I’m knee-deep in MySQL code, so here’s the traditional Sunday afternoon open thread, with a great song by Butch Walker with Daryl Hall and his great band.
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PhillyPretzel Sun, Oct 21, 2012 4:29:06pm |
re: #1 Only The Lurker Knows
It is evening here on the East Coast. And the local PBS station is going to be showing Baking with Julia.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Oct 21, 2012 4:32:47pm |
OT! Stephen Gostkowski kicks a last second FG to tie the Patriots with the Jets and send the game into overtime!
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Only The Lurker Knows Sun, Oct 21, 2012 4:34:39pm |
RE #2
Time Zones. How do they work?
Something for you Football fanatics.
High schooler kicks 67-yard field goal
NFL record is 63 yards.
Edited to link to the proper Video.
Thanks D.F.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Oct 21, 2012 4:37:43pm |
re: #4 Only The Lurker Knows
RE #2
Time Zones. How do they work?
Something for you Football fanatics.
High schooler kicks 67-yard field goal
NFL record is 63 yards.
That's a story about two dogs. I didn't know it was a story about the Browns and the Raiders.
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Only The Lurker Knows Sun, Oct 21, 2012 4:43:43pm |
re: #5 Dark_Falcon
Fix on the way. Thanks for pointing it out.
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Tigger2 Sun, Oct 21, 2012 4:46:52pm |
Is this what our Country is coming to because of all the Republican voter suppression efforts.
International monitors at US polling spots draw criticism from voter fraud groups
[Link: thehill.com...]
I thought only Third World Countries needed International Monitors, Thanks Republicans.
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Cheechako Sun, Oct 21, 2012 4:48:32pm |
re: #2 PhillyPretzel
It is evening here on the East Coast. And the local PBS station is going to be showing Baking with Julia.
You're lucky. We get Laurence Welk reruns!!
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Targetpractice Sun, Oct 21, 2012 4:52:47pm |
re: #7 Tigger2
Is this what our Country is coming to because of all the Republican voter suppression efforts.
International monitors at US polling spots draw criticism from voter fraud groups
[Link: thehill.com...]
Why does it not surprise me that "True the Vote" is pissed because the watchers are being watched?
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Oct 21, 2012 4:55:41pm |
And the Patriots win, 29-26. A forced fumble by Sanchez is recovered by the Patriots defense to end the Jets' drive and the game.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Oct 21, 2012 4:56:23pm |
re: #9 Targetpractice
Why does it not surprise me that "True the Vote" is pissed because the watchers are being watched?
Who Watches the Watchmen?
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PhillyPretzel Sun, Oct 21, 2012 4:58:11pm |
re: #11 Dark_Falcon
Who will guard the guardians? I have no idea.
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Tigger2 Sun, Oct 21, 2012 4:58:18pm |
re: #9 Targetpractice
Why does it not surprise me that "True the Vote" is pissed because the watchers are being watched?
The way I see it is if the Republicans really wants photo ID for voting then you don't pass laws right before an election you pass it after and them make sure everyone has it before the next election.
To me these laws were not passed for voter fraud they were passed for suppression just because of the timing.
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PhillyPretzel Sun, Oct 21, 2012 5:04:18pm |
re: #13 Tigger2
From May until a few days ago PA kept saying all voters need ID to vote; now they changed their minds. [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
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Daniel Ballard Sun, Oct 21, 2012 5:04:24pm |
re: #2 PhillyPretzel
Speaking of dinner, tonight's at RWC HQ is a page out of the LGF Cookbook volume II.
Chardonnay Chicken
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goddamnedfrank Sun, Oct 21, 2012 5:05:32pm |
re: #13 Tigger2
The way I see it is if the Republicans really wants photo ID for voting then you don't pass laws right before an election you pass it after and them make sure everyone has it before the next election.
To me these laws were not passed for voter fraud they were passed for suppression just because of the timing.
The crux of the issue is that Republican simply don't want everyone who's eligible to vote to actually vote. While they couch their rhetoric in populist terms their entire strategy is anti-democratic and openly reliant on apathy and suppression. That's how we get people predicting a depressed black voter turnout as if such a thing is inherently good, never mind that such a desire is intrinsically racist.
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Tigger2 Sun, Oct 21, 2012 5:07:31pm |
re: #14 PhillyPretzel
From May until a few days ago PA kept saying all voters need ID to vote; now they changed their minds. [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
I really liked this part. lol
So here we are a few weeks away from the general election in November and hidden away on back pages of local newspapers it is quietly stated that if you are voting in your regular polling place you do not need ID.
Kind of underhanded as far as I concerned.
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PhillyPretzel Sun, Oct 21, 2012 5:09:28pm |
re: #18 Tigger2
It was one of my co-workers that pointed this information out to me. I normally do not read the metro.
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goddamnedfrank Sun, Oct 21, 2012 5:10:51pm |
The Republicans would never go for an Australian style compulsory voting law because it would mean their extinction.
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engineer cat Sun, Oct 21, 2012 5:11:38pm |
re: #17 goddamnedfrank
The crux of the issue is that Republican simply don't want everyone who's eligible to vote to actually vote. While they couch their rhetoric in populist terms their entire strategy is anti-democratic and openly reliant on apathy and suppression. That's how we get people predicting a depressed black voter turnout as if such a thing is inherently good, never mind that such a desire is intrinsically racist.
i think all voters turning out this year will be depressed...
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Tigger2 Sun, Oct 21, 2012 5:13:51pm |
re: #21 engineer cat
i think all voters turning out this year will be depressed...
I was excited to vote for Obama again. LOL
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engineer cat Sun, Oct 21, 2012 5:16:51pm |
Gerber's Grow Up Plan
i've signed up the republican party for this
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Tigger2 Sun, Oct 21, 2012 5:20:49pm |
re: #23 engineer cat
Gerber's Grow Up Plan
i've signed up the republican party for this
LOL, Good for you, When Obama wins again I think I will buy pacifiers for a couple of my Republican friends that are neighbors.
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ProGunLiberal Sun, Oct 21, 2012 5:24:50pm |
Almost done with my ballot here. Just have the local judges.
One question on the ballot has all the infrastructure projects in the proposal listed. Question is literally over a foot long. At least they are being open.
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ProGunLiberal Sun, Oct 21, 2012 5:26:20pm |
re: #26 ProGunLiberal
19.5 inches, to be precise.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Oct 21, 2012 5:29:16pm |
re: #27 ProGunLiberal
19.5 inches, to be precise.
Honesty is the best policy, but it sure is awkward sometimes! :)
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ProGunLiberal Sun, Oct 21, 2012 5:32:29pm |
re: #28 Dark_Falcon
That was a county level question.
At least it wasn't a state proposal on infrastructure. That would have resulted in the slaughter of every tree in the Pacific Northwest.
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Big Joe Sun, Oct 21, 2012 5:37:06pm |
re: #25 Tigger2
LOL, Good for you, When Obama wins again I think I will buy pacifiers for a couple of my Republican friends that are neighbors.
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William Barnett-Lewis Sun, Oct 21, 2012 5:39:18pm |
Gah, I am so glad I do not live in California tonight. I paid off my 625 and can pick it up in the morning after my handgun 48 hour "cooling off" waiting period. But IIUC, folks in California have a 10 wait for all firearms. I'm chomping at the bit badly enough waiting 2 days for my new toy. Was that long a waiting period from the Reagan's original gun control laws or did that get added later?
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Only The Lurker Knows Sun, Oct 21, 2012 5:39:43pm |
re: #25 Tigger2
LOL, Good for you, When Obama wins again I think I will buy pacifiers for a couple of my Republican friends that are neighbors.
Be sure to get them this style.
Or just some cheap generic ones at your local Wally World.
In fact, I like your idea so much that I am going to pick up at least 6 to leave on the benches of the worst wing nuts in my shop. The ones who love to quote WND, Glenn, Rush, Et. Al. Of course, what would be better would be some miniature, black penises and a computer generated note stating that they just might to want to suck on this.
But, then again, that just may be treading into the cruel and unusual.
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Only The Lurker Knows Sun, Oct 21, 2012 5:42:17pm |
re: #30 Big Joe
$11.95 each is just a bit pricey for a bulk buy. But for one or two "special flowers" just might be worth the cost. Favorited
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dragonath Sun, Oct 21, 2012 5:42:24pm |
re: #20 goddamnedfrank
The Republicans would never go for an Australian style compulsory voting law because it would mean their extinction.
No, I don't think so. Compulsory voters still voted for the epically assholic policies of the National Party for nearly 10 years straight.
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andres Sun, Oct 21, 2012 5:43:57pm |
Sorry for going OT so fast: there might be a problem searching "Comments for Pages" for a particular user and an additional keyword. Here's the search I was doing.
(BTW, I was looking if you were using a particular software to pick up problematic queries. I think you mentioned it before, but I can't remember it well.)
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Big Joe Sun, Oct 21, 2012 5:44:12pm |
re: #34 Only The Lurker Knows
Price goes down on 2, 50% off by 12.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sun, Oct 21, 2012 5:45:52pm |
Hey everyone. Just drove 5 hours home from Morro Bay CA. Tired but it was great.
Catching up.
19.5 inches?
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ProGunLiberal Sun, Oct 21, 2012 5:47:21pm |
re: #38 Page 3 in the Binder of Women
Length of Ballot Question for County Infrastructure improvements. They have every single proposed project listed. I ain't counting the font size 4-6 little bullets, there are a lot of them.
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Gus Sun, Oct 21, 2012 5:49:30pm |
Photo: Daniel Day Lewis is the lead in @lincolnmovie, a film that's been over 10 years in the making for Spielberg twitter.com/60Minutes/stat...— 60 Minutes (@60Minutes) October 22, 2012
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b_sharp Sun, Oct 21, 2012 5:49:59pm |
re: #38 Page 3 in the Binder of Women
Hey everyone. Just drove 5 hours home from Morro Bay CA. Tired but it was great.
Catching up.
19.5 inches?
Obviously a shower not a grower.
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ProGunLiberal Sun, Oct 21, 2012 5:51:58pm |
And in my most recent page, I created a new verb.
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Lidane Sun, Oct 21, 2012 5:55:13pm |
Salt Lake Tribune endorsement: Too Many Mitts
In considering which candidate to endorse, The Salt Lake Tribune editorial board had hoped that Romney would exhibit the same talents for organization, pragmatic problem solving and inspired leadership that he displayed here more than a decade ago. Instead, we have watched him morph into a friend of the far right, then tack toward the center with breathtaking aplomb. Through a pair of presidential debates, Romney’s domestic agenda remains bereft of detail and worthy of mistrust.
Therefore, our endorsement must go to the incumbent, a competent leader who, against tough odds, has guided the country through catastrophe and set a course that, while rocky, is pointing toward a brighter day. The president has earned a second term. Romney, in whatever guise, does not deserve a first.
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Charles Johnson Sun, Oct 21, 2012 5:56:16pm |
re: #36 andres
Thanks, I know what caused that.
Amazing how different some of the optimizations are for the new servers versus the old servers. Some stuff that worked really fast on the old servers causes the new ones to choke, and vice versa.
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Digital Display Sun, Oct 21, 2012 5:56:53pm |
re: #13 Tigger2
The way I see it is if the Republicans really wants photo ID for voting then you don't pass laws right before an election you pass it after and them make sure everyone has it before the next election.
To me these laws were not passed for voter fraud they were passed for suppression just because of the timing.
I wish I had saved this article about fraud convictions, 19 people got busted in all.
A few months ago I got a voter card for a girl named Whitney. So I've got 2 voter ID's in my hot little hands.
As a new 2 yr. dem I feel it is my duty to vote twice. Well the whole black cocktail dress, wig, high heels won't be my best look..
It's not really worth 5 years in Jail. If I'm risking going to jail it's going to be for something big! BIG! Like investing in a Coke Sub and buying a beach in Mexico with a Cantina and discounts for the Secret Service.
//
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Oct 21, 2012 5:57:04pm |
re: #38 Page 3 in the Binder of Women
Hey everyone. Just drove 5 hours home from Morro Bay CA. Tired but it was great.
Catching up.
19.5 inches?
If I were a cruder man...
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Charles Johnson Sun, Oct 21, 2012 5:58:32pm |
I've now optimized the queries for the Featured Pages and Recent Pages panels, when you click the More button at the bottom. Those functions should work very fast now.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Oct 21, 2012 5:59:40pm |
No one ever could twist George McGovern’s arm — either when he was wrong or when he was right. The prairie populist was his own man throughout his career, and the Democratic party and the country are both the poorer for his loss.
- The closing paragraph of John Fund's eulogy for George McGovern.
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dragonath Sun, Oct 21, 2012 6:01:21pm |
re: #49 Dark_Falcon
Good thing Mark Steyn didn't write that eulogy.
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ProGunLiberal Sun, Oct 21, 2012 6:02:20pm |
Hey Gus, what is the context behind your most recent retweet?
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ProGunLiberal Sun, Oct 21, 2012 6:04:33pm |
Destro can't even spell Libya right. Says volumes. The spelling he did phonetically sounds like something anatomical that is not proper on this blog.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Oct 21, 2012 6:06:16pm |
re: #50 dragonath
Good thing Mark Steyn didn't write that eulogy.
Rich Lowry would not have permitted that. Steyn had some very witty obits for the Atlantic Monthly, but McGovern's passing calls for a more sober and reflective style. Moreover, Steyn has gotten angrier since then and might not have been able to turn in the respectful piece needed. Yes, NR made the right choice giving the obit to Fund.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Oct 21, 2012 6:07:41pm |
re: #52 ProGunLiberal
Destro can't even spell Libya right. Says volumes. The spelling he did phonetically sounds like something anatomical that is not proper on this blog.
He's out to vent his anger and stir shit up. That often makes one fairly DERPy.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Oct 21, 2012 6:10:51pm |
re: #29 ProGunLiberal
That was a county level question.
At least it wasn't a state proposal on infrastructure. That would have resulted in the slaughter of every tree in the Pacific Northwest.
The Florida ballot in the Miami area is 10 pages. The Miami-Dade commissioners have voted $170,000 for postage of absentee ballots. It would have cost individuals more than a dollar if the vote had failed.
[Link: florida.mediatrackers.org...]
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Gus Sun, Oct 21, 2012 6:12:06pm |
re: #56 Dark_Falcon
He's out to vent his anger and stir shit up. That often makes one fairly DERPy.
Getting down dinged becomes a bit of a vicious cycle. The more one gets down dinged the more irrational they seem to become. Sometimes it's better to walk away.
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dragonath Sun, Oct 21, 2012 6:14:05pm |
re: #58 Gus
I think I got downdinged by Destro once because I said SanFranciscoZionist was a good poster.
lol
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ozbloke Sun, Oct 21, 2012 6:14:50pm |
re: #20 goddamnedfrank
The Republicans would never go for an Australian style compulsory voting law because it would mean their extinction.
Gday GDF,
Just for accuracy.
Voting isn't compulsory in Australia.
Everyone over 18 must be registered to vote, and you must go to a polling station and have your name marked off the roll.
Whether you vote after that is up to you.
This does mean that most who cross their name off do vote.
You can get a fine for not getting your name crossed off, however they accept a lot of excuses for why you didn't and remove the fine.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Oct 21, 2012 6:15:31pm |
re: #60 ozbloke
Gday GDF,
Just for accuracy.
Voting isn't compulsory in Australia.Everyone over 18 must be registered to vote, and you must go to a polling station and have your name marked off the roll.
Whether you vote after that is up to you.
This does mean that most who cross their name off do vote.You can get a fine for not getting your name crossed off, however they accept a lot of excuses for why you didn't and remove the fine.
Good enough.
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b_sharp Sun, Oct 21, 2012 6:15:43pm |
re: #59 dragonath
I think I got downdinged by Destro once because I said SanFranciscoZionist was a good poster.
lol
I think someone needs to grow up.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Oct 21, 2012 6:15:56pm |
re: #58 Gus
Getting down dinged becomes a bit of a vicious cycle. The more one gets down dinged the more irrational they seem to become. Sometimes it's better to walk away.
And yet I find I cannot walk a away when someone accuses me of being an al-Qaeda sympathizer for saying that I hope the FSA defeats Bashar Assad. It's the kind of ugly accusation that trips my trigger.
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b_sharp Sun, Oct 21, 2012 6:16:52pm |
re: #60 ozbloke
Gday GDF,
Just for accuracy.
Voting isn't compulsory in Australia.Everyone over 18 must be registered to vote, and you must go to a polling station and have your name marked off the roll.
Whether you vote after that is up to you.
This does mean that most who cross their name off do vote.You can get a fine for not getting your name crossed off, however they accept a lot of excuses for why you didn't and remove the fine.
I pooped my pants and didn't have clean underwear.
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Gus Sun, Oct 21, 2012 6:17:26pm |
re: #63 Dark_Falcon
And yet I find I cannot walk a away when someone accuses me of being an al-Qaeda sympathizer for saying that I hope the FSA defeats Bashar Assad. It's the kind of ugly accusation that trips my trigger.
Damn. That's bad.
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b_sharp Sun, Oct 21, 2012 6:18:11pm |
re: #64 Charles Johnson
The Walking Dead is on. Ssshhh.
[Whisper] I just got my wife hooked on The Walking Dead. [/Whisper]
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ozbloke Sun, Oct 21, 2012 6:19:30pm |
re: #61 Decatur Deb
Good enough.
Absolutely, I think everyone should vote.
I think we vote in the high 90 odd percent here.
Don't vote, don't complain...
Yeah, I know the George Carlin video.
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Charles Johnson Sun, Oct 21, 2012 6:20:18pm |
re: #63 Dark_Falcon
I know the feeling. Several right wing bloggers are now trying to promote the idea that I "defended Al Qaeda" by reporting the latest news about Benghazi from the CIA.
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wrenchwench Sun, Oct 21, 2012 6:21:34pm |
Steve King: Comparing Immigrants To Dogs Was 'A Compliment'
GOP Rep.: Comparing Immigrants To Dogs Was 'A Compliment' #immigration #latism huff.to/RNWMcR— Russell Contreras (@RussContreras) October 22, 2012
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goddamnedfrank Sun, Oct 21, 2012 6:21:40pm |
re: #60 ozbloke
Gday GDF,
Just for accuracy.
Voting isn't compulsory in Australia.Everyone over 18 must be registered to vote, and you must go to a polling station and have your name marked off the roll.
Whether you vote after that is up to you.
This does mean that most who cross their name off do vote.You can get a fine for not getting your name crossed off, however they accept a lot of excuses for why you didn't and remove the fine.
With absentee and early voting so prevalent now I think a simple solution here would be to give a $500 refundable tax credit to anyone is listed as having voted. It could be paid for many times over by removing deductions on second home mortgages and eliminating the distinction between earned and unearned income.
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dragonath Sun, Oct 21, 2012 6:22:34pm |
re: #70 wrenchwench
Steve King: Comparing Immigrants To Dogs Was 'A Compliment'
[Embedded content]
Comparing Steve King to dogs would be an insult.
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Tigger2 Sun, Oct 21, 2012 6:24:05pm |
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Gus Sun, Oct 21, 2012 6:25:39pm |
I don't get it. Steve King is so, un-Iowa to me. He's like this northeast precinct captain. Like he's from Long Island.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Oct 21, 2012 6:26:17pm |
re: #69 Charles Johnson
I know the feeling. Several right wing bloggers are now trying to promote the idea that I "defended Al Qaeda" by reporting the latest news about Benghazi from the CIA.
They are assholes for doing so. We disagree on many things these days, but your commitment to Al-Qaeda being demolished has never wavered in the 5 years I've been posting here. Anyone calling you a terrorist sympathizer is the biggest liar since Bernie Madoff.
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Tigger2 Sun, Oct 21, 2012 6:26:32pm |
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wrenchwench Sun, Oct 21, 2012 6:27:04pm |
Later, lizards.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Oct 21, 2012 6:28:12pm |
re: #71 goddamnedfrank
With absentee and early voting so prevalent now I think a simple solution here would be to give a $500 refundable tax credit to anyone is listed as having voted. It could be paid for many times over by removing deductions on second home mortgages and eliminating the distinction between earned and unearned income.
No. If people vote it should without expectation of reward (or penalty) for having voted. Someone who votes primarily to get a tax credit should not be voting.
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ozbloke Sun, Oct 21, 2012 6:28:54pm |
re: #65 Gangnam Style
I pooped my pants and didn't have clean underwear.
People often say they consider none worthy, and that's the end of it.
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dragonfire1981 Sun, Oct 21, 2012 6:29:06pm |
re: #70 wrenchwench
Steve King: Comparing Immigrants To Dogs Was 'A Compliment'
[Embedded content]
A complimentary insult perhaps.
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ProGunLiberal Sun, Oct 21, 2012 6:29:48pm |
re: #63 Dark_Falcon
No one should be called that. What country is he in? Could he be George Galloway? :P
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Tigger2 Sun, Oct 21, 2012 6:30:46pm |
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ozbloke Sun, Oct 21, 2012 6:30:50pm |
re: #71 goddamnedfrank
With absentee and early voting so prevalent now I think a simple solution here would be to give a $500 refundable tax credit to anyone is listed as having voted. It could be paid for many times over by removing deductions on second home mortgages and eliminating the distinction between earned and unearned income.
We don't do week day voting here, all voting is on a Saturday, and yes you can vote early or absentee.
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b_sharp Sun, Oct 21, 2012 6:31:19pm |
re: #84 Tigger2
I really liked Daniel Day Lewis in The Last Of The Mohicans.
Any zombies in that movie?
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Gus Sun, Oct 21, 2012 6:31:51pm |
re: #84 Tigger2
I really liked Daniel Day Lewis in The Last Of The Mohicans.
My Left foot and of course Gangs of New York.
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dragonfire1981 Sun, Oct 21, 2012 6:32:37pm |
re: #86 Gangnam Style
Any zombies in that movie?
Now there's something I'm not sure has been done yet...zombie Native Americans.
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Sheila Broflovski Sun, Oct 21, 2012 6:33:46pm |
I'm watching NLCS now. Giants are up 5-0.
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Tigger2 Sun, Oct 21, 2012 6:34:19pm |
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goddamnedfrank Sun, Oct 21, 2012 6:37:02pm |
re: #80 Dark_Falcon
No. If people vote it should without expectation of reward (or penalty) for having voted. Someone who votes primarily to get a tax credit should not be voting.
"Someone who works primarily for the financial rewards shouldn't be working."
Simplistic nonsense, as long as the benefits don't determine the vote / opinion it doesn't count for any less simply because there are benefits to expressing it. If the Republican Party was genuinely the more popular party you'd support the idea, instead you oppose it because you're self described as "anti-egalitarian." You actually hope that the black vote is depressed, which is incredibly disgusting.
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Tigger2 Sun, Oct 21, 2012 6:37:53pm |
re: #90 Gus
Lincoln Official Trailer #1 (2012) Steven Spielberg Movie HD
[Embedded content]
Looks like it will be awesome.
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Tigger2 Sun, Oct 21, 2012 6:44:08pm |
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Oct 21, 2012 6:46:28pm |
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Daniel Ballard Sun, Oct 21, 2012 6:47:13pm |
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Tigger2 Sun, Oct 21, 2012 6:47:35pm |
re: #100 Gus
Book marked this...
[Link: www.airliners.net...]
My dad flew one of these in WW2.
[Link: media.photobucket.com...]
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Decatur Deb Sun, Oct 21, 2012 6:48:03pm |
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Gus Sun, Oct 21, 2012 6:48:35pm |
De Havilland DH-98 Mosquito FB26 Photographer: Gavin Conroy Airliners.net #Avgeek twitter.com/Gus_802/status...— Gus (@Gus_802) October 22, 2012
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Daniel Ballard Sun, Oct 21, 2012 6:49:56pm |
re: #109 Gus
Nice!
We saw some cool aircraft at the California Science center today. SR71, F-20, T-33. Oh and all 3 space capsules.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Oct 21, 2012 6:50:34pm |
re: #109 Gus
[Embedded content]
Incredibly fast, and with four 20mm cannons plus four .303 Brownings that bird packed a punch.
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Gus Sun, Oct 21, 2012 6:52:56pm |
re: #112 Tigger2
Fixed it.
I used to know a woman whose dad flew a B-17. Met another that flew the B-24. On other flew a B-29 in China. McGovern flew a B-24 Liberator. Ford built. ;)
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darthstar Sun, Oct 21, 2012 6:53:48pm |
re: #109 Gus
[Embedded content]
There was a beautiful cherry red airplane at Half Moon Bay airport the other morning - circa 1940s-50s - probably 2 seater (could have been four - long cockpit) - single prop. I almost stopped to take a pic for you so you could identify it. Looked a lot like the pic in your avatar, only less muscle-carish.
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b_sharp Sun, Oct 21, 2012 6:53:50pm |
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Tigger2 Sun, Oct 21, 2012 6:55:32pm |
re: #113 Gus
I used to know a woman whose dad flew a B-17. Met another that flew the B-24. On other flew a B-29 in China. McGovern flew a B-24 Liberator. Ford built. ;)
Were I live we have an airshow one a year, for the 2 days it's on a B-17 and B-24 are always flying over my house giving rides to the people that go to the show.
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b_sharp Sun, Oct 21, 2012 6:55:58pm |
re: #103 Tigger2
My dad flew one of these in WW2.
[Link: media.photobucket.com...]
Nice bucket, but how well does it dogfight?
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Decatur Deb Sun, Oct 21, 2012 6:57:54pm |
re: #118 Gangnam Style
Nice bucket, but how well does it dogfight?
Did he fly in that unit? "Square J" is the 390th BG, Decatur Deb was one of them, flying from Framlingham.
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Tigger2 Sun, Oct 21, 2012 6:58:25pm |
re: #118 Gangnam Style
Nice bucket, but how well does it dogfight?
For being a bomber when they went into the box formation they did pretty good against attacking fighters.
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Gus Sun, Oct 21, 2012 6:58:34pm |
re: #115 darthstar
There was a beautiful cherry red airplane at Half Moon Bay airport the other morning - circa 1940s-50s - probably 2 seater (could have been four - long cockpit) - single prop. I almost stopped to take a pic for you so you could identify it. Looked a lot like the pic in your avatar, only less muscle-carish.
Mongo like muscle car.
Behind that is "Comfortably Numb."
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Oct 21, 2012 7:00:56pm |
re: #118 Gangnam Style
Nice bucket, but how well does it dogfight?
With 12 .50 cals and at least a two ton bombload, she ain't the sort of lady you want to tick off!
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Oct 21, 2012 7:02:28pm |
re: #121 Gus
Mongo like muscle car.
Behind that is "Comfortably Numb."
That looks like a C-141 behind the P-51, if my eyes are correct.
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Tigger2 Sun, Oct 21, 2012 7:03:35pm |
re: #119 Decatur Deb
Did he fly in that unit? "Square J" is the 390th BG, Decatur Deb was one of them, flying from Framlingham.
Deb to tell you the truth I don't know, my mom and dad were divorced when I was 4 and I never saw him much after. but he was based somewhere in europe because we used to have a lot of pics he took flying over Rome.
I just picked a pic of a B-17 that is not the exact plane he flew.
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Gus Sun, Oct 21, 2012 7:03:57pm |
re: #123 Dark_Falcon
That looks like a C-141 behind the P-51, if my eyes are correct.
C-17
I used to see the 141s at McGuire. Long gone.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Oct 21, 2012 7:05:43pm |
re: #124 Tigger2
Deb to tell you the truth I don't know, my mom and dad were divorced when I was 4 and I never saw him much after. but he was based somewhere in europe because we used to have a lot of pics he took flying over Rome.
He was probably 15th Air Force then. 390th was part of the 8th.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Oct 21, 2012 7:07:08pm |
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Decatur Deb Sun, Oct 21, 2012 7:07:08pm |
re: #125 Gus
C-17
I used to see the 141s at McGuire. Long gone.
Flew over Troy (Ilium) in a C141 out of Bandirma. Felt weird.
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William Barnett-Lewis Sun, Oct 21, 2012 7:15:10pm |
re: #118 Gangnam Style
Nice bucket, but how well does it dogfight?
Ask the crew of Old 666...
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Oct 21, 2012 7:16:24pm |
re: #131 Gus
Not a surprise. I've come to understand that combat pilots and aircrew tend to be very tech-savvy, even when elderly. They became tech-savvy because they had to be, because not knowing both your tech and the enemy's was liable to get you killed.
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Obdicut Sun, Oct 21, 2012 7:16:42pm |
How long is Romney going to keep Corsi around? Is he a permanent part of the Romney press corps now?
It's really bizarre that Romney thinks this is acceptable.
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b_sharp Sun, Oct 21, 2012 7:16:55pm |
They just don't do wars like they used to.
It's interesting how we idolize some of the most powerful weapons man has ever devised. As a kid I so wanted to be a jet pilot, and I still consider aircraft like the Spitfire, Voodoo, CF-18 as some of the most impressive and frankly beautiful artifacts built by humans.
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Obdicut Sun, Oct 21, 2012 7:18:05pm |
re: #133 Dark_Falcon
Chuck Yeager survived several malfunctions in test aircraft solely because he kept himself highly technically informed about them and was able to restart them from failure in flight.
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Gus Sun, Oct 21, 2012 7:18:17pm |
re: #135 Gangnam Style
They just don't do wars like they used to.
It's interesting how we idolize some of the most powerful weapons man has ever devised. As a kid I so wanted to be a jet pilot, and I still consider aircraft like the Spitfire, Voodoo, CF-18 as some of the most impressive and frankly beautiful artifacts built by humans.
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ozbloke Sun, Oct 21, 2012 7:18:37pm |
re: #90 Gus
Lincoln Official Trailer #1 (2012) Steven Spielberg Movie HD
[Embedded content]
Can't wait, looks epic.
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freetoken Sun, Oct 21, 2012 7:19:25pm |
re: #138 ozbloke
I wonder how Spielberg will handle the vampires.
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ozbloke Sun, Oct 21, 2012 7:20:11pm |
re: #139 freetoken
I wonder how Spielberg will handle the vampires.
Vampires? No problem.
Its the zombies I'm worried about.
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Tigger2 Sun, Oct 21, 2012 7:20:18pm |
re: #126 Decatur Deb
He was probably 15th Air Force then. 390th was part of the 8th.
I used to have 5 pieces of flak shrapnel they took out of his legs, but have lost them over the years.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Oct 21, 2012 7:20:22pm |
re: #132 William Barnett-Lewis
Ask the crew of Old 666...
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
The Zero did fairly poorly against the B-17E and F (the B-17G was not deployed to the Pacific, from what I have read) and the B-24. It's lack of armor and self sealing fuel tanks left it very vulnerable to being set on fire by Armor-Piercing Incendiary (API) rounds fired by the B-17's .50 cals.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Oct 21, 2012 7:22:05pm |
re: #137 Gus
[Embedded content]
Is that from "The Russians Are Coming"? The later (late 50s) editions of the Blackhawk comics featured the Voodoo.
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Gus Sun, Oct 21, 2012 7:22:32pm |
re: #144 Decatur Deb
Is that from "The Russians Are Coming"? The later (late 50s) editions of the Blackhawk comics featured the Voodoo.
It is indeed.
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b_sharp Sun, Oct 21, 2012 7:22:34pm |
re: #137 Gus
[Embedded content]
As a kid I used to build plastic models, and at the time the RCAF used CF-101 Voodoos, so I had several different Voodoo models hanging from my ceiling.
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b_sharp Sun, Oct 21, 2012 7:23:50pm |
re: #141 ozbloke
Vampires? No problem.
Its the zombies I'm worried about.
Same here. They can be tough to kill, even when they're already mostly dead.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Oct 21, 2012 7:25:15pm |
re: #139 freetoken
I wonder how Spielberg will handle the vampires.
He's going to barricade himself in his mansion. Vampires have a special liking for feeding on liberals. The liberal's bleeding heart making it easier for a vampire to feed off of them.
///
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Decatur Deb Sun, Oct 21, 2012 7:26:17pm |
re: #142 Tigger2
I used to have 5 pieces of flak shrapnel they took out of his legs, but have lost them over the years.
Saw a spooky newstory this weekend. The family of a WWII vet never knew how shot up he was until they recently cremated him and found the shrapnel in his ashes.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Oct 21, 2012 7:26:26pm |
re: #147 Gangnam Style
Same here. They can be tough to kill, even when they're already mostly dead.
There is no zombie problem that cannot be solved by the intelligent use of high explosives.
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Shiplord Kirel Sun, Oct 21, 2012 7:26:35pm |
I've added some pictures to my page on the vandalism of Obama signs in Lubbock. One was blasted with buckshot, the other covered with dozens of hand-scrawled racial slurs. This happened on the busiest street in town, just 7 blocks from the Texas Tech campus.
I have a bad feeling about this. Wingnuts should not imagine they have a monopoly on guns. Just saying.
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freetoken Sun, Oct 21, 2012 7:26:46pm |
I'm disgusted with the Foreign Policy "debate".
Yeah, I know, it hasn't happened yet, but we already know the six "questions", and given the previous debates and already publicized positions we know what is going to happen.
Incredibly, according to the format and the questions, most of the world doesn't exist.
This whole debate thing is a sad, sad statement about "democracy" in America. Instead of discussing issues what is important is the popularity the next day. These "debates" are more like DWTS voting than anything about actual policy and the future of these United States.
Supreme Court decisions? Sorry, too boring.
The obstinate Senate blocking several important treaties? Who cares!
Trading relations with our neighbors? Mañana.
Big picture stuff (e.g., climate change, global disease eradication efforts, space travel, etc.)? B O R I N G.
But, we'll have a zillion polls the next day telling us who "won". At least ABC gives voters 9 votes (well, I think they're down to 8 this week) per phone line for DWTS. Maybe the pollsters should do likewise for their favorite demographics?
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Tigger2 Sun, Oct 21, 2012 7:28:45pm |
re: #151 Shiplord Kirel
I've added some pictures to my page on the vandalism of Obama signs in Lubbock. One was blasted with buckshot, the other covered with dozens of hand-scrawled racial slurs. This happened on the busiest street in town, just 7 blocks from the Texas Tech campus.
I have a bad feeling about this. Wingnuts should not imagine they have a monopoly on guns. Just saying.
I've had guns since I was 8 lol.
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Gus Sun, Oct 21, 2012 7:30:30pm |
Jonathan Winters As An Airline Pilot: youtu.be/dGorCSnIHF4 via @youtube— Gus (@Gus_802) October 22, 2012
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Tigger2 Sun, Oct 21, 2012 7:30:41pm |
re: #149 Decatur Deb
Saw a spooky newstory this weekend. The family of a WWII vet never knew how shot up he was until they recently cremated him and found the shrapnel in his ashes.
Deb I just looked at his old uniform jacket it has the 15th on his shoulder patch.
And I still have his wings somewhere around the house.
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b_sharp Sun, Oct 21, 2012 7:32:45pm |
re: #153 Tigger2
I've had guns since I was 8 lol.
Got my first, and only, gun at 11. I still have it.
Got my first bow at 8. Now I have 7.
Even with all those weapons, I have never shot myself in the foot.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Oct 21, 2012 7:32:46pm |
re: #152 freetoken
I'm disgusted with the Foreign Policy "debate".
Yeah, I know, it hasn't happened yet, but we already know the six "questions", and given the previous debates and already publicized positions we know what is going to happen.
Incredibly, according to the format and the questions, most of the world doesn't exist.
This whole debate thing is a sad, sad statement about "democracy" in America. Instead of discussing issues what is important is the popularity the next day. These "debates" are more like DWTS voting than anything about actual policy and the future of these United States.
Supreme Court decisions? Sorry, too boring.
The obstinate Senate blocking several important treaties? Who cares!
Trading relations with our neighbors? Mañana.
Big picture stuff (e.g., climate change, global disease eradication efforts, space travel, etc.)? B O R I N G.
But, we'll have a zillion polls the next day telling us who "won". At least ABC gives voters 9 votes (well, I think they're down to 8 this week) per phone line for DWTS. Maybe the pollsters should do likewise for their favorite demographics?
American campaigns are very scripted. Neither the Romney nor the Obama campaign would tolerate moderator questions that they did not have a decent idea about in advance. And the news agencies will not challenge this because they do not wish to lose their access.
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sagehen Sun, Oct 21, 2012 7:33:10pm |
On "Night of 100 Stars" -- autism fundraiser, hosted by Jon Stewart...
Currently, debate between Chris Matthews and Bill O'Reilly, moderated by John King. The rules -- whoever's speaking has to inhale helium, and they can only speak for as long as they have helium voice.
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MittDoesNotCompute Sun, Oct 21, 2012 7:34:34pm |
re: #159 sagehen
On "Night of 100 Stars" -- autism fundraiser, hosted by Jon Stewart...
Currently, debate between Chris Matthews and Bill O'Reilly, moderated by John King. The rules -- whoever's speaking has to inhale helium, and they can only speak for as long as they have helium voice.
LOL...
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Tigger2 Sun, Oct 21, 2012 7:35:10pm |
re: #158 Decatur Deb
Do you have children?
I had one but she is grown and has a daughter of her own now.
I'm 60 Deb.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Oct 21, 2012 7:36:39pm |
re: #161 Tigger2
I had one but she is grown and has a daughter of her own now.
Don't lose the wings.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Oct 21, 2012 7:37:24pm |
re: #148 Dark_Falcon
He's going to barricade himself in his mansion. Vampires have a special liking for feeding on liberals. The liberal's bleeding heart making it easier for a vampire to feed off of them.
///
If you WILL wear your heart on your sleeve, the vampires can track you down easier.
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Tigger2 Sun, Oct 21, 2012 7:37:40pm |
re: #162 Decatur Deb
Don't lose the wings.
I wont, they are put up they are prob in my filing cabinet.
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sagehen Sun, Oct 21, 2012 7:38:43pm |
re: #151 Shiplord Kirel
I've added some pictures to my page on the vandalism of Obama signs in Lubbock. One was blasted with buckshot, the other covered with dozens of hand-scrawled racial slurs. This happened on the busiest street in town, just 7 blocks from the Texas Tech campus.
I have a bad feeling about this. Wingnuts should not imagine they have a monopoly on guns. Just saying.
Wingnuts don't imagine they have a monopoly on guns... there's 100,000 bangers in Los Angeles alone with at least 2 weapons each.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Oct 21, 2012 7:39:19pm |
re: #157 Dark_Falcon
American campaigns are very scripted. Neither the Romney nor the Obama campaign would tolerate moderator questions that they did not have a decent idea about in advance. And the news agencies will not challenge this because they do not wish to lose their access.
The candidates and political establishment are also happy with this arrangement. Most of the "debate" revolves around fictional differences, clever sound bites and zingers. It would be much more difficult and politically dangerous to explain hard choices, complex situations and would be disastrous for candidates to actually admit they agree with each other on most issues. This is the nonsense we damand and this is the nonsense we get. We wouldn't settle for anything less.
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Tigger2 Sun, Oct 21, 2012 7:39:39pm |
re: #158 Decatur Deb
Do you have children?
I never worried about my daughter around my guns, I taught her to shoot and gun safety when she was 9 years old.
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b_sharp Sun, Oct 21, 2012 7:39:59pm |
re: #161 Tigger2
I had one but she is grown and has a daughter of her own now.
I'm 60 Deb.
Damn, we have a lot of old farts here.
I'm 57.
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MittDoesNotCompute Sun, Oct 21, 2012 7:40:50pm |
re: #168 Gangnam Style
Damn, we have a lot of old farts here.
I'm 57.
Can I be a young fart?
/37 here
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Oct 21, 2012 7:42:02pm |
re: #167 Tigger2
I never worried about my daughter around my guns, I taught her to shoot and gun safety when she was 9 years old.
All children should be taught gun safety, for their own sake.
Nothing teaches you to take a gun seriously like the noise and the recoil.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Oct 21, 2012 7:42:49pm |
re: #167 Tigger2
I never worried about my daughter around my guns, I taught her to shoot and gun safety when she was 9 years old.
Was thinking of the wings--I'm 68, have never seen a trace of my dad. Found his reburial site in France, online.
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Obdicut Sun, Oct 21, 2012 7:42:59pm |
re: #166 Killgore Trout
Obama and Romney don't agree on most issues. Not even close. I think this is probably the stupidest thing you've ever said.
Even if you just restrict it to foreign policy, it's massively wrong.
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b_sharp Sun, Oct 21, 2012 7:43:45pm |
re: #170 Mostly sane, most of the time.
All children should be taught gun safety, for their own sake.
Nothing teaches you to take a gun seriously like the noise and the recoil.
12 gauge, full choke.
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sagehen Sun, Oct 21, 2012 7:43:47pm |
re: #173 Obdicut
Obama and Romney don't agree on most issues. Not even close. I think this is probably the stupidest thing you've ever said.
Even if you just restrict it to foreign policy, it's massively wrong.
The one thing they agree on, I vehemently disagree with both (hint: Jesus.)
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Tigger2 Sun, Oct 21, 2012 7:44:02pm |
re: #170 Mostly sane, most of the time.
All children should be taught gun safety, for their own sake.
Nothing teaches you to take a gun seriously like the noise and the recoil.
I taught her well, I learned well and from professionals, I was on a competition rifle team when I was 8.
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b_sharp Sun, Oct 21, 2012 7:45:54pm |
re: #176 Tigger2
I taught her well, I learned well and from professionals, I was on a competition rifle team when I was 8.
Cool.
I'm a really good shot too. I once hit the broad side of a barn at 20 metres.
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Tigger2 Sun, Oct 21, 2012 7:46:50pm |
re: #177 Gangnam Style
Cool.
I'm a really good shot too. I once hit the broad side of a barn at 20 metres.
LOL
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Only The Lurker Knows Sun, Oct 21, 2012 7:47:18pm |
Night Lizards. As always, May The Deity Of Your Choice Smile Down Upon You And Yours.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Sun, Oct 21, 2012 7:48:10pm |
re: #134 Obdicut
How long is Romney going to keep Corsi around? Is he a permanent part of the Romney press corps now?
It's really bizarre that Romney thinks this is acceptable.
No, it's really bizarre that the MSM lets him get away with it. If Obama had crackpot Louis Farrakhan on his plane it would be national news.
This whole campaign is an exercise in the double standards for Democrats and Republicans in this country and for a white man vs a black man. What Romney's whiteness and his being a Republican has allowed him to get away with is shameful.
Even when Obama wins, I'm still going to need anger management classes. I've never been this pissed in my life.
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darthstar Sun, Oct 21, 2012 7:49:13pm |
Yes...game 7 tomorrow night. I'll be there. Go Giants!
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Gus Sun, Oct 21, 2012 7:49:28pm |
re: #166 Killgore Trout
The candidates and political establishment are also happy with this arrangement. Most of the "debate" revolves around fictional differences, clever sound bites and zingers. It would be much more difficult and politically dangerous to explain hard choices, complex situations and would be disastrous for candidates to actually admit they agree with each other on most issues. This is the nonsense we damand and this is the nonsense we get. We wouldn't settle for anything less.
The fictional difference KT is that Romney will nominate a conservative judge for the SCOTUS. Twice. Think about that and your uterus. No wait. You don't have one.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Sun, Oct 21, 2012 7:50:08pm |
re: #175 sagehen
The one thing they agree on, I vehemently disagree with both (hint: Jesus.)
Romney is a Mormon. They don't agree on Jesus either.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Sun, Oct 21, 2012 7:50:59pm |
re: #173 Obdicut
Obama and Romney don't agree on most issues. Not even close. I think this is probably the stupidest thing you've ever said.
Even if you just restrict it to foreign policy, it's massively wrong.
Well in fairness to Willard, we don't really know what he believes about anything now do we.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Oct 21, 2012 7:51:10pm |
re: #177 Gangnam Style
Cool.
I'm a really good shot too. I once hit the broad side of a barn at 20 metres.
That's why God gave us 9-ball buckshot.
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Tigger2 Sun, Oct 21, 2012 7:51:27pm |
re: #178 Tigger2
LOL
When I was young the YMCA where I lived had a 22 cal rifle club where they taught safety, if you scored in the top 10 of the club you used to get to travel to the other YMCAs in the state that had Rifle clubs and compete against them. It was a lot of fun for a kid glad I got to do it.
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freetoken Sun, Oct 21, 2012 7:53:45pm |
re: #175 sagehen
The one thing they agree on, I vehemently disagree with both (hint: Jesus.)
re: #183 moderatelyradicalliberal
Romney is a Mormon. They don't agree on Jesus either.
Heh, no kidding. According to the Mormon's "Jesus" is a sibling of Satan (and perhaps some others) and are part of some big master play. For the "liberal" Christian like Obama the person they refer to as "Jesus" was a nice guy and good teacher who ran into nasty problems with power authorities. Neither are the same as Western orthodoxy, but likewise the two are quite different.
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ProGunLiberal Sun, Oct 21, 2012 7:57:15pm |
re: #167 Tigger2
While I would like to have a gun, a bottoming out mental health wise in July means it is highly unlikely I will be able to. While I certainly am worried about what the other side will do if Obama wins, I also worry about a Katrina-Scale Disaster, or worse.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Oct 21, 2012 7:58:09pm |
re: #187 freetoken
re: #183 moderatelyradicalliberal
Heh, no kidding. According to the Mormon's "Jesus" is a sibling of Satan (and perhaps some others) and are part of some big master play. For the "liberal" Christian like Obama the person they refer to as "Jesus" was a nice guy and good teacher who ran into nasty problems with power authorities. Neither are the same as Western orthodoxy, but likewise the two are quite different.
We're all spiritually brothers and sisters, according to our theology. What separates us is our choices.* (This is why we refer to each other as Brother and Sister instead of Mr. and Mrs.)
*yes, with mitigation for insanity and the like
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Obdicut Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:01:51pm |
re: #189 Mostly sane, most of the time.
I think the "God became God" part of Mormon theology is probably what most dramatically separates it from mainstream Christian theology.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:02:38pm |
re: #189 Mostly sane, most of the time.
We're all spiritually brothers and sisters, according to our theology. What separates us is our choices.* (This is why we refer to each other as Brother and Sister instead of Mr. and Mrs.)
*yes, with mitigation for insanity and the like
For the record. I don't think religion should be an issue at all. Everybody has some sort of mythology they believe in be it religious, cultural or political.
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goddamnedfrank Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:03:07pm |
re: #188 ProGunLiberal
While I would like to have a gun, a bottoming out mental health wise in July means it is highly unlikely I will be able to. While I certainly am worried about what the other side will do if Obama wins, I also worry about a Katrina-Scale Disaster, or worse.
Were you involuntarily committed or convicted of a felony? If not there's no reason you can't buy a gun. Which isn't to say that you should buy a gun.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:04:36pm |
re: #188 ProGunLiberal
While I would like to have a gun, a bottoming out mental health wise in July means it is highly unlikely I will be able to. While I certainly am worried about what the other side will do if Obama wins, I also worry about a Katrina-Scale Disaster, or worse.
You weren't found mentally incompetent or anything. I do not believe you can be denied a firearms purchase simply because you sought counseling.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:05:03pm |
re: #182 Gus
The fictional difference KT is that Romney will nominate a conservative judge for the SCOTUS. Twice. Think about that and your uterus. No wait. You don't have one.
[Link: imgur.com...]
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ProGunLiberal Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:05:38pm |
re: #192 goddamnedfrank
Because of people here deserting me, I found out exactly how low any believer can go in emotional health. One of the 2 remaining close friends here in Colorado decided to do an intervention, and called in a welfare check.
I have been rebuilding since. That was about 2-3 weeks after the fire and the dark day, as I like to call it.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:06:10pm |
re: #189 Mostly sane, most of the time.
We're all spiritually brothers and sisters, according to our theology. What separates us is our choices.* (This is why we refer to each other as Brother and Sister instead of Mr. and Mrs.)
*yes, with mitigation for insanity and the like
Have you figured out whether a Romney loss or a Romney win would be more harmful to your church's mission?
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:06:39pm |
re: #182 Gus
The fictional difference KT is that Romney will nominate a conservative judge for the SCOTUS. Twice. Think about that and your uterus. No wait. You don't have one.
Just for the record, my knees have given me more trouble than my uterus. It's pretty much done what it was supposed to do.
I vote with my brain, though. Usually, it talk more sense than the other two.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:07:15pm |
re: #196 Decatur Deb
Have you figured out whether a Romney loss or a Romney win would be more harmful to your church's mission?
Nope. Not particularly worried about it.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:09:11pm |
re: #198 Mostly sane, most of the time.
Nope. Not particularly worried about it.
We had to do it with JFK. The only way out was his virtual disavowal of any secular bleed-through from his Catholicism.
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b_sharp Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:10:29pm |
What I find to be the most interesting thing about religious people is that I can't figure them out.
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Gus Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:10:53pm |
re: #194 Killgore Trout
[Link: imgur.com...]
Watched this tonight. [Link: current.com...] Eating egg rolls now.
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Obdicut Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:11:06pm |
re: #199 Decatur Deb
We had to do it with JFK. The only way out was his virtual disavowal of any secular bleed-through from his Catholicism.
Which Romney hasn't done.
I think in this case, though, Mormons are somewhat insulated by Romney's personality. I don't presume to know anything about his spiritual life, but he's such an abnormal-seeming person I don't see it reflecting on other Mormons.
On the other hand, I also think that most mainstream Christians are pretty ignorant about Mormon theology, and if they understood it better would be a lot more hostile towards Mormons.
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goddamnedfrank Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:11:59pm |
re: #195 ProGunLiberal
Because of people here deserting me, I found out exactly how low any believer can go in emotional health. One of the 2 remaining close friends here in Colorado decided to do an intervention, and called in a welfare check.
I have been rebuilding since. That was about 2-3 weeks after the fire and the dark day, as I like to call it.
Yeah, a welfare check can't disqualify you from firearms ownership unless it ends in an involuntary commitment to a mental institution. It does sound like you might not be the first person I suggest own a gun, but you haven't described anything that would legally prevent you from it.
Here's ATF form 4473, look at question 11 a through l. If you can honestly answer yes to A and no to B through L then you can purchase a firearm.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:12:27pm |
re: #202 Obdicut
Which Romney hasn't done.
I think in this case, though, Mormons are somewhat insulated by Romney's personality. I don't presume to know anything about his spiritual life, but he's such an abnormal-seeming person I don't see it reflecting on other Mormons.
On the other hand, I also think that most mainstream Christians are pretty ignorant about Mormon theology, and if they understood it better would be a lot more hostile towards Mormons.
You mean like if there were people who traveled around and gave talks on how weird the heretical Mormons are?
Like there are right now?
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ProGunLiberal Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:15:02pm |
re: #203 goddamnedfrank
My primary fear, which cascades into eventually, in better times getting a gun, would be essentially, what if another Disaster occurs that the Government is simply too small to handle?
Like New Madrid going off again, or the fault line between Manitou and Colorado Springs (Yes, there is one). What would happen to us in the Front Range? If you look at a map, population wise, we are very isolated.
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goddamnedfrank Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:15:19pm |
Bashing Mormons used to be a cottage industry among American bible belters. The only reason it's suppressed right now is because most of the people who engage in it are socially conservative Christians who hate Obama because he's black, has a scary foreign name and a muslim father.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:15:46pm |
re: #204 Mostly sane, most of the time.
You mean like if there were people who traveled around and gave talks on how weird the heretical Mormons are?
Like there are right now?
That's pretty much what I was thinking in 196. The White House would only magnify it, unless he could pull off a Camelot, which made Catholic 'cool' for a while.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:17:20pm |
re: #205 ProGunLiberal
My primary fear, which cascades into eventually, in better times getting a gun, would be essentially, what if another Disaster occurs that the Government is simply too big to handle?
Like New Madrid going off again, or the fault line between Manitou and Colorado Springs (Yes, there is one). What would happen to us in the Front Range? If you look at a map, population wise, we are very isolated.
In case of disaster a plastic tarp, a jug of Clorox, a can opener and a bunch of friends will serve you far better than a gun.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:17:55pm |
re: #205 ProGunLiberal
My primary fear, which cascades into eventually, in better times getting a gun, would be essentially, what if another Disaster occurs that the Government is simply too big to handle?
Like New Madrid going off again, or the fault line between Manitou and Colorado Springs (Yes, there is one). What would happen to us in the Range? If you look at a map, population wise, we are very isolated.
Short of the Yellowstone Caldera erupting again, which we would have much notice of (like months notice)*, there's not much that we can't respond to...eventually.
That eventually is the problem, so store up some ramen and batteries in your house.
*Mt. St. Helens gave us two months notice.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:18:01pm |
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ProGunLiberal Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:18:12pm |
re: #208 Decatur Deb
Fair point. New Madrid goes off, and we have a big problem.
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Varek Raith Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:18:23pm |
re: #208 Decatur Deb
In case of disaster a plastic tarp, a jug of Clorox, a can opener and a bunch of friends will serve you far better than a gun.
Bottle caps.
Also, need a mechanic for converting cars into Mad Max approved vehicles.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:18:54pm |
re: #200 Gangnam Style
What I find to be the most interesting thing about religious people is that I can't figure them out.
We're really not that mysterious. Compared to, say, electric train enthusiasts, or what have you.
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Varek Raith Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:19:21pm |
re: #213 SanFranciscoZionist
We're really not that mysterious. Compared to, say, electric train enthusiasts, or what have you.
I'm offended!
/
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:20:06pm |
re: #211 ProGunLiberal
Fair point. New Madrid goes off, and we have a big problem.
Did the Shawnee Prophet say anything about it happening again?
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goddamnedfrank Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:20:20pm |
re: #203 goddamnedfrank
Edited for link. Also the questions are 11 A through L.
re: #205 ProGunLiberal
My primary fear, which cascades into eventually, in better times getting a gun, would be essentially, what if another Disaster occurs that the Government is simply too big to handle?
Like New Madrid going off again, or the fault line between Manitou and Colorado Springs (Yes, there is one). What would happen to us in the Front Range? If you look at a map, population wise, we are very isolated.
There's lots of reasons to be a responsible firearm owner, but it's probably best not to focus on massive societal breakdown as the primary one. Also while I know what you meant, it's the disaster that would be too big to handle, not the government.
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ProGunLiberal Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:20:21pm |
re: #209 Mostly sane, most of the time.
Exactly. My issue exactly.
If Gore or Kerry had been President had been President in 2005? Katrina's response would not have been hastened by much. It was going to be Massive-Scale catastrophe now matter who was in office. We simply don't have the resources to deal with that. And we never had.
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ProGunLiberal Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:21:18pm |
re: #216 goddamnedfrank
I flipped what meant in wording. Halfway through the sentence, I forgot what was too big to handle.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:21:46pm |
re: #214 Varek Raith
I'm offended!
/
The former priest of my father's parish is heavy into electric model trains. When he was transferred, getting all the trains packed up was a nightmare. He had a box of clothes, a lot of books, and then TRAINS.
I suggested that he could donate them to the church, we could lay tracks all around the perimeter of the sanctuary, and then the collection could be brought up by coal car, instead of in those long-handled baskets.
But no, he took the lot.
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freetoken Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:21:54pm |
re: #206 goddamnedfrank
Such as the Billy Graham organization, which some evangelicals/fundamentalists are calling out for dropping Mormonism from their list of cults/non-Christian groups, in order to endorse Romney.
Yet I agree with Obdicut - Romney is not going to be the "typical" Mormon because he's not only part of the 1 percent but he's part of the 1 per mil. That is, the Romney's are richer than 1 out of a 1000 Americans, and people just can't relate to them. To many Americans the Romney's are "The Rich", not "The Mormons".
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goddamnedfrank Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:23:24pm |
re: #220 freetoken
Such as the Billy Graham organization, which some evangelicals/fundamentalists are calling out for dropping Mormonism from their list of cults/non-Christian groups, in order to endorse Romney.
If Romney loses they'll go back on the list.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:23:51pm |
re: #212 Varek Raith
Bottle caps.
Also, need a mechanic for converting cars into Mad Max approved vehicles.
My truck is a MadMax-approved vehicle.
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Varek Raith Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:24:43pm |
re: #222 Decatur Deb
My truck is a MadMax-approved vehicle.
Alright.
We now got a post apocalyptic plan.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:24:53pm |
Here's what we have in our 72 hour emergency packs:
those space age blanket-thingies
MRE's
toothbrushes, soap, and a little towel
unnerwear
those heat pack things
wet wipes
tarp & a rope
flashlights
a couple of scout knives (among 6 packs)
a water filter system
basic first aid kit
extra socks
feminine things
emergency contact info
probably a few other things I'm forgetting here
Notice the lack of anything that might kill a zombie. Obviously poor planning on Mr. EmmmieG's part.
(Actually, we are far more likely to lose power and have to shelter in place in an ice or wind storm, historically, but better safe than sorry.)
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allegro Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:26:52pm |
re: #220 freetoken
To many Americans the Romney's are "The Rich", not "The Mormons".
To me they're just assholes I'm sick of.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:28:07pm |
re: #224 Mostly sane, most of the time.
Here's what we have in our 72 hour emergency packs:
those space age blanket-thingies
MRE's
toothbrushes, soap, and a little towel
unnerwear
those heat pack things
wet wipes
tarp & a rope
flashlights
a couple of scout knives (among 6 packs)
a water filter system
basic first aid kit
extra socks
feminine things
emergency contact info
probably a few other things I'm forgetting hereNotice the lack of anything that might kill a zombie. Obviously poor planning on Mr. EmmmieG's part.
(Actually, we are far more likely to lose power and have to shelter in place in an ice or wind storm, historically, but better safe than sorry.)
My husband occasionally discusses becoming a Mormon, because he admires the emergency preparedness. He's an atheist, which I keep telling him may be a slight drawback.
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b_sharp Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:29:44pm |
re: #213 SanFranciscoZionist
We're really not that mysterious. Compared to, say, electric train enthusiasts, or what have you.
You're totally mysterious to me, far more than ETEs. Every time I build a silly preconception about a religious person, someone blows it apart.
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Varek Raith Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:30:00pm |
I got stuff to last about 10 days.
Bring on the snow and/or hurricanes and/or noreasters!
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:30:09pm |
re: #227 SanFranciscoZionist
My husband occasionally discusses becoming a Mormon, because he admires the emergency preparedness. He's an atheist, which I keep telling him may be a slight drawback.
Yeah, he can put together the backpack at any time.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:31:31pm |
re: #230 Mostly sane, most of the time.
Yeah, he can put together the backpack at any time.
He's working on that, gradually. We don't have a lot of spare cash, but when the checks come in he's adding to his little stash.
He has an excellent zombie plan.
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Big Joe Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:32:04pm |
re: #205 ProGunLiberal
My primary fear, which cascades into eventually, in better times getting a gun, would be essentially, what if another Disaster occurs that the Government is simply too small to handle?
Like New Madrid going off again, or the fault line between Manitou and Colorado Springs (Yes, there is one). What would happen to us in the Front Range? If you look at a map, population wise, we are very isolated.
Speaking as a Californian, earthquakes are rare. That being said I would not buy an un-reinfored masonry building in the river valley. Bedrock takes quakes better than the big bowl of jello between the Ozarks and Appalachia. You really only need to be able to provide for yourself for about 2 weeks before relief gets in. I have a gun but I don't need it for protection, I carry a knife and have never had a need other than to break down cardboard.
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goddamnedfrank Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:33:02pm |
FYI Bubblehead II put up a disaster prep thread. My list can be found there.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:33:59pm |
re: #229 Varek Raith
I got stuff to last about 10 days.
Bring on the snow and/or hurricanes and/or noreasters!
Wool socks and hot chocolate?
(Seriously, the three days we had no heat woke up me in a hurry.)
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b_sharp Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:34:33pm |
re: #225 Gus
John McLaughlin & the 4th Dimension - New Album: Now Here This - Oct 12
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Those fingers sure can play a lot of notes.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:35:16pm |
re: #231 SanFranciscoZionist
He's working on that, gradually. We don't have a lot of spare cash, but when the checks come in he's adding to his little stash.
He has an excellent zombie plan.
Costco. My kids worked it out. You can live for a long time on what they have in Costco.
Although, if the power goes out, the meat section is going to reek.
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Gus Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:36:13pm |
re: #235 Gangnam Style
Those fingers sure can play a lot of notes.
Still crazy after all these years. Good stuff.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:36:33pm |
re: #236 Mostly sane, most of the time.
Costco. My kids worked it out. You can live for a long time on what they have in Costco.
Although, if the power goes out, the meat section is going to reek.
Might cover up your scent, thereby confusing the zombies.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:37:22pm |
re: #238 SanFranciscoZionist
Might cover up your scent, thereby confusing the zombies.
That's a very good idea. Combine the meat counter and the rotting florals, and they'll never find you hiding out in the canned goods.
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CuriousLurker Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:37:52pm |
LOL
You can steal my tweets if you like, but know that I lick every one before I post them...— Candace Brown (@candacetx) October 22, 2012
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Varek Raith Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:38:56pm |
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Lidane Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:41:32pm |
My fangirl senses are on overload. Not only does The Walking Dead continue to rock my world, but there is also this:
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CuriousLurker Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:42:34pm |
Time for me to go too. Cats want to be fed & Monday morning will be here way sooner than I want. G'nite, lizards—rest up for tomorrow's debate!
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:45:06pm |
re: #217 ProGunLiberal
Exactly. My issue exactly.
If Gore or Kerry had been President had been President in 2005? Katrina's response would not have been hastened by much. It was going to be Massive-Scale catastrophe now matter who was in office. We simply don't have the resources to deal with that. And we never had.
The basic problem is that you not only have to purchase the resources, but you also have to store them until the time of need and train people in their use. All that costs a lot of money up front and it is difficult to justify investments in such 'inactive reserves' of equipment to Congress. Moreover, deciding when to dip into that stockpile can also be an issue.
Just some of my impressions,
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:47:31pm |
re: #239 Mostly sane, most of the time.
That's a very good idea. Combine the meat counter and the rotting florals, and they'll never find you hiding out in the canned goods.
Just don't forget the liquor bottles. A good size bottle of vodka plus a lit rag can set a zombie on fire. Burn 'em down and they don't come back.
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ProGunLiberal Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:48:22pm |
re: #245 Dark_Falcon
Realistically, the only way for the US to deal with that level of disaster is to use the normal military.
But that isn't gonna happen. The Posse Comitatus Act. That law needs serious reform.
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Kragar Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:48:47pm |
re: #245 Dark_Falcon
The basic problem is that you not only have to purchase the resources, but you also have to store them until the time of need and train people in their use. All that costs a lot of money up front and it is difficult to justify investments in such 'inactive reserves' of equipment to Congress. Moreover, deciding when to dip into that stockpile can also be an issue.
Just some of my impressions,
The same logic applies to military equipment and resources as well.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:51:04pm |
re: #247 ProGunLiberal
Realistically, the only way for the US to deal with that level of disaster is to use the normal military.
But that isn't gonna happen. The Posse Comitatus Act. That law needs serious reform.
The problem with such reform is that just proposing it would trigger a flood of paranoia. Your proposal might die simply on the strength of Internet ZOMG!.
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ProGunLiberal Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:51:49pm |
As for the "Darkest Day" I mentioned earlier?
That was June 26th. The day the winds kicked up to 65 mph gusts and roared down the mountain into parts of Colorado Springs. There was ash everywhere, and the sky was a very sickly yellow.
Then that night the reinforcements can in.
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ProGunLiberal Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:52:34pm |
re: #249 Dark_Falcon
Exactly. Though, I have seen a few sites saying Katrina shows that it is time to either reform or get rid of the PCA.
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goddamnedfrank Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:54:15pm |
re: #217 ProGunLiberal
Exactly. My issue exactly.
If Gore or Kerry had been President had been President in 2005? Katrina's response would not have been hastened by much. It was going to be Massive-Scale catastrophe now matter who was in office. We simply don't have the resources to deal with that. And we never had.
Not being mired down in Iraq a hypothetical Gore administration would have probably had a lot more in the way of domestic military and national guard resources available to throw at the problem.
re: #247 ProGunLiberal
Realistically, the only way for the US to deal with that level of disaster is to use the normal military.
But that isn't gonna happen. The Posse Comitatus Act. That law needs serious reform.
Posse Comitatus doesn't prevent disaster assistance. Remember General Honore after Katrina telling soldiers to put their weapons down? The soldiers were already there, he just showed up and told them what their actual role was supposed to be.
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Mocking Jay Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:56:53pm |
re: #243 Lidane
My fangirl senses are on overload. Not only does The Walking Dead continue to rock my world, but there is also this:
[Embedded content]
I saw that earlier. Very appropriate usage of the word "tease." :-/
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Kragar Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:57:00pm |
re: #249 Dark_Falcon
The problem with such reform is that just proposing it would trigger a flood of paranoia. Your proposal might die simply on the strength of Internet ZOMG!.
The obvious solution would be to have another branch of service dedicated to civil engineering and emergency response.
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Mocking Jay Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:57:47pm |
re: #254 Kragar
The obvious solution would be to have another branch of service dedicated to civil engineering and emergency response.
Big gubbmint!
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ProGunLiberal Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:58:01pm |
re: #250 ProGunLiberal
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:58:39pm |
re: #251 ProGunLiberal
Exactly. Though, I have seen a few sites saying Katrina shows that it is time to either reform or get rid of the PCA.
Yes, but from a politician's standpoint, pushing a bill to do that through Capitol Hill has to be worth the amount of screaming that will be directed at that Congressman/Senator: "Senator Parker wants to repeal the Posse Comitatus Act so that the Army can be used to herd all dissenters into FEMA Camps!!1" What's worse is that more people than you'd think would believe that line of malarkey, even if only partially.
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Lidane Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:58:46pm |
re: #253 Mocking Jay
I saw that earlier. Very appropriate usage of the word "tease." :-/
Yes, but the full trailer comes out on Tuesday, so at least the payoff will come quickly.
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allegro Sun, Oct 21, 2012 8:59:04pm |
re: #254 Kragar
The obvious solution would be to have another branch of service dedicated to civil engineering and emergency response.
Like the Corps of Engineers and FEMA?
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Oct 21, 2012 9:00:06pm |
re: #256 ProGunLiberal
Los Angeles, 1994, or was it 1993? Can't remember exactly, but I remember the apartment complex's swimming pool full of cinders and ash, and watching fires burn on the hillside.
Oddly enough, haven't had any fires in Portland. *stops to wring out socks* Can't imagine why not.
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Mocking Jay Sun, Oct 21, 2012 9:00:19pm |
re: #258 Lidane
Yes, but the full trailer comes out on Tuesday, so at least the payoff will come quickly.
I'm afraid I might end up rooting for Ben Kingsley.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Oct 21, 2012 9:00:52pm |
re: #247 ProGunLiberal
Realistically, the only way for the US to deal with that level of disaster is to use the normal military.
But that isn't gonna happen. The Posse Comitatus Act. That law needs serious reform.
We use the 'full' military, as in Joint Task Force Andrew in Miami. There was even a Navy submarine tender involved. The only impact of posse comitatus was that the only troops with loaded weapons were the Florida National Guard, because they were kept under the Governor's control. I think much of the reaction to 9/11 has weakened it even more.
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Kragar Sun, Oct 21, 2012 9:01:06pm |
re: #259 allegro
Like the Corps of Engineers and FEMA?
Make it an enlisted service, guaranteed manpower and mobile.
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ProGunLiberal Sun, Oct 21, 2012 9:02:54pm |
re: #257 Dark_Falcon
Yep. And we will be stuck here until a) Sanity arrives or b) something worse than Katrina comes along.
Should also note, the Waldo Canyon fire got impeded in its spread by an HOA. up in that area. Apparently, that Homeowners Situation were mini-dictators about what could be in your yard, and how far from the house those things could be. Probably saved a good chunk of the city. Because the fire suddenly was somewhere where the amount of fuel plunged.
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alpuz Sun, Oct 21, 2012 9:04:32pm |
OT.
I have a question.
Why has both the Catholic church and the Boy Scouts of America gotten away with fuckin' little kids with little to no serious backlash?
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Kragar Sun, Oct 21, 2012 9:06:35pm |
re: #265 alpuz
OT.
I have a question.Why has both the Catholic church and the Boy Scouts of America gotten away with fuckin' little kids with little to no serious backlash?
Money and screaming they're the ones being persecuted.
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ProGunLiberal Sun, Oct 21, 2012 9:09:09pm |
re: #260 Mostly sane, most of the time.
Unfortunately, that was Colorado Springs, June 2012.
I live about 4.6 miles from what was the Evacuation Zone.
I actually had a plan, that, if it had come to it gotten the hell out of the city via Hwy 24, hit I-70, and go to Denver, and arrange something with any friends I could contact. Stupid, but it was an impulse plan.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Oct 21, 2012 9:09:46pm |
re: #265 alpuz
OT.
I have a question.Why has both the Catholic church and the Boy Scouts of America gotten away with fuckin' little kids with little to no serious backlash?
Weregild
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
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dragonath Sun, Oct 21, 2012 9:12:36pm |
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engineer cat Sun, Oct 21, 2012 9:22:25pm |
Weregild
the first part of this compound word is the same "were", man, which still survives in modern english in the word "werewolf", man-wolf
the cool thing about this is that it is the same word as latin "vir", man, both from the hypothesized indo-european root *"uiHro", supposed to mean "freeman", which also survives in the irish gaelic word "fer"
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