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Tech Note: The LGF Pages Reboot

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The new LGF Pages re-design is now in launch mode, and the first thing you’ll notice is that it looks a lot like the rest of the site. And that’s a good thing.

The old LGF Pages index had its own design, which actually started as a coding experiment way back in the day. Now it’s completely integrated into the design of the rest of LGF.

It’s more than a design integration, though; I also lavished a lot of attention on the plumbing, the MySQL queries that manipulate the LGF Pages database tables. Many of these queries worked very well as long as the whole list of Pages wasn’t too large — but with the number of Pages approaching 300,000, those queries were becoming unacceptably slow. In the lingo, they weren’t scaleable. That’s why I had to take the LGF Pages index offline when we installed our new servers.

Now these queries are very scaleable; I’ve optimized and refactored the queries and the PHP code behind them to make this new version respond much more quickly — again, like the rest of LGF.

If you’re signed in to an LGF account, some of the stats displayed on LGF Pages indexes are now “live,” updated at 5-second intervals, including the last comment and the page views. The Twitter counter is updated too, but at 90-second intervals.

When you scroll all the way to the bottom of the list of Pages, there’s a big button labeled “Show More Pages.” If you’re so inclined you can just keep clicking this button and showing more Pages until you reach the end, or your browser explodes, whichever comes first.

(Disclaimer: LGF not responsible for exploding browsers.)

Individual authors of Pages have their own indexes, just as in the old version, but again they now appear in a style consistent with the rest of LGF. You can get to any author’s LGF Pages by clicking their username in one of their Pages. The URL for your Pages looks like this (giving you a personal LGF web address):

littlegreenfootballs.com/pages/charles

And… one of the main problems with the old LGF Pages index was the search function. Basically, it sucked, and I say that as the author. Mea culpa. The biggest reason it sucked was because MySQL doesn’t have FULLTEXT indexing for tables of the InnoDB type, but you don’t really care about that. All you care about, and I don’t blame you, is that it’s fast. And the old LGF Pages search feature was the opposite of fast.

The solution: I’ve been noticing for a while that Google is crawling the heck out of LGF, and LGF Pages often show up in Google search results almost immediately after being posted, so I used Google’s “Custom Search Engine” feature to set up a special tool that searches LGF Pages. To use the custom Google search, type your search terms into the field in the left sidebar labeled “Google LGF Pages…”

Google’s search is ridiculously fast. Damned near instantaneous, in fact. Check it out and see how it compares to the old LGF Pages search feature.

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404 comments

1 freetoken  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 6:00:26pm

Yeah!

2 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 6:01:50pm

Always on the forefront of blogging technology, Charles. I love it!

3 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 6:14:13pm
I also lavished a lot of attention on the plumbing

I love getting lavished.
Thank you Charles!

4 PhillyPretzel  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 6:15:06pm

The LGF pages look great. Thank you Charles

5 Randall Gross  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 6:16:04pm

Thanks for your ceaseless efforts Charles, they are appreciated.

6 darthstar  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 6:22:28pm

Ooh...Sandy is a bad, bad girl...

Image: 189177_131284730354183_1694449127_n.jpg

7 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 6:25:30pm

re: #6 darthstar

Ooh...Sandy is a bad, bad girl...

Image: 189177_131284730354183_1694449127_n.jpg

This, right here, made my evening. Which should tell you what kind of evening I'm having, heh.

8 darthstar  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 6:27:12pm
9 darthstar  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 6:28:37pm
10 freetoken  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 6:31:05pm

EMAILS SHED LIGHT ON RYAN, WALKER RELATIONSHIP

[...]

The emails also show how Ryan and Walker sought to steer clear of sensitive political traps, and how Ryan was sensitive as early as September 2011 about offering any praise to government projects funded with money under Obama's economic stimulus law. In August, the AP and other news organizations noted that Ryan - a vocal opponent of the stimulus law - sought to steer money under the program to companies in his home state, which Ryan first awkwardly denied then acknowledged to be true.

In the emails, Walker's director of federal relations, Wendy Riemann, sent a message to Ryan's aide, Kevin Seifert, to describe a new grant from the U.S. Veterans Affairs Department awarded for a local water project. Riemann asked whether Ryan wanted to be quoted in a press release praising the money being spent in Wisconsin.

"Not to create more work for you, but do you have any idea where the money for this grant came from? Was it stimulus/the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act?" Seifert replied. "Our concern is that, if it's stimulus funds, we won't want to highlight (and would think you guys wouldn't, either) .... We generally don't do press on things we actively oppose."

Riemann responded that she would check the source of the money, which turned out not to be stimulus funding. "Feel free to proceed without us on this one," Seifert wrote.

[...]

Note how Ryan was quite fine with taking federal money, as long as it couldn't be credited to Obama's efforts.

Hypocrites.

11 freetoken  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 6:39:09pm

The past is up for grabs:

Looters strip Bulgaria of ancient treasures; Powerless to prevent the rape of its sites

[...]

Police reports indicate that every day up to 50,000 people are engaged in treasure hunting raids across Bulgaria, a country of 7.3 million. According to Angel Papalezov, a senior police officer, hundreds of thousands of artifacts are smuggled out of the country every year, with dealers hauling in up to $40 million.

[...]

12 Kragar  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 6:41:52pm

Mr B the Gentleman Rhymer - Straight Outta Surrey

13 Interesting Times  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 6:47:34pm
The solution: I’ve been noticing for a while that Google is crawling the heck out of LGF, and LGF Pages often show up in Google search results almost immediately after being posted, so I used Google’s “Custom Search Engine” feature to set up a special tool that searches LGF Pages.

That's great! Any possibility you could replace the regular LGF search tool with this? Because the bug I pointed out earlier - trying to find comments a member made on Pages via a keyword search - still exists :(

14 MittDoesNotCompute  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 6:52:31pm

re: #12 Kragar

Mr B the Gentleman Rhymer - Straight Outta Surrey

[Embedded content]

That's funny!

15 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 6:52:38pm

Every which fucking way, lies lies lies.

What a low life group.

16 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 6:54:44pm

re: #13 Interesting Times

That's great! Any possibility you could replace the regular LGF search tool with this? Because the bug I pointed out earlier - trying to find comments a member made on Pages via a keyword search - still exists :(

Actually, you can already do that ... right under the search box labeled "Search LGF..." there's one labeled "Google LGF..."

17 prairiefire  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 6:56:14pm

re: #15 Page 3 in the Binder of Women

Every which fucking way, lies lies lies.

What a low life group.

[Embedded content]

But, what will we do if they govern?

18 Interesting Times  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 7:01:31pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

Actually, you can already do that ... right under the search box labeled "Search LGF..." there's one labeled "Google LGF..."

Yes, you're referring to the Search tool in the LGF sidebar - I was thinking of the one that comes up when you click "Recent Comments" for a specific user. That one doesn't offer any Google functionality, as far as I can tell...

19 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 7:03:59pm

re: #17 prairiefire

But, what will we do if they govern?

It is going to be interesting, either way.

I don't see any bipartisanship ever anymore.

20 calochortus  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 7:08:38pm

re: #15 Page 3 in the Binder of Women

Every which fucking way, lies lies lies.

What a low life group.

[Embedded content]

I don't think it was a lie, just complete incompetence. It is way too obvious to fool anyone.

21 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 7:15:49pm

re: #20 calochortus

I don't think it was a lie, just complete incompetence. It is way too obvious to fool anyone.

They are creating a mirage, on purpose. That's a lie. Really, just post the photo. The original photo. He has a team that says, we need to make this better. They know most people are dupes. gah.

22 DisturbedEma  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 7:17:01pm

re: #7 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too

Awwww that bad? Or that boring?:)

23 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 7:17:54pm

re: #8 darthstar

If Mitt can't tell Meatloaf to sit down and shut up while he butchers America The Beautiful,how will he handle Ahmadinejad?

Mitt is actually in favor of God-Bless-America butchery. Have you heard him sing it?

24 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 7:18:14pm

re: #20 calochortus

I don't think it was a lie, just complete incompetence. It is way too obvious to fool anyone.

The intent was to deceive. Therefore, a lie.

25 SteveMcG  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 7:22:12pm

300,000?!?

26 calochortus  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 7:24:02pm

re: #21 Page 3 in the Binder of Women

re: #24 goddamnedfrank

I don't know one way or the other-it just immediately looked weird to me. Those 2 poles so close together on the right side were so obviously wrong. But I won't argue about it. I just tend to go with incompetence as an explanation for that sort of thing.

27 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 7:24:45pm

re: #23 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

Mitt is actually in favor of God-Bless-America butchery. Have you heard him sing it?

Not everyone has a good singing voice. Let him alone on that.

28 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 7:25:04pm

re: #26 calochortus

re: #24 goddamnedfrank

I don't know one way or the other-it just immediately looked weird to me. Those 2 poles so close together on the right side were so obviously wrong. But I won't argue about it. I just tend to go with incompetence as an explanation for that sort of thing.

You don't accidentally photoshop an image. Yes, there was incompetence in carrying out the task, but it's clear the motivation was to deceive.

29 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 7:25:39pm

re: #27 Dark_Falcon

Not everyone has a good singing voice. Let him alone on that.

It's not a major issue. But, if I sang the way he does, I'd probably take steps not to be caught singing solo in public.

30 SteveMcG  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 7:25:46pm

I thought I might go to the end of the LGF pages to see when it started, but I think I'd have to click "More" about 20,000 times!

31 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 7:26:17pm

re: #27 Dark_Falcon

Not everyone has a good singing voice. Let him alone on that.

They've taken down the Meatloaf butchery. I heard it was really bad.

32 calochortus  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 7:27:08pm

re: #28 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

Apparently you can do a bad "stitching" job with a panoramic photo, though.

33 SteveMcG  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 7:27:39pm

Still blows my mind that anyone actually supports Romney. If you ask them their opinions on actual issues, President Obama is the guy they should support. It's like when the ACA was polling so bad but internally, everybody liked its provisions.

34 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 7:31:30pm

re: #33 SteveMcG

Still blows my mind that anyone actually supports Romney. If you ask them their opinions on actual issues, President Obama is the guy they should support. It's like when the ACA was polling so bad but internally, everybody liked its provisions.

Simple: Obama took away our constitution/go team.

35 freetoken  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 7:31:35pm

re: #33 SteveMcG

Walked by a street fair today and heard one very old guy (a vendor) speak to another vendor say "I don't plan to vote for Obama, I didn't vote for him last year either."

Just a slip of the tongue, probably, but I am convinced that the generation differences are now profoundly influencing the political parties and that if Obama wins again it will be because he owns the under-30 vote.

36 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 7:33:30pm

re: #32 calochortus

Apparently you can do a bad "stitching" job with a panoramic photo, though.

Which is plausible, but it depends on the scale of the photographs.

37 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 7:33:41pm

re: #27 Dark_Falcon

Not everyone has a good singing voice. Let him alone on that.

Good thing then that he's also a pathological liar that you've admitted stands for nothing but his own insatiable thirst for power.

38 SteveMcG  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 7:34:21pm

My mother in law is still steamed that Obama won't recognize his white grandmother. I asked her if George Bush ever recognized HIS white grandmother, but I wasn't ready for her reply: "You can't blame all this on Bush"

39 dragonath  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 7:34:26pm

I missed the right wing freakout over the web ad today but I'm surprised to see it took them this long to glom onto this.

This. Is. Totally. Intentional. It's a goddamn freeway billboard. Obama's campaign just knows that the Right is going to whip itself into a whirlwind of misplaced hate. Watch the usual suspects attack birth control. They're going to relive this moronic debate again right before the election.

40 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 7:36:38pm

re: #32 calochortus

Apparently you can do a bad "stitching" job with a panoramic photo, though.

Well, maybe. That hadn't occurred to me. But if stitching were the goal, then this isn't just common-or-garden variety incompetence. It's breathtaking incompetence of a magnitude that's difficult to credit. I can more easily believe that the intent was to deceive.

That might not be the case if this were any campaign other than Romney's. But they pretty much forfeited any benefit of the doubt when they produced that ad implying that an Obama quote of McCain was actually Obama speaking in his own voice, were caught doing it, and replied "so what?"

41 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 7:37:50pm

re: #38 SteveMcG

My mother in law is still steamed that Obama won't recognize his white grandmother. I asked her if George Bush ever recognized HIS white grandmother, but I wasn't ready for her reply: "You can't blame all this on Bush"

Recognize, what the fuck? She's dead, what's he supposed to do, dig up her grave and say "Yep, that's her."

He talks about her frequently, she's part of his stump speech on gender pay equality. He mentioned her in the second debate.

42 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 7:38:16pm

re: #39 dragonath

I miseed the right wing freakout over the web ad today but I'm surprised to see it took them this long to glom onto this.

This. Is. Totally. Intentional. It's a goddamn freeway billboard. Obama's campaign just knows that the Right is going to whip itself into a whirlwind of misplaced hate. Watch the usual suspects attack birth control. They're going to relive this moronic debate again right before the election.

Good time then for the Meatloaf endorsement, since it lets Mitt pal around with someone with some legit fame and avoid talking about that silly ad. Republicans should just ignore it. She's trolling, and the best reaction to a troller is to ignore them.

43 calochortus  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 7:39:13pm

re: #36 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too

re: #40 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

Like I said, I don't know. It just seems this is getting more coverage among liberals than it deserves. I can't imagine that it would really make a difference to undecided voters or anything...
I would think the Romney campaign is capable of breathtaking incompetence.

44 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 7:41:57pm

re: #43 calochortus

re: #40 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

Like I said, I don't know. It just seems this is getting more coverage among liberals than it deserves. I can't imagine that it would really make a difference to undecided voters or anything...

Oh, no, I tend to agree that it's not a big deal. Fauxtoshopping a political rally doesn't really bother me quite as much as, say, Fauxtoshopping war photographs to make them seem more horrible than they are. And stitching errors are a plausible enough explanation to fit Hanlon's Razor, albeit there is an argument to be made that Romney's whole dishonest campaign may exclude him from receiving the benefit of the doubt.

45 blueraven  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 7:42:43pm

re: #42 Dark_Falcon

Good time then for the Meatloaf endorsement, since it lets Mitt pal around with someone with some legit fame and avoid talking about that silly ad. Republicans should just ignore it. She's trolling, and the best reaction to a troller is to ignore them.

Um...Meatloaf, just like Romney's policies were briefly popular in the 80s.
They both flamed out.

46 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 7:45:05pm

re: #43 calochortus

re: #40 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

Like I said, I don't know. It just seems this is getting more coverage among liberals than it deserves. I can't imagine that it would really make a difference to undecided voters or anything...

I can't imagine being undecided at this point, so I can't really tell. But I do know that Romney's off-the-scale dishonesty is one of the things I dislike most about him. I could see how an undecided voter might start to catch on to this tendency and be turned off by it. By itself this picture might be a very minor issue. But gutta cavat lapidem (a drop wears away the stone).

47 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 7:45:16pm

re: #42 Dark_Falcon

Good time then for the Meatloaf endorsement, since it lets Mitt pal around with someone with some legit fame and avoid talking about that silly ad. Republicans should just ignore it. She's trolling, and the best reaction to a troller is to ignore them.

"someone with some legit fame"

Whoo wheeeeeeeee!

48 calochortus  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 7:45:21pm

re: #44 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too

On the other hand, it might be encouraging if the Romney campaign is, in fact, this careless and/or incompetent.

49 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 7:46:54pm

re: #42 Dark_Falcon

Good time then for the Meatloaf endorsement, since it lets Mitt pal around with someone with some legit fame and avoid talking about that silly ad. Republicans should just ignore it. She's trolling, and the best reaction to a troller is to ignore them.

Did you actually listen to read Meatloaf's endorsement? The guy came off like a complete raving lunatic.

‘This is the most important election in the history of the United States, because there has storm clouds come over the United States. There is thunderstorms over Europe,’ Meat Loaf said, misspeaking at several points. ‘There are hailstorms, and I mean major hailstorms, in the Middle East. There are storms brewing through China, through Asia, through everywhere, and there’s only one man that’ — he broke off abruptly. ‘The other night when President Barack Obama, God bless him, said to Mitt Romney, ‘The Cold War is over.’ I have never heard such a thing in my life.’

Lord what a dumbshit.

50 blueraven  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 7:47:01pm

re: #42 Dark_Falcon

Good time then for the Meatloaf endorsement, since it lets Mitt pal around with someone with some legit fame and avoid talking about that silly ad. Republicans should just ignore it. She's trolling, and the best reaction to a troller is to ignore them.

Also Romney is a liar once again, trying to scare Ohioans telling them Chrysler is moving Jeep to China. What a despicable human being.

51 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 7:48:16pm

re: #48 calochortus

On the other hand, it might be encouraging if the Romney campaign is, in fact, this careless and/or incompetent.

Well, we already know that they are. Not the sharpest tools in the shed, this lot.

52 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 7:48:20pm

re: #46 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

I can't imagine being undecided at this point, so I can't really tell. But I do know that Romney's off-the-scale dishonesty is one of the things I dislike most about him. I could see how an undecided voter might start to catch on to this tendency and be turned off by it. By itself this picture might be a very minor issue. But gutta cavat lapidem (a drop wears away the stone).

Exactly. What is amazing is he can be found in a lie, big or small, every damn day. Oh and the press is catching up finally. They mention something being disproved, "but he keeps repeating it"

I see it as looking down on us, really, he's counting on people being ignorant, not paying attention, or just down right Obama hate.

Not an honorable campaign. Not an honorable candidate. No matter how much money he's tithed to his church.

53 dragonath  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 7:48:54pm

re: #42 Dark_Falcon

Good time then for the Meatloaf endorsement, since it lets Mitt pal around with someone with some legit fame and avoid talking about that silly ad.

"I don't always listen to celebrity endorsements, but when I do, I choose Meat Loaf."

54 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 7:49:25pm

re: #38 SteveMcG

My mother in law is still steamed that Obama won't recognize his white grandmother. I asked her if George Bush ever recognized HIS white grandmother, but I wasn't ready for her reply: "You can't blame all this on Bush"

How do you 'recognize' a grandmother?

55 efuseakay  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 7:50:17pm

re: #11 freetoken

The past is up for grabs:

Looters strip Bulgaria of ancient treasures; Powerless to prevent the rape of its sites

That's not legitimate rape!

56 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 7:50:35pm

re: #47 Page 3 in the Binder of Women

"someone with some legit fame"

Whoo wheeeeeeeee!

Compared with Lena Dunham he's Elvis. She's a johnnie-come-lately trying to get attention with some ad that tries to shock traditionalists. Meatloaf actually has a song about lefties their loyalty to Obama:

57 SteveMcG  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 7:51:27pm

I think you recognize your white grandmother by going on Oprah and spending an hour talking about her// I don't know and neither does she.

The point is he's black.

58 calochortus  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 7:51:50pm

re: #54 SanFranciscoZionist

How do you 'recognize' a grandmother?

Usually a corsage does the trick.

59 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 7:51:50pm

re: #56 Dark_Falcon

Compared with Lena Dunham he's Elvis. She's a johnnie-come-lately trying to get attention with some ad that tries to shock traditionalists. Meatloaf actually has a song about lefties their loyalty to Obama:

[Embedded content]

And oh so shocked you were.

60 dragonath  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 7:52:16pm

Satire died again

61 Varek Raith  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 7:52:55pm

Dear Traditionalists,
The 1950s are gone and never coming back.
Just like disco.
;)

62 freetoken  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 7:54:50pm

re: #61 Varek Raith

Dear Traditionalists,
The 1950s are gone and never coming back.

That's not how it works, according to Buchanan's latest column:

McGovern & Goldwater: Losers or Winners?

63 dragonath  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 7:55:13pm

re: #61 Varek Raith

New Traditionalists?

Image: devo__49518_zoom.jpg

64 blueraven  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 7:55:29pm

re: #56 Dark_Falcon

Compared with Lena Dunham he's Elvis. She's a johnnie-come-lately trying to get attention with some ad that tries to shock traditionalists. Meatloaf actually has a song about lefties their loyalty to Obama:

[Embedded content]

That's a song about lying which Romney knows a lot about.
Odd that you would bring up lies after all of Mitt's whoppers.

65 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 7:55:46pm

re: #56 Dark_Falcon

Compared with Lena Dunham he's Elvis. She's a johnnie-come-lately trying to get attention with some ad that tries to shock traditionalists. Meatloaf actually has a song about lefties their loyalty to Obama:

[Embedded content]

You know, I'm having trouble imagining that the point of that ad was to "shock traditionalists". I think that the point was to appeal to young (potential) voters in an amusing and engaging way. And I also think she probably succeeded in that goal. I can tell you for a fact that she succeeded in amusing this voter in his mid-50's.

66 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 7:56:06pm

Being totally confused at this point. Is there a "index" page or "headlines" page? Is the only option of seeing the Pages is scrolling with the "show more pages" button at the bottom?

I notice when I access a Page that way, then hit the back button to it doesn't seem to take me back to the place I was when I accessed the Page. So I have to scroll over and over to get where I was.

Help.

67 efuseakay  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 7:56:27pm

re: #42 Dark_Falcon

Good time then for the Meatloaf endorsement, since it lets Mitt pal around with someone with some legit fame and avoid talking about that silly ad. Republicans should just ignore it. She's trolling, and the best reaction to a troller is to ignore them.

Hey Lizards... Did you hear something?

68 SteveMcG  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 7:57:39pm

Is it me or is Dark Falcon starting to go wingnut? I really don't remember tone like this in the past.

69 HappyWarrior  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 7:58:06pm

re: #56 Dark_Falcon

Compared with Lena Dunham he's Elvis. She's a johnnie-come-lately trying to get attention with some ad that tries to shock traditionalists. Meatloaf actually has a song about lefties their loyalty to Obama:

[Embedded content]

Well judging by Eric Erickson and Ben Shapiro's response she achieved her goal. Johnnie-come-lately, I don't know what you mean. She's a twenty six year old woman starring on a show that has gotten a lot of acclaim. And you really shouldn't be lecturing lefties about loyalty when it's your party that famously doesn't fall in love but falls in line and Mitt Romney is a great example of that.

70 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 7:58:26pm

If a person thinks of themselves as utterly incapable of empathizing with women, like D_F does, then of course a talented, successful, empowered young woman talking about her liberal political views would strike that person as trolling.

71 HappyWarrior  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 7:58:57pm

I don't watch Girls by Lena Dunham is a lot more relevant than Meat Loaf is. And unlike Meat Loaf, she actually coherently explained why she supports who she supports rather than rambling like a crazy person.

72 dragonath  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 7:59:37pm

re: #68 SteveMcG

How else are you gonna justify that GOP majority with Flake, Akin, Mourdock and Smith.

And Cruz.

73 SteveMcG  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 8:00:07pm

Funny thing about Mr. Loaf's endorsement is that he like Mitt's foreign policy!

74 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 8:00:11pm

re: #50 blueraven

Also Romney is a liar once again, trying to scare Ohioans telling them Chrysler is moving Jeep to China. What a despicable human being.

The stuff about Jeep seem to come from the Washington Examiner taking a Bloomberg piece quoting Fiat's Asian COO incorrectly:

Fiat Says Jeep Output May Return to China as Demand Rises

Fiat SpA (F), majority owner of Chrysler Group LLC, plans to return Jeep output to China and may eventually make all of its models in that country, according to the head of both automakers’ operations in the region.

Fiat is in “very detailed conversations” with its Chinese partner, Guangzhou Automobile Group Co. (2238), about making Jeeps in the world’s largest auto market, said Mike Manley, chief operating officer of Fiat and Chrysler in Asia. Chrysler hasn’t built Jeeps there since before Fiat took control in 2009.

“The volume opportunity for us is very significant,” Manley, who is also president of the Jeep brand, said in an interview at Chrysler’s Auburn Hills, Michigan, headquarters. “We’re reviewing the opportunities within existing capacity” as well as “should we be localizing the entire Jeep portfolio or some of the Jeep portfolio.”

Chrysler, which entered an alliance with Turin, Italy-based Fiat as part of its U.S. government-backed bankruptcy, is relying on growth in China to counter weakness in Europe’s auto market. The automaker is targeting 500,000 annual sales outside North America by 2014, more than triple its overseas deliveries in 2009.

Chrysler currently builds all Jeep SUV models at plants in Michigan, Illinois and Ohio. Manley referred to adding Jeep production sites rather than shifting output from North America to China.

That first bolded bit looks pretty damning and its not until 4 paragraphs later that its meaning is clarified. I can't speculate though, on how the Examiner made that mistake.

75 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 8:00:13pm

re: #71 HappyWarrior

I don't watch Girls by Lena Dunham is a lot more relevant than Meat Loaf is.

Also she sounds intelligent and funny. He sounds crazed and misinformed.

76 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 8:00:37pm

re: #58 calochortus

Usually a corsage does the trick.

Put a wine charm on her.

77 HappyWarrior  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 8:01:45pm

re: #75 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

Also she sounds intelligent and funny. He sounds crazed and misinformed.

Yep. Nice tat too.

78 SteveMcG  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 8:02:01pm

Poor Mitt. First Clint Eastwood goes after an empty chair and now he gets Meat Loafed.

79 dragonath  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 8:02:12pm

Confucius say: not everyone has a stick up his ass

80 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 8:02:40pm

re: #77 HappyWarrior

Yep. Nice tat too.

See, I'm enough of a traditionalist to find tats ugly. But I can't hold it against her.

81 HappyWarrior  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 8:03:12pm

re: #80 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

See, I'm enough of a traditionalists to find tats ugly. But I can't hold it against her.

Ha fair enough. Got two myself.

82 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 8:03:32pm

re: #74 Dark_Falcon

The stuff about Jeep seem to come from the Washington Examiner taking a Bloomberg piece quoting Fiat's Asian COO incorrectly:

Fiat Says Jeep Output May Return to China as Demand Rises

That first bolded bit looks pretty damning and its not until 4 paragraphs later that its meaning is clarified. I can't speculate though, on how the Examiner made that mistake.

Well, Mitt was just googling his talking points again.

What a shit telling people their jobs are gone, when they aren't. What a shit!

83 HappyWarrior  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 8:04:14pm

‘This is the most important election in the history of the United States, because there has storm clouds come over the United States. There is thunderstorms over Europe,’ Meat Loaf said, misspeaking at several points. ‘There are hailstorms, and I mean major hailstorms, in the Middle East. There are storms brewing through China, through Asia, through everywhere, and there’s only one man that’ — he broke off abruptly. ‘The other night when President Barack Obama, God bless him, said to Mitt Romney, ‘The Cold War is over.’ I have never heard such a thing in my life."
Excerpt from Meat Loaf's endorsement of Romney. I'm trying to understand what he means by that especially the last statement. He's never heard the Cold War is over?

84 calochortus  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 8:04:44pm

re: #74 Dark_Falcon

I'd feel better if he, or someone in his campaign had read the whole thing before giving his opinion.

85 blueraven  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 8:06:09pm

re: #74 Dark_Falcon

The stuff about Jeep seem to come from the Washington Examiner taking a Bloomberg piece quoting Fiat's Asian COO incorrectly:

Fiat Says Jeep Output May Return to China as Demand Rises

That first bolded bit looks pretty damning and its not until 4 paragraphs later that its meaning is clarified. I can't speculate though, on how the Examiner made that mistake.

Please DF
All these supposedly smart campaign people, Romney's exalted business acumen and this was a mistake?
Even you cant believe that.

86 SteveMcG  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 8:07:36pm

The ROmney campaign is probably happy it's a mistake. That way they don't have to take the responsibility for it.

87 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 8:08:44pm

re: #85 blueraven

Please DF
All these supposedly smart campaign people, Romney's exalted business acumen and this was a mistake?
Even you cant believe that.

Yeah, such a great businessman with a shitshow campaign.

88 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 8:09:21pm

re: #85 blueraven

Please DF
All these supposedly smart campaign people, Romney's exalted business acumen and this was a mistake?
Even you cant believe that.

It is difficult to get a man not to believe something, when his commitment to the team requires that he believe it! (Upton Sinclair, judiciously edited)

89 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 8:09:32pm

re: #86 SteveMcG

The ROmney campaign is probably happy it's a mistake. That way they don't have to take the responsibility for it.

EXACTLY.

He knows it's untrue, but for some reason keeps repeating it.

Basic morality GOP?

90 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 8:10:13pm

re: #89 Page 3 in the Binder of Women

EXACTLY.

He knows it's untrue, but for some reason keeps repeating it.

Basic morality GOP?

Heh, funny Dark had the backup to the Examiner ready to go.

Must have been in a push back email or something.

91 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 8:10:34pm

re: #89 Page 3 in the Binder of Women

EXACTLY.

He knows it's untrue, but for some reason keeps repeating it.

Basic morality GOP?

And they call themselves "values voters".

92 calochortus  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 8:11:39pm

re: #91 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

And they call themselves "values voters".

They just don't say what values, precisely.

93 HappyWarrior  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 8:11:44pm

re: #91 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

And they call themselves "values voters".

Well if they were real "values voters", they wouldn't be anti-gay bigots or pander to them.

94 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 8:12:48pm

This thread needs some political rap:

95 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 8:15:27pm

re: #90 Page 3 in the Binder of Women

Heh, funny Dark had the backup to the Examiner ready to go.

Must have been in a push back email or something.

Truthfully, I came across the Examiner article while checking what the Stalkers were up to. When the topic came up here, I used Firefox's "Recently Closed Tabs" feature to quickly reach the article and from there tracked the quote back to its source.

No email was used and nothing dishonest was done. I simply had the good fortune to have recently run across the story you brought up, then made sure to read the original article before posting.

96 blueraven  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 8:17:09pm

re: #89 Page 3 in the Binder of Women

EXACTLY.

He knows it's untrue, but for some reason keeps repeating it.

Basic morality GOP?

A logo for Gus

MoRally BankRupt

97 freetoken  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 8:19:01pm

On a different topic, what is the nature and role of jewelry in current American society?

In the great Recession there was a definite Cheap is Chic vibe going on and many people dressed down even if they could afford more expensive goods.

Gold (and platinum) have been so expensive now for a couple of years that the common man can't afford even simple rings out of those materials anymore.

Any feeling on whether certain types of self-adornment will come back in style?

98 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 8:20:55pm

re: #96 blueraven

A logo for Gus

MoRally BankRupt

Gus just made the news today
Man Gets Romney ‘R’ Tattooed On His Face For $15,000

Image: ht_eric_hartsburg_2_jef_121026_wblog.jpg

99 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 8:21:04pm

re: #95 Dark_Falcon

Truthfully, I came across the Examiner article while checking what the Stalkers were up to. When the topic came up here, I used Firefox's "Recently Closed Tabs" feature to quickly reach the article and from there tracked the quote back to its source.

No email was used and nothing dishonest was done. I simply had the good fortune to have recently run across the story you brought up, then made sure to read the original article before posting.

And Romney lied. You were able to prove it.

100 calochortus  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 8:21:36pm

I'm out for the evening. Friends arriving shortly...

101 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 8:21:47pm

re: #95 Dark_Falcon

Don't take it personally. it's just the way it is.

102 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 8:21:59pm

re: #98 Killgore Trout

Gus just made the news today
Man Gets Romney ‘R’ Tattooed On His Face For $15,000

Image: ht_eric_hartsburg_2_jef_121026_wblog.jpg

I think his neck tat says fuck you.

103 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 8:24:09pm

re: #102 Page 3 in the Binder of Women

I think his neck tat says fuck you.

I thought that was Japanese for "Miso pork goes here"

104 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 8:25:35pm

re: #101 Killgore Trout

Don't take it personally. it's just the way it is.

I don't take it personally, since Stanley updinged my post and wasn't leveling any accusations of dishonesty at me personally. What she says about Mitt Romney is not what she says about me; what I say about Barack Obama is not what I say about Stanley Sea. We're both adults, able to separate criticism of someone we support from criticism of us personally.

105 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 8:30:40pm
106 Interesting Times  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 8:34:35pm

Heh:

107 Big Joe  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 8:37:52pm

re: #105 Page 3 in the Binder of Women

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He looks more like the mom than Honey Boo Boo.

108 blueraven  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 8:38:56pm

re: #98 Killgore Trout

Gus just made the news today
Man Gets Romney ‘R’ Tattooed On His Face For $15,000

Image: ht_eric_hartsburg_2_jef_121026_wblog.jpg

So, what do you think about that Romney lie re: Chrysler?
Have you fact checked it yet?
He should really shut the hell up about cars.

109 ninja cat  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 8:42:01pm

re-posting from previous thread

So I want to take time out of my schedule to thank you for supporting my right to control a woman’s life, not just when I’m raping her, but for all the rest of her life as well. A Fan Letter to Certain Conservative Politicians

110 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 8:44:04pm

re: #109 ninja cat

I tweeted it earlier. Thanks.

Have you been welcomed, hatchling? (wrenchwench is in charge, I'm back up)

111 efuseakay  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 8:45:01pm

re: #99 Page 3 in the Binder of Women

And Romney lied. You were able to prove it.

But he's still going to vote for him.

112 ninja cat  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 8:45:47pm

re: #98 Killgore Trout

I can only hope if he ever has kids, he'll have to direct them to wikpedia to look up who this Romney person is.

113 ninja cat  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 8:50:04pm

re: #110 Page 3 in the Binder of Women

Yes I have, but back-up is appreciated! Thanks.

114 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 8:53:14pm

re: #97 freetoken

On a different topic, what is the nature and role of jewelry in current American society?

In the great Recession there was a definite Cheap is Chic vibe going on and many people dressed down even if they could afford more expensive goods.

Gold (and platinum) have been so expensive now for a couple of years that the common man can't afford even simple rings out of those materials anymore.

Any feeling on whether certain types of self-adornment will come back in style?

Oh you bet. Brass, silver, copper are all happening huge. Creative vibrant and affordable. Color is IN.

Gold will be back, even platinum can be found under $600.

What is your common mans/womans price point?

115 BongCrodny  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 8:59:43pm

re: #49 goddamnedfrank

Did you actually listen to read Meatloaf's endorsement? The guy came off like a complete raving lunatic.

Did you actually listen to read Meatloaf's endorsement? The guy came off like a complete raving lunatic.

Lord what a dumbshit.

The funny thing is, is that rant sounds like something Steinman would write.

There is thunderstorms over Europe
There are hailstorms in the Middle East
There are storms brewing through China, Asia, everywhere
And there's only one man that can tame the beast

The Cold War between us is over
There's some stormy weather deep in my heart
But baby if you walk with me and vote for Mitt
You know those storms will never tear us apart

Etc., etc., etc., for 8 minutes and 20 seconds.

116 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 9:08:43pm

Here's a question for any of our Romney supporters. Do you have any money riding on the election? The consensus of the betting websites currently runs about 2 to 1 against Romney winning, so if any of you are really sure your guy is going to win this represents an opportunity for you to triple your money in a very short timeframe. Anybody who's honestly really sure that Romney is going to win should bet as much as they possibly can right now.

I mean, what is it you know that professional oddsmakers with millions of dollars on the line don't?

117 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 9:12:01pm

re: #116 goddamnedfrank

I don't gamble.

118 austin_blue  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 9:12:12pm

Update from 538.com.

[Link: fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com...]

Better.

119 BongCrodny  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 9:25:41pm

re: #117 Dark_Falcon

I don't gamble.

And you call yourself a football fan.

120 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 9:30:29pm

re: #119 BongCrodny

And you call yourself a football fan.

It is what it is. I've never found gambling enjoyable, so I don't do it. I'll spend extra money on my work though, hoping to use the supplies or leads sources I've purchased to increase my sales. That's the kind of risk I prefer, risk where I can directly effect the outcome, whereas betting on an election or football game would deny me that control.

121 ozbloke  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 9:32:26pm

re: #120 Dark_Falcon

It is what it is. I've never found gambling enjoyable, so I don't do it. I'll spend extra money on my work though, hoping to use the supplies or leads sources I've purchased to increase my sales. That's the kind of risk I prefer, risk where I can directly effect the outcome, whereas betting on an election or football game would deny me that control.

/ We call them bribes in Australia.

122 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 9:33:13pm

re: #117 Dark_Falcon

I don't gamble.

Good for you, but do you think the oddsmakers are missing something vital in rating Romney's odds of winning at 2 to 1 against? If so, what?

Also, is it really gambling if you know you're going to win? Point being that a lot of people are going around acting like they know something that they clearly do not know. And if they truly are certain about the outcome then why aren't they exercising their capitalistic freedom to profit from such a sure thing?

123 nemus  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 9:36:59pm

Here's the thing about Romney's chances. If they REALLY thought there was a viable chance to, for instance, win Ohio - they wouldn't have Paul Ryan in 'the great swing state' of Alabama at a fundraiser.

I think what I am most looking forward to is the inside info dumps once the campaign is over, because I would LOVE to hear the details behind some of the .. less than politically savvy decisions the R/R camp has made.

I do expect the next 11 days to be all sorts of ugly, though - but then I really, really am curious as to exactly WHAT the GOP does come November 7th, assuming Barack is declared the winner and we don't have a couple weeks of uncertainty.

124 Mich-again  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 9:37:59pm

re: #120 Dark_Falcon

Gambling is just as dumb as cutting up $20 dollar bills into little tiny pieces of confetti, but its much quicker.

125 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 9:38:31pm

re: #121 ozbloke

/ We call them bribes in Australia.

Nope. Those were all magazines, purchased in order to find vendors I might not find elsewhere or that contained names of relevant offices within federal agencies. I would then call those companies and offices ID'd as relevant, try to find their decision makers and pitch them on attending a conference. Nothing done was illegal or dishonest.

126 nemus  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 9:41:04pm

re: #124 Mich-again

Gambling is just as dumb as cutting up $20 dollar bills into little tiny pieces of confetti, but its much quicker.

I semi-disagree, as an avid poker player. Then again, I don't exactly consider poker 'gambling' in the same way that slot machines are, for instance.

127 freetoken  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 9:41:46pm

re: #114 Daniel Ballard

Oh you bet. Brass, silver, copper are all happening huge. Creative vibrant and affordable. Color is IN.

Gold will be back, even platinum can be found under $600.

What is your common mans/womans price point?

Roaming around San Diego it seems to me that there is still quite a bit of down-market pressure on adornment.

While traditional religious (crucifixes - remember, SD being originally a Catholic place) and ceremonial (wedding) jewelry is still seen, I notice a dearth of other fine jewelry. Indeed, when I see someone wearing a gold ring (other than a wedding band) it catches my eye because its something that doesn't seem as common as it used to be.

The craft fairs I've scrounged in the recent past have not seen much as far as craftsmen showing expensive wares, and "jewelry" tends to be body piercing stuff.

I do not foresee gold and platinum prices coming down significantly unless (1) we enter another global recession, in which case reduced industrial demand will depress platinum, or (2) the US economy recovers at a stronger pace compared to the rest of the world and the dollar strengthens, weakening gold.

Copper and brass, as you know, is difficult to wear against skin continually (due to discoloration). I've been wondering if the other PGMs, such as Ruthenium, might see some fashion attention, but apparently not. Likewise for the more exotic group 4 or 5 metals, which are much more difficult to work with but got some attention from the art crowd. But none of those metals have stuck as a trend.

128 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 9:42:20pm

re: #123 nemus

Hey, welcome Hatchling.

129 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 9:42:42pm

re: #122 goddamnedfrank

I don't bet on elections, ever. Period. Let the oddsmakers think what they want, I don't care.

130 blueraven  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 9:43:08pm

re: #120 Dark_Falcon

It is what it is. I've never found gambling enjoyable, so I don't do it. I'll spend extra money on my work though, hoping to use the supplies or leads sources I've purchased to increase my sales. That's the kind of risk I prefer, risk where I can directly effect the outcome, whereas betting on an election or football game would deny me that control.

Not really. You can make calls for the campaign, knock on doors, contribute in many ways.

See, most of us Obama voters feel like we can affect the outcome.

I am in TX so I make phone calls to swing state voters and contribute cash when I can. I will also be voting for as many people as possible to help promote Obama's agenda.

Look at Decatur Deb, he is probably in Florida as we speak, doing his thing to GOTV.

I can see why though, with you not being a corporation and all, you may not feel the same about Romney. I mean really, will your ten bucks make a difference? /

131 geoduck  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 9:43:49pm

Re: metal. I was under the impression that copper prices have gone up so much recently there are problems with people stealing it from plumbing and electrical systems to sell as scrap.

132 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 9:44:20pm

re: #130 blueraven

Not really. You can make calls for the campaign, knock on doors, contribute in many ways.

See, most of us Obama voters feel like we can affect the outcome.

I am in TX so, I make phone calls to swing state voters and contribute cash when I can. I will also be voting for as many people as possible to help promote Obama's agenda.

Look at Decatur Deb, he is probably in Florida as we speak, doing his thing to GOTV.

I can see why though, with you not being a corporation and all, you may not feel the same about Romney. I mean really, will your ten bucks make a difference? /

I'm doing a OFA call bank tomorrow. I think we are calling Ohio or N. Carolina. I'll find out & report back.

133 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 9:45:12pm

re: #130 blueraven

I was talking about what and when I am willing to risk. Volunteering for a campaign is not really the same.

134 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 9:45:31pm

re: #125 Dark_Falcon

Nope. Those were all magazines, purchased in order to find vendors I might not find elsewhere or that contained names of relevant offices within federal agencies. I would then call those companies and offices ID'd as relevant, try to find their decision makers and pitch them on attending a conference. Nothing done was illegal or dishonest.

The vast majority of reviews of Marcus Evans over at Glassdoor make the place seem like a bleak, soulless hellhole.

135 freetoken  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 9:45:45pm

re: #123 nemus

Here's the thing about Romney's chances. If they REALLY thought there was a viable chance to, for instance, win Ohio - they wouldn't have Paul Ryan in 'the great swing state' of Alabama at a fundraiser.

Exactly. Iowa is supposedly a possible play, and it is just across the river from WI so you think it'd be a natural for Ryan to stump in IA, but is he?

And with NV, with such a large Mormon population one would think that the Romneys could really push hard there, but has he?

If this were Japan I'd swear there's a bit of kabuki going on here.

136 freetoken  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 9:47:23pm

re: #131 geoduck

Re: metal. I was under the impression that copper prices have gone up so much recently there are problems with people stealing it from plumbing and electrical systems to sell as scrap.

That was true a few years ago. The Great Recession pushed down industrial metal prices, though they seem to want to perk back up.

137 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 9:48:05pm
138 Varek Raith  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 9:53:30pm

re: #137 Page 3 in the Binder of Women

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Stupid Canadian high pressure!

139 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 9:53:54pm

re: #134 goddamnedfrank

For the most part I enjoyed my time there and got along well with my managers and co-workers. I'm not going to respond to complaints made by other people, save to say that "bleak, soulless hellhole" was not my experience.

140 HappyWarrior  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 9:54:07pm

So not looking forward to Sandy. Cold and wet is no way to go through life son.

141 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 9:56:40pm

re: #140 HappyWarrior

So not looking forward to Sandy. Cold and wet is no way to go through life son.

Here in Chicago you get used to it.

142 freetoken  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 9:57:43pm

re: #140 HappyWarrior

Well, here it is so very dry (RH down to single digits) we have a Red Flag warning. SoCal could go up like a pile of straw, which the back country basically is this time of year.

143 HappyWarrior  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 9:58:38pm

re: #142 freetoken

Well, here it is so very dry (RH down to single digits) we have a Red Flag warning. SoCal could go up like a pile of straw, which the back country basically is this time of year.

Yeah I hear that Dodgers and Angels games rarely get rained out. i don't mind a little rain but man do I dislike the rain combined with the cold.

144 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 9:59:12pm

re: #142 freetoken

Well, here it is so very dry (RH down to single digits) we have a Red Flag warning. SoCal could go up like a pile of straw, which the back country basically is this time of year.

It was blowing pretty good earlier, now calm. Will it start up again tomorrow am I wonder.

145 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 10:00:03pm

FUCK IT, I'm having some of that ice cream that has been rotting away in my freez.

146 geoduck  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 10:00:14pm

Finally back to our standard drizzling rain in the Pacific Northwest after months of abnormal dryness. The weather's definitely changed these last few years.

147 HappyWarrior  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 10:00:42pm

re: #141 Dark_Falcon

Here in Chicago you get used to it.

Windy City state of mind :). Yeah it could be worse. Our winters aren't as bad as yours. I think I'd be best in a subtropical climate.

148 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 10:03:50pm

re: #145 Page 3 in the Binder of Women

FUCK IT, I'm having some of that ice cream that has been rotting away in my freez.

It was hard as a rock. I got it out tho. MMMMMMMM

149 darthstar  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 10:04:07pm

Hey everyone...happy to have my wife home every night until at least Wednesday next week (unless the Giants don't win two in Detroit)...she was asked if she wanted to go to Detroit with the team, but that would have meant being on the team plane at 8:30 this morning when she didn't get home until 11:00 last night. The upside is she would get to relax and see the games...the down side would be that she would be in Detroit for four days and I would be home without her. Glad she declined.

150 darthstar  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 10:04:39pm

re: #148 Page 3 in the Binder of Women

It was hard as a rock. I got it out tho. MMMMMMMM

In ten minutes it'll be perfect.

151 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 10:05:09pm

re: #127 freetoken

Interesting view. The recession has put a damper on the "bling". Dollars are not really there apart from the high end. In terms of metals that wont discolor, all ya have is precious metals and white to gray. Tungsten, titanium, stainless. All white or gray. BTW we have silver that is very tarnish resistant. And none of the non precious metals have any lasting material value at all.

At risk of TL;DR
Gold of course is the only yellow element and it does not tarnish. Brass and bronze alloys tarnish. Copper is the only red element. All these are easily worked. Or combined for color like rose gold. In extremis we can make purple gold, but it's brittle like glass. We can coat afordable brass or bronze to resist tarnish. Works okay.

In the white look my favorite metal is 95% palladium. Disclaimer-I was on the team that re formulated it for jewelry use some years ago. But I make a living on any precious jewelry metal. It's a mild bias.

Factors-Platinum group, high purity, won't tarnish, no allergies like white gold can be an issue with. About $600 per ounce, pretty accessible. Small rings/items under $200 retail.

What can and might happen in pricing-Take the speculator bubble out of gold in large part and it's hundreds per ounce more affordable. Given some stability in market pricing and some income growth like jobs and the middle class meets gold all over again. Probably a little lighter in design than years ago. Maybe 14kt in a high tech alloy that is light and strong.

Gold was coming back strong at $1500 mere months ago. $1500-$1300 gold and say 7% unemployment for a year or so and we are back.

152 darthstar  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 10:07:23pm

So, now we know the truth...Barack Obama isn't a Kenyan...he's a Somali Pirate!

153 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 10:09:43pm

re: #152 darthstar

So, now we know the truth...Barack Obama isn't a Kenyan...he's a Somali Pirate!

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Love the stache.

154 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 10:10:35pm

re: #152 darthstar

So, now we know the truth...Barack Obama isn't a Kenyan...he's a Somali Pirate!

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I had been expecting some sort of nasty photoshop, so the actual pic was a pleasant surprise.

And with that, I'm going to bed. Good Night, All.

155 darthstar  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 10:11:17pm

re: #153 Page 3 in the Binder of Women

Love the stache.

Gas, grass, or stache...nobody rides for free.
(see what I did there?)

156 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 10:12:09pm

re: #127 freetoken

The big thing in precious, that you can not offshore is custom made to order. These days the customer can design or co design with the jeweler. CAD, cast, set, polish, deliver one of a kind truly unique jewelry in a couple days. That's the growth sector.

157 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 10:12:25pm

re: #155 darthstar

Gas, grass, or stache...nobody rides for free.
(see what I did there?)

lol, take it to twitter, you.

158 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 10:15:52pm

re: #156 Daniel Ballard

so my next wedding ring should be 95% palladium?

159 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 10:16:42pm

Okay we see too much towercam. But the moonlight just makes science look too good to ignore.

Image: towercam.jpg

160 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 10:18:13pm

re: #158 Page 3 in the Binder of Women

If you like the white look sure. Unless you can go platinum and not crimp your style. But it's totally better than white gold by any measure.

161 darthstar  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 10:18:16pm

re: #157 Page 3 in the Binder of Women

lol, take it to twitter, you.

Twitter is far too respectable a place for such posts.

162 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 10:20:31pm

re: #160 Daniel Ballard

If you like the white look sure. Unless you can go platinum and not crimp your style. But it's totally better than white gold by any measure.

I had platinum before. It was weak. The band got thinner @ the bottom. I felt like we overpaid.

Like I'm getting married anytime soon.

163 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 10:21:13pm

re: #161 darthstar

Twitter is far too respectable a place for such posts.

You were made for twitter. I love it.

164 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 10:25:09pm

re: #162 Page 3 in the Binder of Women

Hey ever heard of the right hand ring? It was a shameless promotion, but the idea was good. Girl, go get yourself a ring and wear it on your right hand. A fun ring, in a shape you love, with or without diamonds. Feel pretty with it. :-)

For all that I'm making a second career in photography, jewelry making has been the thing in my family since the 1800's.

edit added
Platinum and all the very pure precious metals (18k 22k Pt Pd)are kinda weak unless made thick enough. Tough at these prices

165 darthstar  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 10:25:57pm

re: #163 Page 3 in the Binder of Women

You were made for twitter. I love it.

Twitter was made for me. But there are already some established personalities there - LOLGOP, BeardedStoner, JesusGeneral...I'm happy just sitting back and watching them.

166 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 10:27:23pm

re: #164 Daniel Ballard

Hey ever heard of the right hand ring? It was a shameless promotion, but the idea was good. Girl, go get yourself a ring and wear it on your right hand. A fun ring, in a shape you love, with or without diamonds. Feel pretty with it. :-)

For all that I'm making a second career in photography, jewelry making has been the thing in my family since the 1800's.

Yep, I will do it hopefully soon. My ex-sister in law has the most beautiful tiny diamond band. I want it. But the new metal sounds like something I'd like to drop on a jeweler. Thanks.

167 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 10:28:06pm

re: #165 darthstar

Twitter was made for me. But there are already some established personalities there - LOLGOP, BeardedStoner, JesusGeneral...I'm happy just sitting back and watching them.

Keep spewing. You are very very close imo.

I love people when I read my twitter feed.

168 freetoken  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 10:28:23pm

re: #162 Page 3 in the Binder of Women

I had platinum before. It was weak. The band got thinner @ the bottom. I felt like we overpaid.

Are you sure it was platinum? Even the softest Platinum Group Metal - Palladium, is pretty hard compared to the group 11 metals (copper, silver, gold).

169 darthstar  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 10:34:11pm

You know what I'd really like to see? The next seven days' polls showing a growing lead for President Obama. Two points nationally on Sunday, three on Monday, four on Tuesday, five on Wednesday, six on Thursday, seven on Friday, eight on Saturday - and corresponding state polls - +7 in FL, NV, and CO, +8 in OH, +6 in VA...just turn this whole fucking race into a goddamn landslide where the GOP is so dejected that they don't even show up in red states. I want the margin to be so big that, on election day, when Wolf takes the stage on CNN and starts to talk about how they'll bring us the breaking news on who will win the presidency, his producers do a voice-over to say, "Shut the fuck up, Wolf...you're only here to recite the numbers as they come in...and if you can't handle that, we'll get John King to take care of it."

170 freetoken  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 10:34:19pm

Anyway, one thing about jewelry is that it is a very clear statement about adorning oneself.

I bring it up in part because I think we as a society are still pretty skittish about our economy, and over the recent months while I'm out milling about I'm trying to be more aware of how people are acting around me. Lots of people appear to be pressured, under duress.

This is the thing about which if Romney was an approachable, warm, "in-touch" type of guy he could have successfully honed in on. From his statements I get the impression that analysts are telling him to focus on the frustration of the American people, but frankly he just can't connect with the 99% of us who aren't in the top 1%.

171 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 10:36:09pm

re: #168 freetoken

Are you sure it was platinum? Even the softest Platinum Group Metal - Palladium, is pretty hard compared to the group 11 metals (copper, silver, gold).

Well, yes. Unless Marco @ the Diamond Source ripped us off.

172 Mich-again  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 10:39:46pm

re: #170 freetoken

From his statements I get the impression that analysts are telling him to focus on the frustration of the American people, but frankly he just can't connect with the 99% of us who aren't in the top 1%.

From birth Mitt has been insulated from the commoners. He has no idea what it means to fit in or try to connect. His only experiences dealing with the common folk have been in restaurants. Hey waiter, over here!

173 freetoken  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 10:42:00pm

re: #171 Page 3 in the Binder of Women

Good ol' Marco may not have known himself.

See, that's the thing about our society, expertise is hard to come by and even harder to judge by those without training in the field in question.

And the last person I ever trust is a salesman. It's not that every salesperson is actually trying to take their customer for a ride. But, and I learned this over the years from having several friends in the auto sales business - salesmen have to believe in their product to be really good at the job. And that often means they themselves can be duped, because needing to believe something is such a human trait but one which has no guarantee of truth.

174 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 10:43:46pm

re: #173 freetoken

Brilliant.

175 Kronocide  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 10:45:12pm

Obama 'made problem worse'

Republican Mitt Romney says the president inherited a bad economy but didn't do anything to try to repair it.

Wow.

176 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 10:46:34pm

re: #173 freetoken
re: #174 Page 3 in the Binder of Women

If it's not stamped, it's not the real deal, But if it is stamped, you can be pretty sure it is what it is stamped. Not certain but any hands on goldsmith can tell in a second. Might be 900, 950 or Pt in the ring shank.

177 HappyWarrior  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 10:48:19pm

re: #175 Kronocide

Obama 'made problem worse'

Republican Mitt Romney says the president inherited a bad economy but didn't do anything to try to repair it.

Wow.

Didn't do anything? Wow, that's low even for him. Really would be nice if someone in the media finally decided to call out Romney on his lies because he's gotten away with a lot of them this campaign season.

178 Kronocide  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 10:48:42pm

re: #173 freetoken

In my market my competitor is a larger company, my old employer. They told a client proxy that I have little capacity and few employees, which seems to be a key talking point as of late.

I said 'Yes, I'm smaller. I don't have any salesmen.'

179 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 10:50:01pm

Good night now.

180 SteveMcG  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 10:52:40pm

I think a good Obama ad would be a long string of Romney cuts from the Republican primary debates.

181 HappyWarrior  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 10:55:40pm

re: #180 SteveMcG

I think a good Obama ad would be a long string of Romney cuts from the Republican primary debates.

Saw one of those tonight actually with Romney taking abortion and Planned Parenthood. Anyone who believes that he will only focus on fiscal issues if elected and be a social moderate is deluding themselves.

182 SteveMcG  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 11:00:21pm

When Arlen Spector won his last Senate campaign, I think in 2004, he tried to present himself as a dam against Republican craziness. He said that since he would be Chairman of the Judiciary committee, he would try to keep the RWNJ's off the federal bench. Right after the election, the GOP forced him to promise he would give all the nominees a fair chance if he wanted to keep that chairmanship. As much as Romney may want to pretend he's a moderate, he knows and the party knows exactly what is expected of him.

183 HappyWarrior  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 11:04:30pm

re: #182 SteveMcG

When Arlen Spector won his last Senate campaign, I think in 2004, he tried to present himself as a dam against Republican craziness. He said that since he would be Chairman of the Judiciary committee, he would try to keep the RWNJ's off the federal bench. Right after the election, the GOP forced him to promise he would give all the nominees a fair chance if he wanted to keep that chairmanship. As much as Romney may want to pretend he's a moderate, he knows and the party knows exactly what is expected of him.

Precisely, I think even if Romney wanted to be a social moderate, he'd have a difficult time doing so. I honestly see no reason to think he will even try to be though given the direction of his party.

184 Digital Display  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 11:16:06pm

Here is a little advanced scouting for the Oklahoma-Notre Dame game here Saturday night. It is a huge game. They have hated them for years losing 8 of 9. Every night they have been practicing at Owens field.. The lights shine through my bedroom window so a few times a year I have to put a big blanket up to block the light. It's not the light..It's the sounds that carry a 1/2 mile away.
It's like a Marine bootcamp getting ready to kill people. It's savage out there.
Oklahoma doesn't want to win, They want to destroy the Irish.
There will be pain, injuries and broken bones and poor Notre Dame is pulling into Norman expecting a normal football game.
It is going to be forever a classic game for college football

185 Kragar  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 11:22:02pm

Hey guys, don't worry about the Hurricane. Cindy Jacobs is on it.

Prayer Points:

1. Rebuke this storm in Jesus' name. The authority of the believer is powerful enough to shift weather patterns! (Matthew 17:20)

2. Declare that the Prince of Peace reigns over this hurricane, and that His peace will cause the storm to diminish. (Isaiah 9:6)

3. Pray that this storm will not disrupt our Reformation Day prayer initiatives in the eastern states. (Isaiah 54:17)

4. Pray that the Lord would protect every person on the eastern coast, and that there would be no fatalities or serious injuries. (Psalm 91; It would also be good to declare this passage of scripture over the eastern states.)

5. Worship God for his provision, protection, and peace in the midst of storms. (Psalm 59:16)

Thank you for praying with us!

Standing with you,
Mike and Cindy Jacobs

186 boredtechindenver  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 11:41:44pm

heehee

187 researchok  Fri, Oct 26, 2012 11:48:28pm

Morning, all

188 freetoken  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 12:02:40am
189 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 12:03:12am

re: #187 researchok

Morning, all

I iz sleeping - try again later

190 researchok  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 12:06:24am

re: #188 freetoken

That's funny

191 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 12:08:19am

re: #188 freetoken

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Everything gets a laugh track nowadays it seems...

192 freetoken  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 12:11:33am

For all you Louis Prima fans out there - with the swing revival in the 90's Louis picked up a new generation of fans, but most of the material that got replayed was from his post WWII days (with Keely Smith, etc. .)

Here's something pre WWII, from 1936:

193 Kragar  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 12:15:06am

In 1969 a young Australian, John Rendall and his friend Ace Bourke, bought a small lion cub from Harrods pet department, which was then legal. 'Christian' was kept in the basement of a furniture shop on the Kings Road in Chelsea, the heart of the swinging sixties. Loved by all, the affectionate cub ate in a local restaurant, played in a nearby graveyard, but was growing fast...

A chance encounter with Bill Travers and Virginia McKenna led to a new life for Christian. He came to live in a huge enclosure and to sleep in a caravan at their Surrey home. Then in 1971 he was flown to Kenya, his ancestral home, and returned to the wild by lion-man George Adamson. Nine months later in 1972, John and Ace returned to Kora in Kenya. This clip is of their reunion at that time.

194 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 12:16:31am

re: #184 Digital Display

I hope you are going?
*waves*
Is your phone on?

195 AK-47%  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 12:18:43am

re: #42 Dark_Falcon

Good time then for the Meatloaf endorsement, since it lets Mitt pal around with someone with some legit fame and avoid talking about that silly ad. Republicans should just ignore it. She's trolling, and the best reaction to a troller is to ignore them.

It is not trolling in the classic sense, she does mention issues of importance. She talked about voting, knowing full well that they way she did it would arouse all the puerile, suppressed sexual longings that these poor conservative fellows have beein trying to hide or contain since puberty and get them all hot under the collar...It is "trolling" in the sense that it is designed to provoke an overreaction, which it did.

196 Kragar  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:20:23am

I think Moonraker had to be the silliest James Bond film.

197 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:28:13am

re: #196 Kragar

I think Moonraker had to be the silliest James Bond film.

Probably. Very campy, and did not age well.

198 Kragar  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:31:20am

re: #197 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Probably. Very campy, and did not age well.

The Living Daylights seems very laughable now, where Bond teams up with friendly Taliban fighters to stop a Russian drug dealer in Afghanistan.

199 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:34:47am

re: #198 Kragar

The Living Daylights seems very laughable now, where Bond teams up with friendly Taliban fighters to stop a Russian drug dealer in Afghanistan.

A View to a Kill is pretty weak too. Probably the worst Moore performance and Christopher Walken chewing scenery.

200 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:47:42am

Hmm... If you look at Bond movies you'd often think that rich industrialists are a greater threat to the West than the Communist countries were in that time period.

201 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 2:15:05am

Back from some early A.M. shopping, third time now I have bought Halloween candy to hand out, it just keeps disappearing somehow (I blame the cat).

202 Targetpractice  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 2:21:56am

re: #201 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You

Back from some early A.M. shopping, third time now I have bought Halloween candy to hand out, it just keeps disappearing somehow (I blame the cat).

"Bad kitty, those are my Kit Kats!"

203 freetoken  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 2:36:56am

And now, for something totally obscure.

Balakirev's "Cantata for the opening of the monument to Mikhail Glinka for soloists, chorus and orchestra" :

204 AK-47%  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 3:36:51am

I am an old fuddy-duddy when it comes to Bond, to me he is Sean Connery. I grudgingly accepted Roger Moore, but nobody else since.

Likewise Doctor Who: Jon Pertwee and Tom Morton are Doctor Who, the rest are just parvenues...

205 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:16:23am

More and more models show Sandy hitting here. One of the managers where I work joked that we are all gonna die on Tuesday. I asked him to loan me $20 and I'd pay him on Wednesday. Tomorrow I am off and going to the store for last minute provisions, doing laundry and bringing in some firewood. A snow/hurricane. Well, there's a first for me.
And good morning honcos.

206 AK-47%  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:19:09am

Flurricane?

207 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:22:17am

re: #206 AK-47%

Flurricane?

Snow cone maker. I'll have to buy some purple and red syrups.

208 AK-47%  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:27:13am

We had a storm in Chicago that started with 4" of sleet, followed by 4" of snow and then another 4" of sleet. A real shit sandwich, the snowplows could not get out of the depots...Followed by -28°F temps. Shut the town down for a week...that was when I decided to move to Arizona.

209 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:27:50am

Not everyone is happy about Mystery Monkey's capture
The men who captured the Mystery Monkey of Tampa Bay say they've been getting threats from people upset the elusive rhesus macaque is behind bars.
[Link: www.tampabay.com...]

Sheesh.

210 b_sharp  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:30:07am

Well, it's 5:25 am here, I haven't slept since 6:00 am yesterday, my temp keeps bouncing around between 37 and 40.5 C, restless leg syndrome is driving me nuts, I have a dumb headache that won't go away, I'm almost throwing up every half-hour or so and my stomach is causing me pain, especially when I take Tylenol.

Aside from that I'm great. How are you folks doing?

211 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:30:45am

re: #208 AK-47%

When I was living in Canada in 1998 I was bitching about there being no snow. Then we got 4 feet one week and 4 feet the next. At that point I decided to 1)stop bitching and 2)hate snow.

212 b_sharp  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:32:30am

re: #211 Cannadian Club Akbar

When I was living in Canada in 1998 I was bitching about there being no snow. Then we got 4 feet one week and 4 feet the next. At that point I decided to 1)stop bitching and 2)hate snow.

Prudent choices.

213 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:33:24am

re: #210 b_sharp

Eat lime jello and drink 7-UP. Won't help your stomach but it doesn't taste horrible when you throw up. Sorry, that's all I got...

214 Targetpractice  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:35:19am

Well, I'm breathing a sigh of relief, seems the "cone of uncertainty" has moved well north of here, so Sandy shouldn't be making an appearance beyond a lot of wind and rain. Not that those are every something to take lightly, but still.

215 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:35:46am

Fuck, Sandy is going to totally screw up my kickboxing class on Monday. Goddamn. I love that class.

216 b_sharp  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:38:24am

re: #215 Obdicut

Fuck, Sandy is going to totally screw up my kickboxing class on Monday. Goddamn. I love that class.

Practice at home. You must have a bag.

217 b_sharp  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:40:20am

BBL

I'm going to give sleeping one more chance.

218 DisturbedEma  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:40:35am

re: #208 AK-47%

Ah yes Wisconsin gets wonderful remixes like that

219 AK-47%  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:40:52am

re: #218 DisturbedEma

Ah yes Wisconsin gets wonderful remixes like that

Lake Effect

220 DisturbedEma  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:41:30am

Morning all-hope all of you are well

221 DisturbedEma  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:44:46am

re: #219 AK-47%

When I lived in Green Bay I had not yet understood that term and just how much more snow it could add. Moved south toward Milwaukee living right on the lake schooled me right away-2 feet of snow the first week I lived there

222 DisturbedEma  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:46:50am

I 'm kind of dreading winter this year not quite sure why.

223 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:47:28am

Florida Hospital worker, wife face child porn charges
TAMPA — Deputies arrested a man and wife accused of possessing and sharing child pornography with the man's coworkers at Florida Hospital, officials said.
Maxwell Kwaku Owusu Asubonteng, 28, was at work at Florida Hospital on Thursday when he received a message on his cell phone from his wife, Adjoa Frimpo Owusu Asubonteng, 28, deputies said. The message contained a video depicting a 4-year-old boy and an 11-year-old girl engaged in sexual acts, officials said.

[Link: www.tampabay.com...]
WTF?

224 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:51:31am

re: #214 Targetpractice

Well, I'm breathing a sigh of relief, seems the "cone of uncertainty" has moved well north of here, so Sandy shouldn't be making an appearance beyond a lot of wind and rain. Not that those are every something to take lightly, but still.

My friend is downplaying this whole thing. I showed him the satellite loop then walked outside and pointed to the clouds from the outer bands of this thing. But then again, in 2004, he brought all the contents from his freezer to my house because he lost power. I'll guess that 50% of people in Florida aren't prepared for a hurricane. Up here I'll bet it's more like 75%.

225 Targetpractice  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:55:28am

re: #224 Cannadian Club Akbar

My friend is downplaying this whole thing. I showed him the satellite loop then walked outside and pointed to the clouds from the outer bands of this thing. But then again, in 2004, he brought all the contents from his freezer to my house because he lost power. I'll guess that 50% of people in Florida aren't prepared for a hurricane. Up here I'll bet it's more like 75%.

I've been remarking to friends here that you can tell the difference between the new folks and the old-timers. The new folks freak out at the first mention of hurricanes, clear out the stores, and horde gasoline like it's molten gold.

The old-timers don't freak out because they've usually got a reserve in their pantry "just in case" and don't freak out until the forecasters know with certainty that the hurricane's coming this way.

226 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:01:51am

re: #225 Targetpractice

In Florida, if a hurricane is 2-3 days away you'd think the world was coming to an end. Home Depot is swamped. Publix is swamped. I would start getting supplies in April/May. Just an extra gallon of water a week and an extra can of ravioli and so on. When season ended I would give the food to a food bank (usually the USPS food drive) and drink the water.

227 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:03:10am

re: #225 Targetpractice

Yes. It is the same here in Philly. I just came back from my local supermarket where bottled water is the hot item this weekend. I just got my usual stuff.

228 AK-47%  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:03:48am

re: #226 Cannadian Club Akbar

In Florida, if a hurricane is 2-3 days away you'd think the world was coming to an end. Home Depot is swamped. Publix is swamped. I would start getting supplies in April/May. Just an extra gallon of water a week and an extra can of ravioli and so on. When season ended I would give the food to a food bank (usually the USPS food drive) and drink the water.

Humans react to impending crises, not to abstract statistical threats.

That is why it is going to take us a weapons grade constitutional crisis-inducing clusterf*ck of an election debacle before we seriously approach issues of voter registration, vote counting and election policies in general.

229 Joanne  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:05:56am
230 Targetpractice  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:07:45am

re: #226 Cannadian Club Akbar

In Florida, if a hurricane is 2-3 days away you'd think the world was coming to an end. Home Depot is swamped. Publix is swamped. I would start getting supplies in April/May. Just an extra gallon of water a week and an extra can of ravioli and so on. When season ended I would give the food to a food bank (usually the USPS food drive) and drink the water.

'round here, the folks who really have to worry are in one of three groups: Live on the beach, live on the Peninsula, or live in a low-lying area. The first and third have to deal with storm surge, the second has to deal with the initial brunt of landfall, and all three have to deal with utilities being down for extended periods. If you live in the burbs, like I do, then the worst you have to worry about is falling tree branches, the brief (1-2 day max) power outages, and the general media hysteria.

231 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:10:53am

re: #230 Targetpractice

In 2004 I had friends that lost power for up to 5 days. Which is manageable. But when the hurricanes left, it was still 90 degrees. In 2004 I lost power for 4 hours total. But I lived on the grid that was used by the utility companies where they would muster to plan their day.

232 Targetpractice  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:11:22am

Oh, and we also have to deal with the embarrassment of the jackasses who flock to the beach in the hopes that they either see the huge friggin' waves or get their brief 15 seconds of fame running by the Weather Channel cameras. And I gotta say, I feel sorry for the reporters who apparently draw the short straw and get stuck reporting "on location" for the Weather Channel.

233 Targetpractice  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:13:23am

re: #231 Cannadian Club Akbar

In 2004 I had friends that lost power for up to 5 days. Which is manageable. But when the hurricanes left, it was still 90 degrees. In 2004 I lost power for 4 hours total. But I lived on the grid that was used by the utility companies where they would muster to plan their day.

Of the last two major hurricanes to roll through, Isabel knocked out power here for all of two days, though part of that was an idiot neighbor who didn't call Dominion Power because his house still had power and so didn't think reporting the power line down in his yard a "priority." And Irene caused short blips, but never killed power. We only lost power for a couple hours the next day because the power crews working in the next neighborhood over had to shut down this part of the grid to replace a blown transformer.

234 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:19:28am

The cone of death is showing the thing right over me on Tuesday at 2AM. I work at 6AM. Okie dokie.

235 Targetpractice  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:20:56am

re: #234 Cannadian Club Akbar

The cone of death is showing the thing right over me on Tuesday at 2AM. I work at 6AM. Okie dokie.

That's alright, they were calling for 3-5' of storm surge down in NC, including Elizabeth City, where my old works at the Coast Guard station there. Considering they're sitting right on the river front, that much surge might actually flood the building he works at.

236 BeenHereAwhile  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:37:34am

re: #226 Cannadian Club Akbar

In Florida, if a hurricane is 2-3 days away you'd think the world was coming to an end. Home Depot is swamped. Publix is swamped. I would start getting supplies in April/May. Just an extra gallon of water a week and an extra can of ravioli and so on. When season ended I would give the food to a food bank (usually the USPS food drive) and drink the water.

Buy water in gallon jugs, pour out three cups of water from each jug (make coffee, etc).
Freeze the partially full gallon jugs in your freezer, which will slow thawing in times of no electricity. When the water melts due to thawing, drink the cool water. Bags of ice are useless after thawing as the water leaks out & un-drinkable.
Last thing to do before a hurricane, is to mow your lawn. It makes clean up

237 A Mom Anon  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:43:01am

re: #109 ninja cat

I just put this on my facebook page. I really hope my neighbor,who thinks every fertilized egg deserves a chance at life, reads it and shuts the hell up for a couple of days. Maybe her husband,Mr. I don't want my tax dollars paying for Planned Parenthood sponsored abortions,will read it too,and also have a nice warm and comforting cup of STFU. And I mean that in the nicest possible way.

I was trying to explain the concept that alot of these idiot rwnj men sound like they support rapists,(hell some of them say the same shit a rapist says to justify what they do) to a friend of mine the other day and I couldn't articulate it well. Mr Scalzi nailed it in that letter.

238 Targetpractice  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:50:54am

Really, if I'm concerned about anything, it's that my boss might close the shop of Monday. Not that I wouldn't mind the extra day of rest, but that's also money out of my pocket.

239 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:03:40am

So I applied for a job as a commercial kitchen designer 3 weeks ago. Yesterday got an email from the owner of the company. I just checked my cell phone and she left me a message to call her back to set up a phone interview. This would be cool.

240 wheat-dogg  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:04:49am

re: #213 Cannadian Club Akbar

Eat lime jello and drink 7-UP. Won't help your stomach but it doesn't taste horrible when you throw up. Sorry, that's all I got...

Ginger ale and soda crackers was my mom's recommended diet for flu sufferers. The ginger, I learned much later, helps settle upset stomachs.

241 Targetpractice  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:10:25am

re: #240 wheat-dogg

Ginger ale and soda crackers was my mom's recommended diet for flu sufferers. The ginger, I learned much later, helps settle upset stomachs.

I was always told Sprite, but to each their own.

242 Decatur Deb  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:11:28am

re: #231 Cannadian Club Akbar

In 2004 I had friends that lost power for up to 5 days. Which is manageable. But when the hurricanes left, it was still 90 degrees. In 2004 I lost power for 4 hours total. But I lived on the grid that was used by the utility companies where they would muster to plan their day.

We are far enough inland that we are a shelter destination for Gulf Coast evacuations. Opal was a rare one, was still about 110 mph when it went right over. One of our 60' pines came down and took out neighborhood power for about 10 days. We just 'camped-in'.

243 Shropshire_Slasher  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:11:50am

re: #240 wheat-dogg

My mom always recommended the B.R.A.T. diet
B-Banananas
R-Rice
A-Apples
T-Toast (no butter)
Basically no fat, 'cuz it will run right thru ya.

244 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:13:32am

Horse shit. When sick, drink booze. Have enough and you'll forget that you are sick.
///

245 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:13:41am

re: #239 Cannadian Club Akbar

So I applied for a job as a commercial kitchen designer 3 weeks ago. Yesterday got an email from the owner of the company. I just checked my cell phone and she left me a message to call her back to set up a phone interview. This would be cool.

Make sure you wear clean underwear!

246 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:14:15am

re: #245 sattv4u2

Make sure you wear clean underwear!

Now I have to wear underwear?

247 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:14:46am

re: #246 Cannadian Club Akbar

Now I have to wear underwear?

Well, I figured you wouldn't be wearing pants, so ,,,,

248 Decatur Deb  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:15:17am

re: #246 Cannadian Club Akbar

Now I have to wear underwear?

If underwear is an interview issue you might need to recheck the job description.

249 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:16:54am

If I do get an in person interview, I'll have to get a haircut. Damnit!!

250 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:19:17am

re: #249 Cannadian Club Akbar

If I do get an in person interview, I'll have to get a haircut. Damnit!!

Just put it up in a bun, like Auntie Bee

Image: Bee07.jpg

251 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:19:54am

So today is the world's largest cocktail party in Jacksonville. Stanley Sea will back me up on that!!

252 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:21:55am

re: #251 Cannadian Club Akbar

So today is the world's largest cocktail party in Jacksonville. Stanley Sea will back me up on that!!

Yup,,, UGA vs Florida on "neutral" grounds

253 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:23:05am

Alrighty. Gotta get ready for worky. See y'all tonight. I'll call that woman on my way to work.:)

254 Shropshire_Slasher  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:24:48am

re: #243 Shropshire_Slasher

A is for applesauce, D'oh!

255 wheat-dogg  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:31:12am

Where I live now (south central China) has really boring weather. No hurricanes, tornadoes, severe t-storm watches, typhoons, floods, mudslides, blizzards. Just hot and muggy summers, and cold and wet winters. Nothing unusual (so far). All the really bad weather seems to bypass us.

Also, I learned that this part of China is earthquake-free, but not the next province over (Sichuan).

I'm not complaining. I've lived through several hurricanes, tornado seasons, blizzards, winter storm warnings, etc. -- enough severe weather for one lifetime, I think.

But I got friends and family on the East Coast, so I hope Sandy doesn't clobber y'all too bad.

256 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:33:04am

re: #250 sattv4u2

Just put it up in a bun, like Auntie Bee

Image: Bee07.jpg

That picture is from the sacrilegious post-Barney era and therefore your post is invalid, and you should feel bad.

257 ninja cat  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:34:42am

re: #231 Cannadian Club Akbar

I lost power for 3 days during 2004. Funny as we'd been battened down for Charlie and it went South of us, but the one with the most damage here was that one that slowly meandered across FL. I live in a neighborhood with huge oak trees galore, so it's par for the course.

258 Sionainn  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:37:02am

re: #255 wheat-dogg

Where I live now (south central China) has really boring weather. No hurricanes, tornadoes, severe t-storm watches, typhoons, floods, mudslides, blizzards. Just hot and muggy summers, and cold and wet winters. Nothing unusual (so far). All the really bad weather seems to bypass us.

Also, I learned that this part of China is earthquake-free, but not the next province over (Sichuan).

I'm not complaining. I've lived through several hurricanes, tornado seasons, blizzards, winter storm warnings, etc. -- enough severe weather for one lifetime, I think.

But I got friends and family on the East Coast, so I hope Sandy doesn't clobber y'all too bad.

My husband just got accepted as a HS science teacher to go somewhere in the Hunan province next June/July to help with some research. He's so excited!

259 wheat-dogg  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:41:18am

re: #258 Sionainn

Sweet! Hunan is a big province. I live in the northwest part, in Jishou, near Zhangjiajie. If you know which city he will be in, let me know.

It will be hot and humid here in June and July, like southern USA weather. He can expect highs in the 90s for days at a time.

260 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:45:26am

re: #256 Our Precious Bodily Fluids

That picture is from the sacrilegious post-Barney era and therefore your post is invalid, and you should feel bad.

Image: auntbee.jpg

261 Sionainn  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:45:38am

re: #259 wheat-dogg

Sweet! Hunan is a big province. I live in northwest part, in Jishou, near Zhangjiajie. If you know which city he will be in, let me know.

It will be hot and humid here in June and July, like southern USA weather. He can expect highs in the 90s for days at a time.

I will definitely let you know when I find out.

We live in Nevada, so are used to the heat, but definitely not the humidity. I'll have to get him some quick drying clothes to take.

I'm under the impression that they will be staying with families during the trip, so it should be quite an experience for him. I'm jealous.

262 Decatur Deb  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:54:04am

Gord lord. I just caught up with the video of Romney singing with Meatloaf and some CW types at a rally. Is that an attempt at sympathy votes? If you haven't seen it, the situation is frightening and cringe-making.

In other words, it needs wide dissemination. The Obama folks should pay for the air time.

263 Digital Display  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 7:07:15am

Good Morning Lizards. College game day is on ESPN right now. I need to take a walk down the street with Winston to check it out. On TV it's completely insane there right now. You can check out the crowds by my house right now on ESPN.

264 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 7:18:05am
265 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 7:25:17am

Okay, so this is a new one on me.

A friend of mine has emailed me and told me that her boyfriend beat her up, and that she's now in a women's shelter. She said she had two cracked ribs which were taped up at the hospital.

I dearly love my friend, however, she's bi-polar and I've known her to lie about very, very serious things before, to go off her meds, and to start fights when she's in a manic mode. Her boyfriend is someone I've met, showed no overt signs of being an asshole, and in fact had a long-ish conversation with me about how best to take care of her when she's having an episode. However, it still very well may have happened-- I've never known her to lie about the actions of others, just her own actions.

She hasn't asked for anything directly, but I'm very concerned for my friend. If her boyfriend did beat her up, then obviously that's a practical problem as well as an emotional one-- they live together, so someone will have to retrieve her stuff and I'd be fine being the guy to do it. If he didn't, then she's deep in a manic episode and needs help.

I'm really unsure of what to do. I can't just drop by on the shelter (they don't allow men at all, which I think is wise) but I could meet her nearby. Her sister lives in town as well, but I don't know if she's told her.

My instincts are to tell the sister, and arrange to meet my friend with her sister and then the sister and I can confer after to see what we feel we can do.

Does anyone have any advice? My adrenaline is pumping a bit after this email and I don't think I'm thinking that straight.

266 Sionainn  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 7:30:06am

re: #265 Obdicut

Okay, so this is a new one on me.

A friend of mine has emailed me and told me that her husband beat her up, and that she's now in a women's shelter. She said she had two cracked ribs which were taped up at the hospital.

I dearly love my friend, however, she's bi-polar and I've known her to lie about very, very serious things before, to go off her meds, and to start fights when she's in a manic mode. Her boyfriend is someone I've met, showed no overt signs of being an asshole, and in fact had a long-ish conversation with me about how best to take care of her when she's having an episode. However, it still very well may have happened-- I've never known her to lie about the actions of others, just her own actions.

She hasn't asked for anything directly, but I'm very concerned for my friend. If her boyfriend did beat her up, then obviously that's a practical problem as well as an emotional one-- they live together, so someone will have to retrieve her stuff and I'd be fine being the guy to do it. If he didn't, then she's deep in a manic episode and needs help.

I'm really unsure of what to do. I can't just drop by on the shelter (they don't allow men at all, which I think is wise) but I could meet her nearby. Her sister lives in town as well, but I don't know if she's told her.

My instincts are to tell the sister, and arrange to meet my friend with her sister and then the sister and I can confer after to see what we feel we can do.

Does anyone have any advice? My adrenaline is pumping a bit after this email and I don't think I'm thinking that straight.

Sounds like a good plan, to call the sister and then see what you two can do together.

267 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 7:30:45am

re: #238 Targetpractice

My job offered us "liberal leave" for Monday and Tuesday. I have to use vacation days but at least I will not be out in the possibly lousy weather.

268 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 7:31:09am

re: #265 Obdicut

Okay, so this is a new one on me.

A friend of mine has emailed me and told me that her husband beat her up, and that she's now in a women's shelter. She said she had two cracked ribs which were taped up at the hospital.

I dearly love my friend, however, she's bi-polar and I've known her to lie about very, very serious things before, to go off her meds, and to start fights when she's in a manic mode. Her boyfriend is someone I've met, showed no overt signs of being an asshole, and in fact had a long-ish conversation with me about how best to take care of her when she's having an episode. However, it still very well may have happened-- I've never known her to lie about the actions of others, just her own actions.

She hasn't asked for anything directly, but I'm very concerned for my friend. If her boyfriend did beat her up, then obviously that's a practical problem as well as an emotional one-- they live together, so someone will have to retrieve her stuff and I'd be fine being the guy to do it. If he didn't, then she's deep in a manic episode and needs help.

I'm really unsure of what to do. I can't just drop by on the shelter (they don't allow men at all, which I think is wise) but I could meet her nearby. Her sister lives in town as well, but I don't know if she's told her.

My instincts are to tell the sister, and arrange to meet my friend with her sister and then the sister and I can confer after to see what we feel we can do.

Does anyone have any advice? My adrenaline is pumping a bit after this email and I don't think I'm thinking that straight.

Obdi --this is a tough one. There is some strange useing/jealously thing that can happen when the spouse of one sex seeks comfort from a friend of the other sex. I'd stay out if it if I were you, honestly.

Or try to have a session with her therapist and see if the professional has any suggesstions.

269 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 7:31:11am

re: #266 Sionainn

Sounds like a good plan, to call the sister and then see what you two can do together.

You don't think that it's a violation of her privacy to tell the sister, not knowing if she knows already? That's the part that has me hesitating there.

270 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 7:31:41am

Indonesia arrests 11 over planned US embassy attack

Indonesian police have arrested 11 suspected terrorists who they say were planning attacks on the US embassy and an American consulate.

A police spokesman says the group was planning to attack a building near the Australian embassy.
...
Police say the suspected terrorists belonged to a new network known as Hasmi.

Explosive materials were also secured from a location in Solo, central Java, and in Bogor on the outskirts of Jakarta.

"The group's objectives were to attack the US embassy in Jakarta and consulate-general in the eastern Javanese city of Surabaya," national police spokesman Suhardi Alius told reporters.

271 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 7:31:53am

re: #268 Gretchen G.Tiger

Obdi --this is a tough one. There is some strange useing/jealously thing that can happen when the spouse of one sex seeks comfort from a friend of the other sex. I'd stay out if it if I were you, honestly.

Or try to have a session with her therapist and see if the professional has any suggesstions.

Sorry, I said husband when I just meant boyfriend. Rattled.

272 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 7:32:25am

Good morning lizards!

273 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 7:33:04am

re: #240 wheat-dogg

Ginger ale and soda crackers was my mom's recommended diet for flu sufferers. The ginger, I learned much later, helps settle upset stomachs.

GATORADE

274 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 7:34:06am

re: #271 Obdicut

Sorry, I said husband when I just meant boyfriend. Rattled.

same difference.

Honestly, you could be the one getting the beating if you get involved --from her.

as I said, strange things happen in these situations.

275 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 7:35:54am

re: #274 Gretchen G.Tiger

She's an old, old friend, and I don't think I can just ignore that she told me this. I'll consider the ramifications, but I don't think complete inaction is open to me. On the other hand, she didn't ask for anything, so maybe I am white-knighting. Fuck.

276 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 7:36:57am

re: #173 freetoken

Good ol' Marco may not have known himself.

See, that's the thing about our society, expertise is hard to come by and even harder to judge by those without training in the field in question.

And the last person I ever trust is a salesman. It's not that every salesperson is actually trying to take their customer for a ride. But, and I learned this over the years from having several friends in the auto sales business - salesmen have to believe in their product to be really good at the job. And that often means they themselves can be duped, because needing to believe something is such a human trait but one which has no guarantee of truth.

Please don't paint all salesmen with the same brush. Car sales is vile game. My BIL a life-long successful salesmen, quit a job as a car salesman. He couldn't sell cars to people who couldn't afford them. He thought the whole set-up was evil.

277 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 7:37:43am

re: #270 Killgore Trout

Indonesia arrests 11 over planned US embassy attack

It's getting very dangerous all over the place. That shithead Zawahri is calling for kidnappings. It's just a matter of time before some supporters take him up on it.

Al-Qaeda's Zawahri calls for kidnap of westerners

Al Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahri has called on Muslims to kidnap Westerners, join Syria's rebellion and to ensure Egypt implements sharia, SITE Monitoring reported on Saturday, citing a two-part film posted on Islamist websites.

The Egypt-born cleric, who became al Qaeda leader last year after the death of Osama bin Laden, spoke in a message that lasted more than two hours.

"We are seeking, by the help of Allah, to capture others and to incite Muslims to capture the citizens of the countries that are fighting Muslims in order to release our captives," he said, praising the kidnapping of Warren Weinstein, a 71-year-old American aid worker in Pakistan last year.

278 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 7:38:43am

re: #170 freetoken

Anyway, one thing about jewelry is that it is a very clear statement about adorning oneself.

I bring it up in part because I think we as a society are still pretty skittish about our economy, and over the recent months while I'm out milling about I'm trying to be more aware of how people are acting around me. Lots of people appear to be pressured, under duress.

This is the thing about which if Romney was an approachable, warm, "in-touch" type of guy he could have successfully honed in on. From his statements I get the impression that analysts are telling him to focus on the frustration of the American people, but frankly he just can't connect with the 99% of us who aren't in the top 1%.

I think the percentages are higher than that. I think Mitt can't connect with about 98.8% Percent of us who actually need a paycheck. He's not one of the 1%, he's part of the .02%.

279 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 7:41:18am

Beware of Zionist cows!

Panicking cow kills man

Gaza City, Gaza Strip - A Gaza health official says a panicking cow killed a Palestinian man who was trying slaughter the beast during the Muslim celebration of Eid ul-Adha.

280 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 7:42:37am

re: #277 NJDhockeyfan

It's getting very dangerous all over the place. That shithead Zawahri is calling for kidnappings. It's just a matter of time before some supporters take him up on it.

Al-Qaeda's Zawahri calls for kidnap of westerners

Al Qaeda not happy with Egypt either, I guess that probably explains this story from yesterday.
Cairo’s ‘terrorist cell’ planned to assassinate political figures: report

281 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 7:46:59am

re: #275 Obdicut

She's an old, old friend, and I don't think I can just ignore that she told me this. I'll consider the ramifications, but I don't think complete inaction is open to me. On the other hand, she didn't ask for anything, so maybe I am white-knighting. Fuck.

If she's in a shelter right now its appropriate to tell her sister. I definitely think you should not go at this alone.

282 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 7:47:31am

re: #279 NJDhockeyfan

Beware of Zionist cows!

Panicking cow kills man

What a nasty joke.

283 Decatur Deb  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 7:53:52am

re: #275 Obdicut

She's an old, old friend, and I don't think I can just ignore that she told me this. I'll consider the ramifications, but I don't think complete inaction is open to me. On the other hand, she didn't ask for anything, so maybe I am white-knighting. Fuck.

You can't know enough to do direct involvement without the good chance of making things worse. To satisfy the need to act make a donation to the shelter, in her name if possible.

284 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 7:55:28am

re: #280 Killgore Trout

Al Qaeda not happy with Egypt either, I guess that probably explains this story from yesterday.
Cairo’s ‘terrorist cell’ planned to assassinate political figures: report

What issues does al-Qaeda have with the Egyptian politicians? I thought they were focused on attacking the West.

285 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 7:59:33am

re: #283 Decatur Deb

You can't know enough to do direct involvement without the good chance of making things worse. To satisfy the need to act make a donation to the shelter, in her name if possible.

Man, situations like this just feel like no matter what I do it's got such a huge potential for disaster.

286 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 8:00:43am

re: #284 NJDhockeyfan

What issues does al-Qaeda have with the Egyptian politicians? I thought they were focused on attacking the West.

Al-Qaeda's Zawahri calls for kidnap of westerners

Al Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahri has called on Muslims to kidnap Westerners, join Syria's rebellion and to ensure Egypt implements sharia, SITE Monitoring reported on Saturday, citing a two-part film posted on Islamist websites.
...
n his new message, he called on Muslims to ensure Egypt's revolution continued until sharia law was implemented and urged fellow Muslims to join the uprising against President Bashar al-Assad in Syria.
...
Zawahri, who led the Egyptian Islamic Jihad movement before joining al Qaeda, called on President Mohamed Mursi, the country's new Islamist leader, to explain his policies on Israel, Egyptian Christians and sharia law.

Islamist militants want Egypt to introduce sharia and to tear up a 1979 peace treaty with Israel and were dismayed when Mursi said he would appoint a Coptic Christian vice president.

"The battle in Egypt is very clear. It is a battle between the secular minority that is allied with the church and that is leaning on the support of the army, who are made up by (former President Hosni) Mubarak and the Americans ... and the Muslim ummah (nation) in Egypt that is seeking to implement sharia," he said.

287 Sionainn  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 8:05:52am

re: #269 Obdicut

You don't think that it's a violation of her privacy to tell the sister, not knowing if she knows already? That's the part that has me hesitating there.

I don't know...that's a tough one. I'm sure her sister knows that she's bipolar. Maybe the sister knows how to reach the therapist/psychiatrist. It's not something you should handle alone.

288 darthstar  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 8:05:52am

Mornin' everyone...we panicking about brown people again?

289 darthstar  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 8:09:45am
290 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 8:10:17am

re: #288 darthstar

Mornin' everyone...we panicking about brown people again?

Just terrorists, that's all.

291 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 8:10:21am

re: #287 Sionainn

I don't know...that's a tough one. I'm sure her sister knows that she's bipolar. Maybe the sister knows how to reach the therapist/psychiatrist. It's not something you should handle alone.

Her sister would have more legal right to act on her behalf than a friend or boyfriend. Getting the family involved is a good first step, IMHO. If not the family then a legal advocate or other professional. The shelter she is in probably has good support systems in place as well.

292 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 8:14:57am

re: #109 ninja cat

re-posting from previous thread

So I want to take time out of my schedule to thank you for supporting my right to control a woman’s life, not just when I’m raping her, but for all the rest of her life as well. A Fan Letter to Certain Conservative Politicians

EXCELLENT!

Scalzi is one of my favs!

293 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 8:15:02am

re: #169 darthstar

And I'd like to be given $20,000 tax-free, without having to do anything illegal. Neither of those two things are going to happen, though.

294 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 8:15:58am

re: #293 Dark_Falcon

And I'd like to be given $20,000 tax-free, without having to do anything illegal. Neither of those two things are going to happen, though.

That's easy, just deposit your money off-short and wait for the interest to build.

295 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 8:17:26am

re: #279 NJDhockeyfan

Beware of Zionist cows!

Panicking cow kills man

Mess with the cow and you get the horns.

Some say the word there should be "bull", but if you've met some of the mothers we have on this site, you would know not to mess with them either. LGF women are fierce.

296 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 8:19:06am

re: #265 Obdicut

Your instincts are good, especially if she has a decent relationship with her sister.

Side note: whether the beating was a real thing or not, she's likely to end up back with the boyfriend, which is not the end of the world and don't blame yourself if that's the result. If it was real, she may need a few attempts before she makes a break.

297 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 8:20:47am

re: #295 Dark_Falcon

Mess with the cow and you get the horns.

Some say the word there should be "bull", but if you've met some of the mothers we have on this site, you would know not to mess with them either. LGF women are fierce.

Fierce is a good word.

298 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 8:21:27am

re: #296 wrenchwench

Your instincts are good, especially if she has a decent relationship with her sister.

Side note: whether the beating was a real thing or not, she's likely to end up back with the boyfriend, which is not the end of the world and don't blame yourself if that's the result. If it was real, she may need a few attempts before she makes a break.

Exactly, then Obdi will be the bad guy for getting involved.

These situations produce strange outcomes.

299 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 8:22:06am

bbl

300 darthstar  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 8:26:39am

re: #293 Dark_Falcon

And I'd like to be given $20,000 tax-free, without having to do anything illegal. Neither of those two things are going to happen, though.

You can get more than that...just get a job as a 'defense contractor' for Blackwater/Xe/Whatever the fuck they're called now. We (taxpayers) were paying them over 30K/month during the Iraq thing....tax free. And it was totally legal.

301 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 8:27:43am

I just finished filling up my pitchers and thermoses with ice water. I have over forty AA batteries. I will be charging up my cell phone when the battery dies. I think I am almost ready for this storm. I hope the darned storm goes out to sea and sputters out.

302 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 8:28:07am

re: #298 Gretchen G.Tiger

Exactly, then Obdi will be the bad guy for getting involved.

These situations produce strange outcomes.

There's nothing for it. It's not the kind of situation to be ignored. If effective action means being label 'the bad guy' for a time, then it does. A man must do his duty for his family, even if that duty does not always make him liked.

303 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 8:30:55am

re: #301 PhillyPretzel

I just finished filling up my pitchers and thermoses with ice water. I have over forty AA batteries. I will be charging up my cell phone when the battery dies. I think I am almost ready for this storm. I hope the darned storm goes out to sea and sputters out.

Good luck. It's not aimed directly where I am but they expect lots of rain and wind. I hope we don't lose power. It's supposed to get cold and having no heat with two kids is not acceptable.

304 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 8:35:34am

re: #303 NJDhockeyfan

I am in NE Philly. I have been through wind and rain before and I had a few repairs to my house. A down spout needed to be fixed. I am not looking forward to this *&^% storm.

305 Targetpractice  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 8:38:13am

re: #301 PhillyPretzel

I just finished filling up my pitchers and thermoses with ice water. I have over forty AA batteries. I will be charging up my cell phone when the battery dies. I think I am almost ready for this storm. I hope the darned storm goes out to sea and sputters out.

Neither am I. Latest track at 11pm EST put us back in the cone of uncertainty. Not really expecting to get hit at this point, but I'm not stupid enough to think it can't happen.

306 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 8:39:32am

re: #305 Targetpractice

Prepare for the worst and hope best. :)

307 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 8:42:33am

I'm supposed to be working. You guys have a great weekend and be safe!

308 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 8:58:13am

re: #302 Dark_Falcon

There's nothing for it. It's not the kind of situation to be ignored. If effective action means being label 'the bad guy' for a time, then it does. A man must do his duty for his family, even if that duty does not always make him liked.

I wasn't thinking so much about whether he'll end up the bad guy (which I think is avoidable, but I'd save the email). I've heard that there's a lot of burnout among shelter volunteers when they see clients returning to the situation from which they came. I think it's good for people to try to help others when they can. I also think it's good for people to be realistic about the chances that they can 'fix' a situation, or a person, or whatever.

Also, I'm kind of leery of what some family members see as their 'duty'. A couple of my sisters thought it was their 'duty' at one time to tell me I was making a mistake in a situation they knew nothing about. Their opinion was based on their prejudices.

309 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 9:06:15am

re: #308 wrenchwench

I wasn't thinking so much about whether he'll end up the bad guy (which I think is avoidable, but I'd save the email). I've heard that there's a lot of burnout among shelter volunteers when they see clients returning to the situation from which they came. I think it's good for people to try to help others when they can. I also think it's good for people to be realistic about the chances that they can 'fix' a situation, or a person, or whatever.

Also, I'm kind of leery of what some family members see as their 'duty'. A couple of my sisters thought it was their 'duty' at one time to tell me I was making a mistake in a situation they knew nothing about. Their opinion was based on their prejudices.

It's OK to be leery of such matters, but the idea of family members duty to each other is important and is a major cornerstone of morality and society. If prejudice flaws it, then the solution is to eliminate the prejudice to repair the stone.

310 RadicalModerate  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 9:08:27am

This is the idiocy that we have to put up with on a daily basis in Texas.

Former Republican official: ‘You can’t be a Christian if you don’t own a gun’

Speaking to the “Deliver Us From Evil” conference at the Upper Room Church in Keller, Texas earlier this week, Dr. Gary Cass explained that America had a “broken moral compass” because it regularly elected “politicians who could justify killing babies made in the image of God” and “justify redefining God’s institution of marriage.”

“We tolerate judges who allow for pornography and blasphemy, yet won’t allow us to have prayer or Bible reading in our schools,” he ranted. “Our formerly great Christian universities have become perverted factories of unfaithfulness.”

Cass blasted “progressive Christians” for abandoning “God’s word for Marxist liberation theology and in doing so have murdered their own souls.”

“By the way, I’ve got a whole sermon, you can’t be a Christian if you don’t own a gun,” he added. “That preaches in Texas, don’t it?”

311 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 9:13:23am

re: #310 RadicalModerate

This is the idiocy that we have to put up with on a daily basis in Texas.

Former Republican official: ‘You can’t be a Christian if you don’t own a gun’

Everything is bigger in Texas, including the Stupid.

312 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 9:15:20am

re: #309 Dark_Falcon

This is a friend, not family.

Anyway, I've decided since she didn't ask for help, and since her email to me was lucid enough, I'm not going to assume she's manic. I'm going to email her back and let her know if she wants to talk, meet, or anything else, I'm here, but otherwise let her plot her own course.

And since I don't really know her current standing with her sister, I'm not going to inform the sister, either. Privacy and all that.

If she wants help, she'll ask for it.

313 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 9:16:35am

re: #309 Dark_Falcon

It's OK to be leery of such matters, but the idea of family members duty to each other is important and is a major cornerstone of morality and society. If prejudice flaws it, then the solution is to eliminate the prejudice to repair the stone.

I think the idea of responsibility for one's fellow human is a good one, but 'duty to family' has also given us things like arranged marriage, honor killings, and restrictive divorce laws.

Oh, wait. Maybe it's patriarchy that's the problem.

314 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 9:17:26am

re: #312 Obdicut

This is a friend, not family.

Anyway, I've decided since she didn't ask for help, and since her email to me was lucid enough, I'm not going to assume she's manic. I'm going to email her back and let her know if she wants to talk, meet, or anything else, I'm here, but otherwise let her plot her own course.

And since I don't really know her current standing with her sister, I'm not going to inform the sister, either. Privacy and all that.

If she wants help, she'll ask for it.

& go from there.

315 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 9:19:18am

re: #312 Obdicut

This is a friend, not family.

Anyway, I've decided since she didn't ask for help, and since her email to me was lucid enough, I'm not going to assume she's manic. I'm going to email her back and let her know if she wants to talk, meet, or anything else, I'm here, but otherwise let her plot her own course.

And since I don't really know her current standing with her sister, I'm not going to inform the sister, either. Privacy and all that.

If she wants help, she'll ask for it.

You know the situation best, Obdi. I don't doubt for a minute you'll do the right thing however you see it. You're a good man and that lady is lucky to have you for a friend.

316 Big Joe  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 9:25:58am

More voter fraud found.

Big Mitt Romney Supporter Caught In Voter Fraud?

The singer Meat Loaf, who last night endorsed Mitt Romney at a raucous rally in Ohio, is not registered to vote in his home state of Texas, and this week sought a mail ballot from a Los Angeles home that he sold 17 months ago, records show.

The performer, a Texas native, earlier this year moved to Austin, where he purchased a $1.475 million home in March (the deed to the 1.1 acre property is in the name of the Abercrombie Lane Trust). In mid-June, Aday kicked off his 2012 concert tour in the state capitol, where the Austin American-Statesman referred to him as a “new Austinite.”

But Aday never got around to registering to vote in Texas, according to Travis County voter registration records and representatives with the county’s voter registrar. To be eligible to cast a ballot on November 6, Texas residents had to register to vote by October 9.

317 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 9:28:20am

re: #316 Big Joe

More voter fraud found.

Big Mitt Romney Supporter Caught In Voter Fraud?

haha, what an idjit.

318 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 9:29:22am

re: #317 Page 3 in the Binder of Women

haha, what an idjit.

Idiot maybe, but he did not act with fraudulent intent.

319 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 9:31:07am

re: #318 Dark_Falcon

Idiot maybe, but he did not act with fraudulent intent.

He may or may not have. If he sold the home 17 months ago, it'd be a bit weird for him not to realize he couldn't vote there anymore.

However, his rambling, addled statement may mean he's so out of it and unaware that he really can't put 2 and 2 together-- which would raise the question of why Romney thinks this nutball's support reflects well on him.

320 Decatur Deb  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 9:32:43am

re: #318 Dark_Falcon

Idiot maybe, but he did not act with fraudulent intent.

I'd like to see a court decide that.

(Really liked Bat out of Hell. Damn.)

321 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 9:34:43am

re: #319 Obdicut

He may or may not have. If he sold the home 17 months ago, it'd be a bit weird for him not to realize he couldn't vote there anymore.

However, his rambling, addled statement may mean he's so out of it and unaware that he really can't put 2 and 2 together-- which would raise the question of why Romney thinks this nutball's support reflects well on him.

He might have relied on some underling to do the work for him. I don't know enough to speculate, but I don't think he was trying to do anything more than cast his ballot. As he's a US citizen and not a felon, that isn't inherently problematic. He does need to follow the rules, however.

322 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 9:36:31am

re: #320 Decatur Deb

I'd like to see a court decide that.

(Really liked Bat out of Hell. Damn.)

It won't go to any court. he's still got enough money to hire a good lawyer, making it unlikely any district or state's attorney would waste the time and money to go after him.

323 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 9:38:40am

re: #321 Dark_Falcon

He might have relied on some underling to do the work for him.

Which would be illegal. And seriously, voter registration takes like five minutes.

I don't know enough to speculate, but I don't think he was trying to do anything more than cast his ballot. As he's a US citizen and not a felon, that isn't inherently problematic. He does need to follow the rules, however.

If he knew he wasn't a California resident and requested a ballot, then he was trying to vote for candidates he had no legal right to vote for. It's not just about being a US citizen, it's about being a resident of a state.

324 Decatur Deb  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 9:39:12am

re: #322 Dark_Falcon

It won't go to any court. he's still got enough money to hire a good lawyer, making it unlikely any district or state's attorney would waste the time and money to go after him.

After we get Obama re-elected, I'll need a new hobby. Think I'll start working towards a serious federal investigation of TPGOP voting abuses.

325 makeitstop  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 9:39:14am

re: #320 Decatur Deb

(Really liked Bat out of Hell. Damn.)

The guy who never gets sufficient credit for that album is Todd Rundgren.

He produced and arranged it, assembled the band, played guitar on it, and got a label to put the record out after every major label had turned it down. And he pretty much financed the entire project.

If not for TR, we'd never have even heard Bat Out Of Hell. The album wore out its welcome with me years ago, but it's still a hell of a record.

326 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 9:40:05am

re: #322 Dark_Falcon

It won't go to any court. he's still got enough money to hire a good lawyer, making it unlikely any district or state's attorney would waste the time and money to go after him.

So in other words, IOKIYAAR?

327 Decatur Deb  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 9:40:22am

re: #325 makeitstop

The guy who never gets sufficient credit for that album is Todd Rundgren.

He produced and arranged it, assembled the band, played guitar on it, and got a label to put the record out after every major label had turned it down. And he pretty much financed the entire project.

If not for TR, we'd never have even heard Bat Out Of Hell. The album wore out its welcome with me years ago, but it's still a hell of a record.

Some kid took mine when he left home. Kids moving out is like having your will executed early.

328 Mocking Jay  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 9:41:37am

Republican Party Rape Advisory Chart

Image: gop_rape_advisory_megachart.gif

329 Big Joe  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 9:43:44am

Let me balance my last post with this, uh, story.


Is voter fraud being committed in Ohio?

Two volunteer poll workers at an Ohio voting station told Human Events that they observed van loads of Ohio residents born in Somalia — the state is home to the second-largest Somali population in the United States — being driven to the voting station and guided by Democratic interpreters on the voting process. No Republican interpreters were present, according to these volunteers.

A source, who wishes to remain anonymous, is a volunteer outside the Morse Road polling center. She has witnessed Somalis who cannot speak English come to the polling center. They are brought in groups, by van or bus. The Democrats hand them a slate card and say, “vote Brown all the way down.” Given that Sherrod Brown is the incumbent Democrat Senator in Ohio, one can assume that this is the reference.

Non-English speaking voters may use an interpreter. The interpreters are permitted by law to interpret for the individual voting; however, they are forbidden from influencing their vote in any way. Another source who also wishes to remain anonymous has seen Democrat interpreters show the non-English speaking Somalis how to vote the Democrat slate that they were handed outside. According to this second source, there are not any Republican Somali interpreters available.

The logical follow-up question is whether a non-English speaking person is an American citizen. ...

330 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 9:47:24am

re: #326 William Barnett-Lewis

So in other words, IOKIYAAR?

IOKIYAAR = " It's OK If You Are A Republican"

No, if you were relatively poor and Republican you might be in trouble. If you were a rich Democrat, you almost certainly wouldn't be. It's about the money and what it can buy.

331 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 9:47:42am

re: #318 Dark_Falcon

Heh.
I'd like to remind the smoking gun of a point I have seen often in this argument-
"'Just because you have registration fraud is no reason the think you have fraudulent votes!!"

Just kidding around folks.

332 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 9:49:09am

re: #329 Big Joe

So this 'source' speaks Somali?

And the story is weird:

Essentially, a person is asked to check a box stating that they are a citizen, and the poll worker is to trust that they are the person who is listed on the item being shown or the information being written. In other words, someone can be an illegal resident of the state of Ohio and the United States, get an apartment, turn on the heat, bring in the Columbia Gas bill, register to vote by the deadline, and vote by showing that same bill. There is then no verification that this individual is a citizen of the United States.

How does this person actually register to vote? They kind of skip over that bit.

333 Decatur Deb  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 9:52:14am

re: #332 Obdicut

So this 'source' speaks Somali?

And the story is wrong:

How does this person actually register to vote? They kind of skip over that bit.

It's also quite easy to be a non-English speaking American. There are third-generation Americans in places like Wantage NY who speak Polish as their family language. Any 18-yr old 'anchor baby' could qualify.

334 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 9:55:21am

re: #310 RadicalModerate

This is the idiocy that we have to put up with on a daily basis in Texas.

‘You can’t be a Christian if you don’t own a gun’

That sounds like the title/refrain of a country western song.

Ohh you can't be a Christian if you don't own a gun,
The Godless heathen liberals are comin for ya son.
Its time to shoot some Democrats and end all of their fun,
No you can't be a Christian....unless you own a gun!

/

335 Decatur Deb  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 9:56:09am

re: #334 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You

That sounds like the title/refrain of a country western song.

Ohh you can't be a Christian if you don't own a gun,
The Godless heathen liberals are comin for ya son.
Its time to shoot some Democrats and end all of their fun,
No you can't be a Christian....unless you own a gun!

/

WWJS?

336 makeitstop  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 9:59:18am

re: #335JS?

Jesus, or Johnny?

337 alpuz  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 10:00:17am

re: #329 Big Joe

The local tea baggers tried to run this story up the flagpole only it was 'college students' who were being dropped off by the bus loads instead of Somalis. It was bullshit. I know the bullshitter personally.

338 Big Joe  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 10:01:09am

re: #310 RadicalModerate

This is the idiocy that we have to put up with on a daily basis in Texas.

Former Republican official: ‘You can’t be a Christian if you don’t own a gun’

WWRJD - what would Rambo Jesus do?

339 makeitstop  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 10:01:31am

re: #336 makeitstop

Jesus, or Johnny?

(Edited to add - I butchered this reply so thoroughly, I couldn't even figure out how to edit it!)

340 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 10:02:40am

re: #337 alpuz

The local tea baggers tried to run this story up the flagpole only it was 'college students' who were being dropped off by the bus loads instead of Somalis. It was bullshit. I know the bullshitter personally.

Did you use proper grammar when you called him a dishonorable, dishonest asshole? Because he should called that, but proper grammar remains important.

/joke, but not likely funny.

341 alpuz  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 10:04:34am

re: #340 Dark_Falcon

Nope.

342 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 10:06:07am

re: #338 Big Joe

WWRJD - what would Rambo Jesus do?

You called?...

GOP Jesus

343 Mich-again  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 10:06:36am

re: #337 alpuz

The local tea baggers tried to run this story up the flagpole only it was 'college students' who were being dropped off by the bus loads instead of Somalis. It was bullshit. I know the bullshitter personally.

And after Obama wins the election, this bullshit anecdote will live on forever in the wingnut fever swamps.

344 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 10:14:35am
345 Decatur Deb  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 10:14:55am

re: #337 alpuz

The local tea baggers tried to run this story up the flagpole only it was 'college students' who were being dropped off by the bus loads instead of Somalis. It was bullshit. I know the bullshitter personally.

Tomorrow and next week I'll be dropping off van-loads of un-real* voters at Florida early-voting polls.

*as defined by Gov Palin and the TPGOP

346 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 10:17:19am

re: #345 Decatur Deb

Tomorrow and next week I'll be dropping off van-loads of un-real* voters at Florida early-voting polls.

*as defined by Gov Palin and the TPGOP

"unreal" how? I'd bet that Sen. Rubio would be far less willing to call them that compared to Sarah Palin. But unlike the former governor of Alaska, Marco Rubio is actually a smart person.

347 A Mom Anon  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 10:18:38am

re: #329 Big Joe

Oh lord,it's Human Events,that's your problem right there. This same story gets trotted out when times are desperate for teaparty evangelical types. All that changes is the bussed in group,it's been college students,brown skinnned minorities and union thugs and who knows who else. They're just planting seeds they hope will sprout later.

348 The Ghost of a Flea  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 10:22:54am

So the "Somalis" don't speak English, there's no Republicans around that speak Somali, and yet the anonymous source fully comprehends that the "Somalis" are being told to vote a certain way (because they're being instructed in that single instance in English for some reason)?

That shit ain't internally consistent.

349 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 10:30:33am

re: #332 Obdicut

So this 'source' speaks Somali?

And the story is weird:

How does this person actually register to vote? They kind of skip over that bit.

Doesn't look like a difficult process in Ohio

There's an online form that asks name, address and last 4 of an SS #

[Link: www.sos.state.oh.us...]

350 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 10:35:18am

re: #349 sattv4u2

Doesn't look like a difficult process in Ohio

There's an online form that asks name, address and last 4 of an SS #

[Link: www.sos.state.oh.us...]

Yeah. So, last 4 digits of a SS #. So, again, how would the non-citizen register to vote?

351 Big Joe  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 10:38:37am

re: #350 Obdicut

Yeah. So, last 4 digits of a SS #. So, again, how would the non-citizen register to vote?

They do give SSNs to legal Resident Aliens.

352 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 10:40:29am

re: #351 Big Joe

They do give SSNs to legal Resident Aliens.

Right, but then you can check that against the name, and see that they're not a citizen-- so they don't get on the rolls.

It would require the coincidence of two people, one a citizen and one not a citizen, both with the same last 4 digits of the SSN, and the citizen not having registered and the non-citizen registering.

353 darthstar  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 10:40:47am
354 Kronocide  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 10:42:28am

re: #352 Obdicut

Right, but then you can check that against the name, and see that they're not a citizen-- so they don't get on the rolls.

It would require the coincidence of two people, one a citizen and one not a citizen, both with the same last 4 digits of the SSN, and the citizen not having registered and the non-citizen registering.

That's exactly how ACORN did it. Brilliant, no?

355 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 10:44:01am

re: #352 Obdicut

but then you can check that against the name, and see that they're not a citizen-- so they don't get on the rolls.

It would require the coincidence of two people

OR ,, the non-citizen with a legit SS # and an overworked, underpaid election official just missing it during cross checking process

356 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 10:44:10am

Just got back from early-voting in Fort Worth, TX. There wasn't a line, but the place was a lot busier than I expected; about the same as election day 2010. The woman-friend in Arlington reported a long line yesterday.

And because some people (not necessarily on LGF) seem to be fascinated by such things: I didn't see any UN monitors with jackboots and sharp Hugo Boss uniforms, eyeing people suspiciously and making checkmarks on clipboards. I also didn't see any young black men wearing berets and sunglasses, polishing brass knuckles and glaring at Whitey. I did see a lot of old folks. They didn't seem too threatening. I was careful to keep my eye on one woman with a walker, though. I probably could have taken her had the shit hit the fan, but I didn't turn my back to her, just the same.

357 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 10:46:30am

re: #354 Kronocide

That's exactly how ACORN did it. Brilliant, no?

Er, you're joking, right?

358 Decatur Deb  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 10:46:37am

re: #356 Our Precious Bodily Fluids

Just got back from early-voting in Fort Worth, TX. There wasn't a line, but the place was a lot busier than I expected; about the same as election day 2010. The woman-friend in Arlington reported a long line yesterday.

And because some people (not necessarily on LGF) seem to be fascinated by such things: I didn't see any UN monitors with jackboots and sharp Hugo Boss uniforms, eyeing people suspiciously and making checkmarks on clipboards. I also didn't see any young black men wearing berets and sunglasses, polishing brass knuckles and glaring at Whitey. I did see a lot of old folks. They didn't seem too threatening. I was careful to keep my eye on one woman with a walker, though. I probably could have taken her had the shit hit the fan, but I didn't turn my back to her, just the same.

You'll never see the old coot that takes you out.

359 Kronocide  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 10:46:46am

re: #355 sattv4u2


but then you can check that against the name, and see that they're not a citizen-- so they don't get on the rolls.

It would require the coincidence of two people

OR ,, the non-citizen with a legit SS # and an overworked, underpaid election official just missing it during cross checking process

And this has happened how often?

360 Kronocide  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 10:47:20am

re: #357 Obdicut

Er, you're joking, right?

LOL. Sorry for lack of sarc tag. I'm way joking.

361 darthstar  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 10:47:24am

Okay...off to get some bayonets...or go swimming...or something. Enjoy your day.

362 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 10:47:26am

re: #355 sattv4u2


OR ,, the non-citizen with a legit SS # and an overworked, underpaid election official just missing it during cross checking process

Fairly sure that's an automated process, dude. And anyway, that would still be a vanishingly rare occurrence, and so has nothing to do with the story as reported, right?

363 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 10:49:01am

re: #359 Kronocide

And this has happened how often?

Probably never

Just showing it's possible

Humans make mistakes. Other humans have always and will always try to capitalize on others mistakes

364 DisturbedEma  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 10:49:04am

re: #361 darthstar

Do both, in reverse order to avoid rusting of weaponry:)

365 gwangung  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 10:49:39am

re: #355 sattv4u2


but then you can check that against the name, and see that they're not a citizen-- so they don't get on the rolls.

It would require the coincidence of two people

OR ,, the non-citizen with a legit SS # and an overworked, underpaid election official just missing it during cross checking process

At the REGISTRATION level?

Don't think so.

366 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 10:50:37am

re: #365 gwangung

At the REGISTRATION level?

Don't think so.

Did you see the reg form I linked in 349? It's not exactly complex!

367 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 10:51:03am

re: #363 sattv4u2

Probably never

Just showing it's possible

Humans make mistakes. Other humans have always and will always try to capitalize on others mistakes

And Human Events capitalizes on misplaced fears and outrages.

368 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 10:51:36am

re: #367 wrenchwench

And Human Events capitalizes on misplaced fears and outrages.

That they do

369 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 10:52:12am

re: #366 sattv4u2

Did you see the reg form I linked in 349? It's not exactly complex!

The form does not say what kind of verification process the clerk's office uses.

370 recusancy  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 10:52:23am

I wish the right cared about the very real threat of climate change the way they do the virtually non existant threat of voter fraud.

371 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 10:53:14am
372 makeitstop  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 10:54:40am

re: #355 sattv4u2


but then you can check that against the name, and see that they're not a citizen-- so they don't get on the rolls.

It would require the coincidence of two people

OR ,, the non-citizen with a legit SS # and an overworked, underpaid election official just missing it during cross checking process

And I'm sure that happens enough times to swing a presidential election.
//

373 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 10:56:14am

re: #372 makeitstop

And I'm sure that happens enough times to swing a presidential election.
//

Where did I say it did,, or say it even happens?

374 Kronocide  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 10:58:22am

re: #373 sattv4u2

Where did I say it did,, or say it even happens?

I give you a 10 SII punch card. You can use a Sarcastic Implied Inference ten times, just as makeitstop did.

Don't use them all at once.

375 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:01:09am

re: #371 Page 3 in the Binder of Women

lol

376 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:01:18am

Pumpkin Thieves Beware, The Trap Is Set

Last year, a Portland couple grew a small pumpkin patch on the sliver of land between their sidewalk and the road.

It was the talk of the neighborhood and they promised local kids they could each have a pumpkin at Halloween.
But a few days beforehand, every single pumpkin was stolen.

Kristian Foden-Vencil reports on the unique solutions some are finding to address theft in the garden patch.

377 efuseakay  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:01:21am

re: #353 darthstar

No wonder he's staying away from the media. He knows every word out of his mouth is total bullshit and can't stand to ever be corrected.

378 makeitstop  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:01:41am

re: #373 sattv4u2

Where did I say it did,, or say it even happens?

Just snarking here.

Possible? Yeah. Probable? Nah.

379 blueraven  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:01:44am

re: #327 Decatur Deb

Some kid took mine when he left home. Kids moving out is like having your will executed early.

Ha...aint it the truth. Daughter took old Panasonic turntable from the late 70s, most of our albums (borrowed of course) and a Sansui receiver from the same era.
All together worth a small fortune...but they are getting good use so what the hey.

380 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:03:13am

Voter fraud is another one of the many issues that nobody really gives a shit about. Just another thing to bitch about only when the other side does it.

381 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:03:35am

re: #374 Kronocide

I give you a 10 SII punch card. You can use a Sarcastic Implied Inference ten times, just as makeitstop did.

Don't use them all at once.

I saw his sarc tags

I was emphasizing my point

I see your 10 SII punch card and raise you 15 USP points

(Understand Someones Position)

382 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:06:14am

re: #371 Page 3 in the Binder of Women

383 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:06:52am

Frightening injury to South Carolina's running back, Marcus Lattimore

384 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:07:01am

re: #380 Killgore Trout

I give a shit about it, whoever does it.

385 efuseakay  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:07:22am

re: #329 Big Joe

Let me balance my last post with this, uh, story.


Is voter fraud being committed in Ohio?

lol So these "Somalis" don't speak English, but they were being told in English to "vote brown all the way down". Got it!

386 Kronocide  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:07:41am

re: #380 Killgore Trout

Voter fraud is another one of the many issues that nobody really gives a shit about. Just another thing to bitch about only when the other side does it.

Or another thing to bitch about even when the other side isn't doing it.

387 makeitstop  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:08:05am

re: #382 Dark_Falcon

A cartoon version of The Big Lie. The truth: Obama was on the attack, Romney was well-behaved, and Schiffer did his job.

Downding for oblique Godwin.

388 recusancy  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:08:10am

re: #382 Dark_Falcon

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Umm.. I don't think you get it. That's a cartoon of Romney stealing Obama's answers. Not attacking.

389 Big Joe  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:08:46am

re: #385 efuseakay

lol So these "Somalis" don't speak English, but they were being told in English to "vote brown all the way down". Got it!

I didn't know Brown was running for every office on the ballot, heh.

390 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:08:53am

re: #382 Dark_Falcon

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HAHAHA. Romney copied Obama, plain and simple.

He lied to you before, or during that debate.

391 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:09:31am

re: #383 sattv4u2

Frightening injury to South Carolina's running back, Marcus Lattimore

I'm still freaking out. So sad.

392 makeitstop  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:09:33am

re: #390 Page 3 in the Binder of Women

HAHAHA. Romney copied Obama, plain and simple.

He lied to you before, or during that debate.

And after. Dude just can't help himself.

393 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:09:42am

re: #387 makeitstop

Downding for oblique Godwin.

Saying "The Big Lie" is not a Godwin's Law violation.

394 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:10:12am

re: #391 Page 3 in the Binder of Women

I'm still freaking out. So sad.

What happened?

395 efuseakay  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:10:28am

re: #380 Killgore Trout

Voter fraud is another one of the many issues that nobody really gives a shit about. Just another thing to bitch about only when the other side does it.

Like voter rolls being tossed into a dumpster by a Reublican, and a Republican official refusing to prosecute? Nah. That never happens.

396 Big Joe  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:10:51am

re: #393 Dark_Falcon

Saying "The Big Lie" is not a Godwin's Law violation.

No, not at all

397 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:11:06am

re: #394 Dark_Falcon

What happened?

His leg came off at the knee, basically. (I'm exaggerating)

Both teams all went to him on the field, which was good SEC solidarity, but it was a gruesome injury.

398 makeitstop  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:11:06am

re: #393 Dark_Falcon

Saying "The Big Lie" is not a Godwin's Law violation.

Au contraire

399 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:11:43am

re: #391 Page 3 in the Binder of Women

I'm still freaking out. So sad.

Unreal that i'm hoping that it's a broken leg and not a shattered knee

400 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:12:31am

re: #380 Killgore Trout

Voter fraud is another one of the many issues that nobody really gives a shit about. Just another thing to bitch about only when the other side does it.

Voter fraud in the in-person format is astonishingly rare. At the larger levels, it tends to get detected. We have a very good system, and we should be proud and happy about that.

If Democrats were engaging in voter fraud, it'd make me much less likely to support them.

Have you ever actually asked yourself why you feel this knee-jerk need to be contrarian, regardless of actual facts? I'm seriously asking. It's become an obsessive monomania with you.

401 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:13:33am

re: #397 Page 3 in the Binder of Women

His leg came off at the knee, basically.

Both teams all went to him on the field, which was good SEC solidarity, but it was a gruesome injury.

Ugh. I hope he recovers as fully as possible.

402 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:20:47am

re: #401 Dark_Falcon

Ugh. That's hideous. Hopefully it can be reconnected. Good chance actually, since great advances have been made in reconnecting damaged limbs. I hope he recovers as fully as possible.

I edited my post. I'M EXAGGERATING.

403 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:22:39am

re: #402 Page 3 in the Binder of Women

I edited my post. I'M EXAGGERATING.

re: #402 Page 3 in the Binder of Women

I edited my post. I'M EXAGGERATING.

I edited my post to match. [nods politely]

404 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:26:27am

re: #403 Dark_Falcon

re: #402 Page 3 in the Binder of Women

I edited my post to match. [nods politely]

ha, I typed it and realized I could have single handily started a horrible rumor.


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