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1 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:34:54pm

Cute kid. Sadly, I have the feeling that when the Freepers or Fox Nation get hold of this photo their racism will flow like water.

2 Amory Blaine  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:35:56pm

Launch codes? Let me get my mom!!!

3 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:36:30pm

"I said no pineapple on my pizza!! I thought you were a chef"!!!

4 Tigger2  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:38:02pm

When you Republicans start acting like grownups then you can talk to a grownup.

5 Lidane  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:38:45pm

"I don't care what the TV schedule says, I want to watch Phineas & Ferb now!"

6 Obdicut  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:38:54pm

"To reach the White House operator, dial one. For today's "Biden's Bits O' Wisdom and Gambling tips", dial two. If you are a small child, please pose in your most convincingly cute fashion while the automated camera takes a picture."

7 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:39:30pm

"I want my orange juice shaken not stirred."

8 Mickey Blumental  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:41:38pm

"The phone ain't upside down, I said talk to the hand."

(ALSO, CUTE EXPLOSION IN MY BRAIN ♥)

9 Mich-again  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:42:34pm

um if this thing is a phone then where is the screen?

10 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:42:39pm

re: #3 Cannadian Club Akbar

"I said no pineapple on my pizza!! I thought you were a chef"!!!

Your spy on RG3 didn't get it done today, CCA. His final drive got down the field into field goal range fairly easily.

11 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:42:41pm

"I demand a car, a helicopter, juice boxes and a nap!! Pronto!"

12 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:43:03pm

re: #10 Dark_Falcon

Your spy on RG# didn't get it done today, CCA. His final drive got down the field into field goal range fairly easily.

Shutty!!!
///

13 Lidane  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:45:22pm

"Tell the E*Trade baby his investment advice sucks. Who did he listen to, Ron Paul?"

14 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:47:19pm

*From the receiver*
"Thank you for calling Dell. Your call is very important to us. Please hold on the line and someone will be with you shortly....."

15 Killgore Trout  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:48:40pm

"I don't care what the Pakistanis say. Cookie Monster gets drones. I'm the decider. If Sponge Bob breaks under waterboarding call me back."

16 Killgore Trout  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:50:17pm

Excitable boy

17 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:54:06pm

"Where are my chocolate chip cookies?"

18 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:54:45pm

He's just cute.
He's thinking, "Look at this thing. I'm gonna have to tell them to upgrade the phones when I get elected..."

19 Only The Lurker Knows  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:55:17pm

Night Lizards.

May the Deity of Your Choice smile down upon you and yours.

Killgore (re#15) You being are an asshole.

20 Gus  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:55:47pm

re: #15 Killgore Trout

"I don't care what the Pakistanis say. Cookie Monster gets drones. I'm the decider. If Sponge Bob breaks under waterboarding call me back."

Drones, yes. Waterboarding, no. ;)

21 Randall Gross  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:56:47pm

What is this thing? Does it have a touch screen somewhere?

--- in other news the concert in Central Park last night drew 60 k attendees in the park, who knows how many online. [Link: www.rollingstone.com...]

22 Charles Johnson  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:57:11pm

"The President is busy right now. Can you call back?"

23 Gus  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:57:18pm

Parody account.

24 Mattand  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:58:42pm

"Dave's not here, man."

25 BongCrodny  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:59:04pm

"No, Mr. Romney, I don't think you could beat me in a debate, either."

26 Killgore Trout  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:59:47pm

re: #20 Gus

Drones, yes. Waterboarding, no. ;)

Let's split the difference and go with indefinite detention.

27 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:59:56pm

re: #12 Cannadian Club Akbar

Shutty!!!
///

I was right about the Packers winning and the Vikings also came out on top. The Giants are playing the Eagles right now, with Eli looking for his team's 3rd win. His brother Peyton spent his field time slapping the Raiders silly. Oakland held him to 10 points in the first half, but in the second half the Broncos scored 27 unanswered points on their way to a 37-6 victory.

28 Lidane  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:00:17pm

"Give me the launch codes! Operation Destroy Brussels Sprouts and Lima Beans is a go."

29 Gus  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:00:18pm

re: #26 Killgore Trout

Let's split the difference and go with indefinite detention.

Bing! I like it.

30 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:02:11pm

Uh Uncle Barack who is this person saying all of these nasty words over the phone?

31 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:02:39pm

re: #27 Dark_Falcon

Haven't looked to see what happened with Rodgers for GB in the 3rd. But I know we was pulled after a face mask penalty. Hope he's OK.:(

32 Gus  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:02:43pm

Treat them like POWs. They're held until hostilities cease. No trial. No judgement. If the war ends in two months they get released soon after. Or, they could fight on for 50 years. I would actually prefer to be held as a POW than face life at a Supermax.

33 The Ghost of a Flea  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:03:23pm

Operation: Candyland Freedom is a go.

34 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:03:58pm

"Michelle, we need to talk skool lunches. Get back to me".
(sorry I went there but it's comedy. Get over it)

35 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:04:00pm

re: #31 Cannadian Club Akbar

Haven't looked to see what happened with Rodgers for GB in the 3rd. But I know we was pulled after a face mask penalty. Hope he's OK.:(

He's OK. He came back into the game and did his part to get his team the win.

36 Kragar  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:04:13pm
37 Gus  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:04:31pm

[Squelch]

38 Gus  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:04:57pm

re: #36 Kragar

Hello...

Last night Dog spoke to me.

39 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:05:34pm

re: #32 Gus

Treat them like POWs. They're held until hostilities cease. No trial. No judgement. If the war ends in two months they get released soon after. Or, they could fight on for 50 years. I would actually prefer to be held as a POW than face life at a Supermax.

Those caught in actual battle, fine. Not terror masters like Ramiz bin Alshibi or Khalid Sheik Mohammad. Those scum are terrorists, and they go before tribunals.

40 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:06:02pm

Okay I got it Chutes and Ladders in the Green Room.

41 Gus  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:06:38pm

re: #39 Dark_Falcon

Those caught in actual battle, fine. Not terror masters like Ramiz bin Alshibi or Khalid Sheik Mohammad. Those scum are terrorists, and they go before tribunals.

Right. Not those. Those are war criminals.

42 Gus  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:07:05pm

But they need to speed things up.

43 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:08:06pm

re: #41 Gus

Right. Not those. Those are war criminals.

This is where I hoped they would resist.

44 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:11:12pm

re: #43 Cannadian Club Akbar

This is where I hoped they would resist.

No, be glad we caught those assholes alive. We learned a great deal from their capture. Had we not derived critical intel from interrogating KSM, we likely would never have ID'd the couriers who we ultimately tracked to bin Laden's lair.

45 Varek Raith  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:11:49pm

re: #6 Obdicut

"To reach the White House operator, dial one. For today's "Biden's Bits O' Wisdom and Gambling tips", dial two. If you are a small child, please pose in your most convincingly cute fashion while the automated camera takes a picture."

2

46 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:12:58pm

re: #44 Dark_Falcon

No, be glad we caught those assholes alive. We learned a great deal from their capture. Had we not derived critical intel from interrogating KSM, we likely would never have ID'd the couriers who we ultimately tracked to bin Laden's lair.

I know. I just want KSM to, well, to keep with the TOS of LGF, to die-ish.:)

47 BongCrodny  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:14:06pm

re: #16 Killgore Trout

Excitable boy

[Embedded content]

One of the things I always liked about Warren Zevon was there was no moralizing in his songs; he let his characters speak for themselves and let their actions define them. The old racist of "Renegade," the unrepentant scoundrel of "Mr. Bad Example," the junk bond king in "Seminole Bingo."

Years and decades later, his songs ande characters remain fresh in my imagination.

I can't think of a single performer I miss more than Zevon.

48 Kragar  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:14:08pm

re: #45 Varek Raith

2

"I bet one legend that keeps recurring throughout history, in every culture, is the story of Popeye."

49 Killgore Trout  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:14:51pm

"I'm telling you this for the last time: The picture on the fridge is not of Mohamed in a Gaza bomb factory. It's Santa and his elves at the North Pole, let's not make a big deal out of this."

50 Gus  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:15:36pm

re: #46 Cannadian Club Akbar

I know. I just want KSM to, well, to keep with the TOS of LGF, to die-ish.:)

Get it over with and send him to ADMAX.

51 Killgore Trout  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:16:21pm

re: #47 BongCrodny

One of the things I always liked about Warren Zevon was there was no moralizing in his songs; he let his characters speak for themselves and let their actions define them. The old racist of "Renegade," the unrepentant scoundrel of "Mr. Bad Example," the junk bond king in "Seminole Bingo."

Years and decades later, his songs ande characters remain fresh in my imagination.

I can't think of a single performer I miss more than Zevon.

Keep Me In Your Heart

52 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:17:27pm

re: #50 Gus

Get it over with and send him to ADMAX.

Not sure what ADMAX is but howz about letting him swim to Florida and he gets citizenship? With a couple of fish dangling from his waist?

53 The Ghost of a Flea  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:17:52pm

re: #48 Kragar

"I bet one legend that keeps recurring throughout history, in every culture, is the story of Popeye."

Joseph Campbell wrote all about Popeye.. Squinty Man with Freakish Forearms and Leafy Vegetable-based superpowers is practically a Jungian archetype.

54 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:18:46pm

re: #50 Gus

Get it over with and send him to ADMAX.

No. I don't want him on US soil. And there isn't really a way to get it over with quickly, since he's going to drag things out as long as possible no matter what. He's not going to plead guilty and the sensitive nature of some of the evidence against him guarantees a great deal of legal maneuvering yet to be done.

55 Gus  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:22:04pm

re: #52 Cannadian Club Akbar

Not sure what ADMAX is but howz about letting him swim to Florida and he gets citizenship? With a couple of fish dangling from his waist?

re: #54 Dark_Falcon

No. I don't want him on US soil. And there isn't really a way to get it over with quickly, since he's going to drag things out as long as possible no matter what. He's not going to plead guilty and the sensitive nature of some of the evidence against him guarantees a great deal of legal maneuvering yet to be done.

I was raised Catholic. Albeit for a very young age.

56 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:23:18pm

re: #55 Gus

re: #54 Dark_Falcon

I was raised Catholic. Albeit for a very young age.

Maybe we could shame him?
//(sorry again)

57 Achilles Tang  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:23:23pm

re: #20 Gus

Drones, yes. Waterboarding, no. ;)

I thought sponge bob was already underwater. Get it?

58 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:23:32pm

re: #53 The Ghost of a Flea

Joseph Campbell wrote all about Popeye.. Squinty Man with Freakish Forearms and Leafy Vegetable-based superpowers is practically a Jungian archetype.

'Hero with A Thousand Scrunchie Faces'

59 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:23:48pm

re: #57 Achilles Tang

I thought sponge bob was already underwater. Get it?

That was my thought.

60 Achilles Tang  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:24:36pm

re: #55 Gus

re: #54 Dark_Falcon

I was raised Catholic. Albeit for a very young age.

Does that mean for a very short time; like before your brain gelled?

61 Killgore Trout  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:25:29pm

re: #57 Achilles Tang

I thought sponge bob was already underwater. Get it?

Hitchens was at a disadvantage.

62 Killgore Trout  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:25:48pm

Get it?

63 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:27:49pm

re: #62 Killgore Trout

Get it?

Actually no.

64 Achilles Tang  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:28:24pm

re: #62 Killgore Trout

Get it?

Still trying.

65 sagehen  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:28:45pm

"Honey, I shrunk the President!!"

66 Gus  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:29:55pm

Wow, weird. "I Wanna Live" with Susan Hayward is on TV.

The death penalty is savagery.

67 Killgore Trout  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:30:52pm

re: #63 Dark_Falcon

Actually no.

Hitch should have opted for whiskey.Ok, maybe I'm just amusing myself but why should this be any different.

68 Kragar  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:32:04pm

re: #55 Gus

re: #54 Dark_Falcon

I was raised Catholic. Albeit for a very young age.

No one is born Catholic. Its only by active recruitment into the lifestyle that they increase their numbers.
///

69 Gus  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:32:38pm

re: #68 Kragar

No one is born Catholic. Its only by active recruitment into the lifestyle that they increase their numbers.
///

We all fall into our place.

70 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:33:25pm

Outie. See y'all in the AM.

71 Achilles Tang  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:33:31pm

re: #67 Killgore Trout

Hitch should have opted for whiskey.Ok, maybe I'm just amusing myself but why should this be any different.

That is certainly what one could call lateral thinking; politely speaking.

72 Gus  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:34:47pm

Hitch is dead. Sam Harris and Richard Dawkins are pretty lame compared to him. I mean seriously lame.

73 Achilles Tang  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:35:21pm

re: #69 Gus

We all fall into our place.

Some crawl out of it.

74 engineer cat  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:35:47pm

re: #66 Gus

Wow, weird. "I Wanna Live" with Susan Hayward is on TV.

The death penalty is savagery.

huh - i don't see it on my cable lineup - what station?

75 Gus  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:35:50pm

re: #73 Achilles Tang

Some crawl out of it.

That's relative.

76 Gus  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:36:15pm

re: #74 engineer cat

huh - i don't see it on my cable lineup - what station?

Local Denver station.

77 Achilles Tang  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:39:00pm

re: #72 Gus

Hitch is dead. Sam Harris and Richard Dawkins are pretty lame compared to him. I mean seriously lame.

He had the gift of word for sure. I sometimes wished he dressed better though, even as I saw through that.

78 Achilles Tang  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:39:38pm

re: #75 Gus

That's relative.

Your relatives?

79 jaunte  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:41:39pm

It sure is hard to throw stuff away.

Time Bomb: Military Ordnance in Gulf of Mexico Poses Threat to Shipping, Says Expert

The bombs are no stranger to Bryant and Slowey, who have come across them numerous times while conducting various research projects in the Gulf, and they have photographed many of them sitting on the Gulf floor like so many bowling pins, some in areas cleared for oil and gas platform installation.

"We surveyed some of them on trips to the Gulf within the past few years," he notes. "Ten are about 60 miles out and others are about 100 miles out. The next closest dump site to Texas is in Louisiana, not far from where the Mississippi River delta area is in the Gulf. Some shrimpers have recovered bombs and drums of mustard gas in their fishing nets."

80 Gus  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:45:26pm

re: #78 Achilles Tang

Your relatives?

I am both irrelevant and obsolete.

81 Achilles Tang  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:46:22pm

Now I see LGF is getting ads for psychics. I wonder what key words prompted that. Nothing like sending bad money to a good cause. I wonder if there are key word posts we can make to bump the LGF revenue further?

82 jaunte  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:46:28pm

re: #80 Gus

My tribes!

83 Achilles Tang  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:46:57pm

re: #80 Gus

I am both irrelevant and obsolete.

Not here. Goodnight.

85 Gus  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:48:54pm

In Yemen something like one person was probably killed tonight. In America? Probably close to 20.

86 Lidane  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:49:31pm

Apple Maps gets the inevitable Downfall treatment:

87 Belafon  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:51:17pm

Yes, I am the president, and I want my chocolate milk NOW!

88 Killgore Trout  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:52:43pm

re: #85 Gus

In Yemen something like one person was probably killed tonight. In America? Probably close to 20.

2 in Venezuela. A couple children in Kenya.

Thou shalt give equal worth to tragedies that occur in non-english speaking countries as to those that occur in english speaking countries.
Thou shalt remember that guns, bitches and bling were never part of the four elements and never will be.
Thou shalt not make repetitive generic music,
thou shalt not make repetitive generic music,
thou shalt not make repetitive generic music,
thou shalt not make repetitive generic music.

89 jaunte  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:55:10pm

re: #84 Killgore Trout

Venezuela is a sad mess.

Henrique Capriles, the governor of Miranda, a state encompassing parts of Caracas, told reporters last week [Aug., 2010] that Mr. Chávez had worsened the homicide problem by cutting money for state and city governments led by political opponents and then removing thousands of guns from their police forces after losing regional elections.
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

90 Gus  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:56:59pm

re: #88 Killgore Trout

2 in Venezuela. A couple children in Kenya.

[Embedded content]

So really we just pretend to care.

91 Killgore Trout  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:57:46pm

re: #90 Gus

So really we just pretend to care.

Fake it until you feel it. Do what you gotta do.

92 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 7:59:35pm

re: #52 Cannadian Club Akbar

Not sure what ADMAX is but howz about letting him swim to Florida and he gets citizenship? With a couple of fish dangling from his waist?

Is that the style now? Are onions out?

93 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 8:00:55pm

re: #57 Achilles Tang

I thought sponge bob was already underwater. Get it?

And you could force Sponge Bob through a sieve and he would just reassemble with no apparent harm.

94 Kragar  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 8:15:15pm

Obama camp: No ‘zingers’ at debate with Romney

President Barack Obama won't be using 'zingers' against Mitt Romney when they clash Wednesday in their first face-to-face debate, a campaign spokeswoman said Sunday. And while beer has featured prominently in recent campaign swings, Obama will be sure to reach out to soda-drinkers, too.

"This will be a very large audience," Jen Psaki told reporters aboard Air Force Once. "He wants to speak directly to the families -- the people who are on their couches at home, having snacks, drinking a beer, drinking soda, whatever it is, and tuning in for the first time -- and that's who he's speaking directly to."

"We also saw in reports that Mitt Romney and his team have been working on zingers and special lines for months," Psaki said. "That's not what the President's focus is on. So if you're expecting that, that's probably not what he's going to deliver on."

95 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 8:16:44pm

Image: ZZ34361F63.jpg

"Have you ever seen a Commie drink a glass of water, Mandrake? Vodka, that's what they drink, isn't it. Never water."

96 jaunte  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 8:22:14pm

Muslim "tv cleric" emulates Terry Jones' stunt, while other Egyptians criticize blasphemy laws:

Egyptian cleric faces blasphemy charge
Muslim television preacher to face charges after being video-taped burning a copy of the Bible.
[Link: www.aljazeera.com...]

97 bratwurst  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 8:25:05pm

re: #96 jaunte

Muslim "tv cleric" emulates Terry Jones' stunt, while other Egyptians criticize blasphemy laws:

Egyptian cleric faces blasphemy charge
Muslim television preacher to face charges after being video-taped burning a copy of the Bible.
[Link: www.aljazeera.com...]

As Mitt Romney says: sauce for the goose is now sauce for the gander.

98 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 8:30:48pm

'Is this Malia Obama? Would you consider getting involved with a younger man?"

Seriously, I think that kid with his little bow tie made one of my ovaries burst. Unbelievably cute.

99 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 8:32:27pm

re: #96 jaunte

Muslim "tv cleric" emulates Terry Jones' stunt, while other Egyptians criticize blasphemy laws:

Well whatayaknow? They are equal opportunity after all!

//

100 sagehen  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 8:34:22pm

Jay Smooth: what is the polite way to tell Mitt Romney's family that we think he's a weirdo?

101 JamesWI  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 8:36:08pm

Oh man, Chuck Woolery is just a massive pile of fail:

Ah yes. Black voters hate Obama. Which is why Romney has......0% of the black vote.

There are just too many levels of DERP in there to even respond.

102 jaunte  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 8:38:20pm

re: #100 sagehen

Yeah, that "my husband is weirdly miserly about hot water" story is a bad one.

103 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 8:40:10pm

re: #101 JamesWI

Oh man, Chuck Woolery is just a massive pile of fail:

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There are just too many levels of DERP in there to even respond.

So many Baghdad Bobs running around.

Also too, people who don't know anything about black people shouldn't display their ignorance in a public forum.

104 gwangung  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 8:41:25pm

re: #103 moderatelyradicalliberal

Also too, people who don't know anything about black people shouldn't display their ignorance in a public forum.

Not that this has stopped many Republicans....

105 jaunte  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 8:42:15pm

re: #101 JamesWI

Game show host/political pundit

106 Kragar  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 8:42:57pm

re: #101 JamesWI

Oh man, Chuck Woolery is just a massive pile of fail:

[Embedded content]

There are just too many levels of DERP in there to even respond.

I'll take "Dumbest Tweets ever" for $300, Alex.

107 Interesting Times  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 8:46:47pm

re: #101 JamesWI

Oh man, Chuck Woolery is just a massive pile of fail:

[Embedded content]

There are just too many levels of DERP in there to even respond.

108 jaunte  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 8:47:07pm
109 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 8:57:52pm

re: #100 sagehen

Jay Smooth: what is the polite way to tell Mitt Romney's family that we think he's a weirdo?

[Embedded content]

LOL!

110 Mr. Crankypants  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 8:58:05pm

re: #108 jaunte

A cartoon for dog lovers:
"An explosive paradox composed of fur, teeth, and enthusiasm"

that's the best part of owning a dog. when you just can't see that getting out of bed is remotely worth it, your dog is ready to go out and seize the day, dragging you behind.

111 HappyWarrior  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 8:58:52pm

re: #101 JamesWI

Oh man, Chuck Woolery is just a massive pile of fail:

[Embedded content]

There are just too many levels of DERP in there to even respond.

There they go again. Obama's not Carter and Romney's not Reagan. In fact when it comes to style, Obama's more closer to Reagan than Romney because Obama projects optimism as opposed to Mitt's doom and gloom attitude.

112 andres  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 9:00:53pm

re: #94 Kragar

Obama camp: No ‘zingers’ at debate with Romney

*zing*

Wit can be practiced, some (expected) retorts can be learned, but the quip most be spontaneous. Otherwise, it may look forced unless the situation matches it perfectly.

113 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 9:02:06pm

You want a caption here?

I just want to trade Annoying Fake baby for that kid.

114 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 9:03:59pm

We had to take AFB to church today. Since you can ask for them to be "off" during set times like that, it was a lot quieter than a normal baby is during church.

115 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 9:06:10pm

re: #113 Mostly sane, most of the time.

You want a caption here?

I just want to trade Annoying Fake baby for that kid.

Why do you have that thing around, anyways?

116 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 9:07:36pm

re: #115 Dark_Falcon

Why do you have that thing around, anyways?

The Princess is in early childhood development at school, and this is her weekend.

Starting next weekend, we have band competition after band competition.

117 Mattand  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 9:08:45pm

re: #108 jaunte

A cartoon for dog lovers:
"An explosive paradox composed of fur, teeth, and enthusiasm"

As depressing as my advancing age is at times, it's heartbreaking to watch my dog through his own.

118 Mattand  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 9:11:19pm

re: #101 JamesWI

119 HappyWarrior  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 9:13:47pm

re: #118 Mattand

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The whole Obama's lost the black vote due to gay marriage and the birth control is so insultingly stupid. Yeah there aren't black people who are gay or have gay friends and family whose rights they want to see respected under the law. Ditto using birth control without being made feel like you're somehow a loose woman.

120 jaunte  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 9:16:44pm

re: #118 Mattand

Woolery has been reading Newsmax.

Wayne Allyn Root: "Black voters: Obama has nowhere to go but down among this group. His endorsement of gay marriage has alienated many black church-going Christians. He may get 88% of their vote instead of the 96% he got in 2008. This is not good news for Obama."

121 engineer cat  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 9:17:40pm

At this point in the Reagan Carter contest Carter was ahead by 9 points in polls. Obama Romney are tied now. Romney will win by a landslide

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122 jaunte  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 9:18:26pm

Emperor penguins under the Aurora Australis
[Link: spaceweather.com...]

123 Mattand  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 9:19:33pm

re: #119 HappyWarrior

The whole Obama's lost the black vote due to gay marriage and the birth control is so insultingly stupid. Yeah there aren't black people who are gay or have gay friends and family whose rights they want to see respected under the law. Ditto using birth control without being made feel like you're somehow a loose woman.

You want to be conservative, fine. You don't like Obama, fine. Just live in reality with the rest of us.

124 engineer cat  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 9:19:46pm

re: #113 Mostly sane, most of the time.

You want a caption here?

I just want to trade Annoying Fake baby for that kid.

real children have no off switch

125 HappyWarrior  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 9:20:37pm

re: #120 jaunte

Woolery has been reading Newsmax.

They say that but they never back that up. Whole thing seems like wishful thinking. Just like Herman Cain claiming that he would do better than any Republican since Eisenhower with the black vote. It shocks and pisses off the right wing but they're a big part of the reason why African Americans don't like nor trust the Republican Party. They don't forget that Nixon who had once been a champion of Civil Rights decided he'd rather pander to Strom Thurmond than try to make in roads with the AA community.

126 HappyWarrior  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 9:21:37pm

re: #123 Mattand

You want to be conservative, fine. You don't like Obama, fine. Just live in reality with the rest of us.

Yep. Though for people like that the former is part of the latter..

127 Lidane  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 9:21:55pm

Fake but accurate!

128 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 9:23:06pm

re: #124 engineer cat

real children have no off switch

All my dad had to do was glance at us. He didn't even have to raise his voice.
Might as well have been an off switch.

129 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 9:23:37pm

re: #119 HappyWarrior

I just love the idea of Chuck Woolery prognosticating on the black vote. That's some surreal shit.

130 HappyWarrior  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 9:24:23pm

re: #127 Lidane

Fake but accurate!

[Embedded content]

Haha, yeah I can see it now, Ahmadinjad a hit with rural white Americans. Gotta love the delusion of that regime.

131 HappyWarrior  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 9:25:49pm

re: #129 goddamnedfrank

I just love the idea of Chuck Woolery prognosticating on the black vote. That's some surreal shit.

Same thing with Root.

132 freetoken  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 9:27:03pm

Pew: Half of US adults own tablet or smartphone

Americans' news habits are on the move.

Half of all adult Americans now own either a tablet computer or a smartphone, and one-third use their mobile devices to view news stories and video clips at least once a week.

[...]

We're Americans.
We are always on the move.

133 Lidane  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 9:27:54pm

Cue the howls of outrage from the usual suspects in 3...2...1...

Calif. Officially Bans Ex-Gay Therapy For Youths

California Gov. Jerry Brown signed legislation to put an end to so-called ex-gay therapy against LGBT youth, making his the first state to protect young people from such practices.

The law goes into effect January 1, 2013, and prohibits state-licensed therapists from engaging in "reparative therapy" with minors. Advocates for the bill say that conversion therapy uses dangerous tactics that place youth at a high risk of depression and suicide.

134 jaunte  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 9:28:14pm

re: #132 freetoken

I'm looking for a tiny garbage can to protect mine from EMP.

135 HappyWarrior  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 9:28:27pm

re: #132 freetoken

Pew: Half of US adults own tablet or smartphone

We're Americans.
We are always on the move.

Well we can thank guys like my Dad for that and the whole evolution of cell phones. He was selling the big ass ones way back in the day. Can't imagine life without my Droid honestly. I know it's kind of sad but I have such a terrible sense of direction that my Droid and its GPS is often my saving grace.

136 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 9:29:07pm

re: #132 freetoken

Pew: Half of US adults own tablet or smartphone

We're Americans.
We are always on the move.

My ancestors stopped because they hit the Pacific Ocean.

137 HappyWarrior  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 9:29:17pm

re: #133 Lidane

Cue the howls of outrage from the usual suspects in 3...2...1...

Calif. Officially Bans Ex-Gay Therapy For Youths

Of course, they're going to claim this is discrimination against their religious beliefs. Totally ignoring that they want to use their religion to torment kids. Good on the state of California for doing this. The Ex-Gay therapy movement is a sham.

138 freetoken  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 9:30:00pm

Bringing up a topic I mentioned yesterday, around this area this election year is turning out to be remarkably, noticeably, quiet.

By which I mean few (if any) political signs, campaigners in person (or truck). As I linked on Saturday, there was a "Politifest" in town and I didn't even know it was happening, and by looking at the pictures of the event it seems very few people showed up, even though there were some major candidates.

So, I'm wondering what is happening here.

Will turnout be extremely low?

If that happens, Mitt just might win.

139 jaunte  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 9:33:28pm

During the Coolidge administration,
the White House pet was a raccoon named Rebecca
[Link: twitpic.com...]

140 jaunte  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 9:34:17pm

Warren Harding had a pet squirrel named Pete
[Link: twitter.com...]

141 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 9:34:52pm

Yeah, well, Teddy Roosevelt's pets were the quietest, and they never pooped on the carpet.

142 jaunte  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 9:35:43pm

Nancy Reagan with Alf
[Link: twitter.com...]

I'm not sure what started Andrew Kaczynski on this topic.

143 freetoken  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 9:35:49pm

Republican strength in congress aids super-rich, president's affiliation has no effect

Republican strength in Congress increases the share of income held by the top 1 percent, but the president's political affiliation has no effect, suggests a new study in the October issue of the American Sociological Review that looks at the rise of the super-rich in the United States.

"This points to the central role that Congress has in the legislative process," said study co-author Thomas W. Volscho, an Assistant Professor of Sociology at CUNY-College of Staten Island. "The president has limited ability to make the sort of legislative changes necessary to affect the top 1 percent without the support of Congress, making Congress the central actor here."

[...]

While Volscho and Kelly found that Republican strength in Congress was associated with higher levels of inequality, the link between politics and inequality was not merely due to redistribution, as the study was based on income, including capital gains, prior to taxes and transfers.

"Democrats are more favorable than Republicans toward social programs that redistribute income, but the parties also differ over what the economic rules of the game should be," Volscho said. "Based on our analysis, Democrats appear to favor an economic system that produces more egalitarian outcomes even before any redistribution occurs."

[...]

MARXIST!! Professor, no doubt.

144 JamesWI  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 9:36:01pm

re: #138 freetoken

Bringing up a topic I mentioned yesterday, around this area this election year is turning out to be remarkably, noticeably, quiet.

By which I mean few (if any) political signs, campaigners in person (or truck). As I linked on Saturday, there was a "Politifest" in town and I didn't even know it was happening, and by looking at the pictures of the event it seems very few people showed up, even though there were some major candidates.

So, I'm wondering what is happening here.

Will turnout be extremely low?

If that happens, Mitt just might win.

I think there was a risk of low turnout. I think that risk has been pretty much completely abated by Mitt Romney continuing to open his mouth.

145 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 9:36:46pm

re: #138 freetoken

Bringing up a topic I mentioned yesterday, around this area this election year is turning out to be remarkably, noticeably, quiet.

By which I mean few (if any) political signs, campaigners in person (or truck). As I linked on Saturday, there was a "Politifest" in town and I didn't even know it was happening, and by looking at the pictures of the event it seems very few people showed up, even though there were some major candidates.

So, I'm wondering what is happening here.

Will turnout be extremely low?

If that happens, Mitt just might win.

Burn-out.
Even I am ready for the campaigning to be over. Looking forward to the debates, but Nov. can't get here soon enough.

146 HappyWarrior  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 9:38:09pm

re: #144 JamesWI

I think there was a risk of low turnout. I think that risk has been pretty much completely abated by Mitt Romney continuing to open his mouth.

I know this much. I've never seen my mom who is usually fairly apolitical so disgusted with a candidate. She was furious with his total nonchalant reaction to Limbaugh acting like a pig and the 47% bullshit pissed her off personally and I don't blame her knowing how hard she's worked to get to where she is now. And she's why I take it very personally when Mitt and other right wingers attack people who make their careers in the government because I know how hard my mom has worked.

147 freetoken  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 9:38:10pm

Heh, about those skewed polls...

Obama, Romney in tight race, new poll finds

148 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 9:39:03pm

re: #141 Mostly sane, most of the time.

Yeah, well, Teddy Roosevelt's pets were the quietest, and they never pooped on the carpet.

Are you referring to living animals, or those made into display pieces via taxidermy?

149 freetoken  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 9:39:33pm

re: #145 Reverend Mother Ramallo

The race for 2016 is already on.

There were those here who scoffed when some of us mentioned in 2008 that the 2012 GOP candidate list was already nailed down, and that it would include Romney.

The people with the most to lose play the long game.

150 Lidane  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 9:43:30pm

re: #149 freetoken

The people with the most to lose play the long game.

Which explains why the RNC keynote speech by Chris Christie barely mentioned Mitt Romney at all, and why all the major players in the party sat this election out. They're all expecting Barack Obama to win a second term, which would make 2016 an open run at the White House.

151 freetoken  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 9:44:52pm

re: #150 Lidane

Mitt Romney is the new Bob Dole.

I wonder if he'll also do Viagra commericals?

152 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 9:45:52pm

re: #148 Dark_Falcon

Are you referring to living animals, or those made into display pieces via taxidermy?

Yep. You got it. The original no-fuss pet.

153 Lidane  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 9:46:31pm

re: #151 freetoken

Mitt Romney is the new Bob Dole.

Dole ran a better campaign.

At this point, I'm putting Romney firmly in Dukakis territory. He's run an embarrassingly bad campaign so far. They've done everything wrong.

154 HappyWarrior  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 9:47:22pm

I think one of the big turning points in the campaign was SCOTUS upholding ACA's constitutionality. Man oh man the right and Romney seemed so confident that there was no way that Roberts would let it be affirmed. Hell, I still remember Mitt bragging the night before SCOTUS announced the decision here in Virginia that he knew that White House wasn't sleeping well. I really don't think they had a Plan B for SCOTUS upholding ACA. I still think despite the fact that ACA isn't exactly popular that having its legality upheld has helped its political legitimacy a ton and thus Obama's too. We heard how that legislation was unconstitutional, unAmerican, and even from people like Sarah Palin that it would lead to death panels. I think many people are seeing that the Tea Party bullshit about health care was just that and then they see Mitt Romney. A man who championed similar legislation as governor pandering to that and I don't think they like that.

155 HappyWarrior  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 9:48:26pm

re: #153 Lidane

Dole ran a better campaign.

At this point, I'm putting Romney firmly in Dukakis territory. He's run an embarrassingly bad campaign so far. They've done everything wrong.

At least Dukakis picked a decent running mate. Seriously Romney and Ryan together look like a father and son con-artist team. "Buy this elixir, it will cure all your ills!"

156 freetoken  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 9:48:28pm

Meanwhile, elsewhere in the world:

Pakistan youth court hears 'blasphemy' case

A Pakistani juvenile court is expected to hear Monday the case of a Christian teenage girl accused of violating blasphemy laws by allegedly burning pages containing texts from the Quran.

An Islamabad court ordered the case transferred to juvenile court last week after a police investigation concluded that an imam framed the girl, Rimsha.

The imam, Khalid Jadoon Chishti, is scheduled to appear at a separate court hearing Monday after he was arrested last month on accusations of evidence tampering. Police have said he could face blasphemy charges, a dramatic twist in the saga.

The 14-year-old Rimsha had been held in an adult jail before she was released on bail in September. The transfer of her case to juvenile court is a good sign, a rights group says.

"This is a precursor to the case ending, and that is quite unprecedented in the 25-year history of Pakistan's blasphemy laws," said Ali Dayan Hasan, the Pakistan director of Human Rights Watch.

Police have submitted their findings that Rimsha was framed to the court. Pakistani courts usually go with what police recommend [...]

157 Lidane  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 9:51:18pm

re: #155 HappyWarrior

At least Dukakis picked a decent running mate. Seriously Romney and Ryan together look like a father and son con-artist team. "Buy this elixir, it will cure all your ills!"

If Mitt Romney and his team had actually run a campaign of ideas, Ryan might have been of some use. Instead, Mitt has barely articulated what he stands for and there's just over a month left in the campaign. He's never taken a specific position on anything except to say that he's not Barack Obama.

No wonder Paul Ryan has pretty much given up and gone back to campaigning for his House seat. I wouldn't bother with a presidential campaign as bad as Romney's either, even if I was on the ticket.

158 freetoken  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 9:53:46pm
159 HappyWarrior  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 9:54:13pm

re: #157 Lidane

If Mitt Romney and his team had actually run a campaign of ideas, Ryan might have been of some use. Instead, Mitt has barely articulated what he stands for and there's just over a month left in the campaign. He's never taken a specific position on anything except to say that he's not Barack Obama.

No wonder Paul Ryan has pretty much given up and gone back to campaigning for his House seat. I wouldn't bother with a presidential campaign as bad as Romney's either, even if I was on the ticket.

Yeah they pick him for the Ryan Plan and then they try to say "Well we don't always agree." No shit, sherlock, but without the Ryan Plan, Paul Ryan is another fish in the fish bowl that is the US House of Representatives with shit little to say his name. I bet Ryan's pissed at them for choosing him and then running away from his ideas. And honestly, even though I find Ryan and his ideas repugnant, I wouldn't blame him. You don't choose someone for ideological reasons and then do what they've done.

160 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 9:57:48pm

Good Night, all.

161 Lidane  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 10:00:42pm

re: #159 HappyWarrior

I bet Ryan's pissed at them for choosing him and then running away from his ideas. And honestly, even though I find Ryan and his ideas repugnant, I wouldn't blame him. You don't choose someone for ideological reasons and then do what they've done.

He didn't look all that happy in the screen caps I saw from his interview on Faux News today.

I would be pissed too. They basically chose him as an obvious pander to the wingnut base then screwed him over and hung him out to dry by running from all his ideas. Now he has to try and salvage his House seat when in a real campaign for POTUS he'd be out there giving speeches and doing rallies and having some sort of policy agenda to defend for his running mate. He's got to be livid behind the scenes.

162 HappyWarrior  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 10:01:17pm

I've seen a rare positive Romney ad as of late. It comes across so forced to me like Mitt's thinking "Man, I don't want to be positive, I want to accuse Obama of apologizing and appeasement. Why do I have to pay lip service to tax relief for the middle class when I really care about tax relief for the wealthy""

163 HappyWarrior  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 10:02:28pm

re: #161 Lidane

He didn't look all that happy in the screen caps I saw from his interview on Faux News today.

I would be pissed too. They basically chose him as an obvious pander to the wingnut base then screwed him over and hung him out to dry by running from all his ideas. Now he has to try and salvage his House seat when in a real campaign for POTUS he'd be out there giving speeches and doing rallies and having some sort of policy agenda to defend for his running mate. He's got to be livid behind the scenes.

It also made the DCCC focus more on his congressional seat than they otherwise would. I'm sure Ryan would if defeated find something outside of politics to do but he's a political lifer.

164 Dancing along the light of day  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 10:08:51pm

re: #129 goddamnedfrank

You crack me up!

165 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 10:29:45pm

Mitt Romney's ads, to me, are whiny and condescending.
Here's one that particularly irks me...

166 HappyWarrior  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 10:35:52pm

re: #165 Reverend Mother Ramallo

Mitt Romney's ads, to me, are whiny and condescending.
Here's one that particularly irks me...

I've only seen that one once but that's a really bad one. I've mostly seen the American crossroads one with the small business owners and I particularly cringe when the one guy says "he treats us like we're his enemy." I just sigh knowing that it's on behalf of a guy like Mitt who cares more about corporations than small businesses succeeding in the economy. I really haven't been impressed really with any of his ads. As I said, his rare positive one I've seen seems forced and insincere. I think the best Obama one I've seen has been on education because it shows how little Mitt understands how important things like small class sizes are to parents.

167 Kragar  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 10:37:38pm

Note to self: Chopped spinach can really clean out the pipes.

168 sagehen  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 10:38:09pm

re: #165 Reverend Mother Ramallo

Mitt Romney's ads, to me, are whiny and condescending.
Here's one that particularly irks me...

If you're going to put out an ad supposedly to women, about women, for women... it helps if it's not the just same general ad you've already done but now you search and replace "woman" for "person".

169 Targetpractice  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 10:43:00pm

Note to self: Don't play Civ 5 without a timer to remind you to take a break every hour.

170 Mattand  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 10:45:49pm

re: #141 Mostly sane, most of the time.

Yeah, well, Teddy Roosevelt's pets were the quietest, and they never pooped on the carpet.

Mostly because they were stuffed and mounted.

171 HappyWarrior  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 10:45:52pm

re: #169 Targetpractice

Note to self: Don't play Civ 5 without a timer to remind you to take a break every hour.

You picking a fight with Gandhi?

172 Targetpractice  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 10:48:01pm

re: #171 HappyWarrior

You picking a fight with Gandhi?

Haven't run into him yet. But I've wiped out China and Japan so far. Granted, China wasn't much of a fight, only having two cities.

173 HappyWarrior  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 10:50:18pm

re: #172 Targetpractice

Haven't run into him yet. But I've wiped out China and Japan so far. Granted, China wasn't much of a fight, only having two cities.

Sweet. I'm terrible at that game. I really enjoy it though.

174 Kragar  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 10:52:22pm

re: #169 Targetpractice

Note to self: Don't play Civ 5 without a timer to remind you to take a break every hour.

Haven't played my copy yet, busy with other stuff.

175 Targetpractice  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 10:53:00pm

re: #174 Kragar

Haven't played my copy yet, busy with other stuff.

Let me know when you do. Wouldn't mind the chance to challenge a human player. The AI can only be so creative.

176 Kragar  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 10:57:10pm

re: #175 Targetpractice

Let me know when you do. Wouldn't mind the chance to challenge a human player. The AI can only be so creative.

Probably not getting to it anytime soon.

177 Targetpractice  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 10:58:27pm

re: #176 Kragar

Probably not getting to it anytime soon.

No prob. I'm still working on the various victories. Only have domination and score victories left.

178 Kragar  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 11:01:26pm

re: #177 Targetpractice

No prob. I'm still working on the various victories. Only have domination and score victories left.

Getting ready for some league play this week. New Chaos codex is out next weekend, and then XCOM, I'm swamped.

179 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 11:02:33pm

Speaking of cute kids, I wouldn't post current pics of my family but this is quite a few years old:

Me with a couple of future PhDs in 1983.

180 Targetpractice  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 11:05:08pm

re: #178 Kragar

Getting ready for some league play this week. New Chaos codex is out next weekend, and then XCOM, I'm swamped.

Yeah, I'm counting down the days til XCOM releases. The trailer was great, but the demo sealed the deal for me.

181 Kragar  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 11:08:08pm

re: #180 Targetpractice

Yeah, I'm counting down the days til XCOM releases. The trailer was great, but the demo sealed the deal for me.

I like the move/double move or attack, plus the swap to cinematics during gameplay.

182 Targetpractice  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 11:10:45pm

re: #181 Kragar

I like the move/double move or attack, plus the swap to cinematics during gameplay.

Think the cinematics are what make it for me, the immersion into the game. Like I said the other day, I could definitely see a Fallout game made in the same style.

183 Kragar  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 11:14:24pm

re: #182 Targetpractice

Think the cinematics are what make it for me, the immersion into the game. Like I said the other day, I could definitely see a Fallout game made in the same style.

I like the fact that it actually encourages tactical gameplay.

184 Targetpractice  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 11:17:10pm

re: #183 Kragar

I like the fact that it actually encourages tactical gameplay.

Yeah. Penalizes you if you just rush in headfirst, while encouraging you to seek higher ground, to flank enemies, and to take cover into consideration when choosing where to move.

185 freetoken  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 11:17:19pm
186 Kragar  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 11:23:50pm

re: #184 Targetpractice

Yeah. Penalizes you if you just rush in headfirst, while encouraging you to seek higher ground, to flank enemies, and to take cover into consideration when choosing where to move.

Yeah, I was setting my sniper and heavy while my other 2 guys scouted and set in, moved up my support, then repeated. Awesomeness.

187 Targetpractice  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 11:26:33pm

re: #186 Kragar

Yeah, I was setting my sniper and heavy while my other 2 guys scouted and set in, moved up my support, then repeated. Awesomeness.

Did you end up with only one guy left standing in the end too?

188 Kragar  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 11:29:33pm

re: #187 Targetpractice

Did you end up with only one guy left standing in the end too?

The first mission, the tutorial, you lose 3 out of 4. If you continue, you get to run a second mission where you get a lot more freedom to make your own decisions, with a team of one rifleman, one shotgunner, one heavy and one sniper.

189 Targetpractice  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 11:31:41pm

re: #188 Kragar

The first mission, the tutorial, you lose 3 out of 4. If you continue, you get to run a second mission where you get a lot more freedom to make your own decisions, with a team of one rifleman, one shotgunner, one heavy and one sniper.

Yeah, I managed to get through that with no problem. But the whole "last man standing" scenario in the tutorial seems forced. Kobayashi Maru.

190 Kragar  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 11:34:56pm

re: #189 Targetpractice

Yeah, I managed to get through that with no problem. But the whole "last man standing" scenario in the tutorial seems forced. Kobayashi Maru.

Eh, it was the tutorial, slack will be cut. Hopefully its skippable on the full version

191 Targetpractice  Sun, Sep 30, 2012 11:37:27pm

re: #190 Kragar

Eh, it was the tutorial, slack will be cut. Hopefully its skippable on the full version

Be nice if installing the game just took the data from the demo so you didn't have to play the whole thing over again.

192 freetoken  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 12:08:00am

Dean Martin had what Mitt Romney doesn't.

193 freetoken  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 12:11:49am
194 Kragar  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 12:19:10am

re: #192 freetoken

Dean Martin had what Mitt Romney doesn't.

Sammy Davis Jr?

195 Targetpractice  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 12:21:50am

re: #192 freetoken

Dean Martin had what Mitt Romney doesn't.

A drinking problem?

196 MittDoesNotCompute  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 12:22:54am

re: #192 freetoken

Dean Martin had what Mitt Romney doesn't.

Talent?

197 MittDoesNotCompute  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 12:23:47am

re: #194 Kragar

Sammy Davis Jr?

Well, Martin had Jerry Lewis before he had Sammy and the rest of the Rat Pack.

198 freetoken  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 12:23:50am

That was from 1964, a year in American Pop that in retrospect looks kind of strange. The Beatles made their big splash that year and the ripples sort of disturbed the pond, so to speak.

In "easy listening" pop there were some really big hits that year (Armstrong, Streisand, Martin), but as far as "rock and roll" only a few artists/groups had hits that 48 years later are worth another hearing, and it's a short list:

So many of the "rock and roll" hits of that year really haven't aged well and sound quite dated, "period" pieces.

199 freetoken  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 12:26:12am

re: #196 Gert Fröbe

Talent?

Heh, that one is too easy.

re: #195 Targetpractice

re: #194 Kragar

This

200 researchok  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 12:30:04am

Morning, all

201 Kragar  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 12:31:15am

re: #198 freetoken

Ronnie Dio And The Prophets - The Way Of Love 1964

202 researchok  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 12:33:55am

re: #185 freetoken

Unexpected.

I like it.

203 researchok  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 12:45:45am

re: #193 freetoken

re: #198 freetoken

Timeless

Really, really timeless.

204 BongCrodny  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 12:46:32am

re: #192 freetoken

Dean Martin had what Mitt Romney doesn't.

An idiot sidekick?

No, that can't be it...

205 researchok  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 12:48:44am

re: #201 Kragar

Another blast from the past

206 researchok  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 12:52:19am

1961, not 1964 but a classic of the time for sure

207 Kragar  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 1:00:47am

Obviously, we need someone to give us a quick lesson about early rock.

Luckily, I know just who can give us one.

208 Kragar  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 1:06:22am

I think we've all been the driver at least once...

Just wait for it.

209 freetoken  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 1:07:52am

re: #207 Kragar

I don't know how I feel about American music in the 1970's - I think it went every which direction, and we ended up with Disco.

In Japan a certain vein of pop music had developed, though, which has its own interests:

If you have to ask for a translation, well, here's a pic of back cover of the album.

210 Kragar  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 1:11:11am

re: #209 freetoken

I don't know how I feel about American music in the 1970's - I think it went every which direction, and we ended up with Disco.

In Japan a certain vein of pop music had developed, though, which has its own interests:

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If you have to ask for a translation, well, here's a pic of back cover of the album.

American rock seemed to veer off into the glam movement for far too long, while real hard rock and early metal was growing oversees.

211 AK-47%  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 1:15:54am

I went to Indiana University starting in 1976 and seem to recall tht you could walk around the dorm halls at any time of day or night and hear the sounds of Boston, Dreamboat Annie by Heart, Ted Nugent Live, Peter Frapmpton Comes Alive, Steve Miller Band and Leftoverture by Kansas coming from behind a towel-stuffed doorway.

I had all but given up on rock at that point and was listening to ear-bending progressive jazz/fusion.

212 Kragar  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 1:25:56am

Iron Maiden- Phantom Of The Opera - 1980

213 freetoken  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 1:40:01am

re: #210 Kragar

Let me add to my previous statement about American pop musical evolution of the '70's with what I will now refer to as Freetoken's Fundamental Rule of Musical Evolution:

When you end up with Disco, you've done something wrong.

214 BongCrodny  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 2:14:18am

Morning, all.

I want to post something here that doesn't pass the smell test. Not sure there's enough relevant information for a page (since I've never posted a page it makes me even more uncertain, and since the woman in question is not a public figure, I'm even less likely to want to go out on that limb).

I saw an ad last night for Mitt Romney called "Why I Changed My Vote," featuring testimonials from a number of women who were changing their vote from President Obama to Mitt Romney.

While most of the testimonials seemed authentic, one woman's words did not -- she just seemed a bit too polished. Her name was "Jodi C.," and she claimed to be a lifelong Democrat who voted for President Obama, but was now switching to Mitt Romney.

A link to a site called winfield411.com provided me a little more information, that "Jodi C.'s" name is Jodi Carroll, and she's from Winfield, Illinois.

Jodi Carroll's Facebook page -- and you can see from her picture that she's the same woman featured in the ad -- has a number of likes:

-- Paul Ryan
-- Marco Rubio
-- CEO's for Liberty
-- Tea Party Freedom
-- John Stossel
-- Libertarian Party of Illinois
-- "Conservative"
-- "I Built It"
-- Republican National Committee
-- "I'm a Libertarian and You Would Be Too, If You Knew What It Was"
-- Gary Johnson
-- Fox News
-- Jeff Flake
-- National Right To Work
-- Doctors 4 Patient Care (an organization dedicated to overturning the Affordable Healthcare Act).

She also supports the following candidates for various offices: Arie Friedman, Mark Neerhof, Peter Roskam, Jeanne Ives and Mark Green.

All are Republicans.

I'm not saying Ms. Carroll is lying -- she may very well have voted for Obama -- but she appears to be one of the unlikeliest "lifelong Democrats" I've ever seen.

215 iossarian  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 2:17:52am

re: #214 BongCrodny

Lifelong Democrat my posterior.

Good catch.

216 AK-47%  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 2:20:39am

re: #215 iossarian

Lifelong Democrat my posterior.

Good catch.

She must've voted for a Democratic dog catcher once in 1996...

217 freetoken  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 2:24:41am

re: #214 BongCrodny

Not sure there's enough relevant information for a page (since I've never posted a page it makes me even more uncertain, ...

Go for it. No better time than the present to try something new.

218 iossarian  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 2:24:48am

re: #216 AK-47%

She must've voted for a Democratic dog catcher once in 1996...

Maybe she grew up in the South in the 50s.

219 freetoken  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 2:25:24am

Remember, there were many "old time" Democrats who were such because of the Depression, but otherwise were of the atavist variety.

220 iossarian  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 2:25:27am

"I voted for Southern Democrats until the Republicans became the racist party. Then I switched."

221 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 3:38:08am

Morning Honcos.

222 Obdicut  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 3:40:07am

I've decided I'm going to go back to college and eventually get a masters in social work. This is partially precipitated by being in NYC; if I was back in SF, I'd probably be working in high tech, but the jobs in NYC are overwhelmingly marketing and advertising and I just don't want to do that.

It's going to be really weird to be back in school again.

223 iossarian  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 3:41:36am

re: #222 Obdicut

I've decided I'm going to go back to college and eventually get a masters in social work. This is partially precipitated by being in NYC; if I was back in SF, I'd probably be working in high tech, but the jobs in NYC are overwhelmingly marketing and advertising and I just don't want to do that.

It's going to be really weird to be back in school again.

Higher education FTW. Do you have schools in mind?

224 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 3:47:02am

re: #222 Obdicut

The first thing I did when I moved was to contact the CC here. Mailing out my last bit of info today. I have to send my W-2 to them since I didn't file taxes last year. (I didn't make enough to bother) A Pell grant should cover my expenses as far as skool goes. I might have to get a Stafford loan. When I was in skool I was carrying 15 hours and working 45hrs/wk. I'm not doing that again.

225 Obdicut  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 3:47:32am

re: #223 iossarian

Higher education FTW. Do you have schools in mind?

Probably a CUNY. I'm investigating their outcomes right now-- how many students get jobs-- but they have a master's programs, they're far cheaper than NYU, and more used to older students like me.

I was so half-assed the first time I was in college. I really should have taken a couple of years off before college before I went, to smarten up a little. The mistakes I made back then seem trivially easy to avoid now.

226 iossarian  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 4:07:17am

re: #225 Obdicut

Probably a CUNY. I'm investigating their outcomes right now-- how many students get jobs-- but they have a master's programs, they're far cheaper than NYU, and more used to older students like me.

I was so half-assed the first time I was in college. I really should have taken a couple of years off before college before I went, to smarten up a little. The mistakes I made back then seem trivially easy to avoid now.

I hope you find some good outcomes information - it's notoriously hard to get accurate data in that area, and not just because colleges try to avoid releasing anything that might make them look bad - it's just hard to actually collect accurate data in the first place. If you're doing a professional masters to go for a non-academic job then obviously networking opportunities are critical.

I sometimes wish I could go back to college and actually focus on learning stuff rather than making friends and having fun. Youth wasted on the young etc. Having said that I don't really regret it - college was a lot of fun and I did actually learn some stuff that I still use from time to time.

227 Obdicut  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 4:29:47am

re: #226 iossarian

I hope you find some good outcomes information - it's notoriously hard to get accurate data in that area, and not just because colleges try to avoid releasing anything that might make them look bad - it's just hard to actually collect accurate data in the first place.

Yeah, the main thing I've found is a report by the NY DOE criticizing the CUNYs for the lack of outcome assessment done at the higher level. That was a few years ago, maybe they've stepped up.

My wife is pushing me to try NYU instead but they're literally about 8 times as expensive. I don't know if it's worth the difference.

If you're doing a professional masters to go for a non-academic job then obviously networking opportunities are critical.

I want to be a LCSW, but I know I'm going to wind up back in California, so the networking will not be actually all that useful over here. However, my wife is going to be a doctor, and so I'll be able to network through her, too.

228 Shropshire_Slasher  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 4:30:16am

On this day 18 years, under soggy skies, my beautiful bride and I were married. Two kids and several pets later I wouldn't change a thing. I bought here 800 square feet of hard wood flooring, I know always the romantic.

229 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 4:32:32am

re: #228 Shropshire_Slasher

On this day 18 years, under soggy skies, my beautiful bride and I were married. Two kids and several pets later I wouldn't change a thing. I bought here 800 square feet of hard wood flooring, I know always the romantic.

Next year you can buy her a mop. She'll love it.
/

230 Obdicut  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 4:40:05am

re: #228 Shropshire_Slasher

On this day 18 years, under soggy skies, my beautiful bride and I were married. Two kids and several pets later I wouldn't change a thing. I bought here 800 square feet of hard wood flooring, I know always the romantic.

Congrats, man.

231 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 4:43:44am

Navy's green plan for Pearl Harbor runway draws fire
"Consider the hue and cry should a 60,000-panel project be located at Gettysburg or Valley Forge," the museum said in a written statement. DeHoff says the museum suggested the Navy build the solar panel array at West Loch, an unused area to the west of the airfield on Waipio Peninsula, but he says the Navy rejected the alternative location because it was within the "blast arc," or minimum safe distance, of an area where the Navy stores ammunition.
[Link: www.usatoday.com...]

232 Shropshire_Slasher  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 4:47:23am

Thankyou Obdicut and CCA, it is appreciated.

233 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 4:55:30am

Man, talk about taking one for the team!!!
Brazilian student sells virginity to build homes for the poor

[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]

234 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 5:00:07am

re: #231 Cannadian Club Akbar

Navy's green plan for Pearl Harbor runway draws fire
"Consider the hue and cry should a 60,000-panel project be located at Gettysburg or Valley Forge," the museum said in a written statement. DeHoff says the museum suggested the Navy build the solar panel array at West Loch, an unused area to the west of the airfield on Waipio Peninsula, but he says the Navy rejected the alternative location because it was within the "blast arc," or minimum safe distance, of an area where the Navy stores ammunition.
[Link: www.usatoday.com...]

Tough one, but a good argument to have.

235 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 5:02:07am

re: #228 Shropshire_Slasher

On this day 18 years, under soggy skies, my beautiful bride and I were married. Two kids and several pets later I wouldn't change a thing. I bought here 800 square feet of hard wood flooring, I know always the romantic.

Congratulations, kids.

Like your flooring theme. Wife got non-slip tile in her kitchen for our 45th.

236 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 5:07:39am

It's morning. The dogs told me.

you?

237 The Left  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 5:10:49am

re: #228 Shropshire_Slasher

On this day 18 years, under soggy skies, my beautiful bride and I were married. Two kids and several pets later I wouldn't change a thing. I bought here 800 square feet of hard wood flooring, I know always the romantic.

Congratulations!

238 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 5:12:28am

re: #227 Obdicut

Yeah, the main thing I've found is a report by the NY DOE criticizing the CUNYs for the lack of outcome assessment done at the higher level. That was a few years ago, maybe they've stepped up.

My wife is pushing me to try NYU instead but they're literally about 8 times as expensive. I don't know if it's worth the difference.

I want to be a LCSW, but I know I'm going to wind up back in California, so the networking will not be actually all that useful over here. However, my wife is going to be a doctor, and so I'll be able to network through her, too.

Before costs drove us to KY and their community college system I put in for CCNY. Do they go as far as a master's program? They had a great history of graduating some gritty 'doers'.

239 Obdicut  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 5:16:39am

re: #238 Decatur Deb

Before costs drove us to KY and their community college system I put in for CCNY. Do they go as far as a master's program? They had a great history of graduating some gritty 'doers'.

CCNY is one part of CUNY. The social work program seems to be concentrated at Hunter College rather than at City, but I'm still in early days of figuring out this byzantine noodle. Hunter is also much closer to me, so that'd be nice.

240 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 5:18:52am

re: #239 Obdicut

CCNY is one part of CUNY. The social work program seems to be concentrated at Hunter College rather than at City, but I'm still in early days of figuring out this byzantine noodle. Hunter is also much closer to me, so that'd be nice.

Just stay away from 'Hudson College'. That's where all the axe murderers, terrorists and serial rapists go.

241 Obdicut  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 5:21:24am

re: #240 Decatur Deb

Just stay away from 'Hudson College'. That's where all the axe murderers, terrorists and serial rapists go.

There's actually one school in the CUNY system that tanks their ratings. It has something like a 25% 6 year graduation rate. I don't know what they're doing there, but they're doing it wrong.

The CUNY system excluding that school has a bad 4-year graduation rate, but a perfectly fine (comparable to normal state schools) 6-year graduation rate.

I think I'm going to CUNY it, unless some big pile of money pops up out of the blue.

242 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 5:22:04am

re: #239 Obdicut

CCNY is one part of CUNY. The social work program seems to be concentrated at Hunter College rather than at City, but I'm still in early days of figuring out this byzantine noodle. Hunter is also much closer to me, so that'd be nice.

Guessing the New School for Social Research is totally out of reach.

243 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 5:22:31am

re: #240 Decatur Deb

Just stay away from 'Hudson College'. That's where all the axe murderers, terrorists and serial rapists go.

Maybe Obdi wants to be an axe murderer. Ever think of that?
/

244 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 5:23:27am

re: #243 Cannadian Club Akbar

Maybe Obdi wants to be an axe murderer. Ever think of that?
/

I hear "Edge Preparation 201" is a bitch.

245 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 5:23:40am

The Boy Scout scandal pisses me off. Talk about hypocrisy!

246 Obdicut  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 5:26:48am

re: #242 Decatur Deb

Guessing the New School for Social Research is totally out of reach.

No, it's just too policy-based for me. I'm really most interested in doing one-on-one therapy, and the New School focuses more on what it says on the tin: research and policy and broad-based stuff. It's definitely interesting and I'm going to talk to someone there, but I think for my goal it's not actually the best suited.

247 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 5:27:34am

re: #241 Obdicut

There's actually one school in the CUNY system that tanks their ratings. It has something like a 25% 6 year graduation rate. I don't know what they're doing there, but they're doing it wrong.

The CUNY system excluding that school has a bad 4-year graduation rate, but a perfectly fine (comparable to normal state schools) 6-year graduation rate.

I think I'm going to CUNY it, unless some big pile of money pops up out of the blue.

Sometimes a bad graduation rate means they're giving marginal beginning students a shot. (That's one reason our elementary/HS numbers can be made to look bad in historical comparison. No would have given my backwoods FIL a shot at HS. He wound up piloting his own Aztec.)

248 Obdicut  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 5:29:26am

re: #243 Cannadian Club Akbar

Maybe Obdi wants to be an axe murderer. Ever think of that?
/

If you've ever handled an actual or quality reproduction war axe-- like a Dane axe-- it feels totally different from a wood-chopping axe. My advice to any would-be axe-murderers out there is to invest in a quality reproduction, and not just use a wood-chopping axe. There's really no choice to be made between the two-- using the wood-chopping axe to try to cleave people is a great way to cut your own foot off. Use a Dane axe, and you'll be lopping off limbs with a smile.

249 Obdicut  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 5:30:43am

re: #247 Decatur Deb

Sometimes a bad graduation rate means they're giving marginal beginning students a shot. (That's one reason our elementary/HS numbers can be made to look bad in historical comparison. No would have given my backwoods FIL a shot at HS. He wound up piloting his own Aztec.)

Yeah, I think that's a lot of it, but then they don't actually manage to do anything with them. In this particular college, out of the 40+ people that have applied for the CPA exam or license or whatever, none of them have ever gotten it. Success rate of 0%.

I dunno. It'd probably take awhile to figure out what that school's deal is.

250 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 5:30:57am

re: #248 Obdicut

If you've ever handled an actual or quality reproduction war axe-- like a Dane axe-- it feels totally different from a wood-chopping axe. My advice to any would-be axe-murderers out there is to invest in a quality reproduction, and not just use a wood-chopping axe. There's really no choice to be made between the two-- using the wood-chopping axe to try to cleave people is a great way to cut your own foot off. Use a Dane axe, and you'll be lopping off limbs with a smile.

You can't enter foreign junk at the Lizzie Borden Invitational.

251 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 5:33:41am

re: #250 Decatur Deb

You can't enter foreign junk at the Lizzie Borden Invitational.

YOU are so bad.

Such things shouldn't be said
(before 1/2 a pot of coffee is consumed)

:)

252 Obdicut  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 5:33:57am

re: #250 Decatur Deb

You can't enter foreign junk at the Lizzie Borden Invitational.

That was just a hatchet job.

253 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 5:34:37am

re: #252 Obdicut

That was just a hatchet job.

Some things just haft to be said.

254 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 5:36:18am

So, why don't the image upload and LGF image library buttons work when I try to use them from the bookmarket? Or from the "create a page" window?

Is it me?

255 Shropshire_Slasher  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 5:38:31am

Thankyou Ice and Dec. Deb. I can't upding on my work laptop, so I guess I have to thankyou the old-fashioned way.

256 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 5:39:22am

re: #254 ggt

So, why don't the image upload and LGF image library buttons work when I try to use them from the bookmarket? Or from the "create a page" window?

Is it me?

Haven't kept up with the changes--too much like my oversophisticated cell phone. Glad the critical features have been kept.

257 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 5:39:30am

re: #255 Shropshire_Slasher

Thankyou Ice and Dec. Deb. I can't upding on my work laptop, so I guess I have to thankyou the old-fashioned way.

smoke signal?

258 AntonSirius  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 5:40:18am

re: #214 BongCrodny

The FEC and Open Secrets list her only political donation as being to Paul Bryar [D] for Congress in 2009.

259 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 5:40:49am

re: #257 ggt

smoke signal?

His company rejects sissyfied 'positive feedback'.

260 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 5:43:35am

re: #259 Decatur Deb

His company rejects sissyfied 'positive feedback'.

Smoke Signals seem to be sufficiently manly . . .

261 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 5:45:02am

re: #260 ggt

Smoke Signals seem to be sufficiently manly . . .

And you get a carbon copy.

262 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 5:47:33am

re: #261 Decatur Deb

And you get a carbon copy.

only if you put the carbon in correctly when you load the typewriter!

263 Mocking Jay  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 5:48:40am

Caption: And after re-election even the young were using Obamaphones...

264 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 5:49:09am

re: #261 Decatur Deb

And you get a carbon copy.

When I got in trouble in skool and had to write some sentence 50 times I used carbon paper. The teachers never actually bothered to look.

265 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 5:49:13am

Big W--E storm system raking Alabama, heading to GA. Is sattv up?

266 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 5:52:26am

re: #264 Cannadian Club Akbar

When I got in trouble in skool and had to write some sentence 50 times I used carbon paper. The teachers never actually bothered to look.

She didn't notice when you had the carbon backwards and you had a whole page written on the back of one page --with the letters also backwards?

267 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 5:52:47am

re: #264 Cannadian Club Akbar

When I got in trouble in skool and had to write some sentence 50 times I used carbon paper. The teachers never actually bothered to look.

One of our 5th grade catechism questions was:

"Suzy only uses her carbon paper a few times, to get back at her mean boss. Is she breaking the 7th Commandment?"

Innocent times.

268 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 5:53:57am

re: #266 ggt

She didn't notice when you had the carbon backwards and you had a whole page written on the back of one page --with the letters also backwards?

I didn't get in trouble for being stoopid.:)

269 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 5:53:59am

re: #236 ggt

It's morning. The dogs told me.

you?

I was informed of the importance of the hour by the cat. And then the construction equipment started up across the street to reinforce the point that staying in bed and sleeping was not going to be a valid option this morning.

270 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 5:54:22am

Vocabulary Word for the Day:

snark

Carroll was asked repeatedly to explain the snark. In all cases, his answer is he does not know and cannot explain.

271 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 5:55:09am

Dogs are blissfully back asleep on MY bed.

I'm going to kick them to the side and sleep where they warmed it.

have a great morning all!

272 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 5:55:56am

re: #248 Obdicut

If you've ever handled an actual or quality reproduction war axe-- like a Dane axe-- it feels totally different from a wood-chopping axe. My advice to any would-be axe-murderers out there is to invest in a quality reproduction, and not just use a wood-chopping axe. There's really no choice to be made between the two-- using the wood-chopping axe to try to cleave people is a great way to cut your own foot off. Use a Dane axe, and you'll be lopping off limbs with a smile.

This message approved by Erik Bloodaxe.

273 Amory Blaine  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 6:06:47am

Axes don't kill people.

;)

274 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 6:08:13am

re: #273 Amory Blaine

Axes don't kill people.

;)

This message is brought to you by the NAA.

275 Amory Blaine  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 6:08:20am

5 trillion dollar axe man

I Don’t Have The Time

276 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 6:14:40am

Morning all !
One question...
What the hell is car-bon paper?

Just kidding.
:)

277 Mr. Crankypants  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 6:18:24am

Mornin' everybody. Today is my last day of sitting at home. Tomorrow I go back to work at a job I hate for $5 less an hour than I was making the last time. Sometimes contracting sucks.

278 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 6:19:14am

re: #276 Reverend Mother Ramallo

Morning all !
One question...
What the hell is car-bon paper?

Just kidding.
:)

A car-bon-bon is when you take a VW Beetle and cover it in chocolate as an anniversary gift.

:)

279 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 6:20:43am

Why don't cannibals eat clowns?
They taste funny.

280 Mr. Crankypants  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 6:21:32am

re: #279 Cannadian Club Akbar

Why don't cannibals eat clowns?
They taste funny.

Two cannibals were having a fight.
"And another thing! I hate your family!"
"Well than try some of yours!"

281 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 6:23:46am

re: #270 ggt

Vocabulary Word for the Day:

snark

Above all, courage is required during a snark hunt. The most common method is to seek it with thimbles, care, forks, and hope.

Sounds like some sort of limp-wristed Democrat Party thing. And since you can offer it a railway share it's obviously some weak analogy to proper business supporting Republicans.
///

282 Mr. Crankypants  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 6:23:57am

A guy goes into the cannibal butcher shop. There's a sign on the wall:
Doctor Brains $20 a pound
Engineer Brains $25 a pound
Politician Brains $75 a pound

The guy says "How come politician brains are so expensive?"
"You have any idea how many politicians it takes to get a pound of brains?

283 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 6:25:06am

re: #282 Mr. Crankypants

A guy goes into the cannibal butcher shop. There's a sign on the wall:
Doctor Brains $20 a pound
Engineer Brains $25 a pound
Politician Brains $75 a pound

The guy says "How come politician brains are so expensive?"
"You have any idea how many politicians it takes to get a pound of brains?

The conundrum with politicians is how they have no guts yet are still full of shit. ;)

284 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 6:27:07am

re: #276 Reverend Mother Ramallo

Morning all !
One question...
What the hell is car-bon paper?

Just kidding.
:)

Dial my number and I'll give you the skinny.

285 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 6:27:17am

So I applied for a job last night online. They want you to put in your phone # with dashes----. The freakin' thing wouldn't let me put in the dashes and wouldn't forward me to the next page. Morons.

286 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 6:29:10am

re: #285 Cannadian Club Akbar

So I applied for a job last night online. They want you to put in your phone # with dashes----. The freakin' thing wouldn't let me put in the dashes and wouldn't forward me to the next page. Morons.

Are they hiring you to do computer interface work?

287 Obdicut  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 6:29:15am

re: #285 Cannadian Club Akbar

So I applied for a job last night online. They want you to put in your phone # with dashes----. The freakin' thing wouldn't let me put in the dashes and wouldn't forward me to the next page. Morons.

My favorite are the ads that say they want perfectionists to join their god-like company and the ad is missing vital information, has typos, and uses terrible grammar.

288 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 6:30:07am

re: #287 Obdicut

My favorite are the ads that say they want perfectionists to join their god-like company and the ad is missing vital information, has typos, and uses terrible grammar.

But they have a top-flight Uality program.
(h/t to old Dilbert cartoon about keyboards.)

289 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 6:31:44am

re: #284 Decatur Deb

Dial my number and I'll give you the skinny.

Heehee...
Should I tell the operator to connect me to Decatur 147?

290 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 6:32:26am

re: #287 Obdicut

My favorite are the ads that say they want perfectionists to join their god-like company and the ad is missing vital information, has typos, and uses terrible grammar.

If I see a job posting with typos I don't even bother. Or words spelled wrong. (their instead of there type shit) We're doomed.
/

291 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 6:34:07am

I also hate it when they have you upload your resume then want you to fill in "previous employment". Dude, it took me 3 seconds to upload my resume. I don't have time for this shit. WTF?

292 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 6:36:11am

re: #290 Cannadian Club Akbar

Oops. Fits in under grammar Obdi mentioned.

293 Amory Blaine  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 6:37:50am

Preparing the public for impeachment?

Huckabee Suggests Obama Should Be Impeached Over Libya Incident

Fox News host and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee (R) compared the administration’s handling of the consulate attack in Libya to Watergate, during an appearance on the network Friday morning, and hinted that the president should be impeached for not immediately attributing the violence to terrorism.

“We have been flat-out lied to,” Huckabee told Fox’s Bill Hemmer. “They know they lied. As if airplanes crashing into the World Trade Center said those were just accidents. Anybody with two eyes and an IQ above plant life knows what happened in Libya was not a spontaneous reaction to a 13 minute video on YouTube”

294 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 6:39:31am

re: #293 Amory Blaine

Preparing the public for impeachment?

Huckabee Suggests Obama Should Be Impeached Over Libya Incident

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Bollocks !
They're gonna have to do better than that.

295 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 6:41:06am

So my friend doesn't have to work today because he's currently doing some farming stuff with the guy he works for and we got a pretty good rain last night. So now he wants to clean the house. I had to tell him to fuck off. Was that wrong?
/

296 The Left  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 6:47:09am

re: #295 Cannadian Club Akbar

So my friend doesn't have to work today because he's currently doing some farming stuff with the guy he works for and we got a pretty good rain last night. So now he wants to clean the house. I had to tell him to fuck off. Was that wrong?
/

Was your pinky extended when you told him to fuck off? Or was it a different finger?

297 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 6:48:28am

Holy Freakin' Crap!!!
[Link: www.al.com...]

298 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 6:50:14am

re: #296 The Left

Was your pinky extended when you told him to fuck off? Or was it a different finger?

I wanted to extend my pinky but my monocle is in the shop. Can't have one without the other.

299 kirkspencer  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 6:54:48am

re: #290 Cannadian Club Akbar

If I see a job posting with typos I don't even bother. Or words spelled wrong. (their instead of there type shit) We're doomed.
/

Or... I'm on a list responder for Jacobs Engineering, and they've a problem they won't fix (despite several messages and even a couple of phone calls). Basically, they send out job opportunity notices with bad links.

Some *nix "guru" got into it and filled it with \n (command newline) characters. So you get messages like this (copypaste from email, substituting [link] for https and [dot] for link address to nullify html commands):

Hello! There are new jobs that you may be interested in. Visit the URL for further details.\n\n\n[link]irecruitment[dot]jacobs[dot]com/OA_HTML/OA.jsp?OAFunc=IRC_VIS_VAC_DISPLAY&p_svid=272597&p_spid=936553nnnIRC272638\n[link]irecruitment[dot]jacobs[dot]com/OA_HTML/OA.jsp?OAFunc=IRC_VIS_VAC_DISPLAY&p_svid=272638&p_spid=936594\n\n\nTo stop receiving email notifications on matching jobs, copy and paste this URL in a new browser window \n[link]irecruitment[dot]jacobs[dot]com/OA_HTML/RF.jsp?function_id=37199&resp_id=-1&resp_appl_id=-1&security_group_id=0&lang_code=US&params=WRKFFpJDE.AJRpa342Pkf1riTwIhTF-CBWERA8r.LXI

300 Lidane  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 6:55:05am
301 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 6:59:28am

re: #300 Lidane

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Delusional.

302 Mich-again  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 7:03:50am

re: #297 Cannadian Club Akbar

Holy Freakin' Crap!!!
[Link: www.al.com...]

They should put an asterisk next to any hunting records from private hunting clubs. I'll bet they grew that alligator in a cage until he was a record breaker and then let him out and gave him to 3 before they started shooting. Just like with the record breaking 1200+ pound Hogzilla that some rednecks shot a few years ago down south. Raised on a farm and then shot like it was actually hunted in the wild.

303 Lidane  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 7:05:52am
304 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 7:06:03am

re: #302 Mich-again

I fear gators. I have actually had many bad dreams about them.

305 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 7:06:21am

re: #302 Mich-again

They should put an asterisk next to any hunting records from private hunting clubs. I'll bet they grew that alligator in a cage until he was a record breaker and then let him out and gave him to 3 before they started shooting. Just like with the record breaking 1200+ pound Hogzilla that some rednecks shot a few years ago down south. Raised on a farm and then shot like it was actually hunted in the wild.

You could probably test meat from that gator and find out. If they were cage/pen raising it the odds are it was getting fed chicken. And the chicken would be corn fed. And that can be traced since corn proteins are different than whatever a wild gator would be eating.

306 kirkspencer  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 7:08:06am

re: #302 Mich-again

Not shot, caught on rods and reels. Not going to dispute the farm speculation or the 'release to be caught' speculation, but I'll submit it's a wee bit harder than just shooting the thing.

307 Mich-again  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 7:09:12am

I picked up my absentee ballot today at the Township Office, I'll be out of the country on election day. In Michigan there are about 15 proposals all written in mumbo jumbo legalspeak so its not clear what the hell you are voting for or against until you read it 3 or 4 times.

Hopefully voters who go to the polls will do their research beforehand so they know how they want to vote on all of the proposals. If not, the lines will be very long and extremely slow.

308 Mich-again  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 7:10:20am

re: #306 kirkspencer

Not shot, caught on rods and reels. Not going to dispute the farm speculation or the 'release to be caught' speculation, but I'll submit it's a wee bit harder than just shooting the thing.

True.

309 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 7:11:00am

re: #307 Mich-again

I picked up my absentee ballot today at the Township Office, I'll be out of the country on election day. In Michigan there are about 15 proposals all written in mumbo jumbo legalspeak so its not clear what the hell you are voting for or against until you read it 3 or 4 times.

Hopefully voters who go to the polls will do their research beforehand so they know how they want to vote on all of the proposals. If not, the lines will be very long and extremely slow.

Florida ballots actually break that kind of stuff down for people like me. They also print a copy of the ballots in the paper about a week ahead of time.

310 Lidane  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 7:11:26am

re: #304 Cannadian Club Akbar

I fear gators. I have actually had many bad dreams about them.

I'm not a fan of snapping turtles. I've had nightmares about them.

311 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 7:12:50am

re: #310 Lidane

I'm not a fan of snapping turtles. I've had nightmares about them.

Well, I fear gators because I grew up in Florida and they're around. Snapping turtles? You're just weird.
///

312 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 7:17:07am

re: #309 Cannadian Club Akbar

Florida ballots actually break that kind of stuff down for people like me. They also print a copy of the ballots in the paper about a week ahead of time.

The ballot in Okaloosa is 4 pages long. That's going to screw up the voting process unless people sluff it off. Our canvassers were pushing early voting and vote-by-mail to give people a decent chance to actually read the thing.

313 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 7:17:53am

re: #304 Cannadian Club Akbar

I fear gators. I have actually had many bad dreams about them.

Then there is that creepy one-armed pirate guy going around about gators and yelling about how the kids should stay off his lawn, or ship, or something like that. And that they fly. Wonder what hooch he has been drinking.
/ ;)

314 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 7:18:30am

re: #312 Decatur Deb

The ballot in Okaloosa is 4 pages long. That's going to screw up the voting process unless people sluff it off. Our canvassers were pushing early voting and vote-by-mail to give people a decent chance to actually read the thing.

The ones in Tampa are 6 pages with all the local crap involved.

315 Lidane  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 7:19:18am

re: #311 Cannadian Club Akbar

Well, I fear gators because I grew up in Florida and they're around. Snapping turtles? You're just weird.
///

Heh. I don't deny the weirdness. It's part of my charm. ;)

I can understand fearing gators. I wouldn't get near them if you paid me. I don't know where the snapping turtle thing started. I think it's because we're talking about something that's low to the ground and can bite of limbs if it's threatened.

316 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 7:20:16am

re: #314 Cannadian Club Akbar

The ones in Tampa are 6 pages with all the local crap involved.

Yup. That means a lot of significant stuff will be voted that is not really understood, and that polling place lines will discourage voting.

317 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 7:20:27am

re: #313 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Then there is that creepy one-armed pirate guy going around about gators and yelling about how the kids should stay off his lawn, or ship, or something like that. And that they fly. Wonder what hooch he has been drinking.
/ ;)

I actually had a dream where I was in a canoe being chased by gators with bald heads. I tried to get away from them by flying but they could fly, too. Then I woke up.

318 Mich-again  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 7:21:11am

re: #314 Cannadian Club Akbar

The ones in Tampa are 6 pages with all the local crap involved.

wow.. that is crazy.

319 kirkspencer  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 7:21:38am

re: #317 Cannadian Club Akbar

I actually had a dream where I was in a canoe being chased by gators with bald heads. I tried to get away from them by flying but they could fly, too. Then I woke up.

Those are called "dragons".

oh, and they're just waiting till you're asleep again. Them and the clowns. //

320 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 7:21:43am

re: #318 Mich-again

wow.. that is crazy.

No, that's a feature, not a bug.

321 Lidane  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 7:21:44am

Oh geez. Who wants to bet this will be one of their pathetic attempts at impeachment if the polls hold and President Obama wins a second term?

322 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 7:22:00am

re: #317 Cannadian Club Akbar

I actually had a dream where I was in a canoe being chased by gators with bald heads. I tried to get away from them by flying but they could fly, too. Then I woke up.

A dream. Or Dwarf Fortress.*

* - Yes, you can make crocodiles "fly" there. Or giant desert scorpions.

323 Killgore Trout  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 7:22:25am

Iranian cameraman who accompanied Ahmadinejad to UN now seeks asylum in U.S.

A lawyer for a cameraman who was accompanying Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to the U.S. for the United Nations General Assembly in New York says his client has defected.

Paul O'Dwyer, a New York City-based lawyer who is representing Hassan Gol Khanban, confirmed Sunday that his client is seeking asylum in the U.S. He provided no other details.

324 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 7:22:46am

I don't think I'm gonna share anymore.
///

325 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 7:23:23am

re: #321 Lidane

Oh geez. Who wants to bet this will be one of their pathetic attempts at impeachment if the polls hold and President Obama wins a second term?

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TPGOP:

"White House breakfast does not include hot sauce--that's worse than Watergate."

326 Lidane  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 7:24:03am
327 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 7:24:38am

re: #319 kirkspencer

I don't like clowns but I really hate mimes. Ever seen the movie "Shakes the Clown"?

328 The Ghost of a Flea  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 7:24:50am

re: #321 Lidane

Oh geez. Who wants to bet this will be one of their pathetic attempts at impeachment if the polls hold and President Obama wins a second term?

Admittedly, Nixon was never so flagrantly Black While Presidenting.

329 Interesting Times  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 7:26:23am

re: #326 Lidane

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Propaganda network that appeals to old and dying demographic sez whut?

330 Mr. Crankypants  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 7:27:02am

I'm not sure that the GOP wants to try to re run the impeachment thing, as it would make the obstructionism of the last 4 years even more obvious.

331 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 7:28:19am

re: #329 Interesting Times

Propaganda network that appeals to old and dying demographic sez whut?

"Don't be a dummy, be a smartie. Come and join the (*****) party."

Oh wait, that's much too witty for the FOX-supported party. Let's go with racist dog whistles, unlogic, and crying like a brat to the degree it is insulting to brats.

332 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 7:28:58am

re: #330 Mr. Crankypants

I'm not sure that the GOP wants to try to re run the impeachment thing, as it would make the obstructionism of the last 4 years even more obvious.

Not even the TPGOP could be that stupid.

333 Mich-again  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 7:29:19am

re: #326 Lidane

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Yeah, that's a great way to attract young voters. Insult them all.

You know maybe there is a chance some of those young voters do not support the GOP because of the willfull ignorance and greed on display by the GOP leaders when they talk about the issues.

334 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 7:31:05am

re: #330 Mr. Crankypants

I'm not sure that the GOP wants to try to re run the impeachment thing, as it would make the obstructionism of the last 4 years even more obvious.

The wiser heads perhaps. But the populists, and fight-to-the-last-ditch TP nuts are going to be agitating for it. Probably by the evening of Nov 6.

It will be interesting to see what the big money GOP supporters decide to do in the next few years since that is going to be one of the main drivers.

335 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 7:32:14am

re: #333 Mich-again

Yeah, that's a great way to attract young voters. Insult them all.

You know maybe there is a chance some of those young voters do not support the GOP because of the willfull ignorance and greed on display by the GOP leaders when they talk about the issues.

But all the young voters care about is getting free stuff and drug legalization (LUAP NOR!)

336 Mr. Crankypants  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 7:33:18am

re: #334 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

The wiser heads perhaps. But the populists, and fight-to-the-last-ditch TP nuts are going to be agitating for it. Probably by the evening of Nov 6.

It will be interesting to see what the big money GOP supporters decide to do in the next few years since that is going to be one of the main drivers.

Nothing drives certainty among the job creators like the potential of presidential impeachment.
//

337 Mr. Crankypants  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 7:34:54am

Romney keeps pushing the "Obama is incompetent" line, but quite frankly he's pushing string.

338 Mich-again  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 7:37:10am

re: #337 Mr. Crankypants

Romney keeps pushing the "Obama is incompetent" line, but quite frankly he's pushing string.

Romney's campaign is $11 million in debt and he is losing badly in the polls.

339 danarchy  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 7:39:09am

re: #297 Cannadian Club Akbar

Holy Freakin' Crap!!!
[Link: www.al.com...]

Noticed this link at the bottom of that article, this one has a foot in length and over 100lbs on that little one in the previous article ;)

Big gator

340 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 7:39:28am

re: #338 Mich-again

Romney's campaign is $11 million in debt and he is losing badly in the polls.

But October is here, and Reagan caught Carter...
:p

341 Mattand  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 7:40:07am

re: #338 Mich-again

Romney's campaign is $11 million in debt and he is losing badly in the polls.

How the hell can his campaign be $11 million in debt? He keeps that kind of cash wadded up in his dresser.

I forget: are there specific laws that prevent Romney from funding his campaign out-of-pocket, Charles Foster Kane-style?

342 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 7:40:10am

Greek neo-Nazi party sets up New York office
[Link: www.salon.com...]
WTF?

343 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 7:44:43am

Caption:

"Hello, Joe's Smoke Shop? Do you have Prince Albert in a can?"

344 Kronocide  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 7:45:35am

Obama Hate Speech Spreads on Facebook
by Leslie Meredith, Senior Writer, TechNewsDaily
19 July 2012 12:09 PM ET

Racism is alive and well on Facebook, despite the social network's policy banning hate speech.

A new study from Baylor University shows how anti-Obama and just plain racist groups use Facebook to spread their messages. And we're not talking about politics, but Ku Klux Klan-style hate speech using old stereotypes updated with do-rags and golden grills.

"Some people have declared the present a "post-racial" era in that U.S. citizens elected a black president, maintaining that policies to address racism are no longer necessary," Mia Moody, Ph.D., who led the Baylor study, said in a statement. "But depictions of minorities in new media show otherwise."

345 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 7:45:42am

re: #343 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

Caption:

"Hello, Joe's Smoke Shop? Do you have Prince Albert in a can?"

"Hello, Joe's Bowling alley? Do you have 16 pound balls?"

346 Killgore Trout  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 7:47:08am

re: #342 Cannadian Club Akbar

Greek neo-Nazi party sets up New York office
[Link: www.salon.com...]
WTF?

They are making big gains back home
Right-Wing Extremists’ Popularity Rising Rapidly in Greece

347 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 7:48:56am

re: #342 Cannadian Club Akbar

Greek neo-Nazi party sets up New York office
[Link: www.salon.com...]
WTF?

Good--there aren't enough violent assholes in NYC.

BBL

348 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 7:49:37am

re: #346 Killgore Trout

They are making big gains back home
Right-Wing Extremists’ Popularity Rising Rapidly in Greece

They break shit and then go to church to pray to the Madonna? I hate Greek Nazis.

349 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 7:51:33am

re: #348 Cannadian Club Akbar

They break shit and then go to church to pray to the Madonna? I hate Greek Nazis.

And for the record: I came close to marrying a Greek girl once so I don't hate Greek people. Just her and the Nazis.:)

350 Mich-again  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 7:53:19am

re: #344 Kronocide

Facebook has become the anti-social network with all the political crap people post.

351 Killgore Trout  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 7:55:32am

Obama’s claim that the Bush tax cuts led to the economic crisis

We nearly made this Four Pinocchios but ultimately decided that citing deregulation in conjunction with tax cuts kept this line out of the “whopper” category. Still, in his effort to portray Romney as an echo of Bush, the president really stretches the limits here.

Three Pinocchios

Outrageous!

352 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 7:55:41am

re: #350 Mich-again

Facebook has become the anti-social network with all the political crap people post.

I can't even read a sports story without people dragging politics into it. It's fucking annoying. I blame the 24/7 networks.

353 Kronocide  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 7:56:10am

re: #350 Mich-again

Facebook has become the anti-social network with all the political crap people post.

So I'm posting that on my Facebook page... LOL

354 The Left  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 8:02:18am

willard has an oped in the WSJ about foreign policy:

[Link: online.wsj.com...]

Chock full of bullshit. Someone's had their morning fiber.

355 Mich-again  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 8:03:24am

re: #351 Killgore Trout

Obama’s claim that the Bush tax cuts led to the economic crisis

Outrageous!

I don't think anyone can claim Romney is an echo of Bush. Who can say with any certainty what it is that Romney stands for or against?

356 Killgore Trout  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 8:03:39am

Chavez dirty tricks? Venezuela prints a confusing ballot

Ballots are already printed for Sunday's election in Venezuela, but the opposition candidate's photo is shown in at least four places where, if marked, the vote will not be counted for his party.

It will be interesting to see if Chavez ever gives up power peacefully.

357 Gus  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 8:03:46am

re: #351 Killgore Trout

Obama’s claim that the Bush tax cuts led to the economic crisis

Outrageous!

Game changer right there. Uh huh.

I like the way he blows off deregulation and genuflects all over the place trying to say "the Democrats done it too."

358 Interesting Times  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 8:05:17am

re: #350 Mich-again

Facebook has become the anti-social network with all the political crap people post.

Luckily my news feed only gets the good stuff, like this :)

359 Killgore Trout  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 8:06:14am

re: #355 Mich-again

I don't think anyone can claim Romney is an echo of Bush. Who can say with any certainty what it is that Romney stands for or against?

It's always hard to tell with candidates. I think his record as governor is probably the most reliable indicator. Campaign promises and one paragraph position statements aren't much to go by.

360 Gus  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 8:06:36am

re: #351 Killgore Trout

Obama’s claim that the Bush tax cuts led to the economic crisis

Outrageous!

It's also a misleading title because it doesn't reference the deregulation. It could also be argued that the Bush tax cuts have extended the recession. As was that fake war in Iraq he pushed for to revenge his father's failure as every boy king would.

361 The Left  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 8:06:49am

re: #358 Interesting Times

Luckily my news feed only gets the good stuff, like this :)

That photo is great!

362 Mich-again  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 8:11:26am

re: #359 Killgore Trout

It's always hard to tell with candidates. I think his record as governor is probably the most reliable indicator. Campaign promises and one paragraph position statements aren't much to go by.

Do you think he will ever stand up to the Tea Party extremists and just say No to them about anything at all? He hasn't yet and that is why he has ceded the middle ground. In Massachusetts he was in the minority party and had to compromise and make deals with the other side. In today's GOP, there is no room for that and he'd be demonized for compromising anything with the Dems, so I don't know if how he governed in MA means very much here.

363 Kronocide  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 8:11:27am

re: #354 The Left

willard has an oped in the WSJ about foreign policy:

[Link: online.wsj.com...]

Chock full of bullshit. Someone's had their morning fiber.

Restore the three sinews of American influence: our economic strength, our military strength and the strength of our values.

Sinew Sinew Sinew!

364 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 8:12:06am

re: #360 Gus

It's also a misleading title because it doesn't reference the deregulation. It could also be argued that the Bush tax cuts have extended the recession. As was that fake war in Iraq he pushed for to revenge his father's failure as every boy king would.

But he offered a quick victorious war!

Too bad the current day doesn't allow you to simply loot a foreign land and just walk away from it like the good old days.
// :p

365 Gus  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 8:12:15am

re: #354 The Left

willard has an oped in the WSJ about foreign policy:

[Link: online.wsj.com...]

Chock full of bullshit. Someone's had their morning fiber.

366 Gus  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 8:13:05am

re: #364 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

But he offered a quick victorious war!

Too bad the current day doesn't allow you to simply loot a foreign land and just walk away from it like the good old days.
// :p

Iraq attacks: September 'deadliest month for two years'

Some 365 people were killed in Iraq during September, making it the country's deadliest month for more than two years, says the government.

367 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 8:13:34am

re: #354 The Left

willard has an oped in the WSJ about foreign policy:

[Link: online.wsj.com...]

Chock full of bullshit. Someone's had their morning fiber.

I'm sure it gives KT plenty of wood...

368 Someone Please Beam Me Up!  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 8:13:44am

re: #354 The Left

willard has an oped in the WSJ about foreign policy:

[Link: online.wsj.com...]

Chock full of bullshit. Someone's had their morning fiber.

Fiber? Chock full of nothing, I'd say.

369 The Left  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 8:15:00am

re: #368 Someone Please Beam Me Up!

Fiber? Chock full of nothing, I'd say.

It's pretty amazing that he's written a column about foreign policy and the Middle East without ever using the words Afghanistan or Iraq.

370 Gus  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 8:16:37am

re: #369 The Left

It's pretty amazing that he's written a column about foreign policy and the Middle East without ever using the words Afghanistan or Iraq.

Oh yeah but he mentions Israel! He cares!

//

371 Gus  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 8:16:58am

What a douche.

Disturbing developments are sweeping across the greater Middle East. In Syria, tens of thousands of innocent people have been slaughtered. In Egypt, the Muslim Brotherhood has come to power, and the country's peace treaty with Israel hangs in the balance. In Libya, our ambassador was murdered in a terrorist attack. U.S. embassies throughout the region have been stormed in violent protests. And in Iran, the ayatollahs continue to move full tilt toward nuclear-weapons capability, all the while promising to annihilate Israel.

These developments are not, as President Obama says, mere "bumps in the road." They are major issues that put our security at risk.

372 The Left  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 8:17:24am

re: #370 Gus

Oh yeah but he mentions Israel! He cares!

//

Apparently, he thinks we should outsource all our foreign policy to Bibi.

373 Kronocide  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 8:18:25am

re: #370 Gus

Oh yeah but he mentions Israel! He cares!

//

Vote for me because I'm the most ISRAELFUCKYEAH!

374 The Left  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 8:18:59am

re: #373 Kronocide

Vote for me because I'm the most ISRAELFUCKYEAH!

Israel, the 51st state! //

375 Gus  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 8:19:14am

re: #374 The Left

Israel, the 51st state! //

Outrage!

376 The Left  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 8:20:13am

re: #375 Gus

Outrage!

More antisemitism from The Left!! OUTRAGE!

377 Gus  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 8:20:39am

re: #376 The Left

More antisemitism from The Left!! OUTRAGE!

This article and comment from Daily Kos proves it!

378 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 8:20:46am

re: #374 The Left

Israel, the 51st state! //

Sorry, Puerto Rico!
///

379 Gus  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 8:22:00am

Mitt Romney
Karma: -12,945

Web site URL:
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380 Killgore Trout  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 8:22:55am

re: #362 Mich-again

Do you think he will ever stand up to the Tea Party extremists and just say No to them about anything at all? He hasn't yet and that is why he has ceded the middle ground. In Massachusetts he was in the minority party and had to compromise and make deals with the other side. In today's GOP, there is no room for that and he'd be demonized for compromising anything with the Dems, so I don't know if how he governed in MA means very much here.

It's hard to tell. I think he'd be fine with a Dem controlled congress, more open to comprimise once in office. But with Republicans in control of both houses there's no telling what kind of nonsense he'd sign into law. I'm much more worried about congressional Republicans that I am concerned with Mitt.

381 The Left  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 8:23:16am

re: #379 Gus

Mitt Romney
Karma: -12,945

Web site URL:
[Link: www.mittromney.com...]

(Logged in)
Registered since: Jan 1, 2003 at 1:17 pm
No. of comments posted: 666
No. of Pages posted: 1

Romney's karma is skewed by oversampling Democratic dingers! Outrage!

382 Gus  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 8:24:23am

re: #381 The Left

Romney's karma is skewed by oversampling Democratic dingers! Outrage!

The ankle biters and poodle patrol are harshing mah neocon buzz!

He said neocon!

[Faints]

383 Mr. Crankypants  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 8:28:45am

re: #381 The Left

Romney's karma is skewed by oversampling Democratic dingers! Outrage!

Wonder if you could get [Link: www.mittronmey.com...] and post a bunch of really batshit insane policy statements.

Oh wait, Gary Johnson already did it.

384 Mr. Crankypants  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 8:29:10am

re: #382 Gus

The ankle biters and poodle patrol are hashing mah neocon buzz!

He said neocon!

[Faints]

You said hash...heh heh heh

385 Gus  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 8:30:15am

re: #384 Mr. Crankypants

You said hash...heh heh heh

I fixted it.

386 Gus  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 8:31:21am

Mitt Romney
This User Is Blocked

387 The Left  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 8:35:10am

re: #386 Gus

Mitt Romney
This User Is Blocked

Mitt Romney is having a timeout!

388 b_sharp  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 8:35:26am

re: #371 Gus

Disturbing developments are sweeping across the greater Middle East. In Syria, tens of thousands of innocent people have been slaughtered. In Egypt, the Muslim Brotherhood has come to power, and the country's peace treaty with Israel hangs in the balance. In Libya, our ambassador was murdered in a terrorist attack. U.S. embassies throughout the region have been stormed in violent protests. And in Iran, the ayatollahs continue to move full tilt toward nuclear-weapons capability, all the while promising to annihilate Israel.

These developments are not, as President Obama says, mere "bumps in the road." They are major issues that put our security at risk.

What a douche.

Let's see - In Syria we can wipe out Assad like we did Gh'daffy, then jail and interrogate the Muslim Brotherhood and their al-Qaeda buddies. In Egypt we can invade like we did in Iraq, then jail and interrogate the Muslim Brotherhood and their al-Qaeda buddies. In Lybia we can wipe out Gh'daffy like we did Assad (who's in power there again?), then jail and interrogate the Muslim Brotherhood and their al-Qaeda buddies. In Iran we can wipe out the ayatollahs like we did Gh'daffy and Assad, then jail and interrogate the Muslim Brotherhood and their al-Qaeda buddies.

I bet I can do that without breaking a nail.

389 lawhawk  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 8:36:07am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. So, Mitt's busy showing just how ignorant he is of the Middle East.


There's always a crisis or nuclear development, or Israel is threatened or imperiled. There's always been regimes under threat from revolt. There have always been regimes that seek to destabilize their rivals and foes.

Just a quick history lesson:

1948 - Israel's independence; Jordan invades and captures West Bank as part of war; Egypt takes Gaza.

1956 - France, Britain, Israel fight war against Egypt; war called by US/USSR and situation reverts to ceasefire lines from 1948.

1967 Six Day War - Israel captures West Bank, Sinai, Golan, Jerusalem - fighter planes buzz Cairo and Damascus.

1970 War of Attrition between Israel and Egypt

1973 Yom Kippur War - after nearly losing the Golan to Syria and suffering heavy tank and plane losses at outset, Israel regains tactical and strategic advantages - nearly eliminating Egyptian military in Sinai and once again buzz Damascus with planes.

1975 - 1990 Lebanese civil war

1978 Camp David Accords (running through 1981 with Sinai handover)

1979 Iranian revolution

1980 Iran hostage situation drags on

1980 - 1988 Iran-Iraq war - over borders of the Shaat al Arab (oil); hundreds of thousands killed on both sides

1981 Osirak raid by Israel against Iraqi nuclear plant; Egypt's Sadat assassinated; Mubarak assumes power

1982 Israel invades southern Lebanon because of PLO attacks, rise of Hizbullah and Marine barracks bombing in Beirut; Hama leveled by Hafez Assad (Hama rules)

1983- 2005 Sudanese civil war (includes Darfur genocide)

1986 - 1989 Anfal campaign in Kurdish Iraq - upwards of 1 million killed; more displaced

1990 Iraq invades Kuwait - First Gulf War ensues (sanctions last through 2003 invasion in 2d Gulf War).

That's just a sampling of major and calamitous events from the past century. Periods of calm are few and far between. Much more common is unrest, violence, and outright war. The selected items don't include terror attacks like the African embassy bombings; USS Cole attack; the ongoing terror attacks and safe havens in Somalia and Yemen; and actions such as Operation Cast Lead; the Hizbullah War; the Palestinian civil war (following the Gaza disengagement); the intifadas; etc.

390 Gus  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 8:37:50am

re: #388 reflections of a raging redneck

I bet I can do that without breaking a nail.

Mitt Romney. A return to torture and black budget wars.

391 Gus  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 8:39:00am

re: #389 lawhawk

Romney's piece would fit in at Breitbart. Although it's probably a long read for those dopes.

392 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 8:39:20am

re: #389 lawhawk

Good list. And if you go a little west along the Med it's not like Libya, Algeria, and Tunisia have been totally quiet, or Yemen if you want to deal with the southern part of the Arabian Peninsula. (Which is a short hop over to those always quiet spots like Ethiopia and Somalia.)

394 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 8:41:00am

re: #390 Gus

I bet I can do that without breaking a nail.

Mitt Romney. A return to torture and black budget wars.

I would have been more impressed if Romney had made a case for rounding up financial expertise and trying something like buying out one of these trouble spot countries rather than just playing up the old (and short-sighted) imperial police man model.

395 Gus  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 8:41:39am

Less civilians have died during the Arab Spring than those that died in the ginned up Iraq War.

396 Lidane  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 8:44:22am

re: #393 Kronocide

Electoral College Update: Bad news for Romney on eve of debates

Related:

397 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 8:47:41am

re: #396 Lidane

Related:

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furiously kissing babies and tossing them backwards over his shoulder
Heh.

398 Mr. Crankypants  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 8:49:28am

re: #397 Cannadian Club Akbar

furiously kissing babies and tossing them backwards over his shoulder
Heh.

He doesn't kiss them, he outsourced that to China.

399 b_sharp  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 8:50:37am

re: #389 lawhawk

You need to page this.

400 Lidane  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 8:51:01am
401 Gus  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 8:52:15am

re: #389 lawhawk

Achille Lauro

402 b_sharp  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 8:52:36am

re: #400 Lidane

[Embedded content]

Is 'spiritual giants' equivalent to 'empty talking heads'?

403 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 8:52:57am

re: #389 lawhawk

Pan Am 103

404 Gus  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 8:53:14am

March 16, 1984 CIA Station Chief William Buckley kidnapped

405 Gus  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 8:53:30am

Dec. 3, 1984 Hijacking of Kuwait Airways Flight 221

406 jaunte  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 8:53:37am

Benghazi-Gate.

Can we please get these people a new suffix?

407 Gus  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 8:53:37am

June 14, 1985 Hijacking of TWA Flight 847

408 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 8:54:44am

re: #407 Gus

June 14, 1985 Hijacking of TWA Flight 847

Is that the one where the terrorist killed the Navy SeAL?

409 Gus  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 8:55:41am

re: #408 Cannadian Club Akbar

Is that the one where the terrorist killed the Navy SeAL?

Link here...

TWA Flight 847 was hijacked en route from Athens to Rome and forced to land in Beirut, Lebanon, where the hijackers held the plane for 17 days. They demanded the release of the Kuwait 17 as well as the release of 700 fellow Shiite Muslim prisoners held in Israeli prisons and in prisons in southern Lebanon run by the Israeli-backed South Lebanon Army. When these demands weren't met, hostage Robert Dean Stethem, a U.S. Navy diver, was shot and his body dumped on the airport tarmac. U.S. sources implicated Hezbollah.

In what was widely perceived as an implicit, never explicit, quid pro quo, the hostages started being released by the hijackers, followed some days after by Israel starting to free some of its hundreds of Shiite prisoners. At the time, U.S. officials denied there was a deal and said Israel had already committed to releasing the prisoners.

Imad Mughniyah, a senior officer with Hezbollah, was secretly indicted for the TWA hijacking in 1987, along with three others. One of those indicted, Mohammed Ali Hamadei, was arrested in Frankfurt, Germany. In 1989 he was convicted in a German court and sentenced to life in prison. [Editor's Note: Imad Mugniyah remained at large and on the FBI's Most Wanted List for 19 years, until he was killed in a car bombing in Damascus, Syria on Feb. 12, 2008.]

410 Gus  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 8:56:50am

How come they didn't go before a military tribunal?

Why didn't Reagan respond militarily to that hijacking?!?!?!

IOKIYAR

411 Killgore Trout  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 8:57:32am

re: #395 Gus

Less civilians have died during the Arab Spring than those that died in the ginned up Iraq War.

For now but the Arab spring is just beginning. Only the easy dominoes have fallen so far. Some dictators are going to hold on longer than others. Who knows how long Syria is going to drag on for? We also don't know about the sectarian violence and power grabs that may occur once there's a power vacuum. We still have to see Syria, Jordan, Yemen and Iran become free. let's also not forget our allies in the region; AUE, Bahrain, Saudi, etc. There's a long ways to go and some of this is going to be messy.

412 Gus  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 8:58:26am

re: #411 Killgore Trout

For now but the Arab spring is just beginning. Only the easy dominoes have fallen so far. Some dictators are going to hold on longer than others. Who knows how long Syria is going to drag on for? We also don't know about the sectarian violence and power grabs that may occur once there's a power vacuum. We still have to see Syria, Jordan, Yemen and Iran become free. let's also not forget our allies in the region; AUE, Bahrain, Saudi, etc. There's a long ways to go and some of this is going to be messy.

Yeah. The Middle East was never messy now was it.

413 b_sharp  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 8:59:52am

Why don't the Repubs just admit to themselves that the Middle East is an extremely complex problem that requires a complex solution with input from all parties and no simple military intervention short of a nuclear holocaust will work.

414 William of Orange  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:01:11am

Caption:

"And right there and then a 7-year Barack knew what he wanted to do later in life."

415 bratwurst  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:01:34am
416 b_sharp  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:02:15am

re: #411 Killgore Trout

For now but the Arab spring is just beginning. Only the easy dominoes have fallen so far. Some dictators are going to hold on longer than others. Who knows how long Syria is going to drag on for? We also don't know about the sectarian violence and power grabs that may occur once there's a power vacuum. We still have to see Syria, Jordan, Yemen and Iran become free. let's also not forget our allies in the region; AUE, Bahrain, Saudi, etc. There's a long ways to go and some of this is going to be messy.

Jordan is on the way already through peaceful means. They have an election coming up next year I believe.

417 Gus  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:03:35am

re: #414 William of Orange

Caption:

"And right there and then a 7-year Barack knew what he wanted to do later in life."

Except that back then Obama used to dress up just like Rick Santorum.

//

418 lawhawk  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:07:12am

re: #416 reflections of a raging redneck

Speaking of Jordan, you have 1970-1971 - Black September - when the PLO tried to overthrow King Hussein and Hussein killed thousands of Palestinians before kicking the PLO out of the country.

Also during 1970 - a series of Palestinian terrorists hijacked planes.

1972 - Black September Palestinian terrorists killed Israeli athletes and coaches at Munich Olympics.

1976 Entebbe raid (Palestinian terrorists capture plane, fly to Entebbe Uganda and Israeli special forces rescue hostages).

419 Gus  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:10:28am

re: #418 lawhawk

Speaking of Jordan, you have 1970-1971 - Black September - when the PLO tried to overthrow King Hussein and Hussein killed thousands of Palestinians before kicking the PLO out of the country.

Also during 1970 - a series of Palestinian terrorists hijacked planes.

1972 - Black September Palestinian terrorists killed Israeli athletes and coaches at Munich Olympics.

1976 Entebbe raid (Palestinian terrorists capture plane, fly to Entebbe Uganda and Israeli special forces rescue hostages).

But, but, the Arab Spring!

420 Gus  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:11:08am

Right wing bullshit meme of 2012: teh Arab Spring will mean teh return of teh Ottoman Empire or something and itz all Obama's fault!

Derp.

421 Daniel Ballard  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:13:10am

So any discussion on David Frums 10 questions for President Obama this morning?

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

422 Gus  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:14:36am

re: #414 William of Orange

Caption:

"And right there and then a 7-year Barack knew what he wanted to do later in life."

Here ya go.

423 b_sharp  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:14:50am

re: #420 Gus

Right wing bullshit meme of 2012: teh Arab Spring will mean teh return of teh Ottoman Empire or something and itz all Obama's fault!

Derp.

I wonder what steps Obama's critics would have taken to stop the Arab Spring?

424 Gus  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:15:33am

re: #423 reflections of a raging redneck

I wonder what steps Obama's critics would have taken to stop the Arab Spring?

Invade Egypt and Tunisia!

425 jaunte  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:16:35am

re: #423 reflections of a raging redneck

First and foremost, they would have been notObama.

Concerning the involvement of the American military in the 2011 Libyan civil war, Romney initially said in March that Obama had waited too long before becoming involved, and he also criticized Obama for ruling out the use of United States ground forces.[183] The next month, he said that he supported the "specific, limited mission" of enforcing a no-fly zone, but that Obama's support for the ouster of Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi constituted "mission creep and mission muddle."[183] In October, after Gaddafi's death, Romney said, "I think people across the world recognize that the world is a better place without Muammar Gaddafi."[183]
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

426 lawhawk  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:17:47am

Captioning time:

One ringy dingy... two ringy dingy....

I'm looking for a man who calls himself... Bucho...

This is what happens when you mess with The Doctor (President Obama thought bubble).

427 Killgore Trout  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:21:46am

re: #421 Daniel Ballard

So any discussion on David Frums 10 questions for President Obama this morning?

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

Tactically speaking most of those are pretty good advice with the exception of #6 about letting the Bush tax cuts expire. Last I checked the public was in favor of letting them expire for top earners. Also #10 is a very bad idea. Drawing attention to rabid and unreasonable obstructionism on the part of Republicans is stupid and Obama will know that one out of the park.

428 The Ghost of a Flea  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:21:52am

re: #420 Gus

Right wing bullshit meme of 2012: teh Arab Spring will mean teh return of teh Ottoman Empire or something and itz all Obama's fault!

Derp.

Because Turks and Arabs are totally the same thing and there's no bad blood there at all.

Derp.

429 Daniel Ballard  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:26:09am

re: #427 Killgore Trout

Here is one that needs to be pressed despite some rabid speculations on the right
3) After the lethal attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, U.S. intelligence agencies collected information that the attacks were premeditated and coordinated by elements of al Qaeda in Libya, and timed to the anniversary of the 9/11 attacks. Yet your administration insisted for more than a week that the attacks were a spontaneous reaction to a YouTube video. Susan Rice, U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, was sent to five Sunday morning shows to repeat a claim that she -- and you -- had to have known was untrue. The video maker is now under arrest, ostensibly because of parole violations, but pretty obviously for exercising his free-speech rights. Why didn't you just tell the truth to the American people from the start?


And this one I'd love to hear the answer from the top-
1) More than 50 U.S. and coalition soldiers have been killed so far this year by supposedly friendly Afghan forces. Two Americans were fatally shot just last week by Afghans we trained and equipped. These so-called "green on blue" attacks now account for 14% of all coalition casualties.

In 2009, you ordered 33,000 additional U.S. forces into Afghanistan. Three years later, Afghanistan looks no more stable than it did in 2009. Can you tell us specifically what the Afghan surge accomplished?

430 Someone Please Beam Me Up!  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:27:21am

re: #421 Daniel Ballard

So any discussion on David Frums 10 questions for President Obama this morning?

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

I want to see a debate in which they're both asked those questions (minus the gotchas, of course) out of earshot of each other.

431 Killgore Trout  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:27:40am

IKEA's Saudi Arabia catalog erases women; company expresses regret

IKEA Group said in a statement that its values “support the fundamental human rights of all people” and “do not accept any kind of discrimination.” IKEA Saudi Arabia, it said, is run by a franchisee outside the IKEA Group.

“As a producer of the catalog, we regret the current situation,” IKEA Group said. “We should have reacted to the exclusion of women from the Saudi Arabian version of the catalog since it does not align with the IKEA Group values.”

The company continued: “We are now reviewing our routines to safeguard a correct content presentation from a values point of view in the different versions of the IKEA Catalogue worldwide.”

432 Obdicut  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:28:07am

re: #351 Killgore Trout

Obama’s claim that the Bush tax cuts led to the economic crisis

Outrageous!

Yeah, that's a good example of why people who blindly swallow what the factcheckers have to offer are stupid.

First of all, what Obama actually said is that Romney was going to follow the same trickle-down economics which led to the meltdown in the first place. It wasn't that the Bush Tax cuts on their own was the problem, it was the whole trickle-down philosophy. And this is true: from privledging investment income, to deregulation of the financial industry, a trickle-down approach, thinking that wealth creation at the highest level is the best way to keep the economy strong, is indeed what led to the meltdown.

It's really interesting how people, even self-professed cynics, fall for a rebranded media source calling itself a 'factchecker'.

433 jaunte  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:28:11am

re: #429 Daniel Ballard

The video maker is now under arrest, ostensibly because of parole violations, but pretty obviously for exercising his free-speech rights.

Is there any evidence of that?

434 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:28:27am

re: #430 Someone Please Beam Me Up!

I want to see a debate in which they're both asked those questions (minus the gotchas, of course) out of earshot of each other.

Kinda like The Dating Game.:)

435 Eventual Carrion  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:28:48am

re: #425 jaunte

First and foremost, they would have been notObama.

Flopping like a fish on the deck of a boat.

436 Obdicut  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:30:18am

re: #429 Daniel Ballard

The video maker is now under arrest, ostensibly because of parole violations, but pretty obviously for exercising his free-speech rights.

I can't believe this conspiracy story is actually being spread seriously. His parole said he had to stay off the internet. He kind of obviously didn't. Once the authorities were aware of this, he was arrested for violating his parole. I do not fucking get how people are coming up with a conspiracy around that.

437 Gus  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:31:46am

re: #435 Eventual Carrion

Flopping like a fish on the deck of a boat.

Mitt Romney the nimble policy gymnast.

438 Gus  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:31:57am

Mitt Romney is like a box of chocolates...

439 Someone Please Beam Me Up!  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:32:13am

re: #429 Daniel Ballard

Here is one that needs to be pressed despite some rabid speculations on the right
3) After the lethal attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, U.S. intelligence agencies collected information that the attacks were premeditated and coordinated by elements of al Qaeda in Libya, and timed to the anniversary of the 9/11 attacks. Yet your administration insisted for more than a week that the attacks were a spontaneous reaction to a YouTube video. Susan Rice, U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, was sent to five Sunday morning shows to repeat a claim that she -- and you -- had to have known was untrue. The video maker is now under arrest, ostensibly because of parole violations, but pretty obviously for exercising his free-speech rights. Why didn't you just tell the truth to the American people from the start?

And this one I'd love to hear the answer from the top-
1) More than 50 U.S. and coalition soldiers have been killed so far this year by supposedly friendly Afghan forces. Two Americans were fatally shot just last week by Afghans we trained and equipped. These so-called "green on blue" attacks now account for 14% of all coalition casualties.

In 2009, you ordered 33,000 additional U.S. forces into Afghanistan. Three years later, Afghanistan looks no more stable than it did in 2009. Can you tell us specifically what the Afghan surge accomplished?

The answer to the second one is "kept things from completely falling apart," just like the Iraq surge. (The real answer is there's no way of knowing unless we go back to 2009 and try it the other way. How do you expect anyone to do that?)

The answer to the first is 1) a) What does it matter? and b) Have you looked at the reasons for revoking his parole? Why does it look "pretty obvious?"

441 Gus  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:33:39am

re: #440 Gus

Paul Ryan: 'I Don't Have The Time' To Tell You How We'll Pay For Our Tax Plan

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Someone needs to turn off their echo effect in their recording program.

442 Killgore Trout  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:34:15am

re: #429 Daniel Ballard

Personally I'm not that concerned about the Libya thing. Of course in hind sight security should have been better but these things happen. Republicans can possibly make some political points with it if they're careful.
The problem with the questions about the Afghan surge (and pretty much everything else on the list) is that Mitt has no serious plans of his own, At least nothing with any substance. After reading Mitt's WSJ article this morning he's just back seat driving, complaining, using catch phrases without contributing anything serious of his own. Many of Frum's questions are decent ideas from a political standpoint but I don;t think Mitt is in a very good position to take advantage of them.

443 The Ghost of a Flea  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:35:18am

re: #440 Gus

Paul Ryan: 'I Don't Have The Time' To Tell You How We'll Pay For Our Tax Plan

[Embedded content]

Alchemy is very complicated.

444 jaunte  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:35:36am

re: #440 Gus

Jonathan Chait:

The Paul Ryan Legend Dissipates

"...Wallace is trying to do something that Ryan is not used to: ask him how the numbers in his plan add up. The Romney tax plan is premised on a mathematical impossibility. It promises to reduce tax rates by 20 percent and cover the lost revenue by eliminating tax deductions, exempting tax breaks for investment income. Even making a series of assumptions ranging from friendly to impossibly friendly, it can’t add up. The lost revenue from the tax rate cuts on income over $250,000 exceeds the available revenue from eliminating deductions. Even Republican attempts to disprove this finding have inadvertently confirmed it.

445 Kragar  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:35:38am

re: #440 Gus

Paul Ryan: 'I Don't Have The Time' To Tell You How We'll Pay For Our Tax Plan

[Embedded content]

Which works out well considering I won't have time to vote for them.

446 Mr. Crankypants  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:36:29am

re: #440 Gus

Paul Ryan: 'I Don't Have The Time' To Tell You How We'll Pay For Our Tax Plan

[Embedded content]

If you can't show the math, you don't have the math.

447 Gus  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:36:52am

re: #446 Mr. Crankypants

If you can't show the math, you don't have the math.

If the math don't fit...

448 Mr. Crankypants  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:37:51am

re: #447 Gus

If the math don't fit...

You're full of shit.

449 Daniel Ballard  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:38:24am

re: #436 Obdicut

Me neither. But that still leaves us with quite a disconnect between the statements and the apparent reality of it being an AQ anniversary strike. I had one idea, to try and keep AQ from getting credit for it. But that's just a generous guess.

450 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:38:29am

re: #421 Daniel Ballard

So any discussion on David Frums 10 questions for President Obama this morning?

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

How 'bout this, David Frum is a willfully obtuse ass.
His list of questions confirms this.

451 blueraven  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:39:21am

re: #447 Gus

If the math don't fit...

You must be Mitt

452 Kragar  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:39:38am

Beck: It would take a miracle for Romney to win (not quite what he said but...)

Eventually, the topic turned toward the current election, where Beck admitted that though Mitt Romney was not his first choice to be the Republican presidential nominee, he feels good about the upcoming election, as does everyone Beck considers to be a "spiritual giant," despite the fact that "nothing looks good" and all the polls and campaign developments are telling him that there is "no reason that I should feel good on this."

But it is exactly the dire state of the campaign that is making Beck so confident because, as he said, "God is trying to make this so clear to us that, if it happens, it's His finger" as both Beck and Barton went on to credit Romney's deep spiritual life and compare him to George Washington:

453 Obdicut  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:40:01am

re: #449 Daniel Ballard

Me neither. But that still leaves us with quite a disconnect between the statements and the apparent reality of it being an AQ anniversary strike. I had one idea, to try and keep AQ from getting credit for it. But that's just a generous guess.

I dunno. It doesn't seem that important to me.

454 Gus  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:40:09am

re: #451 blueraven

You must be Mitt

...you're just a twit!

455 BongCrodny  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:41:20am

re: #438 Gus

Mitt Romney is like a box of chocolates...

Agreed.

Crunchy Frog, Ram's Bladder Cup, Cockroach Cluster and Anthrax Ripple.

456 blueraven  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:41:52am

re: #454 Gus

...you're just a twit!

that loves cheezy grits

457 Killgore Trout  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:46:11am

Unfortunately the fix for Afghanistan means fixing Pakistan and that ain't gonna happen.

458 Lidane  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:49:38am

re: #436 Obdicut

His parole said he had to stay off the internet. He kind of obviously didn't. Once the authorities were aware of this, he was arrested for violating his parole. I do not fucking get how people are coming up with a conspiracy around that.

Because of reasons, that's why!

Seriously. I don't get it either. He was barred from using a computer and from going on the internet as conditions of his parole. It's pretty goddamn obvious he violated those terms. Ergo, he got arrested for parole violations.

There's no conspiracy behind it. No suppression of his free speech rights. He had certain conditions to his freedom and he violated them. Simple as that.

459 Killgore Trout  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:51:21am

American rights group arrives in Pakistan to participate in Pakistan peace rally

Ignoring a travel warning issued by the U.S. State Department for Pakistan, a 30-member U.S. civil society delegation has reached Islamabad to participate in the rally organised by Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) on October 7 to protest against drone strikes.
...
Wright said U.S. is violating the sovereignty of Pakistan by carrying out drone strikes.

"We believe that travel warning is issued because the U.S. government does not want us to see what they are doing. We believe the President of the US is killing innocent people in Pakistan, that is wrong," Wright said.

460 b_sharp  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:52:41am

re: #429 Daniel Ballard

And this one I'd love to hear the answer from the top-
1) More than 50 U.S. and coalition soldiers have been killed so far this year by supposedly friendly Afghan forces. Two Americans were fatally shot just last week by Afghans we trained and equipped. These so-called "green on blue" attacks now account for 14% of all coalition casualties.

In 2009, you ordered 33,000 additional U.S. forces into Afghanistan. Three years later, Afghanistan looks no more stable than it did in 2009. Can you tell us specifically what the Afghan surge accomplished?

The purpose of the surge was to enable a US pull out by building up the Afghan forces so they can take over and as protection for a “population-centric counterinsurgency” - a rebuilding and expansion of Afghan physical infrastructure. In 2009 there were 93,000 soldiers and 77,000 police. Now there are 200,000 soldiers and 149,000 police.


The number of American military killed is not a measure of the country's stability. Nor is it a measure of success in rebuilding infrastructure. It only takes a few Taliban/al-Qaeda operatives to kill many NATO soldiers, making it look like the training has been a failure, but unless a significant portion of the Afghan police/military are operatives, then that intended goal of the Afghan surge has been successful.

Frum's question is irrelevant because it moves the goal posts.

461 Killgore Trout  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:53:11am

re: #458 Lidane

Seriously. I don't get it either. He was barred from using a computer and from going on the internet as conditions of his parole. It's pretty goddamn obvious he violated those terms. Ergo, he got arrested for parole violations.

There's no conspiracy behind it. No suppression of his free speech rights. He had certain conditions to his freedom and he violated them. Simple as that.

I don't think it was something as simple as using the internet. The real issue was his using fake identities and obtaining fraudulent ID's, passports and bank accounts.

462 gwangung  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:53:33am

re: #458 Lidane

Seriously. I don't get it either. He was barred from using a computer and from going on the internet as conditions of his parole. It's pretty goddamn obvious he violated those terms. Ergo, he got arrested for parole violations.

There's no conspiracy behind it. No suppression of his free speech rights. He had certain conditions to his freedom and he violated them. Simple as that.

I think there were other parole conditions other than use of the Internet that this bozo violated....

463 Kragar  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:53:42am

re: #459 Killgore Trout

"We believe that travel warning is issued because the U.S. government does not want us to see what they are doing. We believe the President of the US is killing innocent people in Pakistan, that is wrong," Wright said.

No chance at all the warning could be in place because militants hostile to the US operate in the region, who have kidnapped and killed Americans in the past.
///

464 gwangung  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:54:10am

re: #461 Killgore Trout

I don't think it was something as simple as using the internet. The real issue was his using fake identities and obtaining fraudulent ID's, passports and bank accounts.

Yeah. I don't think freedom of speech really applies to those actions.

465 b_sharp  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:54:16am

re: #433 jaunte

Is there any evidence of that?

It's a possibility and it goes to motives so it must be the truth.

466 Daniel Ballard  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:54:21am

re: #453 Obdicut

When our leadership tells us one thing about the killing of an Ambassador, a thing that seemed rather unlikely to begin with and the facts run quite contrary it's a serious point.

If that same man had put another dancing squirrel video up I doubt he would have been arrested.

467 blueraven  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:54:29am

re: #436 Obdicut

I can't believe this conspiracy story is actually being spread seriously. His parole said he had to stay off the internet. He kind of obviously didn't. Once the authorities were aware of this, he was arrested for violating his parole. I do not fucking get how people are coming up with a conspiracy around that.

No, we are supposed to ignore his parole violations, and the fact that he is a known criminal because free speech. That's why.

468 Lidane  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:54:34am

re: #461 Killgore Trout

I don't think it was something as simple as using the internet. The real issue was his using fake identities and obtaining fraudulent ID's, passports and bank accounts.

It's all of it. There were explicit prohibitions in his conditions of parole preventing use of the internet and of computers. The rest of it is just another list of felonies to add to his resume.

469 Gus  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:56:24am

re: #464 gwangung

Yeah. I don't think freedom of speech really applies to those actions.

Unless you're a sovereign citizen.

//

470 Killgore Trout  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:56:26am

re: #463 Kragar

No chance at all the warning could be in place because militants hostile to the US operate in the region, who have kidnapped and killed Americans in the past.
///

I really hope these idiots survive this.

471 blueraven  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:57:23am

re: #466 Daniel Ballard

When our leadership tells us one thing about the killing of an Ambassador, a thing that seemed rather unlikely to begin with and the facts run quite contrary it's a serious point.

If that same man had put another dancing squirrel video up I doubt he would have been arrested.

But he didn't put up a dancing squirrel video, did he?
He put up a video that brought him to the attention of the whole world.
apples and oranges

472 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:57:42am

re: #438 Gus

Mitt Romney is like a box of chocolates...

I wonder if he ever bought Ann a car-bon-bon.

473 danarchy  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:57:47am

I kind of miss Ross Perot. He was a crazy old coot, but he made things interesting.

Perot 20 years later

474 Lidane  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:57:56am

re: #462 gwangung

I think there were other parole conditions other than use of the Internet that this bozo violated....

Well obviously. But the conspiracy that he got arrested for expressing his free speech rights is rendered moot when you realize he couldn't go online or use computers as part of his parole.

475 Kragar  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:58:50am

re: #470 Killgore Trout

I really hope these idiots survive this.

Image: mistakesdemotivator.jpg

476 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:58:52am

re: #443 The Ghost of a Flea

Alchemy is very complicated.

And you need The Philosopher's Dollar to make alchemical financing and budget balancing work.

477 Killgore Trout  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:58:59am

Ben & Jerry's Co-Founder Repossesses Occupy Wall Street 'Batmobile'

Ben & Jerry’s ice cream co-founder Ben Cohen wants his Occupy Wall Street "Batmobile" back.

Earlier this year, Cohen doled out nearly $30,000 to a group of Occupy Wall Street activists with an unusual idea — for a passenger van to be rigged with a powerful projector that would beam progressive messages onto the sides of buildings.
...
After a lengthy “custody battle,” the activists agreed to share the van with Cohen through the end of the summer and then hand it over to him on Monday.

“He didn’t want to have to bother with the messy part of being in a democracy,” said Mark Read, the activist who initially proposed The Illuminator idea and helped operate it.

“He’s a 1 percenter,” Read, 46, added, “telling the 99 percent, ‘I’m your boss.’”

478 HappyWarrior  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:59:16am

re: #474 Lidane

Well obviously. But the conspiracy that he got arrested for expressing his free speech rights is rendered moot when you realize he couldn't go online or use computers as part of his parole.

People always want a martyr.

479 Lidane  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:59:43am

re: #473 danarchy

I kind of miss Ross Perot. He was a crazy old coot, but he made things interesting.

Perot 2o years later

Perot ran a better campaign than Romney has.

For all his crazy, no one can say that the old coot didn't have ideas that he went on about at length. And we still have his legacy in the form of the Tea Party, since they're basically Perot voters.

480 allegro  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 10:00:33am

re: #452 Kragar

But it is exactly the dire state of the campaign that is making Beck so confident because, as he said, "God is trying to make this so clear to us that, if it happens, it's His finger"

And when Romney loses by a crushing margin, we'll know just which finger God is giving him.

481 b_sharp  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 10:00:37am

re: #466 Daniel Ballard

When our leadership tells us one thing about the killing of an Ambassador, a thing that seemed rather unlikely to begin with and the facts run quite contrary it's a serious point.

If that same man had put another dancing squirrel video up I doubt he would have been arrested.

The difference between a dancing squirrel video and the anti-Muslim movie is notoriety. It's not likely the parole board would have noticed his use of the Internet because of a dancing squirrel video.

482 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 10:01:12am

re: #477 Killgore Trout

Man, those guys know how to show appreciation.
/

483 Kragar  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 10:03:04am

re: #480 allegro

And when Romney loses by a crushing margin, we'll know just which finger God is giving him.

I love the whole "Romney is only failing so we can see God's hand when he wins" idea. That has got to be the funniest shit I've read in a long time.

484 The Ghost of a Flea  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 10:03:18am

re: #478 HappyWarrior

People always want a martyr.

Call me cynical, but Nakoula is sufficiently big a grifter that I look at the arrest and "martyrdom" as part of a scam rather than a mishap. His new anti-Islam, "free speech" positioning is easily monetized.

485 HappyWarrior  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 10:04:01am

re: #484 The Ghost of a Flea

Call me cynical, but Nakoula is sufficiently big a grifter that I look at the arrest and "martyrdom" as part of a scam rather than a mishap. His new anti-Islam, "free speech" positioning is easily monetized.

Nothing shocks me these days, so sure.

486 HappyWarrior  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 10:05:09am

Re: Perot. I remember the parodies of him more than him himself. The parody I remember most and this is where I show my youth is Amanda Bynes playing him on Nickeldeon.

487 Kragar  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 10:06:15am
488 HappyWarrior  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 10:07:23am

re: #487 Kragar

Ahmadinejad's Camerman Defected During His U.N. Visit

Just wait till his tailor defects.

489 kirkspencer  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 10:08:49am

re: #486 HappyWarrior

Re: Perot. I remember the parodies of him more than him himself. The parody I remember most and this is where I show my youth is Amanda Bynes playing him on Nickeldeon.

If I'd not been in the military I'd have gone to the booth and voted for someone else instead of sending in my mail ballot 2 days before his 'black helicopter' breakdown.

490 lawhawk  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 10:09:21am

re: #487 Kragar

I wonder how much that relates to the arrest of one of Ahmadinejad's media flacks back in Iran at around the same time Ahmadinejad was in NYC for the General Assembly.

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s top press adviser was taken into custody to begin serving a six-month jail sentence after being convicted of publishing material deemed insulting to the country’s supreme leader.

Ali Akbar Javanfekr, who is also the head of the state-run IRNA news agency, is one of dozens of Ahmadinejad’s allies detained since April 2011 in the fallout from a political feud between the president and the country’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. Iran’s hardline political establishment slapped down Ahmadinejad and his supporters after the president briefly challenged an order from the country’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei over the choice of intelligence chief.

The semiofficial Fars news agency said judicial agents detained Javanfekr late Wednesday. IRNA said Javanfekr was arrested as Ahmadinejad, who had shielded his press adviser in the past from arrest, began his speech at the U.N. General Assembly in New York.

That's just another round in the longstanding power play between Ahmadinejad and the Guardian Council and Supreme Leader, and the cameraman may have wanted no part of what was waiting for him upon his return to Iran after the General Assembly visit.

491 Kragar  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 10:12:56am

Bachmann Warns Obama May be Aiding the Rise of Global Sharia Law

Bachmann: It almost sounds like he’s trying to speak as “‘Emperor of the World,’ telling the world what to do, as opposed to being the President of the United States who should be adamant and say it’s outrageous that these Islamist countries should be calling on the United States to take away the constitutional protections of the American people. This is very important to think that the United States would restrict speech of Americans. Now the president did talk in his remarks about the fact that we do have a constitutional right to free speech but really the only focus of that speech should have been under no circumstances will the United States ever subvert the Constitution to Sharia law. We didn’t get that kind of a forceful statement from our President.

Mefferd: No and that goes back to the day right after the consulate attack I think Mitt Romney did so much better than the President himself and saying we’re Americans, we believe in free speech, this was unacceptable. From Obama, it was sort of a ‘Chris Stevens was a really great guy’ and that was about it.

Bachmann: It was; it was ridiculous. Here we’ve been attacked, these were acts of war, what happened to us in Cairo, what happened to us in Libya, these were acts of war. Again, don’t forget these fifty-seven Muslim governments have a ten year plan: their goal is to criminalize speech against Islam. Why? Because they intend to establish a Caliphate, an Islamic government, across the entire world so that it isn’t just our speech rights that we would give up, we would have to give up all rights eventually and we would have to conform to Sharia law, the Islamic law. As women know, this would be a disaster for women, for freedom, for free speech. We’re not an Islamic nation, people can believe whatever they want to believe here, but we’re not an Islamic nation, we believe in freedom and I only wish our President would articulate American values. That’s one thing we’re getting from Mitt Romney, we are not getting it from Barack Obama. I’ll say it again, I believe he is the most dangerous president we have ever had on foreign policy and for that reason alone he must not have a second term.

492 HappyWarrior  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 10:15:46am

re: #491 Kragar

Bachmann Warns Obama May be Aiding the Rise of Global Sharia Law

I am so not going to miss her when she's defeated for her congressional seat. Unfortunately, I just know that Fox probably has a show just waiting for her or if not that will at least have her as a frequent guest.

493 Daniel Ballard  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 10:16:44am

re: #481 reflections of a raging redneck

Like it or not his arrest & prosecution serves as a further distraction from the real roots of the attack. Which we apparently got the better briefing on from the President of Libya.

(CBS News) About 50 arrests have been made in connection with the attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi in which the American Ambassador and three other consulate employees were killed, and some of the suspects involved are from outside the country, Libya's president told CBS News.

In an interview for "Face the Nation" Sunday, President Mohamed Magariaf also said that evidence "leaves us with no doubt" that the attack was pre-planned.

"It was planned, definitely, it was planned by foreigners, by people who entered the country a few months ago, and they were planning this criminal act since their arrival," he told Bob Schieffer.

On the same program, however, U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice said the U.S. has no evidence proving that the attacks in Benghazi were premeditated.

494 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 10:17:42am
495 b_sharp  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 10:17:46am

re: #492 HappyWarrior

I am so not going to miss her when she's defeated for her congressional seat. Unfortunately, I just know that Fox probably has a show just waiting for her or if not that will at least have her as a frequent guest.

Palin's star is waning so they'll need somebody to take her place.

496 Lidane  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 10:17:57am
497 Someone Please Beam Me Up!  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 10:18:55am

re: #493 Daniel Ballard

re: #493 Daniel Ballard

"It was planned, definitely, it was planned by foreigners, by people who entered the country a few months ago, and they were planning this criminal act since their arrival," he told Bob Schieffer.

Yup, nothing self-serving about that, no sirree bob!

498 HappyWarrior  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 10:19:29am

re: #495 reflections of a raging redneck

Palin's star is waning so they'll need somebody to take her place.

Heh yep.

499 Kragar  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 10:19:39am

re: #496 Lidane

Crazy woman says what?

Mob violence/terrorist attack = Act of War by a sovereign government

500 freetoken  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 10:19:48am

re: #450 Reverend Mother Ramallo

How 'bout this, David Frum is a willfully obtuse ass.
His list of questions confirms this.

Yes, a list of questions in which Frum demonstrates he's desperate to get back into the good graces of the far right, but will do it through implication rather than owning his newly re-found conservatism.

501 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 10:20:46am

When are they going to go the conspiracist full monty and start accusing Obama of being in league with lizard aliens from the fifth dimension? It's already out there on the fringe, and the GOP has a habit of bringing the lunatic fringe into the mainstream.

502 Daniel Ballard  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 10:21:16am

re: #497 Someone Please Beam Me Up!

So you buy the idea the attack was all about the movie? Pretty interesting that ordinary protesters would have heavy weapons like RPG's. That statement makes the new president look weak. Not terribly self serving when you consider that.

how would it hurt him to back the movie theory?

503 b_sharp  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 10:21:37am

re: #493 Daniel Ballard

Like it or not his arrest & prosecution serves as a further distraction from the real roots of the attack. Which we apparently got the better briefing on from the President of Libya.

(CBS News) About 50 arrests have been made in connection with the attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi in which the American Ambassador and three other consulate employees were killed, and some of the suspects involved are from outside the country, Libya's president told CBS News.

In an interview for "Face the Nation" Sunday, President Mohamed Magariaf also said that evidence "leaves us with no doubt" that the attack was pre-planned.

"It was planned, definitely, it was planned by foreigners, by people who entered the country a few months ago, and they were planning this criminal act since their arrival," he told Bob Schieffer.

On the same program, however, U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice said the U.S. has no evidence proving that the attacks in Benghazi were premeditated.

It's quite possible the 'evidence' is sufficient for Magarief but doesn't meet the level for evidence required by the US. Would you rather the US reaction be based on substantive evidence or on conjecture?

504 freetoken  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 10:22:55am

DNA evidence exonerates 300th prisoner nationwide

[...]

He unsuccessfully appealed his conviction in 1999, arguing that he was coerced into giving a false, unrecorded confession after being interrogated for nine hours by Jefferson Parish sheriff's investigators. He also said that there was insufficient evidence to convict him and that he did not receive a fair trial.

"This is a tragic illustration of why law enforcement must record the entire interrogation of any witness or potential suspect in any investigation involving a serious crime," said one of Thibodeaux's attorneys, Steve Kaplan of the Minneapolis firm Fredrikson & Byron.

[...]

505 Eventual Carrion  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 10:23:02am

re: #479 Lidane

Perot ran a better campaign than Romney has.

For all his crazy, no one can say that the old coot didn't have ideas that he went on about at length. And we still have his legacy in the form of the Tea Party, since they're basically Perot voters.

I voted for him

{hangs head}

506 Daniel Ballard  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 10:23:15am

re: #503 reflections of a raging redneck

Your premise of either or in this case may not be warranted.

507 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 10:25:52am

re: #452 Kragar

Beck: It would take a miracle for Romney to win (not quite what he said but...)


But it is exactly the dire state of the campaign that is making Beck so confident because, as he said, "God is trying to make this so clear to us that, if it happens, it's His finger" as both Beck and Barton went on to credit Romney's deep spiritual life and compare him to George Washington:

If Romney wins, God is giving us the finger. Got it.

508 Kragar  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 10:27:53am

I don't know why I expected better, but once again Yahoo comments lead to the cesspool of the internet.

California law bans gay teen 'conversion' therapy

CommonSense 2 mins 41 secs ago

Got to love it when gay people try to tell everyone else what is in the Bible.....unbelievable!!!! This country is doomed to rot in hell....
---
joseph 2 mins 24 secs ago

God dosen't make someone gay at birth, he is not cruel. California is now stopping someone to help them be normal again. what a state.
---
Da Bear • 9 mins ago

The state is bankrupt, schools are an embarrassment, homeless on every street corner and this closet gay comrade with no kids and a marriage of convenience thinks this is a priority?
---
deadpaddyj • 3 mins 48 secs ago

I figured that California had therapy for straight teenagers that would make them gay.

509 b_sharp  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 10:28:03am

re: #506 Daniel Ballard

Your premise of either or in this case may not be warranted.

Conjecture doesn't mean no evidence, it means insufficient evidence.

510 Daniel Ballard  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 10:37:49am

re: #509 reflections of a raging redneck

I happen to think the idea it was a long pre planned attack was obvious. Just from the date and the severity of the attack. But hey opinions vary.

511 b_sharp  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 10:42:25am

re: #510 Daniel Ballard

I happen to think the idea it was a long pre planned attack was obvious. Just from the date and the severity of the attack. But hey opinions vary.

I'd rather wait until the evidence is in. It's likely it was a planned attack, but I appreciate the US taking the time to verify that before sounding off.

512 Mr. Crankypants  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 10:58:59am

re: #510 Daniel Ballard

I happen to think the idea it was a long pre planned attack was obvious. Just from the date and the severity of the attack. But hey opinions vary.

It's easy to find things obvious in hindsight as opposed to in the heat of the moment when you're trying to figure out wtf just happened.

513 Mich-again  Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:14:52pm

re: #380 Killgore Trout

It's hard to tell. I think he'd be fine with a Dem controlled congress, more open to comprimise once in office. But with Republicans in control of both houses there's no telling what kind of nonsense he'd sign into law. I'm much more worried about congressional Republicans that I am concerned with Mitt.

I could have written that exact same post. I think he'd be a fine decent President with a Democratic House and Senate. But with the Tea Party running the House, I don't think Mitt would be strong enough to counter their extremism.


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