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1 Kragar  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:06:06pm

Bit the bullet and spent the day cleaning out the bedroom.

I'm spent.

2 erik_t  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:06:32pm

They made a reality show of Scott Brown's campaign staff?

3 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:06:58pm

*Tries desperately to come up with something witty and earth shattering*

*Fails*

4 Kragar  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:07:16pm

Flip side of cleaning the bedroom, I don't have a fucking clue where anything is anymore.

5 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:08:59pm

re: #3 Mostly sane, most of the time.

*Tries desperately to come up with something witty and earth shattering*

*Fails*

Cleaning bedroom is trending. I'm thinking of making a breakfast sandwich for dinner. whooooo.

Watching premier of Walking Dead. For the first time in my memory they are showing a premier on the west coast in the same time as the east coast.

Pretty impressive.

6 KoolEarl  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:09:25pm

Philadelphia Ugghles...'nuff said

7 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:09:40pm

re: #5 Stanley Sea

Cleaning bedroom is trending. I'm thinking of making a breakfast sandwich for dinner. whooooo.

Watching premier of Walking Dead. For the first time in my memory they are showing a premier on the west coast in the same time as the east coast.

Pretty impressive.

My bedroom needs cleaning, but you see, the rest of the house requires cleaning as well, and other people see that part.

8 Targetpractice  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:10:32pm

re: #1 Kragar

Bit the bullet and spent the day cleaning out the bedroom.

I'm spent.

Meanwhile, I did something constructive...by building up my squad for the final mission in XCOM. Only planted 'bout half of them, including two of my three espers.

9 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:12:40pm

I'm hoping the Texans knock the Packers for another loss.

10 Kragar  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:12:56pm

re: #8 Targetpractice

Meanwhile, I did something constructive...by building up my squad for the final mission in XCOM. Only planted 'bout half of them, including two of my three espers.

Finished my first run thru last night, only had one Psyker. Kind of anticlimactic. Mind controlled a Muton and charged him in as a scout, the last room agroed and the Ethereal charged forward and got cut down in reaction fire.

12 KoolEarl  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:15:45pm

PPP tweet: RMoney up in NC 49-47

13 AntonSirius  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:17:08pm

Imani/ABL just put it up on her site and Balloon Juice, but ex-South Carolina Gov Mark Sanford said about the second debate, "Obama’s going to come out in this case much more forcefully, and he’s going to throw a lot of spears."

That's more of a fog horn than a dog whistle. Sheesh.

14 Targetpractice  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:18:18pm

re: #10 Kragar

Finished my first run thru last night, only had one Psyker. Kind of anticlimactic. Mind controlled a Muton and charged him in as a scout, the last room agroed and the Ethereal charged forward and got cut down in reaction fire.

That's all I have right now, remarkably she's one of only two that's been around since pretty much the beginning. The first bought it in the Overseer attack, and the second died because she missed the second shot against an Ethereal. 75% chance to hit and she missed it at close range. Never have I wanted so much to throw a computer out the window.

15 Lidane  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:19:43pm

I'm not watching The Walking Dead until the 9pm showing. If anyone here spoils this episode for me, imma get all Hulk Smash up in here.

16 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:20:04pm

re: #13 AntonSirius

Imani/ABL just put it up on her site and Balloon Juice, but ex-South Carolina Gov Mark Sanford said about the second debate, "Obama’s going to come out in this case much more forcefully, and he’s going to throw a lot of spears."

That's more of a fog horn than a dog whistle. Sheesh.

Obama should reply by saying: "How about you and I settle this in a 10 mile race on the Appalachian Trail?"

17 Kragar  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:21:02pm

re: #14 Targetpractice

That's all I have right now, remarkably she's one of only two that's been around since pretty much the beginning. The first bought it in the Overseer attack, and the second died because she missed the second shot against an Ethereal. 75% chance to hit and she missed it at close range. Never have I wanted so much to throw a computer out the window.

Run and Gun, 100% chance to hit, and ... MISSED!

GDIAF!!!!

Was running a heavy, a sniper, a medic support, a rifle support, and 2 assault

18 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:21:05pm

re: #10 Kragar

Finished my first run thru last night, only had one Psyker. Kind of anticlimactic. Mind controlled a Muton and charged him in as a scout, the last room agroed and the Ethereal charged forward and got cut down in reaction fire.

Did you get to see Looper?

19 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:21:25pm

re: #15 Lidane

I'm not watching The Walking Dead until the 9pm showing. If anyone here spoils this episode for me, imma get all Hulk Smash up in here.

hee.

20 Kaessa  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:22:04pm

Spent the day in my pajamas surfing the net with a cat on my lap most of the day. Oh, and pain pills.

I need to buy Guild Wars 2 and start playing an MMO again.

21 Kragar  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:22:05pm

re: #18 Dark_Falcon

Did you get to see Looper?

No, I vaguely know its a time travel something or other but wasn't paying it any attention.

22 Gus  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:22:41pm
23 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:23:36pm

I started watching Walking Dead but I just can't get into it.

1. Where do they get gas for their cars?
2. If zombies are already dead, how does shooting, stabbing or impaling them make them deader? Don't they just get back up again?

24 Kaessa  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:24:15pm

re: #18 Dark_Falcon

Did you get to see Looper?

We saw that last night. It was much better than I thought it would be.

25 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:24:56pm

re: #21 Kragar

No, I vaguely know its a time travel something or other but wasn't paying it any attention.

You should, since its good. And though its a slight spoiler, I can tell you that part of the story is the emergence of visible Psyker powers. At first just as parlor tricks, but later... [stopping to ensure I'm not going to cause a problem by continuing]

26 Kragar  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:25:03pm

re: #23 Sheila Broflovski

I started watching Walking Dead but I just can't get into it.

1. Where do they get gas for their cars?
2. If zombies are already dead, how does shooting, stabbing or impaling them make them deader? Don't they just get back up again?

1. Siphoning, plus they're on foot most of the time.
2. Destruction of the brain or spinal column stops the body.

27 Bob Dillon  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:25:07pm

Anyone feel there may be teething issues with the server? Sometimes rocket fast - sometime hesitation.

28 Mocking Jay  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:25:59pm

Oh thank Jeebus the comic con is over. I just want to curl up into a ball. So sick of Walking Dead... their faces were on all of the badges.

29 b_sharp  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:26:10pm

re: #23 Sheila Broflovski

I started watching Walking Dead but I just can't get into it.

1. Where do they get gas for their cars?
2. If zombies are already dead, how does shooting, stabbing or impaling them make them deader? Don't they just get back up again?

They're controlled by a virus in their brains that triggers electrical impulses to their muscles. A hit to the brain severs the nerves. This was 'splained in season 1 CDC visit.

30 JamesWI  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:26:17pm

re: #23 Sheila Broflovski

I started watching Walking Dead but I just can't get into it.

1. Where do they get gas for their cars?
2. If zombies are already dead, how does shooting, stabbing or impaling them make them deader? Don't they just get back up again?

1. They've shown them siphoning other cars occasionally, though that doesn't take into account that gas doesn't stay good for that long.

2. These zombies come back when the virus or whatever causes some minimal brain activity, so killing the brain still works.

31 Bob Dillon  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:26:42pm

re: #18 Dark_Falcon

Did you get to see Looper?

Saw Looper a few days ago. Impressed. Better than I expected.

32 Kragar  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:26:46pm

re: #25 Dark_Falcon

You should, since its good. And though its a slight spoiler, I can tell you that part of the story is the emergence of visible Psyker powers. At first just as parlor tricks, but later... [stopping to ensure I'm not going to cause a problem by continuing]

I will eventually at some point. We don't go out to movies unless its a big one.

33 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:27:16pm

re: #15 Lidane

I'm not watching The Walking Dead until the 9pm showing. If anyone here spoils this episode for me, imma get all Hulk Smash up in here.

Turn off your twitter.

34 Mocking Jay  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:27:20pm

re: #15 Lidane

I'm not watching The Walking Dead until the 9pm showing. If anyone here spoils this episode for me, imma get all Hulk Smash up in here.

They see dead people...

35 Lidane  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:27:43pm

re: #23 Sheila Broflovski

I started watching Walking Dead but I just can't get into it.

1. Where do they get gas for their cars?
2. If zombies are already dead, how does shooting, stabbing or impaling them make them deader? Don't they just get back up again?

Kragar answered 1 and 2.

The main thing to realize about The Walking Dead is that the title doesn't refer to the zombies. It refers to the survivors. The zombies themselves are an ever-present danger, but the real threat comes from all the other survivors that you meet.

36 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:27:50pm

re: #32 Kragar

I will eventually at some point. We don't go out to movies unless its a big one.

May I post the spoiler? It's something I want your reaction to. I can do so in a way as it won't give away everything.

37 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:28:28pm

Next question: Has anyone watched Revolution? Is it worth watching?

38 Lidane  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:29:33pm

re: #33 Stanley Sea

Turn off your twitter.

Heh. The last place I'd go right now is Twitter. Not until after I watch the episode and also watch Talking Dead afterwards.

39 b_sharp  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:29:43pm

re: #33 Stanley Sea

Turn off your twitter.

You stop tweeting spoilers!
I had to turn off twitter 'cause of you.
Bad. Bad.

41 Kragar  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:30:30pm

re: #36 Dark_Falcon

May I post the spoiler? It's something I want your reaction to. I can do so in a way as it won't give away everything.

I don't mind. I can't remember the last time a movie really surprised me.

OK, I take that back. There was a B horror movie with Jessica Biel that had a nice twist to it, but that was it.

42 Targetpractice  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:30:48pm

re: #35 Lidane

Kragar answered 1 and 2.

The main thing to realize about The Walking Dead is that the title doesn't refer to the zombies. It refers to the survivors. The zombies themselves are an ever-present danger, but the real threat comes from all the other survivors that you meet.

The Walking Dead is very much a Romero-style zombie apocalypse. The virus or whatever it is reanimates even those who die from means other than bites, the struggle is more against other humans than the walkers, and overarching theme is surviving in a world where humanity is no longer the top of the food chain.

43 b_sharp  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:30:48pm

re: #35 Lidane

Kragar answered 1 and 2.

The main thing to realize about The Walking Dead is that the title doesn't refer to the zombies. It refers to the survivors. The zombies themselves are an ever-present danger, but the real threat comes from all the other survivors that you meet.

It's a commentary on human nature.

44 Lidane  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:33:57pm

OK. While I wait to watch The Walking Dead, I just saw this. It looks so badass. This is a film after my own heart:

Youtube Video
45 Gus  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:34:42pm
46 Mattand  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:35:23pm

re: #35 Lidane

Kragar answered 1 and 2.

The main thing to realize about The Walking Dead is that the title doesn't refer to the zombies. It refers to the survivors. The zombies themselves are an ever-present danger, but the real threat comes from all the other survivors that you meet.

re: #43 Gangnam Style

It's a commentary on human nature.

Huh. Never put 2 and 2 together on that. Pretty cool.

47 KoolEarl  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:35:54pm

Gravis Marketing: CO: Obama up 48-46

Not familiar with this firm or their reputation/track record

48 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:36:12pm

Walking Dead is just not my cup of tea. I'm just not into zombie movies. Well, I liked Zombieland and Shawn of the Dead, but I don't like serious zombie drama.

49 Gus  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:36:35pm

re: #47 KoolEarl

Gravis Marketing: CO: Obama up 48-46

Not familiar with this firm or their reputation/track record

Former fax bomber marketing guy.

50 JamesWI  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:37:19pm

re: #47 KoolEarl

Gravis Marketing: CO: Obama up 48-46

Not familiar with this firm or their reputation/track record

They've released some of the worst polls I've ever seen, usually skewed heavily for Republicans . I believe it was their last Colorado poll where they had Mitt winning 56% of the black vote.

51 Kragar  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:37:26pm

re: #48 Sheila Broflovski

Walking Dead is just not my cup of tea. I'm just not into zombie movies. Well, I liked Zombieland and Shawn of the Dead, but I don't like serious zombie drama.

I waiting for World War Z. The book was good and I hope they didn't butcher it in the film. Hopefully they keep the battle of Yonkers in it.

52 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:37:27pm

How long will a decapitated zombie head continue to try and bite? The zombies have no metabolic needs, require no food or oxygen?

I'm seeing an appalling lack of hygienic precaution on the part of the survivors.

53 b_sharp  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:37:38pm

re: #48 Sheila Broflovski

Walking Dead is just not my cup of tea. I'm just not into zombie movies. Well, I liked Zombieland and Shawn of the Dead, but I don't like serious zombie drama.

My two favourite zombie movies.

54 MittDoesNotCompute  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:37:49pm

re: #47 KoolEarl

Gravis Marketing: CO: Obama up 48-46

Not familiar with this firm or their reputation/track record

Don't trust them...there was some issues here with a survey they did 2-3 weeks ago, because it looked really shaky like complete and total fantasy.

55 b_sharp  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:38:52pm

re: #52 goddamnedfrank

How long will a decapitated zombie head continue to try and bite? The zombies have no metabolic needs, require no food or oxygen?

I'm seeing an appalling lack of hygienic precaution on the part of the survivors.

Everyone has the virus. Once they die they become.

56 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:39:25pm

re: #41 Kragar

I don't mind. I can't remember the last time a movie really surprised me.

OK, I take that back. There was a B horror movie with Jessica Biel that had a nice twist to it, but that was it.

It turns out the 'Big Bad' in the movie is the first truly powerful Psyker (though the power is called telekenisis), so strong as to be able to cause someone's heart to be crushed simply by willing it. When I saw that it kind of made a 40K connection for me, especially as the mild version of the power is presented as a kind of limited 'step up' for humans.

57 Targetpractice  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:39:57pm

re: #51 Kragar

I waiting for World War Z. The book was good and I hope they didn't butcher it in the film. Hopefully they keep the battle of Yonkers in it.

If the Battle of Yonkers on film looks anything like this, it will be supremely awesome. Though, I've heard talk that they're looking at the possibility of stretching the whole story out over three movies, rather than just one.

58 Mattand  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:40:04pm

Speaking of horror shows: did anyone catch the O'Reilly/Stewart debate? Was it worth it? Did Bill O set a new smugness per minute ratio? Did Stewart hold back because, for some reason, he wants Bill back on the Daily Show?

59 Kragar  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:40:18pm

re: #52 goddamnedfrank

How long will a decapitated zombie head continue to try and bite? The zombies have no metabolic needs, require no food or oxygen?

I'm seeing an appalling lack of hygienic precaution on the part of the survivors.

Depending on the source material in question, the general consensus is a viral zombie will survive for about 5 years before it wears itself to nothing. The virus infecting the host kills off the normal bacteria and insects which would naturally decompose the corpse.

60 Targetpractice  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:40:41pm

re: #59 Kragar

Depending on the source material in question, the general consensus is a viral zombie will survive for about 5 years before it wears itself to nothing. The virus infecting the host kills off the normal bacteria and insects which would naturally decompose the corpse.

Been reading the Zombie Survival Guide again?

61 b_sharp  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:40:45pm

re: #52 goddamnedfrank

How long will a decapitated zombie head continue to try and bite? The zombies have no metabolic needs, require no food or oxygen?

I'm seeing an appalling lack of hygienic precaution on the part of the survivors.

Viruses need live cells and blood flow to reproduce.

62 Mattand  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:41:04pm

And speaking of zombies, been playing waaaaay too much Left 4 Dead 2 lately.

63 Kragar  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:41:45pm

re: #60 Targetpractice

Been reading the Zombie Survival Guide again?

Just the once.

64 Kragar  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:42:34pm

re: #56 Dark_Falcon

It turns out the 'Big Bad' in the movie is the first truly powerful Psyker (though the power is called telekenisis), so strong as to be able to cause someone's heart to be crushed simply by willing it. When i saw that it kind of made a 40K connection for me, especially as the mild version of the power is presented as a kind of limited 'step up' for humans.

Neat.

You ever check out Alphas?

65 Mocking Jay  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:43:04pm

re: #51 Kragar

I waiting for World War Z. The book was good and I hope they didn't butcher it in the film. Hopefully they keep the battle of Yonkers in it.

Wait, they have a battle in my town?

66 AntonSirius  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:43:34pm

re: #48 Sheila Broflovski

Walking Dead is just not my cup of tea. I'm just not into zombie movies. Well, I liked Zombieland and Shawn of the Dead, but I don't like serious zombie drama.

See if you can find a film called Fido that came out a few years ago. It's kind of like Pleasantville or Leave It To Beaver, but with zombies. If Shaun and Zombieland are your thing, it'll be right up your alley.

67 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:43:43pm

re: #64 Kragar

Neat.

You ever check out Alphas?

No, what's it about?

68 Targetpractice  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:44:47pm

re: #65 Mocking Jay

Wait, they have a battle in my town?

Not so much a battle as a rout. One of the survivors interviewed for the book declares that the battle was supposed to regain people's confidence in the military and the government. Instead, the message ended up being "Kiss your ass goodbye."

69 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:44:47pm

re: #66 AntonSirius

See if you can find a film called Fido that came out a few years ago. It's kind of like Pleasantville or Leave It To Beaver, but with zombies. If Shaun and Zombieland are your thing, it'll be right up your alley.

I enjoyed Shawn and Zombieland, but not so damn much that I want to seek out other zombie spoofs.

70 b_sharp  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:44:55pm

re: #64 Kragar

Neat.

You ever check out Alphas?

First season was like a kid's show, second season has become more serious.
I do like Gary.

71 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:45:01pm

re: #55 Gangnam Style

Everyone has the virus. Once they die they become.

Then why did that one guy die from a zombie bite in Season One? Some other kind of bacterial infection? They also cautioned against cooking and eating that deer that Daryl killed because a zombie had been gnawing on it. If they've all got the virus that wouldn't have been an issue. I'm guessing the characters don't know shit but this is season three now, I want some answers before this turns into a gigantic viewer donkey punch like LOST.

72 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:45:08pm

The family is watching Amazing Grace.

Sherlock just died, and Dumbledore is praising Wilberforce.

That's how they classify these things.

If you didn't know that William Pitt died before the abolition of the slave trade, sorry for spoiling the ending for you.

73 b_sharp  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:45:40pm

re: #66 AntonSirius

See if you can find a film called Fido that came out a few years ago. It's kind of like Pleasantville or Leave It To Beaver, but with zombies. If Shaun and Zombieland are your thing, it'll be right up your alley.

Didn't like it. Not enough action.

74 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:45:50pm

Taliban unhappy with press coverage of their assassination attempt on 14 year old girl. Taliban plans attacks on media
Taliban plan attacks on media outlets, journalists

According to sources, the Taliban felt that the media has become biased against them and was giving ‘undue’ coverage to the attack on Malala and portraying them as the ‘worst people on earth’.

The militants were reported to have held meetings and decided to suspend all their current operations and activities in the country and directed field comman

ders and fighters to divert their attention towards media organisations instead of the government and security forces.

In this regard, the sources said, the militants had selected12 suicide bombers and tasked them to target media organisations, particularly the electronic media and some foreign media organisations and their workers, in Peshawar, Islamabad, Lahore and Karachi and wherever they found them.

“The suicide bombers have particularly been directed to target offices, vehicles and journalists individually who had become a party and were issuing fatwas or decrees against the Taliban,” TTP sources said.

75 KoolEarl  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:46:17pm

re: #50 JamesWI

Thanks James. I looked into Gravis
and it does seem like a serious bunco outfit

76 JamesWI  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:46:17pm

re: #71 goddamnedfrank

Then why did that one guy die from a zombie bite in Season One? Some other kind of bacterial infection? They also cautioned against cooking and eating that deer that Daryl killed because a zombie had been gnawing on it. If they've all got the virus that wouldn't have been an issue. I'm guessing the characters don't know shit but this is season three now, I want some answers before this turns into a gigantic viewer donkey punch like LOST.

None of them knew about them all being infected until recently (except for one of them, who kept it a secret)

77 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:46:35pm

Did anyone see Revolution? Anyone?

78 b_sharp  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:46:44pm

re: #67 Dark_Falcon

No, what's it about?

Beta testing software upgrades in humans.

79 Lidane  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:46:57pm
80 Targetpractice  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:47:08pm

re: #71 goddamnedfrank

Then why did that one guy die from a zombie bite in Season One? Some other kind of bacterial infection? They also cautioned against cooking and eating that deer that Daryl killed because a zombie had been gnawing on it. If they've all got the virus that wouldn't have been an issue. I'm guessing the characters don't know shit but this is season three now, I want some answers before this turns into a gigantic viewer donkey punch like LOST.

The comic book treats everything very Romero-esque, so the bites don't transmit a virus so much as cause a massive infection from bacteria in the zombie's saliva. Remember that a person's mouth is not the cleanest thing in the world, a dead one's even less so.

81 Lidane  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:47:41pm

The pull of Twitter is too strong. Back later before I spoil myself.

82 Kragar  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:48:02pm

re: #67 Dark_Falcon

No, what's it about?

Its a SciFi series, first season is on Netflix, about mutant humans developing. The show follows a doctor and the team he's found working for the government to track down and stop dangerous ones.

Youtube Video
83 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:49:09pm

Zombie movies always scared me too much to enjoy. I only started to appreciate the genre after seeing 28 Days.

84 b_sharp  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:50:04pm

re: #71 goddamnedfrank

Then why did that one guy die from a zombie bite in Season One? Some other kind of bacterial infection? They also cautioned against cooking and eating that deer that Daryl killed because a zombie had been gnawing on it. If they've all got the virus that wouldn't have been an issue. I'm guessing the characters don't know shit but this is season three now, I want some answers before this turns into a gigantic viewer donkey punch like LOST.

During the first year not everyone was infected and the virus was deadly. The CDC visit tried to explain it all, but I missed some of it. I'll have to re-watch that episode.
I suspect the virus mutated into a dormant strain.

85 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:50:23pm

re: #74 Killgore Trout

Taliban unhappy with press coverage of their assassination attempt on 14 year old girl. Taliban plans attacks on media
Taliban plan attacks on media outlets, journalists

ders and fighters to divert their attention towards media organisations instead of the government and security forces.

In this regard, the sources said, the militants had selected12 suicide bombers and tasked them to target media organisations, particularly the electronic media and some foreign media organisations and their workers, in Peshawar, Islamabad, Lahore and Karachi and wherever they found them.

“The suicide bombers have particularly been directed to target offices, vehicles and journalists individually who had become a party and were issuing fatwas or decrees against the Taliban,” TTP sources said.

That's the signature tactic of a morally bankrupt insurgency; When they get caught having done something hideous, their reaction is to attack those who call it hideous. Sadly, Pakistan being Pakistan, it may well work. It's not really that hard to kill a reporter over there, and most people become far less willing to speak the truth once its been demonstrated that there are people willing and able to kill you for doing so. It's even worse for news agencies, as they have offices that in many cases cannot be adequately hardened against a VBIED.

86 Kragar  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:50:41pm

re: #70 Gangnam Style

First season was like a kid's show, second season has become more serious.
I do like Gary.

It did develop over the first season, which I liked. Haven't watched the second season at all yet.

87 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:50:44pm

re: #77 Sheila Broflovski

Did anyone see Revolution? Anyone?

Not me, sorry.

88 b_sharp  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:51:35pm

re: #74 Killgore Trout

Taliban unhappy with press coverage of their assassination attempt on 14 year old girl. Taliban plans attacks on media
Taliban plan attacks on media outlets, journalists

ders and fighters to divert their attention towards media organisations instead of the government and security forces.

In this regard, the sources said, the militants had selected12 suicide bombers and tasked them to target media organisations, particularly the electronic media and some foreign media organisations and their workers, in Peshawar, Islamabad, Lahore and Karachi and wherever they found them.

“The suicide bombers have particularly been directed to target offices, vehicles and journalists individually who had become a party and were issuing fatwas or decrees against the Taliban,” TTP sources said.

They turn the rest of the Muslim world against them and they'll be the ones in trouble.

89 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:51:44pm

re: #84 Gangnam Style

During the first year not everyone was infected and the virus was deadly. The CDC visit tried to explain it all, but I missed some of it. I'll have to re-watch that episode.
I suspect the virus mutated into a dormant strain.

It typically doesn't pay to quickly kill your host, even if you are a virus.

90 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:52:14pm

Wow, hypothetical speculation about stillborn fetus ripping its way out of a living Mom. AMC - our shit is dark.

91 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:52:24pm

re: #85 Dark_Falcon

It's only going to change when the protests against assassinating teen girls dwarf the protests against cartoons and youtube clips. Sadly, that's not happening anytime soon.

92 Kragar  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:52:58pm

re: #83 Killgore Trout

Zombie movies always scared me too much to enjoy. I only started to appreciate the genre after seeing 28 Days.

28 Days later was good. 28 Weeks later was utter and complete crap.

The original "Return of the Living Dead" always freaked me out because they had unkillable zombies. The zombies were intelligent, individual parts would keep coming, and if you burned them, the ashes could be used to reanimate more corpses.

93 Digital Display  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:53:04pm

I'd like to say how much I appreciate the kind comments from all of you lizards about my late son, David. I hit a serious funk every 10-13.
Now I need to get out of bed, turn sports off, shove the laptop aside get a shower and go out to dinner. ( I haven't eaten for about 30 hours )
Go somewhere and toast him with a few shots of the most expensive booze at the Mont.
Now.. I love you guys and gals but in a few hours you cannot hold me accountable for anything I post.. Just tell me to fucking shut up and take a sleeping pill.
Regards,
The Hoopster

94 Charles Johnson  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:53:34pm

re: #90 goddamnedfrank

Wow, hypothetical speculation about stillborn fetus ripping its way out of a living Mom. AMC - our shit is dark.

The TV version isn't as dark as the graphic novels. But it's close.

95 b_sharp  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:53:56pm

re: #89 Dark_Falcon

It typically doesn't pay to quickly kill your host, even if you are a virus.

That's true.

96 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:54:10pm

re: #90 goddamnedfrank

Wow, hypothetical speculation about stillborn fetus ripping its way out of a living Mom. AMC - our shit is dark.

That's an abortion need even Paul Ryan would support.

97 Sionainn  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:54:33pm

re: #93 Digital Display

I'd like to say how much I appreciate the kind comments from all of you lizards about my late son, David. I hit a serious funk every 10-13.
Now I need to get out of bed, turn sports off, shove the laptop aside get a shower and go out to dinner. ( I haven't eaten for about 30 hours )
Go somewhere and toast him with a few shots of the most expensive booze at the Mont.
Now.. I love you guys and gals but in a few hours you cannot hold me accountable for anything I post.. Just tell me to fucking shut up and take a sleeping pill.
Regards,
The Hoopster

{{{Hoops}}}

98 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:55:02pm

For the zombie fans: an indy film that looks pretty cool
"The Battery"

Youtube Video
99 b_sharp  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:55:30pm

re: #93 Digital Display

I'd like to say how much I appreciate the kind comments from all of you lizards about my late son, David. I hit a serious funk every 10-13.
Now I need to get out of bed, turn sports off, shove the laptop aside get a shower and go out to dinner. ( I haven't eaten for about 30 hours )
Go somewhere and toast him with a few shots of the most expensive booze at the Mont.
Now.. I love you guys and gals but in a few hours you cannot hold me accountable for anything I post.. Just tell me to fucking shut up and take a sleeping pill.
Regards,
The Hoopster

Take care my friend.

100 freetoken  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:55:31pm

re: #48 Sheila Broflovski

Walking Dead is just not my cup of tea. I'm just not into zombie movies. Well, I liked Zombieland and Shawn of the Dead, but I don't like serious zombie drama.

I find that WD is a bit too intense (and forcibly so) for my tastes, but it does have its merits.

101 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:55:58pm

re: #91 Killgore Trout

It's only going to change when the protests against assassinating teen girls dwarf the protests against cartoons and youtube clips. Sadly, that's not happening anytime soon.

The problem is that we don't just kill someone for protesting our actions, whereas the Taliban do. A genuine set of moral principals is quite an expensive thing. Very much worthwhile, but you pay for it.

102 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:57:05pm

re: #92 Kragar

I actually think 28 Weeks had serious promise but dropped the ball. It had the bones of a great sequel but they fucked it up.

103 geoduck  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:57:08pm

re: #51 Kragar

I waiting for World War Z. The book was good and I hope they didn't butcher it in the film. Hopefully they keep the battle of Yonkers in it.

Unfortunately, it sounds like they took the name and pretty much tossed the plot. The film's also had massive behind-the-scene problems and undergone extensive re-shoots, so any WWZ fans should probably dial their hopes way back.

104 Targetpractice  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:57:19pm

re: #89 Dark_Falcon

It typically doesn't pay to quickly kill your host, even if you are a virus.

Not always. Consider Ebola, which basically liquifies your innards. It worked in humans for so long due to causing the victim to bleed out, spreading the infection to others when they tried to render assistance or cleanse the body for burial.

Most zombie films that deal with viruses take the bent that the purpose of creating a zombie is the virus creating an ambulatory carrier in order to actively seek out new hosts.

105 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:58:39pm

re: #104 Targetpractice

Not always. Consider Ebola, which basically liquifies your innards. It worked in humans for so long due to causing the victim to bleed out, spreading the infection to others when they tried to render assistance or cleanse the body for burial.

Most zombie films that deal with viruses take the bent that the purpose of creating a zombie is the virus creating an ambulatory carrier in order to actively seek out new hosts.

Hence my use of the word 'typically'. There a almost always exceptions to a rule.

106 Charles Johnson  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:00:47pm

Whoa. That was intense.

107 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:01:01pm

re: #90 goddamnedfrank

Wow, hypothetical speculation about stillborn fetus ripping its way out of a living Mom. AMC - our shit is dark.

walking dead. yeah

108 Kragar  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:01:11pm

re: #102 Killgore Trout

I actually think 28 Weeks had serious promise but dropped the ball. It had the bones of a great sequel but they fucked it up.

I threw my hands up in disgust when they find the most valuable person in England, lock her into a military security lab, and Robert Carlyle walks in , bypassing multiple security measures and not encountering a single guard, gets infected, then immediately finds more victims to start it all over again.

109 b_sharp  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:01:24pm

re: #104 Targetpractice

Not always. Consider Ebola, which basically liquifies your innards. It worked in humans for so long due to causing the victim to bleed out, spreading the infection to others when they tried to render assistance or cleanse the body for burial.

Most zombie films that deal with viruses take the bent that the purpose of creating a zombie is the virus creating an ambulatory carrier in order to actively seek out new hosts.

That uses the ES strategy of spreading quickly through blood contact. Most viruses use a different ESS. It's amazing how many strategies there are out there.

110 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:02:19pm

re: #94 Charles Johnson

The TV version isn't as dark as the graphic novels. But it's close.

and is going to get better. only those who want to, need to watch.

meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

112 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:03:08pm

re: #108 Kragar

I threw my hands up in disgust when they find the most valuable person in England, lock her into a military security lab, and Robert Carlyle walks in , bypassing multiple security measures and not encountering a single guard, gets infected, then immediately finds more victims to start it all over again.

Indeed. I was actually watching the movie but changed the channel when I saw that. It was just such a bit of bad writing and lax standards of writer supervision that I could not suspend my disbelief over it.

113 b_sharp  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:03:48pm

re: #110 Stanley Sea

and is going to get better. only those who want to, need to watch.

meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

No more spoilers please.

114 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:06:31pm

re: #113 Gangnam Style

No more spoilers please.

It was a sled.

115 Kragar  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:07:07pm

re: #114 Mostly sane, most of the time.

It was a sled.

Brad Pitt was his alter ego the whole time.

116 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:08:23pm

re: #115 Kragar

Brad Pitt was his alter ego the whole time.

Bruce Willis was actually a ghost the whole time.

117 b_sharp  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:09:00pm

Noooo!!

118 Kragar  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:09:40pm

re: #116 Mostly sane, most of the time.

Bruce Willis was actually a ghost the whole time.

The bad guy was his dad.

119 Targetpractice  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:10:43pm

re: #118 Kragar

The bad guy was his dad.

It was Earth all along.

120 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:11:04pm

re: #119 Targetpractice

It was Earth all along.

They're making it out of dead people.

121 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:11:13pm

Here's a new song from a band we all know, that bears on what we've been talking about:

Youtube Video
122 AntonSirius  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:11:57pm

re: #106 Charles Johnson

Whoa. That was intense.

I'm pleased that in the new ep there was a distinct lack of the kind of stupid, inconsistent characterizations that pretty much ruined season two for me.

123 Kragar  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:12:10pm

re: #120 Mostly sane, most of the time.

They're making it out of dead people.

No one renewed. Carousel was a lie.

124 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:13:08pm

Mom's dead. He's just a schizophrenic killer.

125 makeitstop  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:13:40pm

Gah. Discovery is running a show about secret societies, with Alex Jones.

In other news, my wife is aghast at the VW commercial that uses Rush's 'Fly By Night.'

126 danarchy  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:13:49pm

Walking dead down, next up Dexter.

127 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:14:14pm

re: #124 Mostly sane, most of the time.

Mom's dead. He's just a schizophrenic killer.

They are proclaimed the co-winners before they can eat the poison berries!

128 AntonSirius  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:14:19pm

re: #123 Kragar

No one renewed. Carousel was a lie.

He made the whole thing up based on crap pinned to the bulletin board.

129 makeitstop  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:14:25pm

It was all a dream.

130 MittDoesNotCompute  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:16:13pm

Wadsworth was actually Mr. Boddy.

131 Kragar  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:16:29pm

re: #128 AntonSirius

He made the whole thing up based on crap pinned to the bulletin board.

They weren't pilgrims, they just all lived in the woods.

132 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:16:36pm

Black dies.
Dumbledore dies.
Snape was actually the good guy all along.

133 engineer cat  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:17:00pm

i was thinking of putting up a page about zombie science denialists

134 b_sharp  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:18:34pm

It doesn't take much to make this place peg my weird-shit-o-metre.

135 Targetpractice  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:19:27pm

re: #131 Kragar

They weren't pilgrims, they just all lived in the woods.

He already killed the real guy responsible, but can't remember it.

136 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:19:39pm

re: #133 engineer cat

i was thinking of putting up a page about zombie science denialists

I think I would check the pulse of anyone denying zombies too strenuously.

Just a little suspicious, y'know.

137 Kragar  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:19:55pm

Neo was a honeypot to trap hackers in the DMZ of the Machine Civilizations network so they could develop antivirus software to eliminate the Agent Smith rootkit.

138 AntonSirius  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:21:04pm

re: #135 Targetpractice

He already killed the real guy responsible, but can't remember it.

I was just trying to figure out the best way to word that one...

139 Gus  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:21:09pm

Let's summarize today's GOP for Sunday:

• Send Obama "back to Africa." -- Jason Thompson
• Obama will resort to being a "spear chucker." -- Mark Sanford

140 Targetpractice  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:21:11pm

re: #137 Kragar

Neo was a honeypot to trap hackers in the DMZ of the Machine Civilizations network so they could develop antivirus software to eliminate the Agent Smith rootkit.

That actually makes much more sense than the movie did.

141 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:21:18pm

The Titanic hit an iceberg and sank.

Oh, wait, that wasn't exactly a surprise.

142 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:21:32pm

I'm on poor people cable and I'm hearing 'DONT SPOIL IT?" hahaha for once.

143 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:21:47pm

re: #131 Kragar

They weren't pilgrims, they just all lived in the woods.

I'm actually planning to use one of the 'Rules' from The Village as a tagline for an upcoming Battletech game. The scenario is set on a wintery part of the planet Engadine, home to a nightmarish 3 meter tall pack predator called the Nolan. They pose a deadly risk for an conventional infantry or pilots of downed battlemechs and can even lightly damage powered battle armor.

Hence the Rule: Never enter the woods, that is where They wait.

144 Kragar  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:22:00pm

re: #136 Mostly sane, most of the time.

I think I would check the pulse of anyone denying zombies too strenuously.

Just a little suspicious, y'know.

A buddy of mine in every RPG we ever played.

"And I destroy the head."

"Um, there are no zombies in this genre."

"Exactly the way I intend to keep it."

145 Kragar  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:24:22pm

re: #140 Targetpractice

That actually makes much more sense than the movie did.

They tried to make it seem much more magical.

"NEO NO LONGER NEEDS TO BE PLUGGED IN!"

"So, he operates with a wireless connection now?"

"Well... yeah. Shut up."

146 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:26:10pm

Exactly

147 Targetpractice  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:26:38pm

re: #145 Kragar

They tried to make it seem much more magical.

"NEO NO LONGER NEEDS TO BE PLUGGED IN!"

"So, he operates with a wireless connection now?"

"Well... yeah. Shut up."

It made the end of Reloaded cool to see him do that, if only to keep us guessing until Revolutions came out. But then I saw Revolutions and spent the next week puzzling over just what the frak I'd paid to watch.

148 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:28:16pm

Ok, loggin'-on from St. Louis --don't asky why.

How is life this evening with you-all?

149 Targetpractice  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:28:32pm

re: #146 Stanley Sea

Exactly

[Embedded content]

The big tell is all the talk, especially since the first debate, that the details of the tax plan will have to "negotiated" with Congress in a "bipartisan" fashion. Show of hands, how many here actually think a Romney administration and Republican House would negotiate anything with Democrats?

150 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:28:45pm

re: #146 Stanley Sea

Exactly

[Embedded content]

Nixon's plan of Vietnamization might well have worked, had Nixon not ruined its chances by covering up the Watergate Burglary.

151 Kragar  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:29:49pm

re: #147 Targetpractice

It made the end of Reloaded cool to see him do that, if only to keep us guessing until Revolutions came out. But then I saw Revolutions and spent the next week puzzling over just what the frak I'd paid to watch.

My final opinion of Reloaded depended heavily on how things turned out in Revolutions.

Crap.

"Let's design mechs which need ammo run out to them, but keep an open cockpit where the pilot is exposed."

"Um, why don't we close the cockpit and arm them with those lightning guns we've got?"

"GET BACK TO THE RAVE AND LET THE GROWN UPS DO THE THINKING!"

152 Targetpractice  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:33:18pm

re: #151 Kragar

My final opinion of Reloaded depended heavily on how things turned out in Revolutions.

Crap.

"Let's design mechs which need ammo run out to them, but keep an open cockpit where the pilot is exposed."

"Um, why don't we close the cockpit and arm them with those lightning guns we've got?"

"GET BACK TO THE RAVE AND LET THE GROWN UPS DO THE THINKING!"

"Our enemy is one whose primary weapons are surgically-sharp claws that can flay a man alive without any effort. So let's go ahead and build mechs with open cockpits so that we can make taking them out all the easier."

Part of the problem with applying real-world logic to movies, namely that we forget that in movie world, you gotta keep an open cockpit so you can see the actors get ripped to shreds. See also: Starship Troopers.

153 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:34:17pm

re: #148 ggt

Ok, loggin'-on from St. Louis --don't asky why.

How is life this evening with you-all?

Why?

154 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:34:25pm

re: #151 Kragar

My final opinion of Reloaded depended heavily on how things turned out in Revolutions.

Crap.

"Let's design mechs which need ammo run out to them, but keep an open cockpit where the pilot is exposed."

"Um, why don't we close the cockpit and arm them with those lightning guns we've got?"

"GET BACK TO THE RAVE AND LET THE GROWN UPS DO THE THINKING!"

The heavy machine guns (HMGs) made sense from a standpoint of continuous fire, though in reality they likely would have failed due to overheating prior to running out of ammo.

I did like the MG turrets on the Hammer, but its a scene that really made me want a World War II bomber movie, so that such a scene would be in its original place. The aircraft scene from Tron: Legacy made me feel the same way. I'd like a movie about a B-25 or A-26 crew during WWII, so audiences could see the origin of such scenes.

155 Kragar  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:35:03pm

re: #152 Targetpractice

"Our enemy is one whose primary weapons are surgically-sharp claws that can flay a man alive without any effort. So let's go ahead and build mechs with open cockpits so that we can make taking them out all the easier."

Part of the problem with applying real-world logic to movies, namely that we forget that in movie world, you gotta keep an open cockpit so you can see the actors get ripped to shreds. See also: Starship Troopers.

Except it works just fine with Robert Downey in Iron Man.

156 Targetpractice  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:35:44pm

re: #155 Kragar

Except it works just fine with Robert Downey in Iron Man.

Further demonstrating the awesomeness that is Robert Downey Jr.

157 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:36:39pm

re: #155 Kragar

Except it works just fine with Robert Downey in Iron Man.

Yes, but he's the namesake character, so he has to survive no matter what. He has the greatest of all movie powers on his side: Producer/Writer Fiat.

158 AntonSirius  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:39:18pm

re: #152 Targetpractice

See also: Starship Troopers.

Except that things like that are supposed to be appallingly ludicrous and stupid in Starship Troopers...

159 Targetpractice  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:39:51pm

re: #157 Dark_Falcon

Yes, but he's the namesake character, so he has to survive no matter what. He has the greatest of all movie powers on his side: Producer/Writer Fiat.

It's also because, as the main hero, his armor is distinctive and thus as much a part of the character. There's a limit to the customization of mechs if you intend to mass-produce them, as you would need to for a military force of any significant size.

160 Kragar  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:40:20pm

re: #157 Dark_Falcon

Yes, but he's the namesake character, so he has to survive no matter what. He has the greatest of all movie powers on his side: Producer/Writer Fiat.

Doesn't matter, you can still see nameless trooper #3 get ripped out of his perfectly reasonable full environmental armor as opposed to tossing him in BMX gear and saying "Fuck it, close enough."

I'm talking to you, Verhoeven!

161 Targetpractice  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:43:47pm

re: #160 Kragar

Doesn't matter, you can still see nameless trooper #3 get ripped out of his perfectly reasonable full environmental armor as opposed to tossing him in BMX gear and saying "Fuck it, close enough."

I'm talking to you, Verhoeven!

Well yeah, but at the same time, watching power armored soldiers drop in from orbit and reduce most of an enemy force to slag in under 30 minutes wouldn't be as "cool."

162 Kragar  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:54:45pm

re: #161 Targetpractice

Well yeah, but at the same time, watching power armored soldiers drop in from orbit and reduce most of an enemy force to slag in under 30 minutes wouldn't be as "cool."

Except the bugs defeated them in the book at the first battle of Klendathu

163 Targetpractice  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:57:09pm

re: #162 Kragar

Except the bugs defeated them in the book at the first battle of Klendathu

Quantity has a quality all of its own.

164 Kragar  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:59:44pm

re: #163 Targetpractice

Quantity has a quality all of its own.

"Statistically, you will almost certainly die when assaulting a well-maintained fortress with a competent commander. You must strive to make your death useful." - Training Manual, Imperial penal legion

165 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 8:01:06pm

re: #150 Dark_Falcon

Nixon's plan of Vietnamization might well have worked, had Nixon not ruined its chances by covering up the Watergate Burglary.

Oh really.

166 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 8:09:53pm

re: #165 Stanley Sea

Oh really.

Yes, really. Had Nixon not ruined his credibility, he would likely have been able to keep aid flowing to South Vietnam, as well as maintain the threat of air strikes if North Vietnam attacked the South again. That would have given Vietnamization a chance to work. By 1972 the Vietnam War was far more conventional than it had been in 1968, as the Viet Cong had been mostly destroyed in the Tet Offensive. The ARVN had a good chance to repel conventional offensives if they were properly supported. But Nixon threw away that chance along with his presidency, thrown away through mendacity and cluelessness to the point of stupidity.

167 Kragar  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 8:17:56pm

I think its fair to say that without Watergate, Nixon would have been remembered as one of the more noted President to have served, looking at his work with China, setting up the EPA and other environmental acts, work in Vietnam, etc.

Instead, we had Watergate and his legacy went to crap.

168 wheat-dogg  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 8:24:19pm

re: #113 Gangnam Style

No more spoilers please.

They're actually twins, and the bad guy is their father.

169 AntonSirius  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 8:44:03pm

re: #168 wheatdogg

They're actually twins, and the bad guy is their father.

I thought it was that they were twins, and the other brother hides in the second cabinet.

170 Lidane  Sun, Oct 14, 2012 8:52:18pm

re: #137 Kragar

Neo was a honeypot to trap hackers in the DMZ of the Machine Civilizations network so they could develop antivirus software to eliminate the Agent Smith rootkit.

I gave up on that series with the second film. I knew it was a bad sign when I fell asleep in the theater during the rave scene and didn't wake up until about 20 minutes before the end.

Never bothered to re-watch the second film and I've never seen the third.


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