As the Server Hamsters Struggle

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You’ve probably noticed that LGF is running rather sluggishly today; it’s because there’s currently a link to LGF in the #5 spot on Reddit’s home page … and we’re getting hit with a massive surge of traffic. Hundreds of thousands of hits.

The Reddit link goes to Destro’s LGF Page about the privatization of TLC and the Honey Boo Boo atrocity. I saved an HTML-only static version of that page and set up a redirect, and that seems to be helping a bit, but the hamsters who power our web server are still running their furry little butts off — so you may experience delays until that post starts to move off Reddit’s front page.

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187 comments
1 Targetpractice  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 1:38:30pm

Capt'n, she cannae take much more of this!

2 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 1:54:16pm

Someone give the hamsters a five hour energy shot quick!

3 b_sharp  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 1:56:38pm

Moar power to the deflectors.

4 JamesWI  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 2:13:09pm
5 Charles Johnson  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 2:19:41pm

Man, that post is just a-hanging out on Reddit's front page. Still sending huge traffic.

When this dies down, I'm probably going to install varnish on LGF's web server.

6 Velvet Elvis  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 2:26:21pm

I waited out the time it took for comments to load to ask if you'd tried varnish. It's good stuff.

7 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 2:31:22pm

re: #4 JamesWI

[Embedded content]

Uhh...your cortex does not simply "switch off" due to a surface bacterial infection, and a neurosurgeon should know that better than most people. I notice he makes sure to repeat it multiple times though as if trying to assert it's veracity. Not much to see there really, just another case of "Lying for Jesus."

8 Gus  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 2:40:32pm

re: #4 JamesWI

[Embedded content]

Saw that. Someone call P.T. Barnum.

9 Political Atheist  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 2:41:30pm

Since the Page is static-The popular Destro Page seems to assume the private sector incapable or unwilling to have educational programming. Especially for kids. TLC has gone awry but the vacuum is filled elsewhere.

In the modern world of cable, streaming and broadcast as all available options there is lots of educational programming. And PBS certainly runs a lot of quaint shows that are not educational at all. Just entertainment. I guess nobody has seem How it's made, Universe, Through The Wormhole, etc.

Why should we use 1975 standards now? It's a different world of education and entertainment.

10 Gus  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 2:41:50pm

Eben Alexander MD
@LifeBeyondD
I had been an academic neurosurgeon 25 years, when I developed bacterial meningitis, and lapsed into coma. I was dumbstruck by the revelations of my journey!
Lynchburg, VA, USA

11 darthstar  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 2:44:05pm
12 Charles Johnson  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 2:45:23pm

OK, I think we're starting to come back to life, kinda, although I'm still getting occasional timeouts.

13 Political Atheist  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 2:47:31pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

Thank you for all the hard work.

14 JamesWI  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 2:51:52pm
15 wrenchwench  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 2:54:31pm

Here's the problem: slackers! The 47%!

Image: VNw-qtpqXEyLXuc-cyWb8w2.jpg

16 Gus  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 2:54:41pm
17 Gus  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 2:55:26pm

I made that. ;)

18 JamesWI  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 2:57:14pm

(Reposted from last thread, since that was in the middle of the server problems)

RealClearPolitics is getting even more desperate.

Gallup released 2 polls today. One is their traditional 7-day tracking poll, which goes from last Monday through Sunday (10/1-10/7). This poll has Obama ahead +5. This is the poll that RCP normally includes in the average.

The other poll is a three-day, post-debate poll from Thursday to Saturday (10/4-10/6). This one has the race tied.

RCP includes only the 3-day poll, saying it is is the "most recent." .....Um.....what?

19 Gus  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 2:59:21pm

Romney's ahead by 65/1000ths percent! Winning!

//

20 Targetpractice  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 3:01:13pm

Nate Silver noted that Romney's run in the polls seems to have plateaued, which jibes with what PPP was tweeting when it said its Saturday interviews read more like it's pre-debate polls. And while Romney's chances have risen in his forecast, they still haven't gotten above 25%.

21 Killgore Trout  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 3:06:30pm

re: #9 Daniel Ballard

Since the Page is static-The popular Destro Page seems to assume the private sector incapable or unwilling to have educational programming. Especially for kids. TLC has gone awry but the vacuum is filled elsewhere.

In the modern world of cable, streaming and broadcast as all available options there is lots of educational programming. And PBS certainly runs a lot of quaint shows that are not educational at all. Just entertainment. I guess nobody has seem How it's made, Universe, Through The Wormhole, etc.

Why should we use 1975 standards now? It's a different world of education and entertainment.

I think the whole issue will soon be moot anyways. TV networks won't last much longer, at least not is the sense that we think of them. Radio stations, record labels, movie studios, etc will also soon be gone. Internet makes self production and distribution easy and affordable. As long as people want Honey Boo Boo, there will be Honey boo boo. Not much can be done about that.

22 Charles Johnson  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 3:08:14pm

Wow, Destro's page is over 2800 points at Reddit - still at #12 on the home page. Funny how it suddenly caught on after several days - it was posted on the 5th.

23 Gus  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 3:12:14pm
24 jc717  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 3:20:36pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

Man, that post is just a-hanging out on Reddit's front page. Still sending huge traffic.

When this dies down, I'm probably going to install varnish on LGF's web server.

Definitely install a cashing system and offload any graphics/CSS files to a CDN.

25 Killgore Trout  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 3:20:47pm

re: #23 Gus

Romney foreign policy: How different from Obama's?

As to US relations with Israel, it does seem clear that a Romney administration would take a different tack, in that Romney vows to align the US more closely with Israeli interests. “The world must never see any daylight between our two nations,” he said.

On Syria, however, Romney said he’d work with allies to make sure rebels who “share our values” get the arms they need. That’s pretty much what’s going on now, though Romney might urge the transfer of more powerful weapons.

In Afghanistan, Romney hinted that Obama had pulled out troops too fast, but added, ”I will pursue a real and successful transition to Afghan security forces by the end of 2014.”

That’s the current Afghanistan timetable.

As for Iran, Romney has said that it should not get nuclear weapons capability. The Obama administration has been vaguer about exactly what line Iran should not cross. But Romney did not rattle sabers here, saying only that he’d impose new sanctions on Iran and tighten ones already in place.

Those are the tools the current administration says it will rely on for the time being to try to curb Tehran.

Both Obama and Romney have the same foreign policy goals, writes Daniel Drezner, a blogger for Foreign Policy magazine. They want a peaceful, stable Middle East, for example. That’s unsurprising.

Outrageous warmonger!

26 Targetpractice  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 3:24:04pm

re: #25 Killgore Trout

Romney foreign policy: How different from Obama's?

Outrageous warmonger!

So Romney gets up behind the podium and waxes at length about how the US needs a "stronger presence" in the Middle East during the "Arab Spring," but when he actually offers specifics, it comes out that he's cribbing from Obama's playbook.

Quelle surprise.

27 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 3:24:12pm

But what do we teach the children then?

theot58

Let's make a deal.
If I agree to keep my religion (Christianity) from our the public school system will you agree to keep your religion (Evolution/Atheism) out of the public school system.

What could be fairer than that?

False equivalency faerie incoming!

28 Targetpractice  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 3:25:47pm

re: #27 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You

But what do we teach the children then?

False equivalency faerie incoming!

"I'll keep my 2000+ yr old fairy tales out of a science classroom if you keep science out too!"

Yegods.

29 Gus  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 3:29:17pm
30 darthstar  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 3:34:53pm

I think I see part of the problem, Charles...there's a Romney/Ryan banner ad on your page and the servers are protesting.

31 Targetpractice  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 3:37:56pm

Nothing quite as amusing as watching that "liberal media" slobber all over Romney because of recent poll numbers in his direction. I was pretty sure fellatio was illegal on TV.

32 engineer cat  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 3:38:05pm

re: #18 JamesWI

(Reposted from last thread, since that was in the middle of the server problems)

RealClearPolitics is getting even more desperate.

Gallup released 2 polls today. One is their traditional 7-day tracking poll, which goes from last Monday through Sunday (10/1-10/7). This poll has Obama ahead +5. This is the poll that RCP normally includes in the average.

The other poll is a three-day, post-debate poll from Thursday to Saturday (10/4-10/6). This one has the race tied.

RCP includes only the 3-day poll, saying it is is the "most recent." .....Um.....what?

the regular gallup 7-day window tracking poll, which real clear politics seems to have lost interest in, had obama as close as only 3 pts ahead on sat and sun, but today the margin is back up to 5, so gallup appears to show that the debate bounce only lasted from thus to fri

33 engineer cat  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 3:39:01pm

re: #31 Targetpractice

Nothing quite as amusing as watching that "liberal media" slobber all over Romney because of recent poll numbers in his direction. I was pretty sure fellatio was illegal on TV.

tv is a place where small issues become large and large issues become small

34 Gus  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 3:40:17pm

That Honey Boo Boo page has a factual error in it. Reagan wasn't president in 1980.

35 moderatelyradicalliberal  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 3:44:17pm

re: #31 Targetpractice

Nothing quite as amusing as watching that "liberal media" slobber all over Romney because of recent poll numbers in his direction. I was pretty sure fellatio was illegal on TV.

Oh come on. You know the MSM was dying to slob Rich White Big Daddy's knob. This was going to happen between now and election day no matter what. They never wanted to give RWBD any bad press to begin with and wouldn't have it it weren't for him making such an obvious ass of himself for three months straight and that pesky 47% video.

Let them have their fun. In the meantime, the fundamentals of the race have not changed and Obama is still the favorite. Notice how they are only reporting on national polls and not swing state polls?

36 moderatelyradicalliberal  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 3:45:02pm

re: #32 engineer cat

the regular gallup 7-day window tracking poll, which real clear politics seems to have lost interest in, had obama as close as only 3 pts ahead on sat and sun, but today the margin is back up to 5, so gallup appears to show that the debate bounce only lasted from thus to fri

Gee.....I wonder what happened on Friday?

37 Gus  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 3:45:10pm

There's also an ironic twist involving the production company that produces Here Comes Honey Boo Boo episodes.

38 JamesWI  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 3:45:12pm

These guys can't handle a simple interview without running away, and we're supposed to believe they're going to be "tough" on China, Russia, Iran, etc. etc. etc.?

39 Gus  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 3:46:50pm

Oy. The hamsters are struggling.

40 wrenchwench  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 3:47:20pm
41 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 3:47:38pm

David Barton just does not seem to like liberalism, how strange.

David Barton

I tell you what, Richard gave a two word axiom that we ought to emblazon on everything we have: liberalism kills.

Liberalism kills, whether it's in the family; whether it's in a university; whether it's in education; whether it's in business; whether it's in government, and especially in denominations, liberalism kills.

That's a great axiom to remember is liberalism kills.

I know, I'm just as shocked as the rest of you are...

///

42 moderatelyradicalliberal  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 3:47:40pm

re: #38 JamesWI

[Embedded content]

These guys can't handle a simple interview without running away, and we're supposed to believe they're going to be "tough" on China, Russia, Iran, etc. etc. etc.?

Republicans will love it. They think that kind od behavior is very "alpha male".

43 Killgore Trout  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 3:47:44pm

re: #34 Gus

That Honey Boo Boo page has a factual error in it. Reagan wasn't president in 1980.

That's OK. We can blame wingnuts anyways.
/

44 Gus  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 3:51:56pm
45 Killgore Trout  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 3:53:40pm

re: #43 Killgore Trout

That's OK. We can blame wingnuts anyways.
/

Actually, since it was privatized in 1980 before Reagan the deal was probably in the works for at least a year before that. These things don't happen overnight. The deal was probably initiated in '78 or 79 leaving the lawyers enough time for negotiations and drawing up the legal papers. Most likely had nothing to do with Reagan.

46 JamesWI  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 3:54:12pm

re: #42 moderatelyradicalliberal

Republicans will love it. They think that kind od behavior is very "alpha male".

Nothing says "alpha male" like running away the moment a reporter asks a question you don't like!

Where's Ojoe? I know he gets excited when he sees "alpha males" in action like this.

47 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 3:54:48pm

LGF hamsters aren't the only ones hurting. The Hillsborough FL Supervisor of Elections is so overwhelmed with this next-to-last day's registrations that he is extending office work hours. Same likely in Pasco, our hunting ground.

Note that the organized TPGOP registration effort went away a week ago after their registration scandal.

48 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 3:56:04pm

re: #43 Killgore Trout

That's OK. We can blame wingnuts anyways.
/

I blame video games...

49 Political Atheist  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 3:56:16pm

re: #45 Killgore Trout

And of course he should have known better anyway. After all Honey Boo Boos Mom may actually have been born by then.

50 Killgore Trout  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 3:56:28pm

Ah, the redditors discovered the Reagan error too.

51 Killgore Trout  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 3:57:57pm

re: #48 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You

I blame video games...

I blame the Lindy Hop and indoor plumbing.

52 Cankles McCellulite  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 4:00:39pm

Oh thank goodness. I signed on for my daily news and NOTHING. Body went into DT's. started feeling like ma' skin was crawling with tiny Jim Hoft bugs and hallucinating Pam was slappin' the pudding out of my mouth because "FU**IN' JIHAD!"

53 darthstar  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 4:06:33pm
54 moderatelyradicalliberal  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 4:09:54pm

re: #53 darthstar

[Embedded content]

I guess he's not as good a liar as R-Money. R-Money would've simply continued to tell bold faced lies and the MSM would've given him a tongue bath for his commanding performance.

P.S. one of the reasons Obama is ahead is because of his relationship with local media. It allows him to get his message around the MSM.

55 darthstar  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 4:11:14pm

...

56 darthstar  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 4:12:08pm

Ugh...

twitter.com/TheObamaDiary/status/255430124084817920

Check it out.

57 moderatelyradicalliberal  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 4:18:19pm

re: #56 darthstar

Ugh...

twitter.com/TheObamaDiary/status/255430124084817920

Check it out.

Willard needs to stay away from small children.

58 Killgore Trout  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 4:19:39pm

I haven't watched American TV in years but I will watch tv from the UK. They will air documentaries or serious news shows in prime time because people will actually watch them. I actually prefer the privately owned Chanel 4 over the publicly funded BCC. Private ownership isn't really a factor.
There were tons of cool cable networks in the 80's and 90's. A&E used to show artsy movies, MTV showed music videos, the learning channel was educational and the history channel was historical. They've gone to shit for a whole bunch of reasons but mostly because audiences change with the times. So it goes.

59 dragonath  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 4:24:47pm

I saw this interesting caption earlier:

Romney Advisers: Romney Will Return To Foreign Policy Of Truman And Reagan

How ironic, Eisenhower ran on a peace plank and Republicans excoriated Truman as the man "who lost China" for the remainder of the cold war.

60 darthstar  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 4:26:01pm
61 Targetpractice  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 4:26:04pm

re: #59 dragonath

I saw this interesting caption earlier:

How ironic, Eisenhower ran on a peace plank and Republican's excoriated Truman as the man "who lost China" for the remainder of the cold war.

Ah, so we're back to propping up dictators in order to ensure the status quo?

62 darthstar  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 4:26:35pm

re: #57 moderatelyradicalliberal

Willard needs to stay away from small children.

Now you sound like his mother.

63 Destro  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 4:26:59pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

Sorry!

64 darthstar  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 4:27:08pm

BTW, LGF opened nicely just now.

65 Targetpractice  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 4:27:34pm

re: #63 Destro

Sorry!

Dude, you broke the precious thing! What have you to say for yourself?!

///

66 Gus  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 4:28:20pm
67 Stanghazi  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 4:29:30pm

Well I'm assuming we all had a very unusually productive day at work.

68 Achilles Tang  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 4:30:17pm

I've been trying to get on from time to time for hours. Fame is not always a good thing.

But I have noticed one thing; that the page hits on the page in question is different each time I partially get on and often goes down from a high of 68k, not up.

Is that from cache. Still, has there ever been a page hit as high as this?

69 darthstar  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 4:30:43pm

re: #67 Blackity Black Black!

Well I'm assuming we all had a very unusually productive day at work.

Yeah...I actually got shit done. Thanks a lot, Charles. On the plus side, my boss got a bottle of Knob Creek from another manager and poured a couple of fingers into my cup before he left.

70 Destro  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 4:31:14pm

re: #34 Gus

That Honey Boo Boo page has a factual error in it. Reagan wasn't president in 1980.

I wrote Reaganism as in his ideology.

71 Alexzander  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 4:32:25pm

The article is off the front page but it will probably linger on /r/politics for another 10 hours I'd guess.

72 Targetpractice  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 4:32:41pm

re: #67 Blackity Black Black!

Well I'm assuming we all had a very unusually productive day at work.

Indeed, though I was away from my computer, so I can't blame the downtime. It seems that, despite it being a federal holiday and despite the rain that's been falling off-and-on through the day, we had a busy day at the shop.

But, of course, I'm sure this has absolutely nothing to do with more people having jobs or confidence in the economy...///

73 erik_t  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 4:33:05pm

Well, hello everyone!

computer coughs up a chicken bone

74 PhillyPretzel  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 4:33:28pm

test message. wow this site is really slow.

75 Targetpractice  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 4:33:52pm

re: #74 PhillyPretzel

test message. wow this site is really slow.

Hit the fast-forward button.

76 Gus  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 4:33:57pm

Ugh. This is driving me crazy. BBL

77 dragonath  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 4:34:02pm

Sometimes I wonder how things would have looked if Carter had stood against the beginning of deregulation. It's not so well known that Airline Privatization passed with Carter's blessing.

I think I read somewhere that the airlines now receive more subsidies than all of Amtrak does.

78 Alexzander  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 4:34:13pm

re: #76 Gus

Ugh. This is driving me crazy. BBL

What is?

79 darthstar  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 4:34:32pm

re: #74 PhillyPretzel

test message. wow this site is really slow.

It's a nice reminder of why I don't miss dial-up.

80 Destro  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 4:35:15pm

re: #65 Targetpractice

Dude, you broke the precious thing! What have you to say for yourself?!

///

I break a lot of things.

81 PhillyPretzel  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 4:35:17pm

I finally got in. I have been trying for a few hours.

82 Targetpractice  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 4:36:19pm

re: #80 Destro

I break a lot of things.

Aha, so you admit it! Well, it's an open and shut case. Off with his head!

//

83 Alexzander  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 4:36:19pm

re: #81 PhillyPretzel

I finally got in. I have been trying for a few hours.

I was lucky enough to log-in early this morning and comment on Destro's post being picked up by Reddit before things completely collapsed.

84 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 4:36:32pm

re: #9 Daniel Ballard

Since the Page is static-The popular Destro Page seems to assume the private sector incapable or unwilling to have educational programming. Especially for kids. TLC has gone awry but the vacuum is filled elsewhere.

In the modern world of cable, streaming and broadcast as all available options there is lots of educational programming. And PBS certainly runs a lot of quaint shows that are not educational at all. Just entertainment. I guess nobody has seem How it's made, Universe, Through The Wormhole, etc.

Why should we use 1975 standards now? It's a different world of education and entertainment.

Quite Concur.

85 Cinnabar  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 4:37:42pm

Still slow... but at least I can see the page!

(We now have another reason not to love Honey Boo Boo.)

86 Destro  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 4:38:59pm

re: #9 Daniel Ballard

Since the Page is static-The popular Destro Page seems to assume the private sector incapable or unwilling to have educational programming. Especially for kids. TLC has gone awry but the vacuum is filled elsewhere.

In the modern world of cable, streaming and broadcast as all available options there is lots of educational programming. And PBS certainly runs a lot of quaint shows that are not educational at all. Just entertainment. I guess nobody has seem How it's made, Universe, Through The Wormhole, etc.

Why should we use 1975 standards now? It's a different world of education and entertainment.

Hell's yea! Thanks to the History channel I now know Hitler was linked to ancient aliens!!!! Thank you, for profit television!

87 dragonath  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 4:39:19pm

re: #9 Daniel Ballard

Since the Page is static-The popular Destro Page seems to assume the private sector incapable or unwilling to have educational programming. Especially for kids. TLC has gone awry but the vacuum is filled elsewhere.

In the modern world of cable, streaming and broadcast as all available options there is lots of educational programming. And PBS certainly runs a lot of quaint shows that are not educational at all. Just entertainment. I guess nobody has seem How it's made, Universe, Through The Wormhole, etc.

Why should we use 1975 standards now? It's a different world of education and entertainment.

There are certain constants in standards. Anyway... WHERE has the vacuum been filled? Half the country doesn't even have high speed internet, if that's what you were thinking.

88 JamesWI  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 4:39:35pm

re: #84 Dark_Falcon

Quite Concur.

And where exactly is this great fountain of educational programming in commercial TV? I'm certainly not seeing it on any channels I have. Every channel that had any educational value has been replaced by "reality" freak shows.

89 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 4:40:22pm

re: #79 darthstar

It's a nice reminder of why I don't miss dial-up.

Or the days before the undersea fiber optic cables to Alaska, dial-up with satellite delay.

*shivers*

90 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 4:41:57pm

re: #70 Destro

I wrote Reaganism as in his ideology.

But the Wiki page you link to contains no information about why the decision was taken by a Democratic administration to privatize the channel. Thus to associate the decision with Reagan is not appropriate. Reserve your anger for Jimmy Carter.

91 Destro  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 4:44:13pm

re: #90 Dark_Falcon

But the Wiki page you link to contains no information about why the decision was taken by a Democratic administration to privatize the channel. Thus to associate the decision with Reagan is not appropriate. Reserve your anger for Jimmy Carter.

As in Reagan Democrats? Who said I was being pro Democrat ? I was being anti-privatization and showing what happens when you allow for profit to take over your reason for being.

92 Targetpractice  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 4:44:34pm

I will admit I was beginning to have withdrawal symptoms when I finally got home. Was afraid I wouldn't get a chance to indulge in some political junkie hijinks before XCOM releases at midnight.

93 dragonath  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 4:45:30pm

re: #90 Dark_Falcon

Carter may have erred (and you should be giving him props for this, since you think it's such a great idea), but at least he didn't bring the world James Goddam Watt.

94 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 4:46:18pm

re: #88 JamesWI

And where exactly is this great fountain of educational programming in commercial TV? I'm certainly not seeing on any channels I have. Every channel that had any educational value has been replaced by "reality" freak shows.

Well, NASA still has its own NASA Channel. The National Geographic Channel is good. Discovery Channel itself is often decent.

And moreover, so the heck what? Those channels don't travel over the public airwaves and they are beamed from satellites not owned by the federal government. In short, Government Didn't Build That!

95 Targetpractice  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 4:47:34pm

re: #94 Dark_Falcon

Well, NASA still has its own NASA Channel. The National Geographic Channel is good. Discovery Channel itself is often decent.

And moreover, so the heck what? Those channels don't travel over the public airwaves and they are beamed from satellites not owned by the federal government. In short, Government Didn't Build That!

I was unaware that there were private launch facilities out there.

96 Killgore Trout  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 4:48:05pm

re: #90 Dark_Falcon

But the Wiki page you link to contains no information about why the decision was taken by a Democratic administration to privatize the channel. Thus to associate the decision with Reagan is not appropriate. Reserve your anger for Jimmy Carter.

Redditors also noted that congress was also Dem at the time. The deal preceded Reaganism by years.

97 dragonath  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 4:48:51pm

Best channel on TV, for me at least, is Turner Classic Movies. But that's sort of a hobby horse of an eccentric liberal billionaire.

We need more of that!

98 JamesWI  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 4:48:59pm

re: #94 Dark_Falcon

Well, NASA still has its own NASA Channel. The National Geographic Channel is good. Discovery Channel itself is often decent.

And moreover, so the heck what? Those channels don't travel over the public airwaves and they are beamed from satellites not owned by the federal government. In short, Government Didn't Build That!

Way to completely miss the point! Unless "It's great that formerly educational channels have turned into garbage, I hope PBS does the same if they go private!" is the argument you wish to make.

99 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 4:49:21pm

re: #96 Killgore Trout

Redditors also noted that congress was also Dem at the time. The deal preceded Reaganism by years.

Indeed. But the facts have never stopped Destro from hating on anything right of Bernie Sanders.

100 Killgore Trout  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 4:49:58pm

re: #97 dragonath

Best channel on TV, for me at least, is Turner Classic Movies. But that's sort of a hobby horse of an eccentric liberal billionaire.

We need more of that!

Do they still colorize all the black and white movies?

101 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 4:50:06pm

re: #98 JamesWI

Way to completely miss the point! Unless "It's great that formerly educational channels have turned into garbage, I hope PBS does the same if they go private!" is the argument you wish to make.

This was the point.

102 wrenchwench  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 4:50:50pm

re: #95 Targetpractice

I was unaware that there were private launch facilities out there.

Soon!

Oh, wait. There's a ton of tax money involved. Three counties decided to levy sales taxes on themselves to get it going, besides other NM state money.

103 Obdicut  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 4:50:59pm

re: #90 Dark_Falcon

But the Wiki page you link to contains no information about why the decision was taken by a Democratic administration to privatize the channel. Thus to associate the decision with Reagan is not appropriate. Reserve your anger for Jimmy Carter.

I think the Wiki history of TLC is actually weak in general.

I found this:

[Link: www.eric.ed.gov...]

Intended to provide a comprehensive picture of the Appalachian Community Service Network (ACSN), this report documents its evolution from a federally funded regional educational experiment to a nonprofit corporation delivering educational and informational programming via commercial satellite to cable subscribers across the nation; ACSN's changing objectives, organizational structure and programming emphasis in response to the commercial marketplace; and the corporation's plans to capitalize on foreseeable opportunities. A general, interpretative account is given of the background history of the Appalachian Educational Satellite Project (AESP) experiment, which supplied graduate credit courses to teachers located in remote areas of the Appalachian region using an experimental NASA (National Aeronautics and Space Administration) satellite from 1972 to 1975. The maintenance, refinement, and expansion of the original mission of AESP from 1976 to 1978 are described, including the development of a strong research and evaluation program to guide network operations. The incorporation of ACSN in 1979 as an independent agency is documented, and it is noted that the network provided 64 hours per week of programming to more than 1.5 million homes in 42 states in 1982. A look at current needs and problems and speculations on the future of the network conclude the report. A number of exhibits and appendices are included. (LMM)

That indicates that it was a non-profit network through 1982. I'm not sure where the privatized in 1980 thing comes from-- it seems like if incorporation as a separate non-profit is 'privatization' then it should be in 1979, but the important transition is from non-profit to for-profit.

104 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 4:51:21pm

I'm looking at the new Pew polling breakdown, their likely voter breakdown not only seems to under sample Hispanics by 2% compared to their own LV model, it also list the actual likely Hispanic vote as - -, as in no breakdown, at all. It's a single, glaring omission in an otherwise thorough looking report. In the same report alongside this "data" they list the previous poll's Hispanic breakdown as 77% to 22% but give no breakdown for this poll. It's weird, on the surface it looks pretty unprofessional, like they just dropped the actual Hispanic numbers from consideration, lost them or refused to publish them or include them in the final calculation. I know that Obama didn't help himself in the debate, but I'm seeing some bending over backwards with methodology to reinforce that point.

105 OhNoZombies!  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 4:51:32pm

OhThankGod !!!
I was starting to get all twitchy.

106 Targetpractice  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 4:53:03pm

re: #102 wrenchwench

Soon!

Oh, wait. There's a ton of tax money involved. Three counties decided to levy sales taxes on themselves to get it going, besides other NM state money.

Yeah, my point exactly. None existed prior to, surprise surprise, the proliferation of private space efforts in the wake of government-sponsored contests like the X Prize and current efforts to foster private sector answers to the need for transportation to and from the ISS for cargo and crew.

Hell, even SpaceX's launch yesterday was from Cape Canaveral.

107 Killgore Trout  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 4:54:13pm

re: #103 Sheeplord

I think the Wiki history of TLC is actually weak in general.

I found this:

[Link: www.eric.ed.gov...]

That indicates that it was a non-profit network through 1982. I'm not sure where the privatized in 1980 thing comes from-- it seems like if incorporation as a separate non-profit is 'privatization' then it should be in 1979, but the important transition is from non-profit to for-profit.

Good link. Thanks for posting.

108 dragonath  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 4:54:21pm

re: #100 Killgore Trout

No. I guess you don't watch Turner Classic then. That was kind of the entire point. No colorization or commercials.

109 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 4:56:26pm

re: #1 Targetpractice

Capt'n, she cannae take much more of this!

(We've secretly replaced the Enterprise's dilithium crystals with new Folger's Crystals . . .)

110 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 4:56:37pm

Gotta get going. Keep these folks on their toes, Killgore!

111 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 4:58:07pm

re: #104 goddamnedfrank

I just posted the link to the data, take a look for yourselves. For all the world it looks like this time around they just pretended that while Hispanics might exist in theory, they won't actually vote for either candidate.

Coming from Pew, which has a decent reputation for professional conduct, that's one fucking weird ass assumption.

112 dragonath  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 5:00:28pm

re: #94 Dark_Falcon

Those channels don't travel over the public airwaves and they are beamed from satellites not owned by the federal government. In short, Government Didn't Build That!

Satellites more likely than not put into orbit by government rockets at a government Space Station, yeah.

The government hurr durr.

113 Stanghazi  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 5:01:00pm

re: #97 dragonath

Best channel on TV, for me at least, is Turner Classic Movies. But that's sort of a hobby horse of an eccentric liberal billionaire.

We need more of that!

So agree. Robert Osborne's voice is butter.

114 Targetpractice  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 5:01:21pm

re: #111 goddamnedfrank

I just posted the link to the data, take a look for yourselves. For all the world it looks like this time around they just pretended that while Hispanics might exist in theory, they won't actually vote for either candidate.

Coming from Pew, which has a decent reputation for professional conduct, that's one fucking weird ass assumption.

John Marshall postulated on TPM that Pew may have front-loaded most of its polling to the first two days after the debate, which would explain why it's outta sync with the rest of the tracking polls. Any indication of that in the data?

115 JamesWI  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 5:02:42pm

re: #104 goddamnedfrank

I'm looking at the new Pew polling breakdown, their likely voter breakdown not only seems to under sample Hispanics by 2% compared to their own LV model, it also list the actual likely Hispanic vote as - -, as in no breakdown, at all. It's a single, glaring omission in an otherwise thorough looking report. In the same report alongside this "data" they list the previous poll's Hispanic breakdown as 77% to 22% but give no breakdown for this poll. It's weird, on the surface it looks pretty unprofessional, like they just dropped the actual Hispanic numbers from consideration, lost them or refused to publish them or include them in the final calculation. I know that Obama didn't help himself in the debate, but I'm seeing some bending over backwards with methodology to reinforce that point.

I wonder if it's just that, for some reason, this poll sample didn't include enough Hispanic voters to make an actual breakdown feasible. (i.e. if you only had 10 and they all were Obama voters, it would give you 100%, but you wouldn't want to report that 100% of Latinos will vote for Obama, because that would make you look like an idiot).

In which case, it would still be shoddy polling, just not intentionally or maliciously so, as it looks like you're thinking it may be.

116 blueraven  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 5:05:16pm

I dont think the Pew Poll is a bad poll, I just think its a bit of an outlier at this point.

The sample is who they get.


Looks to me the polls have kind of reverted back to where they were before the 47% comments.

117 dragonath  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 5:05:46pm

re: #113 Blackity Black Black!

Oh yeah.

Cool and informative.

118 blueraven  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 5:06:08pm

re: #116 blueraven

I dont think the Pew Poll is a bad poll, I just think its a bit of an outlier at this point.

The sample is who they get.

Looks to me the polls have kind of reverted back to where they were before the 47% comments.

RCP on the other hand....could they be more obvious?

119 Charles Johnson  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 5:06:39pm

If anybody wants to fight about TLC and Honey Boo Boo, I've now restored the dynamic version of the page. Commenting is open again.

120 JamesWI  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 5:06:54pm

A Pastor speaking before Paul Ryan comes out at a rally:

Jesus Christ....I know the whole "I'm moving to Canada" thing is over-played....but if people like this take over this country, I just might have to.

121 Targetpractice  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 5:06:54pm

re: #116 blueraven

I dont think the Pew Poll is a bad poll, I just think its a bit of an outlier at this point.

The sample is who they get.

Looks to me the polls have kind of reverted back to where they were before the 47% comments.

Things have tightened up, but not such that Romney is doing better than he was, say, before the 47% comments came to light. I think that, between the quickness of the Obama campaign to weaponizing Willard's debate remarks, as well as the Friday UE numbers, whatever bump he obtained in the polls has plateaued.

122 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 5:09:12pm

re: #94 Dark_Falcon

Well, NASA still has its own NASA Channel. The National Geographic Channel is good. Discovery Channel itself is often decent.

And moreover, so the heck what? Those channels don't travel over the public airwaves and they are beamed from satellites not owned by the federal government. In short, Government Didn't Build That!

All satellite communications occur over leased public spectrum genius.

re: #115 JamesWI

I wonder if it's just that, for some reason, this poll sample didn't include enough Hispanic voters to make an actual breakdown feasible. (i.e. if you only had 10 and they all were Obama voters, it would give you 100%, but you wouldn't want to report that 100% of Latinos will vote for Obama, because that would make you look like an idiot).

In which case, it would still be shoddy polling, just not intentionally or maliciously so, as it looks like you're thinking it may be.

They claim to have polled 70 Hispanics total, the Whites and Blacks listed are specified as non-Hispanic. They also claim that 57 Hispanics made it into the likely voter category, but there's no breakdown. The odds of all 57 giving a unanimous response are pretty damned steep.

123 Ghost of Tom Joad  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 5:11:10pm

re: #120 JamesWI

A Pastor speaking before Paul Ryan comes out at a rally:

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Jesus Christ....I know the whole "I'm moving to Canada" thing is over-played....but if people like this take over this country, I just might have to.

He didn't get banned, he grabbed what little shit he had and hopped on the first bus outta here.

124 JamesWI  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 5:11:13pm

re: #122 goddamnedfrank

All satellite communications occur over public airwaves genius, spectrumre: #115 JamesWI

They claim to have polled 70 Hispanics total, the Whites and Blacks listed are specified as non-Hispanic. They also claim that 57 Hispanics made it into the likely voter category, but there's no breakdown. The odds of all 57 giving a unanimous response are pretty damned steep.

Well, the unanimous thing was just a simple example. But 57 seems like it could be considered too few to have an accurate breakdown. The margin of error on a group that small would be huge.

125 erik_t  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 5:11:27pm

re: #116 blueraven

I dont think the Pew Poll is a bad poll, I just think its a bit of an outlier at this point.

The sample is who they get.

Looks to me the polls have kind of reverted back to where they were before the 47% comments.

If you report your poll with a 95% confidence interval, you expect to land outside your claimed margins 5% of the time. One poll in twenty times eleven metric craptons of polls = some polls are going to look really weird.

It's not rocket science.

126 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 5:12:27pm

re: #114 Targetpractice

John Marshall postulated on TPM that Pew may have front-loaded most of its polling to the first two days after the debate, which would explain why it's outta sync with the rest of the tracking polls. Any indication of that in the data?

Not that I can tell. The omission of breaking down an entire ethnicity that comprised (Correction) 7.4% of actual 2008 voters is the big standout.

127 Targetpractice  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 5:13:22pm

re: #126 goddamnedfrank

Not that I can tell. The omission of breaking down an entire ethnicity that comprised 9.7% of actual 2008 voters is the big standout.

Certainly, but I'm not sure that would be enough to throw the poll totally out of whack.

128 b_sharp  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 5:15:24pm

How the hell did you guys get in here, I've had the door locked the entire day.

129 Targetpractice  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 5:15:51pm

re: #128 reflections of a raging redneck

How the hell did you guys get in here, I've had the door locked the entire day.

Yeah, about that, you're gonna need to replace that window in the dining room.

130 wrenchwench  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 5:16:37pm

re: #128 reflections of a raging redneck

How the hell did you guys get in here, I've had the door locked the entire day.

Image: i-has-an-elivater1.jpg

131 Charles Johnson  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 5:18:18pm

I hope everyone saw this day as an opportunity to actually get some work done.

Me, I took a bubble bath and played with my rubber ducky.

/

132 b_sharp  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 5:20:59pm

Bars on the windows. That's the only solution.
Oh, and cats. Lots of cats.

133 engineer cat  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 5:21:31pm

re: #100 Killgore Trout

Do they still colorize all the black and white movies?

definitely not!

134 jamesfirecat  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 5:21:55pm

You know what I hate?

Videogame companies that use DRM and decide to put the key on the instruction manual rather than the CD case.


It's like they do it just so that you're more likely to loose it and thus have to buy a new one off of them.

(And I'm more the fool for buying special edition versions of the C&C games since it makes it that much harder to find floating cd keys for them online...)

135 Charles Johnson  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 5:22:27pm

Yep ... still plenty of traffic coming from Reddit even though the Honey Boo Boo page has slipped off their front page:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

136 b_sharp  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 5:22:54pm

re: #134 jamesfirecat

You know what I hate?

Videogame companies that use DRM and decide to put the key on the instruction manual rather than the CD case.

It's like they do it just so that you're more likely to loose it and thus have to buy a new one off of them.

(And I'm more the fool for buying special edition versions of the C&C games since it makes it that much harder to find floating cd keys for them online...)

Tape the key to the side of your 'puter.

137 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 5:23:56pm

re: #124 JamesWI

Well, the unanimous thing was just a simple example. But 57 seems like it could be considered too few to have an accurate breakdown. The margin of error on a group that small would be huge.

It's big but publishable. If your population for Hispanic voters is 9.7 million as it was in 2008 then the margin of error on a sample size of 57 is 13. It also raises the point that such under sampling is itself a bad practice, especially when the percentage being under represented is statistically significant.

Corrected above 2008 Hispanic vote was ~7.4% of total votes cast. Does anybody really think that percentage is going down this year? Look at that percentage by the old breakdown 77% obama = 5.56%. Now take out Romney's portion and there's a 1.7% shift implied in omitting Hispanics from the final tally.

138 engineer cat  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 5:24:40pm

re: #116 blueraven

I dont think the Pew Poll is a bad poll, I just think its a bit of an outlier at this point.

The sample is who they get.

Looks to me the polls have kind of reverted back to where they were before the 47% comments.

a good indication is that not only does gallup have obama up two points over romney today vs yesterday, but also rassmussen had romney two pts up for the past two days and now has them tied

i'm assuming thus and fri were the days when romney got his bounce and saturnday's numbers for everybody showed it dropping off quickly

139 erik_t  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 5:24:53pm

re: #136 reflections of a raging redneck

Tape the key to the side of your 'puter.

Pfft. Sharpie on the CD.

140 Killgore Trout  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 5:26:18pm
141 jamesfirecat  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 5:27:26pm

re: #136 reflections of a raging redneck

Tape the key to the side of your 'puter.

Little late for that as I seem to have lost my instruction manual for Red Alert 3.

Luckily my brother owns the vanillia version of the game so I can borrow his and find a crack for it (he lost his manual also) and find a crack for it more easily.

That or if I have to it's going for like $12 on amazon.

Though of course on the other hand I've sort of wanted to boycott C&C since how they screwed up C&C 4...

142 Obdicut  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 5:28:03pm

re: #140 Killgore Trout

Katy Perry dons an Obama manicure for fundraiser
Boobs.

Those are actually fingernails.

143 Ghost of Tom Joad  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 5:28:04pm

re: #134 jamesfirecat

If it's old enough, should be fairly easy to find a key online.

Another route is to check to see if you registered the game with the company's website. Sometimes they hold onto that information if you log in and check.

144 Killgore Trout  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 5:28:40pm

re: #133 engineer cat

definitely not!

Cool. I haven't had cable tv for a very long time. It used to be an issue but I guess it's now been solved.

145 jamesfirecat  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 5:29:11pm

re: #143 Ghost of Tom Joad

If it's old enough, should be fairly easy to find a key online.

Another route is to check to see if you registered the game with the company's website. Sometimes they hold onto that information if you log in and check.

Like I said, I bought the special edition so I'm faily certain it has a different set of keys than the vanillia, so I'm gonna see about borrowing my brother's vanillia copy this weekend.

146 Killgore Trout  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 5:29:41pm

re: #142 Sheeplord

Those are actually fingernails.

Sorry, my synapses misfire when I see the words "Katy Perry"

147 Ghost of Tom Joad  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 5:32:15pm

re: #146 Killgore Trout

Sorry, my synapses misfire when I see the words "Katy Perry"

Friend "So, did you hear about Katy Perry?"
Me "SEX TAPE??"
Friend "No."
Me "Piss off."

148 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 5:32:44pm

re: #138 engineer cat

i'm assuming thus and fri were the days when romney got his bounce and saturnday's numbers for everybody showed it dropping off quickly

Most of the so called liberal media took a powder for a couple days to boost ratings and then some of them got off their asses and decided to actually call Romney out on his cavalcade of lies.

Not sure it mattered much though, the Republicans here have made it clear that they actually like being lied to.

149 engineer cat  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 5:34:03pm

re: #142 Sheeplord

Those are actually fingernails.

Whose face would you rather have on your manicure?

the list includes one 'Mitt Romeny', who i think is the first gypsy to run for president

150 Targetpractice  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 5:34:54pm

re: #141 jamesfirecat

Little late for that as I seem to have lost my instruction manual for Red Alert 3.

Luckily my brother owns the vanillia version of the game so I can borrow his and find a crack for it (he lost his manual also) and find a crack for it more easily.

That or if I have to it's going for like $12 on amazon.

Though of course on the other hand I've sort of wanted to boycott C&C since how they screwed up C&C 4...

Yeah, C&C 4 seemed like they were phoning it in. I know folks wanted a resolution to the whole storyline, but they really should have tested the whole concept out in an unrelated game before going with it in their last big release.

151 jamesfirecat  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 5:38:35pm

re: #150 Targetpractice

Yeah, C&C 4 seemed like they were phoning it in. I know folks wanted a resolution to the whole storyline, but they really should have tested the whole concept out in an unrelated game before going with it in their last big release.

Basically everything I read about how they designed the game to run said to me that this would be nothing like a normal C&C game.

Honestly the last "Real" C&C game was Red Alert 2.

Because from C&C 3 onwards in my point of view it is too easy to expand your base as you can do it with a simple outpost vehicle rather than needing to reach max tex level and build a new MCV, I liked that because it meant that it was about building a base and an army not trying to secure more resources than someone else, if I wanted to play that game I could play Warcraft 3.

152 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 5:38:49pm
Why is it so important to God that men and women dress modestly and distinctly different from each other? The reason is this: if you see two people walking down the sidewalk together, and they are both in pants, how do you know which is the man, and which is the woman? If you cannot tell at a glance from a distance, then you will keep looking until you know. Your eyes will be drawn to the differences in the way that God has made men and women. Those areas entice people to lust.

Oh, OK now I get it, but...why don't you want women to wear things like miniskirts and tube tops then? That way we would be able to tell they were women from even the briefest glance, even from a long way away!

:P

153 Charles Johnson  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 5:39:19pm

Today, Honey Boo Boo did what so many have tried to do and failed: took LGF down.

154 Targetpractice  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 5:40:53pm

re: #151 jamesfirecat

Basically everything I read about how they designed the game to run said to me that this would be nothing like a normal C&C game.

Honestly the last "Real" C&C game was Red Alert 2.

Because from C&C 3 onwards in my point of view it is too easy to expand your base as you can do it with a simple outpost vehicle rather than needing to reach max tex level and build a new MCV, I liked that because it meant that it was about building a base and an army not trying to secure more resources than someone else, if I wanted to play that game I could play Warcraft 3.

Hey now, I rather liked RA3. Although Uprising gave me a serious ulcer halfway through.

155 engineer cat  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 5:41:43pm

re: #148 goddamnedfrank

the Republicans here have made it clear that they actually like being lied to.

many people gladly pay prostitutes for exactly the same thing

156 miclaine  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 5:41:52pm

re: #153 Charles Johnson

Today, Honey Boo Boo did what so many have tried to do and failed: took LGF down.

Sad commentary on society - the continuation of the dumbing down of America.

157 TedStriker  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 5:41:55pm

re: #153 Charles Johnson

Today, Honey Boo Boo did what so many have tried to do and failed: took LGF down.

Eh, it was only a flesh wound...

///

158 Political Atheist  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 5:44:56pm

re: #153 Charles Johnson

Today, Honey Boo Boo did what so many have tried to do and failed: took LGF down.

Well I already could not stand the sight of her show... Now I got good cause to fully despise.

159 engineer cat  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 5:45:04pm

honey boo boo

somebody with a name like that ought to actually be cute

160 Political Atheist  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 5:45:32pm

TLC=The Lamest Channel.

161 jamesfirecat  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 5:45:38pm

re: #154 Targetpractice

Hey now, I rather liked RA3. Although Uprising gave me a serious ulcer halfway through.

I'm not saying I did not like them.

If I had not I would not have bought them and would not be agnsting over how I can not get my Primer Edition of RA3 to install right now.

Uprising had one major fault in the campaign, it was WAY, WAY, WAY prone to being abused.

Like in the final allied mission where you have a medium base you have to take out that you can easily hold off, but when you do take it down a metric f**k ton of enemies suddenly pop up.

So if you just build up your defenses against the medium base and then build up to a hilariously large army you can easily steam roll the larger force when it shows up... but that's not really being a good commander, that's gaming the system.

The "commander challenge" was fun though, I even managed to eventually beat every one under par.

Mostly by spamming that allied plane that cost like 3600 credits but would just circle around your enemies base and level it in record time once I unlocked it.

162 TedStriker  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 5:45:45pm

Anyone else seeing what seems to be a big ad push for the second Atlas Shrugged movie lately, especially on the cable networks? I didn't see one spot on the first one and it bombed; it seems as though they're going big this time, unfortunately.

163 Destro  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 5:45:52pm

re: #153 Charles Johnson

Today, Honey Boo Boo did what so many have tried to do and failed: took LGF down.

I will try harder next time to have people not agree with me so much.

164 Eventual Carrion  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 5:45:55pm

re: #86 Destro

Hell's yea! Thanks to the History channel I now know Hitler was linked to ancient aliens!!!! Thank you, for profit television!

Teach the controversy.

165 engineer cat  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 5:49:10pm

Those areas entice people to lust

why don't you give god a call and ask him why he did that?

166 Political Atheist  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 5:51:12pm

re: #163 Destro

No worries.

167 Targetpractice  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 5:51:15pm

re: #161 jamesfirecat

I'm not saying I did not like them.

If I had not I would not have bought them and would not be agnsting over how I can not get my Primer Edition of RA3 to install right now.

Uprising had one major fault in the campaign, it was WAY, WAY, WAY prone to being abused.

Like in the final allied mission where you have a medium base you have to take out that you can easily hold off, but when you do take it down a metric f**k ton of enemies suddenly pop up.

So if you just build up your defenses against the medium base and then build up to a hilariously large army you can easily steam roll the larger force when it shows up... but that's not really being a good commander, that's gaming the system.

The "commander challenge" was fun though, I even managed to eventually beat every one under par.

Mostly by spamming that allied plane that cost like 3600 credits but would just circle around your enemies base and level it in record time once I unlocked it.

Yeah, I see what you're saying about Outposts, but at least those you had to climb somewhat up to the tech ladder for. The Empire starts out with the ability to build wherever it wants, meaning there were times I could just set up a second refinery halfway across the map without my opponent realizing.

168 Charles Johnson  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 5:52:55pm

re: #163 Destro

I will try harder next time to have people not agree with me so much.

Congrats on making the Reddit front page!

169 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 5:57:20pm

re: #137 goddamnedfrank

Actually I got the math wrong above, the difference in omitting the Hispanic breakdown from the final tally results in a net 3.72% shift towards Romney. That's the vast majority of Pew's current 4 point lead. This calculation assumes two things designed to cancel each other out, that Romney got no debate bump among Hispanics (very unlikely) and that the Hispanic percentage of the voting population will be identical to 2008, not having grown at all (even more unlikely.)

170 freetoken  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 6:10:55pm

re: #165 engineer cat

Those areas entice people to lust

why don't you give god a call and ask him why he did that?

Speaking of which:

Prophets Who Conveniently Receive Divine Encouragement To Screw Kids

171 Targetpractice  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 6:17:57pm

I keep wondering if the narrowing in the polls has more to do with Willard winning back some of the fence-sitting wingnuts who were swearing up and down just a couple weeks ago that they were gonna vote for Johnson or write-in for Luap Nor than vote for the "establishment" candidate?

172 JamesWI  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 6:18:20pm

And the story gets better if you read it. This guy's company makes......car parts, including big contracts with GM and other companies that benefited from the bailout.

And he's building a new $31+ million facility with help from a state government-run group that is funded in part.....by Obama's stimulus package.

But according to him, "the auto bailout had nothing to do with his companies 3 years of straight growth, stating “We survived because of our business model and the money we have in the bank to survive these downturns.”

173 Targetpractice  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 6:21:45pm

re: #172 JamesWI

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And the story gets better if you read it. This guy's company makes......car parts, including big contracts with GM and other companies that benefited from the bailout.

And he's building a new $31+ million facility with help from a state government-run group that is funded in part.....by Obama's stimulus package.

But according to him, "the auto bailout had nothing to do with his companies 3 years of straight growth, stating “We survived because of our business model and the money we have in the bank to survive these downturns.”

Wonder if he'd still be in business if two of his biggest customers had gone into Chapter 7 bankruptcy. Ford certainly didn't think so, else it wouldn't have petitioned Congress to agree to the bailout.

174 engineer cat  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 6:21:56pm

CEO Threatens Paycut If Employees Vote For Obama

during the mckinley/bryan campaign, companies put out flyers warning employees that they would have to be fired if bryan won becuz he was so "anti-business"

Vote For McKinley And The Full Dinner Pail!

175 Political Atheist  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 6:25:09pm

re: #70 Destro
re: #163 Destro

I do agree with you that some media re regulation is needed.
I do not think that we are bereft of good commercial educational programming. The continued government funded inclusion of great scientifically accurate programming aimed at various age groups was not going to stop Ancients and Aliens or other tabloid level breathless crap.

Add all the PBS programming you want. Someone will still run Ancients and Aliens on some other channel or streaming service. It might get far higher ratings and attract more similar shows.

176 JamesWI  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 6:26:06pm

re: #172 JamesWI

Edit: The tweet is at least slightly misleading. From what I can tell, he didn't say "If you vote for Obama, I'll cut your pay." Instead, he said "If Obama wins, I'm going to cut your pay." So, it's still bad, just not "possibly illegal" bad.

177 jaunte  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 6:27:00pm

re: #172 JamesWI

“We survived because of our business model and the money we have in the bank to survive these downturns.”

"Cutting your employees pay is money in the bank."

178 jaunte  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 6:28:53pm

Hamsters still gasping for breath.

179 Political Atheist  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 6:36:56pm

re: #178 jaunte

Hamsters still gasping for breath.

Note to newer lurkers/lizards

Subscription gets the hamsters the best feed there is.

180 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 6:38:04pm

I"m sorry all, I've given-up trying to be part of today's discussions.

I'll try again tomorrow.

181 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 6:44:57pm

re: #161 jamesfirecat

I'm not saying I did not like them.

If I had not I would not have bought them and would not be agnsting over how I can not get my Primer Edition of RA3 to install right now.

You could try a key generator, don't know if it will work or not with the premier edition but it works with the regular version.

[Link: www.mediafire.com...]

182 Eventual Carrion  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 7:24:48pm

re: #165 engineer cat

Those areas entice people to lust

why don't you give god a call and ask him why he did that?

He who made kittens
put snakes in the grass

- "Bungle in the Jungle" Jethro Tull

183 Destro  Mon, Oct 8, 2012 8:22:04pm

re: #175 Daniel Ballard

You are not getting it. I showed what happened to a public funded educational channel when it was privatized over time and why we need public funding of PBS and Sesame Street. In other words, the assertion that Romney and the conservatives make against public funding of PBS is wrong headed. See the end result of Honey Boo Boo.

184 Destro  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 7:18:16am

We are back it seems. I think we got such a strong reaction to the TLC/Honey Boo Boo post of mine because - based on what I read on Reddit, people seem to have forgotten that TLC used to stand for "The Learning Channel" and even less people remembered there was some sort of educational public funding link to TLC.

So the juxtaposition of Honey Boo Boo now being the top rated show on a channel that was once partnered with NASA - and Romney's attack on PBS/Sesame Street/Big Bird helped illustrate the perils of privatizing and the for profit model for some endeavors vs the govt funded alternative.

I hope post helped people see why we need public financed broadcasting and why Republican ideology of free market is the only solution can be folly.

185 theobroma  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:06:08am

Instead of Varnish, you might want to look at [Link: cloudflare.com...] to deal with load spikes. While not perfect, they can handle many DoS-type situations (be they malicious or not). Full disclosure: I used to work for them.

186 Political Atheist  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:21:53am

re: #183 Destro

I'm not getting it? Read again.

I agreed with you on regulation. I said "fund PBS all you want". I just did not buy in whole hog to your premise(s). Adding money or ensuring funding for PBS is not going to stop lots of channels from running whatever rates well. PBS brings NOVA and Frontline, faves of mine. If you think NASA should have a TV channel, take a look at NASA Television. As I make the oink, there is a nice lecture on the JWST. TLC is gone, NASA TV is in. Lots of channels no longer resemble the name. ScyFy, History, heck most "news" channels are not really news. Don't blame Reagan, blame the audience.

187 wrenchwench  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:54:42am

re: #185 theobroma

Welcome, hatchling.


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