And Now, Paul Ryan vs. the Stench

A scent that can’t be washed away
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Paul Ryan has a problem, and he calls it “The Stench.”

Paul Ryan has gone rogue. He is unleashed, unchained, off the hook.

“I hate to say this, but if Ryan wants to run for national office again, he’ll probably have to wash the stench of Romney off of him,” Craig Robinson, a former political director of the Republican Party of Iowa, told The New York Times on Sunday.

Coming from a resident of Iowa, a state where people are polite even to soybeans, this was a powerful condemnation of the Republican nominee.

Though Ryan had already decided to distance himself from the floundering Romney campaign, he now feels totally uninhibited. Reportedly, he has been marching around his campaign bus, saying things like, “If Stench calls, take a message” and “Tell Stench I’m having finger sandwiches with Peggy Noonan and will text him later.”

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602 comments
1 erik_t  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 7:37:21pm

10pm popcorn is okay, right guys?

Right?

2 Targetpractice  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 7:37:51pm

You kinda knew it was gonna happen sooner or later. He's running for reelection at the same time he's running with Willard, and he's apparently decided that being competitive for his seat is more important than being led around by the nose by Romney campaign handlers.

3 Lidane  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 7:39:48pm

So basically, Paul Ryan has gone Galt.

Romney HQ should have seen this coming.

4 erik_t  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 7:39:58pm

re: #2 Targetpractice

Honestly, I am surprised. I didn't think Dreamboat had enough courage to flaunt the establishment. At least, I didn't think he had the courage to do it Sarah-style. This cannot bode well for his future prospects; circular firing squads are to be conducted in a mournful and circumspect way in about February.

5 Mattand  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 7:40:00pm

The riff on page 2 about PowerPoint is both hilarious and spot on.

God, how I hate that program...

6 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 7:40:52pm

re: #5 Mattand

The riff on page 2 about PowerPoint is both hilarious and spot on.

God, how I hate that program...

My wife saw this article this morning and read me the powerpoint part...that was pretty funny.

7 jamesfirecat  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 7:41:15pm

re: #4 erik_t

Honestly, I am surprised. I didn't think Dreamboat had enough courage to flaunt the establishment. At least, I didn't think he had the courage to do it Sarah-style. This cannot bode well for his future prospects; circular firing squads are to be conducted in a mournful and circumspect way in about February.

They're going to wait till February? I expect them to be handing out the cigarettes and blind folds come November 5th!

8 Targetpractice  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 7:41:24pm

re: #4 erik_t

Honestly, I am surprised. I didn't think Dreamboat had enough courage to flaunt the establishment. At least, I didn't think he had the courage to do it Sarah-style. This cannot bode well for his future prospects; circular firing squads are to be conducted in a mournful and circumspect way in about February.

I think he's putting his money on the response to Romney defeat on Election Day to be a further push to the right and for the establishment to lose even more power than it already has. In which case, putting as much distance between himself and Willard as possible is the only choice.

9 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 7:41:34pm

Did somebody say Ryan was an opportunist?
He jumped off of the Romney train with a swiftness!

10 jaunte  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 7:41:55pm
11 Targetpractice  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 7:42:12pm

re: #9 Reverend Mother Ramallo

Did somebody say Ryan was an opportunist?
He jumped off of the Romney train with a swiftness!

I've seen rats slower to leave a sinking ship.

12 Charles Johnson  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 7:42:36pm

I don't know if this is a parody, but it's too hilarious to check.

13 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 7:42:54pm

Sorry, but that article reads like some sort of fever nightmare.

14 Mattand  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 7:43:06pm

re: #4 erik_t

Honestly, I am surprised. I didn't think Dreamboat had enough courage to flaunt the establishment. At least, I didn't think he had the courage to do it Sarah-style. This cannot bode well for his future prospects; circular firing squads are to be conducted in a mournful and circumspect way in about February.

I have to admit, I was shocked when I read this. You'd think that the GOP would have learned their lesson with Sarah Palin. Assuming it's true, it would seem to be an indication that Romney's in worse shape than I thought.

Also, how can Ryan campaign for both his House seat and Romney? Easy answer is you can't do both, I guess.

15 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 7:43:13pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

I don't know if this is a parody, but it's too hilarious to check.

Has to be.

16 erik_t  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 7:43:17pm

re: #8 Targetpractice

I think he's putting his money on the response to Romney defeat on Election Day to be a further push to the right and for the establishment to lose even more power than it already has. In which case, putting as much distance between himself and Willard as possible is the only choice.

But that was the response to McCain losing. Did Palin really do herself any favors by going rogue?

17 jamesfirecat  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 7:44:18pm

re: #13 Dark_Falcon

Sorry, but that article reads like some sort of fever nightmare.

Get some bed rest, put a cold bag of ice on your head, and wake up screaming when you realize this is what has become of your political party.

18 Targetpractice  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 7:44:43pm

re: #16 erik_t

But that was the response to McCain losing. Did Palin really do herself any favors by going rogue?

Sure, for 'bout two years. Til it got pretty obvious she was not really looking to run for higher office and was just stringing the rubes along. Hell, there's still a dedicated following who's sure she's just saving up for a '16 run.

19 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 7:45:31pm

re: #16 erik_t

But that was the response to McCain losing. Did Palin really do herself any favors by going rogue?

If making the greatest amount of money in the shortest period of time counts, then, absolutely.

20 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 7:45:35pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

I don't know if this is a parody, but it's too hilarious to check.

About the author:

Roger Simon is the Chief Political Columnist of Politico. He grew up on the South Side of Chicago where politics was a contact sport.

At the Chicago Sun-Times, where he wrote a column four times per week, Simon was taught that the only way for a journalist to look upon a politician was down. He now fights against that impulse daily.

Simon also has been a columnist for the Baltimore Sun, a White House correspondent for the Chicago Tribune and the political editor of U.S. News World Report. His column is syndicated to newspapers around the country. He has written columns from Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Egypt, Israel and South Africa. Simon is a New York Times best-selling author. He has won more than three dozen first-place awards and is the only person to win twice the American Society of Newspaper Editors Distinguished Writing Award for Commentary.

Not exactly a humorist.

21 dragonath  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 7:46:09pm

Haha, this reads like an Onion article.

But! This makes Ryan look like even more of an ass than Romney, which I didn't think was possible.

22 Obdicut  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 7:46:58pm

Ryan and Romney seemed like a bit of an odd couple from the start. Ryan is so purely government.

23 erik_t  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 7:47:03pm

re: #18 Targetpractice

Sure, for 'bout two years. Til it got pretty obvious she was not really looking to run for higher office and was just stringing the rubes along. Hell, there's still a dedicated following who's sure she's just saving up for a '16 run.

She did herself favors among the base. I think you'd be hard-pressed to argue that she made herself more viable in a general election.

24 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 7:47:12pm

re: #18 Targetpractice

Sure, for 'bout two years. Til it got pretty obvious she was not really looking to run for higher office and was just stringing the rubes along. Hell, there's still a dedicated following who's sure she's just saving up for a '16 run.

She'll be back in 2016 if she can keep people interested in her until 2014. She knows there's good money to be made in being an actor on the Republican stage...she also knows she'll never hold elected office again, but she doesn't care about that. She's a reality star now.

25 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 7:47:34pm

re: #5 Mattand

The riff on page 2 about PowerPoint is both hilarious and spot on.

God, how I hate that program...

Powerpoint is the scripture of Satan...

26 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 7:47:56pm

re: #17 jamesfirecat

Get some bed rest, put a cold bag of ice on your head, and wake up screaming when you realize this is what has become of your political party.

I can't afford to wake up screaming, I've got an interview tomorrow.

27 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 7:49:54pm

re: #26 Dark_Falcon

I can't afford to wake up screaming, I've got an interview tomorrow.

Congrats! Get some rest. Go for a good long walk in the morning and get your blood circulating. Eat a small breakfast. Take a big shit (you don't want to be holding in farts during an interview). And whatever you do, don't tell them how you feel about politics.

Good luck. Seriously. Landing on your feet is the best revenge when your previous boss has screwed you.

28 Mattand  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 7:49:58pm

Romney/Ryan 2012: Putting the "fun" in "dysfunction".

29 Targetpractice  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 7:49:59pm

OT, but related:

Seems another Republican got caught behind closed doors telling the truth:

So Long, Tommy

Already down almost 10 points in the PollTracker Average, Tommy Thompson has now shown up in a video from a Tea Party meeting in June bragging that who better than him to “do away with the Medicare and Medicaid”.

30 JamesWI  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 7:50:29pm
31 Killgore Trout  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 7:51:48pm

Louie CK and David Lynch

32 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 7:51:54pm
33 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 7:51:57pm

re: #26 Dark_Falcon

I can't afford to wake up screaming, I've got an interview tomorrow.

Seriously, then, I will wish you well, DF. Get yourself some good rest and try to not read the news or LGF until after the interview is over. That should help keep you feeling positive and cheerful.

Then you can get back to saving money to go back to school ;)

34 jamesfirecat  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 7:52:46pm

On "last word" right now, I just discovered proof that something good is coming out of the Simpsons still being on the air... the Simpsons have got got Rupert Murdoch paying to run an anti voter id add...

35 jaunte  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 7:53:45pm

Ryan's Plan B, via NYT:

A Congressional official with ties to the Ryan camp said the congressman, who is also running for re-election, has a Plan B: Return to Congress, use his positions on both the Budget and the Ways and Means Committees to seize a prominent role in a sweeping overhaul of the tax code, and use that as a springboard back into presidential politics on his own record.

If the Republican ticket loses in November, the rush by Mr. Ryan and other 2016 hopefuls to position themselves for the Iowa caucuses “is going to look like Best Buy the night after Thanksgiving,” said Craig Robinson, a former political director of the Republican Party of Iowa. “I hate to say this, but if Ryan wants to run for national office again, he’ll probably have to wash the stench of Romney off of him.”

Richard A. Oppel Jr. contributed reporting from Orlando, Fla., and Janesville, Wis.
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

36 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 7:53:58pm

re: #29 Targetpractice

OT, but related:

Seems another Republican got caught behind closed doors telling the truth:

So Long, Tommy

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Heh. Voted for him in the primary knowing he'd be easiest for Tammy to beat. The flip side is that he's too incompetent to do too much damage if he wins and too old to run for re-election. So long Corrupt Tommy!

37 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 7:54:05pm

re: #27 darthstar

Congrats! Get some rest. Go for a good long walk in the morning and get your blood circulating. Eat a small breakfast. Take a big shit (you don't want to be holding in farts during an interview). And whatever you do, don't tell them how you feel about politics.

Good luck. Seriously. Landing on your feet is the best revenge when your previous boss has screwed you.

I don't say word one about politics in an interview. And while I don't feel my previous employer screwed me, I want to get my life on a better track than it was there. Tomorrow I'm working towards that goal.

38 Mattand  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 7:54:56pm

I have to wonder at this point: would any of the Clown Car passengers have done any better than Romney at this point?

Take Gingrich and Santorum, for example. Gingrich is much sleazier, and Santorum is this close to bombing an abortion clinic, but both are seasoned politicians.

Their message probably would have been batshit crazy, but I'm wondering if they would have run a tighter ship.

39 SteveMcG  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 7:55:55pm

Run a tighter ship?? Those guys couldn't row a boat for more than 1 week in a row.

40 jaunte  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 7:56:17pm

re: #38 Mattand

Santorum's 31% would have been much more satisfied with their candidate.

41 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 7:56:18pm

re: #37 Dark_Falcon

I don't say word one about politics in an interview. And while I don't feel my previous employer screwed me, I want to get my life on a better track than it was there. Tomorrow I'm working towards that goal.

Good. I hope you make more money too. (that's always a good thing) Then you can write Mitt Romney a fat check to thank him for saving the economy and making your new job possible.

42 dragonath  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 7:57:46pm

The Christie vs Santorum vs Ryan vs Paul debates should be a lot of fun next time around

43 Obdicut  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 7:57:46pm

re: #40 jaunte

Santorum's 31% would have been much more satisfied with their candidate.

He really is obviously the appropriate candidate for this election. Either him or Cain.

44 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 7:58:34pm

My money's on "second-rate parody", but it's very hard to tell because everything about the real Romney campaign so far has been exactly consistent with an un-funny, second-rate parody of a genuine Republican campaign.

45 Targetpractice  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 7:58:37pm

re: #38 Mattand

I have to wonder at this point: would any of the Clown Car passengers have done any better than Romney at this point?

Take Gingrich and Santorum, for example. Gingrich is much sleazier, and Santorum is this close to bombing an abortion clinic, but both are seasoned politicians.

Their message probably would have been batshit crazy, but I'm wondering if they would have run a tighter ship.

Thing is, I think Newt might have been able to better stay on message. Yeah, he's a sleazebag, but at the same time, the guy knows how to work an audience. It would just be a question of whether he could keep his private indiscretions from becoming the focus of the press.

46 bratwurst  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 7:59:06pm

re: #42 dragonath

The Christie vs Santorum vs Ryan vs Paul debates should be a lot of fun next time around

The first one will be about six months from right now!

(only a SLIGHT exaggeration)

47 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 7:59:34pm

Okay, this is just wrong...Please, reporters, don't ask Mitt Romney about 'sport'...it's obvious it makes his butt pucker with fear. Listen to his forced laughter. So sad.

48 Obdicut  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:00:49pm

re: #46 bratwurst

The first one will be about six months from right now!

(only a SLIGHT exaggeration)

Christie seems pretty eager for the national stage.

49 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:01:01pm

re: #47 darthstar

Okay, this is just wrong...Please, reporters, don't ask Mitt Romney about 'sport'...it's obvious it makes his butt pucker with fear. Listen to his forced laughter. So sad.

Transcript for those who can't stand to watch the nervous fucker:

Interviewer: What would you do about those referees in the NFL? Would you order them back to work?

Romney: I'd sure like to see some experienced referees, with NFL experience, come back out to the NFL playing fields.

Interviewer: Paul Ryan called those refs out today. Are you glad that he did that?

Romney: [laughing] That's just fine. Paul was very angry that the Green Bay Packers, he believes, won, and the referees took it away from them.

Yes, out to the NFL playing fields...where the players graze.

50 bratwurst  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:02:13pm

re: #48 Obdicut

Christie seems pretty eager for the national stage.

How would his self-congratulatory keynote speech at the RNC that barely even mentioned Romney give you THAT idea? /

51 Targetpractice  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:02:16pm

re: #49 darthstar

Transcript for those who can't stand to watch the nervous fucker:

Yes, out to the NFL playing fields...where the players graze.

He really could not better personify the rich prick who doesn't venture off the country club grounds unless it's to scold The Help.

52 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:02:52pm

re: #51 Targetpractice

He really could not better personify the rich prick who doesn't venture off the country club grounds unless it's to scold The Help.

I love the reporter's reaction at the end..."Aw, fuck it. I give up."

53 sauceruney  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:03:58pm

Ryan had a stench long before he was even picked. All Mitt has done is bring it to his attention in a way that he can't stop smelling it.

54 Mattand  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:04:11pm

re: #48 Obdicut

Christie seems pretty eager for the national stage.

Yeah, our employment is 9.9% here and he's running around Iowa, kissing ass. I wonder why?

55 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:04:55pm

re: #54 Mattand

Yeah, our employment is 9.9% here and he's running around Iowa, kissing ass. I wonder why?

Building a war chest and figuring out how to skim money off of it.

56 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:06:01pm

re: #47 darthstar

Okay, this is just wrong...Please, reporters, don't ask Mitt Romney about 'sport'...it's obvious it makes his butt pucker with fear. Listen to his forced laughter. So sad.

I don't even like foosball (Browns), and thought that was pathetic.
He's like a cartoon rich guy...I shall call him Mitt 'Bottom-Tooth' Romney.

57 Mattand  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:06:21pm

re: #49 darthstar

Transcript for those who can't stand to watch the nervous fucker:

Yes, out to the NFL playing fields...where the players graze.

Christ, it's like he's channeling Mr. Burns.

58 Mattand  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:08:30pm

re: #55 darthstar

Building a war chest and figuring out how to skim money off of it.

For all his faults, I don't get the impression Christie would embezzle anything. Still, the fact he can run around IA laying POTUS groundwork while the Jersey "Comeback" has yet to arrive, is incredibly galling.

59 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:08:41pm
60 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:12:07pm
61 Targetpractice  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:13:02pm

Just realized who Romney makes me think of, Duke Phillips from The Critic when he was running for president:

62 ozbloke  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:14:57pm

Posted in two dead threads, having trouble keeping up apparently.

Russian truck driver miraculously escapes head-on collision

63 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:17:54pm

re: #61 Targetpractice

Just realized who Romney makes me think of, Duke Phillips from The Critic when he was running for president:

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I don't agree, but I'm going to upding for the very funny clip.

64 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:18:20pm
65 Majacita  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:18:24pm

Good Luck DF. Hope the interview goes well.

I just got through reading the Princeton Election Consortium and his numbers are even more optimistic than Nate Silvers. He's got a great track record, but I haven't been reading him very long. I'm getting a little obsessive, checking polls everyday. Are there any others I can read instead of checking the same ones?

66 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:19:17pm

DF...Now you're down-dinging a conservative writer like Douthat?

67 jamesfirecat  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:19:24pm

re: #56 Reverend Mother Ramallo

I don't even like foosball (Browns), and thought that was pathetic.
He's like a cartoon rich guy...I shall call him Mitt 'Bottom-Tooth' Romney.

Bottom Tooth?

68 erik_t  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:19:53pm

re: #64 darthstar

Ha! Yes, yes, I was.
Image: 479915_528471827182275_1569848243_n.jpg

Good news, everyone! You're now reading this in my voice.

69 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:20:29pm

re: #67 jamesfirecat

Bottom Tooth?

re: #59 Reverend Mother Ramallo

James William Bottomtooth

70 jamesfirecat  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:20:34pm

re: #57 Mattand

Christ, it's like he's channeling Mr. Burns.

Yes, I'd like to send this letter to the Prussian consulate in Siam by aeromail. Am I too late for the 4:30 autogyro?

71 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:21:12pm

re: #47 darthstar

Okay, this is just wrong...Please, reporters, don't ask Mitt Romney about 'sport'...it's obvious it makes his butt pucker with fear. Listen to his forced laughter. So sad.

Hey, look! here's an instance where I might actually have something in common with Mitt Romney. I suspect that he doesn't actually have the slightest idea what he's being asked about, and that he doesn't follow sports.

Neither do I! So, hey Mitt, let's see if we can figure out how to respond. How does this sound?

"To tell you the truth, I haven't really been following the the details, and so I'm not really qualified to offer an opinion on the matter. I'd better leave it to people who know what they're talking about."

Ha ha! Just kidding.

72 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:21:32pm

re: #60 darthstar

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Poor Russ. He has this fantasy that he's this generation's Buckley but every time Brooks posts a column it puts that foolishness to bed for another week. Ah, well, at least he isn't as bad as the Jonah over at National Racists Online.

73 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:21:36pm

re: #64 darthstar

Ha! Yes, yes, I was.
Image: 479915_528471827182275_1569848243_n.jpg

But when I do, it I sound more like Droopy Dog.

74 Obdicut  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:22:29pm

re: #72 William Barnett-Lewis

Poor Russ. He has this fantasy that he's this generation's Buckley but every time Brooks posts a column it puts that foolishness to bed for another week. Ah, well, at least he isn't as bad as the Jonah over at National Racists Online.

Even Buckley wasn't really his generation's Buckley; there's some rose colored glasses in effect.

75 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:23:01pm
76 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:25:36pm

re: #74 Obdicut

Even Buckley wasn't really his generation's Buckley; there's some rose colored glasses in effect.

To a certain extent, but Buckley could turn a phrase like few others. I always enjoyed that aspect of him even when it I was laughing my ass off at how bad the argument really was.

77 Gus  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:26:00pm
78 jaunte  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:26:18pm

Creepy.

A debate over the district’s policy erupted after the mother of two girls attending Springtown High School noticed bruises left behind by the paddling doled out by Assistant Principal Kirt Shaw.

"I did give him permission to swat her,” said Cathi Watts, whose 16-year-old daughter, Jada, suffered bruises on her backside that were visible for more than a week. “I didn't give him permission to bruise her.”

79 Gus  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:26:39pm

re: #78 jaunte

Creepy.

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Too late! //

80 Gus  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:27:34pm

Yes because if you don't do things right you will be whipped and feel pain.

81 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:28:18pm

re: #78 jaunte

I went to a baptist high school in the 9th grade...they used swats as punishment...hurt like hell.

82 Mattand  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:28:42pm

re: #78 jaunte

Creepy.

"I did give him permission to swat her,” said Cathi Watts, whose 16-year-old daughter, Jada, suffered bruises on her backside that were visible for more than a week. “I didn't give him permission to bruise her.”

Dear Ms. Watts:

WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU THINK WAS GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN YOU OKAYED SOMEONE TO ASSAULT YOUR CHILD?????

Idiot.

83 jaunte  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:29:26pm

re: #80 Gus

In my Texas junior high, if one of the coaches grabbed your head and your hair stuck up higher than his fingers, you got a swat.

84 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:30:53pm

re: #77 Gus

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re: #78 jaunte

I've lived in Texas all my life, went through Texas public schools in the 70s and 80s, and I was never spanked. And can't begin to understand how corporal punishment is still legal.

85 Obdicut  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:31:05pm

re: #82 Mattand

Paddling 16 year old girls on the ass is not being done as punishment, it's being done because a perv is getting off on it.

Department of the Obvious, please go tell Texas to stop being, well, Texas.

86 JamesWI  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:31:29pm

#MoviesWithTheStench is now trending on Twitter. The name is self-explanatory.

87 Mattand  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:31:29pm

re: #83 jaunte

In my Texas junior high, if one of the coaches grabbed your head and your hair stuck up higher than his fingers, you got a swat.

88 Gus  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:32:18pm

re: #84 Our Precious Bodily Fluids

re: #78 jaunte

I've lived in Texas all my life, went through Texas public schools in the 70s and 80s, and I was never spanked. And can't begin to understand how corporal punishment is still legal.

It's probably for their select schools if you know what I mean. Was also thinking that I doubt many if any Texas public school teacher would want to attempt that.

89 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:32:48pm

re: #77 Gus

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Although in a change from earlier policy a parent has to request the 'swat' in writing.

In the case being cited, the student accepted it and then her mother was called to give verbal permission.

Not approval, just noting facts.

90 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:32:55pm

Now trending on twitter: #MoviesWithTheStench




91 aagcobb  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:33:45pm

re: #16 erik_t

But that was the response to McCain losing. Did Palin really do herself any favors by going rogue?

Yes, she made a whole lotta money.

92 Gus  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:34:40pm

re: #85 Obdicut

Paddling 16 year old girls on the ass is not being done as punishment, it's being done because a perv is getting off on it.

Department of the Obvious, please go tell Texas to stop being, well, Texas.

That could be true with either gender.

93 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:35:51pm

re: #83 jaunte

In my Texas junior high, if one of the coaches grabbed your head and your hair stuck up higher than his fingers, you got a swat.

In my Texas junior high, almost all of the science and history teachers were named "Coach ______"

And they all wore those weird polyester stretch pants that only the coaches wore. You know what I'm talking about.

94 Mattand  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:36:28pm

re: #89 Dark_Falcon

Although in a change from earlier policy a parent has to request the 'swat' in writing.

In the case being cited, the student accepted it and then her mother was called to give verbal permission.

Not approval, just noting facts.

LOL, good to know that school district has an orderly system for their 17th century dumb-fuckery.

Texas or not, what parent in their right mind tells an adult "You have my okay to hurt my child?"

95 dragonath  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:38:28pm

re: #87 Mattand

"Moon Pie, what a time to be alive..."

96 Obdicut  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:38:31pm

re: #92 Gus

That could be true with either gender.

Yeah, the example given was a girl, so I was referring to that. But obviously, there's lots of people who get off on violence against kids, and giving them this cover is really stupid.

97 freetoken  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:38:42pm

re: #90 darthstar

Now trending on twitter: #MoviesWithTheStench

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It's moving on up, too.

The classic would be: Citizen Stench

98 Gus  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:39:30pm

re: #96 Obdicut

Yeah, the example given was a girl, so I was referring to that. But obviously, there's lots of people who get off on violence against kids, and giving them this cover is really stupid.

Hitting children is like raising them to be slaves. That is it can get pretty bad sometimes. Children being whipped.

99 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:39:38pm

Heh.
Family Guy is on Adult Swim, and they're showing Conway Twitty.
He looks constipated when he sings.
Just...just thought I'd throw that out there...

100 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:39:48pm

re: #83 jaunte

In my Texas junior high, if one of the coaches grabbed your head and your hair stuck up higher than his fingers, you got a swat.

My son would be authorized to knock his balls out of his mouth if that were done to him. Just sayin' ...

101 jaunte  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:40:08pm

re: #87 Mattand

Wearin' an onion on your belt, that's a paddlin'

102 Mattand  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:40:30pm

re: #101 jaunte

Wearin' an onion on your belt, that's a paddlin'

But it was the style at the time!!!

103 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:41:17pm

re: #97 freetoken

It's moving on up, too.

The classic would be: Citizen Stench

My contribution:

104 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:42:19pm

re: #100 William Barnett-Lewis

My son would be authorized to knock his balls out of his mouth if that were done to him. Just sayin' ...

It would not come to that. They had to call you before and now they have to get it in writing. You'd say "Hell, No!" and that would bar then from using corporal punishment.

105 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:42:45pm

Whipping children makes kids angry,mean, and sneaky. Just the opposite effect one aims for with corporal punishment.

Also, I wish a mutha fucka would hit one of my kids...

106 SteveMcG  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:42:45pm

I'm reading a book about the years in between WWI and WWII. The description of Herbert Hoover fits Mitt Romney to a T.

107 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:43:15pm

re: #88 Gus

It's probably for their select schools if you know what I mean. Was also thinking that I doubt many if any Texas public school teacher would want to attempt that.

I may have given the wrong impression - corporal punishment was absolutely rampant at my school. Late to school enough times, late to individual classes enough times, didn't turn in a homework assignment... almost any transgression was punishable by a beating from an adult that if it had been inflicted on another adult would have resulted in at least a misdemeanor conviction and a jail sentence.

108 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:43:47pm

re: #98 Gus

Hitting children is like raising them to be slaves. That is it can get pretty bad sometimes. Children being whipped.

It was needed in my case, more than once. Sometimes my father smacking me was the only way to get it through my thick skull to stop doing a certain thing.

109 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:43:57pm

Good to see Charles having fun with the stench on twitter.

110 dragonath  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:44:10pm

re: #99 Reverend Mother Ramallo

Heh.
Family Guy is on Adult Swim, and they're showing Conway Twitty.
He looks constipated when he sings.
Just...just thought I'd throw that out there...

Conway Twitty meets... the Residents!

111 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:44:26pm

re: #108 Dark_Falcon

It was needed in my case, more than once. Sometimes my father smacking me was the only way to get it through my thick skull to stop doing a certain thing.

Not right now, dad! Can't you see I'm masturbating!

112 moderatelyradicalliberal  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:44:39pm

R-Money is a terrible candidate, but he is going to be unfairly blamed for the upcoming GOP losses. Half the reason he sucks is because reciting GOP talking points in public makes him sound crazy, stupid and mean. But it's the GOP being filled with crazy, stupid and mean people who's beliefs and ideas reflect their being crazy, stupid and mean that's the real problem. Being tied to Paul Ryan and his "budget" has hurt R-Money, not the other way around. Signing on to that bullshit caused him to lose all pretense of moving to the center and being a moderate. Which is exactly why the Obama campaign wanted him to pick Paul Ryan for VP.

And speaking of GOP talking points, this video of Tommy Thompson talking like a teabagger wingnut about Medicare and Medicaid will probably cost him a Senate seat in Wisconsin.

[Link: politicalwire.com...]

"Who better than me, who's already finished one of the entitlement programs, to come up with programs to do away with Medicaid and Medicare?"

113 aagcobb  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:44:57pm

re: #96 Obdicut

Yeah, the example given was a girl, so I was referring to that. But obviously, there's lots of people who get off on violence against kids, and giving them this cover is really stupid.

When my wife was a kid, she had a teacher who lined up most of the boys in his class to be spanked every day. I don't understand how that could be allowed, even 35 years ago.

114 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:45:13pm

re: #106 SteveMcG

I'm reading a book about the years in between WWI and WWII. The description of Herbert Hoover fits Mitt Romney to a T.

He's not like Hoover. Hoover was an engineer, a very different skill set than venture capitalist and one that appeals to a different personality.

115 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:45:41pm

re: #111 darthstar

That ain't funny.

116 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:46:00pm

re: #108 Dark_Falcon

It was needed in my case, more than once. Sometimes my father smacking me was the only way to get it through my thick skull to stop doing a certain thing.

The possibility of going blind didn't scare you enough?

[well, could I at least do it until I need glasses?]

117 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:46:26pm

re: #111 darthstar

Not right now, dad! Can't you see I'm masturbating!

GMTA

118 moderatelyradicalliberal  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:46:45pm

re: #94 Mattand

LOL, good to know that school district has an orderly system for their 17th century dumb-fuckery.

Texas or not, what parent in their right mind tells an adult "You have my okay to hurt my child?"

What parent in their right mind thinks spankings are still effective punishments for teenagers? I would have gladly taken a spanking over being grounded or loss of phone privileges.

119 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:46:49pm

re: #115 Dark_Falcon

That ain't funny.

Nobody refers to 'a certain thing' as 'a certain thing' unless they're talking about a certain thing.

120 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:47:33pm

re: #104 Dark_Falcon

It would not come to that. They had to call you before and now they have to get it in writing. You'd say "Hell, No!" and that would bar then from using corporal punishment.

In that current Texas system, that's true DF. He was talking about a "bad old day's" situation which is what I responded to. My son would know he was allowed & expected to be able to defend himself, by any & all necessary means, against an illegitimate assault.

121 jaunte  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:47:33pm

re: #113 aagcobb

We had a few guys who wanted to keep their hair long, so they just decided to take the hit every day.

122 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:47:50pm

Can we all agree that its still OK for use to use a paddle on a troll?

//

123 freetoken  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:48:00pm

re: #112 moderatelyradicalliberal

R-Money is a terrible candidate, but he is going to be unfairly blamed for the upcoming GOP losses.

He made his bed, and now he is lying in it.

124 SteveMcG  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:48:19pm

He was like Hoover in the way that he related with people, (awkwardly) and the way he believed that government intervention in the depression was bad for your moral character, and that the economy was about to turn the corner any day anyway. He was also staunchly anti deficit.

125 dragonath  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:48:35pm

re: #112 moderatelyradicalliberal

And speaking of GOP talking points, this video of Tommy Thompson talking like a teabagger wingnut about Medicare and Medicaid will probably cost him a Senate seat in Wisconsin.

[Link: politicalwire.com...]

What was the first entitlement program he was talking about? Besides Medicare.

Anyway- this guy was director of Health and Human Services under Bush.

126 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:49:35pm

re: #119 darthstar

Nobody refers to 'a certain thing' as 'a certain thing' unless they're talking about a certain thing.

I'm in a hole on this point, so I'm going to shut up and stop digging.

127 moderatelyradicalliberal  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:49:54pm

re: #123 freetoken

He made his bed, and now he is lying in it.

Oh, I don't feel sorry for him. I'm just saying that the usual excuse that GOPers use for losing (candidate wasn't conservative enough) will be total bullshit. R-Money went severely conservative for the sake of the GOP base and that will be what costs him the election.

128 recusancy  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:50:25pm

re: #125 dragonath

What was the first entitlement program he was talking about? Besides Medicare.

Anyway- this guy was director of Health and Human Services under Bush.

Medicaid

129 moderatelyradicalliberal  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:50:54pm

re: #125 dragonath

What was the first entitlement program he was talking about? Besides Medicare.

Anyway- this guy was director of Health and Human Services under Bush.

I don't know. Maybe he was talking about something he did as governor.

130 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:51:23pm

re: #126 Dark_Falcon

I'm in a hole on this point, so I'm going to shut up and stop digging.

You're a good sport, sometimes. That's good.

131 freetoken  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:51:34pm

I see that Corsi and WND are pushing yet another Obama conspiracy:


1979 ARTICLE TIES 'OBAMA'S REAL FATHER' TO SAUDI FINANCIER?

They never stop.

And as long as people keep sending them money, they have no incentive to stop.

132 moderatelyradicalliberal  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:52:27pm

re: #131 freetoken

I see that Corsi and WND are pushing yet another Obama conspiracy:

1979 ARTICLE TIES 'OBAMA'S REAL FATHER' TO SAUDI FINANCIER?

They never stop.

And as long as people keep sending them money, they have no incentive to stop.

The Bushes were tied to Saudi financiers too.

133 Gus  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:52:30pm

See. I told ya.

LOOK OUT POOP!

[Sound of car crashing.]

134 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:54:03pm

re: #131 freetoken

I see that Corsi and WND are pushing yet another Obama conspiracy:

1979 ARTICLE TIES 'OBAMA'S REAL FATHER' TO SAUDI FINANCIER?

They never stop.

And as long as people keep sending them money, they have no incentive to stop.

Ha, childs play. I can find pictures of Bush the Lesser swapping spit with his Saudi financier on the fucking white house lawn.

135 freetoken  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:54:47pm

re: #127 moderatelyradicalliberal

What makes a "leader" an actual leader is that they get people to follow them.

If Romney chose to jump into the deep end of the wingnut pool, that was his choice. He could have led the GOP out of their cul-de-sac in the suburb of stupid, but he didn't, because he's not the leader that is needed.

136 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:55:26pm

re: #134 Eventual Carrion

Ha, childs play. I can find pictures of Bush the Lesser swapping spit with his Saudi financier on the fucking white house lawn.

Never!...

Image: bush-kisses-saudi-prince-4-15-09.png

...mind.

137 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:55:41pm

re: #132 moderatelyradicalliberal

The Bushes were tied to Saudi financiers too.

Yeah, but they're not Muslims from Kenya with an anti-colonialist worldview. They're from New England and of good stock, so they're Mostly Real American in origin. George W. became a fully Real American when he moved into God's Country, Texas.

/Weird Nut Daily

138 Gus  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:56:02pm

Check out the beatnik in the center.

Image: Dick_Powell_Show_Premiere_Episode_1961.JPG

139 moderatelyradicalliberal  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:56:02pm

re: #135 freetoken

What makes a "leader" an actual leader is that they get people to follow them.

If Romney chose to jump into the deep end of the wingnut pool, that was his choice. He could have led the GOP out of their cul-de-sac in the suburb of stupid, but he didn't, because he's not the leader that is needed.

No he couldn't have. Nobody could lead them out of the stupid. Nobody. They are where they want to be.

140 SteveMcG  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:56:04pm

Romney didn't want to be a leader, he just wanted to win the prize. He's been running for the last five years, dammit, they owe him!

141 moderatelyradicalliberal  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:57:00pm

re: #137 Dark_Falcon

/Weird Nut Daily

That would be their exact rationale.

142 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:57:41pm

OMFG! Gibbs just fucking killed a man! Stabbed him in the fucking gut! I'm buying some Coors next time I go to the store.

143 aagcobb  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:57:57pm

re: #127 moderatelyradicalliberal

Oh, I don't feel sorry for him. I'm just saying that the usual excuse that GOPers use for losing (candidate wasn't conservative enough) will be total bullshit. R-Money went severely conservative for the sake of the GOP base and that will be what costs him the election.

The version of Mitt Romney (I won't say the "real" Mitt Romney, because I don't know that such a creature exists) who was Governor of Massachusetts could easily have been in the same political party as Obama, or worked with the President in a bi-partisan manner. But the GOP has hunted RINOs to near extinction, so now we have Tea Party Romney.

144 Targetpractice  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:58:07pm

re: #138 Gus

Check out the beatnik in the center.

Image: Dick_Powell_Show_Premiere_Episode_1961.JPG

Should I feel bad that I can recognize Lloyd Bridges in the back row, even though I was born in '84?

145 Gus  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:58:33pm

Precipitating a physical encounter is far worse then defacing advertising.

146 Targetpractice  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:58:37pm

re: #142 darthstar

OMFG! Gibbs just fucking killed a man! Stabbed him in the fucking gut! I'm buying some Coors next time I go to the store.

Eh?

147 Gus  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:58:51pm

re: #144 Targetpractice

Should I feel bad that I can recognize Lloyd Bridges in the back row, even though I was born in '84?

Mickey Rooney.

148 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:58:56pm

re: #140 SteveMcG

Romney didn't want to be a leader, he just wanted to win the prize. He's been running for the last five years, dammit, they owe him!

I've said this for some time. He doesn't want the responsibility, just the title. If he were to acquire the office of President (he sees it as an acquisition, not an election), he'd dump all the heavy shit onto his staff and do photo ops and really not much more.

149 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:58:59pm

re: #142 darthstar

OMFG! Gibbs just fucking killed a man! Stabbed him in the fucking gut! I'm buying some Coors next time I go to the store.

OK screwball, what are you watching?

150 Gus  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:59:08pm

re: #146 Targetpractice

Eh?

NCIS?

151 Gus  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:59:18pm

Gibbs!

152 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:59:30pm

re: #125 dragonath

What was the first entitlement program he was talking about? Besides Medicare.

Anyway- this guy was director of Health and Human Services under Bush.

Wisconsin had a welfare system that made it possible for single mothers to get a good education and become Nurses, social workers or equally middle to upper middle class professionals and pay back the system with taxes because it REQUIRED recipients to get a good education. This apparently is anathema to the Republican mindset so he destroyed that system and replaced it with W2 (aka "Wisconsin Works") where you can't get an education but must instead take the first minimum wage job offered you, barely better than a serf.

Tommy was the single most evil SOB of the 20th century in our governor's mansion. Walker tries but he's just not sick enough to walk in Tommy's shoes; much as I hate to admit it he is far closer to a true christian than Tommy. I really wish they would have published stories about just why his wife of oh so many years always lived in a different town from him... :O

153 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:59:51pm

re: #146 Targetpractice

Eh?

NCIS - the guy who plays the lead used to wear jeans and an Eddie Bauer sweater and talk about Coors beer while standing over a mountain stream.

154 Gus  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:59:57pm

[Low fire.]

Shit I ruined that. Was supposed to be...

GIBBS!

[Low fire.]

155 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:00:35pm

I'm not a parent (THANK "BOB"!), so I guess my point of view is irrelevant by definition, but I can't imagine not wanting to strike down with great vengeance and fuuuuurious anger those who would take it upon themselves to strike and slap even those among my children whose lost their way through the valley of darkness.

156 Targetpractice  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:00:35pm

re: #153 darthstar

NCIS - the guy who plays the lead used to wear jeans and an Eddie Bauer sweater and talk about Coors beer while standing over a mountain stream.

I know NCIS and I know Gibbs. I was just wondering what was so shocking about him killing a guy?

157 Mattand  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:00:51pm

re: #144 Targetpractice

Should I feel bad that I can recognize Lloyd Bridges in the back row, even though I was born in '84?

Actually, I'm impressed you even know who Lloyd Bridges is. I feel bad that you were born in '84, because it's reminding me how old I'm getting.

158 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:01:21pm

re: #156 Targetpractice

I know NCIS and I know Gibbs. I was just wondering what was so shocking about him killing a guy?

Nothing, except I was tuned out for most of the show and looked up for the last two minutes. It was a very intimate killing.

159 Targetpractice  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:01:38pm

re: #158 darthstar

Nothing, except I was tuned out for most of the show and looked up for the last two minutes. It was a very intimate killing.

Ah.

160 jaunte  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:01:49pm

re: #153 darthstar

NCIS - the guy who plays the lead used to wear jeans and an Eddie Bauer sweater and talk about Coors beer while standing over a mountain stream.

I want to see his seminar on how to get the boat out of the basement.

161 Targetpractice  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:01:57pm

re: #157 Mattand

Actually, I'm impressed you even know who Lloyd Bridges is. I feel bad that you were born in '84, because it's reminding me how old I'm getting.

"I picked the wrong week to quit drinking."

162 aagcobb  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:01:59pm

re: #157 Mattand

Actually, I'm impressed you even know who Lloyd Bridges is. I feel bad that you were born in '84, because it's reminding me how old I'm getting.

Shit, I was a junior in college in 1984.

163 Mattand  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:02:23pm

re: #158 darthstar

Nothing, except I was tuned out for most of the show and looked up for the last two minutes. It was a very intimate killing.

That B/W freeze frame they do at the end of the show grates on my nerves, for some reason.

164 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:02:24pm

re: #138 Gus

Check out the beatnik in the center.

Image: Dick_Powell_Show_Premiere_Episode_1961.JPG

One of the gay guys from the Village People was on that show? (far left, cowboy hat)

165 Mattand  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:02:40pm

re: #161 Targetpractice

"I picked the wrong week to quit drinking."

And sniffing glue.

166 Targetpractice  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:02:43pm

re: #160 jaunte

I want to see his seminar on how to get the boat out of the basement.

I'm convinced it has something to do with demolition.

167 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:03:04pm

re: #157 Mattand

Actually, I'm impressed you even know who Lloyd Bridges is. I feel bad that you were born in '84, because it's reminding me how old I'm getting.

It's the tube of glue stuck up his nose that gives him away.

168 Gus  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:03:23pm

re: #164 darthstar

One of the gay guys from the Village People was on that show? (far left, cowboy hat)

Yeah, I think I know that guy. Who is that guy? [Scratches beard.]

169 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:03:27pm

re: #144 Targetpractice

Should I feel bad that I can recognize Lloyd Bridges in the back row, even though I was born in '84?

You should mainly feel bad about being born in '84. It was all your fault.

170 Targetpractice  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:04:11pm

re: #169 Our Precious Bodily Fluids

You should mainly feel bad about being born in '84. It was all your fault.

You make it sound like I had a choice in the matter.

171 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:04:19pm

re: #162 aagcobb

Shit, I was a junior in college in 1984.

I was stoned. And in college. But mostly stoned. Oh, and yeah, I voted for Reagan. Yes, I was that stoned.

172 SteveMcG  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:04:25pm

re: 157

I feel your pain. I'm back to school, and MTV was on campus today to "Rock the Vote". I could not get the old "Rock the Boat" song out of my head.

173 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:04:27pm

re: #155 Our Precious Bodily Fluids

I'm not a parent (THANK "BOB"!), so I guess my point of view is irrelevant by definition, but I can't imagine not wanting to strike down with great vengeance and fuuuuurious anger those who would take it upon themselves to strike and slap even those among my children whose lost their way through the valley of darkness.

I imagine myself transforming into the Hulk.

174 freetoken  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:05:01pm

Christian Evangelist Bill Keller Willing to Die for 'Insulting' Islam?

Internet evangelist Bill Keller, who has been outspoken against religions that he believes go against a biblical worldview, has written a letter to Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi, telling him he is ready to stand trial and even face the death penalty in Egypt if charged with attacking Islam.


[...]

175 Mattand  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:05:02pm

re: #162 aagcobb

Shit, I was a junior in college in 1984.

I was in high school, OLD MAN/WOMAN!

(I got burned a month or so ago assuming Decatur Deb was a lady. Not taking any chances with screen names anymore.)

176 moderatelyradicalliberal  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:05:24pm

re: #168 Gus

Yeah, I think I know that guy. Who is that guy? [Scratches beard.]

I think I know who inspired Cowboy Curtis on Pee Wee's Playhouse.

Image: tumblr_m4lc0gTQti1qlbkes.jpg

177 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:05:43pm

re: #175 Mattand

I was in high school, OLD MAN/WOMAN!

(I got burned a month or so ago assuming Decatur Deb was a lady. Not taking any chances with screen names anymore.)

I'm a dude...wait, let me look...yep. Got a dick. I'm a dude.

178 SteveMcG  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:05:48pm

re: 171

I voted for Reagan. No regrets. He was running agaisnt Walter Mondale.

179 aagcobb  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:06:13pm

re: #171 darthstar

I was stoned. And in college. But mostly stoned. Oh, and yeah, I voted for Reagan. Yes, I was that stoned.

Hell, I was a college republican, and I don't even have the excuse of being stoned. I just got drunk.

180 dragonath  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:06:31pm

re: #178 SteveMcG

re: 171

I voted for Reagan. No regrets. He was running agaisnt Walter Mondale.

You could have voted for Bill the Cat...

181 freetoken  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:07:50pm

It's like they are acting as if ABC is casting for a new reality TV show, to be shown after The Bachelor, called The Martyr .

And Keller wants to be the first winner.

182 HappyWarrior  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:07:56pm

Stench will be hard to go away. Still think a guy like him who was being talked as someone with a future in the party should have ran for Senate or Governor in what was a very Republican year two years back. Not that I'm complaining.

183 aagcobb  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:08:05pm

re: #175 Mattand

I was in high school, OLD MAN/WOMAN!

(I got burned a month or so ago assuming Decatur Deb was a lady. Not taking any chances with screen names anymore.)

In my case, man.

184 Mich-again  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:09:13pm

In 1984 I was a sophomore in college and I had a smoking hot GF and the Tigers won the World Series. good times..

185 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:10:00pm

re: #178 SteveMcG

re: 171

I voted for Reagan. No regrets. He was running agaisnt Walter Mondale.

True story...I grew up in rural Northern California. In the summer of 84, I was taking summer classes at CSU Sacramento to get some extra credits. One class was English 101 - upper division writing. The first day of class, everyone was abuzz about Mondale's pick of Geraldine Ferraro. Me, being an ignorant redneck in a room full of liberal women (and I was wearing a "Better Dead than Red" t-shirt to boot) said, "Oh, no, not a woman!" Well, that labeled me for some time in the English department, and it took some time for people to realize I wasn't just some redneck Republican asshole. The professor and I actually became quite good friends over the following years, and she never forgot that first impression...loved ribbing me about it.

186 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:10:05pm

re: #178 SteveMcG

re: 171

I voted for Reagan. No regrets. He was running agaisnt Walter Mondale.

I hesitate to admit this but I did as well, for a single issue reason - I always hated Mondale for what he did to the NASA budget. That is the only Republican presidential vote in my life.

187 aagcobb  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:10:16pm

re: #182 HappyWarrior

Stench will be hard to go away. Still think a guy like him who was being talked as someone with a future in the party should have ran for Senate or Governor in what was a very Republican year two years back. Not that I'm complaining.

Well I hope Ryan is the GOP nominee in '16, because when he gets crushed, the wingnuts won't be able to use the excuse that he wasn't conservative enough.

188 freetoken  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:11:38pm

I can dig the byline:

Reality Checkmate

Americans now have “reality” shows on every topic you can imagine except reality itself—it’s the one thing Americans won’t face.

189 HappyWarrior  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:11:47pm

re: #187 aagcobb

Well I hope Ryan is the GOP nominee in '16, because when he gets crushed, the wingnuts won't be able to use the excuse that he wasn't conservative enough.

Heh I do too but that's always going to be the excuse or some form of it. Though if Ryan gets landslided, they will claim that the American people can't handle Ryan's "hard truths."

190 HappyWarrior  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:12:10pm

In 84, I was negative three years old. Take that.

191 erik_t  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:12:22pm

re: #187 aagcobb

Well I hope Ryan is the GOP nominee in '16, because when he gets crushed, the wingnuts won't be able to use the excuse that he wasn't conservative enough.

Facts are no consequence. They will say what they want to say enough times to believe it.

192 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:12:35pm

re: #187 aagcobb

Well I hope Ryan is the GOP nominee in '16, because when he gets crushed, the wingnuts won't be able to use the excuse that he wasn't conservative enough.

If the wingnuts are still in control of the GOP in 2016, we're going to be in deep shit as a country because there will be another four years of nothing getting done due to obstructionism.

I really hope Harry Reid changes the rules in January and does away with the Filibuster. It's our only hope of getting shit done.

193 Targetpractice  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:12:49pm

re: #190 HappyWarrior

In 84, I was negative three years old. Take that.

Aren't you up past your bed time, pipsqueak?

///

194 HappyWarrior  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:13:57pm

re: #193 Targetpractice

Aren't you up past your bed time, pipsqueak?

///

Ha!

195 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:14:08pm
196 Gus  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:14:18pm

Michelle Obama already won best FLOTUS.

197 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:14:27pm

re: #170 Targetpractice

You make it sound like I had a choice in the matter.

Not just the year of your birth, but the place of it. And your parents? Puuh-leeez. Of all the parents available, you picked THOSE?

198 Gus  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:15:00pm

re: #195 darthstar

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Will be cool to get stoned with Paul Ryan a year from now.

199 Gus  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:15:36pm

Mitt Romney.

Douche.

200 HappyWarrior  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:15:59pm

Trying to think of the last time a losing VP candidate ended up becoming his party's standard bearer. Lieberman did terribly in the 2004 Democratic primaries and Edwards was a distant third to Hillary and Obama in 2008.

201 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:16:10pm

re: #198 Gus

Will be cool to get stoned with Paul Ryan a year from now.

I'd do that. Be kind of fun to get high with him and say, "Really, this Ayn Rand shit...you actually believe it?" But I wouldn't share a glass of milk with Romney. I can't stand that fucker.

202 Targetpractice  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:16:25pm

re: #195 darthstar

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"Six more weeks...I've got six more weeks to go..."

203 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:16:41pm

In 1984, I was 10. My current events report , the one I can remember, was about the baboon heart in the baby transplant.

204 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:17:11pm

re: #192 darthstar

If the wingnuts are still in control of the GOP in 2016, we're going to be in deep shit as a country because there will be another four years of nothing getting done due to obstructionism.

I really hope Harry Reid changes the rules in January and does away with the Filibuster. It's our only hope of getting shit done.

He won't. He'd rather keep it in case he's in the minority in 2015.

205 freetoken  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:17:17pm

re: #196 Gus

Jackie and Nancy probably has her beat as far as style (in the classic sense), but Michelle is probably the most successful activist FLOTUS since Eleanor.

206 dragonath  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:17:45pm

Reading up on Mondale, I'm still kind of surprised he lost to political nonentity Norm Coleman in 2002.

207 HappyWarrior  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:18:14pm

re: #205 freetoken

Jackie and Nancy probably has her beat as far as style (in the classic sense), but Michelle is probably the most successful activist FLOTUS since Eleanor.

Consequently or not, she's probably also the most reviled since Eleanor too. Sucks because she really does not deserve the hate she gets.

208 aagcobb  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:18:29pm

re: #200 HappyWarrior

Trying to think of the last time a losing VP candidate ended up becoming his party's standard bearer. Lieberman did terribly in the 2004 Democratic primaries and Edwards was a distant third to Hillary and Obama in 2008.

A guy we've mentioned a couple of times, Walter Mondale for the Democrats, and Bob Dole for the GOP (ran with Ford in '76).

209 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:18:42pm

re: #204 Dark_Falcon

He won't. He'd rather keep it in case he's in the minority in 2015.

He held off because of the 2010 threat. He knows better now. Kill the filibuster and you'll get a lot more consensus.

210 Targetpractice  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:18:48pm

re: #204 Dark_Falcon

He won't. He'd rather keep it in case he's in the minority in 2015.

He will, because every returning Democrat has already sent him a petition to do so.

211 HappyWarrior  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:19:08pm

re: #208 aagcobb

A guy we've mentioned a couple of times, Walter Mondale for the Democrats, and Bob Dole for the GOP (ran with Ford in '76).

Ah, yeah. Sorry had a brain fart there. So it does have some recent precedent.

212 Big Joe  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:19:34pm

Bunch of kids on this board. I was living on a sailboat in SF bay when Reagan won in 1980.

213 dragonath  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:19:59pm

re: #200 HappyWarrior

Trying to think of the last time a losing VP candidate ended up becoming his party's standard bearer. Lieberman did terribly in the 2004 Democratic primaries and Edwards was a distant third to Hillary and Obama in 2008.

Here's one. FDR.

214 Mich-again  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:20:22pm

Paul Ryan is this generation's Dan Quayle.

215 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:20:38pm

re: #200 HappyWarrior

Trying to think of the last time a losing VP candidate ended up becoming his party's standard bearer. Lieberman did terribly in the 2004 Democratic primaries and Edwards was a distant third to Hillary and Obama in 2008.

If you mean someone who had not been VP and then had his ticket lose, the answer is FDR. Franklin D. Roosevelt was the Dems' pick for VP in 1920.

If you mean a vice president whose ticket lost and then he ran for president himself 4 years later, then the Answer is Walter Mondale.

216 HappyWarrior  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:20:43pm

re: #213 dragonath

Here's one. FDR.

Yeah, that's right, he was James Cox's running mate in 1920.

217 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:21:10pm

re: #202 Targetpractice

"Six more weeks...I've got six more weeks to go..."

218 HappyWarrior  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:21:31pm

re: #214 Mich-again

Paul Ryan is this generation's Dan Quayle.

Now I'm hungry for potatoes.

219 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:22:00pm

re: #218 HappyWarrior

Now I'm hungry for potatoes.

I'm always hungry for potatoes. Sometimes it sucks to be Irish.

220 simoom  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:22:06pm

Rep. David Rivera's seat seems a likely Dem House pickup:

[Link: www.miamiherald.com...]

Justin Lamar Sternad, whose failed congressional campaign became the subject of a federal grand-jury investigation, has told the FBI that U.S. Rep. David Rivera was secretly behind his run for office, The Miami Herald and El Nuevo Herald have learned.

Sternad, 35, also told authorities that his campaign manager, Ana Sol Alliegro, acted as the conduit between the campaign and Rivera, who allegedly steered unreported cash to the Democrat’s campaign, according to sources familiar with the investigation and records shared with The Herald.

Sternad said Alliegro referred to the congressman by his initials, “D.R.,” and called him by the nickname, “The Gangster.”

...

Sternad’s account to federal authorities supports what two campaign vendors told The Miami Herald and El Nuevo Herald: that the congressman was the driver behind a botched attempt to plant a candidate in the District 26 congressional primary.

...

The political newcomer — a night-time hotel worker — said he continued with the scheme because Alliegro told him that “D.R.” would get him a better job to support his wife and five kids if he lost.

...

After the story ran in The Miami Herald and El Nuevo Herald, Rapid Mail employees said Alliegro stormed into the Hialeah warehouse and screamed: “Did you read the story? You got to get rid of everything. The s--t hit the fan! I got to calm down David and Lamar. This is bad!”

Borrero refused to destroy records, and instead turned everything over to Miami-Dade Public Corruption detectives and two FBI agents who separately contacted him.

[Link: www.npr.org...]

"This is highly unusual. I cannot ever remember a member of Congress being involved in something quite as sleazy as this," says Melanie Sloan, who heads Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington.

One of the businessmen said he was paid entirely in cash — receiving four thick envelopes stuffed with $100 bills. Emails and invoices reportedly link the payments to Rivera.

The story gets juicier. The money was delivered by one of Rivera's friends — a Republican campaign operative. Prosecutors seized her computers and were set to talk to her, but she disappeared. Even her lawyer and mother say they don't know where she is.

221 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:22:06pm

re: #204 Dark_Falcon

He won't. He'd rather keep it in case he's in the minority in 2015.

Someone needs to be a patriot. Someone needs to give a bigger fuck for the country than that GD party system George Washington warned us about. Someone needs to nuke the filibuster and do it in such a way that it has a stake through it's heart and can never be raised again.

I do not care what party that someone belongs to, but if someone does kill the filibuster, I'd vote in favor of that person for the rest of my life as I am willing to do for Russ Feingold for voting against the (Anti)Patriot Act.

222 Targetpractice  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:22:35pm

re: #219 darthstar

I'm always hungry for potatoes. Sometimes it sucks to be Irish.

Meat and potatoes, what more does a man need?

//

223 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:22:58pm

re: #222 Targetpractice

Meat and potatoes, what more does a man need?

//

Sriracha sauce.

224 HappyWarrior  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:23:26pm

re: #219 darthstar

I'm always hungry for potatoes. Sometimes it sucks to be Irish.

That it is. Whiskey too.

225 HappyWarrior  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:23:46pm

re: #222 Targetpractice

Meat and potatoes, what more does a man need?

//

Whiskey or Stout.

226 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:24:02pm

re: #214 Mich-again

Paul Ryan is this generation's Dan Quayle.

I thought Ben Quayle was this generation's Dan Quayle.

227 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:24:10pm

Goodnight, all.

228 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:24:20pm

re: #224 HappyWarrior

That it is. Whiskey too.

I'm often running out of whiskey...it's also costly being Irish.

229 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:24:46pm

re: #227 Dark_Falcon

Goodnight, all.

Good luck with the job interview. Don't wear a blue polyester suit with white shoes!

230 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:25:04pm

re: #214 Mich-again

Paul Ryan is this generation's Dan Quayle.

Nah, Dan was a far brighter intellectual than Paul.
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No, no snark slashes. Dan was silly & dumb. But Paul actually thinks Ayn Rand makes sense. That's stupider than anything Dan ever said.

231 Mich-again  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:25:20pm

I prefer Quayle to Ryan Aynyday ..

We don't want to go back to tomorrow, we want to go forward.

232 Digital Display  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:25:24pm

I loved the 80's and 90's. We were a young growing family and I was a Nuke building Subs at MINSY. I spent 3 years working at Pearl Harbor and every summer my Family would stay with pops in Hawaii. It was the time of our lives. My kids loved every minute.

233 jaunte  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:25:55pm

re: #230 William Barnett-Lewis

But Paul actually thinks Ayn Rand makes sense. That's stupider than anything Dan ever said.

234 Targetpractice  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:26:12pm

Think I'm gonna head out too. Need a few hours before work tomorrow.

Laters.

235 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:26:59pm

Giants are getting killed tonight...but hey, we still clinched the NL West title, so who gives a fuck?

236 HappyWarrior  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:27:05pm

re: #230 William Barnett-Lewis

Nah, Dan was a far brighter intellectual than Paul.
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No, no snark slashes. Dan was silly & dumb. But Paul actually thinks Ayn Rand makes sense. That's stupider than anything Dan ever said.

There was also Paul's comment on Global Warming. About how you know it's hard to convince your constituents of global warming being real when it's snowing in the middle of February. That more so than his Ayn Rand worship showed me that Ryan isn't the intellectual heavyweight he's made out to be by his admirers.

237 Amory Blaine  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:27:12pm

RIM's swan song?

238 HappyWarrior  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:27:44pm

re: #228 darthstar

I'm often running out of whiskey...it's also costly being Irish.

Don't I know it. And it's a shame too because whiskey is my writing medicine.

239 Mich-again  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:30:25pm

Quayle is a treasure trove. 500 years from now he might be the most beloved politician of our era just because of his quotes..

Welcome to President Bush, Mrs. Bush, and my fellow astronauts.

I believe we are on an irreversible trend toward more freedom and democracy - but that could change.

We are ready for any unforeseen event that may or may not occur.


Mars is essentially in the same orbit... Mars is somewhat the same distance from the Sun, which is very important. We have seen pictures where there are canals, we believe, and water. If there is water, that means there is oxygen. If oxygen, that means we can breathe.

240 dragonath  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:33:28pm
241 HappyWarrior  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:33:43pm

I remember back in 2000, Quayle considered a run for president. My Dad's then manager at the restaurant he was working at was super psyched about that apparently. Because you know Dan Quayle. The guy who used the bully pulpit to attack a fictional character was such great leadership material. Still amazed that guy with H.W Bush's smarts would pick someone like that to be his running mate.

242 Gus  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:35:24pm
243 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:36:12pm

re: #223 darthstar

Sriracha sauce.

Sriracha is a sauce of despair and resignation. It's not mild enough for those who prefer their "hot sauce" comically mild, nor is it hot enough for those who actually enjoy the relentless burn of a truly hot pepper. Its saving grace is the fact that it actually has an enjoyable flavor.

244 freetoken  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:36:32pm

re: #242 Gus

Using Chrome, I get that "Flash crash" every once in a while.


Damn that Flash.

245 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:36:39pm

Good night all.

246 Gus  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:37:43pm

re: #244 freetoken

Using Chrome, I get that "Flash crash" every once in a while.

Damn that Flash.

I can still get through it.

247 jaunte  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:38:38pm

Godless liberal thugs!

248 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:39:26pm

Here's tonight's Daily Show segment where Stewart grills Mitt Romney (and President Obama) fairly equally...

[Link: www.mediaite.com...]

249 freetoken  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:39:40pm

I see that National Racists Online is in full-press mode about the failings of Obama, pushing article by the usual suspects (e.g., Malkin), and doing the least amount of discussion about Romney that they can get by with.

I take that as a sign.

250 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:39:59pm

re: #229 darthstar

Good luck with the job interview. Don't wear a blue polyester suit with white shoes!

Well, that advice is incredibly cruel of you. You should be ashamed of yourself.

The preferred corporate fashion is a maroon single-breasted jacket with khaki pants and an off-white shirt.

251 HappyWarrior  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:40:06pm

re: #247 jaunte

Godless liberal thugs!

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Heh checked out the guy's twitter. He loves the word "thug." Yeah "liberal thugs" wrecked our economy. Moron.

252 Gus  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:40:07pm

re: #247 jaunte

Godless liberal thugs!

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Yep. A dude using an avatar of a woman.

253 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:40:46pm

re: #247 jaunte

Godless liberal thugs!

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Apparently, 'godless liberal thug' is a compliment...

254 Kragar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:41:34pm

Nothing says confidence and unity like having cute little nicknames like stench and people leading cheers for your VP selection in front of the Presidential nominee.

255 jaunte  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:41:48pm

re: #253 darthstar

Maybe he's doing a parody...

256 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:41:53pm

re: #250 Our Precious Bodily Fluids

Well, that advice is incredibly cruel of you. You should be ashamed of yourself.

The preferred corporate fashion is a maroon single-breasted jacket with khaki pants and an off-white shirt.

I said "don't"!

257 Mich-again  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:44:19pm

Can the very same God that created every little galaxy in the Universe that the Hubble telescope hasn't got around to even looking at like a microscope focuses on a slide really care what John Sununu says?

258 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:44:53pm

re: #255 jaunte

Maybe he's doing a parody...

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Maybe, but there are a lot of just insane unsolicited ramblings about Obama in that person's twitter feed.

259 jaunte  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:45:09pm

Pennsylvania Activists May Be On Verge Of Winning Voter ID Fight
[Link: www.alternet.org...]

A lower court judge appears to be seeking a compromise for the presidential election.
......
Commonwealth court judge Robert Simpson told voting rights lawyers led by the ACLU of Pennsylvania and state officials he had to consider suspending the new voter ID law for this November’s presidential election, because the state agency responsible for implementing the law has not yet done so in a manner that does not harm voters.

260 jaunte  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:45:28pm

re: #258 darthstar

It's so hard to tell these days.

261 dragonath  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:46:54pm

Oh jeez:

[Link: www.facebook.com...]

262 Kragar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:49:17pm

re: #261 dragonath

Oh jeez:

[Link: www.facebook.com...]

Mecklenburg County VA Republican Party's Page

263 HappyWarrior  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:49:22pm

re: #261 dragonath

Oh jeez:

[Link: www.facebook.com...]

And then they'll cry but but the liberals are the real racists when they're called on it. And some low level staff member will get scapegoated while the chairman of the party for that county will be just fine.

264 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:52:06pm

re: #243 Our Precious Bodily Fluids

Sriracha is a sauce of despair and resignation. It's not mild enough for those who prefer their "hot sauce" comically mild, nor is it hot enough for those who actually enjoy the relentless burn of a truly hot pepper. Its saving grace is the fact that it actually has an enjoyable flavor.

Sriracha is meant to be added to Thai food to give a kick of garlic/red chile flavor. It's not a "hot sauce" at all by Thai standards. If they truly want heat, they bust out the nam prik composed of nought but chile oil, shallot mince, and chile seeds.

265 Mich-again  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:52:34pm

re: #261 dragonath

Oh jeez:

[Link: www.facebook.com...]

"Those aren't the images I would have used." Mitt Romney.

266 jaunte  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:52:57pm

re: #261 dragonath
State party officials are condemning, but the local guy is just fine with it.

“These kinds of images have no place in political discourse — period,” said Pat Mullins, chairman of the Republican Party of Virginia. “They are offensive, tasteless and should never have been posted anywhere, let alone a local unit’s Facebook page. The Republican Party of Virginia condemns this sort of imagery in the strongest possible terms. I am in the process of contacting our Mecklenburg County unit to inform them that this is unacceptable behavior from any local unit associated with our party.”
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Anna Scholl, executive director of ProgressVA, called the images racist. “I think the images are obviously offensive and seek to portray our president, and black men more broadly, as, quote unquote, savages,” she said. “I think it both perpetuates this totally debunked idea that Obama wasn’t really born here, that he’s not really an American.”

R. Wallace “Wally” Hudson, chairman of the committee, was surprised to hear from a reporter that anyone had taken offense.

“If that group is that sensitive, I’m sorry, they’re just not human,” he said, chuckling. “It’s not American. If they’ve got a problem with it, we’re not going to change what we do.”
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

267 HappyWarrior  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:54:38pm

re: #266 jaunte

State party officials are condemning, but the local guy is just fine with it.

Not shocked. Now let's see what actually happens here.

268 freetoken  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:54:43pm

And finally today, one little piece of neatness:

Hubble Goes to the eXtreme to Assemble Farthest-Ever View of the Universe

Called the eXtreme Deep Field, or XDF, the photo was assembled by combining 10 years of NASA Hubble Space Telescope photographs taken of a patch of sky at the center of the original Hubble Ultra Deep Field. The XDF is a small fraction of the angular diameter of the full moon.

[...]

See also:

269 simoom  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:55:08pm

re: #261 dragonath

Oh jeez:

[Link: www.facebook.com...]

More racial, birther, etc crap from there:
[Link: www.facebook.com...]
[Link: www.facebook.com...]
[Link: www.facebook.com...]
[Link: www.facebook.com...]
[Link: www.facebook.com...]
[Link: www.facebook.com...]

270 simoom  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:57:24pm

Oh, and their Wall also has the photos of Amb. Stevens' body being carried from consulate.

271 HappyWarrior  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:57:28pm

re: #269 simoom

More racial, birther, etc crap from there:
[Link: www.facebook.com...]
[Link: www.facebook.com...]
[Link: www.facebook.com...]
[Link: www.facebook.com...]
[Link: www.facebook.com...]
[Link: www.facebook.com...]

Yikes. Not really surprised though.

272 HappyWarrior  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:57:44pm

re: #270 simoom

Oh, and their Wall also has the photos of Amb. Stevens' body being carried from consulate.

Sick fucks.

273 Gus  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:57:56pm

re: #270 simoom

Oh, and their Wall also has the photos of Amb. Stevens' body being carried from consulate.

Really?

274 JamesWI  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:58:58pm
275 simoom  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 9:59:03pm

re: #273 Gus

Really?

Yeah, I didn't link to them, but you can see their thumbnails if you go to the Wall Photos album.

276 jaunte  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 10:02:17pm

“We know our regular readers, who are good conservatives, they’re gonna get a kick out of it,” said Hudson, 55, a retired airline flight crew member who became chairman in May. “The rest of them, if they don’t want to see it, they don’t have to look at it."

277 simoom  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 10:02:23pm

I'm off to bed too, night all.

278 Kragar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 10:02:27pm

re: #275 simoom

Yeah, I didn't link to them, but you can see their thumbnails if you go to the Wall Photos album.

The message was to go on the offensive, not go be offensive!
/

279 HappyWarrior  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 10:06:15pm

re: #276 jaunte

“We know our regular readers, who are good conservatives, they’re gonna get a kick out of it,” said Hudson, 55, a retired airline flight crew member who became chairman in May. “The rest of them, if they don’t want to see it, they don’t have to look at it."

So, Hudson would have no problem if a local Democratic county committee had an image of Mitt in a KKK uniform or Nazi uniform because hey no one has to look at it. //

280 Kronocide  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 10:08:05pm

re: #273 Gus

Really?

Yep. Pretty sick FB page, undiscernable from the rest of the putrid echo chambers.

281 Gus  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 10:08:51pm

re: #280 Kronocide

Yep. Pretty sick FB page, undiscernable from the rest of the putrid echo chambers.

Repulsive.

282 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 10:08:53pm

Republican racism smells like despair.
They picked a dud.
They don't want to see it, so they're not gonna look.

283 Kragar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 10:08:59pm

re: #276 jaunte

“We know our regular readers, who are good conservatives, they’re gonna get a kick out of it,” said Hudson, 55, a retired airline flight crew member who became chairman in May. “The rest of them, if they don’t want to see it, they don’t have to look at it."

Says the kind of jackass who probably wants to ban porn and tell people they need to pray to Jesus everyday.

284 Big Joe  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 10:13:44pm

re: #283 Kragar

Says the kind of jackass who probably wants to ban born and tell people they need to pray to Jesus everyday.

*blink*

nobe, doesn't help.

285 Kragar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 10:16:06pm

re: #284 Big Joe

*blink*

nobe, doesn't help.

I meant porn.

286 freetoken  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 10:16:29pm

re: #283 Kragar

Items like these provide Mitt with plenty of opportunities for "Sister Souljah moments", but Romney is no Clinton.

287 Big Joe  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 10:22:12pm

re: #285 Kragar

I meant porn.

Says the kind of jackass who probably wants to ban born and tell people they need to pray to Jesus everyday.

*blink*

nobe, doesn't help.

I know, just funnin' with you. It did take 3 readings to figure it out. I blame beer.

288 Mocking Jay  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 10:25:23pm

I still can't tell if this story is real or not.

289 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 10:25:34pm

O/T
I let my boys watch 'The Time Machine' this weekend, the good one from the 60's. They loved it.
Funny thing though, my little one kept trying to throw rocks into the storm drains to see what would happen, but his big brother told him he needed firecrackers to kill the Morlocks!

Man, the stuff they say when they think no one is listening...

290 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 10:30:03pm

re: #162 aagcobb

Shit, I was a junior in college in 1984.

Oh, an old fart. I was only a sophomore... ;)

291 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 10:36:45pm

Heh...

The headline, for those who don't twitter:
Staples Closing 60 Stores Worldwide In Bid To Save $250 Million

292 darthstar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 10:41:41pm
293 Kragar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 10:47:35pm

re: #292 darthstar

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Teacher's can't make contributions, only billionaire casino owners and energy magnates.

294 freetoken  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 10:47:55pm

One of Tchaikovsky's lesser known pieces, "Pezzo Cappricioso", a nice little work for cello:

295 HappyWarrior  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 10:51:01pm

re: #292 darthstar

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I saw Romney's comments earlier. Could he be any more of a dickhead if he tried?

296 Kragar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 10:52:14pm

re: #295 HappyWarrior

I saw Romney's comments earlier. Could he be any more of a dickhead if he tried?

CHALLENGE ACCEPTED!!!

297 engineer cat  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 10:59:00pm

with this voter suppression thing, there could be fights at the polling places on election day when people are told that they can't vote like they did last time, or that they are dead or something

298 Kragar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 11:13:50pm

re: #296 Kragar

CHALLENGE ACCEPTED!!!

Romney Says Camp Has Corrected False Ads, Camp Can’t Name An Example

Mitt Romney’s campaign ads have received as many pinocchios and pants on fire from fact checkers as any candidate’s. And in an interview on CNN Tuesday, Romney claimed that when things are wrong in his ads, his campaign fixes them.

Asked for an example after the interview aired, the Romney campaign declined to share one with TPM.

“We stand by our ads because they are accurate,” Romney spokesperson Ryan Williams said. “The Obama Campaign stands by their ads even though President Obama admits that some of them contain mistakes and go ‘overboard.’”

That’s essentially what Romney said on CNN, though he told reporter Jim Acosta any errors in his ads have been corrected.

“We’ve been absolutely spot-on,” Romney said. “And any time there’s anything that’s been amiss, we correct it or remove it.”

Acosta and Romney then went back and forth over Romney’s ad stating President Obama eliminated the work requirement for welfare, a claim that has been widely debunked and slammed by fact checkers.

299 engineer cat  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 11:45:23pm

hey, freetoken - do you like scriabin? the first prelude in this selection is one of my favorite piano pieces

300 Amory Blaine  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 11:49:21pm
301 Kragar  Tue, Sep 25, 2012 11:51:18pm

Working on finishing up 2 more squads of Grey Hunters, figure I got them about 60% done right now.

Image: Grey_Hunters_Warrior.jpg

302 freetoken  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 12:00:32am

re: #299 engineer cat

I had a few tabs open of Scriabin music this past week, in an attempt to find something "digestible" from him.

For me, the problem with so many of these transitionary composers (the change over from the Romanticists to the 20th century "modernists") is that I don't listen to many solo piano (or other instrument) pieces, and so many of them composed a good share of their work to explore with a single instrument (usually a piano.) Plus, I find the transition to atonal or experimental tonalities a bit off putting. These days I'm mostly a listener of the go-big-or-go-home school (e.g., Wagner, or choral music) or more recent ensemble stuff.

At least, when I'm not listening to classic Japanese pop...

303 Kragar  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 12:07:21am

re: #302 freetoken

Koologi / Dear Bob PV

304 engineer cat  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 12:23:28am

re: #302 freetoken

I had a few tabs open of Scriabin music this past week, in an attempt to find something "digestible" from him.

For me, the problem with so many of these transitionary composers (the change over from the Romanticists to the 20th century "modernists") is that I don't listen to many solo piano (or other instrument) pieces, and so many of them composed a good share of their work to explore with a single instrument (usually a piano.) Plus, I find the transition to atonal or experimental tonalities a bit off putting. These days I'm mostly a listener of the go-big-or-go-home school (e.g., Wagner, or choral music) or more recent ensemble stuff.

At least, when I'm not listening to classic Japanese pop...

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interesting to hear your point of view - actually for me my favorite part of the 19th cen repertoire is the piano literature, so we have a real disconnect there. for large orchestral pieces, though, i do like wagner, as well as strauss and brahms, so i liked the wagner you posted the other day

i tend to specialize in the early music quite a bit, although on the other hand sometimes i like to find new music which is not atonal - like reich's music for 18 musicians

when i'm not listening to pre WWII jazz...

305 researchok  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 12:24:13am

Morning, all.

No posts today...I'm sick as a dog.

I haven't felt this lousy since my college pub crawl days...

306 researchok  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 12:28:10am

I dug this up from the archives though, for those of you celebrating the Yom Kippur holiday:

Yom Kippur Greetings

307 Big Joe  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 12:30:30am

re: #302 freetoken

I had a few tabs open of Scriabin music this past week, in an attempt to find something "digestible" from him.

For me, the problem with so many of these transitionary composers (the change over from the Romanticists to the 20th century "modernists") is that I don't listen to many solo piano (or other instrument) pieces, and so many of them composed a good share of their work to explore with a single instrument (usually a piano.) Plus, I find the transition to atonal or experimental tonalities a bit off putting. These days I'm mostly a listener of the go-big-or-go-home school (e.g., Wagner, or choral music) or more recent ensemble stuff.

At least, when I'm not listening to classic Japanese pop...

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That music sounds like the music from early 1960's European movies.

308 researchok  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 12:30:45am

Freedom of Choice

Only in America.

309 freetoken  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 1:03:09am

re: #307 Big Joe

That music sounds like the music from early 1960's European movies.

The Peanuts made most of their recordings in the early 60's, and their film career was... unique:



310 engineer cat  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 1:05:08am

phishing on match.com, a true story...

hey, somebody favorited my profile! yow, what an incredible babe! she says she lives in ohio and is 42. we can chat on the match.com instant messenger! she tells me she's an international antique dealer, she's not in ohio, she's in africa right now. before we chat much, she asks me if we can chat through yahoo messenger... hmmm.. well, i don't have it up on my machine... well, she'll explain how i can set it up. ok, now i am googling articles on hacking yahoo messenger... red lights! i beg off - gee, look at the time, got to get to bed, maybe we can talk tomorrow... last message from "her": send me your cell phone number so i can text you

ahhhhhhhhhhh no

311 AK-47%  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 1:07:55am

re: #310 engineer cat

And then she will tell you how she is manageing the multi-million dollar estate of her deceased uncle and needs your help to get it out of the country...

312 engineer cat  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 1:13:21am

re: #311 AK-47%

And then she will tell you how she is manageing the multi-million dollar estate of her deceased uncle and needs your help to get it out of the country...

you know what's funny? when i said, gee, it's nearly 3am in ohio, she said that actually "she" was on a business trip in nigeria right now...

313 Kragar  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 1:18:25am

re: #309 freetoken

The Peanuts made most of their recordings in the early 60's, and their film career was... unique:

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the pillows - I think I can

314 Kragar  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 1:21:08am

the pillows - crazy sunshine

315 Pip's Squeak  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 1:31:31am

re: #304 engineer cat

interesting to hear your point of view - actually for me my favorite part of the 19th cen repertoire is the piano literature, so we have a real disconnect there. for large orchestral pieces, though, i do like wagner, as well as strauss and brahms, so i liked the wagner you posted the other day

i tend to specialize in the early music quite a bit, although on the other hand sometimes i like to find new music which is not atonal - like reich's music for 18 musicians

when i'm not listening to pre WWII jazz...

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The trouble is that with the advent of youtube there's too much of classical for one fan to take cognizance of any appreciable amount of it. I used to think that I had a more or less decent knowledge of the repertory for a non-musician, but boy was this self-indulgent.

Anyway, beyond eighteenth century curiosities such as symphonies written by Herschel -- yes, the astronomer -- there are a lot of composers circa 1880-1940 who are worthwhile (e.g. Enescu, Dukas, Dohnanyi (especially the chamber stuff), Nielsen, Honegger, Villa-Lobos, Schmitt etc. The list is endless. It really is too bad that the Second Viennese School and its successors have come to define many people's idea of 'modern' music.

316 SpaceJesus  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 1:32:09am

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]


Obama lead growing

317 Kragar  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 1:38:58am

re: #316 SpaceJesus

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

Obama lead growing

318 sagehen  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 1:44:37am

um... anybody see tonight's (last night's) Sons of Anarchy?

I need soothing. Bad things happened to characters I care about.

319 Amory Blaine  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 1:45:15am

Replacement Weatherguy Forecast

320 freetoken  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 2:03:22am

re: #304 engineer cat

i tend to specialize in the early music quite a bit, ...

Old skool, eh? We've got old skool:

321 freetoken  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 2:20:11am

re: #315 Pip's Squeak

It's a journey - discovering music. I've been at this for 40 years or so, listening to "new" stuff. Maybe it's a composer, or a performer, or a song, that I've not heard before. Sometimes I just go back to what I've rejected before and discover I like (or can tolerate) it now - such as some of the operas.

BTW, even though Youtube has plenty of higher quality videos these days, as far as audio is concerned I still think that the sea of mp3s out there on the 'net tend to be much higher quality.

I don't know when the first music was "written", though the previously linked ancient piece was supposedly based on ancient Greek writings. Archeologists have discovered musical instruments that date back 35 or 40 thousand years, if one isn't counting the human voice.

My definition of being "human" is that humans are artists. We may have invented "music" before we invented grammar (in the sense we use it today.)

As far as contemporary or recent composers of serious music (I eschew the term "classical" except in its strict use), I suspect most Americans are only familiar with the music of a handful of composers who have found a lifetime career in movie-music - e.g., John Williams, Morricone, etc. There have been some popularly famous American musicians in the 20th century which wrote serious music (that is, music to last, not just to sell a record this month and get on the pop charts) - George Gershwin, Leonard Bernstein, even Duke Ellington, and while for Americans my age those names are household common, I'm not so sure about today's children. I don't have much interaction with teenagers, but from what is shown on "reality" TV it's looking pretty dim as far as youngsters today knowledge of artists of the past.

So, on with our exploration:

Here's a couple of contemporary musicians - YoYo Ma and Patricia Zander, reinterpreting a Japanese traditional song:


322 AK-47%  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 2:22:25am

re: #321 freetoken

Your-Your Mother!

323 Kragar  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 2:36:45am

Meanwhile, 30 years later, Iron Maiden still remains completely awesome.

Iron Maiden- Phantom Of The Opera - 1980

Iron Maiden - Coming Home - 2010

And my personal favorite

Iron Maiden - Paschendale - 2003

324 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 2:41:55am

re: #323 Kragar

I read somewhere that Queesnryche is coming out with a new album and tour without Geoff Tate and Chris Digarmo. WTF?
And good morning honcos.

325 Pip's Squeak  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 2:54:37am

re: #321 freetoken

My tastes and interests in serious music have also evolved over the decades: started out as a childhood opera buff, don't ask me why, it must have been Milton Cross. Then proceeded to the standard instrumental. Like many, the older I've gotten the more I like chamber music. I've always listened to things new to me, but youtube, quality notwithstanding, makes this very easy. Lately, for example, I've 'discovered' composers previously terra incognita, to wit, Atterberg and Eshpai, and the chamber music of Bruch. If anything, I feel increasingly, and luxuriously, overwhelmed.

326 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 3:04:22am

Uh, yer doing it wrong...
Police: Student Suffers Alcohol Poisoning After Frat Hands Out Alcoholic Enemas
Broughton was at a party at the Phi Kappa Alpha fraternity house when several members handed out rubber tubing to give each other alcoholic enemas, the paper reports.
[Link: atlanta.cbslocal.com...]

Not even with my best friend...

327 AK-47%  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 3:33:42am

re: #326 Cannadian Club Akbar

Uh, yer doing it wrong...
Police: Student Suffers Alcohol Poisoning After Frat Hands Out Alcoholic Enemas
Broughton was at a party at the Phi Kappa Alpha fraternity house when several members handed out rubber tubing to give each other alcoholic enemas, the paper reports.
[Link: atlanta.cbslocal.com...]

Not even with my best friend...

and certainly not with this guy:

328 freetoken  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 3:45:44am
329 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 3:46:34am

$150M-$250M in MNF bets shifted
[Link: espn.go.com...]
Sucks to be them. And I doubt there will/can be any lawsuits.

330 AK-47%  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 3:47:40am

re: #328 freetoken

Want to live longer?

Scientists: 'Castration is the key to a longer life'

You can have these bollocks when you pry them from my cold, wrinkly scrotum!

331 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 3:50:23am

re: #330 AK-47%

You can have these bollocks when you pry them from my cold, wrinkly scrotum!

We'll take them after we administer your alcohol enema.
/

332 Decatur Deb  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 3:53:38am

re: #329 Cannadian Club Akbar

$150M-$250M in MNF bets shifted
[Link: espn.go.com...]
Sucks to be them. And I doubt there will/can be any lawsuits.

No suits--broken kneecaps maybe.

333 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 4:00:49am

re: #332 Decatur Deb

No suits--broken kneecaps maybe.

I bet on a Jags/Steelers game many, many years ago through my friend's bookie. Pittsburg was gonna kick a field goal to ice it and the only way my friend and I could win was if Jacksonville blocked the FG and ran it back. $50 to me!! That was the game where Bill Cower actually took a step onto the field and pulled back his arm like he was gonna punch the guy running it back.

334 garhighway  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 4:06:04am

re: #143 aagcobb

The version of Mitt Romney (I won't say the "real" Mitt Romney, because I don't know that such a creature exists) who was Governor of Massachusetts could easily have been in the same political party as Obama, or worked with the President in a bi-partisan manner. But the GOP has hunted RINOs to near extinction, so now we have Tea Party Romney.

I think the current version is Mittbot 3.2. They're going to try to have a new version out for the debates.

335 AK-47%  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 4:10:18am

re: #334 garhighway

I think the current version is Mittbot 3.2. They're going to try to have a new version out for the debates.

It will be fun to see Obama praise Mitt's record as governor...

336 aagcobb  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 4:21:39am

re: #335 AK-47%

It will be fun to see Obama praise Mitt's record as governor...

I'll enjoy watching Romney explain why Romneycare was a good idea but Obamacare must be repealed! He might get tangled in his own tongue.

337 aagcobb  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 4:23:51am

re: #326 Cannadian Club Akbar

Uh, yer doing it wrong...
Police: Student Suffers Alcohol Poisoning After Frat Hands Out Alcoholic Enemas
Broughton was at a party at the Phi Kappa Alpha fraternity house when several members handed out rubber tubing to give each other alcoholic enemas, the paper reports.
[Link: atlanta.cbslocal.com...]

Not even with my best friend...

Bizarre. That frat just needs to be shut down.

338 Obdicut  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 4:28:03am

re: #337 aagcobb

Bizarre. That frat just needs to be shut down.

The Mayans used to blow tobacco smoke up each other's asses. Or their own, if there was no one around to help.

Image: 1155.jpg

339 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 4:29:47am

re: #338 Obdicut

The Mayans used to blow tobacco smoke up each other's asses. Or their own, if there was no one around to help.

Image: 1155.jpg

I'm guessing the Mayans are blowing smoke up our ass with their stoopid calender.
///

340 Varek Raith  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 4:30:29am

Bottom comment sweep!
Gamark wins a Derpy!

341 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 4:31:16am

re: #340 Varek Raith

Bottom comment sweep!
Gamark wins a Derpy!

Did he/she flounce? And did Buck?

342 Varek Raith  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 4:36:20am

re: #341 Cannadian Club Akbar

Did he/she flounce? And did Buck?

Gamark is still logged in.

Buck, I'm not sure. Might just be because of the holiday?

343 Decatur Deb  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 4:37:50am

re: #341 Cannadian Club Akbar

Did he/she flounce? And did Buck?

Buck did a graceful statement and signed off for Yom Kippur. He'll be the old Buck when next we see him. Can't tell about gamark--looked like the return to hibernation.

344 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 4:38:33am

re: #342 Varek Raith

Gamark is still logged in.

Buck, I'm not sure. Might just be because of the holiday?

I clicked on both nics earlier and neither said blocked or no longer here.

345 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 5:01:49am

re: #250 Our Precious Bodily Fluids

Well, that advice is incredibly cruel of you. You should be ashamed of yourself.

The preferred corporate fashion is a maroon single-breasted jacket with khaki pants and an off-white shirt.

Good Morning,

Actually the best is a proper hand fitted and sewn suit with trousers, coat & vest made of a nice cotton in a the most delightful Hawaiian pattern you can find... //

346 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 5:04:45am

Free DRUGS coffee!!
[Link: faithfulprovisions.com...]

347 aagcobb  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 5:17:51am

I was just looking at the Ohio polls at realclearpolitics. They are devastating for Romney, and RCP now rates Ohio as lean Obama, giving him 265 electoral votes, which means that Romney can only win the election outright if he sweeps Nv, Co, Ia, Va, NC, NH and Florida.* He is behind in the RCP average in every single one, even NC. Its beginning to shape up as a landslide Obama victory, unless the trajectory of this race radically changes.

* If Romney wins all of them except NH, they would tie at 269-269, and Romney would probably win in the House.

348 BongCrodny  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 5:24:29am

re: #328 freetoken

Want to live longer?

Scientists: 'Castration is the key to a longer life'

Maybe you just *think* you're living longer.

Morning, all!

349 Shropshire_Slasher  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 5:30:50am

Brownies for breffist, yummy!

350 Eventual Carrion  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 5:34:45am

re: #349 Shropshire_Slasher

Brownies for breffist, yummy!

Ha, reminds me of the Cosby bit about making breakfast for the kids. They want cake. He thinks, what is in cake: eggs, flour, milk, sounds like breakfast to me. CAKE FOR EVERYONE!

351 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 5:36:44am

re: #349 Shropshire_Slasher

re: #350 Eventual Carrion

Brownie pancakes. We have the technology.

352 AK-47%  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 5:37:41am

re: #351 Cannadian Club Akbar

re: #350 Eventual Carrion

Brownie pancakes. We have the technology.

Brownie waffles.

353 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 5:40:01am

re: #352 AK-47%

Brownie waffles.

I've made chocolate chip waffles. Didn't do the waffle iron any good. Ended up using smaller chips to put on top and letting it sit under a heat lamp for a minute. We also did pecan waffles and bacon waffles.

354 Eventual Carrion  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 5:42:00am

re: #353 Cannadian Club Akbar

I've made chocolate chip waffles. Didn't do the waffle iron any good. Ended up using smaller chips to put on top and letting it sit under a heat lamp for a minute. We also did pecan waffles and bacon waffles.

Bacon waffles sound interesting. Could also do that with pancakes I would guess. Might have to spring that on the boy this weekend.

355 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 5:43:14am

re: #323 Kragar

Meanwhile, 30 years later, Iron Maiden still remains completely awesome.

Iron Maiden- Phantom Of The Opera - 1980

[Embedded content]

Paschendale is on my main Itunes playlist. Along with "The Trooper" and "Flight of Icarus". :)

356 Shropshire_Slasher  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 5:43:23am

re: #353 Cannadian Club Akbar

Waffles with vanilla Chobani yogurt (instead of milk), and a squirt of Hershey syrup.

357 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 5:46:30am

re: #356 Shropshire_Slasher

Waffles with vanilla Chobani yogurt (instead of milk), and a squirt of Hershey syrup.

We made them Belgian style. Think, thick. Topped with blueberries or strawberries, ice cream, whipped cream, etc. Or just a plain ol' waffle.

358 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 5:48:59am

re: #337 aagcobb

Bizarre. That frat just needs to be shut down.

Definitely. And if it's hazing their main officers need to be brought up on criminal charges.

I did volunteer work for my college social fraternity for 16 years after graduating. Alcohol abuse and risk management issues are the biggest challenges the young men in fraternities need to deal with in addition to the academic work they should be concentrating on.

359 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 5:53:11am

re: #353 Cannadian Club Akbar

I've made chocolate chip waffles. Didn't do the waffle iron any good. Ended up using smaller chips to put on top and letting it sit under a heat lamp for a minute. We also did pecan waffles and bacon waffles.

Was the bacon pre-cooked and added in, or some bizarre method used to properly cook the bacon while in the waffle iron?

(If the former, the bacon probably would not make it to the "add to waffle batter" step in my apartment.)

360 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 5:56:04am

re: #355 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Paschendale is on my main Itunes playlist. Along with "The Trooper" and "Flight of Icarus". :)

Hallowed be thy name, Run To The Hills, The Prisoner...

361 Eventual Carrion  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 5:56:17am

re: #359 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Was the bacon pre-cooked and added in, or some bizarre method used to properly cook the bacon while in the waffle iron?

(If the former, the bacon probably would not make it to the "add to waffle batter" step in my apartment.)

I was thinking pre-cooked and then broken up into the batter (pancake or waffle). I can see that working fairly well. Maybe CCA has a better procedure.

362 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 5:56:20am

re: #359 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Was the bacon pre-cooked and added in, or some bizarre method used to properly cook the bacon while in the waffle iron?

(If the former, the bacon probably would not make it to the "add to waffle batter" step in my apartment.)

A Belgian waffle maker is the kind where you put in the batter and spin (flip) it upside down. Pre-cook the bacon, let cool, chop. Put in bottom of waffle makes, put in batter, spin (flip) and there ya go.

363 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 5:57:12am

re: #360 William Barnett-Lewis

Hallowed be thy name, Run To The Hills, The Prisoner...

Remember Tomorrow, 22 Acacia Avenue, Charlotte the Harlot.

364 darthstar  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 5:57:13am

Mornin' everyone.

Mister Desperate is now tying himself TO President Obama...coattails don't work like that, Mitt.

365 Shropshire_Slasher  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 5:58:21am

Bring your daughter
Bring Your daughter
to the Slauggghhhhter!
Let her go
let her go
let her go.

366 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 5:59:13am

re: #361 Eventual Carrion

I was thinking pre-cooked and then broken up into the batter (pancake or waffle). I can see that working fairly well. Maybe CCA has a better procedure.

With pancakes, put batter on grill (in skillet, whatever) and add stuff to the top. Flip when ready and serve with pancakes upside down to show added ingredients.

367 darthstar  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 6:00:46am
368 Eventual Carrion  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 6:01:24am

re: #366 Cannadian Club Akbar

With pancakes, put batter on grill (in skillet, whatever) and add stuff to the top. Flip when ready and serve with pancakes upside down to show added ingredients.

That's how mom used to do hotdog pancakes. She would make faces with the cut up hotdog. Ahhh younger days.

369 A Mom Anon  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 6:01:26am

Son,reading over shoulder yells "Maidennnnn!",makes Mom spill coffee. Quiet down ya'all,geeze. At least let me drink the first cup in peace. (she says,hearing the kid start up Rock Band in the living room...thanks you troublemakers...)

370 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 6:01:35am

re: #366 Cannadian Club Akbar

With pancakes, put batter on grill (in skillet, whatever) and add stuff to the top. Flip when ready and serve with pancakes upside down to show added ingredients.

Can't do the last part - or they'd see the pieces of added chile pepper...

>:D

371 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 6:02:37am

re: #369 A Mom Anon

Son,reading over shoulder yells "Maidennnnn!",makes Mom spill coffee. Quiet down ya'all,geeze. At least let me drink the first cup in peace. (she says,hearing the kid start up Rock Band in the living room...thanks you troublemakers...)

The evil that Lizards do.

372 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 6:04:06am

re: #369 A Mom Anon

Son,reading over shoulder yells "Maidennnnn!",makes Mom spill coffee. Quiet down ya'all,geeze. At least let me drink the first cup in peace. (she says,hearing the kid start up Rock Band in the living room...thanks you troublemakers...)

I had a T-shirt as a teen. On the front it said "Iron What?" And on the back said "Iron Fucking Maiden, that's what!"

373 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 6:06:20am

Mid life crisis shirts.
/
[Link: www.bandshirtarchive.com...]

374 Shropshire_Slasher  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 6:09:08am

!!!!!!!!!SLAYER!!!!!!!!!!!!

375 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 6:09:36am

re: #374 Shropshire_Slasher

!!!!!!!!!SLAYER!!!!!!!!!!!!

Belching Penguins!!!

376 kirkspencer  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 6:10:45am

re: #347 aagcobb

I was just looking at the Ohio polls at realclearpolitics. They are devastating for Romney, and RCP now rates Ohio as lean Obama, giving him 265 electoral votes, which means that Romney can only win the election outright if he sweeps Nv, Co, Ia, Va, NC, NH and Florida.* He is behind in the RCP average in every single one, even NC. Its beginning to shape up as a landslide Obama victory, unless the trajectory of this race radically changes.

* If Romney wins all of them except NH, they would tie at 269-269, and Romney would probably win in the House.

The way this is shaping up I'm beginning to question whether the House will remain Republican, too. Romney and Ryan are doing an outstanding job of demonstrating just what the GOP platform is, and more than a few representatives are having to explain why they aren't RINOs.

377 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 6:11:13am

[Link: bottomline.nbcnews.com...]

Interesting. If that trend continues with more people moving into the Plains for employment opportunities at what point do the political demographics start to shift?

Also you would have to figure that increased population in those states, especially in small towns, will start increasing pressure on local services and resources along with the need for increased local spending. Plus I am sure that in the long run climate change will play some further havoc as well.

378 AK-47%  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 6:11:44am

re: #373 Cannadian Club Akbar

Mid life crisis shirts.
/
[Link: www.bandshirtarchive.com...]

I am having a midlife t-shirt crisis: not being in a band with t-shirts, I am running out of cool ones to wear, we always used to trade with other bands on tour or at gigs.

Best I can manage are some Guinness t-shirts from the local Irish pub...

379 A Mom Anon  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 6:11:50am

re: #372 Cannadian Club Akbar

Awesome. If I could find one I'd get it for him. He and the Husband went to see them a few months ago when they were in Atlanta. He could talk about nothing else for weeks.

When he was little he had huge sensory integration issues,with light and sound(typical for alot of autistic people). We used metal music as part of his therapy,it obviously worked,lol. Some things still bother him(balloons popping for instance),but if anyone had told me he'd grow up to be a huge metalhead I would have laughed at them.

380 Shropshire_Slasher  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 6:19:40am
381 Shropshire_Slasher  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 6:20:57am

Have to take on the day, I hope to plant a little ditty in your head
382 A Mom Anon  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 6:22:31am

The kid and the husband also have a Sunday tradition. Sat night the husband records That Metal Show on VH1 and on Sunday mornings they watch it while eating breakfast. The family that bangs their heads together stays together I guess,lol.

383 darthstar  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 6:22:48am

"Sweet Jesus"...poor Joe...I don't know if he can take another six weeks of selling Romney.

384 makeitstop  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 6:24:04am

re: #378 AK-47%

I am having a midlife t-shirt crisis: not being in a band with t-shirts, I am running out of cool ones to wear, we always used to trade with other bands on tour or at gigs.

Best I can manage are some Guinness t-shirts from the local Irish pub...

I've got three drawers full of t-shirts - band shirts, bar promos, stuff that I buy at shows. My wife does not understand why I need so many shirts.

385 darthstar  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 6:25:51am

re: #374 Shropshire_Slasher

!!!!!!!!!SLAYER!!!!!!!!!!!!

Image: God_Listens_to_Slayer.jpg

386 SidewaysQuark  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 6:26:28am

re: #338 Obdicut

The Mayans used to blow tobacco smoke up each other's asses. Or their own, if there was no one around to help.

Image: 1155.jpg

Then may this fraternity go extinct, like the Mayans did.

387 aagcobb  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 6:26:40am

re: #376 kirkspencer

The way this is shaping up I'm beginning to question whether the House will remain Republican, too. Romney and Ryan are doing an outstanding job of demonstrating just what the GOP platform is, and more than a few representatives are having to explain why they aren't RINOs.

That would be nice, but a lot of lean GOP districts would have to flip, so its not probable.

388 darthstar  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 6:28:20am

re: #384 makeitstop

I've got three drawers full of t-shirts - band shirts, bar promos, stuff that I buy at shows. My wife does not understand why I need so many shirts.

I've got Grateful Dead t-shirts that go back a over 20 years (hell, it's been 17 since Jerry died). Not to be outdone, one day my wife puts on a Springsteen shirt she's had for over 30.

389 darthstar  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 6:36:37am

Romney, trying to break into the rich, white, golfing demographic, gets endorsed by Jack Nicklaus.

390 kirkspencer  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 6:37:36am

re: #387 aagcobb

That would be nice, but a lot of lean GOP districts would have to flip, so its not probable.

Realistically, the Democrats are going to gain seats. My swag says they're within 10-15 of the balance thanks to the top ticket's performance. The shift is possible, but if it happens it'll be an even slimmer majority.

The interesting thing (IMO) will be the performance of the house next session regardless of who comes on top. That slim of a margin gives extraordinary leverage to small groups of members willing to compromise on this, that, or the other issue. In other words, when it's for their constituents even though it's not what the party line demands. [subcaucus to speaker: put in some of our needs, or we vote for the other team on this issue.]

391 makeitstop  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 6:40:17am

re: #389 darthstar

Romney, trying to break into the rich, white, golfing demographic, gets endorsed by Jack Nicklaus.

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Twenty-somethings all over the country are thinking, 'Who?'

392 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 6:41:28am

re: #390 kirkspencer

Realistically, the Democrats are going to gain seats. My swag says they're within 10-15 of the balance thanks to the top ticket's performance. The shift is possible, but if it happens it'll be an even slimmer majority.

The interesting thing (IMO) will be the performance of the house next session regardless of who comes on top. That slim of a margin gives extraordinary leverage to small groups of members willing to compromise on this, that, or the other issue. In other words, when it's for their constituents even though it's not what the party line demands. [subcaucus to speaker: put in some of our needs, or we vote for the other team on this issue.]

Speaker and the majority still set the agenda though. Expect another thirty repeals of Obamacare by 2014.

393 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 6:42:02am

Good morning lizards!

394 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 6:43:25am

Sad news, Andy Williams has passed away...

Legendary crooner Andy Williams has died

395 darthstar  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 6:44:31am

re: #391 makeitstop

Twenty-somethings all over the country are thinking, 'Who?'

Only "the greatest athlete from the 20th century" according to Romney.

396 makeitstop  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 6:44:36am

re: #388 darthstar

I've got Grateful Dead t-shirts that go back a over 20 years (hell, it's been 17 since Jerry died). Not to be outdone, one day my wife puts on a Springsteen shirt she's had for over 30.

I think the oldest one I've got is an original Stooges 'Funhouse' t-shirt, circa 1970. It's barely hanging together, but I won't part with it until it completely disintegrates.

397 Eventual Carrion  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 6:45:18am

re: #382 A Mom Anon

The kid and the husband also have a Sunday tradition. Sat night the husband records That Metal Show on VH1 and on Sunday mornings they watch it while eating breakfast. The family that bangs their heads together stays together I guess,lol.

I am just starting to teach my youngest guitar. He has 5 years of piano and 2 years of clarinet under his belt, so I think it is time for me to pick things up and teach him guitar. Will be fun.

398 darthstar  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 6:47:05am

re: #395 darthstar

Only "the greatest athlete from the 20th century" according to Romney.

399 darthstar  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 6:48:22am

Oh, man...Andy Williams died.

400 Eventual Carrion  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 6:49:02am

re: #394 NJDhockeyfan

Sad news, Andy Williams has passed away...

Legendary crooner Andy Williams has died

RIP Andy

401 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 6:49:22am

re: #398 darthstar

Maybe greatest female athlete of the 20th century.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

402 aagcobb  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 6:56:14am

re: #389 darthstar

Romney, trying to break into the rich, white, golfing demographic, gets endorsed by Jack Nicklaus.

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That's just sad.

403 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 6:57:12am

re: #402 aagcobb

That's just sad.

I hope footage of Jack yelling at an empty putting green does not suddenly turn up.

404 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 6:59:30am

Riots going on in Greece again...

Greek protest turns violent during anti-austerity general strike, first for new government

ATHENS, Greece — Police clashed with protesters hurling petrol bombs and bottles in central Athens Wednesday after an anti-government rally called as part of a general strike in Greece turned violent.

Riot police used tear gas and pepper spray against several hundred demonstrators after the violence broke out near the country’s parliament. Protesters also set fire to trees in the National Gardens and used hammers to smash paving stones and marble panels to use as missiles against the riot police.

About 50,000 people joined the union-organized march in central Athens on Wednesday, held during a general strike against new austerity measures planned in the crisis-hit country. The action, the first large-scale walk-out since the country’s coalition government was formed in June, closed schools and disrupted flights and most services.

Everyone from shopkeepers and pharmacists to teachers, customs workers and car mechanics joined the demonstration, seen as a test of public tolerance for more hardship after two years of harsh spending cuts and tax hikes.

“People, fight, they’re drinking your blood,” protesters chanted as they banged drums.

405 makeitstop  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 7:00:17am

re: #395 darthstar

Only "the greatest athlete from the 20th century" according to Romney.

There's a line around the block to contest that assertion. Great golfer, but... it's golf.

406 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 7:03:06am

re: #405 makeitstop

There's a line around the block to contest that assertion. Great golfer, but... it's golf.

ESPN apparently did a greatest North American athletes of the century list.

[Link: espn.go.com...]

Jack only made 9th. Jim Thorpe only made 7th - he was robbed...

407 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 7:05:35am

re: #406 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

ESPN apparently did a greatest North American athletes of the century list.

[Link: espn.go.com...]

Jack only made 9th. Jim Thorpe only made 7th - he was robbed...

I will have to say a golfer is more athletic than a jockey.

408 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 7:06:41am

re: #406 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

ESPN apparently did a greatest North American athletes of the century list.

[Link: espn.go.com...]

Jack only made 9th. Jim Thorpe only made 7th - he was robbed...

I walked by him at JFK airport in 1988. It was pretty cool.

409 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 7:08:06am

re: #407 Cannadian Club Akbar

I will have to say a golfer is more athletic than a jockey.

A horse was #35 on the list.

410 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 7:08:10am

re: #407 Cannadian Club Akbar

I will have to say a golfer is more athletic than a jockey.

Willie Shoemaker was on the list. Sorry fr the half post.

411 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 7:08:26am

re: #407 Cannadian Club Akbar

I will have to say a golfer is more athletic than a jockey.

And curling!

412 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 7:10:51am

re: #411 NJDhockeyfan

And curling!

Beer Pong!!

413 Eventual Carrion  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 7:12:10am

re: #412 Cannadian Club Akbar

Beer Pong!!

Throwing darts at the beer pong players.

414 aagcobb  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 7:12:26am

re: #407 Cannadian Club Akbar

I will have to say a golfer is more athletic than a jockey.

As a Kentuckian, I beg to differ.

415 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 7:12:56am

re: #412 Cannadian Club Akbar

Beer Pong!!

Chess!

416 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 7:13:16am

re: #410 Cannadian Club Akbar

Willie Shoemaker was on the list. Sorry fr the half post.

Three auto-racing drivers on the list as well. Just jockeying an auto rather than a horse.

417 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 7:13:34am

I'm going to start calling Mitt "The Iman". It might cause people to think again. Do we want the Christian Version of Iran or do we want sanity?

and how are you-all this morning?

418 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 7:14:29am

re: #416 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Three auto-racing drivers on the list as well. Just jockeying an auto rather than a horse.

Drive 500 miles and tell me how you feel when you're done.

419 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 7:15:12am

My contract on my 3G iPhone is up in December and I was trying to make a decision on which one to get, the 4G or the new 5G. From what I'm reading there seems to be some issues with the 5Gs.

420 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 7:16:02am

re: #408 NJDhockeyfan

I walked by him at JFK airport in 1988. It was pretty cool.

I think the only celebrity I ever interacted with in an airport beyond seeing the odd professional football player was Richard Kiel.

421 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 7:18:01am

re: #418 Cannadian Club Akbar

Drive 500 miles and tell me how you feel when you're done.

Is that more athletic than a jockey or golfer though?

422 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 7:18:28am

re: #420 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

I think the only celebrity I ever interacted with in an airport beyond seeing the odd professional football player was Richard Kiel.

I met Phil Espisito in LAX.

423 kirkspencer  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 7:18:48am

re: #404 NJDhockeyfan

Riots going on in Greece again...

Greek protest turns violent during anti-austerity general strike, first for new government

The Eurozone is suffering from two problems. First, the believers in the austerity fairy are in charge. Second, and massively complicating it, key members have decided there's no need to hang together -- so they will most assuredly hang separately.

424 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 7:19:43am

re: #420 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

I think the only celebrity I ever interacted with in an airport beyond seeing the odd professional football player was Richard Kiel.

In 1980 my brother and I saw Franco Harris at the airport in Pittsburgh on a pay phone. He looked just like himself!

425 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 7:20:11am

re: #421 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Is that more athletic than a jockey or golfer though?

Much harder. There was a race in 2004 (I think). 600 miles. Zero caution flags which means no rest except for pit stops (between 11-17 seconds each). Guys could barely walk when done.

426 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 7:21:40am

re: #423 kirkspencer

The Eurozone is suffering from two problems. First, the believers in the austerity fairy are in charge. Second, and massively complicating it, key members have decided there's no need to hang together -- so they will most assuredly hang separately.

Same thing is happening in Spain today.


At Least 65 Injured as Police Clash with Protesters in Spain

At least 65 people were injured and 27 arrested as baton-wielding police clashed with protesters, who attempted to surround the building of the Spanish parliament in Madrid, local television channels reported.

The violence flared up on Tuesday night after participants of the Occupa el Congresso (Occupy the Congress) movement tried to break through the metal barriers, set by police, and move closer to the parliament’s building.

Television channels reported that 27 policemen, who also fired rubber bullets on protesters, were injured in the clashes, while authorities estimated the total number of protesters at 6,000.

Participants of the movement, which is also known as ‘indignados,’ are protesting against the high level of unemployment in the country, corruption in the current political system and unpopular reformations in economic, educational and health spheres.

427 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 7:22:37am

re: #422 Cannadian Club Akbar

I met Phil Espisito in LAX.

Very cool!

428 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 7:23:51am

re: #427 NJDhockeyfan

Very cool!

I left his autograph on the plane when I got back to Tampa.:( (it was a red-eye flight)

429 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 7:25:56am

This is going to be very popular...

Google Unveils Stunning Underwater 'Street Views' in Maps [PICS]

Google Street View is no longer limited to roads and sidewalks -- now, you can browse stunning panoramic images from under the sea.

With a simple click or swipe, users can explore the subacquatic world, including Australia's Great Barrier Reef, Hawaii's Hanauma Bay and Apo Islands in the Philippines. In total, there are panoramas of six of the ocean's coral reefs.

"We're adding the very first underwater panoramic images to Google Maps, the next step in our quest to provide people with the most comprehensive accurate and usable map of the world," Google announced Tuesday on its official blog. "Now, anyone can become the next virtual Jacques Cousteau and dive with sea turtles, fish and manta rays."

Unfortunately I have to wait until high speed internet comes to my neighborhood.

430 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 7:26:12am

re: #428 Cannadian Club Akbar

I left his autograph on the plane when I got back to Tampa.:( (it was a red-eye flight)

What a drag.

431 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 7:26:22am

re: #419 NJDhockeyfan

My contract on my 3G iPhone is up in December and I was trying to make a decision on which one to get, the 4G or the new 5G. From what I'm reading there seems to be some issues with the 5Gs.

I just traded mine in for the 4Gs. My only complaint is that it is much heavier. I got the refund for $100 because the 5 came out a week later. I could have traded it it, the 5 is much, much lighter, but I'd have to wait for the store to re-stock.

Those that have Siri really like it. I don't like machines talking to me.

432 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 7:27:56am

re: #431 ggt

I just traded mine in for the 4Gs. My only complaint is that it is much heavier. I got the refund for $100 because the 5 came out a week later. I could have traded it it, the 5 is much, much lighter, but I'd have to wait for the store to re-stock.

Those that have Siri really like it. I don't like machines talking to me.

Sorry there, Queenie!!!
//////

433 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 7:28:48am

re: #431 ggt

I just traded mine in for the 4Gs. My only complaint is that it is much heavier. I got the refund for $100 because the 5 came out a week later. I could have traded it it, the 5 is much, much lighter, but I'd have to wait for the store to re-stock.

Those that have Siri really like it. I don't like machines talking to me.

I was going to get a 5G but after reading stuff like this I might just go with the 4G for now.

Another quality control issue hits Apple as iPhone 5 owners report light leaks

In light of all the complaints from customers receiving new iPhone 5 handsets that scratch and scuff easily, it appears another problem is plaguing Apple’s (AAPL) latest product: light leakage. According to MacRumors forum member “Leotno,” some white iPhone 5 models are showing slight light leakage between device’s glass display and chamfered aluminum antenna. BGR has confirmed on one of its own units (see photo below) that there is indeed a small crack on some new iPhone 5 units located just below the power button. It’s uncertain at this point if the issue is an isolated one that affects only some iPhone 5 models or if it’s actually a widespread defect.

The light leak and loosening chamfer on BGR’s defective iPhone 5 was a 64GB white and silver model running on AT&T. The light leak is unnoticeable except when the iPhone 5 is used under low-light or completely dark situations.

Various members on the MacRumors forums have reported the same problem, with some receiving brand new (not refurbished) models as replacements from Apple Stores. One member who goes by the handle “vineetnangia” said the replacement Apple provided still had the same issue.

434 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 7:29:00am

re: #431 ggt

I just traded mine in for the 4Gs. My only complaint is that it is much heavier. I got the refund for $100 because the 5 came out a week later. I could have traded it it, the 5 is much, much lighter, but I'd have to wait for the store to re-stock.

Those that have Siri really like it. I don't like machines talking to me.

But if you talk to them they will show you pictures of cute kittens!

435 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 7:32:12am

Nice...

It took over a year of work, 260,000 images, and 6.3 terabytes of hard drive space, but photographer John Eklund's time-lapse video of the Pacific Northwest has finally begun to make the Internet rounds, even garnering the praise of Tom Lowe, one of the pioneers of the technique.

436 ShaunP  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 7:35:40am

re: #433 NJDhockeyfan

I was going to get a 5G but after reading stuff like this I might just go with the 4G for now.

Another quality control issue hits Apple as iPhone 5 owners report light leaks

Early adopters are always involved in the R&D process. Wait three months and the kinks should be worked out.

For new car designs, I usually wait for the second production year...

437 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 7:36:03am

re: #434 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

But if you talk to them they will show you pictures of cute kittens!

Screen is so small. . .

I don't get how the young people can do all the things they do on their smart phones. I use the internet on my phone for maps, and looking-up phone numbers. Trying to do anything else is just not worth it.

438 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 7:39:06am

re: #436 ShaunP

Early adopters are always involved in the R&D process. Wait three months and the kinks should be worked out.

For new car designs, I usually wait for the second production year...

My friend worked as a tech at a GM dealership (although he was a SAAB tech) and there were 5 service bulletins on the new Camaro (whenever the new design came out) before they were even at the dealership. But they were fixed before being sold.

439 b_sharp  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 7:48:53am

Sneeze and I feel sharp pain in my upper arms. Great.
I hate this getting old shit.

Anyway.
“Canada: Friendly Giant to the North.

440 dragonfire1981  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 7:50:17am

re: #431 ggt

I just traded mine in for the 4Gs. My only complaint is that it is much heavier. I got the refund for $100 because the 5 came out a week later. I could have traded it it, the 5 is much, much lighter, but I'd have to wait for the store to re-stock.

Those that have Siri really like it. I don't like machines talking to me.

So I'm guessing you won't be attending any of Mitt's campaign events then?

441 darthstar  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 7:53:03am

re: #407 Cannadian Club Akbar

I will have to say a golfer is more athletic than a jockey.

The thing about golf is, the better you get, the less athletic you have to be. After all, a low score means you have to swing the club fewer times, and chances are your ball is taking the shortest distance to the pin so you don't have to walk as far away from the cart path.

What I want to know is why they don't have those cute girls with the beer carts driving around PGA tournaments. I know John Daly would appreciate it.

442 Killgore Trout  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 7:54:57am

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad UN Speech LIVE Stream
He's set to speak at 11 am EST which I think is in about 5 minutes

443 b_sharp  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 7:55:46am

Sorry, I didn't realize we'd moved on from Ryan to Siri. We've just traded one automaton for another.

444 dragonfire1981  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 7:56:08am

re: #441 darthstar

The thing about golf is, the better you get, the less athletic you have to be. After all, a low score means you have to swing the club fewer times, and chances are your ball is taking the shortest distance to the pin so you don't have to walk as far away from the cart path.

What I want to know is why they don't have those cute girls with the beer carts driving around PGA tournaments. I know John Daly would appreciate it.

Sarcasm or are you being serious?

445 b_sharp  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 7:56:46am

re: #442 Killgore Trout

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad UN Speech LIVE Stream
He's set to speak at 11 am EST which I think is in about 5 minutes

Who cares what Imanutjob has to say at the UN?

446 b_sharp  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 7:58:33am

re: #441 darthstar

The thing about golf is, the better you get, the less athletic you have to be. After all, a low score means you have to swing the club fewer times, and chances are your ball is taking the shortest distance to the pin so you don't have to walk as far away from the cart path.

What I want to know is why they don't have those cute girls with the beer carts driving around PGA tournaments. I know John Daly would appreciate it.

Most golfers swing from right to left.

447 efuseakay  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 7:58:49am

R/R have no intention of winning. They are just putting on this show to feed red meat to the Teahadis to whip them up in a frenzy the next 4 years. R/R don't plan on getting re-elected either. They know they will make more $$$$$ going on speaking tours. And they will be able to say anything they want, since they won't be holding public office anymore.

448 dragonfire1981  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 7:59:07am

I never thought of Politico as uber-Republican but...

In early August, with our Republican analysis of the POLITICO-George Washington University Battleground Poll, we wrote “… this election will remain close until the final weeks of the campaign. There will be ups and downs for both campaigns throughout the next 13 weeks, but the basic dynamics that are driving this electorate and framing this election remain well in place.” Two conventions, and tens of millions of campaign dollars later, we continue to hold that belief. While there have been dozens of polls released during the past six weeks that have had Mitt Romney up by as much as 4 points and Barack Obama up by as much 8 or 9, those variations have had more to do with sampling variations than with real movement in the campaign.

Yes, there have been gaffes on both sides that have been the focus of both the news media and opposing campaigns, but the dynamics that have been the real drivers of the campaign, the economy and deeply negative feelings about the direction of the country, have not changed. There have also been negative stories about the internal operations, messaging and strategy of both presidential campaigns. In August, leading into the Republican convention, there were multiple stories about the Obama campaign operation and internal fights about both message and strategic direction that led one to believe the wheels were coming off. Now it is the Romney campaign’s turn.

The past several weeks have been filled with news stories, editorials and columns heaping criticism on the tactics and strategy of the Romney campaign. Many of these opinion pieces even suggested that Romney’s only hope for winning is to make substantial changes to his campaign. Much of this analysis is based on the premise that Romney is out of touch and has not been making an affirmative case to middle-class voters. His comments at a private fundraiser in May were pointed to as an illustration that he could never identify with and win the support of many middle-class voters. We took a special look at middle-class voters, and middle-class families in particular, in this latest POLITICO-George Washington University Battleground Poll and found that not to be the case. In fact, on every measure it is Romney who is winning the battle for the support of middle-class families.

I'm curious whether the polling was done before or after the "47%" brouhaha.

Also we are talking the TRUE middle class or Romney's "$200 000 and up" middle class?

449 b_sharp  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 8:02:08am

re: #448 dragonfire1981

I never thought of Politico as uber-Republican but...

I'm curious whether the polling was done before or after the "47%" brouhaha.

Your answer is right there in your post:

"His comments at a private fundraiser in May were pointed to as an illustration that he could never identify with and win the support of many middle-class voters. "

450 jc717  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 8:02:54am

re: #323 Kragar

Meanwhile, 30 years later, Iron Maiden still remains completely awesome.

Iron Maiden- Phantom Of The Opera - 1980

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Saw them live at the MSG during their tour a few years ago. Great show.

451 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 8:05:09am

re: #450 jc717

I saw them with with Queensryche and Rob Halford several years ago. It was one of the best shows I have ever seen.

452 darthstar  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 8:05:27am

re: #444 dragonfire1981

Sarcasm or are you being serious?

A little bit of both. When I first started golfing, my shoulders were killing me by the 14th hole. Now that I 'almost par' most holes, I can play 18 fairly easily. Also, I used to go through about 9 balls in a round. Now I maybe lose 3, and those just because I can't resist taking a mulligan on a water hazard.

453 jc717  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 8:08:32am

re: #451 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I saw them with with Queensryche and Rob Halford several years ago. It was one of the best shows I have ever seen.

Wow, I somehow missed that tour. One of the best shows I've ever seen was Queensryche's Empire tour when they performed Operation Mindcrime in its entirety. Awesome!

454 kirkspencer  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 8:08:45am

re: #445 reflections of a raging redneck

Who cares what Imanutjob has to say at the UN?

Me, for one.

Look, a good third of what he says will be propaganda - meat for his allies, peers, and the people at home. It might even go as much as 2/3.

But the rest is worth paying attention to if for no other reason than trying to understand the enemy. We're not going to eliminate Iran from the face of the earth (if we go to war at all), and knowing something of them reduces the chances of a post-conflict fiasco.

Now I'm going to be listening further because I know both we and they lie. I'm going to identify the differences, try to separate which are viewpoint and which are refutable, and then try to figure out who is lying where.

Oh - case in point on that lying. Iran has made an offer, apparently more than once, to halt 20% enrichment if sanctions are lifted. (see here.) This goes on top of something I recently ran across -- that Iran has converted the majority of its uranium into fuel plates, and the quantity of enrichable uranium available has been decreased. (That's from the IAEA August and May reports, though you have to recognize that enrichable is UF6 and fuel plates are U3O8 and UO2.)

455 Killgore Trout  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 8:09:49am

re: #445 reflections of a raging redneck

Who cares what Imanutjob has to say at the UN?

He's pretty nutty so it should be entertaining.

456 b_sharp  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 8:10:38am

re: #448 dragonfire1981

I never thought of Politico as uber-Republican but...

I'm curious whether the polling was done before or after the "47%" brouhaha.

28.5% of the sample were 'white seniors'.

457 darthstar  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 8:10:56am
458 Killgore Trout  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 8:13:08am

He's talking truther stuff now

459 Ming  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 8:14:26am

The LGF post quotes from [Link: www.politico.com...]

This Politico article says that Romney's Boston brain trust refers to Paul Ryan as "Gilligan". Priceless.

460 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 8:19:32am

Dogs say it's time to go outside and then take a nap.

Have a good one all!

461 bratwurst  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 8:20:14am
462 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 8:20:58am

re: #453 jc717

It was the first tour where bruce was back in the band. It was pure awesome, Halford did a lot of Judas Priest's best stuff and Queensryche did a lot of operation mindcrime but Maiden stole the show. They did so many hits it was like a non-stop assault. Stage-wise there was a giant Iron Maiden with "virgin" girls dancing inside it and the show opened with Sign of The Cross and Bruce being lowered from the rafters crucified.

463 wrenchwench  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 8:21:08am

re: #459 Ming

The LGF post quotes from [Link: www.politico.com...]

This Politico article says that Romney's Boston brain trust refers to Paul Ryan as "Gilligan". Priceless.

464 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 8:24:57am

re: #458 Killgore Trout

He's talking truther stuff now

Has anyone walked out yet?

465 Killgore Trout  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 8:27:16am

re: #464 NJDhockeyfan

Has anyone walked out yet?

US and Israel were scheduled to walk but but I didn't see it.

466 Gus  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 8:29:36am

re: #465 Killgore Trout

US and Israel were scheduled to walk but but I didn't see it.

No walkout because they're not there. They boycotted it instead.

Outrage!

467 Varek Raith  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 8:33:58am

re: #466 Gus

No walkout because they're not there. They boycotted it instead.

Outrage!

That can't be...
I was told Obama supported Islamists.
:/
///

468 Killgore Trout  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 8:36:19am

12th imam prophecies now.

469 Gus  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 8:38:39am
470 Gus  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 8:39:03am
471 aagcobb  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 8:39:07am

Here is a really funny comment on a Nate Silver post about how screwed Romney is:

A few strategies for Romney:

1. Announce that he has a plan to cure cancer, provide free pizza to the masses, and fix NFL referees so they work properly. Provide specifics.

2. Seduce Hillary Clinton. Woo her away from Bill. When she becomes president in 2016, he would be the First Lady. He would thus have slept his way into the Oval Office.

3. Explain that he is the secret author of the Harry Potter series... that that is the true source of his wealth... and furthermore, that it was a memoir, because he actually attended Hogwarts. So if you vote for him, he will cast a spell that will make America better.

4. Find a way to open a window on a plane traveling seven miles over sea level.

472 Interesting Times  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 8:41:20am
474 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 8:45:12am

re: #468 Killgore Trout

12th imam prophecies now.

It wouldn't be a complete speech without mentioning him.

475 Varek Raith  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 8:46:01am

re: #474 NJDhockeyfan

It wouldn't be a complete speech without mentioning him.

Jesus?

Badaboom!

476 Gus  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 8:46:25am

re: #473 Varek Raith

Fox Analyst Bill Cowan: Jews Who Vote For Obama "Can't Be As Close To Israel As We'd Like To Think"

Yes. Because Bill Cowan knows how American Jews should think.

//

477 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 8:46:34am
478 aagcobb  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 8:46:43am

re: #473 Varek Raith

Fox Analyst Bill Cowan: Jews Who Vote For Obama "Can't Be As Close To Israel As We'd Like To Think"

If only Jews loved Israel as much as evangelicals do./

479 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 8:47:34am

re: #473 Varek Raith

Fox Analyst Bill Cowan: Jews Who Vote For Obama "Can't Be As Close To Israel As We'd Like To Think"

Always amusing when the right plays this card. Shows a lot of contempt for the American Jewish community.

480 makeitstop  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 8:47:48am

re: #477 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Romney: Don't expect big tax cuts from me

Unless you're already a millionaire.
/

481 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 8:48:03am

'Iran is under military threat by uncivilized Zionists,' Ahmadinejad before UN General Assembly

Iran is under threat of military action from "uncivilized Zionists," a clear reference to Israel, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said today, saying that such threats are designed to force nations into submission.

"Continued threat by the uncivilized Zionists to resort to military action against our great nation is a clear example of this bitter reality," Ahmadinejad said in a speech before the UN General Assembly.

482 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 8:48:05am

re: #478 aagcobb

If only Jews loved Israel as much as evangelicals do./

Yeah Evangelicals know what's best for Israel and Jews. Why? Because shut up, that's why.

483 Gus  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 8:48:28am

re: #478 aagcobb

If only Jews loved Israel as much as evangelicals do./

They should wear t-shirts that say "I love Israel more than American Jews!"

Derp.

//

484 Varek Raith  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 8:48:43am

re: #482 HappyWarrior

Yeah Evangelicals know what's best for Israel and Jews. Why? Because shut up, that's why.

It's their personal doomsday machine.
Creepy, no?

485 aagcobb  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 8:50:33am

re: #477 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Romney: Don't expect big tax cuts from me

Just because that's what I promised. Mitt should run as the Door No. 2 candidate: "Ignore everything I said, because, heck, I do. Vote for me, because you have a 50/50 chance I'll be the new car instead of a burro."

486 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 8:50:57am

re: #484 Varek Raith

It's their personal doomsday machine.
Creepy, no?

I always thought so. A few generations ago these people were equating Judaism and Marxism. Now they "love" Jews because the state of Israel's existence justifies their doomsday prophecies. It's fucking sick. I'll tell you this much. I support Israel because they've been a strong ally and a democracy in a region lacking that. Some biblical doomsday prophecy that they just could easily use to oppose it? Fuck that.

487 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 8:52:15am

Disgrace at the U.N.

It is hard to know which is the greater affront: Mahmoud Ahmadinejad lecturing the world about the rule of law, as he did at the United Nations on Sept. 24, or Mahmoud Ahmadinejad spewing his anti-Semitic trash on Yom Kippur, as he was scheduled to do before the General Assembly on Sept. 26.

In either case, the U.N. once again demonstrated its institutional contempt for Israel. Year after year, the U.N. has allowed itself to be used as a platform for virulent anti-Semitism, and not all of it from the mouth of Mr. Ahmadinejad. Indeed, the coddling of anti-Semites is one of the U.N.’s most durable traditions—remember that the General Assembly condemned Zionism as a form of racism in the mid-1970s.

That mind-set hasn’t changed much—otherwise the audience for Mr. Ahmadinejad’s diatribes would have disappeared years ago. It hasn’t. Indeed, the fact that he was allowed to speak on the topic of international law should tell us all we need to know about the view of some powerful functionaries at the U.N.

Israel’s U.N. ambassador, Ron Prosor, said that asking Mr. Ahmadinejad to speak about the rule of law was akin to “appointing an arsonist as fire chief.”

But it’s actually worse than that. Somebody at the U.N. clearly is willing to hand this arsonist a few matches. And somebody seems eager to see the results.

Israel has known for years that it should expect nothing but insults from the U.N. General Assembly. Still, it is imperative to remind fair-minded people in the U.S. and elsewhere of this ongoing outrage.

489 Gus  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 8:58:44am

re: #487 NJDhockeyfan

Disgrace at the U.N.

I'm sure this person has a deep seated hatred for the UN already. Right now, by allowing Ahmadinejad to speak it allows the world to see what a crazy man he really is. Otherwise, most people would think he is a benign character minding his own business in Tehran.

Edit.

This is an editorial from the New York Observer and not a single author.

490 blueraven  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 9:00:10am

re: #466 Gus

No walkout because they're not there. They boycotted it instead.

Outrage!

If the freaking cable news networks would not give him air time, no one would ever hear his speech. Why do they do this year after year?
Piers Morgan and others scramble for "exclusive" interviews.

We should totally ignore him.

491 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 9:00:31am

re: #489 Gus

I'm sure this person has a deep seated hatred for the UN already. Right now, by allowing Ahmadinejad to speak it allows the world to see what a crazy man he really is. Otherwise, most people would think he is a benign character minding his own business in Tehran.

It was by giving him a big bully pulpit that he made the famous Iranian homosexuality comment I believe. I think that was at Columbia University.

492 Gus  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 9:01:00am

re: #490 blueraven

If the freaking cable news networks would not give him air time, no one would ever hear his speech. Why do they do this year after year?
Piers Morgan and others scramble for "exclusive" interviews.

We should totally ignore him.

I don't think we should ignore him.

493 blueraven  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 9:02:42am

re: #492 Gus

I don't think we should ignore him.

Not ignore him...but his same lame ass UN speech every year. We give it more importance than it deserves.

494 Gus  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 9:04:06am

re: #493 blueraven

Not ignore him...but his same lame ass UN speech every year. We give it more importance than it deserves.

It gives us the opportunity to ridicule him. This is his last "speech."

495 sattv4u2  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 9:04:35am

re: #489 Gus

by allowing Ahmadinejad to speak it allows the world to see what a crazy man he really is

This isn't his 1st speech there, and at least one other that I can recall was much more inflammatory

most people would think he is a benign character minding his own business in Tehran.
Many already do, both here at home and abroad.

496 sattv4u2  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 9:05:46am

re: #494 Gus

It gives us the opportunity to ridicule him. This is his last "speech."

If I were sitting in the hall while he was speaking, I'd have a full arsenal of spitballs and a laser pointer!!
/

497 Killgore Trout  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 9:06:30am

re: #490 blueraven

If the freaking cable news networks would not give him air time, no one would ever hear his speech. Why do they do this year after year?
Piers Morgan and others scramble for "exclusive" interviews.

We should totally ignore him.

He is the spokesman for a country with a nuclear program that repeatedly vows to destroy Israel and sponsors world wide terrorist operations. Ignoring him isn't really an option. The mullahs in Iran and the decisions they make may significantly shape the world we live in. It is kind of important.

498 Gus  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 9:06:58am

re: #495 sattv4u2

by allowing Ahmadinejad to speak it allows the world to see what a crazy man he really is

This isn't his 1st speech there, and at least one other that I can recall was much more inflammatory

most people would think he is a benign character minding his own business in Tehran.
Many already do, both here at home and abroad.

I know that most Iranians don't think he should be ignored. We'll probably see some big change in Iran come next years. In which direction we never can tell. The ayatollahs probably have their puppet candidate all lined up.

499 Killgore Trout  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 9:07:15am

re: #495 sattv4u2

This isn't his 1st speech there, and at least one other that I can recall was much more inflammatory

It seemed a fairly tame speech to me too.

500 sattv4u2  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 9:07:32am

re: #488 Killgore Trout

Savages!

'Iran is under military threat by uncivilized Zionists,'

He continued

"Thats why we have our agents attacking the zionists pizza parlors. We know they're plotting to bomb us with pepperonni"

501 Gus  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 9:08:36am
502 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 9:09:45am

re: #498 Gus

I know that most Iranians don't think he should be ignored. We'll probably see some big change in Iran come next years. In which direction we never can tell. The ayatollahs probably have their puppet candidate all lined up.

I assume they'd want someone more low key. Who knows though.

503 blueraven  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 9:10:12am

re: #497 Killgore Trout

He is the spokesman for a country with a nuclear program that repeatedly vows to destroy Israel and sponsors world wide terrorist operations. Ignoring him isn't really an option. The mullahs in Iran and the decisions they make may significantly shape the world we live in. It is kind of important.

And this speech gives us more information about that?
We dont seek out other leaders at the UN like some sort of prize.

We legitimize and encourage his crap by making such a big deal over his words.

504 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 9:10:14am

re: #501 Gus

well, considering it's entirely plausible then yeah a lot didn't pick up on it.

505 Gus  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 9:11:13am

re: #504 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

well, considering it's entirely plausible then yeah a lot didn't pick up on it.

The world awaits.

//

506 Gus  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 9:11:29am
507 wrenchwench  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 9:11:56am

My favorite video that has Andy Williams in it.

RIP

508 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 9:12:29am

To me the real interesting thing in Iran will be to see what happens when Khamenei dies. I believe his son is next in line for the supreme leader spot. And if I recall, Khamenei is only the second supreme leader to have run the country outside of Khomeini. I wouldn't be shocked if there was a second Iranian revolution eventually.

509 sattv4u2  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 9:12:42am

re: #498 Gus

I know that most Iranians don't think he should be ignored. We'll probably see some big change in Iran come next years. In which direction we never can tell. The ayatollahs probably have their puppet candidate all lined up.

The only way we'll see a change is if the mullahs are overthrown.
The only way the mullahs will be overthrown is with an internal uprising (with huge covert help from "the west")
The only way there'll be huge covert help from the west ,,,,,,,,

(we've seen this movie before)

510 Mocking Jay  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 9:13:37am

re: #506 Gus

[Embedded content]

I really hope he answers because I have no friggin' clue. Could easily go either way...

511 blueraven  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 9:14:51am

re: #506 Gus

[Embedded content]

I didn't read it as total satire, but one with plenty of snark.

512 Killgore Trout  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 9:17:08am

re: #509 sattv4u2

The only way we'll see a change is if the mullahs are overthrow.
The only way the mullahs will be overthrown is with an internal uprising (with huge covert help from "the west")
The only way there'll be huge covert help from the west ,,,,,,,,

(we've seen this movie before)

I don't think the mullahs will last much longer. Looking back at the Arab spring the real driving force is the global economy and food prices. People get pissed at the failures of their authoritarian governments and throw them out. The situation with the economy and food prices isn't getting any better and hopefully the economic sanctions will push them over the edge soon. There aren't many open signs of unrest these days but I'm sure the situation is still simmering.

513 Lidane  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 9:17:13am
514 Gus  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 9:19:34am

re: #511 blueraven

I didn't read it as total satire, but one with plenty of snark.

Charles and others mentioned that this is probably a "parody" or in this case satire. It does make some people look a little silly if they're running with a satirical report and start writing things like "Name-calling begins as reported rift opens between ‘Stench’ Romney and ‘Gilligan’ Ryan."

515 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 9:21:07am

re: #512 Killgore Trout

I don't think the mullahs will last much longer. Looking back at the Arab spring the real driving force is the global economy and food prices. People get pissed at the failures of their authoritarian governments and throw them out. The situation with the economy and food prices isn't getting any better and hopefully the economic sanctions will push them over the edge soon. There aren't many open signs of unrest these days but I'm sure the situation is still simmering.

Yeah, I think the economy will prove their ultimate undoing. I believe Ahmadinjad derided economics as being for donkeys. Hey, it's a dry subject but a nation's economic well being is tied to political stability as well. Makes it to me a similar situation that happened in the Eastern bloc in the 80's.

516 sattv4u2  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 9:21:24am

re: #512 Killgore Trout

There aren't many open signs of unrest these days but I'm sure the situation is still simmering.

Simmering, yes. And it may even boil over. BUT, does the citizenry have the wherewithal to take on the army and the rulers

517 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 9:23:39am

re: #516 sattv4u2

There aren't many open signs of unrest these days but I'm sure the situation is still simmering.

Simmering, yes. And it may even boil over. BUT, does the citizenry have the wherewithal to take on the army and the rulers

If I recall the '79 Revolution correctly, a big part in its eventual success was that the Army abandoned the Shah. There was something similar in the Russian Revolution sixty two years prior too.

518 sattv4u2  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 9:24:02am

And on that note, the second phase of Day Of Errands beckons

519 sattv4u2  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 9:25:30am

re: #517 HappyWarrior

If I recall the '79 Revolution correctly, a big part in its eventual success was that the Army abandoned the Shah. There was something similar in the Russian Revolution sixty two years prior too.

True, so the key is will the military abandon the mullahs. As in North Korea with Lil Gargoyle Sr. Jr, and the Turd, I think not
As stated, without significant help from outside, the citizens don't have the "oomph"

520 Varek Raith  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 9:27:22am

re: #519 sattv4u2

True, so the key is will the military abandon the mullahs. As in North Korea, I think not
As stated, without significant help from outside, the citizens don't have the "oomph"

Because it worked out so well the last time we did that in Iran...

521 sattv4u2  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 9:28:30am

re: #520 Varek Raith

Because it worked out so well the last time we did that in Iran...

see paragraphed phrase at the end of #509

522 Killgore Trout  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 9:30:32am

re: #514 Gus

Charles and others mentioned that this is probably a "parody" or in this case satire. It does make some people look a little silly if they're running with a satirical report and start writing things like "Name-calling begins as reported rift opens between ‘Stench’ Romney and ‘Gilligan’ Ryan."

I don't think it really makes much difference if it's satire, parody, joke out of context or completely made up. It's unimportant and trivial and people are going to spread the story and feign outrage regardless of truth anyways. It's just part of the noise machine.

523 Killgore Trout  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 9:32:10am

re: #516 sattv4u2

There aren't many open signs of unrest these days but I'm sure the situation is still simmering.

Simmering, yes. And it may even boil over. BUT, does the citizenry have the wherewithal to take on the army and the rulers

No, it's going to require support from the military and maybe a few well placed reformer clergy and politicians. When people start to see the inevitable on the horizon they'll start to flip sides.

524 Obdicut  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 9:33:46am

re: #522 Killgore Trout

Where do you get the 'outrage' from? Who is going to be outraged?

That is quickly becoming the most over-used word in politics today.

525 makeitstop  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 9:38:38am

re: #524 Obdicut

Where do you get the 'outrage' from? Who is going to be outraged?

That is quickly becoming the most over-used word in politics today.

Like I said last night - Laughter is the new Outrage.

526 Mocking Jay  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 9:38:41am

Troutrage!

527 Varek Raith  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 9:39:45am

Satire of Mohammed - A ok!
Satire of Ryan - OUTRAGE!

528 Gus  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 9:40:20am

Politico’s Paul Ryan Satire: The Joke’s on Them

...

As Ben Smith of Buzzfeed, a former Politico blogger, tweeted: "So uh a lot of people seem not to have picked up that @politicoroger's column was satire." Put more succinctly by conservative blogger JammieWearingFool: "Satire should actually be funny."

...

I almost lost my breakfast. JammieWearingFool putting something succinctly? LOL I read that more like butthurt.

529 wrenchwench  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 9:40:37am

re: #526 Mocking Jay

Troutrage!

A meme is born.

530 Gus  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 9:42:16am

re: #528 Gus

Politico’s Paul Ryan Satire: The Joke’s on Them

I almost lost my breakfast. JammieWearingFool putting something succinctly? LOL I read that more like butthurt.

531 Varek Raith  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 9:43:08am

Wingnuts wouldn't know satire if it kicked them in the nads.

532 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 9:45:19am

re: #531 Varek Raith

Wingnuts wouldn't know satire if it kicked them in the nads.

Oh come on, Fox's response to the Daily Show was brilliant satire that Jonathan Swift would have envied.

533 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 9:45:47am

re: #524 Obdicut

Where do you get the 'outrage' from? Who is going to be outraged?

That is quickly becoming the most over-used word in politics today.

You just have to mentally replace it with "I'm trolling" every time you see it in a KT post.

534 Obdicut  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 9:45:57am

re: #531 Varek Raith

Wingnuts wouldn't know satire if it kicked them in the nads.

Wingnuts wouldn't know satire if it cleverly illustrated their foibles through the use of inversion, hyperbole, and wit.

535 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 9:47:05am

re: #534 Obdicut

Wingnuts wouldn't know satire if it cleverly illustrated their foibles through the use of inversion, hyperbole, and wit.

See Colbert, Stephen.

536 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 9:49:17am

re: #535 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

See Colbert, Stephen.

When his show was new, there were actually people out there who thought that Stephen was this great new, conservative talk show host. I mean goddamn, I'm the one with the condition that in part makes it hard to tell he's joking and even I knew he was obviously satirizing the O'Reillys of the world. Reminds me but I miss Better Know a District. Does he still do those? I got a chuckle when he asked Barney Frank if he was openly left handed.

537 Mocking Jay  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 9:50:07am

re: #536 HappyWarrior

When his show was new, there were actually people out there who thought that Stephen was this great new, conservative talk show host. I mean goddamn, I'm the one with the condition that in part makes it hard to tell he's joking and even I knew he was obviously satirizing the O'Reillys of the world. Reminds me but I miss Better Know a District. Does he still do those? I got a chuckle when he asked Barney Frank if he was openly left handed.

He still does them every now and then.

538 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 9:50:34am

re: #537 Mocking Jay

He still does them every now and then.

Ah sweet.

539 Gus  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 9:50:38am

If anything I found the possibility of Paul Ryan joking about some character named "Stench" to be rather humanizing.

540 Varek Raith  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 9:51:21am

re: #539 Gus

If anything I found the possibility of Paul Ryan joking about some character named "Stench" to be rather humanizing.

OUTRAGE

541 Killgore Trout  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 9:51:30am

Fake story is fake
No, Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney Haven't Resorted To Calling Each Other Nasty Names

The nasty nicknames were quickly picked up by a number of other sources and reported as fact. The only problem, of course, is that Simon's column was a satire. How do we know? (Other than by reading the column in full.) We asked him. His emailed response: "I figured describing PowerPoint as having been invented to euthanize cattle would make the satire clear. I guess people hate PowerPoint more than I thought."

What fake story are we going to fall for today?

542 wrenchwench  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 9:52:10am

re: #541 Killgore Trout

Fake story is fake
No, Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney Haven't Resorted To Calling Each Other Nasty Names

What fake story are we going to fall for today?

re: #526 Mocking Jay

Troutrage!

543 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 9:54:13am

re: #536 HappyWarrior

When his show was new, there were actually people out there who thought that Stephen was this great new, conservative talk show host. I mean goddamn, I'm the one with the condition that in part makes it hard to tell he's joking and even I knew he was obviously satirizing the O'Reillys of the world. Reminds me but I miss Better Know a District. Does he still do those? I got a chuckle when he asked Barney Frank if he was openly left handed.

From what I read, there are still people out there who think that Colbert is really a deep-cover conservative who is putting one over on the liberals by pretending to be satirizing the conservative beliefs he actually holds.

544 erik_t  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 9:54:21am

re: #541 Killgore Trout

What fake story are we going to fall for today?

That we care what you find to be outrageously outrageous.

It'll be tough to pull that one off, I admit...

545 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 9:56:47am

re: #543 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

From what I read, there are still people out there who think that Colbert is really a deep-cover conservative who is putting one over on the liberals by pretending to be satirizing the conservative beliefs he actually holds.

That's priceless.

546 Mocking Jay  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 9:56:51am

re: #541 Killgore Trout

Fake story is fake
No, Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney Haven't Resorted To Calling Each Other Nasty Names

What fake story are we going to fall for today?

It's Troutrageous!

547 Varek Raith  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 9:57:10am

re: #541 Killgore Trout

Fake story is fake
No, Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney Haven't Resorted To Calling Each Other Nasty Names

What fake story are we going to fall for today?

Who's we?
That strawman behind you?

548 Shropshire_Slasher  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 9:59:02am

Sufferen Succotash!

549 Decatur Deb  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 10:02:10am

re: #541 Killgore Trout

Fake story is fake
No, Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney Haven't Resorted To Calling Each Other Nasty Names

What fake story are we going to fall for today?

Give him time, there's 41 days to go and they're travelling together now.

550 Gus  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 10:03:13am

This was me being outraged last night.

551 blueraven  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 10:04:27am

Even Gallup has Obama over Romney by 6 points now (50/44)
and Obama's job approval over 50% (51/43)

[Link: www.gallup.com...]

552 Kragar  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 10:05:30am

re: #541 Killgore Trout

Fake story is fake
No, Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney Haven't Resorted To Calling Each Other Nasty Names

What fake story are we going to fall for today?

I would say it has to be at least as true as Obama being a Kenyan Muslim Socialist. When wingnuts stop making the one claim, I'll be happy to drop this one.
///

553 Someone Please Beam Me Up!  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 10:05:55am

re: #536 HappyWarrior

When his show was new, there were actually people out there who thought that Stephen was this great new, conservative talk show host. I mean goddamn, I'm the one with the condition that in part makes it hard to tell he's joking and even I knew he was obviously satirizing the O'Reillys of the world.

I've always thought that's why he was asked to speak at the Correspondents' Dinner.

554 Lidane  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 10:06:08am
555 Kragar  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 10:06:46am

re: #554 Lidane

[Embedded content]

Just like government safety regulations and unions!
/

556 Gus  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 10:07:12am

re: #552 Kragar

I would say it has to be at least as true as Obama being a Kenyan Muslim Socialist. When wingnuts stop making the one claim, I'll be happy to drop this one.
///

Paul Ryan is the Antichrist who will bring about the second Ottoman Empire and the destruction of the USA and Agenda 21 to the universe!

//

557 blueraven  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 10:07:45am

re: #541 Killgore Trout

Fake story is fake
No, Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney Haven't Resorted To Calling Each Other Nasty Names

What fake story are we going to fall for today?

Not fake...satire
The fact that people took it as totally straight reporting speaks volumes about this campaign.

558 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 10:13:36am

re: #541 Killgore Trout

Fake story is fake
No, Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney Haven't Resorted To Calling Each Other Nasty Names

What fake story are we going to fall for today?

40% of the population will fall for whatever one Rush Limbaugh makes up today.

560 Decatur Deb  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 10:14:23am

We have reached Peak Bacon:

[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]

561 Gus  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 10:14:47am

re: #560 Decatur Deb

We have reached Peak Bacon:

[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]

Peak bacon is a lie!

562 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 10:14:56am

re: #396 makeitstop

I think the oldest one I've got is an original Stooges 'Funhouse' t-shirt, circa 1970. It's barely hanging together, but I won't part with it until it completely disintegrates.

Way late back to the thread, the oldest I have is from The Clash when Sandinista! came out. It's pretty raggedy and much too small to fit me anymore. I have hope my son will complete wearing it out though :)

563 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 10:15:24am

re: #560 Decatur Deb

We have reached Peak Bacon:

[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]

I hear long pig futures are up.

564 Decatur Deb  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 10:16:06am

re: #563 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

I hear long pig futures are up.

You are who you eat.

565 makeitstop  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 10:16:45am

re: #563 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

I hear long pig futures are up.

Pigs may disagree.

566 Decatur Deb  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 10:17:38am

re: #561 Gus

Peak bacon is a lie!

We sprinkle a teaspoon on the dog's gunk to help him get it down. Doggie is SOL.

567 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 10:18:28am

re: #563 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

I hear long pig futures are up.

Soylent Green is long pig!

568 Gus  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 10:18:58am

re: #566 Decatur Deb

We sprinkle a teaspoon on the dog's gunk to help him get it down. Doggie is SOL.

The Japanese have come up with a synthetic bacon made of human poop!

//

569 CuriousLurker  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 10:19:14am

re: #541 Killgore Trout

Fake story is fake
No, Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney Haven't Resorted To Calling Each Other Nasty Names

What fake story are we going to fall for today?

We? Speak for yourself.

I don't know if this is a parody, but it's too hilarious to check.

He was right. It was funny because it was like Poe's law. Which reminds me of a page I need to make soon....

570 Lidane  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 10:19:46am

re: #557 blueraven

Not fake...satire
The fact that people took it as totally straight reporting speaks volumes about this campaign.

Exactly.

The story is from Politico. When's the last time anyone said that they read Politico for their sharp political satire? It's one thing for people to fall for an Onion story. THAT is stupid. But to read a Politico story that sounds plausible enough? It's not surprising that anyone would think it was real.

571 simoom  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 10:20:04am

re: #557 blueraven

Not fake...satire
The fact that people took it as totally straight reporting speaks volumes about this campaign.

It isn't even that. It's a pretty big screw-up on Politico's part. The story was filed under their "politicsnews" section, and not their "opinion" section, or even better would have been a new satire section if they're going to do stuff like this. Nowhere did they mark it as parody. Finally it was written by someone who's part of their listed reporters, whose title is "Chief Political Columnist."

572 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 10:20:29am

Romney cooties will be a political death sentence after the election. Note how two term GOP president W. Bush has vanished from sight. He was a successful candidate, but not quite tea party approved. How much worse will it be for a loser like Romney, who was radioactive to start with by tea party standards?

573 Decatur Deb  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 10:21:12am

re: #568 Gus

The Japanese have come up with a synthetic bacon made of human poop!

//

Any idea how the Enterprise's replicator worked?

574 Killgore Trout  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 10:22:33am

Here's a list of the most notable dupes
Sorry, But Mitt Romney's Nickname Is Not “The Stench”
MSNBC, DKOS, mediaite are to be expected. Paul Krugman fell for it too.

575 Kragar  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 10:22:35am

re: #573 Decatur Deb

Any idea how the Enterprise's replicator worked?

They engaged the FM circuitry.

576 Targetpractice  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 10:23:04am

re: #573 Decatur Deb

Any idea how the Enterprise's replicator worked?

Depends, how technical do you want me to get?

577 Decatur Deb  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 10:23:33am

re: #576 Targetpractice

Depends, how technical do you want me to get?

'Depends'--you got it.

578 Gus  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 10:23:48am

re: #574 Killgore Trout

Here's a list of the most notable dupes
Sorry, But Mitt Romney's Nickname Is Not “The Stench”
MSNBC, DKOS, mediaite are to be expected. Paul Krugman fell for it too.

Ergo everything Paul Krugman says is a lie!

//

579 Kragar  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 10:24:15am

re: #578 Gus

I FUCKING KNEW IT!
/

580 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 10:24:28am

re: #573 Decatur Deb

Any idea how the Enterprise's replicator worked?

IIRC, sort of like the transporter, but the form was imposed from a stored pattern rather than derived from a transported object. There was a matter store somewhere that the replicator used as source material. As for the source of the matter in the matter store, that's up to your imagination.

581 Targetpractice  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 10:25:23am

re: #577 Decatur Deb

'Depends'--you got it.

Heh. Basically, it's an off-shoot of transporter technology. Except, instead of moving an object from point A to point B, it just takes raw materials and materializes them using a pre-programmed template.

582 Decatur Deb  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 10:25:32am

re: #580 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

IIRC, sort of like the transporter, but the form was imposed from a stored pattern rather than derived from a transported object. There was a matter store somewhere that the replicator used as source material. As for the source of the matter in the matter store, that's up to your imagination.

Gets us back to poop-bacon.

583 Targetpractice  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 10:25:55am

re: #580 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

IIRC, sort of like the transporter, but the form was imposed from a stored pattern rather than derived from a transported object. There was a matter store somewhere that the replicator used as source material. As for the source of the matter in the matter store, that's up to your imagination.

Ah, so you're fluent in technobabble.

584 engineer cat  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 10:27:08am

stench

the story may be satire but the nickname will stick

585 Killgore Trout  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 10:28:06am

Q: Knock, knock!
Romney : Who's there?
MSNBC: Romney doesn't get joke! Thinks someone is at his door!
/get it? lol

586 Kragar  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 10:28:06am

Romney To Small Businesses: ‘Don’t Be Expecting A Huge Cut In Taxes’

Mitt Romney told voters in Westerville, Ohio on Wednesday not to expect a “huge cut in taxes” from his economic proposal, noting that he is “also gonna get rid of deductions and exemptions.” The message is at odds with the GOP nominee’s promises to cut taxes for the middle class and small businesses, while maintaining the current tax burden on the rich.

ROMNEY: Number 5, I’m going to champion small business. Small business, where jobs come from. And let me tell you how to do that. One, as Sen. Portman said, we’ve got to reform our tax system. Look, small businesses typically pay tax at the individual tax rate. And so, our individual income taxes are ones I want to reform, make them simpler. I want to bring the rates down. By the way, don’t be expecting a huge cut in taxes, because I’m also going to lower deductions and exemptions. But by bringing rates down, we’ll be able to let small businesses keep more of their money, so they can hire more people.

Why would a business owner hire more people when his customers won't have enough money to buy more goods and services?

587 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 10:28:08am

re: #584 engineer cat

588 Decatur Deb  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 10:28:13am

re: #584 engineer cat

stench

the story may be satire but the nickname will stick

When it comes to nicknames for manly-men, "Stench" is better than "Mitt".

589 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 10:28:32am

Hmm, is it getting desperate enough for the Romneybot to activate the Queeg 500 program and attempt to turn his campaign around by banning all free-loading and making everyone work to eat?

590 wrenchwench  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 10:29:00am

re: #588 Decatur Deb

When it comes to nicknames for manly-men, "Stench" is better than "Mitt".

He will eMitt a stench.

591 Lidane  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 10:30:00am

re: #574 Killgore Trout

And I'll ask again -- when was the last time that anyone said they read Politico for their satire?

It was written by their Chief Political Columnist and wasn't in the op-ed or marked as satire anywhere. It was posted in their politics section. Sounds like the fault lies with Politico for not making it clear from the start it was satire, not with anyone who "fell for it".

592 simoom  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 10:32:52am

re: #571 simoom

Update to the bottom of Simon's story just added:

[Link: www.politico.com...]

[Author’s note: Jonathan Swift did not really want Irish people to sell their children for food in 1791; George Orwell did not really want the clocks to strike thirteen in 1984; Paul Ryan, I am sure, calls Mitt Romney something more dignified than “Stench” and Microsoft did not invent PowerPoint as a means to euthanize cattle. At least I am pretty sure Microsoft didn’t.]

Now it needs a second update with a general apology to Politico's readership.

593 BeenHereAwhile  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 10:40:38am

re: #332 Decatur Deb

re: #329 Cannadian Club Akbar

$150M-$250M in MNF bets shifted
[Link: espn.go.com...]
Sucks to be them. And I doubt there will/can be any lawsuits.

No suits--broken kneecaps maybe.

The NFL follows the local betting line in all team cities, as well as Las Vegas to check for potential fixes.

A rogue game official is the NFL's worst nightmare, so having replacement referees (albeit having passed intensive background investigations) must be giving the league office pause.

594 b_sharp  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 10:43:33am

re: #574 Killgore Trout

Here's a list of the most notable dupes
Sorry, But Mitt Romney's Nickname Is Not “The Stench”
MSNBC, DKOS, mediaite are to be expected. Paul Krugman fell for it too.

You're implying people believed it because they are overtly biased and want it to be true, but you're ignoring the character of the Republican campaign which makes it believable.

595 BeenHereAwhile  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 10:45:19am

re: #354 Eventual Carrion

re: #353 Cannadian Club Akbar

I've made chocolate chip waffles. Didn't do the waffle iron any good. Ended up using smaller chips to put on top and letting it sit under a heat lamp for a minute. We also did pecan waffles and bacon waffles.

Bacon waffles sound interesting. Could also do that with pancakes I would guess. Might have to spring that on the boy this weekend.

Try using fresh (you did cook bacon right?) bacon grease instead of butter or cooking oil in the pancake batter.

Yummy!!

596 Charles Johnson  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 10:48:24am

re: #541 Killgore Trout

Fake story is fake
No, Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney Haven't Resorted To Calling Each Other Nasty Names

What fake story are we going to fall for today?

Speak for yourself. I didn't "fall for" anything.

597 BeenHereAwhile  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 11:05:14am

re: #418 Cannadian Club Akbar

re: #416 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Three auto-racing drivers on the list as well. Just jockeying an auto rather than a horse.

Drive 500 miles and tell me how you feel when you're done.

Drive 500 miles, with an average heart rate of 180 beats per minute, while head, arms, torso and legs are subjected to up to 4 Gs of force.

If your head with helmet weighed 13 lbs, at 4 Gs your head would weight 52 lbs.

598 Majacita  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 11:11:03am

re: #12 Charles Johnson

You did say it might be a parody, but I confess, I read the story and after seeing Romney and Ryan in Vandalia I thought it was probably true. This campaign is too crazy to parody.

599 Eventual Carrion  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 1:02:55pm

re: #581 Targetpractice

Heh. Basically, it's an off-shoot of transporter technology. Except, instead of moving an object from point A to point B, it just takes raw materials and materializes them using a pre-programmed template.

Or the receiver on the other side just uses quantum entanglement to be the exact duplicate of the original.

600 Joanne  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 4:14:15pm

re: #125 dragonath

Tommy Thompson was gov of Wisconsin and set very severe restrictions on welfare.

601 MPH  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 6:54:45pm

re: #21 dragonath

Haha, this reads like an Onion article.

But! This makes Ryan look like even more of an ass than Romney, which I didn't think was possible.

All this article really proves is that reporters, bloggers, and political partisans who really want to believe something will assume that thing is true, without caution or fact checking. This phenomenon is not unique to those biased to leftist politics. This is a bi-partisan poison -- as laid out by Aaron Powell and Trevor Burrus at Cato in their essay "Politics Makes Us Worse" [Link: www.libertarianism.org...]

This behavior, while appalling, shouldn’t surprise us. Psychologists have shown for decades how people will gravitate to group mentalities that can make them downright hostile. They’ve shown how strong group identification creates systematic errors in thinking. Your “teammates” are held to less exacting standards of competence, while those on the other team are often presumed to be mendacious and acting from ignoble motives. This is yet another way in which politics makes us worse: it cripples our thinking critically about the choices before us.

602 Obdicut  Wed, Sep 26, 2012 9:21:19pm

re: #601 MPH

The problem here is mainly that it came from a straight news source, with nothing about it except the basic unlikelihood to mark it as satire.


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