As Hurricane Sandy Strikes, Mitt Romney Wants to Drastically Cut Federal Disaster Relief

Romney’s policies are dangerous and short-sighted
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As Hurricane Sandy prepares to slam into the east coast, threatening disastrous flooding for millions of people, we should mention that Republican candidate Mitt Romney wants to drastically cut federal disaster relief programs like FEMA.

And we should also mention that the Republican Party’s 2011 spending bill slashed the budget for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, cutting $700 million intended for an overhaul of America’s aging weather satellite system.

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167 comments
1 Daniel Ballard  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 11:36:48am

Few working satellites, little aid in a disaster. What could possibly go wrong?
That's one way to turn a storm into a disaster of biblical proportion.

2 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 11:37:30am

No NOAA and no PBS. This is getting better and better all the time. Cut after cut and saying I am improving America. //

3 nines09  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 11:39:02am

Empty party, empty suits, empty words.

4 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 11:39:24am

If there's no warning than it's God's will when the hoi polloi get flooded and stormed on.
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5 Someone Please Beam Me Up!  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 11:41:16am

re: #4 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

If there's no warning than it's God's will when the hoi polloi get flooded and stormed on.
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But they'll soon learn that it raineth on the rich and the unrich, likewise smiteth the sun.

6 allegro  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 11:42:36am

The party of greed and willful, depraved ignorance at its finest.

7 lawhawk  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 11:42:51am

One of the reasons that folks like Gov. Christie, Gov. Cuomo and Mayor Bloomberg are even able to indicate flood evacuations and have some insight into where and how to expect damage is due to the scientists at the NOAA and other federally funded labs providing data, analysis, and the equipment that provides storm tracks and forecasts.

Cutting funding to the NOAA would put millions of people at risk from floods and loss of life.

The hydrologists at the NOAA are advising about potential inland flooding - from rivers and streams, as well as urban flooding and storm surge along the coast. Flooding costs the nation billions of dollars annually in damage, so anything that can mitigate those costs is worthwhile.

It allows political leaders to go ahead and issue evacuations to those that need it while not unduly evacuating areas that might not need them - focusing where resources can and should be devoted.

So far:
NYC public schools closed Mon
PATH, MTA, NJ Transit, LIRR, and Metro North all shutdown tomorrow (beginning later this evening).
Evacuations in NYC Zone A.
NJ Gov. Christie is suggesting that local leaders shut schools across NJ (a local decision). I think they'll be heeding that advice.

8 Gus  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 11:43:47am

There is nothing that the free-market can't solve including disaster relief.

9 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 11:44:37am

re: #8 Gus

"Nice levee you got there. Be a shame if anything would happen to it."

10 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 11:45:52am

We need to invest in infrastructure --that would include Satellites --no?

Of course, the GOP thinks it should all be privatized.

11 lawhawk  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 11:47:34am

Flight cancellations:

More than 700 U.S. flights have been canceled for Sunday and 3,700 have been canceled for Monday. That number is expected to rise.

Every airline has issued a flexible travel policy that allows customers to make changes to their reservations with no penalty. Check your individual carrier's homepage for details.

United Airlines, with a hub in Newark, N.J., has been the most aggressive so far in getting ahead of the storm. According to FlightAware, the airline has cancelled more than 300 flights today.

The airline told ABCNews the majority of those flights are scheduled for Sunday evening.

"United is working to operate a normal schedule to the east coast through the late afternoon hours. We have selectively canceled flights beginning this evening through tomorrow to many airports in the northeast and mid-Atlantic states," Rahsaan Johnson, an airline spokesperson, said in an email.

"Travelers who are booked on a flight to or from a city in the storm's path this evening or Monday should assume it is delayed or canceled and should verify flight status at united.com. Customers whose flights are canceled or delayed more than two hours are eligible for a refund."

12 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 11:47:44am

re: #7 lawhawk

One of the reasons that folks like Gov. Christie, Gov. Cuomo and Mayor Bloomberg are even able to indicate flood evacuations and have some insight into where and how to expect damage is due to the scientists at the NOAA and other federally funded labs providing data, analysis, and the equipment that provides storm tracks and forecasts.

Cutting funding to the NOAA would put millions of people at risk from floods and loss of life.

The hydrologists at the NOAA are advising about potential inland flooding - from rivers and streams, as well as urban flooding and storm surge along the coast. Flooding costs the nation billions of dollars annually in damage, so anything that can mitigate those costs is worthwhile.

It allows political leaders to go ahead and issue evacuations to those that need it while not unduly evacuating areas that might not need them - focusing where resources can and should be devoted.

I put this on my facebook, without any reference. I hope you don't mind. I've been on a "Government is Necessary" meme.

13 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 11:48:36am

To everyone who commented on my granddaughter being diagnosed with Down Syndrome, here is a message from my daughter:

The most important thing is to be positive, to realize that Rebecca is perfect as she is and to love and cherish her like every other member of the family. That is the most important. We are not sad or sorry about the way she was born and we hope you won't be either! Feel free to ask any questions you have, we will be happy to answer (to the best of our ability).

Thank you all for your support and encouragement, they are appreciated!

My daughter is a pediatric nurse practitioner from Columbia University, so she has a large support group and many resources.

14 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 11:49:27am

re: #13 Sheila Broflovski

To everyone who commented on my granddaughter being diagnosed with Down Syndrome, here is a message from my daughter:

My daughter is a pediatric nurse practitioner from Columbia University, so she has a large support group and many resources.

(((((Rebecca))))))

15 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 11:49:31am

PEC Update

As of October 28, 12:00PM EDT:
Obama: 299 Romney: 239
Meta-margin: Obama +2.04%
Probability of Obama re-election: Random Drift 89%, Bayesian Prediction 97%

16 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 11:54:47am

Random...

17 Kragar  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 11:56:29am

Getting hit by a hurricane is just another example of God's will. The dirty sinners were just asking for it.

18 Charles Johnson  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 11:58:24am

re: #13 Sheila Broflovski

Very sorry to hear that. But your daughter has a great attitude about it.

19 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 12:02:59pm

re: #13 Sheila Broflovski

To everyone who commented on my granddaughter being diagnosed with Down Syndrome, here is a message from my daughter:

My daughter is a pediatric nurse practitioner from Columbia University, so she has a large support group and many resources.

At the very least, your granddaughter has been born in a time and in a society that no longer shuns families and children who aren't some fictional standard of normal. I can't imagine the challenges that your family will face, yet I can be proud that the taboo is no longer tolerated in most circles.

Rebecca will grow surrounded by family that love her --isn't that the basic thing we want for all our children?

20 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 12:05:09pm

Starting to rain here in Philly.

I'm going to keep an eye on the construction site across the street. Most of it is 4-5' below street level and has no obvious drainage or access to the storm drains at street level. (And these currently are blocked with wire mesh and gravel - I presume to protect against spills or something related to the construction work.)

21 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 12:05:44pm

I forget the name of the TV series that had an actor who had Downs Syndrome. His parents called it Ups rather than Downs.

22 Obdicut  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 12:05:50pm

re: #19 Gretchen G.Tiger

The biggest reason I feel bad for Down Syndrome people is that they so often outlive their parents and loved ones, and are left to the care of people with no direct connection. Some of those people can be wonderful, but it's a draining field, and there's a lot of burnout and a lot of people who just can't provide the love that they need.

Being born into an extended family with very close ties like Alouette's is the best possible fate for a Down Syndrome child.

23 dragonath  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 12:06:28pm

I'm reminded of Dark Falcon talking about his father, who despite voting Republican, "plants trees" and stuff.

I get the feeling that among Romney voters, whatever native common sense they have extends only to their back yards. To vote time and again for scientific ignorance indicates a willful lack of foresight.

24 A Mom Anon  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 12:06:52pm

re: #13 Sheila Broflovski

I'm glad to hear this,sounds like Rebecca has the perfect family for her with alot of wonderful advantages in place. Many blessings to you and your family.

25 Gus  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 12:07:03pm

I'll be Bach.

26 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 12:07:23pm

re: #20 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Very windy and a little rain in NE Philly.

27 Obdicut  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 12:07:41pm

re: #25 Gus

I'll be Bach.

Don't go into Haydn.

28 nines09  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 12:08:10pm

re: #23 dragonath

I'm reminded of Dark Falcon talking about his father, who despite voting Republican, "plants trees" and stuff.

I get the feeling that among Romney voters, whatever native common sense they have extends only to their back yards. To vote time and again for scientific ignorance indicates a willful lack of foresight.

Sort of like a man who makes his living off the water and votes for the people who would pollute it more?

29 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 12:08:27pm

re: #23 dragonath

I'm reminded of Dark Falcon talking about his father, who despite voting Republican, "plants trees" and stuff.

I get the feeling that among Romney voters, whatever native common sense they have extends only to their back yards. To vote time and again for scientific ignorance indicates a willful lack of foresight.

It's the US vs THEM mentality. If nothing else, you'd think the global economy would the meme that helps them to understand that it's all WE now.

Global communication, travel and the state of the Planet may be too obscure for the conservative minded --but the economy!!! That should make it rather clear -no?

30 Targetpractice  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 12:08:54pm

Willard seems to be playing the same song over and over again: "Give It To the States." So what if the states have even tighter budgets than the federal government and exhibit even worse financial sense? If something bad happens, well, the "free market" will be there to help. And if it isn't, oh well.

31 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 12:10:32pm

re: #30 Targetpractice

Willard seems to be playing the same song over and over again: "Give It To the States." So what if the states have even tighter budgets than the federal government and exhibit even worse financial sense? If something bad happens, well, the "free market" will be there to help. And if it isn't, oh well.

I totally understand the need for Federalism and the fear that it is breaking down. B, b,, b, But, But --dude, some aspects of Federalism AREN'T WORKING ANY MORE.

I get the idea that some of the Right Wing Whackos would be happy if each state started coining it's own money again.

32 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 12:11:08pm

bbl

33 lawhawk  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 12:11:18pm

Updated school closures in NYC metro:

School Information updated at 3:05pm on 10/28/2012
Connecticut
Fairfield
Danbury School District CLOSED
New Canaan SD CLOSED
Norwalk SD CLOSED

New Jersey
Bergen
Notre Dame Interparochial Acad CLOSED
Palisades Park CLOSED
Ridgefield Park SD CLOSED
Rochelle Park SD CLOSED
Essex
Bloomfield Twnsp SD CLOSED
Hudson
Harrison SD CLOSED
Hoboken SD CLOSED
Kearny SD CLOSED
Union City SD CLOSED
Hunterdon
Clinton-Glen Gardner SD CLOSED
Hunterdon Co. Ed Svcs CLOSED
Lambertville SD CLOSED
Middlesex
Dunellen SD CLOSED
North Brunswick Twshp SD CLOSED
St. Thomas Apostle School CLOSED
Monmouth
Asbury Park SD CLOSED
Bradley Beach SD CLOSED
Freehold Twnsp SD CLOSED
Hazlet Twnsp SD CLOSED
Marlboro Twnsp SD CLOSED
Millstone Twnsp SD CLOSED
Monmouth Co. VSD CLOSED
Red Bank SD CLOSED
Tinton Falls SD CLOSED
West Long Branch SD CLOSED
Morris
Butler SD CLOSED
Kinnelon Bor. SD CLOSED
Morris Co.VSD CLOSED
Morris SD CLOSED
Mount Arlington SD CLOSED
Randolph Twnsp SD CLOSED
The Calais School CLOSED
Wharton Bor. SD CLOSED
Ocean
Barnegat Twnsp SD CLOSED
Point Pleasant Bor. SD CLOSED
Passaic
Haledon SD OPEN
Passaic Co. Voc HS CLOSED
Somerset
Franklin Twnsp SD CLOSED
Montgomery Twnsp SD CLOSED
Sussex
Hardyston Twnsp SD CLOSED
High Point RSD CLOSED
Sparta Twnsp SD CLOSED
Sussex-Wantage RSD CLOSED
Union
Berkeley Heights SD CLOSED
Hillside Twnsp SD CLOSED
Kenilworth SD CLOSED
Linden SD CLOSED
New Providence SD CLOSED
Scotch Plains-Fanwood SD CLOSED

New York
Dutchess
Dover UFSD CLOSED
Kings
Bay Ridge Preparatory CLOSED
Catherine McAuley HS CLOSED
IMLCS CLOSED
Nassau
Baldwin UFSD CLOSED
East Williston UFSD CLOSED
Farmingdale UFSD CLOSED
Glen Cove City SD CLOSED
Hicksville UFSD CLOSED
Lawrence UFSD CLOSED
Locust Valley CSD CLOSED
Lynbrook UFSD CLOSED
Manhasset UFSD CLOSED
North Merrick UFSD CLOSED
Port Washington UFSD CLOSED
Roosevelt UFSD CLOSED
Roslyn UFSD CLOSED
St. Raymond School E Rockaway CLOSED
Valley Stream CHSD CLOSED
New York
Fashion Inst. of Technology CLOSED
Wood Tobe-Coburn School CLOSED
Queens
Grace Lutheran Day School CLOSED
Notre Dame Catholic Acad CLOSED
St. Francis Preparatory CLOSED
Suffolk
Brookhaven-Comsewogue UFSD CLOSED
Eastport -South Manor CSD CLOSED
Hampton Bays UFSD CLOSED
Lindenhurst UFSD CLOSED
Mattituck-Cutchogue UFSD CLOSED
Northport-East Northport CLOSED
Sag Harbor UFSD CLOSED
Westchester
Bedford CSD CLOSED
Biondi Education Center CLOSED
Byram Hills CSD CLOSED
Edgemont UFSD CLOSED
Hawthorne Country Day School CLOSED
Mamaroneck UFSD CLOSED
Mt. Pleasant-Cottage CLOSED
New Rochelle City SD CLOSED
Rye Neck UFSD CLOSED
The Masters School CLOSED
Tuckahoe UFSD CLOSED
Valhalla UFSD CLOSED
Yonkers City SD CLOSED

34 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 12:11:29pm

re: #24 A Mom Anon

You still looking for SF ideas? See last comment downstairs.

I stayed at Galleria Park Hotel Close to the Financial District, old, remodeled and really great. And walking distance to a great group of restaraunts Belden Place - called the French Qtr of SF

I wanna go baaaaaaack.

35 Iwouldprefernotto  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 12:14:59pm

To be fair to Romney, he does want a larger navy and the oceans are getting larger...

36 dragonath  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 12:18:54pm

re: #29 Gretchen G.Tiger

I think there's a very real strain of jealousy and discontent out there. There are families (for example) who see strangers and immigrants get much farther than they and their children because they have come to the country better educated, or people who got farther than they did by virtue of being born rich.

Voting Republican is to be expecting altruism from big business, appeased by tax cuts and less regulation. "Sloppy seconds" for the middle class.

37 Targetpractice  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 12:19:24pm

re: #31 Gretchen G.Tiger

I totally understand the need for Federalism and the fear that it is breaking down. B, b,, b, But, But --dude, some aspects of Federalism AREN'T WORKING ANY MORE.

I get the idea that some of the Right Wing Whackos would be happy if each state started coining it's own money again.

It's not a fear of federalism breaking down that motivates such attitudes. Rather, it's just simple greed and indifference. Their attitude is summed up by four words: "It's not my problem." If the folks in the next state over get body-slammed by a major hurricane and can't afford the clean-up, "it's not my problem." If the neighboring state is in need of a cash infusion to stay solvent, "it's not my problem." But when it's "my problem," then suddenly the demands go out for help because "This is America, we help each other!"

38 Obdicut  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 12:21:05pm

re: #36 dragonath

It is so freaking weird that people who sneer at the idea of a beneficent government somehow believe in beneficent corporations.

39 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 12:25:24pm

Most of what the Federal Government does is stuff that needs to be done. And in a nation of 300 million people, that's a lot. It is the price we pay for living in a modern first world nation. That's the reality and those who want to "slash" government are living in a fantasy world. If you want small government, move to a third world nation. There are plenty of places with very little government action and intervention in which people are for the most part left to their own devices. People don't pay taxes and get virtually no government services. I say we send all of the small government conservatives there so the rest of us can have nice things.

40 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 12:25:49pm

(alarm warble -meow)
The Feline Overlord has declared a Categorey 1 bacon alert. This developing system of smoked pork deliciousness is expected to move from the oven to the counter shortly. The track after that point is unclear, but a portion is expected to divert to the food dish... or else.
(/alarm-warble - meow)

41 Obdicut  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 12:26:53pm

SomethingAwful profiles a racist website that typifies a large part of the problem in US society that y'all were discussing above.


Angry White Dude

Basically, it's a place for white males to complain about how their losing their privilege, except they don't really see it that way. They're totally not racist, though, and in fact, it turns out that a lot of black people are racist. Like Colin Powell:

The non-news story of yesterday was Colin Powell endorsed Barack Obama. Again. Yaaawwwnnn! His endorsement leaves only three possibilities. 1. Powell was a chameleon con-man for his entire career. 2. He’s a racist. Or 3. He’s an idiot. There’s more than a pretty good chance he’s all three!

What a bunch of fucking crybabies. Man up and compete with the immigrants, fuckheads, they're the real Americans. That's what this country was made on, not fatasses whining about how they get passed over at work just because of that whole 'confederate flag cake' incident.

42 dragonath  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 12:27:23pm

re: #38 Obdicut

Yeah, and Romney is the standard bearer for that kind of thinking. He is the American Aristocracy, who are themselves the greatest enemies of the free market.

It's been interesting seeing Conservative thinking turn into something that might have been seen in 19th century Britain.

43 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 12:28:40pm

re: #41 Obdicut

SomethingAwful profiles a racist website that typifies a large part of the problem in US society that y'all were discussing above.

Angry White Dude

Basically, it's a place for white males to complain about how their losing their privilege, except they don't really see it that way. They're totally not racist, though, and in fact, it turns out that a lot of black people are racist. Like Colin Powell:

What a bunch of fucking crybabies. Man up and compete with the immigrants, fuckheads, they're the real Americans. That's what this country was made on, not fatasses whining about how they get passed over at work just because of that whole 'confederate flag cake' incident.

These people are the GOP's base.

44 dragonath  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 12:32:24pm

"Angry White Dude" is, at heart, "GET OFF MY LAWN!"

Okay, you misshapen pile of dimly sentient atoms

45 William of Orange  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 12:32:53pm

Video

The origin of Dubstep.

46 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 12:35:15pm

re: #42 dragonath

Yeah, and Romney is the standard bearer for that kind of thinking. He is the American Aristocracy, who are themselves the greatest enemies of the free market.

It's been interesting seeing Conservative thinking turn into something that might have been seen in 19th century Britain.

I've been watching Downton Abbey (very addictive) and one of the things that I find the most fascinating is the extent to which the servants identify with the people they work for. I guess house slave mentality happens everywhere with all people.

Anyway the GOP is the modern party of the aristocracy and their base is comprised of their house servants who see their fate as being directly tied to what happens to their masters. They believe the social order is as it should be and that their masters actually care about them and will take care of them. The GOP is basically the top 1% and the people who install their cable.

47 William of Orange  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 12:37:25pm

375.000 New Yorkers to be moved out of harm's way! As of 7 PM local time all subway, bus- and train traffic will stop!!

48 dragonath  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 12:43:07pm

re: #46 moderatelyradicalliberal

I guess this is why I couldn't really get into "A Game of Thrones". It seemed like a story about a bunch of entitled assholes infighting crossed with gossipy court intrigue.

I might be persuaded to pick up another one of those books if Daenery's dragons end up eating everybody or something.

Anyway, your description fits the definition of the guy working in a shitty job who is anti-union. I swear, you can appease people with a free turkey at Thanksgiving over a real wage increase.

49 makeitstop  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 12:45:07pm

Well, here's a frihgtening thought.

I'm chatting with a friend on Facebook - who, as it happens, wrote LIPA's emergency preparedness plan back in 2000. She says if the storm gets bad enough, LIPA has been ordered to take down the entire grid.

She is taking this storm very seriously, so I am too.

50 MittDoesNotCompute  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 12:45:13pm

re: #41 Obdicut

SomethingAwful profiles a racist website that typifies a large part of the problem in US society that y'all were discussing above.

Angry White Dude

Basically, it's a place for white males to complain about how their losing their privilege, except they don't really see it that way. They're totally not racist, though, and in fact, it turns out that a lot of black people are racist. Like Colin Powell:

What a bunch of fucking crybabies. Man up and compete with the immigrants, fuckheads, they're the real Americans. That's what this country was made on, not fatasses whining about how they get passed over at work just because of that whole 'confederate flag cake' incident.

Make a note of AWD's logo; I somehow seriously doubt that John Goodman (and the Coen brothers) would care for his likeness from The Big Lebowski being used by this bunch of shitbags.

I'd love it if Goodman and the Coens (a bunch of white guys) told this bunch of "angry white dudes" to cease and desist or they'll see them in court for infringing on Goodman's likeness and the Coens' copyrights.

51 Tigger2005  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 12:47:28pm

Nothing builds character like fending for yourself after a disaster that strikes without warning. Did the pioneers get any warning before their cabins were buried by blizzards? NO! We must make life as dangerous and miserable and precarious as possible. This will make our nation stronger.
/

52 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 12:47:40pm

re: #50 MittDoesNotCompute

Make a note of AWD's logo; I somehow seriously doubt that John Goodman (and the Coen brothers) would care for his likeness from The Big Lebowski being used by this bunch of shitbags.

I'd love it if Goodman and the Coens (a bunch of white guys) told this bunch of "angry white dudes" to cease and desist or see them in court for infringing on Goodman's likeness.

Don't they know that Walter is an Orthodox Jew?

53 dragonath  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 12:48:15pm

John Goodman seems like a cool guy. He starred in David Byrne's True Stories... which is kind of a ode to small town America.

Youtube Video
54 Targetpractice  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 12:50:39pm

re: #49 makeitstop

Well, here's a frihgtening thought.

I'm chatting with a friend on Facebook - who, as it happens, wrote LIPA's emergency preparedness plan back in 2000. She says if the storm gets bad enough, LIPA has been ordered to take down the entire grid.

She is taking this storm very seriously, so I am too.

As in all of Long Island?

55 Obdicut  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 12:51:49pm

re: #52 Sheila Broflovski

Don't they know that Walter is an Orthodox Jew?

I will bet you 10 bagels they use his Jewishness to defend themselves against accusations of white supremacy at some point.

56 Renaissance_Man  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 12:53:13pm

re: #48 dragonath

Anyway, your description fits the definition of the guy working in a shitty job who is anti-union. I swear, you can appease people with a free turkey at Thanksgiving over a real wage increase.

You can, but only if you give them something to identify with that then becomes so key to their identity that they will literally harm themselves rather than go against this ideal. In other words, hating liberals and Democrats, and/or gays, foreigners, the UN, etc.

The vast majority of those who vote Republican aren't full-blown cultists, or racists, or any -ist. They're people who don't really agree with any Republican policies, but the idea of voting anything else is unthinkable. Opposing Democrats, liberals, and the socialist Commie in the White House is core to their self-image. It's their rock, the one thing they know about themselves.

57 Obdicut  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 12:53:43pm

Something a lot of people don't get is that Walter's conversion is really being shown as a sincere one. Orthodox Jews don't allow converts easily, and you have to convince a bunch of guys who are not easily impressed and probably weirded out that you want to convert that you have the faith and the knowledge to be a practicing Jew.

It is not like becoming born-again for the sake of a marriage. It is one of the hardest religions to convert into, especially for someone with zero Jewish roots.

58 MittDoesNotCompute  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 12:53:51pm

re: #53 dragonath

John Goodman seems like a cool guy. He starred in David Byrne's True Stories... which is kind of a ode to small town America.

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And Goodman's co-starring in Denzel Washington's new movie Flight:

Youtube Video
59 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 12:56:34pm

re: #57 Obdicut

Something a lot of people don't get is that Walter's conversion is really being shown as a sincere one. Orthodox Jews don't allow converts easily, and you have to convince a bunch of guys who are not easily impressed and probably weirded out that you want to convert that you have the faith and the knowledge to be a practicing Jew.

It is not like becoming born-again for the sake of a marriage. It is one of the hardest religions to convert into, especially for someone with zero Jewish roots.

I know some Chabad rabbis who use Walter Sobchak as an example of keeping and honoring Sabbath. There have been Shabbatons dedicated to Walter Sobchak. :)

60 William of Orange  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 12:58:12pm

Steve Job's new yacht launched in the Netherlands. Sadly he is not able to enjoy this craft that is driven by 27 iMacs.

Youtube Video
61 dragonath  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 1:00:10pm

re: #56 Renaissance_Man

Yeah, what it really comes down to is most people just want to live safe, ordered, and peaceful lives. Positioning Democrats as the enemy of that system, real or perceived, is bound to get people riled up.

The real question is how can you break people's investment into what actually is a flawed system.

62 sagehen  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 1:04:32pm

re: #47 William of Orange

375.000 New Yorkers to be moved out of harm's way! As of 7 PM local time all subway, bus- and train traffic will stop!!

It's nice we're so compact we can move all 375,000 of them to their temporary shelters in about 2 hours... (they're only going maybe 4 miles, some of them not even that far)

63 wrenchwench  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 1:17:47pm

re: #13 Sheila Broflovski

To everyone who commented on my granddaughter being diagnosed with Down Syndrome, here is a message from my daughter:

My daughter is a pediatric nurse practitioner from Columbia University, so she has a large support group and many resources.

Some of the nicest people I've ever met have had Down Syndrome. Some of the other nicest people I've ever met have been their parents.

64 Charles Johnson  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 1:21:02pm

Update: there's now an index for LGF Pages with specific tags, when you click on a tag at the bottom of the post.

65 Joanne  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 1:22:03pm

re: #24 A Mom Anon

I added my two cents in the last thread, too, re: San Fran hotels.

66 makeitstop  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 1:24:38pm

re: #54 Targetpractice

As in all of Long Island?

Yes. That chills me to the bone, because it's absolutely unprecedented.

67 engineer cat  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 1:30:31pm

Angry White Dude

the gop gets all those people who are not in the 1% with its elaborate fabrications justifying selfishness and active propagation of a belief in mythical populations your are told are living off of your money and that curiously resemble all of the things about your kids that piss you off the most

and all we democrats can do about it is boringly point out that reality is not actually in compliance

68 MittDoesNotCompute  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 1:30:41pm

re: #64 Charles Johnson

Update: there's now an index for LGF Pages with specific tags, when you click on a tag at the bottom of the post.

Cool...

69 Amory Blaine  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 1:32:18pm

Finally. A candidate that gets it. No more useless volcano monitoring and well needed cuts for FEMA. Fiscal sanity through and through.

/

70 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 1:39:53pm

re: #69 Amory Blaine

Finally. A candidate that gets it. No more useless volcano monitoring and well needed cuts for FEMA. Fiscal sanity through and through.

/

And if you ask me, it's high time we got rid of the wasteful, bloated FAA and the silly flight traffic controllers. We almost never hear of midair collisions, so obviously they aren't really all that necessary. Surely the private airlines could handle things, if only they were set free of the tyrannical chains of government regulation. If I were the CEO of Real American Airlines, I wouldn't want some unelected bureaucrat dictating to my pilots where they could fly, and how high, and which runway they could land on, and and what checklists they had to follow, and how many hours of sleep they had to have, and so forth.

71 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 1:47:03pm

Gov. Corbett did just a press conference on Sandy affecting Pennsylvania. Described it as "a hurricane wrapped in a nor'easter".

72 wrenchwench  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 1:48:28pm

re: #64 Charles Johnson

Update: there's now an index for LGF Pages with specific tags, when you click on a tag at the bottom of the post.

That's great!

73 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 1:53:12pm

re: #70 Our Precious Bodily Fluids

And if you ask me, it's high time we got rid of the wasteful, bloated FAA and the silly flight traffic controllers. We almost never hear of midair collisions, so obviously they aren't really all that necessary. Surely the private airlines could handle things, if only they were set free of the tyrannical chains of government regulation. If I were the CEO of Real American Airlines, I wouldn't want some unelected bureaucrat dictating to my pilots where they could fly, and how high, and which runway they could land on, and and what checklists they had to follow, and how many hours of sleep they had to have, and so forth.

[Link: www.gocomics.com...]

I think Watterson already covered this one.

74 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 1:56:32pm
75 Amory Blaine  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 1:58:32pm

‘Anti-Business’ Obama Is Best President For Corporate Profits Since 1900

Since he came into office, Republicans have consistently attacked President Obama for supposedly being anti-business. As ThinkProgress noted last week, the data shows that this charge is nonsense.

In fact, as the financial website Motley Fool noted today, President Obama is far and away the best president for corporate profits since 1900.

76 wrenchwench  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 1:59:34pm

re: #74 Page 3 in the Binder of Women

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77 freetoken  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 2:03:29pm

The water levels are rising:

Bergen Point West Reach, NY: [Link: tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov...]

The Battery, NY: [Link: tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov...]

78 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 2:03:30pm

re: #76 wrenchwench

rofl

79 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 2:04:41pm

The biggest disaster we are facing here in Detroit is at Comerica Park.

80 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 2:05:06pm

re: #76 wrenchwench

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Related...

81 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 2:11:00pm

I presume unskewed data has Sandy tracking further right and about to hit Iceland.
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82 MittDoesNotCompute  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 2:11:39pm

re: #81 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

I presume unskewed data has Sandy tracking further right and about to hit Iceland.
//

West Africa...

83 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 2:12:26pm
84 freetoken  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 2:12:55pm

re: #81 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Heh, the Tribune company is still pushing the horse race:

Romney and Ryan barnstorm Ohio as new poll shows tied race

It's a TIED RACE!!

85 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 2:15:49pm

Mayor Nutter (Philadelphia) press conference. SEPTA suspending service at 12:30am. Flooding on the Schyukill and Delaware rivers expected. All Philadelphia public schools closed tomorrow. Catholic schools and charter schools announcing closure as well. Colleges are suspending classes tomorrow as well. City government will be closed tomorrow other than emergency services and essential employees.

That pretty much writes off work tomorrow.

86 freetoken  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 2:16:08pm

Romney, Ryan stress bipartisanship in Ohio

That's it - Paul Ryan, the paragon of bipartisanship.

87 lawhawk  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 2:19:57pm

re: #85 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Amtrak shutting down all service north of NYC at 7pm. All East coast service to shut down for tomorrow. Everyone's hunkering down.

88 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 2:23:23pm

re: #87 lawhawk

Amtrak shutting down all service north of NYC at 7pm. All East coast service to shut down for tomorrow. Everyone's hunkering down.

So my friend's husband, currently in Brooklyn, with ticket back to CA tomorrow A.M. is probably stuck?

89 freetoken  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 2:23:25pm

The right wing and wingnut outlets from the Daily Mail to Fox to the one and only Jim Hoft are pushing this headline:

Madonna’s mention of Obama draws boos

NEW ORLEANS: Madonna drew boos and triggered a walkout by several concertgoers after she touted President Barack Obama on her “MDNA Tour” in New Orleans.

The Material Girl asked during Saturday night’s performance: “Who’s registered to vote?” She added: “I don’t care who you vote for as long as you vote for Obama.”

Drawing boos in touting Obama over Republican Mitt Romney, Madonna followed: “Seriously, I don’t care who you vote for ... Do not take this privilege for granted. Go vote.” Madonna is often outspoken.

[...]

Seriously? As if in NOLA there's a huge stampede of anti-Obama folk at a Madonna concert?

I wonder what really happened. I bet it was only a handful of people.

90 Lidane  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 2:23:53pm

re: #86 freetoken

Romney, Ryan stress bipartisanship in Ohio

That's it - Paul Ryan, the paragon of bipartisanship.

The GOP idea of bipartisanship = the Democrats doing what the Republicans want and nothing else.

Pfft.

91 blueraven  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 2:25:18pm
92 Lidane  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 2:26:26pm

Old man still yelling at clouds:

McCain: Obama Response To Libya Attack Is Worse Than Watergate

Historical perspective, how the fuck does it work?

93 freetoken  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 2:26:45pm

Trying to imagine throngs of tens of thousands of Mitt Romney fans, in New Orleans, throwing themselves at the feet of Madonna in a wild craze of fandom, only to turn sour and rowdy at the mention of "Obama", as they all storm out spitting disgustingly at their patron saint-ess of Mormon virtues - Madonna.

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... no, just doesn't compute.

94 wrenchwench  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 2:26:46pm

re: #91 blueraven

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95 Cheechako  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 2:28:02pm

re: #90 Lidane

The GOP idea of bipartisanship = the Democrats doing what the Republicans want and nothing else.

Pfft.

I just posted a page on this subject.

96 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 2:28:50pm

Haha, talking about supplies, I look in my fridge and notice I have not one, but two dozen eggs. I live alone. (lower shelf, upper shelf problems)

97 Gus  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 2:29:00pm
98 freetoken  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 2:30:51pm

The AP story as published by WaPo:

NEW ORLEANS — Madonna drew boos and triggered a walkout by several concertgoers after she touted President Barack Obama on her “MDNA Tour” in New Orleans.

"Several" - meaning more than 2.

What, maybe 5 people?

Is the media so pressured to make the horse race indeed a horse race, in an attempt to not leave any advertising money on the table, that this non-event now garners headlines?

99 Gus  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 2:31:41pm

re: #98 freetoken

The AP story as published by WaPo:

"Several" - meaning more than 2.

What, maybe 5 people?

Is the media so pressured to make the horse race indeed a horse race, in an attempt to not leave any advertising money on the table, that this non-event now garners headlines?

sev·er·al/ˈsev(ə)rəl/
Adjective:

More than two but not many: "the author of several books"; "Van Gogh was just one of several artists who gathered at Auvers".

100 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 2:31:44pm

re: #98 freetoken

The AP story as published by WaPo:

"Several" - meaning more than 2.

What, maybe 5 people?

Is the media so pressured to make the horse race indeed a horse race, in an attempt to not leave any advertising money on the table, that this non-event now garners headlines?

Most likely the people who could afford the 5k front row seats.

101 allegro  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 2:32:39pm

re: #98 freetoken

The AP story as published by WaPo:

"Several" - meaning more than 2.

What, maybe 5 people?

Is the media so pressured to make the horse race indeed a horse race, in an attempt to not leave any advertising money on the table, that this non-event now garners headlines?

yes

102 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 2:35:01pm

re: #98 freetoken

Maybe. I don't mind political music and art but I hate being lectured on politics and social activism by musicians and actors. People are paying to see a show, not a political lecture. Madonna fans probably don't give a shit about politics anyways.

103 HappyWarrior  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 2:35:23pm

Yes, I remember last hurricane season the dipshits in the GOP congressional caucus basically demanding that tax cuts be made before they agreed to hurricane relief funds. Tax cuts above all. Fuck you if you're in the wake of a storm. Fucking assholes. They should be called out for this.

104 Stoatly  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 2:36:59pm

re: #102 Killgore Trout

Madonna fans probably don't give a shit about politics anyways.

Or music...

105 blueraven  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 2:37:10pm

re: #102 Killgore Trout

Maybe. I don't mind political music and art but I hate being lectured on politics and social activism by musicians and actors. People are paying to see a show, not a political lecture. Madonna fans probably don't give a shit about politics anyways.

I think Madonna concert goers expect this by now.

106 Gus  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 2:38:55pm

Either way this is a game changer.

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107 darthstar  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 2:39:02pm

Yay Mitt! I knew there was something stupid he could say in context to Sandy.

108 freetoken  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 2:39:56pm

re: #102 Killgore Trout

From the description of Madonna's actions, it hardly sounds like a "political lecture".

I suspect that various interests are just trying to make something out of nothing about those who booed.

Personally, I can't relate to people who would spend lots of money on this kind of thing, so intuitively I'm not going to be able to judge what I would have done in this situation.

Yet it strikes me like that earlier news article from the Tribune co. that I linked. "A poll" was cited - but one has to dig down into the article to try and determine exactly who or what was doing the polling, and then the source is referenced indirectly by referring to what that same organization did in the past.

109 prairiefire  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 2:40:11pm

Everybody on the East Coast stay safe!

110 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 2:41:18pm

re: #107 darthstar

Yay Mitt! I knew there was something stupid he could say in context to Sandy.

What?

111 prairiefire  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 2:42:21pm

re: #102 Killgore Trout

I would be more afraid of her flashing her titty like she has earlier on the tour. I don't want to see that. I mean, really, now she's doing that? Pushing 55?

112 Gus  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 2:43:15pm
113 Obdicut  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 2:43:26pm

re: #97 Gus

I really, really wish I'd been able to convince my parents to go to their place in Allston. I'm worried about them. This is going to suck, because they'll lose power and their cell service may go down too. Hope it doesn't take too long for me to find out they're alright.

114 Gus  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 2:44:21pm
115 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 2:44:22pm

re: #111 prairiefire

I would be more afraid of her flashing her titty like she has earlier on the tour. I don't want to see that. I mean, really, now she's doing that? Pushing 55?

She's really starved for attention these days. It wouldn't surprise me if she called the press about the booing story herself.

116 freetoken  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 2:45:15pm

re: #114 Gus

Oh, c'mon now. You know that they're all staring at the screen because a Madonna video is playing on it.

117 Gus  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 2:45:19pm

re: #113 Obdicut

I really, really wish I'd been able to convince my parents to go to their place in Allston. I'm worried about them. This is going to suck, because they'll lose power and their cell service may go down too. Hope it doesn't take too long for me to find out they're alright.

Yeah. My folks are hunkered down. They have an alternate. Fortunately they're 10 miles from the shore and of course behind the barrier islands. Think I'll bug them again.

118 Obdicut  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 2:46:26pm

And I will always respect Madonna for sticking up for the Roma in Europe. I hope it was more than a passing fancy through her head, but very, very few people talk about the Roma and it's good to have it brought up.


[Link: www.cbc.ca...]

She got booed for that, too.

119 freetoken  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 2:50:19pm

Jim the Dim is on top of the story:

Madonna was LOUDLY BOOED in New Orleans when she touted Obama last night at her concert.

He even claims to have a video:

Youtube Video

Yeah, that video sure is condemnatory.

120 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 2:51:42pm

I'm currently knuckling down for the storm. Where I am in DC, we will only get "grazed." Yet, conditions will be worse than they were for the derecho earlier this year.

Up north it is going to hit HARD.

The thing about this storm is that it is being fed a vast amount of energy - more than usual due to shifting currents ultimately due to climate - mixed with just bad luck and a full moon.

All together, this means it is going to grind away for much longer than a normal hurricane.


Just this year, the US had the greatest, most widespread and hottest heatwaves on record, the most bizarre winter on record, a derecho, droughts that led to massive wildfires and multi-state crop failures.

The total damages from all these climate shifts is already in the hundreds of billions of dollars.

We will see how high that is after one of our largest metro areas gets slammed.

A biblically minded person would believe that God is trying to tell us something is going on that we are not paying attention to.

It is called climate change.

It will only get worse from here on out, and out leaders can't even utter the words.

If it didn't mean the ultimate collapse of our nation and the deaths of billions, I would be amused at the Darwin Award grade stupidity that ignores and denies such things. Instead, I'm trapped with these morons and they vote republican without looking out their windows and thinking.

If Romney wins, you can literally say it is over for America - because the precious window where we can start fixing things and keep it at just really bad, as opposed to catastrophic will close.

121 prairiefire  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 2:51:51pm

My in-laws on the Big Island had to evacuate last night cuz of the Canada earthquake.[Link: www.nativefm.com...]

Nativefm is on it.

122 prairiefire  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 2:53:02pm

re: #120 Almost Killed by Space Hookers

Gosh, I feel anxious for all those folks.

123 prairiefire  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 2:54:36pm

re: #118 Obdicut

And I will always respect Madonna for sticking up for the Roma in Europe. I hope it was more than a passing fancy through her head, but very, very few people talk about the Roma and it's good to have it brought up.

[Link: www.cbc.ca...]

She got booed for that, too.

Yep. I always hope powerful folks are doing more under the radar with their actual cold hard cash, as well.

124 darthstar  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 2:55:25pm

re: #119 freetoken

Those are people whooping for an encore. Had Dim ever been to a concert?

125 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 2:57:26pm

re: #122 prairiefire

Gosh, I feel anxious for all those folks.

Yeah... this is a frankenstorm.

My buddies over at Princeton GFDL are all in a sort of horrified awe at it.

There is still a tiny chance it grazes further north and loses some energy on the way, but the odds are that this will be a monster.

I fully expect some hundreds who think they know better to get trapped and die wherever.

I fully expect there to be a lot of unpleasant aftermath.

126 Gus  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 2:58:34pm

re: #124 darthstar

Those are people whooping for an encore. Had Dim ever been to a concert?

Is he confusing a "woo!" with "boo?"

127 darthstar  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 3:00:20pm

Out here on the central California coast it's getting pretty nasty too. Just got back from a 22 mile bike ride...got hit by a pocket of fog about half way through and had moisture build up on my glasses...then I encountered a slight head-breeze in the final 8 miles or so that caused me to down-shift momentarily.

128 darthstar  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 3:00:49pm

re: #126 Gus

Is he confusing a "woo!" with "boo?"

Yes, I do believe he is.

129 bmiller11757  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 3:01:19pm

re: #125 Almost Killed by Space Hookers

Yeah... this is a frankenstorm.

My buddies over at Princeton GFDL are all in a sort of horrified awe at it.

There is still a tiny chance it grazes further north and loses some energy on the way, but the odds are that this will be a monster.

I fully expect some hundreds who think they know better to get trapped and die wherever.

I fully expect there to be a lot of unpleasant aftermath.

There are idiots that just won't leave the shore areas. Fine. Clean out the gene pool. Less that 5 miles from me, down the road, is already flooding and we have not received the full storm.

Wind is blowing damm hard now. We are going to be hurting soon here on Long Island, NY.

130 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 3:02:15pm

re: #129 bmiller11757

There are idiots that just won't leave the shore areas. Fine. Clean out the gene pool. Less that 5 miles from me, down the road, is already flooding and we have not received the full storm.

Wind is blowing damm hard now. We are going to be hurting soon here on Long Island, NY.

Stay safe man... Seriously. Stay safe.

131 JamesWI  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 3:03:48pm

re: #129 bmiller11757

There are idiots that just won't leave the shore areas. Fine. Clean out the gene pool. Less that 5 miles from me, down the road, is already flooding and we have not received the full storm.

Wind is blowing damm hard now. We are going to be hurting soon here on Long Island, NY.

Last night when they were still expecting a big tsunami in Hawaii, they were showing live streams of people standing right on the beach.

Lots of stupid people in this country. (Which is why there's still a chance we might have to use the words "President Mitt Romney" in the near future.)

132 Gus  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 3:04:06pm

re: #128 darthstar

Yes, I do believe he is.

Derp. Plus, booing at a concert is a great way to get into a fight.

133 Obdicut  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 3:04:46pm

Those early votes better be stored somewhere safe from flooding.

134 Gus  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 3:05:22pm

Edit, correction added below:

135 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 3:06:47pm

re: #134 Gus

That is not good. It is a good thing I am off from work Monday and Tuesday.

136 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 3:06:55pm

re: #127 darthstar

Out here on the central California coast it's getting pretty nasty too. Just got back from a 22 mile bike ride...got hit by a pocket of fog about half way through and had moisture build up on my glasses...then I encountered a slight head-breeze in the final 8 miles or so that caused me to down-shift momentarily.

I just prepared for Monday, got gas.

137 bmiller11757  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 3:07:19pm

re: #130 Almost Killed by Space Hookers

Stay safe man... Seriously. Stay safe.

Lady.

But thanks. Done everything I can, so now its a waiting game.

138 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 3:10:43pm

re: #137 bmiller11757

Lady.

But thanks. Done everything I can, so now its a waiting game.

You were not to evacuate? What is the criteria? 1 mile in ok?

139 Lidane  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 3:10:53pm

Joss Whedon continues to be awesome:

Youtube Video
140 wrenchwench  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 3:14:20pm

re: #139 Lidane

That was great. And I've never seen a zombie movie or TV show.

141 darthstar  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 3:15:00pm

re: #134 Gus

Beautiful. I love the power of the ocean...nothing sexier on the planet.

One of my favorite pics...imagine being that guy...fucking awesome.

Image: ea311fc7f65a9a82b7f3c8c8da88f3ad.jpg

142 Gus  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 3:15:46pm

Sandy Expected to Bring Life-Threatening Storm Surge Flooding to Mid-Atlantic Coast

143 Daniel Ballard  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 3:16:11pm

Almost killed by space hookers...

LOL

Hi LVQ!

144 bmiller11757  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 3:17:44pm

re: #138 Page 3 in the Binder of Women

You were not to evacuate? What is the criteria? 1 mile in ok?

Not in the flood zone. For as long as I can remember (lived on LI all my life) the water has never come up to my area.

I am more worried about the winds and the trees

145 freetoken  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 3:19:26pm

re: #142 Gus

My sister in NYC is hunkered down. I think the biggest worry, after the flooding, is how long the electricity might be out. Parts of the NE have, in the recent past, been notoriously slow for getting the electricity back online after outages.

146 MittDoesNotCompute  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 3:21:29pm

re: #98 freetoken

The AP story as published by WaPo:

"Several" - meaning more than 2.

What, maybe 5 people?

Is the media so pressured to make the horse race indeed a horse race, in an attempt to not leave any advertising money on the table, that this non-event now garners headlines?

The media want to MBF this with stuff like when Natalie Maines (of the Dixie Chicks) had her anti-Bush screed, in order to give the RWNJs their "shut up and sing" moment and increase the pre-election drama, no doubt.

Edit: Oh look, there's KT, taking the bait.

147 jamesfirecat  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 3:23:36pm

re: #126 Gus

Is he confusing a "woo!" with "boo?"

Boo-urns!

148 blueraven  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 3:23:37pm
149 philosophus invidius  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 3:25:34pm

re: #119 freetoken

Jim the Dim is on top of the story:

He even claims to have a video:

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Yeah, that video sure is condemnatory.

According to the AP, she "drew boos and triggered a walkout by several concertgoers." So there's that. Granted, LA is probably one of our most racist states.

150 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 3:25:58pm

Well, I have everything charged up, extra batteries, candles, water bottles filled up, and a cooler of ice. Plus some cooked food and a supply of cheese, bread, and other canned goods.

And books in case the power goes out.

151 Gus  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 3:26:03pm
152 freetoken  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 3:27:41pm

Tide gauge readings can be quite enlightening. E.g., here is the Kahului data:

[Link: tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov...]

The tsunami can be seen as perturbation, ringing, of the Pacific ocean.

153 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 3:27:49pm
154 efuseakay  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 3:28:14pm

re: #111 prairiefire

I would be more afraid of her flashing her titty like she has earlier on the tour. I don't want to see that. I mean, really, now she's doing that? Pushing 55?

But her bobbies are only 21.

155 Gus  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 3:29:05pm

re: #134 Gus

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Update... correction.

156 Mentis Fugit  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 3:29:12pm

re: #143 Daniel Ballard

Almost killed by space hookers...

When they unzip your space suit to go down on you...

157 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 3:29:20pm

re: #151 Gus

Gus that West Philly tweeter is now on Sandy in Philly, according to philly.com

158 JamesWI  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 3:34:42pm

Don't know if anyone's posted this yet, but it's pretty good:

159 engineer cat  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 3:34:58pm

the big question in the election for tea leave readers these days is whether the average lead that romney has in the national polls, 1%, is consistent with the electoral college data which shows obama with a three state lead. most if not all of romney's lead in the national comes from rassmussen and especially gallup, which has been an outlier all year

to test these numbers against each other, i entered the 2010 census pctg of national population for each state, and today's real clear politics average for each state, when there was one. it turns out that polling data is nonexistent for four or five small states such as alabama, alaska, wyoming, and delaware. for these states i used the common scientific method i learned while working for the U.S. Army, technically know as SWAG, or Super Wild Ass Guess

my results?
obama 46.2
romney 45.4

given that it seems more likely that gallup's single poll with one nationalized set of assumptions about the electorate is more likely to be wrong than several polls per state each with individual assumptions about the electorate, perhaps more in tune with the pollster's knowledge of that individual state, i conclude that gallup's assumptions are like whack, d00d.

160 Gus  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 3:37:11pm

re: #157 PhillyPretzel

Gus that West Philly tweeter is now on Sandy in Philly, according to philly.com

Hard to keep up sometimes. It's like being an editor in real time with Twitter. Correction! Hold the presses!

161 JamesWI  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 3:37:55pm

re: #159 engineer cat

That seems like an awful lot of work to come to the conclusion:

i conclude that gallup's assumptions are like whack, d00d.

That you can see just by looking at the numbers :)

162 wrenchwench  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 3:42:10pm

re: #158 JamesWI

Don't know if anyone's posted this yet, but it's pretty good:

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See here:

re: #139 Lidane

Joss Whedon continues to be awesome:

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You can click on the #139 and watch it right there.

163 engineer cat  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 3:44:12pm

re: #161 JamesWI

That seems like an awful lot of work to come to the conclusion:

That you can see just by looking at the numbers :)

but what is better in a election season than to substantiate one's prejudices with a volley of factitious detail?

164 Obdicut  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 4:06:29pm

Hah, kids are awesome.

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165 lawhawk  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 4:08:13pm

re: #97 Gus

Gov. Christie said pretty much the same thing at his afternoon presser. He'd rather have people pissed at him for erring on the side of caution, but that's a damned sight better than having to attend funerals for those lost in the storm who didn't heed the advice to evacuate to low lying areas. Or the emergency personnel who put themselves at risk trying to save those who thought they could outlast mother nature.

166 prairiefire  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 5:06:36pm

re: #164 Obdicut

Hah, kids are awesome.

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Are they covering the delivery grates/holes? Good idea. What about securing all the random scaffolding?

167 Mich-again  Sun, Oct 28, 2012 6:56:10pm

Here is the GOP's plan to replace NOAA. Just put one of these up in every city. link..


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