1 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 3:19:08pm

Just discovered how to use the nifty little Linux tool 'jpegtran' to strip all the metadata out of any images you upload to LGF, without changing the image quality at all. jpegtran does a lossless transformation. It can also rotate and flip images in a limited kind of way, but I'm only using it to strip out all the extra JPEG metadata headers which can include stuff like your location, your name, the date you took the picture, etc., depending on the camera you took it with.

2 Obdicut  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 3:22:57pm

George Will and other people like him do a great job of demonstrating their privilege every time they talk.

Ta-Nehisi Coates can write rings around him.

3 dragonfire1981  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 3:23:09pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

But I thought progressives didn't care about privacy!

/

4 danarchy  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 3:26:09pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

Just discovered how to use the nifty little Linux tool 'jpegtran' to strip all the metadata out of any images you upload to LGF, without changing the image quality at all. jpegtran does a lossless transformation. It can also rotate and flip images in a limited kind of way, but I'm only using it to strip out all the extra JPEG metadata headers which can include stuff like your location, your name, the date you took the picture, etc., depending on the camera you took it with.

That's awesome. Now if people would just stop tagging me on G+ and facebook when I am doing something stupid at a party...

5 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 3:27:07pm

re: #3 dragonfire1981

Yep, I'm trying to head off the situation where a person doesn't even know the metadata is there, and uploads a photo for a Page.

Would anyone actually want to leave the metadata in there for uploaded files? I could create an option to do that if anyone's interested. Seems like the best default behavior though is to strip it out.

6 Kragar  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 3:27:48pm

Minority students attacked with ‘bleach bombs’ in Texas

-University of Texas students marched through the streets of West Campus protesting a string of possible hate crimes.

"A bleach-bomb fell and hit me, my roommate; well almost hit us. It barely missed us," student Jaysen Runnels said. "It's very frustrating to know that it's 2012 and that stuff like this still happens."

Not everyone is convinced the incidents having anything to do with race. Some students said the recent reports of balloons full of bleach being thrown from balconies at black, Hispanic and Asian students, are just pranks.

"I have seen it happening for the past three years, all the time," student Sophie Weiner said.

"I see it from my balcony," Pete Desai said. "I think it is just who ever happens to walk by at the time."

"I don’t know. My friend said they had gotten a banana thrown at them and someone said they had a water balloon with bleach thrown at them one time," student Mackenzie Drake.

7 Amory Blaine  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 3:29:33pm

If corporations don't pay the 35% "rate" that's in place now, how are they going to pay the 25% rate proposed by both candidates.

8 Ghost of Tom Joad  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 3:30:31pm

Colbert and his writers are pure genius. There's just no other way to state it.

9 Ghost of Tom Joad  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 3:34:16pm

re: #7 Amory Blaine

If corporations don't pay the 35% "rate" that's in place now, how are they going to pay the 25% rate proposed by both candidates.

(fixed), but everybody knows they don't pay that rate. Well, especially the wealthier "job creators." When the candidates say 25%, you can really just translate it into a 10% cut of whatever number they're paying now.

Of course, if you're a company like GE, it's another 10% boost in profit!
GE and its smart tax lawyers

10 Amory Blaine  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 3:36:29pm

re: #7 Amory Blaine

If corporations don't pay the 35% "rate" that's in place now, how are they going to pay the 25% rate proposed by both candidates.

That's my point. Both candidates are just giving another giant tax break to the rich. How about punishing those that leave instead? Fuck their delicate sensibilities.

(thanks for the heads up) Link fixed.

11 erik_t  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 3:37:52pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

Would anyone actually want to leave the metadata in there for uploaded files? I could create an option to do that if anyone's interested. Seems like the best default behavior though is to strip it out.

Can you leave some but not all? Photography nerds often find camera type insightful.

No biggie, though.

12 darthstar  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 3:38:13pm

You know, for someone who 'lost' the debate last night, President Obama didn't do too bad with Independents.

13 Amory Blaine  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 3:40:04pm

No fact checking the Romney lies from last night on ABC World News. Just another Romney tongue bath about how he "won". Yeah he won, he's been given a free fucking pass since he won the primary.

14 darthstar  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 3:41:04pm

re: #13 Amory Blaine

No fact checking the Romney lies from last night on ABC World News. Just another Romney tongue bath about how he "won". Yeah he won, he's been given a free fucking pass since he won the primary.

Romney's a special needs candidate...his wife has MS for pete's sake!

15 jaunte  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 3:41:12pm
16 Ghost of Tom Joad  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 3:41:57pm

re: #10 Amory Blaine

No problem.

The U.S. both taxes its corporations less and raises less in revenue from corporate taxes than its foreign competitors:

That pretty much sums it up. A tax rate in this country is virtually meaningless because there are countless ways to lessen that percentage, especially as more and more money becomes involved. When you're a wealthy person or corporation (or the same thing according to Mitt), you can also afford lawyers who will find secret, lucrative, law-avoiding methods to pay less. And when it comes time to defend it, they explain it in some form of Klingon legalese that almost no human can understand.

17 nines09  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 3:44:45pm

I just figured out where Mitt Romney is today. He desperately trying to find his ass. Seems he lied it off last night.

18 JamesWI  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 3:45:06pm

Romney gains after debate ... with Republicans (Obama with independents)

Yes, it's from the HORRIBLE Daily Kos, so I know KT won't read it. But the rest of you can click through to see the stats from the Reuters/Ipsos post-debate poll.

Barack Obama's favorability among all voters pre-debate - 54/46
Obama's favorability among all voters post-debate - 54/46

Obama's favorability among independents pre-debate - 46/54
Obama's favorability among independents post-debate 54/46

Romney's stats among independents remained unchanged - 44/56 before and after.
Where Romney made up ground was with Republicans, where he went from 85/15 to 90/10.
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In other words, despite the fact that he raced to the center and abandoned all his far-right ideas, Romney somehow strengthened his base while doing absolutely nothing for the independents.

GAME CHANGER! Republicans are going to vote for Romney!! It's all over now!

19 Amory Blaine  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 3:45:07pm

So is the data stripping automatic or is there an inside method we have to follow?

Thanks for this feature.

20 jaunte  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 3:46:54pm

Romney Told 27 Myths in 35 Minutes

Pundits from both sides of the aisle have lauded Mitt Romney’s strong debate performance, praising his preparedness and ability to challenge President Obama’s policies and accomplishments. But Romney only accomplished this goal by repeatedly misleading viewers. He spoke for 38 minutes of the 90 minute debate and told at least 27 myths:

21 HappyWarrior  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 3:47:31pm

re: #12 darthstar

You know, for someone who 'lost' the debate last night, President Obama didn't do too bad with Independents.

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I guess they thought Obama came off as more presidential last night and saw through Romney's lies.

22 darthstar  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 3:48:30pm

re: #21 HappyWarrior

I guess they thought Obama came off as more presidential last night and saw through Romney's lies.

Damn critical thinkers.

23 Bubblehead II  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 3:51:07pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

I'm not to worried about metadata tags on any pictures I may upload, but then again, the camera I uses doesn't really have all that much to begin with. Mainly the resolution, Date Time and the camera make/model #/specs. But I can see why you would like to strip it anyway and I appreciate your willingness to go a step beyond to insure the Lizards Nations privacy.

24 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 3:52:44pm

re: #2 Sheeplord

George Will and other people like him do a great job of demonstrating their privilege every time they talk.

Ta-Nehisi Coates can write rings around him.

Well yes, but Coates has a gift. He's a true intellectual, not the silly pretentious kind. One of those people who makes you feel smarter when you read his work.

Not everyone can be Ta-Nehisi Coates.

25 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 3:54:39pm

re: #18 JamesWI

GAME CHANGER! Republicans are going to vote for Romney!! It's all over now!

I hope not, but it's possible that registered Republicans who had dismissed him as a dysfunctional candidate, and decided to stay home or vote for Obama, may reconsider. That could boost him in some important places.

26 Mich-again  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 3:55:16pm

Re corporate tax breaks and job creation...

In 2011 corporations enjoyed a tax break called bonus depreciation that was part of the stimulus package signed into law in 2010.

Under bonus depreciation, companies could write off an entire amount of a capital investment made in 2011 instead of having to spread the depreciation out over 7 years or more.

And it worked as intended. Companies used the bonus depreciation to their benefit to pay far less taxes than they would have otherwise. This program contributed to the deficit for 2011. And corporate profits in 2011 were the highest on record, period. The best year ever for corporate profits.

So did all the job creation we were assured actually materialize from the year of bonus depreciation? Ask the GOP and they'll tell you hells no!

SO clearly their answer to lack of job creation is lower taxes still. If the medicine doesn't work, increase the dosage!

27 Killgore Trout  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 3:55:32pm

re: #18 JamesWI

Of course Kos selects out the sections he thinks will advance his agenda. If you look at the actual poll ([Link: www.ipsos-na.com...]
You'll find things like 20% independents are view Mitt more positively after the debate as opposed to 9% for Obama. 43% of indies thought Mitt won, 20% thought Obama won. Mitt won the debate but it might not be enough for him to close the gap.

28 Ghost of Tom Joad  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 3:56:06pm

re: #24 SanFranciscoZionist

I can't remember the name of the article, it was something about being black in America...something to do with a visit to Gettysburg...I can look it up, but it really was an amazing read.

29 erik_t  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 3:59:36pm

re: #27 Killgore Trout

You'll find things like 20% independents are view Mitt more positively after the debate as opposed to 9% for Obama.

Someone who had higher initial positives is always likely to make smaller gains. Duh.

30 Targetpractice  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:00:12pm

re: #26 Mich-again

Re corporate tax breaks and job creation...

In 2011 corporations enjoyed a tax break called bonus depreciation that was part of the stimulus package signed into law in 2010.

Under bonus depreciation, companies could write off an entire amount of a capital investment made in 2011 instead of having to spread the depreciation out over 7 years or more.

And it worked as intended. Companies used the bonus depreciation to their benefit to pay far less taxes than they would have otherwise. This program contributed to the deficit for 2011. And corporate profits in 2011 were the highest on record, period. The best year ever for corporate profits.

So did all the job creation we were assured actually materialize from the year of bonus depreciation? Ask the GOP and they'll tell you hells no!

SO clearly their answer to lack of job creation is lower taxes still. If the medicine doesn't work, increase the dosage!

Well you know, Obama didn't create a "business friendly" environment and interfered in the "free market," preventing it from recovering properly. But with a Republican in the White House, we can be sure that the "free market" will get over its "uncertainty" and start adding all sorts of jobs again.

///

31 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:01:20pm

re: #29 erik_t

Someone who had higher initial positives is always likely to make smaller gains. Duh.

Be careful or you'll harsh his concern.

32 Kragar  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:01:57pm

Mo. Rep. Akin failed to report state pension

Republican Senate candidate Todd Akin on Thursday released a decade's worth of federal financial reports he has updated with nearly $130,000 in state pension income that he received, but failed to disclose, over that time.

"This was an unintentional oversight and I regret any inconvenience this may cause," the Missouri congressman wrote in a letter dated Tuesday to the chairman of the House Ethics Committee.

33 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:02:35pm

By the way, I've actually always been stripping out the metadata, but when I began writing the Image Library code I discovered that the Linux tool I was using to strip the metadata was also resaving the JPEG at a lower quality. (That tool was called 'jhead'.)

That's why I was glad to discover jpegtran - it does the same metadata removal without messing up the image quality.

34 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:03:59pm

re: #32 Kragar

Mo. Rep. Akin failed to report state pension

That is the LEAST of my concerns about Mr. Akin.

35 JamesWI  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:04:19pm

re: #27 Killgore Trout

Of course Kos selects out the sections he thinks will advance his agenda. If you look at the actual poll ([Link: www.ipsos-na.com...]
You'll find things like 20% independents are view Mitt more positively after the debate as opposed to 9% for Obama. 43% of indies thought Mitt won, 20% thought Obama won. Mitt won the debate but it might not be enough for him to close the gap.

I looked at the actual poll, the stats you list are there. But although they say they viewed Mitt more favorably after the debate, those numbers didn't translate over when they were asked HOW they view Mitt Romney. In the end, those numbers stayed almost exactly the same.

In other words, people said they viewed him more favorably afterwards, but only enough for those people to view him as "leaning unfavorable" as opposed to "somewhat unfavorable."

In the end, his unfavorables stayed the same. The only thing that changed was the intensity with which people view him that way.

36 allegro  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:04:48pm

re: #18 JamesWI

In other words, despite the fact that he raced to the center and abandoned all his far-right ideas, Romney somehow strengthened his base while doing absolutely nothing for the independents.

That makes quite an interesting case study, doesn't it? He denied his platform and his "severely conservative" persona so whatever he told them last week is now "nevermind"... and they like him more? I thought he wasn't conservative enough before? Wasn't that their complaint?

I gots a headache now.

37 Mich-again  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:07:31pm

re: #32 Kragar

Mo. Rep. Akin failed to report state pension

I hope he paid the fines and interest too.

38 JamesWI  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:10:46pm

re: #35 JamesWI

I looked at the actual poll, the stats you list are there. But although they say they viewed Mitt more favorably after the debate, those numbers didn't translate over when they were asked HOW they view Mitt Romney. In the end, those numbers stayed almost exactly the same.

In other words, people said they viewed him more favorably afterwards, but only enough for those people to view him as "leaning unfavorable" as opposed to "somewhat unfavorable."

In the end, his unfavorables stayed the same. The only thing that changed was the intensity with which people view him that way.

I didn't say that very eloquently or succinctly. Let me try it again, in a simpler fashion:

Essentially, the independents polled said "We still dislike the man, we just don't hate him as much as we did before."

Not exactly the MONUMENTAL VICTORY the press is trying to sell.

39 Kragar  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:11:51pm

Maine GOP attacks Democratic candidate for playing World of Warcraft

The Republican Party of Maine is sending out mailers warning that Democratic state Senate candidate Colleen Lachowicz is a high-level Orc Assassin.

The mailers highlight Lachowicz’s online comments regarding her character in the massive online multiplayer game World of Warcraft, claiming she gets away with “crude, vicious and violent comments” in her online fantasy world. The Maine GOP also created a website, colleensworld.com, which showcases many of her comments about the popular role-playing game.

“So I’m a level 68 orc rogue girl. That means I stab things… a lot. Who would have thought that a peace-lovin’, social worker and democrat would enjoy that,” Lachowicz is quoted as saying in one of the GOP mailers. In another GOP mailer, Lachowicz says that she loves “poisoning and stabbing.”

40 engineer cat  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:12:20pm

it's 4:12pm - has rush limbaugh declared the election over yet?

41 HappyWarrior  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:12:35pm

re: #39 Kragar

Maine GOP attacks Democratic candidate for playing World of Warcraft

Haha I saw that one earlier on google news. I don't even need the words to describe how pathetic that is.

42 JamesWI  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:12:39pm

re: #39 Kragar

Maine GOP attacks Democratic candidate for playing World of Warcraft

Wow, not from the Onion. I was convinced it was before looking at the link.

43 engineer cat  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:14:37pm

The Republican Party of Maine is sending out mailers warning that Democratic state Senate candidate Colleen Lachowicz is a high-level Orc Assassin.


Romney Wins Presidential Election In Second Life

bad news is that he will now have to undergo trial by fire supervised by red eyed orcs in the center of a volcano in mordor

44 Targetpractice  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:15:20pm

re: #39 Kragar

Maine GOP attacks Democratic candidate for playing World of Warcraft

Hell, now I know I can never run for public office. People would find out that I absolutely suck at Counter-Strike.

//

45 HappyWarrior  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:15:47pm

A high level orc assassin? So what's her position on endangered dragons?

46 HappyWarrior  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:16:41pm

re: #44 Targetpractice

Hell, now I know I can never run for public office. People would find out that I absolutely suck at Counter-Strike.

//

People would find out that I was a Nazi because I occasionally played as the Axis in Medal of Honor: Allied Assault and shoot in that nearly as bad as I do in real life.

47 Targetpractice  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:17:37pm

re: #46 HappyWarrior

People would find out that I was a Nazi because I occasionally played as the Axis in Medal of Honor: Allied Assault and shoot in that nearly as bad as I do in real life.

I beat the world as France in a game of Civilization last week. Now I can never be president.

//

48 The Questionable Timing of a Flea  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:17:49pm

re: #44 Targetpractice

Hell, now I know I can never run for public office. People would find out that I absolutely suck at Counter-Strike.

//

On Civ 5 I play Pachacuti of the Incas rather than George Washington. I think that's like treason or something.

49 Kragar  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:18:28pm

re: #46 HappyWarrior

People would find out that I was a Nazi because I occasionally played as the Axis in Medal of Honor: Allied Assault and shoot in that nearly as bad as I do in real life.

Kragar is a Khajit thief/illusionist with ties to Riften Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood. SCANDAL!

50 Obdicut  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:18:30pm

re: #48 The Ghost of a Flea

On Civ 5 I play Pachacuti of the Incas rather than George Washington. I think that's like treason or something.

I have destroyed America several times over.

51 HappyWarrior  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:18:37pm

re: #47 Targetpractice

I beat the world as France in a game of Civilization last week. Now I can never be president.

//

Of course it does surrender monkey.

52 HappyWarrior  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:19:21pm

I burned people in GTA for fun. I'm no better than Bin Laden.

53 Amory Blaine  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:19:36pm

My maternal sympathies would sink my candidacy as I have a female priest. (plus all the baggage of the spells, potions, devil worship etc.)

54 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:19:43pm

You bunch are probably all anti-veteran as well. You probably kill guards in Skyrim who are there simply for taking an arrow to the knee.
///

55 erik_t  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:19:50pm

re: #50 Sheeplord

I have destroyed America several times over.

Hey, it's not my fault that the Soviets are the ones with the cool toys like Tesla Coils and Mammoth Tanks.

56 Kragar  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:19:51pm

re: #47 Targetpractice

I beat the world as France in a game of Civilization last week. Now I can never be president.

//

Started playing last night, had to go with Caesar because I always play as the Romans.

57 The Questionable Timing of a Flea  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:20:08pm

Close investigation of my personal history will demonstrate that I once played a Neutral Evil Half-Orc druid in tabletop D&D.

Unfit for office!

58 HappyWarrior  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:21:16pm

I killed the Vice President of the United States in Hitman Blood Money and his little dog too!

59 Kragar  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:21:24pm

re: #54 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

You bunch are probably all anti-veteran as well. You probably kill guards in Skyrim who are there simply for taking an arrow to the knee.
///

I can say that using a high level pickpocketer to make every guard in a hold walk around in a loincloth is highly amusing.

60 Amory Blaine  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:21:35pm

Like the 80s all over again. Where's Zappa when you need him?

61 Targetpractice  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:21:36pm

re: #56 Kragar

Started playing last night, had to go with Caesar because I always play as the Romans.

Well, I played Washington for the Space Victory, Catherine for the Diplomacy Victory, and just finished France the other day for Culture Victory. Thinking either Caesar or Bismarck for the Domination Victory.

62 Kragar  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:22:38pm

re: #57 The Ghost of a Flea

Close investigation of my personal history will demonstrate that I once played a Neutral Evil Half-Orc druid in tabletop D&D.

Unfit for office!

Played a Lawful Evil Ranger/Rogue in d20.

There goes my Senate campaign.

63 erik_t  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:23:17pm

re: #62 Kragar

Played a Lawful Evil

But enough about Mitt's taxes.

64 danarchy  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:23:23pm

re: #39 Kragar

Maine GOP attacks Democratic candidate for playing World of Warcraft

Being a recovering WoW addict the only dis-qualifier in playing WoW is she may not have time to actually legislate ;)

Although if her toon is only level 68 she is obviously not a very hardcore player.

65 HappyWarrior  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:23:57pm

Killed the yarl for fun in Skyrim. Dismembered Easy Pete with a tire iron in Fallout New Vegas.

66 Kragar  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:24:03pm

re: #64 danarchy

Being a recovering WoW addict the only dis-qualifier in playing WoW is she may not have time to actually legislate ;)

Although if her toon is only level 68 she is obviously not a very hardcore player.

And if thats her only toon.

67 HappyWarrior  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:24:51pm

All joking around aside guys. I'm surprised this is happening in Maine of all places.

68 Obdicut  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:25:19pm

re: #61 Targetpractice

Well, I played Washington for the Space Victory, Catherine for the Diplomacy Victory, and just finished France the other day for Culture Victory. Thinking either Caesar or Bismarck for the Domination Victory.

Caesar is ridiculous easy if you time it right. You get both your great units at the same time. Getting the timing right, however: challenge.

Also, fuck Montezuma, that crazy bastard.

69 Targetpractice  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:25:29pm

re: #65 HappyWarrior

Killed the yarl for fun in Skyrim. Dismembered Easy Pete with a tire iron in Fallout New Vegas.

I nuked Megaton. Surprised they haven't tried me for war crimes.

//

70 Amory Blaine  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:25:54pm

If I was running for office, I would replace all the Chinese farmers with Americans!!! Grind for gold 2012!!!!

71 Targetpractice  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:26:13pm

re: #68 Sheeplord

Caesar is ridiculous easy if you time it right. You get both your great units at the same time. Getting the timing right, however: challenge.

Also, fuck Montezuma, that crazy bastard.

He's that way in every Civ game he shows up in. I remember many a Civ IV game where he kept trying to start a war every other turn.

72 Kragar  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:26:20pm

re: #65 HappyWarrior

Killed the yarl for fun in Skyrim. Dismembered Easy Pete with a tire iron in Fallout New Vegas.

Lured Manny out in front of the Dinosaur because fuck Novac, thats why.

73 HappyWarrior  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:27:39pm

I've placed countless C4 explosives on Genome Soldiers backs.

74 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:28:26pm

Barret Brown's bad day:

The 31-year-old Brown is charged with Internet threats, conspiracy to make publically available restricted personal information of a government employee and retaliation against a federal law enforcement officer.

Brown's attorney, Jay Leiderman, has said he believes some of the charges stem from a YouTube video in which Brown rails against law enforcement.

75 Obdicut  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:28:46pm

re: #72 Kragar

Lured Manny out in front of the Dinosaur because fuck Novac, thats why.

How hard is it for people to figure out that "Novac" is short for "no vacancy" and they shouldn't name their town after it?

Town of idiots.

76 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:29:20pm
77 Kragar  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:29:29pm

I'd hire henchmen, let them die, then use raise dead to have a free packmule for the party.

/Pool of Radiance FTW bitches

78 Targetpractice  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:29:38pm

re: #75 Sheeplord

How hard is it for people to figure out that "Novac" is short for "no vacancy" and they shouldn't name their town after it?

Town of idiots.

That's like asking what idiots set up their town around an unexploded nuclear bomb.

79 Amory Blaine  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:30:06pm

Nuh Uh! You don't want to piss of Elmo.

/shiver

80 Kragar  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:30:15pm

re: #74 goddamnedfrank

Barret Brown's bad day:

81 Schadenfreude 'r' Us  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:30:36pm

I often play magic users. Someone allied with Satan should never hold public office.

82 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:30:51pm
83 Bubblehead II  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:30:54pm

re: #39 Kragar

Hell, she should play it up to the max. Since the Republicans so love death and carnage (Iraq and Afghanistan). The only difference? WoW is fantasy. The other two are real life and the payment is real lives and real money.

84 Amory Blaine  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:31:43pm

Obama prolly said he's not interested in where Big Bird is.

85 OhNoZombies!  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:36:29pm

re: #84 Amory Blaine

Obama prolly said he's not interested in where Big Bird is.

Did he check under his desk?

86 JamesWI  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:38:54pm

So, other than Obama's sponsored trend, the only debate-related things I've seen in the top 10 on Twitter all day long have been.......PBS and Big Bird.

Yeah, I think the media just might be over-selling this "victory." Just a tad//

87 OhNoZombies!  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:44:02pm

I never thought I would see the day when James Lipton would be called on for political commentary.
I like him, but it seems...odd.

88 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:46:29pm

The Onion Voter's Guide To Mitt Romney

89 danarchy  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:48:53pm

re: #86 JamesWI

So, other than Obama's sponsored trend, the only debate-related things I've seen in the top 10 on Twitter all day long have been.......PBS and Big Bird.

Yeah, I think the media just might be over-selling this "victory." Just a tad//

Remember only about 15% of adults in the US use twitter and most of those are between the age of 18-29. It's a pretty self selected sample.

90 wrenchwench  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:50:49pm
91 dragonath  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:51:10pm

Yay, finally got my computer back!

Protip: Homebrew tube amps and computers don't always mix.

92 JamesWI  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:53:05pm
93 Obdicut  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:53:05pm

re: #89 danarchy

Remember only about 15% of adults in the US use twitter and most of those are between the age of 18-29. It's a pretty self selected sample.

Not most, no. The number of 18-29 is not more than the number of 30+ people who use it.

94 erik_t  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:56:05pm

re: #93 Sheeplord

Not most, no. The number of 18-29 is not more than the number of 30+ people who use it.

Almost an even distribution between 25 and 55, shockingly.

95 JamesWI  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:56:44pm

Paul Ryan on stage in VA, on CSPAN.

Man, what a dork.

96 allegro  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 4:59:44pm

re: #95 JamesWI

Paul Ryan on stage in VA, on CSPAN.

Man, what a dork.

Am I just not paying enough attention or has Ryan had a distinctly small footprint with regard to the election since Romney had to lead the crowd in chanting his name first?

97 nines09  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 5:01:07pm

re: #91 dragonath

What did you do?

98 JamesWI  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 5:01:32pm

Ryan just said the economy was better four years ago than it is now.

Yeah, Romney isn't alone when it comes to lying ability. At least Biden saw the debate last night and knows to prepare for someone who will literally lie about everything.

99 JamesWI  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 5:02:14pm

Romney coming to the stage now.

100 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 5:02:35pm

I thought when I "saved for web" on photoshop the metadata was removed --no?

if not , how do I remove the metadata?

how is everyone this evening?

101 nines09  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 5:02:53pm

re: #99 JamesWI

Romney coming to the stage now.

I know Ryans there but does he have his ass with him?

102 OhNoZombies!  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 5:02:57pm

re: #99 JamesWI

Romney coming to the stage now.

The music annoys me.

103 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 5:04:22pm

re: #95 JamesWI

Paul Ryan on stage in VA, on CSPAN.

Man, what a dork.

No shit, he looks like a cartoon character. They couldn't have picked a more evil looking person if they had horns and a tail.

104 OhNoZombies!  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 5:05:17pm

re: #103 ggt

No shit, he looks like a cartoon character. They couldn't have picked a more evil looking person if they had horns and a tail.

We call Ryan Gollum.
It's the eyes.

105 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 5:05:48pm
106 JamesWI  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 5:06:28pm

He's been talking about Obama ever since he got on stage. Not a single word about himself.

107 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 5:07:01pm

re: #104 Reverend Mother Ramallo

We call Ryan Gollum.
It's the eyes.

white, white skin, dark, dark hair, widows peak, red lips. I'm not thinking Gollum.

108 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 5:07:40pm

re: #106 JamesWI

He's been talking about Obama ever since he got on stage. Not a single word about himself.

In other words, he is saying: "Black guy, black guy, black guy, black guy."?

109 OhNoZombies!  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 5:09:25pm

re: #107 ggt

white, white skin, dark, dark hair, widows peak, red lips. I'm not thinking Gollum.

I was thinking in terms of how badly he wants that ring.

110 Ben G. Hazi  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 5:12:03pm

re: #107 ggt

white, white skin, dark, dark hair, widows peak, red lips. I'm not thinking Gollum.

Dracula?

111 Gus  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 5:14:57pm

re: #98 JamesWI

Ryan just said the economy was better four years ago than it is now.

Yeah, Romney isn't alone when it comes to lying ability. At least Biden saw the debate last night and knows to prepare for someone who will literally lie about everything.

Ha! 4 years ago. What a freaking asshole. This is four years ago...

Bailout is law
President Bush signs historic $700 billion plan aimed at stemming credit crisis.

Vertigo on Wall Street
Volatile Dow plunges as much as 697 points, rises as much as 322, as panicky investors try to find their footing.

112 OhNoZombies!  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 5:15:30pm

Mitt Romney has mastered the art of using a whole lot of words to say absolutely nothing.

113 nines09  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 5:15:37pm
114 Varek Raith  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 5:21:40pm

re: #98 JamesWI

Ryan just said the economy was better four years ago than it is now.

Yeah, Romney isn't alone when it comes to lying ability. At least Biden saw the debate last night and knows to prepare for someone who will literally lie about everything.

Say what?

115 Gus  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 5:22:14pm
116 Gus  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 5:23:56pm
117 PhillyPretzel  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 5:25:20pm

re: #112 Reverend Mother Ramallo

Oh. Another word salad person? Oy vey

118 OhNoZombies!  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 5:26:41pm

Oh shit!
I didn't know Sununu called Obama lazy!
Wow, he blew that whistle hard.

119 Varek Raith  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 5:27:10pm

re: #117 PhillyPretzel

Oh. Another word salad person?

De-engineered disintermediate budgetary management!!!

120 Obdicut  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 5:28:02pm

re: #119 Varek Raith

De-engineered disintermediate budgetary management!!!

Revitalize our core competencies in thinking outside the dominant paradigm of backwards-compatible ideologies.

121 Gus  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 5:28:39pm

re: #112 Reverend Mother Ramallo

Mitt Romney has mastered the art of using a whole lot of words to say absolutely nothing.

Gish Gallop

122 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 5:30:05pm

evening all...starting work tomorrow finally.

123 Varek Raith  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 5:30:11pm

re: #120 Sheeplord

Revitalize our core competencies in thinking outside the dominant paradigm of backwards-compatible ideologies.

I'm Mitt Romney and I approve this buzzword salad.

124 OhNoZombies!  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 5:31:39pm

re: #117 PhillyPretzel

Oh. Another word salad person?

Yep. Wordiness sounds like smartyness to dumb people.re: #119 Varek Raith

De-engineered disintermediate budgetary management!!!

re: #120 Sheeplord

Revitalize our core competencies in thinking outside the dominant paradigm of backwards-compatible ideologies.

Ummm. Yes?

125 Varek Raith  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 5:32:10pm

re: #124 Reverend Mother Ramallo

Yep. Wordiness sounds like smartyness to dumb people.re: #119 Varek Raith

re: #120 Sheeplord

Ummm. Yes?

Buzzword generators are fun.
;)

126 freetoken  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 5:36:19pm

Getting wide play on the internet today:

Why Reality TV Doesn’t Suck, and May Even Make Us Smarter

It’s easy to assume reality TV is the place where bad TV went to hide when the rest of TV got a lot better. Like that old Wild West town where criminals congregate, reality TV is often perceived as the last, “vast wasteland”: uncouth, desperate, lawless.

But while some shows seem irredeemably bad (Here Comes Honey Boo Boo, anyone?), others offer an indication of good things to come. In fact, by turning all of us into virtual anthropologists, reality TV may lead to the improvement – dare I say it – of Western civilization. Reality TV may even be the next stage in the evolution of television.

[...]

Strange, really strange. Then later he writes:

To be sure, there are some people so emotionally stunted or disappointed by life they treasure the humiliations inflicted by reality TV, but the rest of us are learning. [...] Scores of websites analyze and dissect [participants'] every move, [...] That’s when anthropology doesn’t just tell us, but shows us how to act and think and grow. Reality TV forces revelation.

A key feature of anthropology is the long, observational, “ethnographic” interview. Anthropologists believe one of the advantages of this method is that no one can manage appearances, let alone lie, successfully for a long period of time.

Hmmm...

Politicians have had their moves publicly discussed, dissected, and evaluated, over and over all during their careers. And they lie all during their careers, yet rarely is that actually a factor in what happens to them.

127 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 5:36:28pm

Back when I worked at Gateway we used to play buzzword bingo. I never won, but damn I came close.

128 Gus  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 5:38:11pm
129 OhNoZombies!  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 5:40:18pm

re: #128 Gus

[Embedded content]

Ha!
Hard to believe people don't remember how insane it was at the end of 2008.

130 Gus  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 5:41:37pm

re: #129 Reverend Mother Ramallo

Ha!
Hard to believe people don't remember how insane it was at the end of 2008.

October of 2008 was the beginning. The final crush of the financial and housing markets. I'll never forget that month.

131 freetoken  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 5:41:48pm

Politics is definitely different between years with a Presidential election and without:


Tea Party Favorite Embraces Obama as N.Y. Politics Shift

132 Gus  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 5:43:16pm
133 Gus  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 5:43:56pm
135 OhNoZombies!  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 5:46:38pm

re: #132 Gus

Crisis Financiera

I remember the sheer and utter panic on the faces of politicians and news people.

136 freetoken  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 5:48:08pm

Is this Obamacare fallout?

Deep cuts to Louisiana's public hospitals will affect uninsured patients

Louisiana’s public hospital safety net will have to cut back dramatically the services it offers to uninsured patients across the state under a plan approved Thursday by the LSU Board of Supervisors. In New Orleans, a $49 million reduction at the Interim LSU Public Hospital will mean that 432 workers lose their jobs, while the number of patient beds will shrink from 201 to 155. Some clinics associated with the hospital will close, while others will reduce their hours.

[...]

The reductions were brought on by a decrease in federal Medicaid funding for Louisiana this summer. The initial budget slashing began months ago, but when Opelka took over leadership of the system in September, he re-evaluated the existing plan and said he would need to cut deeper.

[...]

“It is a question of who dies and who lives. Where are these people going to go?” asked Sen. Ben Nevers, D-Bogalusa. “I am asking you who is going to provide the services? Until you tell me that, I am not going to be able to.”

[...]

137 Gus  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 5:48:36pm

re: #135 Reverend Mother Ramallo

I remember the sheer and utter panic on the faces of politicians and news people.

There was that one infamous press conference where Hank Paulson completely scared the daylights out of me.

138 OhNoZombies!  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 5:50:21pm

re: #136 freetoken

Is this Obamacare fallout?

Deep cuts to Louisiana's public hospitals will affect uninsured patients

This is the fallout from Jindal refusing to implement Obamacare.

139 freetoken  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 5:51:13pm
140 Gus  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 5:52:02pm

re: #139 freetoken

Wind-whipped snow slams N.D., Minnesota

GLOBAL COOLING!!

141 OhNoZombies!  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 5:52:15pm

re: #137 Gus

There was that one infamous press conference where Hank Paulson completely scared the daylights out of me.

You mean the one where he nearly ran off of the stage?

142 Gus  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 5:52:30pm

re: #140 Gus

[Embedded content]

Save this for when they blame Obama for it.

143 Gus  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 5:52:54pm

re: #141 Reverend Mother Ramallo

You mean the one where he nearly ran off of the stage?

Yeah, I think so. He was almost shaking.

144 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 5:55:48pm

re: #130 Gus

October of 2008 was the beginning. The final crush of the financial and housing markets. I'll never forget that month.

I was so not paying attention. I was paying attention to the election.

I'm glad I wasn't. I was able to learn so much better when I did my study on Dodd-Frank without the emotional baggage.

Fat Cats in both parties worked to dismantle alll the firewalls put-up since 1930 to prevent another meltdown. Then they went hog wild. Add to that the new and extremely complex product called "the derivative" and guess what, you not only get a meltdown, you get a global meltdown.

Greed. I'll never forget the hearing in which Alan Greenspan said that there is no reason respectable people in the banking industry could not be trusted to work with derivatives. No legislation was needed. Wish I could find the C-SPAN clip.

With that much money involved, and uncharted financial territory, no one can be trusted. Wild, Wild West of Banking.

145 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 5:56:12pm

re: #141 Reverend Mother Ramallo

You mean the one where he nearly ran off of the stage?

linky, I wanna see-ey.

146 Gus  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 5:58:42pm

re: #144 ggt

I was so not paying attention. I was paying attention to the election.

I'm glad I wasn't. I was able to learn so much better when I did my study on Dodd-Frank without the emotional baggage.

Fat Cats in both parties worked to dismantle alll the firewalls put-up since 1930 to prevent another meltdown. Then they went hog wild. Add to that the new and extremely complex product called "the derivative" and guess what, you not only get a meltdown, you get a global meltdown.

Greed. I'll never forget the hearing in which Alan Greenspan said that there is no reason respectable people in the banking industry could not be trusted to work with derivatives. No legislation was needed. Wish I could find the C-SPAN clip.

With that much money involved, and uncharted financial territory, no one can be trusted. Wild, Wild West of Banking.

Dodd-Frank was not the cause of the meltdown. That was banking reform from 2010. Romney was talking out of his ass once again and just connecting words. Bank profits hit 34.5 billion in August. They have and continue to make record profits.

147 OhNoZombies!  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 5:58:47pm

re: #145 ggt

linky, I wanna see-ey.

I'll have to do a search.
That was from memory.

148 Amory Blaine  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 6:00:17pm

How you like those .8 % cd rates?

149 Gus  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 6:01:16pm

About the worst effect from Dodd-Frank was the demise of free checking. At the same time other fees disappeared. Bank continued to see increased profits after Dodd-Frank. The problem with Dodd-Frank is that it should have included other elements which were opposed by the bank and financial lobby. Also see...

The Dodd-Frank Rules Jamie Dimon Hates Would Have Saved JPMorgan $2 Billion

150 moderatelyradicalliberal  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 6:03:09pm

re: #112 Reverend Mother Ramallo

Mitt Romney has mastered the art of using a whole lot of words to say absolutely nothing.

I heard that on the radio w/ Steve Harvey this morning. All that noise and he ain't sayin' nuthin'.

152 dragonath  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 6:04:50pm

re: #126 freetoken

Getting wide play on the internet today:

Why Reality TV Doesn’t Suck, and May Even Make Us Smarter

Strange, really strange.

The Learning Channel is like an object lesson in devolution.

153 compound_Idaho  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 6:08:43pm

Just got back from a few weeks Northern Nevada. Boom times! Very different from Las Vegas. Motels are expensive and full. Restaurants are full. Lots of young guys with tattoos driving brand new shiny $40,000 pickup trucks. Had a job offer to drive a haul truck. BUY GOLD!

154 Bubblehead II  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 6:08:48pm

Night Lizards. 0400 comes early.

As always. May The Deity Of Your Choice Smile down upon You and Yours.

Rest Well my fellow Lizards.

155 Gus  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 6:08:52pm

Oh yeah. This.

Dodd-Frank was passed. And it includes within it a number of provisions that I think has some unintended consequences that are harmful to the economy. One is it designates a number of banks as too big to fail, and they're effectively guaranteed by the federal government. This is the biggest kiss that's been given to -- to New York banks I've ever seen. This is an enormous boon for them. There've been 122 community and small banks have closed since Dodd- Frank.
-- Mitt Romney 10/3/2012

But look at this!

Romney Wrongly Connects Dodd-Frank Rule to Small Bank Failures

Oct. 4 (Bloomberg) -- President Barack Obama and Republican nominee Mitt Romney made competing assertions in their debate last night in Denver. How did they square with the facts?

Bank Bailouts

The Claim: Mitt Romney said the Dodd-Frank Act of 2010 designated five U.S. banks as too big to fail and gave them “a blank check,” contributing to the collapse of smaller banks. “We need to get rid of that provision because it’s killing regional and small banks,” he said, asserting it has contributed to the closing of 122 community banks.

The Background: The Dodd-Frank financial overhaul was enacted in July of 2010 to impose regulation on some of the riskiest practices that contributed to the financial meltdown. One provision created a protocol under which the largest, most complex financial institutions would be wound down safely, without lasting taxpayer burden, should they fail. Nine banks -- including five of the largest U.S. banks -- have submitted so- called “living wills” to U.S. banking regulators to map out how they would be dismantled under bankruptcy. If their bankruptcies threatened the financial system, Dodd-Frank gave the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. authority to liquidate them itself.

The Facts: Romney was off base. There is no connection between the failure of community banks and the provision in Dodd-Frank designed to contain the harm from the failure of a big bank. FDIC statistics show that 37 banks, not five, have enough assets to come under that provision.

Continues.

Pants on fire.

156 Gus  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 6:10:49pm

Last night was a litany of bullshit from Romney. It truly was Gish-Gallop at work. Whether he planned it that way or not. Mitt Romney is a bullshit generator.

157 PhillyPretzel  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 6:11:33pm

re: #156 Gus

I read that he bashed PBS again. Is that true?

158 Gus  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 6:11:51pm

re: #157 PhillyPretzel

I read that he bashed PBS again. Is that true?

Today?

159 Tigger2  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 6:11:52pm

re: #156 Gus

Last night was a litany of bullshit from Romney. It truly was Gish-Gallop at work. Whether he planned it that way or not. Mitt Romney is a bullshit generator.

He has had plenty of practice he was a CEO.

160 moderatelyradicalliberal  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 6:11:56pm

re: #112 Reverend Mother Ramallo

Mitt Romney has mastered the art of using a whole lot of words to say absolutely nothing.

I heard that on the radio w/ Steve Harvey this morning. All that noise and he ain't sayin' nuthin'. re: #152 dragonath

The Learning Channel is like an object lesson in devolution.

They need to change their name. You don't learn anything from Honey Boo Boo and Sister Wives.

161 PhillyPretzel  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 6:12:50pm

re: #158 Gus

No last night during the debate. I was reading a new novel.

162 engineer cat  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 6:13:25pm

Romney Wrongly Connects

he lied like a dog, but most people will only care that he lied forcefully and without hesitation

163 moderatelyradicalliberal  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 6:13:33pm

re: #136 freetoken

Is this Obamacare fallout?

Deep cuts to Louisiana's public hospitals will affect uninsured patients

No it's fallout from GOP governors refusing to implement Obamacare. Just another example of the GOP fucking over Americans in the hope that PBO will feel it.

164 The Questionable Timing of a Flea  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 6:14:08pm

re: #156 Gus

Last night was a litany of bullshit from Romney. It truly was Gish-Gallop at work. Whether he planned it that way or not. Mitt Romney is a bullshit generator.

But he won the debate by redefining success in a debate to mean sounding confident while lying rather than actually having a point.

165 Gus  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 6:14:13pm

re: #161 PhillyPretzel

No last night during the debate. I was reading a new novel.

I'm sorry, Jim, I'm going to stop the subsidy to PBS. I'm going to stop other things. I like PBS, I love Big Bird. Actually like you, too. But I'm not going to -- I'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from China to pay for. That's number one.
-- Mitt Romney 10/3/2012

166 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 6:14:19pm

re: #146 Gus

Dodd-Frank was not the cause of the meltdown. That was banking reform from 2010. Romney was talking out of his ass once again and just connecting words. Bank profits hit 34.5 billion in August. They have and continue to make record profits.

Yes, Gus, I know.

167 moderatelyradicalliberal  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 6:14:24pm

re: #162 engineer cat

Romney Wrongly Connects

he lied like a dog, but most people will only care that he lied forcefully and without hesitation

Most people being Republicans and cable news pundits.

168 engineer cat  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 6:14:31pm

re: #160 moderatelyradicalliberal

I heard that on the radio w/ Steve Harvey this morning. All that noise and he ain't sayin' nuthin'. re: #152 dragonath

They need to change their name. You don't learn anything from Honey Boo Boo and Sister Wives.

i like to watch the hitler channel but not the ancient aliens channel

169 moderatelyradicalliberal  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 6:16:30pm

re: #168 engineer cat

i like to watch the hitler channel but not the ancient aliens channel

That alien shit drives me nuts. The Hitler channel was much better. I love science and history so I hate what both channels have become. Does everything have to dumbed down?

170 Gus  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 6:16:47pm

re: #157 PhillyPretzel

I read that he bashed PBS again. Is that true?

171 Tigger2  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 6:17:26pm

re: #168 engineer cat

i like to watch the hitler channel but not the ancient aliens channel

I wont watch the History Channel or TLC I don't want to watch redneck this or redneck that, they have to many redneck shows on.

172 Gus  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 6:17:29pm

Whew. It was like he was on crack or something.

173 moderatelyradicalliberal  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 6:18:57pm

What's wrong with these people in Madison? Don't they know Obama lost the debate? It's over people!

[Link: theobamadiary.com...]

174 PhillyPretzel  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 6:19:05pm

re: #165 Gus

"I love Big Bird." Hey Mitt how about some other shows like America's Test Kitchen, Nova and This Old House. Heck Antiques Roadshow is on now at WHYY.

175 OhNoZombies!  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 6:21:17pm

The bottom line is the bottom line, and it's apparently cheaper to produce reality tv shows.
And with all of the crazy conspiracy theorists in this country, ancient aliens must be getting hella-ratings.

Not enough, however, to pay that weird guy to get a brush for his freaky hair.

176 Tigger2  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 6:21:43pm

re: #174 PhillyPretzel

"I love Big Bird." Hey Mitt how about some other shows like America's Test Kitchen, Nova and This Old House.

I like This Old House and reruns of Bob Ross painting series.

177 The Questionable Timing of a Flea  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 6:22:10pm

re: #165 Gus

I'm sorry, Jim, I'm going to stop the subsidy to PBS. I'm going to stop other things. I like PBS, I love Big Bird. Actually like you, too. But I'm not going to -- I'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from China to pay for. That's number one.
-- Mitt Romney 10/3/2012

We will absolutely borrow money from China for tax cuts for the rich and to keep the defense budget as obese as poor children, though.

178 PhillyPretzel  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 6:22:43pm

re: #176 Tigger2

Yes. Bob Ross and his happy little trees. I like that show too.

179 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 6:23:18pm

re: #157 PhillyPretzel

I read that he bashed PBS again. Is that true?

The thing about the PBS and NPR bruhaha that seems to happen ever election cycle is that they get such a small percentage of their operating budget from the government. Those who take advantage of the programming can usually afford to donate more during the "subscription drives".

Not the group that really needs for the government to provide good programming.

I wish there were a way to get more people to watch. So much better food for the brain than reality TV.

I heard an editorial about it on NPR a while back. A guy said that the listenership was exactly the demographic that didn't need tax subsidies.

Either way, its seems like a stupid argument to me. Not enough of a percentage to waste bandwith when there are so many other line items in the budget that can be argued over.

180 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 6:24:46pm

re: #169 moderatelyradicalliberal

That alien shit drives me nuts. The Hitler channel was much better. I love science and history so I hate what both channels have become. Does everything have to dumbed down?

Basic Common Denominator - or - Bad Money Drives Out Good.

181 Gus  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 6:25:13pm

re: #177 The Ghost of a Flea

China!

ROMNEY: "What would I cut from spending? Well, first of all, I will eliminate all programs by this test, if they pass it: Is the program so critical it's worth borrowing money from China to pay for it?"

THE FACTS: China continues to be portrayed by Romney and many other Republicans as the poster child for runaway federal deficits. It's true that China is the largest foreign holder of U.S. debt, but it only represents about an 8 percent stake. And China has recently been decreasing its holdings, according to the Treasury Department. Some two-thirds of the $16 trillion national debt is owed to the federal government, with the largest single stake the Federal Reserve, as well as American investors and the Social Security Trust Fund.

8 percent.

Derp.

182 kirkspencer  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 6:26:09pm

re: #177 The Ghost of a Flea

[wingut]We will absolutely borrow money from China for tax cuts for the rich and to keep the defense budget as obese as poor children, though.[/wingnut]

Due to recession-driven budget cuts, the alphabet has found it necessary to make the letters take temporary furloughs. //

183 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 6:27:50pm

re: #182 kirkspencer

Due to recession-driven budget cuts, the alphabet has found it necessary to make the letters take temporary furloughs. //

Well, with TXTing, we are getting new words added to the language every day and new spellings.

good = gud
txt = text
u
2
love = luv

I can't think of any more. It will be interesting in 10 years to compare todays dictionary to see what sticks.

184 The Questionable Timing of a Flea  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 6:27:54pm

re: #182 kirkspencer

Due to recession-driven budget cuts, the alphabet has found it necessary to make the letters take temporary furloughs. //

I think Tucker Carlson stole my "n," possibly for some kind of n-bomb. Or maybe it was Rush Limbaugh.

185 Ben G. Hazi  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 6:28:53pm

re: #182 kirkspencer

Due to recession-driven budget cuts, the alphabet has found it necessary to make the letters take temporary furloughs. //

This LGF thread has been brought to you by Mitt Romney and the letters F and U...

186 Gus  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 6:28:57pm

Haha!

187 Gus  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 6:31:44pm

Are those really deleted? Anyway. It cracks me up that that Hampton University video tape was such a flop. Gone! Poof! Vanished.

188 Gus  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 6:33:17pm
189 jaunte  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 6:33:18pm

re: #187 Gus

We'll always have Ojoe's "this is an alpha male" comment about Romney, though. Call it even.

190 The Questionable Timing of a Flea  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 6:33:56pm

re: #181 Gus

China!

8 percent.

Derp.

Romney's day isn't done until he mocks or demonizes some nation that isn't Israel.

After all, they are all less great than us and should bow down us, or quiver in fear of retaliation.

191 The Questionable Timing of a Flea  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 6:35:56pm

re: #189 jaunte

We'll always have Ojoe's "this is an alpha male" comment about Romney, though. Call it even.

So if Romney's the alpha male, that means he gets to fuck the USA first and nobody can stop him when he beats everybody else and throws urine and feces at the rest of the nation?

192 moderatelyradicalliberal  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 6:36:55pm

re: #191 The Ghost of a Flea

So if Romney's the alpha male, that means he gets to fuck the USA first and nobody can stop him when he beats everybody else and throws urine and feces at the rest of the nation?

Only men who feel emasculated care about this alpha male crap.

193 Henchman Ghazi-808  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 6:37:30pm

Romney: 'Victory is in sight' after first debate

DENVER (AP) — Buoyed by a powerful debate showing, Mitt Romney said Thursday he offers "prosperity that comes through freedom" to a country struggling to shed a weak economy. President Barack Obama accused the former Massachusetts governor of running from his own record in pursuit of political power.

Should read ' Buoyed by a powerful debate showing ladled with fat lies...'

194 Ben G. Hazi  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 6:38:53pm

re: #193 Kronocide

Romney: 'Victory is in sight' after first debate

Should read ' Buoyed by a powerful debate showing ladled with fat lies...'

Does anyone else think that Mitt really believes his own steaming bullshit or is that just for the GOP rubes?

195 jaunte  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 6:39:09pm

re: #191 The Ghost of a Flea

re: #192 moderatelyradicalliberal

It did give some new insight into why a lot of people with no apparent reason to benefit are still supporting Romneydaddy.

196 moderatelyradicalliberal  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 6:39:36pm

re: #193 Kronocide

Romney: 'Victory is in sight' after first debate

Should read ' Buoyed by a powerful debate showing ladled with fat lies...'

Bouyed Mitt is still a shit candidate with a shit campaign. He'll say something else stupid soon enough. I mean aside from all of the lies he told last night.

197 moderatelyradicalliberal  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 6:40:51pm

re: #194 Gert Fröbe

Does anyone else think that Mitt really believes his own steaming bullshit or is that just for the GOP rubes?

I think he proved himself to be a pathological liar last night. Whether he believes it or not, Mitt is very, very comfortable lying.

198 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 6:41:07pm

re: #130 Gus

October of 2008 was the beginning. The final crush of the financial and housing markets. I'll never forget that month.

But gas was < $2!

199 Gus  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 6:42:11pm

re: #198 Sheila Broflovski

But gas was < $2!

Yep. And we only had 2 dollars.

200 The Questionable Timing of a Flea  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 6:42:26pm

re: #192 moderatelyradicalliberal

Only men who feel emasculated care about this alpha male crap.

"Alpha male" is a great excuse for selfish, male-privilege behavior that has little or nothing to do with the animal-society role of an alpha and/or being a bully, braggart and liar. It's Ayn Rand with evolutionary psych.

201 moderatelyradicalliberal  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 6:42:38pm

re: #195 jaunte

re: #192 moderatelyradicalliberal

It did give some new insight into why a lot of people with no apparent reason to benefit are still supporting Romneydaddy.

R-Money improved his standing with Republicans because their is nothing they like more than an asshole, but he didn't win over or take away any voters from Obama and that's all that matters.

Let him basked in the afterglow, he'll be itching in all of the wrong places soon enough.

202 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 6:43:18pm

re: #187 Gus

Are those really deleted? Anyway. It cracks me up that that Hampton University video tape was such a flop. Gone! Poof! Vanished.

It's hilarious! I just checked Dead Breitbart, and not a single post about it on their front page. Daily Caller, likewise. Hilarious, yet pathetic.

203 Gus  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 6:44:14pm

re: #202 Charles Johnson

It's hilarious! I just checked Dead Breitbart, and not a single post about it on their front page. Daily Caller, likewise. Hilarious, yet pathetic.

Game changer!

204 moderatelyradicalliberal  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 6:44:17pm

re: #202 Charles Johnson

It's hilarious! I just checked Dead Breitbart, and not a single post about it on their front page. Daily Caller, likewise. It's pathetic.

If Romney doesn't move ahead in the polls after his debate "win" there will be another video soon enough.

205 Lidane  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 6:46:13pm
206 PhillyPretzel  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 6:50:42pm

I got to get up early tomorrow. Good Night to my fellow Lizards.

207 jaunte  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 6:50:46pm

re: #205 Lidane


Study Measures Romney Plan to Screw Poor, Sick

Commonwealth Fund has released a report comparing the stark choice. Estimating conservatively, Romney’s plan — to the extent that the report was able to piece it together — would increase the uninsured population to about 72 million, while Obama’s would cut it to 26 million (his plan does not cover illegal immigrants.)

208 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 6:50:55pm
Romney’s Clean Energy Whoppers

Mitt Romney made numerous bogus claims in the Oct. 3 debate about the $90 billion in grants, guaranteed loans and tax breaks for energy projects in the stimulus bill:

Romney falsely claimed “about half” of the clean-energy companies that received U.S.-backed loans “have gone out of business.” But 26 companies received loan guarantees under a loan program cited by Romney, and three of those have filed for bankruptcy. The three firms were approved for about 6 percent of the loan guarantees.

Romney incorrectly claimed the “$90 billion in breaks to the green energy world” was provided “in one year.” It was two.

He stated at one point that Obama put $90 billion “into solar and wind.” But only $21 billion went for renewable energy projects, “such as the installation of wind turbines and solar panels,” according to a White House document cited by the Romney campaign. The spending also included $18 billion for transit projects and $10 billion to upgrade the nation’s electrical grid.

He falsely claimed the $90 billion was equal to “about 50 years’ worth of what oil and gas receives” in tax breaks, which he estimated at $2.8 billion. By his own figures, it would have been 32 years’ worth. But it’s even less than that. The administration estimates that eliminating oil and gas tax preferences would raise about $3.9 billion a year (23 years’ worth). The industry itself says the administration would increase its taxes by $8.5 billion a year (10.5 years’ worth).

He falsely claimed Obama “put $90 billion into green jobs … that would have hired 2 million teachers.” But that $90 billion included loan guarantees, not just grant money, and the government can’t hire teachers with loan guarantees.

209 Gus  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 6:56:05pm
210 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 6:56:27pm

re: #208 goddamnedfrank

And they didn't even get into his "clean coal" howler.

211 A Man for all Seasons  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 6:58:45pm

I told you lizards! I've said it for months and nobody believed me!
I'm not a pundit or poly-sci major. But I've said clearly. Nothing before or really else matters till the debates.. Before nothing was but spin and shit on both sides.. He have now hit the hot LZ in this vision for America we face.
My humble citizen points.
1. Only today, now that you have American's attention don't just call Mitt a liar. Focus on Math and Policy.
2. Tell Big bird to just shut the hell up about Tax returns..That is so yesterday don't tweet or get involved in the middle of a knife fight..Otherwise you'll end up on the Cartoon network next year. I promise you if you don't tread carefully the GOP will do that to you. I freaking promise you they will..
3. I posted earlier that most likely Obama would take the GOP's best shot in round one. Obama knows this..He knows sports. If any pundit thought the game was over with the Lakes down by 10 in the first quarter or our football team down by 7 in the 2nd quarter that the game was lost. You'd laugh them out of the house.
This has just begun.

212 Gus  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 6:58:52pm

re: #210 Charles Johnson

And they didn't even get into his "clean coal" howler.

Ugh. Check your DMs.

213 Henchman Ghazi-808  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 6:59:34pm

re: #209 Gus

Top 1% Got 93% of Income Growth as Rich-Poor Gap Widened

They just keep getting richer.

The temerity to state as such is class warfare.

Victim: Hey, quit stabbing me.
Assailant: Murderer!

214 Gus  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 7:02:16pm

re: #213 Kronocide

The temerity to state as such is class warfare.

Victim: Hey, quit stabbing me.
Assailant: Murderer!

Tax cuts for the rich creates jobs!

//

215 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Oct 4, 2012 7:08:24pm

re: #209 Gus

Top 1% Got 93% of Income Growth as Rich-Poor Gap Widened

They just keep getting richer.

Barack Obama is the shittiest wealth-redistributing socialist EVER!

216 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Oct 5, 2012 12:08:41am

re: #181 Gus

One of my students from China is now studying at Kent State. Obama made an appearance there a few days ago, and she said she doesn't like Obama because of his stance on China. I pointed out that Romney's stance would be even worse, without getting into specifics.

The Repubs want to demonize China, as if it is China's fault that Americans are having such a hard time. The truth of the matter is lower labor costs will naturally attract businesses to go offshore, unless there are some domestic factors to compensate for the move.

So, US mfrs built their stuff (like KitchenAid mixers) offshore to save on costs, and then find they can sell their stuff for less and still make profits. Americans get used to paying less for products, and now everyone is hooked.

Meanwhile, China's banks had to operate under very strict guidelines, so they were not dragged under by the mortgage crisis that began, IIRC, in the go-go financial markets of the USA. Result: China's economy was booming (it's slowed down recently) while America's almost went bust.

217 Elias  Fri, Oct 5, 2012 4:21:54am

"This content is unavailable from your location" :(

218 BeenHereAwhile  Fri, Oct 5, 2012 7:04:03am

Pls file this in the "if you don't know what's broke, you can't fix it," category.

Been appreciating & reading LGF with an iPhone for 4 years, & found that as coding changes were made; it made iPhone interaction with LGF smoother.

But today (even after flushing the iPhone background cache, & rebooting)
whenever I touch my iPhone screen, the display jumps back up to to the first entry in this thread. (took several attempts to enable writing to the comments screen)

HTH


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