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1 diamonda2u  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 5:45:26pm

It's about to go down... let's do this Joe!

2 JamesWI  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 5:46:15pm

Alright Joe.....please don't let Ryan walk over with you lies.

3 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 5:46:26pm

I'm starting a pool on how many lies Ryan will squeeze in during the 90 minutes provided.

4 Gus  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 5:47:02pm

Dear Joe,

Please kick Congressman Paul Ryan's ass.

Thanks,

Gus

5 diamonda2u  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 5:47:02pm

re: #3 Mr. Crankypants

I'm starting a pool on how many lies Ryan will squeeze in during the 90 minutes provided.

My paycheck doesn't cover that

6 Gus  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 5:48:03pm

Yippie! No Jim Lehrer. Whew.

7 Gus  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 5:48:40pm
8 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 5:48:44pm

Hmm. We seem to be staying online a bit longer this time. Hopefully it's a trend.

9 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 5:48:51pm

re: #5 diamonda2u

My paycheck doesn't cover that

So ya think Joe will go for the jugular or will he let Ryan hang himself?

10 Targetpractice  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 5:48:55pm

Joe, feel free to look like an "angry old man" if it means knocking Ryan off his petard.

11 diamonda2u  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 5:50:18pm

re: #9 Mr. Crankypants

So ya think Joe will go for the jugular or will he let Ryan hang himself?

I hope he does a combo of both. Let Ryan hang himself with lies, and then call him out systematically and cut his head off :-)

12 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 5:51:53pm

re: #4 Gus

Dear Joe,

Please kick Congressman Paul Ryan's ass.

Thanks,

Gus

Were the tweets true? We're not allowed to call him that? I don't believe it.

13 BongCrodny  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 5:52:03pm

re: #3 Mr. Crankypants

I'm starting a pool on how many lies Ryan will squeeze in during the 90 minutes provided.

I'll go with ∞.

14 Gus  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 5:52:16pm

re: #12 Blackity Black Black!

Were the tweets true? We're not allowed to call him that? I don't believe it.

I think so.

15 R.M, Ramallo  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 5:52:16pm

Do the damn thing, Joe!
Do. The damn. Thing.
...and watch out for Vaseline.
He's a slippery little weasel...

16 elizajane  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 5:52:44pm

I cannot watch this or possibly any other debate ever. The trauma from watching the last one almost killed me. I'm just going to live vicariously through the reactions here. Let me know when I need to drink.

17 freetoken  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 5:53:53pm

C-span in one window, LGF in another (let's hope)... chocolate in hand - I'm ready.

18 diamonda2u  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 5:54:44pm

Honestly, I monitored Obama's debate here because I really can not stomach Mitt Romney. He gives me the creeps, his lying is so disrespectful to the American people that I can't believe he gets an audience (he sure ain't gettin' mine, even on tv). There is just something about Romney that makes me get a chill and go "eeewww" (like a pervert vibe)... sorry just the truth. But Ryan, Jr, I can at least stomach and listen to, even though I may hold my nose.

19 PhillyPretzel  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 5:54:46pm

I gave up watching debates back when I took a Political Science course.

20 freetoken  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 5:54:47pm

Off topic, but it was a beautiful day today in San Diego, but it was supposed to rain, which we need desperately, especially for the rogue loquat trees for which no one takes care.

21 diamonda2u  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 5:55:00pm

re: #17 freetoken

C-span in one window, LGF in another (let's hope)... chocolate in hand - I'm ready.

Me also

22 engineer cat  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 5:55:13pm

re: #16 elizajane

I cannot watch this or possibly any other debate ever. The trauma from watching the last one almost killed me. I'm just going to live vicariously through the reactions here. Let me know when I need to drink.

i have to finish a feature and check it in in time to then go to a formal dinner

the universe has arranged it so that i can only hear the spin after it's all over

23 Tigger2  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 5:55:35pm

re: #12 Blackity Black Black!

Were the tweets true? We're not allowed to call him that? I don't believe it.

That is just for the moderator.

24 freetoken  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 5:55:56pm

Today is 10-11-12 - maybe I should play the Lotto?

25 PhillyPretzel  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 5:56:17pm

That sounds good.

26 diamonda2u  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 5:56:32pm

Something I hope the campaign told Joe about today and he brings it up...
[Link: politicalwire.com...]


Trending:

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October 11, 2012

Romney Says Nobody Dies for Lack of Health Insurance
Mitt Romney, who has pledged to repeal Obamacare, told the Columbus Dispatch that people without health insurance don't have to worry about dying as a result.

Said Romney: "We don't have people that become ill, who die in their apartment because they don't have insurance."

However, Reuters reported earlier this year that more than 26,000 working-age adults die prematurely in the United States each year because they lack health insurance.

27 Petero1818  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 5:56:35pm

re: #20 freetoken

Off topic, but it was a beautiful day today in San Diego, but it was supposed to rain, which we need desperately, especially for the rogue loquat trees for which no one takes care.

Just got back from two weeks in the San Diego area. Did not see a drop of rain. Absolutely spectacular weather!

28 JamesWI  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 5:56:42pm

I am way too nervous for a VP debate.

29 freetoken  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 5:57:12pm

At least Lehrer warmed up the crowd - this one just sits there.

30 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 5:57:21pm

While LGF was down, I had a new grandkid (a baby girl for my daughter). That's 31. :)

31 freetoken  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 5:57:27pm

These things need an opening act.

32 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 5:57:29pm

I, as always, remain sanguine.

33 PhillyPretzel  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 5:58:01pm

re: #30 Sheila Broflovski

Mazel Tov

34 freetoken  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 5:58:18pm

Maybe we can get Lewis Black to open the next one?

35 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 5:58:34pm

re: #30 Sheila Broflovski

Mazel tov!

36 Sionainn  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 5:58:35pm

re: #17 freetoken

C-span in one window, LGF in another (let's hope)... chocolate in hand - I'm ready.

Eating chicken ravioli and garlic bread that my dear husband served me at my desk (so he doesn't have to watch the debate).

37 JamesWI  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 5:58:53pm

Guy on CNN says Biden and Paul are "as nervous as a hooker in church."

38 Targetpractice  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 5:59:02pm

I know Joe's handlers are gonna want him to play it safe, not come off as "angry," but I think that's exactly the wrong advice at this point. Right now, he needs to get angry, he needs to get Ryan backed into a corner, and then he needs to pound on him. Don't be afraid to be a bully, but Ryan is surely not gonna pull any punches.

39 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 5:59:38pm

Everyone saw the Paul Ryan beefcake photos at Time magazine's formerly reputable website, right?

40 freetoken  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:00:16pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

Oh yes.

However, at the gym this afternoon I didn't see anyone quite like that. I wonder why?

41 diamonda2u  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:00:20pm

re: #38 Targetpractice

I know Joe's handlers are gonna want him to play it safe, not come off as "angry," but I think that's exactly the wrong advice at this point. Right now, he needs to get angry, he needs to get Ryan backed into a corner, and then he needs to pound on him. Don't be afraid to be a bully, but Ryan is surely not gonna pull any punches.

He needs to get angry in the right way and tell the American people why...say it just like we would.. "American's get ANGRY when they are lied to" and then let Junior Mittens have it

42 Targetpractice  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:00:21pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

Everyone saw the Paul Ryan beefcake photos at Time magazine's formerly reputable website, right?

The ones Ryan's bitching about even though he posed for them?

43 JamesWI  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:00:33pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

Everyone saw the Paul Ryan beefcake photos at Time magazine's formerly reputable website, right?

[Link: cutcarbsandbenefits.tumblr.com...]

44 Iwouldprefernotto  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:00:58pm

re: #37 JamesWI

Guy on CNN says Biden and Paul are "as nervous as a hooker in church."

Why would a hooker be nervous in church? I would think that a priest would be more nervous in a brothel. Maybe not.

45 freetoken  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:01:00pm

Paul "Beefcake" Ryan.

Rolls right off the tongue.

46 Sionainn  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:01:09pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

Everyone saw the Paul Ryan beefcake photos at Time magazine's formerly reputable website, right?

Thank goodness, no.

47 Petero1818  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:01:33pm

re: #38 Targetpractice

I think they don't mind if Joe gets angry. Its the President they dont want to get angry. More forceful than the last one, but not angry. Wouldn't want him to scare off the white folks.///

48 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:01:33pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

Everyone saw the Paul Ryan beefcake photos at Time magazine's formerly reputable website, right?

Ya.....

49 Targetpractice  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:01:39pm

Let's rock!

50 Major Tom  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:02:01pm

uh I already have heart burn... lets have at it.

51 diamonda2u  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:02:12pm

re: #39 Charles

Everyone saw the Paul Ryan beefcake photos at Time magazine's formerly reputable website, right?

Nein...considering I don't think Ryan is a "beefcake"...it's the last thing I want to see...

52 Gus  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:02:50pm

She said congressman!

53 Targetpractice  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:02:53pm

I reiterate my disgust with the idea of a silent audience during a debate.

54 sagehen  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:02:58pm

It's also on YouTube live-stream.

55 diamonda2u  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:03:04pm

re: #52 Gus

She said congressman!

Drink!

56 Tigger2  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:03:07pm

LOL see called him Congressman.

57 Only The Lurker Knows  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:03:11pm

Going to watch this on the T.V.

Night Lizards.

58 Killgore Trout  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:03:17pm

Ryan's cheating! I saw a hanky!

59 freetoken  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:03:31pm

Sitting for a debate is like standing for a **** defecation.

60 PhillyPretzel  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:04:25pm

Good Night to my fellow Lizards.

61 freetoken  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:04:43pm

Well, Joe is off and running with his talking points.

62 Targetpractice  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:04:56pm

OBL! DRINK!

63 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:05:10pm

Biden's slammin' out of the gate.

64 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:05:12pm

Joe already on the attack, good.

65 diamonda2u  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:05:18pm

Drink words of the night... OBL and Congressman ...LOL

66 Petero1818  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:05:21pm

re: #61 freetoken

Well, Joe is off and running with his talking points.

what was the question again? Oh never mind.

67 Gus  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:05:33pm

Ryan already smirking.

68 Tigger2  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:05:38pm

re: #61 freetoken

Well, Joe is off and running with his talking points.

No talking points just the truth.

69 Major Tom  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:05:44pm

slamin... ramblin too...

70 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:06:14pm

i think Joe was about rdy to backhand ryan

71 Decatur Deb  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:06:41pm

Marines are in the embassy--rarely in a consulate.

72 Major Tom  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:06:56pm

eric cartman, thats who ryan reminds me of...

73 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:06:56pm

re: #71 Decatur Deb

Marines are in the embassy--rarely in a consulate.

Facts.

74 diamonda2u  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:07:15pm

re: #71 Decatur Deb

Marines are in the embassy--rarely in a consulate.

You would think Junior, who wants to be VP would know this...but he is Junior

75 Killgore Trout  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:07:25pm

Biden's smiling smirking chuckling. Careful with that.

76 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:07:36pm

re: #70 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

i think Joe was about rdy to backhand ryan

I'd rather Joe run Ryan down with his Trans Am with the T-tops.

While listening to Journey.

///

77 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:07:50pm

ryan just opened himself up since he voted against funding for security at the embassies.

78 JamesWI  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:07:53pm

re: #75 Killgore Trout

Biden's smiling smirking chuckling. Careful with that.

You're concerned about his smiling?

79 freetoken  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:08:06pm

Already this is going to be along night.

These guys have to speak about the top of the ticket, which means they will have to keep talking about other people than themselves.

80 Daniel Ballard  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:08:07pm

OT
I just voted to end the death penalty in my state. (Mail in form)

81 JamesWI  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:08:18pm

Biden mouths "That's not true"

82 Targetpractice  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:08:25pm

Wow, a moderator willing to press a candidate. What a wonderful change of pace.

83 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:08:29pm

Joe is so going to smack him

84 diamonda2u  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:08:43pm

re: #79 freetoken

Already this is going to be along night.

These guys have to speak about the top of the ticket, which means they will have to keep talking about other people than themselves.

True, but Biden at least likes and respects Obama... Ryan... still can't believe he chose to run second fiddle to Mittens

85 Petero1818  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:08:44pm

Joe, stop smiling. Write some notes and punch back.

86 DisturbedEma  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:08:57pm

re: #46 Sionainn

Beefcake????? Ha. . .not in this lifetime. . .more like leftovers. . .:)

87 Sionainn  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:09:06pm

Whoo hoo!

88 diamonda2u  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:09:11pm

Go get em' Joe

89 bratwurst  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:09:11pm

Joe is on the attack!

90 DisturbedEma  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:09:22pm

re: #82 Targetpractice

AMEN!

91 JamesWI  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:09:26pm

Boom!

92 Decatur Deb  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:09:29pm

Heh. "Malarkey' is far too polite.

93 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:09:35pm

Go Joe GO!

94 Petero1818  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:09:48pm

Say it aint so Joe.

95 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:09:52pm

Joe is rockin' tonight.

96 Killgore Trout  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:09:55pm

re: #85 Petero1818

Joe, stop smiling. Write some notes and punch back.

Yeah, I little bit goes a long ways.

97 Major Tom  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:10:07pm

sanctions ... sanctions!!!

98 moderatelyradicalliberal  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:10:13pm

Go Joe! Malarkey is a great word for bullshit.

99 Sionainn  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:10:17pm

re: #86 DisturbedEma

Beefcake????? Ha. . .not in this lifetime. . .more like leftovers. . .:)

Just to be clear, I don't think he's "beefcake." LOL. Yuck.

100 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:10:50pm

re: #99 Sionainn

Just to be clear, I don't think he's "beefcake." LOL. Yuck.

More like bullshit

101 DisturbedEma  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:10:50pm

re: #99 Sionainn

Oh I know:)

102 Decatur Deb  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:11:14pm

The first report on anything from around the world is always wrong. So are the second and third, usually.

103 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:11:16pm

re: #80 Daniel Ballard

OT
I just voted to end the death penalty in my state. (Mail in form)

OT, I couldn't respond to you today about the CA amendments. But that was the easy one.re: #95 Charles Johnson

Joe is rockin' tonight.

Facts seem to do that.

104 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:11:29pm

heh

105 mr.fusion  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:11:41pm

re: #95 Charles Johnson

Joe is rockin' tonight.

He really is

Offering a passionate defense of the President, calling out BS within the first 5 minutes, and backing it all up with facts.

Smacked Paul Ryan down for voting for less in Embassy funding than the Obama administration had asked for. Would have liked to have seen him get into that more, but he's going at him

And now she's asking him about apologies. Awesome

106 engineer cat  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:11:47pm

re: #81 JamesWI

Biden mouths "That's not true"

basically i think biden and obama should just calmly and politely keep repeating "and that's not true"

107 Major Tom  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:11:48pm

Nice moderator question.

108 diamonda2u  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:12:00pm

Did you see Joe's face when he said Yes... Classic

109 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:12:06pm

I like the moderator already, just destroyed the "apology" bs

110 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:12:12pm

To me, Ryan is an ideologue, Biden knows his stuff.

111 danarchy  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:12:12pm

CNN has one of those undecided voter graphs on the screen. I have never seen one go as negative as it did on Joe's last answer. Not sure why.

112 HappyWarrior  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:12:14pm

Just checking in guys but how's the debate going?

113 freetoken  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:12:16pm

This interlocutor is ... well, so far I'm not impressed. She's mixing up questions.

114 Killgore Trout  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:12:24pm
115 diamonda2u  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:12:26pm

STUMPED!! Great.. Ryan stumped a little there

116 engineer cat  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:12:32pm

note to joe: piss ryan off so that he loses his temper

117 Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:12:43pm

Can this moderator please please please do a Presidential debate?

118 Major Tom  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:12:50pm

re: #111 danarchy

he was repeating himself maybe

119 freetoken  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:12:51pm

re: #111 danarchy

I didn't like it either.

Framing is everything, so to speak.

120 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:12:53pm

Ryan is flustered. That answer was complete bullshit.

121 Jdorfma4  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:13:03pm

I don't understand why the media plays the gotcha game about the consulate. So the original reports were wrong. Those things happen. New data came out and we identified the real culprits. What is wrong with that? The issue would be if the administration continued to deny the truth after it was discovered. They didn't. This is how adults act and they acted correctly.

122 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:13:17pm

re: #120 Charles Johnson

be prepared for a lot of that.

123 freetoken  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:13:23pm

Sorry, but no, Iran is not the biggest security issue for this country.

Fail on the moderator's part.

124 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:13:31pm

re: #117 Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All

Can this moderator please please please do a Presidential debate?

They hate her already (Daily Caller) Funny how they go after the females (Gwen Ifill, anyone?)

125 Decatur Deb  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:13:32pm

Marine security guards are not there to hold off an armed horde--the MSG job is to buy time to destroy crypto and cover a bugout.

126 moderatelyradicalliberal  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:13:37pm

Is it just me or is the moderator actually allowing the Democrat to answer fully and respond fully?

127 Iwouldprefernotto  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:13:52pm

First time in Spy mode. Love it.

128 Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:14:10pm

Ok, I like how she cuts the answer off after a certain amount of time. It's like she's saying, 'ok enough rambling.' Thank goodness.

129 DisturbedEma  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:14:17pm

re: #126 moderatelyradicalliberal

Nope- it is beauty to behold

130 diamonda2u  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:14:31pm

re: #121 Jdorfma4

I don't understand why the media plays the gotcha game about the consulate. So the original reports were wrong. Those things happen. New data came out and we identified the real culprits. What is wrong with that? The issue would be if the administration continued to deny the truth after it was discovered. They didn't. This is how adults act and they acted correctly.

Especially with this situation actually still ongoing, still being investigated and still a big problem.... if Dem's had done this a month after 9-11 the Repubs would have lost their freaking mind and hung soemone

131 engineer cat  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:14:33pm

re: #115 diamonda2u

STUMPED!! Great.. Ryan stumped a little there

he should be easy to stump since he is yet another moron who has passed himself off as teh smart

132 moderatelyradicalliberal  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:14:50pm

re: #124 Blackity Black Black!

They hate her already (Daily Caller) Funny how they go after the females (Gwen Ifill, anyone?)

They went after Gwen because they accused her of being biased for Obama because they are both blah.

133 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:14:51pm

Iran's no joke, but I'm really sick of everyone saying Iran's the most dangerous country on earth when Pakistan already has 1) Taliban; 2) Al Qaeda; 3) a military intelligence service packed full of 1 and 2; 3) a horrendously unstable government; and 3) nuclear weapons.

134 Major Tom  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:14:52pm

This is specific?

135 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:14:55pm

The moderator is not letting Ryan get away with much. Joe is going to eat Ryan alive.

136 Petero1818  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:15:06pm

Iran has been building a nuke for 20 years. Not one administration did crap until BO. He has done more on sanctions on Iran than any previous administration.

137 JamesWI  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:15:26pm

Good lord, Ryan is so full of shit and just terrible. The media better not blow him after the debate like they did Romney.

138 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:16:11pm

Joe just patted Ryan on the head and sent him to bed with no dessert.

139 Targetpractice  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:16:14pm

*facepalm*

140 DisturbedEma  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:16:21pm

re: #130 diamonda2u

Because waiting to hear the facts, investigation, and calm reasoned response to such an awful event is NOT what they want- shoot first, question never. . .grrrr that mentality drives me nuts!

141 Obdicut  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:16:26pm

Wow. How'd they pull this off?

Google image search for "Completely wrong".

142 Jdorfma4  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:16:43pm

I love when Joe calls him a moron and a liar in no uncertain terms but he needs to be careful not to come off as an ass. Undecideds hate conflict. Obama knew that in the last debate and went too far the other way, I hope Biden doesn't go too far the other way to compensate. In the end the debates are about, sadly, optics, not substance.

143 Lidane  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:17:01pm

Not watching the debate, but a wingnut friend of mine is blowing up my FB feed with all his tweets about everything Biden says.

I'm half tempted to hide his updates until after the election. Oy.

144 freetoken  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:17:02pm

re: #141 Obdicut

Google rules the universe.

145 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:17:05pm

The big thing Joe has going for him is his great smile and he looks like the wise old hand. He keeps referring to Ryan as my friend..sticking the knife in and twisting it in.

146 Major Tom  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:17:14pm

Joe does have to ease up, let the facts speak for themselves. The right wing will try to make hay out of his pearly whites. ...All and all he's impressing the hell out of me so far.

147 Obdicut  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:17:27pm

re: #142 Jdorfma4

In the end the debates are about, sadly, optics, not substance.

This is often asserted as fact. Does anyone actually have any reason to think this is fact?

148 Sionainn  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:17:38pm

Ryan is weak, weak, weak. LOL.

149 DisturbedEma  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:17:46pm

re: #137 JamesWI

I know, the dynamic between Romney and Ryan is like Mermaid Man and Barnicle Boy. . .Eeeeeevil. . .:) I don't know why the media continues to buy into this crap

150 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:17:51pm

He just sounded like NJHockey dude.

151 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:17:54pm

re: #141 Obdicut

Wow. How'd they pull this off?

Google image search for "Completely wrong".

That is just fucking great!

152 Petero1818  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:17:58pm

Yes Ryan is an expert on the Ayatollah mindset

153 moderatelyradicalliberal  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:18:01pm

re: #142 Jdorfma4

I love when Joe calls him a moron and a liar in no uncertain terms but he needs to be careful not to come off as an ass. Undecideds hate conflict. Obama knew that in the last debate and went too far the other way, I hope Biden doesn't go too far the other way to compensate. In the end the debates are about, sadly, optics, not substance.

Joe is doing just fine on both style and substance.

154 DisturbedEma  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:18:15pm

re: #143 Lidane

I just did that with my family. . .and did not suffer a single pang of guilt:)

155 Targetpractice  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:18:21pm

I absolutely love this moderator.

156 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:18:26pm

Joe is drinking Ryan's milkshake.

157 diamonda2u  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:18:38pm

She's good!!!!!

158 Major Tom  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:18:47pm

Ryan is showing a too belligerent foreign policy... oh this is getting good...

159 Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:18:52pm

Another idea on my wish list, a Biden v Romney debate. I think Biden would shred Romney.

160 diamonda2u  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:19:00pm

re: #155 Targetpractice

I absolutely love this moderator.

Me too!!!

161 Killgore Trout  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:19:12pm
162 steve_davis  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:19:19pm

re: #16 elizajane

I cannot watch this or possibly any other debate ever. The trauma from watching the last one almost killed me. I'm just going to live vicariously through the reactions here. Let me know when I need to drink.

I feel exactly the same way. If Biden winds up doing badly, could everyone just lie for the next 90 minutes and tell me things are going well? Just consider it your tribute to the Romney/Ryan ticket.

163 Gus  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:19:20pm
164 Daniel Ballard  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:19:29pm

re: #103 Blackity Black Black!

OT, I couldn't respond to you today about the CA amendments. But that was the easy one.

Working my way through the ballot. Voted to re-elect our President, a personal first. (Re-Elect Dem Prez)

I can't seem to dig into 32 enough to make a good call. So, when in doubt, NO.

165 moderatelyradicalliberal  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:19:52pm

re: #155 Targetpractice

I absolutely love this moderator.

Me too. She may have been this good anyway, but I don't think she wanted to look like a clueless old fool like Jim Lehrer. I lost a lot of respect for him.

166 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:19:56pm

re: #152 Petero1818

Yes Ryan is an expert on the Ayatollah mindset

As the right wing fantasizes.

167 Major Tom  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:19:56pm

"It's Irish"

168 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:20:29pm

re: #164 Daniel Ballard

good call, 32 is bad.

169 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:20:33pm

GO JOE.

I love him.

170 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:20:46pm

Biden openly laughing at Ryan now.

171 diamonda2u  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:20:58pm

Facts matter!!!

172 Decatur Deb  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:21:04pm

We don' need no steenkin' facts.

173 nines09  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:21:07pm

YELLOWCAKE!!!

174 Mark Winter  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:21:08pm

Once again an outsider's view from Germany.
I love the smell of freshly burnt panties in a very early morning and they sure ain't Biden's.

175 steve_davis  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:21:24pm

re: #40 freetoken

Oh yes.

However, at the gym this afternoon I didn't see anyone quite like that. I wonder why?

You mean, a middle-aged man with a backwards pink baseball cap on his head? That was because they are all out at the playgrounds, trying to pick up small, unattended children.

176 mr.fusion  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:21:31pm

Thank God for Joe Biden

177 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:21:45pm

Ryan thought he was going to debate Onion Joe and is going to end up crying.

178 Tigger2  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:21:47pm

re: #170 Charles Johnson

Biden openly laughing at Ryan now.

Ryan deserves being laughed at.

179 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:21:58pm

Ryan just insulted the REPUBLICAN sec def...

180 Killgore Trout  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:22:01pm

re: #170 Charles Johnson

Biden openly laughing at Ryan now.

They should have coached him about making faces too much.

181 nines09  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:22:19pm

Ryan; "Well if you're so tough why is Iran still there?" Biden; "WTF"?

182 JamesWI  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:22:23pm

re: #180 Killgore Trout

They should have coached him about making faces too much.

You're so very concerned about his face.

183 moderatelyradicalliberal  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:22:24pm

FACTS MATTER!!!!!!

Do you hear that MSM? Well do ya?

That should be your line too PBO!

184 sagehen  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:22:26pm

Did Ryan just say ROBERT GATES was showing weakness?

185 Major Tom  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:22:28pm

re: #180 Killgore Trout

Don't enjoy beating him.

186 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:22:44pm

THE GREAT SATAN IS BACK

187 Petero1818  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:22:50pm

yes. Russia watered it down. It was either watered down or non existant.

188 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:23:08pm

re: #184 sagehen

yes, yes he did.

189 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:23:12pm

He changes his mind so often, I could be wrong.

190 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:23:16pm

Joe just made a multiple choice mitt hit.

191 Targetpractice  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:23:16pm

Joe is sounding more and more like Jack Nicholson.

192 diamonda2u  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:23:25pm

re: #189 Our Precious Bodily Fluids

He changes his mind so often, I could be wrong.

BOOM!!!

193 bratwurst  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:23:29pm
194 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:23:41pm

re: #189 Our Precious Bodily Fluids

bitchslap

195 diamonda2u  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:23:49pm

HIt him on the obstruction Joe!!!!!

196 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:24:14pm

re: #193 bratwurst

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l o l

197 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:24:43pm

CAn we have Joe retroactively debate Romney last week? This is the debate Obama should have had.

198 elizajane  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:24:52pm

re: #173 nines09

YELLOWCAKE!!!

Can I drink now?

199 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:24:56pm

47%!!!!!

200 Decatur Deb  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:25:07pm

Taxes, Mitt?

201 JamesWI  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:25:07pm

47% percent, 30% are takers.....he's hitting him on all fronts

202 Targetpractice  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:25:09pm

Holy hell, why couldn't we have seen Obama with this sort of energy last week?

Go get'em, Joe!

203 freetoken  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:25:14pm

Joe goes for blood.

204 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:25:16pm

Grover Norquist!

205 bubba zanetti  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:25:18pm

Heh, NPR is running a backchannel for the debate:

[Link: apps.npr.org...]

Twitter feed, anigifs, plus their own quick comment thingee.

206 steve_davis  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:25:21pm

re: #111 danarchy

CNN has one of those undecided voter graphs on the screen. I have never seen one go as negative as it did on Joe's last answer. Not sure why.

Because at this stage, "undecided" is another word for "my ass is actually smarter than anything in my head."

207 moderatelyradicalliberal  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:25:22pm

Go Joe! Go!

Get them! Get them! Bring up the 47%.

208 diamonda2u  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:25:24pm

Joe is on a freakin' ROLLLLLLLL

209 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:25:25pm

LOL Joe.

Yellow Dog Democrat.

210 Majacita  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:25:33pm

I'm not watching, but I am reading this blog and I feel great!

211 nines09  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:25:37pm

Slap.Slap.Slap Slap. Babeeee.

212 Killgore Trout  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:25:42pm

Joe's doing better now.

213 RadicalModerate  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:25:44pm

Oh wow. The gloves are freaking OFF with Biden.

214 Petero1818  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:25:47pm

Boy is there anything Joe isnt going to touch on?

215 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:25:51pm

re: #202 Targetpractice

Holy hell, why couldn't we have seen Obama with this sort of energy last week?

Go get'em, Joe!

If he had, we'd have heard nothing but "ANGRY BLACK MAN" 24/7.

216 JamesWI  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:25:54pm

CNN's undecided voters loving this section for Biden

217 nines09  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:26:04pm

re: #212 Killgore Trout

Nice try.

218 Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:26:06pm

Holy Cow... Biden!

219 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:26:06pm

God damn Joe makes me glad to be a democrat.

220 krypto  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:26:11pm

47% Drink!

221 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:26:11pm

GO JOE!!!

222 diamonda2u  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:26:15pm

Ummm and you grew up RICH!!!!! Ryan you shit

223 Mark Winter  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:26:23pm

Ah yes Joe, just a perfect answer

224 Targetpractice  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:26:24pm

re: #215 Our Precious Bodily Fluids

If he had, we'd have heard nothing but "ANGRY BLACK MAN" 24/7.

Fuck'em, "Scary Black Man" has no weight compared to getting the facts on the table.

225 bluecheese  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:26:31pm

lol

"It's going down"

226 Decatur Deb  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:26:35pm

re: #215 Our Precious Bodily Fluids

If he had, we'd have heard nothing but "ANGRY BLACK MAN" 24/7.

The Irish invented "angry man".

227 diamonda2u  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:26:44pm

Let him talk Joe and then correct him...

228 Petero1818  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:26:53pm

good for Joe to cut him off. It was a blatant lie.

229 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:26:58pm

Joe is gonna own make him cry before the night is over.

230 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:26:59pm

re: #215 Our Precious Bodily Fluids

If he had, we'd have heard nothing but "ANGRY BLACK MAN" 24/7.

We had it the evening before the debate. Remember people? Thus my nic.

231 HappyWarrior  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:27:01pm

Glad to see that Joe's doing well. The campaign needed that.

232 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:27:04pm
233 Jdorfma4  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:27:08pm

I love that Ryan said unemployment is going up when the moderator just pointed out its going down. Perfect chance for Joe to come back screaming FACTS MATTER!

234 sauceruney  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:27:23pm

Grover Norquist. He's a Sesame Street muppet, isn't he?

235 nines09  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:27:27pm

re: #232 Charles Johnson

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He would be correct.

236 freetoken  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:27:27pm

re: #231 HappyWarrior

Well, Kilgore thinks he's smirking too much.

237 Petero1818  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:27:42pm

re: #233 Jdorfma4

I love that Ryan said unemployment is going up when the moderator just pointed out its going down. Perfect chance for Joe to come back screaming FACTS MATTER!

hw will start with facts matter.

238 Decatur Deb  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:27:47pm

re: #232 Charles Johnson

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Biden is teetering on the brink of openly calling Ryan a liar.

Why the hell not?

239 moderatelyradicalliberal  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:27:52pm

re: #202 Targetpractice

Holy hell, why couldn't we have seen Obama with this sort of energy last week?

Go get'em, Joe!

Imagine Joe Biden black and ask yourself if it would really work out as well for him?

I'm sorry to say it but, Joe and Bill Clinton are Barack Obama's ambassadors to white people because he can say things that he can't say and say it in a different way.

240 Sionainn  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:27:52pm

Mitt Romney is a "car guy"? What?!? Like a used car salesman?

241 Tigger2  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:27:59pm

re: #232 Charles Johnson

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He is a liar just Like Romney.

242 Mark Winter  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:28:03pm

Ok, that good bottle needs to be opened now. Biden's right on track to show people what a jerk would be a heartbeat away from a wannabe president

243 kirkspencer  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:28:04pm

re: #236 freetoken

Well, Kilgore thinks he's smirking too much.

Weird, that seems to be one of the constants at places like the Corner.

244 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:28:05pm

oh shit, Ryan went with the car crash thing. Them's fightin' words.

245 diamonda2u  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:28:06pm

Now they have pre-existing conditions and they can';t get care under ROmney's plan

246 JamesWI  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:28:13pm

Undecided voters not loving his sob story.

247 Daniel Ballard  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:28:14pm

re: #234 sauceruney

Cookie Monster, right?

248 bratwurst  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:28:16pm

"Mitt Romney is a car guy"

(he owns so many he had to build a freaking ELEVATOR for them!)

249 Petero1818  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:28:17pm

I think trying to make Mitt out to be a "car guy" is not going to work well.

250 Gus  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:28:20pm

WTF is this BS?

251 Lidane  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:28:27pm

re: #240 Sionainn

Mitt Romney is a "car guy"? What?!? Like a used car salesman?

A used car salesman doesn't lie as blatantly as Romney does.

252 diamonda2u  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:28:34pm

Uhh, he gave 30%of his income to the MORMON cult... let's be honest here

253 RadicalModerate  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:28:44pm

Yeah. Romney is is a "car guy".

However that "car guy" that he emulates is a used-car salesman.

254 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:28:50pm

re: #240 Sionainn

Mitt Romney is a "car guy"? What?!? Like a used car salesman?

That was the LOL, then he went into the SAD STORY. (tuned out)

255 diamonda2u  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:29:36pm

That was stupid of Ryan to bring up car accident... wtf

256 Lidane  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:29:51pm
257 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:29:55pm

re: #240 Sionainn

Mitt Romney is a "car guy"? What?!? Like a used car salesman?

258 diamonda2u  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:29:55pm

Go JOe!!!

259 nines09  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:30:04pm

"Hey, did you hear what Romney said? Me neither!" Biden. Slap.

260 Petero1818  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:30:06pm

re: #255 diamonda2u

That was stupid of Ryan to bring up car accident... wtf

totally agree.

261 Gus  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:30:22pm
262 Sionainn  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:30:22pm

"I've never met two guys who were more down on America." BOOM!

263 mr.fusion  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:30:31pm

Calling them out on their pessimistic rhetoric!

That seriously got me sexually aroused

264 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:30:36pm

This is a pretty great performance from Biden.

265 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:30:40pm

OH man! Joe just took him apart ....Show Me!

266 Petero1818  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:30:43pm

he needs to go back to the fact that unemployment is DOWN

267 Jdorfma4  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:30:43pm

Damn Joe, don't let the lie about unemployment going up go unmentioned. As a former college debator I know how hard it is to keep all your thoughts together and listen and be strategic but that was a huge opportunity to get a moment that will be replayed a lot "Ryan just lied to the American people about a statistic they heard 30 seconds ago!"

268 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:30:48pm

Joe going at the congress now and Paul Ryan as well.

269 Majacita  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:30:48pm

I think I am going to watch this tomorrow on C span.

270 Mark Winter  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:30:59pm

Show me something! Another punch line

271 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:31:10pm

Cough

272 Targetpractice  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:31:15pm

"One party control," MY ASS!

273 diamonda2u  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:31:20pm

Joe got him... JOE!!!!

274 I Am Kreniigh!  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:31:22pm

"You built those wars."

275 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:31:31pm

re: #270 Mark Winter

Show me something! Another punch line

ryan is joes punching bag

276 moderatelyradicalliberal  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:31:37pm

Talk about obstruction Joe. He's left the door open.

277 Killgore Trout  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:31:49pm

re: #264 Charles Johnson

This is a pretty great performance from Biden.

He's doing pretty well so far.

278 Majacita  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:31:53pm

Has Ryan got in a single point?

279 krypto  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:31:53pm

Gads! Biden is good!

280 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:31:56pm

Where's the plan

pdf?

281 RadicalModerate  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:32:08pm

It's not "one party control" when the Republicans were using every legislative trick in the book to keep bills from coming up for votes.

282 Gus  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:32:27pm

Boom!

283 diamonda2u  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:32:33pm

BAMMMMMM!!!!

284 Iwouldprefernotto  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:32:37pm

Losing Internet connection. Thanks for keeping my sane (or trying to).

285 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:32:47pm

ryan is finding its hard to argue with facts

286 Lidane  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:32:50pm

Thirty years in the Senate = Biden knows how to debate.

All these comments make me want to watch this tomorrow on C-SPAN.

287 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:32:53pm

BAM!

288 nines09  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:32:53pm

Ryan has stepped in shit and trying not to stink.

289 I Am Kreniigh!  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:33:00pm

HA HA own that stimulus request Ryan

290 bratwurst  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:33:07pm

Any way Biden can find the time to give Obama some debating pointers this weekend?

291 steve_davis  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:33:15pm

re: #248 bratwurst

"Mitt Romney is a car guy"

(he owns so many he had to build a freaking ELEVATOR for them!)

Because even his cars are too good to use the damned stairs!

292 Petero1818  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:33:23pm

he was for the bridge before he was against it.

293 diamonda2u  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:33:26pm

Be a little more candid!!

294 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:33:28pm

Ryan is not going to win this one, Biden had him nailed to the wall.

295 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:33:28pm

Wow, Biden is on fire.

296 Lidane  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:33:41pm
297 diamonda2u  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:33:43pm

Joe has him, he got him where he wants him!!! Keep going Joe!!

298 moderatelyradicalliberal  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:33:45pm

Got him on the hypocrisy!

And he's laughing at him. Openly!

299 RadicalModerate  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:33:53pm

Just tell the... be a little more candid!

300 engineer cat  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:33:55pm

i couldn't help but tune in

BARACK PLEASE TAKE NOTES!

301 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:34:06pm

re: #295 Charles Johnson

Wow, Biden is on fire.

Smart man, with facts.

302 bluecheese  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:34:30pm

Ryan is having such a hard time cause he is on the wrong side of the issues.

303 DREd  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:34:33pm

I've mostly been watching the Yankees, but Biden just absolutely destroyed Ryan on asking for stimulus money.

304 I Am Kreniigh!  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:34:35pm

When Ryan walks outside later, Nelson Muntz is going to be there pointing at him and saying "HA-ha!"

305 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:34:40pm

Medicare.

Talk to me, the person who will get the voucher.

306 diamonda2u  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:34:43pm

re: #299 RadicalModerate

Just tell the... be a little more candid!

That was the best line!!!

307 moderatelyradicalliberal  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:34:53pm

re: #301 Blackity Black Black!

Smart man, with facts.

Nobody will talking about Joe being a stupid gaff machine after this.

308 Targetpractice  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:34:54pm

Prediction: Media portrays Biden as "angry old man," declares Ryan "won" the debate because he didn't break down into tears on live TV.

309 makeitstop  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:35:04pm

Ryan is friggin' annoying.

310 researchok  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:35:05pm

Twilight Zone episode so far:

Round one: Romney over deer in headlights Obama.

Round two: Biden over deer in headlights Ryan.

Tiebreaker upcoming.

311 Jdorfma4  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:35:07pm

Biden was born in 1942. He'd be 74 in 2016. How old was Reagan in his first term? I've never been more impressed with Biden. Never.

312 Lidane  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:35:14pm
313 diamonda2u  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:35:24pm

So wtf... Rich Ryan and his wife took his Grandma...they are rich and she was getting medicare?? Rich people piss me off sometimes with their whining and not taking care of their families but dumping them on the system.

314 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:35:28pm

This is epic.

315 Tigger2  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:35:32pm

Well just screw the younger people, Ryan you're a joke.

316 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:35:54pm

DEATH PANELS

317 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:36:02pm

Damn, I don't know how anyone can think Ryan is winning this debate at all, even the right wing has to admit Ryan's getting taken to the cleaners.

Jesus Ryan is going for the Death Panel lie and the 716 million lie..joe's gonna take him apart limb from limb.

318 JamesWI  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:36:03pm

Undecided voters not liking Ryan once he started talking about the $716 billion bullshit

319 Major Tom  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:36:03pm

Joe Biden: Happy Warrior

320 makeitstop  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:36:20pm

Biden looks like he's fighting to keep from busting out laughing.

321 Decatur Deb  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:36:24pm

re: #316 Blackity Black Black!

DEATH PANELS

DERP PANELS

322 Lidane  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:36:26pm
323 Targetpractice  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:36:38pm

re: #317 Mr. Crankypants

Damn, I don't know how anyone can think Ryan is winning this debate at all, even the right wing has to admit Ryan's getting taken to the cleaners.

Jesus Ryan is going for the Death Panel lie and the 716 million lie..joe's gonna take him apart limb from limb.

They'll believe he's winning because he's got Joe "angry," as though that's not the man's natural state of being.

324 nines09  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:36:43pm

Ryan; "We have to loot Social Security to save it!?

325 Petero1818  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:36:51pm

OK Joe this is an important answer coming up. Show you can abuse him on his own turf.

326 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:36:58pm

re: #319 Major Tom

Biden SMASH!!!!


Headline prediction: RELEASE THE BIDEN!

327 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:37:20pm
328 JamesWI  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:37:28pm

Intrade stocks blowing up.

Started around 60/39 in favor of Obama. Now it's 63.4/36.7. Those guys clearly think Biden is winning.

Let's see the media spin this one.

329 freetoken  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:37:29pm

Joe turns to the camera and speaks to the voters.

Finally.

330 RadicalModerate  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:37:30pm

Biden shout out to Half-term Palin.

331 diamonda2u  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:37:32pm

Get him Joe for complaining about the 716 that he himself would cut...

332 Lidane  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:37:33pm
333 DisturbedEma  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:38:15pm

re: #312 Lidane

Green Pork was the oddest thing ever. . .really??? Green pork? Shesh

334 makeitstop  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:38:16pm

Yeah, Biden is a gaffe machine.
/////

335 moderatelyradicalliberal  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:38:33pm

re: #310 researchok

Twilight Zone episode so far:

Round one: Romney over deer in headlights Obama.

Round two: Biden over deer in headlights.

Tiebreaker upcoming.

It will be a town hall. Obama will win. He didn't like what happen in the 1st debate. It won't happen again.

336 Petero1818  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:38:48pm

Follow your instincts.....classic

337 diamonda2u  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:38:50pm

Best line of the night... tell seniors about money in the market...can't lose!!!

338 DisturbedEma  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:38:56pm

re: #327 Charles Johnson

Roasted!!!!!

339 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:39:09pm

re: #333 DisturbedEma

you'll have to forgive ryan, he was reading green eggs and ham before the debate.

340 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:39:24pm

Ryan said 716 Billion! He said Billion.

What a fucking tool. Joe is eating his lunch.

341 diamonda2u  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:39:26pm

He's got RYan!

342 bratwurst  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:39:33pm
343 I Am Kreniigh!  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:39:37pm

Biden just mwuh-mwuh-mwuh'd Ryan.

344 makeitstop  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:39:40pm

Laughs in his face. Kickass.

345 nines09  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:40:02pm

Ryan; It will only kill the people that come after you!

346 moderatelyradicalliberal  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:40:07pm

It's over. Ryan just let his inner asshole out.

And this moderator's questions are awesome!

347 Petero1818  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:40:14pm

Good for Joe. Give no ground. Don't let him get the lies out of his mouth.

348 Lidane  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:40:40pm
349 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:40:51pm

Ryan getting totally flustered now.

350 Mark Winter  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:40:54pm

Under duress???
Even last bumkin in that room can see that Biden is anything but under duress. He's enjoying this a bit too much maybe, but it's hard not to

351 makeitstop  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:41:00pm

This is brutal. Biden isn't giving an inch.

352 DisturbedEma  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:41:17pm

re: #339 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Ahhh so he is not interested in my Jewish vote:) Sorry, but when my oldest son was in pre school, his teacher asked him to read the story and he riffed a bit- Will you try green eggs and ham? No, I'm Jewish, the end :) He's 26 now:)

353 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:41:22pm

re: #346 moderatelyradicalliberal

It's over. Ryan just let his inner asshole out.

And this moderator's questions are awesome!

The Right is going to crucify her tomorrow over a wedding.

354 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:41:38pm

Biden has a good bullshit detector, and he has no tolerance for it.

355 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:41:44pm

Statesman

356 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:41:56pm

re: #351 makeitstop

This is brutal. Biden isn't giving an inch.

Biden is a brawler.

357 Major Tom  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:42:05pm

re: #355 Blackity Black Black!

Statesman

That's the difference.

358 nines09  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:42:11pm

Joe knows his shit and he just and is continuing to light Ryan up like a Down Town Christmas Tree.

359 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:42:15pm

Voucher program: Groupons for Grandma.

360 Petero1818  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:42:19pm

re: #353 Blackity Black Black!

The Right is going to crucify her tomorrow over a wedding.

She opened with "major intelligence failure" What are they gonna say?

361 Tigger2  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:42:22pm

If you keep on Ryan and keep on Ryan he doesn't know what to do or say he's terrible under pressure.

362 I Am Kreniigh!  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:42:27pm

How old was Ryan when Biden did the things he's talking about now?

363 diamonda2u  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:42:29pm

Joe is 'da man!!!!!

364 DisturbedEma  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:42:31pm

re: #356 Charles Johnson

Agreed

365 diamonda2u  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:42:39pm

Ryan has no answers!!!

366 Mocking Jay  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:42:40pm

$20 says Biden's chest is oiled under that suit.

367 JamesWI  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:42:44pm

Ryan's reverting back to scripted bullshit now. He's running scared

368 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:42:53pm

Oh yeah, there's a moderator too.

369 Lidane  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:42:54pm

New internet meme: Joe Biden laughing in Paul Ryan's face.

370 HappyWarrior  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:42:58pm

Always thought people underestimated Biden.

371 Major Tom  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:43:02pm

That is the second time ryan has trailed off...

372 Majacita  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:43:12pm

Wow this is going fast!

373 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:43:17pm

WONKY

374 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:43:17pm

She just nailed ryan on SS privatization.

375 Jdorfma4  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:43:24pm

What I love about Joe is I can totally imagine him going backstage, high fiving his staff, grabbing a beer, and screaming "Daddy wrecked that shit!"

376 mr.fusion  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:43:25pm

The FCC might have to fine networks for showing Biden fornicating Ryan on live TV

377 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:43:29pm

Joe is not just running circles around Ryan, he's popping wheelies and honking the low-rider horn that plays La Cucaracha.

378 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:43:30pm

Raise the retirement age. Keep 'em working till they're 80. If they can find jobs that is.

379 Lidane  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:43:32pm

re: #370 HappyWarrior

Always thought people underestimated Biden.

They do. They think he's just a gaffe machine that says "literally" too much. He's a shark.

380 DisturbedEma  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:43:33pm

re: #366 Mocking Jay

Tribal Tat on his chest. . .extra $20 :)

381 nines09  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:43:35pm

re: #370 HappyWarrior

Always thought people underestimated Biden.

Joe is no fool.

382 Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:43:41pm

Biden needs to let Ryan talk and hang himself. The interrupting is getting annoying.

383 sagehen  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:43:43pm

re: #353 Blackity Black Black!

The Right is going to crucify her tomorrow over a wedding.

You mean because 20 years ago her now ex-husband invited a co-worker who's now the boss of the guy she was moderating? Sure, that's close.

384 Major Tom  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:43:51pm

Tourists walking by the west wing can hear laughter

385 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:44:03pm

OMG

386 Lidane  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:44:15pm

re: #377 Our Precious Bodily Fluids

Joe is not just running circles around Ryan, he's popping wheelies and honking the low-rider horn that plays La Cucaracha.

HAHAHAHA. That's awesome. If I'd been drinking anything, you'd owe me a new laptop.

387 Killgore Trout  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:44:22pm
388 makeitstop  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:44:37pm

Ryan is so over his head.

389 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:44:39pm

re: #369 Lidane

New internet meme: Joe Biden laughing in Paul Ryan's face.

I'm thinking along the lines of the "put the frosted flakes back in the box" Palin/Biden meme.

Tuned away from post-season baseball to watch for a few minutes... Biden looks to be killing it. :) Ryan can't hide the Inner Douche forever.

390 Targetpractice  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:44:49pm

I've noticed that Ryan starts pushing the "trying to scare you!" bit whenever he's losing the topic at hand.

391 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:44:54pm

Ryan fights back well and Biden interrupts nastily.

392 b_sharp  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:44:55pm

So. Things are going OK?

393 nines09  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:45:04pm

Paul Ryan is being bitch slapped with reality.

394 I Am Kreniigh!  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:45:05pm

Biden doesn't have a record to run on? Didn't you just hear him talking about how long he's been working on this stuff?

395 diamonda2u  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:45:12pm

Good question!

396 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:45:14pm

re: #391 Dark_Falcon

then Biden is winning.

397 Major Tom  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:45:18pm

I might just tune in to Fox to hear Britt Hume sound (more like) he's going to hang himself.

398 mr.fusion  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:45:18pm

"I gave you a simple answer, they want to take away Medicare"

BOOM

399 Sionainn  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:45:20pm

How long is this debate?

400 Targetpractice  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:45:23pm

re: #391 Dark_Falcon

Ryan fights back well and Biden interrupts nastily.

That's called controlling the debate.

401 Lidane  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:45:26pm
402 HappyWarrior  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:45:30pm

re: #381 nines09

Joe is no fool.

I've been saying that since the minute people laughed when Obama chose him.

403 makeitstop  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:45:33pm

re: #391 Dark_Falcon

Ryan fights back well and Biden interrupts nastily.

LOL

404 Petero1818  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:45:41pm

re: #391 Dark_Falcon

Ryan fights back well and Biden interrupts nastily.

are you on crack?

405 moderatelyradicalliberal  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:45:44pm

Is it just me or did the 1st debate not allow for this kind of conversation? Was the moderator that damn bad? You see how this woman isn't letting Ryan lie and letting Joe respond in full? Obama could've won this kind of format.

406 DisturbedEma  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:45:50pm

re: #392 reflections of a raging redneck

Depends on who you ask. If you believe what you see, yes, if you believe what might be in the papers tomorrow, welllllll

407 Lidane  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:45:55pm

re: #404 Petero1818

are you on crack?

No, he's a Republican.

408 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:45:57pm

Joe is just tearing re: #399 Sionainn

How long is this debate?

Ryan probably feels like it;s already been 6 hours

409 mr.fusion  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:45:58pm

re: #399 Sionainn

How long is this debate?

Not long enough if you're the Obama campaign

410 steve_davis  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:46:00pm

re: #366 Mocking Jay

$20 says Biden's chest is oiled under that suit.

Just be thankful Biden was able to hitchhike to the debate in time! :-) This would have been a disaster if he'd had to teleconference his part from the cab of a semi out on I95.

411 nines09  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:46:04pm

re: #399 Sionainn

How long is this debate?

The rest of your life.

412 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:46:14pm

re: #399 Sionainn

How long is this debate?

If you're Paul Ryan, it never, ever, ever ends.

413 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:46:14pm

'million, billion' says Carl Sagan Joe Biden.

414 JamesWI  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:46:39pm
415 DisturbedEma  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:46:39pm

re: #404 Petero1818

Why no, he's not- it's the kool aid, sorry DF but really???? Come ON!

416 Tigger2  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:46:50pm

re: #391 Dark_Falcon

Ryan fights back well and Biden interrupts nastily.

Kind of like Romeny was doing the last debate.

417 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:47:04pm

Facts matter.

This is a massive win for Biden. He came to play.

418 JamesWI  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:47:05pm

re: #391 Dark_Falcon

Ryan fights back well and Biden interrupts nastily.

LOL.....someone's smarting from the beating their team is taking.

419 Lidane  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:47:07pm

Hahahaha:

The truth hurts, I guess. Go Joe! BIDEN SMASH! :D

420 Targetpractice  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:47:08pm

Ah, what I so wanted to tune into tonight: Paul Ryan getting that smile wiped off his face.

421 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:47:09pm

re: #391 Dark_Falcon

Ryan fights back well and Biden interrupts nastily.

Says the guy who actually praised Romney for lying.

422 Sionainn  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:47:11pm

re: #391 Dark_Falcon

Ryan fights back well and Biden interrupts nastily.

LOL!

423 makeitstop  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:47:14pm

Little hot over there, Dark?

The Wonk is getting pantsed.

424 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:47:16pm

re: #413 Dark_Falcon

'million, billion' says Carl Sagan Joe Biden.

Ryan said "Obamacare cutes 716 Billion from Medicare." Billion, not million.

425 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:47:16pm

re: #404 Petero1818

are you on crack?

No, but I'll crack you across the mouth if you like.

426 krypto  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:47:34pm

Fire Kerry!!!! Get Biden to coach Obama for his next debate.

427 nines09  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:47:41pm

re: #419 Lidane

Boo Hoo. Facts.

428 sagehen  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:47:45pm

re: #399 Sionainn

How long is this debate?

we're barely halfway through.

429 Petero1818  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:47:48pm

re: #425 Dark_Falcon

No, but I'll crack you across the mouth if you like.

Come and get it!

430 Targetpractice  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:47:54pm

The "Not Enough Rich People" lie.

431 JamesWI  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:48:05pm

Ryan talking numbers, undecided voters are dropping him on the CNN meter.

432 Major Tom  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:48:05pm

Ryan needs a hailmary... He may need to shed a tear.

433 moderatelyradicalliberal  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:48:06pm

Oh another thing. Ryan is losing because he's sticking to what he has said in the past. Romney lied about everything. Biden is getting to debate who he expected to debate.

434 mr.fusion  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:48:06pm
435 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:48:11pm

I just got here, I was at Gibson's having dinner.

436 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:48:29pm

Opening: Caymens & car garages

437 Targetpractice  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:48:42pm

re: #435 Dark_Falcon

I just got here, I was at Gibson's having dinner.

Any good?

438 DisturbedEma  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:48:43pm

re: #425 Dark_Falcon

Really???? I thought you were better than that. . .disappointed

439 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:48:52pm

TAX THE WALTONS!

Stop talking about "small business." Tax the fucking Waltons. Just send them a bill for all the Medicaid and food stamps that their employees are forced to take.

440 diamonda2u  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:49:02pm

Charles M. Blow ‏@CharlesMBlow

Ryan keeps sipping from that cup. What's in that cup?! Let me find out... #sippycup #VPdebate

441 Lidane  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:49:03pm
442 makeitstop  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:49:04pm

That Maher tweet is the best.

443 JamesWI  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:49:05pm

re: #435 Dark_Falcon

I just got here, I was at Gibson's having dinner.

Then you have missed a hell of a debate.....just not for your guy.

444 bluecheese  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:49:06pm

close what loopholes?

445 Petero1818  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:49:28pm

re: #438 DisturbedEma

Really???? I thought you were better than that. . .disappointed

Cut him some slack. He is having a rough night.

446 diamonda2u  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:49:35pm

Do you have the specifics!!!

447 Targetpractice  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:49:41pm

I love this woman!

448 DisturbedEma  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:49:42pm

re: #432 Major Tom

Replacement refs vote too. . .oh wait, still mad about my Packers, sorry. . .All hail the Fail Mary //

449 JamesWI  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:49:49pm

You have refused to say any specifics.....

Hello Jim Lehrer.....this is what you were supposed to do last week

450 b_sharp  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:50:04pm

re: #419 Lidane

Hahahaha:

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The truth hurts, I guess. Go Joe! BIDEN SMASH! :D

Biden say "Puny Ryan"!

451 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:50:05pm

I guess I'm listening to the debate from the other room.

Are they going to disuss how cost-free contraception and comprehensive education affects a nations economics?

if not, I'm going to listen to my audio book. David Brin. It's not a very tough decision is it?

452 bluecheese  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:50:12pm

what loopholes?

453 freetoken  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:50:12pm

re: #447 Targetpractice

I love this woman!

I don't.

454 diamonda2u  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:50:16pm

Which loopholes and deductions!!!

455 JamesWI  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:50:20pm

CNN's undecided voters not buying Ryan's bullshit here.

456 Lidane  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:50:23pm
457 nines09  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:50:24pm

re: #449 JamesWI

You have refused to say any specifics.....

Hello Jim Lehrer.....this is what you were supposed to do last week

Jim should be taping....

458 engineer cat  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:50:27pm

no, the answer is no, you do not have the specifics

keep on it and make him admit he will not tell you how he'll do it

459 Killgore Trout  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:50:35pm

re: #417 Charles Johnson

Facts matter.

Yes, they do, that's why Biden is making gains by wording his claims properly. Not "destroying medicare" or "killing Big Bird". He's making factually acurate statements, there's no need to exaggerate with hyperbole.

460 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:50:47pm

Biden's an asshole. Paul Ryan should be laying down one or two tax code changes, though.

461 diamonda2u  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:50:48pm

ROFL!!! This is good.. Let me translate that...ROFL

462 DisturbedEma  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:51:11pm

re: #445 Petero1818

Ok, I guess. . .sigh

463 JamesWI  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:51:27pm

re: #460 Dark_Falcon

Biden's an asshole. Paul Ryan should be laying down one or two tax code changes, though.

I can practically hear the tear drops hitting your keyboard.

464 engineer cat  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:51:29pm

ASKING YOU TO BUY A PIG IN A POKE

please say it

465 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:51:33pm

re: #438 DisturbedEma

Really???? I thought you were better than that. . .disappointed

He insulted me. I'd never actually smack him in real life.

466 diamonda2u  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:51:35pm

Go Joe! Go Joe! Go Joe!!

467 makeitstop  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:51:38pm

re: #460 Dark_Falcon

Biden's an asshole. Paul Ryan should be laying down one or two tax code changes, though.

He's shredding your asshole.

468 The Mongoose  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:51:47pm

re: #460 Dark_Falcon

Biden's an asshole. Paul Ryan should be laying down one or two tax code changes, though.

This is what I'm hearing from a fairly unbiased sample of friends...they like Biden on substance but think the laughter thing is weird/creepy/rude.

469 diamonda2u  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:52:22pm

Go Joe! Go Joe! Go Joe!!

470 Sionainn  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:52:26pm

re: #428 sagehen

we're barely halfway through.

Thanks.

471 Lidane  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:52:37pm
472 DisturbedEma  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:52:37pm

re: #465 Dark_Falcon

Noted. . .but still

473 Targetpractice  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:52:38pm

"Oh, now you're Jack Kennedy?"

Audience laughter! How sweet it is!

474 Batman  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:53:30pm

I'm glad we have a congressional republican to school the democratic vice president about bipartisanship. Good grief.

475 bluecheese  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:53:30pm

oh now you're jack kennedy?

476 Lidane  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:53:46pm

Hahahaha.

477 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:54:04pm

Get angry, Paul. Rip into this asshole.

478 DisturbedEma  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:54:11pm

Just keep swimming. . .just keep swimming. . .Squirrel!!!!!

479 Killgore Trout  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:54:13pm
480 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:54:30pm

Facts. Lovely.

481 JamesWI  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:54:42pm

re: #477 Dark_Falcon

Get angry, Paul. Rip into this asshole.

Lol, so delusional. So sad.

482 makeitstop  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:54:49pm

re: #477 Dark_Falcon

Get angry, Paul. Rip into this asshole.

He's already angry. It isn't helping.

483 Lidane  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:54:49pm
484 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:54:55pm

Dueling talking points right now.

485 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:54:57pm

There were horses, and a man on fire, and I killed a guy with a trident.

486 diamonda2u  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:54:58pm

Another math question...hehehehe

487 Gus  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:55:05pm

Ryan voted for those auto defense cuts.

488 Gus  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:55:32pm

Uh oh. Ryan's lost.

489 Gus  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:55:39pm

Staggering.

490 makeitstop  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:55:47pm

Ryan = Amateur Hour.

491 JamesWI  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:55:50pm

Ryan is tanking now. Absolutely awful

492 Mark Winter  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:55:54pm

Wow it's 4am in the morning and this is the best piece of entertainment I've had om CNN in years.

493 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:55:59pm

Mr. I know government, you do not know government.

494 diamonda2u  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:56:06pm

Oh Joe got him, this is too good!!!!!

WTF did Ryan just say???

495 Tigger2  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:56:08pm

re: #477 Dark_Falcon

Get angry, Paul. Rip into this asshole.

In other words you want Ryan to lie even more?

496 freetoken  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:56:27pm

All this referencing to Politifact or other wonky sites is irrelevant.

For the few % of actual voters who are watching this, what they are simply getting is misinformation.

And the hostess isn't helping here, because when somebody references "studies" she ought to ask for specific details.

497 Lidane  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:56:33pm
498 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:56:42pm

Ryan has lost. He's done. and if this keeps up he can kiss his congress seat goodbye.

499 researchok  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:57:22pm

re: #496 freetoken

Be careful.

You're making sense.
/

500 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:57:28pm
501 makeitstop  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:57:32pm

Biden just made the point of the night, right there.

502 b_sharp  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:57:35pm

What is this going to do to Ryan's State aspirations?

503 Lidane  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:57:49pm
504 bratwurst  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:57:49pm

re: #498 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Ryan has lost. He's done. and if this keeps up he can kiss his congress seat goodbye.

[Link: secure.actblue.com...]

505 diamonda2u  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:57:59pm

re: #498 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Ryan has lost. He's done. and if this keeps up he can kiss his congress seat goodbye.

Ha, we can only hope!

506 JamesWI  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:58:18pm

Another sob story. Doesn't want to talk about the facts because he's getting killed.

507 Blizard  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:58:23pm

disagreed on a few issues??

508 mr.fusion  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:58:33pm

It's pretty damn clear there's only one person on that stage ready to be President tomorrow

509 Killgore Trout  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:58:55pm

re: #496 freetoken

All this referencing to Politifact or other wonky sites is irrelevant.

For the few % of actual voters who are watching this, what they are simply getting is misinformation.

And the hostess isn't helping here, because when somebody references "studies" she ought to ask for specific details.

I don't think it's irrelevant. Most undecideds aren't watching this debate now but they're going to watch news coverage tomorrow. Biden wording his statements correctly in a factually accurate manner and Ryan floundering with inaccurate statements will be covered. It does make a difference.

510 Targetpractice  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:58:55pm

Should be interesting to watch Sully's reaction to Biden tonight. Early guess? Whining that he was "too mean" and that this will only hurt Obama more.

511 Majacita  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:58:55pm

DF, seriously look at Gary Johnson. You'll sleep better. I like you most of the time, but defending liars isn't good for your soul.

512 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:59:15pm

re: #498 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Ryan has lost. He's done. and if this keeps up he can kiss his congress seat goodbye.

We can only pray. Janesville is desperate for someone competent.

513 diamonda2u  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:59:23pm

OBL ...DRINK!!!!

514 Blizard  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:59:25pm

terrorists!

515 Lidane  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:59:35pm
516 JamesWI  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:59:37pm

re: #328 JamesWI

Intrade stocks blowing up.

Started around 60/39 in favor of Obama. Now it's 63.4/36.7. Those guys clearly think Biden is winning.

Let's see the media spin this one.

Now it's up to 64.2/36.1

If this keeps up, Biden might completely reverse Obama's losses by tomorrow! lulz

517 diamonda2u  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 7:00:10pm

Go Joe...cause we are not BABYSITTERS!!!

518 mr.fusion  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 7:00:54pm

I'm a little worried the laughing will be off putting

But the coverage tomorrow will probably be saying Joe whooped him

519 diamonda2u  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 7:00:57pm

NICE....JOE!!!

520 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 7:01:27pm

Stop with the personal stories.

521 Decatur Deb  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 7:01:31pm

Ryan knows a soldier. Bless him.

522 moderatelyradicalliberal  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 7:01:40pm

re: #506 JamesWI

Another sob story. Doesn't want to talk about the facts because he's getting killed.

He's getting killed because unlike Mitt Romney he's not running away from what he's been in favor of and it's all unpopular.

He couldn't do an Etch a Sketch like Mitt. If the President keeps his policy wonk and combines it with some Joey B fighting attitude he can win the nest debate and out this thing away.

I think he's dying for another shot at Willard and Biden's performance should give him a great boost. Now he knows he can laugh in Willard's face if he feels like it.

523 nines09  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 7:02:05pm

This is what you get when you get a point by point rebuttal to free form lying. Ryan is pedaling a broken bike and you know it.

524 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 7:02:24pm

No, you won't be saving $800 Billion, you won't be borrowing it. There's a big difference.

And Ryan is being clear that he wants our troops out by the 2014 deadline.

525 Targetpractice  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 7:03:12pm

re: #524 Dark_Falcon

No, you won't be saving $800 Billion, you won't be borrowing it. There's a big difference.

And Ryan is being clear that he wants our troops out by the 2014 deadline.

No, he's trying to create a "but" situation, as in "We'll be out in 2014, but we'll be keeping troops there 'just in case.'"

526 Mark Winter  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 7:03:22pm

Ah ok, we don't want a date but agree with the timeline. Who let this guy out of middle school debate class?

527 Jdorfma4  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 7:03:34pm

Raddatz wants to find daylight beetween them on the war and there really isn't any.

528 moderatelyradicalliberal  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 7:03:46pm

re: #516 JamesWI

Now it's up to 64.2/36.1

If this keeps up, Biden might completely reverse Obama's losses by tomorrow! lulz

Joe was already valuable. Now he is invaluable.

529 diamonda2u  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 7:04:05pm

re: #526 Mark Winter

Ah ok, we don't want a date but agree with the timeline. Who let this guy out of middle school debate class?

Who let him outta kindergarten?

530 sagehen  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 7:04:17pm

re: #510 Targetpractice

Should be interesting to watch Sully's reaction to Biden tonight. Early guess? Whining that he was "too mean" and that this will only hurt Obama more.

oh no... you're so off. Sully is loving Biden. Lots.

531 Targetpractice  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 7:04:46pm

re: #530 sagehen

oh no... you're so off. Sully is loving Biden. Lots.

Shit, he must have renewed his meds.

532 diamonda2u  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 7:05:58pm

re: #530 sagehen

oh no... you're so off. Sully is loving Biden. Lots.

Sorry but Sully blew it last week when he did his propaganda drama queen piece last week.

533 diamonda2u  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 7:07:35pm

Get him JOe!!!

534 efuseakay  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 7:11:43pm

re: #524 Dark_Falcon

No, you won't be saving $800 Billion, you won't be borrowing it. There's a big difference.

And Ryan is being clear that he wants our troops out by the 2014 deadline.

Unless...

535 efuseakay  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 7:16:07pm

Lmao Ryan just mentioned. "Reason and science". What an assclown.

536 Obdicut  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 7:23:58pm

re: #459 Killgore Trout

Yes, they do, that's why Biden is making gains by wording his claims properly. Not "destroying medicare" or "killing Big Bird". He's making factually acurate statements, there's no need to exaggerate with hyperbole.

Which is exactly what Obama did during the debate.

Biden isn't 'winning' this through facts, or Obama won the last debate. It's presentation.

537 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 7:27:47pm

re: #425 Dark_Falcon

Hey, D_F, I like you and a little spirited back-and-forth is to be expected on nights like this, but that comment made me want to say this to you:

What.The.Fuck.Dude?!?

538 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 7:29:44pm

re: #434 mr.fusion

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Maher may be a vaxxer asshole, but that's funny...I don't care who you are.

539 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 7:35:42pm

re: #525 Targetpractice

No, he's trying to create a "but" situation, as in "We'll be out in 2014, but we'll be keeping troops there 'just in case.'"

It's the old saw...whenever anybody says something, then says "...but,", disregard everything that was said before the "...but,".


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