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Here’s an open thread as I fix some of the little issues that have popped up in the new LGF Pages, and tweak some more features. A new feature: if you click the day portion of the date (e.g. “Oct 27, 2012”) in the article’s subheading, it takes you to the daily archive index, both for LGF Pages and front page articles. And the daily Pages archives now have a navigation panel to let you step forward and back through the days of our lives.

In the meantime, here are a few good sites at which you can obsessively monitor the aggregated polling data. If these projections are accurate we’re going to have a very close popular election, but something like an electoral landslide for Obama.

Obama vs. Romney Electoral Map
ElectoralVote
Nate Silver - FiveThirtyEight Blog

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179 comments

1 Targetpractice  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 3:54:09pm

Where's RCP? Or ElectionProjection? Or Unskewed?!

2 nemus  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 3:58:10pm

I, for one, only trust polling aggregate data from 'thin, effeminate sounding' men, but I guess my standards are pretty high :P

3 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:00:02pm

re: #2 nemus

I, for one, only trust polling aggregate data from 'thin, effeminate sounding' men, but I guess my standards are pretty high :P

You think that fat macho dudes can't crunch numbers?

4 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:00:17pm

Evening Lizardim. What's cookin'?

5 aagcobb  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:01:04pm

Nate Silver's Blog has an article noting that it would be unprecedented for a candidate to blow a 2-3 lead in a state as richly polled as Ohio with only 10 days to go. Which means Romney is screwed, because he literally cannot win without carrying Ohio, barring a miracle.

6 nemus  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:02:53pm

re: #3 SanFranciscoZionist

You think that fat macho dudes can't crunch numbers?

Well, to be honest, I'm a fat, macho dude and I crunch numbers rather well. Then again, I'm also a poker junkie not to even mention my fascination with quantum physics and theoretical physics in general.. I just don't proclaim expertise in an area I don't have a clue about due to its political expedience. :P

7 Mich-again  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:05:06pm

What a great lineup on TV tonight. Are you kidding me?

Tigers vs Giants, Game 3
Michigan vs Nebraska
Notre Dame vs Oklahoma
Alabama vs Mississippi State

8 The Mountain That Blogs  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:09:42pm

re: #1 Targetpractice

This is Unskewed's map. Seriously.

9 engineer cat  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:09:48pm

let us eat the bread of uncertainty within the spread of the margarine of error

10 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:11:38pm

re: #8 The Mountain That Blogs

This is Unskewed's map. Seriously.

One of my Indian cow-orkers forwarded me a map that had Obama winning Alaska. And ONLY Alaska. Seriously.

11 nemus  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:14:28pm

re: #8 The Mountain That Blogs

This is Unskewed's map. Seriously.

I know, its so cute to see physical examples of crazy person thinking. Its like a study in denial psychology and I, for one, kind of feed off of it. I'm a political junkie, so this month long period or so before a Presidential election is kind of my long, drawn out Superbowl party - and just like those events... there are always a fair share of drunken idiots who are making ridiculous prognostications that have, cumulatively, maybe a .03% chance of coming true. They also tend to be the people who trip and fall into the glasstop table causing severe lacerations, but I digress..

12 aagcobb  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:15:58pm

re: #8 The Mountain That Blogs

This is Unskewed's map. Seriously.

Oh yeah, it will be fun watching the wingnut reaction when Romney's landslide victory turns into bitter defeat.

13 GeneJockey  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:20:22pm

re: #5 aagcobb

It's even worse for Romney than that.

On Lawrence O'Donnell the other day, he played a clip of Laura Ingraham on Bill O'Reilly, where she said, "If the election were held today, Obama would probably win." As someone pointed out, the election IS being held today.

Early voting in Ohio has been going on since October 2nd, and the longer it goes on with no change in the polls the farther toward Romney the polls would have to swing in the remaining days to change the outcome.

14 GeneJockey  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:20:50pm

re: #9 engineer cat

Butter you than me.

15 engineer cat  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:21:05pm

if we do the total rassmussen on the electoral college, he gives a peculiar result where it just happens that the only three states with an absolute tie are ohio, iowa, and wisconsin

16 Mich-again  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:21:55pm

If Hurricane Sandy turns out to be as bad as predicted, there will be major power outages that could last more than just a few days, and possibly even disrupt election day plans for polling places. It could turn out to be a clusterf*ck. Oh the conspiracies..

17 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:22:23pm

re: #16 Mich-again

If Hurricane Sandy turns out to be as bad as predicted, there will be major power outages that could last more than just a few days, and possibly even disrupt election day plans for polling places. It could turn out to be a clusterf*ck. Oh the conspiracies..

Behold, the power of HAARP./

18 Targetpractice  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:24:30pm

re: #13 GeneJockey

It's even worse for Romney than that.

On Lawrence O'Donnell the other day, he played a clip of Laura Ingraham on Bill O'Reilly, where she said, "If the election were held today, Obama would probably win." As someone pointed out, the election IS being held today.

Early voting in Ohio has been going on since October 2nd, and the longer it goes on with no change in the polls the farther toward Romney the polls would have to swing in the remaining days to change the outcome.

And the polls taking such a swing is highly unlikely in light of the historically low number of undecided voters this election. Even if one believes that Willard will take 90% of the undecideds, an historically unlikely result, he still likely won't be able to shift polls enough to take the states that really matter.

19 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:24:43pm

re: #9 engineer cat

let us eat the bread of uncertainty within the spread of the margarine of error

Face it. Romney's toast.

20 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:26:39pm

re: #5 aagcobb

Nate Silver's Blog has an article noting that it would be unprecedented for a candidate to blow a 2-3 lead in a state as richly polled as Ohio with only 10 days to go. Which means Romney is screwed, because he literally cannot win without carrying Ohio, barring a miracle.

From your keyboard to Gods' monitor brother.

21 The Mountain That Blogs  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:30:58pm

re: #5 aagcobb

Well, this would be his miracle. I don't see this happening, but it doesn't require Romney to win guaranteed blue states.

22 Cheechako  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:31:03pm

re: #10 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too

One of my Indian cow-orkers forwarded me a map that had Obama winning Alaska. And ONLY Alaska. Seriously.

ROFLOL Not possible.

23 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:31:29pm

re: #22 Cheechako

ROFLOL Not possible.

No, not even close. He thought he was being funny and/or clever. Needless to say, we're glad he can't vote. ;)

24 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:34:26pm

Who thinks Sandy will still be a Tropical Cyclone at landfall?

25 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:35:11pm

re: #21 The Mountain That Blogs

Well, this would be his miracle. I don't see this happening, but it doesn't require Romney to win guaranteed blue states.

Interesting that even he gives Ohio to Obama.

26 JamesWI  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:36:18pm

Headline: "Obama clings to slim lead in Virginia." Something tells me if it was a four-point lead for Romney, that headline would sound just a little different....

27 Targetpractice  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:37:17pm

re: #26 JamesWI

[Embedded content]

Headline: "Obama clings to slim lead in Virginia." Something tells me if it was a four-point lead for Romney, that headline would sound just a little different....

"Romney takes commanding lead in Virginia."

28 nemus  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:38:50pm

re: #25 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

Interesting that even he gives Ohio to Obama.

Its pretty much the only feasible way he can win with Ohio going to Obama. The issue with that map though is Romney's people have been discussing that they feel Nevada is a lost cause, I believe? Not to mention it looks like Obama's got a pretty fair shot of scoring Iowa / New Hampshire.

I realize I'm optimistic here, but I'm kind of still thinking Obama ekes out a win down here in Florida. We've got a 500k+ tilt over the Republicans in new voter registrations and the early voting enthusiasm has seemed pretty crazy today from what I've observed.

29 The Mountain That Blogs  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:39:57pm

re: #25 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

"He" the unskewed guy? No way--that map is in my #8. It's hilarious.

30 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:40:37pm

re: #13 GeneJockey

Welcome Hatchling (ww?)

31 Targetpractice  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:41:25pm

re: #21 The Mountain That Blogs

Well, this would be his miracle. I don't see this happening, but it doesn't require Romney to win guaranteed blue states.

No projection I've seen so far sees Nevada as being a potential Romney pick-up. Colorado and New Hampshire, maybe, but Nevada was written off months ago.

32 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:41:28pm

re: #13 GeneJockey

You too! Welcome new hatchlings. We really love the new flavor.

33 aagcobb  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:42:01pm

re: #21 The Mountain That Blogs

Well, this would be his miracle. I don't see this happening, but it doesn't require Romney to win guaranteed blue states.

Romney hasn't led in a poll in Nevada since April.

34 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:43:04pm

re: #32 Page 3 in the Binder of Women

You too! Welcome new hatchlings. We really love the new flavor.

Tender young lizard. Tastes like chicken.

35 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:43:12pm

re: #13 GeneJockey

Welcome Aboard.

Let's a get a Geographic Roll-Call here. Where is everybody living right now.

I would gladly exchange places with CL right now. Sandy is a fascinating creature.

36 nemus  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:43:55pm

re: #35 ProGunLiberal

Welcome Aboard.

Let's a get a Geographic Roll-Call here. Where is everybody living right now.

I would gladly exchange places with CL right now. Sandy is a fascinating creature.

I'm in Southern Florida.. AKA God's Waiting Room.

37 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:44:15pm

If the Dropsondes are to be believed, Sandy's pressure is beginning to drop again.

38 aagcobb  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:44:46pm

re: #35 ProGunLiberal

Welcome Aboard.

Let's a get a Geographic Roll-Call here. Where is everybody living right now.

I would gladly exchange places with CL right now. Sandy is a fascinating creature.

Kentucky

39 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:44:49pm

re: #35 ProGunLiberal

Welcome Aboard.

Let's a get a Geographic Roll-Call here. Where is everybody living right now.

I would gladly exchange places with CL right now. Sandy is a fascinating creature.

I'm in the Upper East side of Manhattan, watching Sandy slowly grind closer to me. Also, there's a storm on the way.

40 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:45:10pm

re: #37 ProGunLiberal

Latest on Sandy. [Link: www.nhc.noaa.gov...]

41 JamesWI  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:45:47pm

Man, that "horses and bayonets" line really upset the Navy crowd in Virginia, just like Romney's campaign said it would! Only a four point lead!/

42 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:45:50pm

re: #35 ProGunLiberal

Welcome Aboard.

Let's a get a Geographic Roll-Call here. Where is everybody living right now.

I would gladly exchange places with CL right now. Sandy is a fascinating creature.

Minnesnowta here. The first snow of the season did not stick here at the fish household, although other areas around the metro got as much as 5 inches.

43 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:46:01pm

re: #35 ProGunLiberal

Welcome Aboard.

Let's a get a Geographic Roll-Call here. Where is everybody living right now.

I would gladly exchange places with CL right now. Sandy is a fascinating creature.

Southern Cal. We had a big fire/wind warning this weekend. So far a dud. pray to dog.

next?

44 The Mountain That Blogs  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:46:33pm

re: #31 Targetpractice

re: #33 aagcobb

Hey, I didn't say it was likely. That map is still Romney's only hope if he loses Ohio. Which is really not much of a hope at all.

45 aagcobb  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:46:44pm

re: #28 nemus

Its pretty much the only feasible way he can win with Ohio going to Obama. The issue with that map though is Romney's people have been discussing that they feel Nevada is a lost cause, I believe? Not to mention it looks like Obama's got a pretty fair shot of scoring Iowa / New Hampshire.

I realize I'm optimistic here, but I'm kind of still thinking Obama ekes out a win down here in Florida. We've got a 500k+ tilt over the Republicans in new voter registrations and the early voting enthusiasm has seemed pretty crazy today from what I've observed.

Its within the realm of possibility, though Romney is a slight favorite. Obviously an Obama win in Florida turns the election into an electoral landslide.

46 Targetpractice  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:46:46pm

re: #35 ProGunLiberal

Welcome Aboard.

Let's a get a Geographic Roll-Call here. Where is everybody living right now.

I would gladly exchange places with CL right now. Sandy is a fascinating creature.

VA Beach here. Quietly waiting for Sandy to make up her damn mind. Just like a woman...

//

47 engineer cat  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:47:52pm

re: #35 ProGunLiberal

Welcome Aboard.

Let's a get a Geographic Roll-Call here. Where is everybody living right now.

I would gladly exchange places with CL right now. Sandy is a fascinating creature.

no. cal in the bear flag republic

48 researchok  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:48:29pm

Raleigh, NC, home real BBQ

49 GeneJockey  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:48:45pm

re: #35 ProGunLiberal

Welcome Aboard.

Let's a get a Geographic Roll-Call here. Where is everybody living right now.

I would gladly exchange places with CL right now. Sandy is a fascinating creature.

Thanks!

I'm in California, specifically the SF Peninsula.

50 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:48:46pm

I thought with my screen name it would be obvious. /

51 aagcobb  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:48:47pm

re: #44 The Mountain That Blogs

re: #33 aagcobb

Hey, I didn't say it was likely. That map is still Romney's only hope if he loses Ohio. Which is really not much of a hope at all.

52 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:48:54pm

re: #39 Obdicut

Can I switch with you? You live with my parents for a week, and I get to see a truly fascinating storm.

54 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:50:13pm

Apparently, Bloomberg is being an idiot during his news conference.

What powers does New York City's City Council have?

55 The Mountain That Blogs  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:50:21pm

re: #35 ProGunLiberal

Manhattan, and waiting for a couple of gross days.

56 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:50:28pm

re: #50 PhillyPretzel

I thought with my screen name it would be obvious. /

ya, we are not waiting for your answer. bummer!

57 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:50:47pm

re: #30 Page 3 in the Binder of Women

Welcome Hatchling (ww?)

:p

58 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:52:03pm

re: #57 wrenchwench

knew it. take it as an admiration, not a jumping in!!! lol

59 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:52:32pm

re: #36 nemus

I'm in Southern Florida.. AKA God's Waiting Room.

Tampa Bay area...AKA God's Pauperized Waiting Room

60 GeneJockey  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:53:10pm

re: #57 wrenchwench

:p

Apparently my previous appearance left little impression.

61 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:53:19pm

re: #46 Targetpractice

Or switch places with you?

62 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:54:46pm

Seriously, I want to see this storm so dang much.

63 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:55:36pm

re: #58 Page 3 in the Binder of Women

knew it. take it as an admiration, not a jumping in!!! lol

No hatchling ever minded being welcomed twice.

64 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:55:37pm

re: #62 ProGunLiberal

Watch the Weather Channel.

65 ninja cat  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:55:51pm

re: #35 ProGunLiberal

Central FL, West coast. Mucho viento here today and a "cold" front coming in. High's in the low 70's on the way and I'm breaking out the winter gear.

66 nines09  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:56:47pm

Central Pennsyltucky by shimmering water where you can make Amish nervous with a camera. Sandy will be here.

67 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:56:49pm

re: #64 PhillyPretzel

Closer than that.

Yes, I have a reduced sense of Self-Preservation, why do you ask.

68 Targetpractice  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:56:51pm

re: #61 ProGunLiberal

Or switch places with you?

Nothing really to see here. Right now, best projections is that she's gonna pass by us, with the most we're gonna see is a shitload of rain and some wind gusts up to 'round 50mph.

In other words, no worse than any other Nor'easter.

69 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:57:32pm

re: #68 Targetpractice

Why I would love to switch places with CL.

I want to see this up close and personal.

70 Cheechako  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:57:42pm

In the rainforest in SE Alaska. Except we've had sunshine every day this week with temps in the high 20's.

71 Targetpractice  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:59:34pm

re: #69 ProGunLiberal

Why I would love to switch places with CL.

I want to see this up close and personal.

Done that enough times for my own tastes, and the the strongest I've sat through was Cat 2. As of right now, Sandy's barely a Cat 1. Lot of wind, lot of rain, but nothing to get overly excited about. Irene was a bigger headache.

72 nines09  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:59:37pm

re: #69 ProGunLiberal

Why I would love to switch places with CL.

I want to see this up close and personal.

If you were ever in a flood you would not want to again.

73 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:00:20pm

re: #72 nines09

Being in a Hurricane is on my bucket list.

So is seeing a tornado.

74 dragonath  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:00:57pm
75 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:01:29pm

re: #45 aagcobb

Its within the realm of possibility, though Romney is a slight favorite. Obviously an Obama win in Florida turns the election into an electoral landslide.

Still not seeing it here, I hope I'm wrong but Romney sure seems more popular with all the old folks in my area. Fear mongering, rumor mongering, and a heap of slanderous wingnut conspiracy theories have these people scared of Obama, it is worse than it was in 2008. You would think that after none of the doomsday predictions they made about Obama last election turned out to be true that they wouldn't pay so much attention this time. Unfortunately you would be wrong, a steady diet of Fox propaganda has worked wonders on turning these people paranoid. :(

76 GeneJockey  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:01:42pm

re: #69 ProLifeLiberal

Why I would love to switch places with CL.

I want to see this up close and personal.

I once worked with a Hoosier Postdoc whose response to a tsunami warning was to say, "Hey, let's go to Ocean Beach!" Hoosiers don't understand oceans.

77 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:02:04pm

re: #74 dragonath

Now I am going to need some brain bleach after seeing that image.

78 CuriousLurker  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:02:10pm

re: #69 ProGunLiberal

Why I would love to switch places with CL.

I want to see this up close and personal.

[Lurch voice] You rang?

The super told me earlier it's supposed to hit us Tuesday (North Jersey, Newark area).

79 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:02:48pm

re: #73 ProGunLiberal

Try looking some storm chasers in your area. They may be able to help you.

80 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:02:51pm

re: #78 CuriousLurker

What do you think the chances are I could get a plane ticket tomorrow? :P

81 CuriousLurker  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:03:44pm

re: #80 ProGunLiberal

You're insane! Slim to none, I reckon.

82 philosophus invidius  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:03:54pm

One of the interesting things on 538 today is that the historical data suggests that a state poll-average lead of less that 1.5% at this point is pretty meaningless (leading to an actual win in only 43% of cases), but that a poll-average lead of above 2% is a pretty robust predictor of the winner.

That means Obama is very likely to win Ohio (not to mention NV, IA, NH & WI) and that he has about an equal chance of winning Florida (not to mention CO and VA) too.

It is weird that Romney seems to be ahead in the national polling, but the RCP poll-average of 1% seems be meaningless if the state-by-state polling history is any indication.

Let's just hope that voter suppression and long lines in Ohio aren't enough to get Romney the extra few votes he needs.

83 nines09  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:04:09pm

re: #74 dragonath

Image: tumblr_m2e05vv7WX1rtg65wo1_500.jpg

Mitt must have seen this.

84 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:04:28pm

re: #79 PhillyPretzel

Planning on that for next spring, for the tornadoes. Everything goes to plan, I am back in Oklahoma by then.

85 bkool  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:04:39pm

re: #35 ProGunLiberal

North side of Chicago here, near Wrigley. It's been amazing to see some friends who I had thought were progressives go off the deep end with the birther BS, etc. I don't mind a rational discussion with a conservative, but I've had about 2 this whole year.

86 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:05:35pm

re: #81 CuriousLurker

Yes I am. Why do you ask?

I do want to see a Hurricane personally before I die.

Hopefully not the cause.

87 JamesWI  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:06:57pm

Des Moines Register endorses Romney....shocker.

And they just ensured that no Democratic politician will trust them with anything, after their hissy fit over the off-the-record interview request.....that they accepted.

88 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:08:02pm

re: #74 dragonath

Image: tumblr_m2e05vv7WX1rtg65wo1_500.jpg

Mountain Mitt?

89 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:08:40pm

Grizzly Mittens?

90 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:09:21pm

re: #72 nines09

If you were ever in a flood you would not want to again.

Been there, done that in 2010, never want to do it again after floodwater got into our old house, rendering it structurally unsound and unsafe.

Hey, at least we got a newer, nicer house out of it...

91 nines09  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:10:07pm

re: #73 ProGunLiberal

Being in a Hurricane is on my bucket list.

So is seeing a tornado.

Having a tornado bearing down on you as the sky goes dark and the hail lands like fingers from hell and the wind screams like a train and your vehicle is shaking like there's an earthquake and it's only getting louder and now pieces of trees and siding are going by like tumbleweeds and the roof of the house behind you just went by and now it's really hailing and blowing and even louder than you though loud could be and all you got in your hands is a steering wheel, and you might just shit your pants as another small tree goes by like a tumbleweed....There. It's like that.

92 CuriousLurker  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:10:47pm

re: #89 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You

Grizzly Mittens?

He & Caribou Barbie would make a great couple what with their allergy to telling the truth and love of making word salads.

93 Sheila Broflovski  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:11:34pm

re: #73 ProGunLiberal

Being in a Hurricane is on my bucket list.

So is seeing a tornado.

What about being in a war? You also wanna be in a war? (It sucks, especially for the losers)

94 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:12:01pm

re: #73 ProGunLiberal

Being in a Hurricane is on my bucket list.

So is seeing a tornado.

Having been in close proximity to a couple of tornadoes over the past 15 years and after helping deal with the aftermath, you don't really want to experience them firsthand, because it gets really messy.

95 aagcobb  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:12:04pm

re: #82 philosophus invidius

Let's just hope that voter suppression and long lines in Ohio aren't enough to get Romney the extra few votes he needs.

Fortunately the GOP scheme to prevent weekend voting was blocked by the courts, which should ameliorate the problem.

96 nines09  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:12:07pm

re: #90 MittDoesNotCompute

Being on the bank of a major river in full flood stage is more feeling than looking. It's a unbelievable powerful force.

97 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:13:20pm

I was in Hurricane Gloria in Connecticut. Not too bad where we lived, but man did it take down a ton of trees. The after part was awesome, all these ripped up trees showing roots and new pools where they had been. For a kid, awesome.

I'm glad my parents are staying in their Boston apartment and not Connecticut for this one, though. There are lots of big trees around the Connecticut house.

98 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:15:11pm

re: #93 Sheila Broflovski

Not the war.

I know I have a weird bucket list.

Back on Sandy. Her pressure is falling again. Now ~955 mbar, if the dropsondes are to be believed.

99 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:15:17pm

re: #19 wrenchwench

Unbuttered & burnt toast!

100 Only The Lurker Knows  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:15:50pm

Evening Lizards.

101 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:17:01pm

re: #96 nines09

Being on the bank of a major river in full flood stage is more feeling than looking. It's a unbelievable powerful force.

I corrected a typo; we got hit in the Great Nashville Flood of 2010, not in anything this year.

And we live a mile or two away from the Cumberland River, well out of the (then) well-known flood zones; what got us was runoff, because our house sits smack dab in the middle of a low spot in what is called a "wet-weather conveyance".

It took almost a year-and-a-half to rebuild, but we did, with a lot of help.

102 nines09  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:17:34pm

re: #98 ProGunLiberal

Flood.

103 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:17:34pm

re: #85 bkool

Welcome, hatchling. You'll get the hang of it.

104 nines09  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:19:35pm

re: #101 MittDoesNotCompute

Dry run. Flood zone. Once every 75 years. I know. At least all is well. I only lost possessions myself. Replaceable.

105 CuriousLurker  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:20:21pm

re: #102 nines09

Flood.

E gad, I can't believe how many people stayed on the bridge to watch. I would NOT have been taking that chance. O_o

106 nines09  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:21:19pm

re: #105 CuriousLurker

E gad, I can't believe how many people stayed in the bridge to watch. I would NOT have been taking that chance. O_o

Cheap thrills. Or beer.

107 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:26:05pm

re: #105 CuriousLurker

Seeing that, I would not do that. You have no idea if one house, or some other object will hit with enough force to bring it down.

108 dragonath  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:26:31pm

re: #105 CuriousLurker

What a bunch of dopes. More than one bridge has been destroyed by a river-borne wooden structure.

109 Gus  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:29:08pm

'Ello. My name is Gus.

110 Only The Lurker Knows  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:30:32pm

re: #35 ProGunLiberal

Twin Falls, Idaho. I think I am the only Idaho Lizard here. Unless of course, "Frodo", a new co-worker that I directed to this place has actually managed to register. Compound Idaho hasn't actually stated were he is located as far as I know.

111 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:30:49pm

re: #109 Gus

'Ello. My name is Gus.

Hi Gus!

Image: VbGjWvkA3kW0QPxJyfRNog2.jpg

112 Targetpractice  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:31:04pm

re: #109 Gus

'Ello. My name is Gus.

*Best AA voice* Hi Gus!

113 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:31:55pm

re: #111 wrenchwench

And that is why I will never get carpeting of the same color as any pet would be.

I have poor depth perception, and may not see it. :(

114 Gus  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:33:14pm

re: #111 wrenchwench

Hi Gus!

Image: VbGjWvkA3kW0QPxJyfRNog2.jpg

Was just smacking some emoprog about on Twitter. Whine fest. Not directly smacking though.

115 Targetpractice  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:34:10pm

re: #114 Gus

Was just smacking some emoprog about on Twitter. Whine fest. Not directly smacking though.

If the nuts on both sides hate your ass, then you must be doing something right.

116 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:34:56pm

re: #114 Gus

Was just smacking some emoprog about on Twitter. Whine fest. Not directly smacking though.

Saw the tweets, just pulled up the article. Any reason I should read it? Seems to put people in a bad mood.

117 Gus  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:35:26pm

re: #116 wrenchwench

Saw the tweets, just pulled up the article. Any reason I should read it? Seems to put people in a bad mood.

Read it? Nah. It's just a lot of flapdoodle. ;)

118 Gus  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:36:02pm

re: #116 wrenchwench

Saw the tweets, just pulled up the article. Any reason I should read it? Seems to put people in a bad mood.

Corporate profits are up and it's Obama's fault!

Derp.

119 R.M, Ramallo  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:36:09pm

re: #35 ProLifeLiberal

Welcome Aboard.

Let's a get a Geographic Roll-Call here. Where is everybody living right now.

I would gladly exchange places with CL right now. Sandy is a fascinating creature.

Northeast Ohio.
Makin' calls. Takin' names.
Fightin' for an Obama win !!!

120 Targetpractice  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:38:18pm

re: #118 Gus

Corporate profits are up and it's Obama's fault!

Derp.

Stock market's up, Obama done totally fraked up.

//

121 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:38:28pm

re: #2 nemus

I, for one, only trust polling aggregate data from 'thin, effeminate sounding' men, but I guess my standards are pretty high :P

So, you are an Anderson Cooper fan?

//

122 dragonath  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:42:41pm

Anderson Cooper is like a bizarro John Stewart.

Image: tumblr_maaub24hdf1qhbw13o1_500.gif

123 Gus  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:44:09pm

Sheesh. The wingnuts must be driving the Des Moines Register endorsement of Romney. Yeah, that's a game changer. Right.

124 CuriousLurker  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:45:13pm

re: #121 Dark_Falcon

So, you are an Anderson Cooper fan?

//

Anderson Cooper effeminate? I always figured he was gay, but there's nothing effeminate about him, IMO. As a matter of fact, he can be pretty twitchy/snarky and strikes me as a guy who wouldn't walk away from a fight.

125 engineer cat  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:45:50pm

re: #114 Gus

Was just smacking some emoprog about on Twitter. Whine fest. Not directly smacking though.

The progressive case against Obama

i had to stop hanging out at a blog because of this kind of crapola

i told them they're carl rove's wet dream

126 dragonath  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:46:48pm

Des Moines, Constantinople of the Midwest....

127 Sheila Broflovski  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:47:41pm

Detroit. where the Giants are fucking shit up.

128 CuriousLurker  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:48:16pm

Okay, feelin' lazy. Gonna go watch videos. Later, lizards.

129 funky chicken  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:51:27pm

re: #28 nemus

NH...really? Romney has a shot at winning NH? Have they gone nuts up there or something?

130 Targetpractice  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:53:38pm

re: #126 dragonath

Des Moines, Constantinople of the Midwest....

Now it's Istanbul, not Constantinople.
/

131 funky chicken  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:54:17pm

re: #118 Gus

Corporate profits are up and it's Obama's fault!

Derp.

US oil production is at an all time high. That's Obama's fault too, apparently.

Why exactly am I supposed to vote for Romney again? So he can outsource our energy production again? Lower corporate profits? Er....um....

132 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:56:13pm

re: #129 funky chicken

NH...really? Romney has a shot at winning NH? Have they gone nuts up there or something?

Mitt used to be governor of Massachusetts, and much of New Hampshire is within the Bay State's media market. Moreover, in the course of his two runs for the GOP nomination Mitt Romney built up quite a campaign network there. That counts for a lot.

133 Kaessa  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:57:15pm

Western Colorado here.

134 Gus  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:01:55pm

Gah. What a stupid endorsement.

135 dragonath  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:05:15pm

The NH state house has been a reliable source of the crazy.

- Guns on College Campuses
- Attempted Gay Marriage Repeal
-"Abortion Causes Breast Cancer" declaration

136 nines09  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:05:18pm

re: #134 Gus

Gah. What a stupid endorsement.

I hope they don't have grocery stores. I wouldn't touch their "Fresh Food".

137 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:06:22pm
Evolution, often perceived as a series of random changes, might in fact be driven by a simple and repeated genetic solution to an environmental pressure that a broad range of species happen to share, according to new research.

[...]

"The power of what we've done is to survey diverse organisms facing a similar problem and find striking evidence for a limited number of possible solutions," he said. "The fact that many of these solutions are used over and over again by completely unrelated species suggests that the evolutionary path is repeatable and predictable."

The paper, "Parallel Molecular Evolution in an Herbivore Community," was published Sept. 28 by Science. The research was supported by grants from the Centre for Genetic Engineering and Biotechnology, the National Science Foundation and the National Institutes of Health.

Republicans want to cut funding to the National Science Foundation. That's another reason not to vote for them.

138 engineer cat  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:06:39pm

re: #134 Gus

Gah. What a stupid endorsement.

Since then, he has recalibrated his campaign to focus on his concern for the middle class, and that is believable if the real Mitt Romney is the one on display as governor of Massachusetts who passed a health care reform plan that became the model for the one passed by Congress.

Romney should not squander an opportunity to build consensus in Washington by wasting time on issues that animate many in his party. We cannot rewind the clock on progress for minorities, women, gays and lesbians. We must make it easier for immigrants to come here to live and work legally and stop making criminals of those who are living here lawfully, paying taxes and raising families. The federal government must continue to insist on clean air and water and encourage clean and renewable energy.

apparently the idea is to elect mitt romney but ask him to act like barack obama

139 Charles Johnson  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:06:39pm

Just realized how much frickin' time I've spent in the past two weeks tweaking and adjusting and debugging and rewriting code for the new servers. You always think it's going to be easy -- just copy the files over and goooo! Wheee!

Then Murphy sends you a candygram.

140 Gus  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:06:40pm

re: #136 nines09

I hope they don't have grocery stores. I wouldn't touch their "Fresh Food".

Who wrote this drivel?

Consumers must feel more confident about their own economic futures to begin spending on the products and services that power the economy. A renewed sense of confidence will spark renewed investment by American companies. Industry will return to full production and hiring will begin again.

That should come with Mitt Romney in the White House.

141 nines09  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:10:21pm

re: #138 engineer cat

"Since then, he has recalibrated his campaign to focus on his concern for the middle class, and that is believable if the real Mitt Romney is the one on display as governor of Massachusetts who passed a health care reform plan that became the model for the one passed by Congress.

Romney should not squander an opportunity to build consensus in Washington by wasting time on issues that animate many in his party. We cannot rewind the clock on progress for minorities, women, gays and lesbians. We must make it easier for immigrants to come here to live and work legally and stop making criminals of those who are living here lawfully, paying taxes and raising families. The federal government must continue to insist on clean air and water and encourage clean and renewable energy."
Of course he left out the fact that Romney would destroy all that.

142 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:11:03pm

re: #140 Gus

Who wrote this drivel?

Someone who has no idea how poorly S&P and the other ratings agencies are going to view increased defense spending combined with further cuts in tax rates.

143 dragonath  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:11:39pm

re: #140 Gus

Romney will be the moist wind to grow our fungus business

The conditions have to be just right

mind where you shine that light

144 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:11:42pm

I visited Lincoln Park Zoo today and made sure to stop by the Ape House to see the baby gorilla, which Charles had posted pics of via Zooborns. I did my best to get a decent photo, but my cell phone's ability is limited, but the baby's head is visible clearly in this photo, as the baby is held by its mother, Bana:

Image: 8129379840_6da2272143_m.jpg

Another photo is here:

Image: 8129354389_f13370c80a_m.jpg

And this last photo is of the baby's father, Kwan. He's LPZ's silverback:

Image: 8129379430_62486f35db_m.jpg

145 The Mountain That Blogs  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:12:05pm

re: #138 engineer cat

Apparently the solution to scorched earth Congressional opposition is to prove to those doing it that it works. Got it.

146 Sheila Broflovski  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:12:33pm

re: #134 Gus

Gah. What a stupid endorsement.

He founded and ran a successful business that turned around failing companies.

WTF

147 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:12:58pm

re: #102 nines09

Flood.

someone's house and belongings.

148 nines09  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:13:04pm

Elect Romney! Ignore the hordes of Barbarians with him! The Clown Car would turn into a Full Blown Clown Train.

149 b_sharp  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:14:14pm

Mare Cimmerium here.

I have a helluva commute for work.

150 Charles Johnson  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:14:17pm

Speaking of bridges and things crashing into them...

151 Gus  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:14:22pm

re: #146 Sheila Broflovski

WTF

It's like a junior high paper.

152 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:14:27pm

re: #139 Charles Johnson

But many Lizards send you hugs, kisses & flies!

153 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:14:58pm

re: #121 Dark_Falcon

So, you are an Anderson Cooper fan?

//

DARK

154 dragonath  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:15:10pm

re: #149 b_sharp

Michelle Bachmann is your neighbor?

155 nines09  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:15:12pm

re: #147 Page 3 in the Binder of Women

Absolutely. That is called totaled. Flood last for months and sometimes years. They are horrible.

156 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:16:00pm
157 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:16:06pm

re: #153 Page 3 in the Binder of Women

DARK

Yes?

158 Targetpractice  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:16:48pm

re: #140 Gus

Who wrote this drivel?

God, how I've grown tired of the argument that a candidate just being elected to the presidency will magically turn around the economy.

159 Gus  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:16:57pm
160 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:18:38pm

re: #150 Charles Johnson

405 southbound in Long Beach had a Caterpillar on a flat bed, that went so far into the bridge, that the steel I beams of the flat bed broke. THey left it in lanes for almost a week, because they were afraid the bridge would collapse if the wreck was removed. VERY rare to see something left like that in lanes in So Cal. It was either at Cherry or Orange Ave. You can still see the damage to the bridge, if you look!

161 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:19:52pm

Okay, how do I save a gif in motion, then port it over here. I have a graphic or three.

Also, Sandy seems to be rebuilding.

162 dragonath  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:20:54pm
163 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:21:13pm

re: #150 Charles Johnson

Speaking of bridges and things crashing into them...

[Embedded content]

Ya know, a few signs miles ahead saying most of you trucks won't make it would save a ton of $.

164 nines09  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:21:31pm

re: #139 Charles Johnson

Code is your.......friend. Thanks for all the hard work. Grazie!

165 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:21:49pm

re: #163 Page 3 in the Binder of Women

In all seriousness, probably millions of dollars.

166 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:22:13pm

re: #156 wrenchwench

Image: kmbTm-Uq60yzYN_6IMx5SA2.jpg

Later, lizards.

Love, just LOVE WW's good byes.

167 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:23:29pm

re: #166 Page 3 in the Binder of Women

And her hello's too!
*waves*

168 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:24:59pm

re: #161 ProGunLiberal

Help on this?

Also, my dad is acting like a dipstick over the Michigan game.

169 b_sharp  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:25:40pm

re: #154 dragonath

Michelle Bachmann is your neighbor?

The 'boys' and I use her cave for target practice.

170 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:25:57pm

re: #167 Dancing along the light of day

And her hello's too!
*waves*

Hey babe! My Gators lost today. I have to counteract the alcohol intake with a major food response. whoo here I go in the kitch. (turkey sandwich, no heat)

171 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:27:12pm

re: #114 Gus

Was just smacking some emoprog about on Twitter. Whine fest. Not directly smacking though.

Interesting article and not all that off base, although not for the reasons the author thinks.

So why oppose Obama? Simply, it is the shape of the society Obama is crafting that I oppose, and I intend to hold him responsible, such as I can, for his actions in creating it.

The bitching about TARP, bailouts, corporate profits, the evils of capitalism and comparisons to the Bush regime are all apt but the author is approaching the questions/problems from the wrong angle. Instead of trying to understand the economic, social and political reality he's bitching that his dream society isn't being constructed. He never bothers to ask himself why that might be. His complaints would be just as valid, and better accepted among his peers, leveled at a Republican president. I do like to watch utopians struggle in hopes a pragmatist is being born.

172 Gus  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:30:12pm
173 Mr. Crankypants  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:31:46pm

re: #146 Sheila Broflovski

WTF

I'm writing from here in Iowa, and I am really disgusted with the Register endorsement. Obviously someone hasn't been paying attention to the campaign or to Rmoney's record.

174 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:34:53pm

re: #139 Charles Johnson

Just realized how much frickin' time I've spent in the past two weeks tweaking and adjusting and debugging and rewriting code for the new servers. You always think it's going to be easy -- just copy the files over and goooo! Wheee!

Then Murphy sends you a candygram.

175 Romantic Heretic  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:37:49pm

re: #35 ProGunLiberal

Welcome Aboard.

Let's a get a Geographic Roll-Call here. Where is everybody living right now.

I would gladly exchange places with CL right now. Sandy is a fascinating creature.

Ontario, Canada.

176 Only The Lurker Knows  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:46:52pm

re: #139 Charles Johnson

Just realized how much frickin' time I've spent in the past two weeks tweaking and adjusting and debugging and rewriting code for the new servers. You always think it's going to be easy -- just copy the files over and goooo! Wheee!

Then Murphy sends you a candygram.

Try working in the Gaming (Casino) Industry.

Networked Games? Type in a group IP an Upload a new game. Send a "Tech" to make sure it went through.

Some times tech sucks.

Live and learn. Adapt or Die

177 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sat, Oct 27, 2012 6:55:36pm

Another Philadelphia resident here.

Just got back from running errands and shopping. Cat food stocks are full, and tomorrow will be cooking stuff like I normally do on Sunday. And I'll fill up some extra water bottles and a cooler full of ice just in case.

I'm in Center City, but power outages are not out of the question.

178 wheat-dogg  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 12:04:22am

Mentioned it before, but in western Hunan, China.

Former place of residence was Kentuckiana. (Floyds Knobs, IN, across the river from Lou-vull, KY).

179 bmiller11757  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 6:13:31am

re: #35 ProGunLiberal

Welcome Aboard.

Let's a get a Geographic Roll-Call here. Where is everybody living right now.

I would gladly exchange places with CL right now. Sandy is a fascinating creature.

Long Island. I hear Jim Cantore is in NYC. We are DOOOOOOOMED


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