Washington Post Polls: Obama Has Significant Lead in Ohio, Edge in Florida

Romney sinks further
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According to the new Washington Post polls, President Obama is continuing to increase his lead over Mitt Romney in key battleground states.

President Obama has grabbed a significant lead over Mitt Romney in Ohio and holds a slender edge in Florida, according to two new polls by The Washington Post, indicating that there are fresh hurdles in the way of the Republican challenger’s best route to victory in the Electoral College.

Among likely voters, Obama is ahead of Romney in Ohio 52 percent to 44 percent. In Florida, the president leads 51 percent to 47 percent, a numerical but not statistically significant edge. Among all registered Florida voters, Obama is ahead by nine percentage points.

The new numbers come one week after a Washington Post poll in Virginia showed Obama with a clear lead there. More than half of all money spent in the campaign has focused on these three states, and many analysts say Romney has to win two of the three to capture the White House.

UPDATE at 9/25/12 11:23:20 am

And as desperation sets in, the Republican Party is starting to whine about “skewed polls.”

Also see
Conservatives Embrace Alternate Polling Reality Epistemic Closure and Poll Denialism

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257 comments
1 Buck  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 11:25:11am

Sorry to OT so soon, but I have to go.

To those of you whom I may have offended over the year, I ask your forgiveness. May you all have a Tsom Kal (an easy fast - if you do so), and Gmar Chatimah Tova (may you be inscribed in the Book of Life) no matter what your political stand.

2 Targetpractice  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 11:25:15am

At this point, it's looking like Romney is gonna need some kinda earth-shattering event to have a chance. With early-voting getting ready to start up in many of the battleground states, even if there's an October surprise, the effect of it might be dampened.

3 erik_t  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 11:25:28am

Indeed, IIRC Romney needs to sweep all three of those states if several less-swingey states (Colorado, Wisconsin, etc) go to Obama as expected.

4 makeitstop  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 11:26:26am

Someone else said it earlier - if you're complaining about 'skewed polls' at this point in the election, it's probably because they all show you losing.

5 Varek Raith  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 11:27:15am

re: #1 Buck

Take care.

6 HappyWarrior  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 11:27:20am

re: #3 erik_t

Indeed, IIRC Romney needs to sweep all three of those states if several less-swingey states (Colorado, Wisconsin, etc) go to Obama as expected.

Sounds right. Anyhow speaking from on the ground in Virginia, I've seen more ads for Obama than Romney though the one American Crossroads ad with the small business owners is playing a ton. Just don't think Romney will fly here.

7 Lidane  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 11:29:27am
8 jamesfirecat  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 11:31:27am

Some mood music at Romney Campaign headquaters....

9 Obdicut  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 11:31:54am

Yom Kippur atones for those who repent and does not atone for those who do not repent

10 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 11:33:46am

Oh brother...

11 Targetpractice  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 11:34:17am

re: #10 NJDhockeyfan

Oh brother...

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Wonder whose bright idea that was.

12 Interesting Times  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 11:34:49am

re: #8 jamesfirecat

Some mood music at Romney Campaign headquaters....

Speaking of music, at the rate things are going, I predict Romney's debate performance will pretty much consist of him pointing to Obama and repeating the refrain from this song:

Youtube Video
13 Obdicut  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 11:36:24am

re: #10 NJDhockeyfan

I will only gain respect for him if he opens up with Gangnam style.

14 simoom  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 11:38:44am
And as desperation sets in, the Republican Party is starting to whine about “skewed polls.”

This actually isn't so different than what happen in '08, only this time it's, the polls are wrong because they're oversampling Dems, whereas then the mantra was, the polls are wrong because of the "Bradley/Wilder effect".

15 Gus  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 11:40:36am

So by now I guess everyone thinks that Assange will be speaking to the GA of the UN by way of a jumbotron...

16 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 11:41:29am

re: #1 Buck

Sorry to OT so soon, but I have to go.

To those of you whom I may have offended over the year, I ask your forgiveness. May you all have a Tsom Kal (an easy fast - if you do so), and Gmar Chatimah Tova (may you be inscribed in the Book of Life) no matter what your political stand.

This sentiment has also been on my fb. My first thought was that the person got sober and was doing the AA steps.

Jews, as always, are ahead of the curve by centuries!

17 Charles Johnson  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 11:43:57am

I love this "Unskewed Polling" site. Yeah, if we don't like the polls, we'll just go in and change the numbers to be more on our side. Unskewing rocks!

18 recusancy  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 11:44:18am

re: #11 Targetpractice

Wonder whose bright idea that was.

Literally the first word of that article.

19 Varek Raith  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 11:45:05am

Hahahahaha!
[Link: unskewedpolls.com...]

20 Bulworth  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 11:45:30am

Oh great, another skewed biased poll the librul media will run with to try and clame that kenyan ursurper is 'ahead'. I bet if Rom was ahead by 8 the librul media wouldn't say he was ahead. We're the true victims here.

21 Gus  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 11:46:34am

re: #19 Varek Raith

Hahahahaha!
[Link: unskewedpolls.com...]

UnSkewedPolls.com Favorite sites: American Thinker | Freedomist.com | DickMorris.com | Thomas Sowell | Walter E. Williams | Rush Limbaugh | Laura Ingraham

22 wrenchwench  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 11:46:45am

re: #19 Varek Raith

Hahahahaha!
[Link: unskewedpolls.com...]

From there:

UnSkewedPolls.com Favorite sites: American Thinker | Freedomist.com | DickMorris.com | Thomas Sowell | Walter E. Williams | Rush Limbaugh | Laura Ingraham

That's all I need to know.

23 Bulworth  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 11:46:53am

O 'ahead' only because librul media not reporting our Big Ideas and stuff.

24 Targetpractice  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 11:46:55am

re: #18 recusancy

Literally the first word of that article.

*facepalm*

25 jaunte  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 11:47:02am

re: #19 Varek Raith

"Unskewed polls" favorite sites:
Image: Screen_shot_2012-09-25_at_1.46.11_PM.png

26 wrenchwench  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 11:47:50am

re: #21 Gus

UnSkewedPolls.com Favorite sites: American Thinker | Freedomist.com | DickMorris.com | Thomas Sowell | Walter E. Williams | Rush Limbaugh | Laura Ingraham

No wonder I feel like my brain is not at full power. I'm sharing it...

/

27 Varek Raith  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 11:47:55am

Well, my unskewed poll says that I am in the lead.

28 wrenchwench  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 11:48:27am

re: #25 jaunte

"Unskewed polls" favorite sites:
Image: Screen_shot_2012-09-25_at_1.46.11_PM.png

Takes time to make those nice screenshots.

29 jaunte  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 11:48:36am

DickMorris.com

Hahahahaha

30 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 11:48:45am

re: #27 Varek Raith

Well, my unskewed poll says that I am in the lead.

I thought you were a believer in "One Death Ray, One Vote" and you had the Death Ray.
;P

31 Varek Raith  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 11:49:13am

re: #30 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

I thought you were a believer in "One Death Ray, One Vote" and you had the Death Ray.
;P

Oh, I do.
The poll is purely for ego.

32 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 11:49:30am

re: #19 Varek Raith

Hahahahaha!
[Link: unskewedpolls.com...]

Obvious satire sight. It's using color too well.

33 Bulworth  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 11:49:39am
Freedomist.com

Probably another anti-gay, anti-choice site no doubt. Freedom!

34 Varek Raith  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 11:50:09am

re: #29 jaunte

DickMorris.com

Hahahahaha

He's the new King of Being Wrong.
Sorry Bill Kristol.

35 Charles Johnson  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 11:50:31am

What a perfect example of current right wing magical thinking. They really do live in an alternate universe these days, and they seem to believe if they just WANT IT BADLY enough, they can actually change reality.

It's the most dysfunctional, crazy political movement I've ever seen.

36 Bulworth  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 11:50:36am
DickMorris.com

Hahahahaha

Source of the only true, unbiased, unskewed polls, which are in Dick Morris's head.

37 kirkspencer  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 11:50:43am

Historically, when pollsters changed from all voter to likely voter models there was a shift in the results that favored Republicans. This year coincided with the convention jumps with Obama gaining and keeping a larger lead.

It feeds the belief that all these professional organizations (except Gallup and Rasmussen to some extent) have engaged in a conspiracy to skew the poll results with their models. Never mind that some of the pros have shown their numbers and explained why their models exist, they're showing Obama as leading and so they're wrong.

38 Killgore Trout  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 11:51:29am

re: #10 NJDhockeyfan

Oh brother...

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That should be good.

39 Gus  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 11:51:39am

Q Star Productions aka Dean Chambers who wrote this slop.

Mitt Romney double digit lead in unskewed data from Reuters/Ipsos poll

Image: dean-chambers.jpg

40 jaunte  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 11:52:03am

re: #34 Varek Raith

He's the new King of Being Wrong.
Sorry Bill Kristol.

Image: DickMorrisLunchAlert.jpg

41 Varek Raith  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 11:52:30am

re: #39 Gus

Q Star Productions aka Dean Chambers who wrote this slop.

Mitt Romney double digit lead in unskewed data from Reuters/Ipsos poll

Image: dean-chambers.jpg

Ha!
I'd love to see their 'proof' of oversampling.

42 Bulworth  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 11:53:07am
Q Star Productions aka Dean Chambers who wrote this slop.

Mitt Romney double digit lead in unskewed data from Reuters/Ipsos poll

Double digit! /

43 Lidane  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 11:53:37am

re: #35 Charles Johnson

What a perfect example of current right wing magical thinking. They really do live in an alternate universe these days, and they seem to believe if they just WANT IT BADLY enough, they can actually change reality.

I do believe in fairies Romney! I do! I DO!

///

44 Gus  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 11:53:46am

re: #41 Varek Raith

Ha!
I'd love to see their 'proof' of oversampling.

[Link: www.dean2112.com...]

45 Varek Raith  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 11:53:50am

Romney - 213455234545732034985702394857%

Obama - 0

46 Targetpractice  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 11:54:33am

re: #41 Varek Raith

Ha!
I'd love to see their 'proof' of oversampling.

Their "proof" is pretty much in the Hill article posted by Charles, namely that they're absolutely sure that '08 was an aberration, that the desire to put the first black man in the White House is over and black folks and minorities won't show up in the numbers they did then. That the angry white vote will rule the day.

47 wrenchwench  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 11:55:14am

re: #46 Targetpractice

Their "proof" is pretty much in the Hill article posted by Charles, namely that they're absolutely sure that '08 was an aberration, that the desire to put the first black man in the White House is over and black folks and minorities won't show up in the numbers they did then. That the angry white vote will rule the day.

So, pretty much the Limbaugh line.

48 Varek Raith  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 11:55:20am

re: #46 Targetpractice

Their "proof" is pretty much in the Hill article posted by Charles, namely that they're absolutely sure that '08 was an aberration, that the desire to put the first black man in the White House is over and black folks and minorities won't show up in the numbers they did then. That the angry white vote will rule the day.

That simple eh?
I haz a sad.
Was hoping for some grand conspiracy!

49 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 11:55:53am

If they convince themselves that Romney is up 10-15% will they therefore stay home from the polls since the outcome is in the bag? (And thus have an excuse to rant, scream, and claim fraud when reality imposes its will.)

50 DisturbedEma  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 11:56:18am

re: #9 Obdicut

In complete sincerity- while it may seem ridiculous, I feel I must ask for your forgiveness before Yom Kippur. After the game last night, I realize that I was no better than the 2 Wisconsin politicians who tweeted about the union refs in the NFL being locked out, they only care about unions in the context of fandom. I continued to watch the games despite the lockout, and realize that by doing so, it was akin to crossing a picket line, one I could not see. I have Sunday Ticket, but will not watch another NFL game until the refs are back. Sadly I didn't have your clarity on this issue, and I should have, but was blind. In addition to asking for forgiveness for any offense I may have given, I ask you to forgive me for letting my fandom get in the way of my principles. May everyone be blessed in the coming year, regardless of deity allegiances, or the lack thereof.

51 dragonfire1981  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 11:56:43am

re: #17 Charles Johnson

I love this "Unskewed Polling" site. Yeah, if we don't like the polls, we'll just go in and change the numbers to be more on our side. Unskewing rocks!

Well the Romney campaign DID say they aren't concerned with facts right?

52 dragonfire1981  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 11:57:43am

re: #46 Targetpractice

Their "proof" is pretty much in the Hill article posted by Charles, namely that they're absolutely sure that '08 was an aberration, that the desire to put the first black man in the White House is over and black folks and minorities won't show up in the numbers they did then. That the angry white christian male vote will rule the day.

Edited for accuracy.

53 Obdicut  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 11:58:07am

re: #50 DisturbedEma

First of all, you committed no offense against me whatsoever. If there is an offense-- and I don't believe there is-- it was committed towards the refs.

Second, I really don't watch much NFL at all so it's not like this is a big deprivation. however, big ups to you for giving the reps the props they deserve and standing in solidarity with them. The only way the NFL is going to get smart on this is if people actually start not watching games.

Problem is now they've kind of turned it into reality TV, and that'll probably increase the ratings over the very short term, while damaging the credibility of the NFL for a long time.

54 Targetpractice  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 11:58:14am

re: #47 wrenchwench

So, pretty much the Limbaugh line.

Pretty much. They're convinced that all the major polling houses are skewing their numbers in Obama's favor, no doubt all them holding liberal biases or not wanting to be thought of as "conservative," and so the real numbers really fall in Romney's favor. Plus they're banking on 80% or more of the undecided vote to go Romney, which they think is the critical edge once their "unskewed polls" are factored in that show a "real" lead either for Romney or by a couple points for Obama.

55 mr.fusion  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 11:59:15am

re: #41 Varek Raith

Ha!
I'd love to see their 'proof' of oversampling.

If the Romney campaign truly felt that the polls were way off they would release one of their internals showing that to be the case -- at least with the top line numbers.

I find it very interesting that their pollster is saying that all of the polls are BS.....but didn't mention their internal numbers at all

56 dragonfire1981  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 11:59:25am

ROMNEY DEFEATS OBAMA

That about sums it up.

57 Killgore Trout  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:01:45pm

Anyone else hate that ugly green tile behind the podium at the UN? It's always bugged me for some reason.

58 Targetpractice  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:02:44pm

The wingnuts seem convinced that, rather than looking like '08, the map's gonna look more like '10, that folks are so dejected with Obama's presidency that they'll either not show up to vote or will pull the lever for Romney just to be rid of the "failure" in the White House.

59 Gus  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:02:49pm

Julian Assange will not be speaking to the GA tomorrow but instead an official meeting in Conference Room 6 of the North Lawn Building.

60 BongCrodny  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:03:37pm

re: #46 Targetpractice

Their "proof" is pretty much in the Hill article posted by Charles, namely that they're absolutely sure that '08 was an aberration, that the desire to put the first black man in the White House is over and black folks and minorities won't show up in the numbers they did then. That the angry white vote will rule the day.

I really don't get this "aberration" nonsense. Democrats ran two seriously stiff candidates in 2000 and 2004, and came within a whisker of winning both times.

Yes, Yes -- I know Al won in 2000. If we could go back in time and show the Supremes what happened circa 2008, we might be able to Quantum Leap the whole Bush presidency.

61 Killgore Trout  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:04:02pm

re: #59 Gus

Julian Assange will not be speaking to the GA tomorrow but instead an official meeting in Conference Room 6 of the North Lawn Building.

Yes, the article NJD linked to made that very clear.

62 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:04:06pm

re: #19 Varek Raith

Hahahahaha!
[Link: unskewedpolls.com...]

Holy shit...Romney's absolutely KILLING Obama in the land of make believe.

63 wrenchwench  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:04:33pm

re: #59 Gus

Julian Assange will not be speaking to the GA tomorrow but instead an official meeting in Conference Room 6 of the North Lawn Building.

BYO sack lunch.

64 wrenchwench  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:04:48pm

re: #63 wrenchwench

BYO sack lunch.

and a chair.

65 DisturbedEma  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:05:11pm

re: #53 Obdicut

In reading your posts to others over the years, it felt like it needed to be said in order for me to continue to have credibility when posting here. Ryan and Walker tweets about this issue this morning made me feel like I was not true to my real beliefs by watching and complaining. While it is true I probably didn't need to ask for your forgiveness per se, in keeping with the spirit of this forum, I felt I had to atone for this in some way. I am pro union and despite the fact that I am a fan, I can't in good faith, continue to watch and say I am pro union.

66 Gus  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:05:20pm

re: #64 wrenchwench

and a chair.

Two chairs. One for you and another one so you can talk to an empty chair.

//

67 Targetpractice  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:05:48pm

re: #60 BongCrodny

I really don't get this "aberration" nonsense. Democrats ran two seriously stiff candidates in 2000 and 2004, and came within a whisker of winning both times.

Yes, Yes -- I know Al won in 2000. If we could go back in time and show the Supremes what happened circa 2008, we might*be able to Quantum Leap the whole Bush presidency.

Because they're convinced that the only thing he had going for him in '08 was his skin color. Seriously, they think that if Obama had been white, it would have been a McCain victory or another replay of '00. They refuse to acknowledge that the stink of Dubya was such that people were willing to put a Democrat into the White House.

68 dragonfire1981  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:05:54pm

Unskewed polls REALLY needs a democratic satire made of it. I bet you could even convince the right wingers it was real.

69 Gus  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:06:22pm

re: #61 Killgore Trout

Yes, the article NJD linked to made that very clear.

Yes, but I know what happens to stories like this.

70 Targetpractice  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:07:23pm

Personally like how the Hill article says that the nitwit running Unskewed is working with the same breakdown as Rasmussen is, but is running Romney at 11 points ahead while Rasmussen has him as the one-point underdog.

71 BongCrodny  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:07:33pm

re: #19 Varek Raith

Hahahahaha!
[Link: unskewedpolls.com...]

Awesome.

"I don't do conspiracy theories" right before launching into a conspiracy theory.

72 Killgore Trout  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:08:28pm

Iranian state press reissues its claims about OWS meeting with Ahmedinijad (15 minutes ago)
Ahmadinejad set to meet Occupy Wall Street members in New York
I think they may have changed the title to OWS "members" instead of just "ows.

73 Kragar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:10:35pm

re: #10 NJDhockeyfan

Oh brother...

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Will he be wearing a quasi-futuristic jumpsuit and stroking a long haired white cat during his speech?

74 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:10:41pm

re: #63 wrenchwench

BYO sack lunch.

Tofu required.

75 Targetpractice  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:10:42pm

re: #71 BongCrodny

Awesome.

"I don't do conspiracy theories" right before launching into a conspiracy theory.

I don't always engage in conspiracy theories, but when I do, Romney wins in all of them.

Stay nutty, my friends.

//

76 kirkspencer  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:10:43pm

re: #55 mr.fusion

If the Romney campaign truly felt that the polls were way off they would release one of their internals showing that to be the case -- at least with the top line numbers.

I find it very interesting that their pollster is saying that all of the polls are BS.....but didn't mention their internal numbers at all

Actually the article did explain it in a couple of places.

Argument one. Facts: Party self-ID was 7% greater for D than R in 2008. It's only 5%D now. Allegation: that Obama favoring pollsters are still using 7%. Weakness: Unskewed and its ilk are claiming the margin should be 2%D or less. Additional fact: both D and R self-IDs are down from 2008 with I experiencing significant gain. If "leans" from the voters who self-identify as I are given to respective parties the actual D margin becomes +9%.

Argument two. Fact: non-white turnout (both proportional and total) of the vote was at a record high in 2008, and was lower in 2010. Allegation: It was a fluke spike and the turnout will be lower. Weakness: a) the challengers are claiming numbers on par with 2002, not 2004 or 2006. Additional point: off-year and main-year matter. 2010's non-white turnout was larger than 2006 which was larger than 2002. Likewise 2000 and 2004 saw new records for non-white turnout. In other words the challenger model is a reversal of trend.

They explain their reasoning. It just requires a little historical revisionism to work.

77 kirkspencer  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:11:42pm

re: #68 dragonfire1981

Unskewed polls REALLY needs a democratic satire made of it. I bet you could even convince the right wingers it was real.

How do you know it isn't really a democratic satire?

78 Gus  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:11:52pm
79 Lidane  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:12:32pm
80 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:13:07pm
81 Kragar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:13:56pm

FTC Catches PC Rental Companies Spying On Users, Taking Secret Webcam Pics

The Federal Trade Commission on Tuesday released a bombshell privacy agreement it reached with eight companies, most of them PC rental firms and one software company, for using PC tracking and security software called "Detective Mode" to spy on customers, including taking pictures of them using the PC's webcameras, without consumers' knowledge or consent.

The eight companies named include:

DesignerWare, LLC
Aspen Way Enterprises, Inc.
B. Stamper Enterprises, Inc.
C.A.L.M. Ventures, Inc.
J.A.G. Rents, LLC
Red Zone Investment Group, Inc
Showplace, Inc.
Watershed Development Corp.

The FTC's agreement with the companies prevents them from repeating the snooping activities without expressed affirmative consumer approval and bans them from using the information collected using the "Detective Mode" software. It also bans the maker of the "Detective Mode" software, DesignerWare, from using it again. But the companies do not face a fine or other penalty.

Obviously this was another case of responsible business practices by private companies being attacked by government regulations.
/

82 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:13:56pm

re: #80 darthstar

Honking the horn and with the windows down I presume?

83 Kragar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:14:59pm

re: #80 darthstar

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"MY GOD! THE BUS WINDOWS DON'T ROLL DOWN EITHER! WE'RE GOING TO SUFFOCATE!"

84 Bulworth  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:17:03pm

Yeah, you're all laughing now. But just you wait until the GOP convention. Then you'll see. There will be major Bounce. Victory!

//

85 Targetpractice  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:17:35pm

re: #78 Gus

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He points out something that a lot of the "unskewed" nutters are taking for granted, namely that there's this great untapped reserve of undecideds who are going to break for Romney at the last second and cart his ass to victory. Another is that any who are polled are say they're gonna vote third party will, when they get to the poll, have a "come to jesus" moment and decide that a vote for Romney is better than another 4 years of Obama.

The amount of assumptions necessary at this point to entertain a Romney victory is staggering in its complexity.

86 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:18:12pm

Paul Ryan's Powerpoint

A word about PowerPoint. PowerPoint was released by Microsoft in 1990 as a way to euthanize cattle using a method less cruel than hitting them over the head with iron mallets. After PETA successfully argued in court that PowerPoint actually was more cruel than iron mallets, the program was adopted by corporations for slide show presentations.

Conducting a PowerPoint presentation is a lot like smoking a cigar. Only the person doing it likes it. The people around him want to hit him with a chair.

PowerPoint is usually restricted to conference rooms where the doors are locked from the outside. It is, therefore, considered unsuited for large rallies, where people have a means of escape and where the purpose is to energize rather than daze.

Ryan’s PowerPoint slides were officially labeled: “Our Unsustainable Debt (U.S. Debt Held by Public as a Share of Economy),” “Your Share of the Debt,” “Who Funds Our Reckless Spending?” and “How the Government Spends Your Money.”

The Romney campaign was furious. But Ryan reportedly said, “Let Ryan be Ryan and let the Stench be the Stench.”


Read more: [Link: www.politico.com...]

87 Kragar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:18:20pm

re: #84 Bulworth

Yeah, you're all laughing now. But just you wait until the GOP convention. Then you'll see. There will be major Bounce. Victory!

//

I'm thinking the numbers will shoot up once Romney announces his VP choice.
/

88 erik_t  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:20:18pm

re: #85 Targetpractice

The amount of assumptions necessary at this point to entertain a Romney victory current lead is staggering in its complexity.

FTFY. Any number of horrific events could occur before November.

89 Charles Johnson  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:21:37pm

A good article on this subject: Epistemic Closure and Poll Denialism.

90 lawhawk  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:21:41pm

re: #27 Varek Raith

Well, my unskewed poll says that I am in the lead.

Cthulhu is in the lead. No polls include him because if they did, he'd win 90% of the vote. The remaining 10% would go to Zod. There are no undecideds. /

91 Lidane  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:21:58pm

re: #84 Bulworth

Yeah, you're all laughing now. But just you wait until the GOP convention. Then you'll see. There will be major Bounce. Victory!

//

92 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:21:59pm

Cognitive Dissonance is a terrible thing to watch.

93 Kragar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:23:34pm

re: #91 Lidane

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Any day now...

94 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:24:05pm

re: #85 Targetpractice

He points out something that a lot of the "unskewed" nutters are taking for granted, namely that there's this great untapped reserve of undecideds who are going to break for Romney at the last second and cart his ass to victory. Another is that any who are polled are say they're gonna vote third party will, when they get to the poll, have a "come to jesus" moment and decide that a vote for Romney is better than another 4 years of Obama.

The amount of assumptions necessary at this point to entertain a Romney victory is staggering in its complexity.

A "come to Diebold" moment is more likely. :p

95 kirkspencer  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:25:16pm

re: #91 Lidane

[Embedded content]

Dick Morris got his feefees hurt when Clinton fired him. He's been a reliable Republican operative ever since, though it took a while for his claim to be a "reasonable democrat" to wear thin enough most people could see through it.

96 Targetpractice  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:25:31pm

re: #92 ggt

Cognitive Dissonance is a terrible thing to watch.

But it is a hell of a drug.

//

98 Targetpractice  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:26:27pm

re: #90 lawhawk

Cthulhu is in the lead. No polls include him because if they did, he'd win 90% of the vote. The remaining 10% would go to Zod. There are no undecideds. /

Bah, we know those polls are skewed! All of America wishes to kneel before Zod!

///

99 Kragar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:26:30pm

I can imagine a room full of GOP consultants sitting around.

"Any way we can arrange a hooker scandal?"

"On who?"

"It really doesn't matter at this point."

"True."

100 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:27:27pm

re: #99 Kragar

I can imagine a room full of GOP consultants sitting around.

"Any way we can arrange a hooker scandal?"

"On who?"

"It really doesn't matter at this point."

"True."

Funny you should say that...look at my #97.

101 Targetpractice  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:27:30pm

re: #99 Kragar

I can imagine a room full of GOP consultants sitting around.

"Any way we can arrange a hooker scandal?"

"On who?"

"It really doesn't matter at this point."

"True."

What, you didn't hear? The Breitbartians were just the other day getting their jollies off to the idea that the Columbia hooker scandal was gonna go all the way to the White House.

102 Kragar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:27:38pm

re: #97 darthstar

The best way to get a family values Republican to appreciate his family and want to spend more time with them is to catch him in a racketeering scandal involving a brothel.

Why did he see a sex worker?

You can't expect him to do things like that with his wife!!!

/rimshot

103 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:27:57pm

re: #100 darthstar

Funny you should say that...look at my #97.

Oh, a hooker scandal involving a DEMOCRAT...damn...next time be more clear in your request.

104 A Mom Anon  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:28:47pm

Oh lordy. I've got a banner ad now telling me Andrew Breitbart presents a new movie called Occupy Unmasked. In selected theaters this weekend. whee. With the anarchy symbol spray painted over the a in unmasked. ooh,clever. And perhaps more than a little creepy,since the presenter is dead. Though it would be creepy even if he weren't. I swear if I close my eyes and listen I can hear a low pitched squeal from wingnuttia that won't go away. I feel like that's only going to get worse,no matter the outcome of the election.

105 steve_davis  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:29:31pm

re: #2 Targetpractice

At this point, it's looking like Romney is gonna need some kinda earth-shattering event to have a chance. With early-voting getting ready to start up in many of the battleground states, even if there's an October surprise, the effect of it might be dampened.

The problem for Romney is that the earth-shattering events he keeps having involve him putting his Mitts firmly in his mouth.

106 Kragar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:29:33pm

re: #103 darthstar

Oh, a hooker scandal involving a DEMOCRAT...damn...next time be more clear in your request.

"I've never seen so many dead hookers in all my life!"

Youtube Video
107 Gus  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:29:33pm

re: #104 A Mom Anon

Oh lordy. I've got a banner ad now telling me Andrew Breitbart presents a new movie called Occupy Unmasked. In selected theaters this weekend. whee. With the anarchy symbol spray painted over the a in unmasked. ooh,clever. And perhaps more than a little creepy,since the presenter is dead. Though it would be creepy even if he weren't. I swear if I close my eyes and listen I can hear a low pitched squeal from wingnuttia that won't go away. I feel like that's only going to get worse,no matter the outcome of the election.

Plus OWS is practically dead as well.

108 Targetpractice  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:32:45pm

Speaking of Breitbart, they've now got a follow-up to their recent "Come to Jesus" post to libertarians, reiterating just how important it is for Paulians to support the Constitution...by voting for Romney.

Seriously, it's comedy that writes itself.

109 lawhawk  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:32:59pm

OT:

Someone is creatively defacing the SIOA/Geller MTA ads.

110 sagehen  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:34:40pm

re: #57 Killgore Trout

Anyone else hate that ugly green tile behind the podium at the UN? It's always bugged me for some reason.

You'd think they would know better than to give us green-screen ready footage...

111 calochortus  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:34:42pm

re: #104 A Mom Anon

Lucky you. All I've got is an "Obama supporters are changing their vote" ad.

112 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:34:55pm
113 jc717  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:35:01pm

re: #62 darthstar

Holy shit...Romney's absolutely KILLING Obama in the land of make believe.

You mean in Imagination Land where Jesus and Captain Crunch are part of his campaign team.

Youtube Video
114 Big Steve  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:35:04pm

re: #109 lawhawk

OT:

Someone is creativelyillegally defacing the SIOA/Geller MTA ads.

fixed

115 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:35:37pm

Image: 487528_527315657282192_1130305874_n.jpg

116 Kragar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:37:51pm

Other counties may join in using Pennsylvania voter-ID law loophole

On Thursday, Allegheny and Montgomery Counties said they would begin issuing their own ID cards through county-run facilities.

The move exploits a loophole in the new law that allows both colleges and senior-care centers to provide such cards to anyone who lives in the county - not just to the people who attend those colleges or reside in those centers.

The counties' officials explained their decisions by citing complaints from residents who had run into trouble obtaining the required photo ID through the state's preferred route, the Department of Transportation.

Some said PennDot workers turned them away for failing to bring sufficient proof of identity, while others were rejected for bringing documents with slightly mismatched names.

"This does not solve the problems across the Commonwealth," Montgomery County Commissioners Chairman, Josh Shapiro, a Democrat, said of his county's plan. "But it is an important step in the right direction for our constituents."

117 Decatur Deb  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:37:57pm

re: #109 lawhawk

OT:

Someone is creatively defacing the SIOA/Geller MTA ads.

Stickers? Very disappointing.
Where are the NY graffiti artists of yesteryear?

118 Kragar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:38:40pm

re: #117 Decatur Deb

Stickers? Very disappointing.
Where are the NY graffiti artists of yesteryear?

Who knew? Turk 182

120 Kaessa  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:39:57pm

OT, but more Donald Trump idiocy.

121 makeitstop  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:40:02pm

re: #117 Decatur Deb

Stickers? Very disappointing.
Where are the NY graffiti artists of yesteryear?

Stickers are just easier to deal with. You can un-peel them ahead of time and apply them while walking by.

(Not that I've ever done such a thing.)

122 engineer cat  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:40:41pm

re: #9 Obdicut

Yom Kippur atones for those who repent and does not atone for those who do not repent

i tried repainting my sins

123 dragonath  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:41:08pm

re: #122 engineer cat

i tried repainting my sins

DEFACEMENT! ILLEGAL

124 Killgore Trout  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:41:21pm

re: #110 sagehen

You'd think they would know better than to give us green-screen ready footage...

lol

125 Charles Johnson  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:41:29pm
126 Kragar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:41:29pm

Mitt Romney explains why Citizens United was wrong

I just think that the most important aspect in being able to have a productive relationship between the teachers’ unions and the districts in the states that they are dealing with is that the person sitting across the table from them should not have received the largest campaign contributions from the teachers’ union itself. . . . The largest contributors to the Democratic Party are the teachers’ unions, the federal teachers unions, and so, if [the unions] can elect someone that person is supposed to be representing the public vis a vis the teachers’ union, but actually most of their money came from the teachers’ union. It’s an extraordinary conflict of interest. That’s something I think is a problem and should be addressed.

Romney is right! When a wealthy individual or organization that has a stake in public policy is able to spend their vast fortunes influencing elections, that inevitably leads to corruption. No one should have any illusions that politicians who enjoy massive support from teachers’ unions are any less corruptible than those who enjoy the support of Republican casino billionaires.

Yet this problem cannot “be addressed,” as Romney suggests, because the Supreme Court declared in Citizens United v. FEC that wealthy corporations and unions have a right to spend unlimited sums of money to buy and sell elections. The core holding of Citizens United was that massive outside spending seeking to change the result of an election “do[es] not give rise to corruption or the appearance of corruption.” Apparently, even Mitt Romney understands that this holding makes no sense.

If Romney is worried about the impact union donations can have on lawmakers’ behavior, than he should be absolutely outraged by corporate, millionaire and billionaire donations. Federal law permits workers to opt-out of union dues spent to influence elections, which means that union election spending comes from pooling small contributions from workers who did not exercise this legal right. Corporations, by contrast, are under no obligation to seek approval from their investors or other stakeholders before trying to buy an election.

127 lawhawk  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:41:37pm

re: #117 Decatur Deb

Someone had those stickers ready to go - as opposed to tagging them.

Steve:

Would you prefer calling this - vandals label hateful ads hateful. B/c that's exactly what those ads are. They are meant to incite and ignore the fact that the overwhelming majority of those killed in Islamic terror attacks are fellow Muslims. And that counts the 9/11 attacks.

128 makeitstop  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:41:43pm

re: #119 Gus

See the New Full-Page "Seriously Ugly and False Anti-Obama Ad"

Whoa. Somebody got crazy with the half-tone screens on that one.

129 Kragar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:42:30pm

re: #122 engineer cat

i tried repainting my sins

You need to sand between coats.

130 engineer cat  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:42:38pm

re: #119 Gus

See the New Full-Page "Seriously Ugly and False Anti-Obama Ad"

"force schools to hire non-christian teachers"

nu?

131 Targetpractice  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:43:26pm

re: #125 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

I miss Mike Steele.

132 Decatur Deb  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:43:31pm

re: #122 engineer cat

i tried repainting my sins

FFfft. I repant my shins every morning most mornings.

133 dragonath  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:43:44pm

re: #128 makeitstop

Whoa. Somebody got crazy with the half-tone screens on that one.

Barack Obama, the first Plaid president.

134 lawhawk  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:44:27pm

re: #119 Gus

And the guy behind that site is apparently a big Akin supporter. Go figure....

135 makeitstop  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:45:30pm

re: #134 lawhawk

And the guy behind that site is apparently a big Akin supporter. Go figure....

And Madeline Murray O'Hair's son! That's just weird.

136 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:45:44pm

re: #126 Kragar

Mitt Romney explains why Citizens United was wrong

It's wrong because IT ISN'T HELPING HIM!

137 Targetpractice  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:47:00pm

re: #136 darthstar

It's wrong because IT ISN'T HELPING HIM!

Well, it helped him steamroll over his opponents in the primaries. Thing is that shit is expensive and it left his biggest donors tapped out when it came time to stare down Obama.

138 wrenchwench  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:48:09pm

re: #125 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

It's like that old dance, "Limbo" "Limbaugh": "How low can you go...?

139 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:49:19pm

Roho Shaggy...

140 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:50:47pm

re: #137 Targetpractice

Well, it helped him steamroll over his opponents in the primaries. Thing is that shit is expensive and it left his biggest donors tapped out when it came time to stare down Obama.

I gave you thousands of dollars and you barely beat Santorum? Don't ask me for another dime.

141 Targetpractice  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:50:59pm

re: #139 darthstar

Roho Shaggy...

[Embedded content]

Thank you, FNC, for helping make it so easy to mock this half-wit.

142 dragonath  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:52:00pm

It's kinda weird how Romney's biggest supporter is a casino mogul. I mean, I thought the Mormon church was against that kind of thing.

143 Kragar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:53:15pm

re: #142 dragonath

It's kinda weird how Romney's biggest supporter is a casino mogul. I mean, I thought the Mormon church was against that kind of thing.

It all makes sense because shut up.

144 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:57:36pm

re: #143 Kragar

It all makes sense because shut up.

Obviously something connecting them beyond religious sensibilities.

145 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:58:29pm

re: #142 dragonath

well, considering they allow Lying for the lord I am sure that they are excusing this too.

146 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 12:59:40pm

re: #81 Kragar

FTC Catches PC Rental Companies Spying On Users, Taking Secret Webcam Pics

Obviously this was another case of responsible business practices by private companies being attacked by government regulations.
/

Yep, whereas if I had done this my ass would be sitting in jail with an arms length sheet of charges against me. And I would probably have to register as a sex offender where ever I moved to. Yet these companies (people you know) get off without even a slap on the wrist.

147 Gus  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:00:31pm

bbl

148 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:01:21pm

re: #146 Eventual Carrion

Yep, whereas if I had done this my ass would be sitting in jail with an arms length sheet of charges against me. And I would probably have to register as a sex offender where ever I moved to. Yet these companies (people you know) get off without even a slap on the wrist.

But if you did it it would be because you're a depraved creep. They are just collecting marketing data...
///

149 dragonfire1981  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:02:09pm

How accurate is this graphic?

150 dragonath  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:02:40pm

re: #145 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

well, considering they allow Lying for the lord I am sure that they are excusing this too.

Um, I'm not sure about that site. From the Joseph Smith Jr. page:

Joseph Smith, Jr. (December 23, 1805 – June 27, 1844), a treasure seeker and money digger, occultist, polygamist, freemason, deceiver, and false prophet, was the founder and leader of the Mormon church

151 Charles Johnson  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:03:52pm

OK, now I'm seeing the ad for "Dead Breitbart presents Occupy Unmasked," too.

I started to go and block it, but then I realized I like the idea of the Breitbrats giving their money to me.

152 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:04:11pm

re: #149 dragonfire1981

it's accurate, of course those UE numbers are not necessarily the result of the government there.

153 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:07:27pm

re: #150 dragonath

that was just the first site to pop up on teh google but there are plenty more that site "lying for the lord".

154 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:07:57pm

Oooh somebody does not like my alternative ad to Pam Geller's subway hate posters.

I do not like Pamela Geller and feel she often goes too far. However, this time she is correct and you have gone too far. There is nothing "Islamophobic" about saying that Jihad is savage any more than it is "Christophobic" to say the Crusades - or the Inquisition - were savage. It is not "Islamophobic" to say that respected Muslim leaders call for Jihad against Israel and use Islam to whip up hatred against Israel. These are facts. It is not "Islamophobic" to say that we see very little opposition to these calls for Jihad from respected Muslim leaders, or to say that Muslims who call for coexistence with Israel are usually condemned vociferously by their fellow Muslims. These are also, unfortunately, facts. Pamela Geller's ad says "fight Jihad", not "fight Islam". Do you really believe that the vicious savagery of Jihad is so typical of Islam that use of the word is hate speech against Muslims in general? If so, then you are the "dumbass" for not seeing that Islam is something to be feared and fought. Wishing you a Shana Tovah and well over the Fast.

Please Tweet the alternative ad!

155 lawhawk  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:10:47pm

re: #149 dragonfire1981

[Link: www.bls.gov...]

Curiously, among the bottom 10 (out of 50 states and DC):

40 CONNECTICUT 9.0 - D
41 ILLINOIS 9.1 - D
41 MISSISSIPPI 9.1 - R
41 NEW YORK 9.1 - D
44 GEORGIA 9.2 - R
45 MICHIGAN 9.4 - R
46 SOUTH CAROLINA 9.6 - R
47 NORTH CAROLINA 9.7 - R
48 NEW JERSEY 9.9 - R
49 CALIFORNIA 10.6 - D
50 RHODE ISLAND 10.7 - I
51 NEVADA 12.1 - R

One could flip that argument around and claim that 6 of the bottom 9 are GOP led states, or 7 out of 10 of the bottom are GOP led states.

What that says is that the political leadership of a particular state doesn't necessarily correlate with unemployment rates. Note too that the unemployment rates in places like the Dakotas is affected by the fracking boom, while some states like NV are suffering from the housing collapse still. Then there's NJ, which has a much higher unemployment rate than neighboring NY, even though both are dealing with the fallout from the financial crisis/retrenchment by those firms, pharma companies leaving (Roche) and the larger problems with the slow housing recovery.

156 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:11:00pm

The data god has spoken.

157 dragonfire1981  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:11:01pm

This seems about right

158 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:11:38pm

re: #155 lawhawk

California made the top 50! Whoo-hoo! Take that, Nevada!

159 Targetpractice  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:13:06pm

re: #156 darthstar

The data god has spoken.

[Embedded content]

All hail the Polling God! *bows*

//

160 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:13:22pm

re: #139 darthstar

Round on the ends, dull in the middle!

161 JamesWI  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:14:10pm

Uh oh, Romney had a brief moment of honesty....Yep, he's screwed:

162 Targetpractice  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:14:45pm

re: #161 JamesWI

Uh oh, Romney had a brief moment of honesty....Yep, he's screwed:

[Embedded content]

Is it just me or is he looking older with every campaign appearance?

163 dragonath  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:15:58pm

Nice red jacket.

164 Kaessa  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:16:01pm
165 erik_t  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:16:02pm

re: #162 Targetpractice

Is it just me or is he looking older with every campaign appearance?

Happens to all of them, but Romney seems to be suffering more than most.

166 dragonfire1981  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:16:06pm

re: #162 Targetpractice

Is it just me or is he looking older with every campaign appearance?

His aging subroutines have been going haywire as of late, apparently the maintenance guys just aren't that motivated these days.

167 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:16:18pm

re: #161 JamesWI

Uh oh, Romney had a brief moment of honesty....Yep, he's screwed:

[Embedded content]

Is that a disappointed look on Ryan's face or what?

168 JamesWI  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:16:26pm

hahaha

169 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:17:34pm

re: #168 JamesWI

hahaha

[Embedded content]

Imagine what it's like for the bookmakers in Las Vegas.

170 A Mom Anon  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:17:59pm

re: #154 Sheila Brovlofski

I love that,very nice. I don't tweet,or I would retweet it.

171 JamesWI  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:18:11pm

re: #169 darthstar

Imagine what it's like for the bookmakers in Las Vegas.

I'm a Packer fan. I was up past 4 in the morning still pissed, and it didn't go away with sleep.

172 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:19:53pm

re: #171 JamesWI

I'm a Packer fan. I was up past 4 in the morning still pissed, and it didn't go away with sleep.

I thought the WI in your name was for Michigan and you just got the letter upside down.

173 Targetpractice  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:20:38pm

re: #169 darthstar

Imagine what it's like for the bookmakers in Las Vegas.

Bookies must be losing their minds. "No, you can't get your 'winnings,' because I refuse to recognize that call!"

174 erik_t  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:21:13pm

re: #173 Targetpractice

Bookies must be losing their minds. "No, you can't get your 'winnings,' because I refuse to recognize that call!"

Apparently several sports books refunded all bets due to the outright fishiness.

175 JamesWI  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:22:07pm
176 makeitstop  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:23:11pm

re: #162 Targetpractice

Is it just me or is he looking older with every campaign appearance?

He sure isn't getting any less stiff.

177 gwangung  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:23:40pm

re: #171 JamesWI

I'm a Packer fan. I was up past 4 in the morning still pissed, and it didn't go away with sleep.

Dude, I commiserate; I'm a Seahawks fan and I think you got screwed big time.

178 Targetpractice  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:23:48pm

re: #176 makeitstop

He sure isn't getting any less stiff.

Rigor mortis seems to have set into the campaign.

179 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:24:02pm

re: #151 Charles Johnson

OK, now I'm seeing the ad for "Dead Breitbart presents Occupy Unmasked," too.

I started to go and block it, but then I realized I like the idea of the Breitbrats giving their money to me.

Sometimes - rarely, but sometimes - I'm a little hesitant to link LGF links to friends specifically because of the sometimes bizarrely mixed messages that could be inferred by seeing a Breitbart-sponsored ad banner right above a front-page link about the Loeschs' latest self-promoted psychotic episode.

I wouldn't suggest changing anything, as it is amusing to think of such advertisers wasting their money on an inherently disinterested target audience, but for people who don't know the history of LGF it can be a bit of a head-scratcher.

180 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:24:18pm

re: #170 A Mom Anon

I love that,very nice. I don't tweet,or I would retweet it.

Well, Facebook it or something.

181 Lidane  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:26:14pm

re: #171 JamesWI

I'm a Packer fan. I was up past 4 in the morning still pissed, and it didn't go away with sleep.

I'm a Packer fan and I've been pissed since last night.

However, even Bears and Vikings fans I know are right there with me saying the call was bullshit and that the refs are idiots.

182 AntonSirius  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:26:26pm

re: #50 DisturbedEma

I have Sunday Ticket, but will not watch another NFL game until the refs are back.

183 Targetpractice  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:27:27pm

re: #181 Lidane

I'm a Packer fan and I've been pissed since last night.

However, even Bears and Vikings fans I know are right there with me saying the call was bullshit and that the refs are idiots.

My old man, a Seahawks fan, admitted to me just a short bit ago that GB got robbed. And he's none too happy to admit it.

184 dr. luba  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:29:10pm

re: #157 dragonfire1981

Or this one.

185 JamesWI  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:29:14pm
10. Green Bay Packers (1-2)
Tomorrow, I'm going to walk up to M.D. Jennings' car, put my hand on the hood of it, and then see if I can get a court of law to rule that it's legally mine.
186 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:30:20pm
187 erik_t  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:30:32pm

re: #185 JamesWI

Don't forget to shove his friend out of the passenger seat first.

188 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:32:54pm

re: #181 Lidane

I'm a Packer fan and I've been pissed since last night.

However, even Bears and Vikings fans I know are right there with me saying the call was bullshit and that the refs are idiots.

Vikings fan here. The call was bullshit, the refs are idiots, and Seattle gets the win. Suck it, #packers. :)

189 dragonfire1981  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:34:29pm

re: #187 erik_t

Don't forget to shove his friend out of the passenger seat first.

Niiiice.

190 JamesWI  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:36:00pm

I wonder if all the people who lost millions on that call have ANY cause of action to bring a lawsuit.

I'm sure they're looking through the books right now to find out.

191 lawhawk  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:36:02pm

re: #181 Lidane

And where was the replay refs? They aren't replacements (only the on-the-field refs are). They missed the call too - claiming that Seattle had possession when it appears that the GB defender had it. The replay ref can't call the pass interference (only on the field refs can do that).

GB got screwed twice - once because of the non-call pass interference, and then that the refs (and the replay judge) didn't think that GB had possession when by all measures they did. The fact that it was replacements on the field didn't help, but the replay judge in that game didn't do anyone any favors by ignoring the right call there.

192 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:37:25pm

re: #148 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

But if you did it it would be because you're a depraved creep. They are just collecting marketing data...
///

I am not depraved, I'm as praved as anyone.

[the creep thing just makes me interesting]

193 makeitstop  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:37:49pm

re: #186 darthstar

Mitt Romney tries to lead a chant. Big mistake.

Didja catch that? They were chanting 'Ryan, Ryan...'

I think the boss was a little pissed that they forgotted him.

194 dragonfire1981  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:39:24pm

re: #193 makeitstop

Didja catch that? They were chanting 'Ryan, Ryan...'

I think the boss was a little pissed that they forgotted him.

No they were actually chanting "Ryan, Romney" instead of the other way around. Apparently Mitt just loves to be No. 1 all the time.

195 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:39:35pm

re: #193 makeitstop

Didja catch that? They were chanting 'Ryan, Ryan...'

I think the boss was a little pissed that they forgotted him.

I can't listen right now...in a meeting...but I'm sure it will get a lot of TV play.

I think Romney is fucking up every day just to draw attention away from his previous day's fuckup.

196 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:40:17pm

re: #194 dragonfire1981

No they were actually chanting "Ryan, Romney" instead of the other way around. Apparently Mitt just loves to be No. 1 all the time.

Damn lip sync chants...hard to get them cued to work with the video.

197 dragonath  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:41:25pm

re: #195 darthstar

I thought it was funny how he taught them to chant the right way, then he immediately cuts them off.

198 makeitstop  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:42:24pm

re: #194 dragonfire1981

No they were actually chanting "Ryan, Romney" instead of the other way around. Apparently Mitt just loves to be No. 1 all the time.

I was only half-listening.

Still. I think there's a little resentment that the crowd likes the Running Mate more than the CEO... How long before they start sniping at each other? They seem to have already sniped at everyone else.

199 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:45:21pm

re: #198 makeitstop

I was only half-listening.

Still. I think there's a little resentment that the crowd likes the Running Mate more than the CEO... How long before they start sniping at each other? They seem to have already sniped at everyone else.

The backup quarterback is always more popular as well.

200 Targetpractice  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:45:34pm

re: #198 makeitstop

I was only half-listening.

Still. I think there's a little resentment that the crowd likes the Running Mate more than the CEO... How long before they start sniping at each other? They seem to have already sniped at everyone else.

I think it's safe to say that there's probably a lot of tension behind the scenes. Ryan got brought on more as a concession to the wingnut base than anything else. And he's been visibly miffed at being held back by campaign handlers. Won't be surprised, when the tell-all books come out starting next year, to hear that the two of them hated each others guts behind the curtains.

201 Lidane  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:46:48pm

re: #198 makeitstop

I was only half-listening.

Still. I think there's a little resentment that the crowd likes the Running Mate more than the CEO... How long before they start sniping at each other? They seem to have already sniped at everyone else.

Mitt's already starting to snipe, since he's had a few "I'm the one running for President, not him" type remarks here and there.

They can't be happy with the campaign or with each other right now. Ryan's off trying to keep his House seat and Mitt is doing more fundraising than actual retail campaigning these days. When's the last time they were even in the same place together aside from the RNC?

202 JamesWI  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:47:30pm

Here's a quote from Obama's UN speech:

The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam. Yet to be credible, those who condemn that slander must also condemn the hate we see when the image of Jesus Christ is desecrated, churches are destroyed, or the Holocaust is denied.

And here's a dumbass' interpretation of that quote:

203 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:47:37pm

re: #200 Targetpractice

I think it's safe to say that there's probably a lot of tension behind the scenes. Ryan got brought on more as a concession to the wingnut base than anything else. And he's been visibly miffed at being held back by campaign handlers. Won't be surprised, when the tell-all books come out starting next year, to hear that the two of them hated each others guts behind the curtains.

Selected as a result of political calculation. Treated like some sort of political widget, a commodity, an employee...

204 makeitstop  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:49:08pm

re: #203 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Selected as a result of political calculation. Treated like some sort of political widget, a commodity, an employee...

...the help.

205 wrenchwench  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:49:12pm

re: #201 Lidane

Mitt's already starting to snipe, since he's had a few "I'm the one running for President, not him" type remarks here and there.

They can't be happy with the campaign or with each other right now. Ryan's off trying to keep his House seat and Mitt is doing more fundraising than actual retail campaigning these days. When's the last time they were even in the same place together aside from the RNC?

Yup.

206 Killgore Trout  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:49:16pm

Stupid outrageous outrage was stupid and not very outrageous.

Mitt Romney Was Joking About Airplane Windows

The Los Angeles Times story that relayed Romney's airplane remark to the world was based off a pool report written by the New York Times's Ashley Parker. When we asked Parker this morning whether it seemed as if Romney made the mark in jest, she left no doubt. "Romney was joking," she e-mailed. Parker told us that while the pool report didn't explicitly indicate that Romney was joking, it was self-evident that he was. "The pool report provided the full transcript of his comments on Ann's plane scare," she said, "and it was clear from the context that he was not being serious."

207 Lidane  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:50:08pm

re: #206 Killgore Trout

I'm still wondering where the outrage was. All I saw was people pointing and laughing.

208 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:50:10pm

re: #206 Killgore Trout

Stupid outrageous outrage was stupid and not very outrageous.

Mitt Romney Was Joking About Airplane Windows

When in doubt and it's not flying - claim it was satire.

209 gwangung  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:50:26pm

re: #206 Killgore Trout

Stupid outrageous outrage was stupid and not very outrageous.

Mitt Romney Was Joking About Airplane Windows

He shouldn't give up his day job.

210 Charles Johnson  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:50:30pm

re: #206 Killgore Trout

Never said it was outrageous. Amusing, that's all.

And as a matter of fact, I updated the post with that link hours ago.

211 Targetpractice  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:51:37pm

re: #206 Killgore Trout

Stupid outrageous outrage was stupid and not very outrageous.

Mitt Romney Was Joking About Airplane Windows

It was a joke...one that fell completely flat. I've been told that even Ann didn't get a chuckle out of it.

212 dragonath  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:51:46pm

Ohio must be kind of a disappointment for the Republicans. They were probably counting on the state voting along the lines of Kentucky or Missouri in the future but the Romney campaign has damaged them among the working class.

213 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:51:54pm

re: #206 Killgore Trout

Stupid outrageous outrage was stupid and not very outrageous.

Mitt Romney Was Joking About Airplane Windows

When you're tanking in the polls, and you've just insulted nearly half of the country and said your job will not be to be concerned with them, it's probably not a good idea to tell a flat joke that makes you look like an idiot.

214 Lidane  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:52:17pm

re: #202 JamesWI

No one has ever accused Erick, Son of Erick of being all that bright.

215 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:53:04pm

re: #209 gwangung

He shouldn't give up his day job.

Deadpan outrageous statements worked for Steven Wright. Apparently not so well for Mitt.

216 Targetpractice  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:54:36pm

re: #215 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Deadpan outrageous statements worked for Steven Wright. Apparently not so well for Mitt.

Wright could pull it off. Hedberg could pull it off. Romney? Not a chance.

217 gwangung  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:54:56pm

re: #215 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Deadpan outrageous statements worked for Steven Wright. Apparently not so well for Mitt.

Speaking as a professional comedian (hey, we perform, they give us money), Romney's just about as good a comedian as he is a presidential candidate.

218 Killgore Trout  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:55:03pm

re: #213 darthstar

When you're tanking in the polls, and you've just insulted nearly half of the country and said your job will not be to be concerned with them, it's probably not a good idea to tell a flat joke that makes you look like an idiot.

The only people that look like idiots are the ones who thought he seriously wanted to passengers to open airplane windows at 30,000 feet. That's what you get when you believe the nonsense some idiot posts on Dkos. Just because it goes viral on twitter doesn't make it true.

219 Sionainn  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:55:51pm

re: #158 darthstar

California made the top 50! Whoo-hoo! Take that, Nevada!

Nevada always seems to be dead last in anything that is good and #1 in everything that is bad.

220 JamesWI  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:56:24pm

re: #218 Killgore Trout

The only people that look like idiots are the ones who thought he seriously wanted to passengers to open airplane windows at 30,000 feet. That's what you get when you believe the nonsense some idiot posts on Dkos. Just because it goes viral on twitter doesn't make it true.

Discussing the important issues of the world, as you always do.

221 Lidane  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:56:44pm

re: #218 Killgore Trout

No, the only ones who look like idiots are the ones who thought that the snark being directed at Mitt was serious.

Here's a clue-- it wasn't.

222 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:57:07pm

re: #220 JamesWI

Discussing the important issues of the world, as you always do.

He has a lot invested in umbrage futures.

223 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:57:14pm

re: #218 Killgore Trout

The only people that look like idiots are the ones who thought he seriously wanted to passengers to open airplane windows at 30,000 feet. That's what you get when you believe the nonsense some idiot posts on Dkos. Just because it goes viral on twitter doesn't make it true.

DKos is just mocking Romney like everyone else. It was an opening and they/we took it. Nobody seriously believed that Romney didn't understand about altitude. This wound is purely self-inflicted on his part. Much like most of the other wounds he's suffered in recent weeks.

224 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:57:20pm

I have to prepare my family's meal before the fast and get ready for the holiday. I must repent for all the "vulgar words" and "silly words" I have said during the past year.

I love you all and I forgive you for the downdings and I hope that you will forgive me!

225 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:58:16pm

re: #202 JamesWI

Here's a quote from Obama's UN speech:

And here's a dumbass' interpretation of that quote:

Wonder if he ever thought of taking reading/listening comprehension classes? Maybe he could hear/see better if he took his head out of his ass.

226 Kragar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:58:17pm

re: #218 Killgore Trout

The only people that look like idiots are the ones who thought he seriously wanted to passengers to open airplane windows at 30,000 feet. That's what you get when you believe the nonsense some idiot posts on Dkos. Just because it goes viral on twitter doesn't make it true.

If Mitt has taught us anything, it has been that taking a snippet of conversation out of context and turning it into a major news item is a perfectly valid campaign practice.

227 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:58:25pm

re: #224 Sheila Brovlofski

I have to prepare my family's meal before the fast and get ready for the holiday. I must repent for all the "vulgar words" and "silly words" I have said during the past year.

I love you all and I forgive you for the downdings and I hope that you will forgive me!

Can we get one last 'fuck' before you go?

228 Targetpractice  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:58:39pm

"You damned, humorless liberals! Of course it was a joke! Everybody understood it was a joke! The audience knew it was a joke!"

Youtube Video

Really?

229 A Mom Anon  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:58:46pm

re: #226 Kragar

Cold Fusion!!!

230 Charles Johnson  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:59:20pm

Here's what Romney said, verbatim:

“I appreciate the fact that she is on the ground, safe and sound. And I don’t think she knows just how worried some of us were,” Romney said. “When you have a fire in an aircraft, there’s no place to go, exactly, there’s no — and you can’t find any oxygen from outside the aircraft to get in the aircraft, because the windows don’t open. I don’t know why they don’t do that. It’s a real problem. So it’s very dangerous. And she was choking and rubbing her eyes. Fortunately, there was enough oxygen for the pilot and copilot to make a safe landing in Denver. But she’s safe and sound.”

Still comes off as a really stupid and weirdly inappropriate thing to say, even if it was a "joke."

231 Obdicut  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 1:59:48pm

re: #229 A Mom Anon

Cold Fusion!!!

Yeah, it is kind of funny. His comment on cold fusion shows a much more dangerous ignorance, and it's really clear in that context that he wasn't joking.

232 Kragar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 2:00:54pm

Barton: 'I Don't Think the President has Ever Read the Bible From Cover to Cover'

I've started asking people "have you read through the Bible from cover to cover?" And I'm talking people fifty, sixty, seventy years old who have been in the church fifty years who have never read the Bible from cover to cover.

Now if you haven't read the play book or the rule book, you're not going to know what's in it. Going back to a baseball analogy, that's like alright, I've got the bat, the glove, the ball but I don't care what the rules are, I don't know what the rules are, I don't want to read the rule book or the play book. You can't do that.

And so we really have a biblically illiterate group of folks now who claim Christianity and that's where I put the President; I don't think the President has ever read the Bible from cover to cover

Its not like reading it from cover to cover ever helped Barton understand any of it.

233 Charles Johnson  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 2:01:59pm

re: #231 Obdicut

Yeah, it is kind of funny. His comment on cold fusion shows a much more dangerous ignorance, and it's really clear in that context that he wasn't joking.

Yes, the comments on how the University of Utah "solved cold fusion" betray a person who's deeply incurious about science, which he pretty much has to be since he's a Republican. The cold fusion story was debunked very publicly many years ago.

234 erik_t  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 2:02:57pm

Call me crazy, but when I see a statement from someone discussing an actual fire aboard their wife's fucking airplane, my first impulse is not to assume that they're attempting to tell a joke.

235 JamesWI  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 2:04:04pm
236 makeitstop  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 2:04:09pm

re: #207 Lidane

I'm still wondering where the outrage was. All I saw was people pointing and laughing.

Laughing is the new Outrage.

237 Targetpractice  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 2:04:20pm

re: #228 Targetpractice

"You damned, humorless liberals! Of course it was a joke! Everybody understood it was a joke! The audience knew it was a joke!"

[Embedded content]

Really?

For those who haven't checked the video, that's Maddow showing him giving the "joke" in context. And you can hear for yourself, nobody in the audience or even Ann standing next to him found it particularly humorous. I think it might have something to do with joking about your own wife's close call with death, while she's standing right there, that tends to make people uncomfortable.

238 JamesWI  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 2:06:23pm

I know it's a little wrong, but I laughed:

239 mr.fusion  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 2:09:31pm

OT, but if you're in the mood to see firsthand what "unhinged" looks like, check out the comment section from the hotair post on the President's speech at the UN

Link

just a sampling from the first 30 or so comments

Can we please A) stop referring to him as a “nice guy” and B) stop pretending he’s anything but a muslim?

SouthernGent on September 25, 2012 at 2:14 PM

...

He’s telling us all who he is, and he isn’t holding back anymore. And yet libfree and like-minded deluded idiots will dutifully vote for this racist sociopath without regard to the sure destruction of our nation which will follow.

Right Mover on September 25, 2012 at 2:14 PM

...

I have GOT TO SAY this, I hate, yes I said hate, this man with every fiber in my body! How an American president can do/say such things to slam all we here hold dear to bow to the sub-humans as to not hurt their little evil feelings makes me sick!

bho and every person he has in his administration are the most evil crooked bunch I have seen since I have been paying attention to what is going on in our nation!

bho has GOT to get the boot, period!
L

letget on September 25, 2012 at 2:12 PM

...

It’s like Obama is Hitler and those who “slander the prophet of Islam” are his Jews. Yes, that is EXACTLY what it sounds like, because that’s EXACTLY what it is.

VorDaj on September 25, 2012 at 2:11 PM

...

“The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam”

Was Barry quoting Ahmadinejad?

shinty on September 25, 2012 at 2:11 PM

...

“The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam”

Was Barry quoting Ahmadinejad?

shinty on September 25, 2012 at 2:11 PM

...

Like me, the majority of Americans are Christian

Um, maybe not quite “like you,” Jugears.

Cicero43 on September 25, 2012 at 2:07 PM

This is not derp. This is lunacy

240 gwangung  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 2:12:15pm

re: #230 Charles Johnson

Here's what Romney said, verbatim:

Still comes off as a really stupid and weirdly inappropriate thing to say, even if it was a "joke."

Delivery is everything...and Romney was a big fat nothing here.

241 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 2:14:29pm

re: #21 Gus

UnSkewedPolls.com Favorite sites: American Thinker | Freedomist.com | DickMorris.com | Thomas Sowell | Walter E. Williams | Rush Limbaugh | Laura Ingraham

Sounds like anything but "unskewed"...

242 A Mom Anon  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 2:15:07pm

re: #240 gwangung

I still don't get how this even remotely comes off as a bad joke,let alone a joke at all. What am I missing?

243 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 2:16:44pm

re: #35 Charles Johnson

What a perfect example of current right wing magical thinking. They really do live in an alternate universe these days, and they seem to believe if they just WANT IT BADLY enough, they can actually change reality.

It's the most dysfunctional, crazy political movement I've ever seen.

RWNJs think that reality is the Matrix and they're all Neo.

244 engineer cat  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 2:18:31pm

re: #175 JamesWI

[Embedded content]

the election is coming

245 AntonSirius  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 2:18:49pm

re: #163 dragonath

Nice red jacket.

America, YUR TEARIN ME APART!!!!!!!

246 dragonfire1981  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 2:19:17pm

re: #243 Gert Fröbe

RWNJs think that reality is the Matrix and they're all Neo.

I would say more Morpheus than Neo.

247 Digital Display  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 2:20:04pm

re: #243 Gert Fröbe

RWNJs think that reality is the Matrix and they're all Neo.

Oh..So that's why there is a blue pill and red pill.

248 dragonath  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 2:20:05pm

This picture is from Sullivan's blog:

[Link: dailydish.typepad.com...]

It's something that I always suspected- the "White Working Class" vote is skewed heavily by the South and the Romney campaign is making false assumptions about this voting bloc.

249 gwangung  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 2:21:41pm

re: #242 A Mom Anon

I still don't get how this even remotely comes off as a bad joke,let alone a joke at all. What am I missing?

Absolutely nothing.

If we take them at their word, Romney just appears to be so incompetent that we can't tell if he's serious or if he's joking when when he supposedly makes a joke. Not a leadership trait, doncha think? (And there's no way to spin this to make it look good for him).

250 engineer cat  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 2:23:59pm

Mitt Romney Was Joking About Airplane Windows

of course he was joking, i thought he was joking as soon as i saw the video

but he doesn't deserve one scintilla of defense since he has repeatedly, shamelessly twisted every possible word to come out of obama's mouth

so he heartily deserves for everybody to think he was serious and being an idiot

251 Decatur Deb  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 2:24:58pm

As an engineering proposal, the openable windows bit would make Romney look stupid. As humour, it makes him look very, very stupid.

252 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 2:28:18pm

re: #208 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

When in doubt and it's not flying - claim it was satire.

Hey, if Limbaugh can pull that shit, so can Mitt, right?

253 Digital Display  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 2:29:47pm

re: #251 Decatur Deb

As an engineering proposal, the openable windows bit would make Romney look stupid. As humour, it makes him look very, very stupid.

One of the most dangerous fires are on-board Submarines. I for the life of me can't figure out why Subs don't have windows that open. All that water would surely put the fire out.
/

254 ReamWorks SKG  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 2:30:40pm

About Romney's Joke

[Link: nymag.com...]

His wife's airplane had an electrical fire and he's making jokes about it! This is OUTRAGEOUS!

It's as bad as calling the murder of a U.S. Envoy a "bump in the road." Where is all the outrage over this? She could have died!?

255 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 2:38:23pm

Geek Humor Break

If every person on Earth aimed a laser pointer at the Moon at the same time, would it change color?

[Link: what-if.xkcd.com...]

256 RadicalModerate  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 2:41:38pm

Keep in mind, if the numbers don't go in the Republicans' favor, they can always fall back on their old tried-and-true methods.

Republican Staffers Charged With 36 Counts of Election Fraud

It turns out that the Republican Party’s obsession with voter fraud may be yet another case of projection. Four former staffers for resigned House Rep. Thaddeus McCotter have been charged with 36 counts of misdemeanor and felony election fraud. Yesterday one of those staffers, Lorianne O’Brady, pled not guilty to five misdemeanor counts of submitting fraudulent signatures on a ballot petition. O’Brady is the last of the four staffers to be arraigned; the other three, Don Yowchuang, Mary Melissa Turnbull, and Paul Seewald, were arraigned on similar charges on August 10th.

257 makeitstop  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 2:54:52pm

re: #255 William Barnett-Lewis

Geek Humor Break

If every person on Earth aimed a laser pointer at the Moon at the same time, would it change color?

[Link: what-if.xkcd.com...]

I love that guy.

My wife The Geek (no slam on my wife, she'll tell you she's a geek) has exchanged emails with him, says he's a nice dude.


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