The Obama campaign’s new ad is almost unbelievably brutal because it plays Mitt Romney’s own secretly recorded words, juxtaposed with images of the people he was casually dismissing. This was the real Romney, comfortable among his super-rich peers, letting his guard down and saying what he really believes.
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Decatur Deb Thu, Sep 27, 2012 11:48:03am |
"I'm Barack Obama and I dedicate this message to punk-ass James O'Keefe."
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SpaceJesus Thu, Sep 27, 2012 11:51:31am |
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Tigger2 Thu, Sep 27, 2012 11:51:50am |
Romney and the Republican Politicians are on the most part their own worst enemies because of what come out of their mouths.
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Coracle Thu, Sep 27, 2012 11:52:13am |
A pretty damning analysis from Maddow.
Romney leaves up ads that have been proven false, despite saying the correct or remove things that aren't true. When called on it, he reiterates the falsehood that got him in trouble.
Alternatively, he'll say something, stake out a position (often a new one), and his campaign will pretty much immediately walk it back afterward, quietly, without saying even that it was a change of position, or even that he misspoke.
She gives ample examples of both.
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]
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makeitstop Thu, Sep 27, 2012 11:54:50am |
That is a damned powerful ad. I approve of this message, too.
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Mr. Crankypants Thu, Sep 27, 2012 11:55:33am |
Tre: #4 Coracle
A pretty damning analysis from Maddow.
Romney leaves up ads that have been proven false, despite saying the correct or remove things that aren't true. When called on it, he reiterates the falsehood that got him in trouble.
Alternatively, he'll say something, stake out a position (often a new one), and his campaign will pretty much immediately walk it back afterward, quietly, without saying even that it was a change of position, or even that he misspoke.
She gives ample examples of both.
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]
It's pretty obvious that he talks out of his ass and both sides of his mouth at the same time.
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Decatur Deb Thu, Sep 27, 2012 11:58:40am |
re: #2 SpaceJesus
Samuel L Jackson: "Wake the Fuck Up For Obama"
[Embedded content]
Our GOTV run into Florida on Sat is led by the pastor of a small black Alabama church. He's awake enough, I think.
I'll save this for my kid in Hillsboro.
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Ming Thu, Sep 27, 2012 11:58:50am |
Romney's incessant lying, and for that matter Ryan's incessant lying, are absolutely consistent with how they really feel about millions of their fellow Americans. They really don't like the "you-people" very much. So why not lie to us? To them, it's like lying to a tree: of no particular significance.
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Sophist, Gingham Style Thu, Sep 27, 2012 12:01:08pm |
"New Obama Campaign Ad Uses Mitt Romney’s Own Words"
Is there no dirty trick Obama won't stoop to in order to win reelection?
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Kragar Thu, Sep 27, 2012 12:01:21pm |
Romney's biggest problem, which he simply can't talk his way out of, explain away, or cover up, is that he is a complete dick.
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Kragar Thu, Sep 27, 2012 12:02:35pm |
Akin: McCaskill Wasn’t ‘Ladylike’ In Debate
“I think we have a very clear path to victory, and apparently Claire McCaskill thinks we do, too, because she was very aggressive at the debate, which was quite different than it was when she ran against Jim Talent,” Akin said. “She had a confidence and was much more ladylike (in 2006), but in the debate on Friday she came out swinging, and I think that’s because she feels threatened.”
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Thu, Sep 27, 2012 12:02:42pm |
re: #10 Kragar
Romney's biggest problem, which he simply can't talk his way out of, explain away, or cover up, is that he is a complete dick.
Romney just needs to come up and present the proper situation where being a complete dick is preferable in a Chief Executive rather than having Obama there.
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Sheila Broflovski Thu, Sep 27, 2012 12:04:24pm |
re: #11 Kragar
I have figured out the problem with Todd Akin. He is a time traveler who has been propelled into the future from the year 1840.
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HappyWarrior Thu, Sep 27, 2012 12:05:10pm |
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Kragar Thu, Sep 27, 2012 12:05:24pm |
re: #12 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste
Romney just needs to come up and present the proper situation where being a complete dick is preferable in a Chief Executive rather than having Obama there.
I can picture Romney coming out and giving the "Dicks, Pussies, and Assholes" speech from Team America.
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HappyWarrior Thu, Sep 27, 2012 12:05:34pm |
re: #14 Sheila Brovlofski
I have figured out the problem with Todd Akin. He is a time traveler who has been propelled into the future from the year 1840.
1840 BC, right?
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A Mom Anon Thu, Sep 27, 2012 12:05:44pm |
re: #11 Kragar
What a freaking asshole. How's that for ladylike Todd?
There's really no corner of Hell deep,dark or awful enough for these freaking butt muffins.
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Sheila Broflovski Thu, Sep 27, 2012 12:07:08pm |
re: #17 HappyWarrior
1840 BC, right?
I can totally see him coming from 1840's slave-owning Missouri.
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Interesting Times Thu, Sep 27, 2012 12:08:52pm |
re: #15 HappyWarrior
He should just be happy she agreed to date his sorry sexist ass.
Ouch, what did McCaskill ever do to deserve a typo like that? ;)
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Gus Thu, Sep 27, 2012 12:13:06pm |
Oh. My. God. RT @suewinma: This is what Scott Brown's racist campaign has brought to Massachusetts >> PHOTO twitter.com/BettysBoomin/s...#masen— Danielle Blake (@DCPlod) September 27, 2012
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Kragar Thu, Sep 27, 2012 12:15:09pm |
Falwell Jr. Says Trump's Convocation was 'Probably the Best one in the History of the School'
As we have noted over the last few days, there has been a bit of confusion over the remarks that Donald Trump recently delivered at Liberty University when he told the students at this Christian university: "Don't let people take advantage; get even!"
Trump, of course, is standing by his remarks and so is Liberty University, as chancellor and president Jerry Falwell Jr. told Newsmax that Trump's Convocation speech was "probably the best one in the history of the school" and that his message of "get even" was not "contrary to what Jesus taught at all"
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steve_davis Thu, Sep 27, 2012 12:15:45pm |
You may remember you heard it here first!! Of course, with that video to work with, I'm guessing it didn't exactly take a genius to figure out how to put the response together.
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Varek Raith Thu, Sep 27, 2012 12:15:51pm |
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General Nimrod Bodfish Thu, Sep 27, 2012 12:15:57pm |
re: #21 Gus
Wow, there's just no way Brown can spin that. Disgusting.
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Sheila Broflovski Thu, Sep 27, 2012 12:15:59pm |
#ObamaPhone is the latest WTF wingnut hashtag.
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Interesting Times Thu, Sep 27, 2012 12:16:05pm |
re: #21 Gus
I like her follow-up:
Scott Brown: allegedly moderate Republican, confirmed racist bastard.— Danielle Blake (@DCPlod) September 27, 2012
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A Mom Anon Thu, Sep 27, 2012 12:16:56pm |
re: #21 Gus
Holy Freaking Crap. What the hell is wrong with these freaking people?
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Mocking Jay Thu, Sep 27, 2012 12:17:00pm |
re: #26 Sheila Brovlofski
#ObamaPhone is the latest WTF wingnut hashtag.
Oh, you mean those phones that telcos give away because they make money on the airtime?
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Varek Raith Thu, Sep 27, 2012 12:17:31pm |
re: #29 Mocking Jay
Oh, you mean those phones that telcos give away because they make money on the airtime?
Another one bites the dust!
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Interesting Times Thu, Sep 27, 2012 12:17:44pm |
re: #14 Sheila Brovlofski
I have figured out the problem with Todd Akin. He is a time traveler who has been propelled into the future from the year 1840.
Akin was more gentlemanly before he started downplaying rape. RT: @fixaaron: Akin Says McCaskill Was More 'Ladylike' in 2006 Campaign— Jamison Foser (@jamisonfoser) September 27, 2012
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General Nimrod Bodfish Thu, Sep 27, 2012 12:18:08pm |
re: #28 A Mom Anon
Modern conservatism, that's what's wrong with them.
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steve_davis Thu, Sep 27, 2012 12:19:04pm |
re: #18 A Mom Anon
What a freaking asshole. How's that for ladylike Todd?
There's really no corner of Hell deep,dark or awful enough for these freaking butt muffins.
Fortunately, in a legitimate election, the voters have a way of shutting that whole thing down.
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ShaunP Thu, Sep 27, 2012 12:20:39pm |
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dragonfire1981 Thu, Sep 27, 2012 12:21:18pm |
re: #21 Gus
[Embedded content]
Grotesquely insensitive and offensive.
It's rather pitiful the way we treat Native peoples because of course they were here FIRST. That should count for something don't you think?
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Gus Thu, Sep 27, 2012 12:21:42pm |
re: #27 Interesting Times
I like her follow-up:
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lawhawk Thu, Sep 27, 2012 12:24:06pm |
Nate Silver confirms that Obama's got a distinct advantage in the polls that were released yesterday but still not clear whether that will translate into election day. He also goes into how Rassmussen has been leaning GOP counter to other polls, but Rassmussen gives Romney a 2 point advantage, even as Rassmussen has the worst record of any pollster since the 2010 cycle (they were pretty good in 2006 and 2008, but did poorly in both 2000 and 2010).
I'd counter by noting that if Obama's leading in places like Iowa in the polling then it could reflect actual voting, since the polls are now open in Iowa. Obama's advantage in Iowa as compared to 2008 isn't nearly as strong, but that doesn't mean Romney will make up the difference.
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dragonfire1981 Thu, Sep 27, 2012 12:24:17pm |
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erik_t Thu, Sep 27, 2012 12:26:22pm |
re: #38 dragonfire1981
That's the same guy that had this Obama billboard up on his property.
Classy shithead.
(I can still say shithead, right?)
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Hercules Grytpype-Thynne Thu, Sep 27, 2012 12:27:22pm |
Obama took Romney's words out of context, just the way that early Romney ad took Obama's words "If we talk about the economy, we lose" out of context!
The context of Romney's words was that he didn't want anyone not in that room to know what he really thinks of them.
///
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Bulworth Thu, Sep 27, 2012 12:29:34pm |
his message of "get even" was not "contrary to what Jesus taught at all"
Sigh. This is below rock-bottom. We've entered "digging our way to China" level.
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Someone Please Beam Me Up! Thu, Sep 27, 2012 12:30:09pm |
re: #38 dragonfire1981
That's the same guy that had this Obama billboard up on his property.
This was used about George W. Bush. Can't they find something new to say?
/
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MittDoesNotCompute Thu, Sep 27, 2012 12:31:41pm |
re: #11 Kragar
Akin wants to debate someone who he can bully and steamroller, not someone who can give just as much as they get.
Fuck you, Todd, because even Jim Talent isn't as big of a no-talent (pun intended) assclown as you are.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Thu, Sep 27, 2012 12:31:49pm |
re: #41 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne
Obama took Romney's words out of context, just the way that early Romney ad took Obama's words "If we talk about the economy, we lose" out of context!
The context of Romney's words was that he didn't want anyone not in that room to know what he really thinks of them.
///
But by current context we shouldn't take Romney words spoken there as standing for what he stands for anyways. Just like the GOP platform doesn't represent the Romney campaign, or what Ryan says about Medicare or balancing the budget does either. We're past the Looking Glass here folks and I'm surprised that Romney is not sitting on top of a brick wall for most of his speeches and fundraising events.
/
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jvic Thu, Sep 27, 2012 12:34:14pm |
The Obama campaign’s new ad is almost unbelievably brutal because it plays Mitt Romney’s own secretly recorded words, juxtaposed with images of the people he was casually dismissing.
Brutal but fair. Romney's remark is unbelievably stupid. Among that 47% are people who would have been receptive to voting for Romney.
At this time Romney is on course to displace Tom Dewey from the history books.
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Bulworth Thu, Sep 27, 2012 12:35:45pm |
Trump, of course, is standing by his remarks and so is Liberty University, as chancellor and president Jerry Falwell Jr. told Newsmax
Let's see what we have here...Donald Birther Trump, Liberty University, Jerry Falwell Jr, Newmax...
The unholy quadrangle of Derp.
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Mich-again Thu, Sep 27, 2012 12:35:46pm |
I picked a good day to play hooky. Got to watch my Tigers finish the sweep of Kansas City to go up 1-1/2 games over the Chisox and see Doug Frister strike out 9 batters in a row which by the way broke the Tiger's club record and American League record for most consecutive K's in a game. Might just be peaking at the right time here..
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Gus Thu, Sep 27, 2012 12:36:20pm |
Gah. Freaking mouse is stalling again. Time for reinstall freaking Firefox. bbl
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Kragar Thu, Sep 27, 2012 12:37:17pm |
How The Tea Party Hopes To Purge Thousands of Ohio Voters
Members of an Ohio tea party group are taking it upon themselves to individually police alleged voter fraud, launching challenges to a targeted list of voters that includes hundreds of college students, trailer park residents, homeless people and African Americans in counties President Obama won in 2008. In all, the group has sought to remove from the voter rolls at least 2,100 registrations in 13 Ohio counties, nine of which Obama won in 2008, according to the Los Angeles Times.
The alleged perpetrators of this voter fraud include Lori Monroe, a 40-year-old recovering from cancer, whose apartment for the past seven years was allegedly listed as a commercial property; and eight members of an African American family, whose four-bedroom home where the family has lived since the 1980s was allegedly listed as a vacant lot. The group has also focused on challenging college students for failure to specify a dorm room number, a claim that every election board has thus far found invalid.
The group behind this crusade has dubbed itself the Ohio Voter Integrity Project, an offshoot of Texas-based True the Vote, which champions voter purges and voter ID laws and has been building a “poll watcher” network, an effort documented by Colorlines’ Brentin Mock:
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Decatur Deb Thu, Sep 27, 2012 12:39:26pm |
If you take Mr Jackson's advice, this dashboard tool is the key to finding local GOTV. It's really amazing to peel down through it and see the depth of preparation the Dems have put into the ground campaign. Entering zipcodes takes you to activity in all the battlefield states.
[Link: dashboard.barackobama.com...]
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Mich-again Thu, Sep 27, 2012 12:39:57pm |
re: #47 jvic
Among that 47% are people who would have been receptive to voting for Romney.
The sample size is so large that the political breakdown of the 47% would match precisely that of the entire country.
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Bulworth Thu, Sep 27, 2012 12:40:18pm |
The group behind this crusade has dubbed itself the Ohio Voter Integrity Project, an offshoot of Texas-based True the Vote, which champions voter purges and voter ID laws and has been building a “poll watcher” network, an effort documented by Colorlines’ Brentin Mock:
I just don't understand how a political party comprised of such illustrious patriots is losing.
//
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Targetpractice Thu, Sep 27, 2012 12:40:52pm |
re: #51 Kragar
Is it any wonder that folks don't think their vote matters when you've got these sorts of dipshits out there, banging on drums and screaming at the top of their voices that voter fraud is running rampant?
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MittDoesNotCompute Thu, Sep 27, 2012 12:40:54pm |
re: #51 Kragar
The group behind this crusade has dubbed itself the Ohio Voter Integrity Project, an offshoot of Texas-based
TrueScrew the Vote, which champions voter purges and voter ID laws and has been building a “poll watcher” network, an effort documented by Colorlines’ Brentin Mock:
FTFT...
/fucking assholes
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Interesting Times Thu, Sep 27, 2012 12:42:03pm |
RT @srwhofficial Legitimate rape, legitimate Indians, legitimate voters, legitimate unemployed, legitimate religion. Could be a pattern here— Dave McW (@DaveMc99TA) September 27, 2012
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Ming Thu, Sep 27, 2012 12:42:32pm |
re: #12 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste
Romney just needs to come up and present the proper situation where being a complete dick is preferable in a Chief Executive rather than having Obama there.
That's what he did in the Republican primaries.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Thu, Sep 27, 2012 12:43:28pm |
re: #47 jvic
The Obama campaign’s new ad is almost unbelievably brutal because it plays Mitt Romney’s own secretly recorded words, juxtaposed with images of the people he was casually dismissing.
It's also unbelievably stupid. Among that 47% are people who would have been receptive to voting for Romney.
At this time Romney is on course to displace Tom Dewey from the history books.
Not quite. Dewey was up on Truman in the Gallup polls by 17% or so in late September. Romney has never achieved any sort of meaningful lead on Obama. (Also, the Democratic Party is also not currently in a three-way split with far left and far right candidates running independent campaigns as well.)
That Romney is running a cold, distant, and based on platitudes campaign is dead-on though.
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Decatur Deb Thu, Sep 27, 2012 12:43:43pm |
re: #53 Mich-again
The sample size is so large that the political breakdown of the 47% would match precisely that of the entire country.
It includes the elderly social security demographic, the major group that went for McCain in 2008.
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engineer cat Thu, Sep 27, 2012 12:44:39pm |
Frank says:
Sometimes you got to get sick before you can feel better.
after my divorce, i was thinking - to be reborn, unfortunately, you have to die first
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dragonfire1981 Thu, Sep 27, 2012 12:45:44pm |
re: #42 Bulworth
Sigh. This is below rock-bottom. We've entered "digging our way to China" level.
Where is that "Get even" quote from?
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dragonfire1981 Thu, Sep 27, 2012 12:46:59pm |
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Decatur Deb Thu, Sep 27, 2012 12:48:32pm |
re: #63 dragonfire1981
As I said earlier, I'm pretty sure stuff like this is only the beginning.
Anyone have fresh discussions of electronic voting machine issues?
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engineer cat Thu, Sep 27, 2012 12:51:15pm |
re: #47 jvic
Among that 47% are people who would have been receptive to voting for Romney
but the romney voters don't reason in a connected way to come to a logical conclusion
in the famous 47% quote, romney says flat out that he thinks that all - all! - the people who don't pay income tax are dependent government and don't take responsibility for their lives. he flat out says that that's what he thinks of everybody in his 47%
but you can read the freepers rationalizing it to themselves: they don't make enough to pay income tax, but they don't feel like they are dependent on government, and they take responsibility for their own lives, so they must not be the people that romney was talking about
except of course they are
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Kragar Thu, Sep 27, 2012 12:51:25pm |
re: #63 dragonfire1981
As I said earlier, I'm pretty sure stuff like this is only the beginning.
The Voter ID lies are the flip side to all the Republicans getting caught in absentee ballot fraud scams.
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engineer cat Thu, Sep 27, 2012 12:53:15pm |
re: #51 Kragar
i foresee angry arguments at voting booths across the country on election day
"i don't care what you say, I. AM. NOT. DEAD!!!"
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darthstar Thu, Sep 27, 2012 12:55:35pm |
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Eventual Carrion Thu, Sep 27, 2012 12:56:54pm |
re: #11 Kragar
Or maybe because you fight assholes differently then you fight respectable people. Like the difference between fighting in a controlled, sportsman like way if in the boxing ring to fighting for your life in a back alley with a drug crazed brain-dead lunatic.
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engineer cat Thu, Sep 27, 2012 12:57:16pm |
Republican Party Officially Renamed Banana Republicans
will look to relocate in countries more receptive to message of more jobs through lower wages and benefits
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Targetpractice Thu, Sep 27, 2012 12:59:23pm |
Hide yo kids, hide yo wives, the Great and Evil Soros has spent money on the election!//
Report: George Soros Donates $1 Million To Democratic Super PAC
Billionaire financier George Soros is donating $1 million to Priorities USA, a super PAC supporting President Obama's re-election, according to the New York Times. He plans on giving another $500,000 to Democratic super PACs aimed at winning House and Senate races. Previously Soros had indicated he planned to remain on the sidelines in 2012 when it came to funding partisan groups.
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AK-47% Thu, Sep 27, 2012 12:59:29pm |
re: #70 engineer cat
Republican Party Officially Renamed Banana Republicans
will look to relocate in countries more receptive to message of more jobs through lower wages and benefits
and laxer safeety, environmental and financial reporting standards...
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William Barnett-Lewis Thu, Sep 27, 2012 1:00:20pm |
re: #22 Kragar
Falwell Jr. Says Trump's Convocation was 'Probably the Best one in the History of the School'
Sweet Jesus that garbage is straight out of conservawiki (or whatever that was called).
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engineer cat Thu, Sep 27, 2012 1:01:04pm |
re: #72 AK-47%
and laxer safeety, environmental and financial reporting standards...
democrats should have a slogan like
Don't Let Republicans Turn America into Costa Rica!
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makeitstop Thu, Sep 27, 2012 1:04:36pm |
re: #71 Targetpractice
Hide yo kids, hide yo wives, the Great and Evil Soros has spent money on the election!//
Report: George Soros Donates $1 Million To Democratic Super PAC
1.5 mil? Small potatoes! How much has Shel Adelson ponied up to date?
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Targetpractice Thu, Sep 27, 2012 1:06:35pm |
re: #75 makeitstop
1.5 mil? Small potatoes! How much has Shel Adelson ponied up to date?
No shit. I think most of Romney's supporters make Soros look like a piker. But I figure since the wingnuts are gonna scream that he "bought" the election anyway, he might as well at least put a few buck in the tip jar.
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jvic Thu, Sep 27, 2012 1:09:47pm |
re: #59 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste
Not quite. Dewey was up on Truman in the Gallup polls by 17% or so in late September. Romney has never achieved any sort of meaningful lead on Obama. (Also, the Democratic Party is also not currently in a three-way split with far left and far right candidates running independent campaigns as well.)
Per my Pat Caddell link, I was thinking of the vulnerability of the incumbent and not the polls. You're correct anyway.
I'm retreating to Romney is on track to join Tom Dewey in the history books.
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