Kragar

Scott Walker Expresses ‘Frustration’ With Romney Campaign

Yet another Republican expressing that the biggest problem with Mitt Romney is that...well...he's Mitt Romney.

33 Gus  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:39:00pm

"...I don't pay more than are legally due and frankly if I had paid more than are legally due I don't think I'd be qualified to become president..."

34 dragonfire1981  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:39:10pm

re: #27 Lidane

Seriously. I almost miss that crazy bastard with his constant harping on his "9-9-9" plan.

And the smoking guy in the video. Gotta have the smoking guy.

35 AK-47%  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:39:29pm

re: #19 SpaceJesus

she is kinda cute in a "i don't know why but she is" kind of way

because she is that sweet, cute girl who lets you take her out behind the shed and do dirty things with her

36 Kragar  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:39:44pm

"Why is our nominee such a dick?"

37 Targetpractice  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:40:09pm

re: #31 engineer cat

if you think this is hard, lady, just imagine how hard it would be actually being president

No shit, you think people are mean to Willard now, wait til he gets into office. You think all that shit ya'll are heaping up on President Obama's head is not gonna be atop yours in 4 years?

38 HappyWarrior  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:41:20pm

The cannibalization of Mitt has already begun. Really makes me wonder what he's going to do should he lose.

39 Tigger2  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:41:24pm

I guess Ryan tanked at the AARP I hear a lot of boos.....And where was his God Bless America at the end of his speech.

Youtube Video
40 Charles Johnson  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:41:40pm

Wow, the electoral map is really looking bad for Mitt.

[Link: elections.huffingtonpost.com...]

41 lawhawk  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:41:55pm

If you can't handle the crucible of the campaign, then you certainly can't handle the weight of the White House. Sorry, but I have no empathy for Ann when she complains about the campaign or that taking Mitt at his word means that he's really not a nice guy.

But I do get the whole "you're lucky to have 'em" schtick. You've got to have a huge ego to even contemplate a run for the WH. It takes a certain kind of person to think that they can be the most powerful person on the planet.

The campaigns whittle that down, and not for Mitt's advantage either.

42 darthstar  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:41:56pm

re: #28 dragonfire1981

Here's Ryan getting booed at AARP:

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Not just booed, but booed repeatedly.

43 Charles Johnson  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:42:36pm

Obama's more than 100 electoral votes ahead. I don't see any way Romney will be able to bridge that gap.

44 darthstar  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:42:44pm

re: #39 Tigger2

I guess Ryan tanked at the AARP I hear a lot of boos.....And where was his God Bless America at the end of his speech.

[Embedded content]

Ryan says, "You don't have to take my word for it." Obviously, they don't.

45 darthstar  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:43:03pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

Obama's more than 100 electoral votes ahead. I don't see any way Romney will be able to bridge that gap.

From your post to god's ears.

46 engineer cat  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:43:18pm

Ryan getting booed at AARP

priceless

he deserves it so much

47 calochortus  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:43:39pm

re: #40 Charles Johnson

Wow, the electoral map is really looking bad for Mitt.

[Link: elections.huffingtonpost.com...]

That's a nice, pretty map...

48 darthstar  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:43:52pm

re: #46 engineer cat

Ryan getting booed at AARP

priceless

he deserves it so much

He hasn't been booed that much since he got home early from work one day.

49 Targetpractice  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:43:54pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

Obama's more than 100 electoral votes ahead. I don't see any way Romney will be able to bridge that gap.

But...but...the University of Colorado at Boulder has two professors who says he'll win 320-218 over Obama!!!

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50 lawhawk  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:44:08pm

re: #40 Charles Johnson

Nate's analysis isn't any better for Mitt (either the now-cast or the nov6-cast).

51 HappyWarrior  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:44:38pm

re: #40 Charles Johnson

Wow, the electoral map is really looking bad for Mitt.

[Link: elections.huffingtonpost.com...]

Romney's problem is outside of Indiana, there really is no state that went for Obama last time that he's guaranteed to get this time. He needs a lot to go right for him and equally amount to go wrong for Obama.

52 danarchy  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:44:43pm

re: #38 HappyWarrior

The cannibalization of Mitt has already begun. Really makes me wonder what he's going to do should he lose.

Probably go home and go for a swim in his money vault...

He is 65 and fabulously wealthy, If I were him I would retire, slide out of the spotlight and enjoy watching my grandchildren grow up. Maybe go back and do all that Bishopy stuff for his church if he needs to do something to feel more fulfilled.

53 SpaceJesus  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:44:50pm

stay classy, fox news

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

54 Gus  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:45:26pm

re: #53 SpaceJesus

stay classy, fox news

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Desperation.

55 Lidane  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:45:59pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

Obama's more than 100 electoral votes ahead. I don't see any way Romney will be able to bridge that gap.

The graph is just like the polls -- WRONG! Everyone knows those are just lamestream media lies! Eleventy!

Or something. I'm still waiting for the new set of talking points to start making the rounds.

56 SpaceJesus  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:46:10pm

i wonder if murdoch wrote that piece himself

57 Kragar  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:47:17pm

Just remember, Rush keeps saying that only by picking the most Conservative candidate will the GOP be able to win elections.

Obviously Mitt just isn't conservative enough.

58 Mattand  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:48:08pm

re: #14 Obdicut

See, I don't want to beat her up on this. To me, it sounds like a sincere plea from someone who idolizes her husband. I think the Romney campaign shouldn't put her out in public because this is asking too much of her to deal with.

I don't think she's doing this against her will. And I do agree with you she loves Mitt very much.

But you know what? Tough shit for Ann. I've complained about this before. Part of the reason she's out front is that when she gets criticized, conservatives can fall back on the "libruls are the real anti-woman bigots" meme.

It also looks like Ann has even thinner skin than her husband. Look at all the intensely racist abuse Michelle Obama and her husband endure, and she is the epitome of poise and grace.

And Ann Romney's response to criticism of her husband is to tell us we're lucky he sullied himself to even run for President?

Fuck. That. It's only going to get worse from here on out, Ann. You're playing in the big leagues now. Grow a fucking thicker skin or go the hell home.

59 Lidane  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:48:21pm
60 HappyWarrior  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:48:26pm

re: #57 Kragar

Just remember, Rush keeps saying that only by picking the most Conservative candidate will the GOP be able to win elections.

Obviously Mitt just isn't conservative enough.

That's what we'll hear if Mitt loses. Meaning that they won't learn a damn thing and we could potentially end up with nominee Santorum or Ryan in 2016 if the GOP continues to do their next in line thing they've been doing since 1980.

61 dragonfire1981  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:49:33pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

Obama's more than 100 electoral votes ahead. I don't see any way Romney will be able to bridge that gap.

Not that I'm a huge Romney fan but I still believe a lot could happen between now and November. Gas prices spike, stock market slowdown, foreign crisis, etc.

I don't want to give the Romney campaign much credit, but I suspect they have one or two aces in their sleeve they're going to try and use to shift things.

My fear though is that Romney will indeed go down in flames in November and people disappointed in that will respond...possibly with force.

62 Tigger2  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:49:42pm

re: #57 Kragar

Just remember, Rush keeps saying that only by picking the most Conservative candidate will the GOP be able to win elections.

Obviously Mitt just isn't conservative enough.

It sure can't be that Americans just don't like their policies, it has to be they didn't nominate a crazy enough Candidate.

63 Lidane  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:50:35pm

re: #60 HappyWarrior

That's what we'll hear if Mitt loses. Meaning that they won't learn a damn thing and we could potentially end up with nominee Santorum or Ryan in 2016 if the GOP continues to do their next in line thing they've been doing since 1980.

Ryan will have the stench of a loser all over him if the polls hold up and Mitt gets slaughtered. No way will he be the nominee in 2016.

If the teabaggers demand an even more conservative nominee next time around, I'd expect Santorum to run again. I'd also expect Huckabee to make a run for it, and possibly Rubio and Christie.

64 Mattand  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:50:38pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

Obama's more than 100 electoral votes ahead. I don't see any way Romney will be able to bridge that gap.

Counting chicks before they hatch, and what not. Don't discount the inherit stupidity of the American voting public.

65 Kragar  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:52:08pm

Image: romtax_uni.jpg

"ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?!"

66 Lidane  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:52:11pm
67 HappyWarrior  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:52:23pm

re: #63 Lidane

Ryan will have the stench of a loser all over him if the polls hold up and Mitt gets slaughtered. No way will he be the nominee in 2016.

If the teabaggers demand an even more conservative nominee next time around, I'd expect Santorum to run again. I'd also expect Huckabee to make a run for it, and possibly Rubio and Christie.

Yeah you're right. Santorum's in trouble if Huckabee runs if you ask me. The Evangelicals will go to Huckabee over him.

68 mr.fusion  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:52:33pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

Obama's more than 100 electoral votes ahead. I don't see any way Romney will be able to bridge that gap.

Clearly you haven't seen the 14 year old video where Obama uses the word "redistribution"

69 AK-47%  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:52:46pm

re: #57 Kragar

Just remember, Rush keeps saying that only by picking the most Conservative candidate will the GOP be able to win elections.

Obviously Mitt just isn't conservative enough.

That will become a major talking point the day after Mitt loses the election. And they had a point. Problem was, they could not find a candidate who was consistently conservative and not a frigging nut job.

Because being a True Conservative these days means being a full-on nut case.

70 darthstar  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:52:48pm
71 Gus  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:52:53pm

re: #66 Lidane

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Rush is concern trolling. L.O.L.

72 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:53:21pm

re: #53 SpaceJesus

stay classy, fox news

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

73 engineer cat  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:54:06pm

utterly off thread, but does anybody know the name for this: words with exactly the same spelling, but different meanings depending on how it is pronounced, e.g.

polish - 'from poland' or 'cleaner used to make something shiny'?

lead - 'leader' or 'heavy metal'?

74 darthstar  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:54:06pm

re: #72 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

More inconceivable than a Romney kid.

75 ShaunP  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:54:17pm

re: #70 darthstar

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I hadn't even thought about that. He can refile and get that million back. FnA...

76 HappyWarrior  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:54:30pm

Rush sounds more like Alex Jones every day. First the dick size comment and now this? Is he really suggesting that Bush or McCain wouldn't have taken pride in getting OBL? And besides the Obama bragged thing is so stupid anyhow. Some of the rwnj's wanted OBL's body paraded through the streets.

77 Kragar  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:54:31pm

re: #67 HappyWarrior

Yeah you're right. Santorum's in trouble if Huckabee runs if you ask me. The Evangelicals will go to Huckabee over him.

2 words for Huck: Wayne Dumond

78 AK-47%  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:55:06pm

re: #61 dragonfire1981

Not that I'm a huge Romney fan but I still believe a lot could happen between now and November. Gas prices spike, stock market slowdown, foreign crisis, etc.

I don't want to give the Romney campaign much credit, but I suspect they have one or two aces in their sleeve they're going to try and use to shift things.

My fear though is that Romney will indeed go down in flames in November and people disappointed in that will respond...possibly with force.

That post deserves at least three updings for all three points you made. And I fear that things will get ugly after Obama starts his second term, a spike in militias, sovereign-citizens and fringe groups. Ugly reporting and an adolescent refusal on the part of a lot of people to simply obey any laws they don't feel like obeying.

79 darthstar  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:55:22pm

re: #73 engineer cat

utterly off thread, but does anybody know the name for this: words with exactly the same spelling, but different meanings depending on how it is pronounced, e.g.

polish - 'from poland' or 'cleaner used to make something shiny'?

lead - 'leader' or 'heavy metal'?

Homographs.

80 Lidane  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:55:31pm

re: #71 Gus

Rush is concern trolling. L.O.L.

Speaking of trolling, Louie Gohmert opened his pie hole again:

81 Ming  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:55:32pm

What Ann Romney said is pretty much the entire message of the Romney / Ryan campaign: "you'll be lucky to have us in office, we're producers not parasites, makers not takers. What will we do, specifically? We won't tell right now. But you'll find out. And when you do, you'll know how lucky you are to have two such productive, intelligent, and bold people in power."

This isn't surprising. As a business takeover artist, Romney no doubt was used to changing his sales pitch, his plans for a company, on a moment's notice. I suppose it's not that different from being a consultant in other areas. You emphasize something for one client, and something else for a second client. You have no core position that applies to all clients.

82 HappyWarrior  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:55:46pm

re: #77 Kragar

2 words for Huck: Wayne Dumond

Yeah he'll be hit on that no doubt but Huck if he runs and the other three named are his main competition, he will be the candidate for the Evangelicals.

83 Kragar  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:56:01pm

re: #73 engineer cat

utterly off thread, but does anybody know the name for this: words with exactly the same spelling, but different meanings depending on how it is pronounced, e.g.

polish - 'from poland' or 'cleaner used to make something shiny'?

lead - 'leader' or 'heavy metal'?

Homonyms?

84 engineer cat  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:56:30pm

re: #67 HappyWarrior

Yeah you're right. Santorum's in trouble if Huckabee runs if you ask me. The Evangelicals will go to Huckabee over him.

i think ryan and christie will be the favorites going in. i don't see huckabee or santorum wanting to run again

ever year, the gop runs a greater and greater risk of splitting in two, and the Giant Mitt Disaster is just pushing that process along

85 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:56:32pm

re: #73 engineer cat

utterly off thread, but does anybody know the name for this: words with exactly the same spelling, but different meanings depending on how it is pronounced, e.g.

polish - 'from poland' or 'cleaner used to make something shiny'?

lead - 'leader' or 'heavy metal'?

Those are heteronyms, which are a subset of homographs.

86 HappyWarrior  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:56:43pm

re: #80 Lidane

Speaking of trolling, Louie Gohmert opened his pie hole again:

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Obama's building a second Ottoman empire? Does that mean Doner [Link: en.wikipedia.org...] will become more popular in this country?

87 engineer cat  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:57:06pm

re: #79 darthstar

Homographs.

ah!

88 AK-47%  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:57:25pm

re: #79 darthstar

Homographs.

which are threatening the English language!

89 Mattand  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:57:36pm

re: #54 Gus

Desperation.

Looks like the denizens on Bullshit Mountain are regaining their footing.

90 darthstar  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:57:49pm

re: #79 darthstar

Homographs.

Homonym - same sound (deer, dear, red, read and read, reed)
Homograph - same spelling but different sound.

91 HappyWarrior  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:58:11pm

re: #84 engineer cat

i think ryan and christie will be the favorites going in. i don't see huckabee or santorum wanting to run again

ever year, the gop runs a greater and greater risk of splitting in two, and the Giant Mitt Disaster is just pushing that process along

I don't know about Ryan but I can't see Christie being that popular in early states like Iowa and South Carolina. His image is more based off his image as Mr. angry Republican than having done. I think his opponents will have a field day with some of the more "liberal" things Christie has done. I can totally see one of them trying to make an issue out of Christie appointing a Muslim to the NJ bench. Plus I think Christie is too "urban" for an increasingly rural GOP. IF that makes any sense. I think Rudy had the same problem. Though Christie differs from Rudy on issues like guns, abortion, and gays.

92 Mattand  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:58:35pm

re: #61 dragonfire1981

My fear though is that Romney will indeed go down in flames in November and people disappointed in that will respond...possibly with force.

I used to think that was concern trolling, but given the people I know who genuinely believe Obama is Stalin incarnate, I don't dismiss that speculation as easily as I used to.

And besides, what could possibly go wrong in a country with an appalling record on race and a frightening overabundance of firearms?

93 darthstar  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:59:46pm

re: #88 AK-47%

which are threatening the English language!

Thank you...somebody had to say it.

94 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:00:09pm

re: #90 darthstar

Homonym - same sound (deer, dear, red, read and read, reed)
Homograph - same spelling but different sound.

Actually homographs can have the same sound. They're still homographs as long as there are separate, unrelated meanings.

If homographs have different sounds, then they're also heteronyms.

95 Gus  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:00:13pm
96 AK-47%  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:00:19pm

re: #89 Mattand

Looks like the denizens on Bullshit Mountain are regaining their footing.re: #61 dragonfire1981

I used to think that was concern trolling, but given the people I know who genuinely believe Obama is Stalin incarnate, I don't dismiss that speculation as easily as I used to.

And besides, what could possibly go wrong in a country with an appalling record on race and a frightening overabundance of firearms?

My concern is what things could look like in some areas if there is a major natural/man-made disaster of some sort that paralyzes the infrastructure and requires the President to send in troops to stabilize the situation...things could wind up looking like Somalia, with militiamen in pickups out firing at everything they find suspicious....

97 Kragar  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:00:26pm

My daughter was asking about words spelled the same but with different meanings

I had to mess with her.

"I wound the bandage around wound, but I made sure there was no wind when I went to wind it."

I also tormented her by getting the pheasant plucker rhyme stuck in her head.

98 Mattand  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:00:37pm

re: #91 HappyWarrior

I don't know about Ryan but I can't see Christie being that popular in early states like Iowa and South Carolina. His image is more based off his image as Mr. angry Republican than having done. I think his opponents will have a field day with some of the more "liberal" things Christie has done. I can totally see one of them trying to make an issue out of Christie appointing a Muslim to the NJ bench.

You watch. My dear gov will quickly embrace his inner wingunt. Guarantee you he will start backpedaling from said "liberal" actions he's taken within the year.

99 Lidane  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:00:50pm
100 darthstar  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:01:22pm

re: #94 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

Actually homographs can have the same sound. They're still homographs as long as there are separate, unrelated meanings.

If homographs have different sounds, then they're also heteronyms.

Good point.

101 allegro  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:01:22pm

re: #94 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

Actually homographs can have the same sound. They're still homographs as long as there are separate, unrelated meanings.

If homographs have different sounds, then they're also heteronyms.

This whole conversation is so gay.

//

102 HappyWarrior  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:01:28pm

re: #98 Mattand

You watch. My dear gov will quickly embrace his inner wingunt. Guarantee you he will start backpedaling from said "liberal" actions he's taken within the year.

Of course, he'll backpedal but will he be able to get away with it with GOP primary voters and how hard will his opponents hit him on it?

103 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:02:23pm

re: #101 allegro

This whole conversation is so gay.

//

Not so! My nyms are all hetero.

104 engineer cat  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:03:42pm

re: #94 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

Actually homographs can have the same sound. They're still homographs as long as there are separate, unrelated meanings.

If homographs have different sounds, then they're also heteronyms.

heteronyms - thanks

say it in greek!
homographs - written the same
heteronyms - different names

an optometrist (eye measurer) once told me i needed reading glasses because i was developing 'presbyopia' - you can't fool me, that just means 'old people's eye'

105 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:03:53pm

re: #38 HappyWarrior

The cannibalization of Mitt has already begun. Really makes me wonder what he's going to do should he lose.

He'll go into standby mode until 2016. Then they'll reformat his data partition, reset all the configs to default, and wheel him out again as if 2012 never happened.

106 Mattand  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:04:45pm

re: #102 HappyWarrior

Of course, he'll backpedal but will he be able to get away with it with GOP primary voters and how hard will his opponents hit him on it?

Look at how hard the clown car denizens hit Romney and he survived.

Plus, if Mitt goes down in flames, Christie has already established himself as a tough talking no-nonsense conservative. The press he gets on Fox News doesn't hurt either.

107 darthstar  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:05:24pm

Just heard the audio of Ann Romney saying "Stop it." and saying how lucky we are to have Romney as a candidate. She sounds bitter.

108 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:06:12pm

re: #86 HappyWarrior

Obama's building a second Ottoman empire? Does that mean Doner [Link: en.wikipedia.org...] will become more popular in this country?

Laws will be passed required "gyro" to be pronounced correctly.
;)

And all will praise the wonder of good dolma.

109 Sionainn  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:07:09pm

re: #4 Obdicut

I feel bad for her now.

Not me.

110 allegro  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:07:27pm

re: #105 Our Precious Bodily Fluids

He'll go into standby mode until 2016. Then they'll reformat his data partition, reset all the configs to default, and wheel him out again as if 2012 never happened.

For everyone's sake he needs to retire... quietly... verrrry quietly. I'm embarrassed for the guy and his wife almost daily to the point where I'm almost feeling sorry for them for being so stupid, lacking in empathy, and out of touch with reality. That's almost. I'm mostly embarrassed that this is the best that one of the two major parties in the county I live in can do.

112 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:09:15pm

re: #106 Mattand

Plus, if Mitt goes down in flames, Christie has already established himself as a tough talking no-nonsense conservative. The press he gets on Fox News doesn't hurt either.

But will he release his tax returns cholesterol numbers?

113 HappyWarrior  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:10:10pm

re: #106 Mattand

Look at how hard the clown car denizens hit Romney and he survived.

Plus, if Mitt goes down in flames, Christie has already established himself as a tough talking no-nonsense conservative. The press he gets on Fox News doesn't hurt either.

True, you raise good points but I think Mitt had an advantage by being "next in line", remember he was the runner up four years ago in the primary then. Anyhow, I think a lot depends on Christie's re-election campaign in 2013. I also think McDonnell will be running and likewise a lot will depend on that election even if he due to our silly term limit law isn't running.

114 A Mom Anon  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:10:49pm

re: #107 darthstar

To me she sounds pissed off that someone just hasn't handed over the keys to the White House right now. That she and her vewwy special husband even have to answer even one damned question. We're just lucky that they're running for anything and we should just be grateful that Mitt decided to grace us with his superior intellect and talents.

I've met people like her,she can kiss my lily white ass. Let her live on a REAL freaking budget that's half of what she got to write off for her dancing show pony. Then she can complain how hard things are.

115 engineer cat  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:11:07pm

Matthews: 'Get Ready For The Worst' as GOP Makes Last Gasp Attempt To Defeat Obama

is it possible for the lying and thinly veiled racism to get even worse??

116 efuseakay  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:11:22pm

Wow... if she thinks it's hard campaigning for the Presidency...

Words. Fail. Me.

(not really)

117 Sionainn  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:11:23pm

re: #28 dragonfire1981

Here's Ryan getting booed at AARP:

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Ryan looks like he's wearing his daddy's clothes.

118 Gus  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:11:27pm

By Monday everyone will forget about Mitt's tax returns.

//

119 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:12:30pm

my god Ron Christie is such a douche nozzle.

120 Lidane  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:12:44pm
121 darthstar  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:13:40pm

re: #114 A Mom Anon

To me she sounds pissed off that someone just hasn't handed over the keys to the White House right now. That she and her vewwy special husband even have to answer even one damned question. We're just lucky that they're running for anything and we should just be grateful that Mitt decided to grace us with his superior intellect and talents.

I've met people like her,she can kiss my lily white ass. Let her live on a REAL freaking budget that's half of what she got to write off for her dancing show pony. Then she can complain how hard things are.

I'm worried they'll see the White House as a tear down if they get their hands on it.

122 HappyWarrior  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:14:35pm

re: #114 A Mom Anon

To me she sounds pissed off that someone just hasn't handed over the keys to the White House right now. That she and her vewwy special husband even have to answer even one damned question. We're just lucky that they're running for anything and we should just be grateful that Mitt decided to grace us with his superior intellect and talents.

I've met people like her,she can kiss my lily white ass. Let her live on a REAL freaking budget that's half of what she got to write off for her dancing show pony. Then she can complain how hard things are.

That's how it's coming across to me as well. Really, I have little doubt that running for president is stressful but it's a luxury that they signed up for and for her to act like we should just be grateful for Mitt is just nauseating. He's not running out of the altruism of his heart and if she thinks we're dumb enough to actually think that then I got a bridge to sell her.

123 lawhawk  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:16:21pm

re: #86 HappyWarrior

Shish! /

Seriously, Obama's pursuing a new Ottoman Empire. What does that even mean?

From Gohmer's fevered statements:

Gohmert was speaking on the House floor, where he accused the Obama administration of pulling out of Iraq after victory had been won, and allowing Iran to better influence Iraq. He said withdrawing means less American influence there, and said the results of that decision are already being seen in some of the attacks on U.S. diplomatic outposts in the Middle East and North Africa.


"This is the beginning… a massive beginning of a new Ottoman Empire that President Obama can take great credit for," Gohmert said. "Thank you President Barack Hussein Obama. This will be quite a legacy for you.

"And I'm not one of those who says he's not a Christian. All I know is that's between him and God. But what I do know is he has helped jump start a new Ottoman Empire, and left our friend and ally Israel so vulnerable in this sea of radicalism that he has helped bring to the surface."

Oh, so because we've got regime change underway and Iran's trying to exploit the situation that suddenly means a new Ottoman Empire. Heck, Turkey's in a better position to return to the Ottoman Empire - they're not facing sanctions, they have a modern military, and they are the heirs to the original Ottoman Empire.

Fact is that the Middle East is quite factionalized and Egypt, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, the Gulf states, and Iran are all racing to try and gain advantages over the other. No different than it has been for decades. We just have new players on the leadership in Egypt and upheaval is opening up a potential for new economic and sociopolitical improvements in the region.

But hardly a new or Second Ottoman Empire.

Someone better go and refresh their history and knowledge of the Middle East.

124 darthstar  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:16:23pm

re: #118 Gus

By Monday everyone will forget about Mitt's tax returns.

//

Everyone's already at the point where they don't give a shit about his tax returns. If he'd not wanted them to be an issue, he would have released them during the GOP primaries and let them run their course. Now no matter what he says about them, or what he shows, it'll just be seen as damage control. He's not going to win a single vote with his tax release. Not one. That ship sailed months ago.

125 Jolo5309  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:16:49pm

re: #107 darthstar

Just heard the audio of Ann Romney saying "Stop it." and saying how lucky we are to have Romney as a candidate. She sounds bitter.

I read this part

Stop it. This is hard. You want to try it?

and thought she was talking dirty and my respect for her went up.

126 Targetpractice  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:17:47pm

re: #124 darthstar

Everyone's already at the point where they don't give a shit about his tax returns. If he'd not wanted them to be an issue, he would have released them during the GOP primaries and let them run their course. Now no matter what he says about them, or what he shows, it'll just be seen as damage control. He's not going to win a single vote with his tax release. Not one. That ship sailed months ago.

He long passed the point where releasing them could help his campaign chances. Now, the best he can do is to hope that enough are "satisfied" that the issue is quietly dropped.

127 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:19:22pm

re: #110 allegro

I'm mostly embarrassed that this is the best that one of the two major parties in the county I live in can do.

Thing is, it's not the best they can do. It's the best they did. I am reasonably sure that there are enough intelligent policy-oriented conservatives out there to sustain a Republican party that is not made up solely of deranged lunatics, fanatical Ayn Rand anarcho-capitalists, smarmy serial panderers, blatant racists, or reality show personalities with embarrassingly bad hair.

It would be nice if the GOP quit bowing to its loudest, dumbest voices. This will happen approximately half past never.

128 Patricia Kayden  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:19:47pm

Of course it's hard for Lady Ann to listen to you people disparaging her bozo husband. Thank goodnes that her suffering will be over in 1.5 months. And then she can go back to her houses with car garages.

129 allegro  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:19:58pm

re: #126 Targetpractice

He long passed the point where releasing them could help his campaign chances. Now, the best he can do is to hope that enough are "satisfied" that the issue is quietly dropped.

Have any actual journalists asked him why he required 10 years of Ryan's returns for vetting him for VP?

130 Targetpractice  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:20:30pm

re: #129 allegro

Have any actual journalists asked him why he required 10 years of Ryan's returns for vetting him for VP?

None that I know of, which is rather amusing when you consider the whine that the press is beating up on him so much.

131 darthstar  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:20:50pm

re: #126 Targetpractice

He long passed the point where releasing them could help his campaign chances. Now, the best he can do is to hope that enough are "satisfied" that the issue is quietly dropped.

Yep...he thought he could stop this from hurting his campaign by waiting until the last moment...but all he's doing is calling more negative attention to himself when it has the least chance of dissipating before the election. It's a good thing Clint Eastwood talked to that chair instead of Mitt...he probably would have answered, "Oh, I fuck myself every day..."

132 wrenchwench  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:21:11pm
133 Big Steve  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:21:38pm

re: #6 makeitstop

want this....harridan as First Lady,

I must say that I find using this sexist term on candidate Romney's wife objectionable. This site has always maintained, from day one, disgust for the racist and sexist terms used on Michelle Obama and I believe we should accord the same to Mrs Romney. Argue with her points...knock yourself out....but leave off the personal attacks.

134 Targetpractice  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:23:47pm

re: #131 darthstar

Yep...he thought he could stop this from hurting his campaign by waiting until the last moment...but all he's doing is calling more negative attention to himself when it has the least chance of dissipating before the election. It's a good thing Clint Eastwood talked to that chair instead of Mitt...he probably would have answered, "Oh, I fuck myself every day..."

If anything, a Friday news dump is probably going to actually hurt him. Give the press time to pour over the '11 return as well as the other documentation, then get his ass on Monday with lots of questions as to why he just dumped this shit and ran.

135 Kronocide  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:23:59pm

re: #132 wrenchwench

I laugh at white people too.

136 ShaunP  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:24:07pm

Because LOL:

137 Big Steve  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:24:39pm

re: #123 lawhawk

Shish! /

Seriously, Obama's pursuing a new Ottoman

I have a new Ottoman in my living room.

138 darthstar  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:25:51pm

re: #135 Kronocide

I laugh at white people too.

I was going to say that, but I was too busy laughing at myself (a white person) for even thinkng about it.

139 HappyWarrior  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:26:22pm

re: #136 ShaunP

Because LOL:

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Nah Biden just shoots his own foot. Kidding around since I think Biden's good at what he does and isn't the idiot he's made out to be by his detractors. Still love how pissed they got when he said big fucking deal because guess what he was right, it was a big fucking deal considering that the health care bill was something Dem presidents since FDR have been trying to accomplish.

140 Gus  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:27:25pm
142 Kronocide  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:28:38pm

re: #138 darthstar

I was going to say that, but I was too busy laughing at myself (a white person) for even thinkng about it.

STOP IT. THIS IS HARD.

SITIH

143 Targetpractice  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:28:52pm

re: #140 Gus

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I'd believe it.

144 Mattand  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:29:20pm

re: #140 Gus

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Don't make me trash your preferences.

145 HappyWarrior  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:29:26pm

re: #140 Gus

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Our Steve who art in heaven, Jobs be thy name, thy iPod come as earth as it is in heaven.

146 efuseakay  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:30:25pm

re: #140 Gus

IPHONE FIVEZZZZZZZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(Love mine, actually... lol)

147 gwangung  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:31:39pm

re: #140 Gus

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Dude, I'm an Apple fanboy, but I laughed my ass off at that.

148 Kragar  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:31:40pm

Alabama GOP Chair Goes Birther, Says Obama’s Communist Upbringing ‘Verified’

Speaking to a group of GOP diehards on Wednesday in Fairhope, Ala., party Chair Bill Armistead raved about a film called “Dreams From My Real Father.” The movie claims President Obama’s grandfather was a CIA agent who convinced Barack Obama Sr. to marry his teenage daughter to hide the fact that she’d been secretly impregnated by a communist.

The Mobile Press-Register reported that Armistead’s comments came after he was asked by someone in the group about another film, “2016: Obama’s Presidency,” which also weaves elaborate theories about the president’s upbringing.

“If you haven’t seen it, you should,” Armistead said, according to the newspaper. “But I’m going to tell you about another movie. The name of it is ‘Dreams From My Real Father.’ That is absolutely frightening. I’ve seen it. I verified that it is factual, all of it.”

149 Gus  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:33:01pm

re: #147 gwangung

Dude, I'm an Apple fanboy, but I laughed my ass off at that.

Now we need to work up a Coexist bumper sticker with Apple and MS in there somehow. Probably can't work considering the letters.

150 Locker  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:33:13pm

Yea the guy who's wife has to jump in for him and say "Stop picking on my husband!" will be hella tough when it comes to foreign policy.

151 Mattand  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:33:42pm

re: #145 HappyWarrior

Our Steve who art in heaven, Jobs be thy name, thy iPod come as earth as it is in heaven.

Even as a long time Apple customer and proponent, I still get skeeved by the amount of people who still feel the need to zealously proselytize and defend a billion-plus dollar corporation.

152 Gus  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:33:50pm

Cripes, Gohmert is such an idiot.

153 darthstar  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:34:09pm

Alex Castellanos (former Romney advisor) on the tax dump:

"At first I thought this was an April Fool's Joke," said Castellanos, who tweeted something to that effect at me earlier. "But it isn't April. I can't imagine that David Axelrod will now say, I'm glad Mitt put this issue behind him. This will drag Mitt's taxes back into the debate. And there's not many days left. I just can't imagine why they would do this. There are 40 days left and you have now made more of them about Mitt's taxes....you don't serve a life sentence and then confess afterward. They've taken their beating on this (already) ... I just don't understand how a (being) 'little pregnant' strategy (works)."

154 HappyWarrior  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:34:24pm

re: #151 Mattand

Even as a long time Apple customer and proponent, I still get skeeved by the amount of people who still feel the need to zealously proselytize and defend a billion-plus dollar corporation.

Heh I know. Only Apple product I still own is my iPod classic. Love that thing.

155 Big Steve  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:35:02pm

re: #140 Gus

The only thing of Apple I own is some of there stock.....bought 200 shares in June 09 at $150/share. Thought I overpaid!!!

156 Targetpractice  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:36:23pm

re: #145 HappyWarrior

Our Steve who art in heaven, Jobs be thy name, thy iPod come as earth as it is in heaven.

Our Steve who art in Heaven
Jobs be thy name
Thy iPhone come
Thy will be done
In the App Store as it is in iTunes
Give us this day our daily updates
And forgive us our data overages
As we forgive those
Who charge us up the ass for them
And lead us not in Android
but deliver us from Flash
For thine is the kingdom,
and the power, and the glory,
forever and ever
Or at least until Google kicks your ass

/yeah, I'm goin to Hell for that one

157 makeitstop  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:36:24pm

re: #107 darthstar

Just heard the audio of Ann Romney saying "Stop it." and saying how lucky we are to have Romney as a candidate. She sounds bitter.

She sounds bitter, and in the stump speech clips I heard from her old man yesterday, he sounds really angry.

I'll bet neither one of them can understand why the American public doesn't love them as much as they do, and it's bugging the piss out of them right now.

158 Patricia Kayden  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:36:25pm

@148 Kragar:

So birtherism is still what Republicans are pushing even though President Obama is up in most of the polls, especially the ones for swing states? If pushing the "Obama is a communist socialist Muslim Kenyan" meme hasn't worked since 2008, what makes it a winning strategy now?
Santorum was correct to point out that the smart people will never vote for them.

159 HappyWarrior  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:36:42pm

re: #148 Kragar

Alabama GOP Chair Goes Birther, Says Obama’s Communist Upbringing ‘Verified’

My head hurts. Good thing I have beer.

160 Decatur Deb  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:37:20pm

The PWC 'absolution' makes the tax release issue more pertinent. If they're all that clean, then why the hell hide them? This isn't going away.

161 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:37:37pm

re: #155 Big Steve

The only thing of Apple I own is some of there stock.....bought 200 shares in June 09 at $150/share. Thought I overpaid!!!

Won't know whether you did until you sell it off and realize some profit/loss. Or is Apple generating enough of a dividend to consider holding for that reason? (Though at $150/share it would have to be a pretty sizable one to consider investing in it simply for dividend returns.)

162 Kragar  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:37:51pm

re: #158 Patricia Kayden

@148 Kragar:

So birtherism is still what Republicans are pushing even though President Obama is up in most of the polls, especially the ones for swing states? If pushing the "Obama is a communist socialist Muslim Kenyan" meme hasn't worked since 2008, what makes it a winning strategy now?
Santorum was correct to point out that the smart people will never vote for them.

Because if you repeat something long enough and loud enough, it magically becomes true.

Lucy Lawless is madly in love with me.

163 JamesWI  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:38:28pm
164 lawhawk  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:38:44pm

re: #145 HappyWarrior

Our Steve who art in heaven, Jobs be thy name, thy iPod come as earth as it is in heaven.

iOS6 is proof that evolution doesn't exist (aka the map debacle). /ducking

165 HappyWarrior  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:39:47pm

re: #163 JamesWI

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Todd's even less popular with the ladies than I was in high school.:)

166 makeitstop  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:40:20pm

re: #133 Big Steve

Objection noted.

167 Coracle  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:44:36pm

re: #166 makeitstop

Objection noted.

I agree with Steve on this. All denigrating names on all sides are distractions and detractions. They make us feel good for three seconds, but basically instruct your opponents to close their ears to anything that follows.

168 sagehen  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:45:51pm

I bet the RNC is really starting to regret not letting Gary Johnson into the debates.

And the rest of the Republican establishment is asking each other "remind me why exactly didn't we support John Huntsman?"

169 darthstar  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:46:25pm

Heh...Someone on Martin Bashir just asked if Romney intends on revising his taxes after the election to get back the extra he paid.

170 Gus  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:46:30pm

Hey!

[Link: twitter.com...]

171 darthstar  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:47:18pm

re: #170 Gus

Hey!

[Link: twitter.com...]

Looks just like you.

172 Gus  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:48:27pm
173 Kragar  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:49:24pm

Ted Koppel takes down Bill O’Reilly and launches war on ‘partisan ranting’

Koppel sat down with Fox News’ own Bill O’Reilly, and the two immediately squared off over whose brand of journalism is more righteous.

But that’s not going to be easy, New York Times media columnist David Carr told Koppel during his NBC segment — especially when Fox News alone turns in over $1 billion a year.

O’Reilly opened his interview by claiming Fox news does “eight hours of hard news” all day, whereas he believes MSNBC does not. “We’re a news agency,” he insisted.

“I don’t think anyone is going to be confused as to the ideological belief of most of the people who appear on Fox,” Koppel said.

O’Reilly went on to describe all of the old television news hosts as “left wing guys,” but he stopped at Koppel and the late ABC News host Peter Jennings. “I think you were just in a daze all the time,” O’Reilly said. “I was at ABC News. I heard the scuttlebutt about you. You weren’t a big interferer. And Jennings wasn’t either. Jennings didn’t like all that ideology, he didn’t, that’s why I didn’t bring his name up.”

“You know, I’d rather you criticize me,” Koppel said, “because your compliments are more damaging and more devastating than your criticism.”

He went on, saying: “Ideological coverage of the news, be it of the right or be it of the left, has created a political reality for the country that is bad for America. I think it’s made it difficult if not impossible for decent men and women in Congress, on Capitol Hill, to reach across the aisle and find compromise. If we can’t do that, we’re going to be — and I think we have been for the last few years — in a terrible situation in this country where, politically, we can’t make deals anymore.”

174 Gus  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:49:38pm

I think Republican politicians need to start reading books and stuff. Might help.

175 darthstar  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:49:48pm

Dr. Jill Biden makes unintentional 'long penis' joke...funny shit.

Youtube Video
176 wrenchwench  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:50:50pm

Pic of the day.

Image: 2010-10-12-16-37-27-6-a-wood-ant-is-holding-a-microchip-with-its-mandibl.jpeg

See the formidable competition here.

177 darthstar  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:50:52pm

re: #174 Gus

I think Republican politicians need to start reading books and stuff. Might help.

After the election, they'll have plenty of time to read the Left Behind series.

178 engineer cat  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:52:08pm

re: #91 HappyWarrior

I don't know about Ryan but I can't see Christie being that popular in early states like Iowa and South Carolina. His image is more based off his image as Mr. angry Republican than having done. I think his opponents will have a field day with some of the more "liberal" things Christie has done. I can totally see one of them trying to make an issue out of Christie appointing a Muslim to the NJ bench. Plus I think Christie is too "urban" for an increasingly rural GOP. IF that makes any sense. I think Rudy had the same problem. Though Christie differs from Rudy on issues like guns, abortion, and gays.

i think christie appeals to all harcore wingnuts, rural or urban, basically on his willingness to make angry and rude comebacks to favorite dittohead targets like journalists, teachers, etc. same red meat effect that gingrich used so well in the debate

being rude and angry like that gives all wingnuts instant hardons no matter where they live

179 darthstar  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:53:13pm

re: #176 wrenchwench

Pic of the day.

Image: 2010-10-12-16-37-27-6-a-wood-ant-is-holding-a-microchip-with-its-mandibl.jpeg

See the formidable competition here.

This one looks a bit like Varek.

Image: 2010-10-12-16-37-27-2-a-human-head-louse-is-clinging-to-a-hair.jpeg

180 wrenchwench  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:55:12pm

re: #179 darthstar

This one looks a bit like Varek.

Image: 2010-10-12-16-37-27-2-a-human-head-louse-is-clinging-to-a-hair.jpeg

Or like one of Kragar's toys.

181 HappyWarrior  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:56:58pm

re: #178 engineer cat

i think christie appeals to all harcore wingnuts, rural or urban, basically on his willingness to make angry and rude comebacks to favorite dittohead targets like journalists, teachers, etc. same red meat effect that gingrich used so well in the debate

being rude and angry like that gives all wingnuts instant hardons no matter where they live

I suppose you're right. Still interested in seeing how he fares when he's being told he's not awesome by other Republicans which by the way I think is why Palin didn't run in part because she prefers to live in the illusion that it's only Democrats and the left that are mean and critical of her.

182 gwangung  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 1:58:37pm

re: #181 HappyWarrior

I suppose you're right. Still interested in seeing how he fares when he's being told he's not awesome by other Republicans which by the way I think is why Palin didn't run in part because she prefers to live in the illusion that it's only Democrats and the left that are mean and critical of her.

Christie is ten times tougher and thicker skinned than Palin in that respect, I think...

183 Gus  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:00:05pm
184 darthstar  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:01:22pm

The Romney's have been having plane troubles. They shouldn't have bought their plane from Palin on eBay.

185 engineer cat  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:01:42pm

re: #140 Gus

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if you think apple users suffer from religious complexes, try unix devotees

i humbly bow down to them as an inferior slave bound to the evil master known as 'Windows'

186 Mattand  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:02:16pm

re: #173 Kragar

Ted Koppel takes down Bill O’Reilly and launches war on ‘partisan ranting’

“You know, I’d rather you criticize me,” Koppel said, “because your compliments are more damaging and more devastating than your criticism.”

Ouchie.

He went on, saying: “Ideological coverage of the news, be it of the right or be it of the left, has created a political reality for the country that is bad for America."

Yes, because we all know the damage that influential, unstoppable ratings machine MSNBC has wreaked on society.

Sorry, Ted, but the MBF doesn't become you.

187 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:02:25pm

re: #184 darthstar

The Romney's have been having plane troubles. They shouldn't have bought their plane from Palin on eBay.

[Embedded content]

Did they check the top of the plane? Is the dog okay?

//

188 Gus  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:02:37pm

re: #185 engineer cat

if you think apple users suffer from religious complexes, try unix devotees

i humbly bow down to them as an inferior slave bound to the evil master known as 'Windows'

Yep. Unix is the Ron Paul of operating software.

189 engineer cat  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:02:41pm

it is time for all Americans to realize how significant this election is and how lucky we are to have someone with Mitt’s qualifications and experience and know-how to be able

i don't want to be mean to the nice lady but frankly she sounds like a moron here

190 Decatur Deb  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:03:35pm

re: #175 darthstar

Dr. Jill Biden makes unintentional 'long penis' joke...funny shit.

[Embedded content]

I don't think Joe and his wife are robots.

191 makeitstop  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:03:53pm

re: #187 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

Did they check the top of the plane? Is the dog Paul Ryan okay?

//

Fixed.

192 Mattand  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:04:08pm

re: #182 gwangung

Christie is ten times tougher and thicker skinned than Palin in that respect, I think...

For the most part, yeah. However...

193 darthstar  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:04:29pm

OT: Santa Lucia Highlands (near Monterey, CA) makes some of the biggest, chewiest, easy drinking Pinot Noirs...had this with dinner last night...fucking lovely.

194 darthstar  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:04:53pm

Howard Fineman now talking about Romney's 3 year window to get those taxes back via revision.

195 Batman  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:05:22pm

I really think they're trying to get democrats to think this is a slam dunk, which it should be, so they will just stay home on election night.

196 engineer cat  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:05:44pm

Alabama GOP Chair Goes Birther, Says Obama’s Communist Upbringing ‘Verified’

according to some meaning of the word "verified" that does necessarily involve reality

197 HappyWarrior  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:06:37pm

re: #182 gwangung

Christie is ten times tougher and thicker skinned than Palin in that respect, I think...

Right. No argument there.

198 darthstar  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:06:52pm

Heh...Ryan's speech didn't just get booed...

199 wrenchwench  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:07:06pm

re: #195 Batman

I really think they're trying to get democrats to think this is a slam dunk, which it should be, so they will just stay home on election night.

That seems to be the danger, at this point.

200 HappyWarrior  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:08:08pm

re: #198 darthstar

Heh...Ryan's speech didn't just get booed...

[Embedded content]

And I bet the same people who cheered Joe Wilson on for his SOTU "You Lie" will be saying how horrible horrible the AARPers that shouted that at Ryan are.

201 Decatur Deb  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:08:13pm

re: #196 engineer cat

Alabama GOP Chair Goes Birther, Says Obama’s Communist Upbringing ‘Verified’

according to some meaning of the word "verified" that does necessarily involve reality

It's verified. Y'all need to learn how to talk down here. "Communist" is a noun for a black on this side of the lunch counter, and any white who helped him get there.

202 gwangung  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:09:36pm

re: #192 Mattand

For the most part, yeah. However...

Hm. Forgot about that.

On second thought...I think I was still right the first time...

203 gwangung  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:11:05pm

re: #195 Batman

I really think they're trying to get democrats to think this is a slam dunk, which it should be, so they will just stay home on election night.

"Your foot is on the enemy's throat!

"STEP FORWARD!!!"

204 Randall Gross  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:17:32pm

wingnut brittle.

205 Lidane  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:19:22pm
206 Lidane  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:20:46pm

LOL. Just...LOL.

They're not even trying anymore.

207 darthstar  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:24:31pm
208 Randall Gross  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:25:29pm

re: #148 Kragar

Alabama GOP Chair Goes Birther, Says Obama’s Communist Upbringing ‘Verified’

That's 2 year old kookspiracy from Infowars, can be found on youtubes.

209 darthstar  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:25:51pm
210 Gus  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:27:25pm
211 Gus  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:29:37pm

OMG. Ick. How weird...

What Makes Mitt Romney Happy

Youtube Video
212 Charles Johnson  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:29:37pm

OT: The Standard PHP Library's "RecursiveDirectoryIterator" class is awesome.

Just used it for the first time to test some code for a new LGF Pages image library manager. You can write a full recursive directory search routine in an amazingly small amount of code.

For example, the images you use in your LGF Pages and comments are stored in subdirectories using a date scheme; any images you upload today would go into a path like this:

/img/yourname/2012/09/21/image.jpg

This tiny bit of code reads the full pathnames of all the images in my own LGF Pages subdirectory into an array:

<?php

$fileObjects =  new RecursiveIteratorIterator(

	new RecursiveDirectoryIterator('img/charles/')

);

foreach ($fileObjects as $fileName => $fileObject) {

	if (preg_match('/(?:\.jpg|\.jpeg|\.gif|\.png)$/i', $fileName)) {

		$fileArray[] = $fileName;

	}

}

?>

I've written recursive directory traversal routines from scratch (in assembly language, no less), and they're not simple. This SPL method makes it a trivial task.

213 darthstar  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:31:49pm
214 MittDoesNotCompute  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:32:22pm

If Mitt is an amalgamation of Milburn Drysdale, THII, Judge Smails from Caddyshack, and Charles Foster Kane (among other TV/movie rich white guys), then Ann is the stereotype of Marie Antoinette.

Just sayin'...

215 Digital Display  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:32:57pm

re: #193 darthstar

OT: Santa Lucia Highlands (near Monterey, CA) makes some of the biggest, chewiest, easy drinking Pinot Noirs...had this with dinner last night...fucking lovely.

I like that area..Beautiful, I dated a girl in Seaside in College.
But having grown up in Napa Valley we have the best wine and food in the world. The first time I ever blogged years ago was at firedoglake. My Nic was NapaValleyHomer. So there you go. :)

216 BeenHereAwhile  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:33:53pm

re: #60 HappyWarrior

re: #57 Kragar

Just remember, Rush keeps saying that only by picking the most Conservative candidate will the GOP be able to win elections.

Obviously Mitt just isn't conservative enough.

That's what we'll hear if Mitt loses. Meaning that they won't learn a damn thing and we could potentially end up with nominee Santorum or Ryan in 2016 if the GOP continues to do their next in line thing they've been doing since 1980.

CAUTION sweeping generalizations FOLLOW

FWIW, the Republican party has been through ultra-right wing paroxysms like this before.

e.g. In the 1950s, the Republicans had Joe McCarthy, Nixon won his Senate seat by painting Helen G. Douglas as the "fellow traveler - pink lady." After moderate Eisenhower tamped down the virulent anti-commie right wing, some of them accused Eisenhower of communist leanings. The crazies gathered into the John Birch Society.

In the early 1960s Goldwater got co-oped by the ultra-right wing, and lost to Johnson. William Buckley helped steer the Republicans back toward a broader base.

Nixon, Reagan, GHW Bush & GW Bush subsequently more or less kept them under control.

More recently, in 2008, moderate McCain got co-oped by the ultra-right wing, and lost to Obama.

As to 2012, we'll find out in November.

Will the Republicans continue to "not conservative enough." I dunno. They may just bring back Karl Rove to run elections.

217 engineer cat  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:35:35pm

re: #212 Charles Johnson

i see code!

218 engineer cat  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:36:18pm

re: #216 BeenHereAwhile

In the 1950s, the Republicans had Joe McCarthy, Nixon won his Senate seat by painting Helen G. Douglas as the "fellow traveler - pink lady."

"pink right down to her panties", somebody said at the time

219 Digital Display  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:37:48pm

re: #212 Charles Johnson

I read some articles you wrote years ago about moving data from register to register. old timey programming shit. You Rock with code Charles

220 jaunte  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:37:58pm

How can people be so heartless
How can people be so cruel
Lucky to have Mitt
They irk me quite a bit

How can people have no feelings
How can they ignore the rich
Make me feel so bad
Bet they never ski in Gstaad

221 darthstar  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:38:26pm
222 darthstar  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:39:44pm

re: #215 Digital Display

I like that area..Beautiful, I dated a girl in Seaside in College.
But having grown up in Napa Valley we have the best wine and food in the world. The first time I ever blogged years ago was at firedoglake. My Nic was NapaValleyHomer. So there you go. :)

There's nothing wrong with Napa wines...just got my Pine Ridge club shipment the other day - they do great Cabernets. But the Monterey mountain pinots are to die for.

223 Killgore Trout  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:41:17pm

NSFW: Femen Opens First Office Abroad

Feminists from the Ukraine-based activist group Femen have opened their first training center abroad in Paris to teach like-minded protesters how to evade security forces. For the opening, the women ran half-naked through a predominantly Muslim neighborhood in the French capital.

224 Kragar  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:42:50pm

re: #221 darthstar

Libyan demonstrators wreck militia compound in Benghazi

Hundreds of Libyan protesters forced members of the main Salafist militia out of their base in the second city of Benghazi Friday, setting fire to and wrecking the military compound.

The assault came as an estimated 30,000 people rallied against the influence of the militias in the city, drowning out a protest by radical Salafists angry over a film and cartoons deemed offensive to Islam.

“No to armed formations” and “Yes to the Libya army” read banners raised by protesters gathered at the city’s Tibesti Hotel before marching to Al-Kish Square, close to the barracks of several militia brigades.

“Our law is God’s law, not the law of the jungle,” women chanted.

Banners also paid tribute to U.S. ambassador Chris Stevens, who was killed along with three Americans on September 11 in what the White House now calls a terrorist attack on the U.S. mission in Benghazi.

“Libya lost a friend” and “We want justice for Stevens,” signs read.

225 danarchy  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:43:36pm

re: #211 Gus

OMG. Ick. How weird...

What Makes Mitt Romney Happy

[Embedded content]

Looks like the Annual St. Patrick's day breakfast. Boston politicians get together and have like a big mutual roast, and tell jokes about themselves and each other.

226 Gus  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:44:23pm

re: #225 danarchy

Looks like the Annual St. Patrick's day breakfast. Boston politicians get together and have like a big mutual roast, and tell jokes about themselves and each other.

Looks like a scene from an 80s movie and they're the antagonists.

227 Eclectic Infidel  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:44:47pm

Women for Mitt. Sorta sounds like an oxymoron, given how little Mitt and his Republican butt buddies care for their welfare.

228 Sheila Broflovski  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:45:41pm

re: #16 Kragar

I would like to do dirty, dirty, dirty things with Sarah.

Are you Sheldon Adelson? Then you're SOL.

229 Killgore Trout  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:46:00pm

re: #224 Kragar

Libyan demonstrators wreck militia compound in Benghazi

Interesting that the militias didn't respond. Even the government is afraid to fuck with them. Maybe the militias realized they're losing the patience of the people and decided resisting the protesters would have created more bad publicity.

230 Kragar  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:46:09pm

re: #226 Gus

Looks like a scene from an 80s movie and they're the antagonists.

Was that Neidermeyer and Marmalard behind him on stage?

231 darthstar  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:46:22pm

...

232 Gus  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:46:35pm

re: #231 darthstar

...

..

233 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:46:48pm

re: #185 engineer cat

if you think apple users suffer from religious complexes, try unix devotees

For real fun, go on the OpenBSD mailing list and assert that Red Hat Linux is the only sound choice for enterprise-scale clusters. Whether or not you specify that you mean the USS Enterprise NCC-1701D is up to you.

234 Kragar  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:47:37pm

re: #229 Killgore Trout

Interesting that the militias didn't respond. Even the government is afraid to fuck with them. Maybe the militias realized they're losing the patience of the people and decided resisting the protesters would have created more bad publicity.

Waiting a few days, then killing the organizers is more their style.

235 Digital Display  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:48:13pm

re: #222 darthstar

There's nothing wrong with Napa wines...just got my Pine Ridge club shipment the other day - they do great Cabernets. But the Monterey mountain pinots are to die for.

Sounds delish..Have you tried Francis Ford Coppla's wines yet? Pricey but as I tried some I thought, ' Where the hell did this Hollywood star hire to run his winery? ' Surprise! awesome .
BTW. As a huge Giants fan I always miss you on the board talking about my Giants..I grew up going to Candlestick on a weekend game or pops would take us to 1/2 price night on Tuesdays.

236 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:48:39pm

re: #227 Eclectic Infidel

Women for Mitt.

I always thought "Women for Herman Cain" sounded like a catering service.

237 darthstar  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:50:00pm

re: #232 Gus

..

Hm...tweet embed didn't work...that's okay...it was just a video of Mitt's awkwardness.

238 Targetpractice  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:50:18pm

re: #224 Kragar

Libyan demonstrators wreck militia compound in Benghazi

Obama's foreign policy is a failure! These deadly attacks prove that we are not winning over the people of Libya! We need a stronger leader!!

239 makeitstop  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:51:05pm

re: #232 Gus

..

.

240 Gus  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:51:10pm

re: #237 darthstar

Hm...tweet embed didn't work...that's okay...it was just a video of Mitt's awkwardness.

Could have been a deleted Tweet. Check their timeline and see if there's another one there.

241 Decatur Deb  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:51:19pm

re: #233 Our Precious Bodily Fluids

For real fun, go on the OpenBSD mailing list and assert that Red Hat Linux is the only sound choice for enterprise-scale clusters. Whether or not you specify that you mean the USS Enterprise NCC-1701D is up to you.

Penguinistas Arriba!!!

(In Mitt Rommey's French-accented Castilian voice).

242 Gus  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:51:27pm

re: #239 makeitstop

.

_ _

243 Kragar  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:51:47pm

re: #238 Targetpractice

I think its safe to say nothing like this would have happened if Mitt Romney's foreign policy was in place.

244 Kragar  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:52:15pm

re: #242 Gus

_ _

m/

Metal.

IT TOOK OUT MY FORWARD SLASH DAMN IT!

245 Gus  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:53:02pm
246 Gus  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:55:48pm
247 Kragar  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:56:03pm

Romney: Obama Puts Us On Path To Europe – Or California

Mitt Romney took a jab at California while speaking in Las Vegas, accusing Obama of plunging America into debt and dependency.

"I'm convinced that the path [Obama's] put us on is the path to Europe," he said. "Or, I jokingly say....to California."

Does Romney mean having a bigger economy than several of the states that support him have combined?

Keep it up douchebag. No wonder the GOP is dead in CA.

248 Decatur Deb  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:58:46pm

re: #247 Kragar

Romney: Obama Puts Us On Path To Europe – Or California

Does Romney mean having a bigger economy than several of the states that support him have combined?

Keep it up douchebag. No wonder the GOP is dead in CA.

It's the devilishly clever "Insult Them Until They Vote For You" strategy Sarah (peace be upon her) started it with the 'Real Americans'.

249 engineer cat  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:58:54pm

re: #233 Our Precious Bodily Fluids

For real fun, go on the OpenBSD mailing list and assert that Red Hat Linux is the only sound choice for enterprise-scale clusters. Whether or not you specify that you mean the USS Enterprise NCC-1701D is up to you.

heh

250 Lidane  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 2:59:37pm
251 Kragar  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 3:00:21pm

re: #248 Decatur Deb

It's the devilishly clever "Insult Them Until They Vote For You" strategy Sarah (peace be upon her) started it with the 'Real Americans'.

I guess Mitt is going to abandon his La Jolla mansion then.

252 Only The Lurker Knows  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 3:01:12pm

re: #224 Kragar

Good. It's nice to see some push back at radical Islam by the Moderates. Hopefully it will grow and spread.

253 Killgore Trout  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 3:02:05pm

re: #234 Kragar

Waiting a few days, then killing the organizers is more their style.

True but I think they realized they made a big mistake. A few of the local leaders may stay around to be killed by drones or Libyan military but I think most of the international jihadis are running for the hills.

254 freetoken  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 3:02:30pm

re: #251 Kragar

I guess Mitt is going to abandon his La Jolla mansion then.

Oh, how great would it have been if someone had shouted that out from the crowd?

255 Kragar  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 3:04:48pm

From sea to shining sea, except for California...

256 Mich-again  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 3:05:40pm

America is lucky that Mitt entered the race. By the time Mitt's campaign crashes into the finish wall, the Tea Party will have been fully exposed as a bunch of sub-intelligent willfully ignorant crackpot racists.

257 Lidane  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 3:07:34pm
258 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 3:09:42pm

re: #233 Our Precious Bodily Fluids

For real fun, go on the OpenBSD mailing list and assert that Red Hat Linux is the only sound choice for enterprise-scale clusters. Whether or not you specify that you mean the USS Enterprise NCC-1701D is up to you.

Oh, good lord, Theo. Is he still in charge of Open? I wonder if I still have the flame I got from him? Never did know _why_ but it was an impressive bit of keyboard napalm...

259 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 3:09:59pm

Interesting. Telephone polling about the election in Pennsylvania just received - on my cell phone. American Future Fund paid for it.

Fairly straightforward and standard question set. Asked about POTUS, Senate, and US Rep preferences, question about Obama positively affecting the economy or not, and one about ObamaCare (w/o an option to opine that it did not go far enough.) Plus collecting demographic data of course. That it took care to state that Protestant/Evangelical was a combined category for the religious group question was sort of interesting.

AFF says this about themselves:

The American Future Fund operates as a 501(c)(4) and was formed to provide Americans with a conservative and free market viewpoint to have a mechanism to communicate and advocate on the issues that most interest and concern them. Conservative and free market principles will be under direct attack in America. In light of that, it is imperative there be a voice for conservative principles that sustains free market ideals focused on bolstering America’s global competitiveness across the country.

The American Future Fund is established as a multi- state issues advocacy group designed to effectively communicate conservative and free market ideals.

The American Future Fund will continue to educate citizens across the country on common conservative principles.

260 Mich-again  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 3:10:28pm

I've noticed that the worse the polling data gets for Mitt, the angrier the tone gets on Fox News. They are hopping mad at America anymore. Its getting fun watching them yell and scream at each other in violent agreement.

261 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 3:10:50pm

re: #248 Decatur Deb

It's the devilishly clever "Insult Them Until They Vote For You" strategy Sarah (peace be upon her) started it with the 'Real Americans'.

Actually Mitt started it in the last cycle by using the People's Republic of Massachusetts as a punchline in front of Republican crowds.

263 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 3:11:32pm

re: #260 Mich-again

I've noticed that the worse the polling data gets for Mitt, the angrier the tone gets on Fox News. They are hopping mad at America anymore. Its getting fun watching them yell and scream at each other in violent agreement.

The US is proving that Americans do not deserve Fox News. Maybe it should pull up stakes and move to Central America.
/

264 Kragar  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 3:13:13pm

I'd like to see how fast the Red States would dry up if CA played by the same tax rules Romney uses.

States Ranked by Total State Taxes: 2011

United States….. 757,254,745
1 California….. 116,695,284
2 New York….. 67,945,152
3 Texas….. 43,188,251
4 Florida….. 32,557,946
5 Pennsylvania….. 32,352,286
6 Illinois….. 29,433,475
7 New Jersey…..27,182,753
8 Ohio…..25,176,562
9 Michigan….. 23,540,253
10 North Carolina…..22,405,841

265 Kragar  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 3:14:10pm

Spending my tax dollars on dumbasses in Red states violates my religious beliefs.

266 Mich-again  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 3:14:13pm

re: #263 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

The US is proving that Americans do not deserve Fox News. Maybe it should pull up stakes and move to Central America.
/

Yeah that's next. Ann bitching that America should be more thankful for Rupert Murdoch and Fox News.

267 Sheila Broflovski  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 3:15:47pm

re: #255 Kragar

From sea to shining sea, except for California...

Day after day
More people move to L.A.
Don't you tell anybody
The whole place is shakin' away

Where will you go
When there's no San Francisco?
Better get ready
To tie up your boat in Idaho

268 sagehen  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 3:16:00pm

re: #209 darthstar

[Embedded content]

(psst... colorado's a swing state, right?)

269 Decatur Deb  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 3:22:33pm

re: #265 Kragar

Spending my tax dollars on dumbasses in Red states violates my religious beliefs.

Shut up and keep sending those Yankee greenbacks. We even take checks, now.

270 Randall Gross  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 3:30:16pm

re: #262 Charles Johnson

Of course the source is dim jim.

271 sunnygal  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 4:59:03pm

re: #107 darthstar

My reaction? "If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen."

Sheez! What a whiner.

272 Kaessa  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 5:42:20pm

re: #268 sagehen

(psst... colorado's a swing state, right?)

Yep.

I used to live down near Chimney Rock, and it is a really special place. Good on them for designating it a National Monument.

273 labman57  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 9:04:32pm

Well, as the saying goes: If you can't take the heat ....

If Mitt and Ann are whining that the campaign criticism is overbearing, then how the hell do they think Romney will be able to handle the stresses of the Presidency?

274 sffilk  Sat, Sep 22, 2012 11:41:43am

Americans are lucky to have Mitt? I don't think so.


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