Daryl Hall and Jason Mraz: “So Close”
There’s a restless look in your eye tonight
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Charles Johnson Sat, Sep 22, 2012 5:28:11pm |
And a sneak preview of the new LGF Image Library app:
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freetoken Sat, Sep 22, 2012 5:31:17pm |
Gives me a chance to bring attention to this:
Ancient site needs saving not destroying
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This site is called Mes Aynak and is nothing short of awe-inspiring: a massive walled-in Buddhist city featuring massive temples, monasteries, and thousands of Buddhist statues that managed to survive looters and the Taliban. Holding a key position on the Silk Road, Mes Aynak was also an international hub for traders and pilgrims from all over Asia.
Hundreds of fragile manuscripts detailing daily life at the site are still yet to be excavated. Beneath the Buddhist dwellings is an even older yet-unearthed Bronze age site indicated by several recent archaeological findings.
Mes Aynak is set for destruction at the end of December 2012. All of the temples, monasteries, statues as well as the Bronze age material will all be destroyed by a Chinese government-owned company called China Metallurgical Group Corporation (MCC). Six villages and the mountain range will also be destroyed to create a massive open-pit style copper mine.
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MCC says they weren't told about the archaeology site's existence until after the contract was signed. Following significant international pressure and perhaps sensing an impending PR nightmare, MCC in 2009 gave archaeologists three years to attempt to excavate the site.
Archaeologists say they need at least 30 years to do the job but had no choice but to accept MCCs brief timetable. Specialists on site are working with extremely limited funding and the crudest of tools.
Afghan archaeologists, who do the majority of the excavation, don't have access to computers or digital cameras and have been sleeping on the floor in a wooden shack when staying on the site overnight.
Today, three teams of international archaeologists led by DAFA, a French archaeological delegation, scramble to save as many relics as they can. These experts are performing rushed rescue archeology, which focuses on removing movable objects and not on preserving structures.
Archaeologists now have less than four months to do three decades worth of excavation. They are also risking their lives daily as locals of Logar Province, angry at the loss of their villages partner with the Taliban to regularly attack both the MCC site and the archaeology location with rockets and land mines.
In July, a Logar worker unearthed a landmine that exploded in his face. Later that month, four Afghan policemen were killed by a landmine on the road leading to the archaeology site.
[...]
It's particularly sad that ancient sites are not only plundered (always a problem) but now face whole scale destruction for industrial demands.
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Targetpractice Sat, Sep 22, 2012 5:31:59pm |
re: #1 Charles Johnson
And a sneak preview of the new LGF Image Library app:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
Whoa, bunch of those pics I haven't seen in forever. Cool.
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Charles Johnson Sat, Sep 22, 2012 5:33:53pm |
The search field doesn't do anything yet. You'll be able to add a description to the images, and that's what will be searchable.
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Charles Johnson Sat, Sep 22, 2012 5:35:24pm |
Click on the Image URL field and it becomes selected, to make it easy to copy/paste it into a new Page or comment.
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Only The Lurker Knows Sat, Sep 22, 2012 5:36:10pm |
re: #1 Charles Johnson
And a sneak preview of the new LGF Image Library app:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
So how does this work? It tells me I haven't uploaded any images yet. But to the best of my knowledge, I have never been allowed to upload any images, except for my Avatar to LGF. Link, yes. Upload no. Did I miss something?
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Daniel Ballard Sat, Sep 22, 2012 5:37:07pm |
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Charles Johnson Sat, Sep 22, 2012 5:37:20pm |
re: #6 Bubblehead II
So how does this work? It tells me I haven't uploaded any images yet. But to the best of my knowledge, I have never been allowed to upload any images, except for my Avatar to LGF. Link, yes. Upload no. Did I miss something?
Possibly ... ever notice that button in the comment posting box that says "Upload Image"? Same button is in the Pages posting window...
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MittDoesNotCompute Sat, Sep 22, 2012 5:38:29pm |
re: #1 Charles Johnson
And a sneak preview of the new LGF Image Library app:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
Nifty as hell, as always, Charles. However, will there be a way to weed out duplicates or is that gonna screw up posts with those embedded pics in them?
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Only The Lurker Knows Sat, Sep 22, 2012 5:39:23pm |
re: #8 Charles Johnson
Possibly ... ever notice that button in the comment posting box that says "Upload Images"? Same button is in the Pages posting window...
So I see, says the blind man taking the hammer and nail.
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freetoken Sat, Sep 22, 2012 5:39:26pm |
Romney says no more fundraising in San Diego
Mitt Romney says he's done raising money in San Diego.
The Republican presidential nominee told donors gathered in the San Diego area that Saturday's fundraiser there is his last one. Romney is expected to launch a more aggressive campaign schedule targeting swing states in the coming weeks. He's spending Saturday at private fundraisers around San Diego and Los Angeles.
[...]
But... but... what else is that La Jolla mansion good for? Oh yea, storing the Cadillac fleet.
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Charles Johnson Sat, Sep 22, 2012 5:40:01pm |
re: #9 Gert Fröbe
Nifty as hell, as always, Charles. However, will there be a way to weed out duplicates or is that gonna screw up posts with those embedded pics in them?
Yeah - I may add a delete option, but the problem is that any Pages or comments that use the image will then have a broken link.
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freetoken Sat, Sep 22, 2012 5:40:28pm |
Speaking of musicians, is everyone in Chicago going on strike?
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Charles Johnson Sat, Sep 22, 2012 5:41:50pm |
A classic from jaunte:
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jaunte Sat, Sep 22, 2012 5:44:50pm |
re: #14 Charles Johnson
I hope I captured his true inner creepiness.
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MittDoesNotCompute Sat, Sep 22, 2012 5:45:53pm |
re: #14 Charles Johnson
A classic from jaunte:
Love that pic...if jaunte doesn't draw for a living, they should.
Political cartoons look to be right up their alley.
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MittDoesNotCompute Sat, Sep 22, 2012 5:48:14pm |
re: #15 jaunte
I hope I captured his true inner creepiness.
Like they say, beauty may be skin-deep, but ugly goes down to the bone.
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freetoken Sat, Sep 22, 2012 5:49:02pm |
Kiwi krazy kreationists:
Creationists behind 'offensive' pamphlet
Racist pamphlets horrified a top fashion model when she checked her mailbox last week.
Danielle Hayes, who won NZ's Next Top Model in 2010, was shocked to see a pamphlet equating people of colour to chimpanzees.
"It's been distributed all over Kawerau. The majority of my friends have [received it] too," Hayes said.
The crudely written flyers have shown up across the small Bay of Plenty town. It appeared the material had been downloaded from fanatical creationist websites.
"Are you a racist? You are if you believe in evolution!" the letter states.
"Kids are taught in school that man evolved (changed) from a chimp. So I ask you who changed the most from a black chimp with black hair and brown eyes? A black man with black hair and brown eyes? Or a white man with blond hair and blue eyes?"
[...]
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Charles Johnson Sat, Sep 22, 2012 5:49:23pm |
Scarecrow sprinkler with Pontiff.
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Sheila Broflovski Sat, Sep 22, 2012 5:50:39pm |
re: #15 jaunte
I hope I captured his true inner creepiness.
I liked the one you did of him deciding which hat to wear, while wearing flip flops and Daisy Dukes.
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Only The Lurker Knows Sat, Sep 22, 2012 5:53:24pm |
Well I am going to give this a shot. As I have posted, Southern Idaho has had (and still has)a lot of wild fires this year. We are (still) under a stage 1 air quality alert. This is what the Sky's looked like yesterday morning.
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jaunte Sat, Sep 22, 2012 5:53:37pm |
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b_sharp Sat, Sep 22, 2012 5:53:56pm |
re: #22 jaunte
"Stacy's Closet."
I wish the pics you did for the cookbooks were published here. Hint, hint.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sat, Sep 22, 2012 5:54:26pm |
Thanks Charles, this is exceptional.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Sep 22, 2012 5:54:55pm |
re: #18 freetoken
Kiwi krazy kreationists:
Jesus Christ, people. Modern humans are all homo sapiens sapiens. Just because some of us come in different color varietals does not change that. Try thinking of the blonde folks as being more like Japanese macaques than chimps, if it helps you get over this mental block.
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b_sharp Sat, Sep 22, 2012 5:56:12pm |
re: #23 Bubblehead II
Well I am going to give this a shot. As I have posted, Southern Idaho has had (and still has)a lot of wild fires this year. We are (still) under a stage 1 air quality alert. This is what the Sky's looked like yesterday morning.
We used to get that every fall, when the farmers were burning stubble. A change in farming practices has reduced that.
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jaunte Sat, Sep 22, 2012 5:56:15pm |
re: #25 reflections of a redneck
I could put a few up, but right now I'm out in the countryside, away from my home computer where I have them stashed.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Sep 22, 2012 5:56:33pm |
So, how is the day going for you?
Got hubby to go shopping with me today. He got shoes and I got a shirt. Why do men hate to shop so much?
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sat, Sep 22, 2012 5:56:54pm |
This is actually a super sad song.
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jaunte Sat, Sep 22, 2012 5:57:32pm |
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darthstar Sat, Sep 22, 2012 5:57:41pm |
Hm...got a blank tweet again...anyway, apparently Iowa has a 6-1 ratio of Democratic to Republican ballot requests so far for early voting.
Enthusiasm.
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MittDoesNotCompute Sat, Sep 22, 2012 5:58:12pm |
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b_sharp Sat, Sep 22, 2012 5:58:31pm |
re: #27 SanFranciscoZionist
Jesus Christ, people. Modern humans are all homo sapiens sapiens. Just because some of us come in different color varietals does not change that. Try thinking of the blonde folks as being more like Japanese macaques than chimps, if it helps you get over this mental block.
We're all exactly the same distance from our chimp common ancestor, so the idea blond and blue eyed is more evolved is incredibly ignorant.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Sep 22, 2012 5:59:29pm |
re: #1 Charles Johnson
And a sneak preview of the new LGF Image Library app:
OH, Charles, I love you.
Now, I know where to find my images.
Because organizing my own computer seems not to be possible.
Thank You!
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Daniel Ballard Sat, Sep 22, 2012 6:00:29pm |
re: #30 ggt
So, how is the day going for you?
Got hubby to go shopping with me today. He got shoes and I got a shirt. Why do men hate to shop so much?
D N A
:-)
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Sep 22, 2012 6:00:55pm |
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Sep 22, 2012 6:01:46pm |
re: #13 freetoken
Speaking of musicians, is everyone in Chicago going on strike?
I hope they resolve that before it causes my parents to miss any concerts. That would make my father quite angry.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Sep 22, 2012 6:03:03pm |
re: #35 reflections of a redneck
We're all exactly the same distance from our chimp common ancestor, so the idea blond and blue eyed is more evolved is incredibly ignorant.
Sadly, even today, a lot of 'descent of Man' pictures show evolution from a series of dark-skinned ancestors culminating in a white, Nordic-looking homo sapiens sapiens. When I taught sixth grade social studies, I really had to hunt to look for a picture of a dark-skinned Cro-Magnon. So there is racism, but it's preexisting societal racism projected in an unscientific way onto the science, it's not that there's some inherent racism in the idea of evolution.
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jaunte Sat, Sep 22, 2012 6:03:21pm |
re: #25 reflections of a redneck
Oh, duh. Use the new thing that Charles has so generously coded for us.
Here's one, from the new LGF image library feature.
This is from the Side Dishes section:
Image: sides.jpg
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sat, Sep 22, 2012 6:04:39pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Sep 22, 2012 6:05:15pm |
re: #38 ggt
I know, women shop -men hunt.
:)
I firmly believe this is true. Men shop like hunters. Go out, see something you like, buy it, go home. If you wait around for a better gazelle, you may not get a gazelle.
Women shop like gatherers. Gatherers provide more of the food to a group, and they have to be choosy about what they carry. You shop around, see what's in season, and what looks good, what's better nutritional value, maybe go another couple miles to see if that place with the berries has more berries. You examine everything carefully, because if you pick the wrong plant, you can poison the whole damn tribe.
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Only The Lurker Knows Sat, Sep 22, 2012 6:05:20pm |
re: #28 reflections of a redneck
We used to get that every fall, when the farmers were burning stubble. A change in farming practices has reduced that.
That's a common practice here as well. But with the wildfires coupled with stagnant air, there is a County wide ban on burning and a call not to use gas powered equipment. Hell, this is the first time I have seen a request to stay home from work if you can. If not, car pool.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Sep 22, 2012 6:07:42pm |
re: #42 We're All Welfare Queens Now
Much more dramatic, as it should be. Ah memories
[Embedded content]
Well, Daryl Hall is not a young man any more is his "Daryl's House" series is his taking a new role as a musical "elder statesman" and mentor.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sat, Sep 22, 2012 6:08:38pm |
re: #42 We're All Welfare Queens Now
Much more dramatic, as it should be. Ah memories
[Embedded content]
Holy shit, just realized this is where "we're living in a dream world" came form.
Still into the music ya'll.
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Charles Johnson Sat, Sep 22, 2012 6:08:47pm |
re: #31 We're All Welfare Queens Now
This is actually a super sad song.
It really is. Has the ring of truth.
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jaunte Sat, Sep 22, 2012 6:08:47pm |
Misty Butterball Memories
Image: turkeybomber.jpg
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darthstar Sat, Sep 22, 2012 6:08:52pm |
Heh...Robert Reich fb status:
Robert Reich
Heading to NYC where I'll be seeing my sons, daughters in law, and almost-4-year-old granddaughter. Also appearing on ABC's "This Week" Sunday morning on a panel with, among others, Ann Coulter. I prefer my granddaughter.
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b_sharp Sat, Sep 22, 2012 6:10:07pm |
re: #40 SanFranciscoZionist
Sadly, even today, a lot of 'descent of Man' pictures show evolution from a series of dark-skinned ancestors culminating in a white, Nordic-looking homo sapiens sapiens. When I taught sixth grade social studies, I really had to hunt to look for a picture of a dark-skinned Cro-Magnon. So there is racism, but it's preexisting societal racism projected in an unscientific way onto the science, it's not that there's some inherent racism in the idea of evolution.
The whole idea of an evolutionary ladder, or some ascent from unevolved to evolved, is an egregious misunderstanding of evolution.
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b_sharp Sat, Sep 22, 2012 6:10:43pm |
re: #41 jaunte
Oh, duh. Use the new thing that Charles has so generously coded for us.
Here's one, from the new LGF image library feature.
This is from the Side Dishes section:
Image: sides.jpg
I have to say, I love your art.
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Only The Lurker Knows Sat, Sep 22, 2012 6:11:18pm |
re: #38 ggt
I know, women shop -men hunt.
:)
Not me. I hate shopping. I am of the get in/get out mind set. I have a list. I abide by the list (for the most part). I get in and get out. If I see something that's not on the list (oversight) I will pick it up. Otherwise, No, I don't go shopping.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Sep 22, 2012 6:11:44pm |
re: #49 darthstar
Heh...Robert Reich fb status:
Who wouldn't. Reich is a decent man, and such a man should regard Ann Coulter with disgust. Agree with his ideas or not, Reich actually wants to do things, Coulter just wants to rile people up for money.
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jaunte Sat, Sep 22, 2012 6:13:08pm |
re: #51 reflections of a redneck
Thanks! It's not what I do for living, but it might be a good second career when I retire.
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wrenchwench Sat, Sep 22, 2012 6:14:28pm |
Damn. I have over 400 photos uploaded. About 75% of them are sad for one reason or another.
But not this one. Here are my kitties five years ago:
Later, lizards.
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PhillyPretzel Sat, Sep 22, 2012 6:15:31pm |
re: #57 wrenchwench
That is so cute. They are adorable.
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Gus Sat, Sep 22, 2012 6:16:18pm |
re: #1 Charles Johnson
And a sneak preview of the new LGF Image Library app:
Nice. Found what I was looking for earlier.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Sep 22, 2012 6:16:22pm |
re: #50 reflections of a redneck
The whole idea of an evolutionary ladder, or some ascent from unevolved to evolved, is an egregious misunderstanding of evolution.
Yes, but in most cases it is a needed misunderstanding. It's intended to present the idea of evolution to people who think in terms of progress. Presenting evolution's dead-ends and other details would introduce too much complexity in most cases.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sat, Sep 22, 2012 6:17:30pm |
re: #47 Charles Johnson
It really is. Has the ring of truth.
I'm listening again. Seriously, saw Mayer Hawthorne opening for Chromeo (Friend highly recommened Chromeo - who knew?) Well Mayer Hawthorne opened so fantastic. Loved him. I told my friend, he sounds like Hall & Oates Mayer is his own sound, but damn it is there.
Then to find he's at Daryl's house. Then Jason Mraz?
It's a good music thing.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Sep 22, 2012 6:17:57pm |
re: #43 SanFranciscoZionist
I firmly believe this is true. Men shop like hunters. Go out, see something you like, buy it, go home. If you wait around for a better gazelle, you may not get a gazelle.
Women shop like gatherers. Gatherers provide more of the food to a group, and they have to be choosy about what they carry. You shop around, see what's in season, and what looks good, what's better nutritional value, maybe go another couple miles to see if that place with the berries has more berries. You examine everything carefully, because if you pick the wrong plant, you can poison the whole damn tribe.
So on my fb
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Sep 22, 2012 6:18:11pm |
re: #59 Gus
Nice. Found what I was looking for earlier.
Exactly why I'm voting for Romney! Because I like justices like Alito, Thomas, and Scalia.
/If you're gonna play the music, I'm gonna dance!
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Gus Sat, Sep 22, 2012 6:20:04pm |
re: #63 Dark_Falcon
Exactly why I'm voting for Romney! Because I like justices like Alito, Thomas, and Scalia.
/If you're gonna play the music, I'm gonna dance!
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b_sharp Sat, Sep 22, 2012 6:20:08pm |
re: #60 Dark_Falcon
Yes, but in most cases it is a needed misunderstanding. It's intended to present the idea of evolution to people who think in terms of progress. Presenting evolution's dead-ends and other details would introduce too much complexity in most cases.
The point I was trying to make is, there is no more or less evolved. All you can do is talk about distance from common ancestors.
The idea of evolution moving toward perfection is just wrong.
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Gus Sat, Sep 22, 2012 6:20:24pm |
re: #63 Dark_Falcon
Exactly why I'm voting for Romney! Because I like justices like Alito, Thomas, and Scalia.
/If you're gonna play the music, I'm gonna dance!
Now calm down about that last image. ;)
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Charles Johnson Sat, Sep 22, 2012 6:21:30pm |
This is turning into the Image Reminiscence thread. I know, right? I found a lot of images I didn't remember too.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Sat, Sep 22, 2012 6:22:04pm |
re: #70 Charles Johnson
This is turning into the Image Reminiscence thread. I know, right? I found a lot of images I didn't remember too.
Sharesies!
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Charles Johnson Sat, Sep 22, 2012 6:22:11pm |
You never know what you'll discover when you impose order on chaos.
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Gus Sat, Sep 22, 2012 6:23:38pm |
re: #70 Charles Johnson
This is turning into the Image Reminiscence thread. I know, right? I found a lot of images I didn't remember too.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Sep 22, 2012 6:25:30pm |
re: #66 reflections of a redneck
The point I was trying to make is, there is no more or less evolved. All you can do is talk about distance from common ancestors.
The idea of evolution moving toward perfection is just wrong.
I know, but the human mind works in the way it does and people would rather hear a tale of progress than wade through a great many complexities. So those who write popular books or text books on the topic tell the story the way the public wants to hear it.
Vox Populi,Vox Dei
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jaunte Sat, Sep 22, 2012 6:28:06pm |
Does this remind anyone else of The Shining?
Image: eyes611c.jpg
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sat, Sep 22, 2012 6:28:18pm |
So close, yet so far away.
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b_sharp Sat, Sep 22, 2012 6:28:30pm |
re: #72 Charles Johnson
You never know what you'll discover when you impose order on chaos.
Intelligent design.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Sat, Sep 22, 2012 6:29:30pm |
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Sep 22, 2012 6:29:34pm |
re: #79 jaunte
Does this remind anyone else of The Shining?
Image: eyes611c.jpg
Not Jack, nobody else is Jack, but I can see Michelle Bachmann as Nurse Ratchet.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Sep 22, 2012 6:30:30pm |
re: #82 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too
Heeere's Romney!
Nah, people as rich as Mitt get better digs if they go crazy.
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bratwurst Sat, Sep 22, 2012 6:31:20pm |
re: #63 Dark_Falcon
Exactly why I'm voting for Romney! Because I like justices like Alito, Thomas, and Scalia.
/If you're gonna play the music, I'm gonna dance!
There was one guy in that picture you didn't mention...I wonder why. /
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Sep 22, 2012 6:33:41pm |
re: #85 bratwurst
There was one guy in that picture you didn't mention...I wonder why. /
Eh, John Roberts is a good egg. I didn't much care for his Obamacare decision, but I understand the logic behind it. It was also a decision born of humility, not arrogance, and that goes a good way with me.
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MittDoesNotCompute Sat, Sep 22, 2012 6:34:09pm |
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Only The Lurker Knows Sat, Sep 22, 2012 6:39:56pm |
re: #83 Dark_Falcon
Not Jack, nobody else is Jack, but I can see Michelle Bachmann as Nurse Ratchet.
I don't always agree with you. But on this one I will will. +1
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Lidane Sat, Sep 22, 2012 6:43:17pm |
re: #63 Dark_Falcon
Thomas is useless and a waste of space on the SCOTUS bench. Read his dissent for Brown v. Entertainment Merchants Association sometime. It's so far out of whack from everything else that I'm convinced he didn't pay attention to what the hell was being argued at all. It's also so poorly written and reasoned that even Scalia bitch slaps him for it:
“He cites no case, state or federal, supporting this view, and to our knowledge there is none. Most of his dissent is devoted to the proposition that parents have traditionally had the power to control what their children hear and say. This is true enough. And it perhaps follows from this that the state has the power to enforce parental prohibitions—to require, for example, that the promoters of a rock concert exclude those minors whose parents have advised the promoters that their children are forbidden to attend. But it does not follow that the state has the power to prevent children from hearing or saying anything without their parents’ prior consent.”
The bolded line is Scalia basically saying that Thomas pulled his entire dissent out of his ass. The man's a waste of a SCOTUS justice.
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William Barnett-Lewis Sat, Sep 22, 2012 6:48:19pm |
re: #92 Lidane
I really wonder, in my moments when I feel conspiracy theory minded, if the Republicans didn't set off the whole Anita Hill thing to avoid having to deal with how utterly incompetent he was and is.
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bratwurst Sat, Sep 22, 2012 6:49:00pm |
re: #92 Lidane
Thomas is useless and a waste of space on the SCOTUS bench. Read his dissent for Brown v. Entertainment Merchants Association sometime. It's so far out of whack from everything else that I'm convinced he didn't pay attention to what the hell was being argued at all. It's also so poorly written and reasoned that even Scalia bitch slaps him for it:
The bolded line is Scalia basically saying that Thomas pulled his entire dissent out of his ass. The man's a waste of a SCOTUS justice.
Well nobody can criticize his oral questioning...primarily because he hasn't uttered a word since February, 2006.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Sep 22, 2012 6:51:41pm |
re: #97 William Barnett-Lewis
I really wonder, in my moments when I feel conspiracy theory minded, if the Republicans didn't set off the whole Anita Hill thing to avoid having to deal with how utterly incompetent he was and is.
No, that sort of maneuver would have had far too little reward for the cost it would have (and did) incur and the potential risks if it was found out. No, if Bush had been that dissatisfied with Clarence Thomas he would have just withdrawn the nomination. George the Elder is not a Machiavellian man.
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Interesting Times Sat, Sep 22, 2012 6:55:04pm |
re: #70 Charles Johnson
This is turning into the Image Reminiscence thread.
So true! And the last one I uploaded is even more appropriate now ;)
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darthstar Sat, Sep 22, 2012 6:56:15pm |
FBI has its hands on envelopes stuffed with unreported campaign cash in its probe of Florida's GOP Rep. Rivera: miamiherald.com/2012/09/21/301... #FL26— Taniel (@Taniel) September 22, 2012
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Only The Lurker Knows Sat, Sep 22, 2012 6:59:15pm |
Night Lizards. May the Deity of your choice smile down upon you and yours.
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darthstar Sat, Sep 22, 2012 7:04:23pm |
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Gus Sat, Sep 22, 2012 7:05:06pm |
re: #107 darthstar
I don't think that's photoshopped, by the way.
I shopped Obama's head on that. It was originally Reagan's head. FBV posted the Reagan version.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Sep 22, 2012 7:05:41pm |
What about the picture of Michelle Bachmann eating the wiener at the state fair?
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darthstar Sat, Sep 22, 2012 7:05:53pm |
re: #108 Gus
I shopped Obama's head on that. It was originally Reagan's head. FBV posted the Reagan version.
That would make sense...Reagan was alive in the time of velociraptors.
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prairiefire Sat, Sep 22, 2012 7:06:21pm |
My wonderful girl is at her first Homecoming dance, I hope she's navigating the rocky shoals alright.
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darthstar Sat, Sep 22, 2012 7:06:32pm |
re: #109 ggt
What about the picture of Michelle Bachmann eating the wiener at the state fair?
That made her husband so jealous.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Sep 22, 2012 7:09:24pm |
re: #111 darthstar
That would make sense...Reagan was alive in the time of velociraptors.
Of course he was. It was hunting velociraptors that taught him to be a badass and not take shit from commies!
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MittDoesNotCompute Sat, Sep 22, 2012 7:14:41pm |
re: #114 Dark_Falcon
Of course he was. It was hunting velociraptors that taught him to be a badass and not take shit from commies!
No, get it right...Reagan was hunting T-Rex, while riding Velociraptors!
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Killgore Trout Sat, Sep 22, 2012 7:23:30pm |
re: #88 Gus
Ah, yes, The violent extremists who tries to blow up a bridge and firebomb an Obama campaign office. Those were good times.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Sep 22, 2012 7:25:12pm |
US State Dept. blasts CNN report on Stevens' diary
CNN broke a pledge to the late ambassador's family that it wouldn't report on the diary, said State Department spokesman Philippe Reines, a senior adviser to U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton.
In a blistering statement, Reines called CNN's actions "indefensible."
The channel said in the story online that it took "newsworthy tips" from Stevens' diary and confirmed them with other sources. Citing an unidentified source "familiar with Stevens' thinking," CNN said that the ambassador was concerned about security threats in Benghazi and a "rise in Islamic extremism."
In a statement Saturday, CNN defended its use of the journal's contents and asked "why is the State Department now attacking the messenger."
"CNN did not initially report on the existence of a journal out of respect for the family, but we felt there were issues raised in the journal which required full reporting, which we did," the channel said
.
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Gus Sat, Sep 22, 2012 7:25:31pm |
re: #117 Killgore Trout
Ah, yes, The violent extremists who tries to blow up a bridge and firebomb an Obama campaign office. Those were good times.
Run out of weed?
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Daniel Ballard Sat, Sep 22, 2012 7:27:00pm |
Just dropping in after a nice dinner.
Saturday Night and I'm in the mood for some sultry blues
Beth Hart is an LA local lady, just amazing voice.
[Link: www.youtube.com...]
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Sep 22, 2012 7:27:08pm |
re: #117 Killgore Trout
Ah, yes, The violent extremists who tries to blow up a bridge and firebomb an Obama campaign office. Those were good times.
Actually, the vile men who wanted to blow up that bridge planned their attack in secret because they knew Occupy Cleveland would never approve of their terror plan. You can't blame the entire 'movement' for the actions of a handful of nutbars.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Sep 22, 2012 7:28:55pm |
re: #118 Killgore Trout
US State Dept. blasts CNN report on Stevens' diary
.
DoS was stupid to think it could fudge details if CNN could use that diary to confirm them. Try that stunt and the newsnets will nail you for it.
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William Barnett-Lewis Sat, Sep 22, 2012 7:33:29pm |
Charles, I started putting a link to my photos at picasa recenty. However, when I click on my name to check the link it fails because the : between the https & // is missing even though it's in the URL I put it my preferences. Should I be putting it in there sans the "https : //"?
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Killgore Trout Sat, Sep 22, 2012 7:34:29pm |
re: #121 Dark_Falcon
Actually, the vile men who wanted to blow up that bridge planned their attack in secret because they knew Occupy Cleveland would never approve of their terror plan. You can't blame the entire 'movement' for the actions of a handful of nutbars.
Thankfully they were open enough for the feds to show up to the protest, start talking to people and quickly sell them fake explosives. Good enough for me.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Sep 22, 2012 7:36:22pm |
re: #122 Dark_Falcon
DoS was stupid to think it could fudge details if CNN could use that diary to confirm them. Try that stunt and the newsnets will nail you for it.
It looks like a grey area to me. It seems CNN may have broken an agreement with the family.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Sep 22, 2012 7:40:48pm |
re: #125 Killgore Trout
It looks like a grey area to me. It seems CNN may have broken an agreement with the family.
True, and that's immoral. But newspapers and news networks have been breaking that sort of agreement since forever. Sadly, this is just what they do.
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darthstar Sat, Sep 22, 2012 7:41:32pm |
re: #125 Killgore Trout
It looks like a grey area to me. It seems CNN may have broken an agreement with the family.
CNN not to be trusted with sensitive information? Who'dathunk?
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prairiefire Sat, Sep 22, 2012 7:55:21pm |
re: #117 Killgore Trout
Ah, yes, The violent extremists who tries to blow up a bridge and firebomb an Obama campaign office. Those were good times.
It would be great if the Mid East extremists will be as impotent.
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Charles Johnson Sat, Sep 22, 2012 7:56:16pm |
Suspended.
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darthstar Sat, Sep 22, 2012 7:57:46pm |
Mitt Romney doing what he does best...being a dick.
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freetoken Sat, Sep 22, 2012 8:03:58pm |
During my evening constitutional I gazed upon the deeply reddish magenta sunset, knowing full well that the colors were there because of the very dirty air due to pollution from throughout SoCal (and probably some upper atmosphere pollution from the Far East) - but it was still pretty.
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Gus Sat, Sep 22, 2012 8:07:53pm |
re: #134 freetoken
During my evening constitutional I gazed upon the deeply reddish magenta sunset, knowing full well that the colors were there because of the very dirty air due to pollution from throughout SoCal (and probably some upper atmosphere pollution from the Far East) - but it was still pretty.
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prairiefire Sat, Sep 22, 2012 8:15:07pm |
re: #1 Charles Johnson
And a sneak preview of the new LGF Image Library app:
Hey! Those are alotta mine! I think I just used your great code, Charles.
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ozbloke Sat, Sep 22, 2012 8:18:12pm |
re: #120 Daniel Ballard
Just dropping in after a nice dinner.
Saturday Night and I'm in the mood for some sultry blues[Embedded content]
Beth Hart is an LA local lady, just amazing voice.
[Link: www.youtube.com...]
Great Track, do you know who the guitar player is?
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Sep 22, 2012 8:25:45pm |
re: #138 Gus
"Kimberly Kaye"
Fast, maneuverable, long ranged, and packing 6 .50 Cal jackhammers that can turn an APC into Swiss cheese!
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Daniel Ballard Sat, Sep 22, 2012 8:25:52pm |
re: #137 ozbloke
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
I first ran across her on a Joe Bonamassa track
I was impressed but my fave is that session with Les Paul
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Daniel Ballard Sat, Sep 22, 2012 8:28:19pm |
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William Barnett-Lewis Sat, Sep 22, 2012 8:29:09pm |
re: #134 freetoken
During my evening constitutional I gazed upon the deeply reddish magenta sunset, knowing full well that the colors were there because of the very dirty air due to pollution from throughout SoCal (and probably some upper atmosphere pollution from the Far East) - but it was still pretty.
Quite red and orange in the western sky at sunset here too. I'm presuming it's all the various fires doing it.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Sep 22, 2012 8:36:14pm |
re: #143 William Barnett-Lewis
Quite red and orange in the western sky at sunset here too. I'm presuming it's all the various fires doing it.
Maybe,, maybe not
Spent the week on the shores of South Carolina and each night from Tuesday through last night the evening western sky was the same way!
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Sep 22, 2012 8:38:04pm |
My most sincere apologies for being a fucking asshole this morning. I should have stayed in bed. How I'm not ruling the bottom comments is beyond me.
And Good Evening Honcos
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sattv4u2 Sat, Sep 22, 2012 8:40:04pm |
re: #145 Cannadian Club Akbar
My most sincere apologies for being a fucking asshole this morning. I should have stayed in bed. How I'm not ruling the bottom comments is beyond me.
And Good Evening Honcos
Just shows to go ya
No matter how big a fucking asshole you think you are, there are bigger ones !!!
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Sep 22, 2012 8:41:22pm |
re: #146 sattv4u2
Just shows to go ya
No matter how big a fucking asshole you think you are, there are bigger ones !!!
Yea. I just quoted one.
/
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sattv4u2 Sat, Sep 22, 2012 8:43:05pm |
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Sep 22, 2012 8:46:19pm |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Sep 22, 2012 8:47:29pm |
This is horrible. If you're in a good mood, don't click.
[Link: www2.tbo.com...]
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darthstar Sat, Sep 22, 2012 8:50:12pm |
re: #150 Dark_Falcon
Ryan's plan deals with Medicare, not Social Security.
No, he also addressed Social Security...but yes, most of the boos had to do with his wanting to dismantle Medicare (for our own good, of course).
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sagehen Sat, Sep 22, 2012 8:52:26pm |
re: #101 Dark_Falcon
No, that sort of maneuver would have had far too little reward for the cost it would have (and did) incur and the potential risks if it was found out. No, if Bush had been that dissatisfied with Clarence Thomas he would have just withdrawn the nomination. George the Elder is not a Machiavellian man.
Not a Machiavellian man? Seriously?
Ambassador to the UN and Chairman of the RNC under Nixon, envoy to China and then Director of the CIA under Ford...
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Sep 22, 2012 8:54:36pm |
re: #151 Cannadian Club Akbar
This is horrible. If you're in a good mood, don't click.
[Link: www2.tbo.com...]
Facing a felony charge can sometimes leave a person depressed and ultimately suicidal, even if they didn't commit the crime they are accused of, The legal process is strange and hard to understand for someone not used to it, and the idea that what actually happened may be less important than what can be shown in court is sometimes terribly disheartening.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Sep 22, 2012 8:56:04pm |
re: #153 sagehen
Not a Machiavellian man? Seriously?
Ambassador to the UN and Chairman of the RNC under Nixon, envoy to China and then Director of the CIA under Ford...
Yes, seriously. He's an honest fellow at his core and wouldn't opt for a complicated and risky conspiracy over just pulling a nominee.
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goddamnedfrank Sat, Sep 22, 2012 8:56:23pm |
re: #150 Dark_Falcon
Ryan's plan deals with Medicare, not Social Security.
His older plans dealt with privatization, but he's dropped only recently because it's been proven to be such a loser. Still, old people have memories and aren't going to be quick to forget that Ryan once gave his full throated support to such a pig ignorant proposal.
Representative Paul Ryan has long wanted to let Americans invest part of their Social Security taxes in private investment accounts. After legislation he co-sponsored in 2005 went nowhere, Ryan included a detailed plan to privatize Social Security in his budget proposal in 2010. Under that plan, he would allow workers to funnel an average of roughly 40% of their payroll taxes into personal retirement accounts.
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ozbloke Sat, Sep 22, 2012 8:59:35pm |
re: #142 Daniel Ballard
Have you got spotify?
[Link: open.spotify.com...]
In I wanna know you its Les Paul
Thanks for the reply, no I don't have spotify.
I'm an android user, and can put whatever I want on my damn phone!
Its a great track, some of her tones remind me of Janis.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Sep 22, 2012 9:00:08pm |
re: #156 goddamnedfrank
His older plans dealt with privatization, but he's dropped only recently because it's been proven to be such a loser. Still, old people have memories and aren't going to be quick to forget that Ryan once gave his full throated support to such a pig ignorant proposal.
Coupled with a way to move 401 (k) funds into such an account, that idea has some real promise, though it poses risks as well.
But why would those already retired worry? A key part of every plan Paul Ryan has rolled out is that the benefit structure for current retirees will not be changed.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Sep 22, 2012 9:04:30pm |
re: #153 sagehen
Not a Machiavellian man? Seriously?
Ambassador to the UN and Chairman of the RNC under Nixon, envoy to China and then Director of the CIA under Ford...
IIRC, he also did a stint in Congress. (sorry for the late response, I got the BSOD)
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goddamnedfrank Sat, Sep 22, 2012 9:05:58pm |
re: #158 Dark_Falcon
Coupled with a way to move 401 (k) funds into such an account, that idea has some real promise, though it poses risks as well.
But why would those already retired worry? A key part of every plan Paul Ryan has rolled out is that the benefit structure for current retirees will not be changed.
It's a shit idea, exposing the SS system to the risks of the market. If it had been in play in 2008/9 many more people's lives would have been destroyed. Many retired people worry because they have souls. They aren't the purely self interested pieces of trash that the Republicans want them to be. They have children, spouses, siblings and friends that aren't retired yet, so the "I've got mine, fuck everyone else" point of view doesn't drive their every decision. I understand that you either can't see this or don't want to, and that's sad because I think it should be obvious to anybody with a modicum of empathy.
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blueraven Sat, Sep 22, 2012 9:07:12pm |
re: #158 Dark_Falcon
Coupled with a way to move 401 (k) funds into such an account, that idea has some real promise, though it poses risks as well.
But why would those already retired worry? A key part of every plan Paul Ryan has rolled out is that the benefit structure for current retirees will not be changed.
I am always surprised when people ask this question. You do realize that some senior citizens have children, or brothers/sisters, wives or husbands who may be in the age group that might soon be affected by these changes, right?
It's like people think seniors only care about themselves.
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Coracle Sat, Sep 22, 2012 9:10:05pm |
re: #161 blueraven
It's like people think seniors only care about themselves.
"People" is way too inclusive. The conservative establishment. And it's because that's the way they think themselves.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Sep 22, 2012 9:15:15pm |
re: #160 goddamnedfrank
It's a shit idea, exposing the SS system to the risks of the market. If it had been in play in 2008/9 many more people's lives would have been destroyed. Many retired people worry because they have souls. They aren't the purely self interested pieces of trash that the Republicans want them to be. They have children, spouses, siblings and friends that aren't retired yet, so the "I've got mine, fuck everyone else" point of view doesn't drive their every decision. I understand that you either can't see this or don't want to, and that's sad because I think it should be obvious to anybody with a modicum of empathy.
Well, obviously you'd have to have safeguards, such as not allowing monies that would have other wise gone into Social Security to be used for risky investments such as derivatives. You'd also have to have more effective financial regulation than I believe we have right now. To my mind, before privatization could be really discussed, we'd have to have removed the problem of institutions that are 'too big to fail'.
Interesting paradox, no? To privatize you have to regulate. Of course that won't surprise you, Frank, but some people would suffer a rage paroxysm at the idea.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Sep 22, 2012 9:17:23pm |
re: #163 Dark_Falcon
Well, obviously you'd have to have safeguards, such as not allowing monies that would have other wise gone into Social Security to be used for risky investments such as derivatives. You'd also have to have more effective financial regulation than I believe we have right now. To my mind, before privatization could be really discussed, we'd have to have removed the problem of institutions that are 'too big to fail'.
Interesting paradox, no? To privatize you have to regulate. Of course that won't surprise you, Frank, but some people would suffer a rage paroxysm at the idea.
Good name for a band.
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goddamnedfrank Sat, Sep 22, 2012 9:22:57pm |
When you think about it the response Ryan got from the AARP was kind of amazing. It's not like they're a notoriously rowdy bunch, but they weren't having any of what he was selling. In comparison Romney got a far better reaction from the NAACP, and that crowd was rightfully pissed off at the condescending bullshit he was spewing. But they mostly held themselves in check, and predominately confined their reactions to facial expressions. On the other hand I think the AARP felt that they were being cynically used and had no intention of holding back on their disapproval.
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darthstar Sat, Sep 22, 2012 9:25:57pm |
It feels good to be the NL West champions with 10 games left in the season. The Dodgers paid a lot of money to come in second...just like Mitt Romney.
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sagehen Sat, Sep 22, 2012 9:27:27pm |
Odd, right? That people at an AARP convention might fully understand the details of how medicare currently operates and the specifics of anybody else's ideas about any way they'd want to change it.
Go figure.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Sep 22, 2012 9:30:49pm |
It's funny that AARP doesn't want privatized SS yet they pimp investment firms that depend on the market.
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darthstar Sat, Sep 22, 2012 9:34:44pm |
re: #166 darthstar
It feels good to be the NL West champions with 10 games left in the season. The Dodgers paid a lot of money to come in second...just like Mitt Romney.
How you celebrate the orange and black clinching the NL West...an orange float.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Sep 22, 2012 9:36:38pm |
re: #169 darthstar
How you celebrate the orange and black clinching the NL West...an orange float.
When I was in skool I would put orange juice in my vanilla ice cream. Tasted like sherbert. Yummy.
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goddamnedfrank Sat, Sep 22, 2012 9:42:09pm |
re: #168 Cannadian Club Akbar
It's funny that AARP doesn't want privatized SS yet they pimp investment firms that depend on the market.
Funny how? It's called hedging one's bets, making sure a minimal social safety net isn't risked for the poor while showing members with the financial means to invest where else they can look for greater gains.
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Mich-again Sat, Sep 22, 2012 9:46:14pm |
re: #167 sagehen
Odd, right? That people at an AARP convention might fully understand the details of how medicare currently operates and the specifics of anybody else's ideas about any way they'd want to change it.
Go figure.
One small example of waste.. Medicare has covered costs for some medical equipment my mom needed. But they rented the equipment monthly and ended up paying 4 times the retail price in rental costs before she ended up owning it.
Can't the US government strike a better deal for all that Medicare rent to own business? That's a worse deal than the rent-to-own furniture store at the strip mall offers anyone who walks in the door.
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JamesWI Sat, Sep 22, 2012 9:48:55pm |
New Rule: If your great-grandpa had 5 wives, you don't get to claim that "marriage has been between one man and one woman for 3,000 years."
— Jason Febery (@JasonFebery) September 23, 2012
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Sep 22, 2012 9:50:05pm |
re: #171 goddamnedfrank
Funny how? It's called hedging one's bets, making sure a minimal social safety net isn't risked for the poor while showing members with the financial means to invest where else they can look for greater gains.
"I do not favor 'privatization' of Social Security,'' Mr. Bush wrote last month in the AARP Bulletin. "Those workers who do not want a personal account would continue to receive their benefits from the federally administered Social Security system. Even those who choose a personal account would continue to draw traditional Social Security benefits.''
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]
Hmm....
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Sep 22, 2012 9:51:58pm |
re: #173 JamesWI
Ya wanna know what's fucked up? I have never been married but know at least 4 ugly mother fuckers that have at least 3 Exs.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Sep 22, 2012 9:56:58pm |
All righty. I'm out. I have to piss off people in the AM.
///
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goddamnedfrank Sat, Sep 22, 2012 9:57:19pm |
re: #174 Cannadian Club Akbar
"I do not favor 'privatization' of Social Security,'' Mr. Bush wrote last month in the AARP Bulletin. "Those workers who do not want a personal account would continue to receive their benefits from the federally administered Social Security system. Even those who choose a personal account would continue to draw traditional Social Security benefits.''
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]Hmm....
Hmm what? He was trying to sell the impossible, which is why nobody bought it, least of all the AARP.
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dragonath Sat, Sep 22, 2012 10:00:11pm |
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Sat, Sep 22, 2012 10:06:07pm |
re: #158 Dark_Falcon
Coupled with a way to move 401 (k) funds into such an account, that idea has some real promise, though it poses risks as well.
But why would those already retired worry? A key part of every plan Paul Ryan has rolled out is that the benefit structure for current retirees will not be changed.
Maybe they aren't brain-dead selfish and have descendants that they care about, perhaps children and grandchildren that *are* going to be affected?
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Sep 22, 2012 10:26:51pm |
re: #179 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste
Maybe they aren't brain-dead selfish and have descendants that they care about, perhaps children and grandchildren that *are* going to be affected?
But why take such a 'doomish' view of it? Personalization would be a way to ensure that Social Security* survives in the long term and could also serve as an injector
*: The operative phrase is "long term". Social Security is in a good deal better shape than Medicare.
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dragonath Sat, Sep 22, 2012 10:32:54pm |
Let's invest our long term futures in a system that rewards short term profit. What could possibly go wrong?
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freetoken Sat, Sep 22, 2012 10:35:30pm |
I wonder what would happen if we did a massive redistribution of the entire money supply ("M4" or "L") evenly across the entire population, in one fell swoop?
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goddamnedfrank Sat, Sep 22, 2012 10:37:42pm |
re: #180 Dark_Falcon
Personalization would be a way to ensure that Social Security* survives in the long term and could also serve as an injector
It ensures nothing but risk. Removing the SS salary cap entirely on the other hand would ensure that the program survives forever.
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sagehen Sat, Sep 22, 2012 10:41:12pm |
re: #184 freetoken
I wonder what would happen if we did a massive redistribution of the entire money supply ("M4" or "L") evenly across the entire population, in one fell swoop?
There's approximately $60T total private-sector wealth in the country, and the top 1% owns about 30% of it. That's $18T.
Enough to pay off the entire national debt, plus all of next year's budget.
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Mich-again Sat, Sep 22, 2012 10:42:44pm |
re: #184 freetoken
I wonder what would happen if we did a massive redistribution of the entire money supply ("M4" or "L") evenly across the entire population, in one fell swoop?
Thomas Jefferson made the case that people have no natural claim to any of their wealth or property after they die. The earth belongs to the living. If the government chooses to let your heirs have it, fine. But that isn't a natural right.
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Gus Sat, Sep 22, 2012 10:44:47pm |
re: #187 sagehen
There's approximately $60T total private-sector wealth in the country, and the top 1% owns about 30% of it. That's $18T.
Enough to pay off the entire national debt, plus all of next year's budget.
42.7%
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sagehen Sat, Sep 22, 2012 10:45:00pm |
re: #188 Mich-again
Thomas Jefferson made the case that people have no natural claim to any of their wealth or property after they die. The earth belongs to the living. If the government chooses to let your heirs have it, fine. But that isn't a natural right.
Andrew Carnegie thought so too, that's why he was so vehement about establishing an inheritence tax. If you didn't want the government to take it all when you die, his view was "So then give it away before you die. Don't let there be anything left for them to take. Problem solved."
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Mocking Jay Sat, Sep 22, 2012 10:45:22pm |
re: #188 Mich-again
Thomas Jefferson made the case that people have no natural claim to any of their wealth or property after they die. The earth belongs to the living. If the government chooses to let your heirs have it, fine. But that isn't a natural right.
Mind boggling that we can't even have a tax on that without people pitching a fit.
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sagehen Sat, Sep 22, 2012 10:47:11pm |
re: #189 Gus
42.7%
okay, let's not take *everything* they own. Let them each keep a 4-bedroom split-level in an upscale suburb, a couple of cars, and enough cash to cover their kids college tuition.
If they were capable of earning vast fortunes once (if they didn't just inherit it), they should be able to earn it again.
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Mocking Jay Sat, Sep 22, 2012 10:48:48pm |
SNL takes a dump on the undecideds.
[Link: www.mediaite.com...]
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goddamnedfrank Sat, Sep 22, 2012 10:57:11pm |
re: #193 Mocking Jay
SNL takes a dump on the undecideds.
[Link: www.mediaite.com...]
David Sedaris nailed them in 2008:
To put them in perspective, I think of being on an airplane. The flight attendant comes down the aisle with her food cart and, eventually, parks it beside my seat. “Can I interest you in the chicken?” she asks. “Or would you prefer the platter of shit with bits of broken glass in it?”
To be undecided in this election is to pause for a moment and then ask how the chicken is cooked.
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Gus Sat, Sep 22, 2012 10:58:52pm |
re: #192 sagehen
okay, let's not take *everything* they own. Let them each keep a 4-bedroom split-level in an upscale suburb, a couple of cars, and enough cash to cover their kids college tuition.
If they were capable of earning vast fortunes once (if they didn't just inherit it), they should be able to earn it again.
I don't have an answer. No matter what system we concoct humans have a tendency for selfishness. Altruism is not the norm and greed is. If you set up a system that controlled something like this the people controlling it would end up being the hoarders through corruption and graft. We like to think everything is made up of sweetness and light but the reality is that this is a dog eat dog world. Social Darwinism is the game everyone plays. From competing corporations to competing drug dealers. People just aren't nice. In the end it doesn't matter because if it does it leads to madness.
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Gus Sat, Sep 22, 2012 11:01:09pm |
The world is like a party where everybody thinks they're cooler than you.
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Kragar Sat, Sep 22, 2012 11:07:13pm |
Note to self:
Drop Pods, paint first, assemble second.
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Mich-again Sat, Sep 22, 2012 11:09:36pm |
re: #180 Dark_Falcon
But why take such a 'doomish' view of it? Personalization would be a way to ensure that Social Security* survives in the long term and could also serve as an injector
So you support Personalization injectors?
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Sep 22, 2012 11:13:03pm |
re: #199 Mich-again
So you support Personalization injectors?
re: #180 Dark_Falcon
But why take such a 'doomish' view of it? Personalization would be a way to ensure that Social Security* survives in the long term and could also serve as an injector of capital into the economy.
*: The operative phrase is "long term". Social Security is in a good deal better shape than Medicare.
Sorry, I forgot to post that bolded bit.
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Gus Sat, Sep 22, 2012 11:13:33pm |
We love gas powered cooking in luxury homes and apartment. Even in demo kitchens in millennial housing. Yet they oppose fracking that comes with it. I love humans. They're so contradictory.
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Gus Sat, Sep 22, 2012 11:16:19pm |
Complain about Chinese labor one minute. The next minute go gaga about the latest iPhone release. Give me a break.
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goddamnedfrank Sat, Sep 22, 2012 11:20:48pm |
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Sep 22, 2012 11:27:52pm |
re: #206 Gus
Morons.
When is Angelina Jolie a moron: When she's going to foreign countries and raising funds for their aid or when she's acting?
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Gus Sat, Sep 22, 2012 11:28:39pm |
re: #207 Dark_Falcon
When is Angelina Jolie a moron: When she's going to foreign countries and raising funds for their aid or when she's acting?
Not the point. But now that you mention it. Fuck charity.
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Mich-again Sat, Sep 22, 2012 11:30:04pm |
re: #200 Dark_Falcon
Some have a choice at retirement for either a lump sum payout now or a monthly pension check till they die. Think about that.. If you drink and smoke and eat too much and carouse all your days, you might as well take the lump sum when you retire and just go out with a bang. But, if you avoid all the bad habits and take good care of yourself it might make more sense to choose the monthly check forever.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Sep 22, 2012 11:30:30pm |
re: #209 Gus
Charity is part of the problem.
How so? Because left unadorned that sounds like something Ayn Rand might say.
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Gus Sat, Sep 22, 2012 11:30:58pm |
re: #211 Dark_Falcon
How so? Because left unadorned that sounds like something Ayn Rand might say.
Because it keeps people in reliance of charity.
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Gus Sat, Sep 22, 2012 11:31:42pm |
re: #211 Dark_Falcon
How so? Because left unadorned that sounds like something Ayn Rand might say.
Might be hard for you to understand. You've been conditioned to accept chairty as an acceptable system.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Sep 22, 2012 11:33:39pm |
re: #213 Gus
Might be hard for you to understand. You've been conditioned to accept chairty as an acceptable system.
OK, now you really sound like Ayn Rand.
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Mich-again Sat, Sep 22, 2012 11:34:06pm |
re: #212 Gus
Because it keeps people in reliance of charity.
There is so much fraud in the charitable organization system that we ought to just blow it all up and start over from scratch.
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Gus Sat, Sep 22, 2012 11:36:10pm |
re: #216 Mich-again
There is so much fraud in the charitable organization system that we ought to just blow it all up and start over from scratch.
Charity is a method in which the wealthy class keep the poor masses under control.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Sep 22, 2012 11:38:17pm |
re: #217 Gus
Charity is a method in which the wealthy class keep the poor masses under control.
Who are you and what have you done with Gus?
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Mich-again Sat, Sep 22, 2012 11:38:21pm |
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion..
Yeah right. Donating money to a church reduces your income tax bill. Which means that the rest of the taxpayers subsidize your church too. How does a tax break for church contributions not constitute the Government respecting an establishment of religion?
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freetoken Sat, Sep 22, 2012 11:39:30pm |
In this alternate reality in which we find ourselves tonight, one almost expects to find Elvis as a lounge singer on a cruise ship....
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Kragar Sat, Sep 22, 2012 11:40:34pm |
I'd prefer effective government programs taking care of its citizens as opposed to charity.
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Mich-again Sat, Sep 22, 2012 11:41:06pm |
re: #217 Gus
Charity is a method in which the wealthy class keep the poor masses under control.
I disagree. The most generous people are usually the poorest people, they will share anything they have. The stingiest are usually the richest.
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Gus Sat, Sep 22, 2012 11:41:29pm |
re: #219 Dark_Falcon
Who are you and what have you done with Gus?
It's true. Charity is just a feel good system for a broken system. Yes, there are times when there's a need for charity. But overall the system of charity is simply a system created to make the ruling classes feel good for a broken system that would make charity largely unavoidable. We created charity to maintain a system of wealth.
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bratwurst Sat, Sep 22, 2012 11:41:35pm |
re: #217 Gus
Charity is a method in which the wealthy class keep the poor masses under control.
While there are certainly many cases (past and present) where this could be seen to be so, that hardly leads to such a sweeping generalization.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Sep 22, 2012 11:41:40pm |
re: #220 Mich-again
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion..
Yeah right. Donating money to a church reduces your income tax bill. Which means that the rest of the taxpayers subsidize your church too. How does a tax break for church contributions not constitute the Government respecting an establishment of religion?
Because you can also donate to non-religious charities and still get the same tax break. The tax law does not discriminate in favor of religious charities.
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Gus Sat, Sep 22, 2012 11:42:04pm |
re: #225 bratwurst
While there are certainly many cases (past and present) where this could be seen to be so, that hardly leads to such a sweeping generalization.
I don't expect you to see it right away.
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Mich-again Sat, Sep 22, 2012 11:43:00pm |
re: #226 Dark_Falcon
Because you can also donate to non-religious charities and still get the same tax break. The tax law does not discriminate in favor of religious charities.
Discriminating in favor of is not the same thing as respecting.
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bratwurst Sat, Sep 22, 2012 11:44:55pm |
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Sep 22, 2012 11:45:18pm |
re: #222 Kragar
I'd prefer effective government programs taking care of its citizens as opposed to charity.
I wouldn't. Better that the needy be aided by a private charity than the government. Sometimes government can do good in such matters, and there are some safety net functions private charity cannot handle; But if one is to choose, it is better to keep things private.
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Gus Sat, Sep 22, 2012 11:45:22pm |
re: #229 bratwurst
Thanks for the insult.
@gus_802 @youtube oy Gus - it should be taken in a tall glass LIVE youtu.be/z9NgV_GJhzI— The Irish Rovers(@TheIrishRovers) September 23, 2012
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bratwurst Sat, Sep 22, 2012 11:48:06pm |
How long until someone invents a USB breathalyzer that will need to be used prior to getting online? Some might say it is overdue.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Sep 22, 2012 11:48:28pm |
re: #228 Mich-again
Discriminating in favor of is not the same thing as respecting.
Neither is allowing a tax deduction "establishment". The government is providing a tax incentive to those who give charity to help others. Whether a gift to an organization qualifies depends on the services the organization provides, not on what its religion professes.
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Mich-again Sat, Sep 22, 2012 11:49:09pm |
re: #224 Gus
It's true. Charity is just a feel good system for a broken system. Yes, there are times when there's a need for charity. But overall the system of charity is simply a system created to make the ruling classes feel good for a broken system that would make charity largely unavoidable. We created charity to maintain a system of wealth.
I think there should be a hard limit for the tax break for charity. Say $1 million for example. If you can afford to give charitable organizations more than $1 million of your income any given year, than you can afford to pay taxes on that amount as well.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Sep 22, 2012 11:50:52pm |
re: #233 bratwurst
How long until someone invents a USB breathalyzer that will need to be used prior to getting online? Some might say it is overdue.
Please don't give MADD any ideas! ///
[serious]If you think someone ought to invoke the Iron Fist Rule and sign off for the night tell them so.[/serious]
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Mich-again Sat, Sep 22, 2012 11:51:07pm |
re: #234 Dark_Falcon
Neither is allowing a tax deduction "establishment". The government is providing a tax incentive to those who give charity to help others. Whether a gift to an organization qualifies depends on the services the organization provides, not on what its religion professes.
If that statement was so overwhelmingly false I might spend the time to refute it in detail.
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sagehen Sat, Sep 22, 2012 11:52:32pm |
re: #222 Kragar
I'd prefer effective government programs taking care of its citizens as opposed to charity.
As would I... for religious reasons, oddly enough.
There's a belief in Judaism that while yes, of course those who have more than they need should spread it around to those who have less than they need... giving should be, to whatever degree possible, double blind. Thus the scriptural directive to not be too thorough in harvesting one's fields, so there'll be something there for people to come pick at after you've gone in the house and don't see who needed it that badly, and the story about Rabbi Akiva dropping food on doorsteps and running and hiding before the household can see who left the package for them. Something about dignity, and people being able to face each other as equals.
Government agencies, funded by an appropriately progressive tax rate, can be a good pass-through to achieve double-blind redistribution.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Sep 22, 2012 11:52:39pm |
re: #237 Mich-again
If that statement was so overwhelmingly false I might spend the time to refute it in detail.
Sir, I was not being dishonest. If I am in error please tell me so, but do know I did not lie to you.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Sep 22, 2012 11:55:41pm |
re: #238 Gus
I'm laughing.
Would you kindly stop downdinging me, or at least tell me why you are doing it?
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goddamnedfrank Sat, Sep 22, 2012 11:59:00pm |
re: #234 Dark_Falcon
Neither is allowing a tax deduction "establishment". The government is providing a tax incentive to those who give charity to help others. Whether a gift to an organization qualifies depends on the services the organization provides, not on what its religion professes.
Charity is only one of many qualifying purposes under 501 c 3, religion is another. You're presenting a mutual exclusion where it simply doesn't exist. You should really look these things up before spouting off, they're a simple google search away.
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Gus Sat, Sep 22, 2012 11:59:09pm |
re: #241 Dark_Falcon
Would you kindly stop downdinging me, or at least tell me why you are doing it?
Because I sided with you on many occasions. Yet now you freely feel the need to stab my in the back. You're on your own from now on. I was charitable to you and you know it.
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Mich-again Sun, Sep 23, 2012 12:01:07am |
re: #240 Dark_Falcon
Sir, I was not being dishonest. If I am in error please tell me so, but do know I did not lie to you.
OK, well lets just say I do not think the primary objective of many if any religious organizations is to do charity work without evangelizing at the same time.
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prairiefire Sun, Sep 23, 2012 12:02:48am |
re: #175 Cannadian Club Akbar
Ya wanna know what's fucked up? I have never been married but know at least 4 ugly mother fuckers that have at least 3 Exs.
So are you saying your beautiful or just too hard to please?
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Mich-again Sun, Sep 23, 2012 12:04:47am |
re: #242 goddamnedfrank
Charity is only one of many qualifying purposes under 501 c 3, religion is another. You're presenting a mutual exclusion where it simply doesn't exist. You should really look these things up before spouting off, they're a simple google search away.
I say just blow it all up. No more tax deductions for religious contributions. If you are donating in order to save your soul, the tax deduction should be a trivial matter.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Sep 23, 2012 12:08:56am |
re: #243 Gus
Because I sided with you on many occasions. Yet now you freely feel the need to stab my in the back. You're on your own from now on. I was charitable to you and you know it.
I apologize sir. I meant no treachery. You seemed to come out of left-field with what you were saying, and it startled me. I am grateful for the times you've supported me, and I was not trying to run you down. If I ended up doing so, I am sorry for having done so.
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Gus Sun, Sep 23, 2012 12:09:24am |
re: #248 Dark_Falcon
I apologize sir. I meant no treachery. You seemed to come out of left-field with what you were saying, and it startled me. I am grateful for the times you've supported me, and I was not trying to run you down. If I ended up doing so, I am sorry for having done so.
Too late.
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researchok Sun, Sep 23, 2012 12:13:59am |
I don't know what the fracas is about, but downdinging Gus is like pissing on Santa Claus. Your always better for the experience even if you aren't a believer.
He is one of the more intellectually honest people you'll ever meet, anywhere.
You can disagree, argue and go head to head but it's always about the idea and never the personalty. He is smart enough to never need to do that.
Ever.
Yeah, I'm biased.
You may now resume regularly scheduled whatever.
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goddamnedfrank Sun, Sep 23, 2012 12:18:45am |
What we really need to end tax deductions for is gambling losses, including losses on capital investments. The State shouldn't be in the business of subsidizing risk.
Also 501 c 3's should not be allowed to flout the law and enter into politics like the LDS did with CA prop 8.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Sep 23, 2012 12:26:02am |
re: #250 researchok
I don't know what the fracas is about, but downdinging Gus is like pissing on Santa Claus. Your always better for the experience even if you aren't a believer.
He is one of the more intellectually honest people you'll ever meet, anywhere.
You can disagree, argue and go head to head but it's always about the idea and never the personalty. He is smart enough to never need to do that.
Ever.
Yeah, I'm biased.
You may now resume regularly scheduled whatever.
I agree with you. But he shocked me at first and things went downhill from there. But what I said about him sounding like Ayn Rand was too hostile and I was wrong to do so. For all that I've gotten better at social interaction, I've still got a long way to go.
Gus, I am sorry for having spoken to you in such a manner. You didn't deserve it. If it's too late, then it is. But I admit my fault anyways, because you deserve an apology.
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ozbloke Sun, Sep 23, 2012 12:27:34am |
re: #251 goddamnedfrank
What we really need to end tax deductions for is gambling losses
Wait WHAT!
Gambling losses are tax deductible?
Lookout baby, here I come Las Vegas.
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Kragar Sun, Sep 23, 2012 12:39:39am |
Managed to jab under my thumbnail with an xacto knife. Big fun.
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researchok Sun, Sep 23, 2012 12:40:08am |
Posting, reading the news and watching Parking Wars.
Like hash, only better.
All that's missing is fried chicken.
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researchok Sun, Sep 23, 2012 12:41:01am |
re: #254 Kragar
As my father would say, "Good thing you don't work with explosives'.
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Kragar Sun, Sep 23, 2012 12:54:25am |
re: #256 researchok
As my father would say, "Good thing you don't work with explosives'.
Well, not often anymore.
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freetoken Sun, Sep 23, 2012 12:57:08am |
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Kragar Sun, Sep 23, 2012 2:52:30am |
Been reading the sneak peek info for the new chaos codex. Cultists, new veteran abilities and weapon beasts all over. I can bring my Night Lords back into play.
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sattv4u2 Sun, Sep 23, 2012 3:53:58am |
re: #261 Kragar
Been reading the sneak peek info for the new chaos codex. Cultists, new veteran abilities and weapon beasts all over. I can bring my Night Lords back into play.
show off!!
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PhillyPretzel Sun, Sep 23, 2012 4:59:45am |
re: #255 researchok
I am watching PBS. North American Railroads and a local railroad, New Hope and Ivyland Railroad was featured. [Link: www.newhoperailroad.com...]
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Dire Straits Sun, Sep 23, 2012 5:11:38am |
Personally I think that government should do away with lotteries. I see too many people who can barely make ends meet, blowing way too much money on lottery tickets.
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Mich-again Sun, Sep 23, 2012 5:20:37am |
re: #251 goddamnedfrank
What we really need to end tax deductions for is gambling losses, including losses on capital investments. The State shouldn't be in the business of subsidizing risk.
Also 501 c 3's should not be allowed to flout the law and enter into politics like the LDS did with CA prop 8.
I believe you can only claim gambling losses to offset large wins that would otherwise be taxed as income.
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Shropshire_Slasher Sun, Sep 23, 2012 5:53:17am |
Who left all these red solo cups all over the damn place. Why does everyone insist on leaving a swallow and a half in the damn cans!?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Sep 23, 2012 5:54:59am |
re: #264 Dire Straits
Personally I think that government should do away with lotteries. I see too many people who can barely make ends meet, blowing way too much money on lottery tickets.
The lottery is just a tax on the poor.
And good morning honcos.
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William Barnett-Lewis Sun, Sep 23, 2012 6:10:21am |
re: #267 Cannadian Club Akbar
The lottery is just a tax on the poor.
And good morning honcos.
More like a tax on the mathematically illiterate. That skews to the poor but I have known plenty who weren't poor who waste money foolishly on lotteries. A even bigger problem right now is that, in an effort to make people quit, taxes on tobacco have gone so high that cigarettes can consume as much as 25% of people's income. Unintended consequences and all that.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Sep 23, 2012 6:13:51am |
re: #268 William Barnett-Lewis
More like a tax on the mathematically illiterate. That skews to the poor but I have known plenty who weren't poor who waste money foolishly on lotteries. A even bigger problem right now is that, in an effort to make people quit, taxes on tobacco have gone so high that cigarettes can consume as much as 25% of people's income. Unintended consequences and all that.
Alouette posted a page about the tobacco taxes. The rise in tobacco taxes also forced a cigar maker in Tampa close after 100 or so years. I think they laid off 500 people.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Sep 23, 2012 6:15:15am |
re: #269 Cannadian Club Akbar
Alouette posted a page about the tobacco taxes. The rise in tobacco taxes also forced a cigar maker in Tampa close after 100 or so years. I think they laid off 500 people.
[Link: www2.tbo.com...]
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Sep 23, 2012 6:28:50am |
UFO Secrets To Be Revealed At National Atomic Testing Museum
Four retired Army and Air Force colonels and a former British Ministry of Defense investigator join forces this weekend at the National Atomic Testing Museum to speak on a subject public officials rarely address -- UFOs.
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]
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William Barnett-Lewis Sun, Sep 23, 2012 6:30:09am |
BBL. Got a Sunday School class that won't teach itself.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Sep 23, 2012 6:38:44am |
Watch Guy Boucher’s awesome hockey stick baseball pitch at Tampa Bay Rays game (VIDEO)
On Friday night, Tampa Bay Lightning head coach Guy Boucher was invited to throw out the first pitch at the Tampa Bay Rays' home game against the Toronto Blue Jays, in celebration of the Bolts' 20th anniversary season. (Which, thanks to the NHL's second lockout in seven years, sadly may not happen.)
[Link: sports.yahoo.com...]
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makeitstop Sun, Sep 23, 2012 6:47:44am |
re: #273 Cannadian Club Akbar
Watch Guy Boucher’s awesome hockey stick baseball pitch at Tampa Bay Rays game (VIDEO)
On Friday night, Tampa Bay Lightning head coach Guy Boucher was invited to throw out the first pitch at the Tampa Bay Rays' home game against the Toronto Blue Jays, in celebration of the Bolts' 20th anniversary season. (Which, thanks to the NHL's second lockout in seven years, sadly may not happen.)
[Link: sports.yahoo.com...]
Something tells me he could have put a lot more mustard on that if he wanted to.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Sep 23, 2012 6:55:46am |
re: #274 makeitstop
Something tells me he could have put a lot more mustard on that if he wanted to.
I went to a Lightning game and one of the activities was to hit a slap shot and win free tix to another game. You had to hit it something like 70 mph. 3 chances.Growing up in Florida, I never got to play hockey. My result was 3 swings and 3 misses.
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Mocking Jay Sun, Sep 23, 2012 6:56:58am |
re: #273 Cannadian Club Akbar
Watch Guy Boucher’s awesome hockey stick baseball pitch at Tampa Bay Rays game (VIDEO)
On Friday night, Tampa Bay Lightning head coach Guy Boucher was invited to throw out the first pitch at the Tampa Bay Rays' home game against the Toronto Blue Jays, in celebration of the Bolts' 20th anniversary season. (Which, thanks to the NHL's second lockout in seven years, sadly may not happen.)
[Link: sports.yahoo.com...]
Wow. I remember being in high school when the Lightning first started up. Yikes.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Sep 23, 2012 7:00:37am |
re: #276 Mocking Jay
Wow. I remember being in high school when the Lightning first started up. Yikes.
I didn't see snow, that I remembered, until I was 30. But I've been to a game 7. The Lightning used to play at Tropicana field where the Rays play. At one point they had the record for attendance for a single game. I think it was when they first went to the playoffs vs. the Flyers.
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Surabaya Stew Sun, Sep 23, 2012 7:00:37am |
A bit late to the party this is, but I thought my Grandfather would appreciate it. It's taken from an out of print classic by the noted photographer Bernice Abbot.
A great picture of a man in his element that I sadly never met.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Sep 23, 2012 7:02:52am |
Libyan army orders militias out of compounds
Libya's army has given militias and armed groups 48 hours to evacuate military compounds, state property and properties of members of the former regime in Tripoli and surrounding areas, the official LANA news agency said on Sunday.
The announcement came after the Islamist Ansar al-Sharia militia was swept out of its bases in the eastern city of Benghazi on Friday in a surge of anger against the armed groups that still control large parts of Libya more than a year after the overthrow of Muammar Gaddafi.
The army ordered "all individuals and armed groups occupying military compounds, public buildings or property belonging to members of the former regime to evacuate these sites within 48 hours", threatening to use force if the groups did not comply, LANA said.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Sep 23, 2012 7:11:09am |
All righty. I not only get to do dishes and other cleaning, I get to work 12-6 today, ruining most of my football watching. Joy!! See y'all tonight.
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Shiplord Kirel Sun, Sep 23, 2012 7:35:01am |
A message from Lubbock to the civilized world:
Not everyone in Lubbock is clinically insane. Given our weird politics, conspiracy-crazed media, and demonically aggressive yahoo drivers, one might certainly be tempted to think otherwise. I estimate, however, that there are at least 25 rational people here, perhaps as many as 40 if one applies a generous definition of "rational." My neighbor thinks there might be a hundred but he is a tea party type and therefore clinically insane himself.
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PhillyPretzel Sun, Sep 23, 2012 7:35:42am |
re: #278 Surabaya Stew
It is a very lovely picture. :)
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PhillyPretzel Sun, Sep 23, 2012 8:06:56am |
OT: I just posted an article on a loophole in the PA Voter ID laws and quite a few are taking advantage of it. [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
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Mattand Sun, Sep 23, 2012 8:25:11am |
re: #283 PhillyPretzel
OT: I just posted an article on a loophole in the PA Voter ID laws and quite a few are taking advantage of it. [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
Good post. Read the article a few minutes ago.
Maybe I'm interpreting it wrong, but it seems like PA's Voter ID law just opened a hole that would actually allow fraudulent voting.
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Surabaya Stew Sun, Sep 23, 2012 8:28:25am |
re: #282 PhillyPretzel
It is a very lovely picture. :)
Thank you PP! My Grandpa was a figure of (humble) renown in Greenwich Village of the 30's up until the 60's; he passed in 1969, shortly after Stonewall took place 1 block away. By that time, he had moved his store several times, and had changed his focus from swords and guns to furniture and clocks. A few of the swords were discovered by my brother about 15 years ago at the very back of a closet; him and I recently divided them amongst ourselves.
All in all, he was a great man who I never met (as I was born in 1975), yet my family who remembers him tells me that I inherited his passion for antiquity, reading, and all around geekiness about the world. We're he still alive, (he'd be 112), I bet he'd get a kick out of LGF!
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Killgore Trout Sun, Sep 23, 2012 8:28:51am |
Siemens refutes nuke sabotage claims by Iran
Germany's Siemens on Sunday denied allegations by an Iranian lawmaker that it planted explosives in equipment sold to Iran for use in its nuclear program.
"Siemens does not have any business ties with Iran's nuclear program and does not supply any technical equipment for it," a spokesman for the Munich-based multinational company said.
Alaeddin Boroujerdi, head of the Iranian Parliament's national security and foreign policy committee, said on Saturday that intelligence and security officials had detected explosive material inside devices supplied for Iran's nuclear activities.
"It was planned that these devices would explode once used and damage all of our systems, but in the end with the knowledge of our experts, this enemy conspiracy was foiled," Boroujerdi was quoted as saying by ICANA, Iran's parliamentary news agency.
"The Siemens company must be held accountable for its actions," he said.
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darthstar Sun, Sep 23, 2012 8:30:51am |
re: #278 Surabaya Stew
A bit late to the party this is, but I thought my Grandfather would appreciate it. It's taken from an out of print classic by the noted photographer Bernice Abbot.
A great picture of a man in his element that I sadly never met.
That reminds me of my dad's patient (an old gunsmith) who put a new barrel on my .30-06 when I was a teen...took me out in back of his shop, pointed at a stack of axels from old Model-Ts in a pile on the ground, and said, "Pick one."
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kirkspencer Sun, Sep 23, 2012 8:32:08am |
re: #270 Cannadian Club Akbar
[Link: www2.tbo.com...]
And I'm going to call shenanigans on that article.
It's from 2009. June 23 of 2009. It's putting most of the blame on a tax that was put in place on April 1 of 2009 - less than two months earlier.
Actually, it's blaming the SCHIP (which if you recall in 2009 was a big DvR argument) because the SCHIP is funded in part by the tobacco taxes.
Never mind the article happens to note that the company had been losing business for a few years already due to the recession and due to indoor smoking bans in northern climes (people don't smoke cigars outside in the winter).
Did the federal excise tax on tobacco add to the problems? Maybe. Was it the cause of the plant closing? I really doubt it.
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Mattand Sun, Sep 23, 2012 8:35:41am |
re: #194 goddamnedfrank
David Sedaris nailed them in 2008:
To put them in perspective, I think of being on an airplane. The flight attendant comes down the aisle with her food cart and, eventually, parks it beside my seat. “Can I interest you in the chicken?” she asks. “Or would you prefer the platter of shit with bits of broken glass in it?”
To be undecided in this election is to pause for a moment and then ask how the chicken is cooked.
That.
Is.
Brilliant.
The current GOP is being run partly on the theory that W wasn't conservative enough.
Said it before, but how anyone can think of voting Republican this year, after all the damage they did to the country when Bush was in office, is beyond me.
It's literally suicide by stupidity.
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darthstar Sun, Sep 23, 2012 8:37:12am |
re: #289 kirkspencer
You weren't supposed to read the article...just believe it. Why do people who read and comprehend the written word always have to ruin everything for everyone else!
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Kronocide Sun, Sep 23, 2012 8:37:57am |
Every time the media says 47%, an angel gets its wings. An angel made out of rioting Islamists, inflated dollars, and unemployment lines.— benshapiro (@benshapiro) September 23, 2012
Every time a wingnut whines about 'the media' an angel farts out another Patriot Wings lapel to be sold at a Tea Party rally.
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Kronocide Sun, Sep 23, 2012 8:46:58am |
Libya attacks and unraveling of Obama admin's narrative go virtually unmentioned on Sunday shows, with the exception of Fox.What a shock.— National Review (@NRO) September 23, 2012
Indeed. Let's go take a look and see NRO's reportage on Romney's polling and see how well he's doing.
... oh yes, what a shock. Alternate reality, Wingnut version.
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darthstar Sun, Sep 23, 2012 8:49:32am |
re: #293 Kronocide
Isn't there some kind of 'fuck the terrorist minority' general uprising going on in Libya, and hasn't the Libyan army told militants to get the fuck out? I'd think that was a good thing.
Leave it to Fox to find outrage in progress.
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A Mom Anon Sun, Sep 23, 2012 8:50:02am |
re: #293 Kronocide
But Ann Coulter is on This Week on ABC this morning....does this mean a demon gets it's wings? And fangs?
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darthstar Sun, Sep 23, 2012 8:50:29am |
Movies are so unrealistic. This guy's using his computer to access an alien ship & not once has it asked if he wants to upgrade his Adobe.— Michael Linhart (@mlinhart) September 23, 2012
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Kronocide Sun, Sep 23, 2012 8:52:21am |
Every time the rightwing media whines about the 'the media' an angel gets a cheap Patriot Wings lapel made in China— Ryan King (@BigPapa1849) September 23, 2012
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Sep 23, 2012 8:53:14am |
re: #295 A Mom Anon
But Ann Coulter is on This Week on ABC this morning....does this mean a demon gets it's wings? And fangs?
No, but only because Ann Coulter is already a demon.
/kidding, but only barely
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Killgore Trout Sun, Sep 23, 2012 8:53:21am |
Iran could launch pre-emptive attack on Israel, says Irani senior commander
"Iran will not start any war but it could launch a pre-emptive attack if it was sure that the enemies are putting the final touches to attack it," Al-Alam said, paraphrasing the military commander.
Hajizadeh said any attack on Iranian soil could trigger "World War Three".
"We can not imagine the Zionist regime starting a war without America's support. Therefore, in case of a war, we will get into a war with both of them and we will certainly get into a conflict with American bases," he said
"In that case, unpredictable and unmanageable things would happen and it could turn into a World War Three."
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Sep 23, 2012 8:54:10am |
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A Mom Anon Sun, Sep 23, 2012 8:56:18am |
re: #298 Dark_Falcon
Damn,I thought that was her department. I get my demon hierarchy confused sometimes,heh.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Sep 23, 2012 8:56:43am |
re: #299 Killgore Trout
Iran could launch pre-emptive attack on Israel, says Irani senior commander
If Iran tries a preemptive strike with ballistic missiles, temperatures in Teheran will reach ten thousand degrees Farenheit in less than a second.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Sun, Sep 23, 2012 9:05:01am |
re: #264 Dire Straits
Personally I think that government should do away with lotteries. I see too many people who can barely make ends meet, blowing way too much money on lottery tickets.
Lotteries are gambling for the mathematically challenged. And also preying on the marginal utility value of $1 for most folks.
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darthstar Sun, Sep 23, 2012 9:05:27am |
heh...Conan does a Romney attack ad better than Romney.
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darthstar Sun, Sep 23, 2012 9:07:35am |
re: #303 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste
Lotteries are gambling for the mathematically challenged. And also preying on the marginal utility value of $1 for most folks.
I play the lotto every week...every 10 weeks (or so...I'm usually four or five weeks late in renewing) I play the same set of numbers for the next 20 draws. Last cycle, my $20 bet paid me a 5% dividend! Yes, I won one buck.
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Lidane Sun, Sep 23, 2012 9:08:19am |
re: #304 darthstar
heh...Conan does a Romney attack ad better than Romney.
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I suspect that Conan could run a better campaign for POTUS than Romney has.
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darthstar Sun, Sep 23, 2012 9:11:55am |
This SNL sketch on undecided voters last night was brilliant, really spot on hulu.com/watch/404175?p...— Ben Jacobs (@benhjacobs) September 23, 2012
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darthstar Sun, Sep 23, 2012 9:12:44am |
re: #306 Lidane
I suspect that Conan could run a better campaign for POTUS than Romney has.
I think Michele Bachmann would have been a more formidable opponent for President Obama.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Sep 23, 2012 9:15:30am |
re: #307 Sionainn
Sad news.
That happens. Panda's are born smaller than humans, smaller than true bears. for that matter.
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A Mom Anon Sun, Sep 23, 2012 9:17:10am |
re: #303 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste
Don't lotteries help fund public schools? I think they do in GA,I'm not sure about the rest of the country. That's kind of sick really.
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darthstar Sun, Sep 23, 2012 9:18:41am |
Part of what makes a person a good candidate for President is their attention to detail...
[Link: www.usnews.com...]
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darthstar Sun, Sep 23, 2012 9:19:03am |
re: #312 darthstar
Part of what makes a person a good candidate for President is their attention to detail...
[Link: www.usnews.com...]
Yes, he really did put the USA down as a foreign country.
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A Mom Anon Sun, Sep 23, 2012 9:22:29am |
re: #313 darthstar
Well you know how it is,your money lives in the Caymans,Switzerland,China,and when you go to visit it,well,it can be confusing. So many tax shelters,so little time and all that(insert cheesy country club laugh here)....
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Sep 23, 2012 9:22:38am |
re: #313 darthstar
Yes, he really did put the USA down as a foreign country.
I seriously doubt he typed that. Someone else handles Mitt Romney's taxes and he just reviews them. It's an easy oversight, and harmless.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Sun, Sep 23, 2012 9:24:34am |
re: #311 A Mom Anon
Don't lotteries help fund public schools? I think they do in GA,I'm not sure about the rest of the country. That's kind of sick really.
Supposedly lottery funds go to lots of "special" things. I think the PA one goes into senior citizen care funds. But given that the state funding is essentially a big pool the lottery part simply allows part of the pool to be used elsewhere.
Then you get things like Powerball. That's run by an umbrella organization (MUSL) for a large group of state lotteries. I presume profits from that go right into the various member state's coffers.
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Kronocide Sun, Sep 23, 2012 9:27:11am |
re: #315 Dark_Falcon
I seriously doubt he typed that. Someone else handles Mitt Romney's taxes and he just reviews them. It's an easy oversight, and harmless.
So is the mocking of him for it.
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A Mom Anon Sun, Sep 23, 2012 9:35:25am |
re: #316 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste
Yep,some quick research shows that in GA it funds something called the HOPE scholarship,voluntary Pre K programs,some sort of advanced technology training for teachers and initial cash outlay for school buildings and other facilities related to education. Very specific things. But if you watch their commercials on TV,they make it sound like the lottery is a primary source of funds for schools. They play up the HOPE scholarship and pre K aspect of it, but they ought to be more honest with the numbers.
As an aside,something annoys me about early education. It's clearly important,but it seems like by the time kids hit middle school,there isn't a whole lot else except advanced placement(AP) classes for the really bright kids. Which again is also a good thing,but honestly,middle school seems like it's not much more than a warehouse/holding space for kids til they get to high school. And if things keep going the way they have been,high school is going to be a bigger joke than it is now. Early intervention and education is vital,but if the upper grades aren't paid attention to(beyond testing)what are we putting so much into early education programs for? It just seems like older kids aren't part of the conversation when we talk about improving the system,beyond test scores and graduation rates.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Sun, Sep 23, 2012 9:36:19am |
re: #317 Kronocide
So is the mocking of him for it.
Ah, the stripey bag has come around on the luggage conveyor again.
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Varek Raith Sun, Sep 23, 2012 9:38:36am |
re: #319 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste
Ah, the stripey bag has come around on the luggage conveyor again.
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Fuck you stripey bag!
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Sep 23, 2012 9:41:18am |
Once again, it is morning.
I hear there are some Big Games being played today.
How are you doing?
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Killgore Trout Sun, Sep 23, 2012 9:42:32am |
re: #302 Dark_Falcon
If Iran tries a preemptive strike with ballistic missiles, temperatures in Teheran will reach ten thousand degrees Farenheit in less than a second.
I don't think they have ballistic missiles yet. I think there are plans to send a monkey into space soon in the name of "research" but their missiles tech still sucks.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Sep 23, 2012 9:44:32am |
re: #318 A Mom Anon
Yep,some quick research shows that in GA it funds something called the HOPE scholarship,voluntary Pre K programs,some sort of advanced technology training for teachers and initial cash outlay for school buildings and other facilities related to education. Very specific things. But if you watch their commercials on TV,they make it sound like the lottery is a primary source of funds for schools. They play up the HOPE scholarship and pre K aspect of it, but they ought to be more honest with the numbers.
As an aside,something annoys me about early education. It's clearly important,but it seems like by the time kids hit middle school,there isn't a whole lot else except advanced placement(AP) classes for the really bright kids. Which again is also a good thing,but honestly,middle school seems like it's not much more than a warehouse/holding space for kids til they get to high school. And if things keep going the way they have been,high school is going to be a bigger joke than it is now. Early intervention and education is vital,but if the upper grades aren't paid attention to(beyond testing)what are we putting so much into early education programs for? It just seems like older kids aren't part of the conversation when we talk about improving the system,beyond test scores and graduation rates.
That age is a bitch to grow thru and sometimes, I think, as bad for the adults that have to deal with them. I suprised anything academic gets learned. I'm not so there is much more teachers can do but warehouse them and try to get some learning done that doesn't involve the opposite sex or popular culture. LOL
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Sun, Sep 23, 2012 9:45:19am |
re: #318 A Mom Anon
Yep,some quick research shows that in GA it funds something called the HOPE scholarship,voluntary Pre K programs,some sort of advanced technology training for teachers and initial cash outlay for school buildings and other facilities related to education. Very specific things. But if you watch their commercials on TV,they make it sound like the lottery is a primary source of funds for schools. They play up the HOPE scholarship and pre K aspect of it, but they ought to be more honest with the numbers.
As an aside,something annoys me about early education. It's clearly important,but it seems like by the time kids hit middle school,there isn't a whole lot else except advanced placement(AP) classes for the really bright kids. Which again is also a good thing,but honestly,middle school seems like it's not much more than a warehouse/holding space for kids til they get to high school. And if things keep going the way they have been,high school is going to be a bigger joke than it is now. Early intervention and education is vital,but if the upper grades aren't paid attention to(beyond testing)what are we putting so much into early education programs for? It just seems like older kids aren't part of the conversation when we talk about improving the system,beyond test scores and graduation rates.
I don't know what various school districts do along these lines. The one I attended in northern NYS in the late 70s had an "accelerated" program. Based on recommendations from 6th grade teachers and the elementary school principles they would essentially skip students past 7th grade english, science and math classes.
So you would have a group of students essentially taking math and science a year earlier than normal. This left space in their senior high school year for AP classes and such. They would also take the NYS Regents exams a year earlier in those various subjects as well.
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Varek Raith Sun, Sep 23, 2012 9:46:39am |
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Sep 23, 2012 9:47:18am |
re: #322 Killgore Trout
I don't think they have ballistic missiles yet. I think there are plans to send a monkey into space soon in the name of "research" but their missiles tech still sucks.
No, they already have intermediate-range ballistic missiles and hardened silos to put them in. At best they're as good as the 1980's vintage Soviet SS-20 'Saber', though of course Iran doesn't have nukes to put on them yet.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Sep 23, 2012 9:48:03am |
re: #325 Varek Raith
As cute as they are I swear they have outlived their evolutionary purpose. As I understand it, they eat only one or two things and have a very difficult time breeding. Maybe there is a reason . . . .
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Sun, Sep 23, 2012 9:48:33am |
re: #320 Varek Raith
Fuck you stripey bag!
If the ventilation at work gets too loud my one co-worker asks "Hey Crayola! Can you turn that down?"
We crack up and everyone else thinks we're nuts. Then again, we're IT so maybe they're right.
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Lidane Sun, Sep 23, 2012 9:49:42am |
Heh:
One more: "I asked my wife, 'Why do people hate me immediately?' She said, 'It saves time.'" -- RomneyDangerfield— Patton Oswalt (@pattonoswalt) September 23, 2012
@pattonoswalt "I tell ya, politics, it's just one mistake after another. Take my campaign manager. No really, take him." -Romney Dangerfield— Dev Richards (@art_nerveux) September 23, 2012
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Sun, Sep 23, 2012 9:51:06am |
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Sun, Sep 23, 2012 9:54:29am |
re: #327 ggt
As cute as they are I swear they have outlived their evolutionary purpose. As I understand it, they eat only one or two things and have a very difficult time breeding. Maybe there is a reason . . . .
Once the last one dies the mutant bamboo emerges and overruns the Earth.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Sep 23, 2012 9:55:54am |
re: #326 Dark_Falcon
No, they already have intermediate-range ballistic missiles and hardened silos to put them in. At best they're as good as the 1980's vintage Soviet SS-20 'Saber', though of course Iran doesn't have nukes to put on them yet.
Any clue what their targeting capabilities are? How far away can they reliably hit anything?
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Sun, Sep 23, 2012 9:58:57am |
Nice little Steve Sabol tribute right before the football games start.
I think his impact on the popularity of professional football is under appreciated given how many NFL iconic images come from his films.
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Lidane Sun, Sep 23, 2012 9:59:41am |
Two more:
"I love my kids.Aside from being able to fire them, they're all I ever wanted." -- #RomneyDangerfield— Dan Cronin (@djcronin) September 23, 2012
@pattonoswalt I can tell the 47% hate me. They sent me bath toys for my birthday: a toaster and a radio. #RomneyDangerfield— Vickroy (@TBVickroy) September 23, 2012
This tag is awesome. Hahaha.
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prairiefire Sun, Sep 23, 2012 10:01:35am |
re: #136 prairiefire
Hey! Those are alotta mine! I think I just used your great code, Charles.
Oh, because its my image library. Cool.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Sep 23, 2012 10:02:00am |
re: #332 Killgore Trout
Any clue what their targeting capabilities are? How far away can they reliably hit anything?
Not really. We don't really know how good their guidance systems are, and won't unless they actually fire one at a target far from Iran.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Sep 23, 2012 10:02:51am |
re: #332 Killgore Trout
Any clue what their targeting capabilities are? How far away can they reliably hit anything?
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b_sharp Sun, Sep 23, 2012 10:07:42am |
re: #327 ggt
As cute as they are I swear they have outlived their evolutionary purpose. As I understand it, they eat only one or two things and have a very difficult time breeding. Maybe there is a reason . . . .
There is only one purpose to evolution, and that is to pass genes on to successful offspring. A lot of genes hitch rides along with those genes conferring advantage so neutral traits that later become deleterious are common.
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William Barnett-Lewis Sun, Sep 23, 2012 10:12:52am |
Well, I'd forgotten the Packers were going to have chicken dinner on Monday night so I guess I need to be a Rams & 49ers fan today ;)
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Daniel Ballard Sun, Sep 23, 2012 10:22:56am |
re: #337 Dark_Falcon
And we now know that"enemy if Israel" Obama has granted Israel the right to purchase the bunker buster bombs that you refer to in the Page. Lots of them.
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Targetpractice Sun, Sep 23, 2012 10:26:27am |
Government hates fossil fuels! We'd be getting nowhere if government had its way!!
Decades of federal dollars helped fuel gas boom
But those who helped pioneer the technique known as hydraulic fracturing, or fracking, recall a different path. Over three decades, from the shale fields of Texas and Wyoming to the Marcellus in the Northeast, the federal government contributed more than $100 million in research to develop fracking, and billions more in tax breaks.
Now, those industry pioneers say their own effort shows that the government should back research into future sources of energy — for decades, if need be — to promote breakthroughs. For all its success now, many people in the oil and gas industry itself once thought shale gas was a waste of time.
...nevermind.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Sep 23, 2012 10:27:52am |
re: #341 Daniel Ballard
And we now know that"enemy if Israel" Obama has granted Israel the right to purchase the bunker buster bombs that you refer to in the Page. Lots of them.
This thing is going to come to a head eventually. It'll be interesting to see how it plays out.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Sep 23, 2012 10:29:51am |
'Spy rock' explodes near Iranian nuclear enrichment plant
A MONITORING device disguised as a rock has been found near an underground Iranian nuclear enrichment plant, The Sunday Times reports.
Western intelligence sources told the newspaper the device exploded when it was disturbed by Iranian troops.
Revolutionary Guards were on a patrol checking data and telephone links at Fordo, near Qom in northern Iran.
They tried to move the rock, setting off its self-destruct mechanism.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Sep 23, 2012 10:31:09am |
re: #344 Killgore Trout
An interesting update on the powerline disruption last week
Last week, the country's vice president Fereydoun Abbasi said power lines had been blown up near the facility on August 17 in an attempt to sabotage Iran's "peaceful" nuclear program.
But experts examined the rubble and found a device designed to intercept data from computers at the plant.
The accident signals the loss of an important source of intelligence for the West on Iran's progress towards making a nuclear bomb.
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jaunte Sun, Sep 23, 2012 10:32:38am |
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b_sharp Sun, Sep 23, 2012 10:33:57am |
re: #346 jaunte
The
hillsrocks have eyes![Link: www.news.com.au...]
What is the world coming to that we can't even trust rocks?
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Killgore Trout Sun, Sep 23, 2012 10:34:16am |
re: #346 jaunte
re: #344 Killgore Trout
The
hillsrocks have eyes![Link: www.news.com.au...]
There's some really interesting spycraft going on these days. It'll be interesting to read the book in 20 years wen some of it gets declassified.
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jaunte Sun, Sep 23, 2012 10:35:45am |
re: #348 Killgore Trout
I wonder if anyone has a functioning "wasp-cam" yet.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Sep 23, 2012 10:35:48am |
I'll never look at a rock the same way again!
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b_sharp Sun, Sep 23, 2012 10:36:04am |
re: #348 Killgore Trout
There's some really interesting spycraft going on these days. It'll be interesting to read the book in 20 years wen some of it gets declassified.
The view from the spy urinals must be spectacular.
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Mich-again Sun, Sep 23, 2012 10:39:42am |
re: #287 Killgore Trout
Well I remember being surprised a few years back at a picture of Ahmadinejad at the Natanz site standing in front of a gas regulator that looked just like the ones from a company I have done business with here. link I sent them an e-mail about it and got this response..
Your email has been received and researched by our organization. We, like you, take such matters very seriously. Please be advised that the instrument in the photo is NOT that of Endress+Hauser or Varec, but rather a pressure device from the Russian company Metran(www.metran.ru) which is affiliated with another instrumentation company.
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jaunte Sun, Sep 23, 2012 10:40:28am |
iPad spycraft in Australia:
A US airline passenger who lost his iPad on board used a special app to find it, in the home of one of the flight attendants, police said.
[Link: www.news.com.au...]
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Big Joe Sun, Sep 23, 2012 10:43:46am |
re: #266 Shropshire_Slasher
Who left all these red solo cups all over the damn place. Why does everyone insist on leaving a swallow and a half in the damn cans!?
Just be careful. I picked up what I thought was my beer and it had cigarette butts in it.
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Lidane Sun, Sep 23, 2012 10:45:43am |
Man gives away racist stepfather's inheritance to people doing good deeds huff.to/S81sZv— Huffington Post (@HuffingtonPost) September 23, 2012
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Killgore Trout Sun, Sep 23, 2012 10:49:11am |
re: #349 jaunte
I wonder if anyone has a functioning "wasp-cam" yet.
I know they're working on it. DARPA has probably already done it.
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jaunte Sun, Sep 23, 2012 10:50:48am |
re: #356 Killgore Trout
It's probably hard to make them quiet enough to go unnoticed.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Sep 23, 2012 10:51:19am |
re: #352 Mich-again
Well I remember being surprised a few years back at a picture of Ahmadinejad at the Natanz site standing in front of a gas regulator that looked just like the ones from a company I have done business with here. link I sent them an e-mail about it and got this response..
Looks like a meat grinder.
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darthstar Sun, Sep 23, 2012 10:51:25am |
So it looks like the couch warriors are all hot and bothered again.
Well, at least the Vikings are driving the ball against the 49ers right now.
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Shiplord Kirel Sun, Sep 23, 2012 10:54:38am |
re: #355 Lidane
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The old bastard who left the money, Leonard Michael Young, belonged to this nasty gang:
League of Empire Loyalists
The League of Empire Loyalists (LEL) was a British pressure group (also called a 'ginger group' in Britain and the British Commonwealth), established in 1954, which campaigned against the dissolution of the British Empire. The League was a small group of current or former members of the Conservative Party led by Arthur K. Chesterton, a former leading figure in the British Union of Fascists, who had served under Oswald Mosley. The League found support from a number of Conservative Party members, although they were disliked very much by the leadership......
They were well known for various stunts at Conservative Party meetings and conferences (acting as a constant irritant to the party). These stunts included hiding underneath the speaker platform overnight to emerge during the conference in order to put across their points. At the 1958 party Conference in Blackpool, George Irvine Finlay (who became Director of Organisation for the Scottish Conservatives) was involved in forcibly removing members of the League of Empire Loyalists. The widespread media coverage resulted in his being sued for assault; not only was he acquitted but costs were awarded against the prosecution. That same year the League secured further publicity when members launched an "invasion" of the Lambeth Conference of the Anglican Communion.Another incident saw LEL member Austen Brooks manage to gain access to a lunch for U Thant by impersonating Makarios III, both men being heavily bearded, before revealing his charade and shouting LEL slogans. Anthony Eden was also a target and when he shook hands with Nikita Khrushchev and Nikolai Bulganin as they arrived at Victoria Station in 1956 LEL members were on hand to yell at Eden that he had just shaken hands with murderers. In November 1961 Wing-Commander Leonard Young gained further notoriety for the LEL when he threw a bag of sheep guts at President of Kenya Jomo Kenyata. The Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament was also a target with speakers at its inaugural rally in Central Hall, Westminster, on 17 February 1958 being heckled, in particular Michael Foot. After these antics the Tory leadership made it clear to their members that the LEL was to be discouraged, leading to a severe downturn in membership.
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blueraven Sun, Sep 23, 2012 10:55:41am |
Something is wrong with Gallup
Over the last three days -
Obama went from 1 point underwater on job approval, to even the next day, to up by 8 today. (51-43)
Their polls have been so erratic, it is hard to take them seriously.
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darthstar Sun, Sep 23, 2012 10:56:30am |
Okay, Fox has the stupidest broadcasters...two first downs in a row they've criticized the play. Yes, you like the 49ers...we get it.
Okay, the QB just ran it up the middle for 21 yards to score a touchdown...please, tell me how this was good for the 49ers.
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darthstar Sun, Sep 23, 2012 10:58:44am |
re: #362 blueraven
Something is wrong with Gallup
Over the last three days -
Obama went from 1 point underwater on job approval, to even the next day, to up by 8 today. (51-43)Their polls have been so erratic, it is hard to take them seriously.
You can only shave so many points before someone starts to notice. Gallup is finding themselves in a bit of a Rasmussen these days.
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b_sharp Sun, Sep 23, 2012 11:00:44am |
re: #362 blueraven
Something is wrong with Gallup
Over the last three days -
Obama went from 1 point underwater on job approval, to even the next day, to up by 8 today. (51-43)Their polls have been so erratic, it is hard to take them seriously.
Look at the trend, not individual polls.
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darthstar Sun, Sep 23, 2012 11:01:29am |
Ryan/Romney ticket promises to fuck over women on day 1.
Paul Ryan says if elected, he and Mitt Romney will do away with covered contraception on "day one"m.apnews.com/ap/db_268748/c...— Jessica Valenti (@JessicaValenti) September 23, 2012
Republican vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan on Saturday derided President Obama's space program and called his administration's requirement that hospitals and universities, including Catholic ones, be required to offer contraception an "assault on religious liberty."
Ryan promised at a town hall meeting in Orlando that GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney would reverse the contraception mandate on "Day 1" if he is elected president. The mandate requiring all insurance plans to include access to contraception was part of Obama's health care overhaul.
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Lidane Sun, Sep 23, 2012 11:04:26am |
re: #366 darthstar
Ryan/Romney ticket promises to fuck over women on day 1.
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Not surprising. They'd also repeal VAWA if they could.
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b_sharp Sun, Sep 23, 2012 11:04:31am |
Where the bad, really hot place, is everybody?
Does the number of new threads have an influence on how many lizards comment?
If there was a new thread every 3 or 4 hours, would there be more comments?
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Targetpractice Sun, Sep 23, 2012 11:06:34am |
re: #365 reflections of a redneck
Look at the trend, not individual polls.
Indeed, Nate Silver's been saying the same thing for awhile. Those who focus on the daily numbers are missing the overall trend, which shows Obama holding his own when he's not enjoying a lead. If present trends continue, Romney's gonna have to hope for outside intervention in order to have a chance.
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jaunte Sun, Sep 23, 2012 11:07:49am |
re: #368 reflections of a redneck
Football might have something to do with it. Nine games started at 1:00 EST.
[Link: www.nfl.com...]
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blueraven Sun, Sep 23, 2012 11:07:52am |
re: #365 reflections of a redneck
Look at the trend, not individual polls.
Of course I look at the trend. I follow RCP and 538 and other pollsters.
What I am saying is there is no trend with Gallup.
Rasmussen, as we all know has an R lean.
But even their polls make more sense as far as some consistency with itself, if not the overall trend.
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Targetpractice Sun, Sep 23, 2012 11:08:32am |
re: #367 Lidane
Not surprising. They'd also repeal VAWA if they could.
They'll do effectively that this year, as it seems like the GOP is absolutely refusing to agree to a reauthorization unless the Dems strip all the new protections out. There's something uniquely amusing and yet frustrating about GOP demands now for a "clean bill" in light of their shit last year over the debt limit.
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b_sharp Sun, Sep 23, 2012 11:14:03am |
re: #370 jaunte
Football might have something to do with it. Nine games started at 1:00 EST.
[Link: www.nfl.com...]
Nine games? Don't you 'Mericans stagger your football like we sensible Canucks do?
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darthstar Sun, Sep 23, 2012 11:15:04am |
103,200 registered Democrats have asked for absentee ballots in Iowa. Only 17,283 Republicans have done the same. elections.gmu.edu/early_vote_201...— Taniel (@Taniel) September 23, 2012
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Targetpractice Sun, Sep 23, 2012 11:15:33am |
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darthstar Sun, Sep 23, 2012 11:15:53am |
And the Vikings blocked the field goal attempt!
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jaunte Sun, Sep 23, 2012 11:16:35am |
re: #373 reflections of a redneck
"There is no sensible in football!"
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dragonfire1981 Sun, Sep 23, 2012 11:17:30am |
re: #377 jaunte
"There is no sensible in football!"
Not with these replacement refs, that's for sure.
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Lidane Sun, Sep 23, 2012 11:54:35am |
Conservatives urge Romney to make a change: tpm.ly/RN9kpg— Talking Points Memo (@TPM) September 23, 2012
After a few rough weeks for Mitt Romney and with polls beginning to swing in President Obama’s favor, conservatives on the Sunday talk shows offered their ideas on how the candidate can turn his campaign around. The consensus: Romney needs to make the election more about his own agenda and less about President Obama.
Gee. You mean he should start telling people what he actually stands for and what he would do in office once elected?
It's a bit late for that, no? That's what the RNC was supposed to be for.
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Targetpractice Sun, Sep 23, 2012 11:55:54am |
re: #380 Lidane
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Gee. You mean he should start telling people what he actually stands for and what he would do in office once elected?
It's a bit late for that, no? That's what the RNC was supposed to be for.
That tends to happen when you run against somebody and not for something, namely that the person you're running against may turn out to be a nice guy who folks are willing to listen to, and realize the demon you're trying to paint him as doesn't exist.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Sun, Sep 23, 2012 12:02:19pm |
re: #354 Big Joe
Just be careful. I picked up what I thought was my beer and it had cigarette butts in it.
Or Big Beer is spying on you and the cup will explode when you disturb it. Or worse, release a payload of mutant fruit flies that can tunnel into unopened cans and bottles.
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Targetpractice Sun, Sep 23, 2012 12:09:25pm |
Seriously, I can't imagine what it's gonna be like next year, when the "tell-all" books start trickling out about the Romney campaign. I think we're gonna end up finding out that he was, behind the scenes, every bit the drama queen that Palin was while having none of the common sense that allowed McCain to at least seem competitive. Wouldn't be surprised to learn that the man has been quite the little dictator behind the scenes, overruling otherwise smart moves by his own campaign because he thought that his years as a "businessman" meant he knew what it takes to win a presidential campaign.
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Mich-again Sun, Sep 23, 2012 12:14:56pm |
re: #383 Targetpractice
Seriously, I can't imagine what it's gonna be like next year, when the "tell-all" books start trickling out about the Romney campaign. I think we're gonna end up finding out that he was, behind the scenes, every bit the drama queen that Palin was while having none of the common sense that allowed McCain to at least seem competitive. Wouldn't be surprised to learn that the man has been quite the little dictator behind the scenes, overruling otherwise smart moves by his own campaign because he thought that his years as a "businessman" meant he knew what it takes to win a presidential campaign.
Mitt's experience at Bain amounted to always negotiating from a position of strength. Maybe that isn't the best background for getting into politics.
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sattv4u2 Sun, Sep 23, 2012 12:16:12pm |
re: #376 darthstar
And the Vikings blocked the field goal attempt!
Hard to keep focus when a pair of these are flying by your testicles
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Killgore Trout Sun, Sep 23, 2012 12:26:42pm |
"Perhaps if the politicians take a better position in the West, vis-a-vis offensive words or thoughts or pictures towards what we hold holy, I think conditions will improve."
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