1 Kragar  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 8:23:45pm

And that is why you always need to confirm your teleport destination.

2 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 8:26:04pm

Wait, what?

And what sort of places do these bottom-of-the-food-chain doctors work in? Places that are really a pit. You find that along with the culture of death go all kinds of other law-breaking: not following good sanitary procedure, giving abortions to women who are not actually pregnant, cheating on taxes, all these kinds of things, misuse of anesthetics so that people die or almost die...

-Todd Akin

3 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 8:29:01pm

re: #2 goddamnedfrank

Wait, what?

I saw that earlier. Really makes you wonder about what kind of morons are being elected to Congress or in Akin's case being nominated for the Senate.

4 Targetpractice  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 8:31:48pm

re: #1 Kragar

And that is why you always need to confirm your teleport destination.

"He means he went to one galaxy, his ass went to another"

5 Mattand  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 8:33:10pm

re: #2 goddamnedfrank

Wait, what?

Makes you wonder if the one misusing the anesthetic is Akin.

I just do not get how Republicans/conservatives can look at someone like this psycho and be cool with him representing their party.

And it's not like he's some outlier, either.

6 Mattand  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 8:34:22pm

re: #1 Kragar

And that is why you always need to confirm your teleport destination.

Always hire a professional:

7 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 8:35:07pm

re: #5 Mattand

Makes you wonder if the one misusing the anesthetic is Akin.

I just do not get how Republicans/conservatives can look at someone like this psycho and be cool with him representing their party.

And it's not like he's some outlier, either.

What's sad is the relatively sane ones like Huntsman are the outliers.

8 Lidane  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 8:36:41pm

re: #7 HappyWarrior

What's sad is the relatively sane ones like Huntsman are the outliers.

What's really sad is that even the outliers like Huntsman have to pander to the economic illiteracy and shitty ideas of the nutbars to get anywhere in the GOP.

9 Mich-again  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 8:37:22pm

How did the teleporter know where in the galaxy universe to send him seeing as the picture of the black hole he was looking at was just an artist's rendition of what a black hole might look like?

10 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 8:39:37pm

re: #8 Lidane

What's really sad is that even the outliers like Huntsman have to pander to the economic illiteracy and shitty ideas of the nutbars to get anywhere in the GOP.

Yep. Fucking nuts.

11 freetoken  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 8:43:42pm

Note tonight's AP story on today's managed outrage:

Conservatives seize on 2007 Obama video

[...]

There's no way you can listen to this speech and not hear it as a deliberately divisive speech that pits Americans against each other and does so largely with racial innuendoes that are very, very clear when you hear the speech," former Republican presidential candidate Newt Gingrich said on Fox News, which aired segments of the videotaped speech.

At issue Tuesday, one day before the first presidential debate and as Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney trails in polls, was a speech then-candidate Obama made to black clergy at Hampton University, a historically black institution in Virginia. Media outlets including The Associated Press and Fox News covered the remarks at the time.

[...]

Fox News host Sean Hannity said [...]

Conservative pundit Tucker Carlson of The Daily Caller, [...]

I highlighted the only part of the wire story that made it clear that this is a rerun, an attempt to make something out of what didn't work years ago.

12 Targetpractice  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 8:44:49pm

re: #11 freetoken

Note tonight's AP story on today's managed outrage:

Conservatives seize on 2007 Obama video

I highlighted the only part of the wire story that made it clear that this is a rerun, an attempt to make something out of what didn't work years ago.

I guess we should be happy, the wingnuts have taken up recycling.

13 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 8:46:17pm

re: #11 freetoken

Note tonight's AP story on today's managed outrage:

Conservatives seize on 2007 Obama video

I highlighted the only part of the wire story that made it clear that this is a rerun, an attempt to make something out of what didn't work years ago.

I love how Fox's Hannity is saying no one covered this story and the rest of the media hid it while his own freaking network reported on this five years ago. I found it very easy to find on Youtube. All it took was Obama Hampton 2007 and a video from 2007 was the third result. Really if they think there's a conspiracy to cover up this speech? Then I have to say that the right wingers at Daily CAller, Fox, etc are even more stupid than I thought.

14 Kragar  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 8:46:52pm

Fox news latest shocking new never before seen video shows Obama debating John McCain.

15 Targetpractice  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 8:47:41pm

re: #13 HappyWarrior

I love how Fox's Hannity is saying no one covered this story and the rest of the media hid it. I found it very easy to find on Youtube. All it took was Obama Hampton 2007 and a video from 2007 was the third result. Really if they think there's a conspiracy to cover up this speech? Then I have to say that the right wingers at Daily CAller, Fox, etc are even more stupid than I thought.

Remember that the political memory of most of the electorate is measured in months, a couple years at the most. To them, '06 was the ancient past.

16 jaunte  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 8:48:41pm

Maybe a glimmer of hope that open birtherism is starting to be a little unproductive for the conservative candidate:

Republican Ted Cruz and Democrat Paul Sadler, candidates for U.S. Senate, took turns treating each other like hostile witnesses during a tense hour at WFAA-TV studios in Dallas on Tuesday night.

More often, it was Sadler furiously trying to pin down Cruz on a single yes-or-no question such as whether Cruz believed Obama was a Christian or was born in the Untied States. Sadler would repeatedly cut Cruz off mid-sentence if Cruz didn't begin his response with "yes" or "no." Each time, Cruz survived the interrogation without giving Sadler the information that he wanted. (When pressed by reporters afterward, Cruz refused to say his views on Obama’s religion or place of birth and said he was focused on "the issues.")
[Link: www.texastribune.org...]

17 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 8:48:50pm

It's amazing to me, that one skinny, brown man has caused a whole population to collectively lose their shit.
Even the lemmings are confused.

18 Targetpractice  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 8:50:20pm

Tomorrow night's gonna be interesting. Already heard one pundit opine that no matter how badly Romney does, most pundits are gonna dub him the "winner." I think that's pretty much a given.

19 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 8:51:10pm

re: #18 Targetpractice

Tomorrow night's gonna be interesting. Already heard one pundit opine that no matter how badly Romney does, most pundits are gonna dub him the "winner." I think that's pretty much a given.

Yay for lowered expectations. "Romney didn't call Obama the n-word so he clearly won the debate."

20 b_sharp  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 8:52:04pm

re: #17 Reverend Mother Ramallo

It's amazing to me, that one skinny, brown man has caused a whole population to collectively lose their shit.
Even the lemmings are confused.

"... that one [intelligent, well educated,] skinny, brown man ..."

Does that explain it?

21 Targetpractice  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 8:52:16pm

re: #19 HappyWarrior

Yay for lowered expectations. "Romney didn't call Obama the n-word so he clearly won the debate."

The expectations were already lower than the Titanic. Remember, these are the same people who said that Palin "exceeded expectations" in '08 by not falling asleep at the podium.

22 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 8:52:45pm

re: #21 Targetpractice

The expectations were already lower than the Titanic. Remember, these are the same people who said that Palin "exceeded expectations" in '08 by not falling asleep at the podium.

Yeah, I was thinking about that.

23 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 8:53:42pm

RCP silently drops another inconvenient poll midday while keeping others from the same start date. This time it's the FOX poll from 9/24 that had Obama up +5, and again the dropped poll hasn't been superseded by a new one.

I've seen them do this at least half a dozen times or so now, drop inconvenient polls in seeming violation of whatever model they're using at that time, flexibly expanding and contracting the date range to create the smallest spread possible.

24 Only The Lurker Knows  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 8:54:17pm

re: #9 Mich-again

How did the teleporter know where in the galaxy universe to send him seeing as the picture of the black hole he was looking at was just an artist's rendition of what a black hole might look like?

It just found the one closest to 12 million LY away and took him to it.

Simple.

25 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 8:54:19pm

re: #20 reflections of a raging redneck

"... that one [intelligent, well educated,] skinny, brown man ..."

Does that explain it?

Yep, but I still don't get it.

26 Kragar  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 8:54:29pm

Turns out my book arrived today, on its release day, didn't have to wait till this weekend.

This Book Is Full of Spiders: Seriously, Dude, Don't Touch It

27 Lidane  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 8:55:32pm
28 jaunte  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 8:57:32pm

re: #27 Lidane

And then there's this:

29 Targetpractice  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 8:59:27pm

I still remember back in '08, when Obama pointed out that his opponent and his critics would make his race an issue, the wingnuts got into a tizzy because "OMG, he's playing the race card!!" And for much of his presidency, they snickered that he wasn't a "true black president" and asking black folks "where's your messiah now!?"

Now? They're shocked and outraged that he was on camera, 6 years ago, talking about the black community and black people.

30 darthstar  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 8:59:35pm

re: #18 Targetpractice

Tomorrow night's gonna be interesting. Already heard one pundit opine that no matter how badly Romney does, most pundits are gonna dub him the "winner." I think that's pretty much a given.

The important thing, which they pointed out on MSNBC this morning, is that most viewers get their impressions in real time, and whatever the pundits say afterward is meaningless, except to those who didn't watch the debate to begin with...so they're low-information voters anyway.

31 Targetpractice  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:00:42pm

re: #30 darthstar

The important thing, which they pointed out on MSNBC this morning, is that most viewers get their impressions in real time, and whatever the pundits say afterward is meaningless, except to those who didn't watch the debate to begin with...so they're low-information voters anyway.

Yeah. Another pundit was laying out that Romney has to make his move in the first 30 minutes, has to win the debate then, cause otherwise he's not gonna make it happen.

32 darthstar  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:01:57pm

re: #31 Targetpractice

Yeah. Another pundit was laying out that Romney has to make his move in the first 30 minutes, has to win the debate then, cause otherwise he's not gonna make it happen.

Yep...After 30 minutes you lose a good chunk of your viewers to Wheel of Fortune...or reruns of The Family Guy on the WB.

33 Gus  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:02:57pm
34 Kragar  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:03:30pm

The only people who think this video would hurt Obama's campaign are the same one who think being black hurts his campaign.

35 Gus  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:03:34pm

Grease.

36 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:03:38pm

re: #32 darthstar

Yep...After 30 minutes you lose a good chunk of your viewers to Wheel of Fortune...or reruns of The Family Guy on the WB.

I'd rather watch Family Guy re-runs than hear Mitt talk.

37 Lidane  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:04:25pm

re: #29 Targetpractice

The whole thing is hilarious in its tone deafness.

"ZOMG! A black Senator got up in front of a bunch of black clergy at a historically black university and spoke about issues important to black people! Also, did we mention he's black? RACE CARD! Eleventy!"

Totally pathetic. These guys are rank amateurs, and they just proved that racism is all they've got to run on.

38 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:04:43pm

re: #29 Targetpractice

I still remember back in '08, when Obama pointed out that his opponent and his critics would make his race an issue, the wingnuts got into a tizzy because "OMG, he's playing the race card!!" And for much of his presidency, they snickered that he wasn't a "true black president" and asking black folks "where's your messiah now!?"

Now? They're shocked and outraged that he was on camera, 6 years ago, talking about the black community and black people.

The important thing is that we never lose track of the fact that white people with wingnut sympathies are the sole arbiters of racial identity, authenticity, and how black your accent (blackcent?) is.

39 darthstar  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:05:21pm

re: #36 HappyWarrior

I'd rather watch Family Guy re-runs than hear Mitt talk.

Welcome to the 86%

40 Targetpractice  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:05:44pm

re: #37 Lidane

The whole thing is hilarious in its tone deafness.

Totally pathetic. These guys are rank amateurs, and they just proved that racism is all they've got to run on.

That's been obvious for awhile. Today's little escapade was a very lame attempt at getting attention to something that the wingnuts hoped would serve as a distraction from tonight's debate. So much for that.

41 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:06:01pm

re: #39 darthstar

Welcome to the 86%

Ha, I've been watching Family Guy since before it was popular.

42 JamesWI  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:07:38pm
43 Mich-again  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:08:51pm

re: #34 Kragar

The only people who think this video would hurt Obama's campaign are the same one who think being black hurts his campaign.

And those people were already going to vote for Romney. Every day Fox News redefines preaching to the choir.

44 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:10:25pm

re: #43 Mich-again

And those people were already going to vote for Romney. Every day Fox News redefines preaching to the choir.

Seriously. Hannity was saying oh this is going to change the outcome of the election. All it means is some dumb wingnuts will hate Obama even more now.

45 Gus  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:10:26pm
46 ozbloke  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:13:56pm

Can someone tell me how many hours till the debate?
Timezones suck, it was better when the earth was flat.

47 Mich-again  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:13:56pm

re: #45 Gus

Thanks for that Gus.. still reeling a bit over the news they are on an official hiatus. I don't think people realize how great the FF have been for 18 years now? Right up there with the greatest rock bands ever.

48 Kragar  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:14:32pm

re: #46 ozbloke

Can someone tell me how many hours till the debate?

Yes.

49 Lidane  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:15:01pm
50 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:15:13pm

re: #41 HappyWarrior

Ha, I've been watching Family Guy since before it was popular.

I watched it before it was popular and I watched it after it was popular. I'm still wondering why...

51 Gus  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:15:39pm

re: #47 Mich-again

Thanks for that Gus.. still reeling a bit over the news they are on an official hiatus. I don't think people realize how great the FF have been for 18 years now? Right up there with the greatest rock bands ever.

52 Mich-again  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:16:34pm

re: #44 HappyWarrior

Seriously. Hannity was saying oh this is going to change the outcome of the election. All it means is some dumb wingnuts will hate Obama even more now.

Net bump for Rmoney from Hann11ty report.. Zee-Ro

53 jaunte  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:16:37pm
54 ozbloke  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:17:02pm

re: #48 Kragar

Yes.

Why thank you sir.

55 Kragar  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:19:47pm

re: #54 ozbloke

Why thank you sir.

Glad I could help.

56 Lidane  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:19:55pm
57 Mich-again  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:20:35pm

re: #51 Gus

These Days..

58 ozbloke  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:20:59pm

re: #55 Kragar

Glad I could help.

Your worth your weight in gold
fish...

59 Gus  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:21:49pm

re: #57 Mich-again

These Days..

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Grohl rules.

60 Kragar  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:21:54pm

From the concert I attended last year;

61 makeitstop  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:23:24pm

re: #40 Targetpractice

That's been obvious for awhile. Today's little escapade was a very lame attempt at getting attention to something that the wingnuts hoped would serve as a distraction from tonight's debate. So much for that.

They've been looking desperately for the Obama equivalent to Romney's '47%' video. They were hoping with all their hearts that this video was it - and it appears that Han11ty (I love that!), Drudge and Carlson actually talked each other into believing it.

Idiots.

62 Only The Lurker Knows  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:24:02pm

Night Lizards. And as always.

May The Deity Of Your Choice Smile Down Upon You and Yours.

63 Gus  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:24:39pm
64 Gus  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:25:34pm

OWS

65 Gus  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:25:45pm

Pepper spray.

66 Gus  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:25:51pm

KT

67 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:26:00pm

Rapey stabby?

68 Targetpractice  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:26:10pm

re: #61 makeitstop

They've been looking desperately for the Obama equivalent to Romney's '47%' video. They were hoping with all their hearts that this video was it - and it appears that Han11ty (I love that!), Drudge and Carlson actually talked each other into believing it.

Idiots.

That's what I was thinking. They've been trying so desperately to find something, anything, that was as devastating to Obama as the 47% video was to Romney. Yet they keep missing the point of why the video was so devastating to Romney in the first place.

69 Gus  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:26:20pm

re: #67 HappyWarrior

Rapey stabby?

Sometimes.

70 Mich-again  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:26:22pm

re: #59 Gus

No kidding.. huge fan ever since the days of Nirvana. I even took the family on a bit of a side trip when we were driving through Ohio to see Dave Grohl Alley in Warren Ohio this past Summer. Unofficial shrine to the greatest rocker of our time.

71 jaunte  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:26:26pm

re: #66 Gus

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

72 Mich-again  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:27:14pm

re: #63 Gus

That one still gets me fired up.. I must have watched this 100 times.. 101 now.

73 Gus  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:27:29pm

re: #71 jaunte

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Classic. That's pretty standard. ;)

74 Gus  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:28:36pm

The good part is that I haven't been outraged all day. I spent most of the day laughing.

75 Kragar  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:28:38pm

re: #68 Targetpractice

Reposting from earlierL

"You see here, we have a video where Obama mentions Reverend Wright."
"Yeah, so whats the big deal?"
"We have a video where Obama mentions Reverend Wright"
"And?"
"See, we have a video."
"Yeah, got that."
"And Obama mentions Reverend Wright in it."
"Okay, so what is the bombshell?"
"We have a video where Obama mentions Reverend Wright."

76 Mich-again  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:29:02pm

re: #63 Gus

Charles made a thread out of that video back around the time of the Robert Spencer flounce party here..

77 jaunte  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:31:07pm

re: #74 Gus

Looking around Twitter: Jason B. Whitman, Chuck Woolery, Brooks Bayne, D. Loesch, Adam Baldwin... they all seem a little tense.

78 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:31:32pm

Ha, some right wing idiot I know is posting this infographic with corporations that Bain invested in and using it as proof that Romney's somehow competent on the economy. Yeah, it took a real genius to invest in Dunkin Donuts when they were already a multimillion dollar corp.

79 Lidane  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:31:41pm

re: #74 Gus

The good part is that I haven't been outraged all day. I spent most of the day laughing.

That's the best part. I haven't seen any actual outrage anywhere. Most people are just pointing and laughing that the big reveal was a video of a speech that's been on YouTube since 2007 and which was widely covered in the press at the time.

What a bunch of losers.

80 Gus  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:31:56pm

re: #77 jaunte

Looking around Twitter: Jason B. Whitman, Chuck Woolery, Brooks Bayne, D. Loesch, Adam Baldwin... they all seem a little tense.

Oh that made me laugh to a snort.

81 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:32:07pm

re: #77 jaunte

Looking around Twitter: Jason B. Whitman, Chuck Woolery, Brooks Bayne, D. Loesch, Adam Baldwin... they all seem a little tense.

Adam Baldwin was Animal Mother in Full Metal Jacket, right? I always get him mixed up with the one Baldwin brother who became a born again.

82 Gus  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:32:14pm

Poor fellas.

83 Kragar  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:32:49pm

re: #81 HappyWarrior

Adam Baldwin was Animal Mother in Full Metal Jacket, right? I always get him mixed up with the one Baldwin brother who became a born again.

Adam is the non-Baldwin Baldwin.

84 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:33:08pm

re: #79 Lidane

That's the best part. I haven't seen any actual outrage anywhere. Most people are just pointing and laughing that the big reveal was a video of a speech that's been on YouTube since 2007 and which was widely covered in the press at the time.

What a bunch of losers.

They're also claiming the media "hid" the video. It was so easy to find on youtube. Really these jokers should be embarrassed. I'm so amused by them at this point.

85 jaunte  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:33:08pm

re: #81 HappyWarrior

Stephen; I always remember Adam as "The Bodyguard."

86 Lidane  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:33:20pm

re: #78 HappyWarrior

Ha, some right wing idiot I know is posting this infographic with corporations that Bain invested in and using it as proof that Romney's somehow competent on the economy. Yeah, it took a real genius to invest in Dunkin Donuts when they were already a multimillion dollar corp.

I've seen that floating around for a while. It's like bragging that you invested in Apple two years ago. The REAL genius is the guy who invested in Apple back when Steve Jobs wasn't there, and has held on to his stocks since.

87 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:33:31pm

re: #83 Kragar

Adam is the non-Baldwin Baldwin.

Ah thanks.

88 Lidane  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:34:24pm

re: #81 HappyWarrior

Adam Baldwin was Animal Mother in Full Metal Jacket, right? I always get him mixed up with the one Baldwin brother who became a born again.

Yes. He's also Jayne Cobb in both Firefly and Serenity and he was on Chuck.

Shame he turned out to be a wingnut. Oh well. At least his Jayne hat is cool.

89 simoom  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:34:27pm

Another mention of the fact that Drudge's race-baiting top-of-the-page teaser about the 2007 video linked to the Romney Campaign's donation page:
[Link: www.theatlantic.com...]

For several hours, the Drudge Report has been teasing that a bombshell video will air on Sean Hannity's Fox News show Tuesday night -- some of it while linking to a page for donations on Mitt Romney's site.

Someone should ask them how much higher than normal their incoming donation totals were -- we can then suss out the racial animus driven drudge money.

90 Gus  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:34:50pm
91 jaunte  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:35:39pm
92 darthstar  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:35:47pm

re: #67 HappyWarrior

Rapey stabby?

If you insist.

93 Targetpractice  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:36:22pm

re: #78 HappyWarrior

Ha, some right wing idiot I know is posting this infographic with corporations that Bain invested in and using it as proof that Romney's somehow competent on the economy. Yeah, it took a real genius to invest in Dunkin Donuts when they were already a multimillion dollar corp.

That's alright, I got one who thinks that the GST guys should actually be thankful to Bain, because their profitable plant was gonna be shut down in '94 if no buyer could be found, but instead got to work until Bain ran the company into the ground in '01 and disappeared before the debt collectors showed up. In other words, he thinks they should be thankful they got to work 8 more years, even if they don't have a pension or healthcare now that their company's gone belly-up.

94 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:36:33pm

re: #90 Gus

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Oh derpy derp. Though I have to say, it should have been a felony to wear all those bowties that Tucker wears.

95 jaunte  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:37:19pm

re: #94 HappyWarrior

Has anyone asked him if he feels bad about copying George Will?

96 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:37:20pm

re: #93 Targetpractice

That's alright, I got one who thinks that the GST guys should actually be thankful to Bain, because their profitable plant was gonna be shut down in '94 if no buyer could be found, but instead got to work until Bain ran the company into the ground in '01 and disappeared before the debt collectors showed up. In other words, he thinks they should be thankful they got to work 8 more years, even if they don't have a pension or healthcare now that their company's gone belly-up.

Lovely.

97 Gus  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:37:25pm

re: #94 HappyWarrior

Oh derpy derp. Though I have to say, it should have been a felony to wear all those bowties that Tucker wears.

I'm laughing my ass off.

98 jaunte  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:38:14pm
99 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:38:19pm

re: #97 Gus

I'm laughing my ass off.

Oh I am too. This is even more hilarious to me than Mitt using that audio clip from 1998 after the 47% clip came out. The desperation these guys have is so amusing to me.

100 Targetpractice  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:38:32pm

re: #96 HappyWarrior

Lovely.

Seriously, he argues that somehow, 8 years of paychecks makes up for the fact that the bankrupt company had to renege its promises to pensions, healthcare, severance pay, and so forth.

101 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:39:55pm

re: #100 Targetpractice

Seriously, he argues that somehow, 8 years of paychecks makes up for the fact that the bankrupt company had to renege its promises to pensions, healthcare, severance pay, and so forth.

I believe it. Seriously fucked up. And I really feel for any worker that happened to. My great uncle worked for Bethelem Steel for a good forty years before he got sick. He passed away before Bethelem took away the pension they promised to the employees but man it was hard not to think of him when I read about that ten years or so back.

102 Lidane  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:40:53pm

Poor Erick, Son of Erick. It must hurt to realize your candidate sucks. Haha.

103 Mich-again  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:41:25pm

blech..

104 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:43:09pm

re: #103 Mich-again

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blech..

Yeah.....because when I think of Playboy posing material, I think of Ann Coulter.

105 ozbloke  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:44:16pm

re: #103 Mich-again

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blech..

I didn't think playboy posted images of penises.

106 Targetpractice  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:44:29pm

re: #103 Mich-again

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blech..

I will not comment on this, as some of the womenfolk around this blog have a tendency to get edgy when the looks of conservative women are commented upon.

107 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:44:31pm

Haha the like Mitt Romney page on facebook is so pathetic "The choice can't be any more clear, we can't afford four more years of stagnant job creation." We'd have more job creation if Romney and Ryan's party weren't opposing job creation bills left and right morons.

108 jaunte  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:46:16pm

Preserve this moment for CNN management.

109 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:47:12pm

re: #108 jaunte

Preserve this moment for CNN management.

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I don't know Eric, can we hear you with your head up your asshole? Really these attacks on Warren are so fucking pathetic. Way to be total douches right wing again.

110 freetoken  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:53:52pm

re: #108 jaunte

The reality is people like Philip Kent, who runs TBS division of Time Warner, doesn't care. All he cares about is getting a bigger audience for CNN, and the way to do that in this day an age is to be more controversial.

The twitterverse can do all it wants to raise stinks, but notice that the people who really run the show, like Kent, don't do their own Twitter accounts.

111 Targetpractice  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:53:57pm

This and the last election are gonna get a special place in the history books next to the fears about JFK being a Roman Catholic, the question of whether Clinton inhaled or not, and Gore talking about "inventing the Internet."

112 freetoken  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:54:54pm

The board of Time Warner doesn't give one whit about what Eric son of Erick says or does.

They only care about the numbers at the end of the quarter.

113 jaunte  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:56:08pm

"Can we hear your money accent now?"

114 freetoken  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:56:51pm

Here's Time Warner's official twitter account:

[Link: twitter.com...]

Try and see if you get any response from them.

115 jaunte  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:58:21pm

re: #114 freetoken

Pretty sure it's an intern or first year hire in charge of 'social media' that's on the other end of that.

116 freetoken  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:59:28pm

re: #115 jaunte

In the mean time, the actual board members sit in clubs and mansions listening to packaged presentations by the "handlers" for people like Romney.

117 freetoken  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 10:01:09pm

Continuing on with my musical adventures on the internet, another interesting little piece by Villa-Lobos, which I doubt many have heard: "Mandu çarará ballet for mixed choir, children choir and orchestra" (W417) :

118 simoom  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 10:01:32pm

An old NYT article on Romney's Campaign Manager & Drudge-whisperer, Matt Rhoades:

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

The early advantage on their side, in the view of several Republicans, seems to have gone to Mitt Romney, who hired the former Bush political aide who had been the central party’s prime point of contact with Mr. Drudge, Matthew Rhoades. His status was solidified after the 2004 election at a steakhouse dinner in Miami with Mr. Drudge, who for all his renown in politics is a somewhat spectral presence who rarely agrees to meet with political operatives or journalists and who did not respond to requests for an interview for this article.

So important was the Romney camp’s perceived advantage in the eyes of aides to Senator John McCain, Republican of Arizona, that at one point this year they even considered sending an emissary to Miami to build their own relationship with him, two former McCain campaign officials said. (Mr. Drudge ignored the invitation, one of the officials said.)

...

Before Mr. Griffin left politics to work as a military lawyer in 2005, he had a dinner with Mr. Drudge and Mr. Rhoades to solidify Mr. Rhoades’s new place as the main Drudge Report contact for the central party. That dinner was first reported in the book “The Way to Win,” by Mark Halperin and John F. Harris, published last year.

As the Bush political team dispersed among the Republican candidates this year, some of Mr. Rhoades’s former colleagues came to regret his special relationship with Mr. Drudge. Former aides to Mr. McCain said in interviews that they had cursed Mr. Rhoades’s name daily this year as Mr. Drudge ran a series of photographs making Mr. McCain look old and other items, like one wrongly raising the possibility that a bump he took to the head in Iraq was cancer.

119 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 10:04:43pm

re: #118 simoom

An old NYT article on Romney's Campaign Manager & Drudge-whisperer, Matt Rhoades:

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

Sounds like another sleazeball.

120 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 10:10:14pm

Hi, all. How goes the evening?

121 Kragar  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 10:11:17pm

re: #120 Dark_Falcon

Hi, all. How goes the evening?

Enjoying my new book several days before I expected to.

122 darthstar  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 10:11:18pm

re: #120 Dark_Falcon

Hi, all. How goes the evening?

I can neither confirm nor deny that.

//sorry...practicing my Romney responses for the debate/pre-trial hearing.

123 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 10:11:44pm

re: #121 Kragar

Enjoying my new book several days before I expected to.

Very cool.

124 darthstar  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 10:12:31pm

re: #120 Dark_Falcon

Did you get a call back on that interview?

125 Lidane  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 10:15:08pm
126 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 10:17:07pm

re: #124 darthstar

Did you get a call back on that interview?

I actually got an offer. The pay is good, but I'm not sure I can do the work well, given my narcolepsy problem (it turned out to be a call center job). So I'm talking things over with some people to see if this job is one I should take.

127 darthstar  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 10:17:37pm


No, they just wanted to see if it would score them any points. Bill Ayers video will come out the day before debate #2...accidentally...and with the same disclaimer.

Desperate loser motherfuckers.

128 darthstar  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 10:21:57pm

re: #126 Dark_Falcon

I actually got an offer. The pay is good, but I'm not sure I can do the work well, given my narcolepsy problem (it turned out to be a call center job). So I'm talking things over with some people to see if this job is one I should take.

That's great news. As far as the narcolepsy goes, you could always take up methamphetamine. You only have to worry about blowing a hole in your aorta the first few times you do it...then you figure out how much your body can handle...for a while.

Seriously, if the hours suck, it's not the job for you. Call center sounds kind of entry-level anyway. You've been in the working world for a good decade now. Apply UP...don't go for lateral positions. Or sell yourself as a "senior" level sales-critter. Get team lead for two or three years, then move into a management role...that's where you'll be happiest.

And don't start taking meth. Sure, you'll be good for four or five days, but then you'll fall asleep in the middle of the freeway, and trust me, that's not good.

129 darthstar  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 10:25:15pm

And Romney thinks we should engage them militarily? That would only help them.

130 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 10:26:38pm

re: #128 darthstar

That's great news. As far as the narcolepsy goes, you could always take up methamphetamine. You only have to worry about blowing a hole in your aorta the first few times you do it...then you figure out how much your body can handle...for a while.

Seriously, if the hours suck, it's not the job for you. Call center sounds kind of entry-level anyway. You've been in the working world for a good decade now. Apply UP...don't go for lateral positions. Or sell yourself as a "senior" level sales-critter. Get team lead for two or three years, then move into a management role...that's where you'll be happiest.

And don't start taking meth. Sure, you'll be good for four or five days, but then you'll fall asleep in the middle of the freeway, and trust me, that's not good.

The middle part is good advice. The starting and ending paragraphs should be used as part of a DirecTV ad in the "Don't reenact war movies with Charlie Sheen vein." They're that good.

131 darthstar  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 10:28:03pm

Tonight's sunset from my phone. It was an okay day here on the coast.


Image: 310199_10151202035833024_1812956672_n.jpg

132 Lidane  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 10:29:47pm
133 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 10:31:16pm

Ann Coulter: ugly from the inside to the outside.

134 darthstar  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 10:32:00pm

re: #130 Dark_Falcon

The middle part is good advice. The starting and ending paragraphs should be used as part of a DirecTV ad in the "Don't reenact war movies with Charlie Sheen vein." They're that good.

Hey, I speak from experience. And as far as the job search goes, I'm not saying you won't suck at whatever you do (that's entirely for you to decide). I'm just (again, speaking from experience) trying to give you the best advice I can so you can suck (or not suck) at the best possible jobs you can get. You were a sales person before, now you're selling a product you have to believe in more than anything else...yourself. And no, you won't suck. that's just me fucking with you (as is my nature).

135 darthstar  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 10:33:08pm

Okay...dodgers two outs away from missing a wild card slot. Going to enjoy the moment. Good night everyone.

136 Kragar  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 10:42:01pm

I do believe I just saw a clip of the absolute craziest adult entertainment I have ever laid eyes on. The man was wearing a chicken suit and clucking the whole time.

I really don't know what to make of it.

137 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 10:42:49pm

re: #133 Reverend Mother Ramallo

Ann Coulter: ugly from the inside to the outside.

Beauty may only be skin-deep, but ugly goes all the way down to the bone.

138 Lidane  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 10:43:07pm

re: #136 Kragar

So which came first, the chicken or the chick?

139 Targetpractice  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 10:45:47pm

re: #138 Lidane

So which came first, the chicken or the chick?

140 Kragar  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 10:46:44pm

re: #138 Lidane

So which came first, the chicken or the chick?

I didn't watch it for that long. More of a "What in the... (15 seconds later)... Okay, I think that is quite enough of that."

141 Targetpractice  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 10:47:44pm

re: #140 Kragar

I didn't watch it for that long. More of a "What in the... (15 seconds later)... Okay, I think that is quite enough of that."

More or less weird than tentacle porn?

142 Lidane  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 10:47:57pm

re: #139 Targetpractice

Yes, it's a bad joke. But inevitable. Haha.

143 Kragar  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 10:48:09pm

re: #141 Targetpractice

More or less weird than tentacle porn?

Much, much weirder.

144 Lidane  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 10:49:24pm

re: #143 Kragar

Much, much funnier.

FTFY. I think if I saw something like that, I'd be too busy laughing to be creeped out by it.

145 Targetpractice  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 10:50:18pm

re: #143 Kragar

Much, much weirder.

More or less weird than tentacle porn starring Cthulhu?

146 Kragar  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 10:51:26pm

re: #144 Lidane

FTFY. I think if I saw something like that, I'd be too busy laughing to be creeped out by it.

Oh, there was laugher.

The video apparently was part of a whole DVD full of the same thing with different girls.

It was called "Choke my chicken."

I shit you not.

147 Kragar  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 10:52:01pm

re: #145 Targetpractice

More or less weird than tentacle porn starring Cthulhu?

All tentacle porn stars Cthulhu.

148 simoom  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 10:52:39pm


Here's CNN's coverage of the speech from back in 2007:
[Link: politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...]

149 Mattand  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 10:52:39pm

re: #136 Kragar

I do believe I just saw a clip of the absolute craziest adult entertainment I have ever laid eyes on. The man was wearing a chicken suit and clucking the whole time.

I really don't know what to make of it.

You sure it wasn't that Submissive Chicken viral ad that Burger King did a few years back?

150 Targetpractice  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 10:53:43pm

re: #146 Kragar

Oh, there was laugher.

The video apparently was part of a whole DVD full of the same thing with different girls.

It was called "Choke my chicken."

I shit you not.

Haha! Multiple entendre!

/

151 Mattand  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 10:54:38pm

re: #146 Kragar

Oh, there was laugher.

The video apparently was part of a whole DVD full of the same thing with different girls.

It was called "Choke my chicken."

I shit you not.

Here's a clip:

152 Lidane  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 10:57:06pm

re: #146 Kragar

Oh, there was laugher.

The video apparently was part of a whole DVD full of the same thing with different girls.

It was called "Choke my chicken."

I shit you not.

That sounds like something Troma would come up with, but without the mindless violence. Heh.

153 Targetpractice  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 11:03:14pm

Huh, just read that The Pirate Bay's been down since Monday. The owners are claiming power outage, while the media's claiming a government raid on their servers.

154 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 11:03:44pm

re: #148 simoom

[Embedded content]


Here's CNN's coverage of the speech from back in 2007:
[Link: politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...]

Exclusively obtained? Is that what going to YouTube is called now? I just wish they'd reveal that this is just one stupid joke but they won't because this is real to them.

155 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 11:04:18pm

re: #153 Targetpractice

Huh, just read that The Pirate Bay's been down since Monday. The owners are claiming power outage, while the media's claiming a government raid on their servers.

I was wondering about that. Government raid wouldn't shock me.

156 Targetpractice  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 11:05:34pm

re: #155 HappyWarrior

I was wondering about that. Government raid wouldn't shock me.

Apparently their servers host, along with TPB, the infamous Wikileaks amongst other controversial sites. Somehow, a power outage that keeps them down for two days seems a little far-fetched.

157 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 11:06:14pm

re: #150 Targetpractice

Haha! Multiple entendre!

/

Hee hee hee hee... SMACK!

158 Lidane  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 11:06:41pm

re: #153 Targetpractice

Huh, just read that The Pirate Bay's been down since Monday. The owners are claiming power outage, while the media's claiming a government raid on their servers.

A government raid would certainly explain the power outage.

Wouldn't shock me at all.

159 freetoken  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 11:11:53pm

re: #153 Targetpractice

Yeah.

But in the end it won't matter. There are a zillion different torrent indexers, and anyone can create a torrent, post it somewhere, and Google will find it, and you're off and running.

160 Targetpractice  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 11:15:03pm

re: #159 freetoken

Yeah.

But in the end it won't matter. There are a zillion different torrent indexers, and anyone can create a torrent, post it somewhere, and Google will find it, and you're off and running.

Yep. If the TPB is truly gone, somebody else will simply rise to the top of the heap. So long as there are pirates, there will be a pirate ship in one form or another.

161 freetoken  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 11:19:31pm

re: #160 Targetpractice

And the heap is big.

And, most western language speaking people aren't aware of this, but the biggest increase in websites and other online activities has been in the world of chinese character set, and for the most part the anti-piracy crusaders aren't even in the loop on those.

And lastly, like I mentioned, all one has to do is make a torrent and post it on some forum somewhere... and if you seed it just a little bit it will then have a life of its own.

162 Targetpractice  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 11:24:12pm

re: #161 freetoken

And the heap is big.

And, most western language speaking people aren't aware of this, but the biggest increase in websites and other online activities has been in the world of chinese character set, and for the most part the anti-piracy crusaders aren't even in the loop on those.

And lastly, like I mentioned, all one has to do is make a torrent and post it on some forum somewhere... and if you seed it just a little bit it will then have a life of its own.

Ayep. The tools are there, it's just a matter of utilizing them. So long as its decentralized, you'll never put a sure end to it. You may rip up a good portion of it, but so long as something survives, it'll start up again.

163 freetoken  Tue, Oct 2, 2012 11:58:30pm
164 engineer cat  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 12:04:19am

latest romney plan to win the election

a bucket of free money! $17 thousand dollars worth!

"you can fill the bucket!"

165 Kragar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 12:11:40am

re: #164 engineer cat

latest romney plan to win the election

a bucket of free money! $17 thousand dollars worth!

"you can fill the bucket!"

I'm expecting that any day now, Reince Priebus will walk out on stage with a pistol, a puppy, and an ultimatum. "Vote for Mitt or the puppy gets it. This is on you."

166 sagehen  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 12:36:51am

another devastating ad, currently playing in Ohio...


167 freetoken  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 1:02:29am

I do most of my financial stuff online... and so I go to pay a Citibank credit card and discover that Citi is now using pop-up windows on their payment page, and furthermore requires saving cookies and running a plug-in to see details the payment page!

Who in their right mind could think this was an improvement, in either security or usability?

Business in America has for years now has suffered from symptoms of executives of (big) corporations being immune to their own products - they don't have to use them so have no clue at how bad they can be sometimes.

I bet the senior execs at Citibank never worry about having to block pop-ups or cookies - they have underlings who do all that for them.

168 researchok  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 1:04:21am

Morning, all

169 freetoken  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 1:07:07am
170 researchok  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 1:09:33am

re: #163 freetoken

Bueno!

171 Kragar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 1:22:08am

Department of Unforced Errors

It must be annoying to have a campaign ‘tracker’ following and videotaping your every move. Then again, you don’t have to run for Senate. But word to the wise. Don’t shove a tracker and then lie about it by saying he shoved you first when the guy’s friggin’ videotaping the whole thing and there’s a reporter there watching too.

Stay classy, GOP

172 freetoken  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 1:25:13am

For those not familiar with this, Naxos allows one to listen online (for $20/yr) to their rather large library of recordings. It's quite a deal if you buy lots of classical music.

173 researchok  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 1:27:26am

re: #172 freetoken

Thanks for that heads up.

174 RadicalModerate  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 2:25:19am

7-Eleven has started their "7-Election" informal presidential poll.

[Link: eatocracy.cnn.com...]

The 7-Eleven chain of stores is running a fourth "7-Election" campaign to predict the winner of the 2012 presidential election. While the method - having customers select either a red Romney or blue Obama cup for their coffee - is decidedly unscientific, the results in previous installments have closely mirrored those of the last two elections, and accurately predicted the winner in all three.

It should be noted that their sales data has been extremely accurate regarding how the election turns out - the percentage-point differentials between their coffee cup sales to the actual election numbers has matched almost exactly.

Current sales totals - broken down by state, as well as individual cities is here - and it's not a pretty picture at all for the Romney campaign:

[Link: www.7-eleven.com...]

175 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 2:45:21am

Morning Honcos.

176 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 3:03:29am

Larry Spurling Of Nebraska Allegedly Attacks Wife With Sandwich, Gets Jail Time
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

When will these senseless culinary attacks end?
/

177 Obdicut  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 3:09:40am

This song is promoted on Youtube, but I'm sharing it anyway because it's cute tight inspiring wonderfluff.

178 sagehen  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 3:16:27am

re: #174 RadicalModerate

7-Eleven has started their "7-Election" informal presidential poll.

[Link: eatocracy.cnn.com...]

It should be noted that their sales data has been extremely accurate regarding how the election turns out - the percentage-point differentials between their coffee cup sales to the actual election numbers has matched almost exactly.

Current sales totals - broken down by state, as well as individual cities is here - and it's not a pretty picture at all for the Romney campaign:

[Link: www.7-eleven.com...]

Other surprisingly accurate predictors:

Halloween masks of which candidate's face sell better
Which candidate's hometown baseball team goes further in the playoffs
If the Redskins win the last home game before the election, the in party stays in.

179 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 3:30:02am

Lake County considers 'trash-cams' at school cafeterias
TAVARES, Fla. -Lake County School Board officials are considering attaching cameras to school cafeteria trash cans to study what students are tossing after officials found that most of the vegetables on the school menu end up in the trash can.
[Link: www.clickorlando.com...]

180 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 3:36:35am

Woman who rode manatee at Fort De Soto turns herself in
Under the Florida Manatee Sanctuary Act, sea cow molestation constitutes a second-degree misdemeanor, an offense punishable by a $500 fine or a term of up to 60 days in the county jail.

Authorities do not believe the manatee was physically hurt. The psychological impact of the incident is harder to assess.
[Link: www.tampabay.com...]

181 sagehen  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 3:37:46am

What's the drinking came codewords for tonight?

182 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 3:39:55am

re: #181 sagehen

What's the drinking came codewords for tonight?

Law Hawk posted a bunch the other day. Here's a link with a few.
[Link: www.ibtimes.com...]

183 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 3:43:31am

re: #180 Cannadian Club Akbar

Woman who rode manatee at Fort De Soto turns herself in
Under the Florida Manatee Sanctuary Act, sea cow molestation constitutes a second-degree misdemeanor, an offense punishable by a $500 fine or a term of up to 60 days in the county jail.

Authorities do not believe the manatee was physically hurt. The psychological impact of the incident is harder to assess.
[Link: www.tampabay.com...]

How the hell do you ride a manatee? I've blundered into them at Crystal (not) River, snorkelling in the vegetation-tea. Top speed is what, about 0.4 MPH?

184 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 3:44:39am

re: #183 Decatur Deb

How the hell do you ride a manatee? I've blundered into them at Crystal (not) River, snorkelling in the vegetation-tea. Top speed is what, about 0.4 MPH?

She was just riding it. She wasn't trying to ski.
/

185 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 3:44:59am

re: #184 Cannadian Club Akbar

fixed

186 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 3:47:30am

re: #184 Cannadian Club Akbar

She was just riding it. She wasn't trying to ski.
/

Looks like she was trying to hump it. 'Riding' would be like riding a Barcalounger.

187 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 3:49:30am

re: #182 Cannadian Club Akbar

Law Hawk posted a bunch the other day. Here's a link with a few.
[Link: www.ibtimes.com...]

[Link: www.theboozebox.com...]
I want the shirt at the top right. Heh.

188 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 3:52:06am

re: #186 Decatur Deb

Looks like she was trying to hump it. 'Riding' would be like riding a Barcalounger.

I worked at a place that had boat slips and a manatee found its way there.The tourist seemed to have a good time.

189 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 3:56:35am

re: #188 Cannadian Club Akbar

I worked at a place that had boat slips and a manatee found its way there.The tourist seemed to have a good time.

I think the boat props are the real threat. It was weird to see the young manatee in the Disney tank, because it didn't have any scars. The kids each had an 'adopted' manatee, I remember Brutus.

190 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 4:01:30am

re: #189 Decatur Deb

I think the boat props are the real threat. It was weird to see the young manatee in the Disney tank, because it didn't have any scars. The kids each had an 'adopted' manatee, I remember Brutus.

I was boating on the Peace River once and saw one that was dead after being hit by a prop. Not sure where in the river it was hit but the entire river is pretty much a no wake zone. Although it was connected to Charlotte Harbor.

191 Shropshire_Slasher  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 4:04:07am

Drinking games are for kids, and GET OFF MY LAWN!

192 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 4:05:18am

Snooty Cam!! From 8-5.
[Link: www.southfloridamuseum.org...]

193 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 4:06:46am

re: #192 Cannadian Club Akbar

Snooty Cam!! From 8-5.
[Link: www.southfloridamuseum.org...]

Cool. Thnx.

194 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 4:08:00am

re: #193 Decatur Deb

Cool. Thnx.

This is downtown, right next to the lieberry I used to post from once a week.

195 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 4:12:59am
196 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 4:13:32am

re: #194 Cannadian Club Akbar

This is downtown, right next to the lieberry I used to post from once a week.

Ah, Bradenton. We'll be in the area this week, registering (I think) at USF.

197 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 4:14:40am

re: #196 Decatur Deb

Ah, Bradenton. We'll be in the area this week, registering (I think) at USF.

USF in Tampa or Sarasota? Or Venice for that matter.

198 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 4:16:26am

Oh hai Lizards. I just survived a weekend with three of my sons. Two are Obama supporters and the other one is a wingnut. They had at each other for two whole days. Sometimes they would just change sides suddenly so they wouldn't get bored repeating the same talking points. Then they opened a case of beer, ordered pizza and sat back to watch the baseball game.

199 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 4:17:51am

re: #106 Targetpractice

I've noticed that, which is why I am not sharing my memories of Coulter from the '80s in Ann Arbor.

200 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 4:18:39am

re: #197 Cannadian Club Akbar

USF in Tampa or Sarasota? Or Venice for that matter.

S. of 75 going into Tampa. (That's if the locals send us there.) It's the kind of environment we did well in up at Gainesville.

201 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 4:19:15am

re: #197 Cannadian Club Akbar

USF in Tampa or Sarasota? Or Venice for that matter.

Minus Venice. Was thinking of MCC.

202 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 4:19:55am

re: #200 Decatur Deb

S. of 75 going into Tampa. (That's if the locals send us there.) It's the kind of environment we did well in up at Gainesville.

You'll be going West on either Fowler or Fletcher.

203 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 4:21:43am

re: #202 Cannadian Club Akbar

You'll be going West on either Fowler or Fletcher.

We'll be going wherever the nice GPS lady sends us. Sending an email right now asking again for USF.

204 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 4:29:03am

Effing BSOD. I need a new computer.

205 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 4:38:36am

Florida Supreme Court considers: Can immigrant illegally in U.S. practice law?
TALLAHASSEE — In a unique case followed closely by immigration experts, the Florida Supreme Court will consider whether an undocumented immigrant can practice law in Florida.

Jose Godinez-Samperio, 26, of Tampa is the undocumented child of immigrants and a "dreamer," in the jargon of the DREAM Act. His story puts a vivid human face on the ambiguity of U.S. immigration policy.

He is ready to be a lawyer except for one thing: He's not a U.S. citizen.

He has a law degree but no Social Security number.
[Link: www.tampabay.com...]

206 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 4:41:39am

re: #204 Cannadian Club Akbar

Effing BSOD. I need a new computer.

A Linux missionary will arrive at your door in a minute. He's the one dressed as a penguin.

207 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 4:45:14am

re: #206 Decatur Deb

A Linux missionary will arrive at your door in a minute. He's the one dressed as a penguin.

I used to have Jehovah's come to my house. I was always nice to them. Then they asked if I'd like to host a meeting at my house to help spread the word. Sorry.

208 Stephen T.  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 4:46:21am

re: #2 goddamnedfrank

...giving abortions to women who are not actually pregnant...

I've asked my derp translator to explain this to me. (I have relatives who are still drinking the Republican Kool-aid). There is a paranoid belief that if a woman goes to Planned Parenthood with a pregnancy scare, but she is not actually pregnant, that the doctors at Planned Parenthood will purposely render the woman sterile and call it "an abortion." It's all part of their secret agenda of eugenics and destroying the family, you see.

I'm not sure which is worse, thinking that you can perform an abortion on a woman that is not pregnant or thinking that you can render a woman sterile in a procedure that mimics an abortion.

209 sagehen  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 5:00:21am

"abortions to women who are not actually pregnant"...

When a woman has a miscarriage, she probably needs a D&C for her aftercare, which procedure is exactly the same as the procedure for a 1st trimester abortion.

Some abortions (but not all of them) are D&C's; some D&C's (but not all of them) are abortions.

Todd Akin Most men find this confusing.

210 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 5:04:42am

re: #207 Cannadian Club Akbar

I used to have Jehovah's come to my house. I was always nice to them. Then they asked if I'd like to host a meeting at my house to help spread the word. Sorry.

When we were stationed in Italy a couple used to come a lot--mostly they just wanted a drink of water, a friendly toilet, and a chance to practice English. Their missionaries had a hard row to hoe in such a Catholic/non-religious country.

211 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 5:10:20am

Dog walk. BBL

212 RadicalModerate  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 5:18:14am

Holy crap.

I just got an Adsense ad on this page from the Leadership Institute, and this one looks like it came straight out of Stormfront.
Given that they are catering to folks like the YWC now, they are blowing that dogwhistle as hard as they can.

Adsense- Leadership Institute

Adsense link goes here:

[Link: www.campusreformaction.org...]

213 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 5:22:49am

re: #212 RadicalModerate

Holy crap.

I just got an Adsense ad on this page from the Leadership Institute, and this one looks like it came straight out of Stormfront.
Given that they are catering to folks like the YWC now, they are blowing that dogwhistle as hard as they can.

Adsense- Leadership Institute

Adsense link goes here:

[Link: www.campusreformaction.org...]

Get a subscription to LGF.

If you don't want to do that, use Firefox or Chrome with Ad Block Plus.

214 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 5:23:54am

re: #212 RadicalModerate

There is a case in front of the SC to stop using race as a factor to get admitted.
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

215 RadicalModerate  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 5:31:37am

re: #214 Cannadian Club Akbar

There is a case in front of the SC to stop using race as a factor to get admitted.
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

Yeah, I've been following that one - there's a significant number of people on the right who are hoping that this case will overturn the 1964 Civil Rights Act, of which Affirmative Action is an intrinsic part. (see Texas, Republican Party Platform, 2012)

216 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 5:32:41am

re: #212 RadicalModerate

Holy crap.

I just got an Adsense ad on this page from the Leadership Institute, and this one looks like it came straight out of Stormfront.
Given that they are catering to folks like the YWC now, they are blowing that dogwhistle as hard as they can.

Adsense- Leadership Institute

Adsense link goes here:

[Link: www.campusreformaction.org...]

Leadership Institute is one of the important nexuses of the cynical hard right. Breitbart and O'Keefe have a history there. I'ts much like a grad school for the worst of the College Rupblican National Committee assholes.

217 sagehen  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 5:34:04am

re: #215 RadicalModerate

Yeah, I've been following that one - there's a significant number of people on the right who are hoping that this case will overturn the 1964 Civil Rights Act, of which Affirmative Action is an intrinsic part. (see Texas, Republican Party Platform, 2012)

Affirmative Action has nothing to do with the 1964 Civil Rights Act; AA was passed during the Nixon administration.

218 RadicalModerate  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 5:36:20am

re: #216 Decatur Deb

Leadership Institute is one of the important nexuses of the cynical hard right. Breitbart and O'Keefe have a history there. I'ts much like a grad school for the worst of the College Rupblican National Committee assholes.

Like I mentioned before, their associations have gone beyond simple Republican vs Democratic politics.

Here's a recent SPLC article documenting their ties to the racist "Youth for Western Civilization" college group:

[Link: www.splcenter.org...]

219 Sionainn  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 5:42:03am

re: #208 Stephen T.

Well, they could if they did an endometrial ablation, basically burning the lining of the uterus. That would be pretty obvious, though, when a woman's periods stopped.

220 makeitstop  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 5:44:21am

Morning, Lizards,

Man, that video sure worked on some people. I see people openly calling Obama a racist on Facebook and in high dudgeon over O's 'shout-out' to Rev. Wright.

I'm enjoying asking them if they don't feel just a little bit manipulated, freaking out over something that they already freaked out over four years ago. Absolutely Pavlovian, it is.

Han11ty must be having a really good laugh this morning, knowing that he pushed a bullshit story and got a percentage of the American populace to froth on cue.

221 RadicalModerate  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 5:44:27am

re: #217 sagehen

Affirmative Action has nothing to do with the 1964 Civil Rights Act; AA was passed during the Nixon administration.

Nope. AA got its start in the Kennedy Administration, via several Executive Orders, then was codified by Title VII of the Civil Rights Act. What the Nixon Administration did (via a revision to the Philadelphia Plan) was set it up as a mandate for groups doing business with the federal government.

222 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 5:51:15am

re: #218 RadicalModerate

Like I mentioned before, their associations have gone beyond simple Republican vs Democratic politics.

Here's a recent SPLC article documenting their ties to the racist "Youth for Western Civilization" college group:

[Link: www.splcenter.org...]

Yup. CRNC is actually beyond Dem/GOP. They have a strong preppy-punk racist history--the Compton Cookouts and such. Ashley Todd, the Pittsburgh 'B' girl, was one of their field workers. Lots of libertarian in the CRNC.

223 Lidane  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 6:01:18am
224 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 6:01:31am
225 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 6:14:01am

Good morning lizards!

226 Lidane  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 6:16:30am

‘Birth Control Is Turning the Men Gay!’ 14 Lessons from the Most Bizarre Anti-Contraception Video Ever

In the run-up to an election, it's not uncommon for special interest groups to release ads pushing a specific agenda in the hopes of swaying voters as they head to the polls. But only once in a generation does a social awareness ad reach the heights of hyperbole-murdering crazy reached by this anti-contraception spot, released by a group of nuns in Ohio who hope to convince fellow Catholics that "contracepting" is responsible for all manner of social ills, from homosexuality to beastiality to straight up murder. What other lessons can we learn from the awesomely insane YOU DESERVE TO KNOW THE TRUTH: CONTRACEPTION? Let's take a journey through the 14 most important "facts."

227 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 6:18:19am
228 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 6:18:31am

re: #127 darthstar

No, they just wanted to see if it would score them any points. Bill Ayers video will come out the day before debate #2...accidentally...and with the same disclaimer.

Desperate loser motherfuckers.

This flip comes pre-flopped.

229 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 6:22:38am

re: #176 Cannadian Club Akbar

Larry Spurling Of Nebraska Allegedly Attacks Wife With Sandwich, Gets Jail Time
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

When will these senseless culinary attacks end?
/

James Cagney makes grapefruit assault famous and these copycats simply can't get it right that you have to use Florida citrus in order to support America.

Now attacking someone in England with fresh fruit is right out. They have training classes for how to deal with that!
;)

230 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 6:25:38am

re: #183 Decatur Deb

How the hell do you ride a manatee? I've blundered into them at Crystal (not) River, snorkelling in the vegetation-tea. Top speed is what, about 0.4 MPH?

Vegetation-tea pretty much describes it. I was in the Peace River (inland) just over a year ago and the water was basically the color of tea with little to no visibility to see how deep the water was or what the bottom consisted of there.

231 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 6:31:34am

re: #230 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Vegetation-tea pretty much describes it. I was in the Peace River (inland) just over a year ago and the water was basically the color of tea with little to no visibility to see how deep the water was or what the bottom consisted of there.

Used to boat and canoe there. More canoeing than boating. Ray's Canoe.

232 Gus  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 6:35:41am
233 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 6:43:16am
234 Gus  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 6:44:13am

Debate Checklist

[ ] Booze
[ ] Popcorn
[ ] Drinking Game Words
[ ] Snacks
[ ] Fresh Bong Water

235 Lidane  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 6:45:42am

re: #232 Gus

So Romney HQ wants voters to see a good, thoughtful speech from Barack Obama right before the election?

236 Gus  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 6:47:18am

re: #235 Lidane

So Romney HQ wants voters to see a good, thoughtful speech from Barack Obama right before the election?

Same weak response like they did/do with the birther stuff.

237 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 6:47:47am

re: #234 Gus

Debate Checklist

[ ] Booze
[ ] Popcorn
[ ] Drinking Game Words
[ ] Snacks
[ ] Fresh Bong Water

Debate Checklist

[ ] Google directions to Gus' house.
/

238 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 6:48:47am

re: #233 NJDhockeyfan

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It'll need to be a drone strike most likely, but its something we'll need to do. The Libyans ran Ansar al-Shariah out of Benghazi, but actually fighting them will be much harder and not a job I'd task to militia. But we need to nail those bastards, and if that means we get some backlash then that's what happens.

239 Gus  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 6:50:50am

re: #237 Cannadian Club Akbar

Debate Checklist

[ ] Google directions to Gus' house.
/

It's going to be a zoo around DU. They're also going to close down parts of I-25.

240 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 6:52:33am

re: #239 Gus

It's going to be a zoo around DU. They're also going to close down parts of I-25.

That's right. Tonight's is in Denver. My radio said this morning the 3rd debate will be going up against MNF. Can't wait for those ratings.
/

241 Gus  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 6:53:17am

re: #240 Cannadian Club Akbar

That's right. Tonight's is in Denver. My radio said this morning the 3rd debate will be going up against MNF. Can't wait for those ratings.
/

Wonk night.

242 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 6:53:26am

re: #231 Cannadian Club Akbar

Used to boat and canoe there. More canoeing than boating. Ray's Canoe.

Saw a bunch of canoeists that morning. We were in a shallow spot with shovels and a sieve collecting fossil shark teeth and such from the bottom gravel.

243 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 6:54:05am

re: #233 NJDhockeyfan

Not very covert when it is announced in advance on Twitter...

244 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 6:54:59am

re: #242 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Saw a bunch of canoeists that morning. We were in a shallow spot with shovels and a sieve collecting fossil shark teeth and such from the bottom gravel.

Tons of shark teeth in Venice. We were doing a housing development about 5 miles from the beach and one foreman got a tooth that was 4" long.

245 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 6:56:13am

re: #240 Cannadian Club Akbar

That's right. Tonight's is in Denver. My radio said this morning the 3rd debate will be going up against MNF. Can't wait for those ratings.
/

I'd rather listen to Romney than Gruden & Co. Talk about repetitive talking points, trying to hammer a misfitting chosen narrative into events that it doesn't match, and annoying presentation techniques.
//

246 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 7:01:06am

re: #244 Cannadian Club Akbar

Tons of shark teeth in Venice. We were doing a housing development about 5 miles from the beach and one foreman got a tooth that was 4" long.

That's a real good one. There's a well-known beach in Venice where they wash up since the same strata we were scraping in the Peace River is being eroded out by the sea right there. And they find the larger teeth in such in the quarries around there as well.

(We were staying in Venice specifically to go walk that beach a few times. Besides fossil shark teeth we also found a few "current" ones. I still have a box with some teeth and scallop shells sitting somewhere in the apartment.)

Also had a really, really, good lunch that day at a crab shack down near Port Charlotte. Group having lunch next to us included Sam Shields father (or the business partner of his father, I forget which.) It was right after the Super Bowl and the man had a Shields jersey on.

247 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 7:03:11am

re: #246 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

I spent 3 1/2 years in Port Charlotte. Did you get to go to Boca Grande?

248 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 7:03:27am

re: #245 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

I'd rather listen to Romney than Gruden & Co. Talk about repetitive talking points, trying to hammer a misfitting chosen narrative into events that it doesn't match, and annoying presentation techniques.
//

If you can get the debate on the radio, try having the game on TV with the volume muted, and the debate on the radio.

249 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 7:04:26am

re: #246 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

AND Tyrone Williams went to my high skool. He was the Grand Marshall in the Rubonia Marti Gras.

250 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 7:05:09am

re: #248 Dark_Falcon

If you can get the debate on the radio, try having the game on TV with the volume muted, and the debate on the radio.

You can stream the debate with iHeartradio.

251 Mr. Crankypants  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 7:05:42am

Morning everybody...still waiting to go back to work. IT at the place I'm going to is taking their time about setting up system access.

252 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 7:08:11am

re: #247 Cannadian Club Akbar

I spent 3 1/2 years in Port Charlotte. Did you get to go to Boca Grande?

I don't think so. We were only down there for 2-3 days in late February. Stayed in a hotel in Venice, and the day trips were the Peace River - down through Port Charlotte thing, a day up around Sarasota including the aquarium there (with Hugh the Manatee), and some time at the beaches in Venice. The rest was getting to and from Tampa. Limited time and my brother was handling the itinerary.

253 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 7:09:34am

I should note that the game that conflicts with the 3rd debate is Lions vs. Bears at Soldier Field. Mitt's from Michigan, Obama adopted Chicago, maybe they should just replace the debate with having Romney and Obama take over announcing duties for the football game.

/kidding about that last, but it would be funny and it would get me to listen to them. Because I seriously will be watching the game rather than the debate.

254 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 7:10:53am
255 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 7:11:08am

re: #252 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

I don't think so. We were only down there for 2-3 days in late February. Stayed in a hotel in Venice, and the day trips were the Peace River - down through Port Charlotte thing, a day up around Sarasota including the aquarium there (with Hugh the Manatee), and some time at the beaches in Venice. The rest was getting to and from Tampa. Limited time and my brother was handling the itinerary.

Do you mean Mote Marine?

256 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 7:13:53am
258 Lidane  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 7:17:23am
259 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 7:19:57am

re: #257 NJDhockeyfan

The TSA Wouldn’t Let This Woman Bring Vodka Through Security So She Chugged It In Their Faces

If the TSA is about to feel you up, being drunk prolly makes it better.
/

260 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 7:20:52am

re: #256 Sheila Broflovski

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So what about Romney's dog? What was he supposed to do, lose time while trying to upend everyone's arrangements over a dog? Geeze.

261 Gus  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 7:23:39am

re: #260 Dark_Falcon

So what about Romney's dog? What was he supposed to do, lose time while trying to upend everyone's arrangements over a dog? Geeze.

[Link: www.latimes.com...]

262 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 7:24:17am

Report: Cyber attackers disrupt Internet in Iran

DUBAI - Cyber attackers have targeted Iranian infrastructure and communications companies, disrupting the Internet across the country, a state official was quoted as saying on Wednesday.

Iran, the world's No. 5 oil exporter, has tightened cyber security since its uranium enrichment centrifuges were hit in 2010 by the Stuxnet computer worm, which Tehran believes was planted by arch-adversaries Israel or the United States.

"Yesterday we had a heavy attack against the country's infrastructure and communications companies which has forced us to limit the Internet," Mehdi Akhavan Behabadi, secretary of the High Council of Cyberspace, told the Iranian Labour News Agency.

"Presently we have constant cyber attacks in the country. Yesterday an attack with a traffic of several gigabytes hit the Internet infrastructure, which caused an unwanted slowness in the country's Internet," he said.

Heh.

263 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 7:24:23am

re: #257 NJDhockeyfan

The TSA Wouldn’t Let This Woman Bring Vodka Through Security So She Chugged It In Their Faces

Dumb, dumb, dumb. The TSA has had this policy for years. Her fault for forgetting about it.

264 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 7:24:37am

re: #255 Cannadian Club Akbar

Do you mean Mote Marine?

Yes. :)

Thank you for the correction. My niece was disappointed since there weren't any cuttlefish there at the time. (Though a few months later she saw some while in Malaysia - both in the zoo/aquarium in KL, and some in the wild while snorkeling.)

Trying to locate the crab place - it was along US17 north of Port Charlotte. Which probably is not that informative.

265 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 7:26:28am

re: #260 Dark_Falcon

So what about Romney's dog? What was he supposed to do, lose time while trying to upend everyone's arrangements over a dog? Geeze.

Gail Collins.
She has already cited the dog in just shy of three dozen columns. Why would she do that? Collins says such moments can reveal character — in this case, Romney's rigid emphasis on efficiency.
[Link: www.npr.org...]

266 I Am Kreniigh!  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 7:27:38am

re: #183 Decatur Deb

How the hell do you ride a manatee?

Baffling, and yet Honey Boo Boo is proof that it can be done.

/zing!

267 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 7:27:40am

re: #264 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Prolly US 41 if you actually ran through town.

268 danarchy  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 7:28:46am

Here is the reason I don't believe when everyone talks about how Mitt Romney is greedy and all about money and wants to become president so he can lower his own tax rates. If he was really that greedy he never would have left Bain Capital. This is in no way an endorsement of him, I just don't buy that his big motivating factor at this point is more money.

Most expensive political career in history

269 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 7:29:39am
270 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 7:30:00am

re: #261 Gus

[Link: www.latimes.com...]

[Link: www.wzzm13.com...]

271 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 7:31:26am

re: #267 Cannadian Club Akbar

Prolly US 41 if you actually ran through town.

Or on 776.

272 Gus  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 7:31:58am

re: #270 Cannadian Club Akbar

[Link: www.wzzm13.com...]

Damn nice wheelchair.

273 Killgore Trout  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 7:32:04am

re: #262 NJDhockeyfan

Report: Cyber attackers disrupt Internet in Iran

Heh.

some positive signs things are working
Iranian police clash with protesters over currency plunge

"Everyone wants to buy dollars and it's clear there's a bit of a bank run," said a Western diplomat based in Tehran.

"Ahmadinejad's announcement of using police against exchangers and speculators didn't help at all. Now people are even more worried."
...
A shopkeeper who sells household goods there told Reuters that the instability of the rial was preventing merchants from quoting accurate prices.

I imagine the internet outage contributes to that. Nobody's sure what the exchange rate between rials and dollars might be.

275 Killgore Trout  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 7:34:10am

re: #273 Killgore Trout

some positive signs things are working
Iranian police clash with protesters over currency plunge

I imagine the internet outage contributes to that. Nobody's sure what the exchange rate between rials and dollars might be.

From the end of the article...

Websites providing rates for the rial stopped updating on Tuesday, and Dubai money changers said they were not selling the rial because they had lost contact with their Tehran counterparts.

276 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 7:35:09am

re: #267 Cannadian Club Akbar

Prolly US 41 if you actually ran through town.

I don't think we did. Then again we didn't just cut back north on I-75 but instead took the more built up coastal road. My brother was looking for a tidal mud flat in order to get some samples. (Driving around with a geologist is an experience. You stop and look at what others would consider mundane or odd things.) I do wonder what airport security thought when he went through with a bag full of Zip-locks full of mud.

He also remarked after the Malaysia trip that boxes of rock samples confuse US Customs officials.

277 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 7:36:00am

re: #268 danarchy

Here is the reason I don't believe when everyone talks about how Mitt Romney is greedy and all about money and wants to become president so he can lower his own tax rates. If he was really that greedy he never would have left Bain Capital. This is in no way an endorsement of him, I just don't buy that his big motivating factor at this point is more money.

Most expensive political career in history

Money is just an analog for power--now he's going for the mainline drug.

278 A Mom Anon  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 7:37:11am

re: #260 Dark_Falcon

How about put the luggage on top of the car and the dog IN the car? With the family,like normal people do every.single.day. It would NEVER occur to me or anyone I've ever met to do that to any dog,let alone a dog who is a member of my family. I think people have latched onto that because it's freaking horrific Dark,it's not "practical thinking",it's fucking MEAN.

279 Gus  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 7:37:23am
280 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 7:37:49am

re: #277 Decatur Deb

Money is just an analog for power--now he's going for the mainline drug.

Not to mention legacy. Having piles of money makes you a footnote at best since the robber barons of the 19th century get the press in history books for money making and profligate living. So you have to leave your footprint elsewhere and politics is the most obvious place.

281 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 7:39:50am

It is just a matter of time before they begin to stream across the border...

Dozens of Syrians approach Golan border; tourists evacuated

The IDF evacuated tourists from the top of Mount Hermon Wednesday afternoon, after sighting dozens of possibly armed Syrians approaching the border in the Golan Heights.

The IDF said the suspects did not infiltrate the border into Israel. It was not clear whether they were armed.

Last week, mortar shells fired by the Syrian army strayed into Israel, striking northern Israeli farmlands.

The shells landed harmlessly in open fields, but exploded a short time after farmers were in the area.

The mortar shells were "aimed at villages inside Syria and are part of the internal, ongoing conflict in Syria," said the IDF Spokesman's Office following the incident.

The IDF also warned that "fire from Syria leaking into Israel will not be accepted."

It was the second time in as many months that Syrian shells strayed across the border into Israel.

Since al-Qaeda is fighting along side the opposition forces the danger is there for these terrorists to start a conflict with the Israelis along that border.

282 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 7:40:00am

Heh.
[Link: www.snopes.com...]

283 A Mom Anon  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 7:41:45am

re: #280 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

It's also kinda hard for me to think that a business man who says his qualifications as businessman makes him the right guy to be president isn't going to look for opportunities that arise from being in that office,and afterwards. To him,IMO,I think it's just another stepping stone to advance himself.

284 Gus  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 7:42:34am
285 sagehen  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 7:46:07am

re: #265 Cannadian Club Akbar

Gail Collins.
She has already cited the dog in just shy of three dozen columns. Why would she do that? Collins says such moments can reveal character — in this case, Romney's rigid emphasis on efficiency.
[Link: www.npr.org...]

way more three dozen

An Attempt to Compile a Complete List of Every Time Gail Collins Has Mentioned That Mitt Romney Once Drove to Canada with the Family Dog Strapped to the Roof of the Car

(72 as of two weeks ago)

286 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 7:46:35am

re: #283 A Mom Anon

It's also kinda hard for me to think that a business man who says his qualifications as businessman makes him the right guy to be president isn't going to look for opportunities that arise from being in that office,and afterwards. To him,IMO,I think it's just another stepping stone to advance himself.

Oh he will probably. But as pointed out a political run and office holding is not a net positive to the bottom line as compared to staying in the business sector.

As a comparison, is Donald Trump known for being rich and a businessman, or known for dabbling in politics, TV and shooting his mouth off?

287 Sionainn  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 7:47:15am

re: #284 Gus

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LOL. When even Allen West thinks it's nothing, the GOP has a problem.

288 A Mom Anon  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 7:47:24am

re: #284 Gus

It's just so surprising...(rolls eyes) isn't it? That a)this idiotic stunt didn't work and b)that these morons coordinate with each other. Yep,color me shocked. Birds of a feather flock together,and boy did they flock this one up. Dumb Asses. HAHAHAHAHA!

289 Lidane  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 7:48:15am
290 Lidane  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 7:49:27am

re: #287 Sionainn

LOL. When even Allen West thinks it's nothing, the GOP has a problem.

291 Gus  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 7:51:05am
292 erik_t  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 7:51:19am

Good news! Romney won't try to bog us down in specifics, which has been one of his problems recently (National Review).

The Romney-Ryan campaign has been getting wonky this month, with Paul Ryan holding town-hall meetings and clicking through PowerPoint slides in swing states. Romney, a self-professed policy guy, also enjoys getting into the weeds on health care and economics. But his time will be limited in Denver, and part of the debate prep has revolved around picking and choosing which data points to employ.

LOL. I've communicated more specifics with a series of five half-asleep grunts.

293 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 7:51:38am

Wary of Israel, Iran Is Said to Err in Strikes

The Iranian military was so apprehensive about the threat of an Israeli airstrike on its nuclear installations in 2007 and 2008 that it mistakenly fired on civilian airliners and, in one instance, on one of its own military aircraft, according to classified American intelligence reports.

The civilian planes were fired on by surface-to-air missiles and antiaircraft batteries and intercepted by Iranian fighter jets.

“Iranian air defense units have taken inappropriate actions dozens of times, including firing antiaircraft artillery and scrambling aircraft against unidentified or misidentified targets,” noted a heavily classified Pentagon intelligence report, which added that the Iranian military’s communications were so inadequate and its training deficiencies so significant that “misidentification of aircraft will continue.”

...The combination of heightened vigilance and poor command and control led to series of mistakes, according to a highly classified 2008 Pentagon report on “Operational Mishaps by Air Defense Units.”

In June 2007, the report noted, a Revolutionary Guards air defense unit fired a TOR-M1 surface-to-air missile at a civilian airliner. In May 2008, an antiaircraft battery fired on an Iranian reconnaissance drone and a civilian airliner. That same month, an antiaircraft battery fired on an Iranian F-14 fighter jet.

294 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 7:51:40am

re: #281 NJDhockeyfan

Having been up along the Golan Heights, including this past March, I can tell you that any attempts at infiltrating the DMZ with Israel will be detected rather easily; the IDF posts along Mt Hermon allow an unparalleled view into Syria (and most of the Heights afford views that on a clear day can take you straight into Damascus). It's why the Golan is such a strategic location.

The reports all seem to indicate that the fire isn't directed at Israel, but misfires from the ongoing civil war. While AQ or Hizbullah might try to take advantage of that situation by purposefully attacking Israeli targets, the IDF is well prepared at this point for such an attempt. The UN, which patrols the DMZ also is aware of the situation, and they're also likely to come under fire from Hizbullah/AQ in those potential scenarios.

Israel will do what it must to protect itself, but they're just as curious as everyone else what Assad's doing and whether the rebels can oust him.

Meanwhile, Assad's claiming to have freed up another 30,000 troops to go and crush the rebels. That's 10% of the nominal size of the military, which is a huge commitment of additional forces, but a variable missing is just how many are in the fight currently, and how many have defected or fled. The 30,000 additional troops Assad claims to now be using may be his last ditch effort to crush the rebels. Seeing as their air force/helicopter assaults haven't worked to break the back of the rebel stronghold on significant portions of the country and have led to heavy fighting in and around Aleppo and Damascus, this could be Assad's last option before considering other means or actions.

295 sagehen  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 7:54:59am

re: #293 NJDhockeyfan

Wary of Israel, Iran Is Said to Err in Strikes

how seriously deficient does an anti-aircraft artillery unit have to be to
1) fire on a civilian airliner; and
2) miss.

296 I Am Kreniigh!  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 7:56:51am

re: #287 Sionainn

LOL. When even Allen West thinks it's nothing, the GOP has a problem.

I'm amazed it took me this long to notice that Allen West's name is the last name of two Flashes from DC Comics.

His arch-enemy would be Barry Wallace.

297 Lidane  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:00:27am
298 Lidane  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:05:29am
299 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:05:48am
300 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:13:30am

Morning obligatory cuteness.

(more at zooborns)

How are you?

301 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:13:59am

re: #294 lawhawk

Having been up along the Golan Heights, including this past March, I can tell you that any attempts at infiltrating the DMZ with Israel will be detected rather easily; the IDF posts along Mt Hermon allow an unparalleled view into Syria (and most of the Heights afford views that on a clear day can take you straight into Damascus). It's why the Golan is such a strategic location.

The reports all seem to indicate that the fire isn't directed at Israel, but misfires from the ongoing civil war. While AQ or Hizbullah might try to take advantage of that situation by purposefully attacking Israeli targets, the IDF is well prepared at this point for such an attempt. The UN, which patrols the DMZ also is aware of the situation, and they're also likely to come under fire from Hizbullah/AQ in those potential scenarios.

Israel will do what it must to protect itself, but they're just as curious as everyone else what Assad's doing and whether the rebels can oust him.

Meanwhile, Assad's claiming to have freed up another 30,000 troops to go and crush the rebels. That's 10% of the nominal size of the military, which is a huge commitment of additional forces, but a variable missing is just how many are in the fight currently, and how many have defected or fled. The 30,000 additional troops Assad claims to now be using may be his last ditch effort to crush the rebels. Seeing as their air force/helicopter assaults haven't worked to break the back of the rebel stronghold on significant portions of the country and have led to heavy fighting in and around Aleppo and Damascus, this could be Assad's last option before considering other means or actions.

Those troops are mostly Alawite militia, recruited due to their perceived loyalty to the regime. Their mission seems to be the resupply of army bases that are presently besieged by the rebels. If Assad can get those forces back in the fight he's got a chance. If his militia fail to lift enough of the sieges, that his regime is doomed.

302 Lidane  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:14:50am
303 darthstar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:15:04am

Mornin' everyone.

304 darthstar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:15:29am

re: #298 Lidane

Speaking of duds...there's also Ann.

305 Gus  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:15:59am

re: #303 darthstar

Mornin' everyone.

Here's you mission for this morning...

#CantAfford4More

Hash trend bought by the Romney camp. Troll it good and hard! ;)

306 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:17:37am

re: #300 ggt

Morning obligatory cuteness.

(more at zooborns)

How are you?

Not bad today. Helps that I will be off for the rest of the week.

Feline Overlord is taking antibiotics currently. He scraped his chin up a few weeks back and now has a deep acne infection thing going in a few spots where it didn't quite heal up cleanly. Not bothering him too much, but the vet prefers to go that route considering his age. Cat is also still slowly shedding weight and is down to 8lbs. Not sure anything can be done to really help that since he pretty much gets all the food he wants to eat currently. (Could probably simply cook him chicken every night and watch him stuff himself as compared to using cat food.)

307 Sionainn  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:18:11am

re: #304 darthstar

Speaking of duds...there's also Ann.

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Ouch.

308 Interesting Times  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:20:54am

re: #307 Sionainn

Ouch.

On a hopefully more positive note, how was the Obama rally you attended?

309 darthstar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:20:59am

Okay...this is the most devastating(of the most devastating most devastating ads) ad yet.

310 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:21:27am

re: #304 darthstar

Better article on Ann Romney's influence on her husband during debate prep and the debate itself.
It's also has Ann Romney explain why Mitt always takes his watch off when he gets to the podium: doing that, plus writing 'Dad' on a piece of paper is Mitt's homage to his late father. It's a 'good share' on her part and it makes the case that Mitt is no unfeeling robot.

311 Lidane  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:22:02am

So this film is starting to screen here in Texas. Hopefully I'll get a chance to see it:

Here's the website for it: The Revisionaries

312 darthstar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:22:41am

re: #309 darthstar

Okay...this is the most devastating(of the most devastating most devastating ads) ad yet.

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Retweetable

313 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:24:02am

re: #306 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Not bad today. Helps that I will be off for the rest of the week.

Feline Overlord is taking antibiotics currently. He scraped his chin up a few weeks back and now has a deep acne infection thing going in a few spots where it didn't quite heal up cleanly. Not bothering him too much, but the vet prefers to go that route considering his age. Cat is also still slowly shedding weight and is down to 8lbs. Not sure anything can be done to really help that since he pretty much gets all the food he wants to eat currently. (Could probably simply cook him chicken every night and watch him stuff himself as compared to using cat food.)

Try chicken or other meat once or twice a week. But more important may be finding a way to get the cat exercise to help him retain muscle mass. This is important, but difficult given the independent nature of cats.

314 darthstar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:25:11am

re: #310 Dark_Falcon


Better article on Ann Romney's influence on her husband during debate prep and the debate itself.
It's also has Ann Romney explain why Mitt always takes his watch off when he gets to the podium: doing that, plus writing 'Dad' on a piece of paper is Mitt's homage to his late father. It's a 'good share' on her part and it makes the case that Mitt is no unfeeling robot.

Are we supposed to feel sorry for him? 'Dad' - give me a break...Mitt's sixty-five fucking years old and he's still reaching out for daddy approval? Now I know why Ann said she worries about his mental stability if he wins the office. And of course he takes his watch off...he knows he'll look at it otherwise.

315 Gus  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:25:29am

re: #312 darthstar

Retweetable

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You can't defeat if you don't retweet!

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316 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:26:04am

Damned if ya do, damned if ya don't

317 Lidane  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:26:07am

My surprise, let me show you it:

318 darthstar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:26:09am

re: #315 Gus

You can't defeat if you don't retweet!

//

Sweet.

319 Sionainn  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:26:24am

re: #308 Interesting Times

On a hopefully more positive note, how was the Obama rally you attended?

It was fine until a woman who was much larger than me decided to use me to lean against. I finally asked her to get off me and she looked at me like I had three heads. At one point, my fist ended up in her back. We almost got into fisticuffs. I hate people. I really do. I think I'll stay out of crowd situations from now on.

It was nice to see the president, though!

320 Lidane  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:27:01am

re: #316 Sheila Broflovski

Damned if ya do, damned if ya don't

Such is the existential crisis of Donald Trump's hair. Heh.

321 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:27:34am

re: #306 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Not bad today. Helps that I will be off for the rest of the week.

Feline Overlord is taking antibiotics currently. He scraped his chin up a few weeks back and now has a deep acne infection thing going in a few spots where it didn't quite heal up cleanly. Not bothering him too much, but the vet prefers to go that route considering his age. Cat is also still slowly shedding weight and is down to 8lbs. Not sure anything can be done to really help that since he pretty much gets all the food he wants to eat currently. (Could probably simply cook him chicken every night and watch him stuff himself as compared to using cat food.)

Your FO has been thru it lately! Scratch some ears for me!

322 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:27:39am

re: #313 Dark_Falcon

Try chicken or other meat once or twice a week. But more important may be finding a way to get the cat exercise to help him retain muscle mass. This is important, but difficult given the independent nature of cats.

Yea. That would be key. Getting a half-blind, mostly deaf, ancient cat to run around is going to be a challenge. Without the visual or aural cues it's pretty hard to get him into hunt/play mode.

323 sagehen  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:27:53am

re: #314 darthstar

Are we supposed to feel sorry for him? 'Dad' - give me a break...Mitt's sixty-five fucking years old and he's still reaching out for daddy approval? Now I know why Ann said she worries about his mental stability if he wins the office. And of course he takes his watch off...he knows he'll look at it otherwise.

If he wants his daddy's approval, maybe he should release a dozen years of tax returns. Since, as daddy pointed out, "one year could be just for show."

324 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:29:40am

Bon Appetit!

MY first culinary exposure to odd animal parts was in the basement kitchen of my paternal grandfather, Tom.

The kitchen of the apartment he shared with my grandmother in Buffalo was fine for eating, not for the odors that came with cooking. So Tom, whose idea of recreation was to cook, installed a Hotpoint gas stove and refrigerator in the laundry room downstairs.

We grilled baby lambs’ heads seasoned with lemon and oregano. We simmered tripe in tomatoes that he grew and canned every summer. We roasted beef hearts, deep-fried calves’ brains and sautéed chicken gizzards. And he cooked calves’ liver rare at a time when everyone else in the family thought it had to come out shoe-leather well done.

Sometimes he poured me a small glass of the homemade wine he served young from barrels in the “cave” (his tool room).

Possible Obama Ad: "Look at some of the things Mitt Romney ate when he was in France!!1"

325 RadicalModerate  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:30:11am

Not a good start to my day:

Texas judge suspended over video of him whipping daughter with belt could return to bench

This was the case where a family court judge had a video posted of him severely whipping his cerebral palsy afflicted teenage daughter (who was 14 at the time) because she was using the internet.

Link to original LGF Page on this story:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

326 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:30:21am

re: #323 sagehen

If he wants his daddy's approval, maybe he should release a dozen years of tax returns. Since, as daddy pointed out, "one year could be just for show."

And Mitt's one year is for show since it has been admitted that he skipped deductions he could have taken in order to manipulate the numbers on it. (With nothing preventing a correction being made post-election to get said deduction that no one would ever find out about.)

327 erik_t  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:30:30am

re: #324 Dark_Falcon

Possible Obama Ad: "Look at some of the things Mitt Romney ate when he was in France!!1"

Pretty sure it's hard to concern-troll indies with what the white man ate. Just a guess.

328 Mattand  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:31:18am

re: #310 Dark_Falcon


Better article on Ann Romney's influence on her husband during debate prep and the debate itself.
It's also has Ann Romney explain why Mitt always takes his watch off when he gets to the podium: doing that, plus writing 'Dad' on a piece of paper is Mitt's homage to his late father. It's a 'good share' on her part and it makes the case that Mitt is no unfeeling robot.

Robot? No. Unfeeling? Wellll...

329 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:32:09am

re: #327 erik_t

Pretty sure it's hard to concern-troll indies with what the white man ate. Just a guess.

I was just having fun. I was more poking fun at the absurdity of some political ads than at Obama and his campaign.

330 Interesting Times  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:33:41am

Bwahaha:

331 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:33:59am

re: #325 RadicalModerate

Not a good start to my day:

Texas judge suspended over video of him whipping daughter with belt could return to bench

This was the case where a family court judge had a video posted of him severely whipping his cerebral palsy afflicted teenage daughter (who was 14 at the time) because she was using the internet.

Link to original LGF Page on this story:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

I remember this. Insane.

332 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:34:22am

re: #330 Interesting Times

Bwahaha:

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Michelle?

333 erik_t  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:34:58am

re: #332 ggt

Michelle?

OMG FLOTUS IS BLACK TOO!??!

334 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:35:47am

How do you respond to someone who writes that "Prolife is the moral choice" on your fb. I want to say "who's morality?" But, I have a feeling, this person can't think philosophically.

335 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:36:16am

re: #328 Mattand

Robot? No. Unfeeling? Wellll...

He compartmentalizes, is what I think. He cares about America and about the people who have worked for him. but its an abstract sort of concern and one with a sense of detachment. True warmth is something he reserves for the select few whom he knows well and with whom he spends his life. It's not that uncommon a trait, really.

336 Lidane  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:37:11am

Shocka! Ayn Rand has been proven wrong. Again.

Ayn Rand vs. the Pygmies: Did human evolution favor individualists or altruists?

Ultimately, Rand was searching for the origin of John Galt in the pages of human nature. But was she right? Are we rational egotists trapped in a net of social obligations? Or are we an innately social species for whom altruism was integral to our success on this planet? There was only one place she could look: the Pleistocene.

The Pleistocene epoch, from 2.6 million to 11,700 years ago, was a formative time in our species’ development. The first members of the genus Homo began to walk the great savannas of Africa at the beginning of this epoch. In a little more than 2 million years, we went from loose aggregations of bonobo-like bipeds, traveling upright between patches of forest, to highly integrated societies made up of multiple families and clans. By studying the archaeological record as well as modern-day hunter-gatherers, evolutionary scientists have been constructing a record of how our early human ancestors made this journey. It is clear that John Galt was not present in our ancestral family tree.

337 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:38:13am

District considers 'trash-cams' at school cafeterias

TAVARES, Fla. - Lake County School Board officials are considering attaching cameras to school cafeteria trash cans to study what students are tossing after officials found that most of the vegetables on the school menu end up in the trash can.

New federal laws require students to take a healthy produce at lunchtime, but last year in Lake County, students tossed $75,000 worth of produce in the garbage.

"It's a big issue, and it's very hard to get our hands around it," said School Board member Todd Howard, who suggested "trash-cams." "They have to take (the vegetable), and then it ends up in the trash can, and that's a waste of taxpayer money. It's also not giving students the nutrition that they need."

They serve food that kids don't like and they are surprised it's ending up in the trash can? LOL!

338 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:39:02am

re: #337 NJDhockeyfan

District considers 'trash-cams' at school cafeterias

They serve food that kids don't like and they are surprised it's ending up in the trash can? LOL!

Keep beating that drum.
/

339 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:39:17am
340 Interesting Times  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:40:10am

re: #334 ggt

How do you respond to someone who writes that "Prolife is the moral choice"

Post a link to this story on Romania's forced birth policy:

Do Republicans want America to be like Romania in the 1960's-1980's?

Celibacy was also not acceptable. Anyone that remained childless, even if they were unmarried and over the age of 25, was required to pay a "celibacy tax" which was a huge burden for the many Romanians living in poverty. It was cheaper to pop out a few kids.
...
Women began to turn to illegal and dangerous abortion methods because they could not afford to keep having children. Because of this the maternal mortality rate went through the roof. In 1989 the recorded number of women that died during pregnancy or childbirth was 169, 10 times higher than the recorded number of any European country. 89% of those deaths were abortion related.

Ask him if that's "moral" or "prolife" in his book.

341 wrenchwench  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:41:01am

re: #337 NJDhockeyfan

District considers 'trash-cams' at school cafeterias

They serve food that kids don't like and they are surprised it's ending up in the trash can? LOL!

If they instituted composting, it wouldn't go to waste. They could start a garden and grow what the kids say they'll eat.

Also, what Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste said.

342 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:41:14am

There is nothing fun about a "fun size" candy bar.

343 Mattand  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:41:56am

re: #335 Dark_Falcon

He compartmentalizes, is what I think. He cares about America and about the people who have worked for him. but its an abstract sort of concern and one with a sense of detachment. True warmth is something he reserves for the select few whom he knows well and with whom he spends his life. It's not that uncommon a trait, really.

You're right; it's not an uncommon trait for people to be warm around those they truly love.

That is much different from running for President and causally dismissing a huge chunk of your fellow citizens as lazy moochers. I don't expect him to hug everybody, but the guy has a huge empathy problem, exacerbated by the fact he was born into a massive amount of wealth.

344 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:42:12am

re: #337 NJDhockeyfan

District considers 'trash-cams' at school cafeterias

They serve food that kids don't like and they are surprised it's ending up in the trash can? LOL!

I love how we live in a society in which we are so prosperous that people will throw away food because it isn't what they "like". I think if the kids were hungry, they'd eat it. We can't be short-order cooks.

And we also can't waste our money on non-nutritious food. The Carb-Lobby is going to have to make a better product or go out of business, IMHO.

345 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:42:16am

re: #341 wrenchwench

If they instituted composting, it wouldn't go to waste. They could start a garden and grow what the kids say they'll eat.

Also, what Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste said.

A pizza tree?
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346 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:42:28am

SEETHING OVER THE GRIEVOUS INSULT SUFFERED BY REV. WRIGHT

347 allegro  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:42:41am

re: #335 Dark_Falcon

He compartmentalizes, is what I think. He cares about America and about the people who have worked for him. but its an abstract sort of concern and one with a sense of detachment. True warmth is something he reserves for the select few whom he knows well and with whom he spends his life. It's not that uncommon a trait, really.

He has shown no ability to experience empathy when given so many opportunities to demonstrate it. Both rehearsed and off-the-cuff statements prove this lack - the guy simply cannot even imagine what anyone else's life is like and I see no evidence that he cares to try. There is no "true warmth" there. Stories from his own family makes that pretty clear. They struggle to find an example - ANY example - that they can share to "humanize" the guy.

348 Gus  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:42:45am
349 Interesting Times  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:43:40am

re: #337 NJDhockeyfan

re: #338 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Oh good. Now I have the perfect excuse to post this Jon Stewart piece, utterly trashing the idiotic rightwing response to school-lunch-gate:

Jon Stewart Gets to the Bottom of What's Wrong with School Lunches

Students are protesting their lunches. What's exactly the problem? Jon Stewart looked into it last night on The Daily Show. Well, the food under new health guidelines tastes bad. Stewart jokes, "News flash! Extry extry! School lunches suck!" And students are still hungry after they eat it. "So you hate the food and you want more of it."

But wait, is the government really restricting the amount of food? It's not all foods. Students can get seconds of fruits and vegetables. So why are the kids still hungry? Apparently twice as many students are throwing out their lunches. "Hmm, now I am obviously not an nutritionist or an educator," Stewart says, "but I think if these kids are hungry, I guess my solution would be...eat your motherf**kin lunch!"

Video of the segment is at the link.

350 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:44:56am

re: #344 ggt

I love how we live in a society in which we are so prosperous that people will throw away food because it isn't what they "like". I think if the kids were hungry, they'd eat it. We can't be short-order cooks.

And we also can't waste our money on non-nutritious food. The Carb-Lobby is going to have to make a better product or go out of business, IMHO.

Some people have such delicate palates that they would rather starve to death than eat brussels sprouts.

351 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:45:33am

re: #340 Interesting Times

Post a link to this story on Romania's forced birth policy:

Do Republicans want America to be like Romania in the 1960's-1980's?

Ask him if that's "moral" or "prolife" in his book.

excellent, you should Pages Post that.

on my fb. althought I don't think this person (a nurse) will get it.

352 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:46:47am

re: #350 Sheila Broflovski

Some people have such delicate palates that they would rather starve to death than eat brussels sprouts.

They are going to put cameras in to see what they are throwing away. I bet I could look into the trash can and tell them what is in there.

353 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:47:20am

re: #349 Interesting Times

re: #338 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Oh good. Now I have the perfect excuse to post this Jon Stewart piece, utterly trashing the idiotic rightwing response to school-lunch-gate:

Jon Stewart Gets to the Bottom of What's Wrong with School Lunches

Video of the segment is at the link.

GMTA!!! LOL

School lunches have sucked since the beginning of school lunches. IT seems to be a constant in the universe. Eat it, bring your own or starve.

354 Obdicut  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:47:53am

re: #352 NJDhockeyfan

They are going to put cameras in to see what they are throwing away. I bet I could look into the trash can and tell them what is in there.

It's kind of nuts. I would have gotten into so much trouble as a kid for throwing away my lunch, whether it was school or brought from home. So much trouble.

I still get annoyed at wasted food.

355 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:48:20am

re: #350 Sheila Broflovski

Some people have such delicate palates that they would rather starve to death than eat brussels sprouts.

I'd like to be able to afford brussel sprouts more often or asparagus. Are they really on the school menu?

356 Lidane  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:49:09am

re: #346 Sheila Broflovski

The Donald and his hair are still pissed that within a single week, POTUS had not only released his long form birth certificate, but he humiliated Donald at the White House Correspondents Dinner and ordered the raid that killed Bin Laden.

He hasn't recovered from being turned into a laughing stock. It's hilarious to see him seething now.

357 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:49:10am

re: #355 ggt

I'd like to be able to afford brussel sprouts more often or asparagus. Are they really on the school menu?

I wasn't talking about school lunches specifically. I was talking about a person that I live with who won't eat any food unless it's a burger.

358 allegro  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:49:27am

What could go wrong?

Fox News psychiatrist: It’s ‘way normal’ to hoard ‘enormous cache’ of weapons because of Iran

A member of the Fox News Medical A-Team on Wednesday insisted it was “way normal” to stockpile personal weapons because Iran had a nuclear program — and, in fact, the people who were not hoarding survival gear might be the “crazy ones.”

During a segment titled “Normal or Nuts?,” a viewer asked Dr. Keith Ablow if they were “nuts” to have “amassed years of food, fuel, generators, outdoor survival gear & an enormous cache of defensive ordinance.”

“Way normal!” Ablow insisted. “Because how can this guy be crazy when the Iranians are close to getting a nuclear weapon? It may be that the rest of us who aren’t amassing survival gear are the crazy ones.”

“I say, check the ammunition, make sure it’s live because these are dark days potentially,” he added. “So, not delusional, simply seeing reality.”

Because of Iran? Riiiiight. Sure.

359 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:50:28am

re: #357 Sheila Broflovski

I wasn't talking about school lunches specifically. I was talking about a person that I live with who won't eat any food unless it's a burger.

In my house they'd starve. I guess I'm just too much of a bitch. I hate to cook, so it's eat what I cook, make your own, or starve.

360 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:52:40am

re: #359 ggt

In my house they'd starve. I guess I'm just too much of a bitch. I hate to cook, so it's eat what I cook, make your own, or starve.

I had to make lunch for my sister's kids once . I asked what they wanted and my sis said, "whatever you put in front of them". Meanie.

361 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:53:49am

re: #347 allegro

He has shown no ability to experience empathy when given so many opportunities to demonstrate it. Both rehearsed and off-the-cuff statements prove this lack - the guy simply cannot even imagine what anyone else's life is like and I see no evidence that he cares to try. There is no "true warmth" there. Stories from his own family makes that pretty clear. They struggle to find an example - ANY example - that they can share to "humanize" the guy.

Well I'd say he's tried:

During my campaign for governor, I decided to spend a day every few weeks doing the jobs of other people in Massachusetts. Among other jobs, I cooked sausages at Fenway Park, worked on asphalt paving crew, stacked bales of hay on a farm, volunteered in an emergency room, served food at a nursing home, and worked as a child-care assistant. I’m often asked which was the hardest job – it’s child care, by a mile.

One day I gathered trash as a garbage collector. I stood on that little platform at the back of the truck, holding on as the driver navigated his way through the narrow streets of Boston. As we pulled up to traffic lights, I noticed that the shoppers and businesspeople who were standing only a few feet from me didn’t even see me. It was as if I was invisible. Perhaps it was because a lot of us don’t think garbage men are worthy of notice; I disagree – anyone who works that hard deserves our respect. – I wasn’t a particularly good garbage collector: at one point, after filling the trough at the back of the truck, I pulled the wrong hydraulic lever. Instead of pushing the load into the truck, I dumped it onto the street. Maybe the suits didn’t notice me, but the guys at the construction site sure did: “Nice job, Mitt,” they called. “Why don’t you find an easier job?” And then they good-naturedly came down and helped me pick up my mess.

Read the article for the source.

363 Interesting Times  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:54:48am

re: #351 ggt

excellent, you should Pages Post that.

on my fb. althought I don't think this person (a nurse) will get it.

Then perhaps you could link to the story of Gerri Santoro (graphic photo at link...but what's good for fetus-fetishists is good for pro-choicers - we can produce gross-out, horror-pictures too!)

364 Lidane  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:54:59am

So LinkedIn added a new feature where you could subscribe to updates from what they call "thought leaders". Most of them are business executives of one stripe of another, but both Obama and Romney are featured too.

Here's the result so far:

365 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:57:27am

re: #358 allegro

What could go wrong?

Fox News psychiatrist: It’s ‘way normal’ to hoard ‘enormous cache’ of weapons because of Iran

Because of Iran? Riiiiight. Sure.

It does not pay to insult your audience. If the facts don't let you keep the people you need to like you onside, then some say throw the facts out. The logic being that business should come first.

366 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:57:34am

re: #359 ggt

In my house they'd starve. I guess I'm just too much of a bitch. I hate to cook, so it's eat what I cook, make your own, or starve.

After 40 years of this person utterly refusing to eat certain delicious foods, all because his mother prepared them poorly, I give up, cook just what I like and let him fend for himself.

367 darthstar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:58:10am

re: #350 Sheila Broflovski

Some people have such delicate palates that they would rather starve to death than eat brussels sprouts.

They're harvesting brussels sprouts up the street from where I live...probably about 20 acres of them. Beautiful plants with big leaves, when cut down to the stalk leaving these little knobby towers. I'll pick up a stalk with about 20-30 sprouts on it, set it outside in a bucket of water (like a cut flower), and then pop off 6-8 of them every few days to cook. Stalk will last a few weeks that way. Take them all off and put them in the fridge, and you need to eat them within 4 days.

368 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:58:33am

More hoarding. Bad ending.
[Link: newyork.cbslocal.com...]

369 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:58:44am

Some more drinking game rules:

* Candidate answers a different question from the one asked
* Candidate mentions a member of his family (drink twice if it's a parent)
* Candidate mentions a member of his opponent's family (same bonus multiplier as above)
* Candidate cites a statistic that blatantly sounds completely made-up

370 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 8:59:01am

re: #363 Interesting Times

Then perhaps you could link to the story of Gerri Santoro (graphic photo at link...but what's good for fetus-fetishists is good for pro-choicers - we can produce gross-out, horror-pictures too!)

I have. The POV movie last I checked was available. It's probably a few months since I posted it.

371 darthstar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:00:16am

re: #369 Our Precious Bodily Fluids

Some more drinking game rules:

* Candidate answers a different question from the one asked
* Candidate mentions a member of his family (drink twice if it's a parent)
* Candidate mentions a member of his opponent's family (same bonus multiplier as above)
* Candidate cites a statistic that blatantly sounds completely made-up

Every time Mitt appears convincingly human, take a shot of motor oil. (Don't worry...you won't even have to open the can.)

372 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:00:20am

re: #367 darthstar

Can't you freeze them?

373 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:01:08am

re: #369 Our Precious Bodily Fluids

Speaking of drinking, this liquor company has a new idea to sell it's alcocal...

German liquor company claims every ounce is poured over naked model's breasts before bottling

A German liquor company called G-Spirits is promising customers that every drop of its line of alcoholic beverages has been poured on the naked breasts of a certified model

374 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:01:19am

re: #369 Our Precious Bodily Fluids

Some more drinking game rules:

* Candidate answers a different question from the one asked
* Candidate mentions a member of his family (drink twice if it's a parent)
* Candidate mentions a member of his opponent's family (same bonus multiplier as above)
* Candidate cites a statistic that blatantly sounds completely made-up

No, you can't have things that are that common. You'll die of alcohol poisoning if you adopt rules that require that much drinking!

/

375 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:01:21am

re: #361 Dark_Falcon

So he did the jobs, but that sounds like undercover boss. He hasn't lived the life. Until then it's really just words. It'd be like saying "I saw a documentary on poor people therefore i personally know what it's like to be poor".

376 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:02:22am

re: #373 NJDhockeyfan

Speaking of drinking, this liquor company has a new idea to sell it's alcocal...

German liquor company claims every ounce is poured over naked model's breasts before bottling

But let's face it. Some of those really skinny ones have no breasts.

377 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:02:50am

re: #373 NJDhockeyfan

Speaking of drinking, this liquor company has a new idea to sell it's alcocal...

German liquor company claims every ounce is poured over naked model's breasts before bottling

And if you believe that, I've got some nice bottomland to sell you. Just don't ask me what its on the bottom of.

378 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:04:09am

re: #376 Cannadian Club Akbar

But let's face it. Some of those really skinny ones have no breasts.

They are all really skinny.

379 allegro  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:05:24am

re: #375 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

So he did the jobs, but that sounds like undercover boss. He hasn't lived the life. Until then it's really just words. It'd be like saying "I saw a documentary on poor people therefore i personally know what it's like to be poor".

He was also campaigning and trying to look like a regular guy. These weren't attempts at understanding - they were photo ops.

380 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:05:29am

I am not forgetting.

FOR SOME REASON, I can't upload pictures to the Pages. I'd like to post this there.

381 Lidane  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:05:40am

Bryan Fischer and his band of fascists have a sad:

382 Gus  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:05:47am

re: #364 Lidane

So LinkedIn added a new feature where you could subscribe to updates from what they call "thought leaders". Most of them are business executives of one stripe of another, but both Obama and Romney are featured too.

Here's the result so far:

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Here's why:

383 darthstar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:06:31am

Funny how, no matter how hard they try to make it otherwise, video of Mitt Romney talking to white people is more damaging to his campaign than video of President Obama talking to black people is to his. Maybe it's the context of what they say and not where they're saying it?

384 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:06:44am

re: #379 allegro

like i said, an episode of undercover boss.

385 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:06:58am

re: #379 allegro

He was also campaigning and trying to look like a regular guy. These weren't attempts at understanding - they were photo ops.

He says they were attempts at understanding. By what means can you prove him wrong?

386 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:07:08am

People who seem to look down on the rest of us from their moral high horses--What is up with that. Insecurity? Inability to think?

Do they think they are going to get into heaven.

Why is reality so illusive? ellusive? allusive?

(Internet made me bad speller!?

387 darthstar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:07:33am

re: #372 Cannadian Club Akbar

Can't you freeze them?

Why? The season goes for a few months...enjoy them fresh while they're around (like Asparagus in the spring).

388 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:09:30am

I looked-it up.

ellusive.

389 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:10:07am

Worky.

390 darthstar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:10:20am

Showing a complete inability to learn from its mistakes, the Romney campaign chooses the day of the first debate to buy another twitter hashtag and leave themselves open for 12 hours of pre-debate mockery. #CantAfford4More

391 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:10:33am
392 Gus  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:11:15am

re: #390 darthstar

Showing a complete inability to learn from its mistakes, the Romney campaign chooses the day of the first debate to buy another twitter hashtag and leave themselves open for 12 hours of pre-debate mockery. #CantAfford4More

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

393 Lidane  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:12:01am

re: #390 darthstar

Showing a complete inability to learn from its mistakes, the Romney campaign chooses the day of the first debate to buy another twitter hashtag and leave themselves open for 12 hours of pre-debate mockery. #CantAfford4More

I wondered about that tag. ROFL.

You'd think the first few hashtags that failed would have been enough. Guess not.

394 darthstar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:12:29am

re: #392 Gus

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

No need to troll...it's already out of control.

395 Gus  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:12:39am

re: #393 Lidane

I wondered about that tag. ROFL.

You'd think the first few hashtags that failed would have been enough. Guess not.

396 allegro  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:12:41am

re: #385 Dark_Falcon

He says they were attempts at understanding. By what means can you prove him wrong?

He's been running for president for better than 5 years. He's given us years of observation under many different circumstances so he's far from being an unknown. His words and actions during this time are proof enough.

397 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:13:08am
398 darthstar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:13:37am
399 darthstar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:15:03am
400 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:15:24am

re: #396 allegro

He's been running for president for better than 5 years. He's given us years of observation under many different circumstances so he's far from being an unknown. His words and actions during this time are proof enough.

That's not proof or a real answer. Your original comment is therefore filed under "Donk Trolling". Thank you for playing!

401 wrenchwench  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:15:29am
402 Obdicut  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:16:39am

re: #400 Dark_Falcon

Why do you say stupid shit like 'donk'? What does it gain you to alienate and offend people?

403 wrenchwench  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:16:41am

re: #400 Dark_Falcon

That's not proof or a real answer. Your original comment is therefore filed under "Donk Trolling". Thank you for playing!

You don't have proof that he's warm and human with his family, either. What kind of trolling should that be filed under?

404 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:16:42am

re: #399 darthstar

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Can't afford not to --campaigning is big business in the US. Jobs depend on it.

wish I were /

405 erik_t  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:17:44am

re: #403 wrenchwench

You don't have proof that he's warm and human with his family, either. What kind of trolling should that be filed under?

It's an opinion he finds unfavorable because it's negative towards his team.

Y'know, the usual.

406 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:18:22am

re: #399 darthstar

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407 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:19:19am

re: #385 Dark_Falcon

See his comments about the 47%, his comments about not worrying about the poor, hell his whole campaign along with his policy proposals.

408 Obdicut  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:19:32am

re: #406 Dark_Falcon

What socialism, Dark?

409 erik_t  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:19:41am

Really, I think Romney should probably do his best to avoid launching uncontrollable conversations about what nondescript subjects can or cannot afford. This isn't rocket surgery.

410 Gus  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:20:08am
411 b_sharp  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:20:08am

re: #386 ggt

People who seem to look down on the rest of us from their moral high horses--What is up with that. Insecurity? Inability to think?

Do they think they are going to get into heaven.

Why is reality so illusive? ellusive? allusive?

(Internet made me bad speller!?

Yes, reality can be considered an illusion, if you're a solipsist.
Some people find reality elusive and hard to grasp.
The concept of reality may allude to Aristotelian metaphysics.

412 Obdicut  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:20:13am

re: #406 Dark_Falcon

Also, give a couple examples of 'fecklessness' abroad.

413 Obdicut  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:20:35am

re: #410 Gus

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Heh. That's actually a call for Obama to not get re-elected, 'cuz he definitely is going to get more race-baiting attacks.

414 erik_t  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:21:11am

re: #412 The Toast Of God Fload Jeas

Also, give a couple examples of 'fecklessness' abroad.

Well, Osama's been completely feckless for a solid year now. Poor guy can't get a damned thing done.

415 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:21:25am

re: #412 The Toast Of God Fload Jeas

Also, give a couple examples of 'fecklessness' abroad.

Nope. It's just Twitter Counter-Trolling. Not meant to be explained, meant to slap at those who are trolling.

416 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:21:26am

re: #412 The Toast Of God Fload Jeas

trolling here, trolling on twitter too.

417 darthstar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:21:28am
418 Gus  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:21:32am

re: #413 The Toast Of God Fload Jeas

Heh. That's actually a call for Obama to not get re-elected, 'cuz he definitely is going to get more race-baiting attacks.

I know but it's easily turned around. ;)

419 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:23:08am

re: #334 ggt

How do you respond to someone who writes that "Prolife is the moral choice" on your fb. I want to say "who's morality?" But, I have a feeling, this person can't think philosophically.

In that situation wife usually responds: "Glad you've joined us in the fight against the death penalty." Sometimes works.

420 Obdicut  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:23:23am

re: #415 Dark_Falcon

Nope. It's just Twitter Counter-Trolling. Not meant to be explained, meant to slap at those who are trolling.

If you can't back up your shit, then your shit is shit. Not the shit, just shit.

You respond to an obvious joke with a stupid, baseless attack on the president.

Dumb.

421 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:23:41am
422 darthstar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:24:09am

re: #379 allegro

He was also campaigning and trying to look like a regular guy. These weren't attempts at understanding - they were photo ops.

Attempt at understanding or photo-op? YOU DECIDE!

Image: 10304_10151201780558024_899070075_n.jpg

I love Darryl's expression.

423 Obdicut  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:25:05am

I like this one, though in some cases I don't think it is pretense.

424 darthstar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:26:24am

re: #406 Dark_Falcon

Really? You're just trolling some guy on twitter because he made a funny tweet and I shared it? Did you key people's cars in high school because they dated the girls you liked?

425 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:26:56am

WTF

426 darthstar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:27:04am

re: #420 The Toast Of God Fload Jeas

If you can't back up your shit, then your shit is shit. Not the shit, just shit.

You respond to an obvious joke with a stupid, baseless attack on the president.

Dumb.

His insecurity is showing.

427 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:27:11am
428 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:27:46am

re: #424 darthstar

trolled on twitter, trolled here, it's just another day on the internet for me lol.

429 darthstar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:29:59am

re: #420 The Toast Of God Fload Jeas

I know dreggas from dKos...smart fellow. Probably got a chuckle out of DF's insecure reply.

430 Gus  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:30:06am
431 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:30:18am

re: #429 darthstar

yes, yes I did.

432 darthstar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:30:38am

re: #428 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

trolled on twitter, trolled here, it's just another day on the internet for me lol.

Oh, I know you from here as well...damn name shifters. :)

433 Gus  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:30:58am

re: #429 darthstar

I know dreggas from dKos...smart fellow. Probably got a chuckle out of DF's insecure reply.

Dreggas is right here right now. See above your comment.

434 Killgore Trout  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:32:00am

re: #421 NJDhockeyfan

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I was just watching some youtube clips of the protests today. No dramtic action but the protests are very large.

435 darthstar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:32:05am

Bibi's bomb meme...funny shit.

Image: enhanced-buzz-1117-1348788504-3.jpg

Full strip of them here: [Link: www.buzzfeed.com...]

436 wrenchwench  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:32:11am

re: #433 Gus

Dreggas is right here right now. See above your comment.

Whoa! Creepy!

//

437 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:33:22am

re: #411 reflections of a raging redneck

Yes, reality can be considered an illusion, if you're a solipsist.
Some people find reality elusive and hard to grasp.
The concept of reality may allude to Aristotelian metaphysics.

Ok, how about seeing what is in front of their eyes?

Like, a women isn't pregnant until she is actually pregnant.. That making abortion illegal won't make it go away. Making guns illegal won't make crime go away.

Why do I ask. The Conspiracy theorists are good at warping reality to suit their needs.

438 darthstar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:33:26am

re: #433 Gus

Dreggas is right here right now. See above your comment.

Jesus! I mean Jones! I mean...

439 Eventual Carrion  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:33:49am

re: #337 NJDhockeyfan

District considers 'trash-cams' at school cafeterias

They serve food that kids don't like and they are surprised it's ending up in the trash can? LOL!

Been that since I was in HS 35 years ago. Nothing new.

440 Gus  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:34:09am

re: #438 darthstar

Jesus! I mean Jones! I mean...

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Right Here Right Meow

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441 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:34:53am

re: #436 wrenchwench

We are everywhere, we are Dreggas!

442 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:34:55am

re: #425 Sheila Broflovski

WTF

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She obviously wanted it --I mean, she probably thought it was her lucky day.

/gah

443 Gus  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:35:55am

re: #441 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

We are everywhere, we are Dreggas!

I feel stabby.

//

444 darthstar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:35:59am

Bad twitter link...

445 Gus  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:36:12am

re: #444 darthstar

...

..

446 Kragar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:36:36am

Tucker Carlson: ‘Throne-Sniffers’ In Media Dismissing Obama Vid As Old News

After a video conservative news outlets hyped as a racially explosive Obama bombshell turned out to be a public and widely covered 2007 speech by the then-Democratic presidential candidate, The Daily Caller co-founder Tucker Carlson took to Fox News to bash the “throne sniffers” in the media who dismiss the story as old news.

“You are seeing now the press, which contains many reflexive defenders of Obama — many throne sniffers who instinctively suck up to power — you are seeing them try to dismiss this as old news,” Carlson said on “Fox and Friends” Wednesday morning.
...
Carlson on Wednesday claimed the original reports of the speech were based on Obama’s prepared remarks, not his more aggressive and ad-libbed delivery.

“It’s very revealing of where the press stands in this election,” he said. “They have by and large taken a side and it’s a subversion of what journalism is supposed to be. It’s wrong.”

447 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:36:42am

need . more . COFFEE!!!

448 darthstar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:36:57am

re: #445 Gus

..

.

449 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:36:58am

re: #434 Killgore Trout

I was just watching some youtube clips of the protests today. No dramtic action but the protests are very large.

Lets hope it stays that way. The last time there were large protests alot of people were murdered.

450 Kragar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:37:25am

Stayed up too late last night reading.

451 darthstar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:37:30am

re: #449 NJDhockeyfan

Lets hope it stays that way. The last time there were large protests alot of people were murdered.

And that could cut in to Mitt Romney's audience tonight.

452 The Ghost of a Flea  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:37:46am

re: #415 Dark_Falcon

Nope. It's just Twitter Counter-Trolling. Not meant to be explained, meant to slap at those who are trolling.

Yessiree. Repeating lies is just evening things out.

Why not follow through with the sustained "argument" for each of those talking points, eh? Remember where those "ideas" came from?

You know, how Obama's a socialist because of his black church and the African dad he never knew, and Obama's overseas failures are because of his anti-colonial sympathies and his "apologizing"?

453 Someone Please Beam Me Up!  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:38:37am

re: #306 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Not bad today. Cat is also still slowly shedding weight and is down to 8lbs. Not sure anything can be done to really help that since he pretty much gets all the food he wants to eat currently.

When my cat was losing too much weight (not a problem with current feline!), the vet gave me some special food, made to be very fattening and very delicious. You might try that.

454 Killgore Trout  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:38:50am

re: #449 NJDhockeyfan

Lets hope it stays that way. The last time there were large protests alot of people were murdered.

Sadly, I think the situation is going to require a popular uprising and the Mullahs aren't going to go peacefully. I doubt this is it but it's going to happen eventually.

455 wrenchwench  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:38:53am

re: #450 Kragar

Stayed up too late last night reading.

I used to do that. Now I fall asleep on the book.

456 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:39:26am

Well, we all knew this was coming.

China firm sues Obama over blocked US wind farm deal

"A Chinese-owned firm in the US is suing President Barack Obama after he blocked a wind farm deal on national security grounds."

// But Obama is weak on China and National Security

457 Lidane  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:39:30am
458 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:39:38am

re: #446 Kragar

Fucker, I mean Tucker, knows a lot about sniffing thrones.

459 Sionainn  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:39:53am

re: #432 darthstar

Oh, I know you from here as well...damn name shifters. :)

LOL. I was wondering about that.

460 darthstar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:41:28am
461 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:42:40am

re: #450 Kragar

Stayed up too late last night reading.

I'll bite.

What were you reading Kragar?

462 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:43:23am

re: #460 darthstar

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clearly this picture is the result of the young man realizing how much he owes as part of the national debt thanks to listening to Romney commercials.

//

463 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:44:18am

Well, the coffee didn't magically appear. Guess, I'll have to get off my ass and make another pot .

First world problems. Life sucks.

:)

464 Lidane  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:44:26am

OK. This pisses me off:

This was the victim in question:

n a 4-3 ruling Tuesday afternoon, the Connecticut State Supreme Court overturned the sexual assault conviction of a man who had sex with a woman who “has severe cerebral palsy, has the intellectual functional equivalent of a 3-year-old and cannot verbally communicate.” The Court held that, because Connecticut statutes define physical incapacity for the purpose of sexual assault as “unconscious or for any other reason. . . physically unable to communicate unwillingness to an act,” the defendant could not be convicted if there was any chance that the victim could have communicated her lack of consent. Since the victim in this case was capable of “biting, kicking, scratching, screeching, groaning or gesturing,” the Court ruled that that victim could have communicated lack of consent despite her serious mental deficiencies."

So despite the fact that she's severely disabled and unable to communicate, AND has the mental capacity of a 3-year old, meaning she wouldn't have understood what was happening to her, somehow her rape wasn't legitimate because she didn't bite or kick or fight back enough?

What. The. FUCK.

We have some seriously fucked up standards in this country if a disabled woman's rapist is set free because she didn't resist enough.

465 Kragar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:44:34am

re: #461 ggt

I'll bite.

What were you reading Kragar?

This Book Is Full of Spiders: Seriously, Dude, Don't Touch It

466 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:45:24am

Is there any place online that gives a good explanation for the brief gas price plunge in 2008, which all the wingnuts are now claiming was the "normal" price of gas before Obama was elected?

467 HappyWarrior  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:45:45am

re: #464 Lidane

OK. This pisses me off:

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This was the victim in question:

So despite the fact that she's severely disabled and unable to communicate, AND has the mental capacity of a 3-year old, meaning she wouldn't have understood what was happening to her, somehow her rape wasn't legitimate because she didn't bite or kick or fight back enough?

What. The. FUCK.

We have some seriously fucked up standards in this country if a disabled woman's rapist is set free because she resist enough.

Yeah, this is insane.

468 erik_t  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:46:56am

re: #464 Lidane

So despite the fact that she's severely disabled and unable to communicate, AND has the mental capacity of a 3-year old, meaning she wouldn't have understood what was happening to her, somehow her rape wasn't legitimate because she didn't bite or kick or fight back enough?

I'm profoundly unclear as to how someone with the mental capacity of a three year old is able to give informed consent in any circumstance whatsoever.

Discussions of resistance aren't even relevant.

469 Kragar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:46:57am
471 HappyWarrior  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:48:27am

re: #468 erik_t

I'm profoundly unclear as to how someone with the mental capacity of a three year old is able to give informed consent in any circumstance whatsoever.

Discussions of resistance aren't even relevant.

That's what I was thinking as well.

472 Lidane  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:49:09am

re: #468 erik_t

I'm profoundly unclear as to how someone with the mental capacity of a three year old is able to give informed consent in any circumstance whatsoever.

Discussions of resistance aren't even relevant.

Seriously. The woman has severe cerebral palsy, can't communicate, and has the mind of a 3-year old. How could she have understood any of what was happening to her, or been able to articulate any sort of response at all?

It makes no goddamn sense. This ruling is barbaric.

473 HappyWarrior  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:50:18am

re: #469 Kragar

10 Totally Fake Stories Bannered By Drudge This Year

Why he has any credibility is beyond me when he goes out of his way to post stuff he knows damn well is false.

474 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:50:44am

re: #466 Sheila Broflovski

I think I posted something about that a few weeks back. That oil prices plunged as a result of global demand slacking due to the deep recession, and that prices began resuming an upward trend as demand began picking up both here in the US and China.

475 wrenchwench  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:50:50am

re: #461 ggt

I'll bite.

What were you reading Kragar?

re: #465 Kragar

This Book Is Full of Spiders: Seriously, Dude, Don't Touch It

Now aren't you sorry you said 'bite', ggt?

476 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:50:53am

HA HA HA

477 Killgore Trout  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:51:09am

Update: NYC lawyer: Iranian cameraman concerned for safety

"He was feeling threatened because of what he thought would happen when he went back," O'Dwyer said in an interview with The Associated Press. "There were demands made on him by the presidential detail while he was here to do things that he did not want to do. He was obviously very, very concerned about what the repercussions to him would be when he went back to Iran for disobeying those orders."

478 Kragar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:52:18am

Pelosi Attacks Republicans For Withholding Embassy Security Funding

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi on Tuesday shot back at Republicans criticizing the Obama administration after the fallout of the Libya Consulate attacks, pointing out that they withheld hundreds of millions of dollars the State Department had asked for last year for embassy security and construction.

House Republicans wrote to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton suggesting that the Obama administration was negligent in providing security for the consulate in Benghazi where four U.S. diplomats were killed in an attack on Sept. 11 and asked Clinton for more information. Noting that the investigation into what happened is still ongoing, Pelosi, in an interview with CNN, asked, “how can you ask the secretary to come before the information is known?”

The Minority Leader then pointed out that it was Republicans who may have some responsibility in the matter, as they turned down the administration’s request for nearly $300 million for embassy security:
...
CAP senior fellow and budget expert Scott Lilly noted last month that in the last two years, Congress has cut the Obama administration’s request for funding to increase diplomatic staffing and boost embassy security:

479 The Ghost of a Flea  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:52:23am

re: #473 HappyWarrior

Why he has any credibility is beyond me when he goes out of his way to post stuff he knows damn well is false.

Is there an indication that either his readers or the people that link to him value credibility in the slightest?

He's on their team, and his lies are useful lies.

480 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:52:26am

re: #474 lawhawk

I think I posted something about that a few weeks back. That oil prices plunged as a result of global demand slacking due to the deep recession, and that prices began resuming an upward trend as demand began picking up both here in the US and China.

It was a very brief, dramatic plunge, and then resumed marching upward, but prior to that anomaly gas prices were pretty much the same as they are now.

481 Sionainn  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:53:41am
482 Kragar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:54:22am

re: #475 wrenchwench

re: #465 Kragar

Now aren't you sorry you said 'bite', ggt?

Not regular spiders mind you. Giant invisible flesh eating spiders which can tear out a persons tongue, then implant themselves in the persons throat and use them as hosts.

Big fun.

483 HappyWarrior  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:55:00am

re: #479 The Ghost of a Flea

Is there an indication that either his readers or the people that link to him value credibility in the slightest?

He's on their team, and his lies are useful lies.

And there in lies the problem with politics becoming akin to a sport.

484 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:55:11am
485 HappyWarrior  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:55:32am

re: #478 Kragar

Pelosi Attacks Republicans For Withholding Embassy Security Funding

Typical House Republicans. Glad Pelosi is going at them hard for this. Maybe if they weren't so obsessed with tax cuts and budget cuts.

486 ShaunP  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:56:47am

re: #466 Sheila Broflovski

Is there any place online that gives a good explanation for the brief gas price plunge in 2008, which all the wingnuts are now claiming was the "normal" price of gas before Obama was elected?

From October 2008:

Commodities: U.S. light crude oil for November delivery settled down $5.43 to $66.75 a barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange, a 16-month low.

Oil prices have been dropping since crude peaked at an all-time high of $147.27 a barrel on July 11. But the decline has been a mix of speculators leaving the market and investors betting that a slowing global economy means weaker oil demand. As a result, the falling oil prices haven't helped stock investor sentiment much.

Gasoline prices fell another 3.1 cents overnight, to a national average of $2.858 a gallon, according to a survey of credit-card activity by motorist group AAA. It was the 35th consecutive day that prices have decreased. During that time, prices have fallen by nearly $1 a gallon.

A variety of oil services, metals and mining shares fell in tune with the drop in commodity prices. Dow components Chevron (CVX, Fortune 500), Exxon Mobil (XOM, Fortune 500) and Alcoa (AA, Fortune 500) all tumbled.

487 Eventual Carrion  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:56:48am

re: #446 Kragar

Tucker Carlson: ‘Throne-Sniffers’ In Media Dismissing Obama Vid As Old News

[snip]
... it’s a subversion of what journalism is supposed to be. It’s wrong.”

Yes you are Fuc .. er .. Tucker, yes you are.

488 wrenchwench  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:57:31am

re: #482 Kragar

Not regular spiders mind you. Giant invisible flesh eating spiders which can tear out a persons tongue, then implant themselves in the persons throat and use them as hosts.

Big fun.

So I shouldn't tell ggt to bite her tongue....

489 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:57:54am

re: #485 HappyWarrior

Typical House Republicans. Glad Pelosi is going at them hard for this.

You are buying her story that the consulate in Benghaz did not get more security because of the GOP?

490 HappyWarrior  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:57:59am

re: #487 Eventual Carrion

Yes you are Fuc .. er .. Tucker, yes you are.

He's a dumb fucker is what it is. The media already covered this speech when he made it in 2007 including some of the same media outlets who now act "outraged" that no one discussed it then.

491 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:58:12am

re: #478 Kragar

So this basically boils down to:

1) Admin asks for funds to help secure embassies etc.

2) Republicans in congress block said funding

3) Embassies attacked, ambassador dead republicans try to hold hearings to play politics with it.

I'd like to say I'm surprised but really, I can't it's the "whocuddaknowd" all over again.

492 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:59:08am

re: #464 Lidane

OK. This pisses me off:

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This was the victim in question:

So despite the fact that she's severely disabled and unable to communicate, AND has the mental capacity of a 3-year old, meaning she wouldn't have understood what was happening to her, somehow her rape wasn't legitimate because she didn't bite or kick or fight back enough?

What. The. FUCK.

We have some seriously fucked up standards in this country if a disabled woman's rapist is set free because she didn't resist enough.

If she was underage and had a father that didn't consent --what then?

It's ok, all is fair game for the predatory male --right?

/gah

493 Charles Johnson  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:59:26am

re: #478 Kragar

Pelosi Attacks Republicans For Withholding Embassy Security Funding

The Republican Party has been sabotaging absolutely everything the Democrats do. This comes as no surprise, and it shows once again that political power is more important to them than anything else.

494 HappyWarrior  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:59:38am

re: #489 NJDhockeyfan

You are buying her story that the consulate in Benghaz did not get more security because of the GOP?

I believe that the Congressional GOP fought increases in embassy security funding absolutely. Why shouldn't I when they fight a lot of other important things the WH wants out of bitter partisanship?

495 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:59:42am

re: #486 ShaunP

From October 2008:

Yeah, I posted the graph the other day. Some stupid thing going around my fb.

496 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 9:59:44am

re: #478 Kragar

"Lilly notes that more funding cuts for the U.S. Foreign Service are set to come under the sequestration required under the Budget Control Act. “Those cuts are largely the result of the draconian and unrealistically low budget caps placed by House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan (R-WI) on all discretionary spending,” Lilly said."

He needs to be hammered and hammered hard for this.

497 Charles Johnson  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 10:00:46am

re: #489 NJDhockeyfan

You are buying her story that the consulate in Benghaz did not get more security because of the GOP?

What did she say that was false? The GOP deliberately made huge cuts in appropriations for embassy security. Fact.

498 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 10:00:53am

re: #464 Lidane

OK. This pisses me off:

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This was the victim in question:

So despite the fact that she's severely disabled and unable to communicate, AND has the mental capacity of a 3-year old, meaning she wouldn't have understood what was happening to her, somehow her rape wasn't legitimate because she didn't bite or kick or fight back enough?

What. The. FUCK.

We have some seriously fucked up standards in this country if a disabled woman's rapist is set free because she didn't resist enough.

Lidane, I need this link . . .

499 darthstar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 10:01:17am

Kluwe puts another one through the uprights...

[Link: blogs.twincities.com...]

Problem the last – The only impact same-sex marriage will have on your children is if one of them turns out to be gay and cannot get married. What will you do (and I ask this honestly) if one or more of your kids ends up being gay? Will you love them any less? What will your actions speak to them, 15 years from now, when they ask you why they can’t enjoy the same relationship that you and your wife have now? And if your response is “We’ll cross that bridge when we come to it”, well, for a lot of people that bridge is here right now. They’re trying to cross it, but the way is barred, and I will do my best to tear those barricades down any way I can because I believe that we are infringing on the free will of other human beings by denying them their basic right to live free of oppression. I love my daughters for their minds and their personalities, not for who they love as adults. That’s none of my damn business, and I will support them in life no matter who they want to marry.

500 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 10:01:41am

re: #476 Sheila Broflovski

When all else fails, one extremist calls another extremist who may be slightly less violent a Zionist because he's not carrying out the long term war in the same fashion the other would. SS/DD

It's why you get the PLO factioning and splitting into ever smaller factions, including Fatah (the main and largest), PFLP, PRCs (a combination of violent terrorists from multiple terror groups who want more violence and war against Israel). Hamas and Hizbullah have similar pressures, and there's additional external pressure from their backers in Damascus and Tehran, to try and take the pressure off Assad. That would mean going and instigating actions against Israel (which would get more prominent coverage in international media than an ongoing civil war in Syria). Assad must be hoping something takes his ongoing brutality off the front pages - and this may be one of the reasons that report was being floated.

But there is a kernel of truth to what Tehran says. Palestinian leaders have and continue to sacrifice their fellow Palestinians for their own personal gain. The same goes to the other Middle Eastern countries (including Iran) for 65 years and counting. They use the suffering of Palestinians in refugee camps to further their own agendas rather than seek peace with Israel.

Hamas is in a curious and dangerous position - one that Israel could potentially exploit. Hamas has long been backed by Assad and Iran. With the ongoing fallout from the Syrian civil war, Hamas leaders who have openly questioned the civil war and Assad's methods, are opening up an opportunity for someone else to step in and fund their activities - Saudi Arabia, Gulf States, Egypt, etc. The switch could come with significant strings, including changing their stance on Israel. Just as money was used as bait to get Arafat to come to the table on Oslo, a new funding stream for Hamas in Gaza could work to the benefit of Palestinians and the peace process at large. Hamas lacks for funds and whatever funds do come in - only a fraction gets seen by the Palestinians living in Gaza. The situation is significantly better in the West Bank where the PA has civil administrative control and can disburse international funds. So, it's a remote chance, but it's better than the ongoing status quo for the Palestinians.

501 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 10:02:23am

re: #465 Kragar

This Book Is Full of Spiders: Seriously, Dude, Don't Touch It

*shiver*

I've been listening to short stories from the Podscat: Protecting Project Pulp. some serious shit here --one from Jack London that I'd never heard/read before.

502 danarchy  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 10:02:26am

re: #463 ggt

Well, the coffee didn't magically appear. Guess, I'll have to get off my ass and make another pot .

First world problems. Life sucks.

:)

Love the Keurig

503 HappyWarrior  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 10:02:37am

re: #499 darthstar

Kluwe puts another one through the uprights...

[Link: blogs.twincities.com...]

And people say athletes are dumb jocks. Seriously, he wrote that very well and made some good points.

504 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 10:02:57am

re: #502 danarchy

same here, best cup of coffee ever.

505 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 10:03:21am

re: #359 ggt

In my house they'd starve. I guess I'm just too much of a bitch. I hate to cook, so it's eat what I cook, make your own, or starve.

The inside joke in my family is to complain about food and then say "but good mind you!"

To explain:
My mother did co-op while in college. Few terms of classes and then a term or so spent working a job somewhere. Once such job term was working at a camp out in California where the counselors did their own cooking.

An agreement was reached early on was that anyone bitching about the food got to inherit the cooking job to see if they could do better. It resulted in "this food is blah blah blah, but good mind you!" Thus a family joke with more than 50 years of history is born.

506 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 10:03:42am

re: #468 erik_t

I'm profoundly unclear as to how someone with the mental capacity of a three year old is able to give informed consent in any circumstance whatsoever.

Discussions of resistance aren't even relevant.

It *should* be considered statutory rape, IMHO. Just like an underage person can't give their consent as they aren't mature enough to understand what they are consenting to.

507 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 10:04:15am

re: #361 Dark_Falcon

Well I'd say he's tried:

During my campaign for governor, I decided to spend a day every few weeks doing the jobs of other people in Massachusetts. Among other jobs, I cooked sausages at Fenway Park, worked on asphalt paving crew, stacked bales of hay on a farm, volunteered in an emergency room, served food at a nursing home, and worked as a child-care assistant. I’m often asked which was the hardest job – it’s child care, by a mile.

One day I gathered trash as a garbage collector. I stood on that little platform at the back of the truck, holding on as the driver navigated his way through the narrow streets of Boston. As we pulled up to traffic lights, I noticed that the shoppers and businesspeople who were standing only a few feet from me didn’t even see me. It was as if I was invisible. Perhaps it was because a lot of us don’t think garbage men are worthy of notice; I disagree – anyone who works that hard deserves our respect. – I wasn’t a particularly good garbage collector: at one point, after filling the trough at the back of the truck, I pulled the wrong hydraulic lever. Instead of pushing the load into the truck, I dumped it onto the street. Maybe the suits didn’t notice me, but the guys at the construction site sure did: “Nice job, Mitt,” they called. “Why don’t you find an easier job?” And then they good-naturedly came down and helped me pick up my mess.

Read the article for the source.

But Mitt doesn't want to talk about what he did as governor.
;P

508 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 10:04:15am

re: #497 Charles Johnson

What did she say that was false? The GOP deliberately made huge cuts in appropriations for embassy security. Fact.

Spending had to be cut somehow, and the State Department's budgets are a place from which cuts can be made.

509 Lidane  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 10:04:32am

re: #498 ggt

Lidane, I need this link . . .

[Link: thinkprogress.org...]

510 Lidane  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 10:05:17am

re: #508 Dark_Falcon

Spending had to be cut somehow, and the State Department's budgets are a place from which cuts can be made.

Because cutting embassy security is a good idea. Really.

511 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 10:05:18am

re: #483 HappyWarrior

And there in lies the problem with politics becoming akin to a sport.

You said Akin. Them be a fighting Name, IMHO.

512 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 10:05:47am

re: #488 wrenchwench

So I shouldn't tell ggt to bite her tongue....

That would hurt, why would you even think that?

513 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 10:06:00am

re: #366 Sheila Broflovski

After 40 years of this person utterly refusing to eat certain delicious foods, all because his mother prepared them poorly, I give up, cook just what I like and let him fend for himself.

I've seen that. Friend of mine wouldn't eat fish for years and years due to that. And he didn't understand why I would eat fish with such relish when we went out. So he opted to try what I was eating one day and has been eating fish ever since.

514 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 10:06:52am

re: #510 Lidane

Because cutting embassy security is a good idea. Really.

Better to close an embassy or two than to go bankrupt.

515 HappyWarrior  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 10:07:11am

re: #511 ggt

You said Akin. Them be a fighting Name, IMHO.

Ha, I need coffee so bad.

516 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 10:07:23am

re: #514 Dark_Falcon

or in this case, better to have an ambassador killed than go bankrupt?

517 Kragar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 10:07:53am

Pam's Subway commercial made it into a Cracked article under the heading of "Believing in Monsters Gives Us an Excuse to Be Dicks"

5 Reasons Humanity Desperately Wants Monsters to Be Real

518 danarchy  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 10:08:23am

re: #504 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

same here, best cup of coffee ever.

Not sure I would go that far. I have some friends who are total coffee snobs who blend and roast their own beans and have elaborate and expensive brewing set ups that I must admit make a damn fine cup of coffee. But first thing in the morning I am lucky if I remember to put a coffee cup under the spigot before starting the keurig, anything more complicated and I'd probably injure myself.

519 Lidane  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 10:08:33am

re: #514 Dark_Falcon

Better to close an embassy or two than to go bankrupt.

Here's a thought -- how about cutting a few of those bloated, obsolete defense contracts that the Pentagon keeps saying they don't need and don't want? We could save money AND still secure our embassies.

520 HappyWarrior  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 10:08:54am

re: #514 Dark_Falcon

Better to close an embassy or two than to go bankrupt.

We could have cut wasteful spending in other places too. You're acting like it was either cut the embassy security funding or go bankrupt. That's false. Why cut embassy security spending?

521 Kragar  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 10:09:14am

re: #514 Dark_Falcon

Better to close an embassy or two than to go bankrupt.

Yeah, got to protect those tax breaks for oil companies first.

522 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 10:09:17am

re: #497 Charles Johnson

What did she say that was false? The GOP deliberately made huge cuts in appropriations for embassy security. Fact.

That has nothing to do with the amount of security in Benghazi before the attacks. It's coming out now that we were warned of a threat of an attack on the consulate days before and there was no increase in security. The Republicans do not make those decisions. The next thing Pelosi will claim is since the FBI still hasn't been allowed in to Libya it is the GOP fault for that too.

523 HappyWarrior  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 10:10:39am

re: #521 Kragar

Yeah, got to protect those tax breaks for oil companies first.

Tax Cuts above all else. Stupid, stupid policy. It's why the Republicans deserve to lose their majority in the House.

524 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 10:10:53am

re: #513 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

I've seen that. Friend of mine wouldn't eat fish for years and years due to that. And he didn't understand why I would eat fish with such relish when we went out. So he opted to try what I was eating one day and has been eating fish ever since.

The person that I am referring to refused to eat fish because his mother used to cook fish to freaking death and the house filled up with disgusting burnt fish stink.

His mother also used to cook broccoli, cauliflower, and other cruciferous vegetables to freaking death and fill the house with that stench also.

For that reason he refuses to eat my grilled salmon with teriyaki sauce.

525 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 10:11:22am

re: #519 Lidane

Here's a thought -- how about cutting a few of those bloated, obsolete defense contracts that the Pentagon keeps saying they don't need and don't want? We could save money AND still secure our embassies.

Because those contracts pump money back into the campaign accounts of congresspeople and senators. Then when they leave Congress, those same companies hire them as lobbyists and pay them more money.

That's why not, and it's not a good thing.

526 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 10:12:19am

re: #464 Lidane

Prosecutors had to show that the victim was physically helpless, and the defendant claimed that they had not met that burden.

It would seem to me that someone who is mentally incapacitated and has the functional intelligence of a 3 year old would be physically helpless to understand what was going on.

Criminal; Sexual Assault; Whether State Presented Sufficient Evidence that Disabled Complainant was Physically Helpless as Defined by General Statutes § 53a-65 (6). The defendant was convicted of attempted sexual assault in the second degree in violation of General Statutes §§ 53a-49 (a) and 53a-71 (3) and sexual assault in the fourth degree in violation of General Statutes (Rev. to 2005) § 53a-73a (a) (1) (C) in connection with allegations that he sexually assaulted a twenty-five year old woman with significant disabilities. She has cerebral palsy, mental retardation and hydrocephalus. Both crimes require the state to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the alleged victim was "physically helpless" as defined by General Statutes § 53a-65 (6); that is, that the victim was "unconscious or for any other reason [was] physically unable to communicate unwillingness to an act." The defendant appealed, claiming that his convictions should be overturned because the state had not met its burden of proving that the complainant was physically helpless. The Appellate Court (118 Conn. App. 43) noted that, while the complainant's disabilities rendered her unable to communicate verbally, she could communicate by gesturing and vocalizing and through the use of a communication board, and that witnesses testified that she could indicate her displeasure by means of gestures, physical aggression - including biting, kicking and scratching - and by making screeching and groaning sounds. The court concluded that, given the uncontradicted evidence presented at trial that the complainant could communicate using these nonverbal methods and the state's failure to show that she was unable to use such forms of communication at the time of the alleged assault, no reasonable jury could have concluded that she was physically helpless at the time of the assault. The Appellate Court accordingly reversed the judgment and remanded with direction to render judgment of not guilty. The Supreme Court granted the state's petition for certification to appeal and will consider whether the Appellate Court improperly substituted its judgment for that of the jury when it determined that the evidence was insufficient to prove that the complainant was physically helpless as defined by § 53a-65 (6).

BTW, procedurally, TP got this wrong. The Appellate Court overturned the trial court verdict as wrong, and found that the prosecutors didn't meet their burden of proof. The state Supreme Court has upheld the lower court's ruling after the prosecutors appealed.

Either way though, the appellate and supreme court got it wrong, and it points out a problem with how the law is written or prosecutors presented the case.

527 Charles Johnson  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 10:12:23am

re: #522 NJDhockeyfan

It's coming out now that we were warned of a threat of an attack on the consulate days before and there was no increase in security.

That's false. Another bullshit right wing talking point.

528 Gus  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 10:12:30am

Here's an idea. Maybe Nancy Pelosi wouldn't have said anything if the Republicans just kept their fucking big mouths shut about what happened in Benghazi in order to use to gain political capital with low information voters.

529 HappyWarrior  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 10:12:52am

re: #528 Gus

Here's an idea. Maybe Nancy Pelosi wouldn't have said anything if the Republicans just kept their fucking big mouths shut about what happened in Benghazi in order to use to gain political capital with low information voters.

There is that too.

530 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 10:15:04am

re: #453 Someone Please Beam Me Up!

When my cat was losing too much weight (not a problem with current feline!), the vet gave me some special food, made to be very fattening and very delicious. You might try that.

Might have to experiment a bit to see if I can hit a combo that he likes and also can keep down. He got some cooked hamburger (with a whiff of cheese on it) - yes, he haz cheezburger! Problem is that he threw it up about two hours later. A bit too rich or different from his current diet.

He gets a can of "people" tuna fish every week. That helps get some additional oils in him to help with digestion and his coat. Most fattening thing I have readily on hand that I expect he'd like is bacon grease.

531 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 10:15:55am

re: #527 Charles Johnson

That's false. Another bullshit right wing talking point.

Embassies and consulates live in a constant stream of local and worldwide security alerts. If they're serious, the scaled procedures for voluntary, then non-essential, then mandatory travel restrictions and evacuation are executed.

532 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 10:20:06am

Here is one of the charts I found showing the price of gas since 2005. There was a better one from the 1990's from a government website, but I can't find it now.

533 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 10:20:28am

re: #527 Charles Johnson

That's false. Another bullshit right wing talking point.

Reuters is reporting it.

WASHINGTON, Oct 2 (Reuters) - U.S. officials in Washington denied repeated requests from Americans in Libya for more security at the U.S. mission in Benghazi before last month's attack that killed four Americans there, two Republican lawmakers said on Tuesday.

U.S. Representatives Darrell Issa and Jason Chaffetz wrote a letter to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton demanding details of the requests for more security - which they said were made amid numerous attacks on Westerners in Libya in recent months.

They said the House of Representatives Oversight and Government Reform Committee will hold an Oct. 10 hearing on the security situation leading up to the Benghazi attack on Sept. 11.

Clinton responded later on Tuesday with a letter to the lawmakers saying the State Department would collaborate with the committee.

The truth will come out during the hearings.

534 Lidane  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 10:21:27am

Mitt Romney’s remarks decrying about half of Americans as “victims” are hurting him with at least as many voters, according to a mounting body of evidence.

The latest WSJ/NBC poll read respondents his comments and found 45 percent felt more negatively towards Romney afterwards versus only 23 percent who felt more positive about him. Even worse, the 12 percent slice of voters NBC defines as “up for grabs” had the strongest reaction. Just 10 percent approved of the remarks versus a whopping 49 percent who said the comments diminished their opinion of Romney.

535 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 10:23:16am

re: #524 Sheila Broflovski

The person that I am referring to refused to eat fish because his mother used to cook fish to freaking death and the house filled up with disgusting burnt fish stink.

His mother also used to cook broccoli, cauliflower, and other cruciferous vegetables to freaking death and fill the house with that stench also.

For that reason he refuses to eat my grilled salmon with teriyaki sauce.

Oh, his mother was from England! That explains it.
j/k ;)

536 wrenchwench  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 10:24:39am

re: #533 NJDhockeyfan

Reuters is reporting it.

The truth will come out during the hearings.

If Fast and Furious is any indication, Darrell Issa will continue spouting falsities way after the truth comes out in the hearings.

537 Gus  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 10:24:48am

re: #533 NJDhockeyfan

Reuters is reporting it.

The truth will come out during the hearings.

All that does is repeat some bullshit uttered by wingnuts Darrell Issa and Jason Chaffetz.

Issa and Chaffetz said the violence was the "latest in a long line of attacks on Western diplomats and officials in Libya in the months leading up to" the assault.

Unarmed Libyan guards employed at the U.S. Benghazi mission were warned by their family members to quit their jobs in the weeks before the assault, "because there were rumors in the community of an impending attack," they said.

538 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 10:27:16am

re: #509 Lidane

[Link: thinkprogress.org...]

So, I'm guessing child molestation and date-rape drugs are also legal in Connecticut? And if the disabled rape victim were impregnanted, he'd obviously have more right to custody of the child--right?

FUCK THIS SHIT.

539 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 10:27:28am

re: #537 Gus

All that does is repeat some bullshit uttered by wingnuts Darrell Issa and Jason Chaffetz.

It will all come out during the hearings. Lets hope there is nothing because if there is it will be an extreme embarrassment to say the least.

You all have a great day...off to work.

540 HappyWarrior  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 10:27:47am

re: #536 wrenchwench

If Fast and Furious is any indication, Darrell Issa will continue spouting falsities way after the truth comes out in the hearings.

Yeah when I think "conducts investigations in an even-handed and professional matter", I think of Darrell Issa.

541 Charles Johnson  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 10:28:00am

re: #533 NJDhockeyfan

Reuters is reporting it.

The truth will come out during the hearings.

You said there was specific warning of an attack. The Reuters article says the embassy requested additional security, and makes no mention at all of a specific attack warning.

The claim that there was a specific warning is false.

542 Eventual Carrion  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 10:30:53am

re: #508 Dark_Falcon

Spending had to be cut somehow, and the State Department's budgets are a place from which cuts can be made.

And then bitch about the consequences of those cuts for political gain.

543 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 10:41:54am

re: #504 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

same here, best cup of coffee ever.

Image: French_press.jpg
/begtodiffer

544 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 10:45:26am

Have a great afternoon all!

545 Kronocide  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 10:54:25am

re: #510 Lidane

Because cutting embassy security is a good idea. Really.

I think the idea was to cut embassy security then hammer the President for it when somebody died.

I don't think the GOP did this on purpose. I think they're that fucking stupid and petty to blame it on the Prez when their actions had negative consequences. Actually, this seems to be a fact.

546 Kronocide  Wed, Oct 3, 2012 10:56:29am

re: #522 NJDhockeyfan

That has nothing to do with the amount of security in Benghazi before the attacks. It's coming out now that we were warned of a threat of an attack on the consulate days before and there was no increase in security. The Republicans do not make those decisions. The next thing Pelosi will claim is since the FBI still hasn't been allowed in to Libya it is the GOP fault for that too.

It has everything to do with security in Bengazi because they have an embassy there.


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