Finally got into a tournament for 40k using the new rules. Went 1-1-1 for the Tournament, but won $40 for being the voted the best painted army there.

re: #1 Kragar

Finally got into a tournament for 40k using the new rules. Went 1-1-1 for the Tournament, but won $40 for being the voted the best painted army there.

and you proceeded to spend that $40 on more 40K stuff, correct? :)

re: #2 Dark_Falcon

and you proceeded to spend that $40 on more 40K stuff, correct? :)

...

Maybe.

Ah, good times. Nothing quite like running up the tech ladder, then mowing the competition down.

It was nice being in Montreal for the first debate. I was far away from U.S. politics; Celebrating sukkot in the Canadian fashion, by eating Poutine. I caught up on it later. It probably would have bothered me too much if I had watched it now.

Now getting ready for the last of the big clump of Jewish Holidays--Simchat Torah. It's the holiday where we rewind the Torah (it's one big scroll) and start reading it again from the beginning. The last portion of it is read, then we start with the beginning. (And if you've read it already, please don't tell me what happens at the end of Deuteronomy without a big SPOILER ALERT warning.)

All this PBS talk has me playing the Mister Rogers songbook on the piano. PBS has the P/V/G arragements available for free downloads:

[Link: pbskids.org...]

Click on the music note links to download the pdf. I was amazed at some of the harmonizations/changes Fred Rogers wrote. The P/V/G arrangements are very simple, but there are some unexpected harmonies.

So, I take it from the utter silence that it's late-nite on a Saturday?

Tyranny of the atheists:

Greencastle-Antrim School board Backs down on fight for prayer

I'm not surprised that there are still school boards out there who continue on with sectarian religious traditions.

Rambo Stiltskin.#unpopularhobbits

— Phil Plait (@BadAstronomer) October 7, 2012

re: #6 Targetpractice

So, I take it from the utter silence that it's late-nite on a Saturday?

Making some dinner and recovering from the day. Was on my feet for around 10 hours.

re: #9 Kragar

Making some dinner and recovering from the day. Was on my feet for around 10 hours.

From the sounds of it, it was a fulfilling 10 hours.

re: #10 Targetpractice

From the sounds of it, it was a fulfilling 10 hours.

Yeah, didn't realize there was a tourney until we got there. Was about a dozen of us. Kids had a good time there as well.

I made a great Mexican chicken soup. Realized the joy was in the making, not even hungry. Tomorrow.

re: #11 Kragar

Yeah, didn't realize there was a tourney until we got there. Was about a dozen of us. Kids had a good time there as well.

Glad to hear it. Good to spend time with the family when ya can.

re: #13 Targetpractice

Glad to hear it. Good to spend time with the family when ya can.

I did catch an earful from my wife when we got home 10 hours later.

Scumbag.

re: #15 Gus

Scumbag.

Stupid or evil. Not sure which.

re: #14 Kragar

I did catch an earful from my wife when we got home 10 hours later.

Sounds like she couldn't fault you for spending time with the kids.

re: #16 Mostly sane, most of the time.

Stupid or evil. Not sure which.

Report it for review either way. It's vile trash that IMO violates YouTube's standards. As such it should be removed.

re: #18 Dark_Falcon

Report it for review either way. It's vile trash that IMO violates YouTube's standards. As such it should be removed.

I don't care about that. I'd rather punch him in the face. Leave it up. Fuck these idiots.

Congressman opens voting rights probe of tea party group

A Maryland congressman has opened an investigation of a group that has tried to remove thousands of voters from registration rolls across the nation in advance of the presidential election.

The inquiry by Rep. Elijah E. Cummings , a Democrat, is being started a week after Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) urged the Justice Department to enforce voting rights laws, citing a Los Angeles Times article detailing attempts by an Ohio offshoot of the group, True the Vote, to strike hundreds of students and others from voting rolls.

“At some point, an effort to challenge voter registrations by the thousands without any legitimate basis may be evidence of illegal voter suppression,” Cummings told True the Vote founder Catherine Engelbrecht in a letter on Thursday. “If these efforts are intentional, politically motivated and widespread across multiple states, they could amount to a criminal conspiracy to deny legitimate voters their constitutional rights.”

re: #18 Dark_Falcon

Report it for review either way. It's vile trash that IMO violates YouTube's standards. As such it should be removed.

If the Mohammed video doesn't violate their standards, I doubt revisionist history will either, no matter how vile. I think at this point, nudity and disputed copyrights are the only standards Youtube has.

re: #15 Gus

Scumbag.

What does it show? Would prefer not to waste my limited bandwidth watching it, based on the descriptions so far...

re: #20 Kragar

Congressman opens voting rights probe of tea party group

And yet, if Romney loses come November, there will be all kinds of screaming of "voter fraud!"

re: #19 Gus

I don't care about that. I'd rather punch him in the face. Leave it up. Fuck these idiots.

Punching the asshole in the face does nothing but get you arrested and it lets him cry "HELP, HELP, I'M BEING REPRESSED!!1".

re: #21 JamesWI

If the Mohammed video doesn't violate their standards, I doubt revisionist history will either, no matter how vile. I think at this point, nudity and disputed copyrights are the only standards Youtube has.

YouPr0n

re: #21 JamesWI

If the Mohammed video doesn't violate their standards, I doubt revisionist history will either, no matter how vile. I think at this point, nudity and disputed copyrights are the only standards Youtube has.

I'm still going to report it, since it's clearly hate speech. If YouTube decides not to act, that's their failing. I've done my duty.

re: #22 Interesting Times

What does it show? Would prefer not to waste my limited bandwidth watching it, based on the descriptions so far...

Some freaked out conspiracy theory for the morons of the world.

Ha, Radiohead has a second drummer on this Austin City Limits, and he's dressed the same as the original drummer, and is also completely bald, and even looks sort of like him too.

I wonder if they made the guy shave his head to join the band, or if they went out specifically looking for middle-aged drummers with no hair.

re: #18 Dark_Falcon

Report it for review either way. It's vile trash that IMO violates YouTube's standards. As such it should be removed.

Did you feel that way about the vile video about Muslims that started all the ME riots?

I agree that this one is vile and he is both stupid and evil.

re: #27 Gus

Some freaked out conspiracy theory for the morons of the world.

Na Zi.
Natural Zits.

IT ALL MAKES SENSE

@javierespinosa2 Hahahahaha! Yeah right.

— Gus (@Gus_802) October 7, 2012

Is it a full moon or what?

re: #31 Gus

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Derp.
You don't HEU for that.

re: #32 Gus

Is it a full moon or what?

No, just a presidential election.

re: #30 Varek Raith

Na Zi.
Natural Zits.

IT ALL MAKES SENSE

Sodium(Na) Ziti. Oh my god, the Nazis are salt pasta!

re: #32 Gus

Is it a full moon or what?

That was a couple of days ago, this years "harvest moon".

re: #36 freetoken

That was a couple of days ago, this years "harvest moon".

Yes, and as soon as #Syria is "free" the menfolk there will be demanding "rights" to marry 9 year old girls. Film at 11. #p2 #tlot #Egypt

— Gus (@Gus_802) October 7, 2012

Burn!

I still remember the idiots who thought Lukashenko and Chavez were great because they were anti-Bush. I didn't like Bush either but dayum.

re: #39 HappyWarrior

I still remember the idiots who thought Lukashenko and Chavez were great because they were anti-Bush. I didn't like Bush either but dayum.

Speaking of the Devil. Big election tomorrow in Venezuela. Looks like it is close

re: #39 HappyWarrior

Yeah, I remember something like that leading to the quick demise of the Tom Tomorrow comments because his commentariat jumped over a front pager for having the temerity to point out the facts.

re: #39 HappyWarrior

I still remember the idiots who thought Lukashenko and Chavez were great because they were anti-Bush. I didn't like Bush either but dayum.

It's just part of the fashion game. Pretending to be smart. Pseudo intellectuals. Chavez hates the USA. Ergo, it's cool to like Chavez because you didn't get along with your dad or something.

re: #42 Gus

It's just part of the fashion game. Pretending to be smart. Pseudo intellectuals. Chavez hates the USA. Ergo, it's cool to like Chavez because you didn't get along with your dad or something.

Armchair revolutionaries. Not at all unlike their wingnut counter-parts actually.

The CBO says by 2017 we'll spend $2.4 trillion on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. The auto bailouts costed about 1% that amount. Which was a better investment so far?

We'll always have Sean Penn~~~

re: #45 dragonath

We'll always have Sean Penn~~~

Errata

re: #44 Mich-again

The CBO says by 2017 we'll spend $2.4 trillion on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. The auto bailouts costed about 1% that amount. Which was a better investment so far?

Auto-bailouts obviously. Their success made Mitt look bad and we can't have that. //

re: #40 blueraven

Speaking of the Devil. Big election tomorrow in Venezuela. Looks like it is close

It'll be close? Damn, I guess sickness really is taking it outta Hugo. Surprised the challenger hasn't contracted a lethal case of 9mm "flu."

re: #1 Kragar

Finally got into a tournament for 40k using the new rules. Went 1-1-1 for the Tournament, but won $40 for being the voted the best painted army there.

Did you break out the Hello Kitty dreadnought?
:D

This cracks me up. This site was linked by The Guardian. 50 bucks for a hat.

re: #47 HappyWarrior

Auto-bailouts obviously. Their success made Mitt look bad and we can't have that. //

And I don't mean to demean war as an investment but it was a calculated risk to go this route. Dick Cheney warned beforehand that it might cost up to $80 billion.

I paged this, but I just think everyone needs to see it--what is it with California Republicans and sheep, anyway?

[Link: splash.johndennis2012.com...]

Funniest attack ad of the season, y'all. Zombies, sheep, and Nancy Pelosi.

As my husband pointed out, when you stand absolutely no chance, you can pretty much do what you want.

re: #52 SanFranciscoZionist

I paged this, but I just think everyone needs to see it--what is it with California Republicans and sheep, anyway?

[Link: splash.johndennis2012.com...]

Funniest attack ad of the season, y'all. Zombies, sheep, and Nancy Pelosi.

As my husband pointed out, when you stand absolutely no chance, you can pretty much do what you want.

Good Lord!!

re: #52 SanFranciscoZionist

I paged this, but I just think everyone needs to see it--what is it with California Republicans and sheep, anyway?

[Link: splash.johndennis2012.com...]

Funniest attack ad of the season, y'all. Zombies, sheep, and Nancy Pelosi.

As my husband pointed out, when you stand absolutely no chance, you can pretty much do what you want.

What did I just watch?

re: #50 Gus

This cracks me up. This site was linked by The Guardian. 50 bucks for a hat.

OK but I like the sporty poncho

The other day I saw some Twitter plea for an undocumented immigrant that was about to be deported who also needs a hernia operation. That was the crux of the plea. I nearly hurled.

re: #54 HappyWarrior

What did I just watch?

Nancy Pelosi and her band of zombies were foiled by John Dennis, Republican candidate for the 8th Congressional District.

John Dennis has weird taste in campaign ads.

re: #50 Gus

This cracks me up. This site was linked by The Guardian. 50 bucks for a hat.

A bit low-rent, no?

re: #58 freetoken

A bit low-rent, no?

Probably. I really don't frequent The Guardian. Stupid place really.

re: #52 SanFranciscoZionist

I paged this, but I just think everyone needs to see it--what is it with California Republicans and sheep, anyway?

[Link: splash.johndennis2012.com...]

Funniest attack ad of the season, y'all. Zombies, sheep, and Nancy Pelosi.

As my husband pointed out, when you stand absolutely no chance, you can pretty much do what you want.

Preview for next SyFy movie?
/

re: #57 SanFranciscoZionist

Nancy Pelosi and her band of zombies were foiled by John Dennis, Republican candidate for the 8th Congressional District.

John Dennis has weird taste in campaign ads.

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Haha I know. That's probably the weirdest ad I've ever seen. Even weirder than Gravel's famous stare in to space one.

re: #57 SanFranciscoZionist

John Dennis has weird taste in campaign ads.

Also, something of a fixation on the evil of Nancy Pelosi, which is sort of understandable, because his chances of beating her are very slim, to be charitable.

re: #61 HappyWarrior

Haha I know. That's probably the weirdest ad I've ever seen. Even weirder than Gravel's famous stare in to space one.

Nothing will really ever beat the Demon Sheep, as far as I'm concerned, but these are pretty good.

re: #52 SanFranciscoZionist

OK, that was a scream!

re: #63 SanFranciscoZionist

Nothing will really ever beat the Demon Sheep, as far as I'm concerned, but these are pretty good.

Yeah, that was pretty top notch on the weirdness. But I have to say, I find Mr. Dennis's ads even weirder because of him constantly being there to save the day from the evil Pelosi.

#ThreeWordsOfAdvice All about me.

— Gus (@Gus_802) October 7, 2012

re: #57 SanFranciscoZionist

Whoa, check out that bit of crazy at the end:

"(Obligatory McCain-Feingold-Incumbent-protection-mandated-message)"

WTF does that mean?

re: #52 SanFranciscoZionist

So, if he got beat 80% to 15% in 2010, it raises the question... what does he really want?

re: #68 jaunte

So, if he got beat 80% to 15% in 2010, it raises the question... what does he really want?

13% in 2012? But yeah I don't get it. I know that it costs a certain amount of money to file to run for Congress. Seems like a complete waste of money and time to run. But then again over 75% of Congress will be retained even with Congress's popularity at a historical low.

The Blair Sheep Project

re: #59 Gus

Women's clothing prices are always a bit of a challenge for men to grapple with.

re: #57 SanFranciscoZionist

Nancy Pelosi and her band of zombies were foiled by John Dennis, Republican candidate for the 8th Congressional District.

John Dennis has weird taste in campaign ads.

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Pelosi is 72. Time to start thinking of a replacement.

re: #68 jaunte

So, if he got beat 80% to 15% in 2010, it raises the question... what does he really want?

Well, the way it works in the mayoral race in San Francisco is that the Republicans choose someone--anyone, as far as I can tell, really--to run for mayor as the Republican candidate. Then they pick the Democrat they like in the race and support him.

The Congressional race is even more pro forma, since they really don't have much of a choice. In the mayoral race, Republicans can decide they like Newsom better than Gonzalez, but Pelosi has represented California's 8th Congressional since 1987, and she's not slowing down. So taking on the job already indicates a willingness to keep charging the windmill, and a lack of concern for your future political chances...this is a man who's pretty much agreed to be a sacrificial lamb, protestations aside, for the forseeable future.

re: #71 freetoken

Women's clothing prices are always a bit of a challenge for men to grapple with.

I'm sure that California will figure this out. They always do.

re: #72 Gus

Pelosi is 72. Time to start thinking of a replacement.

Zombie Pelosi.
Didn't you watch the ad???
/

re: #75 Varek Raith

Zombie Pelosi.
Didn't you watch the ad???
/

I did. My take away is seeing two idiots.

re: #76 Gus

I did. My take away is seeing two idiots.

Only two?

re: #77 HappyWarrior

Only two?

There might have been more. I'm not a drooler.

re: #76 Gus

I did. My take away is seeing two idiots.

I think one is a little more idiotic than the other. That ad is ridiculous.

re: #50 Gus

This cracks me up. This site was linked by The Guardian. 50 bucks for a hat.

Do you get a free Prince song download with that raspberry beret?

Emperor Norton was the best king we ever had!

Oh look. A knit coat for only 350.

Don't you care about THE CHILDREN!?

Joggers no doubt.

re: #71 freetoken

Women's clothing prices are always a bit of a challenge for men to grapple with.

I hate liberal bullshit artists.

re: #78 Gus

There might have been more. I'm not a drooler.

Heh I was talking about the actors.

re: #82 Gus

For 75 dollars I could make a Havana shirt out of real cigars.

re: #84 Gus

I hate liberal bullshit artists.

Lol.

We Provide fair wages in the local context

re: #82 Gus

Oh look. A knit coat for only 350.

Don't you care about THE CHILDREN!?

Joggers no doubt.

Fair Indigo has more reasonable prices if you're looking for women's fair-trade clothing.

If you're not hung up on fair trade, I recommend Land's End.

re: #87 Varek Raith

Lol.

Pelosi and Reid need to step aside. We need people like Jim Webb to take over.

re: #89 Gus

Pelosi and Reid need to step aside. We need people like Jim Webb to take over.

Too bad he is leaving the Senate.

re: #86 dragonath

For 75 dollars I could make a Havana shirt out of real cigars.

The best is $50 for a women's tank top.

$50......for a tank top.

re: #40 blueraven

Speaking of the Devil. Big election tomorrow in Venezuela. Looks like it is close

Any chance of Chavez not winning? There's a big fight going on at Harry's Place, but I genuinely don't know the score.

re: #90 blueraven

Too bad he is leaving the Senate.

I know. Still bummed out about that even though I feel Kaine will be better than Allen. Not saying much tho.

re: #91 JamesWI

The best is $50 for a women's tank top.

$50......for a tank top.

Nevermind, I found a worse one. $70 for a scarf. With tassels.

re: #91 JamesWI

The best is $50 for a women's tank top.

$50......for a tank top.

Thing is, you can find prices like that in lines that are made in Chinese sweatshops just like the stuff at Target, and are no better quality.

re: #92 SanFranciscoZionist

Any chance of Chavez not winning? There's a big fight going on at Harry's Place, but I genuinely don't know the score.

I have read conflicting articles. Probably more like here, media wants a horse race. Closer than in a long time, but I doubt Chavez will be ousted.

re: #95 SanFranciscoZionist

Thing is, you can find prices like that in lines that are made in Chinese sweatshops just like the stuff at Target, and are no better quality.

If you're paying $50 for a plain tank top, something is seriously wrong with you. :)

re: #96 blueraven

I have read conflicting articles. Probably more like here, media wants a horse race. Closer than in a long time, but I doubt Chavez will be ousted.

Guy at Harry's Place keeps going on about how the EU, and the Carter Center, and EVERYBODY says that Venezuelan elections are the freest and fairest in the world. And apparently the EU does say the elections are legit.

But I read HR Watch's stuff. How can a country where the press is controlled by the ruling party have a genuinely free election? I don't get it.

re: #97 JamesWI

If you're paying $50 for a plain tank top, something is seriously wrong with you. :)

Well, I agree. But check out the prices on the Nordstrom site sometime.

re: #99 SanFranciscoZionist

Holy shit, I just took your advice. A few "cheap" ones, but then I found this:

[Link: shop.nordstrom.com...]

$1,090 for that. What the fuck?

re: #99 SanFranciscoZionist

Four hundred bucks for a satin shell top. Triacetate/polyester.

[Link: shop.nordstrom.com...]

God and I thought I was spending a little too much buying 25 dollar concert T's.

re: #100 JamesWI

Holy shit, I just took your advice. A few "cheap" ones, but then I found this:

[Link: shop.nordstrom.com...]

$1,090 for that. What the fuck?

It's ugly and polyester!

re: #84 Gus

I hate liberal bullshit artists.

I'm a bullshit sculptor.

re: #103 blueraven

It's ugly and polyester!

Wait until I take a hot iron to it by mistake.

re: #105 darthstar

Wait until I take a hot iron to it by mistake.

Might look better

For the biologists among us? Was Haeckel's theory about embryonic development still being taken seriously in the 1960s?

MMM, primer in a poorly ventilated space....

re: #107 SanFranciscoZionist

Are you referring to Recapitulation theory?

Hey everybody, what was/is your favorite PBS show?

I still love Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego...

Hit it, Rockapella!

re: #110 dragonath

Hey everybody, what was/is your favorite PBS show?

I still love Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego...

HEY YOU GUYS!!! Actually, Mr. Rogers and Sesame Street were my favorites as a toddler in the 60s...but Electric Company wasn't bad either...and Rita Moreno was hot.

re: #110 dragonath

Before I went off to college, one of the 4 stations we could receive (for our B&W tv) was the PBS station out of the university some miles away... and I watched it mostly for Dr. Who and Schoolhouse rock (for which I was a bit too old, but I liked it anyway - good music.) Oh, and they also showed reruns of Julia Child.

Digging through the G. Gershwin catalog of (written) music - his first piece, Lullaby, apparently was written as an assignment (according to Wikipedia) and intended for a small ensemble. Here is (I believe) a version for a large orchestra, done by Leonard Slatkin with him leading the St. Louis Symphony:

re: #12 Blackity Black Black!

I made a great Mexican chicken soup. Realized the joy was in the making, not even hungry. Tomorrow.

Of course!

re: #113 freetoken

Someone from California told me their PBS affiliate used to show anime like Urusei Yatsura, way before anything else got US distribution. I thought that was cool.

re: #110 dragonath

Hey everybody, what was/is your favorite PBS show?

I still love Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego...

As a little kid, Sesame Street. Even had the playhouse. Enjoyed Carmen Sandiego too because I was and still am a geography nerd and that jingle will never leave my head. Reading Rainbow was neat too. They would always show it at school when I was in elementary school and it was a neat way to find out about new books. Now, it's probably Frontline because they explore interesting topics. Really, PBS is a useful service. There are so many other items in the budget that can and should be gutted before it.

re: #107 SanFranciscoZionist

For the biologists among us? Was Haeckel's theory about embryonic development still being taken seriously in the 1960s?

No, not really.

There's a new Ken Burns documentary that's going to be released in November. I personally don't watch much from the local PBS affiliate because the programming is so poor. The president in charge of programming intentionally eschewed government funding in favor of local corporate funding. The result is uninspired formatting that attempts to offend no one.

That's what cuts in the PBS budget mean.

Besides the really important stuff like NOVA and all that, the clowns decide to show Lawrence Welk and geriatric Doo Wop reunion concerts.

I mean, who the fuck under 110 watches Lawrence Welk? They even missed the State of the Union broadcast last time, in favor of, you know who:

Lawrence Welk!

re: #119 dragonath

There's a new Ken Burns documentary that's going to be released in November. I personally don't watch much from the local PBS affiliate because the programming is so poor. The president in charge of programming intentionally eschewed government funding in favor of local corporate funding. The result is uninspired formatting that attempts to offend no one.

That's what cuts in the PBS budget mean.

Besides the really important stuff like NOVA and all that, the clowns decide to show Lawrence Welk and geriatric Doo Wop reunion concerts.

I mean, who the fuck under 110 watches Lawrence Welk? They even missed the State of the Union broadcast last time, in favor of, you know who:

Lawrence Welk!

Fool!
If you don't understand the Lennon Sisters, how can you hope to comprehend the Kardashians?

A One, A Two.

As I go off to bed, I thought I'd like to drop a little English on y'all (so to speak); this is how Adele does Bond:

Haha.

Lawrence Welk does sometime truly amaze me. I turned on the TV in the middle of the night, and lo, I see people wearing sequined white suits riding a miniature toy train around the set, backed by a string section pumping out sweet melodies.

It was then I decided to start drinking.

One last bit to add to my ongoing public television drama:

The same PBS station runs the McLaughlin Group by day, which makes me suspect that there is a resident wingnut in charge of public programming, oh irony of ironies.

I remember they dropped one of my favorite British comedies, Coupling, because some godbotherers complained about it and the Catholic diocese provides a good chunk of their funding.

Luckily the local cable company realized how craptacular this station is and added WHYY Philadelphia, which is pretty damn rad. I can even gnash my teeth listening to the wilting tones of David Brooks (when I want to).

re: #119 dragonath

Oh yes, Lawrence Welk. He too showed up on the local PBS station - but those weren't reruns!

Yes, we used to watch Welk in b&w.

Morning, all

re: #124 freetoken

I can only imagine the throbbing impact that Lawrence Welk must have had on the minds of millions back in the day. I get a tingling sensation in my brain when I see him in Sparkly Living Color. I think it's my synapses fusing.

Although, if you're interested in true horror, I can direct you to a copy of The Nutcracker, with lyrics, as sung by Fred Waring and his Pennsylvanians.

re: #100 JamesWI

Holy shit, I just took your advice. A few "cheap" ones, but then I found this:

[Link: shop.nordstrom.com...]

$1,090 for that. What the fuck?

Great, now I have two different Nordstrom ads with that ugly plastic looking top on the LGF page, thanks a lot. :(

/// ;)

re: #124 freetoken

Oh yes, Lawrence Welk. He too showed up on the local PBS station - but those weren't reruns!

Yes, we used to watch Welk in b&w.

I remember when the only TV here was ABC, NBC, CBS and PBS, all in black and white. Speaking of that...a video from 1980 looking back at the first 21 years of WEDU...

re: #126 dragonath

Welk played to not just a different generation, but to a the nordic culture that dominated (and in a few places still dominates) the upper Mississippi valley region.

My parents would tell me of hearing Myron Floren as he toured around the frigid backwaters.

Welk also had a capable dance troupe, and one of the better tap dancers around, Arthur Duncan.

OMG, I found that song I was looking for... in video, yet! Oh, god! Oh. God...

re: #114 freetoken

Gershwin and Copeland- unmistakably American.

British invasion my ass- American music changed the world.

Here is one of my favorites, but you probably can find a better version.

re: #126 dragonath

I can only imagine the throbbing impact that Lawrence Welk must have had on the minds of millions back in the day. I get a tingling sensation in my brain when I see him in Sparkly Living Color. I think it's my synapses fusing.

Although, if you're interested in true horror, I can direct you to a copy of The Nutcracker, with lyrics, as sung by Fred Waring and his Pennsylvanians.

In the 60s I worked with a guy who had a serious Lennon Sisters fetish. He also refused to believe pro wrestling was fixed.

The comments really are a mix of the sacred and the profane tonight, aren't they?

Somebody mentioned the Lennon Sisters?

I remember watching Lawrence Welk just in the hopes of seeing one of my adolescent "crushes"...what was not to like?

Lennon Sisters

re: #134 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You

Somebody mentioned the Lennon Sisters?

I remember watching Lawrence Welk just in the hopes of seeing one of my adolescent "crushes"...what was not to like?

Lennon Sisters

Is that you Kenny?

What's your take on Killer Kowalski?

re: #135 Decatur Deb

Is that you Kenny?

What's your take on Killer Kowalski?

He is no match for Dusty Rhodes and his Atomic Elbow!

re: #135 Decatur Deb

Seriously though I remember almost coming to blows over an argument about the old Championship Wrestling from Florida with a guy who was insulted that I called it fake.

re: #137 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You

Seriously though I remember almost coming to blows over an argument about the old Championship Wrestling from Florida with a guy who was insulted that I called it fake.

Yeah this guy was an early prototype of the True Believer. Probably a TPGOP state senator now, with a laptop full of questionable porn.

re: #138 Decatur Deb

Lol :D

re: #131 researchok

John Williams w/ Boston Pops version:

Strategy advice from David Frum, re Unemployment Truthers:

In a little less than a month's time, the Republican party will ask the American people to trust us with national executive power. It would be a great help if, in the interval, party supporters refrained from looking or sounding like raving madmen.

re: #141 Decatur Deb

Strategy advice from David Frum, re Unemployment Truthers:

In a little less than a month's time, the Republican party will ask the American people to trust us with national executive power. It would be a great help if, in the interval, party supporters refrained from looking or sounding like raving madmen.

No, because to these people behaving a raving madman is synonymous with being a Republican.

The entire article which DF based his LGF page is nothing but a typical Rightwing hand waving piece of distraction. The Sesame Workshop is an independent non-profit production company, and is not a part of PBS or The Corporation for Public Broadcasting.

PBS has nothing to do with how much the president of the company makes (which is actually a very reasonable amount comparatively) and how much they have made on merchandizing sales. The fact that the Sesame Workshop is a non-profit and uses funds from corporate sponsors, donations, and merchandise sales to underwrite the majority of it's production costs actually means that the public is getting a real bargain. The amount that PBS pays to "purchase" the show to air on it's affiliated stations is only a small percentage of the actual production costs for the show.

Sigh...how typical of the Right lately though, to use an example of something that is actually working quite well and to the tax payers ultimate benefit to insinuate that loads of tax dollars are somehow being wasted. :(

re: #144 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You

The entire article which DF based his LGF page is nothing but a typical Rightwing hand waving piece of distraction. The Sesame Workshop is an independent non-profit production company, and is not a part of PBS or The Corporation for Public Broadcasting.

PBS has nothing to do with how much the president of the company makes (which is actually a very reasonable amount comparatively) and how much they have made on merchandizing sales. The fact that the Sesame Workshop is a non-profit and uses funds from corporate sponsors, donations, and merchandise sales to underwrite the majority of it's production costs actually means that the public is getting a real bargain. The amount that PBS pays to "purchase" the show to air on it's affiliated stations is only a small percentage of the actual production costs for the show.

Sigh...how typical of the Right lately though, to use an example of something that is actually working quite well and to the tax payers ultimate benefit to insinuate that loads of tax dollars are somehow being wasted. :(

What should we expect though, D_F just praised Romney for lying his ass off during the debate, thought that equate to "going big." Being lied to and regurgitated lies are a modern Republican's two most favorite activities.

re: #84 Gus

I hate liberal bullshit artists.

Yes, but it's organic bullshit.

re: #110 dragonath

Hey everybody, what was/is your favorite PBS show?

I still love Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego...

I'm old school.

I used to love the *old* Doctor Who reruns.

There was also this CBC program called "Seeing Things," a comedy-drama about a reporter with clairvoyance. Its hero was bald, middle-aged, wore glasses and didn't have a driver's license, so he would hit up his wife for rides to wherever his next vision would take him.

Here's a nice little gem, Glazunov's "2 Pieces for Cello and Orchestra":

George Romney - "The Republican Party must not exploit racial or religious prejudices...to gain a victory" tmblr.co/ZQ92cuUoHmvr #uppers

— James Carter (@JECarter4) October 7, 2012

re: #144 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You

The entire article which DF based his LGF page is nothing but a typical Rightwing hand waving piece of distraction. The Sesame Workshop is an independent non-profit production company, and is not a part of PBS or The Corporation for Public Broadcasting.

PBS has nothing to do with how much the president of the company makes (which is actually a very reasonable amount comparatively) and how much they have made on merchandizing sales. The fact that the Sesame Workshop is a non-profit and uses funds from corporate sponsors, donations, and merchandise sales to underwrite the majority of it's production costs actually means that the public is getting a real bargain. The amount that PBS pays to "purchase" the show to air on it's affiliated stations is only a small percentage of the actual production costs for the show.

Sigh...how typical of the Right lately though, to use an example of something that is actually working quite well and to the tax payers ultimate benefit to insinuate that loads of tax dollars are somehow being wasted. :(

Mitt Romney used "Big Bird" instead of "PBS" for two reasons:

1. Big Bird is a well-known character who appears on PBS. It was intended to make Mitt's message easier to grasp by identifying it with a particular character.

2. Mitt Romney's basic message about PBS and other government programs seen as extraneous was the same message as he has when he was a business consultant and later when he headed Bain Capital: The fact that a given thing or person is well-liked, even by him, will not save it if it is under-performing and/or non-essential at a time when the institution is swimming in red ink. Mitt can be honestly moved by that person or thing, but keeping it means hurting the needed turnaround effort Mitt will cut that thing or fire that person without hesitation.

Mitt's basic message distilled: I do not allow sentiment to interfere with proper fiscal policy and I always have my eye on making the turnaround work.

re: #146 BongCrodny

Yes, but it's organic bullshit.

Doesn't matter what you fed the bull, what comes out the other end is still shit.

re: #150 Dark_Falcon

But the article you posted duplicitiously and egregiously confused the issue.

2. Mitt Romney's basic message about PBS and other government programs seen as extraneous was the same message as he has when he was a business consultant and later when he headed Bain Capital: The fact that a given thing or person is well-liked, even by him, will not save it if it is under-performing and/or non-essential at a time when the institution is swimming in red ink. Mitt can be honestly moved by that person or thing, but keeping it means hurting the needed turnaround effort Mitt will cut that thing or fire that person without hesitation.

It's not underperforming, and non-essential is a subjective bit of bullshit. PBS isn't necessary. It is, however, good.

If Romney will fire people that are great performers who do good things in order to save a pittance, he's a moron.

re: #84 Gus

I'm always late to these things,but here in ATL there's a mall called Lennox Square. It's one of the most expensive places I think I've ever seen,with the exception of some shops on South Beach. 50 bucks for a hat or 400 bucks for a knit sweater jacket would be a sale price in some of those stores.

I can go to almost any store and get a white blouse and a white men's dress shirt and the blouse will cost more. Why? I have no idea. Hell,some places it even costs more to have a shirt cleaned and pressed for women's shirts than it does men's. This indigenous whatever store is nothing new,and it may not be run by liberals,it's just marketed for freaking hipster dipshits who don't know the value of a dollar.

re: #152 Sheeplord

But the article you posted duplicitiously and egregiously confused the issue.

It's not underperforming, and non-essential is a subjective bit of bullshit. PBS isn't necessary. It is, however, good.

If Romney will fire people that are great performers who do good things in order to save a pittance, he's a moron.

The question is: "should the US government being paying for 'good but not necessary', given its bad fiscal situation?" The answer to me is 'No'. Cutting PBS funding thus has relevance to illustrate what priorities will be. To honest though, it is also a way focusing attention from far more painful cuts that will have to be done. Cuts to pork like highway demonstration projects and also defense procurement reform that will likely cost hundreds of jobs (though some of them will made up by other jobs elsewhere in the country). Best to use PBS to avoid talking about that reality.

re: #150 Dark_Falcon

Mitt Romney's basic message about PBS and other government programs seen as extraneous was the same message as he has when he was a business consultant and later when he headed Bain Capital: The fact that a given thing or person is well-liked, even by him, will not save it if it is under-performing and/or non-essential at a time when the institution is swimming in red ink.

No, his basic message in talking about PBS is that he's pandering to the wingnut morons who want to kill PBS and NPR because they're seen as liberal indoctrination centers, and because those same wingnut morons think that PBS and NPR get a much larger slice of the federal pie than they do.

Talking about Big Bird has nothing to do with the money spent or any other fiscal bullshit you're trying to convince yourself of, and everything to do with the fact that even now, Mitt is still trying to win over the far right base a month from the election.

re: #154 Dark_Falcon

The question is: "should the US government being paying for 'good but not necessary', given its bad fiscal situation?"

First of all, that given is a false. We have a lower rate of interest repayments than we did twenty years ago. We have enormous amounts of untapped revenue in the form of taxation. Your given is a false assertion.

The answer to me is 'No'.

Necessary for what, Dark?

Cutting PBS funding thus has relevance to illustrate what priorities will be.

His priorities will be small parts of the budget that don't really fiscally matter but do fire up the anti-science, anti-education wing of the right?

Cuts to pork like highway demonstration projects and also defense procurement reform that will likely cost hundreds of jobs (though some of them will made up by other jobs elsewhere in the country). Best to use PBS to avoid talking about that reality.

So, to get it straight, he wasn't really talking about PBS, he was using it to hint at cuts to defense procurement, and you know this because how?

How does that many any goddamn sense in your head?

re: #156 Sheeplord

So, to get it straight, he wasn't really talking about PBS, he was using it to hint at cuts to defense procurement, and you know this because how?

How does that many any goddamn sense in your head?

He's not 'hinting', its just easier to focus on things like PBS because the real fiscal changes that are going to to need to be made will involve inflicting real pain on ordinary people. Mitt Romney would rather keep the debate to the easier stuff, rather than debate the hard choices. As to what that says about him, it says it says that he knows his limits and isn't going to walk onto ground where Obama could blow him away.

re: #157 Dark_Falcon

Mitt Romney would rather keep the debate to the easier stuff, rather than debate the hard choices. As to what that says about him, it says it says that he knows his limits and isn't going to walk onto ground where Obama could blow him away.

So basically, he's a coward.

No surprise there. He did, after all, protest FOR the Vietnam draft, then he ran and hid in a French castle.

re: #158 Lidane

So basically, he's a coward.

No surprise there. He did, after all, protest FOR the Vietnam draft, then he ran and hid in a French castle.

I don't consider that cowardice and Obama does the same thing. If either of the them started to really get into hard decisions about the budget in anything more than vague terms, the other man would bury the one who so dared under an avalanche of accusations of "cruelty", "allowing weakness" or 'being uncaring". Which is much of why we don't get real budget reform: Because both parties would rather demagogue each other's proposals to fire up their voters and scare the middle rather than act.

re: #156 Sheeplord

PBS is something like .00014 percent of the overall budget. It wouldn't do anything for the economy but throw alot of people out of work. Our tax dollars fund a portion of it so it remains public and not a corporate wasteland.

Conservatives can get back to me on Mitt's conservative spending(in the TRUE definition of the word) when he starts talking about cutting things that aren't insignificant. Like waste,fraud,incompetence and abuse in the defense budget. The cost of PBS for a year is less than a workday costs to run the Pentagon. If you want to go small,why not pick on Congressional salaries first,that's maybe half the amount spent on PBS when you throw in all the staff and office costs,plus other perks.

re: #159 Dark_Falcon

I don't consider that cowardice and Obama does the same thing. If either of the them started to really get into hard decisions about the budget in anything more than vague terms, the other man would bury the one who so dared under an avalanche of accusations of "cruelty", "allowing weakness" or 'being uncaring". Which is much of why we don't get real budget reform: Because both parties would rather demagogue each other's proposals to fire up their voters and scare the middle rather than act.

So Mitt's just "more of the same," another empty suit who won't tell us a damned thing because he's afraid it'll hurt his election chances. We're supposed to just have faith that he's gonna make the hard decisions we think need to be made, with no guarantee that he won't just blow it all off to help his reelection chances.

re: #161 Targetpractice

So Mitt's just "more of the same," another empty suit who won't tell us a damned thing because he's afraid it'll hurt his election chances. We're supposed to just have faith that he's gonna make the hard decisions we think need to be made, with no guarantee that he won't just blow it all off to help his reelection chances.

Mitt Romney isn't an empty suit, neither is Barack Obama for that matter. They both really do have some vision and ideas, but they are limited by the realities of political discourse. It is very hard for a politician to make the case for a budget cut that will inflict real pain: Many voters simply don't want to believe such cuts are ever needed and its almost always possible for other political parties to gain support by lambasting the cuts without suggesting a real alternative. It's stupid in many ways, but that's humanity.

re: #162 Dark_Falcon

Mitt Romney isn't an empty suit, neither is Barack Obama for that matter. They both really do have some vision and ideas, but they are limited by the realities of political discourse. It is very hard for a politician to make the case for a budget cut that will inflict real pain: Many voters simply don't want to believe such cuts are ever needed and its almost always possible for other political parties to gain support by lambasting the cuts without suggesting a real alternative. It's stupid in many ways, but that's humanity.

If he can't make the case now, how will he make it after he's elected?

re: #162 Dark_Falcon

Mitt Romney isn't an empty suit, neither is Barack Obama for that matter. They both really do have some vision and ideas, but they are limited by the realities of political discourse.

I know that Barack Obama has a vision and some ideas. He articulated them back in 2008 and he's tried his damndest to govern with them for the last four years.

I don't, however, have any sense of a vision or any real ideas from Mitt Romney BECAUSE HE WON'T ARTICULATE THEM. He's just running against Obama. He's not running for anything that I can see. He spent the entire first debate lying his ass off and publicly flipping on everything he's been running on for the past year. How is that supposed to inspire confidence that he's got any sort of vision for the Presidency other than as an entry on his resume?

It really re: #157 Dark_Falcon

He's not 'hinting', its just easier to focus on things like PBS because the real fiscal changes that are going to to need to be made will involve inflicting real pain on ordinary people. .

So he's unable to actually talk straight to the American people, and would rather bullshit them-- and yet somehow, you're able to see through this bullshit so it's not really bullshit after all. Do you honestly think that you're catching some wink-wink example Romney is giving but ordinary people can't?

In a bizarre-ass way, you're right, but not in the way you want to: Romney's attitude towards PBS clearly shows he has no clue what is valuable about government, and how it differs from business. He really would run it like a business. And since government is nothing like a business, in any way whatsoever, this would be a goddamn travesty.

Your continued attempts to magical balance fairy act really call for a comparison. You're claiming that both parties do this: Please provide an example.

re: #162 Dark_Falcon

And again, please define 'necessary'. What do you view as the necessary function of government? Is providing for the general welfare not part of it?

re: #82 Gus

Oh look. A knit coat for only 350.

Don't you care about THE CHILDREN!?

Joggers no doubt.

Wait--why are you making fun of fair trade items/companies? Yes their products cost more but the good ones reinvest a good share of profits back into the communities and people that work for them. Yeah, you could get something that looks similar that was made in a Chinese or Vietnamese sweatshop for 50 bucks, but cheaper doesn't always mean better.

This one is super cute. If I had the $160 right now, I'd buy it.

[Link: www.indigenous.com...]

re: #167 funky chicken

This town makes awesome stuff.

Otavalo

re: #123 dragonath

One last bit to add to my ongoing public television drama:

The same PBS station runs the McLaughlin Group by day, which makes me suspect that there is a resident wingnut in charge of public programming, oh irony of ironies.

I remember they dropped one of my favorite British comedies, Coupling, because some godbotherers complained about it and the Catholic diocese provides a good chunk of their funding.

Luckily the local cable company realized how craptacular this station is and added WHYY Philadelphia, which is pretty damn rad. I can even gnash my teeth listening to the wilting tones of David Brooks (when I want to).

I don't hack on WHYY since they're the main sponsor of Terry Gross and "Fresh Air", which is one of my favorite NPR shows.

re: #152 Sheeplord

But the article you posted duplicitiously and egregiously confused the issue.

It's not underperforming, and non-essential is a subjective bit of bullshit. PBS isn't necessary. It is, however, good.

If Romney will fire people that are great performers who do good things in order to save a pittance, he's a moron.

Not necessarily a moron, but someone who obviously values pittances a great deal more than doing good. Given recent history that sounds very Republican and very political.

re: #166 Sheeplord

And again, please define 'necessary'. What do you view as the necessary function of government? Is providing for the general welfare not part of it?

re: #152 Sheeplord

But the article you posted duplicitiously and egregiously confused the issue.

It's not underperforming, and non-essential is a subjective bit of bullshit. PBS isn't necessary. It is, however, good.

If Romney will fire people that are great performers who do good things in order to save a pittance, he's a moron.

OT: Randall's take on Chicago:

re: #171 Dark_Falcon

Do you not understand how the general welfare function of government would cover something that may not be strictly necessary, but which provides education, culture, and other public goods?

re: #171 Dark_Falcon

Dark, I'm asking you. What do you view as the necessary parts of government?

I don't think PBS is necessary, but I don't think almost anything is necessary. If I were to go by your metric, the government would be reduced to the courts-- that's all that's really 'necessary' in government.

So please, answer the question: What do you view as necessary in the government? Is it more than I do, or less?

re: #174 Sheeplord

Dark, I'm asking you. What do you view as the necessary parts of government?

I don't think PBS is necessary, but I don't think almost anything is necessary. If I were to go by your metric, the government would be reduced to the courts-- that's all that's really 'necessary' in government.

So please, answer the question: What do you view as necessary in the government? Is it more than I do, or less?

Well, I'm sure you'd add the police (and federal law enforcement), fire departments, and the military to the essential category.

re: #174 Sheeplord

Dark, I'm asking you. What do you view as the necessary parts of government?

I don't think PBS is necessary, but I don't think almost anything is necessary. If I were to go by your metric, the government would be reduced to the courts-- that's all that's really 'necessary' in government.

So please, answer the question: What do you view as necessary in the government? Is it more than I do, or less?

Things Republicans spend money on: good.

Things Republicans cut: bad.

With Democrats, it's the same, except you have to flip "good" and "bad".

re: #175 Dark_Falcon

Well, I'm sure you'd add the police (and federal law enforcement), fire departments, and the military to the essential category.

I think Fire Departments are an overrated government service. Let the poor's houses burn I say.

re: #175 Dark_Falcon

Well, I'm sure you'd add the police (and federal law enforcement), fire departments, and the military to the essential category.

I would also add all of the things that business doesn't want to do -- roads, bridges, basic infrastructure, etc.

Conservatives love to talk about what is "essential" and what isn't in government while conveniently skipping all of the things that business would refuse to do because there's no profit motive in it.

re: #178 Lidane

I would also add all of the things that business doesn't want to do -- roads, bridges, basic infrastructure, etc.

Conservatives love to talk about what is "essential" and what isn't in government while conveniently skipping all of the things that business would refuse to do because there's no profit motive in it.

Thing is - in practice conservatives pay for all this stuff (at the federal level at least) because they are highly aware that letting things actually fall apart would be massively unpopular.

The only difference between Republicans and Democrats at the national level is that Republicans don't have the fiscal responsibility to pay for things; they prefer to run up the deficit and kick the can down the road to a Democratic administration.

re: #177 iossarian

I think Fire Departments are an overrated government service. Let the poor's houses burn I say.

You said it, I didn't.

re: #180 Dark_Falcon

You said it, I didn't.

They also said it sarcastically. That much was obvious on first read.

re: #180 Dark_Falcon

You said it, I didn't.

Just espousing a 21st-century Republican position. Makes a lot of sense - who cares if poor people's houses burn down? They should have taken more responsibility.

re: #175 Dark_Falcon

Well, I'm sure you'd add the police (and federal law enforcement), fire departments, and the military to the essential category.

No, I wouldn't. Police are a maybe, but are really part of the courts. Fire departments and military are both provably not necessary in government.

But again: I'm asking you. What do you view as the necessary parts of government? Do they go beyond what I do-- do you think that fire departments are a necessary part of government (despite them being a relatively recent invention)?

Can you answer the question?

Morning you sucking off the gubmet teet honcos.

Mind boggling.

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It's pretty obvious to what's going on here.

Huh...
Hillsborough volunteer fire associations on brink of being extinguished
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Gingrich Concedes Romney Wasn’t Honest About His Tax Plan During Debate

re: #187 Gus

Gingrich Concedes Romney Wasn’t Honest About His Tax Plan During Debate

Even "the stupid man's idea of what a smart person sounds like" can figure it out. There's hope for America yet.

re: #187 Gus

Gingrich Concedes Romney Wasn’t Honest About His Tax Plan During Debate

We've got a saying up here in Maine, "If you don't like the weather -- wait a minute."

Mitt's positions are a lot like Maine weather.

backsun
busy backsun

re: #189 BongCrodny

We've got a saying up here in Maine, "If you don't like the weather -- wait a minute."

Mitt's positions are a lot like Maine weather.

The weather thingy was stolen from people in Florida. Damn it!!
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But. But. Romney won!

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re: #192 Gus

But. But. Romney won!

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Because he cheated by having a hanky!!!
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re: #183 Sheeplord

No, I wouldn't. Police are a maybe, but are really part of the courts. Fire departments and military are both provably not necessary in government.

But again: I'm asking you. What do you view as the necessary parts of government? Do they go beyond what I do-- do you think that fire departments are a necessary part of government (despite them being a relatively recent invention)?

Can you answer the question?

I think they are. If old Rome proved anything, its that its better the vigils who fight fires are employees of the state than employees of an ambitious man.

re: #194 Dark_Falcon

I think they are. If old Rome proved anything, its that its better the vigils who fight fires are employees of the state than employees of an ambitious man.

Okay, Dark, I'm not really interested in bickering over whether fire departments are necessary. I'm asking you what you consider to be necessary in government. You've noted fire departments, police, military, and courts. Is there anything else that's actually 'necessary' for government, in your view?

re: #193 Cannadian Club Akbar

Because he cheated by having a hanky!!!
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Definitely.

@nytjim @reince Flashback 2008: "McCain for president" Las Vegas Review-Journal - Important read. lvrj.com/opinion/312471... #p2 #tlot

— Gus (@Gus_802) October 7, 2012

re: #195 Sheeplord

Okay, Dark, I'm not really interested in bickering over whether fire departments are necessary. I'm asking you what you consider to be necessary in government. You've noted fire departments, police, military, and courts. Is there anything else that's actually 'necessary' for government, in your view?

The aqueduct?

re: #189 BongCrodny

We've got a saying up here in Maine, "If you don't like the weather -- wait a minute."

I used to say that about Texas weather. These days, it's more like this:

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re: #197 Gus

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The Las Vegas Review-Journal always endorses Republicans, so no shocker there.

So I need a little input and you guys are smart. My friend I live with uses booze as a gateway drug to other things (coke). And while I will never question what a person does with his/her own money, I don't want to add to this problem. But I also don't want to have my lifestyle hindered because he lacks self control. I guess the best thing to do is to not have booze in the house but I like having a cocktail. I am gonna sit with him today and have a chat. Thoughts? I am actually considering having him put money in my bank account to keep him from himself.

re: #200 Sionainn

The Las Vegas Review-Journal always endorses Republicans, so no shocker there.

[Link: mediamatters.org...]

re: #201 Cannadian Club Akbar

So I need a little input and you guys are smart. My friend I live with uses booze as a gateway drug to other things (coke). And while I will never question what a person does with his/her own money, I don't want to add to this problem. But I also don't want to have my lifestyle hindered because he lacks self control. I guess the best thing to do is to not have booze in the house but I like having a cocktail. I am gonna sit with him today and have a chat. Thoughts? I am actually considering having him put money in my bank account to keep him from himself.

I'm an alcoholic and I don't like to be around people drinking. At this point, I don't have any desire to drink, it's more just watching people's personalities change and I'm uncomfortable with that.

I don't know if your friend is actually interested in being sober or not. If not, then nothing is going to change. I personally wouldn't take on the job of being the money keeper. Your friend either wants to change or not. You can be supportive by encouraging him to join a group (my preference is not AA, but more of a cognitive therapy group, getting education and learning about one's triggers). You can suggest going to do things that don't involve booze and don't drink in front of him.

re: #202 Gus

[Link: mediamatters.org...]

That's true. No stories about Romney's remarks, which is par for the course with them. Additionally, if there is anything that makes schools or teachers look bad, they will publish it. I much prefer the Las Vegas Sun. They at least seem to care about the community.

re: #201 Cannadian Club Akbar

So I need a little input and you guys are smart. My friend I live with uses booze as a gateway drug to other things (coke). And while I will never question what a person does with his/her own money, I don't want to add to this problem. But I also don't want to have my lifestyle hindered because he lacks self control. I guess the best thing to do is to not have booze in the house but I like having a cocktail. I am gonna sit with him today and have a chat. Thoughts? I am actually considering having him put money in my bank account to keep him from himself.

People still do coke?

Are you saying when he drinks he likes to party, so he does some blow while he's drinking? Used to do that. Thought it meant I could drink more and not get drunk because I was 'amped'...then I'd get really fucking drunk and need more blow. Shit's hard to quit when you start doing it regularly, and if you get stopped by a cop and have a gram in your pocket, you can add felon to your list of accomplishments. Tell him that.

Or talk about how Jesus became your personal lord and savior. That takes all the party out of a guy.

Mornin' everyone.

re: #203 Sionainn

He is a weekend warrior. He doesn't rob, steal, cheat or anything. But dropping $300 in a weekend, to me, is a problem. He has been to NA but that only works for people who want it to work for them.

re: #203 Sionainn

I don't know if your friend is actually interested in being sober or not. If not, then nothing is going to change. I personally wouldn't take on the job of being the money keeper. Your friend either wants to change or not.

Bingo. It's true with most people.

re: #205 darthstar

Jesus in sitting in a county jail somewhere, because that's where people actually find him.:)

re: #206 Cannadian Club Akbar

He is a weekend warrior. He doesn't rob, steal, cheat or anything. But dropping $300 in a weekend, to me, is a problem. He has been to NA but that only works for people who want it to work for them.

Yes, that does sound like a problem and any kind of program will only work if you've had enough and need to change.

I used to drink on the weekends, partying until 8:00 in the morning. Then it started happening on work days and I was in real danger of losing my job and my apartment. I woke up one day with tremors and that scared the shit out of me. At that time, I worked for a psych hospital and we had a really great outpatient group that I attended that gave me a lot of support and information.

re: #208 Cannadian Club Akbar

Jesus in sitting in a county jail somewhere, because that's where people actually find him.:)

Not true...I saw him yesterday twirling around in Golden Gate Park while this guy was slapping out some funky twang on a dobro bass.
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re: #201 Cannadian Club Akbar

Just do what you can to keep him from fucking up your life. In general, you can't fix substance abuse problems in others. The rate of cure through AA is the same as the rate of random self-cure-- 5%. So if you don't want to see him fucking up, don't do stuff with him that involves drink and drugs.

But remember it's not your fault or responsibility.

re: #210 darthstar

Cowboy Junkies pics or it didn't happen.
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More than 20 arrested at Occupy protest in downtown SF

Group members, many of them reportedly wearing black clothing and black masks covering their faces, began to block traffic, Shyy said. Some also allegedly vandalized vehicles and businesses as they walked.

When officers arrived on the scene they were struck by projectiles allegedly thrown by group members, Shyy said. One officer received a non-life threatening injury to his head.
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Searches of the protestors' backpacks turned up items including hammers, an ice pick, flares and other weapons and bags of paint containing rocks.

KT will like this.

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re: #209 Sionainn

re: #211 Sheeplord

I guess my frustration is I can't tell him to stop doing shit while I am not following my rules for him. He is a former body builder (motorcycle accident put the kabash on that right before a competition) so maybe I'll encourage him to get back into it and join a gym. I would prefer a boxing club, though.

re: #215 Cannadian Club Akbar

re: #211 Sheeplord

I guess my frustration is I can't tell him to stop doing shit while I am not following my rules for him. He is a former body builder (motorcycle accident put the kabash on that right before a competition) so maybe I'll encourage him to get back into it and join a gym. I would prefer a boxing club, though.

Having said this, he is a "Gym Nazi".

Watching meet the press. My business just had the best 1/4 in three years. Sorry Newt.

— Tom Colicchio (@tomcolicchio) October 7, 2012

re: #212 Cannadian Club Akbar

Cowboy Junkies pics or it didn't happen.
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I left before the Junkies...had to get to the ball park. Kind of regret missing them.

re: #214 Gus

KT will like this.

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I do love the fact checkers.

There is a 24 hour gym right next to my work. Guess I'll bite the bullet and suggest that. I'm thin now (thank you, poverty!!) and some muscle toning/building would work for me. I am also at a point where I either grow my hair long or cut it short. I'll go for the stinky long haired hippie look with a bad ass structure. Thanks for helping me through this.:)

re: #219 Killgore Trout

I do love the fact checkers.

But. But. The USA is worse than Venezuela and South Africa!!

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re: #217 Blackity Black Black!

The economy is based on confidence. The GOP's strategy the last 4 years has been to scare people and reduce their confidence in order to stall the recovery to help their chances in this election.

re: #221 Gus

But. But. The USA is worse than Venezuela and South Africa!!

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Speaking of Venezuela, I wonder if Chavez will go peacefully if he loses the election.

re: #223 Killgore Trout

Speaking of Venezuela, I wonder if Chavez will go peacefully if he loses the election.

No. Fucking. Way.

re: #223 Killgore Trout

Speaking of Venezuela, I wonder if Chavez will go peacefully if he loses the election.

He Tweeted an update.

The income disparity chart I posted is incorrect, I apologize for passing along bad information soup.ps/VJVAek

— Anthony De Rosa (@AntDeRosa) October 6, 2012

re: #225 Gus

He Tweeted an update.

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This was 19 hours ago.

Of course his correction got 9 Retweets while the original has 207 Retweets and still growing.

Ugh, never rains it pours. First the dishwasher's timer craps out, so we end up buying a new one. Then the DVR's HDD went, so it now needs to be replaced. And finally, just as we're replacing the first and fiddling with the latter, we get a power surge in the circuit that the latter is on that fries the light fixture in the kitchen.

re: #227 Gus

Of course his correction got 9 Retweets while the original has 207 Retweets and still growing.

I thought it looked a bit suspicious..

re: #229 Mich-again

I thought it looked a bit suspicious..

Same here. That's why I went looking.

re: #228 Targetpractice

Ugh, never rains it pours. First the dishwasher's timer craps out, so we end up buying a new one. Then the DVR's HDD went, so it now needs to be replaced. And finally, just as we're replacing the first and fiddling with the latter, we get a power surge in the circuit that the latter is on that fries the light fixture in the kitchen.

I, personally, will never own a dishwasher.

re: #231 Cannadian Club Akbar

I, personally, will never own a dishwasher.

But I would like an ice maker that makes shaved ice.:)

re: #185 Gus

Mind boggling.

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It's pretty obvious to what's going on here.

Nothing like carrying a "message of solidarity" to folks who kill our own country's military members and stone their own country's women and girls for being raped.

re: #233 funky chicken

Nothing like carrying a "message of solidarity" to folks who kill our own country's military members and stone their own country's women and girls for being raped.

Yep. They're going to be used by the Taliban and AQ for propaganda purposes.

@political_bill Here's the video thkpr.gs/PLtWZ4

— SpreadTheWord (@word_34) October 7, 2012

re: #222 Mich-again

The economy is based on confidence. The GOP's strategy the last 4 years has been to scare people and reduce their confidence in order to stall the recovery to help their chances in this election.

This.

re: #233 funky chicken

Nothing like carrying a "message of solidarity" to folks who kill our own country's military members and stone their own country's women and girls for being raped.

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re: #222 Mich-again

The economy is based on confidence. The GOP's strategy the last 4 years has been to scare people and reduce their confidence in order to stall the recovery to help their chances in this election.

Something else the GOP sucks at, because consumer confidence has been rising despite their best efforts.

Errands. bbl

re: #234 Gus

Yep. They're going to be used by the Taliban and AQ for propaganda purposes.

The GOP will use them if they get killed. They love dead American activisits. You'd see Mitch McConnell, Mitt Romney, Paul Ryan, and John McCain wearing a Code Pink button in honor of these fallen victims of President Obama's foreign policy failures.

re: #240 darthstar

Not McCain.

Joe Walsh (the guitarist) performed live on ESPN this morning and when he sang he sounded like Adam Sandler trying to sound like Joe Walsh

— J M Sute (@71LesPaul) October 7, 2012

re: #241 funky chicken

Not McCain.

Why not? He's a bigger sell-out than Romney. He just pretends he used to be a respectable war hero anymore.

re: #242 Mich-again

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I've seen Ozzy 4X. Heroin really makes your voice better.
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re: #242 Mich-again

They're getting older, the artists we love. I was at a Furthur show last week and while the music is still off the hook, Bobby can't carry a note for very long and Phil sounds like an old man yawning into a microphone when he sings. But I love seeing them play and will continue to go for as long as they make themselves available.

re: #244 Cannadian Club Akbar

I've seen Ozzy 4X. Heroin really makes your voice better.
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Actually even in his prime Joe Walsh sang exactly the same. It was just bizarre hearing him belt out songs live and unplugged in the ESPN studio.

The mullahs need their thugs at home
'Iran withdraws elite Qods Force brigade from Syria'

'The Sunday Times' reports Iran has withdrawn 275 members of elite brigade from Syria in face of domestic economic crisis.

re: #223 Killgore Trout

Speaking of Venezuela, I wonder if Chavez will go peacefully if he loses the election.

Hahahahaha. You honestly think he's going to allow himself to lose?

Pfft.

Jihad of Islamophobes

Following on the successful #MySubwayAd campaign (disclosure: I was one of the organizers) to mock the racist ads members of the Islamophobia industry placed in New York City’s public transit system, Ahmed Rehab of CAIR-Chicago launched his own campaign, #MyJihad, designed as an “opportunity to get to the heart of the problem and to reclaim the word ‘Jihad.’”

He engaged with professional Islamophobe Robert Spencer, who apparently admits to practicing “jihad” himself. In response to Rehab asking what everyone’s “jihad” is, Spencer replied “mine is countering your hate & defamation w/ truth abt Islam & Hamas-linked CAIR.”

re: #248 Lidane

Hahahahaha. You honestly think he's going to allow himself to lose?

Pfft.

Like I said last night, I'm surprised the guy running against him is still vertical.

re: #250 Targetpractice

Like I said last night, I'm surprised the guy running against him is still vertical.

I'm surprised the guy running against him is allowed to roam around freely in public, never mind still being alive.

Chavez isn't going to let himself lose. The elections are just a formality, like elections in Cuba.

I have a guy I live with who was a soldier in this army.
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re: #251 Lidane

I'm surprised people even know the guy running against him is allowed to roam around freely in public, never mind still being alive.

Chavez isn't going to let himself lose. The elections are just a formality, like elections in Cuba.

Yeah, which is why I got a bit of a chuckle when I was told it was going to be a "close" election. Only way I could see it being "close" would be Chavez ordering the poll workers to keep it "close" so that he can brushes off accusations that the vote was rigged.

re: #109 freetoken

Are you referring to Recapitulation theory?

The one where the embryos go through all the previous phases of evolution of different ancestors...that's the one, right?