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1 engineer cat  Sun, Sep 23, 2012 12:33:44pm

mitt is not dead

he's just pining for the fjords

2 darthstar  Sun, Sep 23, 2012 12:38:55pm
3 jaunte  Sun, Sep 23, 2012 12:39:28pm

Corn on Face the Nation: Was the 47 Percent Video a Game Changer?

In which Peggy Noonan dismisses all talk of GOP congressional obstruction with deep analysis: "Oh, boo, hoo," then goes on to reminisce about how great FDR was at both the inside and outside game of Presidenting.

4 Targetpractice  Sun, Sep 23, 2012 12:43:19pm

re: #3 jaunte

Corn on Face the Nation: Was the 47 Percent Video a Game Changer?

In which Peggy Noonan dismisses all talk of GOP congressional obstruction with deep analysis: "Oh, boo, hoo," then goes on to reminisce about how great FDR was at both the inside and outside game of Presidenting.

FDR didn't have to worry that a filibuster was the end of any bill. So long as support for the bill could outlast the lawmakers on Capital Hill, it had a chance at passing. Now, with the two-track system, one can kill a bill and yet the business of the Senate rolling along. You no longer need to stand up there and speechify for hours, you just need to convince 40 other Senators to agree with you.

5 Dancing along the light of day  Sun, Sep 23, 2012 12:46:23pm

I'm always hopin' for an open! Happy Sunday, all.

6 dragonath  Sun, Sep 23, 2012 12:50:36pm

Save the Canadian National Archives

Why do Conservatives hate heritage?

7 Randall Gross  Sun, Sep 23, 2012 12:51:34pm

Since this last week & rest of the month are Fall premier weeks - what's everyone putting on their Tivos? So far in our household we have votes for all of the below & some are already being recorded as of last week: (note- my times are central)

Sunday
The Amazing Race 7:00 PM CBS
The Goodwife 8:00 PM CBS
The Walking Dead 8:00 PM AMC
The Mentalist 9:00 PM CBS 9/30
Game of Thrones


Monday
Bones 7:00 PM Fox
Revolution 9:00 PM NBC


Tuesday
NCIS 7:00 PM CBS
NCIS LA 8:00 PM CBS
Covert affairs 8:00 PM USA 10/16
The New Normal 8:30 PM NBC 9/11


Wednesday
Arrow 7:00 PM CW
Criminal Minds 8:00 PM CBS
CSI 9:00 PM CBS


Thursday
The Last Resort 7:00 PM ABC
Grey's Anatomy 8:00 PM ABC
Person of interest 8:00 PM CBS
Elementary 9:00 PM CBS
Scandal 9:00 PM ABC


Friday
CSI NY 7:00 PM CBS
Fringe 8:00 PM Fox
Nikita 8:00 PM CW
Grimm 8:00 PM NBC

8 Randall Gross  Sun, Sep 23, 2012 12:53:11pm

re: #4 Targetpractice

FDR didn't have to worry that a filibuster was the end of any bill. So long as support for the bill could outlast the lawmakers on Capital Hill, it had a chance at passing. Now, with the two-track system, one can kill a bill and yet the business of the Senate rolling along. You no longer need to stand up there and speechify for hours, you just need to convince 40 other Senators to agree with you.

They really do need to fix that, if you filibuster then you really should have to filibuster.

9 b_sharp  Sun, Sep 23, 2012 12:54:06pm

re: #6 dragonath

Save the Canadian National Archives

Why do Conservatives hate heritage?

They want the poor to be illiterate. It keeps the cycle going.

10 Targetpractice  Sun, Sep 23, 2012 12:55:00pm

re: #8 Randall Gross

They really do need to fix that, if you filibuster then you really should have to filibuster.

I think most of the experts and pundits expect that to be the first item of whichever party succeeds in winning the Senate majority. Reid's already made it clear that, if the Dems hold the Senate, filibuster reform will be the first thing out of the gate. This system is broken, it can't go on, and it's only going to get worse if something is not done.

11 Lidane  Sun, Sep 23, 2012 12:55:00pm

re: #8 Randall Gross

They really do need to fix that, if you filibuster then you really should have to filibuster.

Seriously. If you're going to threaten a filibuster, then you should be forced to stand there for hours and days, making speeches, reading from the phone book, etc. Just getting people to sign off on a filibuster is stupid.

12 Mich-again  Sun, Sep 23, 2012 1:04:31pm

Congratulations to my Lions for making the Tennessee Titans look like the Harlem Globetrotters of football today. /

13 Mich-again  Sun, Sep 23, 2012 1:06:17pm

re: #10 Targetpractice

I think most of the experts and pundits expect that to be the first item of whichever party succeeds in winning the Senate majority. Reid's already made it clear that, if the Dems hold the Senate, filibuster reform will be the first thing out of the gate. This system is broken, it can't go on, and it's only going to get worse if something is not done.

Well the GOP is always harping on what the original framers of the Constitution intended so they should be all for that idea.

14 Targetpractice  Sun, Sep 23, 2012 1:08:28pm

re: #13 Mich-again

Well the GOP is always harping on what the original framers of the Constitution intended so they should be all for that idea.

Oh, you can be sure that they'll be all for "What The Founders Intended!" if they're the ones who are leading the reform. But if the Dems are leading it, we will hear constant whines about how it's a "power grab" intended to strip "We, The People" of any say in Congress.

15 Dancing along the light of day  Sun, Sep 23, 2012 1:09:29pm

OK, this is just hysterical!
[Link: www.blissworld.com...]

16 darthstar  Sun, Sep 23, 2012 1:12:02pm

Fucking Fox sportscasters suck to high heaven...Vikings have dominated this game, and all they can say is "They're playing the 49er game today." No, they're playing the Viking game, and the 49ers are losing because the Vikings are out playing them. They're not playing San Francisco's game. If they were playing San Francisco's game they'd be losing...though it wouldn't hurt if the Vikings would stop fumbling the ball in the last two minutes. Twice in three plays? Really?

17 Mich-again  Sun, Sep 23, 2012 1:13:49pm

re: #14 Targetpractice

Oh, you can be sure that they'll be all for "What The Founders Intended!" if they're the ones who are leading the reform. But if the Dems are leading it, we will hear constant whines about how it's a "power grab" intended to strip "We, The People" of any say in Congress.

The Fillibuster was not allowed in the original Senate rules. That was the result of a Senate rule change in the early 1800's. It wasn't in the Constitution.

18 Kragar  Sun, Sep 23, 2012 1:16:58pm

Mitt Romney defends 'very effective campaign' amid Republican complaints

In an interview to be broadcast on Sunday at the end of his worst week so far, Romney rejected criticism of his handling of the campaign. His team has been repeatedly forced on the defensive, unable to gets its message out. Last week was dominated by reports of internal strife and a devastating secret video of a Romney speech dismissive of 47% of Americans as freeloaders.

Asked how he planned to turn things around, Romney told CBS 60 Minutes: "Well, it doesn't need a turnaround." He added: "I've got a very effective campaign. It's doing a very good job."

It is surprising that Romney opted for denial in the face of widespread criticism last week, in particular from Republicans.

The influential conservative commentator, Peggy Noonan, in her Wall Street Journal column, called for a change at the top of his team, describing the campaign as "a rolling calamity".

19 Targetpractice  Sun, Sep 23, 2012 1:17:41pm

re: #17 Mich-again

The Fillibuster was not allowed in the original Senate rules. That was the result of a Senate rule change in the early 1800's. It wasn't in the Constitution.

Indeed, it's usage in a legislative sense came about as a result of the opposition to the Kansas-Nebraska Act in 1854. It really has no basis in even common law and no Constitutional basis whatsoever. If one party or the other chose to do away with it, the Supreme Court would be pretty much bound to rule in favor of its abolition.

20 Mich-again  Sun, Sep 23, 2012 1:18:16pm

re: #18 Kragar

Romney Dangerfield can't get no respect.

21 engineer cat  Sun, Sep 23, 2012 1:19:49pm

Mr. Ryan, for his part, reiterated his charge that Mr. Obama’s health care overhaul would “funnel $716 billion out of Medicare to pay for a new entitlement we didn’t even ask for.” The Republican plan for vouchers, he said, “empowers future seniors to choose the coverage that works best for them from a list of plans that are required to offer at least the same level of care as traditional Medicare.”

ryan continued "mr obama wants you to eat hamburger, which has been shown to contribute to heart attacks, while we offer you the finest farm fresh grade A bullshit, which is rich in nutrients that lead to healthy growth for many life forms. i don't understand why anybody would choose heart attacks over growth - we offer you growth, not death!"

22 Dancing along the light of day  Sun, Sep 23, 2012 1:21:13pm

re: #18 Kragar

He's going to be so shamed when the voting is over!

23 Targetpractice  Sun, Sep 23, 2012 1:22:20pm

re: #18 Kragar

Mitt Romney defends 'very effective campaign' amid Republican complaints

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Yeah, I understand the pundits today basically had the same message to his campaign: Drop the anti-Obama BS and start telling us what you plan to do. Thing is, based on the vagueness of the campaign so far, as well as statements about how people would vote against them if they knew what they were running on, I doubt the Romney campaign really has a choice.

24 engineer cat  Sun, Sep 23, 2012 1:25:01pm

"Well, it doesn't need a turnaround." He added: "I've got a very effective campaign. It's doing a very good job."

"if it wasn't for all the talented people contributing decades of political expertise and working their heart out for me, there wouldn't be a chance in hell that anybody would buy the crap we're peddling"

25 engineer cat  Sun, Sep 23, 2012 1:27:34pm

re: #23 Targetpractice

Yeah, I understand the pundits today basically had the same message to his campaign: Drop the anti-Obama BS and start telling us what you plan to do. Thing is, based on the vagueness of the campaign so far, as well as statements about how people would vote against them if they knew what they were running on, I doubt the Romney campaign really has a choice.

the whole campaign is based on obscuring his real plans. they're smart enough to figure out that if they explained exactly how they mean to push the tax burden down the income scale even more, and to starve ss and medicare, they would be run out of town on a rail

so, expect more vague bullshit dressed up to look like a plan, probably by rewriting exactly what they've been saying all along to use more "action" words

26 Targetpractice  Sun, Sep 23, 2012 1:30:55pm

re: #25 engineer cat

the whole campaign is based on obscuring his real plans. they're smart enough to figure out that if they explained exactly how they mean to push the tax burden down the income scale even more, and to starve ss and medicare, they would be run out of town on a rail

so, expect more vague bullshit dressed up to look like a plan, probably by rewriting exactly what they've been saying all along to use more "action" words

Indeed, along with lots of defense from the wingnuts who months ago wouldn't have crossed the street to piss on him because he was on fire. I expect we'll hear more talk about how the vagueness is actually good, because if he came out and told the "truth," he's scare off voters. That voters need to be told "harsh truths," but only after he's elected.

27 Charles Johnson  Sun, Sep 23, 2012 1:34:29pm

re: #7 Randall Gross

I thought the new season of "The Walking Dead" didn't start until Oct. 14th?

28 b_sharp  Sun, Sep 23, 2012 1:35:21pm

re: #27 Charles Johnson

I thought the new season of "The Walking Dead" didn't start until Oct. 14th?

I just checked. It doesn't start til then.

29 Kragar  Sun, Sep 23, 2012 1:37:47pm

Netfix has also been updating their series, so I'm hoping Walking Dead will be up there soon.

30 Targetpractice  Sun, Sep 23, 2012 1:38:18pm

re: #27 Charles Johnson

I thought the new season of "The Walking Dead" didn't start until Oct. 14th?

I thought was what we were calling the Romney campaign?///

Seriously, Netflix still has not gotten off its ass and put up the second season yet, despite it being just two weeks til season three premieres, and almost a month since the season showed up on DVD. Inconceivable!

31 b_sharp  Sun, Sep 23, 2012 1:39:21pm

re: #29 Kragar

Netfix has also been updating their series, so I'm hoping Walking Dead will be up there soon.

I watched the first season there but they didn't have the second season on the Canuckistan version of Netflix.

32 darthstar  Sun, Sep 23, 2012 1:39:30pm
33 sagehen  Sun, Sep 23, 2012 1:45:40pm

re: #7 Randall Gross

Since this last week & rest of the month are Fall premier weeks - what's everyone putting on their Tivos? So far in our household we have votes for all of the below & some are already being recorded as of last week: (note- my times are central)

Sunday
Once Upon a Time
Revenge

Monday
2 Broke Girls
Alphas
Warehouse 13
Revolution
Hawaii Five-0

Tuesday
New Girl
The Mindy Project
Vegas
Covert affairs
Sons of Anarchy

Wednesday
Key & Peele (comedy central)

Thursday
The Last Resort
Glee
Person of interest
Elementary
Scandal
Burn Notice (returns in mid-November)

Friday
Fringe
Nikita
Grimm
Haven (syfy)

34 Targetpractice  Sun, Sep 23, 2012 1:50:06pm

Watch so little TV these days. Still gotta catch up on Fringe and The Walking Dead.

35 Kragar  Sun, Sep 23, 2012 1:50:37pm

Only show I record is Dr. Who.

36 b_sharp  Sun, Sep 23, 2012 1:51:07pm

re: #34 Targetpractice

Watch so little TV these days. Still gotta catch up on Fringe and The Walking Dead.

I think Fringe has run its course.

37 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Sep 23, 2012 1:51:12pm

re: #32 darthstar

Glad he's chosen to vote for the real conservative... //well, only half as Obama is, really, center-right by sane world standards.

38 b_sharp  Sun, Sep 23, 2012 1:51:26pm

re: #35 Kragar

Only show I record is Dr. Who.

Who?

39 Targetpractice  Sun, Sep 23, 2012 1:53:18pm

re: #36 reflections of a redneck

I think Fringe has run its course.

It's apparently got one more season left in it, which I think is probably for the best. It started out good, but now it's running into the problem that all series have when they get into story arcs, namely that eventually you either have to end the arc or you risk burning out viewers.

40 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Sep 23, 2012 1:53:39pm

All I need for most TV is three letters: PBS. I will admit that I have watched Blue Bloods. I still like Tom Selleck. :)

41 Feline Fearless Leader  Sun, Sep 23, 2012 1:53:52pm

re: #27 Charles Johnson

I thought the new season of "The Walking Dead" didn't start until Oct. 14th?

When I originally saw that comment I thought it was a reference to the Romney Campaign. But then I realized that zombies are too effective and efficient to use that as a comparison.

42 TedStriker  Sun, Sep 23, 2012 1:54:34pm

re: #12 Mich-again

Congratulations to my Lions for making the Tennessee Titans look like the Harlem Globetrotters of football today. /

Ahem...

My hometown Titans just got lucky in OT against your Lions and pulled it out when the Lions came up a yard short on fourth down.

1-2, baby!

///

43 Feline Fearless Leader  Sun, Sep 23, 2012 1:55:53pm

Damn you Jets! Get this OT crap done with so I can watch the Steelers!

44 Targetpractice  Sun, Sep 23, 2012 1:56:16pm

Think part of the problem with Fringe, a problem with a lot of series like it, is attempting to be X-Files while ignoring what killed that series, namely the abandonment of the episodic formula for the overly-long story arcs.

45 Kragar  Sun, Sep 23, 2012 1:59:23pm

re: #44 Targetpractice

Think part of the problem with Fringe, a problem with a lot of series like it, is attempting to be X-Files while ignoring what killed that series, namely the abandonment of the episodic formula for the overly-long story arcs.

Been watching Alphas, they've done a fairly good job of melding the two.

46 b_sharp  Sun, Sep 23, 2012 2:01:28pm

re: #44 Targetpractice

Think part of the problem with Fringe, a problem with a lot of series like it, is attempting to be X-Files while ignoring what killed that series, namely the abandonment of the episodic formula for the overly-long story arcs.

I don't mind long story arcs as long as they don't go sideways and start looking like a committee on caffeine wrote them.

47 b_sharp  Sun, Sep 23, 2012 2:02:48pm

re: #45 Kragar

Been watching Alphas, they've done a fairly good job of melding the two.

That show has matured somewhat and no longer looks like a kid's show. Same with Grimm.

48 Targetpractice  Sun, Sep 23, 2012 2:03:34pm

re: #45 Kragar

Been watching Alphas, they've done a fairly good job of melding the two.

It's not impossible to meld them, it's finding the right blend. Rely too much on one, show gets stale and you start running out of material. Too much on the other and the show starts to take on the complexity of a Rubix cube and people stop watching because they missed two or three episodes and don't want to play catch-up. X-Files sort of had the right blend for awhile, keeping the story arcs as background to the episodic system, but then the arcs took over and the few episodic jaunts became diamonds in the rough.

49 Stanghazi  Sun, Sep 23, 2012 2:08:46pm

re: #27 Charles Johnson

I thought the new season of "The Walking Dead" didn't start until Oct. 14th?

re: #28 reflections of a redneck

I just checked. It doesn't start til then.

Sent me in a panic, I checked too.

50 A Mom Anon  Sun, Sep 23, 2012 2:13:46pm

I'm not in charge of the DVR,that's husband territory. But I am liking the series on History called How the States Got Their Shapes. It's interesting,season 2 just started last night.

We're watching,in no particular order:(I have no clue when any of these are actually on,since we never watch them when they're really on)
Sons of Anarchy
Bones
Touch
Alphas
No Reservations

51 Charles Johnson  Sun, Sep 23, 2012 2:17:06pm

By the way, I'm completely fed up with the anti-Muslim Pages some people think they can get away with posting here, and a couple of users' accounts are now hanging by a thread.

52 Romantic Heretic  Sun, Sep 23, 2012 3:00:44pm

re: #6 dragonath

Save the Canadian National Archives

Why do Conservatives hate heritage?

Because a country that has no past has no future, and the people masquerading as conservatives want both destroyed so that those things can be remade in their image.

I loathe the psychopathic fuckwad that currently runs my country.

53 Randall Gross  Sun, Sep 23, 2012 3:11:55pm

re: #27 Charles Johnson

I thought the new season of "The Walking Dead" didn't start until Oct. 14th?

There are must sees premiering next month or Nov. that I have on the list as placeholders.( Game of Thrones is another.) I don't want to have a tivo conflict later.

54 Randall Gross  Sun, Sep 23, 2012 3:14:34pm

Also noteworthy: There are split season shows like Covert Affairs, Rizzoli & Isles, and Leverage that can jack you up too (they start up again in Nov.,) but they aren't on the list yet.

55 A Mom Anon  Sun, Sep 23, 2012 3:32:01pm

re: #54 Randall Gross

I love all of those,and Suits too,I think that comes back in January. I leave the husband in charge of the DVR,he records alot of crap I'll never watch,but we do like most of the same series.

56 abolitionist  Sun, Sep 23, 2012 3:45:28pm

Exclusive: North Korea plans agriculture reforms
By Benjamin Kang Lim | Reuters

BEIJING (Reuters) - North Korea plans to allow farmers to keep more of their produce in an attempt to boost agricultural output, a source with close ties to Pyongyang and Beijing said, in a move that could boost supplies, help cap rising food prices and ease malnutrition.

The trees and grass are breathing easier now. /

57 andydp  Sun, Sep 23, 2012 3:55:35pm

Here's a good one from another web site:

Title it "Pro Choice is for me but not for Thee"

Mitt Romney's Son Signed 'Abortion' Clause In Surrogate Birth Contract

[Link: www.tmz.com...]

Gov Romney was involved in this because he paid some of the costs associated with this. The lawyer's answer: "No one noticed".

Multiple choices:

What will happen to Gov Romney's campaign:
a: Nothing
b: 10 minutes of "anger" by "Christian family Groups"
c: It was Pres Obama's fault

If it had been President Obama's situation how many seconds do you think it would have taken for the yelling and screaming to start ?


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