Sunday Open Thread, With New Twitter Username

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I hereby declare the Sunday afternoon open thread to be a tradition.

And this is also a good time to let you folks know that I changed my Twitter username from @Lizardoid to @Green_Footballs, to make things a little more consistent and professional-like.

If you’re following my Twitter account, you don’t need to do anything; all the followers and other settings are preserved when you change your username. Just to make everything nice and neat, though, I also registered a new account with the name @Lizardoid and put a notice on its profile page about the new username, in case anyone has linked to the old profile address.

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175 comments
1 wrenchwench  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 3:31:59pm
Scientist of love.

How do you get that new header thingy? Do I have to have a slogan? Or is it only for those with over 5,000 followers?

@Lizardoid hasn't tweeted yet.

Nice retroactivity there.

2 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 3:33:24pm

I do not tweet but that looks like a very nice page.

3 Charles Johnson  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 3:33:51pm

re: #1 wrenchwench

How do you get that new header thingy? Do I have to have a slogan? Or is it only for those with over 5,000 followers?

Nice retroactivity there.

You can upload an image for the new header by going to your 'Edit Profile' page and clicking the 'Design' tab.

4 Stanghazi  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 3:33:58pm

OK, this brings me back to the "little green footballs" story.

I vote boogers. Sorry!

5 Charles Johnson  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 3:34:46pm

re: #4 We're All Welfare Queens Now

Nope, not even close. And it's nothing to do with drugs either.

6 Stanghazi  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 3:37:39pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

Nope, not even close. And it's nothing to do with drugs either.

PHEW!

7 wrenchwench  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 3:38:04pm

Done, except the text is on top of the flower. Back to the drawing board image files.

8 Iwouldprefernotto  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 3:38:33pm

Congratulations.

You know, if you are Jewish, in 8 days you have cut off a piece of your new username.

9 Stanghazi  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 3:38:35pm

One day, some obscure day, some obscure post I hope to have the mystery solved.

10 wrenchwench  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 3:40:43pm

Better.

11 engineer cat  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 3:40:53pm

re: #9 We're All Welfare Queens Now

One day, some obscure day, some obscure post I hope to have the mystery solved.

i have a notion that if i ever found out it i would regret it

12 Gus  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 3:41:19pm

How do you get that new look on Twitter?

13 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 3:41:36pm

re: #10 wrenchwench

Very nice background. :)

14 Charles Johnson  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 3:41:58pm

re: #7 wrenchwench

Done, except the text is on top of the flower. Back to the drawing board image files.

Yeah, it's a little tricky to design it so it works with the white text that Twitter overlays on the image. I'm still playing with it myself.

15 wrenchwench  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 3:44:05pm

re: #12 Gus

How do you get that new look on Twitter?

See #3.

16 Interesting Times  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 3:45:07pm
17 Gus  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 3:47:29pm

re: #15 wrenchwench

See #3.

Thanks. Let me give it a shot.

18 Interesting Times  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 3:49:50pm
19 Charles Johnson  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 3:49:54pm

By the way, once you choose the new header style, you now have it forever. You apparently can't go back to the old style.

If you delete your header image, it just uses a default gray-scale gradient image from then on. There's no going back.

20 Gus  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 3:50:17pm

re: #15 wrenchwench

See #3.

Done!

21 wrenchwench  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 3:50:59pm

re: #19 Charles Johnson

By the way, once you choose the new header style, you now have it forever. You apparently can't go back to the old style.

If you delete your header image, it just uses a default gray-scale gradient image from then on. There's no going back.

Now you tell me!!!

22 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 3:51:26pm

re: #20 Gus

looks good. :)

23 Gus  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 3:52:06pm

re: #22 PhillyPretzel

looks good. :)

Thanks. Water droplets!

24 Charles Johnson  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 3:52:06pm

Looks like all new accounts start out with the new header style too. The @Lizardoid account is using the default gray-scale image.

25 Gus  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 4:04:21pm

The right-wing sure has found their niche in propaganda films this year.

26 Turkey Jihad  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 4:05:36pm

It may have taken me longer than most to come around to the fact that the right wing had completely gone Titanic and was taking on water rapidly, but then I looked around da internets to see what all the RWNJs were hot and bothered about with these so-called porn shots of Obama's mother and such.

And my family wonders why I will never, ever have any affiliation with the Republican Party under any circumstances for the rest of my years on this planet Earth.

27 Turkey Jihad  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 4:06:26pm

re: #25 Gus

The right-wing sure has found their niche demise in propaganda films this year.

28 jaunte  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 4:10:09pm

re: #26 Kid A

Via: Dumbest Man On The Internet:
Image: hoftderp7-17-12.jpg

29 Turkey Jihad  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 4:10:24pm

re: #25 Gus

The right-wing sure has found their niche in propaganda films this year.

D'Souza's "film" was on a screen here (The Woodlands, TX.) for eight weeks. Eight fucking weeks that propaganda was filling the house at each screening. Not that it matters much electorally (it is Texas), but it says a lot about our current political climate. I'm convinced that the rage towards Obama is going to be a lot, LOT worse after the election when Obama wins. Not if Obama wins, but when Obama wins.

30 Gus  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 4:10:27pm

Their latest film is entitled "Träume von Meinem Leiblichen Vater".

//

31 Varek Raith  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 4:11:06pm

re: #30 Gus

There latest film is entitled "Träume von Meinem Leiblichen Vater".

//

Ich bin ein Berliner!

32 Gus  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 4:11:09pm

re: #29 Kid A

D'Souza's "film" was on a screen here (The Woodlands, TX.) for eight weeks. Eight fucking weeks that propaganda was filling the house at each screening. Not that it matters much electorally (it is Texas), but it says a lot about our current political climate. I'm convinced that the rage towards Obama is going to be a lot, LOT worse after the election when Obama wins. Not if Obama wins, but when Obama wins.

They did that to Bush too.

//

33 jaunte  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 4:13:50pm
34 OhNoZombies!  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 4:16:29pm

re: #33 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Too late.
They inhaled...deeply.
Cocaine Derp is a powerful drug !!!

35 Gus  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 4:17:11pm
36 Political Atheist  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 4:17:41pm

Sunday afternoon photo... Just for a pleasant break.

Image: Donna_8406-001.jpg

37 Lidane  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 4:17:48pm

re: #34 Reverend Mother Ramallo

Too late.
They inhaled...deeply.
Cocaine Derp is a powerful drug !!!

I was about to say the same thing.

The GOP got high on their own supply ages ago. Faux News and the RWNJ talk radio and blog bubble ensure that derp addicts always have their next fix.

38 jaunte  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 4:18:56pm

Complete Implosion!
-- Alternate Epistemic Universe

39 Lidane  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 4:18:58pm

Churches to Obama: Tax Us, We Dare You

On Sunday, October 7, pastors around the country will try to bait the federal government into investigating them by preaching explicitly partisan sermons. As part of a conservative movement organizers call “Pulpit Freedom Sunday,” some religious leaders will endorse Mitt Romney from the pulpit. Others may refrain from an endorsement but vigorously criticize President Obama. And some will tell their congregations that a good Christian can only vote for a candidate who opposes gay marriage and abortion. Then they’ll send tapes of their sermons to the Internal Revenue Service in the hopes of being audited.

The point of this exercise—now in its fifth year—is twofold. Federal law prohibits tax-exempt organizations from participating in partisan politicking, and conservative activists want to invite an investigation by the IRS so they can challenge the law in court. And if an audit of churches by the IRS provides fuel for the charge that the Obama administration is waging a war on religion, then all the better.

40 jaunte  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 4:19:46pm

Reality Unskewed

41 Interesting Times  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 4:20:01pm

re: #35 Gus

Lying of the AG Stuff we pull out of our asses over Fast & Furious will cause complete implosion totally drummed-up impeachment of a second Obama administration if GOP keeps House and gets Senate.

Now it's accurate.

42 Gus  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 4:22:07pm

Republicans have taken to crumpling up wads of paper towels soaked in water and seeing which ones stick to the restroom walls.

//

43 Stanghazi  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 4:22:58pm

re: #39 Lidane

Churches to Obama: Tax Us, We Dare You

They think its a dare against Obama, but it's really a dare against the fucking United States of America.

Obama hate is waaaay easier.

44 jaunte  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 4:27:22pm

re: #39 Lidane

That's a bad idea on their part.

7.02[4] Conspiracy
The statute of limitations for a conspiracy to evade taxes under the
offense clause of section 371 is six years. Similarly, the statute of
limitations for a Klein conspiracy under the defraud clause of
section 371 is six years.
...(snip)...
The statute of limitations in a conspiracy begins to run from the date
of the last overt act proved. Grunewald v. United States, 353 U.S.
391, 397 (1957). The government, however, is not required to prove that
each member of a conspiracy committed an overt act within the statute of
limitations.
[Link: www.justice.gov...]

45 Killgore Trout  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 4:27:26pm

re: #25 Gus

The right-wing sure has found their niche in propaganda films this year.

I was thinking about this from the previous thread. They're just ripping off Michael Moore's gimmick of propaganda films for election season. If Breitbart was still alive it would probably be even worse.
It is an interesting loophole in election year finance. Even without Citizen's United all you have to do is make a crappy political film and presto! Unlimited campaign commercial spending with no accountability. You gotta hand it to him, it was a clever loophole and somebody was bound to discover it sooner or later.

46 Lidane  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 4:29:29pm

re: #44 jaunte

That's a bad idea on their part.

Let them do it. If these churches want to play politics, let them pay their admission fees like everyone else.

47 engineer cat  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 4:31:12pm

predictions for the next few weeks

"ignore what the talking heads say, romney really won the debate"

"we won't know the real impact of the debates for a week or so, and then we'll see that romney's pulled ahead"

"any day now a devastating video will come out and destroy the obama campaign"

48 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 4:31:48pm

There has been a 7.1 magnitude earthquake in Columbia. I just posted a page on it. [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

49 OhNoZombies!  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 4:32:48pm

re: #47 engineer cat

predictions for the next few weeks

"ignore what the talking heads say, romney really won the debate"

"we won't know the real impact of the debates for a week or so, and then we'll see that romney's pulled ahead"

"any day now a devastating video will come out and destroy the obama campaign"

Still waiting on Michelle's 'YT' tape...
3.5 years and counting...

50 freetoken  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 4:33:56pm

re: #47 engineer cat

Also see from yesterday:

NBC Chris Hayes: The Republican bubble trap

[Link: video.msnbc.msn.com...]

51 Gus  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 4:34:02pm

Oops. Mis-dinging there. Fixed.

52 Stanghazi  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 4:37:31pm

re: #50 freetoken

Also see from yesterday:

NBC Chris Hayes: The Republican bubble trap

[Link: video.msnbc.msn.com...]

My Yellow Dog Dem Aunt Joan always calls me & my Dad on Saturday.

WE'VE LOST HER TO UP WITH CHRIS.

She loves it, she apologizes, but what's important is important. She loves the show.

53 Gus  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 4:39:03pm

Yeah. I remember how Michael Moore's "Fahrenheit 9/11" was mailed out to more than 1 million swing state voters in 2004 and was also highly promoted by DNC members.

//

54 Stanghazi  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 4:39:59pm

re: #53 Gus

Yeah. I remember how Michael Moore's "Fahrenheit 9/11" was mailed out to more than 1 million swing state voters in 2004 and was also highly promoted by DNC members.

//

dont go there. trolling for attention. again

55 Bubblehead II  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 4:43:45pm

Evening Lizards.

Waves at Frodo

56 freetoken  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 4:45:47pm

Candidates Mum on Climate Change

MP3 Audio

There will be no (active) "climate policy".

57 freetoken  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 4:46:48pm

Graffiti under attack:

8,000-year-old rock carvings under threat of destruction

58 Stanghazi  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 4:49:20pm

re: #50 freetoken

Also see from yesterday:

NBC Chris Hayes: The Republican bubble trap

[Link: video.msnbc.msn.com...]

He rocked.

59 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 4:50:21pm

re: #45 Killgore Trout

"Hold me closer Magic Balance Fairy
Count the headlights on the highway
Lay me down in sheets of linen
you had a busy day today"

60 jaunte  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 4:53:09pm

Idaho lawmaker's wife hurt in gun room explosion

Burley Fire Chief Keith Martin said the couple was eating dinner when the explosion occurred. Amy Wood was on the back patio — which is directly over the gun room — and the blast apparently caused the slab to collapse into the room below.

No EMP-proof garbage cans were reported damaged.

61 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 4:53:13pm

re: #57 freetoken

Graffiti under attack:

8,000-year-old rock carvings under threat of destruction

That is unacceptable. The hooligans should be found and made to sandblast and paint over their graffiti. No, no don't tell me they'd be 8,000 years old. That's no excuse.

62 Killgore Trout  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 4:53:23pm

re: #53 Gus

Yeah. I remember how Michael Moore's "Fahrenheit 9/11" was mailed out to more than 1 million swing state voters in 2004 and was also highly promoted by DNC members.

//

I think it was still in theaters at the time. I think he tried to have it shown on TV but it was rejected. As for promotion by the Dems:
Image: jimmy_carter_michael_moore.jpg
He was a well honored guest at the 2004 convention. He didn't get a speech but there was plenty of camera time.

63 Gus  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 4:54:11pm

re: #62 Killgore Trout

I think it was still in theaters at the time. I think he tried to have it shown on TV but it was rejected. As for promotion by the Dems:
Image: jimmy_carter_michael_moore.jpg
He was a well honored guest at the 2004 convention. He didn't get a speech but there was plenty of camera time.

No way. You just used the Jimmy Carter meme!

64 wrenchwench  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 4:55:21pm

re: #59 William Barnett-Lewis

"Hold me closer Magic Balance Fairy
Count the headlights on the highway
Lay me down in sheets of linen
you had a busy day today"

Tiny Dancer?

65 Killgore Trout  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 4:57:28pm

Interesting. Michael Moore even tried to make a documentary about his 2004 swing state tour promoting Fahrenheit 9/11
MICHAEL MOORE TEAMS UP WITH BRAVE NEW FILMS TO RELEASE HIS NEW MOVIE AS FREE INTERNET DOWNLOAD, AIMED AT HELPING MOBILIZE FOR ’08 ELECTION

Four years ago, the premiere of Moore’s groundbreaking film ‘Fahrenheit 9/11’ shook up the 2004 election. Moore embarked on a 62-city swing state tour to register new voters and turn them out to the polls. ‘Slacker Uprising’ documents the most inspiring, dramatic and frightening moments of that historic event. Moore expects the new film to inspire young people to turn out to vote, just as the tour itself did in the last presidential election.

66 Killgore Trout  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 4:58:08pm

re: #63 Gus

No way.

Way.

67 OhNoZombies!  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 4:58:25pm

re: #63 Gus

No way. You just used the Jimmy Carter meme!

OK. Time to put up my K-T boundary.

68 freetoken  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 4:58:39pm

Japan introduces piracy penalties for illegal downloads

Japan-based internet users who download copyright infringing files face up to two years in prison or fines of up to two million yen ($25,700; £15,900) after a change to the law.

[...]

The Japan Federation of Bar Associations, a group representing legal professionals, also issued a statement saying the offence should have remained a civil, rather than criminal, matter.

"Treating personal activities with criminal punishments must be done very cautiously, and the property damage caused by individual illegal downloads by private individuals is highly insignificant," it said.

However, the efforts did not sway the politicians.

[...]

69 Gus  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 4:58:44pm

Big Government MBF

70 jaunte  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 4:59:19pm

Romney Aides "Pretty Resigned" to Losing

...Despite the fact that Romney has faithfully adopted virtually every position the tea party has demanded of him, the true believers are already preparing the ground for his increasingly inevitable election-day repudiation. And their story is going to be exactly what you think: Romney was never really one of them and the American public sniffed that out. They wanted a real red-meat conservative, and Romney wasn't that guy.

You see, true conservatism can never fail, it can only be failed. Welcome to 2013.

71 Killgore Trout  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 4:59:28pm

re: #69 Gus

Big Government MBF

Breitbart was a direct rip off of Michael Moore. No doubt about it.

72 Amory Blaine  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 5:00:56pm

re: #59 William Barnett-Lewis

"Hold me closer Magic Balance Fairy
Count the headlights on the highway
Lay me down in sheets of linen
you had a busy day today"

You know it's sincere when you hear an Elton John song.

73 Stanghazi  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 5:01:02pm

re: #69 Gus

Big Government MBF

BIG LOOK AT ME BULLSHIT

74 Killgore Trout  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 5:01:16pm

Outrage!

75 Stanghazi  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 5:02:20pm

re: #74 Killgore Trout

Outrage!

You have become a complete troll.

76 Mich-again  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 5:04:12pm

re: #70 jaunte

...Despite the fact that Romney has faithfully adopted virtually every position the tea party has demanded of him, the true believers are already preparing the ground for his increasingly inevitable election-day repudiation. And their story is going to be exactly what you think: Romney was never really one of them and the American public sniffed that out. They wanted a real red-meat conservative, and Romney wasn't that guy.

The medicine didn't work because the dosage was too small. ha. The GOP will soon be completely engulfed by the Tea Party. There is no voice of reason left in the GOP, but even if there was one, the Tea Baggers would shout them down.

77 jaunte  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 5:04:40pm
78 wrenchwench  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 5:04:42pm

Later, lizards.

79 Gus  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 5:05:14pm

re: #74 Killgore Trout

Outrage!

I'm saying there's a cancer in the GOP and all you can do is say well there are other cancers! While using 2004, Michale Moore and Jimmy Carter as some kind of moral equivalence. That changes nothing. The GOP remains gripped with its cancer and there is no DNC equivalent.

80 Killgore Trout  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 5:05:14pm

Actually, before I discovered LGF a large part of my political awakening was seeing Fahrenheit 9/11. I wondered, "why isn't any of this stuff in the news?". Went home and started to look into it to discover it was mostly BS, debunked conspiracy theories, misinformation, misleading phrasing, carefully edited video, etc. By the time Breitbart picked up the gimmick I was already wise to it.

81 Bubblehead II  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 5:08:10pm

re: #60 jaunte

Well this is going to be an interesting story. Something had to have gone seriously wrong in that room for this to happen.

82 Stanghazi  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 5:08:55pm

re: #80 Killgore Trout

Actually, before I discovered LGF a large part of my political awakening was seeing Fahrenheit 9/11. I wondered, "why isn't any of this stuff in the news?". Went home and started to look into it to discover it was mostly BS, debunked conspiracy theories, misinformation, misleading phrasing, carefully edited video, etc. By the time Breitbart picked up the gimmick I was already wise to it.

Liar.

And you wish we look to you as a sage.

83 Killgore Trout  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 5:10:23pm

re: #79 Gus

I'm saying there's a cancer in the GOP and all you can do is say well there are other cancers! While using 2004, Michale Moore and Jimmy Carter as some kind of moral equivalence. That changes nothing. The GOP remains gripped with its cancer and there is no DNC equivalent.

No doubt. The Republicans completely fucked up their political machinery. They didn't just pander to the idiots at the Tea Party, they gave them political power. Even now the Tea Party is dead, the "tea party" members in congress still live on as a zombie force. Thankfully the Dems are smart enough to pander to idiots like Michael Moore and OWS but are smart enough to not give them actual political power so they can ignore them at will. Occasionally this doesn't always work out because these are the idiots who will do stupid shit like going off to vote for Ralph Nader.

84 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 5:13:15pm

re: #81 Bubblehead II

Well this is going to be an interesting story. Something had to have gone seriously wrong in that room for this to happen.

Either that or someone was making toys he's not supposed to make at home...

85 Stanghazi  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 5:13:39pm

Really. Ever single thread is killed by our newest freakazoid. (nut sandwich)

re: #83 Killgore Trout

No doubt. The Republicans completely fucked up their political machinery. They didn't just pander to the idiots at the Tea Party, they gave them political power. Even now the Tea Party is dead, the "tea party" members in congress still live on as a zombie force. Thankfully the Dems are smart enough to pander to idiots like Michael Moore and OWS but are smart enough to not give them actual political power so they can ignore them at will. Occasionally this doesn't always work out because these are the idiots who will do stupid shit like going off to vote for Ralph Nader.

You just cut and pasted this from some previous LGF contretemps.
lame, not based in anything other than your newfound breitbart reality.

86 Feline Fearless Leader  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 5:14:10pm

re: #84 William Barnett-Lewis

Either that or someone was making toys he's not supposed to make at home...

Or they left a machine running and it attracted the graboids.

87 Mich-again  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 5:15:16pm

re: #83 Killgore Trout

No doubt. The Republicans completely fucked up their political machinery. They didn't just pander to the idiots at the Tea Party, they gave them political power. Even now the Tea Party is dead, the "tea party" members in congress still live on as a zombie force.

The GOP didn't give the Tea Party political power, they Tea Party took it.

88 freetoken  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 5:17:42pm

Gasoline Prices down 8 cents over last 2 weeks


BIG OIL!! trying to re-elect Obama, no doubt.

89 dragonfire1981  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 5:18:06pm

re: #87 Mich-again

The GOP didn't give the Tea Party political power, they Tea Party took it.

Don't forget the influence of Glenn Beck, Alex Jones, Andrew Breitbart not to mention outlets like Fox News and WND.

90 freetoken  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 5:18:12pm

re: #87 Mich-again

The GOP didn't give the Tea Party political power, they Tea Party took it.

The Tea Party didn't build that.

91 Stanghazi  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 5:18:14pm

Fondue yes. LGF resident troll, no.

See you later.

92 dragonfire1981  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 5:18:54pm

re: #88 freetoken

Gasoline Prices down 8 cents over last 2 weeks

BIG OIL!! trying to re-elect Obama, no doubt.

Lies! My unskewed data shows gas prices are actually UP 11 cents!

93 bratwurst  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 5:21:17pm
94 engineer cat  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 5:24:35pm

idiots like Michael Moore and OWS

maybe it's not true after all that the wealthiest people and corporations in all times and places always do whatever they can to control governments and opinions and lie about their unpopular and harmful activities

95 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 5:28:06pm

re: #94 engineer cat

idiots like Michael Moore and OWS

maybe it's not true after all that the wealthiest people and corporations in all times and places always do whatever they can to control governments and opinions and lie about their unpopular and harmful activities

Like Bill Gates? However you might feel about Windows, he's given away a lot of funds towards what he believes in.

96 Gus  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 5:30:42pm

re: #77 jaunte

[Embedded content]

This proves that the Democrats are just as bad as the Republicans!

//

97 Killgore Trout  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 5:30:48pm

re: #87 Mich-again

The GOP didn't give the Tea Party political power, they Tea Party took it.

Possibly but not by force. The Republican insiders rolled over for the Tea Party. They are/were in a tough spot. Reagan, Bush were all happy to exploit the old standby of the religious right but there's nothing of substance the political machine could deliver them. School prayer, outlawing abortion, etc are all political dead ends. The churches and preachers make a great established 'grass roots" infrastructure but the agenda and public image were demographic dead ends. My guess is they saw the "libertarian" repackaging as an image makeover. Kind of like rebooting a movie franchise. Update the costumes and aesthetics, add a few catch phrases and relaunch a younger hipper brand. It didn't work out for them.

98 Gus  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 5:32:35pm
99 Varek Raith  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 5:33:28pm

re: #98 Gus

[Embedded content]

They did the same for Romney.
/MBF

100 engineer cat  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 5:33:38pm

re: #95 Mostly sane, most of the time.

Like Bill Gates? However you might feel about Windows, he's given away a lot of funds towards what he believes in.

i don't mean to say every single rich person and/or corporation - perhaps i should have been clearer about that.

and on the other hand people are complex - andrew carnegie for example was a great philanthropist who left a great legacy but also lied, cheated, and exploited and even killed workers in the course of making his millions

101 Interesting Times  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 5:35:11pm

re: #98 Gus

[Embedded content]

Can anyone spot Sionainn in the crowd? ;)

102 Bubblehead II  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 5:35:12pm

re: #84 William Barnett-Lewis

Either that or someone was making toys he's not supposed to make at home...

I am laying odds on an automated reloading system that malfunctioned myself.

We spoke to Rep. Stephen Hartgen who tells us they heard a roaring noise from the basement and that's when fred went down to investigate.

There was apparently pressure coming through the door of the gun room. The explosion caused the patio roof to collapse which was the roof over the gun room, according to Hartgen.

A Lot of powder/primers went up causing an over pressure situation. But hell, being a reloader myself, he had to have had a lot of exposed powder/primers to cause such a condition.

103 engineer cat  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 5:35:41pm

re: #97 Killgore Trout

Possibly but not by force. The Republican insiders rolled over for the Tea Party. They are/were in a tough spot. Reagan, Bush were all happy to exploit the old standby of the religious right but there's nothing of substance the political machine could deliver them. School prayer, outlawing abortion, etc are all political dead ends. The churches and preachers make a great established 'grass roots" infrastructure but the agenda and public image were demographic dead ends. My guess is they saw the "libertarian" repackaging as an image makeover. Kind of like rebooting a movie franchise. Update the costumes and aesthetics, add a few catch phrases and relaunch a younger hipper brand. It didn't work out for them.

even after you subtract the tea party and other varieties of wingnut, i find myself wondering what is worthwhile about the policies of the republican party

104 jaunte  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 5:36:39pm

Columbus [Ohio] Dispatch Poll: Obama widens lead as balloting starts

Ohio is among some 30 states with early voting, leading many political strategists to talk about “election month” rather than Election Day. Experts say as many as 40 percent of Ohio voters will cast an absentee ballot before Nov. 6.

For the first time in state history, most of the state’s 7.8 million registered voters have been mailed an absentee-ballot application, and they’ll get another in early October. As of last week, more than 723,000 already asked for an absentee ballot.

105 Varek Raith  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 5:37:13pm

re: #104 jaunte

Columbus [Ohio] Dispatch Poll: Obama widens lead as balloting starts

Romney's lead has also widened.
/MBF

106 Stanghazi  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 5:38:20pm

re: #105 Varek Raith

Romney's lead has also widened.
/MBF

Romney's mother was a slut.

MBF

107 bratwurst  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 5:38:45pm

re: #105 Varek Raith

Romney's lead has also widened.
/MBF

There is NOTHING that can't be "UnSkewed"...wait until I let them know this at Bank of America tomorrow!

108 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 5:39:05pm

re: #102 Bubblehead II

I am laying odds on a automated reloading system that malfunctioned myself

We spoke to Rep. Stephen Hartgen who tells us they heard a roaring noise from the basement and that's when fred went down to investigate.

There was apparently pressure coming through the door of the gun room. The explosion caused the patio roof to collapse which was the roof over the gun room, according to Hartgen.

Ah. Yes, that would make sense. I don't tend to think of them as all I have is a nice little single stage press that takes a bit of time per cartridge.

109 jaunte  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 5:39:32pm

re: #107 bratwurst

"I believe you have oversampled my debits!"

110 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 5:39:54pm

Evening Honcos.

111 Kragar  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 5:40:20pm

Romney has a significant lead amongst people who stated they would vote for Romney.

112 Gus  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 5:41:21pm

re: #106 We're All Welfare Queens Now

Romney's mother was a slut.

MBF

That's pretty standard.

//

113 jaunte  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 5:42:23pm

re: #102 Bubblehead II

I am laying odds on a automated reloading system that malfunctioned myself

I don't know much about them, but I would bet there isn't anything in the safety instructions that says "feel free to leave it alone while operating, and go have dinner on a patio just above the equipment."

114 Bubblehead II  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 5:44:15pm

re: #108 William Barnett-Lewis

Same here. Never did like multistage presses, hence the reason I don't own one.

115 Killgore Trout  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 5:44:22pm

re: #103 engineer cat

even after you subtract the tea party and other varieties of wingnut, i find myself wondering what is worthwhile about the policies of the republican party

Not much worthwhile these days. Unfortunately the "libertarian" thing comes with a certain amount of fundamentalism so they aren't really in a position to be practical. It also doesn't help that their party is out of power. You'll notice that whichever party (yes, MBF) is out of power is free to go completely apeshit and disconnect from reality. They can complain about everything and take blame for nothing.
I know it seems unimaginable and outrageous but the Republicans will get their shit into one bag eventually. They do have a history of being a serious, nuts and bolts type political machine. They'll come back eventually but I wouldn;t venture a guess as to what form they will take. It could be interesting if they choose a new constructive path. Either way they are going to have to reinvent themselves. They are at a dead end and the smart insiders know that.

116 OhNoZombies!  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 5:47:20pm

MBF's mother posed for porn with Commie Smurf, who may or may not be MBF's real father.
Her mother then left MBF to be raised by her fairy grandparents, as she ran off to have multiple relationships with Tree Sprites.

117 Mich-again  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 5:47:59pm

re: #97 Killgore Trout

My guess is they saw the "libertarian" repackaging as an image makeover. Kind of like rebooting a movie franchise. Update the costumes and aesthetics, add a few catch phrases and relaunch a younger hipper brand. It didn't work out for them.

The GOP figured that joining up with the Tea Party (aka the John Birch Society) would increase their ranks and popularity. What they didn't account for is all those, including me, who would leave the GOP because of the Bircher influence. When its all said and done, Mitt will likely lose even worse than John McCain did in 2008 and the GOP will have completely ceded the vast middle ground to the Dems.

118 Mich-again  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 5:49:33pm

re: #102 Bubblehead II

I am laying odds on an automated reloading system that malfunctioned myself.

We spoke to Rep. Stephen Hartgen who tells us they heard a roaring noise from the basement and that's when fred went down to investigate.

There was apparently pressure coming through the door of the gun room. The explosion caused the patio roof to collapse which was the roof over the gun room, according to Hartgen.

A Lot of powder/primers went up causing an over pressure situation. But hell, being a reloader myself, he had to have had a lot of exposed powder/primers to cause such a condition.

Pretty darn stupid storing explosives in the basement where none of the walls can blow out. Good thing the gun advocates are so concerned with safety and proper training.

119 engineer cat  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 5:50:34pm

re: #115 Killgore Trout

Not much worthwhile these days. Unfortunately the "libertarian" thing comes with a certain amount of fundamentalism so they aren't really in a position to be practical. It also doesn't help that their party is out of power. You'll notice that whichever party (yes, MBF) is out of power is free to go completely apeshit and disconnect from reality. They can complain about everything and take blame for nothing.
I know it seems unimaginable and outrageous but the Republicans will get their shit into one bag eventually. They do have a history of being a serious, nuts and bolts type political machine. They'll come back eventually but I wouldn;t venture a guess as to what form they will take. It could be interesting if they choose a new constructive path. Either way they are going to have to reinvent themselves. They are at a dead end and the smart insiders know that.

i tend to think that the party will eventually divide into the True Original Conservative Republican Party (Wingnut) and the True Original Conservative Republican Party (Wall Street)

120 jamesfirecat  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 5:52:22pm

re: #119 engineer cat

i tend to think that the party will eventually divide into the True Original Conservative Republican Party (Wingnut) and the True Original Conservative Republican Party (Wall Street)

What about Famous Original Conservative Republican Party?

121 Kragar  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 5:53:00pm

New YWCA poll has him trailing Obama by 18 points among women voters.

Another four years of President Obama, according to a new YWCA-sponsored poll that found him leading Republican Mitt Romney by 49 percent to 31 percent. The yawning gender gap mirrors other surveys nationwide and here in Ohio, a hotly contested swing state, and it represents one of Romney’s most pressing challenges in the home stretch before the Nov. 6 election.

Women typically favor the Democratic nominee, but the gender gap popping up in recent polls is larger than expected.

“Women think President Obama is more in touch with their concerns,’’ said Democratic pollster Celinda Lake, who supervised the YWCA survey with Republican pollster Kellyanne Conway. “They also prefer to see a partnership between the private sector and government, and Obama speaks to that more.”

The president and his allies also have waged one of the most aggressive advertising campaigns on women’s issues seen in a presidential race, asserting that Romney will take away abortion rights, access to contraception and Planned Parenthood funding. In one new ad, a woman says the health clinic saved her life by with an early diagnosis of cancer. Romney “just does not have any idea how many lives he’s devastating,” she says.

122 Bubblehead II  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 5:54:14pm

re: #113 jaunte

I don't know much about them, but I would bet there isn't anything in the safety instructions that says "feel free to leave it alone while operating, and go have dinner on a patio just above the equipment."

Reloading isn't something you leave unattended. Hell even the first load from the Manufacture is supervised from step one.

123 engineer cat  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 5:54:18pm

re: #120 jamesfirecat

What about Famous Original Conservative Republican Party?

can i get whole wheat maple nut pancakes there?

124 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 5:56:03pm

re: #118 Mich-again

Pretty darn stupid storing explosives in the basement where none of the walls can blow out. Good thing the gun advocates are so concerned with safety and proper training.

A guy I worked for had a steel cabinet that he stored powders in. He opened it one day and said, "mix X amounts of this, X amounts of that and put in a fuse. This entire house would be gone". But he did it safely. He also has a Level 3 permit (iirc) for selling firearms.

125 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 5:56:23pm

Good Night to my fellow Lizards.

126 Killgore Trout  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 5:59:32pm

re: #117 Mich-again

The GOP figured that joining up with the Tea Party (aka the John Birch Society) would increase their ranks and popularity. What they didn't account for is all those, including me, who would leave the GOP because of the Bircher influence. When its all said and done, Mitt will likely lose even worse than John McCain did in 2008 and the GOP will have completely ceded the vast middle ground to the Dems.

Probably. Mitt or Huntsman were the only viable candidates. Now the GOP is left with the problem of a viable candidate (no, Mitt's not a sociopath, compulsive liar or retard) with a nonviable voter base. Epic fail. This is also why I push back against OWS, Michael Moore and MSNBC. Repeating the mistakes of the GOP is a bad idea. A rabid, radicalized and misinformed base seems like a good idea to a lot of folks but it's a recipe for ruin.

127 Lidane  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:03:30pm

re: #126 Killgore Trout

Huntsman was never viable. Not only does he speak a language that isn't English, but he committed the unpardonable sin of working for President Obama.

Also, how are MSNBC comparable to OWS and Michael Moore? Is this part of your ongoing delusion that Rachel Maddow = Glenn Beck = Limbaugh?

128 Killgore Trout  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:03:34pm

re: #119 engineer cat

i tend to think that the party will eventually divide into the True Original Conservative Republican Party (Wingnut) and the True Original Conservative Republican Party (Wall Street)

I have no idea where they'll end up but if I had to bet I'd go with a brief reversion back to the old standard religious right. It won't work out but I don't know if they have other viable options. A decade or two out of the White House will make them seriously rethink things.

129 b_sharp  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:03:37pm

I've lost my motivation.

130 engineer cat  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:05:46pm

ok, boardwalk empire is on, everybody keep quiet

131 Four More Tears  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:05:54pm

One of the top ten trends right now...

#NotAllBlackPeople

132 Killgore Trout  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:07:35pm

re: #127 Lidane

Huntsman was never viable. Not only does he speak a language that isn't English, but he committed the unpardonable sin of working for President Obama.

Also, how are MSNBC comparable to OWS and Michael Moore? Is this part of your ongoing delusion that Rachel Maddow = Glenn Beck = Limbaugh?

Sort of. Just like Breitbart ripped off Michael Moore: MSNBC is copying Fox's model of hyper-partisan pundit characters. It's financially viable and market tested to appeal to the base instincts of the target audience. Much like Honey Boo-boo and Jersey Shore.
BTW, is the video of Justin Beiber puking worth watching?

133 Killgore Trout  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:08:11pm

re: #130 engineer cat

ok, boardwalk empire is on, everybody keep quiet

When do we get new Breaking Bad episodes?

134 Mich-again  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:08:23pm

Hey I just had a Wingnut Facebook friend blame Obama for the Ryder Cup loss. Wow, that took like 3 hours. They're slipping.

135 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:08:50pm

re: #131 Mocking Jay

One of the top ten trends right now...

#NotAllBlackPeople

I noticed a lot of fried chicken and can't swim quotes in there. For the record, I love fried chicken, greens, mac-n-cheese, grits, watermelon and I can swim.:)

136 TedStriker  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:08:54pm

re: #133 Killgore Trout

When do we get new Breaking Bad episodes?

Next summer, unfortunately, even though it's probably all in the can.

Damn you, AMC!

137 Bubblehead II  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:08:57pm

re: #118 Mich-again

Pretty darn stupid storing explosives in the basement where none of the walls can blow out. Good thing the gun advocates are so concerned with safety and proper training.

Well yes and no. Regardless of where you are going to store them, you don't store powders in a totally air tight container. You have to have a "blow Out" pipe. This is a safety requirement for anybody that stores powder. You have to have a means to direct the combustion product away from everything else in the event it catches on fire.

138 Achilles Tang  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:09:29pm

re: #126 Killgore Trout

(no, Mitt's not a sociopath, compulsive liar or retard)

No, he is not a sociopath, clinically speaking, nor is he mentally retarded since that is not normally attributed to the belief of invented religion by known con artists.

Nuff said.

139 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:09:36pm

re: #134 Mich-again

Hey I just had a Wingnut Facebook friend blame Obama for the Ryder Cup loss. Wow, that took like 3 hours. They're slipping.

We lost the Ryder Cup? We were up 9-4 last I knew!

140 Killgore Trout  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:10:43pm

re: #136 Gert Fröbe

Next year, unfortunately, even though it's probably all in the can.

Damn. I guess I'll just have to look forward to Walking Dead for a while. It's a frustrating series but the new season looks interesting.

141 Mich-again  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:11:12pm

re: #139 Cannadian Club Akbar

We lost the Ryder Cup? We were up 9-4 last I knew!

Humongous choke job, a real team effort.

142 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:11:27pm

re: #140 Killgore Trout

Damn. I guess I'll just have to look forward to Walking Dead for a while. It's a frustrating series but the new season looks interesting.

I just started watching The Walking Dead. Pretty cool.

143 Lidane  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:11:33pm

re: #132 Killgore Trout

So basically, you've decided that everything must exist through the MBF.

Good to know.

144 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:11:48pm

re: #141 Mich-again

Humongous choke job, a real team effort.

No shit? Geez.

145 kirkspencer  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:12:19pm

re: #119 engineer cat

i tend to think that the party will eventually divide into the True Original Conservative Republican Party (Wingnut) and the True Original Conservative Republican Party (Wall Street)

No.

Look, the big thing that I think you have to keep in mind is the money. In almost every state as well as nationally, the two largest parties get the lion's share of money. Everyone else gets some money if they can show they're large enough, but at best it's going to still be a fraction of what the largest gets.

(By money I mean access to auto-funding options and state-subsidized primary ballots and all the rest.)

Unless one party of the split can guarantee it gets tagged as the original and the other the splinter, all the money goes away.

I don't know what'll happen, but I see two branches: either they follow the fanaticism flag to the bitter end or they drop (or at least squelch) the fanatics in their party. I think it'll take at least a decade for either to be the obvious route. If it's the former the money will no longer be an issue when so many people leave the party it's as small as (or smaller than) a number of third parties. If the latter it'll recover.

In other words I think that IF the GOP dies it'll do it with a whimper, not a bang.

146 Charles Johnson  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:12:29pm

I think the Tea Party was pretty much a fraud, a fake grass-roots movement that was cynically manipulated by the GOP establishment and Fox News, to create the impression of a right wing groundswell.

In my final days at PJ Media there was a lot of talk about helping to promote the Tea Party, and it was coming down from on high. Grass roots, my left butt cheek.

147 Killgore Trout  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:12:35pm

re: #143 Lidane

So basically, you've decided that everything must exist through the MBF.

Good to know.

No, but I'm not falling for the same gimmicks repackaged by different idiots. Been there, done that. Not going back.

148 Obdicut  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:12:55pm

re: #132 Killgore Trout

Rachel Maddow and Glenn Beck are not equivalent. Every time you say this, it's like declaring yourself incapable of making any sort of comparison in any way. It's like saying that both Obama and Ron Paul are equivalent because they're both politicians who came from outside the mainstream. Or another other ridiculously inapt comparison.

You've never really settled on whether you think that Maddow doesn't actually have the politics she espoused, or not. I mean, that's kind of central to your conspiracy theory about her just being a character, right? Because if she does believe in the stuff she and her team are producing, then she's not a character, she's just got a public persona, which is different.

And even if someone is a character-- like Stephen Colbert, a real character-- it doesn't mean you can't actually get good information from them. So not only is the comparison about what they are inapt, but you're obviously, fatuously overlooking the difference in the quality of reporting on each show. You claim that you want a good media, but-- despite Maddow's pieces being well-researched and opposition speakers given civil and polite time to speak-- you shit all over it.

Again and again: Playing stupid has the side effect of actually making you look stupid. Do it over and over, and people are going to conclude you actually are stupid.

149 Achilles Tang  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:13:00pm

re: #132 Killgore Trout

Sort of. Just like Breitbart ripped off Michael Moore: MSNBC is copying Fox's model of hyper-partisan pundit characters. It's financially viable and market tested to appeal to the base instincts of the target audience. Much like Honey Boo-boo and Jersey Shore.
BTW, is the video of Justin Beiber puking worth watching?

There is moronic hyper partisanship and there is intellectual hyper partisanship; assuming that you consider intellectual to be synonymous with hyper.

150 Killgore Trout  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:13:57pm

re: #142 Cannadian Club Akbar

I just started watching The Walking Dead. Pretty cool.

It is good, I have some issues with the writing but I won't poison you with spoilers. Still Worth watching.

151 Lidane  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:13:57pm

re: #145 kirkspencer

No.

Look, the big thing that I think you have to keep in mind is the money. In almost every state as well as nationally, the two largest parties get the lion's share of money. Everyone else gets some money if they can show they're large enough, but at best it's going to still be a fraction of what the largest gets.

That's because the two major parties write all the election laws. They draw districts, set the rules for ballot access, etc. As long as that's true, we'll never have a viable third party in this country.

152 Henchman 25  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:14:07pm

Image: thestupiditburns.jpg

153 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:15:29pm

re: #152 Artist

Image: thestupiditburns.jpg

Upding, something I don't get to do often enough.

154 Bubblehead II  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:16:15pm

re: #146 Charles Johnson

But what does your right(wing) butt cheek have to say about this?

Inquiring minds want to know ............

155 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:16:27pm

re: #150 Killgore Trout

It is good, I have some issues with the writing but I won't poison you with spoilers. Still Worth watching.

I have had issues with writing on movies and TV since the first time I took a kick ass screen writing seminar. This is also why I don't watch many movies anymore.:(

156 Charles Johnson  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:16:58pm

The Republican Party never ceded any power to the Tea Party. The Tea Party was the Republican Party. Who cares if some old-time GOP Representatives and Senators get tossed out? The bottom line is all about the numbers. They knew that even any Tea Party crackpots who got elected would soon toe the line.

157 Randall Gross  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:22:23pm

re: #156 Charles Johnson

The Republican Party never ceded any power to the Tea Party. The Tea Party was the Republican Party. Who cares if some old-time GOP Representatives and Senators get tossed out? The bottom line is all about the numbers. They knew that even any Tea Party crackpots who got elected would soon toe the line.

They'll be spending the next decade gluing the mask they let drop back together however. Weyrich/Buckley and even to a certain extent Dobson were masters at keeping most of the crazy behind the curtain. In the face of demographic doom the new party masters let the freak show take over center ring.

158 Mich-again  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:22:44pm

re: #146 Charles Johnson

I think the Tea Party was pretty much a fraud, a fake grass-roots movement that was cynically manipulated by the GOP establishment and Fox News, to create the impression of a right wing groundswell.

In my final days at PJ Media there was a lot of talk about helping to promote the Tea Party, and it was coming down from on high. Grass roots, my left butt cheek.

The Birchers have been around for decades with the same message. The Tea Party was just a new name that freed them from all the Bircher baggage, but it is the same people and the same agenda.

159 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:23:27pm

re: #143 Lidane

So basically, you've decided that everything must exist through the MBF.

Good to know.

He's been that way since he got scared of a red under his bed by OWS. Not sure why they freaked him so bad, it's almost like Horowitz though in his move to total MBF and lack of logic for over a year now.

160 Bubblehead II  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:23:54pm

re: #156 Charles Johnson

The Republican Party never ceded any power to the Tea Party. The Tea Party was the Republican Party. Who cares if some old-time GOP Representatives and Senators get tossed out? The bottom line is all about the numbers. They knew that even any Tea Party crackpots who got elected would soon toe the line.

Ummmm Charles... WTF? I know it's an Sunday open. But would you please explain were this is coming from? Because, like, you know, it's out of the blue/

// Channelling some unknown Valley Girl

161 Lidane  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:25:33pm

re: #157 Randall Gross

Weyrich/Buckley and even to a certain extent Dobson were masters at keeping most of the crazy behind the curtain.

That's because they didn't have a persistent, instant 24/7 global media cycle to deal with. Weyrich, Buckley and Dobson could hide the crazy better because they didn't have the internet to contend with.

I suspect that things would be very different now if we'd had our current technology back then.

162 recusancy  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:25:45pm

re: #148 Obdicut

Rachel Maddow and Glenn Beck are not equivalent. Every time you say this, it's like declaring yourself incapable of making any sort of comparison in any way. It's like saying that both Obama and Ron Paul are equivalent because they're both politicians who came from outside the mainstream. Or another other ridiculously inapt comparison.

You've never really settled on whether you think that Maddow doesn't actually have the politics she espoused, or not. I mean, that's kind of central to your conspiracy theory about her just being a character, right? Because if she does believe in the stuff she and her team are producing, then she's not a character, she's just got a public persona, which is different.

And even if someone is a character-- like Stephen Colbert, a real character-- it doesn't mean you can't actually get good information from them. So not only is the comparison about what they are inapt, but you're obviously, fatuously overlooking the difference in the quality of reporting on each show. You claim that you want a good media, but-- despite Maddow's pieces being well-researched and opposition speakers given civil and polite time to speak-- you shit all over it.

Again and again: Playing stupid has the side effect of actually making you look stupid. Do it over and over, and people are going to conclude you actually are stupid.

It's the conclusion I've come to.

163 TedStriker  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:26:57pm

re: #156 Charles Johnson

The Republican Party never ceded any power to the Tea Party. The Tea Party was the Republican Party. Who cares if some old-time GOP Representatives and Senators get tossed out? The bottom line is all about the numbers. They knew that even any Tea Party crackpots who got elected would soon toe the line.

Didn't that theory pretty much go out the window, seeing how many establishment Republicans have been racing to kiss Todd Akin's ass here lately in order to keep him in the game against McCaskill, having previously thrown his ass under the bus for what he said?

164 Randall Gross  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:27:23pm

re: #161 Lidane

That's because they didn't have a persistent, instant 24/7 global media cycle to deal with. Weyrich, Buckley and Dobson could hide the crazy better because they didn't have the internet to contend with.

I suspect that things would be very different now if we'd had our current technology back then.

Excellent point.

165 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:28:48pm

A very good series of photos from the International Mine Clearance Exercise in the Persian Gulf. Very good look at several of the ships involved and a brief look at some things Iran might send against them.

166 Randall Gross  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:30:17pm

There's also a very strong streak of nihilism in today's GOP that wasn't as prevalent in past decades - they are much more willing to lob grenades just to lob grenades than they used to be, they don't care about consequences, relationships, or partnerships anymore.

167 Spocomptonite  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:33:25pm

What's the deal with the upcoming debate? I thought I had already seen it...

168 Mich-again  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:34:08pm

re: #161 Lidane

That's because they didn't have a persistent, instant 24/7 global media cycle to deal with. Weyrich, Buckley and Dobson could hide the crazy better because they didn't have the internet to contend with.

I suspect that things would be very different now if we'd had our current technology back then.

The internet is a great way to share information and spread lies too.

169 Charles Johnson  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:35:54pm

re: #163 Gert Fröbe

Didn't that theory pretty much go out the window, seeing how many establishment Republicans have been racing to kiss Todd Akin's ass here lately in order to keep him in the game against McCaskill, having previously thrown his ass under the bus for what he said?

Actually, I was thinking of Todd Akin when I wrote that. It's all about the numbers. They know Akin will vote a straight party line if elected to the Senate, so his backwoods caveman views really are just fine. He's their caveman.

170 Achilles Tang  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:13:46pm

re: #161 Lidane

That's because they didn't have a persistent, instant 24/7 global media cycle to deal with. Weyrich, Buckley and Dobson could hide the crazy better because they didn't have the internet to contend with.

I suspect that things would be very different now if we'd had our current technology back then.

How many wingnuts "back then" owned a typewriter, knew how to address an envelope and to whom, not to mention how to lick the stamp, or use the corrective tape along with the non existant dictionary?//

171 Feline Fearless Leader  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:47:47pm

re: #142 Cannadian Club Akbar

I just started watching The Walking Dead. Pretty cool.

Are you sure that wasn't Ryder Cup highlights?

172 William of Orange  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:04:16am
I also registered a new account with the name @Lizardoid and put a notice on its profile page about the new username, in case anyone has linked to the old profile address.

And most important, to prevent some douchebag hijacking that name.

173 CriticalDragon1177  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 11:51:53am

Charles Johnson,

Thanks for telling us about the change.

174 William of Orange  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 1:29:09pm

re: #98 Gus

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Did you ever see a turn out for Romney in those masses??

175 William of Orange  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 1:31:28pm

re: #132 Killgore Trout

Sort of. Just like Breitbart ripped off Michael Moore: MSNBC is copying Fox's model of hyper-partisan pundit characters. It's financially viable and market tested to appeal to the base instincts of the target audience. Much like Honey Boo-boo and Jersey Shore.
BTW, is the video of Justin Beiber puking worth watching?

Probably not, though I see some parallels between Bieber puking and you coments in this thread...


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