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1 AK-47%  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 9:35:48am

The Yellow Peril!

2 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 9:38:05am

I believe this is the funniest actual campaign ad ever made.

3 ReamWorks SKG  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 9:39:33am

It's a great ad, but is it preaching to the choir?

4 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 9:41:02am

CTW is not happy. How long will this one last?

5 wrenchwench  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 9:41:26am

re: #3 ReamWorks SKG

It's a great ad, but is it preaching to the choir?

There are parts of the choir that need some preachin'. Many people thought Obama blew the debate. Seeing him use the ammo he gathered there might cheer them up.

6 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 9:41:41am

Sesame Street wants them to take that ad down...

Sesame Workshop Response to Campaign Ads

Sesame Workshop is a nonpartisan, nonprofit organization and we do not endorse candidates or participate in political campaigns. We have approved no campaign ads, and as is our general practice, have requested that the ad be taken down.

7 William of Orange  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 9:41:52am

WATCH LIVE AS HISTORY UNFOLDS!

All around crazy Austrian Felix Baumgartner will launch from earth in a balloon which will bring him up to 40 kilometers any second now! He will fall back to earth and if things go right, will break the soundbarrier unassisted! Red Bull has a live stream up with 35 cameras! Here's the main link!

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

8 Gus  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 9:42:20am
9 William of Orange  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 9:44:10am

re: #6 NJDhockeyfan

Sesame Street wants them to take that ad down...

Sesame Workshop Response to Campaign Ads

And here we go again. I think this is just as bad as Republicans using music for which they didn't ask permission.

10 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 9:44:16am

re: #3 ReamWorks SKG

It's a great ad, but is it preaching to the choir?

Maybe not. It could play well with those impressionable folk who were taken in by Mitt's debate performance. Some of them are probably feeling a twinge of buyer's remorse, which is often the case after dealing with a slick salesman. This encourages and magnifies that doubt by making Mr. Slick look ridiculous.

11 jaunte  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 9:46:39am

"I'll fire Big Bird (and you too, Jim Lehrer)" is the only memorable soundbite from the first debate.

12 A Mom Anon  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 9:48:45am

Whether Sesame Workshop is happy or not,it's still a cool ad. (and this is a test post for me,I'm still having some trouble getting stuff to load or for links to open)...

13 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 9:49:01am

I think it's fair use since the subjects, Big Bird and Sesame Street, were introduced in a relevant and newsworthy context during a presidential debate.

14 A Mom Anon  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 9:49:15am

re: #12 A Mom Anon

Success!!Whee!

15 Gus  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 9:49:25am

re: #13 Shiplord Kirel

I think it's fair use since the subjects, Big Bird and Sesame Street, were introduced in a relevant and newsworthy context during a presidential debate.

See #8.

16 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 9:49:30am

I needed a genuine laugh after the past couple of weeks of dealing with several friends/family members having serious and life-threatening medical situations, and that was it.

Those situations aren't any better, but they haven't gotten worse either. It's pretty much SNAFU and while hospital staff has been incredible, there are limits to what they can do when patient mental health issues can disrupt treatment options. It's one of the reasons I've been increasingly sparse here and on my blog; I just don't have time to post or comment as I usually have done over the years (and doubly so in election years).

17 AK-47%  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 9:50:52am

PBS has an interest in not appearing partisan in this debate, they are supposed to be neutral. It is like GM asking that they not be mentioned in the course of discussing the economy.

18 Gus  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 9:55:18am

McMansion

Image: 602847_500.jpg

19 Big Steve  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 9:55:21am

These ads are a waste of money. The only thing Obama can do to get this election back on track is win the next debate or at least have it be a tie so that his supporters can have safe harbor to support him. This he certainly will do and if he does he will be back safely in the lead.

20 Sionainn  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 9:55:57am

re: #16 lawhawk

I needed a genuine laugh after the past couple of weeks of dealing with several friends/family members having serious and life-threatening medical situations, and that was it.

Those situations aren't any better, but they haven't gotten worse either. It's pretty much SNAFU and while hospital staff has been incredible, there are limits to what they can do when patient mental health issues can disrupt treatment options. It's one of the reasons I've been increasingly sparse here and on my blog; I just don't have time to post or comment as I usually have done over the years (and doubly so in election years).

(((lawhawk))) You've been missed.

21 wrenchwench  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 9:56:19am

re: #16 lawhawk

{{{lawhawk}}}

22 jaunte  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 9:56:36am

re: #18 Gus

"Millions for construction, but not a penny for learning about architecture."

24 Gus  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 9:56:52am

re: #22 jaunte

"Millions for construction, but not a penny for learning about architecture."

Image: david-siegel-jacqueline-siegel-queen-of-versailles-01-1920x1280.jpg

25 SidewaysQuark  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 9:56:57am

Ironically, Sesame Street is probably the one program on PBS big enough to stand on its own in a privately run environment. The real loss would be the more obscure documentaries, educational shows and REAL reality-based television alternatives to Honey Boo Boo.

26 blueraven  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 9:57:31am

I like the ad, it is funny and well done.

But I think the Obama campaign is spending too much time on the Big Bird issue.
There are very serious problems that need to be addressed.
Romney gave them a ton of material in the debate and in his FP speech.

While de-funding of PBS is indicative of republicans approach to the deficit, this attention to BB seems a bit frivolous to me at a time when things are deadly serious. I hope they move on.

27 Gus  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 9:57:34am

Also see...

28 jaunte  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 9:58:16am

re: #24 Gus

Gold-plated Honey Boo Boos.

29 Gus  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 9:58:33am

re: #28 jaunte

Gold-plated Honey Boo Boos.

Why we fight.

30 Gus  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 9:58:42am

God bless America.

31 Gus  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 9:58:51am

Image: abc_gma_mansion_120716_704x396.jpg

32 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 9:58:54am

re: #19 Big Steve

These ads are a waste of money. The only thing Obama can do to get this election back on track is win the next debate or at least have it be a tie so that his supporters can have safe harbor to support him. This he certainly will do and if he does he will be back safely in the lead.

I agree. Mitt's comments about PBS were stupid and fair game for criticism but the response so far seems equally silly. I don't know if the Big Bird meme is going to be a winner with undecided voters but there are much more serious problems facing the country right now.

33 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 9:59:02am

re: #19 Big Steve

Nate Silver's take on the polls would seem to indicate that the shrieking class of despondent Democrats needs to calm down; the polls weren't as bad as they were thinking, and the effect still leaves Obama in the lead. Fixation on a single poll or single round of polling ignores the longer trends, which is that Romney is still pretty much trailing in most locations and if that holds, then Obama wins reelection (in which case the shrieking will be ever louder from the other side of the aisle). A good debate showing would stabilize things but would it really energize the uncertain percentage that is holding out on their preferences? I'm not so sure. It will come back to the economy - and on that front, the figures are trending in Obama's favor.

34 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 9:59:03am

re: #18 Gus

McMansion

Image: 602847_500.jpg

Nice yard chief.

35 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 9:59:34am

re: #25 SidewaysQuark

Ironically, Sesame Street is probably the one program on PBS big enough to stand on its own in a privately run environment. The real loss would be the more obscure documentaries, educational shows and REAL reality-based television alternatives to Honey Boo Boo.

Though that would probably push Sesame Street onto a commercial station as well unless it somehow became it's own cable channel that run without advertising.

36 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 9:59:55am

re: #9 William of Orange

And here we go again. I think this is just as bad as Republicans using music for which they didn't ask permission.

I don't think so at all. Big Bird and PBS were brought into this campaign by Mitt Romney during the debate. A good case can be made that this is absolutely fair use, as a comment on Mitt Romney's statements during the debate.

It's nothing like using a song without permission.

37 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:01:03am

re: #18 Gus

McMansion

Image: 602847_500.jpg

Yikes! I'd rather live in a refrigerator crate than that monstrosity. My own (alleged) good taste aside, my older daughter is an architect. She would disown me if I moved into that trashy construct.

38 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:01:24am

re: #34 Varek Raith

Nice yard chief.

Looks like a pimped-up bunker. Concrete. :p

Presumably some paint and landscaping to follow.

39 AK-47%  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:01:27am

re: #19 Big Steve

These ads are a waste of money. The only thing Obama can do to get this election back on track is win the next debate or at least have it be a tie so that his supporters can have safe harbor to support him. This he certainly will do and if he does he will be back safely in the lead.

Not entirely, it is a subtle way of reminding us of the fact that Romney is very, very close to the people who wrecked our economy and would let them run roughshod over it again in the name of Free Market and Deregulation.

40 darthstar  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:01:27am

Dear god that's fucking funny.

41 Big Steve  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:03:05am

re: #33 lawhawk

Nate Silver's take on the polls would seem to indicate that the shrieking class of despondent Democrats needs to calm down; the polls weren't as bad as they were thinking, and the effect still leaves Obama in the lead. Fixation on a single poll or single round of polling ignores the longer trends, which is that Romney is still pretty much trailing in most locations and if that holds, then Obama wins reelection (in which case the shrieking will be ever louder from the other side of the aisle). A good debate showing would stabilize things but would it really energize the uncertain percentage that is holding out on their preferences? I'm not so sure. It will come back to the economy - and on that front, the figures are trending in Obama's favor.

I agree. I predicted a 5 point initial bump for Romney then settling down to only 1 or 2 points. Obama's numbers will start to pick up by this weekend naturally.

42 JamesWI  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:04:21am

re: #32 Killgore Trout

I agree. Mitt's comments about PBS were stupid and fair game for criticism but the response so far seems equally silly. I don't know if the Big Bird meme is going to be a winner with undecided voters but there are much more serious problems facing the country right now.

THAT'S THE POINT. There are bigger problems, yet one of the only things Romney has been specific about (and one of the only things he hasn't changed his mind about) is that we NEED to stop funding PBS and NPR.

43 Gus  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:04:59am

...

44 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:05:00am

re: #32 Killgore Trout

I agree. Mitt's comments about PBS were stupid and fair game for criticism but the response so far seems equally silly. I don't know if the Big Bird meme is going to be a winner with undecided voters but there are much more serious problems facing the country right now.

And this is one advertisement out of many.

45 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:05:27am

BTW, what's going on with "Red Dawn" being shown repeatedly by multiple cable stations? Or is it been like this for a while and I am just noticing now since I have the TV on more than it has been in the past six months. (Due to football season for the most part.)

46 Gus  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:05:48am

re: #43 Gus

...

Gah... Not converting all of the sudden. Take two!

47 William of Orange  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:06:07am

re: #36 Charles Johnson

I don't think so at all. Big Bird and PBS were brought into this campaign by Mitt Romney during the debate. A good case can be made that this is absolutely fair use, as a comment on Mitt Romney's statements during the debate.

It's nothing like using a song without permission.

I know that the material used in this clip is polically valid to use, but still, this is copyrighted material....

...anyway, I ripped it from youtube in case it disappears. ;-)

48 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:06:13am

re: #24 Gus

Image: david-siegel-jacqueline-siegel-queen-of-versailles-01-1920x1280.jpg

90,000 square feet. That is 2 and a quarter acres. You could park 4 B-52s in there.

49 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:06:31am

re: #18 Gus

McMansion

Image: 602847_500.jpg

Wow. How much did they pay an architect for that?

They should get a refund, except that if they were dumb enough to build it, they probably think it is beautiful.

50 Sionainn  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:06:43am

Something I've noticed while watching shows on Hulu or fast-forwarding my Tivo is that Obama has a ton of ads airing right now and I haven't seen any from Romney, and I'm in a battleground state. Weird.

51 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:06:45am

re: #32 Killgore Trout

I agree. Mitt's comments about PBS were stupid and fair game for criticism but the response so far seems equally silly. I don't know if the Big Bird meme is going to be a winner with undecided voters but there are much more serious problems facing the country right now.

I'm curious... what exactly do you think is "silly" about this ad? It makes a serious point under the humor, that Mitt Romney's focus on PBS is absurd.

How is that "silly?"

52 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:08:12am

re: #6 NJDhockeyfan

Sesame Street wants them to take that ad down...

Sesame Workshop Response to Campaign Ads

Kind of like the one Mexican food place that just didn't want to be part of the campaign.

53 Gus  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:08:14am

re: #49 Mostly sane, most of the time.

Wow. How much did they pay an architect for that?

They should get a refund, except that if they were dumb enough to build it, they probably think it is beautiful.

More here.

David Siegel’s Mega Mansion UPDATE – $100,000,000

Reminds me of a lot of those tacky mansions one sees in Saudi Arabia.

54 Ghost of Tom Joad  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:08:15am

re: #48 Shiplord Kirel

90,000 square feet. That is a 2 and a quarter acres. You could park 4 B-52s in there.

Serious compensation for a serious case of pimple-dick.

55 JamesWI  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:08:39am

Gallup poll's numbers on Obama Job Approval - Up 2%, to 53/42

56 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:09:13am

re: #42 JamesWI

THAT'S THE POINT. There are bigger problems, yet one of the only things Romney has been specific about (and one of the only things he hasn't changed his mind about) is that we NEED to stop funding PBS and NPR.

Then let's stop obsessing about nonsense and talk about serious issues.
e.g.
IMF Sees ‘Alarmingly High’ Risk of Deeper Global Slump
But of course that would be complicated, boring and the practical solutions aren't going to fit neatly into an ideological box. Fuck it, let's go back to Big Bird.

57 darthstar  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:09:28am

Ha!

58 darthstar  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:09:55am

re: #57 darthstar

Ha!

Ha! (with tweet)

59 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:10:18am

re: #56 Killgore Trout

Then let's stop obsessing about nonsense and talk about serious issues.
e.g.
IMF Sees ‘Alarmingly High’ Risk of Deeper Global Slump
But of course that would be complicated, boring and the practical solutions aren't going to fit neatly into an ideological box. Fuck it, let's go back to Big Bird.

Really? You think nobody is discussing those "serious issues?" I see plenty of discussion going on.

60 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:11:11am

re: #51 Charles Johnson

I'm curious... what exactly do you think is "silly" about this ad? It makes a serious point under the humor, that Mitt Romney's focus on PBS is absurd.

How is that "silly?"

Given the issues about the economy, Syria, Libya, Iran, etc. Big Bird is low on my list of important issues.

61 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:11:14am

re: #53 Gus

More here.

David Siegel’s Mega Mansion UPDATE – $100,000,000

Reminds me of a lot of those tacky mansions one sees in Saudi Arabia.

You know that Howard Roark would take one look at the place and then sneak in a demolition crew overnight.
/

62 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:11:51am

re: #60 Killgore Trout

Given the issues about the economy, Syria, Libya, Iran, etc. Big Bird is low on my list of important issues.

So why do you think Mitt Romney made such a big point of it in the debate then?

63 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:12:41am

The thing about a house like that is that you'd have to have an army of servants to run and maintain it.

I like my privacy.

If I had all the money that I'd ever want, I think that I'd built one of those log cabin homes with a nice bit of forest next to it, and just join a gym and go to the theater when I wanted to see a movie.

Except...well...the underground mad scientist's lab with the super-sized meteorite for a power source, a bunch of lasers, an army of robots, and the array of high tech 'toys' to take out the neighbors if they have loud parties after midnight one too many times.

Except for that.

64 darthstar  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:12:54am

re: #60 Killgore Trout

Given the issues about the economy, Syria, Libya, Iran, etc. Big Bird is low on my list of important issues.

But Big Bird is enemy #1 according to Romney. It's the first specific he's given on his economic plan. Kill the bird. Brilliant.

65 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:13:24am

New Gallup tracking poll now includes likely voters -- that section puts Romney two points ahead. Statistically meaningless.

[Link: www.gallup.com...]

66 JamesWI  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:13:33am

re: #56 Killgore Trout

Then let's stop obsessing about nonsense and talk about serious issues.
e.g.
IMF Sees ‘Alarmingly High’ Risk of Deeper Global Slump
But of course that would be complicated, boring and the practical solutions aren't going to fit neatly into an ideological box. Fuck it, let's go back to Big Bird.

We'll talk about serious issues....as soon as Romney actually wants to talk about serious issues, rather than talk about the need to get rid of funding for PBS.

67 The Left  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:13:49am

re: #62 Charles Johnson

So why do you think Mitt Romney made such a big point of it in the debate then?

Money Boo Boo couldn't be bothered to mention Iraq or Afghanistan in his foreign policy op ed. Big Bird is big Business!

68 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:14:08am

It was Romney who brought Big Bird into this, and he did so in a substantial sense, as the chosen example of something he would cut from the budget. Exposing and highlighting the absurd and frivolous nature of this statement is not, in itself, absurd and frivolous. It is a very serious matter that a presidential candidate would focus on this trivial matter to the exclusion of so much else.

69 Sionainn  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:14:11am

re: #60 Killgore Trout

Given the issues about the economy, Syria, Libya, Iran, etc. Big Bird is low on my list of important issues.

Well, we could talk about this, "Romney Saves His Best Lies for Foreign Policy."

70 JamesWI  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:14:32am
71 JamesWI  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:16:01am

KT thinks Romney wants to talk about the serious issues:

72 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:16:28am

And here is your preview for today's latest outrageous outrage. Since it's Chicago you know that this is an Obama pilot program coming to you in December.

[Link: usnews.nbcnews.com...]

Personally I think it's sort of stupid since it will not really treat causes.

Also note that none of the outrage will mention that Tennessee (yes, Tennessee) has a tax on ammo already in place.

73 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:16:46am

And do you know what else my house would have?

Scotch tape that NEVER GETS LOST!

74 Randall Gross  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:17:15am

///

Hey! Stop talking about how ridiculous and ineffective Mitt's attacks on Big Bird and PBS are -- I want to talk about how bad the economy is (with the intent of keeping it bad...) Stomp Stomp ! Economy! Economy BADDDD! We r DOOOMED I TELL YOU! DOOOMED!!!

///

The people selling doom are becoming even more ridiculous than Mitt is.

75 The Mongoose  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:17:46am

Edit: NJD got it already, I missed it. See post #6

76 Gus  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:17:53am

re: #71 JamesWI

KT thinks Romney wants to talk about the serious issues:

[Embedded content]

God. The Romneys are such obnoxious assholes.

77 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:17:54am

re: #71 JamesWI

KT thinks Romney wants to talk about the serious issues:

[Embedded content]

Is Josh Romney calling the POTUS a child?

78 Gus  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:18:14am

re: #75 The Mongoose

Sesame Workshop has requested that the ad be removed. [Link: www.cbsnews.com...]

Let me get my smelling salts.

79 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:18:39am

We wouldn't be seeing silly ads like this if Romney wasn't such a dishonest dick and making out PBS to be a big drain on the budget.

80 Ghost of Tom Joad  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:19:59am

re: #60 Killgore Trout

Given the issues about the economy, Syria, Libya, Iran, etc. Big Bird is low on my list of important issues.

I don't understand how seemingly intelligent folks keep wetting the bed about the middle-east. One man's serious concern is another man's shrug of the shoulders. You sound like a 'Villager' who claims to be a very serious person because if somebody isn't as concerned about what they're concerned about, then the other person just can't be serious.

High horses and all.

81 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:20:10am

There are people out there who think we could balance the budget by eliminating PBS. There are millions of people who think we could balance the budget by eliminating PBS and NASA. A lot of them vote. That is very serious cause for concern.

82 Randall Gross  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:22:33am

Meanwhile the Welfare fraud that's been stopped just since Obama got elected halts billions in future waste.

83 moderatelyradicalliberal  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:23:24am

It's important because Republicans have been selling the bullshit notion that we are so broke we can't fund programs for the public good, but we can give trillions of dollars in tax cuts to the rich and some how the budget will be balanced.

The ad is funny and points our just how stupid the GOP's fiscal ideas are.

84 Gus  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:23:55am
85 Gus  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:24:05am

Outrage! ;)

86 The Left  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:24:47am

re: #85 Gus

Outrage! ;)

Troutrage!

87 Ghost of Tom Joad  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:24:58am

re: #71 JamesWI

KT thinks Romney wants to talk about the serious issues:

[Embedded content]

Well, Josh is right. Romney lied to the American people just like he lied to his children. He told his kids, yes your face will get stuck like that if you keep doing it. You'll go blind watching too much TV. Stop playing with it or you'll go blind.

I'm sure other folks have plenty of crap their parents told them that was flat-out bullshit.

88 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:24:59am

I guess KT wasn't interested in a serious discussion.
Ah well.
;)

89 kirkspencer  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:25:19am

So let me get this straight. The people who've been dismissive of Obama and the Democrats think the Big Bird ad is a waste of time and effort. The ones who've been in support think it was a good ad.

and in other news, dog bites man and Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead.

90 Gus  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:26:01am

re: #86 The Left

Troutrage!

91 Sionainn  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:26:04am

re: #88 Varek Raith

I guess KT wasn't interested in a serious discussion.
Ah well.
;)

You read my mind.

92 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:27:32am

re: #89 kirkspencer

So let me get this straight. The people who've been dismissive of Obama and the Democrats think the Big Bird ad is a waste of time and effort. The ones who've been in support think it was a good ad.

and in other news, dog bites man and Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead.

There's also something for fence-sitters in this: Romney is a buffoon who couldn't, or wouldn't, make a serious proposal to reduce the deficit.

93 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:27:38am
94 A Mom Anon  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:27:44am

re: #83 moderatelyradicalliberal

Exactly. The "fiscal conservatives" always seem to do this. Complain and freak the hell out over anything that is for the public good,or benefits the public in some way. Meanwhile,let's not look at the cost of those giant tax cuts and loopholes that cost the nation far more than a couple of really well thought out and well run public programs.

If I didn't know better,why,I'd almost think they hate us.

95 Ghost of Tom Joad  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:29:14am

re: #88 Varek Raith

I guess KT wasn't interested in a serious discussion.
Ah well.
;)

Maybe if we could get a Muslim to hold Big-Bird hostage he'd change his mind.

(too far?)

96 Amory Blaine  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:29:18am

I'm so sick of funerals. Everyone around me is dying. Wifes 32 yo cousin died of a heart attack this week. Last week 34 yo guy at work killed in an accident. Last Christmas my wifes sisters boyfriend dropped dead of a heart attack at 42.

Fuck.

97 A Mom Anon  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:29:22am

re: #93 Charles Johnson

Rich self-important entitled douche says what?

98 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:29:55am

re: #2 Shiplord Kirel

I believe this is the funniest actual campaign ad ever made.

NOTHING will ever be as funny as the demon sheep.

99 darthstar  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:30:06am

re: #96 Amory Blaine

I'm so sick of funerals. Everyone around me is dying. Wifes 32 yo cousin died of a heart attack this week. Last week 34 yo guy at work killed in an accident. Last Christmas my wifes sisters boyfriend dropped dead of a heart attack at 42.

Fuck.

Shit...sorry to hear. Stay safe.

100 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:30:18am

re: #97 A Mom Anon

Rich self-important entitled douche says what?

"I have daddy issues." Really though what the fuck is up with that statement?

101 Gus  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:30:18am
102 Amory Blaine  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:30:48am

You could stop all spending on the poor tomorrow and whiny bitches will still be outraged. They will never be sated.

103 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:31:32am

I think asshole is a pre-existing condition in the Romney family now that I've heard Mitt's son compare the president to a child.

104 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:32:03am

re: #47 William of Orange

I know that the material used in this clip is polically valid to use, but still, this is copyrighted material....

...anyway, I ripped it from youtube in case it disappears. ;-)

You will be hearing from our lawyers.

Oscar "the grouch"

105 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:32:47am

re: #7 William of Orange

WATCH LIVE AS HISTORY UNFOLDS!

All around crazy Austrian Felix Baumgartner will launch from earth in a balloon which will bring him up to 40 kilometers any second now! He will fall back to earth and if things go right, will break the soundbarrier unassisted! Red Bull has a live stream up with 35 cameras! Here's the main link!

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

Launch countdown to 3:30.

106 moderatelyradicalliberal  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:34:13am

re: #94 A Mom Anon

Exactly. The "fiscal conservatives" always seem to do this. Complain and freak the hell out over anything that is for the public good,or benefits the public in some way. Meanwhile,let's not look at the cost of those giant tax cuts and loopholes that cost the nation far more than a couple of really well thought out and well run public programs.

If I didn't know better,why,I'd almost think they hate us.

It's not hate, they don't give a single fuck about us at all. This is about the people that the GOP really represents wanting out of the social contract that built this country starting with the New Deal under FDR.

They got theirs, now fuck all of you.

107 Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:36:10am

I do wonder if there might be a little backlash to the Romneyentum. I was chatting with my mother, who's as much an Obama hating Fox News junkie as there ever could exist, and mentioned to her if she's ready for Romney as President. She just sat there and went... well... I don't know about that either.

Maybe I'll convince her to vote Libertarian yet. :)

But the general gist I'm getting from some of my conservative friends has been, Obama is easy to hate on when he's going to win, but when Romney starts gaining ground and it looks like Romney might have a real shot, Well, suddenly they're not quite so sure.

Which isn't the reaction I expected.

108 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:36:20am

re: #106 moderatelyradicalliberal

It's not hate, they don't give a single fuck about us at all. This is about the people that the GOP really represents wanting out of the social contract that built this country starting with the New Deal under FDR.

They got theirs, now fuck all of you.

Hell, I say they want to go back further than that given their resentment of Wilson and Teddy Roosevelt. They're full of shit anyhow. They have this mythical idea that before the rise of progressivism in early 20th century that this country was "free." They neglect to mention that before that era, children were forced to work, workers worked practically to death and unable to organize, and women and minorities with little to no say in government. Their belief in America is of a myth they've created.

109 moderatelyradicalliberal  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:36:26am

re: #103 HappyWarrior

I think asshole is a pre-existing condition in the Romney family now that I've heard Mitt's son compare the president to a child.

Rotten apples never fall too far from the tree. Is their any evidence that any of R-Money's trust fund spawn have done anything useful in their lives?

110 The Left  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:37:07am

re: #101 Gus

[Embedded content]

I like these logos you're making!

111 Ghost of Tom Joad  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:37:48am

re: #109 moderatelyradicalliberal

Rotten apples never fall too far from the tree. Is their any evidence that any of R-Money's trust fund spawn have done anything useful in their lives?

They're "serving America (fuck yeah!)" by helping to get Mitt elected!

112 moderatelyradicalliberal  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:38:46am

re: #107 Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All

I do wonder if there might be a little backlash to the Romneyentum. I was chatting with my mother, who's as much an Obama hating Fox News junkie as there ever could exist, and mentioned to her if she's ready for Romney as President. She just sat there and went... well... I don't know about that either.

Maybe I'll convince her to vote Libertarian yet. :)

But the general gist I'm getting from some of my conservative friends has been, Obama is easy to hate on when he's going to win, but when Romney starts gaining ground and it looks like Romney might have a real shot, Well, suddenly they're not quite so sure.

Which isn't the reaction I expected.

Willard is an asshole with upside down favorability scores. That has not changed. The fundamental dynamics of the race are the same.

113 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:38:57am

re: #111 Ghost of Tom Joad

They're "serving American (fuck yeah!)" by helping to get Mitt elected!

I remember when he said that. It was such a stupid thing to say but this is the man who protested in favor of a draft and war, and then went to France. You've got to hand it to Mitt. He's really courageous and by courageous I mean a coward who couldn't put his money where his mouth was.

114 Gus  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:39:32am

re: #110 The Left

I like these logos you're making!

My ears are ringing.

//

115 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:39:40am

re: #109 moderatelyradicalliberal

Rotten apples never fall too far from the tree. Is their any evidence that any of R-Money's trust fund spawn have done anything useful in their lives?

The only one whose profession I know is in his third year of residency.

Is that useful?

116 Mattand  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:40:16am

re: #107 Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All

I do wonder if there might be a little backlash to the Romneyentum. I was chatting with my mother, who's as much an Obama hating Fox News junkie as there ever could exist, and mentioned to her if she's ready for Romney as President. She just sat there and went... well... I don't know about that either.

Maybe I'll convince her to vote Libertarian yet. :)

But the general gist I'm getting from some of my conservative friends has been, Obama is easy to hate on when he's going to win, but when Romney starts gaining ground and it looks like Romney might have a real shot, Well, suddenly they're not quite so sure.

Which isn't the reaction I expected.

Yeah, that is a little shocking. It definitely flies in the tradition of "Dems fall in love, GOP falls in line."

I do have faith that, in general, most Republicans' racist-tinged paranoia and fact-denial involving Obama will overcome any moments of sanity they may have had, and will vote GOP.

117 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:40:54am

re: #71 JamesWI

KT thinks Romney wants to talk about the serious issues:

RT @jonward11: Josh Romney, introducing Mitt in Iowa, says he and his brothers taught their father "how to debate an obstinate child."
— Andrew Kaczynski (@BuzzFeedAndrew) October 9, 2012

And I am sure at least once in his young life Obama had to kick a snotty little white boys ass. So your father can suck it up his nose and blow it out his ass.

118 Gus  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:41:09am
119 darthstar  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:42:27am

re: #105 NJDhockeyfan

Launch countdown to 3:30.

Aborted

120 moderatelyradicalliberal  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:43:18am

re: #115 Mostly sane, most of the time.

The only one whose profession I know is in his third year of residency.

Is that useful?

You mean he hasn't quit because of Obamacare? You know all of the doctors are quitting because of Obamacare.

121 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:43:56am

re: #105 NJDhockeyfan

Launch countdown to 3:30.

Rats! Called off, gusty winds. They'll try again tomorrow.

122 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:45:41am

I like the ad.
Too bad they didn't ask for permission.
All in all, I think it was for us whiny Libs, and our reaction to the debate.
I says to me, "Why so serious? We have serious problems in the financial sector, and this dude is talking about Big Bird."

I'm the Reverend Mother, and I approve this message.

123 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:46:18am

re: #118 Gus

[Embedded content]

You left out the 14 year GIRL part of it.

I have no hope for a society in which grown men shoot girls for wanting an education.

124 JamesWI  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:48:00am
125 AK-47%  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:48:05am

re: #123 Mostly sane, most of the time.

You left out the 14 year GIRL part of it.

I have no hope for a society in which grown men shoot girls for wanting an education.

We don't shoot them, we just have a major party that wants to deny them basic sex education and access to contraception, health care and abortion services.

126 Gus  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:48:52am

re: #125 AK-47%

We don't shoot them, we just have a major party that wants to deny them basic sex education and access to contraception, health care and abortion services.

Please. Yes the GOP is screwed up but there's no comparison. This is an insult to what she's fighting for.

127 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:48:52am

re: #122 Reverend Mother Ramallo

I like the ad.
Too bad they didn't ask for permission.
All in all, I think it was for us whiny Libs, and our reaction to the debate.
I says to me, "Why so serious? We have serious problems in the financial sector, and this dude is talking about Big Bird."

I'm the Reverend Mother, and I approve this message.

Yeah, people decry the ad as silly but let's look at Romney. He thinks Wall Street needs less regulations but Sesame Street needs to be cut off even though it makes up a shit little part of the overall budget. His priorities are skewed big time and I think that ad hits on this.

128 wrenchwench  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:49:36am

re: #96 Amory Blaine

{{{Amory}}}

129 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:49:38am

re: #125 AK-47%

We don't shoot them, we just have a major party that wants to deny them basic sex education and access to contraception, health care and abortion services.

And they don't even have to worry about drone attacks while they're doing it; unless they listen to Alex Jones, that is.

130 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:49:55am

re: #89 kirkspencer

[snip]

and in other news, dog bites man and Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead.

But I just saw him the other day. I don't know why he was riding in that Amish buggy, but there he was.

131 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:50:18am

re: #125 AK-47%

We don't shoot them, we just have a major party that wants to deny them basic sex education and access to contraception, health care and abortion services.

Yeah, just don't let them be anywhere near an abortion clinic, cause then, all bets are off.
(I'm not sure if I'm being sarcastic...)

132 moderatelyradicalliberal  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:50:23am

re: #123 Mostly sane, most of the time.

You left out the 14 year GIRL part of it.

I have no hope for a society in which grown men shoot girls for wanting an education.

I often feel the same way. That place is a hell hole and it's not just the girls who are at risk. Apparently there is a tradition of turning young boys into sex slaves for grown men. I saw it on Frontline. I was messed up for days afterwards. Children are abused everywhere, but it's am accepted institution over their like ancient Rome.

133 JamesWI  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:50:58am

Romney Press Releases Cites Tax Policy Center They Attacked As “Biased” And “Liberal”

In a press release today, the Romney campaign cites an article that ran in The Hill prominently citing the non-partisan think tank the Tax Policy Center to hit President Obama on how his policies have effected farmers. The Romney campaign, as recently as Sunday, was calling the Center “a liberal think tank” for saying Romney's tax plan would increase have to increase taxes on lower and middle income people to pay for his plan. The Romney previously called the Center's study “just another biased study from a former Obama staffer.” The Center also found that Romney's plan would increase the deficit.

134 A Mom Anon  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:53:27am

re: #123 Mostly sane, most of the time.

I'm not sure how people fight that sort of deeply entrenched cultural crazy. But that's what has to happen. People are sadly going to die doing it because that kind of power won't go quietly or gently. It takes a revolution,in the truest sense of the word. I'm not sure outside intervention is the answer either because that doesn't seem to work,it gets corrupted and sidetracked too easily. Money gets funneled off,aid gets diverted where it's not supposed to and so on. It freaking sucks that people can be so hateful and violent and for what?

135 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:53:30am

re: #96 Amory Blaine

I know exactly what you mean. We can only hope that things get better. My condolences to you and yours.

136 moderatelyradicalliberal  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:53:37am

re: #124 JamesWI

[Embedded content]

How are likely voters and enthusiasm determined? Because from what I have seen the electorate in real life rarely looks the way that likely voter samples do.

137 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:53:50am

re: #133 JamesWI

Romney Press Releases Cites Tax Policy Center They Attacked As “Biased” And “Liberal”

It's the Romney. Bullshit, distort, and bullshit some more. Kind of how they're okay with dishonest ads they because "they're working" but they cry like babies when Romney's time in business and government is actually examined with a critical eye.

138 AK-47%  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:57:25am

re: #126 Gus

Please. Yes the GOP is screwed up but there's no comparison. This is an insult to what she's fighting for.

Granted, the comparison stops at Arkansas Republican Charlie Fuqua...for now at least.

139 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 10:57:46am

re: #121 Shiplord Kirel

Rats! Called off, gusty winds. They'll try again tomorrow.

Cool. Weather delay is one thing. Operational or structural problems would be terrible.

140 Ghost of Tom Joad  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 11:01:16am

re: #123 Mostly sane, most of the time.

You left out the 14 year GIRL part of it.

I have no hope for a society in which grown men shoot girls for wanting an education.

Scary part is that the nutters would do similarly grotesque things in this country if there weren't laws against it.

141 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 11:01:57am

re: #126 Gus 802

Please. Yes the GOP is screwed up but there's no comparison. This is an insult to what she's fighting for.

The GOP wants to go back to the "Good 'Ol Days."
For people like me, the comparison isn't so shaky.

142 Gus  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 11:03:29am

re: #141 Reverend Mother Ramallo

The GOP wants to go back to the "Good 'Ol Days."
For people like me, the comparison isn't so shaky.

That's not the point. Apples and oranges. This is about a 14 year old girl that has bullet in her spine and another girl that was shot in the leg by the Taliban. Seriously, give me a break. You read that and suddenly it's "but teh Republicans!!" MBF fail.

143 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 11:20:27am

Error of Omission: Romney's version of "To Serve America" is a cookbook!
;)

144 William of Orange  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 11:44:37am

re: #7 William of Orange

WATCH LIVE AS HISTORY UNFOLDS!

All around crazy Austrian Felix Baumgartner will launch from earth in a balloon which will bring him up to 40 kilometers any second now! He will fall back to earth and if things go right, will break the soundbarrier unassisted! Red Bull has a live stream up with 35 cameras! Here's the main link!

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

Damn... That's a dud. Mission aborted due to gusty winds...

145 krypto  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 11:57:49am

Fox news is crowing about PBS asking Team Obama to take down the advert. Apparently PBS just wants to retain its non-partisan status and not be shown as being on either side of the election battle -- although Fox tries to spin it as a rebuff to Obama.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Not only is the Fox spin on the story ridiculous, but Fox actually has it as its front page lead news headline on its web page -- which logically would mean that Fox considers it the most important news event of the moment.

But since the video is really funny, if you want to laugh at it later as well as now, you might want to download a copy of it in case it really does disappear from YouTube.

146 efuseakay  Tue, Oct 9, 2012 12:00:20pm

With all due respect, we need to stop obsessing about polls. The only one that matters is on ejection day. Get out and vote!

147 MPH  Wed, Oct 10, 2012 12:41:52pm

If this is the best they've got, then it's true -- Obama's campaign is now for the birds.


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