Here’s Mitt Romney’s son Josh, doubling down on his father’s bizarre debate story about his lying “boys,” and comparing the President of the United States to “an obstinate child.”
As always with a right wing dog whistle, plausible deniability is maintained because he doesn’t explicitly say Obama is an obstinate child.
(h/t: TPM.)
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HappyWarrior Tue, Oct 9, 2012 11:24:05am |
So it's not just Mitt who's a pathetic jerk in this family. Really comparing the POTUS to a child? Shows the lack of class that Romney has and that he raised his sons with.
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Charles Johnson Tue, Oct 9, 2012 11:24:19am |
Yep. And the right wing base sure didn't miss the message.
@green_footballs obama IS A BOY—WILSON (@wilsonkeywest) October 9, 2012
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HappyWarrior Tue, Oct 9, 2012 11:27:40am |
re: #2 Charles Johnson
Yep. And the right wing base sure didn't miss the message.
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Yikes. Yep, more dog whistles from the Romney family. Lovely. I'm totally convinced that if Mitt had been a candidate in the 60's, he would have adopted George Wallace rhetoric if he thought it would help him.
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Shiplord Kirel Tue, Oct 9, 2012 11:27:48am |
So, this is one of those lying scoundrels Mitt was telling us about.
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Shiplord Kirel Tue, Oct 9, 2012 11:30:02am |
re: #3 HappyWarrior
Yikes. Yep, more dog whistles from the Romney family. Lovely. I'm totally convinced that if Mitt had been a candidate in the 60's, he would have adopted George Wallace rhetoric if he thought it would help him.
To paraphrase H.L. Mencken (?), I think Mitt would cheerfully endorse incest, cannibalism, or human sacrifice if he thought it would help him win.
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HappyWarrior Tue, Oct 9, 2012 11:31:17am |
re: #5 Shiplord Kirel
To paraphrase H.L. Mencken (?), I think Mitt would cheerfully endorse incest, cannibalism, or human sacrifice if he thought it would help him win.
Heh. Gotta love Mencken even if he was talking about a man whose presidency I generally like there.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Tue, Oct 9, 2012 11:31:30am |
re: #2 Charles Johnson
Yep. And the right wing base sure didn't miss the message.
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Racist motherfuckers are racist. It really is about getting a white Big Daddy back into the White House.
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engineer cat Tue, Oct 9, 2012 11:33:46am |
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DelusionDeluge Tue, Oct 9, 2012 11:34:19am |
Josh Romney has been proudly serving his country for seven years now. Talk about a brutal tour of duty.
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Destro Tue, Oct 9, 2012 11:34:54am |
re: #2 Charles Johnson
Yep. And the right wing base sure didn't miss the message.
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Obama = Obstinate Child = uppity boy
dog whistle? That's a fucking dog barking......
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erik_t Tue, Oct 9, 2012 11:38:33am |
I preferred following the obnoxious out-of-touch clueless rich asshole family back when they were called the Bluths.
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HappyWarrior Tue, Oct 9, 2012 11:40:24am |
re: #11 erik_t
I preferred following the obnoxious out-of-touch clueless rich asshole family back when they were called the Bluths.
Hahaha but the Bluths were more likable.
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erik_t Tue, Oct 9, 2012 11:42:17am |
re: #11 erik_t
I preferred following the obnoxious out-of-touch clueless rich asshole family back when they were called the Bluths.
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 11:43:12am |
re: #8 engineer cat
WILSON @wilsonkeywest
@Green_Footballs obama IS A
seventh grade comes back once again
[Link: plus.google.com...]
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HappyWarrior Tue, Oct 9, 2012 11:43:35am |
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Ojoe Tue, Oct 9, 2012 11:44:58am |
He's not an obstinate child. He's eye candy.
Fiiibbbith™ to all politicians.
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jaunte Tue, Oct 9, 2012 11:45:51am |
re: #4 Shiplord Kirel
So, this is one of those lying scoundrels Mitt was telling us about.
The little liars didn't fall far from the tree.
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HappyWarrior Tue, Oct 9, 2012 11:46:21am |
re: #16 Ojoe
He's not an obstinate child. He's eye candy.
No, he's the President of the United States and Josh Romney comparing the squabbles him and his brothers had as kids to the POTUS is patronizing bullshit.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Tue, Oct 9, 2012 11:46:30am |
Not to mention the fact whether or not being able to debate obstinate children is really a valuable commodity when dealing with various foreign leaders.
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HappyWarrior Tue, Oct 9, 2012 11:47:52am |
I can see though that Josh learned a lot from his Dad about lying one's ass off though. Great father he has.
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JamesWI Tue, Oct 9, 2012 11:48:05am |
re: #16 Ojoe
He's not an obstinate child. He's eye candy.
Fiiibbbith™ to all politicians.
But he's not eye candy to you. Oh no, you drool over the "Alpha Male." Mmmmmm, Alpha Males.
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HappyWarrior Tue, Oct 9, 2012 11:48:26am |
re: #21 JamesWI
But he's not eye candy to you. Oh no, you drool over the "Alpha Male." Mmmmmm, Alpha Males.
Mmmmmmmm milquetoast.
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Interesting Times Tue, Oct 9, 2012 11:48:43am |
re: #16 Ojoe
He's not an obstinate child. He's eye candy.
And Mr. "Ran off to France after protesting FOR the Vietnam War" is the ultimate Alpha Male™. Got it 9_9
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Lidane Tue, Oct 9, 2012 11:50:51am |
re: #10 Destro
Obama = Obstinate Child = uppity boy
dog whistle? That's a fucking dog barking......
It's not a dog whistle or a dog barking. It's a goddamned air raid siren of racist fail.
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HappyWarrior Tue, Oct 9, 2012 11:50:56am |
re: #23 Interesting Times
And Mr. "Ran off to France after protesting FOR the Vietnam War" is the ultimate Alpha Male™. Got it 9_9
Hey, it was tough doing all that missionary work. Unlike those pussies who hide out in Vietnam.
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The Ghost of a Flea Tue, Oct 9, 2012 11:51:40am |
re: #16 Ojoe
He's not an obstinate child. He's eye candy.
Fiiibbbith™ to all politicians.
Not so much a whig as a merkin.
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Ghost of Tom Joad Tue, Oct 9, 2012 11:52:57am |
re: #26 HappyWarrior
Hey, it was tough doing all that missionary work. Unlike those pussies who hide out in Vietnam.
Well, it may have actually been tougher for Mitt to sell his bullshit in France then take on the VC in Vietnam.///
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jaunte Tue, Oct 9, 2012 11:54:07am |
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Shiplord Kirel Tue, Oct 9, 2012 11:55:41am |
"We'd say the same lie over and over...."
Hmmm. Sounds like Josh and his brothers were rebellious and disrespectful children. It's fortunate for them that Mitt didn't seek the advice of fellow Republican Charley Fuqua for resolving this behavior.
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Amory Blaine Tue, Oct 9, 2012 11:56:08am |
My dad still wakes up with terrors from Vietnam. One night as a child I found him crawling around on the floor in the middle of the night. Vietnam is directly responsible for the violent tendencies that led to my parents divorce. All so Josh's dad could tool around Paris. Fuck you Josh.
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dragonath Tue, Oct 9, 2012 11:58:13am |
I've noticed this since Bush. Every time a Republican wins something, they have to rub it in everybody's face.
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Charles Johnson Tue, Oct 9, 2012 11:58:25am |
By the way, I think it's extremely weird that the Romney family is actually bragging about being relentless liars.
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HappyWarrior Tue, Oct 9, 2012 11:59:23am |
re: #30 Ghost of Tom Joad
Well, it may have actually been tougher for Mitt to sell his bullshit in France then take on the VC in Vietnam.///
I hear Mitt still has bad dreams about the time he got nervous talking to an older French woman about the book of Mormon.// Really, his story wouldn't bother me so much if he hadn't protested in favor of both the draft and the war, and then now have a totally cavalier attitude about war and engaging in fake tough talk bullshit.
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Lidane Tue, Oct 9, 2012 12:00:03pm |
re: #36 Charles Johnson
By the way, I think it's extremely weird that the Romney family is actually bragging about being relentless liars.
Why shouldn't they brag? Faux News and the RWNJ machine openly lie to people all the time and it's perfectly acceptable. The wingnuts live in desperate need of confirmation bias, so lying is A-OK as far as they're concerned.
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erik_t Tue, Oct 9, 2012 12:02:53pm |
re: #36 Charles Johnson
By the way, I think it's extremely weird that the Romney family is actually bragging about being relentless liars.
Apples didn't fall far &c &c.
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HappyWarrior Tue, Oct 9, 2012 12:03:04pm |
Romney family values:
- Liking to fire people
- lying
- Protesting in favor of war and then hiding out
- hypocrisy
Yep, lovely guy.
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jaunte Tue, Oct 9, 2012 12:04:03pm |
More Fox News fallout...
Today my wife's father hung up on her because she wouldn't agree with him that Obama was a communist.
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erik_t Tue, Oct 9, 2012 12:06:00pm |
re: #42 jaunte
Take-my-ball-and-go-home is a pillar of modern GOP discourse. Just ask Paul Ryan, but do it nicely or else he'll run away.
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darthstar Tue, Oct 9, 2012 12:13:53pm |
Romney campaign moves staff out of Pennsylvania, @sarah_boxer reports: cbsn.ws/PTq08B #Campaign2012— CBS News (@CBSNews) October 9, 2012
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Tigger2 Tue, Oct 9, 2012 12:14:29pm |
Did Destro post something else, I just had a hard time logging on and getting comments to load. lol
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Destro Tue, Oct 9, 2012 12:16:27pm |
re: #25 Lidane
It's not a dog whistle or a dog barking. It's a goddamned air raid siren of racist fail.
I can call it a racist fail when Obama wins. Till then the right wing racist dog whistle tactic is not to be taken lightly.
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Ghost of Tom Joad Tue, Oct 9, 2012 12:16:45pm |
re: #45 Tigger2
Did Destro post something else, I just had a hard time logging on and getting comments to load. lol
Ban him!
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 12:18:27pm |
Washington Times columnist says "cultural Muslim" Obama will be impeached & convicted if re-elected bit.ly/UEp7Zt— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) October 9, 2012
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Charles Johnson Tue, Oct 9, 2012 12:18:36pm |
We're still getting a lot of traffic from Reddit, causing occasional sluggishness.
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lawhawk Tue, Oct 9, 2012 12:19:36pm |
re: #44 darthstar
That seems to indicate he's shifting people from PA to OH, where voting is already underway, but in both cases, Obama/Democratic GOTV is much larger than Romney/GOP GOTV efforts.
Size/reach still matters.
Between the campaign and the national party, there are 24 offices in Pennsylvania, and 40 in Ohio.
By contrast, President Obama's campaign has 45 offices in Pennsylvania, and 120 in Ohio.
An Obama win in both states would make Romney's path to the WH all the more difficult.
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 12:20:35pm |
Randall Terry has written a poem for @samuelljackson entitled "The New Uncle Tom": mrctv.org/videos/randall… uncletomjackson.com
— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) October 9, 2012
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Lidane Tue, Oct 9, 2012 12:20:37pm |
re: #48 Gus
On what grounds?
I wish these assholes would explain just what Barack Obama has done that rises to the level of high crimes and misdemeanors. Last I checked, Being POTUS While Black isn't a crime, no matter how much they want it to be one.
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gwangung Tue, Oct 9, 2012 12:21:24pm |
re: #52 Lidane
On what grounds?
I wish these assholes would explain just what Barack Obama has done that rises to the level of high crimes and misdemeanors. Last I checked, Being POTUS While Black isn't a crime, no matter how much they want it to be one.
Well, not to Dems or Independents, at least....
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 12:21:33pm |
re: #51 Gus
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Fixed.
Randall Terry has written a poem for @samuelljackson entitled "The New Uncle Tom": mrctv.org/videos/randall… uncletomjackson.com
— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) October 9, 2012
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gwangung Tue, Oct 9, 2012 12:22:38pm |
re: #54 Gus
Fixed.
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White boy feel mighty comfortable callin' a brother an Uncle Tom.
Might say something there.
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Tigger2 Tue, Oct 9, 2012 12:22:45pm |
re: #52 Lidane
On what grounds?
I wish these assholes would explain just what Barack Obama has done that rises to the level of high crimes and misdemeanors. Last I checked, Being POTUS While Black isn't a crime, no matter how much they want it to be one.
Since when has the RightWing needed a true reason to act like assholes.
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Reverend Mother Ramallo Tue, Oct 9, 2012 12:23:17pm |
Early voting here in Ohio.
Mom and dad just finished casting their vote.
Two votes for Obama.
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Charles Johnson Tue, Oct 9, 2012 12:23:28pm |
re: #54 Gus
Fixed.
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I was just looking at the freak's video.
Again we see the linkage between extreme social conservatism and outright racism.
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darthstar Tue, Oct 9, 2012 12:24:16pm |
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HappyWarrior Tue, Oct 9, 2012 12:24:29pm |
re: #54 Gus
Fixed.
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God, first O'Keefe and now Terry. What is it with right wing nuts and pimp fantasies.
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gwangung Tue, Oct 9, 2012 12:24:50pm |
re: #58 Charles Johnson
I was just looking at the freak's video.
Again we see the linkage between extreme social conservatism and outright racism.
Yeah, Terry is mighty pasty to be using that term.
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Lidane Tue, Oct 9, 2012 12:25:12pm |
re: #57 Reverend Mother Ramallo
Early voting here in Ohio.
Mom and dad just finished casting their vote.
Two votes for Obama.
Early voting here in Texas starts on the 22nd. I definitely plan on casting my ballot that day.
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Reverend Mother Ramallo Tue, Oct 9, 2012 12:26:21pm |
re: #55 gwangung
White boy feel mighty comfortable callin' a brother an Uncle Tom.
Might say something there.
I would be interested in seeing him say that to Sam's face.
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erik_t Tue, Oct 9, 2012 12:26:36pm |
I'm waiting for someone to clearly and confidently explain that the only reason Obama fought to save GM is because Detroit has a large Muslim population.
Actually, I'm surprised it hasn't already happened.
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darthstar Tue, Oct 9, 2012 12:26:56pm |
No shit, John. You gave his foreign policy speech at the RNC in August yourself.
McCain: Romney wants US to stay at war in Iraq, Afghanistan indefinitelybit.ly/PlZpGN— Ray Lawson (@Lawsonbulk) October 9, 2012
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HappyWarrior Tue, Oct 9, 2012 12:27:41pm |
re: #66 darthstar
No shit, John. You gave his foreign policy speech at the RNC in August yourself.
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The sad thing is McCain is saying this like it's not necessary a bad thing.
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Ghost of Tom Joad Tue, Oct 9, 2012 12:27:51pm |
re: #65 erik_t
I'm waiting for someone to clearly and confidently explain that the only reason Obama fought to save GM is because Detroit has a large
Muslimblah population.Actually, I'm surprised it hasn't already happened.
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Lidane Tue, Oct 9, 2012 12:28:33pm |
BREAKING: U.S. sues Wells Fargo alleging civil mortgage fraudhuff.to/RNAo5B— Huffington Post (@HuffingtonPost) October 9, 2012
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gwangung Tue, Oct 9, 2012 12:28:46pm |
re: #64 Reverend Mother Ramallo
I would be interested in seeing him say that to Sam's face.
Gutless wonder wouldn't dare.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Tue, Oct 9, 2012 12:31:54pm |
re: #70 gwangung
Gutless wonder wouldn't dare.
Sam should pay him a visit.
"You called me an Uncle Tome? Well allow me to retort."
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dragonfire1981 Tue, Oct 9, 2012 12:32:04pm |
re: #36 Charles Johnson
By the way, I think it's extremely weird that the Romney family is actually bragging about being relentless liars.
There's an excellent book called The Cheating Culture: Why more Americans are doing wrong to get ahead.
In a nutshell, the book makes the argument that our society is set up so that people are encouraged to NOT play by the rules to get ahead, either because the chance of being caught it so low or because the potential benefit is so high.
The book addresses things like cheating on taxes, students getting ADD medication under false pretense so they can perform better on tests, people lying on resumes, youth sports leagues fudging documentation to make older players appear younger and so on and so forth.
Unfortunately, the central argument of the book has merit: One can often become more successful through breaking the rules rather than playing by them (As a recent example, look at the way the big banks made boatloads of money before the bust by throwing the mortgage rulebook away and lending to practically anyone who had a pulse).
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moderatelyradicalliberal Tue, Oct 9, 2012 12:33:14pm |
1,009,687 reason to not vote for Romney for president: There are five more of him.
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darthstar Tue, Oct 9, 2012 12:33:59pm |
re: #71 Reverend Mother Ramallo
Racist fuckers are exhausting.
Speaking of racist fuckers...the gal I mentioned unfriending on facebook the other day retaliated by unfriending my wife. I said, "Congratulations! You don't like her anyway!" She smiled.
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Reverend Mother Ramallo Tue, Oct 9, 2012 12:34:21pm |
re: #72 moderatelyradicalliberal
Sam should pay him a visit.
"You called me an Uncle Tome? Well allow me to retort."
I bet Sam can use the phrase 'Mutha-fucka' in ways I can't even imagine...
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dragonfire1981 Tue, Oct 9, 2012 12:34:50pm |
re: #74 moderatelyradicalliberal
1,009,687 reason to not vote for Romney for president: There are five more of him.
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Ghost of Tom Joad Tue, Oct 9, 2012 12:35:15pm |
re: #72 moderatelyradicalliberal
Sam should pay him a visit.
"You called me an Uncle Tome? Well allow me to retort."
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moderatelyradicalliberal Tue, Oct 9, 2012 12:37:15pm |
re: #76 Reverend Mother Ramallo
I bet Sam can use the phrase 'Mutha-fucka' in ways I can't even imagine...
He says it's his favorite word. But the late Bernie Mac would give him a run for his money.
[Link: www.quotefully.com...]
BERNIE MAC
When you're listening to one of our conversations you might here the word MOTHER FUCKER about 32 times. Don't be afraid of the word MOTHER FUCKER... Imma break it down to ya... If you're out there this afternoon and you see like 3 or 4 brothers talkin', you might hear a conversation and it goes like this: You seen that MOTHER FUCKIN' Bobby? That MOTHER FUCKER owes me 35 MOTHER FUCKEN dollars! He told me he gone pay my MOTHER FUCKEN money last MOTHER FUCKEN week. I aint seen this MOTHER FUCKER yet! I'm not gonna chase this MOTHER FUCKER for my 35 MOTHER FUCKEN dollars. I called the MOTHER FUCKER four MOTHER FUCKEN times... but the MOTHER FUCKER won't call me back. I called his momma the other MOTHER FUCKEN day... she gonna play like the MOTHER FUCKER wasn't in. I started to cuss her MOTHER FUCKEN ass out, but I don't want no MOTHER FUCKEN trouble. But I'll tell ya one MOTHER FUCKEN thang... the next MOTHER FUCKEN time I see this MOTHER FUCKER... and he ain't got my MOTHER FUCKEN money... I'm gonna bust - his - MOTHER FUCKEN head! And I'm OUT this MOTHA FUCKA!
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Ming Tue, Oct 9, 2012 12:37:56pm |
"Obstinate" means someone who isn't doing what you want them to do. Like a slave, or a home appliance. This is what the you-people are to the Romneys: things that can sometimes serve them. "Good" = compliant. "Bad" = obstinate.
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Lidane Tue, Oct 9, 2012 12:38:57pm |
re: #69 Lidane
I actually interviewed with Wells Fargo for a Financial Advisor position. I made it to the second round of interviews, but withdrew my application when the job I just accepted started moving forward.
I'm glad I did. The whole process felt mechanical and impersonal. Going to work for them just felt all kinds of wrong.
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dragonfire1981 Tue, Oct 9, 2012 12:41:41pm |
re: #82 Lidane
I actually interviewed with Wells Fargo for a Financial Advisor position. I made it to the second round of interviews, but withdrew my application when the job I just accepted started moving forward.
I'm glad I did. The whole process felt mechanical and impersonal. Going to work for them just felt all kinds of wrong.
Any chance you could elaborate on that a bit? I'm curious.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Tue, Oct 9, 2012 12:43:40pm |
re: #83 dragonfire1981
Any chance you could elaborate on that a bit? I'm curious.
Probably something to do with implants and absorbing his cultural and personal diversity into the collective.
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 12:45:32pm |
It's OK to viciously attack women online, so long as they are liberal queenofspainblog.com/2012/10/09/its… #tcot #p2
— Erin Kotecki Vest (@QueenofSpain) October 9, 2012
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Lidane Tue, Oct 9, 2012 12:52:05pm |
re: #83 dragonfire1981
Any chance you could elaborate on that a bit? I'm curious.
One person in the Mountain time zone scheduled the interviews. Another person in the Eastern time zone would call to do the interviews. Nothing was done in person.
The first interview I went through was nothing but two roleplay scenarios that took almost an hour. The first scenario was a cold prospect of a new business executive in your area, and you have to close the deal with a commitment to use Wells Fargo services at the end. The second scenario was trying to convince an unhappy client whose portfolio lost money based on your investment advice to stay with Wells Fargo. There was also a secondary objective of getting them to invest more money in order to take advantage of a downturn in an investment.
We never talked about my skills or what I could bring to the table or anything else. It was pretty much just those two scenes. I guess the second interview would have been more personal, but I'll never know. *shrug*
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darthstar Tue, Oct 9, 2012 12:53:43pm |
Officially, Romney has been running for president since June, 2011. Unofficially, he’s been running for a lot longer than that. During that time he made quite a few policy commitments, although surprisingly few people seem to remember or have noticed all of them.
He said he would cap federal spending at 20 percent of gross domestic product, setting aside 4 percent of GDP for defense spending. Such a limit would force draconian, virtually unthinkable cuts to programs like food inspections, public housing, air traffic control: Pretty much anything, and quite possibly everything, the federal government does besides defense and Social Security would be subject to serious funding cuts. Romney also vowed to repeal Obamacare and to end Medicaid as we know it. In its place, he proposed a tax deduction and a scaled-down insurance program for the poor that would, at best, cover only a fraction of the same people. According to independent and non-partisan estimates, tens of millions of Americans would lose health insurance. Among them would be the poorest and sickest people in America, depending on how states dealt with the funding cuts.
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darthstar Tue, Oct 9, 2012 12:55:40pm |
re: #87 darthstar
retweetable:
@citizencohn rips @mittromney a new asshole tnr.com/blog/plank/108...Well done.#p2— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) October 9, 2012
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dragonfire1981 Tue, Oct 9, 2012 1:03:49pm |
re: #86 Lidane
One person in the Mountain time zone scheduled the interviews. Another person in the Eastern time zone would call to do the interviews. Nothing was done in person.
The first interview I went through was nothing but two roleplay scenarios that took almost an hour. The first scenario was a cold prospect of a new business executive in your area, and you have to close the deal with a commitment to use Wells Fargo services at the end. The second scenario was trying to convince an unhappy client whose portfolio lost money based on your investment advice to stay with Wells Fargo. There was also a secondary objective of getting them to invest more money in order to take advantage of a downturn in an investment.
We never talked about my skills or what I could bring to the table or anything else. It was pretty much just those two scenes. I guess the second interview would have been more personal, but I'll never know. *shrug*
Ugh, I hate phone interviews. I like to be able to see who I'm talking to.
I'm with you on the role plays, they are seldom very effective or educational the way most big companies do them.
Sadly, for more and more jobs, quality training has gone the way of the dodo.
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engineer cat Tue, Oct 9, 2012 1:05:16pm |
i don't even want to think about the election today
the prospect of lyin' ryan getting his hands on ss and medicare makes me ill
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engineer cat Tue, Oct 9, 2012 1:06:13pm |
MOTHA FUCKIN
i have yet to see this used as a preposition
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 1:07:28pm |
Fucking IMF. When are American rednecks going to also realize that we are in a global recession?
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 1:08:28pm |
CNN/ORC Poll: Obama 51%; Romney 47% in battleground Ohio. on.cnn.com/Pm3omK #CNNElection
— CNN Breaking News (@cnnbrk) October 9, 2012
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Tue, Oct 9, 2012 1:09:16pm |
re: #93 Gus
Fucking IMF. When are American rednecks going to also realize that we are in a global recession?
Foreign countries are a distraction, remember?
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engineer cat Tue, Oct 9, 2012 1:10:16pm |
re: #94 Gus
CNN Breaking News
✔
CNN/ORC Poll: Obama 51%; Romney 47% in battleground Ohio. on.cnn.com/Pm3omK #CNNElection
i always liked orcs anyway
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Lidane Tue, Oct 9, 2012 1:10:57pm |
re: #93 Gus
When are American rednecks going to also realize that we are in a global recession?
America is exceptional! We're the center of the world! Who cares about a bunch of socialist foreigners and their problems?
///
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wrenchwench Tue, Oct 9, 2012 1:11:54pm |
re: #93 Gus
Fucking IMF. When are American rednecks going to also realize that we are in a global recession?
NSFW; language.
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Lidane Tue, Oct 9, 2012 1:12:06pm |
Haha:
Andrew Sullivan meltdown GIFs. twitpic.com/b2nilk buzzfeed.com/dorsey/andrew-...— Andrew Kaczynski (@BuzzFeedAndrew) October 9, 2012
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 1:12:21pm |
More on the 14 year old girl that was almost assassinated by the Taliban:
...The Pakistani Taliban claimed responsibility for the attack, saying Ms. Yousafzai had been targeted for her criticism of the Taliban and because it considered her human rights campaigning to be an “obscenity.”
“She has become a symbol of Western culture in the area; she was openly propagating it,” a Taliban spokesman, Ehsanullah Ehsan, said by phone from an undisclosed location. “She considers Obama as her ideal leader.”
The Taliban publicly placed Ms. Yousafzai on its assassination hit list this spring. Mr. Ehsan added that if she survived, the militants would try to kill her again. “Let this be a lesson,” he said. ..
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 1:14:00pm |
an old photo of me with #Malala and her wonderful dad in 09, near the Peshawar Press Club, which was later bombed. twitter.com/aellick/status...— Adam B. Ellick (@aellick) October 9, 2012
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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course) Tue, Oct 9, 2012 1:16:56pm |
re: #73 dragonfire1981
There's an excellent book called The Cheating Culture: Why more Americans are doing wrong to get ahead.
In a nutshell, the book makes the argument that our society is set up so that people are encouraged to NOT play by the rules to get ahead, either because the chance of being caught it so low or because the potential benefit is so high.recent example, look at the way the big banks made boatloads of money before the bust by throwing the mortgage rulebook away and lending to practically anyone who had a pulse).
Yep, I still remember the first time I heard a basketball ref say, "That was an effective use of a foul," and I realized that rule-breaking was now encouraged.
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dragonath Tue, Oct 9, 2012 1:22:19pm |
re: #73 dragonfire1981
And in many ways, isn't it a central business thesis that companies should charge as much as the market will bear? That attitude, at least, has trickled down.
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Lidane Tue, Oct 9, 2012 1:23:29pm |
re: #90 dragonfire1981
Ugh, I hate phone interviews. I like to be able to see who I'm talking to.
I'm with you on the role plays, they are seldom very effective or educational the way most big companies do them.
Sadly, for more and more jobs, quality training has gone the way of the dodo.
Funny thing is, the job I just accepted was a position I applied for through LinkedIn and my first two interviews were done by phone. They just happened to go really well because I meshed with both my then future boss and with the COO of the company when we spoke. The last interview was in person, and that's where I clinched it.
It wasn't so much the phone interview thing that killed it for me with Wells Fargo, it's the fact that the interview had nothing to do with me personally or what I could bring to the company. It was just these dumb, arbitrary roleplay scenarios. Blah.
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Eventual Carrion Tue, Oct 9, 2012 1:26:36pm |
re: #105 Lidane
Funny thing is, the job I just accepted was a position I applied for through LinkedIn and my first two interviews were done by phone. They just happened to go really well because I meshed with both my then future boss and with the COO of the company when we spoke. The last interview was in person, and that's where I clinched it.
It wasn't so much the phone interview thing that killed it for me with Wells Fargo, it's the fact that the interview had nothing to do with me personally or what I could bring to the company. It was just these dumb, arbitrary roleplay scenarios. Blah.
And from your revel of what they asked it sounds like it was "call to sell more" or "soothe and then sell more". Nothing about what you might be able to do to make things better for the client. But I guess that is what business is all about now, as they call it in McDonalds counter terms "suggestive selling".
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 1:28:19pm |
re: #106 Sheeplord
She's a hero. So's her dad.
Why we fight. #Malala twitter.com/Gus_802/status…
— Gus (@Gus_802) October 9, 2012
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Mattand Tue, Oct 9, 2012 1:28:22pm |
What's irritating about the Romney brood bascially calling Obama an "obstinate child"* is that these jackasses have had the same amount of hardships in their life as their dad: basically zero.
It's no so much the ad hominen attacks as it is the people delivering them.** It's really galling to watch children of privilege describe someone who has worked their up from nothing as "lazy".
Was George Romney as big a doucebag as his kids and grandkids seem to be?
* To the few conservatives who might read this: Josh Romney compared Obama to an obstinate child. Save your fucking breath with any "he didn't use that exact phrasing" horseshit.
** The attack is very much a not-so-subtle racial dig. For this post I'm focusing on the "rich kid calling a self-made man lazy" insult.
EDIT: added "as their dad" to first paragraph.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Oct 9, 2012 1:29:02pm |
re: #102 Gus
[Embedded content]
Probably not the same guy on the right but he does look a little similar.
Did the CIA Have a Double Agent Inside al Qaeda?
A Danish man claims he worked with the CIA to infiltrate al Qaeda as a double agent for years and helped track radical cleric Anwar al-Awlaki until the prominent al Qaeda figure was killed in an American drone strike, according to a Danish news report.
The man, who calls himself Morten Storm, provided evidence to the Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten that he was a former radical who had been turned by the Danish intelligence service (PET) and later worked with the CIA so closely that he says President Obama knew his name. Storm said he was the one who sent Anwar al-Awlaki, the al Qaeda preacher linked to several American terror plots, a USB stick that contained a tracking device that eventually allowed an American drone to take him out in September 2011.
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Mattand Tue, Oct 9, 2012 1:30:41pm |
re: #108 Gus
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People wonder why I'm an atheist. What happend to this poor kid is a prime example.
Where was God when she needed protecting? Oh, right: too busy letting other kids starve to death or die of cancer.
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 1:32:07pm |
re: #111 Mattand
People wonder why I'm an atheist. What happend to this poor kid is a prime example.
Where was God when she needed protecting? Oh, right: too busy letting other kids starve to death or die of cancer.
True but the majority of people supporting her are also religious and believe in God.
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Mattand Tue, Oct 9, 2012 1:34:12pm |
re: #112 Gus
True but the majority of people supporting her are also religious and believe in God.
That doesn't make me feel any better. I would imagine a good chunk of them are rationalizing her death as either God's mysterious plan or God's wrath.
Very, very few of them will stop and question why an all powerful deity would let a child die like this.
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wrenchwench Tue, Oct 9, 2012 1:35:15pm |
re: #110 Killgore Trout
Probably not the same guy on the right but he does look a little similar.
Did the CIA Have a Double Agent Inside al Qaeda?
Yeah, except for the color of his eyes and the shape of his face and his facial features and stuff.
Looks completely different, actually.
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Lidane Tue, Oct 9, 2012 1:36:21pm |
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Mattand Tue, Oct 9, 2012 1:39:36pm |
re: #115 Lidane
Nope:
It makes you wonder if Mitt looked at what happend to his Dad and said, "Fuck it, I'm gonna win any way possible."
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Ghost of Tom Joad Tue, Oct 9, 2012 1:40:16pm |
re: #115 Lidane
No. Mitt seems to be one of those children who does everything he can to not be his father. I just get that feeling about him. No idea if it's a subconscious thing, personal, Daddy issues, or just that he's an intolerable prick by nature.
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engineer cat Tue, Oct 9, 2012 1:41:02pm |
re: #109 Mattand
self-made man
people who insist that they are a self-made man open themselves up to the charge of poor workmanship
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Mattand Tue, Oct 9, 2012 1:43:11pm |
re: #119 engineer cat
people who insist that they are a self-made man open themselves up to the charge of poor workmanship
I guess. It's probably why you never hear Obama use the phrase about himself.
Still, to watch this guy Josh, who literally had millions of dollars to his name before his umbilical cord was cut, call Obama lazy is staggering in its sheer arrogance.
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 1:43:23pm |
Oh shit.
On the CBS News Live feed, we now go to aerials at a North Richland Hills, TX, Restaurant Shooting— CBS Live Feed Update (@newspathweb) October 9, 2012
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Mattand Tue, Oct 9, 2012 1:44:00pm |
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 1:44:06pm |
One dead & one injured after shooting in NRH at Hunan Wok: Live video: bit.ly/R4PXD6 #nrhshooting twitter.com/NBCDFW/status/...— NBC DFW (@NBCDFW) October 9, 2012
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darthstar Tue, Oct 9, 2012 1:51:48pm |
At Ohio State University rally, DJ playing "Sesame Street" theme. Gads.— Olivier Knox (@OKnox) October 9, 2012
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Amory Blaine Tue, Oct 9, 2012 1:53:15pm |
Ohio State Marching Band video game theme
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Aye Pod Tue, Oct 9, 2012 1:54:32pm |
re: #16 Ojoe
He's not an obstinate child. He's eye candy.
How many times have you repeated this now? You may find him physically attractive (and clearly you do) but he has a lot more going for him than just his looks.
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Eventual Carrion Tue, Oct 9, 2012 1:57:34pm |
re: #129 Aye Pod
How many times have you repeated this now? You may find him physically attractive (and clearly you do) but he has a lot more going for him than just his looks.
Unrequited love can cause some real turmoil unless confronted head on.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Oct 9, 2012 1:57:50pm |
@wilsonkeywest The Dry Cleaners asked me to remind you that your Klan robes have been waiting for you to pick them up for a week,
— Kurt Akemann (@Dark_Falcon7) October 9, 2012
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Charles Johnson Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:03:28pm |
Trying to decide whether I should give this CDN service a try:
[Link: www.cloudflare.com...]
It might help prevent outages like we had yesterday. Somebody recommended it in yesterday's Hamster thread.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:07:19pm |
re: #132 Charles Johnson
Trying to decide whether I should give this CDN service a try:
[Link: www.cloudflare.com...]
It might help prevent outages like we had yesterday. Somebody recommended it in yesterday's Hamster thread.
I thought it said "outrage" rather than "outage" for a second there. So the follow-on thought was "Hamster OUTRAGE!!11!!".
:D
Time to head home. Work has definitely gone to my head today.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:07:24pm |
re: #132 Charles Johnson
Trying to decide whether I should give this CDN service a try:
[Link: www.cloudflare.com...]
It might help prevent outages like we had yesterday. Somebody recommended it in yesterday's Hamster thread.
Are they set up to move as fast as this place does during a debate or on election night?
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:09:46pm |
Pres. Obama LIVE NOW at #OhioState 10tv.com/content/sectio... c-span.org/Campaign2012/E... new.livestream.com/barackobama/Co... ustream.tv/cbsnews— utaustinliberal (@utaustinliberal) October 9, 2012
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:11:18pm |
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:15:19pm |
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:15:49pm |
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:16:02pm |
Romney invested in 10 Chinese companies recently--including ones that partnered with Iran & stole US trade secrets: bit.ly/Rt6Mse— Mother Jones (@MotherJones) October 9, 2012
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Lidane Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:16:49pm |
Heh. This should be fun:
Open Letter To Andrew Sullivan | Angry Black Lady Chronicles | buff.ly/Rum9k8 - @anibundel #p2 #TFY #ABLC— Imani ABL (@AngryBlackLady) October 9, 2012
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Digital Display Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:17:27pm |
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darthstar Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:18:20pm |
re: #139 Gus
blind trust. Yeah, Romney says it's a sham...he should know.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:21:17pm |
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wrenchwench Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:22:44pm |
re: #133 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste
I thought it said "outrage" rather than "outage" for a second there. So the follow-on thought was "Hamster OUTRAGE!!11!!".
:D
Time to head home. Work has definitely gone to my head today.
...
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darthstar Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:22:55pm |
OpenDyslexic - a new font to help people with Dyslexia. Pretty fucking cool. Actually makes reading pretty easy for people without Dyslexia too.
[Link: dyslexicfonts.com...]
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:23:02pm |
Kirk Cameron tells historically Baptist @libertyu that Puritans, who persecuted Baptists, supported religious freedom bit.ly/UPXbMF— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) October 9, 2012
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darthstar Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:24:12pm |
Yet another Romney home state headed in the right direction:
HOME STATE PANIC RT "@igorvolsky: Obama leads Romney by 6 points in NH: wmur.com/news/politics/..."— jenny (@Me4obama) October 9, 2012
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:24:19pm |
re: #148 Lidane
This is what happens when you let David Barton teach you history:
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34 seconds! //
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Targetpractice Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:25:19pm |
re: #147 Gus
[Embedded content]
Let me guess, Kirk also believes that the Puritans came here to escape religious persecution and enjoy religious freedom, rather than because they were the persecutors and the folks back home had had enough of their shit?
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Killgore Trout Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:26:13pm |
The ‘Facts’ According to Obama and Romney Ads
In dueling ads, the Obama and Romney campaigns claim the factual high ground on deficits and taxes while, ironically, distorting the facts.
An Obama ad uses a truncated quote that makes NBC’s Andrea Mitchell seem to contradict Romney’s statement that his tax plan doesn’t amount to a $5 trillion cut. In fact, she went on to say Romney “said again tonight that his plan would be paid for.”
A Romney ad claims Obama is “adding almost as much debt as all 43 previous presidents combined.” It’s true that debt held by the public is up 79 percent since Obama took office, but that’s not all his fault. As we’ve often noted, the fiscal 2009 deficit was already running at an officially projected $1.2 trillion before he was sworn in.It has been our experience at FactCheck.org that when a political campaign touts that it is providing “facts,” it’s wise to proceed with skepticism. These two competing ads from the Obama and Romney campaigns, both released after the first presidential debate, prove our point.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:28:22pm |
This woman was nearly our VP.
[Link: passthedoucheys.com...]
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:29:23pm |
re: #153 Killgore Trout
Good article, fair and impartial. Sadly, I fear it will be tagged as being "Magical Balance Fairy".
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moderatelyradicalliberal Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:29:31pm |
re: #153 Killgore Trout
How are the $5 trillion in tax cuts going to be paid for? Romney hasn't answered that questions yet has he?
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Targetpractice Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:32:27pm |
re: #157 moderatelyradicalliberal
How are the $5 trillion in tax cuts going to be paid for? Romney hasn't answered that questions yet has he?
And how does their being "paid for" negate them being cuts?
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:32:37pm |
re: #154 moderatelyradicalliberal
This woman was nearly our VP.
[Link: passthedoucheys.com...]
That nasty bit of snark was just plain ugly. The blogger's words reminded me of how the Stalkers talk. No downding, but try this link to a Daily Fail story for a less nasty reading.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:32:59pm |
re: #156 Dark_Falcon
Good article, fair and impartial. Sadly, I fear it will be tagged as being "Magical Balance Fairy".
Of course it will. But I think it's important to understand it may be hard for Obama to gain the upper hand when it comes to the truth wars. I do think that Mitt is more full of shit than Obama but enough questionable claims have come from the Obama camp for legitimate criticism. I think to the general public, and more importantly swing voters, it all comes out as a wash.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:34:23pm |
re: #160 Killgore Trout
Of course it will. But I think it's important to understand it may be hard for Obama to gain the upper hand when it comes to the truth wars. I do think that Mitt is more full of shit than Obama but enough questionable claims have come from the Obama camp for legitimate criticism. I think to the general public, and more importantly swing voters, it all comes out as a wash.
Concur.
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Targetpractice Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:34:37pm |
re: #160 Killgore Trout
Of course it will. But I think it's important to understand it may be hard for Obama to gain the upper hand when it comes to the truth wars. I do think that Mitt is more full of shit than Obama but enough questionable claims have come from the Obama camp for legitimate criticism. I think to the general public, and more importantly swing voters, it all comes out as a wash.
So you're "concerned"?
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darthstar Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:35:04pm |
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:35:54pm |
re: #161 A Mom Anon
She does not look healthy at all.
No she doesn't. She looks sickly thin. Her daughter Willow, however, looks very much Bristol's sister, with enough of a change in face to be different.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:36:57pm |
re: #158 Targetpractice
And how does their being "paid for" negate them being cuts?
They don't. My point is her follow-up that the tax cuts will be paid for doesn't mean shit when Willard won't say how. This is the question that is never answered because they know that nobody will like the answer.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:37:45pm |
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darthstar Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:37:59pm |
re: #165 Gus
She reads all of 'em. Enquirer, News of the World, People, all the fancy papers and magazines.
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wrenchwench Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:38:07pm |
re: #168 moderatelyradicalliberal
They don't. My point is her follow-up that the tax cuts will be paid for doesn't mean shit when Willard won't say how. This is the question that is never answered because they know that nobody will like the answer.
MITT MATH: HUGE TAX CUTS + STEAL SOCIAL SECURITY= MUCHO MITT MONEY!— Mexican Mitt Romneez (@MexicanMitt) October 9, 2012
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Killgore Trout Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:38:10pm |
re: #163 Targetpractice
So you're "concerned"?
Not about ads, I think that comes out even. I'm more concerned that Obama campaign focusing on Big Bird might not sway indy's. I'm also concerned that if Obama doesn't perform better in the remaining debates and Mitt may gain momentum. It's Obama's election to lose.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:38:25pm |
I don't like Sarah Palin either, but to fling ugly insults at her is still being an asshole.
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wrenchwench Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:38:42pm |
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moderatelyradicalliberal Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:38:48pm |
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darthstar Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:39:40pm |
re: #167 Gus
Trashy chic. This brings me back to the question I asked in 2008...does she have a tramp stamp tattoo or not?
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:40:30pm |
re: #177 darthstar
Trashy chic. This brings me back to the question I asked in 2008...does she have a tramp stamp tattoo or not?
People of Walmart: Sarah Palin Edition: #p2 #tlot #Trashy She's reading the National Enquirer. twitter.com/Gus_802/status...— Gus (@Gus_802) October 9, 2012
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Targetpractice Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:41:01pm |
re: #172 Killgore Trout
Not about ads, I think that comes out even. I'm more concerned that Obama campaign focusing on Big Bird might not sway indy's. I'm also concerned that if Obama doesn't perform better in the remaining debates and Mitt may gain momentum. It's Obama's election to lose.
Do you have reason to believe he won't perform better?
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darthstar Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:41:48pm |
re: #175 moderatelyradicalliberal
Oh, man. That one is worse.
I could see this guy driving by and getting a whistle from her.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:43:25pm |
re: #180 Targetpractice
Do you have reason to believe he won't perform better?
I don't know. I was surprised he did so poorly last time. Anything can happen.
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darthstar Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:43:38pm |
Romney: "federal spending has accelerated at a pace without precedent in recent history." Lie. Slowest growth in spending since Truman!— Bob Cesca (@bobcesca_go) October 9, 2012
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wrenchwench Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:44:00pm |
Mitt Romney stopping at Wendy's in Cuyahoga Falls Ohio for snack or first dinner— Steve Holland (@steveholland1) October 9, 2012
Romney's first move at Wendy's was to sit down with two unsuspecting women and snag some of their fries— Steve Holland (@steveholland1) October 9, 2012
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moderatelyradicalliberal Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:44:32pm |
re: #172 Killgore Trout
Not about ads, I think that comes out even. I'm more concerned that Obama campaign focusing on Big Bird might not sway indy's. I'm also concerned that if Obama doesn't perform better in the remaining debates and Mitt may gain momentum. It's Obama's election to lose.
The ad isn't even running on TV. They haven't put any money into it. It's for the bass. Its about how awful Romney is and how easy he is to make fun of. The only reason you know about is because the media is stupid and love a shiny object.
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erik_t Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:44:52pm |
re: #183 darthstar
No precedent for such slow growth. Rating: Mostly true.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:45:21pm |
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darthstar Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:45:55pm |
re: #184 wrenchwench
[Embedded content]
"Hi, I'm Mitt Romney and I'm running for President...oh, are those Freedom Fries? Can I try one? OHMYGOD! You actually eat this stuff?!?"
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moderatelyradicalliberal Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:46:00pm |
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Targetpractice Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:46:04pm |
re: #182 Killgore Trout
I don't know. I was surprised he did so poorly last time. Anything can happen.
I wasn't surprised, but that's because I was watching the debate. And what I saw was piss-poor moderation and a Romney whose tactic was to bury Obama in bullshit at such a rate that by the time he'd addressed one lie, ten more were lined up against him.
This isn't 1980 and Romney is not gonna reinvent himself in one debate as the savior of the Union. His ass is still so far down in the hole that he's gonna need help to crawl to the top.
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:47:10pm |
New Poll: Tammy Duckworth up 10pts over Rep. Joe Walsh - dangerous territory for an incumbent #IL08 dems.me/QN8NA9— DCCC (@dccc) October 8, 2012
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darthstar Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:48:20pm |
Chia Pet halloween costume.
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The Mongoose Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:48:39pm |
re: #185 moderatelyradicalliberal
The ad isn't even running on TV. They haven't put any money into it. It's for the bass. Its about how awful Romney is and how easy he is to make fun of. The only reason you know about is because the media is stupid and love a shiny object.
Well, I'm sure the Obama campaign was hoping to get some free media out of it which is exactly what happened. I do agree it plays mostly to the base and won't have much impact directly. The Romney campaign and its surrogates can either ignore it, or play it as "Obama's so desperate he's focusing on Big Bird instead of the economy." My guess is the campaign will do the former, conservative talking heads the latter.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:48:58pm |
re: #192 Gus
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But, but, but............Obama's terrible debate performance out down ticket Dems at risk!1111!!1
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Charles Johnson Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:49:59pm |
re: #172 Killgore Trout
I'm more concerned that Obama campaign focusing on Big Bird might not sway indy's.
"Focusing on Big Bird?" Here, have a look at the videos uploaded to YouTube by the Obama campaign:
[Link: www.youtube.com...]
There are about 60 total, and I only see one about Romney's Big Bird remarks.
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:51:24pm |
re: #197 Dark_Falcon
BS automated poll. Those are unreliable.
Joe Walsh is a scumbag. I'm surprised it's even this close.
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The Mongoose Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:51:53pm |
re: #195 moderatelyradicalliberal
But, but, but............Obama's terrible debate performance out down ticket Dems at risk!1111!!1
Yeah, that's pretty alarmist. The mid-term impact on the Presidential race is still undetermined, let alone downticket races. A few places aside, the congressional race is shaping up fairly close to expectations, though I'm sure Republicans thought they'd be in better shape in the senate race right now.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:52:08pm |
re: #197 Dark_Falcon
BS automated poll. Those are unreliable.
The poll may be BS, but Joe Walsh is not going to keep that seat. He's a terrible congressman and a terrible person. He's toast.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:53:40pm |
re: #196 Charles Johnson
"Focusing on Big Bird?" Here, have a look at the videos uploaded to YouTube by the Obama campaign:
[Link: www.youtube.com...]
There are about 60 total, and I only see one about Romney's Big Bird remarks.
Bid Bird is an outrage, but Romney's lying racist dog whistle welfare ads are perfectly acceptable.
IOKIYAR!
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Romantic Heretic Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:54:01pm |
re: #58 Charles Johnson
I was just looking at the freak's video.
Again we see the linkage between extreme social conservatism and outright
racismlunacy.
FTFY.
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Amory Blaine Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:54:07pm |
Elections board warns about confusing mailers
MADISON, Wis. -
Wisconsin election officials are warning voters to be cautious about slick mailings giving misleading or incorrect information about voter registration and absentee voting.
The Government Accountability Board said in a release Monday that it and local election officials around the state have been receiving an increasing number of questions and complaints and recent mailings that contain errors that could interfere with voting.
One of the mailings in question from the Republican Party of Wisconsin incorrectly told residents in the heavily Democratic areas of Madison and Dane County to return voter registration applications to the town of Albion, even if they did not live there.
Board director Kevin Kennedy recommends that voters rely on information from their local municipal clerk's office or the Myvote.wi.gov website.
In-person early voting begins Oct. 22.
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The Mongoose Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:54:14pm |
re: #200 moderatelyradicalliberal
The poll may be BS, but Joe Walsh is not going to keep that seat. He's a terrible congressman and a terrible person. He's toast.
Can't comment on Walsh as I know nothing about him, but I agree he's probably going to lose. He's way behind.
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engineer cat Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:55:09pm |
the big bird thing must be cutting since i saw a romney spokesman on teevee this morning getting asked about it, and his reaction was plenty pissy
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moderatelyradicalliberal Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:56:22pm |
re: #199 The Mongoose
Yeah, that's pretty alarmist. The mid-term impact on the Presidential race is still undetermined, let alone downticket races. A few places aside, the congressional race is shaping up fairly close to expectations, though I'm sure Republicans thought they'd be in better shape in the senate race right now.
No matter what happens after Nov. 6 there are people who I will never listen to or read again. My choices of non alarmist media are getting very narrow.
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erik_t Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:56:31pm |
re: #204 The Mongoose
Can't comment on Walsh as I know nothing about him, but I agree he's probably going to lose. He's way behind.
Shitbag of the highest order. Probably (?) a more effective legislator than some bozo like Louie Gohmert, but also more personally disgusting.
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engineer cat Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:57:09pm |
Again we see the linkage between extreme social conservatism and outright racism lunacy.
it's a witch's brew of stupidity, ignorance, racism, emotional disorders, stupidity, racism, and stupidity
and spam
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moderatelyradicalliberal Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:58:02pm |
re: #205 engineer cat
the big bird thing must be cutting since i saw a romney spokesman on teevee this morning getting asked about it, and his reaction was plenty pissy
Well the as makes fun of Willard and shows contempt for him and Rich White Big Daddy doesn't like that.
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wrenchwench Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:58:30pm |
Oooooh ahh followed by LOL:
@borderreporterIt was Jan Brewer's first china— Ricardo C. Gochicoa (@errentera) October 9, 2012
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jaunte Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:58:59pm |
re: #209 moderatelyradicalliberal
Well the as makes fun of Willard and shows contempt for him and Rich White Big Daddy doesn't like that.
"This interview is over until such time as you're ready to show me the proper respect!"
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 2:59:10pm |
Welch can't take the heat: I quit
By Stephen Gandel, senior editor October 9, 2012: 12:43 PM ET
The former top GE executive says he will no longer write for Fortune following coverage of his jobs conspiracy tweet.
FORTUNE -- Jack Welch has left our building, metaphorically that is.
Welch said he will no longer contribute to Fortune following critical coverage of the former CEO of General Electric, saying he would get better "traction" elsewhere. On Friday, Welch suggested that the Obama administration, calling them "these Chicago guys," had manipulated the monthly jobs report in order to make the economy look better than it actually is just weeks before the election. Welch has been battered by criticism since making the suggestion on Twitter...
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moderatelyradicalliberal Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:00:10pm |
re: #212 Gus
Welch can't take the heat: I quit
By Stephen Gandel, senior editor October 9, 2012: 12:43 PM ET
The former top GE executive says he will no longer write for Fortune following coverage of his jobs conspiracy tweet.
Another Rich White Big Daddy who couldn't take being questioned and laughed at.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:00:26pm |
re: #210 wrenchwench
Oooooh ahh followed by ASS:
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fixed. The pottery is impressive, the tweeted reply was some guy being a jerk.
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wrenchwench Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:00:27pm |
My previews have slipped to mid-page and lower. Can they be moved up? (I get a scroll bar on the biggies, but still can't see the bottom.)
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:01:02pm |
re: #216 Dark_Falcon
fixed. The pottery is impressive, the tweeted reply was some guy being a jerk.
Why? Jan Brewer is a crazy ass bigot.
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Digital Display Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:03:10pm |
Those cheap shots against Sarah Palin are uncalled for. all things in the political arena are in bounds but mocking looks or shopping with a daughter cheapens all of us. I'm also about over it with the Media. Is there no fair commentary left? I haven't thought journalists were smart people for years now. They are blinded by the light. I remember reading stories about me playing ball in College. They were lucky to get any facts right.
Fact checkers my ass
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:03:17pm |
re: #218 Gus
Why? Jan Brewer is a crazy ass bigot.
I consider making 'old' jokes about a woman to be low-class and jerkish.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:03:46pm |
re: #219 Digital Display
Those cheap shots against Sarah Palin are uncalled for. all things in the political arena are in bounds but mocking looks or shopping with a daughter cheapens all of us. I'm also about over it with the Media. Is there no fair commentary left? I haven't thought journalists were smart people for years now. They are blinded by the light. I remember reading stories about me playing ball in College. They were lucky to get any facts right.
Fact checkers my ass
Quoted for Truth.
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Charles Johnson Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:04:14pm |
re: #217 wrenchwench
My previews have slipped to mid-page and lower. Can they be moved up? (I get a scroll bar on the biggies, but still can't see the bottom.)
Oh, yeah -- that last one had a rather large image in it, that's why. The embedded tweet is inserted by Twitter's code, and unfortunately they don't give me any way to know when it's finished. So the image just is inserted in there, and it forces the bottom of the preview dialog down off your screen.
Actually, just had an idea I might try.
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wrenchwench Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:04:21pm |
re: #216 Dark_Falcon
fixed. The pottery is impressive, the tweeted reply was some guy being a jerk.
And here I was gonna make a snide remark about you updinging a snide remark about Brewer after sticking up for Palin. Good for you for being consistent (which is not always a good thing...).
By the way, I made a snide remark about Brewer's looks once that I regret. What I like about her is that she apparently doesn't go in for plastic surgery and other futile battles against age. I prefer the natural look, even when it all goes to hell. She does dye her hair, though.
And she's a horrible human being.
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Charles Johnson Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:05:09pm |
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darthstar Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:05:38pm |
Funny...I always figured Mitt rode side-saddle.
GOOD JOB PEASANTS......WE KNEW YOU WOULD BOW TO US ROMNEYS twitter.com/JeffersonObama... twitter.com/JeffersonObama...— Jeff Gauvin (@JeffersonObama) October 9, 2012
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darthstar Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:07:28pm |
re: #225 darthstar
Funny...I always figured Mitt rode side-saddle.
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That's gotta be either stuffed horse or photoshop, as its mane is flowing as it appears to be at a full gallop, and Mitt's sitting still as a wax figure.
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Charles Johnson Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:10:16pm |
Ah ha! There we go. It's not the most elegant solution, but I just set a timed routine if the comment contains an embedded tweet. It waits for a second, then re-centers the dialog vertically, so you'll see it jump up to the center spot after the tweet is expanded.
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Charles Johnson Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:10:33pm |
And of course, you have to reload the page to see this new effect.
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darthstar Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:10:36pm |
Romney, still searching for a number that sounds reasonable, throws another random figure out to see if people buy it.
the 17k bucket just got much bigger on CNN... now 25-50k #hmmm #romney— Ed Schultz (@edshow) October 9, 2012
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darthstar Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:11:42pm |
re: #229 Charles Johnson
And of course, you have to reload the page to see this new effect.
And it works.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:12:16pm |
re: #227 darthstar
That's gotta be either stuffed horse or photoshop, as its mane is flowing as it appears to be at a full gallop, and Mitt's sitting still as a wax figure.
It might be a hostile photoshop as well. Do you know the photo's origin?
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danarchy Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:12:27pm |
re: #230 darthstar
Romney, still searching for a number that sounds reasonable, throws another random figure out to see if people buy it.
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I think he used the 25-50k during the debate as well
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darthstar Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:13:38pm |
Heh...saw this tweet and decided to stream CNN (about a two minute delay on sirius) and sure enough, that's almost exactly what Mitt says.
Wolf: will that add up to $5T?Mitt: what $5T? #mythromney— Ed Schultz (@edshow) October 9, 2012
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Charles Johnson Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:13:53pm |
re: #225 darthstar
Funny...I always figured Mitt rode side-saddle.
[Embedded content]
This is a good example of the new vertical centering code - click the comment number inside this comment. (#225).
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Romantic Heretic Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:14:45pm |
re: #212 Gus
Welch can't take the heat: I quit
By Stephen Gandel, senior editor October 9, 2012: 12:43 PM ET
The former top GE executive says he will no longer write for Fortune following coverage of his jobs conspiracy tweet.
I remember angering a Welch groupie once. She loved that, or so she claimed, he'd fire 10% of his workforce every year. "It was good to get rid of the deadwood."
"Soviet management methods don't work very well," I told her. "They would often do much the same, except they had a different method of firing people."
She really didn't like that comparison.
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darthstar Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:14:47pm |
Wolf now fellating Romney over his debate performance.
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wrenchwench Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:14:59pm |
"@actuallynph: Made it to the Balloon Fiesta!Amazing! I love New Mexico! twitter.com/ActuallyNPH/st..." makes me miss ABQ! Bring back green chili!— Jesse Tyler Ferguson (@jessetyler) October 7, 2012
Worked perfectly!
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Charles Johnson Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:15:05pm |
If it happens to take more than a second for Twitter to do its embedded tweet thing, you're out of luck.
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danarchy Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:15:15pm |
re: #227 darthstar
That's gotta be either stuffed horse or photoshop, as its mane is flowing as it appears to be at a full gallop, and Mitt's sitting still as a wax figure.
Looks kinda like the mane is cut short and is just sticking straight up.
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Targetpractice Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:15:56pm |
re: #237 darthstar
Wolf now fellating Romney over his debate performance.
Thought that was illegal on live TV?
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darthstar Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:17:17pm |
re: #241 Targetpractice
Thought that was illegal on live TV?
Wolf: Everyone agrees you won the first debate. Was Bob Portman a more formidable opponent in your practice sessions than President Obama was...or something to that effect.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:17:43pm |
re: #223 wrenchwench
And here I was gonna make a snide remark about you updinging a snide remark about Brewer after sticking up for Palin. Good for you for being consistent (which is not always a good thing...).
By the way, I made a snide remark about Brewer's looks once that I regret. What I like about her is that she apparently doesn't go in for plastic surgery and other futile battles against age. I prefer the natural look, even when it all goes to hell. She does dye her hair, though.
And she's a horrible human being.
I'm fine with people going after a political figure for their views and politics. But flinging ugly personal stuff like the stuff we reviewed that was aimed at Palin and Brewer is just being insulting. It's being nasty to be nasty.
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wrenchwench Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:18:14pm |
re: #240 danarchy
Looks kinda like the mane is cut short and is just sticking straight up.
But what about the horse?
/
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darthstar Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:19:08pm |
"Words were that came out were not what I meant." -Romney on his 47% remark on CNN referring to himself in third person #wordsalad— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) October 9, 2012
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The Mongoose Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:19:15pm |
re: #236 Romantic Heretic
I remember angering a Welch groupie once. She loved that, or so she claimed, he'd fire 10% of his workforce every year. "It was good to get rid of the deadwood."
"Soviet management methods don't work very well," I told her. "They would often do much the same, except they had a different method of firing people."
She really didn't like that comparison.
It's not uncommon for fast-paced companies to trim the lowest performing x% every year as a matter of policy. Most of the big consultancies do it, for example. Lots of people in those companies love the policy because it ensures they're not working with chronic underachievers.
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darthstar Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:20:16pm |
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Targetpractice Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:20:35pm |
re: #242 darthstar
Wolf: Everyone agrees you won the first debate. Was Bob Portman a more formidable opponent in your practice sessions than President Obama was...or something to that effect.
"So are you the God of this universe or just one of his temps?"
Yegods, Wolf, put a bib on.
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wrenchwench Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:21:22pm |
re: #243 Dark_Falcon
I'm fine with people going after a political figure for their views and politics. But flinging ugly personal stuff like the stuff we reviewed that was aimed at Palin and Brewer is just being insulting. It's being nasty to be nasty.
In theory, I agree. In practice, Brewer is such a bad human being, I tend to forget the theory.
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is.
--Jan L. A. Van de Snepschuet
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wrenchwench Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:24:36pm |
re: #247 darthstar
That one does that weird thing where, when you close the image, you end up near the top of the page, or around comment #60 this time.
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Obdicut Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:25:35pm |
re: #246 The Mongoose
It's a really stupid idea for a large number of reasons. Chief among those reasons is the difficult of measuring performance. With something reasonably bullshit like a consultancy it might work, but not at any company trying to actually do something. But there's lots of other reasons too. Someone might get stuck in that lowest x% due to the failures of others, and you wind up throwing them out. Other people may coast by on the success of others. Unless you've got absolutely individual workers competing in some level playing field, it's a crap idea.
And people who really love the idea probably are the ones who know how to game the system.
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:25:53pm |
re: #250 wrenchwench
That one does that weird thing where, when you close the image, you end up near the top of the page, or around comment #60 this time.
Yikes. Almost crashed FF and now that window is all darked out.
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Reverend Mother Ramallo Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:26:26pm |
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:27:15pm |
CNN is literally analyzing the way Romney answered questions rather than anything he actually said. #journalism— Jesse Taylor (@jesseltaylor) October 9, 2012
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:27:27pm |
re: #250 wrenchwench
That one does that weird thing where, when you close the image, you end up near the top of the page, or around comment #60 this time.
I wonder if LGF is recentering you on the entire web-page when you return from clicking the picture - which with a long pile of comments will push you back up into the middle of the comment stream.
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wrenchwench Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:28:29pm |
re: #255 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste
I wonder if LGF is recentering you on the entire web-page when you return from clicking the picture - which with a long pile of comments will push you back up into the middle of the comment stream.
It happened this morning, too.
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wrenchwench Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:29:00pm |
re: #253 Reverend Mother Ramallo
"That's not how they made them in France."
-Mitt Romney
"Did you get these at 7-11?"
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:29:19pm |
re: #256 wrenchwench
It happened this morning, too.
It's been doing it to be on Firefox (Home and Work) since at least sometime yesterday I think.
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wrenchwench Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:31:32pm |
PIC: You Don't See This Everyday!"Cow Crash?""Road Kill?" #BalloonFiesta twitter.com/kylekimbrell/s...— Kyle Kimbrell (@kylekimbrell) October 9, 2012
Later:
This one did it in the Preview window.
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Targetpractice Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:31:40pm |
re: #259 Gus
I'd call the man a sell-out, but that would presume he's ever held a position for longer than was politically convenient.
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jaunte Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:31:51pm |
re: #184 wrenchwench
[Embedded content]
"Aren't you glad to see me? I'm going to eat some of your food now without being invited, and move on."
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Charles Johnson Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:33:38pm |
re: #250 wrenchwench
That one does that weird thing where, when you close the image, you end up near the top of the page, or around comment #60 this time.
OK, try reloading and see if it's fixed now...
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engineer cat Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:34:26pm |
re: #246 The Mongoose
It's not uncommon for fast-paced companies to trim the lowest performing x% every year as a matter of policy. Most of the big consultancies do it, for example. Lots of people in those companies love the policy because it ensures they're not working with chronic underachievers.
it's not uncommon for workers who have the luxury of choice, like technical workers, to try to detect companies like this and avoid applying for jobs there. there's a website called 'glassdoor' that helps a lot with this...
wise companies that don't want to waste money are more concerned about careful hiring, fitting the employee to the job, and training. hiring and firing are expensive, so unless the company has a lot of extra money to burn, it behooves the managers to weigh the cost/benefit for any firing
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jaunte Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:34:32pm |
re: #259 Gus
"I hope to appoint justices for the Supreme Court that will follow the law and the constitution," he said at the time on NBC's "Meet the Press." "And it would be my preference that they reverse Roe V. Wade and therefore they return to the people and their elected representatives the decisions with regards to this important issue."
He'll just appoint some judges to reverse Roe v. Wade for him.
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erik_t Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:35:26pm |
re: #261 Targetpractice
I'd call the man a sell-out, but that would presume he's ever held a position for longer than was politically convenient.
I think it's under-appreciated that the most callously insider-dirtbag-political campaign in memory is being run by the two candidates who most stridently insist that everything even tangentially related to government is bad and wrong and wrongbad and they're just a couple of decent and honest businessmen.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:36:29pm |
re: #263 Charles Johnson
OK, try reloading and see if it's fixed now...
Nope. Clicked on picture at Comment #247 and it dropped me back to Comment #106 or so.
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:36:40pm |
re: #263 Charles Johnson
OK, try reloading and see if it's fixed now...
Mine just scrolled when I viewed that pic.
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jaunte Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:36:43pm |
“There’s no legislation with regards to abortion that I’m familiar with* that would become part of my agenda**,”*fine print 1
**fine print 2
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erik_t Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:36:53pm |
re: #246 The Mongoose
It's not uncommon for fast-paced companies to trim the lowest performing x% every year as a matter of policy. Most of the big consultancies do it, for example. Lots of people in those companies love the policy because it ensures they're not working with chronic underachievers.
I wonder if they also trim the lowest-performing x% of management staff hahahaha no I don't
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:37:23pm |
re: #267 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste
Nope. Clicked on picture at Comment #247 and it dropped me back to Comment #106 or so.
I ended up at 190.
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Obdicut Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:37:25pm |
re: #259 Gus
“There’s no legislation with regards to abortion that I’m familiar with that would become part of my agenda,” the Republican presidential nominee told The Des Moines Register in an interview.
And then there's this:
Following is Governor Mitt Romney's message informing the Legislature that he vetoed the emergency contraception bill.
"To the Honorable Senate and House of Representatives:
"... To those who believe that life begins at conception, the morning-after pill can destroy the human life that was created at the moment of fertilization.
"Furthermore, this legislation would make the morning-after pill available to young girls without any restrictions on age... this bill undermines the state's parental consent laws and represents a departure from the public consensus that minor children should not act without parental involvement in these matters."
And:
We should overturn Roe v. Wade and return these issues to the states,"I would welcome a circumstance where there was such a consensus in this country where we said we don't want to have abortions in this country at all. Period. That would be wonderful. I'd be delighted to sign that bill, but that's not where we are. That's not where America is today. Where America is today is ready to overturn Roe v. Wade and return to the states that authority. But if the Congress got there, we had that kind of consensus in the country, terrific.
So he vetoed a bill to expand contraception solely because it would terminate embryos extremely close to conception-- in other words, far before the 'viability' test of Roe vs. Wade, and he wants Roe vs Wade overturned, and, while he then says he wants it returned to the states, he wants eventually all abortion to be banned.
He's using the weasel tactic here of talking about not knowing of any specific legislation-- who gives a shit.
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:38:42pm |
re: #272 Sheeplord
And then there's this:
And:
So he vetoed a bill to expand contraception solely because it would terminate embryos extremely close to conception-- in other words, far before the 'viability' test of Roe vs. Wade, and he wants Roe vs Wade overturned, and, while he then says he wants it returned to the states, he wants eventually all abortion to be banned.
He's using the weasel tactic here of talking about not knowing of any specific legislation-- who gives a shit.
Mitt Romney Abortion Stance Changes, As Candidate Says He Won't Push To Restrict Access
Mostly True -- Politifact
//
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engineer cat Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:39:27pm |
re: #270 erik_t
I wonder if they also trim the lowest-performing x% of management staff hahahaha no I don't
'individual contributors' (that is, non-managers, also known as 'munchkins', like me) are fired quickly with a few extra months compensation as part of the deal
managers are fired by being 'promoted' to useless positions on the understanding that they will take the hint and get another position within a year or so
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:39:55pm |
re: #274 jaunte
"True for today as far as you can throw him"
I will gladly allow you to have an abortion but only on Tuesdays.
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MittDoesNotCompute Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:40:04pm |
re: #72 moderatelyradicalliberal
Sam should pay him a visit.
"You called me an Uncle Tome? Well allow me to retort."
I'd pay money to see Jackson give Terry a version of the "sermon" he gave in the beginning of Pulp Fiction...
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jaunte Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:42:25pm |
"Women are frequently asking about the massive amount of debt we’re passing on to the next generation," he told the Register.
"Women are frequently talking about whatever I choose to imagine them talking about."
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darthstar Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:42:44pm |
Romney to CNN re: 47% remarks: "It's always perilous for a candidate to talk about the mathematics." These are human beings, not numbers!— Ed Schultz (@edshow) October 9, 2012
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JamesWI Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:43:15pm |
If Romney's "tax cut" were truly "revenue neutral"....what exactly is the point? The rich aren't going to pay any less, the middle class won't be paying any more, everyone will be paying the same amount.....what's the fucking point?
Oh, that's right. It's just bullshit. Gotcha. It's strange that no one in the media can perform that level of analysis.
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jaunte Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:44:08pm |
The Big Bird thing: I get it. You think it's silly. But it's one of the only ACTUAL details Romney has outlined, THAT what's silly.
— Drew Tipson (@dtipson) October 9, 2012
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allegro Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:44:59pm |
re: #279 jaunte
"Women are frequently asking about the massive amount of debt we’re passing on to the next generation," he told the Register.
"Women are frequently talking about whatever I choose to imagine them talking about."
That one got my eyeballs rolling too. Um, no we actually aren't talking about that at all. Mostly we are are seeing statements like that and asking "the fuck?"
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engineer cat Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:47:40pm |
re: #281 JamesWI
If Romney's "tax cut" were truly "revenue neutral"....what exactly is the point? The rich aren't going to pay any less, the middle class won't be paying any more, everyone will be paying the same amount.....what's the fucking point?
Oh, that's right. It's just bullshit. Gotcha. It's strange that no one in the media can perform that level of analysis.
i was wondering that myself, but romney has covered himself in so many layers of forcefully asserted bullshit i'm afraid nobody is ever gonna dig deep enough to get to that particular question
goddammit obama ought to be able to stand up at the debate and tell romney that it's a wonder that anybody can be such an incredible lying bastard and not burn in hell on the spot
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engineer cat Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:48:38pm |
re: #279 jaunte
"Women are frequently asking about the massive amount of debt we’re passing on to the next generation," he told the Register.
"Women are frequently talking about whatever I choose to imagine them talking about."
it's too bad for romney that the country he would have to govern is not the same as the one he's running in
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:48:48pm |
Mitt Romney Sings Different Tune On Middle East With Key Donors bit.ly/Q8Vc67— DenisCampbell (@UKProgressive) October 9, 2012
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MittDoesNotCompute Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:49:57pm |
re: #170 darthstar
She reads all of 'em. Enquirer, News of the World, People, all the fancy papers and magazines.
The "hot sheets", as K in MiB put them.
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erik_t Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:50:10pm |
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:50:20pm |
Someone please inform pro-life groups that Romney won't restrict a woman's right to choose. At least for today. #p2 #tlot #Abortion— Gus (@Gus_802) October 9, 2012
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JamesWI Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:50:50pm |
@mittromney says we're paying too much in taxes. But he says his plan won't actually cut revenue So wouldn't we still be paying too much?
— James C (@JCBadger34) October 9, 2012
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Charles Johnson Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:51:14pm |
re: #268 Gus
OK, that's a weird one. Seems to be a problem only in the Windows version of Firefox -- it's fine in all Mac browsers, and also fine in Windows with IE9 or Chrome.
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:51:53pm |
re: #292 Charles Johnson
OK, that's a weird one. Seems to be a problem only in the Windows version of Firefox -- it's fine in all Mac browsers, and also fine in Windows with IE9 or Chrome.
FF 16.0
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Reverend Mother Ramallo Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:52:48pm |
re: #279 jaunte
"Women are frequently asking about the massive amount of debt we’re passing on to the next generation," he told the Register.
"Women are frequently talking about whatever I choose to imagine them talking about."
Bull.
The only debt most people are worried about is their own.
Like "I just spent $400 on three bags of groceries, now how the fuck am I gonna pay my water bill?"
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Killgore Trout Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:52:50pm |
Oh Noes! Get ready to outrage outrageously!
Politifact: Says Mitt Romney plans to "fire" Big Bird.
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jaunte Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:52:53pm |
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:53:49pm |
re: #295 Killgore Trout
Oh Noes! Get ready to outrage outrageously!
Politifact: Says Mitt Romney plans to "fire" Big Bird.
Oh jeez. That's stupid.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:54:21pm |
re: #294 Reverend Mother Ramallo
Bull.
The only debt most people are worried about is their own.
Like "I just spent $400 on three bags of groceries, now how the fuck am I gonna pay my water bill?"
What was in those three bags of groceries?
How big were they?
I take home something like 6 of the reusables, and spend $100-$150, depending on whether or not I bought expensive things like contact solution.
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JamesWI Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:56:09pm |
re: #295 Killgore Trout
Oh Noes! Get ready to outrage outrageously!
Politifact: Says Mitt Romney plans to "fire" Big Bird.
So, they give a "Pants on Fire" to "Romney is going to fire Big Bird"....because really, he just wants to cut all funding to PBS, which doesn't technically fire anyone...until they realize they can't afford to pay them.
But if Obama says Romney is going to cut $5 trillion in taxes.....which Romney said he would do only about 1,000 times on the campaign trail......it's only "Half true" or "mostly true."
And you wonder why we think Politifact is a joke.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:56:12pm |
re: #293 Gus
FF 16.0
That would partially explain it. I updated something over the weekend and FF sneaked in and updated itself. I have been using an "out of date" version for quite a while to get away from bloat effects.
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erik_t Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:57:19pm |
re: #282 jaunte
@dtipson The Big Bird thing: I get it. You think it's silly. But it's one of the only ACTUAL details Romney has outlined, THAT what's silly.
re: #295 Killgore Trout
Oh Noes! Get ready to outrage outrageously!
Politifact: Says Mitt Romney plans to "fire" Big Bird.
One of these is Very Serious Journalism. One of these is some random guy on Twitter.
Let's see if we can figure out which is which.
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wrenchwench Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:57:23pm |
re: #292 Charles Johnson
OK, that's a weird one. Seems to be a problem only in the Windows version of Firefox -- it's fine in all Mac browsers, and also fine in Windows with IE9 or Chrome.
Still doing it here too. To comment #54 now.
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Obdicut Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:57:49pm |
re: #297 Gus
Oh jeez. That's stupid.
What's really funny is that Politifact will parse something like that, but not point out the lie that Romney tells every time he mentions borrowing money from China.
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jaunte Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:59:47pm |
Here's a political fact:
"romney reversed his position"
About 17,800 results.
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Reverend Mother Ramallo Tue, Oct 9, 2012 3:59:56pm |
re: #298 Mostly sane, most of the time.
What was in those three bags of groceries?
How big were they?
I take home something like 6 of the reusables, and spend $100-$150, depending on whether or not I bought expensive things like contact solution.
Ummm,
I like cheese.
Seriously though, one night I ran out to the 24 hour grocery store, and spent $70 on breakfast food. Three bags. I kept checking for a mistake, and the only thing I could find was that the store charges way too much.
I never went back.
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:00:28pm |
re: #304 jaunte
Here's a political fact:
"romney reversed his position"
About 17,800 results.
Pants on fire.
-- Politifact
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Killgore Trout Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:01:24pm |
re: #297 Gus
Oh jeez. That's stupid.
Kind of, not sure yet. Here's their closing....
Our Ruling
In its latest attempt to portray Romney as heartless, the Obama campaign is making a serious allegation that he wants to put one of America's most beloved children's characters in the unemployment line.
Romney has been clear that his plan for PBS is not specific to Big Bird (nor to Jim Lehrer for that matter). He simply wants to end federal subsidies.
It's a ridiculous stretch to equate that with firing the 8-foot-2 yellow bird. Just as Democrats have scared senior citizens about losing Medicare, they are now scaring preschoolers about losing Big Bird. Pants on Fire!
I'm on the fence about this one. Politifact also rated Obama's sarcastic comment about Mitt considering Trump a "small business" as false. It was clear that Obama was being snarky. However, we see a lot of stuff like "you didn't build that", Mitt doesn't understand airplane windows, "bump in the road", Mit doesn;t think the troops are important etc that's clearly used by partisans as an exaggeration to make a point. But the problem is that a lot of people take these things literally so I guess I can see Politifact's tactic as treating these things as serious claims. It does seem humorless but I think that's the strategy,
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allegro Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:01:32pm |
I decided to finally get the renovations done to my abode that I've been wanting to do for several years. Bedroom is gutted of all the built-ins (bed included). Dinette with the banquette seats, gone. Stuff is piled high everywhere. Can't see my kitchen counter or sink. The bed of my truck is piled almost higher than the cab with the above built-ins and dinette, ready to take to the big trash location tomorrow (it was closed today).
The sofa will be our bed for the next few nights. Must find it. I know it was there this morning. Wondering now why I ever thought this was a great idea.
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:02:13pm |
Romney said he wants to fire Big Bird but really he can't fire Big Bird so Romney didn't mean to say he was going to fire Big Bird.
-- Politifact
Derp.
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:02:51pm |
I'm not saying I want to fire Big Bird but I want to fire Big Bird.
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erik_t Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:05:33pm |
re: #311 Gus
Romney said he wants to fire Big Bird but really he can't fire Big Bird so Romney didn't mean to say he was going to fire Big Bird.
-- PolitifactDerp.
"It's not that I want to fire Big Bird, it's just that... I don't really want him working here...anymore"
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Killgore Trout Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:05:53pm |
re: #309 Killgore Trout
...and it is a little creepy to use a beloved children's character like this. It's a little cheap.
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freetoken Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:06:32pm |
Waiting for Politifact to weigh in on this one:
Anderson Cooper Tells Bristol Palin to 'Get a Job, Stop Being on TV'
At least Cooper didn't tell Big Bird to get a job and stop being on TV.
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freetoken Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:07:00pm |
re: #314 Killgore Trout
Wingnuts have targeted Sesame Street for many, many years.
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erik_t Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:07:36pm |
re: #314 Killgore Trout
...and it is a little creepy to use a beloved children's character like this. It's a little cheap.
Well who, precisely, the fuck brought it up? This wasn't Romney saying he wants to defund PBS and Obama dredging up the most emotionally charged aspect of PBS. Romney opened his own goddamned mouth.
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:07:44pm |
re: #314 Killgore Trout
...and it is a little creepy to use a beloved children's character like this. It's a little cheap.
By whom? It was Romney that used "a beloved children's character like this" in front of how many millions? 60 million or 90 million?
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Reverend Mother Ramallo Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:07:50pm |
re: #313 erik_t
"It's not that I want to fire Big Bird, it's just that... I don't really want him working here...anymore"
Okay, Stewie.
:-)
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Killgore Trout Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:09:27pm |
re: #317 freetoken
Wingnuts have targeted Sesame Street for many, many years.
I strongly disagree with their talk of defunding public broadcasting.
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:09:50pm |
Do I have to link to all the right-wing derangement about Sesame Street here again? Which obviously includes Big Bird. No wait. They're just criticizing Sesame Street and not Big Bird. Or something.
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jaunte Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:09:55pm |
The insignificant PBS subsidy is the perfect target for a political bully.
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engineer cat Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:10:36pm |
In Dramatic Religious Phenomenon: Republicans Suddenly Start Believing In Polls
altered state of consciousness only expected to persist as long as faintly glowing vision of republican dominance lasts
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freetoken Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:11:04pm |
re: #321 Killgore Trout
I strongly disagree with their talk of defunding public broadcasting.
Yes, they hate public radio, public tv, etc.
But in specifics, Sesame Street has been targeted .
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JamesWI Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:11:31pm |
re: #314 Killgore Trout
...and it is a little creepy to use a beloved children's character like this. It's a little cheap.
You mean like how the wingnuts and Fox News have attacked Sesame Street for YEARS, accusing them of indoctrinating America's youth with communism and the gay agenda, because it teaches them about sharing and not hating people based on their sexual preference?
But you're so concerned about liberals using Sesame Street. So very, very concerned.
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alpuz Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:11:49pm |
"It's a ridiculous stretch to equate that with firing the 8-foot-2 yellow bird. Just as Democrats have scared senior citizens about losing Medicare, they are now scaring preschoolers about losing Big Bird. Pants on Fire!"
fuckin' a, really? I watched a boatload of Romney ads during the Packer game on Sunday that said Obama was going after peoples Medicare.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:12:15pm |
re: #317 freetoken
Wingnuts have targeted Sesame Street for many, many years.
Of course. Sesame Street treated minorities, children, and the elderly as important parts of the local community who should be treated as equals.
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freetoken Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:13:19pm |
Chief justice candidate Roy Moore hits on hot-button issues
Republican chief justice candidate Roy Moore said America is experiencing moral decay because some leaders embrace abortion, same-sex marriage and other issues damaging to families.
"We're suffering economic and politically because we've suffered moral decay in the country," he said Tuesday.
Moore was one of the speakers at a rally on the Capitol steps organized by several ministers concerned about President Barack Obama's views on same-sex marriage and abortion.
One of the organizers, Gil Melendez, director of the Montgomery House of Prayer, said the event was not about Alabama being a red state or blue state. "We're asking for a God state," he said.
[...]
Technically, isn't a "God state" called a "Theocracy"?
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Reverend Mother Ramallo Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:14:18pm |
re: #314 Killgore Trout
...and it is a little creepy to use a beloved children's character like this. It's a little cheap.
I think you're getting caught up in the minutia, and missing the point.
We have major fiscal issues to deal with in this country, so in order to serve up red meat to his supporters, Romney brings up not only PBS, but Big Bird--by name.
That was creepy.
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jaunte Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:15:30pm |
Yo, Mitt, Borrowing Money From China Is Good for America, Not Bad
"...China is an easy bogeyman for U.S. politicians, because it's an ocean away and it's still run by the Communist Party. But the economic threat posed by China is routinely exaggerated. Investors in China do hold about $1.2 trillion in U.S. government debt, but that's only about 7.3 percent of all U.S. debt, and 10.3 percent of debt held by the public. (Government agencies such as the Federal Reserve hold about $5 trillion of America's $16 trillion in total debt.) Japan holds nearly as much U.S. debt as China does, but nobody ever complains about Americans being in hock to the Japanese.
The size of America's national debt is itself a problem, because Washington depends on borrowed money for too much of its everyday expenditures. But that's the borrower's fault, not the lender's. "The whole thing is silly," says Boudreaux. "Blaming the Chinese lets the people creating the debt off the hook. And that's Congress."
Mitt knows all this, he's just a liar pandering to the ignorance of his base.
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alpuz Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:16:23pm |
I'm shaking my head here.. 'scaring preschoolers about losing Big Bird.'
Complete crap.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:16:40pm |
re: #330 Reverend Mother Ramallo
I think you're getting caught up in the minutia, and missing the point.
We have major fiscal issues to deal with in this country, so in order to serve up red meat to his supporters, Romney brings up not only PBS, but Big Bird--by name.
That was creepy.
I think it's a mistake for Obama's campaign to follow up his weak debate performance with this Big Bird stuff. It's silly and I'm not interested in it. If swing voters find it persuasive then fine, but I'm not impressed by it.
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Digital Display Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:16:47pm |
re: #321 Killgore Trout
I strongly disagree with their talk of defunding public broadcasting.
I do to. But with all the hand wringing PBS pulls in a third of a Billion dollars. Big bird makes 6 million a year.
They aren't going anywhere or being fired no matter what Mitt says.
Plus Big Bird..You could pull in 12 million over at the cartoon network.
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:16:52pm |
re: #331 Gus
Fox News - Elmo & Big Bird Are Too Liberal & Make Gay Boys Want To Be Prom Queens
[Embedded content]
Face palm.
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JamesWI Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:17:27pm |
re: #331 Gus
Fox News - Elmo & Big Bird Are Too Liberal & Make Gay Boys Want To Be Prom Queens
[Embedded content]
But I'm not concerned about that....I just think the liberals defending PBS and Sesame Street is so very concerning.
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Reverend Mother Ramallo Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:17:28pm |
I remember an episode of Phil Donahue from the 80's.
KKK mom, sheet and all, hated the idea of children of different races playing together, so she didn't allow her kids to watch Sesame Street.
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:18:43pm |
And people listen to shit like Hannity every waking hour of their day. No wonder they're so deranged.
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allegro Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:19:42pm |
re: #332 jaunte
Yo, Mitt, Borrowing Money From China Is Good for America, Not Bad
Mitt knows all this, he's just a liar pandering to the ignorance of his base.
They make it so easy for him. Did we see them question his reversals on his "severe conservative" so-called principles during the debate? Nope. Will they scream about his reversal (again) on abortion today? It is to laugh.
I wish I could be shocked by it. Alas, I have become too cynical and jaded to do anything but yawn at yet another day in Republican world.
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Reverend Mother Ramallo Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:21:16pm |
re: #334 Killgore Trout
I think it's a mistake for Obama's campaign to follow up his weak debate performance with this Big Bird stuff. It's silly and I'm not interested in it. If swing voters find it persuasive then fine, but I'm not impressed by it.
The first debate has passed.
They're getting ready for the second one.
Anyway, Big Bird is a symbol.
The argument is about principle.
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:22:38pm |
re: #339 Reverend Mother Ramallo
I remember an episode of Phil Donahue from the 80's.
KKK mom, sheet and all, hated the idea of children of different races playing together, so she didn't allow her kids to watch Sesame Street.
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Ghost of Tom Joad Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:23:30pm |
re: #341 Gus
And people listen to shit like Hannity every waking hour of their day. No wonder they're so deranged.
That guy talks like people would line up to suck him off to hear what he has to say. That creepy salesman vibe you'd need to be a successful peddler of a special 'pill' that would cure cancer, obesity, blindness, and erectile dysfunction. Then you realize he really does peddle bullshit all day, and it all fits in.
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darthstar Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:24:22pm |
re: #328 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste
Of course. Sesame Street treated minorities, children, and the elderly as important parts of the local community who should be treated as equals.
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FTFY
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Reverend Mother Ramallo Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:24:26pm |
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:24:27pm |
re: #345 Ghost of Tom Joad
That guy talks like people would line up to suck him off to hear what he has to say. That creepy salesman vibe you'd need to be a successful peddler of a special 'pill' that would cure cancer, obesity, blindness, and erectile dysfunction. Then you realize he really does peddle bullshit all day, and it all fits in.
Yeah but Rachel Maddow!
//
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JamesWI Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:28:37pm |
Obama's stock on Intrade took a hit earlier today, even dropping below 60% for the first time in a long time. But it looks like it's stabilizing now, as it's been over 62% for the last hour+. So today's polls have cost him about 1.5%.
Sounds about right. Whiny liberals and gloating conservatives apparently don't get the concept of a "bounce."
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engineer cat Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:29:01pm |
re: #331 Gus
Fox News - Elmo & Big Bird Are Too Liberal & Make Gay Boys Want To Be Prom Queens
[Embedded content]
george w beat em to it by being a cheerleader in kollij and that are a true fact
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Ghost of Tom Joad Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:31:00pm |
re: #348 Gus
Yeah but Rachel Maddow!
//
I haven't watched much of her, but when I hear her talk about some of the crazy things going on, I get the feel that she sees some of the deranged things in the world as so unbelievable that it's funny to her. Then she talks really fast with a shit-eating smile on her face because if she doesn't get it out fast enough she'll just start laughing uncontrollably at how awful some of the things she talks about are.
She's smart and very witty, but I can see how her presentation doesn't sit well with some folks. Just my .02.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:31:39pm |
re: #351 engineer cat
george w beat em to it by being a cheerleader in kollij and that are a true fact
I worked with a guy who was a cheerleader for FSU. I never brought THAT up.
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blueraven Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:32:43pm |
re: #334 Killgore Trout
I think it's a mistake for Obama's campaign to follow up his weak debate performance with this Big Bird stuff. It's silly and I'm not interested in it. If swing voters find it persuasive then fine, but I'm not impressed by it.
If Romney is putting it out there as an example of his deficit reduction plan, that's silly too. And its fair game to point out how lame it is.
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:35:34pm |
In my new book I talk about the horrific popuri of legislation that Obama and the UN are attempting to pass. Order it! ow.ly/el9Z0— Dick Morris (@DickMorrisTweet) October 9, 2012
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Reverend Mother Ramallo Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:36:21pm |
I think another factor in the whole Big Bird thing is to goad Wingers into saying crazy stuff.
I think it's working.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:36:51pm |
re: #355 Gus
The complete idiot's guide to toe sucking?
/half. No, wait. None.
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JamesWI Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:37:13pm |
I saw Nate Silver a few weeks ago talking about how someone should write a thesis explaining the difference between the various election markets.
Intrade hovering around 62% for Obama, Betfair around 68%.
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wrenchwench Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:37:28pm |
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erik_t Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:38:27pm |
OMG UN ELEVENTY!!!!1
Some bogeymen never change.
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:39:12pm |
@alecmacgillis @dickmorristweet Popuri? You mean like "A pink-haired, red-eyed girl from the Harvest Moon series." urbandictionary.com/define.php?ter...— Gus (@Gus_802) October 9, 2012
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Ghost of Tom Joad Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:39:12pm |
re: #334 Killgore Trout
I think it's a mistake for Obama's campaign to follow up his weak debate performance with this Big Bird stuff. It's silly and I'm not interested in it. If swing voters find it persuasive then fine, but I'm not impressed by it.
You're either totally dishonest or just have a total inability to see things for what they represent.
If Team Obama had put out an add saying "When asked about trying to reduce the deficit, candidate Romney said one his first cuts would be PBS funding from the federal budget. PBS is .0001% (or whatever it is, I'm not digging it up) and provides quality education to children in America. Romney, wrong on the budget, wrong on education, wrong for America."
If that had been the advertisement, would you be happy?
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sattv4u2 Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:40:46pm |
re: #353 Cannadian Club Akbar
I worked with a guy who was a cheerleader for FSU. I never brought THAT up.
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What was it the two of you were working with!?!?
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Mentis Fugit Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:40:56pm |
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Ghost of Tom Joad Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:41:19pm |
re: #362 Gus
[Embedded content]
Do you know off-hand what legislation he's talking about Gus? I know from family members (NRA types, I'll stop there) that there's something they got their short and curlies in a knot about the UN trying to ban guns or some such other lunacy.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:41:50pm |
I clicked on #364 and my screen jumped to comments in the 80 range. Odd.
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:41:53pm |
re: #367 Ghost of Tom Joad
Do you know off-hand what legislation he's talking about Gus? I know from family members (NRA types, I'll stop there) that there's something they got their short and curlies in a knot about the UN trying to ban guns or some such other lunacy.
The UN small arms treaty.
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blueraven Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:43:59pm |
How is Mitt Romney going to pay for tax his cuts?
1. Either he will back off from his campaign promise and not cut taxes 20%
2. or He will proceed & blow a hole in the deficit
3. or He will raise taxes by cutting loopholes on things like mortgage deductions, which will raise taxes on the middle class.
I dont see a 4th way.
He wont say how he is going to do it.
He lied about pre-existing condition coverage.
Big Bird was the only thing he said that anyone can point to as a specific proposal.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:44:16pm |
re: #370 Gus
The UN small arms treaty.
That is intended to deal with Popeye, not Popery, though.
/ ;)
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Ghost of Tom Joad Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:44:20pm |
re: #368 Gus
Ack. The images are still resulting in major scrollage.
Causes my page to freeze as well, forcing a reload. (latest Firefox)
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:44:36pm |
‘These People Make Me Sick’
By ANDREW ROSENTHAL
Lawrence Wilkerson, who should know an irresponsible neo-con when he sees, dished out heavy criticism of Mitt Romney’s foreign policy team yesterday. He said, “These people make me sick.”
Mr. Wilkerson, a retired Army colonel who served as chief of staff to Secretary of State Colin Powell–i.e. under President George W. Bush–was particularly critical of John Bolton, the arch hawk who rather famously trashed the United Nations before Mr. Bush made him U.N. Ambassador.
“The man scares me to death,” Mr. Wilkerson said. “He would defeat all the enemies in America and the world—and believe me they’re plentiful—and he’d do it with everyone else’s blood. John is like Dick Cheney, never served a day in his life and wouldn’t serve a day in his life.”
I’m not so eager to criticize people for not having served in the military – since I never did and since the whole point of the American approach to the military is that it’s run by civilians. But I share Mr. Wilkerson’s concerns about Mr. Bolton and the rest of the Romney foreign policy advisory team...
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:46:03pm |
re: #373 Ghost of Tom Joad
Causes my page to freeze as well, forcing a reload. (latest Firefox)
FF 16?
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blueraven Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:47:15pm |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:47:31pm |
re: #365 sattv4u2
What was it the two of you were working with!?!?
This guy was an asshole. He lived in Orlando and thought he got to leave his house at 4 for a four o'clock shift. 2 hours late. Little douche.
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Ghost of Tom Joad Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:47:33pm |
re: #375 Cannadian Club Akbar
No, 15 at home, 14 something at work. Updating now, didn't know a new one was out.
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JamesWI Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:48:17pm |
That flip-flop lasted almost an hour!
. @andreamsaul on Romney's abortion comment to DMR: Rom "wld of course support legislation aimed at providing greater protections for life"
— Katrina Trinko (@KatrinaTrinko) October 9, 2012
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:48:55pm |
re: #378 Ghost of Tom Joad
No, 15 at home, 14 something at work. Updating now, didn't know a new one was out.
I think I'm running 15. I get updates through AOL. (sorry, have had them since 1997)
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Amory Blaine Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:49:56pm |
Wait around 5 minutes, we'll be up to FF18
/kinda
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:51:09pm |
re: #380 Cannadian Club Akbar
I think I'm running 15. I get updates through AOL. (sorry, have had them since 1997)
FF15 here.
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Ghost of Tom Joad Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:51:19pm |
re: #380 Cannadian Club Akbar
Does the same thing with 16. Just updated.
Edit: should downding your ass for AOL. /shivers
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:52:24pm |
re: #384 Ghost of Tom Joad
Does the same thing with 16. Just updated.
FF had a serious issue about a year ago. They caught all kinds of shit. It just works best for me.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:53:06pm |
re: #383 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste
FF15 here.
I'm still very pleased with my PONG operating system!
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Interesting Times Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:53:41pm |
ABC/WaPo poll: Romney favs are up, but still underwater. No cand. w/ higher unfavs than favs in Sept/Oct has won WH. abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...— amy walter (@amyewalter) October 9, 2012
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:53:54pm |
re: #386 sattv4u2
I'm still very pleased with my PONG operating system!
You should upgrade to Space Invaders.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:55:34pm |
re: #386 sattv4u2
I'm still very pleased with my PONG operating system!
I'm not saying you're old but what did Jesus write in your yearbook?
/
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:55:47pm |
Here's video of Romney saying all the ways he will affect abortion policy as president youtu.be/PqD1fjSp4Sc— Sam Stein (@samsteinhp) October 9, 2012
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:56:11pm |
re: #388 Cannadian Club Akbar
You should upgrade to Space Invaders.
I was a fan of Battlezone personally. But as an OS it's a bitch when trying to type comments while buzz bombs are weaving in. :p
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Ghost of Tom Joad Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:56:18pm |
re: #379 JamesWI
That flip-flop lasted almost an hour!
[Embedded content]
Can almost guarantee Romney is going to go hardline on 'right to life' right up until the next debate, and then BANG! he's going to veer so hard to pro-choice Obama wonder if Mitt is actually 2 different twins. Which would actually make sense. There's either Willard and Mitt, or there's 2 people in Mitt's head.
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goddamnedfrank Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:57:04pm |
re: #309 Killgore Trout
Kind of, not sure yet. Here's their closing....
I'm on the fence about this one. Politifact also rated Obama's sarcastic comment about Mitt considering Trump a "small business" as false.
They did so by not once considering Mitt's definition of a small business. They rated the claim purely on whether Trump would currently qualify for an SBA loan, which has nothing to do with Obama's claim. This is how Politifact creates "context," by dishonestly judging their own erroneous inference rather than the actual statement made.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:57:14pm |
re: #392 Ghost of Tom Joad
Can almost guarantee Romney is going to go hardline on 'right to life' right up until the next debate, and then BANG! he's going to veer so hard to pro-choice Obama wonder if Mitt is actually 2 different twins. Which would actually make sense. There's either Willard and Mitt, or there's 2 people in Mitt's head.
Flip and Floppier. The Giant Panderer twins.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:57:30pm |
re: #391 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste
I was a fan of Battlezone personally. But as an OS it's a bitch when trying to type comments while buzz bombs are weaving in. :p
Pfftt. Robotron. Fucking people all coming at me and stuff....
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:58:03pm |
re: #377 Cannadian Club Akbar
This guy was an asshole. He lived in Orlando and thought he got to leave his house at 4 for a four o'clock shift. 2 hours late. Little douche.
FSU, enough said.
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alpuz Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:58:29pm |
re: #390 Gus
Thanks for that. Bookmarked and soon to be shared.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:58:43pm |
re: #389 Cannadian Club Akbar
I'm not saying you're old but what did Jesus write in your yearbook?
/
"Lets go fishing this summer"
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:58:46pm |
.@mittromney scratched his head over recent Big Bird talk. Turns out, he's been targeting Big Bird since December abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...— Lis Smith (@Lis_Smith) October 9, 2012
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Ghost of Tom Joad Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:58:57pm |
re: #394 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste
Or, he's Gollum, and the Presidency is the precious.
And I'll stop there before I turn everybody in this charade into an LotR character.
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:59:13pm |
Beautiful: 15,000 - yes, 15,000! - turned up for President Obama (Ohio State University, Oct 9) dispatch.com/content/storie... twitter.com/TheObamaDiary/...— The Obama Diary (@TheObamaDiary) October 9, 2012
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Oct 9, 2012 4:59:38pm |
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Ghost of Tom Joad Tue, Oct 9, 2012 5:01:05pm |
re: #401 Gus
[Embedded content]
Wonder if the College President forced the students to be there or get kicked out. Perfect MBF for the coal miners at that Romney event.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Oct 9, 2012 5:03:48pm |
re: #403 Ghost of Tom Joad
Wonder if the College President forced the students to be there or get kicked out. Perfect MBF for the coal miners at that Romney event.
Well, if he did, word didn't get around too well
Ohio state has an enrollment of over 64,000
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alpuz Tue, Oct 9, 2012 5:05:00pm |
re: #399 Gus
Earlier in the day, Romney campaign spokesman Kevin Madden also railed against the president.
“Right now you’ve got 23 million American’s struggling to find work. You’ve got household incomes going down. You’ve got a federal deficit — federal debt that’s now over 16 trillion dollars,” Madden told reporters. “I just find it troubling that the president’s message — the president’s focus — 28 days from election day is Big Bird.”
Where have I heard read that before...
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wrenchwench Tue, Oct 9, 2012 5:05:28pm |
Sheriff Dever legally drunk at time of deadly crash
The Cochise County sheriff who lost control of his vehicle in northern Arizona and died was legally drunk at the time, an autopsy report shows.
Larry Dever’s blood-alcohol content was .29 — more than three times the state’s legal limit, the report released Monday indicates .
Dever had been driving along a gravel road near Williams on Sept. 18 to meet family members for a camping and hunting trip when his pickup rolled. His speed was marked at 62 mph, but the road doesn’t have a speed limit.
The autopsy report also showed that Dever’s seat belt wasn’t buckled, and authorities noted he had beer and liquor in his vehicle.
[...]
Goes to another county and breaks all the rules. It's no wonder the Phoenix New Times has a category called 'Another Stupid-Sheriff Story'.
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Charles Johnson Tue, Oct 9, 2012 5:05:42pm |
re: #334 Killgore Trout
I think it's a mistake for Obama's campaign to follow up his weak debate performance with this Big Bird stuff. It's silly and I'm not interested in it. If swing voters find it persuasive then fine, but I'm not impressed by it.
Since the debate there have been about 40 videos posted at YouTube by the Obama campaign. Exactly one of them deals with Big Bird, and it's intended to be funny.
But for some reason you want to pretend that Big Bird is the only thing the Obama campaign talks about.
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Ghost of Tom Joad Tue, Oct 9, 2012 5:08:18pm |
re: #404 sattv4u2
You see that thing in the sky over your head leaving the contrail behind it? It's not a plane, it was the joke.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Oct 9, 2012 5:08:49pm |
Terrible lag here
May BBL (like anyone gives a rats ass)
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 5:11:13pm |
Derp.
PSA: It's Jimi Hendrix, not Jimmy Hendrix. Jimi. KTHXBI— Gus (@Gus_802) October 10, 2012
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alpuz Tue, Oct 9, 2012 5:13:00pm |
Earlier in the day, Romney campaign spokesman Kevin Madden also railed against the president.
“Right now you’ve got 23 million American’s struggling to find work. You’ve got household incomes going down. You’ve got a federal deficit — federal debt that’s now over 16 trillion dollars,” Madden told reporters. “I just find it troubling that the president’s message — the president’s focus — 28 days from election day is Big Bird.”
So now 23 million Americans are 'struggling to find work', and are not just lazy, food stamp loving moochers, grifting the system? I'm feeling a bit perplexed.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Oct 9, 2012 5:14:22pm |
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wrenchwench Tue, Oct 9, 2012 5:14:26pm |
New Mexico Attorney General makes a statement:
(SANTA FE)---Recent reports of poll-challenger training in Sandoval County have prompted a full investigation by Attorney General Gary King who is simultaneously exploring available sanctions against those found guilty of voter suppression tactics.
“I will not tolerate voter suppression efforts by anyone, period,” says AG King. “We have received a number of complaints since last Friday that there seems to be a concerted effort afoot to discourage some New Mexicans from exercising their right to vote this November. My office is committed to helping ensure fair elections by working to put an immediate stop to such misinformation and publicly correcting what has already been disseminated.”
By definition, voter suppression is any attempt to influence elections by discouraging or actually preventing people from going to the polls. Last week a Sandoval County GOP official reportedly told trainees, among other false information, that they could ask voters to present identification in order to vote. New Mexico law does not require ID to vote.
“It’s against New Mexico law to check for ID,” New Mexico Congressman Steve Pearce told a Denver, Colorado reporter last week.
AG King is calling upon Governor Susana Martinez and NM Secretary of State Dianna Duran to join him in repudiating voter suppression tactics and to work together to ensure fair elections in New Mexico.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Tue, Oct 9, 2012 5:18:37pm |
re: #403 Ghost of Tom Joad
Wonder if the College President forced the students to be there or get kicked out. Perfect MBF for the coal miners at that Romney event.
Or that rich dude in Florida and his fascist email to his employees.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Tue, Oct 9, 2012 5:19:56pm |
re: #407 Charles Johnson
Since the debate there have been about 40 videos posted at YouTube by the Obama campaign. Exactly one of them deals with Big Bird, and it's intended to be funny.
But for some reason you want to pretend that Big Bird is the only thing the Obama campaign talks about.
He and the rest of the right wing.
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Ghost of Tom Joad Tue, Oct 9, 2012 5:21:58pm |
re: #415 Blackity Black Black!
Or that rich dude in Florida and his fascist email to his employees.
Yeah we discussed his douchiness a few threads back. What a tool.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Oct 9, 2012 5:22:37pm |
re: #408 Ghost of Tom Joad
You see that thing in the sky over your head leaving the contrail behind it? It's not a plane, it was the joke.
{sigh}
Really? Gee ,,,
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 5:22:45pm |
re: #417 Ghost of Tom Joad
Yeah we discussed his douchiness a few threads back. What a tool.
Image: david-siegel-jacqueline-siegel-queen-of-versailles-01-1920x1280.jpg
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 5:26:05pm |
Ed Schultz is on his emo BS... Obama bad, Biden good. Biden is the great white hope. His debate will save the ticket #GTFOH #EdShow— Dawn Nicole Martin (@dawnnicmar) October 10, 2012
Well looks like Ed Schultz is back in 2010 depress the base mode per the TL. Can't say I'm surprised.— Ken (@Kennymack1971) October 10, 2012
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Tue, Oct 9, 2012 5:28:13pm |
re: #420 Gus
Money never bought class.
Absolutely not. That house is a joke.
And timeshares? How many people are hurting financially because of that overpriced timeshare they are stuck with? (A person I know)
Vultures are vultures.
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 5:29:52pm |
re: #422 Blackity Black Black!
Absolutely not. That house is a joke.
And timeshares? How many people are hurting financially because of that overpriced timeshare they are stuck with? (A person I know)
Vultures are vultures.
I guess another way of saying it is that money never bought good taste.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Oct 9, 2012 5:30:19pm |
re: #420 Gus
Money never bought class.
"People who say money cant buy happiness don't know where to shop."
-Zsa Zsa
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Tue, Oct 9, 2012 5:31:24pm |
Wait, so I missed Mitt's flop on abortion?? What in the fuck did he say?
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Obdicut Tue, Oct 9, 2012 5:32:04pm |
re: #424 Cannadian Club Akbar
"People who say money cant buy happiness don't know where to shop."
-Zsa Zsa
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Ghost of Tom Joad Tue, Oct 9, 2012 5:32:26pm |
re: #425 Blackity Black Black!
Wait, so I missed Mitt's flop on abortion?? What in the fuck did he say?
Why bother worrying about it. By the time you figure out his new position, he'll be back at the old one.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Oct 9, 2012 5:33:23pm |
Clicking on a link still sends me to 300 comments ago.
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Ghost of Tom Joad Tue, Oct 9, 2012 5:35:24pm |
re: #428 Cannadian Club Akbar
Clicking on a link still sends me to 300 comments ago.
Best to just middle-click and open it in a new page.
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goddamnedfrank Tue, Oct 9, 2012 5:39:40pm |
re: #427 Ghost of Tom Joad
Why bother worrying about it. By the time you figure out his new position, he'll be back at the old one.
This time they may have set a new record.
The Romney campaign walked back the remark within two hours of the Register posting its story. Spokeswoman Andrea Saul told the National Review Online's Katrina Trinko that Romney "would of course support legislation aimed at providing greater protections for life."
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MittDoesNotCompute Tue, Oct 9, 2012 5:40:30pm |
re: #414 wrenchwench
New Mexico Attorney General makes a statement:
Since you live in NM, ww, and I've only visited several times, I'll defer to your read on NM politics. However, seeing that it's a Dem AG spearheading against voter suppression tactics that favor the GOP, the odds that Martinez is gonna roll with King on this seem to be slim to none, IMO.
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wrenchwench Tue, Oct 9, 2012 5:42:32pm |
This is even weirder. When I open a new front page of LGF, I get this as a download: [Link: media.mtvnservices.com...]
Well, it didn't look like that when I copied it, but it opens dozens of new tabs, each with this in the address bar: file:/ //C: /DOCUME~1/Owner/LOCALS~1/Temp /mediaplayerprime.1.12.1-3.swf
I put some spaces in there so it wouldn't convert to a link.
It's just me, isn't it.
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Ghost of Tom Joad Tue, Oct 9, 2012 5:42:51pm |
re: #430 goddamnedfrank
This time they may have set a new record.
It's funny, during the debate I made a comment about Romney meandering all over, and somebody said "it's like trying to nail jello to the wall." It's pretty much their tactic at this point. Vaguely support everything, then slightly walk it back, and then they can say they are for or against anything at any time.
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wrenchwench Tue, Oct 9, 2012 5:43:45pm |
re: #431 MittDoesNotCompute
Since you live in NM, ww, and I've only visited several times, I'll defer to you read on NM politics. However, seeing that it's a Dem AG spearheading against voter suppression tactics that favor the GOP, the odds that Martinez is gonna roll with King on this seems to be slim to none, IMO.
Yeah, he's just putting the pressure on her. His father was governor many years ago, and he hopes to be governor in the future.
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Ghost of Tom Joad Tue, Oct 9, 2012 5:45:16pm |
re: #433 wrenchwench
Weird, that's the previous post's video, though if something opens multiple tabs and starts targeting hard drives, I'd be worried about mal-ware or other things.
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b_sharp Tue, Oct 9, 2012 5:45:18pm |
re: #433 wrenchwench
This is even weirder. When I open a new front page of LGF, I get this as a download: [Link: media.mtvnservices.com...]
Well, it didn't look like that when I copied it, but it opens dozens of new tabs, each with this in the address bar: file:/ //C: /DOCUME~1/Owner/LOCALS~1/Temp /mediaplayerprime.1.12.1-3.swf
I put some spaces in there so it wouldn't convert to a link.
It's just me, isn't it.
Of course.
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b_sharp Tue, Oct 9, 2012 5:46:12pm |
re: #436 Ghost of Tom Joad
Weird, that's the previous post's video, though if something opens multiple tabs and starts targeting hard drives, I'd be worried about mal-ware or other things.
Yup, yup, yup.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Oct 9, 2012 5:46:22pm |
"Eye Of The Sparrow" — A Bad Lip Reading of the First 2012 Presidential Debate
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jaunte Tue, Oct 9, 2012 5:48:00pm |
Paul Ryan: ‘Inner City’ People Need To Be Taught ‘Good Discipline, Good Character’
"...What you don’t often hear spoken (out loud, anyway) is that the real problem with gun violence in America is the “character” and “discipline” of people in the “inner cities,” a very specific delineation from other city folk. Obviously, if you shoot someone to death, there’s a good chance you have a major character flaw or two, but what about all the “inner city” people who are doing the dying? Did they lack the “character” or “discipline” to dodge a bullet? Are rural or suburban murderers and victims more virtuous?
Apparently so. Apparently, crime in our cities has nothing to do with poverty, and systemic failures, fueled by generations of institutionalized racism, but with the character of those people. So says Paul Ryan, and so says Mitt Romney. If you’re poor, it’s because your culture is inferior."
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erik_t Tue, Oct 9, 2012 5:49:34pm |
re: #440 jaunte
Paul Ryan: ‘Inner City’ People Need To Be Taught ‘Good Discipline, Good Character’
Apparently so. Apparently, crime in our cities has nothing to do with poverty, and systemic failures, fueled by generations of institutionalized racism, but with the character of those people. So says Paul Ryan, and so says Mitt Romney. If you’re poor, it’s because your culture is inferior."
As I recall, this exactly mirrors his foreign policy views w.r.t. the third world.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Tue, Oct 9, 2012 5:49:41pm |
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Charles Johnson Tue, Oct 9, 2012 5:50:36pm |
No, there's no malware. We're still having problems with the traffic from Reddit, and things occasionally aren't loading correctly.
No reason to be concerned about malware.
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b_sharp Tue, Oct 9, 2012 5:52:11pm |
re: #440 jaunte
Paul Ryan: ‘Inner City’ People Need To Be Taught ‘Good Discipline, Good Character’
My observation, one that I've questioned D_F about, is that the more conservative a person the more likely he/she is to assume character flaws are genetic and/or not correctable.
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goddamnedfrank Tue, Oct 9, 2012 5:52:20pm |
At the next Presidential debate Obama should just open with every statement of Romney's that his campaign has had to immediately walk back. Start with the lie about Romney's health plan covering pre-existing conditions and go from there. Then talk about how Romney wants to get us into more foreign conflicts, raise military spending to keep us in Afghanistan indefinitely and invade Iran. He should strongly insinuate that Romney is a sociopath, drunk on the prospect of power, who will lie with every breath, who will destroy our rebuilt reputation in the eyes of the world and who gets off sexually on the idea of sending soldiers to be killed in unnecessarily foreign conflicts.
Ok that last bit might a tad over the line for a debate ...
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Interesting Times Tue, Oct 9, 2012 5:52:51pm |
Conservatives think Mitt is lying to moderates, moderates think Mitt is lying to conservatives, smart people see only one pathological liar.— Path2Enlightenment (@Path2Enlighten) October 10, 2012
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Tigger2005 Tue, Oct 9, 2012 5:53:02pm |
Actually, watching the debate, I got more an impression that Romney was the lying, obstinate child, and Obama was the sober adult, utterly taken aback by the mendacious youngster's audacity.
Romney came in, not to debate, but to put on a performance, a dog and pony show for the base. He gave them exactly what they wanted.
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wrenchwench Tue, Oct 9, 2012 5:59:06pm |
re: #436 Ghost of Tom Joad
Weird, that's the previous post's video, though if something opens multiple tabs and starts targeting hard drives, I'd be worried about mal-ware or other things.
Whatever it is, I'll have to deal with it tomorrow. Microsoft Security Essentials says I'm "up to date and protected", but I know that doesn't necessarily mean it is so.
Later, lizards.
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b_sharp Tue, Oct 9, 2012 5:59:09pm |
I have a raging headache, so I'm going to take a handful of Tylenol with a couple ounces of Glenfiddich.
If I disappear, it's because I'm in orbit.
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Ghost of Tom Joad Tue, Oct 9, 2012 5:59:38pm |
re: #443 Charles Johnson
I didn't intend to mean on your end, Charles. Websites loading slowly and being a little dysfunctional is one thing, weblinks opening multiple tabs at random and files in the TEMP folder (where a good deal of mal-ware seems to get in) tends to be user-side, and makes me a little jumpy after a case of ID Theft.
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Achilles Tang Tue, Oct 9, 2012 6:01:20pm |
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goddamnedfrank Tue, Oct 9, 2012 6:01:45pm |
re: #448 compound_Idaho
You are in the minority.
Why has Romney's campaign had to walk back so many of his statements? Obama's campaign doesn't have to do that, because he's not the one deliberately spewing lies and deceptive half truths. Romney's campaign is constantly telling people to ignore that thing that their candidate just said because it doesn't represent his true position on that issue. There's something pathologically wrong when that keeps happening, again and again. It says something pretty pathetic about one's supporters that they're constantly willing to gloss over, ignore, or even cheer on such blatant displays of mendacity.
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MittDoesNotCompute Tue, Oct 9, 2012 6:01:45pm |
re: #450 reflections of a raging redneck
I have a raging headache, so I'm going to take a handful of Tylenol with a couple ounces of Glenfiddich.
If I disappear, it's because I'm in orbit.
Not a good idea to mix Tylenol with booze, unless you want a liver transplant.
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jaunte Tue, Oct 9, 2012 6:06:14pm |
.@chucktodd Romney isn't "striking a more moderate tone." Romney is lying. TRUTH MATTERS AND OUR FUTURE DEPENDS ON IT. Do your job! #p2
— R B Obama Blair(@TuxcedoCat) October 10, 2012
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Charles Johnson Tue, Oct 9, 2012 6:06:51pm |
Just watched the Saturday Night Live skits on the debate. Not funny. They couldn't even make the Big Bird thing funny. Sad.
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 6:07:36pm |
re: #447 Tigger2005
Actually, watching the debate, I got more an impression that Romney was the lying, obstinate child, and Obama was the sober adult, utterly taken aback by the mendacious youngster's audacity.
Romney came in, not to debate, but to put on a performance, a dog and pony show for the base. He gave them exactly what they wanted.
My thoughts during the debate? I actually was picturing them both as being the captain of a 747. Watching Romney flap about and almost reaching a fevered pitch I decided that Obama would make the better captain.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Tue, Oct 9, 2012 6:07:43pm |
Being anti-Obama has made fools of 1/2 the electorate.
"he's not lying....he's not changing his positions"
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MittDoesNotCompute Tue, Oct 9, 2012 6:07:59pm |
re: #456 Charles Johnson
Just watched the Saturday Night Live skits on the debate. Not funny. They couldn't even make the Big Bird thing funny. Sad.
SNL, with few exceptions, hasn't been funny since the 90s.
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Big Joe Tue, Oct 9, 2012 6:08:26pm |
re: #450 reflections of a raging redneck
I have a raging headache, so I'm going to take a handful of Tylenol with a couple ounces of Glenfiddich.
If I disappear, it's because I'm in orbit.
I miss Dr Frost's 222s. Stupid FDA.
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Charles Johnson Tue, Oct 9, 2012 6:09:27pm |
That's why I don't watch Saturday Night Live until Tuesday night.
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 6:09:41pm |
[Link: chicagosprogressivetalk.com...]
Duckworth-Walsh debate.
Walsh sounds like an asshole per usual.
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jaunte Tue, Oct 9, 2012 6:14:29pm |
re: #462 Gus
Walsh just made a quarter-Romney bet with Duckworth.
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b_sharp Tue, Oct 9, 2012 6:15:21pm |
re: #454 MittDoesNotCompute
Not a good idea to mix Tylenol with booze, unless you want a liver transplant.
OK, I took the Tylenol, but I'll forgo the Scotch. I put my Space Shuttle T-shirt on instead.
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JamesWI Tue, Oct 9, 2012 6:30:05pm |
PBS Frontline "The Choice" - Romney had it so tough in France, because the French people rejected him when he tried to convert them.
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b_sharp Tue, Oct 9, 2012 6:32:12pm |
IMF says there is a 1 in 6 chance for a global recession.
That means a 5 in 6 chance of no global recession.
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makeitstop Tue, Oct 9, 2012 6:35:50pm |
Evening, Honcos,
The wife and I just got home from a day of playing hooky at the American Museum of Natural History in NYC, and we enjoyed immensely that which creationists refuse to believe even exists.
I took over 400 pictures today. I gotta say it was a good day.
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goddamnedfrank Tue, Oct 9, 2012 6:37:30pm |
re: #465 JamesWI
PBS Frontline "The Choice" - Romney had it so tough in France, because the French people rejected him when he tried to convert them.
I'm going to convince the French that wine is bad mmm'kay?
That's an uphill sales pitch.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Tue, Oct 9, 2012 6:38:16pm |
OK, I think the server is on it's last fucking breath.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Oct 9, 2012 6:39:00pm |
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b_sharp Tue, Oct 9, 2012 6:39:15pm |
re: #469 Blackity Black Black!
OK, I think the server is on it's last fucking breath.
We need to get behind it and push.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Tue, Oct 9, 2012 6:39:59pm |
BOOM. RT @theonlyadult: Romney is now pro-choice. Conservatives are just fine with it. After all, Obama is still black.
— Imani ABL (@AngryBlackLady) October 10, 2012
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JamesWI Tue, Oct 9, 2012 6:40:12pm |
re: #470 Dark_Falcon
What kind of bet is that?
$2,500 instead of $10,000.
Good strategy. Reminding lower and middle-class voters that Republicans like to throw around thousands of dollars on silly political bets. A real winner, that Walsh.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Tue, Oct 9, 2012 6:42:34pm |
as tough a wk as its been for libs, take heed + appreciate little things. like fact Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin are non-factors in US pol debate
— Eric Boehlert (@EricBoehlert) October 10, 2012
Yes. It was bad. Now we've got idiot Jack Welch and Romney himself.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Tue, Oct 9, 2012 6:42:58pm |
re: #475 reflections of a raging redneck
What's the most terrifying movie you've ever watched?
Exorcist
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goddamnedfrank Tue, Oct 9, 2012 6:43:06pm |
re: #474 JamesWI
$2,500 instead of $10,000.
Good strategy. Reminding lower and middle-class voters that Republicans like to throw around thousands of dollars on silly political bets. A real winner, that Walsh.
Isn't this the asshole that still owes outstanding child support?
I know that Republicans are intrinsically fucked up in the head, but what kind of greasy unwashed taint would even donate to a guy like that? I mean, how is his campaign even alive?
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b_sharp Tue, Oct 9, 2012 6:44:20pm |
re: #477 Blackity Black Black!
Exorcist
I found the last few minutes of Alien chilling. The suspense glued me to my seat.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Oct 9, 2012 6:44:37pm |
re: #475 reflections of a raging redneck
What's the most terrifying movie you've ever watched?
"Showgirls. Absolutely terrifying."
- Randy Meeks (Jamie Kennedy), Scream 2
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 6:44:41pm |
OK. Reverted back to Firefox 15.0.0.1 because of this:
@firefox "Warn me when closing multiple tabs" is not working on 16.0 I have it unchecked and it continues to warn. #Firefox— Gus (@Gus_802) October 10, 2012
Still getting that scrolling affect when clicking on images. So it wasn't because of 16.0.
That tabs thing was driving me crazy.
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b_sharp Tue, Oct 9, 2012 6:44:57pm |
re: #478 goddamnedfrank
Isn't this the asshole that still owes outstanding child support?
I know that Republicans are intrinsically fucked up in the head, but what kind of greasy unwashed taint would even donate to a guy like that? I mean, how is his campaign even alive?
Men's rights bozo?
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Tue, Oct 9, 2012 6:46:09pm |
re: #481 Gus
OK. Reverted back to Firefox 15.0.0.1 because of this:
[Embedded content]
Still getting that scrolling affect when clicking on images. So it wasn't because of 16.0.
That tabs thing was driving me crazy.
LGF server is the prob. Still having problems. Everything else is just fine. (Chrome)
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goddamnedfrank Tue, Oct 9, 2012 6:46:12pm |
re: #478 goddamnedfrank
My bad, Walsh and his ex settled the child support issue. Must be nice having dirtbag billionaires in your corner.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Oct 9, 2012 6:46:33pm |
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Tue, Oct 9, 2012 6:46:45pm |
re: #482 reflections of a raging redneck
Men's rights bozo?
"she's a lying bitch"
I betcha all his supporters in person say this.
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b_sharp Tue, Oct 9, 2012 6:46:50pm |
re: #481 Gus
OK. Reverted back to Firefox 15.0.0.1 because of this:
[Embedded content]
Still getting that scrolling affect when clicking on images. So it wasn't because of 16.0.
That tabs thing was driving me crazy.
That's scary, you don't have far to go.
Always keep the latest version of Chrome available, just in case.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Tue, Oct 9, 2012 6:47:01pm |
re: #465 JamesWI
PBS Frontline "The Choice" - Romney had it so tough in France, because the French people rejected him when he tried to convert them.
God help us if a majority of Americans aren't able to see through Willard's bullshit like those French people.
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 6:48:17pm |
re: #487 reflections of a raging redneck
That's scary, you don't have far to go.
Always keep the latest version of Chrome available, just in case.
The tabs thing is pretty weak on their part. Seriously? I even went into about:config and changed the Boolean there. Nada.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Tue, Oct 9, 2012 6:48:19pm |
The conversion mission is bizarre. And well funded. Luckies go to other countries, unluckies I see on my street.
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b_sharp Tue, Oct 9, 2012 6:48:55pm |
The GOP like Romney because they know they can control him with a $10,000 bill dangled in front of his nose.
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jaunte Tue, Oct 9, 2012 6:49:26pm |
William K. Wolfrum:
MITT ROMNEY’S BEST FRIEND IS JERRY SANDUSKY (and other things I don’t really believe)
"...While I admit some of these posts are woefully short on facts, that is not an important factor in today’s political scene. You see, when the media blatantly ignores a candidate’s lies – especially when his campaign admitted he would lie to attract voters - then a strategy of just making stuff up is a sure win.
...
My friends, my adopting a persona and style that is false will help me get the attention and readership I deserve. I will win. And, in the end, isn’t that what really matters?"
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b_sharp Tue, Oct 9, 2012 6:49:42pm |
re: #489 Gus
The tabs thing is pretty weak on their part. Seriously? I even went into about:config and changed the Boolean there. Nada.
I have 16.0 loaded, I'll check to see if it works.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Oct 9, 2012 6:52:20pm |
re: #491 reflections of a raging redneck
The GOP like Romney because they know they can control him with a $10,000 bill dangled in front of his nose.
He's not that cheap. You gotta use a $100,000 bill to do that.
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b_sharp Tue, Oct 9, 2012 6:54:02pm |
re: #489 Gus
The tabs thing is pretty weak on their part. Seriously? I even went into about:config and changed the Boolean there. Nada.
It didn't work when I turned it off through the options page, but it did work when I turned it off through the dialog box.
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 6:54:47pm |
re: #495 reflections of a raging redneck
It didn't work when I turned it off through the options page, but it did work when I turned it off through the dialog box.
Well it didn't work both ways so fuck it for now. 15.0.0.1 works fine.
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 6:55:53pm |
#Romney is misleading the public, trying to hide his extreme views on #abortion until after the #election: huff.to/QRuUa4— Planned Parenthood (@PPact) October 10, 2012
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Charles Johnson Tue, Oct 9, 2012 6:56:16pm |
re: #481 Gus
Been investigating these problems a lot today - bottom line, the Windows version of Firefox is buggy. Every other browser on both Mac and PC -- and Firefox on the Mac! -- works fine with the fancybox image popup code.
Still looking into it, but I don't have a work-around yet.
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b_sharp Tue, Oct 9, 2012 6:56:43pm |
re: #496 Gus
Well it didn't work both ways so fuck it for now. 15.0.0.1 works fine.
Have you tried Chrome? I tend to use FF because I'm old and set in my ways, but I've started to use Chrome more frequently lately.
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 6:57:07pm |
re: #499 reflections of a raging redneck
Have you tried Chrome? I tend to use FF because I'm old and set in my ways, but I've started to use Chrome more frequently lately.
No. I hate Chrome. Chrome sucks. Thanks though.
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b_sharp Tue, Oct 9, 2012 6:59:28pm |
re: #500 Gus
No. I hate Chrome. Chrome sucks. Thanks though.
I find Chrome more limited than FF, but usually faster.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Tue, Oct 9, 2012 6:59:51pm |
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jaunte Tue, Oct 9, 2012 7:00:14pm |
Husted To Appeal Ohio Early Voting Ruling To Supreme Court
"...Ohio Secretary of State Jon Husted announced Tuesday that he will appeal a court ruling which restored access to early voting during the three days before the election.
......
The 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled last week that “while there is a compelling reason to provide more opportunities for military voters to cast their ballots, there is no corresponding satisfactory reason to prevent non-military voters from casting their ballots as well.”
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Tue, Oct 9, 2012 7:11:21pm |
O/T I learned a hell of a lot today (in 3 minute blurbs) about the Nobel science prizes today.
Photons preserved and studied between two mirrors = the next computer tech?
Loved it.
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Varek Raith Tue, Oct 9, 2012 7:15:53pm |
re: #506 Blackity Black Black!
O/T I learned a hell of a lot today (in 3 minute blurbs) about the Nobel science prizes today.
Photons preserved and studied between two mirrors = the next computer tech?
Loved it.
Sorcery.
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Varek Raith Tue, Oct 9, 2012 7:18:23pm |
re: #506 Blackity Black Black!
O/T I learned a hell of a lot today (in 3 minute blurbs) about the Nobel science prizes today.
Photons preserved and studied between two mirrors = the next computer tech?
Loved it.
We are starting to make Star Trek tech sound like stone tools.
Awesome.
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Targetpractice Tue, Oct 9, 2012 7:20:30pm |
re: #508 Varek Raith
We are starting to make Star Trek tech sound like stone tools.
Awesome.
*arches eyebrow* Fascinating.
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freetoken Tue, Oct 9, 2012 7:24:08pm |
Just another example of why I think Romney is not the right person for the WH:
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b_sharp Tue, Oct 9, 2012 7:25:06pm |
re: #511 freetoken
Just another example of why I think Romney is not the right person for the WH:
Does he know what Netanyahu thinks?
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Targetpractice Tue, Oct 9, 2012 7:25:07pm |
re: #510 Varek Raith
How goes Xcom?
Pretty good so far. Planted more than a few soldiers, but I've certainly improved from where I was. Just need to get a handle on base and time management now.
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Reverend Mother Ramallo Tue, Oct 9, 2012 7:26:13pm |
re: #512 reflections of a raging redneck
Does he know what Netanyahu thinks?
If he doesn't, he'll just make something up.
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b_sharp Tue, Oct 9, 2012 7:26:27pm |
I've been trying all day to keep my left hand from knowing what my right hand is doing.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Tue, Oct 9, 2012 7:27:13pm |
re: #508 Varek Raith
We are starting to make Star Trek tech sound like stone tools.
Awesome.
The weird assed bad assed computer that comes from this is beyond.
Seriously, I think we will transport eventually.
(anyone remember the Stephen King story "The Juant" ???)
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 7:27:30pm |
re: #514 Reverend Mother Ramallo
If he doesn't, he'll just make something up.
Have you heard? Early elections in Israel.
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 7:27:53pm |
PM Netanyahu calls for early elections with the following official statement: isra.li/fft— Embassy of Israel (@IsraelinUSA) October 10, 2012
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Tue, Oct 9, 2012 7:28:28pm |
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b_sharp Tue, Oct 9, 2012 7:28:56pm |
re: #516 Blackity Black Black!
The weird assed bad assed computer that comes from this is beyond.
Seriously, I think we will transport eventually.
(anyone remember the Stephen King story "The Juant" ???)
The reconstructed person will be a copy, the original will be dead.
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Interesting Times Tue, Oct 9, 2012 7:29:39pm |
Also, Republicanism. RT @uberfacts:The fear of female genitalia is called "eurotophobia."— Kaili Joy Gray (@KailiJoy) October 10, 2012
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 7:29:46pm |
re: #519 Blackity Black Black!
Right wing political freak
Nah. He's a war monger is all. Otherwise he's pretty liberal. Now, if his war mongering ways is enough to make him a RW freak for you that's something I can't decide on nor judge. :)
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freetoken Tue, Oct 9, 2012 7:30:06pm |
re: #512 reflections of a raging redneck
Does he know what Netanyahu thinks?
re: #518 Gus
Yeah, that's the thing. Mitt is just pandering to both the religious right and their well documented obsession/compulsion about "Israel", and to the neocons.
In reality, the various nations on this planet have multitude of issues with which to deal, continually, and netanyahu could be out of office quickly for some reason unrelated to what Romney is trying to posture as their mutual views.
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Reverend Mother Ramallo Tue, Oct 9, 2012 7:30:46pm |
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jaunte Tue, Oct 9, 2012 7:31:35pm |
"It's tough to say what he believes." -Rob Gray, senior adviser to Romney's gubernatorial campaign. #frontline
— Michael Luo (@michaelluo) October 10, 2012
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freetoken Tue, Oct 9, 2012 7:31:47pm |
If Romney wanted to act all Presidential, then the proper course of action for him would be to restate the current (and long running) policy of a "two state solution", and in regards to Iran that the US believes in and strongly encourages non-proliferation of nuclear weapons.
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 7:31:49pm |
re: #523 freetoken
re: #518 Gus
Yeah, that's the thing. Mitt is just pandering to both the religious right and their well documented obsession/compulsion about "Israel", and to the neocons.
In reality, the various nations on this planet have multitude of issues with which to deal, continually, and netanyahu could be out of office quickly for some reason unrelated to what Romney is trying to posture as their mutual views.
Bibi is just in panic mode because he knows that if he waits for a normal election he's screwed. The Israeli economy is faltering. He can win like this. Normally he'd likely lose.
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Targetpractice Tue, Oct 9, 2012 7:31:49pm |
re: #511 freetoken
Just another example of why I think Romney is not the right person for the WH:
Shortened article: Romney will continue Obama's work in Iran, Romney's approach to Syria will be a repeat of Reagan's to Afghanistan, and he's tossing out vague shit about his tax plans while saying that we won't know what will happen before he's elected because Congress (read: House GOP) will have to figure it all out.
Second verse, same as the first.
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 7:33:37pm |
@rationalists @andersoncooper @piersmorgan I learned this earlier this year. Was following Anderson but gave up. Piers is a showman as well.— Gus (@Gus_802) October 10, 2012
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JamesWI Tue, Oct 9, 2012 7:35:05pm |
Erick Erickson, the most sensible goat-fucking child molester in the right-wing today:
Sufflok University polling writing off VA and FL for Romney really just means you shouldn't trust Suffolk University polling.
— Erick Erickson (@EWErickson) October 10, 2012
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Tue, Oct 9, 2012 7:35:20pm |
re: #525 jaunte
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he's whatever he needs to be. I think he is extremely creepy.
Bad kids, spoiled kids, had everything in the world handed to him (he was a spoiled kid. See: him holding sign in favor of the Viet Nam draft) He is not
America. (if that matters)
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 7:36:27pm |
re: #531 JamesWI
Erick Erickson, the most sensible goat-fucking child molester in the right-wing today:
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We're doomed!
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Tue, Oct 9, 2012 7:36:31pm |
re: #527 Gus
Bibi is just in panic mode because he knows that if he waits for a normal election he's screwed. The Israeli economy is faltering. He can win like this. Normally he'd likely lose.
Imagine if we could call an election sooner than planned. REALLY?
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Targetpractice Tue, Oct 9, 2012 7:36:51pm |
re: #531 JamesWI
Erick Erickson, the most sensible goat-fucking child molester in the right-wing today:
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Eh, what's he babbling about?
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Reverend Mother Ramallo Tue, Oct 9, 2012 7:38:06pm |
Well, it looks like I'm gonna have to delve a little deeper into Israeli politics.
I don't know enough to judge.
All I know is, Bibi makes me nervous.
All hawks do.
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JamesWI Tue, Oct 9, 2012 7:38:32pm |
re: #536 Targetpractice
Eh, what's he babbling about?
The Suffolk U pollster said he's not going to poll Florida, Virginia, or North Carolina anymore because they're no chance Obama could possibly win there.
And even Erick Erickson is laughing at him.
| 539 |
jaunte Tue, Oct 9, 2012 7:39:05pm |
Pollster Says Obama Can't Win FL, NC and VA
[Link: politicalwire.com...]
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Oct 9, 2012 7:39:15pm |
re: #526 freetoken
If Romney wanted to act all Presidential, then the proper course of action for him would be to restate the current (and long running) policy of a "two state solution", and in regards to Iran that the US believes in and strongly encourages non-proliferation of nuclear weapons.
Not enough with Iran. I'm with Netanyahu on that score: The US and Israel need to set a clear 'red line' along the path Iran would need to take to build a nuke. The logical point would be enriching mid-grade enriched uranium to highly-enriched uranium. What I think should be done is to openly warn Iran that if it attempts to produce highly enriched uranium any facility producing or storing said grade of uranium will be destroyed without further warning.
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Targetpractice Tue, Oct 9, 2012 7:39:25pm |
re: #538 JamesWI
The Suffolk U pollster said he's not going to poll Florida, Virginia, or North Carolina anymore because they're no chance Obama could possibly win there.
And even Erick Erickson is laughing at him.
Shit, when the day comes that I agree with Erick Erickson about something, it's time to start watching for four guys riding by on horseback.
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Targetpractice Tue, Oct 9, 2012 7:39:56pm |
re: #540 Dark_Falcon
Not enough with Iran. I'm with Netanyahu on that score: The US and Israel need to set a clear 'red line' along the path Iran would need to take to build a nuke. The logical point would be enriching mid-grade enriched uranium to highly-enriched uranium. What I think should be done is to openly warn Iran that if it attempts to produce highly enriched uranium any facility producing or storing said grade of uranium will be destroyed without further warning.
And then what? What's your follow-up?
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Tue, Oct 9, 2012 7:40:58pm |
re: #538 JamesWI
The Suffolk U pollster said he's not going to poll Florida, Virginia, or North Carolina anymore because they're no chance Obama could possibly win there.
And even Erick Erickson is laughing at him.
re: #539 jaunte
Pollster Says Obama Can't Win FL, NC and VA
[Link: politicalwire.com...]
Go for it assholes. Promote to your base. Stay home, no worries.
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JamesWI Tue, Oct 9, 2012 7:41:36pm |
re: #542 Targetpractice
And then what? What's your follow-up?
Didn't DF already say that a few months ago? Preemptive nukes. That's his follow up.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Tue, Oct 9, 2012 7:42:20pm |
re: #540 Dark_Falcon
Not enough with Iran. I'm with Netanyahu on that score: The US and Israel need to set a clear 'red line' along the path Iran would need to take to build a nuke. The logical point would be enriching mid-grade enriched uranium to highly-enriched uranium. What I think should be done is to openly warn Iran that if it attempts to produce highly enriched uranium any facility producing or storing said grade of uranium will be destroyed without further warning.
KA BOOM! GOP loves loves loves war. Are you going to enlist?
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Tue, Oct 9, 2012 7:43:42pm |
re: #545 Blackity Black Black!
KA BOOM! GOP loves loves loves war. Are you going to enlist?
Or just hold a sign for the draft?
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Gus Tue, Oct 9, 2012 7:45:11pm |
I think we should reinstitute the draft for all registered Republican males; train them for 6 months; then invade Iran.
//
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Oct 9, 2012 7:47:20pm |
re: #544 JamesWI
Didn't DF already say that a few months ago? Preemptive nukes. That's his follow up.
Nukes shouldn't be needed. We've got new earth penetrator bombs that can deal with the facilities conventionally. The only way I had considered using a nuke was if we were dealing with a target which could not possibly be neutralized by conventional aerial means (any target can be taken out with a large enough ground assault, but that option is not one I'd support).
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Oct 9, 2012 7:48:34pm |
re: #542 Targetpractice
And then what? What's your follow-up?
If they cross the red line, then the facilities enriching uranium to high grade would be destroyed without warning. We carry out the threat, in other words.
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Targetpractice Tue, Oct 9, 2012 7:50:21pm |
re: #549 Dark_Falcon
If they cross the red line, then the facilities enriching uranium to high grade would be destroyed without warning. We carry out the threat, in other words.
And then what? Seriously, does it not occur to you that A) you might not get everything in one attack and B) you're just gonna lend credibility to those pushing for such weapons in the first place?
| 553 |
JamesWI Tue, Oct 9, 2012 7:52:14pm |
re: #548 Dark_Falcon
Nukes shouldn't be needed. We've got new earth penetrator bombs that can deal with the facilities conventionally. The only way I had considered using a nuke was if we were dealing with a target which could not possibly be neutralized by conventional aerial means (any target can be taken out with a large enough ground assault, but that option is not one I'd support).
So we bomb Iran.....to keep them from getting nukes...... then they attack Israel in retaliation....... then we're in another war. Fantastic.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Oct 9, 2012 7:53:53pm |
re: #551 Targetpractice
And then what? Seriously, does it not occur to you that A) you might not get everything in one attack and B) you're just gonna lend credibility to those pushing for such weapons in the first place?
If they begin high-grade enrichment, "those pushing for such weapons in the first place" will have already gotten the upper hand in Iran. At that point, i would argue the hope that saner head prevail in Iran would be outweighed by the likelihood that they will not. In such a case, military action is the only remaining option.
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goddamnedfrank Tue, Oct 9, 2012 7:55:36pm |
re: #548 Dark_Falcon
Nukes shouldn't be needed. We've got new earth penetrator bombs that can deal with the facilities conventionally. The only way I had considered using a nuke was if we were dealing with a target which could not possibly be neutralized by conventional aerial means (any target can be taken out with a large enough ground assault, but that option is not one I'd support).
You're still going to create a radiological disaster. Uranium is pyrophoric, bombing a fueled facility is going to cause fires and spread radioactive particulates all over the Middle East.
That should go over well.
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Targetpractice Tue, Oct 9, 2012 7:56:29pm |
re: #554 Dark_Falcon
If they begin high-grade enrichment, "those pushing for such weapons in the first place" will have already gotten the upper hand in Iran. At that point, i would argue the hope that saner head prevail in Iran would be outweighed by the likelihood that they will not. In such a case, military action is the only remaining option.
And in six months? A year? 2? I don't think you understand that once you've bombed the bejesus out of them, saying "If you do that again, I'm going to come back" is not a warning, it's a challenge.
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Targetpractice Tue, Oct 9, 2012 7:57:03pm |
re: #555 goddamnedfrank
You're still going to create a radiological disaster. Uranium is pyrophoric, bombing a fueled facility is going to cause fires and spread radioactive particulates all over the Middle East.
That should go over well.
Not to mention Russia and China are gonna want a piece of our ass in the UN.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Tue, Oct 9, 2012 8:05:31pm |
re: #557 Targetpractice
Not to mention Russia and China are gonna want a piece of our ass in the UN.
They hate the reality of diplomacy. Bomb em.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Oct 9, 2012 8:24:44pm |
re: #557 Targetpractice
Not to mention Russia and China are gonna want a piece of our ass in the UN.
So what? The UN is just as toothless where the US is concerned as it is in matters relating to Russia.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Oct 9, 2012 8:26:20pm |
re: #555 goddamnedfrank
You're still going to create a radiological disaster. Uranium is pyrophoric, bombing a fueled facility is going to cause fires and spread radioactive particulates all over the Middle East.
That should go over well.
Better that than a city or two gets slagged by Iranian nukes.
I don't want to bomb such facilities. but it seems to me the least-worst option.
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Tigger2005 Tue, Oct 9, 2012 8:29:22pm |
re: #448 compound_Idaho
You are in the minority.
I doubt that's true, but if it is, what of it? I'm still right.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Tue, Oct 9, 2012 9:15:50pm |
re: #498 Charles Johnson
Been investigating these problems a lot today - bottom line, the Windows version of Firefox is buggy. Every other browser on both Mac and PC -- and Firefox on the Mac! -- works fine with the fancybox image popup code.
Still looking into it, but I don't have a work-around yet.
And whatever the bug is it came in with FF 15 or so. I was using an older FF version up to this past weekend and was not having that issue.
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The Mongoose Tue, Oct 9, 2012 9:29:37pm |
re: #561 Tigger2005
I doubt that's true, but if it is, what of it? I'm still right.
It's definitely true...most polls showed large majorities or pluralities of debate-watchers thought Mr. Romney had the better performance. It's a matter of opinion; no one's "right", no one's "wrong". It's perfectly valid to have one's own set of criteria for what constitutes a good debate performance.
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The Mongoose Tue, Oct 9, 2012 9:36:47pm |
re: #560 Dark_Falcon
Better that than a city or two gets slagged by Iranian nukes.
I don't want to bomb such facilities. but it seems to me the least-worst option.
This is the part I don't get in terms of the opposition to hitting Iran if needed. We don't want diplomacy to fail, we want sanctions to work, we want Iran to stop pursuing the bomb. But if they don't, would those who oppose any military action actually be OK with Iran pointing nuclear missiles at civilians across the region? Is this really an acceptable outcome?
Edit to add: That's not even the worst-case scenario. The real nightmare isn't Iran holding onto a nuclear warhead...it's Iran selling one to a non-state group that won't be worried about retaliation when they detonate it in London.
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Tigger2005 Wed, Oct 10, 2012 6:51:45am |
re: #563 The Mongoose
It's definitely true...most polls showed large majorities or pluralities of debate-watchers thought Mr. Romney had the better performance. It's a matter of opinion; no one's "right", no one's "wrong". It's perfectly valid to have one's own set of criteria for what constitutes a good debate performance.
Our standards for Presidential debates are much lower than our standards for high school debates. Since Presidential debates are so much more important, shouldn't the standards for high school debates be lowered even further? I say if you show up wearing a cape and hood and respond "I'm Batman!" to every question while posing heroically, you should beat the kid in the suit and tie with all his stupid pedantic facts and logic.
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Jaerik Wed, Oct 10, 2012 5:08:34pm |
re: #447 Tigger2005
Actually, watching the debate, I got more an impression that Romney was the lying, obstinate child, and Obama was the sober adult, utterly taken aback by the mendacious youngster's audacity.
Romney came in, not to debate, but to put on a performance, a dog and pony show for the base. He gave them exactly what they wanted.
The problem is, that argument is equally damning.
Obama and his team have now been watching Fox for four years. They were there during the midterm elections. They've watched each back and forth of this in real time. That's their jobs.
Romney was no more "mendacious" than usual. He wasn't even any more "mendacious" than any other of Obama's opponents. Hell, a good chunk still haven't even accepted his birth certificate.
There's no way to argue he was "surprised" or "taken aback" by the other side's fast and loose record with the truth. If that's true, then he's too dumb to be President.
It's a whiff any last way you slice it, and I'm a supporter.
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