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1 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 29, 2012 9:39:06pm

Mraz seems a particularly good partner for Hall. This is the second vid of theirs you've posted and they're both excellent. Thank you, Charles.

2 Amory Blaine  Mon, Oct 29, 2012 9:57:11pm

More douchebaggery from Wisconsin:

Volunteer for Chad Lee recants story of attack for being gay Republican

A volunteer for Chad Lee's congressional campaign has recanted allegations that he was attacked at his home last week for being a gay Republican.

The volunteer, Kyle Wood, could now face criminal charges that include obstructing police or filing a false police report, Madison Police Capt. Joe Balles said Monday.

"We don't ever want to be in the business of discouraging crime victims to come forward," Balles said. "At the same time, when something like this happens, this is on the extremes."

Balles said the case would be cleared as "unfounded" and sent to the Dane County District Attorney's Office after the follow-up investigation is completed.

Police did not name the man in an updated incident report posted on its website Monday or in the original report posted Wednesday. And Balles didn't identify him in an interview Monday.

But in a statement Thursday, Lee's campaign decried the alleged attack and identified the volunteer as Kyle Wood.

Over the past several days, Wood has given interviews to numerous national and local conservative media outlets, including The Daily Caller, Wisconsin Reporter, Media Trackers, talk show host Vicki McKenna, and columnist Christian Schneider writing in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.

Wood said in the interviews he was attacked for being a gay man who did not support Lee's opponent, Democratic congressional candidate and state Rep. Mark Pocan, D-Madison, who is also gay.

Wood supplied The Daily Caller with photographs of him after the alleged attack, purportedly showing injuries to his neck, head and face.

On Monday, Media Trackers published on its website threatening text messages allegedly sent by Philip Frank, Pocan's husband, to Wood. Balles said there is "no validity" to the messages, and Media Trackers removed the story from its website.

3 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Oct 29, 2012 9:58:33pm

Unbelievable post from RW Website...

This better not interfere w/ the election of RR2!!!!

Good grief!

4 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 29, 2012 10:04:42pm

re: #3 Dancing along the light of day

Unbelievable post from RW Website...

Good grief!

RR2? Mitt Romney's not Ronald Reagan. Hell, Ronald Reagan wasn't who that dimbulb imagines he was. Geeze.

5 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Oct 29, 2012 10:11:30pm

re: #3 Dancing along the light of day

Unbelievable post from RW Website...

Good grief!

Oh boy. That's putting a lot on Romney.

I can see people voting for him because they're Republicans, and he's on the ticket, and he'll do. I've done that with a few Democrats.

I cannot imagine who is thinking he's the second coming of Imaginary Reagan.

6 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Mon, Oct 29, 2012 10:15:42pm

re: #4 Dark_Falcon

RR2? Mitt Romney's not Ronald Reagan. Hell, Ronald Reagan wasn't who that dimbulb imagines he was. Geeze.

Romney/Ryan
RR2 there, but I suspect what they were aiming for was R² you know, to be all "hip" and "with-it."

But who knows, it could be a reference to Reagan, I put nothing past these people right now.

7 Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All  Mon, Oct 29, 2012 10:18:17pm

CNN reporting a large fire with several buildings involved in Queens right now. Live video up. Saying fire fighters are having trouble getting to the blaze.

8 Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All  Mon, Oct 29, 2012 10:19:15pm

re: #6 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You

Romney/Ryan
RR2 there, but I suspect what they were aiming for was R² you know, to be all "hip" and "with-it."

But who knows, it could be a reference to Reagan, I put nothing past these people right now.

Maybe it's half of R2-D2 and that Lucas will save the Republican Party by revising the movie so that the Republicans win? :)

9 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 29, 2012 10:21:28pm

re: #8 Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All

Maybe it's half of R2-D2 and that Lucas will save the Republican Party by revising the movie so that the Republicans win? :)

Obama shot first!

/Entirely kidding, using the a classic Star Wars meme.

10 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 29, 2012 10:24:38pm

Good Night, All.

11 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Oct 29, 2012 10:38:14pm

OK, even worse!

No power in New York City.It won't be long til the looters come out.They d better declare martial law temporarily to maintain order.At least get the national Guards out in force with loaded firearms ready to shoot looters on site.

12 JamesWI  Mon, Oct 29, 2012 10:42:05pm

LOL......in its third weekend at the box office, Atlas Shrugged Part 2 was only shown in 147 theaters (down from 945 the previous weekend), and brought in a measly $91,418.

Bringing its three week total to about $3.2 million......on a reported budget of $20 million.

The free market strikes again!

13 Mocking Jay  Mon, Oct 29, 2012 10:43:03pm

re: #11 Dancing along the light of day

OK, even worse!

Oh please, we've lost power before.

14 Mocking Jay  Mon, Oct 29, 2012 10:43:34pm

And now I really should get some sleep...

15 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Mon, Oct 29, 2012 10:49:28pm

re: #11 Dancing along the light of day

OK, even worse!

Yeah, the Keyboard Warrior Division of the American Simulated Militia is a particularly bloodthirsty band of faux soldiers.

16 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Mon, Oct 29, 2012 10:56:04pm

Off to bed. Wind seems to have eased a bit here in Philly. And I don't think as much rainfall as expected either. Will have to see how things look in the morning.

Didn't see any obvious damage from the apartment, but also a limited viewing area. Might go out and walk around a bit if conditions permit tomorrow.

17 Kragar  Mon, Oct 29, 2012 11:36:09pm

Building facade collapse

18 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Mon, Oct 29, 2012 11:40:36pm

Typical RaptureReady douchebags...

out of the box:
If Cleveland gets hit real bad and people are without power, traffic lights out, public transit problems, Romney could take Ohio!!!

Obama's huge margin of victory in Cuyahoga County in 2008 was greater than the margin he won the state by! Cleveland can change the entire outcome of the state!!!


Time4me2fly:
These states are all heavily democratic, so even a low turnout will still give these states to obama. Ohio, which is the most important swing state, should not be affected. Pennsylvania , a swing state could be affected though. My personal opinion, is that the republicans will go to the polls if they have to swim, so I see any hardship in voting benefiting republicans. If the dems feel this hurts them, then it wouldn't surprise me to see obama try to delay the election. Also, the disruption could open up the prospect of wide spread fraud as well. I think this is the most divisive election in our history and I look for problems afterwards. My advice, hope for the best, prepare for the worst.


out of the box:
Not necessarily!

Praying to God that major infrastructure in Cleveland is damaged or destroyed by Sandy, but that lives are spared.

Yeah because your side winning an election is obviously more important than the destruction of a city. No ethical problem with praying for that destruction. Nope, none at all.

19 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Mon, Oct 29, 2012 11:43:54pm

re: #17 Kragar

Building facade collapse

[Embedded content]

Yeah, that is a good one, the title to the vid is perfect too.

20 freetoken  Mon, Oct 29, 2012 11:54:04pm

Last night I posted a section of Gorecki's Symphony № 3 (`Symphony of Sorrowful Songs`), for soprano and orchestra.

From the Wikipedia article:

His name remained larged unknown outside Poland until the mid-to late 1980s, and his fame arrived in the 1990s.[11] Especially in 1992, 15 years after it was composed, a recording of his Third Symphony, Symphony of Sorrowful Songs—recorded with soprano Dawn Upshaw and released to commemorate the memory of those lost during the Holocaust—became a worldwide commercial and critical success, selling more than a million copies and vastly exceeding the typical lifetime sales of a recording of symphonic music by a 20th-century composer. As surprised as anyone at its popularity, Górecki said, "Perhaps people find something they need in this piece of music […] somehow I hit the right note, something they were missing. Something somewhere had been lost to them. I feel that I instinctively knew what they needed."[12] This popular acclaim did not generate wide interest in Górecki's other works,[13] and he pointedly resisted the temptation to repeat earlier success, or compose for commercial reward.

The excerpt I posted last night was not from the hit release, but I liked it so much I dug up the hit version, and here it is:

The recording is at a low volume, so you might need to turn it up.

21 freetoken  Mon, Oct 29, 2012 11:54:32pm

That's the entire piece, not just the excerpt.

22 Kragar  Mon, Oct 29, 2012 11:58:01pm

re: #19 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You

Yeah, that is a good one, the title to the vid is perfect too.

Pretty impressive for a storm that may not actually exist.

23 freetoken  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:17:21am

The now famous "wind map" is quite animated tonight:

[Link: hint.fm...]

24 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:20:57am

re: #23 freetoken

Not pretty around NYC.

25 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:21:24am

re: #23 freetoken

The now famous "wind map" is quite animated tonight:

[Link: hint.fm...]

Almost looks as if there were some kind of storm up north, weird.

/

26 freetoken  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:25:26am

Eeesshh....

Boy, 12, on trial for murdering neo-Nazi father

A US boy, who was 10 when he shot his neo-Nazi father dead, could become the youngest person ever jailed in California if he's held responsible.

Now 12, the boy is on trial for murdering 32-year-old Jeff Hall, a regional leader of the National Socialist Movement.
Prosecutors want the boy kept locked up for as long as possible, citing a history of violent behaviour including choking a teacher with a telephone cord.

"In reality, sometimes kids - just like all of us - do things because they want to, and he decided, as he put it, it was time to end the father-son thing," said Michael Soccio, chief deputy district attorney.

[...]

27 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:40:44am

The weather channel just showed a graphic listing power outages by state, current total due to Sandy is 7,099,000 customers without power. Don't forget that a "customer" can be a single family home or an entire highrise. The number of people without power is probably something north of 30 million right now.

28 researchok  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:41:48am

Morning, all

29 researchok  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:36:44am

re: #20 freetoken

A FT top Ten selection.

Superb. I'd never heard this.

Favorited

30 researchok  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:38:02am

re: #27 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You

There are going to be dome happy people at Energizer

31 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:15:29am

Charles I have a bug report for you.

On the new Pages page when you click on "show more pages" at the bottom it works fine, the first time. Once you get to the bottom of that group and hit "show mores pages" it loads the new group of pages and some of the previous group twice, the next time it loads the new group plus some previous ones three times, the next four, next five, etc, etc...

I made it to 13 repeats of the same groups of pages before I got a script "stopped working" error and my browser gave up and locked up.

Script: h t t p s:/ / apis.google.com/_/apps-static/_/js/gapi/plusone/rt=j/ver=G9D_qPqVja8.en./sv=1/am=!EsUnt3hT0SSIO7F7ug/d=1/rs=AItRSTPlJTmKruD4_l4_OXefNJaJB1uikg/cb=gapi.loaded_0:186

Using Firefox on Vista.
The glitch is repeatable, not a one time occurrence.

32 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:28:07am

High wind warning cancelled for me.

33 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 3:02:30am

Morning honcos. Can't stay long. All well here with no loss of power. But my radio just said 16 people have died.

34 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 3:19:16am

re: #33 Cannadian Club Akbar

Morning honcos. Can't stay long. All well here with no loss of power. But my radio just said 16 people have died.

I have not been keeping up but the known count several hours ago was 13 so that is probably about right, so far. I imagine some more fatalities will probably come to light as the day proceeds. :(

A lot of areas will not even be checked for damage and citizen welfare till after daylight.

35 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 3:23:35am

Largo puppeteer plans to plead guilty to possessing, receiving child porn
The disturbing case of a professional puppeteer who wrote about his desire to kill, cook and eat a child apparently will end with a guilty plea and prison time.
[Link: www.tampabay.com...]

36 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 3:28:00am

re: #34 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You

We went out about 10:30 last night for a quick drive. Trees down and saw a trash can doing about 20MPH.

37 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 3:38:51am

50 homes destroyed in 6-alarm fire in Queens
[Link: abclocal.go.com...]

38 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 3:39:29am

Alrighty. Gotta run. Hope all is well with the eastern seaboard lizards.

39 AK-47%  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 3:39:41am

re: #26 freetoken

Eeesshh....

Boy, 12, on trial for murdering neo-Nazi father

A child like that needs some serious behavioral and social therapy to overcome an upbringing like that. But I guess the state has decided that it is quicker and cheaper to just kill them than to invest in something that might not even have an effect.

Some might argue that it is the "Christian" thing to do, I guess...

40 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 4:00:45am

re: #37 Cannadian Club Akbar

50 homes destroyed in 6-alarm fire in Queens
[Link: abclocal.go.com...]

Video here...looks like something out of a Michael Bay movie.

[Link: www.nbcnewyork.com...]

41 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 4:11:10am

re: #31 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You

Charles I have a bug report for you.

On the new Pages page when you click on "show more pages" at the bottom it works fine, the first time. Once you get to the bottom of that group and hit "show mores pages" it loads the new group of pages and some of the previous group twice, the next time it loads the new group plus some previous ones three times, the next four, next five, etc, etc...

I made it to 13 repeats of the same groups of pages before I got a script "stopped working" error and my browser gave up and locked up.

Script: h t t p s:/ / apis.google.com/_/apps-static/_/js/gapi/plusone/rt=j/ver=G9D_qPqVja8.en./sv=1/am=!EsUnt3hT0SSIO7F7ug/d=1/rs=AItRSTPlJTmKruD4_l4_OXefNJaJB1uikg/cb=gapi.loaded_0:186

Using Firefox on Vista.
The glitch is repeatable, not a one time occurrence.

Charles is aware of issues in pagination, he mentioned it on Sunday night. There is not a quick fix at this time, but he is working on it.

42 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 4:12:50am

My youngest daughter is OK in Brooklyn, did not have any power outage, but was informed that she has to report to work today (in Midtown). With the subways closed and the surface streets flooded, she said "HOW? You gonna pick me up in a rowboat?"

43 Decatur Deb  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 4:16:26am

re: #40 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You

Video here...looks like something out of a Michael Bay movie.

[Link: www.nbcnewyork.com...]

More FDNY union thugs.

44 Obdicut  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 4:16:39am

Checking in from the Upper East Side. Never got really dramatic up here. We're lucky. NYU losing power to the hospital is a terrible thing. My wife may, even with her broken leg, go down to NY presby today to see if there's anything she can do to help out.

It's a really good thing the whole city isn't at the same level.

45 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 4:19:19am

re: #2 Amory Blaine

More douchebaggery from Wisconsin:

Volunteer for Chad Lee recants story of attack for being gay Republican

Let me guess. There were "SLURS" scratched on his face, in mysterious backwards writing.

46 PhillyPretzel  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 4:20:23am

Good Morning from Philly. I did not have any flooding and the power did not go out. I have to check to see if SEPTA is running for tomorrow.

47 Obdicut  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 4:20:56am

re: #45 Sheila Broflovski

Alouette, is there any of your NY-based family that's in any need at the moment? My wife and I really didn't get affected by the storm at all, and if there's anything I can do for you and yours, I'd be happy to help. I can't, unfortunately, build a bridge between Brooklyn and Manhattan, though.

48 Decatur Deb  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 4:23:16am

re: #47 Obdicut

Alouette, is there any of your family that's in any need at the moment? My wife and I really didn't get affected by the storm at all, and if there's anything I can do for you and yours, I'd be happy to help. I can't, unfortunately, build a bridge between Brooklyn and Manhattan, though.

Any skills at hydro-engineering?

Image: Charlton-Heston-as-Moses-The-Ten-Commandments-1956-Paramount.jpg

49 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 4:23:36am

re: #47 Obdicut

Alouette, is there any of your NY-based family that's in any need at the moment? My wife and I really didn't get affected by the storm at all, and if there's anything I can do for you and yours, I'd be happy to help. I can't, unfortunately, build a bridge between Brooklyn and Manhattan, though.

They're in Crown Heights, which you can guess (from the Heights part) is on high ground. No power outage, plenty of food, the pizza and burger joints are open, just my daughter doesn't know how she is going to get to work this morning.

50 Obdicut  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 4:23:47am

The last I heard from my parents in Connecticut, they'd lost power but whatever colonist built that house there back in the 1700s (we don't know exactly when the house dates from) situated it very well. It's tucked into a little space on the hill that doesn't really get big wind. I am worried about the trees around it, but none of them are really very likely to fall towards the house, they all lean elseways. I'm pretty confident they're okay, but I'll be very glad when I heard from them.

51 Obdicut  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 4:24:18am

re: #49 Sheila Broflovski

I can show up to her work and claim to be her. My cross-dressing skills are very rusty, but this is an emergency, after all.

52 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 4:24:59am

re: #51 Obdicut

I can show up to her work and claim to be her. My cross-dressing skills are very rusty, but this is an emergency, after all.

She'd appreciate that! Can you sound like her when you talk to her clients on the phone?

53 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 4:25:43am

re: #50 Obdicut

The last I heard from my parents in Connecticut, they'd lost power but whatever colonist built that house there back in the 1700s (we don't know exactly when the house dates from) situated it very well. It's tucked into a little space on the hill that doesn't really get big wind. I am worried about the trees around it, but none of them are really very likely to fall towards the house, they all lean elseways. I'm pretty confident they're okay, but I'll be very glad when I heard from them.

It must be so cool to live in a house that old! My house was built in 1968.

54 Obdicut  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 4:25:59am

re: #52 Sheila Broflovski

She'd appreciate that! Can you sound like her when you talk to her clients on the phone?

Does she have a deep but excitable voice that sounds oddly like Robert Downey Jr.?

55 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 4:28:22am

re: #54 Obdicut

Does she have a deep but excitable voice that sounds oddly like Robert Downey Jr.?

People tell her that she has a "Midwestern" accent (meaning she does not talk like a Noo Yawkuh). Can you do "Midwestern"?

56 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 4:29:25am

"Midwestern" accent: when everyone else around you talks funny, and they think that you are the one who talks funny.

57 Decatur Deb  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 4:29:33am

re: #55 Sheila Broflovski

People tell her that she has a "Midwestern" accent (meaning she does not talk like a Noo Yawkuh). Can you do "Midwestern"?

I've been told 'midwestern' starts in Hackensack.

58 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 4:30:56am

Greets and saluts from the battered but not beaten NYC metro area. Daylight is revealing quite the scene of devastation across the NYC metro area. Millions are without power (we thankfully avoided losing power by inches - a power line on the block arced a few times but never gave out) and it may be a week or more before power is restored.

Flooding has displaced hundreds of thousands from New Jersey through Long Island and Connecticut and it will be some time before we get a read on just the extent of the damage.

On the transit front - the MTA is shutdown along with PATH, NJ Transit, Amtrak, airports (10,000 flights canceled nationwide), and it may be several days before we get some limited transit restored.

Oh, and there are now reports of a levee failure on the Hackensack River from Hackensack to Carlstadt with water evacuations underway.

59 Obdicut  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 4:31:11am

re: #53 Sheila Broflovski

It must be so cool to live in a house that old! My house was built in 1968.

The weirdest part about it is the basement. It's an 'open-stone' earth basement, which basically means it doesn't flood because the water just flows out of it. It's built on an angle to help that. It makes for a very musty and dank basement, but it never floods.

The house itself got covered in aluminum siding a long time ago, so it's really not that much to look at, but inside the living room has a great floor, just big planks of local wood close-fitted. And a nice colonial-era fireplace. And the view from my dad's study is gorgeous. It really was built in a very nice location.

60 Shropshire_Slasher  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 4:31:34am

Can you send me a picture of your outfit Obdicut?! It's for reasearch.

61 Obdicut  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 4:34:26am

re: #60 Shropshire_Slasher

Can you send me a picture of your outfit Obdicut?! It's for reasearch.

I really make one of the most unconvincing women ever. It's all fine until you get to the neck, as long as you like your women well-muscled. But my jaw is hard to reconcile with ideas of femininity, being inherited from the Scandinavian side of the ancestry, showing why Swedes and Icelanders were called "Blockhead".

62 Decatur Deb  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 4:37:00am

re: #59 Obdicut

The weirdest part about it is the basement. It's an 'open-stone' earth basement, which basically means it doesn't flood because the water just flows out of it. It's built on an angle to help that. It makes for a very musty and dank basement, but it never floods.

The house itself got covered in aluminum siding a long time ago, so it's really not that much to look at, but inside the living room has a great floor, just big planks of local wood close-fitted. And a nice colonial-era fireplace. And the view from my dad's study is gorgeous. It really was built in a very nice location.

Aluminum siding is great. You don't have to wear the foil hat if it's built properly. (People always forget to bond the quarter-wave filter over the chimney-pot.)

63 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 4:37:12am

At least 10 MTA subway tunnels are flooded out; Brooklyn Battery, Holland, and Queens Midtown Tunnels have flooding. Rail yards are flooded. Bus depots are flooded. Equipment damaged or destroyed.

For the MTA alone, we're probably talking a billion dollars in damage (recall that it cost hundreds of millions to repair/replace Exchange Place to WTC tunnel after it was flooded due to firefighting and water main leaks following 9/11). Multiply that exponentially and you begin to get an idea of the costs and logistics involved.

You have at least a dozen subway lines affected; the MTA moves more than 5 million people daily.

President Obama has declared NY/NJ a major disaster area (freeing up funds/resources for cleanup).

PSEG reporting 1 million without power (3 million total in NJ without power).

64 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 4:39:11am

Airports up and down East Coast closed or with massive cancellations - from DC to Boston and all the way up to Buffalo and Albany.

[Link: flightaware.com...]

65 Obdicut  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 4:39:56am

re: #63 lawhawk

Hopefully when they repair it they can do what retrofitting they can to avoid this in the future, because this flooding is going to become a regular event, even if it doesn't reach this degree again soon.

66 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 4:40:49am

My son is out of town in Israel and Russian Federation, leaving my daughter-in-law at home with a house full of screaming kids. Yesterday they baked enough fancy cupcakes to supply several evacuation shelters.

67 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 4:42:11am

re: #65 Obdicut

Not sure what they'll try to do. To get the system up and running is top concern; putting in upgrades to prevent future probs is probably down on the list of things to do (and it would take longer to design/implement).

This might be an opportunity to upgrade signal systems, but I'm thinking that they're simply going to replace with like-kind equipment.

68 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 4:42:25am
69 Decatur Deb  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 4:43:02am

re: #65 Obdicut

Hopefully when they repair it they can do what retrofitting they can to avoid this in the future, because this flooding is going to become a regular event, even if it doesn't reach this degree again soon.

The Venetians can show them the way, though I doubt NY can achieve the levels of corruption needed.

Moses Project
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

70 Obdicut  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 4:43:37am

Ah crap, just read this:

-- One person was killed and two suffered injuries that weren't life-threatening after a large tree fell on them in Mansfield, according to a statement from Connecticut State Police.

That is, of course, where my parents live.

Come on guys, call. (They're keeping their phones off to conserve battery power except when they actually call.)

71 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 4:44:47am

re: #69 Decatur Deb

There have been some initial research done about installing flood gates to NY harbor, but doubt those discussions will get too far. It would protect NY Harbor and Manhattan, but outer boroughs would still be screwed.

72 Obdicut  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 4:45:04am

re: #69 Decatur Deb

As in all things hydrological, we should follow the dutch. Would be very appropriate, given that this is New Amsterdam.


[Link: science.howstuffworks.com...]

73 Obdicut  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 4:46:36am

re: #71 lawhawk

Yeah, actually the levee system wouldn't work, given that we're really right on the ocean. Still, this problem is not going to go away, and the 'nice' thing about the magnitude of the disaster is it makes it easier to argue for some serious spending to prevent future problems.

74 AK-47%  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 4:47:23am

re: #73 Obdicut

Yeah, actually the levee system wouldn't work, given that we're really right on the ocean. Still, this problem is not going to go away, and the 'nice' thing about the magnitude of the disaster is it makes it easier to argue for some serious spending to prevent future problems.

It will be discussed for about two weeks and then be quietly shelved until the next disaster hits.

75 Decatur Deb  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 4:47:36am

re: #70 Obdicut

Ah crap, just read this:

That is, of course, where my parents live.

Come on guys, call. (They're keeping their phones off to conserve battery power except when they actually call.)

If there were a tragedy, your family would be among the first to get commo. Bad news travels fast.

("Good news never travels by helicopter."--Air ambulance motto)

76 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 4:48:40am

re: #71 lawhawk

The idea Jeff Master's had been talking about was a system with dikes at Throg's Neck, Verranzo Narrows, and near Perth Amboy.

Which would save the Bronx and parts of the outlying boroughs.

77 Obdicut  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 4:49:14am

re: #75 Decatur Deb

It's a college town. The odds against it being them are very high, especially since the news story would have said 'tree hit a house' if it'd been them, probably. Still. One worries.

My dad is about to turn 70. I don't just worry about the environment getting him, but his dicey ticker giving out as he tries to nail plywood across a gaping window. This is my biggest sign of getting older-- worrying more about my parents.

78 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 4:50:17am

re: #73 Obdicut

Yup. They'll have to once again reconsider construction and development along barrier islands (and we'll be hearing about the massive damage to them in coming hours). It's a discussion we need to have - especially in conjunction with NFIP and hurricane insurance.

79 Obdicut  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 4:52:32am

Alright. I've actually found the storm inspiring, so I'm going to go get some writing done.

Hurricane fiction. I bet it's a phenomenon. People stuck at home, with lots of emotions roiled up. Be interesting to put out a collection of work written during the hurricane, see if any patterns emerge.

80 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 4:53:24am

re: #76 ProGunLiberal

Those systems would protect NY harbor. It wouldn't do anything for people on the South facing sides of Staten Island, Brooklyn, Queens, or the East side of Bronx or north side of Queens. And it does nothing for the rest of Long Island.

It would prevent catastrophic flooding in Manhattan and along the Hudson/East River and into Raritan Bay plus the back bays. That's worth something and worth discussing but it's not a cureall.

81 Shropshire_Slasher  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 4:53:45am

Here is my Honey_boo-boo outfit
[Link: www.nypost.com...]
/

82 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 4:54:34am

re: #43 Decatur Deb

More FDNY union thugs.

At 1:30 in that vid the fire engine has TONKA on the front bumper, didn't notice that before. "Big Boys Toys" indeed, lol.

83 Decatur Deb  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 4:55:12am

re: #79 Obdicut

Alright. I've actually found the storm inspiring, so I'm going to go get some writing done.

Hurricane fiction. I bet it's a phenomenon. People stuck at home, with lots of emotions roiled up. Be interesting to put out a collection of work written during the hurricane, see if any patterns emerge.

Frankenstein--The Modern Prometheus

84 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 4:58:55am
85 AK-47%  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 5:01:35am

re: #84 lawhawk

Gov. Christie: Obama Deserves 'Great Credit' For Storm Response

True Republicans want Obama to fail at everything, even emergency response...what's the lives of a few Blue Staters when the welfare of the entire nation is at stake?

86 Decatur Deb  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 5:02:30am

re: #84 lawhawk

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As obnoxious as Christie can be, we could actually run a political system with enough of us and not too many of him. It's not going to happen.

87 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 5:05:06am

I think everyone who follows @BryanJFischer has to be doing it for teh LULZ. That dumbass tweets the most stupid shit I have ever seen.

88 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 5:05:11am
89 Decatur Deb  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 5:08:18am

Did the Leaning Crane of 57th Street make it through the night?

90 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 5:08:20am

re: #20 freetoken

Last night I posted a section of Gorecki's Symphony № 3 (`Symphony of Sorrowful Songs`), for soprano and orchestra.

From the Wikipedia article:

The excerpt I posted last night was not from the hit release, but I liked it so much I dug up the hit version, and here it is:

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The recording is at a low volume, so you might need to turn it up.

This seems like a very interesting piece of contemporary music. I think I'll download it to listen to later when I can give it the attention it deserves. Thank you for bringing it to my attention. His work should fit in well with the rest of the more modern composers I have - Kernis, Adams, Britten, etc.

91 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 5:08:36am

Massive fire in Breezy Point (Rockaways - a barrier island just south of Brooklyn) has destroyed 50+ homes; flooding had limited fire response.

92 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 5:09:23am

re: #89 Decatur Deb

Yeah, it's hanging on. DOB and FDNY/NYPD are at the scene trying to evaluate and see about securing or taking it down.

93 Shropshire_Slasher  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 5:09:34am

B&W pics from the storms of 1938 and 1954 in the northeast.
[Link: www.timesunion.com...]

94 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 5:12:09am

re: #68 Sheila Broflovski

Wingnuts clutching pearls over another pro-Obama video. (I can't watch it here)

Should be labeled *NSFW Language* (motherf**ker)
Also is genuinely unfunny and obnoxious, Michael Moore was obviously aiming for a "camp" spoof quality but completely missed it, by a lot. I think that is a horrible ad and I don't even have the excuse of being a Republican.

95 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 5:12:19am

NYC update:

Utilities

To report a loss of electric service, contact Con Edison at 1-800-75-CONED (26633) or online at [Link: www.coned.com....]
Con Edison is responding to power outages in the Woodrow, Wainwright, and Fresh Kills sections of Staten Island.
Con Edison is responding to power outages from East 39th Street to the lower tip of Manhattan.
Con Edison will begin the process of shutting off electrical service to a portion of Lower Manhattan for quicker restoration after Hurricane Sandy passes. Read Con Ed's press release (in PDF).

Road, Bridge, & Tunnel Closures

The following bridges and tunnels are closed: Henry Hudson, Throgs Neck, Bronx-Whitestone, Verrazano Narrows, Marine Parkway - Gil Hodges, Cross Bay Veterans Memorial, Brooklyn, Manhattan, Williamsburg, Joseph P. Addabbo Memorial, Ed Koch Queensboro, Manhattan, Outerbridge Crossing, Bayonne, Holland, and the Hugh Carey (formerly Brooklyn-Battery).
The George Washington Bridge is closed.
The FDR Drive is closed from East 155 Street to the Battery.
The Tappan Zee Bridge is closed.

Transit

Alternative Side Parking (ASP) regulations and parking meter rules are suspended on Tuesday, 10/30, due to weather conditions. Learn more.
All MTA subway, commuter rail, and bus service is suspended citywide. Currently, there is no estimated time for service restoration. Visit mta.info for further details.
Staten Island Ferry service is suspended until further notice.
East River Ferry Service is suspended for Tuesday, 10/30. Learn more.
NJ Transit has implemented a gradual system-wide shutdown of all bus, rail, light rail, and Access Link service. Learn more.
All PATH train service and stations have shut down. Learn more.
Most Amtrak service in the Northeast remains suspended on Tuesday, 10/30. Learn more.

Schools/Colleges

All NYC Public Schools are closed Tuesday, October 30, 2012. Learn more.
All City University of New York (CUNY) Colleges are officially closed Tuesday, October 30 and all classes are cancelled. Learn more.

Miscellaneous

NY Courts are closed on Tuesday, October 30, due to weather conditions.
City parks, playgrounds, and beaches are closed. Surfing is prohibited at all beaches throughout the course of the storm.
All HHC (public hospital) outpatient clinic appointments and elective surgeries scheduled for 10/30 are cancelled. Patients with appointments for those services for 10/31 should call to confirm. All HHC hospitals, emergency rooms, and nursing homes will remain open throughout the duration of the storm.

96 Decatur Deb  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 5:14:27am

re: #92 lawhawk

Yeah, it's hanging on. DOB and FDNY/NYPD are at the scene trying to evaluate and see about securing or taking it down.

Probably cut it in small sections and lower or fly them out.

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97 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 5:18:05am

My mom's MSN Live Messenger Home page is asking the question "Could Sandy Postpone the Nov. 6 Election?"

I don't think that is possible, but.....

98 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 5:19:58am

re: #97 ProGunLiberal

My mom's MSN Live Messenger Home page is asking the question "Could Sandy Postpone the Nov. 6 Election?"

I don't think that is possible, but.....

Wingnut outrage/conspiracy to begin:

Obama will use Sandy to cancel the election and proclaim himself President For Life!

(They were saying the same stuff about Clinton during the 2000 election recounting.)

99 AK-47%  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 5:20:33am

re: #94 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You

Should be labeled *NSFW Language* (motherf**ker)
Also is genuinely unfunny and obnoxious, Michael Moore was obviously aiming for a "camp" spoof quality but completely missed it, by a lot. I think that is a horrible ad and I don't even have the excuse of being a Republican.

I likewise, and this will be thrown back in our faces as being totally representative of centrist or progressive thinking.

100 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 5:21:06am

Worried about Ohio and voting. Cleveland is out of power, and that seems to be what carried the state in 2008.

Kasich could decide to go as scheduled, with Cleveland having depressed turnout, and swinging the state Red.

101 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 5:21:35am

re: #99 AK-47%

I likewise, and this will be thrown back in our faces as being totally representative of centrist or progressive thinking.

Thanks for the warning, will not watch when I get home.

102 Shropshire_Slasher  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 5:22:19am

This country needs more heroes.
[Link: www.timesunion.com...]

103 Shropshire_Slasher  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 5:23:40am

Did those old voting machines need to be plugged in?!
/

104 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 5:24:03am

re: #97 ProGunLiberal

My mom's MSN Live Messenger Home page is asking the question "Could Sandy Postpone the Nov. 6 Election?"

I don't think that is possible, but.....

More media hype, the RWNJs are already making "fraud" noises too. With the election still a full week away I don't see any reason why it would have to be postponed. The damage simply isn't bad enough to warrant it.

We can't hold up a national election because the subways in New York city aren't working.

105 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 5:37:21am

re: #100 ProGunLiberal

Worried about Ohio and voting. Cleveland is out of power, and that seems to be what carried the state in 2008.

Kasich could decide to go as scheduled, with Cleveland having depressed turnout, and swinging the state Red.

Pretty sure they will have that fixed before election day, although it will cut down on how much early voting is available for sure.

People are sick to death of this campaign, on both sides, they just want it over with. If anyone official is stupid enough to say anything about postponing the election (god forbid) they are going to catch one hell of a tidal wave of negative backlash.

That would also be a way to lose the election...

106 AK-47%  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 5:43:39am

I think there is a case for establishing an objective standard for postponing an election (that x percent of the the popultion is in a disaster area, for example) but otherwise we gotta go through with this. Even the Civil War did not stop the election in 1864.

107 garhighway  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 5:46:33am

re: #58 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the battered but not beaten NYC metro area. Daylight is revealing quite the scene of devastation across the NYC metro area. Millions are without power (we thankfully avoided losing power by inches - a power line on the block arced a few times but never gave out) and it may be a week or more before power is restored.

Flooding has displaced hundreds of thousands from New Jersey through Long Island and Connecticut and it will be some time before we get a read on just the extent of the damage.

On the transit front - the MTA is shutdown along with PATH, NJ Transit, Amtrak, airports (10,000 flights canceled nationwide), and it may be several days before we get some limited transit restored.

Oh, and there are now reports of a levee failure on the Hackensack River from Hackensack to Carlstadt with water evacuations underway.

Greetings from the Upper West Side. It got crazy windy here, with my building, a six-story, 100 year old masonry building, swaying, but that was it.

I work downtown, and it is unclear to me how long it will take to make downtown usable: with the subway tunnels flooded, mass transit is KO'd for now. I suspect I am not heading down there until next week at best.

We're going to go out for a walk later to see what the West Side Hwy and 79th street boat basin look like, and we'll let you all know what we see.

108 garhighway  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 5:48:28am

re: #106 AK-47%

I think there is a case for establishing an objective standard for postponing an election (that x percent of the the popultion is in a disaster area, for example) but otherwise we gotta go through with this. Even the Civil War did not stop the election in 1864.

The local elections here in NYC were postponed due to 9/11. That was supposed to be a local election day. Rudy had graciously offered to stay in office past his term, but Bloomberg told him to shove off.

109 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 5:48:47am

re: #89 Decatur Deb

Did the Leaning Crane of 57th Street make it through the night?

Still there.

110 Mattand  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 5:54:19am

South Jersey checking in. According to the Philadelphia Inquirer, 3 million are without power in the Delaware Valley region. Mass transit is still off-line, but the bridges are open.

It looks like damage at the shore could hit billions of dollars. There's a 80 foot chunk of the Boardwalk at New Hampshire Ave that tore away, and it sounds like most of the barrier islands are inundated.

If there's a plus in all of this, I'm not reading about any loss of life so far, at least around here. Hopefully, that benchmark will maintain.

Personally, we and most friends and family didn't lose power or suffer too much damge. We got really, really lucky.

111 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 6:02:45am

My neighbor's house lost quite a bit of siding.
Just noticed that.

112 Interesting Times  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 6:14:48am

Dog help me, I may be starting to like this guy:

113 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 6:18:04am

re: #112 Interesting Times

Christie is also taking aim at the Atlantic City mayor, who apparently didn't heed advice to evacuate people from the city and instead rebuffed efforts by the state/county to get them off the island.

BTW, Channel 11 is showing a tanker that grounded on Staten Island - it was forced ashore by the storm surge. Looks like a 75-100 foot long ship.

114 AK-47%  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 6:20:54am

re: #112 Interesting Times

Dog help me, I may be starting to like this guy:

Republican NJ Gov Christie says "couldn't care less" whether Romney visits

Compared to the rest of the GOP he is quite likeable, but is also still a Republican at heart.

115 Interesting Times  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 6:21:31am

Just saw this quote on FB - I was thinking something very similiar myself, at least as far as the first part goes:

Dear Meteorologists, giving tropical storms happy soft names undermines the severity of their consequences. From now on please use the names of Wu Tang members for the sake of a dramatic impact.

116 Mattand  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 6:22:48am

re: #112 Interesting Times

re: #113 lawhawk

Watching Christie over the last 24 hours has been like watching Jekyll and Hyde. He was big enough (no fat jokes, please) to praise Obama for the all the help the POTUS is offering, yet took valuable time during a presser to admonish/taunt people who ignored the evac.

Never a dull moment with him, that's for sure.

117 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 6:23:18am

re: #115 Interesting Times

Heh.

118 AK-47%  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 6:23:28am

But really, if the GOP had been able to attract Christie to run for President and nominated him, this could have been their "Perfect Storm" in a political sense...

It was the flooding on the river Elbe in Germany in 2001 that saved Chancellor Schröders bacon in a very close election (his coalition won 303 out of 600 seats)

119 AK-47%  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 6:24:29am

re: #115 Interesting Times

Just saw this quote on FB - I was thinking something very similiar myself, at least as far as the first part goes:

"Dear Meteorologists, giving tropical storms happy soft names undermines the severity of their consequences. From now on please use the names of Wu Tang members for the sake of a dramatic impact."

Lotsa things you can name them after, old girlfriends, for example...

120 Charleston Chew  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 6:25:28am

re: #115 Interesting Times

Just saw this quote on FB - I was thinking something very similiar myself, at least as far as the first part goes:

"Tropical storm Ghostface Killah made landfall today..."

121 Mattand  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 6:25:38am

re: #119 AK-47%

"Dear Meteorologists, giving tropical storms happy soft names undermines the severity of their consequences. From now on please use the names of Wu Tang members for the sake of a dramatic impact."

Lotsa things you can name them after, old girlfriends, for example...

Hurricane Voldemort.

Tropical Storm Hans Gruber.

Tropical Depression Jar Jar.

122 PhillyPretzel  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 6:27:04am

If the Republicans had any sense they would let Christie run rather than "Mittens." I am not thrilled at his view of PBS (he "killed" NJS) but he is much better than said presidential nominee for the GOP.

123 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 6:27:07am

re: #121 Mattand

Hurricane Mr. Blonde
Hurricane Mr. Pink
Hurricane Marcellus Wallace
Hurricane Butch

124 CuriousLurker  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 6:27:21am

re: #112 Interesting Times

Dog help me, I may be starting to like this guy:

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Heh. Saw you mention him (in the Spy), so I thought I'd drop in and leave this video of his appearance on Morning Joe earlier this morning. Lots of bad news. He looks beat; he's earning his pay this week.

125 Mattand  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 6:27:40am

re: #123 lawhawk

Hurricane Mr. Blonde
Hurricane Mr. Pink
Hurricane Marcellus Wallace
Hurricane Butch

Hurricane The Wolf.

126 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 6:28:13am

re: #125 Mattand

Hurricane The Wolf.

Hurricane Donald Trump's Hair

127 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 6:28:37am

Water rescues underway in Moonachie/Carlstadt/Little Ferry b/c of levee failure along Hackensack River.

128 Charleston Chew  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 6:29:02am

Thanks from MA to the Mid-Atlantic states for taking the brunt of the storm. Nothing major here except that the Fall Foliage Season is definitely over.

129 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 6:29:02am

re: #125 Mattand

Shit, that's all you had to say.

130 Mattand  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 6:31:35am

Anyone hear how West Virginia made out? They're kind of the forgotten state in all of this. Last I heard they were supposed to get 2 feet of snow?

131 Decatur Deb  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 6:32:22am

re: #128 Charleston Chew

Thanks from MA to the Mid-Atlantic states for taking the brunt of the storm. Nothing major here except that the Fall Foliage Season is definitely over.

We are feeling the system's effects in Lower Alabama--wind, lows in the 30's.

132 Tigger2  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 6:32:35am

re: #124 CuriousLurker

Heh. Saw you mention him (in the Spy), so I thought I'd drop in and leave this video of his appearance on Morning Joe earlier this morning. Lots of bad news. He looks beat; he's earning his pay this week.

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There is nothing like two major storms in two years as a governor to knock some of the wingnut out of ya.

133 AK-47%  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 6:32:52am

re: #122 PhillyPretzel

If the Republicans had any sense they would let Christie run rather than "Mittens." I am not thrilled at his view of PBS (he "killed" NJS) but he is much better than said presidential nominee for the GOP.

Christie is the one who had enough sense not to get near the 2012 campaign. Expect to see and hear more from him in 2016, though...

134 GunstarGreen  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 6:32:54am

re: #45 Sheila Broflovski

Let me guess. There were "SLURS" scratched on his face, in mysterious backwards writing.

God, you just had to remind me of that, didn't you?

Completely unhinged, like a serpent's jaw. Anything to smear Democrats, no matter the cost. That this sort of political warfare is tolerated is a testament to this country's devotion to freedom of expression.

135 Mattand  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 6:33:16am

re: #131 Decatur Deb

We are feeling the system's effects in Lower Alabama--wind, lows in the 30's.

Wow. It's 46° here in the Philly region.

136 Joanne  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 6:35:30am

re: #85 AK-47%

True Republicans want Obama to fail at everything, even emergency response...what's the lives of a few Blue Staters when the welfare of the entire nation is at stake?

Hey, let's be honest here. They wouldn't care if it was Red Staters dying...as long as the Muslim communist is defeated.

On a personal note, We've had some damage here (tree down in the backyard, fence down, siding blown off, power surges/outages - thankfully 3G has been stable) and I'm under a severe wind advisory all day. It's scary HERE! And I'm an hour north of Detroit. I can't imagine NY/NJ. My prayers and my heart go out to everyone affected.

137 Mattand  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 6:35:39am

West VA news here:

[Link: thelede.blogs.nytimes.com...]

Stay safe and warm, folks.

138 Interesting Times  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 6:35:59am

Meghan McCain just RT'd this charming response to her earlier climate change tweet:

Am I wrong for wanting to waterboard these people with NYC subway flood sludge?

139 Decatur Deb  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 6:36:07am

re: #133 AK-47%

Christie is the one who had enough sense not to get near the 2012 campaign. Expect to see and hear more from him in 2016, though...

If he knocks off a couple hundred pounds, he'd make a sane GOP ticket. If there will ever again be one.

140 PhillyPretzel  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 6:36:27am

re: #130 Mattand

Charleston WVA weather: [Link: www.erh.noaa.gov...]

142 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 6:37:38am

re: #138 Interesting Times

Naw.... tell 'em to go jump in the Gowanus. Or Newtown Creek. Either will do nicely.

143 Tigger2  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 6:38:14am

re: #138 Interesting Times

Meghan McCain just RT'd this charming response to her earlier climate change tweet:

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Am I wrong for wanting to waterboard these people with NYC subway flood sludge?

Harrys tweet almost make me wish I did tweet so I could tell him what I think of him, his comment is disgusting.

144 AK-47%  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 6:38:34am

re: #139 Decatur Deb

If he knocks off a couple hundred pounds, he'd make a sane GOP ticket. If there will ever again be one.

He needs to lose a few pounds yes, but the main reason is did not run is that he is not willing to go full Fischer/Norquist fundamentalist on key issues, so he knows he will never get the nomination.

145 Decatur Deb  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 6:40:38am

re: #144 AK-47%

He needs to lose a few pounds yes, but the main reason is did not run is that he is not willing to go full Fischer/Norquist fundamentalist on key issues, so he knows he will never get the nomination.

If the Prez wins, they will have to go sane or go out of business. Lots of popcorn either way.

146 Tigger2  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 6:40:42am

re: #144 AK-47%

He needs to lose a few pounds yes, but the main reason is did not run is that he is not willing to go full Fischer/Norquist fundamentalist on key issues, so he knows he will never get the nomination.

I hate to say it but the country would be better off if these two Fischer/Norquist were ran out of the country.

147 Decatur Deb  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 6:41:21am

re: #146 Tigger2

I hate to say it but the country would be better off if these two Fischer/Norquist were ran out of the country.

They are only a symptom.

148 GunstarGreen  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 6:41:52am

re: #139 Decatur Deb

If he knocks off a couple hundred pounds, he'd make a sane GOP ticket. If there will ever again be one.

There won't be. The lesson that the GOP apparatus will take away from all of this is that eight solid years of completely batshit, insanely bigoted rhetoric wasn't enough to defeat their opponent, so next time they need to do it even harder.

149 Decatur Deb  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 6:42:30am

re: #148 GunstarGreen

There won't be. The lesson that the GOP apparatus will take away from all of this is that eight solid years of completely batshit, insanely bigoted rhetoric wasn't enough to defeat their opponent, so next time they need to do it even harder.

The Palin Prescription.

150 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 6:42:35am

re: #121 Mattand

Hurricane Voldemort.

Tropical Storm Hans Gruber.

Tropical Depression Jar Jar.

Any storm named after Jar Jar Binks would be nuked by the US. The president would be under irresistible public pressure to launch a nuke.

//

151 Tigger2  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 6:43:19am

re: #147 Decatur Deb

They are only a symptom.

You have to start someplace.

152 CuriousLurker  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 6:44:21am

From the transcript of the Christie video in my #124 above (emphasis mine):

Mike Barnacle: Governor, there is no ideology in a storm like this. Tell us about your conversations with the President yesterday.

Gov. Christie: The President's been great, Mike, I have to tell you, and I'm sorry, Joe, I was calling you Mike, it was hard to hear through here. You know, the President's been great. I spoke to him three times yesterday, he called me for the last time at midnight last night asked me what I needed and I said if you could expedite the major disaster exploration without the major FEMA mumbo jumbo. I got a call from FEMA at 2:00 a.m. For me to answer a couple of questions. The President has been all over this and deserves great credit. I've been on the phone with him, like I said personally three times, he gave me his number at the White House, told me to call him if I needed anything and he absolutely means it.

Mike Barnacle: That's great.

Gov. Christie: It's been very good. It's been very good working with the President, and his administration has been coordinating with us great, it's been wonderful.

"FEMA mumbo jumbo", classic Christie. LOL

The Republicans are gonna be sooo pissed at him (I'm pretty sure he doesn't care).

153 Mattand  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 6:45:01am

re: #144 AK-47%

He needs to lose a few pounds yes, but the main reason is did not run is that he is not willing to go full Fischer/Norquist fundamentalist on key issues, so he knows he will never get the nomination.

Christie will pander if necessary. He was asked a year or two ago about the creationism-as-science issue, and basically kicked down the curb to the locals, while insulting the reporter in the process.

Plus, he's been pushing an income tax cut here while being vague on how to pay for it (cough TYPICAL REPUBLICAN BULLSHIT cough).

He knows what it will take to get elected POTUS. I can easily see him going Tea Bagger if he thinks it will get him the White House.

154 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 6:45:20am

re: #138 Interesting Times

Meghan McCain just RT'd this charming response to her earlier climate change tweet:

[Embedded content]

Am I wrong for wanting to waterboard these people with NYC subway flood sludge?

155 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 6:48:01am

Good morning lizards!

I hope everyone survived the worst of the storm. We lost power 4 times but get it back last night. My babysitter up the street has been without power since 9:00 last night. /all in all not so bad. I left a little while ago and it was snowing.

156 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 6:48:43am

re: #152 CuriousLurker

From the transcript of the Christie video in my #124 above (emphasis mine):

"FEMA mumbo jumbo", classic Christie. LOL

The Republicans are gonna be sooo pissed at him (I'm pretty sure he doesn't care).

No, because they need Christie to provide Mitt Romney with a key photo-op later this week, so fire will be held.

157 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 6:48:52am
158 Obdicut  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 6:49:38am

re: #152 CuriousLurker

From the transcript of the Christie video in my #124 above (emphasis mine):

"FEMA mumbo jumbo", classic Christie. LOL

The Republicans are gonna be sooo pissed at him (I'm pretty sure he doesn't care).

I think that Christie may have decided staying an important governor of an important state is better than running for president in 2016. I think he may be planning on 2020, by which time who knows what party he'll be in.

159 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 6:50:17am

WOW...look at these pictures...

Hurricane Sandy: After Landfall

161 Obdicut  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 6:52:39am

Oh, and my parents are fine. Lost power, probably will have it off for a week, but no damage to the house. They're going to try to drive up to their place in Boston, which has power, depending on whether they can make it through the roads.

162 CuriousLurker  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 6:53:01am

re: #156 Dark_Falcon

No, because they need Christie to provide Mitt Romney with a key photo-op later this week, so fire will be held.

Did you see Interesting Times' #112? I think he's pretty stressed right now and just doesn't give a shit about the politics of it all (for the moment anyway).

163 RadicalModerate  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 6:53:25am

Someone needs to explain to the geniuses over at WorldNetDaily that it isn't in their best interests to brag about the fact that they committed wire fraud and violated election donation laws when attempting a "gotcha" campaign.

Sorry about the direct link, no cache yet available for the article.

[Link: www.wnd.com...]

WASHINGTON – Using a Pakistani Internet Protocol and proxy server, a disposable credit card and a fake address, “Osama bin Laden” has successfully donated twice to Barack Obama’s presidential re-election campaign.

The “Bin Laden” donations, actually made by WND staff, included a listed occupation of “deceased terror chief” and a stated employer of “al-Qaida.”

164 CuriousLurker  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 6:54:34am

re: #158 Obdicut

I think that Christie may have decided staying an important governor of an important state is better than running for president in 2016. I think he may be planning on 2020, by which time who knows what party he'll be in.

You may be onto something there.

re: #161 Obdicut

Oh, and my parents are fine. Lost power, probably will have it off for a week, but no damage to the house. They're going to try to drive up to their place in Boston, which has power, depending on whether they can make it through the roads.

Glad to hear it.

165 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 6:54:59am

re: #158 Obdicut

I think that Christie may have decided staying an important governor of an important state is better than running for president in 2016. I think he may be planning on 2020, by which time who knows what party he'll be in.

He's up for reelection next year, so he's not going to go hard after Obama right now. Chris Christie's main focus as governor of New Jersey has been New Jersey, not national politics. He knows that his response to Hurricane Sandy may prove the deciding factor in whether he gets a second term, so he's not going risk things not getting done because of a contrived political spat. Christie's not the kind of asshole who would hurt New Jersey just to DERP at Barack Obama. And honestly, Mitt Romney should be glad Christie isn't that kind, because it would have gone badly for the GOP if Christie had been an asshole.

166 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 6:55:33am

re: #144 AK-47%

He needs to lose a few pounds yes, but the main reason is did not run is that he is not willing to go full Fischer/Norquist fundamentalist on key issues, so he knows he will never get the nomination.

I'm not so sure. He's kissed the Koch's asses an awful lot and his actual policy actions are quite far to the right as well. It's simple tactics to be the one who can appear "sane" against Santorum next time even though the practical effect of either in the White House is the same level of national devastation.

167 darthstar  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 6:57:03am

Mornin' everyone. Hopefully everyone is waking up to relatively minor storm damage on the east coast. Looks like Sandy was every bit as nasty as the bathroom walls at NOAA promised she'd be. On the upside, rebuilding creates jobs and there are people who need work. The other good news is that President Obama will give the states whatever they ask for, while his opponent will be staying out of the way and being 'non-political' by hosting 'storm-relief events' in Ohio, Iowa, and Wisconsin where his poll numbers were hit worst by Sandy's reminder that he wants to gut FEMA.

168 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 6:57:24am

re: #163 RadicalModerate

Someone needs to explain to the geniuses over at WorldNetDaily that it isn't in their best interests to brag about the fact that they committed wire fraud and violated election donation laws when attempting a "gotcha" campaign.

Sorry about the direct link, no cache yet available for the article.

[Link:

Pamela bragged about donating $2 as "Don Corleone" months ago. This shit is so lame.

169 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 6:57:29am

Bloomberg and Christie are going to be holding pressers at the top of the hour. Stay tuned....

170 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 6:58:47am

re: #116 Mattand

re: #113 lawhawk

Watching Christie over the last 24 hours has been like watching Jekyll and Hyde. He was big enough (no fat jokes, please) to praise Obama for the all the help the POTUS is offering, yet took valuable time during a presser to admonish/taunt people who ignored the evac.

Never a dull moment with him, that's for sure.

He went after the mayor of Atlantic City, who IMO deserved the attack. Unlike George W. Bush, Chris Christie knows that when someone is fucking up by the numbers, the top executive needs to point out that said person is fucking up by the numbers.

171 Decatur Deb  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:00:40am

re: #153 Mattand

..snip..
He knows what it will take to get elected POTUS. I can easily see him going Tea Bagger if he thinks it will get him the White House.

Yeah, but he might be the one with the mouth and the stones to jolt them back to reality if Romney tanks. I'd hate see it, but love to watch it.

172 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:01:05am

re: #170 Dark_Falcon

The local government in Atlantic City is a complete joke with state and fed investigations into corruption and a possible state takeover b/c of financial troubles. The AC mayor apparently rebuffed efforts to evacuate to the mainland. Any scorn to the AC mayor is deserved.

173 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:01:35am

TZB and GSP have reopened to traffic, but people should stay off the roads.

174 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:02:00am

re: #163 RadicalModerate

Someone needs to explain to the geniuses over at WorldNetDaily that it isn't in their best interests to brag about the fact that they committed wire fraud and violated election donation laws when attempting a "gotcha" campaign.

Sorry about the direct link, no cache yet available for the article.

[Link: www.wnd.com...]

Correct reply: WorldNetDaily should be shut down under the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) Act. They have serially committed these sorts of violations, and therefore may be regarded as an enterprise engaged in the ongoing violation of election laws for profit.

/I'm only half-serious, but it sounds fitting.

175 Decatur Deb  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:02:24am

re: #159 NJDhockeyfan

WOW...look at these pictures...

Hurricane Sandy: After Landfall

Great photos in there. "Cartwheel Girl" is the queen of NYC.

176 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:02:29am

Staten Island got hammered. Lots of flood/surge damage.

177 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:02:42am

My daughter's workplace finally announced that it will be closed today (considering that none of its employees can get to Midtown from Brooklyn)

178 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:03:30am

re: #154 Dark_Falcon

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Damn. This guy is a loser. He's still trolling Meghan.

179 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:04:14am

re: #173 lawhawk

TZB and GSP have reopened to traffic, but people should stay off the roads.

GSP is the Garden State Parkway, yes?

180 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:05:26am

re: #179 Dark_Falcon

Yes - it had been closed from the Southern end to exit 129. Considering that it's one of the major n/s routes through NJ, that's significant.

181 Tigger2  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:06:19am

re: #177 Sheila Broflovski

My daughter's workplace finally announced that it will be closed today (considering that none of its employees can get to Midtown from Brooklyn)

(considering that none of its employees can get to Midtown from Brooklyn)

That might be a good reason for them to be close today. lol

182 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:07:51am

re: #178 Gus

Damn. This guy is a loser. He's still trolling Meghan.

He's a classic misogynist, it seems to me. One of those men who simply does not like strong women and runs them down whenever possible.

183 darthstar  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:09:06am
184 makeitstop  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:09:55am
185 Tigger2  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:10:13am

re: #182 Dark_Falcon

He's a classic misogynist, it seems to me. One of those men who simply does not like strong women and runs them down whenever possible.

Some people are just punks that think they are someone important. I hate those kinds of people.

186 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:10:30am

re: #175 Decatur Deb

Great photos in there. "Cartwheel Girl" is the queen of NYC.

And the shirtless guy is the horse.

187 AK-47%  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:10:56am

re: #166 William Barnett-Lewis

I'm not so sure. He's kissed the Koch's asses an awful lot and his actual policy actions are quite far to the right as well. It's simple tactics to be the one who can appear "sane" against Santorum next time even though the practical effect of either in the White House is the same level of national devastation.

He seems sane when compared to the other GOP candidates, but yes, he is still a Republican at heart.

188 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:11:03am

re: #182 Dark_Falcon

He's a classic misogynist, it seems to me. One of those men who simply does not like strong women and runs them down whenever possible.

True to form he finally brought up... wait for it... Benghazi! Seems to be a trend with these guys. Argumentum ad Benghazi. Besides being a misogynist he's also a douche bag.

189 alpuz  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:11:20am

re: #178 Gus

From his description:

I am an unabashed patriot, a sports fanatic, brutally honest, often vulgar, and I have no tolerance for stupidity. No apologies.

The guy who acts like a dumbass on the internets has 'no tolerance for stupidity,' and in classic wingnut style.. no apologies. Familiar.

190 Decatur Deb  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:11:43am

re: #186 NJDhockeyfan

And the shirtless guy is the horse.

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Dog time, BBL

191 Charleston Chew  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:12:23am

re: #145 Decatur Deb

If the Prez wins, they will have to go sane or go out of business. Lots of popcorn either way.

Unfortunately, I thought that in '06 and '08. But in '10 they gained seats by being more crazy than ever.

192 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:12:23am

re: #189 alpuz

From his description:

The guy who acts like a dumbass on the internets has 'no tolerance for stupidity,' and in classic wingnut style.. no apologies. Familiar.

If he has no tolerance for stupidity, how does he tolerate himself?

193 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:12:32am

Video of the tower crane at One57 failing:

The wind simply flipped the boom over on itself, causing it to crumple and fail. Treated the boom like a sail - once the wind caught it, looks like there was nothing to be done. It was lucky that it didn't collapse and fall right away.

194 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:12:33am

re: #189 alpuz

From his description:

The guy who acts like a dumbass on the internets has 'no tolerance for stupidity,' and in classic wingnut style.. no apologies. Familiar.

Yep. I got a kick out of his profile saying he's vulgar while complaining about people insulting him. Weird. He's just a kid though. So it seems. Dazed and confused.

195 darthstar  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:12:53am

re: #178 Gus

Damn. This guy is a loser. He's still trolling Meghan.

What do you expect from an "unabashed patriot" whose pic is obviously in a rent-a-tux at a relative's wedding where he was fourth groomsman because mom insisted.

196 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:13:50am

Gov. Christie presser underway. Currently 2.4 million without power - 2x the number from Irene.

197 darthstar  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:14:49am

re: #196 lawhawk

Gov. Christie presser underway. Currently 2.4 million without power - 2x the number from Irene.

198 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:14:57am

Full damage assessment may take 24-48 hours; power restoration may take longer than a week. Mutual support from utilities coming from all over country, and Canada.

199 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:15:34am

re: #198 lawhawk

Full damage assessment may take 24-48 hours; power restoration may take longer than a week. Mutual support from utilities coming from all over country, and Canada.

I gotta try to get a hold of my mother. She was fine last night.

200 alpuz  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:15:37am

re: #192 Dark_Falcon

Exactly.. welcome to the world of those witnessing the wingnut revolution from afar. Cognitive dissonance rules the day.

201 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:16:14am

Yeesh. I fell asleep and they were trolling Meghan for her climate change Tweet and woke up this morning and they're still trolling her. That's just freaky. They literally fear the concept. Fear, rage and hate.

202 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:16:51am

re: #192 Dark_Falcon

If he has no tolerance for stupidity, how does he tolerate himself?

Tweet him _that_ question ;)

203 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:16:56am

Christie to employers: unless you can identify safe route to work, keep your employees home.

Rail cars deposited on NJ Turnpike at Cartaret; Exit 10-13 - 7 feet debris field from surge. Washout at Exit 15 between 280 and NJ Turnpike.

204 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:18:20am
205 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:18:32am

Washouts on NJ Coast Line; problems on all lines, rail hubs at Hoboken, Secaucus and Newark damaged. Rail yard at Kearny surrounded by floodwaters.

Wastewater treatment facilities with operational issues.

206 garhighway  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:19:49am

re: #123 lawhawk

Hurricane Mr. Blonde
Hurricane Mr. Pink
Hurricane Marcellus Wallace
Hurricane Butch

Hurricane Zed.

207 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:20:10am

Hey what about the deficit and generational debt you keep talking about, Mitt?

208 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:20:12am

Gallup has some interesting stats that say early voting may proceed differently than thought. An excerpt:

Romney Leads Among Early Voters, Similar to His Likely Voter Lead

Thus far, early voters do not seem to be swaying the election toward either candidate.

Romney currently leads Obama 52% to 45% among voters who say they have already cast their ballots. However, that is comparable to Romney's 51% to 46% lead among all likely voters in Gallup's Oct. 22-28 tracking polling. At the same time, the race is tied at 49% among those who have not yet voted but still intend to vote early, suggesting these voters could cause the race to tighten. However, Romney leads 51% to 45% among the much larger group of voters who plan to vote on Election Day, Nov. 6.

2012 Candidate Preference According to Early Voting Status
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209 garhighway  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:20:55am

I like that Christie, in a crisis, leaves ideology behind and focuses on task.

210 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:21:54am

re: #206 garhighway

Hurricane Zed.

So now we're giving hurricanes Canadian names, eh? Not unfair, since Canada build Hurricanes during WWII using US Packard-Merlin engines.

211 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:23:06am

TV sez 6.2 million homes without power on the east coast.

212 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:23:41am
213 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:24:42am

Weird. Seeing this in the normal window for that Tweet:

Http/1.1 Service Unavailable

Video shows up in spy though.

214 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:25:11am
215 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:25:29am

Clarification on "levee" failure in Hackensack river; it was a natural berm - not a levee. The storm surge caused a failure and water rescues still underway.

216 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:25:38am

WTF Donald give it up already NOBODY GIVES A SHIT

217 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:27:04am

Unprecedented damage along Jersey coast. - Gov Christie

Expect a similar tale from Long Island and CT coast.

218 darthstar  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:27:17am

Hurricane Sandy drift

219 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:28:04am

re: #216 Sheila Broflovski

WTF Donald give it up already NOBODY GIVES A SHIT

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Is it wrong to want the casino king of Atlantic City dropped into AC floodwaters with only his hairpiece to aid him?

220 garhighway  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:28:37am

Christie is pretty impressive. But we learned with Rudy in 2008 that the GOP won't care: unless he eats his moderate social positions, he's unacceptable to the GOP primary electorate.

221 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:29:44am

re: #216 Sheila Broflovski

WTF Donald give it up already NOBODY GIVES A SHIT

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222 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:30:53am
223 PhillyPretzel  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:31:12am

re: #221 Gus

Excellent idea. Tell us what his response is.

224 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:31:22am
225 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:31:41am

re: #214 NJDhockeyfan

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wow

226 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:32:05am

re: #223 PhillyPretzel

Excellent idea. Tell us what his response is.

He won't respond. There are thousands and thousands of Tweets telling him to FOAD.

227 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:32:40am

re: #226 Sheila Broflovski

He won't respond. There are thousands and thousands of Tweets telling him to FOAD.

Yeah, pretty much. He's a thick head.

228 darthstar  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:34:13am
229 darthstar  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:35:09am

re: #224 Gus

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Man...dealing with rainbow damage is a bitch.

230 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:35:22am

The Koskids on Christie's thanks of the POTUS...

Vomitus piece of human flesh (1+ / 0-)
My guess is he will as for federal help. Romney said it when he said it was IMMORAL TO TAKE FEDERAL MONEY. Christie and his friend Donald Trump will now use Federal funds to get those casino's up and running of course with updated everything. Great time to remodel. What a way to get it all done on the tax payers.. Who are these screwballs who don't see these leaches on this country and support them.

by cbjim on Tue Oct 30, 2012 at 05:46:02 AM PDT

.............

He's building up credibility. (1+ / 0-)
So that later in the week, when he rips Obama for his inept handling of the crisis, he can say "as you know, at first I thanked Obama..."

by doc2 on Tue Oct 30, 2012 at 06:03:10 AM PDT

By then it will be too late (0+ / 0-)
for this obese human balloon to have any credibility.

OBAMA/BIDEN 2012! GOTV!

by Bunbun on Tue Oct 30, 2012 at 06:11:48 AM PDT

Progressive!

231 darthstar  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:36:30am
232 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:37:53am

re: #230 NJDhockeyfan

They are also outraged that Mitt is collecting donations for the Red Cross
Mitt Romney attends storm relief event. In Ohio. Sponsored by his campaign.

233 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:38:42am

WOW...this sucks.

234 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:39:00am

re: #232 Killgore Trout

They are also outraged that Mitt is collecting donations for the Red Cross
Mitt Romney attends storm relief event. In Ohio. Sponsored by his campaign.

You really want to start a squabble about this? OK. Well then. Romney was saying that paying for FEMA was effectively immoral and should be left to the states and even privatized. Any comment on this from you?

235 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:39:05am
236 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:39:14am

re: #232 Killgore Trout

They are also outraged that Mitt is collecting donations for the Red Cross
Mitt Romney attends storm relief event. In Ohio. Sponsored by his campaign.

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237 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:40:30am

re: #236 NJDhockeyfan

Page Not Found!

Oops sorry about that
[Link: www.dailykos.com...]

238 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:40:45am

From the Red Cross FAQ.

I would like to donate clothes, cars or other items to charity. Does the American Red Cross accept donated goods?

Unfortunately, due to logistical constraints the Red Cross does not accept or solicit individual donations or collections of items. Items such as collected food, used clothing and shoes must be sorted, cleaned, repackaged and transported which impedes the valuable resources of money, time, and personnel.

The Red Cross does accept bulk quantities of product and services when these items meet our service delivery needs. These donations typically come from manufacturers, suppliers, and/or distributors that can package the items in bulk, palletize them and transport them directly to Red Cross sites. Financial contributions allow the Red Cross to purchase exactly what is needed for a disaster relief operation. Monetary donations also enable the Red Cross to purchase relief supplies close to the disaster site which avoids delays and transportation costs in getting basic necessities to disaster victims. Because the affected community has generally experienced significant economic loss, purchasing relief supplies in or close to the disaster site also helps to stimulate the weakened local economy.

239 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:41:01am

I see. Use hurricane Sandy to whine about Daily Kos. Another morning at LGF. Zzzzzzzzzzzzz.

240 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:41:24am

I bet his stress level is pretty high.

241 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:43:15am
242 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:43:22am

re: #230 NJDhockeyfan

The Koskids on Christie's thanks of the POTUS...

Progressive!

Haters are gonna hate. Those who have decided the other side is pure evil will never give that other side any credit.

243 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:43:26am

It's lightly snowing at my house right now. Glad I don't live an hour west of here.

244 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:44:55am

People need to STFU and get out of the way of EMS responding to help those in need. Pundits, politicos, etc. And idiot bloggers/twitters can STFU if they're bloviating about this reaction or that reaction.

Christie is thinking about getting what's needed for millions of NJ residents who have been harmed by the storm. Millions without power. Power that might not be restored for weeks due to the unprecedented damage. SAR underway across the state including water rescues.

And the situation is probably the same across LI and CT shore areas.

The only thing worse than the storm is the reaction by the idiots to the storm.

BTW - getting those casinos reopened is actually quite important. The tax revenues from the casinos is critical to the state budget. It's a huge tourism hit - and the damage will harm tourism for years to come.

245 Decatur Deb  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:46:11am

Some idiot stole my Obama sign last night. In Alabama--what the hell for?
Trying to get the word to local websites that every time I buy a replacement, that's another five bucks in Obama's tip jar.

246 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:46:47am

NYC bridges are starting to reopen to traffic.

PATH however will probably be out for week to 10 days.

247 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:46:58am

re: #234 Gus

You really want to start a squabble about this? OK. Well then. Romney was saying that paying for FEMA was effectively immoral and should be left to the states and even privatized. Any comment on this from you?

No answer from "Killgore" or whatever his name is. I expected that.

248 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:47:11am

Time-lapse video capturing Sandy hitting the city from about noon yesterday until 9:30 a.m.

249 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:47:47am

re: #247 Gus

No answer from "Killgore" or whatever his name is. I expected that.

Give him time to land. He parachuted a long way.

250 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:48:36am
251 Kronocide  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:48:54am

re: #242 Dark_Falcon

Progressive!

Haters are gonna hate. Those who have decided the other side is pure evil will never give that other side any credit.

You win the Irony Award for today.

252 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:49:59am

If your troll post can be shot down in mere seconds...
You are doing it wrong.
;)

253 darthstar  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:50:43am

re: #237 Killgore Trout

Oops sorry about that
[Link: www.dailykos.com...]

254 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:50:59am

re: #252 Varek Raith

If your troll post can be shot down in mere seconds...
You are doing it wrong.
;)

Who? Me?

255 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:51:04am

re: #251 Kronocide

You win the Irony Award for today.

Ah, but I don't think the Democrats are pure evil and I inveighed against those same kind of haters going after Obama just yesterday, and I've done so numerous times. But if Barack Obama does not deserve that kind of hate, neither does Chris Christie.

256 Joanne  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:51:07am

re: #244 lawhawk

I am far from a Christie fan, he is too nasty for my midwestern tastes, and I am quite liberal, but he is handling this very well. I don't care what political flavor you are, taking care of the people under your purview is all that matters. Christie and Booker are doing amazing work in NJ.

257 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:51:47am

re: #253 darthstar

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Damn, he just got that new plane...

258 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:52:50am

re: #256 Joanne

I am far from a Christie fan, he is too nasty for my midwestern tastes, and I am quite liberal, but he is handling this very well. I don't care what political flavor you are, taking care of the people under your purview is all that matters. Christie and Booker are doing amazing work in NJ.

New Jersey has been messed up for so long that the man who can fix it is going to need to be somewhat nasty.

259 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:52:51am

re: #255 Dark_Falcon

Ah, but I don't think the Democrats are pure evil and I inveighed against those same kind of haters going after Obama just yesterday, and I've done so numerous times. But if Barack Obama does not deserve that kind of hate, neither does Chris Christie.

I haven't seen anyone complaining about Christie either here or on my Twitter timeline. All I've seen is KT trying to create a controversy that isn't here and once again whine about Daily Kos.

260 darthstar  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:53:06am

Because nothing says 'help the victims' like a heartwarming piece about Mitt Romney's humble beginnings.

261 Joanne  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:54:11am

re: #258 Dark_Falcon

New Jersey has been messed up for so long that the man who can fix it is going to need to be somewhat nasty.

Yeah, bitching at a constituent who called into a radio interview...yup, nasty is what was called for. Total bullshit.

262 Obdicut  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:54:29am

re: #260 darthstar

So in what way has he suspended his campaign?

263 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:54:34am
264 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:55:03am

re: #259 Gus

I haven't seen anyone complaining about Christie either here or on my Twitter timeline. All I've seen is KT trying to create a controversy that isn't here and once again whine about Daily Kos.

It was NJD Hockey Fan who posted the attack on Gov. Christie on the Daily Kos.

265 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:55:45am
266 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:57:31am

The Obama camp is also urging donations to the red cross
Romney, Obama Volunteers Campaign Through Sandy

“Through emails, on Facebook, Twitter and BarackObama.com, supporters are being invited to donate to the Red Cross to support the relief effort,” Obama for America Virginia Press Secretary Marianne von Nordeck said in an email Monday.

267 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:59:18am

re: #266 Killgore Trout

The Obama camp is also urging donations to the red cross
Romney, Obama Volunteers Campaign Through Sandy

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268 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:59:18am
269 alpuz  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:00:12am

re: #250 Dark_Falcon

That really is a wonderful gesture by Karl. A tweet. From the guy who coordinated a what, billion dollar ad campaign against the political party who doesn't want to slash funding to FEMA.

My heart swells..

270 wrenchwench  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:00:36am

re: #264 Dark_Falcon

It was NJD Hockey Fan who posted the attack on Gov. Christie on the Daily Kos.

NJDhockeyfan posts on the Daily Kos?

/?

271 efuseakay  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:00:38am

re: #266 Killgore Trout

The Obama camp is also urging donations to the red cross
Romney, Obama Volunteers Campaign Through Sandy

Meanwhile, while the President is being a leader during a disaster, Romney is pandering for votes under the guise of disaster relief. Will he be holding "fundraiser" events on November 7/after? No way in Hell.

272 garhighway  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:00:44am

re: #255 Dark_Falcon

Ah, but I don't think the Democrats are pure evil and I inveighed against those same kind of haters going after Obama just yesterday, and I've done so numerous times. But if Barack Obama does not deserve that kind of hate, neither does Chris Christie.

You are right: Christie doesn't deserve that. It's a shame that he has no future in the national GOP.

273 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:00:52am

Ahead of Sandy, Obama and Romney Request Red Cross Contributions

“On Facebook, Twitter, and BarackObama.com, supporters are being invited to donate to the Red Cross to support the relief effort.”

Indeed, on Mr. Obama’s campaign website, there is a button in the lower-right that connects supporters to the Red Cross, and related messages were posted to his Facebook and Twitter pages.

274 Decatur Deb  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:00:57am

re: #268 Sheila Broflovski

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The subways are sort of 47%-ish, Mayor Bloomberg aside.

276 Obdicut  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:01:32am

re: #266 Killgore Trout

The Obama camp is also urging donations to the red cross
Romney, Obama Volunteers Campaign Through Sandy

And unlike Romney, aren't screwing up by trying to collect supplies themselves.

I gotta say, from the scientists predicting this right to the authorities being very direct and clear (aside from AC's mayor) about evacuation, this has shown the strength of science and government in helping people. It's a difficult moment to try to sell Romney's anti-government, privatize-FEMA stance.

277 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:02:21am
278 Mattand  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:02:24am

re: #258 Dark_Falcon

New Jersey has been messed up for so long that the man who can fix it is going to need to be somewhat nasty.

re: #261 Joanne

Yeah, bitching at a constituent who called into a radio interview...yup, nasty is what was called for. Total bullshit.

Screaming at teachers in town hall meetings and posting it to YouTube isn't good government, it's pandering to the Neanderthals in your base.

279 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:02:28am

re: #266 Killgore Trout

Killgore, you need to earn back some goodwill here. Talk about your garden in your next post and humanize yourself somewhat. Because right now a number of people are annoyed with you for what they see as you trolling.

280 efuseakay  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:02:51am

re: #250 Dark_Falcon

What a guy. He had a staff member post a tweet!

281 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:02:51am

re: #277 Killgore Trout

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282 alpuz  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:03:20am

re: #276 Obdicut

They're gonna give it that ole well funded college trust fund try!

283 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:03:43am

If kos is fair game to tar all liberals then I'll bring up redstate.
You really wanna have this fight of the crazy? Because conservative blogs win that no freaking contest.

284 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:04:06am

re: #279 Dark_Falcon

Killgore, you need to earn back some goodwill here. Talk about your garden in your next post and humanize yourself somewhat. Because right now a number of people are annoyed with you for what they see as you trolling.

U 2 pal.

285 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:04:36am

Bloomberg presser underway. Massive damage. 23 serious fires across NYC. Breezy Point fire - 80+ houses destroyed.

286 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:04:38am

re: #270 wrenchwench

NJDhockeyfan posts on the Daily Kos?

/?

[eyeroll] (As a lady, WW cannot be SMACKed.)

287 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:04:44am

There's my troll post of the day.
:P

288 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:05:30am

re: #286 Dark_Falcon

[eyeroll] (As a lady, WW cannot be SMACKed.)

Not with the wrench she's wielding...
*Ducks*

289 garhighway  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:05:46am

re: #283 Varek Raith

If kos is fair game to tar all liberals then I'll bring up redstate.
You really wanna have this fight of the crazy? Because conservative blogs win that no freaking contest.

Fox Nation.

Game over.

290 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:06:03am

re: #289 garhighway

Fox Nation.

Game over.

Free Republic!

291 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:06:05am

re: #283 Varek Raith

If kos is fair game to tar all liberals then I'll bring up redstate.
You really wanna have this fight of the crazy? Because conservative blogs win that no freaking contest.

Go for it. I'm sick of the haters. Go ahead and expose them, I'm not defending redstate.

292 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:06:53am
293 Obdicut  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:07:03am

I'd love to see the Democrats re-raise the topic of spending on weather satellites now.

Do you like how we were able to predict that it was going to curve back and hit land? Well, that was due to computer models and data sets gathered by satellites, and unfortunately, the European models were better than ours. You want to get beaten by Europe? You comfortable taking second place to Europe in science and technology? Because that's where we're headed, if the GOP keeps hostage-taking the budget.

294 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:07:06am

re: #283 Varek Raith

If kos is fair game to tar all liberals then I'll bring up redstate.
You really wanna have this fight of the crazy? Because conservative blogs win that no freaking contest.

Pamela Geller thinks Obama is hindering relief efforts

Did anyone see the asshat in chief seizing the narrative on a little rain? Where was this same gravity and priority when our embassies in Libya, Egypt and Tunisia were being attacked? President Hussein, local officials can handle the rain. Get out of the way.

295 garhighway  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:07:08am

Is the GWB open yet? We're thinking of going to NJ to get the m-i-l.

296 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:07:26am
297 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:08:13am

re: #294 Killgore Trout

Pamela Geller thinks Obama is hindering relief efforts

Oh god Benghazi.
Also, way to downplay the storm, Pam.

298 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:08:57am

Well, that was a dumb choice of words on my part.

299 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:08:58am

re: #295 garhighway

Is the GWB open yet? We're thinking of going to NJ to get the m-i-l.

16 minutes ago...

300 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:09:14am

re: #297 Varek Raith

Oh god Benghazi.
Also, way to undermine the storm, Pam.

I was hoping she'd blame the hurricane on Muslims or sharia.

301 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:09:54am

re: #296 NJDhockeyfan

That's actually the bypass to the tunnel - not the tunnel itself. There's also a tunnel to the FDR from West Street under the Battery that is also completely submerged. They'll be able to start pumping those dry this morning.

302 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:12:23am

re: #297 Varek Raith

Oh god Benghazi.
Also, way to downplay the storm, Pam.

Post two piece of right-wing insanity please, Varek. I've got something from the other side I want to post after that's done.

303 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:13:00am

NYC schools closed tomorrow; city offices will attempt to be open tomorrow b/c of need to help residents. Reserve 911 for emergency calls - not for other issues.

304 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:13:13am

Love this story...

Meet FDNY’s one-woman Twitter response team guiding New Yorkers through storm

As Hurricane Sandy barreled down on the northeast Monday, a one-woman response team at the Fire Department of New York monitored Twitter through the night to help people in need.

Emily Rahimi, a seven-year veteran at the FDNY, kept New Yorkers updated on developments from a storm that flooded many parts of the city Monday night through the official department Twitter feed. In a flurry of more than 100 tweets, Rahimi, who was still working at her desk Tuesday morning, replied to cries for help sent out on the social media service, passed along updates from Mayor Michael Bloomberg and followed up when New Yorkers posted tweets of thanks.

"I was just tweeting to people who were not able to get through to 911," Rahimi told Yahoo News.

Rahimi posted updates to the official FDNY Twitter account urging those facing emergencies to dial 911. Because the response effort was divided between city government agencies, calling 911 allowed dispatchers to filter out assignments instead of every request going to the Fire Department.

"*Do not* tweet emergency calls," Rahimi wrote as the storm hit.

But for those unable to access a phone or who could not get through, Rahimi was there to help.

305 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:13:35am

re: #302 Dark_Falcon

Post two piece of right-wing insanity please, Varek. I've got something from the other side I want to post after that's done.

This is not a game of Snap. Post it or don't.

306 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:13:39am

re: #302 Dark_Falcon

Post two piece of right-wing insanity please, Varek. I've got something from the other side I want to post after that's done.

I was trolling with that comment of mine.
:)

307 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:15:02am

I can never get the comments section on FoxNation to show up.
Bug or blessing?

308 efuseakay  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:15:12am

re: #302 Dark_Falcon

Post two piece of right-wing insanity please, Varek. I've got something from the other side I want to post after that's done.

Give it a fucking rest and go listen to Limbaugh later. You're acting like Romney when he thought he had a gotcha against the President re: act of terror.

309 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:15:27am

re: #307 Varek Raith

I can never get the comments section on FoxNation to show up.
Bug or blessing?

Blessing.

310 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:16:59am

re: #305 The Ghost of a Flea

This is not a game of Snap. Post it or fucking don't.

OK:

All Class: Ad Vows to ‘C*ck Punch’ Mitt Romney – Viewer Discretion Advised

This ad, produced by Michael Moore in cooperation with MoveOn.Org, purports to carry a message from the Greatest Generation. That message is to Republicans and Mitt Romney: “If your voter suppression throughout this beautiful country enables Romney to oust Barack Obama, we will burn this mother f*cker down.” There’s more: “I’m going to track down Mitt Romney and give him the world’s biggest c*ck punch.” The final speaker vows to watch us all having sex, or something.

Suffice it to say, the ad is more Michael Moore than Greatest Generation.

311 Decatur Deb  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:17:30am

re: #307 Varek Raith

I can never get the comments section on FoxNation to show up.
Bug or blessing?

Drop your psywar shields.

312 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:18:16am

re: #308 efuseakay

Give it a fucking rest and go listen to Limbaugh later. You're acting like Romney when he thought he had a gotcha against the President re: act of terror.

I'm not a Limbaugh fan and I've made that clear enough. Save your insults for when they might be accurate.

313 jaunte  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:18:51am

re: #294 Killgore Trout

Did anyone see the asshat in chief seizing the narrative on a little rain?

She never misses a chance to show off the size of her soul.

314 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:20:06am

Michael Moore is a douche canoe.
BTW, what the hell is a 'douche canoe' anyway???

315 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:20:15am
316 AK-47%  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:20:56am

re: #310 Dark_Falcon

OK:

All Class: Ad Vows to ‘C*ck Punch’ Mitt Romney – Viewer Discretion Advised

We had this discussion upthread and in previous threads. Michael Moore is not venerated spokesperson for liberal or progressive thought, he is a fimmaker with a partcular political bent. Do not hold him up as anything but that.

Speaking of venerated spokespersons, what has Rush had to say about the storm?

317 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:20:57am

re: #314 Varek Raith

Michael Moore is a douche canoe.
BTW, what the hell is a 'douche canoe' anyway???

A douche the size of a canoe.

318 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:21:10am


319 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:21:27am

re: #317 Sheila Broflovski

A douche the size of a canoe.

...
I knew that...
...
Yeah....

320 jaunte  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:21:43am

re: #314 Varek Raith

Michael Moore is a douche canoe.
BTW, what the hell is a 'douche canoe' anyway???

Looks like a douche both coming and going.

321 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:21:47am

re: #314 Varek Raith

Michael Moore is a douche canoe.
BTW, what the hell is a 'douche canoe' anyway???

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322 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:22:07am

re: #316 AK-47%

We had this discussion upthread and in previous threads. Michael Moore is not venerated spokesperson for liberal or progressive thought, he is a fimmaker with a partcular political bent. Do not hold him up as anything but that.

Speaking of venerated spokespersons, what has Rush had to say about the storm?

How would I know? I don't listen to that asshole.

323 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:22:29am

re: #310 Dark_Falcon

OK:

All Class: Ad Vows to ‘C*ck Punch’ Mitt Romney – Viewer Discretion Advised

This ad, produced by Michael Moore in cooperation with MoveOn.Org, purports to carry a message from the Greatest Generation.

A douchebag and a group of idiots. A match made in heaven!

324 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:22:36am

re: #318 Gus

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20 billion is a lot for a 'little rain'.
Got 7 inches at the house.
Yep. Little rain. Oh and a peak gust of 64.

325 efuseakay  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:22:43am

re: #312 Dark_Falcon

I'm not a Limbaugh fan and I've made that clear enough. Save your insults for when they might be accurate.

Good for you. Too bad he runs the GOP.

326 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:22:45am
327 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:23:17am

NJ Transit suspended until further notice. They have to check 500 miles of rail - and there are reports of washouts and other damage to tracks and equipment statewide.

328 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:23:38am

Lost a grill cover. It's down the street I presume.

329 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:25:06am

I got a rain gauge and an anemometer.
/NERD!

330 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:25:08am

re: #327 lawhawk

NJ Transit suspended until further notice. They have to check 500 miles of rail - and there are reports of washouts and other damage to tracks and equipment statewide.

4 to 5 days according to Bloomberg. For the subway.

332 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:25:25am
333 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:25:52am

re: #326 Gus

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334 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:26:22am
335 Joanne  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:26:31am

My backyard

Hubby saw that the fence was down...but completely missed the downed tree. Talk about seeing the forest for the tree. (And yes, I teased him mercilessly! :-)

336 alpuz  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:26:32am

re: #315 Gus

Exactly. Let's check conservative golden boy, no big gubmint, Governor of Wisconsin Scott Walker's record on that.

[Link: www.northlandsnewscenter.com...]

more.

337 jaunte  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:27:48am

East Village swamped:
[Link: instagram.com...]

338 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:28:29am

re: #334 Gus

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re: #337 jaunte

East Village swamped:
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GMTA

339 AK-47%  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:29:04am

re: #336 alpuz

Exactly. Let's check conservative golden boy, no big gubmint, and Governor of Wisconsin Scott Walker's record on that.

[Link: www.northlandsnewscenter.com...]

more.

fer f*cks sake, there are some disasters that cross state lines. that is what the federal government is there for...to coordinate aid efforts. what the f*ck is so hard to understand about that necessity?

340 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:29:23am
341 efuseakay  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:30:12am

re: #312 Dark_Falcon

I'm not a Limbaugh fan and I've made that clear enough. Save your insults for when they might be accurate.

Funny. So now acting like Mitt is an insult. Classic.

342 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:30:37am

Sandy ain't finished yet.

343 Joanne  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:30:43am

re: #314 Varek Raith

Michael Moore is a douche canoe.
BTW, what the hell is a 'douche canoe' anyway???

When you're such a big douche that a bag simply won't do.

344 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:30:46am
345 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:31:04am

re: #335 Joanne

My backyard

Hubby saw that the fence was down...but completely missed the downed tree. Talk about seeing the forest for the tree. (And yes, I teased him mercilessly! :-)

Yes, but the FENCE!!!11ty.

346 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:31:37am

re: #344 Gus

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347 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:31:49am
348 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:34:02am

JFK to reopen tomorrow (tentative); LGA closed due to damage. Holland and Battery tunnels closed due to flooding. Rockaway bridges closed; other bridges to reopen later today.

National unwatering SWAT team on route to NYC to assist. - Gov. Cuomo.

Cuomo been on two calls with President.

349 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:34:07am
350 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:34:09am

The Christie administration is monitoring the Oyster Creak nuclear power plant that lost part of its power and declared an “alert” due to rising water levels Monday night.

Generators are powering the plant in New Jersey’s Lacey Township to keep the fuel cool. The nuclear facility lost a portion of its warning-alarm system Monday night, but other warning signals continued to function, Gov. Chris Christie said in statement Tuesday.

The Nuclear Regulatory Commission said that the plant remains in “safe condition” and federal and state inspectors are on site at the plant, which had been shut down before the storm.
[Link: blogs.wsj.com...]

351 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:34:57am

re: #348 lawhawk

JFK to reopen tomorrow (tentative); LGA closed due to damage. Holland and Battery tunnels closed due to flooding. Rockaway bridges closed; other bridges to reopen later today.

National unwatering SWAT team on route to NYC to assist. - Gov. Cuomo.

Cuomo been on two calls with President.

Unwatering SWAT.
Badass.

352 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:35:32am

re: #350 Varek Raith

The Christie administration is monitoring the Oyster Creak nuclear power plant that lost part of its power and declared an “alert” due to rising water levels Monday night.

Generators are powering the plant in New Jersey’s Lacey Township to keep the fuel cool. The nuclear facility lost a portion of its warning-alarm system Monday night, but other warning signals continued to function, Gov. Chris Christie said in statement Tuesday.

The Nuclear Regulatory Commission said that the plant remains in “safe condition” and federal and state inspectors are on site at the plant, which had been shut down before the storm.
[Link: blogs.wsj.com...]

353 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:35:56am

re: #349 Gus

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I can see the Loc Ness Monster!
//

354 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:36:28am
355 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:36:42am

re: #353 NJDhockeyfan

I can see the Loc Ness Monster!
//

What are ya, blind?
It's clearly big foot.

356 garhighway  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:37:02am

Interesting that Schumer is with Bloomberg, not Cuomo.

357 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:37:24am

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358 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:38:08am

Cuomo goes off on climate change denialists;

we're having 100 year floods/events every 2 years now...

359 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:38:11am

re: #357 NJDhockeyfan

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I heard a tanker ran aground in NJ or NY. Is that it?

360 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:38:40am

re: #359 Varek Raith

That's the one.

361 alpuz  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:39:33am

re: #339 AK-47%

No argument here. I imagine a future where FEMA has been slashed, the responsibility lies with the state, and along comes some form of disaster. Whether it be a hurricane, a drought, or just the maple syrup crop is suffering.

I can hear the response from my current Governor. It will echo the response he gave during the lead up to the 2010 elections, 'balancing' the state budget, and cuts to public education.

We're Broke.

362 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:41:19am

Outdoor cat couldn't wait to get back outside. She was going crazy. She went out the door and promptly came back in, jumped in a box, and went to sleep.

363 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:41:34am

re: #359 Varek Raith

I heard a tanker ran aground in NJ or NY. Is that it?

Yes. Staten Island.

364 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:42:16am

MTA - Joe Lhota. Entire MTA region affected.

Subway tubes underwater. Rail yards flooded 207th; 148th Street.

Joreleamon St tunnel will be cleared shortly.

Boat on tracks in Ossining. No service on LIRR - flooding on West Side Yards and Sunnyside.

Vehicle tunnels flooded.
No buses or subways have damage - a huge bonus. Only tracks/equipment. South Street station is completely submerged - to ceiling.

That will still take time to repair.

365 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:42:51am

re: #353 NJDhockeyfan

I can see the Loc Ness Monster!
//

Ha, that was my first thought when I saw the humps too.

366 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:43:28am

So...
When's the NYPD gonna ticket boats for being illegally parked?
/

367 R.M, Ramallo  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:44:08am

re: #100 ProGunLiberal

Worried about Ohio and voting. Cleveland is out of power, and that seems to be what carried the state in 2008.

Kasich could decide to go as scheduled, with Cleveland having depressed turnout, and swinging the state Red.

Don't worry.
The power is always out in Cleveland.
Bad weather is a given on the lake.

368 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:44:29am

re: #366 Varek Raith

So...
When's the NYPD gonna ticket boats for being illegally parked?
/

All douche canoes will be towed.

369 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:45:03am

B&H expect their employees to come in at 12:30, by cab, carpool, bike, hitchhike, or hoof it.

370 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:45:24am

Sir, your cargo ship is illegally parked atop a hotel. You have 1 hour to move it.

371 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:46:28am
372 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:48:08am

re: #371 Gus

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373 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:49:46am

LA Times photo gallery.

Hurricane Sandy hammers East Coast

374 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:50:04am

re: #310 Dark_Falcon

OK:

All Class: Ad Vows to ‘C*ck Punch’ Mitt Romney – Viewer Discretion Advised

Ah. Another round of People With No Standing In the Democratic Party Say Something, Therefore All Democrats Are Culpable; Republicans Are Not Required To Answer For Their Own Statements, Let Alone Those Of The Loony Pundits They Buddy Around With And Actively Court.

Zero Chance the hyperbole was for comic effect. Also zero chance that "burn this motherfucker down" is idiomatic rather than literal. Excuse me while I don my clutching pearls.

And no, I don't like Moore or the ad. I wish Moore would STFU and go away. But I'm not buying the frame and the conclusions drawn on such sites as FreeRepublic, PJMedia, and WorldNetDaily...all of which are presenting this as The Most Horrible Thing ever. The circulation of this as "proof that all Democrats are violent" through the usual suspects of the RWNJ underbelly is particularly ripe, given the fairly routine calls to arms and the occasional fully articulated fantasy article of suburban militias gunning down "Minority Urban Youth" rioting. (Warning: Freeper Link). To say nothing of actual elected officials talking "second amendment solutions" and/or speculating about secession.

It's like above and beyond IOIYAR there's the advanced level "any use of violent language by a Democrat means all of them are horribly bestially violent...but we're totally going to fantasize about using our guns to protect ourselves from them and the Federal Government and/or killing and imprisoning people that we don't like, but you're not allowed to draw any conclusions about our state of mind from that."

375 AK-47%  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:50:05am

re: #371 Gus

Look at all these evil government workers, bastards eh?

I read that the aircraft carrier USS Ronald Reagan was sent to Japan to provide trunami relief. Would love to have been there with the captain when he presented his credentials and declared "We're from the US government and we're here to help you!"

376 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:51:48am

re: #375 AK-47%

I read that the aircraft carrier USS Ronald Reagan was sent to Japan to provide trunami relief. Would love to have been there with the captain when he presented his credentials and declared "We're from the US government and we're here to help you!"

But. But. The military isn't government!

//

377 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:52:30am

re: #375 AK-47%

I read that the aircraft carrier USS Ronald Reagan was sent to Japan to provide trunami relief. Would love to have been there with the captain when he presented his credentials and declared "We're from the US government and we're here to help you!"

1917!

378 Interesting Times  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:52:41am
379 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:53:05am

re: #377 Varek Raith

1917!

Bayonets!

//Stabby

380 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:53:56am

re: #378 Interesting Times

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I was told this was not a campaign event.
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381 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:53:57am

Chutzpa
Family sues FBI in fatal shooting of Detroit imam

Luqman Abdullah was killed when agents tried to arrest him at a Dearborn warehouse in 2009. He and his allies were accused of dealing stolen goods in an FBI sting operation.

A lawsuit filed Friday in federal court accuses the FBI of using excessive force in Abdullah's death. He was shot 20 times. The FBI has defended what happened, saying Abdullah was armed and resisted arrest.

The Michigan attorney general said the shooting was justified. The U.S. Justice Department's civil rights division also found no wrongdoing.

382 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:54:33am

re: #381 Killgore Trout

Chutzpa
Family sues FBI in fatal shooting of Detroit imam

Ah. Time for Killgore's "Muslim News."

383 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:55:06am

Shiny new plane.

384 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:55:31am

re: #383 Varek Raith

Shiny new plane.

Target acquired.

385 Kronocide  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:56:45am

Shiny IDF Hezbollah Code Pink things

386 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:57:17am

re: #368 Gus

All douche canoes will be towed.

And parked at the nearest all-you-can-eat buffett.

387 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:59:02am

re: #385 Kronocide

Shiny IDF Hezbollah Code Pink things

Sounds ghey.

388 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 8:59:22am
389 PhillyPretzel  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:00:23am

re: #388 NJDhockeyfan

Oy Vey. The looting is starting.

390 Kronocide  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:00:34am

Hah hah, fat joke. Classy.

391 Kronocide  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:01:22am

re: #387 Varek Raith

Sounds gay.

No.. it's ghey in the proper nomenclaturableness.

392 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:01:25am
393 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:02:01am

re: #391 Kronocide

No.. it's ghey in the proper nomenclaturableness.

Edited.
:)

394 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:02:59am
395 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:03:35am

re: #394 Gus

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More like gone...

396 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:03:46am

I'll bet he fired all the employees who didn't come in to work.

397 PhillyPretzel  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:04:32am

re: #396 Sheila Broflovski

probably did.

398 Kronocide  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:04:46am

re: #396 Sheila Broflovski

Donald Trump, CEO of AMERICAFUCKYEAH!

399 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:04:59am

Yes, Donald, let's encourage people to take to the flooded roads.
Fucktard.

400 Joanne  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:05:23am

re: #376 Gus

But. But. The military isn't government!

//

Neither is Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security. Keep the government's mitts off my...!

401 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:05:25am

MTA buses will resume beginning tonight at 5pm. Full bus service tomorrow.

402 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:06:12am
403 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:06:13am

re: #396 Sheila Broflovski

I'll bet he fired all the employees who didn't come in to work.

People having a great time in the Trump Tower atrium ---unlike others, I stayed open. fb.me/28ipnxFqk

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 30, 2012

Yeah, and Nero fiddled while Rome burned. Assholes do all kinds of shit to boost their ego at the expense of others.

404 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:06:28am

re: #392 Gus

Derp

Beck: 'When the Navy Seals Called the President, He Let Them Die'

The Derpship has issued orders. By His Command!

405 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:06:50am
406 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:07:49am

Hurricane Sandy Benghazi

407 PhillyPretzel  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:08:29am

re: #401 lawhawk

SEPTA website is slow. I am checking to see if buses and trains are running

408 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:08:33am

Maybe Iraq's WMDs are there?

409 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:08:41am

re: #406 Varek Raith

Hurricane Sandy Benghazi

Brought to you buy the same folks that brought you imaginary WMDs.

410 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:08:42am
411 Obdicut  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:09:36am

re: #403 Eventual Carrion

Yeah, and Nero fiddled while Rome burned. Assholes do all kinds of shit to boost their ego at the expense of others.

Nero actually tried to put the fire out. He was out of Rome when it started, but rushed back and funded the attempt to control it personally.

412 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:10:26am

I have a seven year old who is going to DIIIIEEEE because Halloween isn't tonight.

I'm thinking about the kids whose Halloween consists of knowing that they have a home that will need a lot of work before they can get back in.

Not that I would rain on his parade and try to make him feel guilty. He's seven, and nature's going to rain on him on Wednesday, anyway.

413 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:10:29am

We want answers NOW!

Hearings for 9/11 begin until 18 months after. Even then we were all told to OBEY or else be called a traitor. Now? Not so much.

414 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:10:52am

re: #411 Obdicut

Nero actually tried to put the fire out. He was out of Rome when it started, but rushed back and funded the attempt to control it personally.

Yeah, and Marie Antoinette never really said "Let them eat cake."

But hey, why let actual history get in the way of a good old meme?

415 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:11:03am

re: #411 Obdicut

Nero actually tried to put the fire out. He was out of Rome when it started, but rushed back and funded the attempt to control it personally.

Image: buzz_jpg_250x255_q85.jpg

416 PhillyPretzel  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:11:55am

SEPTA is up and running limited service [Link: www.septa.org...]

417 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:13:06am

Pro-Akin Bus Tour to Feature Advocate of Violent Insurrection

The Family Research Council is organizing another Religious Right bus tour to bolster Todd Akin’s campaign for U.S. Senate in Missouri against Sen. Claire McCaskill. The “Repeal and Replace McCaskill Tour” will feature prominent conservative figures like Mike Huckabee, Tony Perkins and Phyllis Schlafly and lesser-known activists like Stephen Broden.

...

Broden is a failed Republican candidate for Congress who garnered national attention when he floated violent insurrection against the Obama administration.*

While Akin seeks to distance himself from his past support for militia groups and radical anti-abortion rights groups and their leaders, the inclusion of Broden on the bus tour only highlights Akin’s close relationship with the most extreme elements of the far-right.

But remember, an old lady said "Burn this motherfucker down," so we best be locked and loaded.

418 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:13:16am

re: #344 Gus

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Wind is pretty high here now. I've seen worse, but going out is going to be unpleasant.

419 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:14:43am

It looks like I'm not the only one thinking about the kids:

[Link: www.myfoxny.com...]

420 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:16:01am
421 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:18:05am

re: #398 Kronocide

Donald Trump, CEO of AMERICAFUCKYEAH!

Except that if the characters of "Team America" existed in real life, right now they'd be using their helicopter and mini-submarine to try to help people stranded by flood waters or deliver supplies. By the movie's logic, Donald Trump is what he we have been saying he is: An Asshole.

422 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:18:39am

re: #420 NJDhockeyfan

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Stay classy, Adam.

423 efuseakay  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:21:54am

Michael Moore (citizen) says something stupid... All liberals are meanies.

A Republican official that actually has an effect on policy says rape is God's will... Move along. Move along.

424 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:22:35am
425 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:23:30am

re: #424 Gus

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Of course not. I'd love to see him pressed on this. But I ain't holding my breath.

426 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:24:14am
427 Joanne  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:24:33am

re: #422 Dark_Falcon

Alex, I'd like A Sense of Humor for $200, please.

429 PhillyPretzel  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:26:01am

re: #426 Gus

::: handing bucket to Gus :::

430 efuseakay  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:27:11am

re: #424 Gus

Fewer police! Fewer firefighters! (Fewer teachers!)

431 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:29:17am

Mike Huckabee: Vote Against Equality And Choice Or You’ll Go To Hell

HUCKABEE: Many issues are at stake, but some issues are not negotiable: The right to life from conception to natural death. Marriage should be reinforced, not redefined. It is an egregious violation of our cherished principle of religious liberty for the government to force the Church to buy the kind of insurance that leads to the taking of innocent human life.

Your vote will affect the future and be recorded in eternity. Will you vote the values that will stand the test of fire? This is Mike Huckabee asking you to join me November 6th and vote based on values that will stand the test of fire.

432 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:29:26am
433 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:30:16am

re: #432 NJDhockeyfan

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Looks like a war zone.

434 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:30:17am

re: #428 NJDhockeyfan

InstaSnopes: Sorting the Real Sandy Photos From the Fakes

All the "shark in flooded street" photoshops are taken from this one shark photo.

435 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:30:19am
436 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:30:40am

re: #431 The Ghost of a Flea

Mike Huckabee: Vote Against Equality And Choice Or You’ll Go To Hell

Nice. Huckabee showing his true pathetic colors there. Fuck you asshole.

437 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:30:58am
438 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:31:36am
439 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:31:49am

re: #431 The Ghost of a Flea

Mike Huckabee: Vote Against Equality And Choice Or You’ll Go To Hell

Vote against equality and choice and YOU WILL BE in Hell.

440 efuseakay  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:32:27am

re: #425 HappyWarrior

Of course not. I'd love to see him pressed on this. But I ain't holding my breath.

Oh. He will be pressed. But he won't answer.

441 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:33:02am
442 recusancy  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:33:17am

re: #230 NJDhockeyfan

The Koskids on Christie's thanks of the POTUS...

Progressive!

Wow. 6 whole people recommended that post.

443 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:33:32am

re: #440 efuseakay

Oh. He will be pressed. But he won't answer.

Yeah I hold my breath even more on that one. Guy says all this stupid crap but doesn't expect to have to explain his remarks.

444 jaunte  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:33:39am
445 efuseakay  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:33:50am

re: #436 HappyWarrior

Nice. Huckabee showing his true pathetic colors there. Fuck you asshole.

But. But. Michael Moore!!!!!

446 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:34:26am

Flooding amounts could have been lower if we just ate less oysters!

447 efuseakay  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:34:39am

re: #443 HappyWarrior

Yeah I hold my breath even more on that one. Guy says all this stupid crap but doesn't expect to have to explain his remarks.

Answers are beneath him. He has a garage elevator and you don't.

448 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:34:48am

re: #445 efuseakay

But. But. Michael Moore!!!!!

Haha seriously, we're supposed to care about Michael Moore but here's a guy who was one of John McCain and Mitt Romney's biggest opponents for the presidency back in 2008.

449 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:35:20am

re: #434 Sheila Broflovski

All the "shark in flooded street" photoshops are taken from this one shark photo.

Clearly this photo is not a fake, and signifies that sharks are learning to photobomb. Next, sharks will be making simple internet memes.

450 gwangung  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:35:28am

Hand disaster relief to the states? Well, let's see how Romney handled that as a governor....

"This was not unusual for him. He didn’t understand infrastructure improvements. It was just the bottom line. He never visited communities. He never understood the issues. He never sat down with mayors or city managers. He never understood why those things were in the budget," Barrett said. "That money was requested by locals. It was a major league problem.”

"I don't think it was because he was heartless, he just didn't know. That's how he ran his state," Bosley said. "His understanding of why you have government, I don't think he ever had it."

[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

451 PhillyPretzel  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:35:45am

Pay wall is still down at The Wall Street Journal.

452 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:36:12am

re: #428 NJDhockeyfan

InstaSnopes: Sorting the Real Sandy Photos From the Fakes

Fake, but awesome...

I was laughing out loud at that one.

453 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:36:19am

re: #428 NJDhockeyfan

InstaSnopes: Sorting the Real Sandy Photos From the Fakes

I like the "fake but awesome" designation
Image: catstatue.jpg

454 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:36:32am

re: #445 efuseakay

But. But. Michael Moore!!!!!

Two wrongs don't make a right, and its OK to call attention to left-wing assholes sometimes. It doesn't make right-wing assholes any better, not even comparatively. So "but" nothing. Huckabee is an asshole for his dishonest invocation of Hell.

455 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:36:42am

re: #452 Mostly sane, most of the time.

Fake, but awesome...

I was laughing out loud at that one.

re: #453 Killgore Trout

I like the "fake but awesome" designation
Image: catstatue.jpg

100% real.

456 efuseakay  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:37:51am

re: #439 Sheila Broflovski

Vote against equality and choice and YOU WILL BE in Hell.

Equality and choice unless you're a woman, pregnant, gay, or a minority. Or Rapture-worthy: a pregnant, gay, minority woman!

457 Obdicut  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:38:16am

re: #446 NJDhockeyfan

Flooding amounts could have been lower if we just ate less oysters!

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Well, no, it's not about eating fewer, but doing so sustainably. In many cases, human-caused changes to the environment have actually worsened the effects of weather we experience, this is a good example of human carelessness contributing to human misery.

458 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:38:25am

re: #442 recusancy

Progressive!

Wow. 6 whole people recommended that post.

Here's one off the rec list
Romney just compared relief efforts to trash on a Football Field
They are doing a full court press to politicize this in the dumbest way possible. It's tasteless and stupid.

459 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:39:26am

re: #446 NJDhockeyfan

Flooding amounts could have been lower if we just ate less oysters!

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That's not what is being said. It's actually an environmental piece and worth reading.

460 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:39:54am
461 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:40:08am

re: #453 Killgore Trout

I like the "fake but awesome" designation
Image: catstatue.jpg

Ceiling Cat Watching Over America.

462 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:40:15am

Well, I was up all night.
Off to bed.
Later.

463 recusancy  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:40:49am

re: #310 Dark_Falcon

OK:

All Class: Ad Vows to ‘C*ck Punch’ Mitt Romney – Viewer Discretion Advised

LOL that's meant to be funny. People get that right?

464 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:42:06am

re: #463 recusancy

LOL that's meant to be funny. People get that right?

The way Michael Moore carries on, I don't find it funny. I find it tasteless and inflammatory.

465 Big Steve  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:42:08am

re: #463 recusancy

LOL that's meant to be funny. People get that right?

so that's what goes for humor these days!

466 Obdicut  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:42:36am

re: #458 Killgore Trout

Here's one off the rec list
Romney just compared relief efforts to trash on a Football Field
They are doing a full court press to politicize this in the dumbest way possible. It's tasteless and stupid.

Disaster relief is a political subject, especially when one of the candidates thinks that privatizing disaster relief is a good idea, and his party tries to hold disaster relief funds hostage to get cuts in other programs, and defunds the scientific programs that allow us to make these predictions and save lives.

It's completely right to point out the dangers of Romney and the GOP's extremism on the subject of science, climate, and government preparedness.

467 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:43:29am

re: #460 NJDhockeyfan

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And with that tweet, a hundred howls arose about the "protection of our precious bodily fluids".

468 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:44:04am

re: #464 Dark_Falcon

The way Michael Moore carries on, I don't find it funny. I find it tasteless and inflammatory.

MoveOn.ORG finds it 'inspirational'.

Michael Moore helped us produce this moving, inspirational message from the greatest generation.

Stay classy morons.

469 efuseakay  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:44:35am

re: #454 Dark_Falcon

Two wrongs don't make a right, and its OK to call attention to left-wing assholes sometimes. It doesn't make right-wing assholes any better, not even comparatively. So "but" nothing. Huckabee is an asshole for his dishonest invocation of Hell.

The thing is. The left wing assholes you constantly point out do not make policy.

470 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:44:56am

re: #465 Big Steve

so that's what goes for humor these days!

Even the Mitt - Zombie video didn't sit right with me. Normally it would have been at least kind of humorous but in today's hate filled politics of demonizing opponents it just felt sort of creepy to me.

471 gwangung  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:45:14am

re: #469 efuseakay

The thing is. The left wing assholes you constantly point out do not make policy.

Isn't that kinda important?

472 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:45:55am

Yikes!

473 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:47:10am

re: #470 Killgore Trout

Even the Mitt - Zombie video didn't sit right with me. Normally it would have been at least kind of humorous but in today's hate filled politics of demonizing opponents it just felt sort of creepy to me.

Hahahaha!

Shall I get your fainting couch?

474 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:47:18am

re: #472 NJDhockeyfan

Yikes!

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What caused the color of the water?

475 erik_t  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:47:50am
476 recusancy  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:48:03am

re: #458 Killgore Trout

Here's one off the rec list
Romney just compared relief efforts to trash on a Football Field
They are doing a full court press to politicize this in the dumbest way possible. It's tasteless and stupid.

ok... and?

477 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:48:05am

re: #474 Mostly sane, most of the time.

What caused the color of the water?

The shark victims blood.

478 gwangung  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:48:13am

re: #473 Gus

Hahahaha!

Shall I get your fainting couch?

How about some Jonathan Swift?

479 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:48:27am

re: #474 Mostly sane, most of the time.

What caused the color of the water?

Oil? Transmission fluid?

480 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:48:39am

re: #475 erik_t

Well, this is a little sad.

Looks like the vertical stabilizer was damaged.

481 Bipartite Gnomenclature  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:48:43am

re: #446 NJDhockeyfan

Flooding amounts could have been lower if we just ate less oysters!

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Are you saying the biosphere can't affect geology?

482 Obdicut  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:48:45am

In fact, Romney's statement on disaster relief and government spending in general is so stupid it's just appalling, especially from someone seeking to become President.

Every time you have an occasion to take something from the federal government and send it back to the states, that’s the right direction. And if you can go even further and send it back to the private sector, that’s even better.

This kind of extremist confederate talk is poisonous and hearing it from a guy who wants to be head of the federal government is just pathetic. The GOP is running an anti-government platform, and Romney is specifically supporting that here. This was specifically when talking about disaster relief, which is one of the stupidest, stupidest areas to think of 'privatizing'. People who have just had their houses devastated are not in a good position to be served by the private market. Even leaving aside the idiocy of saying 'every time', the fact that he was specifically talking about disaster relief shows either that Romney really holds extremist Tea Party ideology above all practical reality, or he just doesn't care to even understand the realities of disaster relief.

483 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:50:03am

re: #477 Sheila Broflovski

The shark victims blood.

Shark!

484 allegro  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:50:13am

re: #458 Killgore Trout

Here's one off the rec list
Romney just compared relief efforts to trash on a Football Field
They are doing a full court press to politicize this in the dumbest way possible. It's tasteless and stupid.

Know what's tasteless and stupid? Romney pretending to give a shit with his "nonpolitical" (hahaha!) relief concert in Ohio.

Image: no_politicizing_here.png

485 makeitstop  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:50:55am

re: #463 recusancy

LOL that's meant to be funny. People get that right?

Even if it's completely unfunny, it still kicks the crap out of RW 'comedians' like Dennis Miller.

486 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:51:22am

re: #484 allegro

Know what's tasteless and stupid? Romney pretending to give a shit with his "nonpolitical" (hahaha!) relief concert in Ohio.

Image: no_politicizing_here.png

Hey now! This is a rally for relief not a campaign rally! That's why they played Romney's RNC video. Not political at all. Wink, wink, nudge, nudge.

//

487 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:52:31am

A president can effectively get you killed. He/she can get people around the world killed...

But please don't make jokes about the candidate. That's very upsetting.

Got it.

488 gwangung  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:52:58am

re: #482 Obdicut

In fact, Romney's statement on disaster relief and government spending in general is so stupid it's just appalling, especially from someone seeking to become President.

This kind of extremist confederate talk is poisonous and hearing it from a guy who wants to be head of the federal government is just pathetic. The GOP is running an anti-government platform, and Romney is specifically supporting that here. This was specifically when talking about disaster relief, which is one of the stupidest, stupidest areas to think of 'privatizing'. People who have just had their houses devastated are not in a good position to be served by the private market. Even leaving aside the idiocy of saying 'every time', the fact that he was specifically talking about disaster relief shows either that Romney really holds extremist Tea Party ideology above all practical reality, or he just doesn't care to even understand the realities of disaster relief.

Given his past record, he doesn't care about the subject. He cares how much it costs, but he doesn't care about why it's needed or how to prepare to do it.

489 efuseakay  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:53:33am

re: #471 gwangung

Isn't that kinda important?

Not to D_F.

490 wrenchwench  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:54:04am

Not flood waters, no sharks. Just tadpoles in a pond.

Image: 311120_542928989055836_1062034612_n.jpg

491 erik_t  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:54:58am

re: #482 Obdicut

This kind of extremist confederate talk is poisonous and hearing it from a guy who wants to be head of the federal government is just pathetic. The GOP is running an anti-government platform, and Romney is specifically supporting that here.

Exactly. The entire party is fundamentally unserious, and it's really astonishing that so many people are willing to blind themselves to that.

It's also another reminder that the moderate aisle-crossing compromising persona that some ascribe to Romney is wholly false.

492 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:55:01am

Saw this yesterday.

Flip-flop Mitt will never stop.

Give it a couple of months and he'll be back to defunding FEMA. Hopefully in a couple of months we won't even know of his whereabouts.

493 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:55:20am

re: #79 Obdicut

Read John D. MacDonald's "Condominium". You will love it!

494 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:56:04am

Dems nervous, GOP upbeat as vote nears

There's no shortage of their kind in the politically bluest parts of California. Liberals so freaked out about the prospect of President Obama losing his re-election bid that they can't sleep at night. Can't talk about anything else. Can't stop parsing the latest polls.

David Plouffe, one of President Obama's top campaign strategists, has a word for supporters he feels are needlessly fretful: bed wetters.

Bed wetters?

495 efuseakay  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:56:14am

re: #482 Obdicut

In fact, Romney's statement on disaster relief and government spending in general is so stupid it's just appalling, especially from someone seeking to become President.

This kind of extremist confederate talk is poisonous and hearing it from a guy who wants to be head of the federal government is just pathetic. The GOP is running an anti-government platform, and Romney is specifically supporting that here. This was specifically when talking about disaster relief, which is one of the stupidest, stupidest areas to think of 'privatizing'. People who have just had their houses devastated are not in a good position to be served by the private market. Even leaving aside the idiocy of saying 'every time', the fact that he was specifically talking about disaster relief shows either that Romney really holds extremist Tea Party ideology above all practical reality, or he just doesn't care to even understand the realities of disaster relief.

Michael Moore!

496 kirkspencer  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:56:17am

Humor, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. Pick a top comedian today and I guarantee there are people who would repeat Big Steve's sarcastic "so that's what goes for humor these days!"

What I've found interesting, however, is that I've seen a lot of (at least putative) humorous ads from and for Obama's campaign. I can't think of many at all from Romney's side. They're all serious, or so it seems to me.

497 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:56:23am

re: #490 wrenchwench

Not flood waters, no sharks. Just tadpoles in a pond.

Image: 311120_542928989055836_1062034612_n.jpg

A photo to bring joy to Killgore's heart, for those tadpoles become the frogs needed to eat the slugs that threaten his crops.

498 allegro  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:56:51am

re: #488 gwangung

Given his past record, he doesn't care about the subject. He cares how much it costs, but he doesn't care about why it's needed or how to prepare to do it.

Follow him through to his conclusion, i.e. privatize it, and it makes perfect sense to the world's greatest vulture capitalist. There's profit to be made in them there catastrophes.

499 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:57:39am

Here's some canned corn for you 47% freeloaders
[Link: twitter.com...]

500 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 9:59:36am

re: #499 Sheila Broflovski

Here's some canned corn for you 47% freeloaders
[Link: twitter.com...]

But that's not political!

//

501 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:00:46am
502 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:00:49am

re: #498 allegro

Follow him through to his conclusion, i.e. privatize it, and it makes perfect sense to the world's greatest vulture capitalist. There's profit to be made in them there catastrophes.

$100 for this can of corn!

503 blueraven  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:01:31am

All this pearl clutching about Michael Moore is funny.

Consider that Dinesh Dzouza wrote a book and produced a film with some crazy Anti Colonial Kenyan BS about the prez (which BTW Newt Gingrich endorsed) and it has made millions if not billions of dollars.

Another book, Dreams from my REAL father and the free video that was sent to millions of voters in swing states.

Donald Trump and his birther brigade.

Give. Me. A. Fucking. Break.

504 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:02:38am

re: #499 Sheila Broflovski

Here's some canned corn for you 47% freeloaders
[Link: twitter.com...]

Holy Cow, those ladies look vicious! I can understand any outrage coming at them.

505 Obdicut  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:02:38am

re: #501 NJDhockeyfan

and that's bravery. Building starts to collapse, firemen run inside to save who they can.

506 efuseakay  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:03:12am

re: #499 Sheila Broflovski

Here's some canned corn for you 47% freeloaders
[Link: twitter.com...]

That's some non-political "fundraiser"!

507 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:03:57am

re: #506 efuseakay

That's some "fundraiser"!

No politics there.

//

508 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:04:07am

re: #499 Sheila Broflovski

Here's some canned corn for you 47% freeloaders
[Link: twitter.com...]

"I dumped out my larder. It won't even slightly inconvenience the Red Cross that I'm not sending money, but rather goods that will have to be transported, sorted, vetted for health/safety reasons, and then transported again to allocate them.

This kind of giving is totally better than FEMA.

I feel great about myself."

509 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:04:31am

Here's a can of corn and a Romney t-shirt. Good luck!

510 efuseakay  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:04:31am

re: #505 Obdicut

and that's bravery. Building starts to collapse, firemen run inside to save who they can.

We need fewer of them according to Mitt Romney.

511 makeitstop  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:04:35am

re: #505 Obdicut

and that's bravery. Building starts to collapse, firemen run inside to save who they can.

Union thugs.
/

512 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:04:38am

re: #266 Killgore Trout

Please don't feed the troll.

513 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:05:13am

re: #510 efuseakay

We need fewer of them according to Mitt Romney.

That was yesterday.

//

514 alpuz  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:05:15am

re: #504 NJDhockeyfan

Yes, it's the ladies that 'outrage.'

*whoosh*

515 Joanne  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:05:40am

re: #499 Sheila Broflovski

Here's some canned corn for you 47% freeloaders
[Link: twitter.com...]

I see Romney is still doing exactly what the Red Cross asked people not to do.

516 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:05:42am

re: #508 The Ghost of a Flea

"I dumped out my larder. It won't even slightly inconvenience the Red Cross that I'm not sending money, but rather goods that will have to be transported, sorted, vetted for health/safety reasons, and then transported again to allocate them.

This kind of giving is totally better than FEMA.

I feel great about myself."

Now if this were truly a free market, we could truck in these provisions ourselves and sell each can of beans for $100. $150, for those hippies.

517 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:06:08am

re: #514 alpuz

Yes, it's the ladies that 'outrage.'

*whoosh*

Lock them up in the clinker!

518 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:06:33am
519 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:08:01am

President Obama will get you a helicopter and then some.

Mitt Romney will give you a can of kidney beans.

520 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:08:12am

re: #518 NJDhockeyfan

[Embedded content]

I have great faith in Governor Christie that he will manage to think of it, assess it, and go to work.

521 gwangung  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:08:52am

re: #513 Gus

That was yesterday.

//

Well, let's see what he'll say tomorrow.

522 wrenchwench  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:08:55am

re: #512 William Barnett-Lewis

Please don't feed the troll.

He can have the kidney beans....

523 The Mountain That Blogs  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:09:09am

I don't think La Guardia is reopening any time soon.

524 efuseakay  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:09:15am

re: #513 Gus

That was yesterday.

//

Sarc tags. Unnecessary.

525 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:09:23am

re: #522 wrenchwench

He can have the kidney beans....

It's either that or the chick peas.

526 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:09:48am

re: #524 efuseakay

Sarc tags. Unnecessary.

Romney is nimbly bimbly with his flip-flops.

527 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:10:04am

Bummer. So sad....

528 Joanne  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:10:22am

re: #525 Gus

It's either that or the chic peas.

Don't be hating on the chickpeas!

529 wrenchwench  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:10:23am

re: #525 Gus

It's either that or the chic peas.

I like chick peas.

I've never liked kidney beans. Always a little pile of them in the dish from the 3-bean salad.

530 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:12:02am

re: #529 wrenchwench

I like chick peas.

I've never liked kidney beans. Always a little pile of them in the dish from the 3-bean salad.

I like peas or corn straight out of the can.

531 wrenchwench  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:12:15am

I like garbanzo beans even better.

532 wrenchwench  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:12:53am

re: #530 Gus

I like peas or corn straight out of the can.

And beets?

534 AK-47%  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:14:06am

re: #484 allegro

Know what's tasteless and stupid? Romney pretending to give a shit with his "nonpolitical" (hahaha!) relief concert in Ohio.

Image: no_politicizing_here.png

I do rather assume that they had these things printed well in advance of the storm and did not see the point in redoing new ones...

Defending them on this one point, find nothing else dfensible about anything else they do, though.

535 darthstar  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:14:57am

Listened to Romney's non-campaign campaign relief speech this morning. He bragged about how as Governor some Katrina refugees from New Orleans were flown to Boston (then joked about how they thought they were going to Houston), and then went on about the generosity of Massachusetts residents who brought not only food, but big items, like TVs!!! to the shelter.

When people are donating TVs, they're not doing it because they think people need to watch Fox News...that's called tax deductible waste disposal.

536 darthstar  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:15:18am

re: #531 wrenchwench

I like garbanzo beans even better.

I'm more of a chick-pea kind of guy.

537 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:16:19am
538 PhillyPretzel  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:16:32am

National Weather Service is having website problems. [Link: www.nws.noaa.gov...]

539 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:17:06am

re: #535 darthstar

Listened to Romney's non-campaign campaign relief speech this morning. He bragged about how as Governor some Katrina refugees from New Orleans were flown to Boston (then joked about how they thought they were going to Houston), and then went on about the generosity of Massachusetts residents who brought not only food, but big items, like TVs!!! to the shelter.

When people are donating TVs, they're not doing it because they think people need to watch Fox News...that's called tax deductible waste disposal.

That's one way to get rid of your old CRT TV's.

540 wrenchwench  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:18:05am

re: #537 Gus

[Embedded content]

I don't wanna get in the helicopter, either, if I don't have to...

[retweeted]

541 recusancy  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:18:31am
542 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:18:39am

re: #540 wrenchwench

I don't wanna get in the helicopter, either, if I don't have to...

[retweeted]

Scared of choppers or flying in general?

543 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:18:44am

GFY and the hair that rode in on you

544 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:20:41am
545 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:21:07am

re: #534 AK-47%

I do rather assume that they had these things printed well in advance of the storm and did not see the point in redoing new ones...

Defending them on this one point, find nothing else dfensible about anything else they do, though.

It's about as outrageous as Obama scheduling a call bank in Virginia yesterday during the storm. I'm sure it was planned way ahead of time. Some people are going to go nuts about both of these anyway. Just more selective outrage, that's all.

546 erik_t  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:21:22am

re: #543 Sheila Broflovski

GFY and the hair that rode in on you

@realDonaldTrump The election is trending towards @MittRomney. Americans know we can't afford another 4 years of the Obama economic decline.

If this is what Donald Trump thinks an economic decline looks like, no wonder he keeps bankrupting himself.

547 wrenchwench  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:22:15am

re: #542 Gus

Scared of choppers or flying in general?

Flying in general, but I do it anyway. Except I've never been in a helicopter.

548 wrenchwench  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:23:00am

re: #544 Sheila Broflovski

[Embedded content]

His back is gonna kill him tomorrow. He should be making Paul Ryan do that stuff.

549 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:23:23am

re: #544 Sheila Broflovski

[Embedded content]

That's not a photo op!

//

550 Interesting Times  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:23:29am

re: #544 Sheila Broflovski

551 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:24:38am

re: #532 wrenchwench

And beets?

NO! NO! No beets!

552 Interesting Times  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:25:01am

Apropos a few posts from the usual suspects upthread:

553 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:25:31am

Of all the news coming out about storm damage, this is the worst news of all...

554 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:26:06am

re: #544 Sheila Broflovski

So donating bottled water is being an asshole now?

555 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:26:14am

re: #552 Interesting Times

That's likely the former poster here, Reginald Perrin.
Now banned.

556 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:27:21am

re: #555 Dancing along the light of day

That's likely the former poster here, Reginald Perrin.
Now banned.

Nah. This person has 4,401 followers.

557 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:27:48am
558 Interesting Times  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:28:16am

re: #555 Dancing along the light of day

NO! Not the same person! He just uses a similar avatar. Romantic Heretic knows him personally.

559 kirkspencer  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:28:41am

re: #554 Dark_Falcon

So donating bottled water is being an asshole now?

Not an asshole. Just willfully ignorant, and possibly an opportunist.

The Red Cross has repeatedly said, both publicly and (according to their reports) directly to both campaigns, that they can't do anything with donated goods. Most of those will just end up wasted.

But signing a piece of paper doesn't look as impressive as lifting (badly - I agree he's going to have a bad back later) a couple of cases of water.

560 Bipartite Gnomenclature  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:29:09am

re: #468 NJDhockeyfan

MoveOn.ORG finds it 'inspirational'.

Stay classy morons.

That ad is fucking hilarious. Where's your sense of humour.

561 efuseakay  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:30:16am

Romney is sabotaging relief efforts to make Obama look bad!

1/2 ///

562 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:30:16am

Totally OT.

Teaching geology yet again today (check out the Naica Cave) and today is crystallization, a legitimate geological topic.

Googling on crystals, though, is a headache.

Why do people insist on believing in such nonsense? It's just a rock. The only magical thing a rock can do is turn a girlfriend into a wife.

563 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:31:10am

re: #554 Dark_Falcon

So donating bottled water is being an asshole now?

Yes.

Unfortunately, due to logistical constraints the Red Cross does not accept or solicit individual donations or collections of items. Items such as collected food, used clothing and shoes must be sorted, cleaned, repackaged and transported which impedes the valuable resources of money, time, and personnel.

The Red Cross does accept bulk quantities of product and services when these items meet our service delivery needs. These donations typically come from manufacturers, suppliers, and/or distributors that can package the items in bulk, palletize them and transport them directly to Red Cross sites. Financial contributions allow the Red Cross to purchase exactly what is needed for a disaster relief operation. Monetary donations also enable the Red Cross to purchase relief supplies close to the disaster site which avoids delays and transportation costs in getting basic necessities to disaster victims. Because the affected community has generally experienced significant economic loss, purchasing relief supplies in or close to the disaster site also helps to stimulate the weakened local economy.

564 allegro  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:31:24am

re: #534 AK-47%

I do rather assume that they had these things printed well in advance of the storm and did not see the point in redoing new ones...

Defending them on this one point, find nothing else dfensible about anything else they do, though.

Showing the campaign video? Victory rally on Oct. 30?

565 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:32:04am

re: #559 kirkspencer

Not an asshole. Just willfully ignorant, and possibly an opportunist.

The Red Cross has repeatedly said, both publicly and (according to their reports) directly to both campaigns, that they can't do anything with donated goods. Most of those will just end up wasted.

But signing a piece of paper doesn't look as impressive as lifting (badly - I agree he's going to have a bad back later) a couple of cases of water.

Is he giving it to the Red Cross? Or to the food banks? Will volunteers drive it in themselves and hand it out? Has he said what they will do with it?

566 Interesting Times  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:32:18am

What it this I don't even:

567 gwangung  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:33:09am

More conservative "helpfulness" in response to Sandy?

[Link: gofwd.tumblr.com...]

568 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:33:29am

re: #566 Interesting Times

What it this I don't even:

[Embedded content]

Posterboy for natural disaster management says what?

569 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:33:30am

I don't see why Romney would have to do anything anyway. Seems highly unusual and well, mechanical. All he should do is donate and praise the presidents actions. That is the traditional way of responding. Instead he's turned this into the Romney-Hurricane Sandy sideshow.

570 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:35:56am

re: #566 Interesting Times

What it this I don't even:

[Embedded content]

The moron says what?

571 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:36:31am

re: #565 Mostly sane, most of the time.

Is he giving it to the Red Cross? Or to the food banks? Will volunteers drive it in themselves and hand it out? Has he said what they will do with it?

I don't think the food and bottled water is going to the red cross but there are food banks and other places that can make good use of such donations. Both Obama and Mitt have encouraged monetary donations to the red cross. There's nothing outrageous going on here.

572 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:37:10am

re: #571 Killgore Trout

I don't think the food and bottled water is going to the red cross but there are food banks and other places that can make good use of such donations. Both Obama and Mitt have encouraged monetary donations to the red cross. There's nothing outrageous going on here.

Quite Concur.

573 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:37:14am

re: #569 Gus

I don't see why Romney would have to do anything anyway. Seems highly unusual and well, mechanical. All he should do is donate and praise the presidents actions. That is the traditional way of responding. Instead he's turned this into the Romney-Hurricane Sandy sideshow.

This is what he has always done in the face of disasters--it's what Mormons do. Organize and work. Sending in a check and doing nothing would be the opposite of what he normally does in this type of situation.

Look what he did when the daughter of his colleague went missing--he personally organized the search efforts.

574 efuseakay  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:37:25am

re: #554 Dark_Falcon

So donating bottled water is being an asshole now?

No. But using a disaster to stage for a photo op makes him one.

Donating physical goods will only impede relief efforts. Surely even you understand why.

575 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:38:42am

re: #571 Killgore Trout

Check this out, and remember to upding WW for posting it.

re: #490 wrenchwench

Not flood waters, no sharks. Just tadpoles in a pond.

Image: 311120_542928989055836_1062034612_n.jpg

576 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:40:21am

re: #574 efuseakay

No. But using a disaster to stage for a photo op makes him one.

Donating physical goods will only impede relief efforts. Surely even you understand why.

Well, that's fine. Still gonna hold hist feet to the fire WRT to defunding FEMA and even babbling about privatizing it. So yes, it will be rescue helicopters vs. a can of peas.

577 Joanne  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:41:07am

re: #571 Killgore Trout

I don't think the food and bottled water is going to the red cross but there are food banks and other places that can make good use of such donations. Both Obama and Mitt have encouraged monetary donations to the red cross. There's nothing outrageous going on here.

It's a photo op showing someone who gives a shit, which Romney does not. It is no different than Ryan photo opping a soup kitchen. It's pretty on the outside and hollow and shallow inside.

578 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:42:49am

re: #577 Joanne

It's a photo op showing someone who gives a shit, which Romney does not. It is no different than Ryan photo opping a soup kitchen. It's pretty on the outside and hollow and shallow inside.

How do you know Romney doesn't give a shit about all the victims of this massive storm? Have to entered his brain somehow?

579 gwangung  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:44:43am

re: #578 NJDhockeyfan

How do you know Romney doesn't give a shit about all the victims of this massive storm? Have to entered his brain somehow?

Well, judging by his past actions as governor towards disaster relief, it seems he's more focussed on purely the bottom line as opposed to what the bottom line does.

580 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:48:50am

re: #523 The Mountain That Blogs

I don't think La Guardia is reopening any time soon.

[Embedded content]

Well, LGA did start out with a marine air terminal and seaplanes. Looks like they were a few decades too early. /

BTW - portions of Long Beach island in New Jersey are now part of the ocean.

581 Obdicut  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 11:05:52am

re: #565 Mostly sane, most of the time.

Is he giving it to the Red Cross? Or to the food banks? Will volunteers drive it in themselves and hand it out? Has he said what they will do with it?

Any way he goes about it, he's really not helping as much as he thinks he is. The Red Cross is organized and prepared. A spur-of-the-moment bit of opportunism from Romney is not really helpful.

Support for the president would be a lot more helpful, but instead Romney is casting vague aspersions in his direction while continuing to campaign.


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